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horokeio
November 14th, 2009, 02:49 PM
I note with interest that Sunderland is to get its first branch of Schuh, the popular, mid-market, young-orientated shoe shop. A positive move both in terms of expanding the city centre's retail offer, and of occupying prime space that has recently been empty. It's probably overdue, but also quite a coup for the Bridges to attract such a good, solid, high-profile national name.

What other shops would you like to see in Sunderland? Which ones would you like to see open in Sunderland in an ideal world? And which ones do you think would have a realistic chance of prospering in Sunderland?

Eaomatrix
November 14th, 2009, 08:59 PM
I note with interest that Sunderland is to get its first branch of Schuh, the popular, mid-market, young-orientated shoe shop. A positive move both in terms of expanding the city centre's retail offer, and of occupying prime space that has recently been empty. It's probably overdue, but also quite a coup for the Bridges to attract such a good, solid, high-profile national name.

What other shops would you like to see in Sunderland? Which ones would you like to see open in Sunderland in an ideal world? And which ones do you think would have a realistic chance of prospering in Sunderland?

Where in the city is the new Schuh store opening then?

gonzo1985
November 15th, 2009, 01:19 AM
I note with interest that Sunderland is to get its first branch of Schuh, the popular, mid-market, young-orientated shoe shop. A positive move both in terms of expanding the city centre's retail offer, and of occupying prime space that has recently been empty. It's probably overdue, but also quite a coup for the Bridges to attract such a good, solid, high-profile national name.

What other shops would you like to see in Sunderland? Which ones would you like to see open in Sunderland in an ideal world? And which ones do you think would have a realistic chance of prospering in Sunderland?

Apple? ;)
Band & Olufson? ;)

to be honest, I'd prefer to see more high-end independent retail (like Eleven) opening up, but it's still good to see national retailers having faith in the city.

sterock85
November 15th, 2009, 01:44 AM
Where in the city is the new Schuh store opening then?

Im sure it's in the Brdiges, but unsure exactly where in the Bridges.

Would like to see more of these shops open on Fawcett Street.

horokeio
November 15th, 2009, 02:12 PM
Where in the city is the new Schuh store opening then?


Next to H&M in the Crowtree Mall.

horokeio
November 15th, 2009, 02:14 PM
Apple? ;)
Band & Olufson? ;)

to be honest, I'd prefer to see more high-end independent retail (like Eleven) opening up, but it's still good to see national retailers having faith in the city.


Hahaha, slightly optimistic for now. I was thinking more like Whittards of Chelsea and Lush.

Agree about the high-end independent retailers though. There are actually quite a large number of these types of shops in the centre of Sunderland (including clothing shops, non-clothing shops, salons, coffee shops, eateries I can think of twenty off the top of my head), but they are scattered so disparately lots of people barely notice they're there. With a more cogent and forceful retail strategy, these could be gradually grouped in the same area - be it Sunniside or Fawcett Street or the so-called Park Lane Shopping Village (Olive and Derwent Streets), which I think would be a very good thing for the city centre.

sterock85
November 29th, 2009, 09:32 PM
Lush would be a good addition.

Id also prefer to see HMV moved into bigger premises in the future, as the current location is far too small.

Smash17
November 30th, 2009, 12:33 AM
I agree, HMV is in a very good location but is far too small, I often end up leaving without anything because it's so busy and the queues are so long.

sterock85
November 30th, 2009, 03:10 AM
Yes! ive done the same before due to the cues and the the lack of spcae. I hate feeling crammed in a shop.

horokeio
December 13th, 2009, 11:36 PM
Yes! ive done the same before due to the cues and the the lack of spcae. I hate feeling crammed in a shop.


They've branched into snooker and billiards equipment? News to me ;)

Never mind HMV expanding, Sunderland could do with some proper competition to HMV in the record shops department. Even when I started buying music (about 1996), there was Woolworths, Our Price, HMV and one next to McGurks that I can't remember the name of. Then along came Music Zone shortly after that. Nowadays, besides Tesco Metro and a couple of decent independent shops up near Park Lane, HMV owns the entire market for CDs, DVDs and the like.

horokeio
December 13th, 2009, 11:46 PM
I'm pleased to announce that Schuh has opened and appears to be doing a roaring trade the handful of times I've been in. Sadly the two shops to the left - previously Jack Jones and the travel agengy - both still stand empty. The coffee shop (BBs) next to Starbucks has sadly been put out of business by, I would guess, Starbucks. Lush would be an excellent addition to that part of the Bridges, as would Holland and Barrett (underperforming in its current location), Tie Rack, Whittards, perhaps a Disney store, all of which I think would be easily supported by Sunderland.

sterock85
December 15th, 2009, 02:41 AM
Anyone able to make a list of List of retailers in Sunderland City Centre?

Clothing shops i.e USC etc, Independant shops i.e Athrodite etc....and so on..

kingdom bhoy
January 26th, 2010, 12:28 PM
I see they are reopening their shops in Sunderland.

denm
January 26th, 2010, 12:58 PM
I see they are reopening their shops in Sunderland.


I didn't know they were still in business, ---I thought they had sold up.

kingdom bhoy
January 26th, 2010, 01:47 PM
I didn't know they were still in business, ---I thought they had sold up.

There was a full page spread in the Echo last night advertising the Masons shops reopening.

denm
January 26th, 2010, 03:02 PM
There was a full page spread in the Echo last night advertising the Masons shops reopening.

Ah ok --I didn't get the Echo last night, cheers.

architect1976
January 26th, 2010, 04:54 PM
Norman Mason has his sticky little fingers in too many pies, he'll have 'found' the money from somewhere to pay his tax bill and allow the shops to re-open.

denm
January 26th, 2010, 05:26 PM
Norman Mason has his sticky little fingers in too many pies, he'll have 'found' the money from somewhere to pay his tax bill and allow the shops to re-open.


Is he still involved in the horse racing game, ?

horokeio
January 27th, 2010, 03:50 PM
I think that'd take a while, but we could attempt it collaboratively. I know the Bridges has a website featuring a run-down of premises located within.

Here: http://www.thebridges-shopping.com/stores/search.aspx

horokeio
January 27th, 2010, 03:50 PM
On another note, does anyone agree it's worth raising the profile of the question of an SAFC club shop in the city centre? Quinny and the club board would be a good place to start, and possibly Land Securities to garner some background info?

kingdom bhoy
January 27th, 2010, 04:00 PM
On another note, does anyone agree it's worth raising the profile of the question of an SAFC club shop in the city centre? Quinny and the club board would be a good place to start, and possibly Land Securities to garner some background info?

Good idea, marra it seems crazy that we make do with a little section in Debenhams.

horokeio
January 27th, 2010, 04:01 PM
Good idea, marra it seems crazy that we make do with a little section in Debenhams.

The site at Sainsbury's in Washington is bigger and better than the Debenhams section.

Once there's one at the Bridges maybe we can look further afield - Metrocentre or Northumberland Street possibly? ;)

denm
January 27th, 2010, 04:29 PM
The site at Sainsbury's in Washington is bigger and better than the Debenhams section.

Once there's one at the Bridges maybe we can look further afield - Metrocentre or Northumberland Street possibly? ;)


Yeah I think a shop in the Bridges would be welcome by most supporters, --btw, didn't we used to have a shop in the Metro Centre?

horokeio
January 27th, 2010, 04:36 PM
I don't remember one, but other posters might. It wouldn't be too much of a surprise, when the Metrocentre attracts people from all across the region, and would cater particularly for Sunderland fans in County Durham and Tyneside who might not make Sunderland city centre their first port of call for shopping.

geordiejon
January 27th, 2010, 10:41 PM
There was a SAFC store in the metro centre and it closed down. From my memory it is where Lush is now?

Sunderland Fans on Tyneside would be a fairly small proportion I would reckon really. Maybe a store in South Shields would work better.

To be honest the only people who would put Sunderland as their first choice for a shopping spree would people from Sunderland. Tynesiders would choose superior Newcastle city centre or the metro centre, and those from outside Tyne and Wear- who would more than likely be driving would go to the Metro Centre with the free car parking.

bigchrisfgb
January 27th, 2010, 10:53 PM
Yeah you guys had one in the MC, not far from the NUFC store if my memory serves me correct, but it was closed down the first time you guys were relegated a few years back. I don't see why you could sustain a small store in Ireland (Dublin) with your recent fan base there, likeswise I don't see why Newcastle can't sustain one in Scotland since we are the 3rd best supported team there.

horokeio
January 28th, 2010, 01:37 AM
One in Shields isn't a bad idea, nor is one in Durham City. As you say, there's not too many SAFC fans on Tyneside (South Shields and Jarrow excluded), but there are in County Durham, certainly in the former Easington, Sedgefield, Derwentside and City of Durham districts), so perhaps there'd also be a market for a club shop at Dalton Park rather than the Metrocentre.

horokeio
January 28th, 2010, 01:39 AM
Yeah you guys had one in the MC, not far from the NUFC store if my memory serves me correct, but it was closed down the first time you guys were relegated a few years back. I don't see why you could sustain a small store in Ireland (Dublin) with your recent fan base there, likeswise I don't see why Newcastle can't sustain one in Scotland since we are the 3rd best supported team there.

Not so sure about Dublin - I think the main thrust of the Irish support was from the Cork area owing almost entirely to the Keano factor, though this has now receded somewhat (though not entirely).

As for your latter assertion, is there any source for this claim?

bigchrisfgb
January 28th, 2010, 05:27 AM
Not so sure about Dublin - I think the main thrust of the Irish support was from the Cork area owing almost entirely to the Keano factor, though this has now receded somewhat (though not entirely).

As for your latter assertion, is there any source for this claim?

Various surves have said this, can't give a link but it is pretty much a fact, if you go to sports shops in Scotland it will have Rangers, Celtic, and Newcastle tops in the majority, same as watching local people play football, it will be with a mix of Rangers, Celtic, and Newcastle tops on the pitch. If I find any links to back it up I will post it here, but right now it's too early in the morning for me to be messing on with all of that. I do agree that Sunderland should look into the feasibility of opening a store in say Dalton park.

kingdom bhoy
January 28th, 2010, 08:21 AM
Not so sure about Dublin - I think the main thrust of the Irish support was from the Cork area owing almost entirely to the Keano factor, though this has now receded somewhat (though not entirely).

As for your latter assertion, is there any source for this claim?

This Scots connection is a new one on me. SAFC have always had support throughout Ireland but it peaked with the Keano years. You still see people from Dublin Cork Kerry etc in Doyles, Deptford for some home games.

The SAFC shop in the Metro Centre was closed as part of the cutbacks when we got relegated to the championship.

denm
January 28th, 2010, 12:01 PM
I reckon that a SAFC shop in the Bridges, and one in South Shields would be welcome for a lot of supporters, ---and possibly at Dalton Park as has been mentioned.

kingdom bhoy
January 29th, 2010, 12:35 AM
Norman Mason has his sticky little fingers in too many pies, he'll have 'found' the money from somewhere to pay his tax bill and allow the shops to re-open.

At least its providing work for people on Wearside.

kingdom bhoy
January 29th, 2010, 01:05 AM
I reckon that a SAFC shop in the Bridges, and one in South Shields would be welcome for a lot of supporters, ---and possibly at Dalton Park as has been mentioned.


I would agree with that together with having one in the centre of Durham.

architect1976
January 29th, 2010, 11:03 AM
At least its providing work for people on Wearside.

Aye, the tax man.

denm
January 29th, 2010, 11:16 AM
Aye, the tax man.


Did the Tax man get their money?---and do you know if Mr Mason still owns Race Horse's,? cheers.

denm
January 29th, 2010, 12:25 PM
I would agree with that together with having one in the centre of Durham.


I thought there was one in Durham?

kingdom bhoy
January 29th, 2010, 05:50 PM
I thought there was one in Durham?

There is no offical SAFC shop in Durham.

denm
January 29th, 2010, 05:56 PM
There is no offical SAFC shop in Durham.

I'm mistaken, ---can't think where I thought there was a SAFC shop their.:nuts:

kingdom bhoy
January 29th, 2010, 06:00 PM
I'm mistaken, ---can't think where I thought there was a SAFC shop their.:nuts:


Used to be one in the Metro Cente, South Shields near the market together with 3 in Sunderland city centre ones at different times ie Market Sq beside Jackie Whites Market and near Tescos in the Bridges.

denm
January 29th, 2010, 06:09 PM
Used to be one in the Metro Cente, South Shields near the market together with 3 in Sunderland city centre ones at different times ie Market Sq beside Jackie Whites Market and near Tescos in the Bridges.

Yeah, --I remember the ones in the City Centre, ---still think it would be worth bring one back --say in the Bridges.

kingdom bhoy
January 29th, 2010, 08:36 PM
Yeah, --I remember the ones in the City Centre, ---still think it would be worth bring one back --say in the Bridges.

Definately, the Debenhams site is too small.

denm
January 29th, 2010, 09:41 PM
Definately, the Debenhams site is too small.

Has there been any hint of the Club opening anymore Shops?

kingdom bhoy
January 30th, 2010, 08:31 AM
Has there been any hint of the Club opening anymore Shops?

Not that I have heard of.

denm
January 30th, 2010, 03:03 PM
Not that I have heard of.

Maybe the Club is waiting until we become a top half team before they open more Shops, ----- only time will tell, --but hope we don't have to wait too long. :lol:

kingdom bhoy
February 4th, 2010, 05:37 PM
Opening in the Bridges next to Starbucks.

denm
February 4th, 2010, 07:00 PM
Opening in the Bridges next to Starbucks.


Good that there's more retail opening, ---excuse my ignorance, ---but what is --Pandora?

kingdom bhoy
February 4th, 2010, 08:02 PM
Good that there's more retail opening, ---excuse my ignorance, ---but what is --Pandora?

I think it may be a jewellery store.

denm
February 4th, 2010, 08:48 PM
I think it may be a jewellery store.


Ah, --okay, --.

horokeio
February 11th, 2010, 02:15 PM
I think the Bridges is doing quite well in terms of vacancy rates, certainly compared to shopping centres I've recently visited in some other parts of the country, and definitely when compared with Wearside's other main shopping centre, the Washington Galleries. The soon-to-be-open Pandoras, in the Crowtree Mall, will only leave the adjacent former Jack Jones and Going Places units empty in that area of the centre, and one empty premises at the Jacky Whites end.

Interestingly the Bradford and Bingley (near the Greggs Cafe) has now been rebranded Santander. What with another Santander in Waterloo Place, I wonder what will become of the Alliance and Leicester (due to be rebranded by November) opposite the main entrance to the railway station? I can't envisage three Santanders in such a small area, let alone two over the road from each other.

denm
February 11th, 2010, 04:01 PM
I think the Bridges is doing quite well in terms of vacancy rates, certainly compared to shopping centres I've recently visited in some other parts of the country, and definitely when compared with Wearside's other main shopping centre, the Washington Galleries. The soon-to-be-open Pandoras, in the Crowtree Mall, will only leave the adjacent former Jack Jones and Going Places units empty in that area of the centre, and one empty premises at the Jacky Whites end.

Interestingly the Bradford and Bingley (near the Greggs Cafe) has now been rebranded Santander. What with another Santander in Waterloo Place, I wonder what will become of the Alliance and Leicester (due to be rebranded by November) opposite the main entrance to the railway station? I can't envisage three Santanders in such a small area, let alone two over the road from each other.



I never knew the Alliance and Leicester were to be renamed, ----and I agree,

---would seem unlikely to have three Santander close to each other.

bigchrisfgb
February 11th, 2010, 09:52 PM
Santander maybe forced to sell some of their branches that are close together, similar to what Lloyds TSB is now having to do, I know in North Shields Lloyds TSB had a branch on one sqaure (it's the part of North Shields that is in aa American grid format) and at the same location on the square next to it had another thanks to it's merger with TSB, anyway since Lloys has been told to close and sell some branches off, one of them has closed down. Anyway I think a similar thing will happen to Santander when Allience and Leicester merge with it, which may mean that we might see more branches from Norther Rock (Virgin Bank if the takeover goes ahead), Virgin Bank, Tesco Bank, and National bank of Australia (which currently own Yorkshire Bank and Clydesdale Bank) who will all be going after the braches that other banks have to ditch.

kingdom bhoy
February 17th, 2010, 12:55 PM
I see Reds Hair and beauty salon in Waterloo Place has close hard on the back of the news that Van Mildert in Holmeside.

Depressing stuff.

denm
February 17th, 2010, 01:21 PM
I see Reds Hair and beauty salon in Waterloo Place has close hard on the back of the news that Van Mildert in Holmeside.

Depressing stuff.


Yeah, --it's just the way it is at the moment, ---everyone's feeling it, --- just got to hang in there, --and hope for things to improve:ohno:

sterock85
March 1st, 2010, 10:37 PM
So the jewellers Pandora are opening a shop next to Starbucks.

About a new club shop, im quite surprised one hasn't been opened somewhere else in the city centre yet. Just seems quite an obvious thing to do, Or is alot more difficult than that?

kingdom bhoy
March 2nd, 2010, 07:42 AM
So the jewellers Pandora are opening a shop next to Starbucks.

About a new club shop, im quite surprised one hasn't been opened somewhere else in the city centre yet. Just seems quite an obvious thing to do, Or is alot more difficult than that?

Wish they would the Debehhams one is too small and lacks identity.

denm
March 2nd, 2010, 11:57 AM
A SAFC shop in the Bridges would be great for most supporters, ---and I think that unit which is to be Pandora, --would have been a ideal.

sterock85
March 2nd, 2010, 08:24 PM
http://www.safc.com/news/20100302/safc-to-launch-new-retail-store_2256213_1981989

Sunderland AFC's retail division is set to open a new store at Washington's flagship retail centre, The Galleries, next month.

The club has traded successfully for over a decade within the Sainsbury's store at the Galleries and will now move to larger stand alone premises within the centre.

Lesley Callaghan, SAFC's marketing and commercial director said: "Our retail concession in Washington has always been very popular with supporters, as well as being highly successful commercially, so we are very excited to be opening the new larger store.

"It represents a great opportunity for us to broaden our retail operation as well as giving our fans outside the immediate Sunderland area a wider choice when shopping with us."

Nik McDonald, SAFC's head of group retail added: "Our aim is to create a modern, exciting shopping environment for our customers. The new store will showcase our merchandise to the highest standards and allow us to build on the loyal customer base we have in the Washington area."

The Galleries Shopping Centre, which features over 200 shops, is currently undergoing a multi-million pound refurbishment to enhance the overall shopping experience for its customers.

The new Sunderland AFC store is set to open in early April and further details regarding the launch event will be announced in the near future.

The club's last day of trading in Sainsbury's will be Sunday 21st March 2010.

kingdom bhoy
March 3rd, 2010, 12:13 AM
http://www.safc.com/news/20100302/safc-to-launch-new-retail-store_2256213_1981989

Sunderland AFC's retail division is set to open a new store at Washington's flagship retail centre, The Galleries, next month.

The club has traded successfully for over a decade within the Sainsbury's store at the Galleries and will now move to larger stand alone premises within the centre.

Lesley Callaghan, SAFC's marketing and commercial director said: "Our retail concession in Washington has always been very popular with supporters, as well as being highly successful commercially, so we are very excited to be opening the new larger store.

"It represents a great opportunity for us to broaden our retail operation as well as giving our fans outside the immediate Sunderland area a wider choice when shopping with us."

Nik McDonald, SAFC's head of group retail added: "Our aim is to create a modern, exciting shopping environment for our customers. The new store will showcase our merchandise to the highest standards and allow us to build on the loyal customer base we have in the Washington area."

The Galleries Shopping Centre, which features over 200 shops, is currently undergoing a multi-million pound refurbishment to enhance the overall shopping experience for its customers.

The new Sunderland AFC store is set to open in early April and further details regarding the launch event will be announced in the near future.

The club's last day of trading in Sainsbury's will be Sunday 21st March 2010.

Thats good news, now for the Bridges - three vacant units @ the CLC end.

Go for it SAFC.

sterock85
March 3rd, 2010, 12:24 AM
Yeah good news. Seems odd though when we don't even have a club store in the city centre, other than the one in Debenhams.

kingdom bhoy
March 3rd, 2010, 08:31 AM
Never understood why we didn't open an offical SAFC outlet in Durham.

denm
March 3rd, 2010, 11:33 AM
I would have thought that a SAFC shop in the Bridges, --and one in Durham, --would be ideal for supporters, --but I guess the Club must have done their research, --and decided against it.

kingdom bhoy
March 3rd, 2010, 12:22 PM
I would have thought that a SAFC shop in the Bridges, --and one in Durham, --would be ideal for supporters, --but I guess the Club must have done their research, --and decided against it.

Maybe it could still happen.

denm
March 3rd, 2010, 12:34 PM
Maybe it could still happen.



Do you know if the Club had a shop in Durham?----I have a vague memory of someone saying as much.

kingdom bhoy
March 3rd, 2010, 12:36 PM
Do you know if the Club had a shop in Durham?----I have a vague memory of someone saying as much.

Not to my knowledge.

denm
March 3rd, 2010, 12:44 PM
Not to my knowledge.


Okay marra, ---I must be mistaken, cheers.

kingdom bhoy
March 3rd, 2010, 12:45 PM
Okay marra, ---I must be mistaken, cheers.

There used to be a SAFC shop in S.Shields market.

denm
March 3rd, 2010, 12:49 PM
There used to be a SAFC shop in S.Shields market.


Yeah, ---but I don't think they have a one in Shields now.

kingdom bhoy
March 3rd, 2010, 01:06 PM
Yeah, ---but I don't think they have a one in Shields now.

Thats right, mores the pity.

denm
March 3rd, 2010, 03:25 PM
Thats right, mores the pity.

A shop in S Shields could be good business for the Club, ---theres good support from the South Tyneside area.

kingdom bhoy
March 3rd, 2010, 03:35 PM
A shop in S Shields could be good business for the Club, ---theres good support from the South Tyneside area.

Exactly right, we have branches in Hebburn Boldon Jarrow South Shields etc.

denm
March 3rd, 2010, 04:08 PM
Exactly right, we have branches in Hebburn Boldon Jarrow South Shields etc.


Right, ---so the next shops should be, ---Durham, S Shields and the Bridges.:)

sterock85
March 3rd, 2010, 08:02 PM
I would live to see a superstore size club shop in the city centre. Would be nice if it didn't have to be in The Bridges either.

There used to be a football shop in King Street, South Shields. It was mainly Sunderland and Newcastle stuff, with some other clubs too.

horokeio
March 3rd, 2010, 10:20 PM
I hear the club is opening a stand-alone store at the Galleries, meaning the section in Sainsburys is to close. If this is the strategy for Washington, why not a store in the Bridges? I think the Pandoras site would've been too small, but opposite there stand two empty units (units 66 and 67 on the centre map (http://www.thebridges-shopping.com/stores/centremap/index.aspx)), which could be knocked into one to make a perfectly-sized club store.

kingdom bhoy
March 3rd, 2010, 10:25 PM
I hear the club is opening a stand-alone store at the Galleries, meaning the section in Sainsburys is to close. If this is the strategy for Washington, why not a store in the Bridges? I think the Pandoras site would've been too small, but opposite there stand two empty units (units 66 and 67 on the centre map (http://www.thebridges-shopping.com/stores/centremap/index.aspx)), which could be knocked into one to make a perfectly-sized club store.

Great point.

denm
March 4th, 2010, 10:25 AM
I hear the club is opening a stand-alone store at the Galleries, meaning the section in Sainsburys is to close. If this is the strategy for Washington, why not a store in the Bridges? I think the Pandoras site would've been too small, but opposite there stand two empty units (units 66 and 67 on the centre map (http://www.thebridges-shopping.com/stores/centremap/index.aspx)), which could be knocked into one to make a perfectly-sized club store.


Yep, --I will go along with that, ---and I would have thought Durham and Shields would warrant a shop.

horokeio
March 16th, 2010, 05:49 PM
Pandora's (http://www3.pandora-jewelry.com/uk/Store-locator.aspx?zip=-1&coid=8&ciid=Sunderland&asids=) opened on Friday in the Crowtree Mall, and was doing a brisk trade when I passed at the weekend. Quite a good location I think - at the very top of the main mall, and next to Starbucks, Topshop, Debenhams, H&M etc.

denm
March 17th, 2010, 03:57 PM
Pandora's (http://www3.pandora-jewelry.com/uk/Store-locator.aspx?zip=-1&coid=8&ciid=Sunderland&asids=) opened on Friday in the Crowtree Mall, and was doing a brisk trade when I passed at the weekend. Quite a good location I think - at the very top of the main mall, and next to Starbucks, Topshop, Debenhams, H&M etc.


Aye, --I know where you mean, ----pleased it's doing okay, --although it's early days.

Smash17
March 17th, 2010, 08:18 PM
Pandora's (http://www3.pandora-jewelry.com/uk/Store-locator.aspx?zip=-1&coid=8&ciid=Sunderland&asids=) opened on Friday in the Crowtree Mall, and was doing a brisk trade when I passed at the weekend. Quite a good location I think - at the very top of the main mall, and next to Starbucks, Topshop, Debenhams, H&M etc.

A very good addition to the Bridges. A popular brand and, as you say, it should do well with the other stores in that area.

denm
March 18th, 2010, 04:34 PM
Does anyone know if there is any more progress with the old Pilgrim pub on Fawcett Street, --the last I heard, -- was that internal work was being carried, ---anyone know, ? thanks.

horokeio
March 20th, 2010, 10:42 PM
So far as I know, the Pilgrim's front was just being used for an art installation, and that no longer-term development was afoot. I'm happy to be corrected on this matter however. It would be good to see the building brought back into use.

horokeio
March 20th, 2010, 10:45 PM
Pandora's certainly looks modern and swish, and it is their only store in this neck of the woods at the moment (although their jewellery is available in other stores, for example at Me Me Me in Eldon Square and Jesmond). Let us hope the store survives the downturn in sales that will inevitably come when their items are not quite as must-have as they are presently.

horokeio
March 20th, 2010, 11:19 PM
In other news, I hear SAFC's last day of trading at its current location in Sainsburys will be tomorrow, with a new stand-alone store due to open in the Galleries early next month.

Le Chuck
March 22nd, 2010, 06:50 PM
AB10 closing due to relocation - any ideas as to where they're going?

denm
March 23rd, 2010, 05:01 PM
AB10 closing due to relocation - any ideas as to where they're going?


I haven't heard or read anything about this one mate.

gld
March 24th, 2010, 11:52 AM
Theres another shop that is closing at the top of Blandford street, I think its called E Austins.

denm
March 25th, 2010, 12:26 PM
^^^^

Yeah, --I noticed that the other day, ----but I think that shop hasn't been trading very well for some time now, --still, ---I hope the building doesn't stand empty very long.

denm
March 27th, 2010, 12:07 PM
^^^^


Confirmation of the closure, ---this from the Echo, --



Ethel Austin branches finally to close

Published Date: 26 March 2010
Time has run out for staff at two Wearside clothing stores.
The Ethel Austin branches in Sunderland and Washington are to close after administrators MCR were unable to find a buyer.

The Liverpool-based firm and its sister company Au Naturale went into administration last month and 114 stores across the country, including the branch in Seaham, closed soon afterwards.

The Sunderland and Washington shops were among 162 granted a stay of execution while buyers were sought.

But MCR has confirmed that a further 81 stores will cease trading in the next few weeks with the loss of 696 jobs.

MCR is still seeking a buyer for the company's remaining shops, including the Chester-le-Street branch.

Newcastle Historian
June 16th, 2010, 10:32 AM
Sunderland store Joplings is set to close
Jun 16 2010 by Linda Richards, The Journal


THE end of an era is set to come for one of the North East's oldest stores this weekend. Staff at Joplings in Sunderland have been told that the 206-year-old store is closing on Saturday and signs outside the store in John Street say Saturday is the last day of trading.

Owners Liverpool-based Vergo Retail Ltd yesterday confirmed that Saturday is the last day the historic store will be open.

But administrators appointed to look for a new buyer after Vergo went into receivership last month say they are still looking for an 11th hour rescue.

A spokesman for MCR, given the task of hunting for a buyer for Vergo’s 19 stores nationwide including Joplings, said: “No date has been earmarked and there is always a chance of a rescue. But the closure is expected this month unless there is a rescue.”

With time running out, the announcement has left the 100 workforce confused. One member of staff said: “We were definitely told that Saturday is the last day and we’ve got signs up outside telling people that we are closing. Everyone is very sad.”

Another staff member added: “We are closing to the public on Saturday. But there will be some staff in the store until the following Friday, clearing out.”

The store’s demise is another blow to the city which has seen the closure of a number of stores due to the economic downturn and brings to an end the store’s long-established link with Sunderland. The Napoleonic War was under way and England was protecting itself against a French invasion when Joplings opened for business in 1804.


FULL ARTICLE HERE - http://www.journallive.co.uk/north-east-news/todays-news/2010/06/16/sunderland-store-joplings-is-set-to-close-61634-26659885/

horokeio
June 17th, 2010, 01:55 AM
This is pretty grim news for the people losing their jobs and the retail offering in Sunderland. However, it has been coming for years - if not decades - ever since the construction of the open-air malls where the Bridges now stands. Joplings remains an outpost of retail in what is now a non-retail area. Anybody who had been in recently will probably regard the Echo reporter's description of the store as the "Harrods of the North" as extremely dark humour.

kingdom bhoy
June 17th, 2010, 06:45 AM
This is pretty grim news for the people losing their jobs and the retail offering in Sunderland. However, it has been coming for years - if not decades - ever since the construction of the open-air malls where the Bridges now stands. Joplings remains an outpost of retail in what is now a non-retail area. Anybody who had been in recently will probably regard the Echo reporter's description of the store as the "Harrods of the North" as extremely dark humour.


Yea your spot on there going into Joplings recently has been depressing when I recall what a quality shop it once was.

I wonder what will become of the site now.

denm
June 18th, 2010, 11:31 AM
^^^^

We just have to hope there will be a buyer, ---but if not, it will be sad to see Joplings go after all this time.

sterock85
June 21st, 2010, 02:33 AM
So that's it for Joplings? :(

denm
June 21st, 2010, 04:15 PM
So that's it for Joplings? :(


Aye it's sad really, ---got to hope a buyer is interested.:ohno:

denm
June 24th, 2010, 11:34 AM
Hopefully it won't be long before it is bought, ---this from the Echo, ---


Sunderland cinema site up for sale


Published Date:
24 June 2010
By James Johnston
Sunderland's multimillion-pound cinema and restaurant complex has been put up for sale.
Sunniside Leisure Complex, in High Street West, is on the market for just over £10million.

Tenants include Empire Cinemas, Gala Casinos, and restaurants Frankie and Benny's, and Nando's.

It also has a 650-place multi-storey car park.

Andrew Wilkinson, from commercial property agency Sanderson Weatherall, which is handling the sale for owner Orchard Street Investment Management, said there had already been interest from potential buyers.
He said: "This area has been the focus for redevelopment and regeneration in recent years and part of the 15-year masterplan for Sunniside East.

"The land to the east of the property is destined for future mixed-use development incorporating retail office and commercial business space."

The 91,000sq ft multi-let development, formerly known as the Limelight, was built in 2004 by Helios Properties and Bowery Developments
London-based Orchard Street Investment Management said it was selling the site as part of a review of its portfolio.

Asset manager Andrew Jenkins said: "In balancing the needs of our portfolio, we review investment disposals just as we review acquisitions and this one has fallen into the disposal category."

Mr Wilkinson said the leisure development offered "solid returns" and had already attracted the attention of investors.

He said: "The complex, complete with a £10.1million price tag, is already attracting strong interest from a number of institutional funds.
"The North East continues to attract the attention of cash-rich funds with its varied commercial property portfolio.

"Tough market conditions still prevail, but investment possibilities are coming from the sale of well performing assets.

"Sunniside Leisure offers solid returns to a would-be buyer with scope to add value and increase rental income moving forward."

The Sunniside area of the city has enjoyed mixed fortunes in recent years.

A regeneration project was launched to make it a vibrant new quarter of shops, cafes and restaurants, niche businesses and luxurious homes – unlike anything other in the city.

Planners and investors said they were confident that once restored, the grid of 18th and 19th century properties would create an area with so much charm and character that surrounding properties would prove irresistible to investors.

In 2003, work started on the transformation of the historic neighbourhood and millions of pounds of public money was pumped into the project.

But despite attracting numerous businesses, the area has also suffered setbacks.

In 2008, My Legends, Sunniside Leisure Complex, went into receivership less than a year after it opened.

The site had been left empty since the closure of Big Luke's buffet almost two years earlier.

Yet despite the problems, the area has continued to flourish and is popular with families, young people and revellers.

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YorkshireMackem
June 24th, 2010, 01:33 PM
Hopefully it won't be long before it is bought, ---this from the Echo, ---


Sunderland cinema site up for sale


Published Date:
24 June 2010
By James Johnston
Sunderland's multimillion-pound cinema and restaurant complex has been put up for sale.
Sunniside Leisure Complex, in High Street West, is on the market for just over £10million.

Tenants include Empire Cinemas, Gala Casinos, and restaurants Frankie and Benny's, and Nando's.

It also has a 650-place multi-storey car park.

Andrew Wilkinson, from commercial property agency Sanderson Weatherall, which is handling the sale for owner Orchard Street Investment Management, said there had already been interest from potential buyers.
He said: "This area has been the focus for redevelopment and regeneration in recent years and part of the 15-year masterplan for Sunniside East.

"The land to the east of the property is destined for future mixed-use development incorporating retail office and commercial business space."

The 91,000sq ft multi-let development, formerly known as the Limelight, was built in 2004 by Helios Properties and Bowery Developments
London-based Orchard Street Investment Management said it was selling the site as part of a review of its portfolio.

Asset manager Andrew Jenkins said: "In balancing the needs of our portfolio, we review investment disposals just as we review acquisitions and this one has fallen into the disposal category."

Mr Wilkinson said the leisure development offered "solid returns" and had already attracted the attention of investors.

He said: "The complex, complete with a £10.1million price tag, is already attracting strong interest from a number of institutional funds.
"The North East continues to attract the attention of cash-rich funds with its varied commercial property portfolio.

"Tough market conditions still prevail, but investment possibilities are coming from the sale of well performing assets.

"Sunniside Leisure offers solid returns to a would-be buyer with scope to add value and increase rental income moving forward."

The Sunniside area of the city has enjoyed mixed fortunes in recent years.

A regeneration project was launched to make it a vibrant new quarter of shops, cafes and restaurants, niche businesses and luxurious homes – unlike anything other in the city.

Planners and investors said they were confident that once restored, the grid of 18th and 19th century properties would create an area with so much charm and character that surrounding properties would prove irresistible to investors.

In 2003, work started on the transformation of the historic neighbourhood and millions of pounds of public money was pumped into the project.

But despite attracting numerous businesses, the area has also suffered setbacks.

In 2008, My Legends, Sunniside Leisure Complex, went into receivership less than a year after it opened.

The site had been left empty since the closure of Big Luke's buffet almost two years earlier.

Yet despite the problems, the area has continued to flourish and is popular with families, young people and revellers.

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This is actually good news, despite the spin that the article puts on it.

The article quotes state that it is a well-performing asset, and I think this is a case of its owner wanting to wheel and deal a bit and they obviously think it is a good time to sell. Hopefully a new owner can be a bit more proactive is getting the empty units filled.

kingdom bhoy
June 24th, 2010, 01:47 PM
Heard a rumour today that SAFC are looking at getting their own shop in the Bridges.

Lets hope its true. There are currently 5 vacant shops in the Bridges.

kingdom bhoy
June 24th, 2010, 01:47 PM
This is actually good news, despite the spin that the article puts on it.

The article quotes state that it is a well-performing asset, and I think this is a case of its owner wanting to wheel and deal a bit and they obviously think it is a good time to sell. Hopefully a new owner can be a bit more proactive is getting the empty units filled.

Hopefully could mean the vacant sites will get bought up.

denm
June 24th, 2010, 02:44 PM
^^^^


I haven't been round the Sunniside area for a some time, ---and just wondering if the area gets very busy, --anyone know? cheers.

Le Chuck
June 25th, 2010, 06:37 PM
Heard a rumour today that SAFC are looking at getting their own shop in the Bridges.

Lets hope its true. There are currently 5 vacant shops in the Bridges.

counted 8 today

horokeio
June 25th, 2010, 09:17 PM
How long have we on this forum been pushing the idea of reopening a club shop in the city centre? Perhaps SAFC or Land Securities bigwigs have been reading this site on their lunch hour :)?

Regarding the Bridges, I know a few have opened recently at the Crowtree end - Pandora, Blue Inc and the Disney Store (which was also mooted here as a possible attract for the Bridges) - and there is a new bookshop opening on a short-term lease in Unit 76, and I think Wallis is currently being renovated. I didn't think there were as many empty as eight.

sterock85
June 25th, 2010, 11:21 PM
Would be good to have a club store in the City Centre again, obviously not including the Debenhams one. How big are all the empty units in The Bridges?

Le Chuck
June 26th, 2010, 12:23 AM
How long have we on this forum been pushing the idea of reopening a club shop in the city centre? Perhaps SAFC or Land Securities bigwigs have been reading this site on their lunch hour :)?

Regarding the Bridges, I know a few have opened recently at the Crowtree end - Pandora, Blue Inc and the Disney Store (which was also mooted here as a possible attract for the Bridges) - and there is a new bookshop opening on a short-term lease in Unit 76, and I think Wallis is currently being renovated. I didn't think there were as many empty as eight.

Wallis was one of the empty ones, thought it had closed, as its been shut for a while.
Off the top of me head the others, were;

Inter nationaciale (sp) - next door to Wallis, relocating to where Envy was
Barrats shoes
C&G - next to tesco
Travel agents next to Blue Inc
Adams - next to the old SAFC shop, now a phone shop (T mobile?)
The one near Jackie whites with computerized things in the windows

Can't remember the last one.

denm
June 26th, 2010, 03:38 PM
counted 8 today


I didn't realise there are 8 empty shops, ---thought maybe 4 tops.

bigchrisfgb
June 28th, 2010, 07:18 PM
I don't know if this has been said or if it's common knowledge, but Modelzone is opening up in the bridges.

denm
June 29th, 2010, 10:32 AM
I don't know if this has been said or if it's common knowledge, but Modelzone is opening up in the bridges.


Never heard this chris, ---but good news, ---and hopefully there will be more to come, --cheers.

Newcastle Historian
June 30th, 2010, 10:09 AM
.
No details here, but I wonder what/where this is? I'm sure it isn't about Tesco, and they way they are talking, makes it sound like it could be a fairly substantial sized project . .

Sunderland supermarket site to be unveiled
June 30th 2010, by Peter McCusker, The Journal

DEVELOPER Terrace Hill said it will soon reveal the location of a proposed supermarket development in Sunderland as it unveiled its half-year results which show it returning to the black.

In the six months to April 30, the London company recorded a modest pre-tax profit of £700,000 to overturn a £26.2m loss in the year to October 31, 2009.

The company, which recently completed Hudson Quay 2 – the second of five buildings that make up Middlesbrough’s Manhattan Gate project – said it was pleased with progress made during the period.

FULL ARTICLE HERE - http://www.nebusiness.co.uk/commercial-property-north-east/news/2010/06/30/sunderland-supermarket-site-to-be-unveiled-51140-26752390/

denm
July 1st, 2010, 09:14 AM
.
No details here, but I wonder what/where this is? I'm sure it isn't about Tesco, and they way they are talking, makes it sound like it could be a fairly substantial sized project . .

Sunderland supermarket site to be unveiled
June 30th 2010, by Peter McCusker, The Journal

DEVELOPER Terrace Hill said it will soon reveal the location of a proposed supermarket development in Sunderland as it unveiled its half-year results which show it returning to the black.

In the six months to April 30, the London company recorded a modest pre-tax profit of £700,000 to overturn a £26.2m loss in the year to October 31, 2009.

The company, which recently completed Hudson Quay 2 – the second of five buildings that make up Middlesbrough’s Manhattan Gate project – said it was pleased with progress made during the period.

FULL ARTICLE HERE - http://www.nebusiness.co.uk/commercial-property-north-east/news/2010/06/30/sunderland-supermarket-site-to-be-unveiled-51140-26752390/



I think the location of the Supermarket could be at the Rainton Bridge / Meadows -- in the Houghton area of the City, ----there have been proposals for Leisure facilities, a Hotel, and a Supermarket put forward earlier this year, ----so this could be the location.

horokeio
July 1st, 2010, 02:33 PM
What are the nearest large supermarkets to the Houghton area presently? Doxford Park, the Galleries or Durham? Either way, it's quite a large area to be without a major store.

denm
July 1st, 2010, 02:59 PM
What are the nearest large supermarkets to the Houghton area presently? Doxford Park, the Galleries or Durham? Either way, it's quite a large area to be without a major store.


Think if you have a car, ---then the areas you mentioned would take about the same time to reach, ---but by bus, ---say from Houghton, --maybe the Galleries would be quicker and easier,---your right about the size of the Houghton area --and not having a Supermarket close by, --incidentally, --I noticed a new bus service has been introduced between Houghton and Rainton Bridge, --maybe the Bus company know something:)

raff007
July 8th, 2010, 10:50 PM
I think the location of the Supermarket could be at the Rainton Bridge / Meadows -- in the Houghton area of the City, ----there have been proposals for Leisure facilities, a Hotel, and a Supermarket put forward earlier this year, ----so this could be the location.

No this is something different, proposed by michel roseberry. dont think there is any end user lined up yet.

The terrace hill site is supposed to be at castletown and is rumoured to be sainsburys...or so ive heard

denm
July 9th, 2010, 09:03 AM
No this is something different, proposed by michel roseberry. dont think there is any end user lined up yet.

The terrace hill site is supposed to be at castletown and is rumoured to be sainsburys...or so ive heard


I've not heard or read anything regarding proposals for Castletown, ----have you heard where the site will be ? cheers.

horokeio
July 15th, 2010, 03:02 PM
I don't know if this has been said or if it's common knowledge, but Modelzone is opening up in the bridges.

Any idea which unit?

I see that the former Adams store is now occupied with a discount bookstore, which is hardly prestigious but better than nothing.

The empty unit next to Topshop is now occupied with Internaçionale, which has moved from next to Clinton cards.

I also see that a Trollbeads (http://www.trollbeads.com/) jewellers is opening in the former Milligans unit opposite Debenhams. Looks like a similar type of store to Pandora, which opened earlier this year at the other end of the Crowtree Mall.

horokeio
July 15th, 2010, 03:05 PM
No this is something different, proposed by michel roseberry. dont think there is any end user lined up yet.

The terrace hill site is supposed to be at castletown and is rumoured to be sainsburys...or so ive heard

I'm very surprised to hear speculation that Castletown is due a large supermarket development, especially if Sainsbury are interested. I'd have thought North West Sunderland were quite well served by Asda Boldon and Asda Washington. Sainsbury are also more middle class in their target market (traditionally at least), and North West Sunderland is certainly not middle class.

denm
July 15th, 2010, 03:22 PM
I'm very surprised to hear speculation that Castletown is due a large supermarket development, especially if Sainsbury are interested. I'd have thought North West Sunderland were quite well served by Asda Boldon and Asda Washington. Sainsbury are also more middle class in their target market (traditionally at least), and North West Sunderland is certainly not middle class.


Aye, --I was a bit surprised that it is to be Castletown, ---just because of the close proximity of Asda boldon and the Galleries, ----anyway, ---Terrace Hill said over a fortnight ago,--that they will reveal the location soon, ---so can't be long to wait now.

Le Chuck
July 21st, 2010, 11:17 PM
Some new shops in the bridges

Bank fashion, opens october where wallis was & next door a new JD sports
Also next to tesco where C&G was there's a new womens clothing shop called azzuri

denm
July 22nd, 2010, 11:54 AM
Some new shops in the bridges

Bank fashion, opens october where wallis was & next door a new JD sports
Also next to tesco where C&G was there's a new womens clothing shop called azzuri


That's good news, there can't be many empty units left in the Bridges now, --anyone know?

Le Chuck
July 22nd, 2010, 09:10 PM
That's good news, there can't be many empty units left in the Bridges now, --anyone know?

3 or 4

denm
July 23rd, 2010, 12:36 PM
3 or 4


Cheers marra, ----lets hope these units can be filled soon.

bigchrisfgb
July 24th, 2010, 12:18 AM
Any idea which unit?Sorry but I have no idea, I only know because a friend of mine had an interview for them. I'll try to get some more information but I can only tell you whats he will be willing to say.

denm
July 24th, 2010, 10:57 AM
3 or 4


I would love to see a SAFC shop in the Bridges, ---maybe they could take one of those units.

denm
August 12th, 2010, 02:13 PM
Will be a shame if this Market does close, ----this from the Echo, ---


Time nearly up for market

Southwick Market



Published Date:
12 August 2010
By Marissa Carruthers & Crystal Booth
A once-vibrant Sunderland market is facing the axe.
Southwick Market has just two weeks to transform its fortunes or risk closure for good.

Leaseholder John Morris told the Echo he has watched the market's fortunes slowly deteriorate since he took over five years ago.

Now he has been given a 14-day deadline to sort out finances before the shutters are brought down.

John, 34, has vowed to keep fighting for his livelihood and the place where he has worked since he was 17.

He said: "I will fight and fight to keep it going but to me it looks like it's going to be closure. When I've worked for myself for five years and worked here since I was 17, this is all I really know.

"I'm a 34-year-old man and I'm back at my mam's house. For all the work I've put in, I should have a nice house, decent car and I should be able to support my family."

John, who also owns the fruiterers, deli and sports shop at the 20-year-old market, has been struggling to make ends meet and stump up the monthly £700 rates, plus the rent and cash for bills.

Now, he faces court action after falling behind with his payments to Sunderland City Council. I've fallen behind on my rates before and managed to catch up, but I don't know what I can do now."

John said there are a number of reasons behind the decline in the market, including changes to housing, people shopping at big supermarkets and the general deterioration of the area.

"I love this market. It used to be really busy and it would be a really sad day if it was to close. It doesn't help that the public don't really support it."

Neil Wright, who owns the market, said: "John has put his heart and soul into the market and has worked really hard to try and keep it going.

"Ultimately, if this does not work out and I can't find anybody else, I will have to knock it down, as it can't be left standing empty for vandals."

Shopper Lee Holmes, 32, of Southwick, said: "They should keep it open really. I go in for veg and that. It saves me going into town for bits and bobs."

Ellen Johnston, 77, of Red House, said: "I don't use it. I get my fruit and veg brought for me so I don't have to carry it so I don't really need the market now."

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Newcastle Historian
September 1st, 2010, 11:18 AM
Three more retailers join rush to Bridges
September 1st 2010, by Peter McCusker, The Journal

http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/nebusiness/sep2010/7/8/bridges-shopping-centre-388120111.jpg

THE Bridges shopping centre in Sunderland has announced three new deals with retailers as interest in Land Securities’ mall appears to be staying strong.

Clothing retailer Bank, which stocks designer brands such as Paul’s Boutique, Lipsy, Superdry and Henleys, will open a 3,350sq ft unit on Market Square Mall on a 10-year lease.

JD Sports Fashion, with more than 400 stores across the UK, has agreed a 10-year lease and an upsize to a new 6,700sq ft unit alongside Bank. Both retailers look set to launch in autumn this year.

Clothing chain Internacionale will also be opening the doors of a new outlet in the centre this month on Crowtree Mail after signing a five-year deal on a 3,300sq ft unit.

The new deals follow quickly on from last month’s new arrivals, Disney and Blue Inc.

In total more than 26,000sq ft of retail space has been let this year bringing more than 100 new jobs to the region.

Jonathan Buckle, Bridges portfolio manager, said: “The new deals are coming thick and fast this year which is phenomenal news for shoppers in Sunderland.

“This trio of new deals follows hot on the heels also of Starbucks, Schuh and Pandora – all leading retailers which have proven to be great assets to our portfolio, as well as heightening our customer experience and providing a boost to the local economy.”


ARTICLE HERE - http://www.nebusiness.co.uk/commercial-property-north-east/news/2010/09/01/three-more-retailers-join-rush-to-bridges-51140-27174473/

YorkshireMackem
September 1st, 2010, 01:34 PM
Three more retailers join rush to Bridges
September 1st 2010, by Peter McCusker, The Journal

http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/nebusiness/sep2010/7/8/bridges-shopping-centre-388120111.jpg

THE Bridges shopping centre in Sunderland has announced three new deals with retailers as interest in Land Securities’ mall appears to be staying strong.

Clothing retailer Bank, which stocks designer brands such as Paul’s Boutique, Lipsy, Superdry and Henleys, will open a 3,350sq ft unit on Market Square Mall on a 10-year lease.

JD Sports Fashion, with more than 400 stores across the UK, has agreed a 10-year lease and an upsize to a new 6,700sq ft unit alongside Bank. Both retailers look set to launch in autumn this year.

Clothing chain Internacionale will also be opening the doors of a new outlet in the centre this month on Crowtree Mail after signing a five-year deal on a 3,300sq ft unit.

The new deals follow quickly on from last month’s new arrivals, Disney and Blue Inc.

In total more than 26,000sq ft of retail space has been let this year bringing more than 100 new jobs to the region.

Jonathan Buckle, Bridges portfolio manager, said: “The new deals are coming thick and fast this year which is phenomenal news for shoppers in Sunderland.

“This trio of new deals follows hot on the heels also of Starbucks, Schuh and Pandora – all leading retailers which have proven to be great assets to our portfolio, as well as heightening our customer experience and providing a boost to the local economy.”


ARTICLE HERE - http://www.nebusiness.co.uk/commercial-property-north-east/news/2010/09/01/three-more-retailers-join-rush-to-bridges-51140-27174473/

This is all great news.

I didn't know that Disney had opened a shop in the Bridges - this is excellent. Also, Bank is quite a well regarded chain.

From what I hear, the Holmeside development has stalled completely and the proposed new developer has backed off. The owners of ' The Point' (former ABC Cinema) have made it clear that they don't intend to sell, which I believe has scared off the proposed developer as it would prevent a scheme which fits into the development framework from being carried out.

Anyway, my point is that since the Holmeside development will not happen in the near future, could this offer encouragement for Land Securities (the owners of the Bridges) to proceed with their plans to extend the shopping centre into the City Council owned Crowtree Leisure Centre land, as proposed in the past.

This would certainly be beneficial in removing the eyesore that is Crowtree (as much as I have a lot of affection for the place) and in creating the mass of retail development that was previously proposed for Holmeside. It would also be hugely beneficial in linking the historic areas around the Minster/Empire Theatre/Low Row to the retail core.

denm
September 1st, 2010, 01:56 PM
^^^^


Very good news regarding the new Retailers in the Bridges, ------as for the Holmeside Development, ---YM, --do you know if a revised plan for that area is in the offing, ---or have you not heard anymore about this, -----and regarding expanding the Bridges, ---I believe that land securities were given first refusal for the Leisure Centre, --but turned the option down.

horokeio
September 1st, 2010, 07:32 PM
I was checking in to report these recent retail developments but I've been beaten to it! I was especially pleased to see that Bank had taken a unit (next to the relocated JD store). From my reckoning, this means only the old travel agents (versus Topshop), the perenially-empty unit next to H Samuel near the entrance to the market hall, the old Linen Mills shop next to Tesco and the Barretts shoe shop on the corner opposite HMV. Of course, the relocation of JD will leave a unit further up the mall empty, meaning a total of five (out of about 90). Furthermore, I noticed the Barretts site had boards up and a Schuh advert on the side - does this suggest that Schuh is moving to larger premises, or was it just an advert?

Elsewhere in the city centre, a brand new barbers is opening inside Park Lane Metro station, near the ticket machines. Also, Collinsons jewellers has expanded and taken over the old Milligans store, opposite TK Maxx/Debenhams.

YorkshireMackem
September 2nd, 2010, 05:18 PM
^^^^


Very good news regarding the new Retailers in the Bridges, ------as for the Holmeside Development, ---YM, --do you know if a revised plan for that area is in the offing, ---or have you not heard anymore about this, -----and regarding expanding the Bridges, ---I believe that land securities were given first refusal for the Leisure Centre, --but turned the option down.

You could be right mate, im not too clued up on the situation with Crowtree and Land Securities but as far as I know this is the case:

When Thornfield (the original Holmeside developer who have now gone bust) formed the development agreement with One North East (who now own 75% of the land), it was agreed that the City Council would not be allowed to release the Crowtree land to Land Securities for further development of the Bridges, in case it provided adverse competition for the Holmeside scheme.

Since the development agreement, as I have now discovered, was never actually signed, this stipulation is now void.

I would be surprised if Land Securities did not pounce on the opportunity left by the dormant Holmeside scheme. I read in Property Week magazine, in an interview with Dave Smith (Sunderland City Council CEO) that until the economic downturn the City Council were ready to progress the Bridges expansion scheme, only to be hit by the economic crisis. This resulted in the City Council being able to allow the exclusivity agreement with Thornfield, given that the Bridges expansion was not likely to happen in the near future. However, it looks like things are on the up in terms of retail, and given the situation on the Holmeside scheme, I would expect some movement from Land Securities in some shape or form.

denm
September 3rd, 2010, 10:05 AM
^^^^

Would be great if something happened with this, ----suppose it's just another case of wait and see, cheers.

architect1976
September 23rd, 2010, 04:27 PM
http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/local/shopping_centre_set_for_15m_expansion_1_1609783

Published on Thu Sep 23 14:23:41 BST 2010

A NEW £15million development in Sunderland city centre looks set to create more than 150 jobs.

Land Securities, owner of the Bridges shopping centre, has announced its intentions to build a three-story, 60,000 sq ft Primark store at the High Street West and Walworth Way entrance to the retail space.

Plans will be submitted for consultation next month and the company is hoping work on the expansion will begin in 2011.

Jonathan Buckle, portfolio manager for the Bridges, said he was delighted to be bringing good news to Sunderland.

Speaking to the Echo he said: “This is a significant investment programme which demonstrates Land Securities’ commitment and confidence in Sunderland.

“Our objectives are to enhance the shopping experience we provide for the 21million customers who visit the centre each year by ensuring more of their favourite high street fashion brands are located within the Bridges and to enhance the centre’s reputation as one of the best shopping and fashion destinations in the North East.

“Primark has outgrown its existing store, located on Fawcett Street, and is very keen to remain in the city.

“The Bridges is fast becoming a fashion hub and with the likes of Bank, H&M, New Look, Top Shop, River Island and Schuh already part of the retail offer, we are confident that this is the right location for the brand new Primark store.”

The swathing cuts in the public sector set to be announced next month mean that the announcement of growth and investment in the city centre has been warmly received throughout the area.

Gary Hutchinson, chairman of the Sunderland committee of the North East Chamber of Commerce (NECC) said the news was all the better, given the financial climate of the region.

He said: “This is excellent news for Sunderland.

“A wider choice of retail outlets in the city will lead to an increase in the number of people shopping in Sunderland.

“This, in turn, will boost our local economy and give us a platform on which we can further develop the city as a whole. The city centre has been recognised as a key area in need of support and the NECC will do just that.

“By working with the city council and other key partners we aim to continue to help our city centre to reach its full potential.

“In the meantime, I would urge the people of Sunderland to continue to give their backing to our local stores. Please utilise the services we have on our doorstep and shop locally wherever possible.”

The plans for the development are on show and people are invited to view them and to meet the project team between 10am and 6pm today and between 9am and 5pm tomorrow at the Central Square.

Good news.

YorkshireMackem
September 23rd, 2010, 05:55 PM
http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/local/shopping_centre_set_for_15m_expansion_1_1609783



Good news.

Its great news!

Not only is it investment in new development and improving the quality of the shopping experience, but it also frees up the large Primark unit on Fawcett Street for another large retailer.

Most big retailers are looking for big premises at the moment, so I can see a decent retailer going into this unit quite quickly.

Hopefully it'll encourage more investment in High Street West, as the rest of it is looking pretty run down.

architect1976
September 24th, 2010, 08:30 AM
Its great news!

Not only is it investment in new development and improving the quality of the shopping experience, but it also frees up the large Primark unit on Fawcett Street for another large retailer.

Most big retailers are looking for big premises at the moment, so I can see a decent retailer going into this unit quite quickly.

Hopefully it'll encourage more investment in High Street West, as the rest of it is looking pretty run down.

They need to bulldoze the derelict buildings, it really does look a mess at the moment. It has the potential to widen the street scene within the city centre but people just don't want to go there in it's current state.

Would you want to live/work next door to this??

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mMsYLr8BQO8/SpOuILbHzWI/AAAAAAAAACc/UylA5Aofhxs/s320/eyesores+ll.jpg

:ohno:

YorkshireMackem
September 24th, 2010, 10:38 AM
They need to bulldoze the derelict buildings, it really does look a mess at the moment. It has the potential to widen the street scene within the city centre but people just don't want to go there in it's current state.

Would you want to live/work next door to this??

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mMsYLr8BQO8/SpOuILbHzWI/AAAAAAAAACc/UylA5Aofhxs/s320/eyesores+ll.jpg

:ohno:

Yeah, I agree. Sunderland has a much larger city centre than is actually used. The extent of High St, as well as the streets to the east of Sunniside have some decent buildings (in between really crap ones), and should form an integral part of the city centre.

The problem with demolitions is that they can be hard to push through. I am involved with a couple of buildings in Gloucester that we want to demolish, but planning policy states that demolition has to be justified against any possible alternative uses for the buildings. The buildings are crap, but its taking months to prove that they are unmarketable and unusable before we can get demolitions consent.

denm
September 24th, 2010, 10:53 AM
They need to bulldoze the derelict buildings, it really does look a mess at the moment. It has the potential to widen the street scene within the city centre but people just don't want to go there in it's current state.

Would you want to live/work next door to this??

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mMsYLr8BQO8/SpOuILbHzWI/AAAAAAAAACc/UylA5Aofhxs/s320/eyesores+ll.jpg

:ohno:

I agree there are some buildings that need to be Demolished, --and the one pictured is a prime example, -----btw, is the building the old Liverpool House?, --if so, --I thought there were plans to Demolish it as plans for a Hotel and apartments.

denm
September 24th, 2010, 11:12 AM
http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/local/shopping_centre_set_for_15m_expansion_1_1609783



Good news.



I think this is excellent news for the City Centre, ---especially in today's economic climate, ---as for the proposed area of the Development, --I have always thought that this entrance/area of the Bridges could have been utilised much better, --so it's pleasing that this Development will improve the part of the Bridges,-----the only concern for me is the building in Fawcett Street, ---lets hope another Retailer will move in when Primark vacate the premises, ---we don't want that large building being left empty for long.

architect1976
September 24th, 2010, 12:56 PM
I agree there are some buildings that need to be Demolished, --and the one pictured is a prime example, -----btw, is the building the old Liverpool House?, --if so, --I thought there were plans to Demolish it as plans for a Hotel and apartments.

I know there was, I worked on them. But the developer pulled out due to the council refusing to let them go 1 storey higher than was previously proposed, but that was about 3 years ago now.

architect1976
September 24th, 2010, 01:29 PM
A couple of pics to add.

http://sunderlandnow.co.uk/images/stories/bridge12345.png
PROPOSED SITE PLAN

http://sunderlandnow.co.uk/images/stories/60582_435387426670_637261670_5631461_5636205_n.jpg
PROPOSED ENTRANCE VIEW

http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/3135/bridges.jpg
CURRENT ENTRANCE VIEW.

YorkshireMackem
September 24th, 2010, 01:53 PM
I know there was, I worked on them. But the developer pulled out due to the council refusing to let them go 1 storey higher than was previously proposed, but that was about 3 years ago now.

I thought it was this one:

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/2681/travelodgehighstreetwes.jpg

architect1976
September 24th, 2010, 03:23 PM
I thought it was this one:

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/2681/travelodgehighstreetwes.jpg

Nope the one I worked on was red brick and had a curved roof with dormers built in. Shame really, would have been canny.

Le Chuck
September 24th, 2010, 08:30 PM
I don't know if this has been said or if it's common knowledge, but Modelzone is opening up in the bridges.

This is going to be inbetween carphonewarehouse & Esquire coffee

denm
October 6th, 2010, 05:11 PM
This is excellent news, ----from the Echo, ----



Hundreds of jobs in storeSponsored by Lumley Castle

Published on Wed Oct 06 12:45:39 BST 2010


TWO new superstores could create up to 1,300 jobs for Sunderland, and free the Vaux site for development.


Sainsbury’s today revealed plans for a new store and petrol station on the Jennings car showroom site in Riverside Road, Southwick – bringing 500 much-needed jobs to Wearside’s recession-weary economy.

It came as councillors approved Tesco’s application for a major outlet on the run-down Sunderland Retail Park, in Roker, creating 800 jobs.

That scheme is expected to end the long-running dispute over the Vaux site, as Tesco has agreed in principle to sell it to Sunderland Council for development.


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YorkshireMackem
October 7th, 2010, 12:46 PM
This is excellent news, ----from the Echo, ----



Hundreds of jobs in storeSponsored by Lumley Castle

Published on Wed Oct 06 12:45:39 BST 2010


TWO new superstores could create up to 1,300 jobs for Sunderland, and free the Vaux site for development.


Sainsbury’s today revealed plans for a new store and petrol station on the Jennings car showroom site in Riverside Road, Southwick – bringing 500 much-needed jobs to Wearside’s recession-weary economy.

It came as councillors approved Tesco’s application for a major outlet on the run-down Sunderland Retail Park, in Roker, creating 800 jobs.

That scheme is expected to end the long-running dispute over the Vaux site, as Tesco has agreed in principle to sell it to Sunderland Council for development.


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Too right mate. Its excellent news, in fact its better than excellent.

Not only is it creating a huge number of jobs for local residents when jobs are hard to come by, its regenerating a derelict retail park on a key approach to the city centre and its providing significantly more retail offer for the north side of the city.

Most importantly, though, its going to free up the Vaux site for development. The Vaux site really has the ability to transform the city centre and the economic fortunes of the city as a whole.

sterock85
October 7th, 2010, 01:22 PM
This is excellent news, ----from the Echo, ----



Hundreds of jobs in storeSponsored by Lumley Castle

Published on Wed Oct 06 12:45:39 BST 2010


TWO new superstores could create up to 1,300 jobs for Sunderland, and free the Vaux site for development.


Sainsbury’s today revealed plans for a new store and petrol station on the Jennings car showroom site in Riverside Road, Southwick – bringing 500 much-needed jobs to Wearside’s recession-weary economy.

It came as councillors approved Tesco’s application for a major outlet on the run-down Sunderland Retail Park, in Roker, creating 800 jobs.

That scheme is expected to end the long-running dispute over the Vaux site, as Tesco has agreed in principle to sell it to Sunderland Council for development.


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Great news!:cheers:

raff007
October 7th, 2010, 08:52 PM
Too right mate. Its excellent news, in fact its better than excellent.

Not only is it creating a huge number of jobs for local residents when jobs are hard to come by, its regenerating a derelict retail park on a key approach to the city centre and its providing significantly more retail offer for the north side of the city.

Most importantly, though, its going to free up the Vaux site for development. The Vaux site really has the ability to transform the city centre and the economic fortunes of the city as a whole.

Whilst I wholeheartedly agree, do you really think we will see anything happen with the site in the next 5-10years? I just cant see it, especially given the current climate, and all the government cuts.

Sorry if im pessimistic, forgive me i am a sunderland fan....:D:D:D

horokeio
October 8th, 2010, 02:52 AM
Whilst I wholeheartedly agree, do you really think we will see anything happen with the site in the next 5-10years? I just cant see it, especially given the current climate, and all the government cuts.

Sorry if im pessimistic, forgive me i am a sunderland fan....:D:D:D



You can be forgiven for your pessimism based on the gridlock of the past ten years, and I am a Sunderland fan too, but we can apportion much of the blame to Tesco. Looking elsewhere in the region, not just at the brewery site in Newcastle, but at Manhattan Gate in Middlesbrough and the mixed use developments at Gateshead Quays, important regeneration work has gone ahead despite the recession. Sunderland should be no different.

YorkshireMackem
October 8th, 2010, 11:00 AM
Whilst I wholeheartedly agree, do you really think we will see anything happen with the site in the next 5-10years? I just cant see it, especially given the current climate, and all the government cuts.

Sorry if im pessimistic, forgive me i am a sunderland fan....:D:D:D

Yes I do actually.

We all know that the Vaux development is critical to things happening in the rest of the city, and we know that it has been incredibly frustrating, but we have to realise why exactly things haven't happened so far.

The site has been in the ownership of a massive, powerful private company for years now, and so the financial clout of the public sector was never going to prize it away from them with funding alone. It is ultimately the planning system that has forced them out and forced them to build a supermarket elsewhere to an appropriate scale in an appropriate location.

Once the planning system had made it clear that they couldn't build a supermarket on the site, Tesco quite understandably wanted to get the best possible price for their asset, and have therefore held out in the knowledge that the public sector has been desperate to acquire this site and that a 'result' is so important in political terms. However, Tesco aren't daft. They realise that if they don't sell the site now, they possibly won't for another 10 years as the public purse is tightening and no private sector developer would be able to raise the capital finance to develop the site without public sector aid.

As far as I am aware, the funding to purchase the site is coming from Sunderland City Council and One North East will complete the transaction on their behalf. Sunderland City Council will then take ownership of the land and work with the appointed developer and the Economic Development Company, which Sunderland arc will soon become (expect an announcement soon on this).

So basically, the deal is safe, as far as I can see. A developer has been chosen and a development agreement will come forward once the land transaction is complete. The phasing of development will be affected by market conditions, but I would expect the first phase to come forward immediately.

denm
October 8th, 2010, 11:56 AM
^^^^

Makes sense, --and I hope your right, --fingers crossed.:)

horokeio
October 10th, 2010, 07:31 PM
The clothing chain Bank, which has recently opened a store on Northumberland Street, Newcastle, is opening in the Market Square Mall of the Bridges, next week.

kingdom bhoy
October 11th, 2010, 10:43 AM
I have heard that SAFC are definately NOT going to open their own outlet in the Bridges and are just keeping their Debenhams outlet.

Seems a strange decision.

denm
October 11th, 2010, 11:28 AM
The clothing chain Bank, which has recently opened a store on Northumberland Street, Newcastle, is opening in the Market Square Mall of the Bridges, next week.


Thats good news, ---can't be many units empty now.

denm
October 14th, 2010, 12:31 PM
Primark/Bridges proposal gets the thumbs up from shoppers, ----84% of people said they approve of the proposal to build a Primark in the Expansion of the Bridges, ----the Council will decide on the proposed Development later this month, --and if it goes through, --work could begin earl next year.

Le Chuck
October 14th, 2010, 07:14 PM
The clothing chain Bank, which has recently opened a store on Northumberland Street, Newcastle, is opening in the Market Square Mall of the Bridges, next week.

it opened last week. New JD Soprts opens on the 23rd Oct & looks like Maplin Electronics is moving into the old Ponden Mill store next to WH Smiths

YorkshireMackem
October 15th, 2010, 10:44 AM
it opened last week. New JD Soprts opens on the 23rd Oct & looks like Maplin Electronics is moving into the old Ponden Mill store next to WH Smiths

:banana::cheers:

That's great news. When im shopping, that's the only shop I have to go to Newcastle for. I won't have to go anywhere near the place now ;)

Seriously though, Sunderland seems to be attracting a series of quality retailers recently. I just hope that this continues to the extent that Land Securities decide to further develop the Bridges, either into the Crowtree Leisure Centre land or around Market Square, which is in desperate need of renewal, in my opinion.

Le Chuck
October 18th, 2010, 07:20 PM
H Samuals are moving into the old Barretts Shoe Shop

denm
October 19th, 2010, 11:06 AM
H Samuals are moving into the old Barretts Shoe Shop


Barretts, -- was this the shop that used to be at the corner of the two malls? ---if so I think it's a good location for any retailer.

denm
October 19th, 2010, 02:47 PM
Bad news, --this from the Echo, --



Axe falls on £180m scheme that could have revitalised city centre
How the Holmeside triangle could have looked.

Published on Tue Oct 19 13:19:50 BST 2010


A £180million city centre retail development with the North East’s highest building at its core is now off the cards.


 The redevelopment of the “Holmeside Triangle” – which would have created 1,700 jobs and included the 100m high Spirit of Sunderland tower – was thrown into doubt earlier this year when one of the companies behind it went into administration.

Hopes were originally high the development would go ahead, but now Dave Smith, chief executive of Sunderland City Council, has admitted the development is on the rocks.

He said: “There’s no real prospect of Holmeside being developed into a retail centre in the immediate future. What we do have is continuing discussions with Land Securities about opportunities for the development of the Bridges over a period of time. I think it’s off the cards at the moment,”

Dr Smith said the council would “evaluate opportunities” for retail and other uses at Holmeside.

Vince Taylor, head of strategic economic development at the council, said consultants DTZ were now looking at Holmeside and officers were awaiting the outcome of their work.

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The Holmeside development was caught up in the collapse of Thornfield Ventures, a non-trading holding company which was part of the Thornfield Group, in January.

Just a month earlier, Sunderland arc boss David Walker revealed talks were underway on securing the main tenants for the Holmeside development.

He said Thornfield – which was to build the new retail centre –boasted it was the company that always delivers.

The council signed a development deal with Thornfield in June 2009. A planning application had been due this summer with work due to start in early 2013 and end in 2015.

To seal the deal, the council and the developer signed an “exclusivity agreement”, which gauranteed the authority would not free up council-owned land for competing developments which might have jeopardised the Holmeside project.

It also blocked the redevelopment of certain kinds of retail and leisure development at Jacky White’s market and Crowtree Leisure Centre, leading to a challenge from Bridge’s owner Land Securities and attracting criticism over the council’s handling of the deal from Sunderland Conservatives.

Sunderland Tory leader Tony Morrissey said yesterday the news of the Holmeside development’s demise was a “mixed blessing” as it gave the opportunity to have a fresh look at how to develop the area.

He added: “We need to create a city centre which will attract people back to live and work there, and it still needs a lot of work.”

Dr Smith’s comments were made as part of the launch of Sunderland’s Economic Masterplan yesterday. See Page 4 for full coverage.

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sterock85
October 19th, 2010, 05:55 PM
Very disappointing.

Would have been a development that for me would have completely changed the outlook of Sunderland. This development along with the Vaux development would have nearly doubled the size of Sunderland retail and office space.

Gutted, but probably not that surprised :(


I'm not that clued up on financial stuff and how such developments work, but it seems whilst NewcastleGateshead were being transformed further in the late 90s/early 00s we were missing out and left it too late for 'grand' developments to happen.

Imagine a Sunderland with the Holmside development/Spirit of Sunderland, Vaux development, New Bridge, Stadium Village = bridge link to Vaux, further Sunniside developments, Train station upgraded at street level & Bridges extended to cover Market Square and the Crowtree. Plus smaller improvements to high street west/buildings/Blandford Street. So much potential to make Sunderland a good city. With all the extra offices and retail the place would be thriving.

And sorry I'm just rambling now so sorry if it all seems to make no sense, but it's so frustrating that most of this won't happen.

denm
October 20th, 2010, 10:55 AM
Very disappointing.

Would have been a development that for me would have completely changed the outlook of Sunderland. This development along with the Vaux development would have nearly doubled the size of Sunderland retail and office space.

Gutted, but probably not that surprised :(


I'm not that clued up on financial stuff and how such developments work, but it seems whilst NewcastleGateshead were being transformed further in the late 90s/early 00s we were missing out and left it too late for 'grand' developments to happen.

Imagine a Sunderland with the Holmside development/Spirit of Sunderland, Vaux development, New Bridge, Stadium Village = bridge link to Vaux, further Sunniside developments, Train station upgraded at street level & Bridges extended to cover Market Square and the Crowtree. Plus smaller improvements to high street west/buildings/Blandford Street. So much potential to make Sunderland a good city. With all the extra offices and retail the place would be thriving.

And sorry I'm just rambling now so sorry if it all seems to make no sense, but it's so frustrating that most of this won't happen.



I Know how you feel marra, ----and although this is disappointing news, --and there's probably more on the way, -------there are some positive things to look forward too, -- ie Tescos planned Development --which will create hundreds of jobs, --but more importantly they are selling the Vaux site, --and hopefully we will see something happening on that site within 12 months, ---also there's Sainsbury, --and also the Software City Building to start next year too, ---so a few things to look forward too, cheers.

Talisker
October 20th, 2010, 11:05 AM
I certainly agree that this is disapointing but unsurprising news. Of course I'm going to blame sunderland arc for failing yet again, but in all honesty it's not in any way a unique problem to sunderland. All over the UK there have been many projects - maybe even the majority - that have fallen through. It's the same in Leeds, Newcastle, Manchester, London, Birmingham, Glasgow etc. Everywhere people are saying if only such and such a project was built, thing would be amazing. Sometimes I just get the impression the half of the grand plans are nothing but false schemes to raise land value.

Personally If I had my way I'd shift the focus to the area around the central station. Basically completely demolish the entire street above the station and build something much more substantial - 5 or 6 storeys the whole length of the street from high street to holmside with retail on the lower 2 floors and appartments or offices above.

denm
October 20th, 2010, 11:17 AM
I certainly agree that this is disapointing but unsurprising news. Of course I'm going to blame sunderland arc for failing yet again, but in all honesty it's not in any way a unique problem to sunderland. All over the UK there have been many projects - maybe even the majority - that have fallen through. It's the same in Leeds, Newcastle, Manchester, London, Birmingham, Glasgow etc. Everywhere people are saying if only such and such a project was built, thing would be amazing. Sometimes I just get the impression the half of the grand plans are nothing but false schemes to raise land value.

Personally If I had my way I'd shift the focus to the area around the central station. Basically completely demolish the entire street above the station and build something much more substantial - 5 or 6 storeys the whole length of the street from high street to holmside with retail on the lower 2 floors and appartments or offices above.


Yes the news of the Holmeside Triangles demise is not unexpected, ---and like you say, --quite a few Developments around the Country have gone the same way, ---but hopefully they can have another look at this area, --and maybe come up with new plans.

oursurveysays
October 20th, 2010, 05:09 PM
I'm not that clued up on financial stuff and how such developments work, but it seems whilst NewcastleGateshead were being transformed further in the late 90s/early 00s we were missing out and left it too late for 'grand' developments to happen.

That is a little simplistic but has elements of truth. Sunderland as a retail centre cannot compete with Newcastle; Newcastle's position in the North East retail hierarchy goes back a lot further than the 90s however whilst most councils have been able to facilitate development and improve town and city centres Sunderland have dilly-dallied, the prime example being Vaux. Allowing Tesco to buy that was a terrible decision. One of Sunderland City Centre's main detractors is the fact its office and indeed urban provision is vastly less than Newcastle - the out of town office developments born out of the Enterprize Zones have seen to that. A city centre needs a good mix of work, retail and leisure facilities to thrive. Driving offices out of the city and the inability to realise key sites like Vaux in times of prosperity I'm afraid means Sunderland has somewhat missed the boat.

re. Holmeside, this is actually a sensible decision. The original scheme was a pipe dream in a good market, never mind the current one. It is also in a terrible location. It is cut off from the retail core and massively constrained by the railway line, not to mention Mecca Bingo will be hugely expensive to acquire compulsorily. If Vaux is to go ahead on even a small scale and bring people back into the centre during the day then extra comparison retail development needs to be focussed towards that end of town. The Bridges are looking at expanding towards Crowtree and High Street West which is more sensible.

There is not a great deal of demand for retail occupiers to take new space and you only need to look at Newcastle to see even new developments (Eldon Square) is mostly displacing retail from elsewhere in the centre, with Northumberland Street suffering. Also realistically very few retail schemes are going to go ahead in the next few years, since the downturn I think only Leeds Trinity in the entire north of the country has started construction and that was already 2/3s let. Eldon Square started development prior to the downturn and again had commitments on lettings to enable finance.

YorkshireMackem
November 2nd, 2010, 04:48 PM
I saw an interesting article, which I have scanned in, in Property Week magazine:

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/8184/propertyweek.jpg

It seems very positive overall, especially the comments from the portfolio manager regarding how busy and how surprised retailers are that the centre is so busy.

This is what I have always thought about Sunderland. It seems to have a potentially large enough catchment area in terms of access and population as anywhere else in the North East, and has the population there to exploit. The retail centre is busy as it is but the main problem is that a lot of people from Sunderland tend to shop elsewhere, it's not like they don't shop at all. If enough quality retailers come on board and quality 'transformational' developments happen, I think we could not only see a claw-back of leakage from NCL and MC, but also see more people being drawn into the centre from wider areas such as Seaham, Hartlepool, Peterlee, Durham and even South Tyneside.

It looks to me like Land Securities are starting to show some faith in the city and in its spending power.

I have heard on the grapevine that a major department store is close to committing to becoming the anchor tenant for ANOTHER extension of the Bridges. I don't know where the new development will be but I hope that it involves the development of Crowtree.

denm
November 2nd, 2010, 05:24 PM
I saw an interesting article, which I have scanned in, in Property Week magazine:

It seems very positive overall, especially the comments from the portfolio manager regarding how busy and how surprised retailers are that the centre is so busy.

This is what I have always thought about Sunderland. It seems to have a potentially large enough catchment area in terms of access and population as anywhere else in the North East, and has the population there to exploit. The retail centre is busy as it is but the main problem is that a lot of people from Sunderland tend to shop elsewhere, it's not like they don't shop at all. If enough quality retailers come on board and quality 'transformational' developments happen, I think we could not only see a claw-back of leakage from NCL and MC, but also see more people being drawn into the centre from wider areas such as Seaham, Hartlepool, Peterlee, Durham and even South Tyneside.

It looks to me like Land Securities are starting to show some faith in the city and in its spending power.

I have heard on the grapevine that a major department store is close to committing to becoming the anchor tenant for ANOTHER extension of the Bridges. I don't know where the new development will be but I hope that it involves the development of Crowtree.


Another extension sounds very promising YM,---and could well include the Crowtree end of the Bridges, ---of course Land Securities has always been the obvious choice to Develop the Leisure Centre, --and I'm fairly sure had first refusal if and when Crowtree was to be sold, --so I'm really pleased to read what you have said, lets hope it's true,--cheers marra.

denm
November 4th, 2010, 05:34 PM
Bit more about the expansion, ---this from the Echo, --



Shopping centre expansion moves step closer
Part of the proposed Bridges extension is a new Primark store
By Tim Booler
Published on Thu Nov 04 12:32:32 GMT 2010


A £15million shopping development has moved a step closer to fruition.


A planning application has been formally submitted to Sunderland Council for an extension to The Bridges.

The scheme proposes a three-storey 60,000 sqft Primark store and a new entrance to The Bridges at High Street West. If approved, work is expected to start next year.

The development is expected to create up to 150 much-needed jobs and provide a boost to the city centre economy at a time when business confidence is low.

The official application includes the full results of a two-day public consultation exercise in Sunderland.

Footfall counters showed that more than 109,000 people passed through Central Square over both days, and therefore had a chance to review the exhibition of the plans and ask questions.

A report for Bridges’ owner Land Securities, which accompanied the application, stated: “During the public consultation there was a strong and consistent flow of people stopping to review the boards and discuss the proposals with the senior team.”

A total of 175 comment forms were filled in.

The results showed that 84 per cent backed the plan for a new three-storey Primark, and 78 per cent agreed that it would attract more people to shop in Sunderland.

The survey showed that 68 per cent said the development would have a positive impact on the range of shops on officer in Sunderland, which already has high street fashion retailers Bank, H&M, New Look, Topshop, River Island and Schuh.

However, one worry which cropped up mirrored that raised by Echo columnist Linda Colling. The survey report said: “The only concern people expressed was that they felt that Fawcett Street could become less popular. Our response to this concern was that Land Securities will be working hand in hand with Primark and Sunderland City Council to try and secure another occupier.”

The council’s official public consultation period for the planning application has started, and runs until November 18



EDIT - THIS POST TRANSFERRED TO THE NEW "BRIDGES EXPANSION PROJECT THREAD".

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YorkshireMackem
November 8th, 2010, 12:35 AM
Pleased to report that J.G. Windows (of Windows Arcade fame) have opened an outlet in the Crowtree Mall of the Bridges, and have been open as of Saturday.

Its mainly a DVD/CD shop, similar to what Music Zone used to be like.

Good to see an established North East retailer making its way into Sunderland. Popped in after the match and got 3 DVDs for a tenner.:cheers:

sterock85
November 8th, 2010, 01:05 AM
wow! that's actually pretty cool :)

One of my favourite shops in Newcastle.

Great news anyway. Very positive sign for Sunderland retail.

horokeio
November 8th, 2010, 02:06 AM
wow! that's actually pretty cool :)

One of my favourite shops in Newcastle.

Great news anyway. Very positive sign for Sunderland retail.

Agreed - it's a great shop. Had no idea a branch was opening in Sunderland. If it's in Crowtree Mall I'm guessing it must be in the old travel agency unit opposite Topman?

In recent months we've seen quite a few businesses open new branches in Sunderland, with others expanding - all encouraging signs.

kingdom bhoy
November 8th, 2010, 08:09 AM
Pleased to report that J.G. Windows (of Windows Arcade fame) have opened an outlet in the Crowtree Mall of the Bridges, and have been open as of Saturday.

Its mainly a DVD/CD shop, similar to what Music Zone used to be like.

Good to see an established North East retailer making its way into Sunderland. Popped in after the match and got 3 DVDs for a tenner.:cheers:


Excellent news.

denm
November 8th, 2010, 11:19 AM
Pleased to report that J.G. Windows (of Windows Arcade fame) have opened an outlet in the Crowtree Mall of the Bridges, and have been open as of Saturday.

Its mainly a DVD/CD shop, similar to what Music Zone used to be like.

Good to see an established North East retailer making its way into Sunderland. Popped in after the match and got 3 DVDs for a tenner.:cheers:

Pleased about this retailer moving into the Bridges, think this is good news.

YorkshireMackem
November 8th, 2010, 11:35 AM
Agreed - it's a great shop. Had no idea a branch was opening in Sunderland. If it's in Crowtree Mall I'm guessing it must be in the old travel agency unit opposite Topman?

In recent months we've seen quite a few businesses open new branches in Sunderland, with others expanding - all encouraging signs.

Correct. I think so anyway.

Apparently they had only been officially open a few hours when we went in. Spoke to the guy on the till who said that they had only secured the lease about 2 days earlier and had wanted to get in and open as soon as possible.

denm
November 8th, 2010, 12:03 PM
Correct. I think so anyway.

Apparently they had only been officially open a few hours when we went in. Spoke to the guy on the till who said that they had only secured the lease about 2 days earlier and had wanted to get in and open as soon as possible.

Good to see this retailer in the Bridges, ---think they are in a good spot too.

Le Chuck
November 8th, 2010, 08:36 PM
Agreed - it's a great shop. Had no idea a branch was opening in Sunderland. If it's in Crowtree Mall I'm guessing it must be in the old travel agency unit opposite Topman?

In recent months we've seen quite a few businesses open new branches in Sunderland, with others expanding - all encouraging signs.

it is, mind its not very big. Also next to where the new H Samuals is to be, there is going to be a milkshake bar

horokeio
November 9th, 2010, 12:54 AM
Correct. I think so anyway.

Apparently they had only been officially open a few hours when we went in. Spoke to the guy on the till who said that they had only secured the lease about 2 days earlier and had wanted to get in and open as soon as possible.



Excellent - and very pleasing that the deal went through so quickly. I've long thought Sunderland needed a decent record shop because there's only really HMV and Hot Rats; not so long ago I remember Our Price, one where New Look now is, Woolworths (where I bought my first Beatles LP) and Music Zone in addition to the old HMV on High Street West. I even remember Wilkinsons having a music section on the second or third floor.

horokeio
November 9th, 2010, 12:57 AM
it is, mind its not very big. Also next to where the new H Samuals is to be, there is going to be a milkshake bar


This is also good news - another unit let, and something a bit different. Any idea whether it will be a chain, or independent?

Le Chuck
November 9th, 2010, 09:52 AM
This is also good news - another unit let, and something a bit different. Any idea whether it will be a chain, or independent?

its these
http://www.shakeaholic.com/index.php

denm
November 9th, 2010, 11:50 AM
its these
http://www.shakeaholic.com/index.php


Great if you like Milkshake/Chocolate like.:lol:----seriously though, -- at least it's one less empty unit, ---can't be many empty units left now?

fazaz
November 9th, 2010, 01:49 PM
Hi all - I post on the Newcastle forum a lot, but need a bit of info on Washington, and could not see any thread on The Galleries

If any of you follow the Newcastle section, you will know a good friend of mine is the Franchisor in North East for up and coming sandwich chain Baguette Express - who are massive in Scotland, and have now started expanding into England. They already have 3 stores in Newcastle and one in Sunderland, and are currently toying with the idea of The Galleries as a potential spot for their next opening

I note there are not all that many sandwich food outlets there - just the usual suspects such as Subway / Greggs and so on

BE is cheap food - one tier price structure - pay £2.50 for a baguette / panini / salad / jacket spud / wrap and get UNLIMITED fillings for that set price - double meat, double cheese - nothing extra

Sandwiches / Rolls and toasties are even cheaper, around the £2 mark - and they do 99p breakfast menu.

All food prepared fresh daily in-store, and every filling (25+!!!) made from scratch - nothing bought in ready made - baguettes baked fresh every hour or so bla bla bla

What are peoples views on it? I know it is being redeveloped, but as a retail centre - would a brand such as BE be well received there bearing the above pricing and concept in mind?

architect1976
November 9th, 2010, 01:56 PM
If it's cheaper than Greggs then you'll make a killing in The Galleries.

denm
November 9th, 2010, 04:24 PM
Hi all - I post on the Newcastle forum a lot, but need a bit of info on Washington, and could not see any thread on The Galleries

If any of you follow the Newcastle section, you will know a good friend of mine is the Franchisor in North East for up and coming sandwich chain Baguette Express - who are massive in Scotland, and have now started expanding into England. They already have 3 stores in Newcastle and one in Sunderland, and are currently toying with the idea of The Galleries as a potential spot for their next opening

I note there are not all that many sandwich food outlets there - just the usual suspects such as Subway / Greggs and so on

BE is cheap food - one tier price structure - pay £2.50 for a baguette / panini / salad / jacket spud / wrap and get UNLIMITED fillings for that set price - double meat, double cheese - nothing extra

Sandwiches / Rolls and toasties are even cheaper, around the £2 mark - and they do 99p breakfast menu.

All food prepared fresh daily in-store, and every filling (25+!!!) made from scratch - nothing bought in ready made - baguettes baked fresh every hour or so bla bla bla

What are peoples views on it? I know it is being redeveloped, but as a retail centre - would a brand such as BE be well received there bearing the above pricing and concept in mind?


There's quite a few of these type outlets in most Towns and Cities, -----so as for the Galleries, I suppose if the food in your shops is reasonably priced, --then you have a decent chance of doing well.

horokeio
November 9th, 2010, 06:41 PM
its these
http://www.shakeaholic.com/index.php


Good to see a local business branching out and doing well. I can't say that I've been to any of their places but I've heard good things.

horokeio
November 9th, 2010, 06:44 PM
Hi all - I post on the Newcastle forum a lot, but need a bit of info on Washington, and could not see any thread on The Galleries

If any of you follow the Newcastle section, you will know a good friend of mine is the Franchisor in North East for up and coming sandwich chain Baguette Express - who are massive in Scotland, and have now started expanding into England. They already have 3 stores in Newcastle and one in Sunderland, and are currently toying with the idea of The Galleries as a potential spot for their next opening

I note there are not all that many sandwich food outlets there - just the usual suspects such as Subway / Greggs and so on

BE is cheap food - one tier price structure - pay £2.50 for a baguette / panini / salad / jacket spud / wrap and get UNLIMITED fillings for that set price - double meat, double cheese - nothing extra

Sandwiches / Rolls and toasties are even cheaper, around the £2 mark - and they do 99p breakfast menu.

All food prepared fresh daily in-store, and every filling (25+!!!) made from scratch - nothing bought in ready made - baguettes baked fresh every hour or so bla bla bla

What are peoples views on it? I know it is being redeveloped, but as a retail centre - would a brand such as BE be well received there bearing the above pricing and concept in mind?


I think your business should do well out of an outlet at the Galleries, it's certainly quite a busy centre. There are a few malls quieter than others though so location will be important. I imagine there'll be less in the way of passing trade/workers on lunch breaks than your other shops, not sure what proportion of your usual business this comprises.

fazaz
November 9th, 2010, 07:57 PM
I think your business should do well out of an outlet at the Galleries, it's certainly quite a busy centre. There are a few malls quieter than others though so location will be important. I imagine there'll be less in the way of passing trade/workers on lunch breaks than your other shops, not sure what proportion of your usual business this comprises.

BE tends to do well with students / high school kids / younger generation folk in general - we do not really appeal that much to white collar workers

I would say it is very much the same kind of people who go to places such as Shakeaholic

It would be around the Square bit - can not remember the name - the bit where Subway and Carphone Warehouse is I am told

horokeio
November 10th, 2010, 03:00 AM
There often seems to be quite a lot of youths in and around the Galleries, so that bodes well, as does the McDonalds/Subway area of the centre being probably the busiest part. Hope it takes off.

horokeio
November 11th, 2010, 08:11 PM
Walking through town yesterday it was nice to see the sparkling new JD and Bank units, with boards up at the old Barratts shop (H Samuel and Shakeaholic), and at the new Modelzone and Maplins stores. I was disappointed by Windows - although very welcome, it's clear it was a last minute arrangement to shift some CDs and DVDs in the run-up to Christmas, albeit one that might blossom into them taking a larger unit and stocking the kinds of things for which the Central Arcade shop is renowned.

To pick up on a general point made by YM about floor space and the shortage of larger floor plates in Sunderland deterring desirable retailers from committing to the city, why have Land Securities chopped so many larger Bridges stores in half? First there was the old Internacionale/Post Office unit, then the old Dorothy Perkins/MK One, now Barratts. I presume money is the answer, but it seems very short sighted if what YM has said is the case?

YorkshireMackem
November 12th, 2010, 11:57 AM
Walking through town yesterday it was nice to see the sparkling new JD and Bank units, with boards up at the old Barratts shop (H Samuel and Shakeaholic), and at the new Modelzone and Maplins stores. I was disappointed by Windows - although very welcome, it's clear it was a last minute arrangement to shift some CDs and DVDs in the run-up to Christmas, albeit one that might blossom into them taking a larger unit and stocking the kinds of things for which the Central Arcade shop is renowned.

To pick up on a general point made by YM about floor space and the shortage of larger floor plates in Sunderland deterring desirable retailers from committing to the city, why have Land Securities chopped so many larger Bridges stores in half? First there was the old Internacionale/Post Office unit, then the old Dorothy Perkins/MK One, now Barratts. I presume money is the answer, but it seems very short sighted if what YM has said is the case?

I think its probably as a result of who wants what at what time. If a retailer with a smaller requirement comes along, its difficult for Land Sec to say no and so they have to accommodate them anyway they can.

When I was talking about retailers wanting a big floorplate, im mainly referring to the big high street stores such as M&S, Primark, Debenhams, BHS, House of Fraser, John Lewis, etc. These retailers tend to have multiple floors with a large range of types of goods i.e. Home, Clothing, Shoes, Furniture, Lighting, etc. Many of the retailers in the Bridges fit into the smaller units because they are that type of shop.

From what I heard, M&S were looking for larger premises in the Holmeside development, and we have obviously seen Primark's proposed move into bigger premises in the Bridges. Its fair to say that if any other big retailer wanted to move into the city, they would find it difficult to find big enough premises, and therefore I think this is what will bring about another Bridges development.

denm
November 13th, 2010, 12:42 PM
^^^^

YM, --I noticed you mentioned that M&S wanted larger premises in the Holmeside Development, ---but do you know, if there is interest from other bigger retailers ---to move into the Bridges, --if --it was to be expanded into the Crowtree Centre. cheers.

horokeio
November 13th, 2010, 08:53 PM
I think its probably as a result of who wants what at what time. If a retailer with a smaller requirement comes along, its difficult for Land Sec to say no and so they have to accommodate them anyway they can.

When I was talking about retailers wanting a big floorplate, im mainly referring to the big high street stores such as M&S, Primark, Debenhams, BHS, House of Fraser, John Lewis, etc. These retailers tend to have multiple floors with a large range of types of goods i.e. Home, Clothing, Shoes, Furniture, Lighting, etc. Many of the retailers in the Bridges fit into the smaller units because they are that type of shop.

From what I heard, M&S were looking for larger premises in the Holmeside development, and we have obviously seen Primark's proposed move into bigger premises in the Bridges. Its fair to say that if any other big retailer wanted to move into the city, they would find it difficult to find big enough premises, and therefore I think this is what will bring about another Bridges development.


Thanks for your view, I suppose it makes sense that retailers new to Sunderland would want a place in the Bridges. Interesting about M&S - their current store must've been there for generations.

horokeio
November 13th, 2010, 08:55 PM
Big names bring 20million to The Bridges


THE Bridges shopping centre is defying the downturn – with more than 20million people passing through over a six month period.

Figures from owners Land Securities show the Bridges centre has seen average spend on non-food items rise by 20 per cent in the last six months.

The rise was revealed as the company unveiled its performance figures for the six months to the end of October.

Land Securities’ portfolio director Gerald Jennings said the company was pleased with the results.

He said: “Confidence is evident in the Bridges.

“We’ve seen more than 21 million visits this year – with the average shopper spending 61 minutes in the centre and visiting 71 times a year.

“Land Securities has spent a great deal of time listening to what its customers’ needs are, how they’re changing and what retailers they want brought to Sunderland. The increasing number of shoppers we’re attracting and the fact that spend is increasing demonstrates that our active asset management strategy is working for our Sunderland customers.”

This year has seen the centre attract household names such as Bank, Pandora, Modelzone, Maplin, and Disney.

They have also created new and better stores for existing successful retailers JD Sports and H. Samuel.

More than 40,000sq ft has been let in the Bridges in recent months, taking the centre to almost 99 per cent capacity.

Last week Land Securities submitted a planning application for its proposed £15million extension of the Bridges, with a three-storey 60,000sq ft Primark store the main element. This would be double the size of the clothing firm’s existing store in Fawcett Street.

The extension will also create a new entrance to the centre on High Street West.

Bridges portfolio manager Jonathan Buckle said: “We’re really keen to strengthen the centre’s reputation as one of the best shopping and fashion destinations in the North East.

“Therefore we need to continually improve the retail mix and shopping environment within the Bridges, which will ultimately help us make Sunderland a more attractive retail destination to shoppers.”

Nationally, Land Securities made a £455.3million pre-tax profit in the six months to the end of October.

Full article: http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/local/big_names_bring_20million_to_the_bridges_1_2756461

sterock85
November 13th, 2010, 08:55 PM
The M&S in Sunderland currently is very poor in relation to those at Newcastle & the Metrocentre.

horokeio
November 13th, 2010, 08:59 PM
Agreed, though I only ever use the food hall. Nice building though, full of character.

Talisker
November 14th, 2010, 04:27 PM
Welcome to Sunderland:

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j73/xapbpoh/sunstationnov10.jpg

mackem35
November 16th, 2010, 09:22 PM
Welcome to Sunderland:

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j73/xapbpoh/sunstationnov10.jpg

The sad thing it isn't the worst place. I am planning to go down that way so might take my camera and find some better examples. I have been checking stuff on here for ages but finally got around to getting a login. It seems a friendly place it is just a pity that more of the ideas are not taken notice of.

sterock85
November 16th, 2010, 09:47 PM
The sad thing it isn't the worst place. I am planning to go down that way so might take my camera and find some better examples. I have been checking stuff on here for ages but finally got around to getting a login. It seems a friendly place it is just a pity that more of the ideas are not taken notice of.

Welcome!

nice to see a new member on here :)

kingdom bhoy
November 16th, 2010, 11:22 PM
The sad thing it isn't the worst place. I am planning to go down that way so might take my camera and find some better examples. I have been checking stuff on here for ages but finally got around to getting a login. It seems a friendly place it is just a pity that more of the ideas are not taken notice of.

Good to have you on board. :banana::banana::banana:

br5968
November 17th, 2010, 05:02 PM
I was intrigued by the line in the Property Week article Yorkshire Mackem posted about 'changing the tenant mix' at the High Street West end of the Bridges off the back of Primark. Does this point to Tesco or Iceland (or both?) moving on? Certainly now the bus station's not in the centre, there's no real driver for them to stay where they are given they'd probably trade just as well in a less central location (say Blandford Street?)

I see from Graham Soult's blog that Boyes have opened in Bishop Auckland. The old Leveys/Ethel Austin shop would be a good location for them in Sunderland, or failing that, Primark's current site.

Newcastle Historian
November 17th, 2010, 07:23 PM
Sunderland shopping centre plans unveiled
November 17th 2010, by Peter McCusker, The Journal

http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/nebusiness/nov2010/0/5/the-bridges-sunderland-840717211.jpg

THE owner of a popular North East shopping centre has unveiled £15m expansion plans as its latest results show growth returning to the sector.

Land Securities has submitted a planning application to Sunderland City Council for an extension to the city-centre Bridges. This will include a 60,000sq ft Primark store, doubling the size of the existing outlet, as well as a new entrance on High Street West.

If permission is granted, work is anticipated to start next year and is likely to create about 150 construction jobs.

Jonathan Buckle, portfolio manager for The Bridges, said: “We’re really keen to strengthen the centre’s reputation as one of the best shopping and fashion destinations in the North East. “Therefore, we need to continually improve the retail mix and shopping environment.”

Gerald Jennings, Land Securities’ portfolio director, said: “Confidence is evident in the Bridges, Sunderland. “We’ve welcomed more than 21 million Sunderland shoppers to the Bridges this year with the average shopper spending 61 minutes in the centre and visiting 71 times a year. Spend per visit on non-food related items has also increased by 20%.”


Read More - http://www.nebusiness.co.uk/commercial-property-north-east/news/2010/11/17/sunderland-shopping-centre-plans-unveiled-51140-27666009/

sterock85
November 17th, 2010, 07:55 PM
I was intrigued by the line in the Property Week article Yorkshire Mackem posted about 'changing the tenant mix' at the High Street West end of the Bridges off the back of Primark. Does this point to Tesco or Iceland (or both?) moving on? Certainly now the bus station's not in the centre, there's no real driver for them to stay where they are given they'd probably trade just as well in a less central location (say Blandford Street?)

I see from Graham Soult's blog that Boyes have opened in Bishop Auckland. The old Leveys/Ethel Austin shop would be a good location for them in Sunderland, or failing that, Primark's current site.

Could be, certainly feel that will this development those supermarket's may be more suitable in another location.

Would like to see a Waitrose in Sunderland. It is obviously an expensive shop, but it sells stuff that is hard to find elsewhere. Obviously this leads to a whole discussion on what shops would b useful to people shopping in Sunderland.

Welcome to the forum by the way, hope you will post on a regular basis, the more members the better!

br5968
November 18th, 2010, 01:36 AM
Could be, certainly feel that will this development those supermarket's may be more suitable in another location.

Absolutely - it opens up some of the bigger units up there to fashion use in the longer term - the Toymaster unit, Tescos and Iceland. Tesco has first floor trading space too - there used to be escalators up to a 'home and wear' section years ago. That could actually be a pretty big unit for a fashion retailer. Wonder if they might fancy moving on when the Extra opens at Roker - perhaps to somewhere nearer the Interchange. Def still a market for a town centre supermarket to serve students and pensioners.

Similarly, I think I'm right in saying that back in the days when Iceland was the Job Centre they had stairs up to a first floor level.

Still, we should count ourselves lucky we're down to two supermarkets in The Bridges - I still remember the two Prestos ;)

denm
November 18th, 2010, 11:08 AM
Absolutely - it opens up some of the bigger units up there to fashion use in the longer term - the Toymaster unit, Tescos and Iceland. Tesco has first floor trading space too - there used to be escalators up to a 'home and wear' section years ago. That could actually be a pretty big unit for a fashion retailer. Wonder if they might fancy moving on when the Extra opens at Roker - perhaps to somewhere nearer the Interchange. Def still a market for a town centre supermarket to serve students and pensioners.

Similarly, I think I'm right in saying that back in the days when Iceland was the Job Centre they had stairs up to a first floor level.

Still, we should count ourselves lucky we're down to two supermarkets in The Bridges - I still remember the two Prestos ;)





Regarding Tesco/Iceland moving, ---I agree, I think small supermarkets could be incorporated into new plans for the Holmeside Development area, --and preferably not too far from Park Lane, --btw, welcome to the Forum br 5968.

denm
November 18th, 2010, 04:32 PM
It seems like it would be a big development whichever site they develop.

It will be nice to shop at Asda in Boldon if both this site and the Roker site become supermarkets. Boldon is a nightmare at christmas. I believe the Asda in Boldon is one of the most lucrative stores in the country for Asda, it will be nice for it to have some competition - it's had no real competition since Emlyn Hughes opended the store in 1987.


We were at our Daughters (in Boldon) a few years ago , --it was on a Christmas Eve, ---when we went with her to Asda, ---well, --I have never seen anything like it, ---it was bedlam, --all the isles were clogged with trolleys, no one could move, --it was gridlocked, --some people were walking on top of trolleys to get through, ---we saw to fights break out, ---we were pleased to get out, ---I don't know what it is with folk when Christmas comes around, ---they seem to get a siege mentality,and have to stock up, ---I said then, --never again, ---now we get our shopping delivered.:)

architect1976
November 18th, 2010, 05:24 PM
We were at our Daughters (in Boldon) a few years ago , --it was on a Christmas Eve, ---when we went with her to Asda, ---well, --I have never seen anything like it, ---it was bedlam, --all the isles were clogged with trolleys, no one could move, --it was gridlocked, --some people were walking on top of trolleys to get through, ---we saw to fights break out, ---we were pleased to get out, ---I don't know what it is with folk when Christmas comes around, ---they seem to get a siege mentality,and have to stock up, ---I said then, --never again, ---now we get our shopping delivered.:)

I've never seen the point in it at all, they are only closed for two days. When I was a student I worked for Asda so I know when they are busy and when they are quiet, generally you have no bother the weekend before xmas as everyone is shopping for gifts, and then the last few days everyone hords food like a war has just broken out. The quietest time of the year is between xmas and new year as everyone is overstocked. It's great.

I might give the home delivery a go this year and avoid the whole damn thing.

Where does all the home delivery food come from? Will we start to see automated supermarket depot's springing up all over the country which only cater for home delivery?

JetStreak
November 18th, 2010, 07:30 PM
I've never seen the point in it at all, they are only closed for two days. When I was a student I worked for Asda so I know when they are busy and when they are quiet, generally you have no bother the weekend before xmas as everyone is shopping for gifts, and then the last few days everyone hords food like a war has just broken out. The quietest time of the year is between xmas and new year as everyone is overstocked. It's great.

I might give the home delivery a go this year and avoid the whole damn thing.

Where does all the home delivery food come from? Will we start to see automated supermarket depot's springing up all over the country which only cater for home delivery?
I think online orders tend to be fulfilled by the local supermarket. But I suspect this isn't very efficient once orders grow. Something like you suggest seems likely, a distribution centre around Durham on the A1 or A19 would seem suitable to serve Newcastle down to Middlesborough. Ocado seem to be doing well by just focussing on this model.

kingdom bhoy
November 19th, 2010, 08:37 AM
The Bridges was very busy last night with the Christmas lights switch on.

denm
November 19th, 2010, 12:13 PM
^^^^

Regarding deliveries, --not sure ---but I think if we get shopping from Tesco, ----I think it comes from their Team Valley warehouse, ----as for Asda, ---not sure if the order comes from one of their superstores, ----will ask the next time we get a delivery.

denm
November 19th, 2010, 12:18 PM
The Bridges was very busy last night with the Christmas lights switch on.


Aye, ---there was thousands turned out to see Darren Bent switch the lights on, ---there was a bit on the SSN last night.

horokeio
November 24th, 2010, 02:48 AM
Welcome to Sunderland:

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j73/xapbpoh/sunstationnov10.jpg


The monstrous TJ Hughes building is far worse than the station itself. From a distance it resembles something from Sellafield, up close it's got a terrifying Ministry of Truth vibe. That said, I really like Phoneix House.

horokeio
November 24th, 2010, 02:49 AM
I picked up the whole seven season box set of the West Wing on DVD for just £29.99 in Windows yesterday, absolute bargain. Think it was about £65 in HMV last Christmastime.

denm
November 24th, 2010, 12:52 PM
I picked up the whole seven season box set of the West Wing on DVD for just £29.99 in Windows yesterday, absolute bargain. Think it was about £65 in HMV last Christmastime.

Good prices those, ----is the shop doing well?

horokeio
November 26th, 2010, 01:20 AM
It was slightly quieter when I went in yesterday, but that was quite late on. I imagine it's doing well enough to stay open beyond Christmas, and hopefully move to a larger premises!

denm
November 26th, 2010, 05:17 PM
It was slightly quieter when I went in yesterday, but that was quite late on. I imagine it's doing well enough to stay open beyond Christmas, and hopefully move to a larger premises!


I was wondering if this was just temporary for Windows, ----hope they do well and get bigger premises, ---thanks.

Le Chuck
November 29th, 2010, 07:31 PM
The old Ethal Austin store on Blanford St is to be occupied by;

http://www.storetwentyone.co.uk/

Newcastle Historian
November 30th, 2010, 06:18 PM
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NB - A copy of the below article has also been posted on the "COUNTY DURHAM DEVELOPMENTS" thread, in the Communal Area of the NE Forum . . .

Tesco hopes new shop in Stanley, will make 400 jobs
November 30th 2010, by Neil McKay, Evening Chronicle

http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/nechronical/nov2010/2/7/an-artist-s-impression-of-the-new-store-expected-to-be-opened-in-2012-757494114.jpg

TESCO is planning a new store which they say will revamp a run-down town centre and create 400 new jobs.

Durham County Council planning officers were to have recommended members approve the plans for the store at Stanley today but the planning committee meeting was put back until next month due to the bad weather.

The Tesco Extra will be one of the first in a new generation of environmentally-friendly eco stores. As well as food, the supermarket will offer shoppers clothing, electrical goods, DVDs and CDs. It is hoped it will be open by mid-2012.

At a public exhibition this year, attended by hundreds of locals, more than 94% who filled in a questionnaire said they supported the proposal.

Councillors will be told that eleven residents objected to the development on the grounds of access and parking, but officers are to recommend “that the objectors were not considered sufficient to justify refusal of the application.”

Planning officers will advise council members that the new store “will enhance Stanley town centre by replacing an existing retail park which has a poor appearance with a large modern building which will enhance the appearance of the town centre and will draw people into the town centre. The scheme represents significant investment in Stanley which will widen retail choice and contribute to the regeneration of the area.”

North Durham MP Kevan Jones is also backing the scheme to revitalise the Clifford Road area of Stanley.

Mr Jones said: “I am confident that this development will be of great benefit to my constituents.”

To maximise use of the town centre site, the store will be on stilts with shoppers entering the store via travellators linking the ground floor car park to the store above. There will also be a cafe on a mezzanine floor.

Under and around the store there will be 550 car parking spaces, including 28 disabled and 24 parent and child.


Read More - http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/north-east-news/evening-chronicle-news/2010/11/30/tesco-hopes-new-shop-will-make-400-jobs-72703-27740910/#ixzz16mcCkjE1

denm
December 1st, 2010, 12:36 PM
^^^^

Think this is very good news for Stanley, --- 400 jobs has to be good for the area.

denm
December 1st, 2010, 04:06 PM
The old Ethal Austin store on Blanford St is to be occupied by;

http://www.storetwentyone.co.uk/


Store 21 took over Woolies in Houghton, ---they opened at the beginning of the year, ---seems this Company is expanding, --and has a couple of hundred Stores Nationwide, --- I'm pleased that the Blanford Street shop will be occupied though.

Le Chuck
December 4th, 2010, 11:05 AM
The shopping centre has signed deals with four new retailers, bringing the total of jobs created this year to 150.

The new contracts bring the total space let in the centre in 2010 to more than 66,800 sq ft,

Electrical giant Maplin has signed a 10-year deal and will begin trading in Sunderland this week in Market Square; while Model Zone, the high-street toys and miniature models store, has agreed a 10-year lease for a unit on Market Street Mall.

Popular retailer Past Times returns to the centre for the Christmas period, in a unit on Walworth Way North.

Budget retailer Poundworld will open its doors for the first time in Sunderland early next year after taking a store on Market Square Mall on a 10-year lease.

The new arrivals are not the only good news for the centre.

Fashion store USC has also renewed its commitment to the Bridges, by agreeing terms to remain in its existing store for a further five years.

And jeweller H Samuel has increased its floorspace by moving to a unit facing Walworth Way North and Walworth Way South.

Jonathan Buckle, Bridges portfolio manager at centre owner Land Securities, said: “These four new deals come quick off the back of JD and Bank opening, and follow in a long line of new retailers that we’ve introduced to the Bridges this year, such as Starbucks, Schuh, Pandora, Disney and Blue Inc.

“What’s more, we’re in a great position whereby retailers are renegotiating deals to ensure they remain within the centre, and upsizing because they’re beating trading expectations.

“Not only is consumer confidence evident in Sunderland, we’re confident and to demonstrate this we’re striving ahead with continuing asset management and our expansion plans to bring Primark within the centre to keep the retail offer fresh and relevant.”

Michael Fawley, of letting agents Fawley Watson Booth, added: “The Bridges attracted a footfall of more than 21million last year.

“On average, shoppers spend 61 minutes in the centre per visit and visit 71 times a year.

“Spend per visit on non-food related items has also increased by 20 per cent, from £33.35 in the previous year to £40.

“This clearly demonstrates the strong retailer mix is an attractive offer to customers, and a solid benefit to retailers also.”

http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/local/hello_to_new_model_tenants_1_2825599

Also the old JD store is to be occupied by
http://www.thediscoverystore.co.uk/

denm
December 7th, 2010, 10:54 AM
^^^^


Thats really good news marra, ---especially in today's economic climate, ----Seems though the Bridges are going from strength to strength, -----there can't be many vacant units left now, ---thanks for the information marra.

architect1976
December 7th, 2010, 11:35 AM
Might pop up and have look at Maplin's, been years since I've been in one.

denm
December 9th, 2010, 04:23 PM
Might pop up and have look at Maplin's, been years since I've been in one.


I've never been in a Maplins store, ---whats the prices like, --are they reasonable?

shiggy
January 4th, 2011, 01:59 PM
anyone know who has taken the former O'Brians unit on Elvet Bridge, Durham.

denm
January 5th, 2011, 11:05 AM
anyone know who has taken the former O'Brians unit on Elvet Bridge, Durham.


Haven't read or heard anything about this marra, ---but will keep a look out, --btw, good to have a new poster on board, keep posting, cheers.

horokeio
January 5th, 2011, 07:08 PM
I've never been in a Maplins store, ---whats the prices like, --are they reasonable?


I heard they had a reputation for being quite expensive, but when I called in at the weekend they had a fair amount of good deals, though I thought their range (for what I was looking for) was a bit limited.

Good to see Sunderland's new arrivals - Modelzone, Bank, Discovery, Windows - fairly busy throughout the festive period.

denm
January 7th, 2011, 10:56 AM
I heard they had a reputation for being quite expensive, but when I called in at the weekend they had a fair amount of good deals, though I thought their range (for what I was looking for) was a bit limited.

Good to see Sunderland's new arrivals - Modelzone, Bank, Discovery, Windows - fairly busy throughout the festive period.


Yeah we passed some of those units---and they did seem to be doing well, --which is good to see.

horokeio
January 10th, 2011, 04:00 PM
Some bad, though unexpected, reports which could mean uncertainty ahead for Wearside's retail sector:


Austerity-hit retailers widen north-south gap

The north-south retail divide is growing as chains scale back expansion into the north to concentrate on the more affluent and profitable south.

Jones Lang LaSalle, a comercial property agent, has just published a report on the retail industry which found that parts of the north will be hit hard. "Job uncertainty combined with the VAT rise and the post-Christmas curb in spending will all have an inevitable negative impact on purchasing power and consumer confidence, particularly in the north of England, resulting in lower retail sales," say the report's authors.

Retailers including America's Best Buy have recently pulled out of plans to open shops in the north amid fears that consumers there are being hit hardest by job losses and government cuts. Anecdotal evidence from retailers has shown the North-east and Northern Ireland are already hurting the most.

Full article: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/austerityhit-retailers-widen-northsouth-gap-2179578.html

denm
January 10th, 2011, 04:09 PM
Some bad, though unexpected, reports which could mean uncertainty ahead for Wearside's retail sector:


Austerity-hit retailers widen north-south gap

The north-south retail divide is growing as chains scale back expansion into the north to concentrate on the more affluent and profitable south.

Jones Lang LaSalle, a comercial property agent, has just published a report on the retail industry which found that parts of the north will be hit hard. "Job uncertainty combined with the VAT rise and the post-Christmas curb in spending will all have an inevitable negative impact on purchasing power and consumer confidence, particularly in the north of England, resulting in lower retail sales," say the report's authors.

Retailers including America's Best Buy have recently pulled out of plans to open shops in the north amid fears that consumers there are being hit hardest by job losses and government cuts. Anecdotal evidence from retailers has shown the North-east and Northern Ireland are already hurting the most.

Full article: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/austerityhit-retailers-widen-northsouth-gap-2179578.html


Not good news, ---but not suprised.

horokeio
January 15th, 2011, 01:18 AM
This isn't strictly the right place for this, but Castletown Netto has been sold to Morrisons for competition reasons. Netto stores at Roker, Pennywell and Ryhope are to become Asda stores after the supermarket's recent takeover of Netto.

In other news, Sainsburys has just overtaken Asda to regain its position as the UK's second-largest retailer.

JetStreak
January 19th, 2011, 08:04 PM
While browsing the planning applications on Durham CC website I noticed an application for the former Waitrose unit described as:

Erection and display of 4 no. non-illuminated individual lettered advertisements to west, east and north sides of existing shopping centre

The application is by Wilkinson Hardware Stores.

JetStreak
January 19th, 2011, 09:23 PM
I'm on a roll today, I've found another planning application for Durham. This time it's for a Starbucks in Bridge House just along from the Fighting Cocks.

I've also heard the unit in The Gates, next to Santander bank, selling homeware items is being kicked out to make way for a Mexican restaurant.

GrahamSoult
January 20th, 2011, 12:14 AM
While browsing the planning applications on Durham CC website I noticed an application for the former Waitrose unit described as:

Erection and display of 4 no. non-illuminated individual lettered advertisements to west, east and north sides of existing shopping centre

The application is by Wilkinson Hardware Stores.

Well spotted! Wilkinson opening there makes perfect sense really, now that Tesco (in the old Woolworths) has the Durham city centre grocery market wrapped up. Obviously a logical fit with the Gates' discount focus too.

JetStreak
January 20th, 2011, 11:46 PM
Well spotted! Wilkinson opening there makes perfect sense really, now that Tesco (in the old Woolworths) has the Durham city centre grocery market wrapped up. Obviously a logical fit with the Gates' discount focus too.

I was surprised when Wilkinsons didn't take over the Woolies unit, but in a way maybe it was for the best as it's a better fit for the Gates. Hopefully it'll help to revitalise that end of the shopping centre. Could even be worthy of a post on your blog perhaps.

I've checked the application again this evening and the associated documents have now been uploaded. There's internal signage as you would expect and the application is for the Waitrose signs to be replicated, i.e., same size and location, but with the Wilkinsons brand.

Details here: http://publicaccess.durhamcity.gov.uk/publicaccess/tdc/DcApplication/application_detailview.aspx?caseno=LF9ZY4BN02O00

GrahamSoult
January 21st, 2011, 12:00 AM
I was surprised when Wilkinsons didn't take over the Woolies unit, but in a way maybe it was for the best as it's a better fit for the Gates. Hopefully it'll help to revitalise that end of the shopping centre. Could even be worthy of a post on your blog perhaps.

As it happens I'm going to an event in Durham next week, so if I can get some fresh photos or retail-related things there may well be a blog in there somewhere!

After my last visit in 2009, I wrote about the empty Waitrose unit, if you haven't already read it: http://www.soultsretailview.co.uk/2009/10/07/durham-a-rare-blip-in-the-waitrose-success-story/

horokeio
January 21st, 2011, 02:58 AM
I'm still very disappointed, and suprised, that a business such as Waitrose chose the site they did.

If I may ask Graham, do you imagine, if Waitrose had been able to pick a prime spot in Durham, such as the old Woolworths unit, that they would still be open? Should a city like Durham be able to sustain a Waitrose store?

PaulWilson
January 21st, 2011, 03:39 PM
IMO, it was location that was Waitrose's downfall and this is shown by the delay in being able to find a replacement store in The Gates. Apparently, the majority of staff and resources moved from the Durham branch to the newly-opened site in Newcaslte which is in a much better spot and a city where it would have been much easier tohqve a successful store.
Durham city centre is mostly students and are therefore unlikely to shop at Waitrose (students likely to use Tesco Express just up the street). Those who would like to just do grocery are more likely to drive to Tesco at Dragonville or Sainsburys at Arnison. The car park under Waitrose, I imagine, would mostly be students or those wanting clothing shops such as New Look, Topshop and M&S for example.
Just my opinion but Durham City Centre wasn't a suitable location for a Waitrose store.

JetStreak
January 21st, 2011, 08:17 PM
If it had been where Tesco Metro is in the old Woolies unit it would have been able to print money I reckon. That place is always rammed and if you go in late in the day the shelves are bear.

GrahamSoult
January 22nd, 2011, 12:20 PM
If it had been where Tesco Metro is in the old Woolies unit it would have been able to print money I reckon. That place is always rammed and if you go in late in the day the shelves are bear.

I agree! I believe Waitrose could be successful in Durham, but the previous location in The Gates was entirely wrong.

A smaller convenience-type Waitrose store in the Market Place / Prince Bishops area might work well, like the city centre store that I saw in Leeds yesterday (probably about half the size of the Eldon Square Waitrose).

PaulWilson
January 23rd, 2011, 03:52 AM
The location for any retailer in The Gates is completly wrong and I believe the delay in finding a retailer to take over such a large space in a city centre shows this. Wilkinsons may be just the right retailer though. Over the past few years and even more so since Waitrose left, The Gates seems to be positioning itself as a 'cut price area' with stores such as Poundland, The X Catalouge etc. I think that Wilkinsons opening will have a knock on effect to Yorkshire Trading Co next door however as they sell pretty similar line. (Correct me if Yorkshire Trading is no longer there). As a value retailer, Wilkinsons should fit in well in that location.

JetStreak
January 23rd, 2011, 04:14 AM
The location for any retailer in The Gates is completly wrong and I believe the delay in finding a retailer to take over such a large space in a city centre shows this. Wilkinsons may be just the right retailer though. Over the past few years and even more so since Waitrose left, The Gates seems to be positioning itself as a 'cut price area' with stores such as Poundland, The X Catalouge etc. I think that Wilkinsons opening will have a knock on effect to Yorkshire Trading Co next door however as they sell pretty similar line. (Correct me if Yorkshire Trading is no longer there). As a value retailer, Wilkinsons should fit in well in that location.

Yorkshire Trading is still there and I entirely agree that they'll be going up against each other. You'd expect Wilkinsons to win out.

denm
January 23rd, 2011, 01:27 PM
^^^^


Aye, ---think Wilkinsons do well where ever they set up.

horokeio
January 25th, 2011, 06:24 PM
Thanks for the replies re Waitrose, all. They're apparently looking to double turnover by 2016 so I wonder if any other sites in the region are earmarked for a store in the next five years or so?

horokeio
January 25th, 2011, 06:26 PM
Today the proprietor of the excellent Sweet Home Alabama shop at Mackie's Corner voices his fears about the effect on trade of city centre roadworks. From the Echo:


Trouble in the pipeline for Sunderland shops

http://www.sunderlandecho.com/webimage/gasb24012011pbjo_1_2962119!image/435825219.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_595/435825219.jpg


A FED-UP sweet shop owner says ongoing gas works are bad for business.

Martin O’Neill, of Sweet Home Alabama in Sunderland city centre, first hit out when contractors for the Sunniside Partnership were slow to replace pavements outside his store last year.

So he was horrified to see work starting again at the junction between High Street West and Fawcett Street, this time as part of a programme to modernise gas pipes.

The pavement outside Sweet Home Alabama was ripped up in January last year as part of ongoing regeneration of the area.

But work ground to a halt while new paving stones were shipped 5,000 miles from China to Sunderland.

Martin was amazed when constructors working for Lumsden and Carroll told him what was causing the delay.


Full story here: http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/local/trouble_in_the_pipeline_for_sunderland_shops_1_2962122

kingdom bhoy
January 25th, 2011, 08:59 PM
You can see why MON is so frustrated its a crazy situation.

denm
January 26th, 2011, 12:06 PM
You can see why MON is so frustrated its a crazy situation.

Those works seem to have been ongoing for some time now like.

GrahamSoult
January 26th, 2011, 12:15 PM
Thanks for the replies re Waitrose, all. They're apparently looking to double turnover by 2016 so I wonder if any other sites in the region are earmarked for a store in the next five years or so?

Jesmond (convenience store) is supposed to be opening this year, while Newcastle Great Park and Morpeth have both been mentioned as rumoured locations (http://www.journallive.co.uk/north-east-news/todays-news/2008/10/22/new-store-keen-on-town-61634-22088094/).

At some point, it's reasonable to expect that Waitrose will re-enter County Durham, and there's probably scope for one in an upmarket Teesside location (Yarm?) as well.

PaulWilson
January 26th, 2011, 07:04 PM
Bridges Extension Approved

"Planning permission's been given for a £15m extension of The Bridges shopping centre in Sunderland. The expansion plans mean a new Primary for the city centre, built on an extension in High Street West.

Andy Bradley, centre director for the Bridges, says:
“This is great news for shoppers.We have been working hand in hand with Sunderland City Council to ensure we brought the best plan to the table and it is fantastic that the green light has been given to our £15million expansion.”

Full article at http://www.metroradio.co.uk/Article.asp?id=2092537&spid=25620

Looks like Sunderland will be getting a new Primark after all

denm
January 27th, 2011, 12:39 PM
Bridges Extension Approved

"Planning permission's been given for a £15m extension of The Bridges shopping centre in Sunderland. The expansion plans mean a new Primary for the city centre, built on an extension in High Street West.

Andy Bradley, centre director for the Bridges, says:
“This is great news for shoppers.We have been working hand in hand with Sunderland City Council to ensure we brought the best plan to the table and it is fantastic that the green light has been given to our £15million expansion.”

Full article at http://www.metroradio.co.uk/Article.asp?id=2092537&spid=25620

Looks like Sunderland will be getting a new Primark after all


This is very good news, --cheers marra.

GrahamSoult
January 27th, 2011, 06:22 PM
This is very good news, --cheers marra.

It will be interesting to see who takes over the current Primark site (previously Woolworths), as it's a pretty big store.

PaulWilson
January 27th, 2011, 07:36 PM
It will be interesting to see who takes over the current Primark site (previously Woolworths), as it's a pretty big store.

I was thinking that too, Sunderland has most of the shops that would fill a store of that, possibly a relocation of a store from elsewhere in the city maybe?

GrahamSoult
January 27th, 2011, 07:51 PM
I was thinking that too, Sunderland has most of the shops that would fill a store of that, possibly a relocation of a store from elsewhere in the city maybe?

http://www.soultsretailview.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/tj_hughes_sunderland_graham_soult.jpg

The present TJ Hughes (above) is very cramped, so that would be a possible (and logical) relocator. It would also fit with Wilkinson (i.e. another discount retailer) being nearby.

Beyond that, it's pretty hard to think of any major retailers - new to the city or not - who might want a large store in that location.

Maybe a supersized Poundland, like in Scarborough's old Woolies (http://www.soultsretailview.co.uk/2010/11/18/whats-become-of-north-yorkshires-former-woolies/)? :carrot:

horokeio
January 27th, 2011, 09:05 PM
Would the Primark site not be of interest to a supermarket such as Tesco or Iceland, as I understand it's Land Securities' strategy to ease the supermarkets out of the Bridges? If TJ Hughes took it (which I think is very unlikely), that would clear the way for the worst building in the city centre to be blown up.

GrahamSoult
January 27th, 2011, 09:34 PM
If TJ Hughes took it (which I think is very unlikely), that would clear the way for the worst building in the city centre to be blown up.

That would be a bonus! It is a very unattractive building. What was in there before TJ Hughes? Was it Littlewoods or something?

horokeio
January 27th, 2011, 10:01 PM
That would be a bonus! It is a very unattractive building. What was in there before TJ Hughes? Was it Littlewoods or something?

It was indeed - for as long as I can remember. There was an Index catalogue section at the back as well. Older posters might know more about which, if any, tenants occupied it prior to Littlewoods.

denm
January 28th, 2011, 12:51 PM
It was indeed - for as long as I can remember. There was an Index catalogue section at the back as well. Older posters might know more about which, if any, tenants occupied it prior to Littlewoods.


The original Buildings that stood on that site was the North End of Sunderland Railway Station, ---it was Demolished, --and Built over, --think early 60s, ---will have to check though.

Le Chuck
February 2nd, 2011, 11:33 PM
Walking through town yesterday it was nice to see the sparkling new JD and Bank units, with boards up at the old Barratts shop (H Samuel and Shakeaholic), and at the new Modelzone and Maplins stores. I was disappointed by Windows - although very welcome, it's clear it was a last minute arrangement to shift some CDs and DVDs in the run-up to Christmas, albeit one that might blossom into them taking a larger unit and stocking the kinds of things for which the Central Arcade shop is renowned.

To pick up on a general point made by YM about floor space and the shortage of larger floor plates in Sunderland deterring desirable retailers from committing to the city, why have Land Securities chopped so many larger Bridges stores in half? First there was the old Internacionale/Post Office unit, then the old Dorothy Perkins/MK One, now Barratts. I presume money is the answer, but it seems very short sighted if what YM has said is the case?

Has started selling guitars