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December 13th, 2009, 07:07 PM

from Hull Daily Mail

Council's pledge to extend KC if 2018 World Cup venue bid succeeds

Saturday, December 12, 2009, 06:30

A firm pledge has been made to increase the capacity of the KC Stadium if the Hull's ambitious bid to host matches in the 2018 football World Cup succeeds.

Officials behind the bid believe the commitment to add up to 20,000 seats to the stadium could clinch Hull's place as a host city.

Around 10,000 seats would be temporary, leaving the stadium with an increased permanent capacity of 35,000.

Such a move would also boost Hull City's chances of competing in top-flight football, with extra revenue coming through the turnstiles.

The council-owned KC is currently one of the smallest grounds in the Premier League, with only Wigan, Burnley and Portsmouth playing in smaller stadia.

As the Football Association prepares to announce the successful bidders on Wednesday, city council leader Councillor Carl Minns said the promise to extend the KC Stadium was an important step.

"The commitment is there from the council, the Stadium Management Company (SMC), Hull City and Hull FC.

"If we get to the next stage, work will start on exploring the funding options open to us to make it happen.

"It's no secret that because the way public finances are going it's unlikely that the council will be able to foot the bill on its own.

"That's why we need to look at every possible funding route. For me, the ultimate solution will have to be right for the taxpayer, right for Hull City and right for Hull FC because they are the two main tenants of the stadium."

Hull is competing against 14 other cities and the FA is expected to nominate 16 stadiums as part of England's bid to be the host country for world football's most prestigious competition in 2018.

Portsmouth recently pulled out of the race after the local council expressed concerns over financial guarantees required from chosen host cities.

Cllr Minns added: "I am not in the business of talking down other cities but outside of London and Manchester I can't see any other bid that is better than ours.

"Each bid has its positives and negatives but when I look at what has happened in Portsmouth I feel quite confident we are very well placed. Some of the other cities haven't even got a stadium built."

Hull City and SMC chairman Adam Pearson said the pledge to re-develop the KC Stadium was a trump card in Hull's bid.

"Having the council fully onboard is a tremendous advantage," he said.

"The stadium's original design included space to increase its 25,404 capacity without too much disruption.

"The foresight of the council made the stadium happen in the first place and I'm certain this latest commitment from the council will take things to a new level," he added.

Mr Pearson said Hull City's long-term financial fortunes also hinged on increasing the stadium's capacity.

"Clearly, it would allow the club to grow and compete on a level playing field with the more established Premier League sides," he added.

Meanwhile, football fans in East Yorkshire are being urged to text their support for Hull's bid to the FA website before the deadline tomorrow night.

Janet Reuben, chief executive of Visit Hull and East Yorkshire, said: "This is our last chance to persuade the FA that our city should be a part of the 2018 World Cup, and we need everyone's help to make it happen.

"Just wanting it isn't enough we need to prove that the people of Hull are ready for the World Cup.

" It is vital that our bid has as much support as possible so grab your phones and text 'Hull' to 62018 now!"

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"not in business of talking down other cities BUT" -ha ha ha gotta luv Minns subtle isnt in it!

Dazzar86

December 16th, 2009, 05:13 PM

Failed bid!

F**king disgraceful!!!!

PLYMOUTH!??

Bristol don't even have a stadium!

Nor do Nottingham, who's council has refused to fund it!

and last of all.... MILTON KEYNES!!!! f**k off FA! if it wasn't a man from Hull, you wouldn't even exist!

Pippin0490

December 16th, 2009, 05:34 PM

Birmingham – Villa Park;
Bristol – New Ashton Vale Stadium;
Leeds – Elland Road;
Liverpool – Anfield or New Anfield;
London – Wembley;
London – Emirates Stadium;
London – New White Hart Lane or Olympic Stadium;
Manchester – City of Manchester Stadium;
Manchester – Old Trafford;
Milton Keynes – Stadium MK;
Newcastle – St James' Park;
Nottingham – New stadium;
Plymouth – Home Park;
Sheffield – Hillsborough;
Sunderland – Stadium of Light

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Newcastle AND Sunderland?
Nottingham, Sheffield AND Leeds?
Plymouth?
MILTON KEYNES?

Milton Keynes being so close to London aswell. Makes even less sense.

So all these over places will get shit load of government money and we're left out in the cold YET AGAIN!
If we can't get a bloody football game given how we really should of easily been on that list given geography, transport, excisting sport, improvements already done, underway or planned, how on earth will we get to be the capital of culture?

Now i really really hope Australia get the world cup

pug

December 16th, 2009, 05:35 PM

No need for city bashing! Its blatantly obvious why Hull didnt get it, were in a crap location. Thats it!

Kingston Upon Hull

December 16th, 2009, 05:37 PM

legolamb

December 16th, 2009, 05:40 PM

Pug. That is bollocks. I don't know why the citys bid was unsuccessful but I look forward to hearing the fa's explanation.

Gutted.

At least we can really go all out for capital of culture.

Dazzar86

December 16th, 2009, 05:41 PM

Mawhinney or whatever his name is, talks soo much bs!

"Plenty of geographical spread" Er, 3 stadia in London, Milton Keynes nearby, Sunderland and Newcastle are next to each other, Bristol and Plymouth near each other... all the rest are staright down the middle of the country - Sheffield, Leeds, Manchester & Nottingham - Soo much spread between them cities!

PLYMOUTH!?? 15k stadium!

Mawhinney says Plymouth was chosen for regeneration purposes, er... so why not Hull!??

I hope the majority of stadia they've chosen has problems with funding and the FA are left with egg on their faces!

Kingston Upon Hull

December 16th, 2009, 05:41 PM

No need for city bashing! Its blatantly obvious why Hull didnt get it, were in a crap location. Thats it!

I agree it's not a good location nearest major airport is much closer to Sheffield and Leeds and Hull isn't particulary multi cultural either and without sound critical the City centre at night is usually very quite and empty not like Leeds and Sheffield.

Kingston Upon Hull

December 16th, 2009, 05:44 PM

pug

December 16th, 2009, 05:52 PM

Pug. That is bollocks. I don't know why the citys bid was unsuccessful but I look forward to hearing the fa's explanation.

Why would you choose Hull over Sheffield or Leeds if you were marketing the bid to the world, dont forget England has not won that one yet! They've got to get the best possible offering in place and Hulls location is nothing short of inconveniant so no, its certainly not 'bollocks'.

Ive seen what Hull can successfuly put on (Clippers etc) but that is playing to its strengths, hosting international sporting events that dont involve water is a non starter. I wanted to be proved wrong today but it hasnt happened.

Theres no point in being blinkered, the lack of facilities is no excuse as the council and Yorkshire backwards have put 100% into it and would have made sure investment was made if we had been successful!

Chris (Newcastle)

December 16th, 2009, 06:25 PM

I don't think we can be ashamed. The stadium, city are as good as they could possibly been - as good as Bristol's and better than MK and Plymouth's. At the end of the day it was geography that went against us - 3 Yorkshire bids going into 2 and Leeds and Sheffield are just big cities with footballing history. It was as strong a bid as possible and that's the best you can do. Nobody would have believed Hull would be bidding for the world cup just 5 years ago.

Well done everyone involved.

Dazzar86

December 16th, 2009, 06:37 PM

Why would you choose Hull over Sheffield or Leeds if you were marketing the bid to the world, dont forget England has not won that one yet! They've got to get the best possible offering in place and Hulls location is nothing short of inconveniant so no, its certainly not 'bollocks'.

If I was Dutch, Belgian, Danish, German e.t.c. coming over to watch my country, I'd beg to differ.

Like you said, England hasn't won the bid and has to market the bid to Fifa, so why pick Leeds and Sheffield ahead of Hull? 2 dilapidated old stadiums.

Bushy_Badger

December 16th, 2009, 06:39 PM

I think really sad for the City of Hull and a kick in the teeth but leeds and Sheffield where always going to beat Hull as a world cup city.

I don't think it has helped the size of the stadium which is extremly small 25,000 (i know there is plans to expand it if you'd have won the bid but.) i think if the stadium had a capacity of around 35,000- 40,0000 and sold out every other week since you've been in the prem you may have beaten Sheffield may but outside of the City, Hull is still classed as a Rugby League City.

I'm gutted for you though.

So gutted about this but I think deep down most of us expected this as others from outside the city would never be too bothered about a bid from Hull. Sheffield was always going to be favoured over Hull and Leeds could probably cope better currently but their ground is an utter dump.

Plymouth clearly got the regeneration vote which maybe we was hoping for.

Another kick in the teeth for this city, I would like to hear more from the FA but I am sure it will be the usual crap that comes from them. And for once I agree with Darren, Milton Keynes, for fook sake.

pug

December 16th, 2009, 06:43 PM

If I was Dutch, Belgian, Danish, German e.t.c. coming over to watch my country, I'd beg to differ.

Like you said, England hasn't won the bid and has to market the bid to Fifa, so why pick Leeds and Sheffield ahead of Hull? 2 dilapidated old stadiums.

Because Leeds and Sheffield are far more prominent on the international scene and as has been mentioned, they both have a big history of football.

The stadiums will be given a lick of paint and wil be able to cater for the demand.

How do you know that the Dutch, Belgians, Danish or Germans would be coming to Hull as opposed to any of the other host cities? I suspect many would fly too, far more conveniant to get to Sheffield and Leeds by air than to Hull (except with KLM to Humberside). Other cities are far more flexible due to better connections such as major airports etc.

It is clearly nothing but location and perhaps status (though with MK being involved the latter is debatable)

Pippin0490

December 16th, 2009, 06:57 PM

return ferry to/from hull = £71 for two people. So yeah i recon it would of been more popular in the continent

pug

December 16th, 2009, 07:49 PM

return ferry to/from hull = £71 for two people

Try getting that price during the summer. Anyway that is not the point, point is strategicaly Hull just doesnt fit.

The bid team were told that training facilities and bed availability were problesm but im sure they would have been overcome had Hull been approved.

It can be nothing more than a crap location in relation to the rest of the country.

Pippin0490

December 16th, 2009, 08:22 PM

Try getting that price during the summer. Anyway that is not the point, point is strategicaly Hull just doesnt fit.

The bid team were told that training facilities and bed availability were problesm but im sure they would have been overcome had Hull been approved.

It can be nothing more than a crap location in relation to the rest of the country.

It's no worse than Plymouth, probabaly better.

Oh and i went to Belgium this summer for the aforementioned price:colgate:

pug

December 16th, 2009, 08:47 PM

It's no worse than Plymouth, probabaly better.

I fully believe it was a toss up between Plymouth and Hull, Plymouth winning due to its location away from other bid cities, that will be all. Our competition was way too fierce up north and i completely understand why the chose Leeds and Sheffield over Hull. Anyone who dont just seem to be burying their heads in the sand, we have a long way to go as a city before we gain better perceptions nationaly.

Pippin0490

December 17th, 2009, 08:58 AM

I fully believe it was a toss up between Plymouth and Hull, Plymouth winning due to its location away from other bid cities, that will be all. Our competition was way too fierce up north and i completely understand why the chose Leeds and Sheffield over Hull. Anyone who dont just seem to be burying their heads in the sand, we have a long way to go as a city before we gain better perceptions nationaly.

still a shame as it would of made sure plans were to happen over the next few years.

We'll just continue going, after all each year the city continues to improve:)

Wagg

December 17th, 2009, 01:35 PM

I wouldn't totally rule out Hull getting a place just yet. My feeling is that many of the other city's councils will pull the plug on building and redeveloping stadia long before 2018.

bigchrisfgb

December 17th, 2009, 01:39 PM

I dn't know if Hull will lose out as alot of you say on here. Alot of people coming over by the ferry are going to be going to Leeds and Sheffield, and maybe dispurse around the country, so alot of fans when they get off the ferry will be going somwhere nearby to have a relax or get something to eat for less then it would ocst on the ferry, so Hull will see benifits like that well. Also on the return alot of fans will be trying to get rid of spare change, some maybe be getting little things while they kill time waiting for a ferry. Also other fans may stay overnight in Hull, either after along journey on the ferry, then continuning the journey the next day, and some maybe doing it vica-versa, meaning that hotels in Hull should also feel a positive impact.

Kingston Upon Hull

December 17th, 2009, 02:44 PM

And let's not forget England haven't won the bid yet and from what i hear i don't think England will get it to be honest and even if they did a lot can happen in 8 years.

If your stadium expansion is reliant purely on that bid i think your club need to look again 25,000 in the Premiership is poor and if you do establish yourselves as a Prem club you need at least 35,000 seater stadium would you fill it though? aside from the obvious 4-5 games?

Kingston Upon Hull

December 17th, 2009, 02:47 PM

luckily you have a chirman who realises the importance of having Under 21 games there and Rugby test matches plus large concerts not like your previous chairman who seemed not interested in these things.

The fact he turned down the chance of holding a test match against either Austrailia/New Zealand was criminal in a City with 2 Super League sides.

legolamb

December 17th, 2009, 11:42 PM

would you fill it though?

35,000 would not be adequate based on attendances during brief spells of relative success in the clubs past in lower leagues.

Wagg

December 18th, 2009, 09:42 AM

ChrisG (Hull)

December 18th, 2009, 10:44 AM

Remember that the cities that have so far been successful are only getting onto a shortlist to be announced in 2013 (if England get it) I think there will be only 8-10 venues. There are going to be alot of councils who will spend big between now and then only to loose out. So Hull not getting through might be a blessing.

I'm at gutted as any one else, but what I would like to see is a commitment to fill those gaps what the FA comittee highlight. As yet I don't think we exactly know their reasons, but hotels and transport infrastructure seem to be at the top of the list.
That way when the culture bid comes rounf we may be beter placed, and then for any future events too.

ChrisG (Hull)

December 18th, 2009, 10:55 AM

I've just had an idea- why does the FA not sending world cup football to Hull have to end our involvement?

Ok apart from the 23-40k people in and around the city for the actual game, surely there is still scope for these 'fan parks' and so on? I understand these parks are to watch the game - so are aimed an non ticket holders. Obviously there'd be no funding from FA as it wasn't 'official' but we can't ignore that there will probably be alot of people passing through Hull, or staying here before heading into Leeds and Sheffield.

Stuff the FA - lets show anyone who passes that we can throw a bash with or without their support?:banana:

Dazzar86

December 18th, 2009, 02:13 PM

Kingston Upon Hull

December 18th, 2009, 04:01 PM

Why is your name 'Kingston-Upon-Hull' yet you talk as though you have nothing to do with the city i.e. saying you/your, rather than we/our?

Sure that must quite confusing.

I'm from brighton i have a contract for media company in Hull for 3 years only being here since June.

Chris (Newcastle)

December 18th, 2009, 07:05 PM

I'm at gutted as any one else, but what I would like to see is a commitment to fill those gaps what the FA comittee highlight. As yet I don't think we exactly know their reasons, but hotels and transport infrastructure seem to be at the top of the list.
That way when the culture bid comes rounf we may be beter placed, and then for any future events too.

I think the stadium and extension is excellent - very similar to one in Leipzig used in the Germany world cup.

Hull does lack accomodation 4 and 5 star hotels which could be a top criteria for pampered FIFA officials and media types. We know there are several planned.

Dazzar86

December 18th, 2009, 07:12 PM

Lord Mawhinney is a complete and utter idiot, if you ask me.

I think he's put England's bid to host the World Cup in 2018 in a worse position than it was with this announcement.

He stated he was asked to pick stadia by FIFA, which would cause the least risk to the tournament going ahead... so what does Mawhinney do? picks the 6 biggest risks of them all!

including having to convert a 15,000 seater stadium in Plymouth which currently attracts 9,000 to games, into a 45,000 seater stadium.

A Nottingham stadium to be built which the council have said they WILL NOT fund and WILL NOT give planning permission to.

A Bristol stadium which is yet to get funding and is apparently £40 million away from gaining it.

Either a Liverpool stadium looking unlikely to be built or an Anfield which is looking past it's sell-by-date already. Imagine it in 8 years time!

Same can be said for Elland Rd in Leeds - no money for upgrades, in a worse state than Anfield is and in a grotty area of the city. Plus, the Leeds commitee even told Mawhinney & co that they WILL NOT start preparations for 2018 until England have been awarded the World Cup, next year.

Olympic Stadium or New White Hart Lane - Well, plans haven't even been submitted for new WHL - it's all just talk, may not even happen!
Olympic Satdium will have a running track, something I believe FIFA do not like at World Cup stadiums, as well as the Olympic Stadium is meant to be downgraded to 23,000 after the olympics!

Stadium: MK? Milton Keynes the hotbed of football. a current 22,000 seater, which currently gets attendances of 10,000 to games, expected to be 45,000 after the World Cup!??

Let's look in contrast - The KC Stadium;
25,000 seater, new-ish stadium, in parkland setting, planning permission and foundations in place to expand, council agreement to fund the expansion agreed, expansion to 33,000 seater upto 44,000 with temporary seating for the World Cup. Currently getting just under 25,000 attendances, mainly due to away support not selling out - expansion to 33,000 would work AFTER the World Cup too, posing less of a risk.

Not only this, but Mawhinney has contradicted himself on soo many levels!

Geographical spread.

He said he wanted as much geographical spread as possible, so what does he do?

Well, Newcastle and Sunderland are barely apart from each other. He picks 3 grounds in London (all of which are in North London), then he picks Milton Keynes - 35 miles from North London, Birmingham -to- Nottingham (51 miles apart), Nottingham-to-Sheffield (40 miles apart), Sheffield-to-Manchester (38 miles apart), Manchester-to-Leeds (40 miles).

Geographical spread, what a lie! He should have called it Geographical cluster.

Another contradiction:
He said he picked Liverpool because it is a historic footballing city. So why pick Milton Keynes? it only has a football team because it 'stole' one!

A man from Hull invented the rules of football and co-founded the FA, does that not make Hull historic in the world of football? does over 100 years of Hull City's history not mean anything? does the first ever penalty shoot-out in England taking place in Hull not make it historic in the world of football?

He was asked to explain his reasons for picking Milton Keynes, he said they were inspired by how far they have come in the last 5 years - erm, well what about how far Hull City have come in that time, or how about only 8 years ago the team were in the bottom division to now be in the top division! MK:Dons started out in League One (because they stole the place of Wimbledon AFC), and are still in League One, not very far in 5 years I'd say!

He was asked to explain Plymouth's inclusion - he said it was for 'regeneration purposes'. Erm, excuse me, what about Hull then? Everyone knows Hull is currently undergoing a phase of regeneration, a lot of which is being jeapordised by the recession. Plymouth is seen as one of those places that was bombed a lot during WW2 and hasn't been given much money in order to rebuild itself - for some reason, this is totally lost when it comes to Hull. Hull was bombed more, left to rebuild itself, then left for the scrappers when the government wouldn't help during the cod wars, resulting in many losing their main source of income in the area, which to this day is probably one of the biggest reasons for Hull's main problems, as everything has a knock-on effect.

Transport?

Look North said they seemed to believe Lord Mawhinney didn't think Hull's transport links were good enough.

Erm, Milton Keynes doesn't have an airport or a large port and only has the M1 to connect it to the rest of the country. Plymouth only has a tiny airport and the M5 is the nearest motorway, which stops miles away from it.

Hull has the M18, M62 and Humber Bridge to connect it to the rest of the country by road, a large port serving Holland and Belgium and Humberside airport a 10/15 min drive from Hull City Centre. Not only this, but Hull has a brilliant and successful Park N' Ride system on a matchday.

Hotels?

A quick google maps search shows Hull has easily as many hotels, if not more than Plymouth and Milton Keynes and was also going to use floating hotels on the Humber and also provided an option of using hotels in Beverley and York. Plus, recent plans for Copthorne, Hilton and Travelodge to build hotels in the city in the coming years.

Personally I think this idiot and his merry men haven't even bothered taking any notice of the bids - they've simply just picked the same venues as Euro96 and added ones they were most chummy with - Mawhinney even commented as if he was best buddies with Peter Winkelman (Milton Keynes) and Niall Quinn (Sunderland).

The Hull Daily Mail is correct in saying we were ROBBED!

It's all politics and favouritisms - a guy who was once a major part of the Conservative party was NEVER going to opt for Kingston-Upon-Hull - a city which shuns the toffs.

Though being a deeply religious man, I'm surprised he didn't opt for the city which has the largest church in England and Beverley minster nearby - though this fool probably didn't even know that!

Conspiracy theory:

What's the betting we'll see upturns in the fortunes of those who have been picked to host games? Plymouth, MK:Dons, Leeds, Sheff Weds, Bristol City - all in the Prem by 2018? Most likely, the FA won't want the egg on their faces of being left with white elephants.

Dazzar86

December 18th, 2009, 10:20 PM

Mawhinney a former Conservative Party big-wig MP:

A glance at political contests in both Plymouth and Milton Keynes constituencies are very surprising...

all either conservative hotspots or constituencies were Conservatives came a very close second!

HMM!

...as I said, they've just picked the Euro96 venues, plus added venues through pally alliances.

Riverboy

December 19th, 2009, 12:46 PM

Dazzar86

December 19th, 2009, 01:01 PM

Riverboy

December 19th, 2009, 01:21 PM

How is it embarrassing?

It's something I feel strongly about - a lot of people spent a lot of time on this bid and that blithering idiot Mawhinney didn't spend 2 seconds thought on the Hull bid, I'd imagine.

When you put all the facts together, we should have been chosen. The Hull bid was probably one of the top 5 least risky - of which was what Fifa asked of the FA to pick. Like I said, I think England's bid may very well falter because of this daft Northern-Irishman.

When 'people in the know' knew Milton Keynes had been picked 3 days before the announcement, before the FA had seen the other cities presentations, doesn't that smell of something fishy to you?

I've also posted the above on football forums;
http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=297&fid=148&sty=2&act=1&mid=2123560368

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A60916340

They don't think it's embarrassing, the majority think I have a valid point.

So, the myth is Hull mainly lost out because of hotels - so which are easier to come by, new hotels or a new football stadium!??

If I can be bothered to find the time I shall point out the flaw in pretty much every point you make. Other than Milton Keynes, and possibly Sunderland (which I don't believe will be used eventually) I would suggest that all of the other cities would be a better option than our own, that is not being negative, it is just being realistic about the existing facilities and the probability that the required extra facilities could be put together in time.

legolamb

December 19th, 2009, 03:02 PM

Without getting all Scouse about this, there have definitely been flaws and contradictions in the reasons given behind the decision making process.

If people don't attempt to get to the bottom of why the bid failed, then there is no chance of the city learning from the process.

It's a discussion forum, and I feel Daz has every right to vent his spleen and have people debate with him in a reasoned manner, provided they can be bothered to find the time, of course.

Personally, I think there are conceivable reasons why Hull didn't make the cut, obviously. However, this is to miss the point that virtually every other city's bid had equal, or in certain cases, bigger glaring unresolved problems. So what exactly was the criteria?

The initial assumption is naturally to blame the fact that Hull, Leicester and Derby are not seen as fit to represent this country on the world stage, but on the other hand do not require the regenerative legacy that - as has been stated - the bid team are looking to achieve.

This does not make sense, and leaves us with the sense that the committee have a different agenda entirely to the one they have presented to the public. Whichever way you cut it, that is unjust.

Riverboy

December 19th, 2009, 05:50 PM

Go on then...

He stated he was asked to pick stadia by FIFA, which would cause the least risk to the tournament going ahead... so what does Mawhinney do? picks the 6 biggest risks of them all!

If we were to get the world cup, funding for any of the proposed stadia would not be in doubt. The quality of the proposed stadia is far in advance of what would be achieved with an extension to our own (possibly excluding Bristol's). Having said that, with probably the exception of Old Trafford, Wembley and the Emirates I believe that all of the existing options need a hell of a lot of work to bring them close to the standard offered by the Japan/South Korea or German world cups and even some of the Polish stadia that are popping up for the 2012 Euros.

Although we've had assurances from our council regarding funding, those on this forum are all too aware of the track record of delivering.

including having to convert a 15,000 seater stadium in Plymouth which currently attracts 9,000 to games, into a 45,000 seater stadium.

People would have said the same regarding City, they have the potential to get crowds of a similar size to us. Traffic issues aside, the stadium is in a fantastic parkland setting (the KC is not the only one with this feature despite being advertised as such when opened). Plymouth is a far better tourist destination, the Barbican and Hoe are very saleable to outsiders. Although it does still have some shitty areas, the last time I was down Union St it was very much like our 'new town' area.

A Nottingham stadium to be built which the council have said they WILL NOT fund and WILL NOT give planning permission to.

The only information I saw regarding this was a squabble between two of the council leaders, I've not seen anything concrete of what you're talking about here. The plans of the new Nottingham stadium look fantastic, and is being sold on it's 'greenness' which cannot be overlooked with the way people are acting at the moment.

A Bristol stadium which is yet to get funding and is apparently £40 million away from gaining it.

Whilst I'm not overexcited by it's appearance (I think it looks like a bigger version of a nice league one ground). It's in an important location though if we are looking at spreading it over the country (Plymouth is actually quite some distance if you've ever done the drive yourself), not to mention Wales on the doorstep (well maybe not to see their own team...).

Either a Liverpool stadium looking unlikely to be built or an Anfield which is looking past it's sell-by-date already. Imagine it in 8 years time!

If the new stadium in Stanley Park wouldn't be ready in time, the necessary money would certainly be found to tart up Anfield the required amount. A world cup in England would definitely need games in Liverpool, tradition and history dictate it, the money would be found, no doubt about it.

Same can be said for Elland Rd in Leeds - no money for upgrades, in a worse state than Anfield is and in a grotty area of the city. Plus, the Leeds commitee even told Mawhinney & co that they WILL NOT start preparations for 2018 until England have been awarded the World Cup, next year.

Elland Road is now a right dump and no mistake, the facilities and catchment area of the city however make it a perfectly logical place to have a game. 8 years is plenty enough to pull it down or do the work.

Olympic Stadium or New White Hart Lane - Well, plans haven't even been submitted for new WHL - it's all just talk, may not even happen!
Olympic Satdium will have a running track, something I believe FIFA do not like at World Cup stadiums, as well as the Olympic Stadium is meant to be downgraded to 23,000 after the olympics!

My jaw hit the ground when I saw the plans for the new White Hart Lane, it looks spectacular, it is much more than just talk and if this means it will now happen then it is certainly one benefit to us getting the World Cup.

Stadium: MK? Milton Keynes the hotbed of football. a current 22,000 seater, which currently gets attendances of 10,000 to games, expected to be 45,000 after the World Cup!??

Milton Keynes can fuck off.

Let's look in contrast - The KC Stadium;
25,000 seater, new-ish stadium, in parkland setting, planning permission and foundations in place to expand, council agreement to fund the expansion agreed, expansion to 33,000 seater upto 44,000 with temporary seating for the World Cup. Currently getting just under 25,000 attendances, mainly due to away support not selling out - expansion to 33,000 would work AFTER the World Cup too, posing less of a risk.

The Stadium needs more than just the extra seats, from the outside it is just plain ugly. If we are talking about a legacy of new stadia etc, is an extra 8k seats on our stadium really a comparison to a new stadium elsewhere?

Geographical spread.

Well, Newcastle and Sunderland are barely apart from each other. He picks 3 grounds in London (all of which are in North London), then he picks Milton Keynes - 35 miles from North London, Birmingham -to- Nottingham (51 miles apart), Nottingham-to-Sheffield (40 miles apart), Sheffield-to-Manchester (38 miles apart), Manchester-to-Leeds (40 miles).

This is a shortlist, not all of these stadiums and cities will be used.

Another contradiction:
He said he picked Liverpool because it is a historic footballing city. So why pick Milton Keynes? it only has a football team because it 'stole' one!

A man from Hull invented the rules of football and co-founded the FA, does that not make Hull historic in the world of football? does over 100 years of Hull City's history not mean anything? does the first ever penalty shoot-out in England taking place in Hull not make it historic in the world of football?

As I said earlier, MK has no right to be involved, but our history as a reason for a world cup game? Tenuous at best.

He was asked to explain Plymouth's inclusion - he said it was for 'regeneration purposes'. Erm, excuse me, what about Hull then? Everyone knows Hull is currently undergoing a phase of regeneration, a lot of which is being jeapordised by the recession. Plymouth is seen as one of those places that was bombed a lot during WW2 and hasn't been given much money in order to rebuild itself - for some reason, this is totally lost when it comes to Hull. Hull was bombed more, left to rebuild itself, then left for the scrappers when the government wouldn't help during the cod wars, resulting in many losing their main source of income in the area, which to this day is probably one of the biggest reasons for Hull's main problems, as everything has a knock-on effect.

Would this kickstart further regeneration, the KC stadium has hardly been the beacon for the Anlaby Road area has it? Perhaps if we'd helped ourselves by doing a little bit to show we are capable of using this as a catalyst for better things then maybe, however all we have are a succession of stalled and failed schemes.

Transport?

Look North said they seemed to believe Lord Mawhinney didn't think Hull's transport links were good enough.
Erm, Milton Keynes doesn't have an airport or a large port and only has the M1 to connect it to the rest of the country. Plymouth only has a tiny airport and the M5 is the nearest motorway, which stops miles away from it.

Hull has the M18, M62 and Humber Bridge to connect it to the rest of the country by road, a large port serving Holland and Belgium and Humberside airport a 10/15 min drive from Hull City Centre. Not only this, but Hull has a brilliant and successful Park N' Ride system on a matchday.

M1 Vs A63?

Okay so the M1 has a few issues at the moment but that is just daft.

Luton airport is the same distance from MK as Humberside is to us, closer if you take tolls into account.

I'm pretty sure that Exter airport is bigger than Humberside, and whilst the M5 doesn't go all the way to Plymouth (like the M62 and Hull) you do get to enjoy Dartmoor National Park while you do it.

Hotels?

A quick google maps search shows Hull has easily as many hotels, if not more than Plymouth and Milton Keynes and was also going to use floating hotels on the Humber and also provided an option of using hotels in Beverley and York. Plus, recent plans for Copthorne, Hilton and Travelodge to build hotels in the city in the coming years.

Conspiracy theory:

What's the betting we'll see upturns in the fortunes of those who have been picked to host games? Plymouth, MK:Dons, Leeds, Sheff Weds, Bristol City - all in the Prem by 2018? Most likely, the FA won't want the egg on their faces of being left with white elephants.

I'll just leave that bit alone, it is a joke, yes?

pug

December 19th, 2009, 09:18 PM

I'm pretty sure that Exter airport is bigger than Humberside, and whilst the M5 doesn't go all the way to Plymouth (like the M62 and Hull) you do get to enjoy Dartmoor National Park while you do it.

Plymouth also has an airport with numerous domestic flights which wouldnt work from Humberside...

The talk of the ferries being a major gateway for foreign fans is quite optimistic, the port handles around 1 million passengers a year both Rotterdam and Zebbrugge combined. To put it into context, Leeds Bradford airport handles around 3 million and im pretty sure the M1 handles more than that in a day!

Geographicaly we are let down, whilst i do not wish to dwell on the past we were told the east coast motorway would not be cost effective, so instead of the Humber Bridge being part of the highways agency we are left with huge tolls. Its a lose lose situation. That is the one thing the government could do for us to help us! Get rid of the tolls!!

Hull is not a vibrant city either, there is a negligable population of young proffessionals who keep other cities lively way after 6 oclock. Dont get me wrong, Hull is not as much of a no-go area as it was a few years ago at this time, but it is a ghost town most nights!! Perhaps there should be talk of late night shopping year round to get the place busier on an evening? Could be a catalyst for further growth.

Lastly is that a lot of the population are embarrassingly insular, while we may be a friendly city there is a lot of contempt for 'outsiders' which gives the place a sense of unwelcome... This could in theory put off any private investor, its like the people are so stuck in their ways that they are not open to change and so companies just set up at Leeds or Sheffield....

Thiose are the things which are going against us in the broader sense, its great that Hull keeps bidding for these things and it must continue, but they must also learn from their mistakes.

I fully believe that applying for such things raises awareness of the city, but i believe that realisticaly it will take decades of pushing to be in a position to compete with Sheffield or Leeds...

albionfagan

December 29th, 2009, 04:18 PM

Just about to set off for the Reebok, I feel this is a much win game........Come on the Tigers!

westendwilly

December 29th, 2009, 06:36 PM

legolamb

December 29th, 2009, 07:42 PM

Just about to set off for the Reebok, I feel this is a much win game........Come on the Tigers!

Gutted I can't make it. I try to get to all away games here in the north west usually but just after christmas moneys to tight to mention

Definitely an important game, but i hope people don't lose hope and morAle go crashing through the floor if we lose. I still fully expect us to spring a few big surprises against the big teams in which case dropped points tonight wouldn't matter.

Anyway. I'm still mega excited about it. Hope i can get a decent stream. COME ON CITY!!!!

Dazzar86

January 21st, 2010, 05:44 PM

From Tiger Chat, talking to/about Adam Pearson at last night OSC meeting in Cottingham;

On the World Cup bid
He looked incandescent with rage at this one.

Everything was in place, and the council had been massively supportive. Just couldn’t understand why they would have given it to MK, Bristol and Plymouth. If there was anything letting the Hull bid down, it was the amount of hotel beds. However, what it probably came down to was a clash of personalities. Pearson has worked with Lord Mawhinney before, and he is quite a complex character.

If they had got the bid, the ground would have been expanded to 34,500, with a further 10,000 temporary seats on during the tournament. That won’t happen now. However, there was a meeting last week with the council, and they have approved the club to go to planning stage for an extra 5,000 seats.

Pippin0490

January 28th, 2010, 07:25 PM

Hull City star Nick Barmby has been honoured by the University of Hull.

The footballer was made a doctor of the Cottingham Road university this afternoon.

Dressed in ceremonial robes, he was given the honour by the university's Chancellor, Baroness Bottomley of Nettlestone.

Barmby told the Mail he was elated and honoured.

He said: "It is a huge honour. Phil Brown let me out of training early today - he keeps calling me doc. "The lads are pleased for me. I am elated."

Dazzar86

February 3rd, 2010, 02:48 AM

Brilliant draw tonight - "Terry! where's your wife!?? Terry! Terry! Where's your wife?" haha!

Glad for young Cairney - he's looking a good prospect.

Pippin0490

February 3rd, 2010, 11:13 AM

Tom Cairney the next Nick Barmby?

legolamb

February 3rd, 2010, 11:45 AM

Bushy_Badger

February 3rd, 2010, 02:38 PM

Some are saying the next Steven Gerrard pippin. it's quite exciting. Apparently striker mark Cullen is another great prospect he's scored something like 40 goals in 38 games for the youth team this season

Just read the link below. It was posted on one of the messageboards.

http://football.fanhouse.co.uk/2010/02/03/big-clubs-alerted-as-hull-unleash-tom-cairney-on-the-premier-lea/

Chris (Newcastle)

February 3rd, 2010, 07:04 PM

Well done City! Great performance and the perfect time to hit some good form. :)

pug

February 4th, 2010, 04:33 AM

Agreed, just hope its not too late..

One little thing. Could the thread be changed to 'Hull City AFC' by any chance? I dont want to sound picky but looks too much like 'Hull FC'.

legolamb

February 4th, 2010, 12:43 PM

I'd PM B4mmy about that if I were you pug

Chris (Newcastle)

February 4th, 2010, 05:10 PM

Great piece in the Telegraph:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/hullcity/7155864/George-Boateng-predicts-bright-England-future-for-Hull-City-starlet-Tom-Cairney.html

George Boateng predicts bright England future for Hull City starlet Tom Cairney

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01572/cairney_1572108c.jpg

Hull midfielder George Boateng knows a thing or two about what it takes to become a senior England international and so the future is looking bright for teenager Tom Cairney as he tipped his team-mate to play for his country.

By Rob Stewart
Published: 11:48AM GMT 04 Feb 2010

Up and coming: Tom Cairney has been tipped as future England international Photo: PA Boateng saw Stewart Downing come through Middlesbrough’s ranks to gain full England honours and he confidently predicted rookie midfielder Cairney, 19, would follow in the winger’s footsteps after his impressive display in the 1-1 draw against Chelsea.

“I hope he stays grounded because he’s a tremendous talent and if he works on his game, he’ll be an England international – he’s that good,” Boateng said.

“It’s a big statement but I said this with Stewart Downing when he was 17 at Middlesbrough. Stewart made it because he’s a down-to-earth guy and worked hard on his fitness. Tom, with a bit of belief, can do it because he’s that good.

“In the future I want to be sat at home and say to my kids ‘You see that boy wearing the England shirt? I played with him.’ That would be a very proud moment for me.”

Nottingham-born Cairney’s sudden rise to prominence in the absence of injury-jinxed Jimmy Bullard at Hull is all the more remarkable because he was ushered out of Leeds as a schoolboy because he was deemed too small.

“I’m pleased for him but I just hope people will not spoil it and write too much stuff where his head will become too big for him because he’s a tremendous talent,” Boateng added.

“What brought me this far is that I keep my feet on the floor. I’ve had highs and lows but I’ve never thought that I am bigger than what I am. I like players like Tom who are still grounded and he’s a joy to play with.”

The pair have formed an impressive midfield alliance following months of work on Hull’s practice ground with Boateng now charged by Hull manager Phil Brown with nurturing Cairney who is being urged to focus on England despite representing Scotland at youth level.

Cairney regularly seeks Boateng’s advice and the former Aston Villa player is clearly relishing a mentoring role that revived memories of his days playing alongside Ronald Koeman in Holland.

“He’s my boy, I like him a lot,” Boateng, 34, continued. “I played with Ronald Koeman and he was my mentor. Many years before I played with him I was a ball boy at the European Cup Winners’ Cup in Rotterdam when Barcelona played Manchester United.

“He scored in that game and four years later I played with him at Feyenoord. I loved him and he coached me all the time. He would say ‘don’t run with the ball, just give it to me, you run and I will deliver the ball.’

“It helps you so much when you’ve got a player like that. I looked up to him and we’ve stayed always in contact. After a while we were competing because I wanted to be better than him. I’m ready for that with Tom but I don’t mind, so long as it helps him.”

Jimmy who? :lol:

ChrisG (Hull)

February 6th, 2010, 12:20 PM

Memorial to FA founder Ebenezer Cobb Morley
Saturday, February 06, 2010, 06:30
http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/news/Memorial-FA-founder-Ebenezer-Cobb-Morley/article-1810985-detail/article.html

THE Hull man who founded the Football Association will finally be given a permanent memorial.

Ebenezer Cobb Morley devised the first FA football rule book and even dreamed up the rules for the FA Cup.

Yet few people know Morley was born in Hull, where he stayed until he was 22.

Nearly two years ago, after the Mail approached Hull City Council, officials agreed to fund a plaque in his memory.

But there was one stumbling block – nobody knew exactly where Morley was born, so there was nowhere to put it.

The Mail appealed for help and suggestions poured in, but no one could solve the riddle.

Until now.

Diligent staff at the newly-opened Hull History Centre have tracked down the house in which he was born by finding his parents on census records.

Morley's first address, 10 Garden Square, Princess Street, no longer exists.

However, as the terrace once stood in the area of Worship Street, where the history centre is now, staff thought it a fitting place for a memorial.

It is yet to be decided what kind of memorial will be placed at the centre, although a blue plaque has been ruled out because they are fitted to birthplaces.

Carol Tanner, senior archivist at Hull History Centre, who helped find the address, said: "We will be looking to commemorate Ebenezer Cobb Morley on one of the pillars in the Hull History Centre arcade.

"We feel it would be fitting to do this when the football season begins again this year.

"He is a son of Hull who made a contribution that is little recognised and it also seems fitting that the history centre, which sits so close to where his home would have been, should acknowledge him."

The FA, which has been accused of not doing enough to remember Mr Cobb Morley, has welcomed the news.

FA historian David Barber said: "The FA is pleased to learn of plans for Mr Morley's association with Hull, his place of birth, to be recognised with a memorial.

"It would be entirely appropriate to call Ebenezer Cobb Morley the 'father of football'.

"It was his initiative that led to the meeting at which, on his proposal,The Football Association was formed in 1863.

"The FA and the football world has a lot to thank old Ebenezer for."

Peter Lupton, who is a football historian who has campaigned for the FA to help with the restoration of Mr Morley's grave in Barnes, London, also welcomed the news.

He said: "I think it's extremely important Hull celebrates the man who gave association football to the world. He is a son of Hull who has been all but forgotten and it is time that changed."

Chris (Newcastle)

February 6th, 2010, 07:03 PM

MAULED BY THE TIGERS! :banana:

legolamb

February 6th, 2010, 07:14 PM

Happy days are here again. :colgate:

Pippin0490

February 6th, 2010, 07:16 PM

All i have to say is: :banana:

legolamb

February 6th, 2010, 07:57 PM

Just posted this on the sports section.

Definitely encouraging. We need to make sure we take plenty of points from these clubs, and the top teams they are all playing in the run-in should do the rest for us.

Remaining fixtures for the teams in and around the relegation scrap presuming Portsmouth are gone, and sunderland have the quality to recover (debatable).

Games against current top 7 clubs highlighted in bold

Wolves (5)

Sun 7 Birmingham PREM
Wed 10 Tottenham PREM
Sat 20 Chelsea PREM
Sat 27 Bolton PREM
March
Sat 6 Man Utd PREM
Sat 13 Burnley PREM
Sat 20 Aston Villa PREM
Tue 23 West Ham Utd PREM
Sat 27 Everton PREM
April
Sat 3 Arsenal PREM
Sun 11 Stoke City PREM
Sat 17 Fulham PREM
Sat 24 Blackburn PREM
May
Sat 1 Portsmouth PREM
Sun 9 Sunderland PREM

Hull City (3)
Wed 10 Blackburn PREM
Sat 2 West Ham Utd PREM
Sat 27 Aston Villa PREM P-P
March
Sun 7 Everton PREM
Sat 13 Arsenal PREM
Sat 20 Portsmouth PREM
Sat 27 Fulham PREM
April
Sat 3 Stoke City PREM
Sat 10 Burnley PREM
Sat 1 Birmingham PREM
Sat 2 Sunderland PREM
May
Sat 1 Wigan Athletic PREM
Sun 9 Liverpool PREM

West Ham (5)
February
Wed 10 Birmingham PREM
Sat 20 Hull City PREM
Tue 23 Man Utd PREM
March
Sat 6 Bolton PREM
Sat 13 Chelsea PREM
Sat 20 Arsenal PREM
Tue 23 Wolves PREM
Sat 27 Stoke City PREM
April
Sat 3 Everton PREM
Sat 10 Sunderland PREM
Sat 17 Liverpool PREM
Sat 2 Wigan Athletic PREM
May
Sat 1 Fulham PREM
Sun 9 Manchester City PREM

Burnley (5)

Tue 9 20:00 A Fulham PREM
Sun 21 Aston Villa PREM
Sat 27 Portsmouth PREM
March
Sat 6 Arsenal PREM
Tue 9 Stoke City PREM
Sat 13 Wolves PREM
Sat 20 Wigan Athletic PREM
Sun 28 Blackburn PREM
April
Sat 3 Manchester City PREM
Sat 10 Hull City PREM
Sat 17 Sunderland PREM
Sat 24 Liverpool PREM
May
Sat 1 Birmingham PREM
Sun 9 Tottenham PREM

Bolton (5)

Tue 9 Manchester City PREM
Wed 17 Wigan Athletic PREM
Mon 22 Blackburn PREM
Sat 27 Wolves PREM
March
Sat 6 West Ham Utd PREM
Tue 9 Sunderland PREM
Sat 13 Wigan Athletic PREM
Sat 20 Everton PREM
Sat 27 Man Utd PREM
April
Sat 3 Aston Villa PREM
Sat 10 Chelsea PREM
Sat 17 Stoke City PREM
Sat 24 Portsmouth PREM
May
Sat 1 Tottenham PREM
Sun 9 Birmingham PREM

up the tigers

February 6th, 2010, 08:07 PM

Incredible result :banana: If we arent first on MOTD there must be a conspiracy against us.

Dazzar86

February 6th, 2010, 11:47 PM

"She's shagging away, she's shagging awaaaaaaaaaay, how shit must you be, she's shagging away!" :lol:

How funny that we had the two of Terry and Bridge within 4 days of each other.

legolamb

February 9th, 2010, 08:23 PM

Fantastic story and photo of Jozy's work in Haiti.

I didn't know he'd been on the LARRY KING SHOW :eek2:

Wayne Jacobs never was.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1249454/Haiti-hero-The-heartwarming-story-Hull-star-Jozy-Altidore--EXCLUSIVE.html

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/02/08/article-1249454-08327B7A000005DC-738_306x423.jpg

legolamb

February 10th, 2010, 05:16 PM

Step aside, Ajax!

http://www.blogcdn.com/football.fanhouse.co.uk/media/2010/02/mark-cullen-8210.jpg
On The Bench ... Mark Cullen, a Goalscoring Hope for the Future at Hull0
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The immediate future of Hull may not look too bright, but the long term prospects of the club appear to be in safe hands thanks to the emergence of teenager Mark Cullen.

Tom Cairney, Cullen's former colleague in the youth team, has stolen the striker's thunder this season after making a dramatic impact in Phil Brown's side.

Cairney, 19, has not looked back since being handed his Premier League debut last month and is being tipped for the top by those who work with him at the KC Stadium.

But it seems he might not be the only Hull youngster destined for fame and fortune as Cullen gets set to roll off the production line on Humberside.

Cullen, who was born in Stakeford, Northumberland, slipped through Newcastle's net when he joined Hull on a two-year scholarship in 2008.

Since then he has developed ahead of schedule, to such a degree that he was drafted into Brown's squad earlier this season and handed his debut as a substitute in Hull's FA Cup defeat to Wigan at the DW Stadium.

It wasn't a happy memory for Cullen, but he seems destined to have more ups than downs as his career progresses.

Cullen, 17, has been a revelation in the youth ranks this season, scoring 27 goals for manager Billy Russell's side.

His achievements saw him promoted to the reserves and he continued to impress, leaving Brown with no choice but to give him some experience at the highest level possible.

His mentor at the club is veteran forward Nicky Barmby, who is taking a close interest in the player's development.

Former England, Tottenham, Liverpool and Leeds player Barmby knows a thing or two about what is required to reach the top and is convinced Cullen has what it takes.

He said: "Mark came on against Wigan and he's another player that takes care with his passing. He didn't give the ball away and held it up well.
"He's been training with us at Millhouse Woods Lane for a while now and he's a great prospect. He's been banging the goals in for fun in the youth team this season, he's got a real eye for goal.

"He's tenacious as well, he's got that good nasty edge that you need, that little bit of devilment. Fingers crossed he can keep progressing like we know that he can. He has a big future ahead of him."

Dazzar86

February 21st, 2010, 12:56 PM

So, ANOTHER dire away performance. Why can't Brown motivate his team for away games/against the lesser clubs?

We're looking in a bad state at the moment - teams around us picking up points, plus we've played 2 more games than most around us. We have a team capable of being good enough to stay in this league, they just need to show it on the field.

We're in danger of going down if we don't buck up our ideas.

Personally, I prefered the Championship for football, BUT the focus the team and the city as a whole gets from Premier League football far outweighs the joys of the Championship... this got me thinking, how much has Premier League football done for the city in recent years? it seems more has been achieved and things have prospered more and other people have set up businesses off the back of money generated by the football.

legolamb

February 21st, 2010, 07:30 PM

results have gone fairly well for us today with burnley and bolton losing and staying in the bottom three. A battling draw vs. Everton next week and things start to look a bit brighter.

Failing that we will do arsenal to halt any title hopes they have. Call the medics if you want but i think the lads will be well psyched for that one, and jimmy and geo will be pulling the strings.

legolamb

February 24th, 2010, 03:21 PM

JIMMY'S BACK!!

17 minute wondergoal. Flicked up freekick volley a la Matt Le Tissier.

P2YSoIjtl9w

Pippin0490

February 24th, 2010, 07:49 PM

^ Wow, bloody brilliant

Dazzar86

February 26th, 2010, 02:28 PM

At the fans forum last night, Adam Pearson said plans are set to go to the council about an upgrade to the KC Stadium similar to that at Horwich Parkway i.e. Reebok Stadium, Bolton.

KC to be extended to accomodate 28,000 - but Pearson hopes they may be able to up it to 30,000 as he believes this is the correct capacity for the city. The plans also include a hotel and office blocks (based on the design at the Reebok).

Dazzar86

February 26th, 2010, 04:06 PM

From what I can gather, the hotel/office blocks are the block on the right:
From barrymillerphotographics.co.uk;

http://i48.tinypic.com/11ipwdk.jpg

LackofColour

March 13th, 2010, 10:28 AM

has anybody got a working link for the jimmy bullard wash & go advert?

Dazzar86

March 13th, 2010, 01:32 PM

http://www.youtube.com/user/washandgo21

LackofColour

March 13th, 2010, 02:13 PM

thanks, the guys a hoot

Bushy_Badger

March 15th, 2010, 02:09 PM

A tad harsh after Saturdays result and performance but I guess the decision will have been based on the the last 15 months.

http://www.hullcityafc.net/page/NewsDetail/0,,10338~1994482,00.html

bigchrisfgb

March 16th, 2010, 12:42 AM

You can have Chris Hughton if you want.

legolamb

March 16th, 2010, 01:53 AM

Alright then. Swapsy Gary Megson.

bigchrisfgb

March 16th, 2010, 02:25 AM

Alright then. Swapsy Gary Megson.
Nah, the key word was have.

We'll get our own manager, for the love of god not Phil Brown.

legolamb

March 16th, 2010, 02:48 AM

Actually, I can definitely see Brown at your club. I think you should go for it. ;)

Oh, scrap that megson deal, he's out of the running. Thankfully we have been granted mercy.

Apparently it's between Dowie, Hughes and Grant.

LackofColour

March 16th, 2010, 12:01 PM

hopefully they'll come into that mini bit of form teams tend to get when they get a new manager in

Bushy_Badger

March 16th, 2010, 02:40 PM

hopefully they'll come into that mini bit of form teams tend to get when they get a new manager in

The only city manager I remember that happening with was Peter Taylor. Baring him I can rarely remember a manager having an immediate impact at City.

Pippin0490

March 16th, 2010, 05:38 PM

The only city manager I remember that happening with was Peter Taylor. Baring him I can rarely remember a manager having an immediate impact at City.

Phil Brown? Saved us from relegation from the championship.

Dazzar86

March 19th, 2010, 11:20 PM

Iain 'Mr. Incredible' Dowie to save Hull City A.F.C?

http://i43.tinypic.com/eiu84.jpg

legolamb

March 26th, 2010, 12:04 PM

http://en.tackfilm.se/?id=1269564977410RA12

SWEDISH TV ADVERTISING HERO!! :ROFL:

Dazzar86

March 26th, 2010, 12:50 PM

MEGA LOLZ! that is ace!

Bushy_Badger

March 29th, 2010, 01:33 PM

Withernsea & District Hull City Offical Supporters Club meeting tonight at Withernsea Golf Club with guest Adam Pearson.

Free for all OSC members, £2 for non members. Doors open at 7pm for 7:30pm start. Quiz, raffle etc, expecting a good turn out and Look North are doing a preview on the TV too.

Dazzar86

March 29th, 2010, 01:58 PM

Are you going, Bushy? bit far out for me to get to. Can you try find out who the kit manufacturer is for next season, please? :)

Bushy_Badger

March 29th, 2010, 02:12 PM

Are you going, Bushy? bit far out for me to get to. Can you try find out who the kit manufacturer is for next season, please? :)

Not sure yet Darren but someone from our office is certainly going and he will hopefully remember to ask your question. The current rumour is Adidas and with the mass reduction clearout that the City shop is having a new manufacturer looks on the cards.

Dazzar86

March 29th, 2010, 02:20 PM

Yeah, I've heard the adidas rumours - I made a few mock ups of Adidas 2010 templates, but apparently Pearson has confirmed it will be back to stripes next season.

Which means this is the only viable one of those templates;
http://i42.tinypic.com/6p5gmb.jpg

Though I've just seen another striped 2010 Adidas template.

Bushy_Badger

March 29th, 2010, 03:58 PM

That hurts the eyes it's that bad.

Just mimic the Argentine home shirt and you can't go wrong. Go with the amber stripe in the middle as opposed to the black stripe in the middle of 2 years ago.

http://www.adidas.com/campaigns/football/content/products.aspx?collection=federation

And if your looking for an away design the River Plate home kit is nice and simple. Not sure what colour stripe to suggest though.

http://www.adidas.com/campaigns/football/content/products.aspx?collection=clubs

Dazzar86

March 29th, 2010, 04:03 PM

It's more likely to be a club template than a country template, so doubt it'll be the Argie design. Club 2010 template I've seen is;

http://www.football-shirts.co.uk/fans/djurgarden-home-and-away-shirts-2010_6547

Dazzar86

March 31st, 2010, 03:10 PM

Not sure yet Darren but someone from our office is certainly going and he will hopefully remember to ask your question. The current rumour is Adidas and with the mass reduction clearout that the City shop is having a new manufacturer looks on the cards.

Any updates yet, Bushy?

Oh, and here is that template as a City shirt;

http://i43.tinypic.com/21e7zau.jpg

http://i44.tinypic.com/igyu7t.jpg

Bushy_Badger

March 31st, 2010, 06:13 PM

Any updates yet, Bushy?

Apologies Darren but your question was not asked, I am not sure why. The only thing from the night that I was told that I can remember is that City are losing 800k a month and that is why we have to reduce the wage bill ASAP. I will quiz my colleague again tomorrow and post the stuff straight away, apologies for my vagueness but it's been one crazy week.

Oh, and here is that template as a City shirt;

http://i44.tinypic.com/igyu7t.jpg

Stunning, send the design to City, its the best one I have seen in a long long time.

Taken from city website.
Advertising & Sponsorship
Contact: Becky Churms - 01482 304739 - becky.churms@hulltigers.com
Contact: Linton Brown - 01482 304739 - linton.brown@hulltigers.com

I am sure you can figure out Adam Pearsons email address following the format above. Maybe drop them all an email, say you wont charge them this time but a free season pass wouldn't go a miss. :)

Bushy_Badger

April 1st, 2010, 01:08 PM

A bit more from the other night.

Very few players are out of contract at the end of the season.

Pearson feels there is a core of 7/8 players who would stick with us if we went down.

If Dowie keeps us up Pearson pretty much said the job next season would be his.

They would love to purchase Altidore but the fee would have to be reduced to around 2-3 million from what is currently agreed 6.5 million.

If City stay up there are plans to increase the stadium by 2500. Hull City Council are behind this.

Pearson was concerned with the treatment of certain players under the last regime.

Brown got a win bonus after Saturdays game.

Pearson feels 37 points will be enough to stay up, and that the target for safety is to overtake Wigan.

Chris (Newcastle)

April 1st, 2010, 06:32 PM

Any updates yet, Bushy?

Oh, and here is that template as a City shirt;

http://i43.tinypic.com/21e7zau.jpg

http://i44.tinypic.com/igyu7t.jpg

I'd buy that Dazzar. I liked last years, but this years ain't doing it for me. Very Wolves...Tigers have stripes and that is one of the more unique kits in the world of football.

Dazzar86

April 3rd, 2010, 04:47 PM

Can't see us getting anything today - McShane at centreback and a Folan-Fagan strike partnership!

up the tigers

April 3rd, 2010, 06:00 PM

Very poor performance again. Theres absoultely no cutting edge whatsoever. Absolutely huge game next weekend vs Burnley.

Dazzar86

April 6th, 2010, 02:38 PM

Yeah, make or break time - lose to Bumley and we deserve to go down, they're useless! Shame our defence and 'management consultant's' teams selections are, too!

legolamb

April 6th, 2010, 03:15 PM

Bushy_Badger

April 6th, 2010, 05:39 PM

If the worst does happen and we go down, I don't think it's the end of the world by any means. It's not gonna be easy to achieve, but I think that having such a big squad means we could feasibly offload enough players on big salaries, and still be left with enough decent players to make us competitive in the fizzy. Especially with the youth prospects coming through. Once Duffen's financial mess has been mopped up I can see us making a return to the prem in a stronger position in a couple of years if the situation is handled correctly.

I think if we go down we could well suffer with administration which could lead to another relegation.

6 games left, 3 of them fairly winnable (Burnley, Sunderland & Wigan) We would have to pick up 7-9 points from them games and maybe scramble a point or two from the others.

Dazzar86

April 6th, 2010, 06:22 PM

It's no longer 'the fizzy (pop)' it's now the NPC (NPower Championship).

We wouldn't go into administration, Liz on Vital Hull has worked it out roughly - her threads make good reading.

Points could be likely in all our remaining games, IMO. Home games is an obvious - we play well at home and * touch wood * will continue to do so;

win Vs Bumley (rubbish away from home)
win/draw Vs Sunderland (as above - though they've been getting better)
win/draw Vs Villa (midweek, night match and at home)
&
possible draw Vs L'pool. (not been at the races much this season)

As for away games, we have to hope for draws IMO, hopefully push for a win Vs Wigan if we're lucky!

Dazzar86

April 7th, 2010, 10:33 AM

£20m hotel and business centre could unlock KC Stadium expansion
Wednesday, April 07, 2010, 07:01
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A £20m-plus hotel and business centre development is being planned in a move which could pave the way for the KC Stadium's expansion, the Mail can exclusively reveal.

The scheme is being proposed by the Stadium Management Company (SMC), which operates the lease on the KC Stadium and the area immediately around it.

The plans would see a 4-5 storey, 150-bedroom hotel and a separate business centre rise just 50 yards from the stadium's South Stand land, currently used for car parking.

Crucially, the development would require a re-negotiation of the lease between the SMC and Hull City Council, owners of the stadium and the land surrounding it in West Park.

That re-negotiation would include moves to agree funding arrangements for increasing the stadium's capacity to help Hull City become a sustainable Premier League club.

The Mail understands the hotel and business centre development is proposed to go ahead irrespective of whether the Tigers win their battle to avoid relegation from the top flight of English football.

However, the timing of any extension of the stadium, increasing the capacity from just over 25,000 seats to about 30,000, would depend on City's prospects of staying in, or returning to, the Premier League.

The bill for increasing the stadium by 5,000 seats would be up to £10m, but the costs and inconvenience could be reduced by doing some work on the infrastructure at the same time as the hotel and business centre scheme.

Hull City chairman Adam Pearson, who is also SMC chairman, said: "If we were to undertake this development there would be a pretty strong commitment to the extension of the stadium, which would be phased at stages appropriate to the development of the club."

The Hull development is dependent upon agreement between the SMC and the city council over the terms of the lease and also planning permission.

The development would be entirely separate from the football club.

The Mail understands the capital cost of the development would be funded through borrowing, with a return on that investment from income from the hotel and business centre.

In tomorrow's Mail: How the KC Stadium could be a regeneration catalyst for west Hull.

http://i44.tinypic.com/15k2vs.jpg

Dazzar86

April 7th, 2010, 10:36 AM

I'll withold any major comments until I've seen a better/clearer render... but from that, it doesn't look the most inspiring of designs. But at least it'd look better than Anlaby Rd flyover!

Kingston Upon Hull

April 7th, 2010, 12:14 PM

Has anybody been inside the Gemtec (Bonus) arena?

I was just wondering how many people it can hold and would it be able to hold gigs and such like?

Pippin0490

April 7th, 2010, 12:31 PM

Has anybody been inside the Gemtec (Bonus) arena?

I was just wondering how many people it can hold and would it be able to hold gigs and such like?

It's really not very large at all. Smaller than Hull arena. It's really only good at holding small events.

Bushy_Badger

April 7th, 2010, 01:53 PM

The Gemtec arena is being used for the 2010 Chamber Expo. For the past few years they have used the suites at the KC stadium. My personal opinion is that it is a huge come down for the event although the Hull Chamber of Commerce are saying the Gemtec arena is a more suitable site but I dont agree.

livin' hull

April 7th, 2010, 02:40 PM

re gemtec (actually now the bonus arena!)

heres the website

http://www.kcstadium.co.uk/arena/facilities

and heres the inside
http://www.kcstadium.co.uk/images/sized/site-includes/uploads/side/arenafacilities-220x138.jpg

having visited both gemtec for events and used the KC suites, if the expo's a stalls type event then the gemtec is probably ok, the KC suites are great for presentations, but the last NHS service improvement day held there (stalls demonstrating improvements in local NHS care), was held on the concourse (!)and was a bit on the cold side - would have prefered it in 1 space such as the gemtec...

but for 'prestige' putting KC stadium on the invite/advert does sound better !

Dazzar86

April 9th, 2010, 11:03 AM

"Take down Boothferry Park floodlights before someone breaks their neck"
Friday, April 09, 2010, 07:30
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The company behind the demolition of Boothferry Park is being urged to tear down the floodlights before someone "breaks their neck".

Residents living in the shadow of the tall structures are concerned after watching people climb right to the top.

The remaining buildings of Hull City's former home were finally been demolished earlier this year, leaving just the floodlights standing.

Troubled owners Paloma Land Ltd have promised to take down the floodlights but residents want it done before the summer holidays.

Deborah Curtis, 42, of North Road, said: "We have had quite a few people climbing the floodlights and it's not just kids.

"I have often seen people climb right to the top. I have been in my garden and had to shout at them to come down because I fear they will fall and break their neck.

"The problem will be even worse during the summer when children become bored.

"There is no point in Paloma demolishing the stadium if it isn't going to finish the job."

The final phase of demolition was completed in February.

Boothferry Park closed its gates in 2002 when the team moved to the new KC stadium.

Since then, there have been numerous acts of vandalism and arson.

Paloma planned to build housing on the site but this has stalled due to financial difficulties.

Local councillor Craig Woolmer has written to the company urging it to stop dragging its heels.

He said: "In recent weeks, residents have reported youths climbing these pylons. Not only is this a danger to the youths involved, but it is also causing distress and alarm for many neighbouring residents.

"The safety of local residents is my main concern and so would appreciate a very speedy resolution to the issues."

The matter has been complicated as Orange has a telecommunication mast on one of the pylons.

But a spokesman for the company said: "Orange has decommissioned this site at Boothferry Park in March 2010 and have removed the majority of the equipment, including antennas and dishes.

"The equipment remaining at the site is not an issue or blocker to the redevelopment.

"Therefore Orange are in no way holding up the development of the residential area."

Hull City Council has vowed to keep a close eye on proceedings.

Mark Willoughby, principal environmental health officer, said: "The council's area team has been working with Humberside Police to conduct regular patrols at the site, and residents have also assisted by contacting the council to report breaches at the site."

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Shame, I was hoping they would keep them standing as a lasting memory to what the site was.

Plus, (I'm not 100% on this) wasn't Boothferry Park the first place to get floodlights after Wembley or something like that?

...and aren't they known for being the tallest floodlights in Europe?

If that bombsite on Bev Rd is being apposed for redevelopment into a restaurant and apartments because of it's 'historical significance' surely these have as much, if not more, reason to stay?

Can't they just put high safety fencing around them?

Pippin0490

April 9th, 2010, 01:48 PM

Problem is they're rusty and seriously dangerous.

Would have been a good idea to keep them, but after 8 years of neglect, alas, it would not be safe.

Chris (Newcastle)

April 9th, 2010, 03:52 PM

What if people didn't climb up them?

livin' hull

April 9th, 2010, 04:17 PM

Shame, I was hoping they would keep them standing as a lasting memory to what the site was.

seriously ? time to pull them down, they're an eyesore.. if you want a tribute, have a public square with a grass centre circle where it would've been and a plaque..

(and if i remember rightly Boothferry park was only ground with 6 lighting pylons, its claim to fame, that and the railway halt!)

Chris (Newcastle)

April 9th, 2010, 04:51 PM

Why don't we donate the rusty floodlights to Leeds. They're probably newer than theirs.

:lol:

Dazzar86

April 9th, 2010, 05:37 PM

seriously ? time to pull them down, they're an eyesore.. if you want a tribute, have a public square with a grass centre circle where it would've been and a plaque..

(and if i remember rightly Boothferry park was only ground with 6 lighting pylons, its claim to fame, that and the railway halt!)

Not to mention the first place to host a penalty shoot-out in England.

Dazzar86

April 10th, 2010, 02:47 AM

MEGA LOLZ! - anyone seen this Tevez-piss take in city centre?

http://i44.tinypic.com/23kbwic.jpg

legolamb

April 10th, 2010, 06:23 PM

Bushy_Badger

April 10th, 2010, 07:48 PM

I've stuck by them as much as possible, but this overpaid set of wankers have lost all my respect today. Their complacency has shamed everybody associated with the club and the city.

Keep Moyoukolo, Dawson, Cairney, Cullen, Cooper and Zayatte and get every single other member of the playing staff off the payroll.

Walking away from the ground today feeling ashamed and embarrassed, reminded me of the trip to Belle Vue in 98, we played a hapless Doncaster side rooted to the bottom of the league and yet they managed to beat us made us look worse on the day. I am sure it was Grand National day then too as it was the last time I won money on that race.

I agree with your thoughts but we wont be in a postion to cull for the championship as we so want. We will have to wait and see if any players attract the interest of other clubs and no doubt take what we can get, financially we are close to being fooked. Oh how we mocked Bradford and Leeds for the way they spent in the premiership and we have gone and done the same.

Let's get a more high profile manager who can attract some experienced players of proven premier quality without crippling the finances on disgustingly inflated agents fees, and we'll be back in 4-5 years.

Steve Coppell please.

Bushy_Badger

April 10th, 2010, 07:51 PM

MEGA LOLZ! - anyone seen this Tevez-piss take in city centre?

http://i44.tinypic.com/23kbwic.jpg

Takes bottle which that cunt does not have.

legolamb

April 10th, 2010, 08:24 PM

Unless it means these bottles round Hessle Square

http://www.mediabistro.com/agencyspy/original/stella-artois-bottle.jpg

Dazzar86

April 10th, 2010, 09:23 PM

Utter sh!te!!! I cannot believe how poor we were! dock ther wages this week - then see how they perform the week after - I bet they'd soon buck up their ideas!

Dowie had it wrong from the start - he said on the radio that Jan brought something to the table and made us play better when he came on, brought us an actual attacking threat - YES WE ALL KNOW THIS! THAT IS WHY HE IS IN ALL THE FANS FAVOURED STARTING LINE-UPS!!!

We got the goal and Burnley looked nervous - they were there for the taking and we took the foot off the pedal instead, then just laid down and died for them.

Ref:
VERY one-sided, gave us nothing, gave us yellows for petty things too. Can you tell he's from Leeds and has only ever sent off 5 players (or something like that) in his Prem League reffing history - 2 of those are Hull City players!

1st pen - Ref cocked up by giving them the freekick again after Fagan had cleanly blocked the ball - I really don't thnk it was a pen either.

2nd pen - What the hell was Mendy doing??? in the build up though, Nugent CLEARLY handballed it, our players all stopped expecting something soo clear to be given, which is how Nugent managed to run all the way to goal unchallenged.

Bullard - £45k!?? I wish I could be paid that for doing f* all on a football field. The guy can't even hit the target with a clear shot on goal and can't beat the first man from corners.

Jozy, after a good start, looked completely off the pace.

Mouyokolo and Sonko were very edgy and nervous, which didnt help.

Kilbane, other than the goal - what was he on the field for?

As has been said, Boateng and Fagan the only two trying with the odd spell from Altidore and Jan when he came on.

I can't see us staying up now. Give some of the kids a try for the rest of the season - and try get Mowbray in for next season please! he builds a TEAM and unearths unknown gems - what we'll need on a budget.

Bushy_Badger

April 13th, 2010, 10:14 AM

http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/news/Tigers-face-administration-relegated-Premier-League-says-expert/article-2004718-detail/article.html

HULL City have been left facing the real prospect of administration should they be relegated, a football finance expert has told the Mail.
Without a remarkable turnaround in fortunes to secure Premier League survival, the club looks set to suffer a summer of financial woe.
Until now, the Tigers have refused to discuss the possibility of going into administration, with club owner Russell Bartlett determined to trade through any financial difficulties.

However, without another year of Premier League television money, the Mail has been told that given the scale of the club's debts – and a mammoth £38.9m wage bill – that will be hugely difficult.
Following City's 4-1 defeat to Burnley on Saturday, the Mail contacted chairman Adam Pearson yesterday to discuss the club's future.
He was reluctant to talk about the possibility of going into administration, but when pressed on the matter he could not guarantee it wouldn't happen, stating that "nothing could be ruled out" at present.
And he again stressed City face some of the club's most difficult days should the Tigers fail to secure survival.
"I think the only thing I can say at present is that it is very difficult for me to discuss our financial situation in public at present, other than to say there is nothing that can be ruled out," Mr Pearson admitted.
"It is a difficult balance between scare-mongering and understanding the full scale of the club's financial position."

Football finance experts and well-placed sources appear to agree that administration looks a real possibility should City go down.
After the defeat to Burnley, City now find themselves four points adrift of a safe position in the Premier League table, with just five games remaining to play.
Following auditors Deloitte's predicting a £21m shortfall should City lose their battle for top-flight survival, and with the Tigers' position looking ever more perilous, we approached a highly-regarded football finance expert who followed Portsmouth's demise into administration closely this season.
We asked him to consider how the Tigers could manage their near £39m wage bill, and debts which are believed to have climbed back close to £25m in recent months.

City's latest published accounts – which detailed the club's finances to July 2009 – showed the club owed £4.6m to banks, £4.5m in taxes and a further £14.6m to "trade creditors" at that time.
Of those creditors, £12.8m related to money still owed to other clubs for players presently playing for the Tigers.
The Mail understands that outstanding figure on transfers has since come down.
However, it is still thought to stand in the region of £10m, as City are still paying in instalments to clubs for the likes of Jimmy Bullard, Anthony Gardner, Steven Mouyokolo and Stephen Hunt.
Despite Mr Pearson making sweeping cost-cutting measures since his return to the KC Stadium six months ago, the Mail understands the club is still losing more than £500,000 a month.
It is a far cry from the club Mr Pearson sold in 2007, which then had no debts and a wage bill of about £4m.
The Tigers have also now used up all their Premier League entitlements, with the accounts revealing City have recently taken another advance payment of £7m.

Football business expert Professor Wyn Grant, of Warwick University, says administration could well be the next step given City's financial position.
"Certainly, when you look at Hull's wage bill, it will be far from easy to manage the club," he told the Mail.
"Parachute payments go up to £16m next year for sides going down, but looking at the money going out of the club, it could well be heading to administration."
See today's Mail for a full analysis on Hull City's financial situation, including:

* How player transfers have led to the club facing difficulty balancing the books

* What auditors warned the Tigers

* What administration means

Bushy_Badger

April 13th, 2010, 10:17 AM

http://www.sporthull.co.uk/headlines/Transfer-spending-spree-lead-financial-nightmare/article-2007636-detail/article.html

WHEN Jimmy Bullard was paraded to fans in January 2009, his signing was hailed as proof Hull City were able to compete with the big boys.
Today however, the record £5m transfer appears symbolic of a club prepared to play a high-risk game that could end in financial disaster.
Agreeing to join from Fulham, Bullard was made by far City's highest-ever earner, on wages of £45,000 a week.
And with his arrival, the Tigers committed to spending £18m in total on just one player over four years, including transfer payments, a signing on fee, bonuses, agent costs and wages.

To this day, the Mail understands City still have about £11m outstanding to pay on Bullard over the course of the rest of his deal, which runs to 2013.
And, of course, should the 31-year-old rediscover his magical best and steer City to Premier League survival over the final five games, some will insist he was worth the gamble.
But now the bigger, and much more worrying thought, is what if he doesn't?
City's defeat to Burnley at the weekend has left the club on the brink of relegation.

More worryingly, a football finance expert says administration could also follow.
With auditors warning City will face a £21m shortfall should they lose Premier League status in May, chairman Adam Pearson is facing a major fight over the coming months.
With little in terms of genuine assets to sell or borrow money against, it would appear City's only additional revenue will come through player sales.
But what Mr Pearson has publicly described as "18 months of reckless transfer market business" will make that a huge challenge indeed.

Ever since City first filed long-awaited accounts last October – in which auditors initially estimated a potential £23m shortfall should the club be relegated – a huge black cloud has hovered over the club's finances.
Tigers owner Russell Bartlett took action – dismissing chairman Paul Duffen and bringing Mr Pearson back as the man he hoped could get the club back on track.

The mission statement was simple – cut costs and get the finances back in shape.
Although Mr Pearson has done it once before – this time appears to have been more like mission impossible.
Left with an ageing team struggling to find a win, Mr Pearson has previously spoken of being astonished to discover the club had one of the Premier League's highest wage bills and a squad of almost 40 professionals.
His first call was to warn fans to expect no new signings in January – but to expect many players to leave. Unfortunately though, try as he might, Mr Pearson could not move players on.

The blunt assessment would be that the majority were just not good enough to attract interest, meaning only a few fringe players left on permanent deals, plus a few on loan.
And with the club now staring possible relegation in the face, Mr Pearson still has an annual wage bill of nearly £39m to contend with.
The latest club accounts, filed earlier this month, show that despite the chairman's best efforts over the past six months, little has changed.
And many would agree with the chairman that poor player recruitment over that 18-month period has left it in a woeful position.
As of July 2009 – City still owed other clubs more than £12.8m for players bought during their first Premier League season.
That included the likes of Bullard, £2.5m signing Anthony Gardner and £2m signing Steven Mouyokolo.
But such a issue didn't appear a matter of concern at that time, as Mr Duffen and manager Phil Brown went on a very public pursuit of Real Madrid striker Alvaro Negredo.
At the time, City claimed to have had a club record bid, this time of £12m, accepted. Possibly luckily, on that occasion, the player turned down a move to the Tigers.

But City's spending went on, as Stephen Hunt for £3.5m and Seyi Olofinjana for £3m, joined the club, again on deals where payments would be staggered over a period of time.
Surprisingly though, the club sold star man Michael Turner for a net £2.8m, but rapidly followed this by agreeing a loan deal for Stoke's Ibrahima Sonko, which equated to a financial commitment of £2m over the season in a £500,000 initial payment to Stoke, plus wages of £30,000 a week until the end of June.

With City understood to still owe about £10m on players today, another year in the top flight would allow time to clear debts.
But should they be relegated, it appears Mr Pearson could be fighting a losing battle off the field also.
An apparent failure to include relegation clauses in players' contracts appears to be the major stumbling block to cutting the wage bill, experts say.
It means City are committed to paying Premier League salaries should they drop a division, even though money coming into the club will fall by about £30m.
The only realistic option could be a "fire-sale" of stars well below their values, with the Tigers possibly still part-paying their wage after they have moved on.
See today's Mail for a full analysis on Hull City's financial situation, including:

* How player transfers have led to the club facing difficulty balancing the books

* What auditors warned the Tigers

* What administration means

Dazzar86

April 23rd, 2010, 12:39 PM

Tigers take parachute cash, Mail understands
Friday, April 23, 2010, 08:59
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Hull City have already received part of the parachute payment due to the club should they be relegated, the Mail understands.

It comes as reports have today suggested City's debts may now be as high as between £30m-£40m.

With a wage bill of £38.9m, City are thought to be facing the threat of administration should they be relegated from the Premier League, as reported by the Mail earlier this month.

And the Mail understands that, with relegation looming, City have already received around £10m of the £16m they would be due next season should they lose top-flight status. If they drop down, they are entitled to £16m for each of the next two seasons.

Earlier this month, the Mail reported how City's debts were throught to have climbed to £25m.

Figures reported on BBC Radio Humberside today suggest City's debt level may now stand at around £35m. However, that may take account of the £10m of Premier League parachute payments the Mail understands to have been taken in advance of a possible drop into the Championship.

Chairman Adam Pearson and owner Russell Bartlett have not been available to comment on the matter.

It is thought board meetings next week will focus on how to manage the club's financial situation, particularly if City are effectively relegated at the weekend.

Pearson is reported to be in favour of taking the club into a Company Voluntary Arrangement (CVA), in a bid to manage its debts.

Such a move would be aimed at getting a majority of those owed money to agree to accept a proportion of what they are owed. It allows a company more time to pay off its debts, and protects them from creditors.

Unlike going into administration, which would see control of the club handed over entirely to insolvency experts, a CVA would also allow Bartlett and Pearson to maintain control, with the support of an insolvency company.

Bartlett, who has never given an in-depth media interview since taking over the club in 2007, is thought to be keen to “trade through” the difficulties.

When the Mail spoke to him briefly last week, he said reports and speculation about the club's financial situation were “not helpful” as the Tigers continued to fight for survival.

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From 'daring to dream' to 'living the dream' to 'Duffen spending too much on the dream!'

...If Duffen ever sets foot in Hull again, I will throw him off the Humber Bridge!

Kingston Upon Hull

April 23rd, 2010, 03:57 PM

Dazzar86

April 23rd, 2010, 04:55 PM

Kingston Upon Hull

April 24th, 2010, 03:29 AM

Because the club would get £100 million from staying in the Prem through TV money, which is given to the Premier League and Football League to distribute amongst clubs by Sky. If City stay up, the club would simply just get £90million instead of £100m.

Forget advance payments i still believe City are capable of staying up and move forward at the expence of west spam.

Kingston Upon Hull

April 24th, 2010, 03:38 AM

And there is 9 points to play for 2 games at home and Wigan away.

And west spam are shite win tomorrow it's all on, plus City should beat a very below average team in sunderland who are already planning there summer holidays.

Dazzar86

April 24th, 2010, 11:32 AM

Yeah but that little oik, Campbell will be out to prove a point now he's finally learnt how to find the back of the net after 2 seasons in the Prem. He'll be going all out to bag a few. West Ham have Wigan at home. If West Ham win today, and City lose, we're relegated due to goal-difference.

up the tigers

April 24th, 2010, 07:46 PM

Well there we go. Relegation all but confirmed:ohno:. We deserve it though, todays performance was abysmal and at times i had to convince myself us and Sunderland were actually in the same league.

Hopefully we'll have more to be positive about next season. However as other ex-premiership sides have shown it definately wont be easy.

Kingston Upon Hull

April 27th, 2010, 12:06 PM

Next few months are going to be very difficult but after (hopefully) the merceneries have left the club the club can take a stab at the Championship.

Team to start next year.

Duke-Dawson-Gardner-Cooper-McShane-Cairney-Bullard- Halmosi-Fagan-Ghilas-Cullen.

I'd be surprised if anyone buys Bullard unless he takes a massive pay cut and then most likely be offered only a one year contract.

Myself and my girlfriend will be buying season passes for next season in a proper division.

The people of Hull deserve so much more than the dross those overpaid players have been delivering for 16 months.

The club will have learn't so much just hope it gets another crack at the Prem one day but in truth the Prem is a horrible league and without a big backer very hard to achieve anything other than survival and if not crippiling debts.

Dazzar86

April 27th, 2010, 12:58 PM

Change Ghilas for Folan and Bullard for Olofinjana and I think that'll be the squad, with one or two freebies and loans from other clubs. Someone will take a punt on Bullard - he's been linked with about 5 clubs since Saturday :lol:

I think one of Cousin or Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink will stay with the club.

Mendy has a release clause, Geo will command a fee, Halmosi and Ghilas will get pre-season to impress whoever is the manager.

Myhill, Bullard, Hunt, Zayatte and Mouyokolo will all be sold IMO for decent-ish fees.

I will be paying on the gate next season as I can't afford to renew my season pass :(

Kingston Upon Hull

April 27th, 2010, 02:08 PM

Bushy_Badger

April 29th, 2010, 09:58 AM

It's not April the 1st it it?

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/172116/Hull-to-escape-punishment

THE Football League admitted last night that they are powerless to act should Hull City exploit a loophole by going into administration within the next 10 days.

The Daily Express has discovered that because of a difference in insolvency policies between the Premier League and the Football League, Hull would start next season on a level playing field provided they call in administrators by 4.50pm on Sunday week. And this is a situation which the club know all about.

The Football League changed the rules in 2007 to say that a club entering administration after the fourth Thursday in March would receive their points deduction the following season. But the Premier League did not change their deadline of “the conclusion of the final game of the season” – giving Hull a chance to slip through the net.

The Football League’s lawyer assessed what might happen after Hull were effectively relegated on Saturday and concluded that the failure of the Premier League to act three years ago means that Hull might not be punished in the Championship if the club had already been deducted nine points while still in the Premier League.

Had they acted fast enough, the board could even have retained control of the club while clearing a swathe of their debt without penalty via a company voluntary arrangement (CVA) – and still kept their points next season.

Talks are ongoing between chairman Adam Pearson with creditors and an announcement on future plans for the club is expected within the next 24 hours.

legolamb

April 29th, 2010, 07:45 PM

A CVA is looking like an ideal option now.

Pearson and Bartlett retain control, no points deduction and the debts get cleared.

What's the catch?

Well, going into a CVA isn't a problem, but then making sure all creditors are in agreement as to the amount they are paid, and then being paid that amount in full in a timely manner to allow the club to get OUT of the CVA is the issue. As far as I know, this carries a 17 point penalty.

Also, what happens if the Football League refuse to accept our application to join the league because we have taken these measures?

Bushy_Badger

June 7th, 2010, 03:18 PM

City finally confirm Adidas as new kit manufacturers.

http://www.hullcityafc.net/page/NewsDetail/0,,10338~2065805,00.html

Dazzar86

June 7th, 2010, 03:38 PM

City finally confirm Adidas as new kit manufacturers.

http://www.hullcityafc.net/page/NewsDetail/0,,10338~2065805,00.html

Any updates yet, Bushy?

Oh, and here is that template as a City shirt;

http://i43.tinypic.com/21e7zau.jpg

http://i44.tinypic.com/igyu7t.jpg

Well, I was two and a bit months early :lol:

I've seen people stating on football forums who have seen my above mock-ups and said they've shown them to people close to the club and they've been told my mock-ups aren't far away from the real thing (apparently).

Kingston Upon Hull

June 7th, 2010, 03:41 PM

I expect Hull City to get promoted.

Yea the likes of Hunt, Geo will go but they is enough quality in the team to bonce straight back up.

The Championship is a very very poor division

Kingston Upon Hull

June 7th, 2010, 03:42 PM

Well, I was two and a bit months early :lol:

I've seen people stating on football forums who have seen my above mock-ups and said they've shown them to people close to the club and they've been told my mock-ups aren't far away from the real thing (apparently).

Your design looks really nice mate.

Bushy_Badger

June 7th, 2010, 05:08 PM

Dazzar86

June 7th, 2010, 06:13 PM

With central club and adidas logo says the man who knows his stuff on Amber Nectars site.

That's because some are suggesting it is the same as Newcastle's last season. But what I don't get is why would we have a season old template?

The kits above are the pics that people are saying club staff have seen and hinted at them being close.

But then, stripes are stripes, so it could be close with the Newcastle one too, lol.

I did a mock up of the Newcastle shirt design too.

http://i48.tinypic.com/v5eqtc.jpg

Chris (Newcastle)

June 8th, 2010, 04:26 PM

http://i43.tinypic.com/21e7zau.jpg

Delighted to see Hull City in Adidas - shame we couldn't wear it in the Premier League, but in reality I think the financial melt-down might not be far off with Man Utd and Liverpool in terrible trouble. Apparently the Bundesleague has just displaced the Premier League as the most profitable in the world and the German clubs spending is related to income and turnover - not sugar-daddies.

A time out in the Championship might turn out to be as important as our promotion in terms of stopping the clubs debt turning into Newcastle / Portsmouth / West Ham proportion. I'd love to see city rebuild with homegrown players and challenge for promotion again.

I never thought I'd see those unforgettable days when Hull city won at Wembley and went joint top of the Premier League in my lifetime.

That's a cracking mock-up Dazzar - I like my tigers in stripes. I've both the previous kits

Kingston Upon Hull

June 17th, 2010, 12:04 PM

Fixtures are out.

http://www.hullcityafc.net/page/Fixtures/0,,10338,00.html

And for us too

http://www.seagulls.co.uk/page/Fixtures/0,,10433,00.html ;)

Bushy_Badger

June 17th, 2010, 01:52 PM

And for us too

http://www.seagulls.co.uk/page/Fixtures/0,,10433,00.html ;)

"Who are ya?" ;)

legolamb

June 29th, 2010, 03:09 PM

Welcome aboard Nigel.

UP THE TIGERS!!

Tigers Name New Boss
Posted on: Tue 29 Jun 2010
Hull City AFC is delighted to confirm Nigel Pearson as the Club's new manager.

The 46-year-old has signed a three-year contract with the Club and will begin work immediately to get the squad prepared for the 2010/11 season.

Nigel arrives at Hull City following a highly successful two-year period as manager of Leicester City during which he guided them to the League One title and then the Championship Play-Offs the following season. He had previously performed successfully during managerial spells with Carlisle United and Southampton and has developed a reputation as one of the top managers in the country.

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The Club would also like to welcome Craig Shakespeare and Steve Walsh to the KC Stadium. Both men will be assisting Nigel in the roles of Assistant Manager and First Team Coach/Chief Scout respectively.

Craig was Nigel's assistant at Leicester and previously worked alongside him on the coaching staff at West Bromwich Albion while Steve worked in the roles of assistant and Head of Recruitment at the Walkers Stadium. He was previously Chief Scout for Chelsea and Newcastle United.

We would like to formally welcome all three to the Club and are confident of their future success with Hull City. Our thanks go to Leicester City for their cooperation during recent negotiations and for their assistance in reaching an amicable settlement.

Speaking about the appointment, Tigers Head of Football Operations Adam Pearson said: "We are delighted to welcome a manager of Nigel's experience and calibre to the club. We feel it is a real coup for Hull City and that Nigel is the best man to mould the existing squad into a competitive Championship team.

"Nigel had two outstanding seasons at Leicester City and I feel sure this experience and winning formula will ensure the very best chance of bringing success back to the club.

Bushy_Badger

June 29th, 2010, 03:59 PM

Seems a decent and surprising choice in the end.

I was fearing it would be Paul Hart for many a day.

ChrisG (Hull)

July 13th, 2010, 08:06 PM

stumbled across this...

http://www.cwuhull.karoo.net/

rip Boothferry Park

legolamb

July 29th, 2010, 06:15 PM

Here's where we are before the big Kick-off next week, and my starting 11

In:

Nolberto Solano
Craig Harper

Out:

Boaz Myhill
Bernard Mendy
Dean Marney
Jan Venegoor of Hesselink
Stephen Hunt
Kamel Ghilas
George Boateng
Stephen Mouyokolo
Geovanni

Shake it all about:

Duke

Solano Gardner Zayette Dawson

Harper

Bullard Olofinjana

Fagan Halmosi

Cousin

Subs: Oxley, Barmby, Cairney, Cullen, McShane, Atkinson, Devitt

Riki9

July 29th, 2010, 09:06 PM

I would be surprised if Bullard started on the opening day. I would prefer to see Olofinjana and Cairney in the middle. Also, no more lone striker. Please.

legolamb

August 2nd, 2010, 11:04 PM

Hull City: Adam Pearson interview
http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/Hull-City-Adam-Pearson-interview.6451849.jp
Adam Pearson.

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Published Date: 02 August 2010
Hull City chief Adam Pearson is quietly confident and optimistic that new manager Nigel Pearson can deliver success amidst the club's age of austerity.
The Tigers will kick off their Championship campaign in six days time against Swansea at the KC Stadium but with a very different outlook
from the team that meekly surrendered to relegation last season.

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City lost their Premier League status long before the final day of the season and the fall-out of an expensive two-year dynasty has ensured Pearson – brought back to the fold by owner Russell Bartlett – has had a busy summer while the players licked their wounds on holiday.

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Many of those who were unable to keep Hull afloat have since departed as Pearson hacked away into a reported £35m deficit and, after a period of stabilising, the gloom appears to have lifted around the Humber outfit.

Optimism levels prior to the new campaign have been raised thanks to appointment of former Leicester boss Pearson, who took the Foxes to the play-offs last term just months after guiding them out of League One.

And his namesake Adam, now the club's head of football operations after a boardroom shuffle, is delighted to have recruited a manager he feels can navigate the financial turbulence.

Pearson even hinted at a possible promotion push.

He said: "By bringing Nigel in there's a real air of optimism about the place and we feel as if we've got a very good manager to rebuild the club from top to bottom.

"Nigel's very ambitious and wants to challenge around the play-offs but it could be a steady start and one we build on, so we're not expecting to run away with it or do a Newcastle or anything like that.

"He's obviously someone in the game that's admired and everybody realises what a fantastic job he did at Leicester, but it was very late in the day before we realised it may be a possibility to bring him here.

"Once it became clear Nigel was willing to come we moved heaven and earth to get him.

"At that point we realised we'd got the foot in the door and got a deal to secure someone we feel is one of the best managers in the game."
Hull players returned to pre-season training at the beginning of July and Pearson says the squad are equally pleased with their new boss.

"The feedback from the players of the managerial change has been very positive," Pearson added.

"Having brought a manager in from a play-off club last year, with his backroom team and successful style, it has been a real bonus. The players have come back very positive."

Pearson can now work safely in the knowledge that he and the players alike are happy with the former Sheffield Wednesday defender in charge of football affairs, leaving the supremo to continue working on off-the-field matters.

Despite several top earners moving on, a lot still has to be done to get the club's credit rating back to rude health.

Pearson revealed there are "immediate challenges" on the horizon,
without giving specific details, though he is confident those can be dealt with as he looks to continue the detox of the previous regime.

He went on: "We've managed to get nearly a dozen players out, which has helped us, and we've got a much lighter squad, although we've added two to it (James Harper and Nolberto Solano).

"The situation at the club is we'll consider offers – good offers – and we're obviously not going to be selling players on the cheap.

"But we are still in the market to move players in and out.

"We've taken an enormous amount off the wage bill and we look at every offer as it comes in now.

"The overriding priority of the club is to get out of the financial difficulty it's in and put it back on an even keel.

"There are still certain challenges that are upon us and around us this month and if we can overcome those we can go on with confidence."

Pearson's task of restoring the club's bank balance to parity has an eerie air of familiarity about it, having already saved the Tigers from extinction in his first spell as chairman in 2001.

The club has taken giant leaps forward since then but last year's fallout has given supporters cause for concern, however Pearson says he is relishing his task putting out fiscal fires.

He explained: "It's very much a fresh start. We're trying to clean the club out from top to bottom and get rid of the excess baggage that has built up.

"I'm enjoying it. It's a big challenge to sort it out and one that we're getting stuck into. There are some immediate financial challenges around in the month of August.

"But if we can come through those then we can get the club sorted out."
Winning promotion back to the Promised Land would certainly help the monetary situation, although Pearson is clear no-one at the club is getting carried away.

Transfers – both in and out – could be on the cards before the transfer window slams shut on August 31 and additions would bolster manager Pearson's ability to make his team more competitive.

And with his boardroom counterpart working hard to keep the cash flow steady, Hullensians could be forgiven for looking forward to a promising season.

Regardless of the footballing outcomes, Pearson told the club's faithful to maintain their support in the challenging times.

He declared: "It (the Championship) is a very tough league, a very competitive league.

"There'll be no transfer fees paid, but if there's some free transfers out there or some good loans we can add to the squad then, hopefully, later on in the window we'll be in a stronger position to look at that.

"We're looking to compete and build slowly and get results on the board.

"We've got some good professionals in and there's a great spirit. It's
been strengthened by Nigel and hopefully that spirit will get us the points we need.

"It's a case of sticking together. We need the board, manager, coaches, players and supporters as one and if there's any disharmony between those factions you'll never get anywhere.

"It looks like we'll start with a big crowd against Swansea and, hopefully, with their support we'll get off to a good start."

Kingston Upon Hull

August 11th, 2010, 05:27 PM

Good start for Hull City they looked comfortable add Koren to the mix and a striker i wouldn't be surprised if City go up as Champions not a strong division.

HULL CITY 2 v 0 Swansea City

http://www.hullcityafc.net/page/MatchReport/0,,10338~52631,00.html

legolamb

August 11th, 2010, 05:36 PM

Kingston Upon Hull

August 11th, 2010, 06:03 PM

Things have quitened down on the Jay Simpson front, sadly. I'd love to see us sign him. A fast, powerful striker who can find the net on a regular basis is a must and would be the final part of the jigsaw.

I think we have gone under the radar a bit and agree that we should be considered as real contenders for promotion. I don't want to raise my hopes too much though, and would still be happy with a strong upper mid table finish. Long way to go and a lot can happen over the course of season but in terms of the players at our disposal it's exciting times.

City will go up the core of your team is far too strong not to finish at least in the top 3.

NP is a top manager.

Bos-harper-solano very good Championship signings with a couple of additions you will be far to strong for 95% of the teams in this division.

I'm in London with work till Monday so will go watch your lads at Millwall will sit in the Millwall end and wont say a f...... word when you score

i aint stupid :lol:

you will go up mate seriously :)

up the tigers

August 11th, 2010, 10:27 PM

I'm not getting carried away yet after just one match. So many results on Saturday went against the form book so i predect it will be again a very open division with anyone capable of putting together a good winning run.

But it was a great performance by city. some of the passing in midfield was premiership quality.

Kingston Upon Hull

August 16th, 2010, 12:11 PM

Some of the worst defending i have seen for a long Solano (slow) Zayette & Gardner 9shocking) Dawson (poor full back play)

Millwall 4 v 0 HULL CITY

http://www.hullcityafc.net/page/MatchReport/0,,10338~52676,00.html

Dazzar86

August 16th, 2010, 12:43 PM

We need to start playing a recognised striker - Cousin sat on the bench ffs!

Kingston Upon Hull

September 25th, 2010, 09:20 PM

.........................................

Kingston Upon Hull

September 25th, 2010, 09:21 PM

Norwich City 0 v 2 HULL CITY at last an AWAY win

http://www.hullcityafc.net/page/NewsDetail/0,,10338~2165148,00.html

And this is exciting too ;) well for me.

http://www.seagulls.co.uk/page/LeagueTable/0,,10433,00.html

Kingston Upon Hull

October 18th, 2010, 09:58 PM

Mmm interesting

http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/news/HULL-CITY-PICTURE-EXCLUSIVE-Allams-meet-Bartlett-Pearson/article-2769900-detail/article.html

Bushy_Badger

October 19th, 2010, 01:01 PM

I hope this goes ahead, he seems like a decent chap and has given away millions to other local establisments like Hull University over the years.

http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/sport/HULL-CITY-sale-Tigers-edging-closer/article-2771405-detail/article.html

HULL City owner Russell Bartlett is today considering a formal takeover offer from two local multi-millionaire businessmen which will see them plough £12m cash into the club immediately, the Mail understands.

Assem Allam and his son Ehab made their formal offer for City in a two-hour face-to-face meeting with Bartlett at their business premises in Melton yesterday.

Today, the Mail can exclusively reveal their bid is being backed by another unnamed prominent local businessman, who is willing to inject extra cash into the club.

A well-placed source at City has also told the Mail current head of football operations Adam Pearson, who attended yesterday’s meeting as a mediator, has indicated he is also willing to invest.

He would put a “significant amount” of his own cash in to support the Allams' bid because he is keen to see the club back in the hands of local owners.

The Allams' money would be used to immediately pay off some outstanding debts and buy players in the January transfer window.

As the Mail first revealed yesterday, the deal would see the Allams agree to take over all club debts, presently thought to be about £20m.

This would mean Bartlett would no longer need to guarantee City’s liabilities against his personal wealth.

It comes after a dramatic day yesterday iin which City’s financial future was played out in the media spotlight.

Firstly, just hours after the Mail revealed the Allams were making a renewed bid for the club, these pictures of Bartlett and Pearson were captured as they left the meeting and published on our website.

Then, Egyptian-born Allam chose to speak publicly of his desire to take over for the first time in television and radio interviews.

The Allams, who have amassed a £150m fortune through their highly-successful diesel generator manufacturing business, had invited Bartlett to officially discuss their offer in writing last week.

In agreeing to meet, Bartlett now appears to be prepared to take their proposals seriously, having dismissed an approach from them in January of this year.

Although sources say the City owner was clearly unhappy with the media circus of yesterday’s meeting, discussions were set to continue today as the Allams seek to close the deal.

If they are unsuccessful, the Mail understands Bartlett is considering another option which would see City’s present debts transferred to potential American interests.

But concerns have already been raised that this move could see former Leeds United chairman Peter Ridsdale drafted in to run the club on their behalf.

That would be a hugely unpopular move with fans given his track record at Leeds, Barnsley and Cardiff City.

Speaking for the first time about his bid last night, Allam said he believed the Tigers needed a local owner who was doing their best for the region and the future of the club.

Asked what he would bring, the 70-year-old said: “A little more financial stability, relieve the pressure of creditors and provide cash for future investment.

“The club needs a cash injection to pay the debts, and to relieve the pressure and also need cash as working capital to acquire new players, if they want to.

“They really need to get out of the financial pressure and concentrate on the future of football.”

When contacted by the Mail last night, Bartlett confirmed he had been happy to meet the Allams but would not indicate how the meeting had unfolded or whether or not he felt there was a possibility of a deal being struck.

The club has made no official statement on the matter at all.

Peter Wilkinson, Pearson’s previous silent partner at the Tigers, is not involved in the Allam bid

Kingston Upon Hull

October 19th, 2010, 03:10 PM

Chris (Newcastle)

October 19th, 2010, 04:16 PM

I wonder who the "other unnamed prominent local businessman" is?

Bushy_Badger

October 19th, 2010, 04:53 PM

Ps is this the guy who gave over a million to Hull University?

He certainly is.

http://www2.hull.ac.uk/news_and_events-1/news_archive/2009_news_archive/august/hull_entrepreneur_donates.aspx

Hull entrepreneur donates £1.5m to the University
Leading Hull entrepreneur Mr Assem Allam, who is a supporter and benefactor of the University of Hull, has donated funds of £1.5m to the University to establish a new bio-sciences research centre - the Allam Institute.

The donation will yield almost £3m with the inclusion of Gift Aid and matched funding support from the Higher Education Funding Council.

The Institute will, in the first instance, focus on bio-medical imaging - a field in which the University has considerable expertise. Over the last decade the University has stimulated internationally recognised research into the use of Magnetic Resonance Imaging, the development of 3-D computer simulation work leading to the spin-out company “Vertual” for the training of hospital radiographers, and more recently work to develop a Positron Emission Tomography (PET) scanner activity based at the Daisy Centre of the Castle Hill Hospital, Cottingham.

The Daisy Centre will work closely with the Allam Institute undertaking clinical aspects and the Institute will specifically concentrate on the fundamental scientific research into new agents for PET investigative work.

Egyptian-born Assem Allam is one of Hull’s most successful entrepreneurs; his business Allam Marine is a global manufacturer and supplier of generators and was awarded the Queen’s Award for Enterprise in 2006. He was also named the Ernst and Young UK Entrepreneur of the Year in 2006. Earlier this year, the Times valued Mr Allam’s business at £97m and he was also identified in their Rich List as one of the 25 biggest risers of 2009.

Mr Allam said: “It is with great pleasure that the Allam family will be associated with such an important area of research as Positron Emission Tomography Imaging. The donation will enable the University to continue to advance in a field that will benefit the nation for many years to come.”

up the tigers

October 20th, 2010, 02:43 PM

One of the worst performances i've seen last night from city. Absolutely clueless. I really thing the players are doubting their own abilities which makes them scared to mount any meaningful attack. In the first half we had the majority of the posession but that doesnt matter unless you convert it into attempts/goals.

The best thing is that the next home match is on Saturday so not long to wait until things are hopefully put right.

legolamb

October 20th, 2010, 10:52 PM

First game of the season this saturday, so I hope to see a better performance than I've been hearing about.

Think we could really do with an injection of cash for team strengthening by January, but it shouldn't be panic stations yet. Apart from QPR who are really flying the old cliche 'anybody can beat anybody' seems to have been invented for this years championship.

Still think we've got the quality to turn things around, but this poor run has taken me by surprise. There can be no more excuses about the team needing time to gel.

Bushy_Badger

October 21st, 2010, 05:42 PM

Wagg

November 10th, 2010, 10:51 AM

Taken over last night by Allams

Bushy_Badger

November 10th, 2010, 02:09 PM

Taken over last night by Allams

:banana::banana:

A quote frm the Yorkshire Post.

"For the time being, it is important to stress to everyone, especially the supporters of Hull City, that we see our role as bringing financial stability to the club to help clear the outstanding debts and to enable it to survive and flourish."

"Our strengths are in business expertise and financial management. We will leave the football decisions to those who know best."

On last nights game I thought city played well first half last night but was up against it from the start of the 2nd half. A good point in the end and a very vocal away follwing too.

albionfagan

November 11th, 2010, 06:03 PM

Apparently he wants to expand the KC to 40,000 nad make it under £10 a ticket :?

legolamb

November 11th, 2010, 07:42 PM

He said £5 for women and children :nuts:

A 40,000 seat stadium is what we would have had if that nob head Trevor Brooking had not rescinded on the necessarry funding from his organisation Sport England saying that e would never fill it. We would in the prem. Easy.

As Allam has already made clear - we are East Yorkshire's club after all - with proven sustained attendances even in the lower leagues at BP throughout the 1940's, 50's, 60's and 70's. It can't even be argued that that sort of support is dormant anymore after filling the KC for a couple of years after a long and steady increase in attendances and season pass sales throughout this century (with an impressively small dip after relegation). I'm convinced that if we had a ground that big it would have been filled for 90% of games in our first season in the top flight. Even more with the sort of prices Allam is reckoning on.

LINCS OWL

November 11th, 2010, 08:08 PM

Hull

November 11th, 2010, 08:11 PM

So he does want to expand the kc?

And does any one know if the hotel and buissnes development is still on track?

prezza

November 11th, 2010, 09:04 PM

What proven sustained support in the lower divisions? Hull City recorded some shocking attendances at Boothferry Park. 2,059 against Newport in 80-1 for instance. I've been there a few times with under 5,000 present. For a city the size of Hull, attendances were woeful.

That is a cheap shot ...2059 against newport!..hardly surprising I remember the day well...the game was called off at 2.00 we went home only to find out the ref had changed his mind!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We have had massive crowds down the years apart from lean times at a run down ground...build it and they will come...and they have.

legolamb

November 11th, 2010, 09:15 PM

Erm.. I never mentioned the 80's or 90's did I?

A time when BP's capacity was well down - especially during the year you mention thanks to the scandalous demolition of the North stand. Anyway, the figures for much of the 80's and 90's are partly forgiveable. I can't think of any club that have had regular crowds over 10'000 after nearly 100 years of no top flight football, no trophies and the regular threat of going out of existence.

albionfagan

December 28th, 2010, 09:24 PM

Very disappointed not to win, thought we were the best side for the majority of the game, hit the post twice and played some wonderful football at times. The referee got a hell of a lot of stick off the crowd, mostly deserved because of his incositency in booking players but he definitely made the right decision in not giving us a pen because the lad got the ball and it was outside the box, still the lino ballsed up giving it and why we didn't end up getting a corner was bemusing. Great save by mannone from their pen but at 1-0 it was always a dangerous place and they snatched a point late on. Ashbee and Harper were particularly impressive for us, Harper's goal was wonderful.

Ahh well we've been lucky to come away with points in many games this season can't complain too much. Good crowd of just shy 22k as well, let's hope New Year brings good fortune.

Hull

December 29th, 2010, 12:13 PM

Am I right about hearing the new owner wants to extend the kc stadium to 40,000 and let the stadium hold concerts again?

Dazzar86

January 10th, 2011, 02:12 PM

Allams 'want to buy KC Stadium': Council leader open to talks on possible sale

Hull City owners Assem and Ehab Allam at the KC Stadium.
THE owners of Hull City want to buy the KC Stadium from the council, the Mail can reveal.

Ehab Allam and his father Assem completed a £40 million takeover of the club shortly before Christmas.

Now, the family say they want to buy the stadium with a view to expanding its seating capacity from 25,000 to 38,000.

Council leader Carl Minns has told the Mail he would agree to "discussions" with the Allams.

If a sale was agreed, the businessmen – who are worth a reported £180 million – would own a major city asset.

Ehab said: "Our plan, long-term, is to acquire the KC Stadium from the council – not lease it.

"We have not yet had chance to get stuck into the nitty gritty details, but that is our aspiration.

"We do not know if the council are prepared to sell."
Continues...

http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/news/ALLAMS-WANT-BUY-KC-STADIUM/article-3080295-detail/article.html?

Hull

January 10th, 2011, 08:10 PM

I would be in favour of this but.. What would happen with the money? Would it be invested into something else?

When birmingham had a cash windfall they invested in a new central library.

Now Leeds has had a cash windfall they are investing in a new arena

livin' hull

January 10th, 2011, 08:32 PM

Hull

January 11th, 2011, 10:05 AM

The kc stadium could be used as a concert venue. The stadium of light in Sunderland holds massive events such as take that (I'm not a fan but the girlfriend likes them). Both stadiums are, if the kc is extended the same size on average so why not host big events.

Wagg

January 11th, 2011, 10:40 AM

prezza

January 11th, 2011, 10:16 PM

Hull will have hugh windfall, labour will be elected (due to coalition govt) and they'll spend it all on double glazing for council houses due for demolition!

(oops sorry my mistake that was last time!)

personally I'm shocked to read the KC costs HCC money - it should be generating a profit at the very least...

Apparently it costs thousands just to put a game on at the KC hence no money to the Council via the terms of the agreement which by the way sounds like the most bizarre lease i have ever heard of. If the Council were making any money it would be to the detriment of City or fc and that wasnt ever the plan...as far as i am aware itis working as expected. One thing is for sure though, under the local council there will be no money EVER spent again on the KC and a few bits of maintenance required are already appearing.

Dazzar86

January 13th, 2011, 03:21 PM

Forgot to mention what Adam Pearson said about the Allam's wanting to buy the KC at the OSC meeting I was at the other night, he said:

KC stadium buyout would be funded as a self-running business, they believe it'd be a great investment if run correctly and soo many years down the line will pay itself off.
I missed the start - I set off 30 mins before it started and couldn't find the pub, but from what I can make out, the 'major sporting event' the Allam's have spoken of, is a Rugby League international and they're also finalising a deal for a musical act to perform at the KC which should be sorted by Friday - AP said to keep everyone guessing, but it's an international reknowned act, but it'd be more for people's teenage daughters interests more than any others (I've since been told it's apparently JLS).

They said the Allam's are in talks with the council to host a festival next summer at the KC to celebrate 10 years of the KC.

Mark Maguire (the bloke City got in from Stockport was there too/finance and commercial director) said he'd had a walk around the stadium with Ehab yesterday and their two major pointers were Walton St car park and the grassy wasteland from the railway bridges - they want to do something with both if the Allam's can buy the stadium. MMg said the worry from the council was that if the Allam's had control of the land too, they may not allow Hull Fair to happen - as they'd own the carpark - and Hull Fair has been coming to Hull since the 1200's.

Hull

January 13th, 2011, 07:14 PM

Fantastic. The kc has always had the oppertunity to host major music events. Brings a chain reaction, hotels, restaurants etc....

Pippin0490

January 13th, 2011, 07:49 PM

I'm all for tradition, but I honestly think East Park would be better suited for Hull Fair now-a-days.

Hull

January 13th, 2011, 07:50 PM

Or somewhere on the outskirts of hull. Well my opinion

Pippin0490

January 13th, 2011, 07:51 PM

Or somewhere on the outskirts of hull. Well my opinion

Anlaby Common?

Hull

January 13th, 2011, 07:55 PM

mm possibly is there any where close to the park and ride site?

Pippin0490

January 13th, 2011, 07:58 PM

To be honest i'm not sure where the Park n Ride site is, not being able to drive and the like.

legolamb

January 13th, 2011, 08:13 PM

Springhead Golf Course!

legolamb

January 13th, 2011, 08:15 PM

Around the pond in Swanland Village Centre?

livin' hull

January 13th, 2011, 10:13 PM

Move Hull fair? Judging by the people that go - somewhere in north hull would suffice!

Pippin0490

January 13th, 2011, 10:19 PM

Move Hull fair? Judging by the people that go - somewhere in north hull would suffice!

:lol:

Bushy_Badger

January 14th, 2011, 12:17 AM

Move Hull fair?

May I suggest Leeds.

livin' hull

January 14th, 2011, 12:37 AM

thing is does the walton st car park come as part of the KC or is it part of west park ? If it does belong to the KC then what becomes of it for 6 days out of 7 ? would you (if you owned it) really want it stood empty ? would it make more financial sense to build a small multistorey in say 1 corner and sell the rest of the land off ?
as for the other land - its and interesting size BUT has really bad access without major work - would any new development here get approved without new access roads (along the railway line from walton street?)
anyways thats just my opinion!

pug

January 14th, 2011, 02:51 AM

The council could of course stipulate that the Walton Street area be free for a couple of weeks every year for Hull fair in any contract, assuming the fair ground is on the same land. Or is it just a case of the council fabricating things again?

Wagg

January 14th, 2011, 11:42 AM

if an extension on top of the east stand were to go ahead then the grassy area behind it would have to be sorted as the 4 access towers would have to be built there

GanEden

January 15th, 2011, 04:27 PM

Hull FC will always be the premier club in Hull. End of.

Bushy_Badger

January 15th, 2011, 08:24 PM

Hull FC will always be the premier club in Hull. End of.

FC is the rugby thread mate.

This is how it goes:

City = Hull City AFC
FC = Hull FC
Rovers = Hull Kingston Rovers

Pippin0490

January 18th, 2011, 01:23 PM

Suquondo

January 18th, 2011, 07:17 PM

There is a rumour that the Allams are interested in buying Boothferry Park and turning it into a state of the art training facility for City.

Adam Pearson has confirmed that it is on the shortlist of sites for the new training complex.

what ever happened to the Melton plans? I always thought that area was been looked at to widen the catchment area for their youth policy?

Pippin0490

January 18th, 2011, 08:37 PM

They said that wasn't affordable.

Dazzar86

January 18th, 2011, 09:32 PM

Melton was a deal 'agreed in principal' - when you add '...by Paul Duffen' to that, you see why it was never viable.

The other reason is it won't be a youth academy, it'll be a 'centre of excellence' status, as a youth academy is too costly - registration is a stupid amount and the requirements are stupid, like there has to be 1 pitch for every 5 kids in the youth academy, or something daft like that. imagine paying for 1 pitch per 5 kids! you'd hardly have any kids there, so wouldn't be worth it.

albionfagan

January 20th, 2011, 04:59 PM

Hull FC will always be the premier club in Hull. End of.

Rugby League's had its day in Hull, it was always living off the fact Hull City underachieved and couldn't get support, that's changed.

Suquondo

January 20th, 2011, 06:49 PM

Rugby League's had its day in Hull, it was always living off the fact Hull City underachieved and couldn't get support, that's changed.

forgive me if I am wrong, but I believe the combined season ticket holders who follow Rugby league in this city out number the season ticket holders of Hull city.

Super league is thriving.

legolamb

January 20th, 2011, 07:17 PM

^^ That may be, but Hull city's support is not just confined to a couple of fairly small inner city areas - it is East Yorkshire's team - something which can't be said of either RL team to be fair.

Bushy_Badger

January 20th, 2011, 07:24 PM

forgive me if I am wrong, but I believe the combined season ticket holders who follow Rugby league in this city out number the season ticket holders of Hull city.

Super league is thriving.

Can't see it myself even with city in this division. My Hull FC chum mentioned the other day they have sold 10,000, I would guess at Rovers having 6000. I certainly think city have more then 16,000.

If you compare like for like and league for league (City's Premiership season pass sales) it becomes a no contest.

Not sure why this arguement keeps coming back up, the facts and stats will tell you that the Rugby Clubs have won more silverware then City, but City over the years has pulled in far larger attendances.

prezza

January 20th, 2011, 11:42 PM

forgive me if I am wrong, but I believe the combined season ticket holders who follow Rugby league in this city out number the season ticket holders of Hull city.

Super league is thriving.

yes i forgive you..as yes you are wrong.....why this conversation..this is england we play and follow football...Hull City are clearly the big sports player...and deep down you must know it! back on topic please..we arent at school:ohno:

Dazzar86

January 21st, 2011, 01:58 PM

I go to as many City games as I possibly can, I've been to a fair few rugby games too, but not a great deal. I'll watch it on the tele if it's on.

I usually go to the Hull FC Vs Huddersfield game with my dad and his mate (who is originally from Hudds), each year.

Trying to get in and out of the KC at football is cramped in comparison to the rugby, you get large spaces in the stadium empty at the rugby and half time at the bar is easy to get to at rugby, football takes forever!

When FC Vs KR doesn't even sell out, it shows the city isn't as 'rugby mad' as is made out.

Suquondo

January 22nd, 2011, 02:09 PM

Suquondo

January 22nd, 2011, 02:10 PM

prezza

January 23rd, 2011, 12:33 AM

ok, Football is the national sport, with the bigger attendances. Although on the world stage it is something we are not very successful at. We are probably better at other sports, cycling, rugby union etc.

Rugby league is a northern sport, mainly concentrated on the M62 corridor.
You will find rovers/Hull fc fans anywhere in this area. My cousin is a attending fc fan who lives in york. He also travels to anfield as a season ticket holder.

I attend football matches, both Hull city & Manu, usually wined and dined as a a a guest. i prefare Rugby for the atmosphere, by far. hull city is like a libary some times.

But as for hull being RL mad. The average attendances for both KR/FC combined for 2010 were 22,250.
for this season Hull citys average attendance is 20,093

This is also the highest average attendance in the sport of rugby league

What utter nonsense...all of it...not good at football on the world stage! because of the last world cup when we didnt do that well so what we excel more at the club game ala champions league...mind you try getting in a pub during a world cup when Hull and area goes football crazy with 50k plus in pubs and football parties all over..rl world cup nobody knew it took place. Atmosphere! i have been to rl games and its not a patch on football at all...attendances! adding two clubs attendances when it is v cheap kids season pass less than 1 game at football!!!!!!!!! and lots of city fans who go to rl as well...you have no point to make. Remember the biggest game in 30 years last summer 17k roflmao...Hull is a great sporting City just accept it mind you if you are a man u plastic you will have no idea what being a fan of your local team is about.. All sporting empires end some time!!! :bash:

Suquondo

January 23rd, 2011, 11:37 AM

What utter nonsense...all of it...not good at football on the world stage! because of the last world cup when we didnt do that well so what we excel more at the club game ala champions league...mind you try getting in a pub during a world cup when Hull and area goes football crazy with 50k plus in pubs and football parties all over..rl world cup nobody knew it took place. Atmosphere! i have been to rl games and its not a patch on football at all...attendances! adding two clubs attendances when it is v cheap kids season pass less than 1 game at football!!!!!!!!! and lots of city fans who go to rl as well...you have no point to make. Remember the biggest game in 30 years last summer 17k roflmao...Hull is a great sporting City just accept it mind you if you are a man u plastic you will have no idea what being a fan of your local team is about.. All sporting empires end some time!!! :bash:

Look i was only answering the question of RL of having it's day in Hull.
The facts and figures speak for themselves. Over a season, more or a least equal amounts of citizens of Hull attend the sport of rugby league then they do Hull city football. Fact

The attendance at the Play off game 17,000 was a bit low but if an excuse was to be given it would be that 250000 people where attending another event in the city centre. Freedom I think.

Englands international team are not very good. I agree the Premier League is the best league in the world to watch, but as for champions league we do not excel. 3 winners in 20 years. Fact

Although Hull citys football is an aquired taste I am pleased they get the support they do, including mine at times.

Yes I support Manu, was my local team 30 years ago. Same as my neighbours support Liverpool, chelsea, Arsnal. Not many hull city fans in my area of Hull.

What is your definition of a plastic fan?

A lot of people do watch the world cup in the bars, including me. However it should not be used as a gauge as moref people also watch corrie. (not me).

prezza

January 23rd, 2011, 06:05 PM

Look i was only answering the question of RL of having it's day in Hull.
The facts and figures speak for themselves. Over a season, more or a least equal amounts of citizens of Hull attend the sport of rugby league then they do Hull city football. Fact

The attendance at the Play off game 17,000 was a bit low but if an excuse was to be given it would be that 250000 people where attending another event in the city centre. Freedom I think.

Englands international team are not very good. I agree the Premier League is the best league in the world to watch, but as for champions league we do not excel. 3 winners in 20 years. Fact

Although Hull citys football is an aquired taste I am pleased they get the support they do, including mine at times.

Yes I support Manu, was my local team 30 years ago. Same as my neighbours support Liverpool, chelsea, Arsnal. Not many hull city fans in my area of Hull.

What is your definition of a plastic fan?

A lot of people do watch the world cup in the bars, including me. However it should not be used as a gauge as moref people also watch corrie. (not me).

A plastic fan? easy... someone who lives in Hull suports fc or KR and either man u or liverpoool you know the type by now..some kind of low self esteem exercise in play by all accounts..not many city fans near me! prob says more about where you live...people go out to watch corrie as a mass spectator night/day out do they?? you gravely miss all points...see previous re attendance..would you be happier if City averaged 30 k...we cant..... we are held back by the capacity its maybe rocket science after all..

Pippin0490

January 23rd, 2011, 06:37 PM

The attendance argument is absurd. You're comparing TWO teams attendances to ones.

I'd like to see where you got your statistic for average attendance for rugby as FC got 13,731 last season and KR got 8,234 (see link: http://www.slstats.org/t15/Hull+Kingston+Rovers/) making a total of 21965.

Whereas so far this season City have had 20953 (http://www.football-league.co.uk/page/DivisionalAttendance/0,,10794~20107,00.html)

Also you're comparing two super league teams attendances to a second tier teams attendances. Why not compare to Cities premier league attendances? Which last season was 24,390 (2010, the same year as the stats for KR & FC) Not to mention cities attendances were even higher the previous season. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KC_Stadium#Tenants) Clearly more than BOTH FC & KR.

Suquondo

January 23rd, 2011, 07:29 PM

i was comparing attendances for rugby league v Football in this city. The rugby league attendances at home ( Craven Park/ Kc) v Hull city home, Given this disscussion started as a reply to albionfagan statement. The rugby attendances are home/away on that stats page.
I can only quote the up to date attendance figures, which I have given.Last seasons probally where higher due to the visiting teams attraction.

Prezza your definition of a plastic fan is interesting. By your accounts any football fan that does not support their present local team is a plastic one.

Dazzar86

January 23rd, 2011, 07:30 PM

You're comparing the popularity of football Vs rugby in Hull - they're two different sports! I'm sure if City were in a league of about 10 other teams and couldn't get relegated, so could go 'all or bust' without going bust, then they'd be winning a bit more silverware, fact of the matter is City are competing with 90+ other teams in England alone.

If England football team played even just a friendly at the KC, it would sell out within minutes. If England rugby league side were playing a competative national match for points, I don't even think it would sell out.

City Vs Wigan - cup match:
1 - the same as those cup match tickets in rugby having to be included in the season ticket, otherwise nobody would go?
2 - the league is more important to City now.
3 - We played Wigan in the cup last season too, so wasn't really a tie people were desperate to go see as a change from league games.

You're putting FC and KR's attendances together to make a number Vs City's attendances? - I'm sure if FC and KR formed 1 club their attendances would (rivalries aside) still be 'bigger' than City's.... not.

Dazzar86

January 23rd, 2011, 07:33 PM

Suquondo

January 23rd, 2011, 09:27 PM

dazzar86
In response.

Yes they are different sports, well done. the discussion is partly in response to your 'When FC Vs KR doesn't even sell out, it shows the city isn't as 'rugby mad' as is made out.' quote.

The fact is Hull has the highest attending crowd in the sport of rugby league in the country, 3rd in the world. This average crowd equals/greater than, at this time, the attending support of it's football team (the country's national sport.) This is something Hull should be proud of. The stats show the numbers are increasing.

The national rugby league team has played at the KC and has sold out. It currently stands at 2nd & 3rd in the KC attendance records.
Rugby league is not nationally bigger than football, this forum is Hull & Humber and that's what we are discussing.

i don't know why the wigan game was such a low attendance. I would have thought a cup run was what Hull city would have wanted. My comment was supposed to be tongue in cheek about the spaces at the bar. However your excuse was poor, maybe the definition of a plastic football supporter applies to yourself with that one.

It is not against any law to support a team from any sport in any area or city. if you want to support anyone but City it is your choice, after all it's only entertainment. If you like something you pay to watch it. You would have to ask individuals why they support who they do. wigan, warrington, St helens maybe they do support them, WHAT EXACTLY IS YOUR POINT?

prezza

January 24th, 2011, 02:05 PM

Chris (Newcastle)

January 24th, 2011, 02:27 PM

Chris (Newcastle)

January 24th, 2011, 02:46 PM

Hull FC v Hull KR record attendance is 23,004 Hull-based fans.

Hull City v Liverpool attendance is 25,030 less the away support of 3-4000 making it 21-22,000 Hull based fans.

I'm personally delighted when all 3 teams are doing well thats City, FC and the Stingrays..:lol:

Dazzar86

January 25th, 2011, 07:05 PM

2004-11-20 Great Britain 26–24 New Zealand Attendance: 23,377

2005-11-19 Great Britain 14–26 Australia Attendance: 25,150* Record rugby and KC Stadium attendance for a competitive match.

2010-05-09 Hull City v Liverpool Attendance: 25,030* Record Premier League attendance.

Dazzar the Rugby internationals are well supported in Hull in a community stadium providing cash to Paul Duffen who displayed his business acumen by banning them, only to be £40 million in debt! :ohno: . Looks like Allems know how money is actually made in the real world outside of football. I was in both of the rugby crowds. The second is the KC Stadium record attendance, I believe. :)

Those attendances are from 2004 and 2005 though, when it was probably seen as a big thing. It would be nearer 20k now I bet.

I reckon the upcoming Hull City Vs Leeds Utd game on a cold, wet Tuesday night will be more appealing to people now than an England rugby league game in October.

I suspect if Super League brought back relegation and one of the Hull clubs was relegated, I doubt they'd sustain the amount of crowds that Hull City have managed to after relegation. I barely knew any KR fans when they were in NL1, but now loads of people claim to be lifelong fans.

It's a decent game as I said, I occassionally go to a few games myself, but to suggest it's more popular in the city over football, in 2011, is wide of the mark, IMO.

prezza

January 28th, 2011, 01:18 AM

2004-11-20 Great Britain 26–24 New Zealand Attendance: 23,377

2005-11-19 Great Britain 14–26 Australia Attendance: 25,150* Record rugby and KC Stadium attendance for a competitive match.

2010-05-09 Hull City v Liverpool Attendance: 25,030* Record Premier League attendance.

Dazzar the Rugby internationals are well supported in Hull in a community stadium providing cash to Paul Duffen who displayed his business acumen by banning them, only to be £40 million in debt! :ohno: . Looks like Allems know how money is actually made in the real world outside of football. I was in both of the rugby crowds. The second is the KC Stadium record attendance, I believe. :)

Stats eh !! Hull Citys prem attendances cant be 25404 ie full capacity purely due to segregation...there have been dozens and dozens of sell outs..some games could have sold out twice over such was the demand...Made me think it will be nice to get at least the east tier asap..will help with concerts and probably any future world cup bid too.

Suquondo

January 28th, 2011, 05:36 PM

Dazzar86

January 30th, 2011, 03:16 PM

Suquondo

January 30th, 2011, 04:00 PM

Shouldn't ticket price cost come into consideration too?

It's £255 for an adult pass in the South Stand at Hull FC and prices start from £221 at KR. At Hull City it is over £400 for a season pass in the South Stand - big difference! I know many people who'd love to go to the football but can't afford it.

Then not to mention most football matches are on a Saturday when many people have to work still, yet rugby is usually on a Friday night or Sunday when people are generally more likely to be free to attend.

Just goes to show what value for money you get from Rugby league and that the majority of Hull's sport loving community are switched on and totally agree.
Maybe the city season ticket holders can lodge a complaint with the trading standards and use these figures as an argument of value for money. They can also claim against Hull city as it probably states on their ticket that the product they have paid for should be football.(I argue what they are receiving is not or sometimes a poor substitute.)

Suquondo

January 30th, 2011, 04:13 PM

Stats eh !! Hull Citys prem attendances cant be 25404 ie full capacity purely due to segregation...there have been dozens and dozens of sell outs..some games could have sold out twice over such was the demand...Made me think it will be nice to get at least the east tier asap..will help with concerts and probably any future world cup bid too.

This had me thinking. If the capacity of the KC is 25404, and the highest attendance for a Premier league Game was 25030 (v Liverpool) that leaves a minimum of 374 seats required for segregation. Thus leaving a capacity for a football Home game as 25030. Hull City have not matched this all season so therefore have never sold out.
Before you start screaming i know that the away fans do not take up all of their quota but the empty seats at most of the Home games is the equivalent to the North stand being empty.
If by fa rules city have to provide 2500 away seats this leaves a lot of empty seats with this seasons average attendance.
I think the stadium extension should be put on hold, and if the demand is there, the cash should be spent on ensuring more efficient segregation.
Hull city may only sell out a few games this season, until they get back to the premier league sell outs will be rare.

Pippin0490

January 30th, 2011, 04:26 PM

Tell me, how often do FC sell out the KC?

Dazzar86

January 30th, 2011, 04:36 PM

Just goes to show what value for money you get from Rugby league and that the majority of Hull's sport loving community are switched on and totally agree.
Maybe the city season ticket holders can lodge a complaint with the trading standards and use these figures as an argument of value for money. They can also claim against Hull city as it probably states on their ticket that the product they have paid for should be football.(I argue what they are receiving is not or sometimes a poor substitute.)

What part of me saying I know loads of people who want to go but can't afford it', translates to 'I know loads of people who won't pay those prices'? There is a difference, not being able to afford it means they WANT TO go, but can't afford to. Not paying the prices would be CHOOSING not to go.

People want to, and are happy to pay those prices, when they can afford it.

City's prices are still some of the cheapest in the league. It shows that rugby tickets have to be soo cheap, otherwise they wouldn't get the crowds they do.

prezza

January 30th, 2011, 04:37 PM

This had me thinking. If the capacity of the KC is 25404, and the highest attendance for a Premier league Game was 25030 (v Liverpool) that leaves a minimum of 374 seats required for segregation. Thus leaving a capacity for a football Home game as 25030. Hull City have not matched this all season so therefore have never sold out.
Before you start screaming i know that the away fans do not take up all of their quota but the empty seats at most of the Home games is the equivalent to the North stand being empty.
If by fa rules city have to provide 2500 away seats this leaves a lot of empty seats with this seasons average attendance.
I think the stadium extension should be put on hold, and if the demand is there, the cash should be spent on ensuring more efficient segregation.
Hull city may only sell out a few games this season, until they get back to the premier league sell outs will be rare.

Just why is it every time you have been thinking you come out with nonsense! are you related to Neil Warnock? roflmao
No such FA rule..the capacity differs on the category of game...segregation areas are very large...but lets just say City are fantastically well supported with Citys crowds in the 4th division exceeding any sl crowd.
Tuesday should be good a very a very big game for the City of Kingston upon Hull and the East Riding.

Suquondo

January 30th, 2011, 05:16 PM

What part of me saying I know loads of people who want to go but can't afford it', translates to 'I know loads of people who won't pay those prices'? There is a difference, not being able to afford it means they WANT TO go, but can't afford to. Not paying the prices would be CHOOSING not to go.

People want to, and are happy to pay those prices, when they can afford it.

City's prices are still some of the cheapest in the league. It shows that rugby tickets have to be soo cheap, otherwise they wouldn't get the crowds they do.

Again your opinion mate, no facts to back up what you are saying. Although don't Hull city provide cheap tickets at low attendance games? A practice I am in favour of, rather have people in seats than to be empty.

Just why is it every time you have been thinking you come out with nonsense! are you related to Neil Warnock? roflmao
No such FA rule..the capacity differs on the category of game...segregation areas are very large...but lets just say City are fantastically well supported with Citys crowds in the 4th division exceeding any sl crowd.
Tuesday should be good a very a very big game for the City of Kingston upon Hull and the East Riding.

The leeds game is a massive game, good luck city. It is classed as a sell out so will be interesting to see the attendance.
I was merely answering your statement about games being sold out this season. The truth is they have never been sold out, except tuesday. Your quote was your opinion not fact.
I was under the impression 10 percent of the capacity was for segregation. Hull city allocates the category of the game. If the away side don't sell their quota the allocation can be reduced.
I just thought rather then call for stadium expansion, maybe they should use what they have and try to fill it.