oh yeah forgot about bonsai. bonsai isnt bad, i quite enjoyed it when i went with my dad 6 or so months ago. the fact i havent gone back probably speaks volumes in a sense. i guess if im paying twice the amount per head as i would at sakura or jun and 3 times what i pay at nao i want to be wowed and here i enjoyed the modernish take on jap food but it didnt wow me, if that makes sense

certainly not a bad place though, worth adding to the list for izza, depending on what he's looking for

there is also arigataya on roe st for ramen etc but in all honesty nao is so much better and only 5 mins walk away on murray st it seems silly to include it in the list

Did anyone read Inside Cover today? Dean Cox should be our next premier.

especially with his finance expertise.

what did it say?

Thanks dudes:-D im in a bit if a Japanese fad atm

no probs, hope you enjoy!

so, it's my dads 60th bday party this weekend, he decided he wanted to have a lunch at home just with family and very close friends. check out the menu, i think it's going to be pretty awesome

entrees
scallop dish, prob something simple like garlic butter in half shell
bbq banana or tiger prawn with mango salsa
quesadilla with jalapenos and cheese
some kind of tostada
goat chops with chermoula or chimichurri
a corn dish i cant think of at the moment
either chorizo in cider sauce or bruschetta with sobrassada paste, fetta and pickled shallots

mains
we're going for quite a mexican theme, make your own tacos type thing with a few extras. going to be proper mexican too (if it goes to plan), ive hunted down all the ingredients including the corn tortillas, tomatillos, guajillo, ancho, new mexico, chipotle and other dried chillis
- braised chicken adobo type dish
- either bbq butterflied leg of lamb or birria which is a mexican goat stew
- veg option
- salad
- bbq spiced corn
- all the necessary condiments like hot sauces, salsa verde, pico de gallo

grilled watermelon with chilli salt and lime as a palate cleanser

cakes from sherbet and martineus plus my brothers brownies for dessert


all with awesome booze


im seriously excited about it, going to be brilliant

impressive. Didn't know you could cook :P

im only cooking a couple of things. the rest are being cooked by a friend who's a chef, i think he'll have one other guy helping to cook and 1 serving.

i came up with most of the menu though, i think it will work quite well together

my dad's a pretty relaxed and casual guy so didnt want anything formal, the shared dishes will suit the atmosphere

we decided it was much better to do something like this in the comfort of our home instead of spending the same amount of cash (probably more) having a lunch out in a restaurant

ok, spill the beans on where to get some of those funky hard-to-find Mexican ingredients in Perth (been wanting to try to make proper Mexican instead of just stuff that comes from boxes labeled "Old El Paso" but have never found any recipes that dont use ingredients I cant get)

Nice Sanj. Should be awesome.

jon - ive bought stuff from www.fireworksfoods.com.au www.herbies.com.au , spanish flavours in mt hawthorn and also the grocer in claremont

if i had been better organised i could have bought everything from 1 or 2 places max. www.montereyfoods.com.au is another place with a number of mexican items

fireworks manufactures their own tortillas including a pack of 12 corn ones for only $2.95. for a smaller party i would have made the tortillas as ive got a press for it and they taste better but for 40 people i couldnt be bothered as im off to brisbane again the morning after the party and have a busy few days ahead of me

A statement from everyone's bff Barry Sargeant on the RGL facebook page..

A note from the Director General on applying for a liquor licence

Disappointed applicants and commentators on liquor licensing decisions often do not understand why an apparent good idea for a “bar” is not approved by the liquor licensing authority.
While decisions of the licensing authority are governed by the Liquor Control Act 1988, an Act comprising some 320 pages, they are also governed by precedent decisions of the Supreme Court of Western Australia, with the Director of Liquor Licensing subject to further precedent decisions of the Liquor Commission. Accordingly, licensing authority decisions must be evidentiary based with each application dealt with on its merits, and all parties to the proceedings being afforded procedural fairness.
Any person has a general right of objection to an application and the Executive Director Public Health, Commissioner of Police and the relevant local authority not only have the right to intervene for the purpose of introducing evidence or making representation in relation to an application, but they may also exercise that right by way of an objection.
The private interest of an applicant wishing to establish a liquor outlet is not to be confused with the public interest. The requirements of the Act are directed at the licensing authority taking a balanced approach to the granting of new applications.
Even if a local authority supports an application, it would be invalid for the licensing authority to simply apply a planning decision made by planning authorities, rather than determining the merits of the application under the Act.
It is not open for the licensing authority to make a finding to grant an application because it would be a good idea based on some general rule that it has formulated for itself on knowledge and experience gained in the determinations of other applications.
As a specialist administrative body in liquor licensing matters, its findings of fact are only entitled to considerable weight when they involve an assessment of relevant issues peculiar to the field of liquor licensing; for example, the availability of liquor supplies, assessment of contemporary standards and accessibility of licensed premises to the public in the proposed locality.
There is an onus of proof for applicants to establish the merit of their application; section 38(2) of the Act states that “an applicant … must satisfy the licensing authority that granting the application is in the public interest.”
The public interest, as ascertained from the scope and purpose of the Act, involves catering for the requirements of consumers of liquor and to have liquor outlets consistent with good order and proprietary in relation to the distribution and consumption of liquor. What is often overlooked is that one of the primary objects of the Act is to regulate the sale and supply of liquor and that the disposition of the Act, read as a whole, is to regulate that good order and proprietary.
The proliferation of liquor outlets is not in the public interest. To increase the number of licensed premises without any real and demonstrable consumer requirement, would represent proliferation without justification.
The licensing authority must also weigh and balance the requirements of consumers against the object of minimising harm or ill-health caused to people, or any group of people due to the use of liquor.
It is a matter for the licensing authority to decide what weight to give to the competing interests and other relevant considerations.
For an applicant to discharge its onus under section 38(2), it must address both the positive and negative impacts that the grant of the application will have on the local community. The Liquor Commission has confirmed that it is not sufficient for applicants to merely express opinions about the perceived benefits of their application without an appropriate level of evidence to support those opinions and assertions.
This means applicants must adduce sufficient evidence to demonstrate the positive aspects of their application, including that the proposed licence will cater for the requirements for consumers for liquor and related services. The Liquor Commission has determined that failing to do this means “… the granting of licences under the Act would become arbitrary and not in accordance with the objects of the Act.” (LC 32/2010: Element WA Pty Ltd)
Furthermore, “...letters of support from business people purporting to speak on behalf of consumers simply does not go far enough to satisfy the Commission that the general public has a requirement for liquor and related services…” (LC 17/2010: Busswater Pty Ltd)
Many applicants and commentators also question why the Director of Liquor Licensing does not provide more guidance and assistance to applicants in the preparation and substantiation of their application.
Expecting the Director to seek further submissions from an applicant to address deficiencies in an application would compromise the impartiality of the Director as an administrative decision maker. If this were the case, would the Director also be expected to seek further information from an objector or intervener to ensure it was sufficiently supported? If such information was provided, would the Director again be expected to approach the applicant to rebut the objection through the provision of further information? In this regard, the Liquor Commission in Harold Thomas James Blakely (LC 44/2010) ruled:
“It is not incumbent on the Director to determine what evidence an applicant should ultimately submit in order to discharge its obligation under s38(2). The licensing authority, however constituted, cannot run an application, objection or intervention on behalf a particular party as this would place the licensing authority in an unsustainable position.”

All I read was wank wank wank.

This is the only part that matters:

The proliferation of liquor outlets is not in the public interest.

Arbitrary.

Actually, no, that's not the only part that matters.

The part about impartiality being compromised if they gave advice to applicants is a nonsense. They could very easily provide advice to both applicants and objectors.

While they say letters in support of an applicant is not enough, there's no clear standard of proof that's required of an applicant to show there's 'public interest'. It's very hard to demonstrate you have a clientele before you open an establishment.

It also promotes stagnation and is anti-competitive to disallow competing venues to open - it's circular logic that you can't open a bar because there are already bars around, since the existence of other bars surely demonstrates there's a public interest in bars?

It sounds a lot like it's a legislative problem, and there needs to be a greater common sense approach to liquor licensing that doesn't involve entrepreneurs having to fight tooth and nail to sell a gin and tonic, and recognises that these traders exist in a 'No' culture that desperately needs to change.

In the end, it looks like its a legislative problem. I suppose the Director of Licensing can't be faulted for doing his job, but like all bureaucrats who perform their functions without any degree of flexibility, they come off looking like total jerks. They're basically bouncers, only they have a big book of rules instead of shaved heads and muscles.

I remember when I applied for a liquor license at my first exhibition. Even asking them over the phone for clarity on a particular element of the application, their response was basically "It's not my job to answer any questions about your application." Eyeroll.

MULTI-POST COMBO ATTACK.

I guess it just really, really, really fucking bugs me that a joint that wants to serve a drink is put through the wringer due to concerns about ill health, but any jerk could open a fatty hot dog & icecream stand for fatties without having to prove there's REALLY a need for it. DEMONSTRATE THE PUBLIC INTEREST IN HOT DOGS AND ICECREAM -- without referring to how much people enjoy eating these foods, that isn't enough!

Imagine if every noodle joint in Northbridge had to prove there was a need for more noodle joints.

1000 groans of great impatience.

^^this. Double standards.

Blanket statements like 'More bars is not in the public interest' really REALLY shit me.

More bars does not necessarily mean higher consumption of liquor.

It means competition.
It means lower prices.
It means a lower density of people in each bar, which means increased comfort for patrons.
The lower density is also likely to make a positive impact on the amount of alcohol related violence.
It means choice for consumers.
It means jobs for people.
It means vibrancy for the city.

NO.
IT IS NOT IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST.

+1 to everything DR has said.

Its not in some peopes interest is the real problem I believe.

More anti-competitive rules setup to keep Perth just as a few like it. Its so transparent.

I'm not so sure about that. Most bar operators would love to see the laws relaxed I believe.

I was walking through the 140W foodhall today and noticed a few more places have closed down. Apart from the Indian and C Express and some sad looking Asian, everything else is boarded up. What a complete F$&K up that place has become.

Hmmm.. I guess they will do something with it eventually. It clearly has no chance with Raine next door. Hopefully they don't do an office conversion though.

The Indian there must be fairly good, always a line there when I sit there and eat my food from outside the food court.

Sucks man. I guess elevating a food hall when you've got cafes at ground level was a shitty move.

tha biggest booze hounds on earth belong to rgl... often found boozing at hyatt plain st bar...

The Indian there must be fairly good, always a line there when I sit there and eat my food from outside the food court.

that's pretty much the only place doing decent turnover. If you think about it apart from the shit outlets everything about that foodhall was wrong. Lighting, layout, position all wrong!

that's pretty much the only place doing decent turnover. If you think about it apart from the shit outlets everything about that foodhall was wrong. Lighting, layout, position all wrong!

I don't think theres anything particularly wrong with it really. Its just has shit food - simple.

Put a couple of decent places there and it would be fine.

All I read was wank wank wank.

All I read was "I know better than you"

Sucks man. I guess elevating a food hall when you've got cafes at ground level was a shitty move.

I didn't even know there was a food court there. I think that a ground floor location, much more visible, would have done a lot better as there isn't really a great deal of good places to eat in the actual mall. They're all pretty shit.

It may do well with a few good outlets (this is perth after all) but it doesn't take away the fact the it's poorly designed.

Carillion is a shocking food court but people flock to it. Just needs something well known and suburban to attract people to 140W.

Carillion has fast food joints to attract a bunch of people too. If you put a McDonalds up in that food court I guarantee you it would be full at all times.

Mostly with delinquent school kids, but whatever.

I think the problem with 140w is that the things it offered weren't that good compared to similar offerings elsewhere so people went up there once, saw how crap it was and left.

The Raine Square food court will probably put the final nail in the coffin of 140w unless they can attract some well-known and popular vendors to move in there.

Oh and I think Carillion would continue to be popular even without the Hungry Jacks and Red Rooster at least based on the number of people who go to the many other food vendors it has.
Judging by the number of people in line/waiting at the Salsas when I went there yesterday for lunch, they seem to be doing a roaring trade. And the Subway in that location is also packed half the time.

Subway - guarenteed success (for some fucked up reason).

I'll have a good look next time I'm there to see if I can pinpoint where it goes wrong. I agree there is something not right but I'm not sure what.

The lunchtime lineup outside the Subway on Hay Street is beyond absurd. I hope those people don't think they're getting a healthy meal...

Sadly they are.

But I guess technically it's better than KFC and Maccas for you.

140W needs something better than shitty asian joints.

speaking of asian, there's a new 'new moon' day/night dim sum place opening next to busy bee. (forgive my ignorance if it's just a refurb and nothing new)

Speaking of Asian:

Me : "what time do Bars generally close in Hong Kong"

Local guy : "normally about 7am"

Me : "OK"

At plenty of bars, "Happy Hour" lasts for about 9 hours as well.

ultimate homo! when do you get back?

Back on Saturday night, unfortunately.

Given the food options here, I am having a light hearted chuckle at 140W vs Carillion food hall discussions. ;)

It's like arguing which is a better source of news - today tonight or aca.

haha of course

u end up going to tung po??

haha of course

u end up going to tung po??

Not yet, but I do have tomorrow night... Tung Po looks pretty amazing!

Not yet, but I do have tomorrow night... Tung Po looks pretty amazing!

pls try to go if you get a chance, ask for robby the owner.

he is completely insane in the best possible way. will force you into drinking competitions with him, will jump up on tables and start dancing, buy people beer etc AND the food is amazing. still remains one of my most memorable eating experiences anywhere in the world. make sure you speak to robby and get his attention though.

http://thekoofamily.wordpress.com/2011/03/14/fab-food-fun-friends-or-adventures-in-dining-at-the-north-point-wet-market/

the fried trotters in the link above cannot be missed. they were amazing

Robby is one of the biggest characters I have ever met. Such a crazy night. Hopefully Wayne and Chicken are there too lol.

Just let the man choose the food for you, it's all brilliant.

pls try to go if you get a chance, ask for robby the owner.

he is completely insane in the best possible way. will force you into drinking competitions with him, will jump up on tables and start dancing, buy people beer etc AND the food is amazing. still remains one of my most memorable eating experiences anywhere in the world. make sure you speak to robby and get his attention though.

http://thekoofamily.wordpress.com/2011/03/14/fab-food-fun-friends-or-adventures-in-dining-at-the-north-point-wet-market/

the fried trotters in the link above cannot be missed. they were amazing


i swear tung po going thru a surge in being referenced by food lovers talk...

#tungpo

Thankfully it's location stops it from becoming too popular with those not in the know.

it's one of the few places where i completed talked it up to you before you went and it still exceeded your expectations

in perth news, the tuckshop has their amazing crumbed pork belly and smoked ham terrinewith fennel and corn salad today and tomorrow, i plan on having it for lunch

seriously do yourselves a favour and try it if youre in the area

in perth news, the tuckshop has their amazing crumbed pork belly and smoked ham terrinewith fennel and corn salad today and tomorrow, i plan on having it for lunch

seriously do yourselves a favour and try it if youre in the area

it was awesome, well worth it

btw jon, you were looking for a place for pies the other day, not sure if yu can get to newcastle st for lunch but if possible tuckshop is worth considering. very good homemade pies, they do a lot for takeaway as well and you can add sides to it like mushy peas, normal peas, chips etc. pies are a good size and very filling, $8.50 for takeaway

Might have to check this place out one day for lunch

SANJ SAYS THE TUCK SHOP IS GREAT BUT I HAD A CRAPPY EXPERIENCE...

I am clearly wrong.

when i first went there not long after they opened i was not impressed either but i have been there nearly 10 times in the last 2 months...

service is also very good, friendly, welcoming, happy to receive feedback or alter things for you etc

Does your tongue ever turn to you in the middle of the night and just say "Thankyou. Thankyou Sanj! THANKYOU FOR EVERYTHING!" and then start making out with your own mouth?

It should. Lucky asshole.

:lol:

Does your tongue ever turn to you in the middle of the night and just say "Thankyou. Thankyou Sanj! THANKYOU FOR EVERYTHING!" and then start making out with your own mouth?

It should. Lucky asshole.

:rofl:

service is also very good, friendly, welcoming, happy to receive feedback or alter things for you etc

today was a great example actually. when i went by this morning to get a coffee they told me the terrine was on the menu, knowing how much i enjoyed it the previous time and said if i was coming in for sure for lunch (i had a nearby meeting) they would hold one for me

then during lunch they came by and said they had accidentally made an extra OJ and so gave me one on the house

these little touches go a long way towards putting a smile on peoples faces. it isnt just the good food that brings people back

Would they do that for everyone though or just those with a randy tongue? Then again judging by UrbanSpoon I think they do. One of the highest %s I've seen.

Would they do that for everyone though or just those with a randy tongue?

like kelli always says it depends on what top you're wearing at the time



on a serious note they do appear to be friendly to everyone, not just the regulars. there seem to be quite a few regulars though

Must admit I had brekky there once with some ham hock baked beans and really enjoyed it. Coffee was good too.

perfect example of what would never happen at tuckshopand in fact should never happen anywhere, review for aisuru sushi. now i dont want to be too harsh since this place is new but this is different to service glitches or even food missing the mark that can be linked to a place with its trainign wheels on.

this is all about a complete lack of warmth or love in a plalce and not giving a shit about customers.

p.s - lulz @ all the melbourne references

I would have loved to have been amazed but I never got a chance. Went to a show at the Heath Ledger Theater with my wife and two children. We thought we would go into Northbridge to get a bite. It's about 8.45 pm on a Saturday night. Got there and was amazed that there was a new place that reminded me of Melbourne. Cool! Let's go there!
Got in the line and then was escorted inside. We were told we would get a table soon and were offered the menus while we waited. 40 minutes later after we watched all those awesome rolls being eaten by others and salivating all over the place, the fellow at the counter approached us and once again apologized but this time he told us that the head chef is only taking orders till 9.30 and since it was 9.25 now, we have to LEAVE! What the ...?
I thought he was kidding, but NO he was not. When I questioned him, he said that the head chef told him to say that. OK, so we wait 40 minutes with a couple of hungry kids (10 and 15), we are given the menus so we can pick our food and then we are asked to leave because the head chef won't take any more orders after 9.30???
This head chef is a Out of touch!!!
Well, back to the Melbourne thing; this would NEVER happen in Melbourne because they believe in service. In my beloved (backwater) Perth, these guys think it is OK!
I'll never go there again and will tell EVERYONE I know not to either. You can't welcome your guests in, tell them you're going to make them happy, keep them waiting for 40 minutes and then kick them out!!!
GOOD LUCK AISURU! I truly hope you get rid of that poor attitude!
Oh, by the way, you should be big enough to take criticism on the chin. Instead of somehow having my post removed, you should be humble and apologetic!!

Even without the bad reviews or setting foot into that place I don't like it. Something screams pretentious and unwelcoming. I doubt they'll do well with that attitude. Surely people aren't that desperate for sushi? It'll be interesting to know how busy they are on weekday/nights

i predict they will do brilliantly unless they fuck up REAAAALLLY badly. something like jaws etc also would have killed it in the location. low food costs, doesnt have to be highly staffed at all, quick turnover of customers, perfect

I think that at some point in the near future we'll have to reach saturation with sushi in the cbd so anywhere selling it can't really afford to treat people like that imo.

this isnt the cbd, it is northbridge and in northbridge there is no specialty sushi place, not even an average one like jaws.

jaws is opening on hay st, somewhere near Equus

didnt know that, thanks.

how long has their little takeaway been open for in london court? pretty smart if you ask me, theyre already producing sushi in a factory somewhere, only one staff member to man this place plus low rent and very low food costs, makes perfect sense

Saw it here Sanj.

27/02/2012 Shop 190/580 Hay Street
PERTH WA 6000
Change of Use from Retail to Food - Jaws Sushi $200,000 DA

yeah I think sushi rolls are the spectacles of the food world.

Carillion has fast food joints to attract a bunch of people too. If you put a McDonalds up in that food court I guarantee you it would be full at all times.

Mostly with delinquent school kids, but whatever.

Familiarity and location are probably their biggest selling points.

this isnt the cbd, it is northbridge and in northbridge there is no specialty sushi place, not even an average one like jaws.

Really? i thought that there were at least a couple of places in NB. It may not be the CBD but it is a five minute walk from the CBD.

Saw it here Sanj.

27/02/2012 Shop 190/580 Hay Street
PERTH WA 6000
Change of Use from Retail to Food - Jaws Sushi $200,000 DA

yeah I think sushi rolls are the spectacles of the food world.

:lol: awesome

the sad thing is i actually think we are lacking in proper sushi where a lot of care is taken not just in making the sushi but in sourcing the ingredients. there is quite a dearth of options here imo

Really? i thought that there were at least a couple of places in NB. It may not be the CBD but it is a five minute walk from the CBD.

none that i can think of

i think sakura might do some sushi just like bonsai might but no real sushi joint that i can think of.

it might be a 5 min walk from the CBD but in a lot of cases it could be a whole world away imo. it is easy to pop into NB, in a lot of cases get parking on the street and have a quick meal. there are also a lot of people who cant be bothered walking all the way into town just for a meal and then come back to NB say for a drink

we honestly take for granted how easily accessed NB is and how cheap and readily available parking is.

it took me ages to find a spot in fortitude valley in brisbane and parking was $21 an hour.

also paid $42 for 1.5 hours parking in birsbane CBD only to be disappointed by lunch at aria

dont get me wrong, i wish it would have to try harder to be a success i just think barring any massive fuckups it will do well

Those parking prices are fvcked! Yes i agree in many ways NB and the CBD are worlds apart even though they are right next to one another. I haven't been to either in ages, spending most of my time in freo atm.

pls try to go if you get a chance, ask for robby the owner.

the fried trotters in the link above cannot be missed. they were amazing

Just got back from Tung Po...! Wow.

Had the fried pork knuckle, prawns in a salty duck egg yolk sauce, couple of giant crab claws, some rice (claypot-ish with duck livers and other goodness inside), many beers (in bowls!), and a ginger and some kind of root vegetable soup for desert. Not bad for just the two of us.

Robby and myself are now best friends. Got his card, he hung out for a bit with me and my mate, we finished off with some gang-style hand shakes, and a bit of moon-walking. He was impressed with my German camera.

Awesome place for sure, thanks for the tip.

I am a bit sad to be leaving Hong Kong tomorrow, it's one of the greatest cities on earth.

Regarding Carillion, I think that size is a factor as well as familiarity and location in that its the largest food court in the CBD so people go there because they know it has the largest range of any food court and the most seating.

Anyone know how the Raine food court will compare to Carillion in terms of number of stores, physical size or amount of seating? I suspect Raine will do very well because of its location near the train and bus stations, its connection to the massive retail arcade on the levels above and the fact that (based on what we know about it anyway) it will have familiar common brands and not things people haven't heard of.
It will also kill off any chance of 140 william being successful (IMO).

Great.

Nate has more stories about his amazing life I'll have to endure at work.

THANKS A LOT SANJ

Just got back from Tung Po...! Wow.

Had the fried pork knuckle, prawns in a salty duck egg yolk sauce, couple of giant crab claws, some rice (claypot-ish with duck livers and other goodness inside), many beers (in bowls!), and a ginger and some kind of root vegetable soup for desert. Not bad for just the two of us.

Robby and myself are now best friends. Got his card, he hung out for a bit with me and my mate, we finished off with some gang-style hand shakes, and a bit of moon-walking. He was impressed with my German camera.

Awesome place for sure, thanks for the tip.

I am a bit sad to be leaving Hong Kong tomorrow, it's one of the greatest cities on earth.

Robbie will forget about you by tomorrow. Fact :P

He'd already forgotten about Sanj when I went and it was only like 2 weeks later ;)

Lies! I thought he said to you i was a faggot? Whats worse? Being forgettable or a faggot?

He said that too but at first he said he forgot you, and to be honest he was just talking drunken shit by that stage lol.

STOP BEING MEAN TO ME!

I BET YOUR MUM DIDNT FORGET ME THIS MORNING

mrs s - yoghurt pannacotta with plums, apricots, blueberries and a homemade nut cluster type thing with hazelnuts, almonds and i think pecans

holy shit it was good. stupidly good and im someone who goes for the savoury option 99% of the time for breakfast

perfect light(ish) but filling breakfast, 2 thumbs up

STOP BEING MEAN TO ME!

I BET YOUR MUM DIDNT FORGET ME THIS MORNING

Your face!

Source (http://www.perthnow.com.au/business/sunday-trading-too-far-away-for-costco/story-e6frg2qc-1226288103337)


Sunday trading too far away for Costco
by: Amy Wilson-Chapman From: The Sunday Times March 03, 2012 5:00PM

http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2012/03/03/1226288/103307-costco-generic.jpg
NOT YET: Costco is a few years away from opening shop in WA. Picture: Supplied Source: Supplied

SUNDAY trading in WA is not enough to lure US retail giant Costco to the state - yet.

The bulky retailer said this week it would not change its strategy of opening more stores in other states before entering the WA market, despite changes to Sunday trading laws here due to take effect by August.

But Costco Australia managing director Patrick Noone said the changes would make WA "more favourable" to the company and encourage it to look at potential sites.

The membership-based retailer uses a warehouse format with discounts on anything from household goods and bulk food to furniture and whitegoods.

Mr Noone said the company had no land secured yet and was not looking at any potential sites in WA.

A Costco warehouse typically requires between 50,000 and 60,000 square metres with about 13,600 sqm dedicated to the store.

Currently, the company has warehouses in Victoria, New South Wales and the Australian Capital Territory.

And, before it thinks about coming to WA it plans to open new stores in Sydney and Melbourne, while also moving into the Queensland and Adelaide market.

Mr Noone said Australians had reacted well to “quality and value” offered by the company, as well sales and memberships had exceeded expectations to date

“The population of some states/regions warrant multiple locations and so we intend to expand in these markets and open additional warehouses,” he said.

^In the mean time, WA leads the nation in consumer spending..

But how? we live so far away from everything else....:crazy:

^WA borderline primitive?

"IN cosmopolitan Melbourne, Perth is often the unfair butt of many a snide joke claiming a trip over the Nullarbor is akin to moving backwards through a timewarp"

... thankfully, it's all up hill from there..

http://www.melbourneweeklyportphillip.com.au/news/local/news/general/tripping-perth-rocks-in-its-own-quiet-way/2468880.aspx

Go to Perth, where you can get up early, catch a fish, go to a larger version of a pub in Melbourne, and... you know... I don't know.

-- By Desperaterobots

I wonder if the Sunday Trading laws will make any other businesses re-consider plans for WA. David Jones was planning to build a store at Whitfords at one point but abandoned those plans because of trading hours laws (which are set to change) and because of planning laws limiting the size of the center (which have also changed) so maybe they will re-consider plans to open that store (especially with MYER opening up the road at Lakeside Joondalup).

Then again, I dont know how David Jones is doing financially or whether it makes sense for them to expand their presence in the west.

If WA leads the nation in consumer spending, is that because... everything costs more here? Because other states are doing particularly poorly, and we're doing slightly better? Is it the mining boom workers spending $12 on a pint? Because I keep hearing how retail is doing it tough... :|

yeah i'm with DR. statistics statistics and more lies.

In any event people (i.e dumb fucks in perth) don't realise it's all about perception.

I wonder if the Sunday Trading laws will make any other businesses re-consider plans for WA. David Jones was planning to build a store at Whitfords at one point but abandoned those plans because of trading hours laws (which are set to change) and because of planning laws limiting the size of the center (which have also changed) so maybe they will re-consider plans to open that store (especially with MYER opening up the road at Lakeside Joondalup).

Then again, I dont know how David Jones is doing financially or whether it makes sense for them to expand their presence in the west.

David Jones didn't abandon plans for a store at Westfield Whitford City, the delay is coming from the the City of Joondalup stonewalling any attempt to expand Whitfords. The original plan was for the store to open in 2012, now it's 2015 i think.

The cheese shop at the Coventry Markets has the most marvelous cheeses. Just polished off a bit of Cremeux D’Argental, which was a revelation. They've got this crumbly, vintage cheddar with garlic and parmesan as well. Then, the lady offered me a sample of aged gouda, I told her I didn't like gouda because it was bland but she insisted aged was different. It's so good! Like a romano or parmesan, strong and crumbly. Having a cheese orgy. They have these multi buy specials as well that make it reasonably priced to try a few different things.

Another fresh fish shop has opened, nearly more fresh fish places there than the rest of Perth put together.

Must... not... make... cheese orgy... joke.

But seriously - it sounds like there might be decent shops opening after I last visited.

David Jones didn't abandon plans for a store at estfield Whitford City, the delay is coming from the the City of Joondalup stonewalling any attempt to expand Whitfords. The original plan was for the store to open in 2012, now it's 2015 i think.
Why is there an issue with expanding Whitfords yet the plans to build a MYER store at Joondalup haven't hit the same problems?

Must... not... make... cheese orgy... joke.

But seriously - it sounds like there might be decent shops opening after I last visited.

I feel siack now :(.

That one has been there from the beginning, but it's out the back a bit.

Every time I visit it becomes more of a one stop shop. There is a place that sells cheap toiletries and household products now too, the one thing I thought I'd still have to go to supermarkets for. 1L of Dynamo for $5 etc.

Whitfords is in the middle of single-dwelling suburbia. From what I've heard the expansion plans are quite big.

Westfield are also trying to buy Karrinyup. Not sure if that might be holding up the David Jones expansion there?

Isn't David Jones Karrinyup supposed to be getting another level as well?

I didn't know Westfield was trying to get Karrinyup. Have they been after it for a while?

Why is there an issue with expanding Whitfords yet the plans to build a MYER store at Joondalup haven't hit the same problems?

Because a lot of the pushback is due to concerns about protecting the primacy of Joondalup.

Because a lot of the pushback is due to concerns about protecting the primacy of Joondalup.
Weren't the new DAPs created to allow big developments like this to be implemented even when councils say no?
Or am I misunderstanding what the DAPs are for?

Personally, I am 100% in favor of any kind of retail expansion in this state and if Whitford City wants to double in size and start approaching the size of shopping centers in the east, I say go for it :)

True, however the DAPs still assess developments based on the local government planning framework.

Also, the issue with Whitfords is the Activity Centre Structure Plan. Basically any shopping centre expansion over 5,000sq.m or so can generally not proceed without an ACSP now. Joondalup has stalled Whitfords by refusing to allow the draft Whitford ACSP to be advertised (1st step in statutory process).

What exactly is an Activity Center Structure Plan and why do they have this in place anyway?

Are there actual issues with the development (e.g. traffic issues, local community opposition or whatever) or is it simply that CoJ wants Joondalup to be the major retail center and not Whitfords?

http://www.planning.wa.gov.au/publications/1178.asp

And the latter

What's a nice place to have lunch in the city at the moment? That isn't a starch-fest. Food seems to be boring me to tears lately.

Tuck shop?

what do u mean by not a starch fest kelli? no carbs whatsoever? so noodles, rice etc are out?

Less than a quarter of the meal consisting of starch, I suppose. Which rules out about 95% of meals :).

Tuck shop?

Funny, I went there the other day, only had coffee though. Saw Miensie and KFC there. Might be an idea.

it does make it a bit harder. not sure how appropriate the pies @ tuck shop would be although i guess you could say not eat all the pastry if you order one. their moroccan meatballs would be an option, extremely tasty and comes on a fairly thin piece of bread (certainly under 25% of the meal). they do all day breakfasts so even the ham hock baked beans etc would be ok. my dad has a brilliant slow cooked lamb salad special there and their crumbed terrine is brilliant

in the city proper im really not an expert, im rarely in the city during lunchtime so dont have experience at places like castro (that PG enjoys) or the tiny places that pop up every so often. i heard about a place called bucket cafe late last year that apparently made nice homemade quiches etc throughout the day so they arent stodgy from the fridge, havent been there though

most azn places would be out with the low carb component unless you order a couple of dishes.

maybe one of the CBD workers can give some advice?

btw id like to give another plug to 399, ive had exemplary service recently from at least 4 or 5 different people there

they remember the drinks you tried the last time you were there, always come up with brilliant suggestions, friendly, no attitude whatsoever, you can wear absolutely anything you like (a few weekends ago i was in there in shorts and thongs next to a guy in a suit and some people in toga outfits who were competing in a cocktail making competition)

re the city, what about korean? between the meat and banchan you could get away with eating bugger all rice. my favourites in the city are took be gi on pier st and took bae kee 2 (sister restaurant) on barrack st but i know nate enjoys poppo on barrack and the other small one near took be gi (right next door to old canton entrance)

I can vouch for poppo too.

I'd be interested to see who here does work in the CBD? Ryan and Bart are the only ones I'm certain of.

I was going to ask what that place that PG recommended was...couldn't remember the name, maybe that's a good option. Thinking about it, Tuckshop might be too time consuming a walk for my friend who has a limited lunch break, must get there though.

Usually I go to asian places with the intention of not eating all the rice/noodles, but when it's in front of me, can't help myself. I like the pork belly at Hawkers, comes with salad veg but doesn't come with rice/noodles unless you order it separately. Jun is good too, quite a few dishes not starchy, though I get annoyed with shared dishes because people eat my choices but I can't eat theirs, so don't get fed properly.

I can vouch for poppo too.

sounds like i need to give it another go. i went twice not long after they first opened and although enjoyable didnt find it special. will try again

kelli - bivouac may be another option. ive only ever enjoyed my visits there, food is not amazing but is good, ive always had good service but i know others have had issues in the past

I wouldn't say the food at poppo is special or unique but it's very good.

Actually I've not had great experiences in Korean restaurants, I can't remember what place it was, but ate at one of those on Barrack Street not that long ago. Will keep them in mind though.

Yes, only ever had coffee at Bivouac too, got to start eating more!

Had a nice breakfast at Milkd today, their coffee is still hideous though.

Actually went to try the two places at the Coventry Markets for breakfast, $15 for eggs on toast...no.

Actually went to try the two places at the Coventry Markets for breakfast, $15 for eggs on toast...no.

you gotta be kidding. that is ridiculous. which place was this?


i also walked out of a place on saturday, coode st cafe in mt lawley. they wanted $20.50 for eggs benedict, $24.50 if with salmon

i got so shat off i walked out and went to mrs s instead. the yoghurt pannacotta with summer fruits and nuts was amazing. highly recommended.

I visited the Margaret River Chocolate Company in Murray Street during lunch today. Surprised they don't have a cafe there.

you gotta be kidding. that is ridiculous. which place was this?


i also walked out of a place on saturday, coode st cafe in mt lawley. they wanted $20.50 for eggs benedict, $24.50 if with salmon

i got so shat off i walked out and went to mrs s instead. the yoghurt pannacotta with summer fruits and nuts was amazing. highly recommended.

Can't remember their names, the two cafes either side of the front doors.

Will have to try the pannacotta, it occurred to me this morning after you mentioned it, but had a craving for bacon, eggs and avocado.

$20 for eggs...:ohno:.

It was interesting to see at Auski Roadhouse...you could get full meals there for $20 that came with a really fresh and full salad/hot vegetable bar. A place in the middle of nowhere, which must have large staffing and supply and other running costs and still they can do that.

The other night I had the Spanner Crab and Seafood Salad at satsuki. It had more seafood pieces (salmon, tuna, scallop, hiramasa) than an avg sashimi platter, fresh crab-meat, awesome dressing. One portion is pretty filling as a meal. All for $14.8!!

No way in hell I'm paying $15 for some eggs on toast in morley.

Yes, it was 11AM and I was ravenous, but I left. Is that the Halu sister restaurant in Subi? Wanted to go there recently, but got out-voted. The lady at the front said they're different to Halu.

Especially one of the places, has all the atmosphere of a hospital diner.

yes it is kelli. It has some similarities but a different vibe/menu. Possibly less adventurous than halu. I just love the freshness of the place and excellent service.

lol which reminds me I still have a booklet full of meal vouchers from Charlie's (from my old man's surgery a year ago). The tightarse in me wants to use it.

I remember you talking about that! I had quite a few breakfasts there last year, it's ok, although the parking will cost you more than your meal would have probably.

Sayers is opening a new place next to Nahm Thai to be called Sayers Sister. Means there is going to be a bit of competition for Tarts and the best cafe in Perth - The Dizzy Witch.

Pie face is opening. 110 William I think the DA said.

Sooo anyone have a waffle maker? I have fallen in love with waffles and want to get a waffle maker. Done some research and cuisinart seem to get good reviews. I am looking for a square one.

Just want to know if anyone has a waffle maker and what they think of it.

Cue WallPart6.

mark mcgowan was on RTR this morning with some policies he is taking to the election re small bars etc

he wants to:

-make it easier to get licences (nothing specific although it could have been due to short nature of the interview
- reduce application fees from $3k to $500 (personally i think that is just a nice sounding policy which is nothing major, the main cost is in legal fees to get the bloody licence in the first place)
- introduce a new "micro bar" licence for even smaller places. again this sounds great but unless we make it easier to get the licence this will be counter productive cos a small place will find it harder to justify the $50-100k legal fees.

Sooo anyone have a waffle maker? I have fallen in love with waffles and want to get a waffle maker. Done some research and cuisinart seem to get good reviews. I am looking for a square one.

Just want to know if anyone has a waffle maker and what they think of it.

I'm no expert. We have a breville one ($40?) that just works. It's a glorified sandwich press from what I can see.

http://www.productreview.com.au/p/breville-waffle-creations.html

i was just thinking this morning in the shower about how the toastie should come back and what fillings could be awesome

i think i need to get one. are they still readily available? those jaffle maker things?

they were called jaffles here werent they? they stopped being cool well before i moved here

i was just thinking this morning in the shower about how the toastie should come back and what fillings could be awesome



whattafatc**t

As long as you weren't thinking about toasties in the shower 'american beauty' style.

Many a childhood winter lunch consisted of jaffles, with pea and ham soup.

not to mention the burns when a hot squirt of cheese shoots through your mouth.

mark mcgowan was on RTR this morning with some policies he is taking to the election re small bars etc

he wants to:

-make it easier to get licences (nothing specific although it could have been due to short nature of the interview
- reduce application fees from $3k to $500 (personally i think that is just a nice sounding policy which is nothing major, the main cost is in legal fees to get the bloody licence in the first place)
- introduce a new "micro bar" licence for even smaller places. again this sounds great but unless we make it easier to get the licence this will be counter productive cos a small place will find it harder to justify the $50-100k legal fees.

Yeah nothing of substance there. Would like to hear an elaboration of "make it easier to get a license". Still won't be enough to make me vote for them.

I'm no expert. We have a breville one ($40?) that just works. It's a glorified sandwich press from what I can see.

http://www.productreview.com.au/p/breville-waffle-creations.html

Its a roundie, I like square. Surprised that you of all people have one though.

not to mention the burns when a hot squirt of cheese shoots through your mouth.

Remember that all too well.


Now this talk has got me thinking about a new sandwich maker too.

I once came up with the idea to make jam and cheese toasted sandwiches - it worked, at the time.

Surely jaffle makers still exist - they were the bomb in primary school! Tinned spaghetti inside them was win :)

Its a roundie, I like square. Surprised that you of all people have one though.

Yeah, the recipes we use aren't conventional.

Also the cuisinart one looks a little deeper which may give you extra crunch.

Yeah, the recipes we use aren't conventional.

Also the cuisinart one looks a little deeper which may give you extra crunch.

Of course. You probably use bird seed and wheat made out of sand sea shells. :P

Yah thats what I want, I like it deep. I'm going to get it but almost everywhere is out of stock so not sure if a new one is on its way or whats happening.

I guess I want to know if they are worth it but I think I've already decided that.

Out of curiousity what recipes do you use?

youre such an indie c**t samboy

what do you make? alfalfa waffles with quinoa and honey from your own bees?

Out of curiousity what recipes do you use?

Not too sure mate. My Mrs makes the waffles. All I know is that it has yeast and an egg but very little oil and no sugar.

youre such an indie c**t samboy

what do you make? alfalfa waffles with quinoa and honey from your own bees?

lol bastard!! Naah I haven't made any jaffles since I stopped eating cheese. Not much point really. Quinoa and honey sounds strangely tempting though.

Surely jaffle makers still exist - they were the bomb in primary school! Tinned spaghetti inside them was win :)

+1

Not too sure mate. My Mrs makes the waffles. All I know is that it has yeast and an egg but very little oil and no sugar.



lol bastard!! Naah I haven't made any jaffles since I stopped eating cheese. Not much point really. Quinoa and honey sounds strangely tempting though.

No sugar no deal.


And no cheese? WTF? You're a wierd cunt :)

-make it easier to get licences (nothing specific although it could have been due to short nature of the interview

Will be interesting to see details and whether he proposes to change (or better yet remove) the biggest problem with the licensing laws, i.e. the "public interest" BS.
Although I doubt McGowan is going to want to risk the media/cops/health authority backlash that would come from (as the media is likely to put it) "allowing bars to open anywhere without considering the harm to the community that will result" (media has a vested interest in talking this stuff up as it sells papers and gets eyeballs)

These days a lot of people (myself included) make their toasties using a sandwich press and not a toastie maker.

Every second workplace seems to have a sandwich press now. Don't think it's as good without the sealed crispy edges though.

I think having a waffle maker at home would be dangerous Ryan.

Every second workplace seems to have a sandwich press now. Don't think it's as good without the sealed crispy edges though.

I think having a waffle maker at home would be dangerous Ryan.

Yeah I use a sandwich press quite a bit and I like it BUT you are correct its not the same. Think I need both - nah not really but maybe.


It could be dangerous but I must have one. I'd never had good fresh waffles before but they had them for breakfast at the hotel in Singapore and they were amazing. Also never much liked mapel syrup before but now I love it as well. I get the whole mapel syrup with waffles thing for the very first time!

Prior I had only had crappy stale waffles.

make sure u get proper maple syrup ryan and not maple flavoured syrup. it can be a fair bit more but is well worth it

Any recommendations? Might as well get the best.

lol bastard!! Naah I haven't made any jaffles since I stopped eating cheese.

Why did you stop eating cheese?

btw my dads party went off brilliantly, food was amazing. will post photos when i get them but overall i was very happy. the 2 dishes i cooked (goat and chicken) were delicious and i do understand now just why mexicans get so irritated by whitey mexican food, it really is nothing like what it's meant to be. it was also interesting playing around with all the chillies, i had ancho, new mexico, chipotle (dried and in adobo), guajillo and one more.

bargain of the day was getting 5 dozen amazing sashimi grade scallops for $100 from partridges wholesale, never been frozen, on the half shell.

i also highly recommend the la boqueria brand of chorizo and related products, i believe the grocer is the only place to get it in WA. wholesale is $20/kg, not sure about retail. they also do hard to find items like sopressatta which is a spreadable sausage from mallorca, ive ordered some to try next week

Any recommendations? Might as well get the best.

dont have any, sorry. maybe stay away from your kraft style big multinational brands. i find health food shops etc often have nice maple syrup but they will bend you over for the privilege

dont have any, sorry. maybe stay away from your kraft style big multinational brands. i find health food shops etc often have nice maple syrup but they will bend you over for the privilege

Cool, thanks. I'll have a look around.

Kakulis might have some.

yeah kakulas, even antonios in mt lawley, freshies, the grocer, boatshed, health food shops, angry almond, smoults in maylands and anywhere like that will probably have some. no idea about around your way or in the CBD apart from david jones food hall.

Kakulas Sisters is just around the corner from my house so they'd be worth a shot.

Cool, thanks. I'll have a look around.

You can get some decent ones from woolies too. Make sure it's CANADIAN 100% pure maple syrup. It costs around $10 from memory but well worth it.

You can get some decent ones from woolies too. Make sure it's CANADIAN 100% pure maple syrup. It costs around $10 from memory but well worth it.

agreed

Thats an impressive amount of money for a refurb!

Anyone else spent that kind of coin setting up in Perth? Even the designer franchises around King don't look like 2.5 MIRRION has been spent.http://www.aahdating.com/huang3.jpg
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2 stores on their website William St City & William St Northbridge !!!:banana:

Northbridge eh. There is a waffle place opening near Jus soon as well.

Labor pushes for more small bars
Courtney Trenwith
March 8, 2012 - 3:41PM

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The state opposition wants to encourage more "micro bars", with fewer than 60 patrons.

Opposition leader Mark McGowan said a Labor government would introduce a new category of small bars, with the maximum number of patrons half of the present 120.

However, present small bar legislation, introduced by the former Labor government in 2006, does not set a minimum size limit, making the micro bar category redundant.

Read more: http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/labor-pushes-for-more-small-bars-20120308-1umgb.html#ixzz1oVHV6bxe

Mr McGowan said his party's liquor licensing reform policy also would cut the licence fee from $3100 to $500 in a move to encourage more small drinking venues.

Development and liquor licence applications also would be allowed to be lodged in parallel.

Presently, a development application must be approved by the local council before the liquor licence is lodged with the Department of Racing, Gaming and Liquor.

Minister for Racing and Gaming Terry Waldron said the present system ensured the liquor licence process was not wasted time if the development was ultimately not approved.

Labor also wants to allow regional liquor stores to open on Sundays and will consider allowing restaurants to serve alcohol without food, as was trialled in Fremantle during the world sailing championships late last year.

The Director of Liquor Licensing would be given greater power to close or suspend the licences of premises that frequently breached regulations, including immediate "stop trading" orders in venues where significant violent actions occurred, and to overrule local council development applications rulings.

A spokesman for Mr Waldron said the director already had such power.

Industry has mostly backed the policies.

Australian Hotels Association WA chief executive officer Bradley Woods said while they had merit the industry must be consulted.

"In principle, the hospitality industry would be supportive of measures that reduce red tape, and promote a vibrant and safe environment for our patrons," he said.

"The AHA(WA) welcomes the streamlining of processes for development approvals.

"The association would support the establishment of a banned drinking register, similar to the legislation in the Northern Territory, and would welcome a trial of ID scanning technology in the Kimberley.

"The development of policy by undertaking discussions with the WA Police and other government agencies is one step but, it is vital discussions also include industry stakeholders and representatives to ensure the best possible outcome for the community is achieved."

Chamber of Commerce and Industry WA chief executive James Pearson said reduced red tape would likely lead to more small bars.

"It should encourage people that want to invest in the local economy, create jobs and generate a more vibrant community," he said.

"It makes sense to streamline the small bar application process and provide clarity to local government and bar owners on how the rules should be implemented."

Mr McGowan said the 64 small bars that had so far been approved had created diversity and encouraged a safer and more sophisticated hospitality environment.

"Micro bars are a new concept for Western Australia and it is our goal to use these to create a more exciting, friendly hospitality environment," Mr McGowan said.

"Labor's reforms will create a safer environment for patrons and encourage a more vibrant nightlife in Western Australia."



saws (http://www.smh.com.au/wa-news/labor-pushes-for-more-small-bars-20120308-1umgb.html)

cant say ive ever heard of pie face, from their website it doesnt look like anything special. has anyone tried it before?

that little hidden arcade next to jus has potential, rents are cheap and i suspect it isnt far away from taking off, probably one big hit away. i think it's all owned by the paoluccis who own half of king st

Just a pie chain that is all over Melbourne. Everywhere. Nothing too special.

i just had a look, they want 600k for the pieface at 110 william st, near corner of murray st (and supposedly 200k rent!!) and 450k for the pieface in NB which is next to just burgers

fucking madness if you ask me for stores that small (55sqm), especially since there is no cooking instore so no expensive kitchen equiptment etc

Northbridge eh. There is a waffle place opening near Jus soon as well.

Mmmmm waffles. Apt timing!

i just had a look, they want 600k for the pieface at 110 william st, near corner of murray st (and supposedly 200k rent!!) and 450k for the pieface in NB which is next to just burgers

fucking madness if you ask me for stores that small (55sqm), especially since there is no cooking instore so no expensive kitchen equiptment etc

No cooking in store = fail. Why ould I buy a pie from there when there are decent bakeries baking them fresh in store? In saying that I will probably try it. They have a mexican pie coming soon. Theres a country town bakery that does mexican pies which sound good.

Sanj - pepper steak is an absolute bargain compared to this.

that was the first thing that came to my mind...

i really cannot wait to go out on my own, hopefully it is no more than 6 months away

there are honestly 10 different things i could invest in right now that would make really good money (and have a lot of fun doing) but i dont have the time for

Pie Face started in Sydney. Seems to be a bit of a fad if you look at the way they market it. I've not eaten there but the pies look like nothing special.

Re maple syrup, I also agree with just going to Coles or Woolies. as long as you make sure you get the 100% Canadian maple syrup (not flavoured) you'll be fine.

Also Ryan have you tried French toast with maple syrup? It's divine.

Re toasties. One of life great pleasure is a crispy cheese and tomato toastie.

We have a jaffle iron that we use over the camp fire. So good.

Egg jaffles are pretty good.

Pie Face started in Sydney. Seems to be a bit of a fad if you look at the way they market it. I've not eaten there but the pies look like nothing special.

Re maple syrup, I also agree with just going to Coles or Woolies. as long as you make sure you get the 100% Canadian maple syrup (not flavoured) you'll be fine.

Also Ryan have you tried French toast with maple syrup? It's divine.

Re toasties. One of life great pleasure is a crispy cheese and tomato toastie.

Ahhh yes of course French Toast with mapel syrup. Haven't tried that but will now.

And bacon.

This thread is why I need to lose 5kg.

5kg? why not 5.5? or 6.0? lol

I've lost 6kg since October - now 76kg

I went to Coventry Square today.

I was embarrassed for all concerned.

The poor lady in the shop called 'Just Marble', which had lots of stuff in it that was not marble.

Walked past a massage place and stopped to look at the prices. Made eye contact with the woman working there who was sitting down fiddling with her phone - she snapped to attention and tried to look busy.

Lots of shops around that were open but had no one manning them. Probably passed five or six like this.

The lady at the pet store had a parrot on either shoulder, and one of the signs in there went in to great detail about a ferret that wasn't for sale, but was concluded with a big black marker scrawling "I AM NOT DEAD" at the end.

Why would anyone open a CD store? A CD STORE. :|

It was about 3.30pm when I went through and lots of the places simply weren't open. Had the business owners already given up?

glad it's not just me that has that opinion. Granted there are a couple of good food stores but afaic the place is just another perth f&%k up!!

The carpark there is the biggest fuckup. Who the hell designed that!

Yep I hated it. Definitely won't be back. So tacky.

The carpark there is the biggest fuckup. Who the hell designed that!

Sad thing is that the project was considerably delayed because of traffic management works and considerations. And that's what they came up with.

im all for tacky if it means i can get a great selection of fruit, veg, meat and fish bloody cheap. in a city where we generally get bent over for these items people are now whinging that a place that offers them cheap is tacky?


agree that the rest of it is a bloody disaster as it stands currently

Yeah I don't have a problem with tacky. People in perth seem to use that world a lot for some reason. what's the opposite of tacky? classy? subdued? boring?

its a market in morley for fucks sake, did anyone expect it to be the height of sophistication?

Perth people think "becoming a great city" means having a tiffanys, Gucci and wanky "classy" overpriced bars.

Perth people think "becoming a great city" means having a tiffanys, Gucci and wanky "classy" overpriced bars.

im all for perth having them as it caters to a market that wasnt offered anything before but for the vast majority of us we wont go to those stores or bars

Perth people think "becoming a great city" means having a tiffanys, Gucci and wanky "classy" overpriced bars.

That's your typical 'Noveau Riche' attitude. Or in Perth's case 'Cashed up Bogan'.

PS: Not having a dig at scrawny. Just digressing.

No worries. I was actually reminded of the coventry markets at the Hyde park festival on the weekend. So many stalls filled with cheap crap. I found myself wandering around for hours without spending a cent.

You mean expensive crap? Markets should be filled with cheap crap. Perth version is generally the opposite.

Nah I mean cheap crap that you wouldn't want to buy. They had these pet lizards that were basically a 1 foot long piece of foam that someone had painted some black dots on for eyes and with some stiff clothes hanger wire as the leash. Enjo was there, someone selling a super Chammy, another stall selling some amazing vegetable chopping device.

Coventry markets has that fake egyptian homewares store - tacky. Another store selling bundy rum/jack daniels neon signs and bar stools for your bar at home. - tacky.

Markets can be done better than this. I worked on the construction of the Fyshwick markets in Canberra. They looked much better than the coventry markets. And no ACC, they don't have a tiffanys. ;-)

http://www.fyshwickfreshfoodmarkets.com.au/

I simply won't go because of that godawful poem by Gina out the front.

Poem by Gina out the front?? Gina Rinehart?

Ha just found it on worst of Perth. Funny.

I give em seven months.

(seven is the new six)

you mean 7 is the perth 6. on second thought 28 is the perth 6.

it must be my inherent gookyness but there could be a photo of gina and clive palmer cuddling naked and it wouldnt turn me away, what does tackyness, a silly poem, shitty clothes shops etc have to do with cheap fruit, veg, meats etc that is very hard to find elsewhere in perth?

Poem by Gina out the front?? Gina Rinehart?

yeah, it's a pearler too. apparently greg poland is a good friend of hers and he has stuck a big iron ore boulder out the front with a poem on it written by her

it's physically impossible for those 2 to cuddle.

The station st markets in subi is azn central.

http://theworstofperth.com/2012/02/13/la-gina/ the poem is here

I'm far from having a chip on the shoulder attitude towards the well off but this it utter RUBBISH

Nah I mean cheap crap that you wouldn't want to buy. They had these pet lizards that were basically a 1 foot long piece of foam that someone had painted some black dots on for eyes and with some stiff clothes hanger wire as the leash. Enjo was there, someone selling a super Chammy, another stall selling some amazing vegetable chopping device.

Coventry markets has that fake egyptian homewares store - tacky. Another store selling bundy rum/jack daniels neon signs and bar stools for your bar at home. - tacky.

Markets can be done better than this. I worked on the construction of the Fyshwick markets in Canberra. They looked much better than the coventry markets. And no ACC, they don't have a tiffanys. ;-)

http://www.fyshwickfreshfoodmarkets.com.au/

Sounds cool.

I'm far from having a chip on the shoulder attitude towards the well off but this it utter RUBBISH

Its just terrible isn't it. I sometimes wonder if being born into money just makes you fucking retarded. The shit she comes up with is just so out of touch with reality.

a photo of gina and clive palmer cuddling naked and it wouldnt turn me away

I think i'm going to be sick :lol:

Oh dear!

Queen Victoria Markets in Melbourne are an example of what we in Perth should be looking towards as far as fresh food markets goes. I cant comment on the quality of the produce but the variety and range and number of stores (butchers, bakers, fishmongers, greengrocers, delis etc) seemed very good to me and the prices seemed great too.

Now I dont know if Perth has the population to support something as big as QVM but I think something along those lines only smaller would work wonders IMO. (more so for the fact that for just about anything there were multiple vendors selling it so they were forced to compete with each other on price/quality/value)

QVM is great. I'm there every Sat. Groceries at half the price of the supermarkets and twice as good.

QVM is in the city and is a tourist attraction if you will.

Coventrys is in the middle of suburbia with the worst traffic layout I have seen anywhere in Perth. Talk about bottleneck.

And while we were discussing it before, Pie Face is the biggest rip off ever.

Over 5 bucks for a small pie. Think jesters but not as filling.

It'll do well then

Am i right in saying that the perth central markets used to be where harbortown is now?

Imagine a proper food market in the middle of Perth city like the Adelaide markets. I would love that.

Just do what they do in France (in London too for that matter, there was one 5 min walk from my flat) and turn certain appropriate streets into makeshift markets on Sat in the city. Imagine one of the CBD malls becoming a proprt street profuce market on Saturdays.

On Forrest Place for example? Wouldn't that be cool.

Yup even better. It's all seems too obvious and easy doesn't it.

Could easily turn Murray and Forest in to a marketplace. Or the cultural precinct. Or Langley Park. Or the future celebrations square.

Wow we have a lot of open space :)

Well they've been doing great with the hawkers markets. Credit where credits due.

No doubt. Totally different thing though. Imagine a farmers market that was a legitimate alternative to the supermarkets.

Could easily turn Murray and Forest in to a marketplace. Or the cultural precinct. Or Langley Park. Or the future celebrations square.

Wow we have a lot of open space :)

Not on Esplanade now - see we've ruined Perth! We only have 1699 public open spaces to choose from not 1700!!

Coventrys isn't all doom and gloom though. It's just open too many days (I.e everyday bar Chrissy). Let's remember the gallaria is still across the road.

Go on a Monday and half the shops aren't open. Go on a Sunday and you can't get parking.

since coming back, tha enjoyment and relaxation i had with grocery shopping is gone... suppose you gotta make do with what you got... i really can't understand why we can't get that model to work in perth... i think a centralised market would work to allow multiple grocers, butchers etc in one location... it just wouldn't work in tha suburbs without tha constant foot traffic...

adjacent to mciver station is tha location pick for me... as for conventry markets being our answer to queen vic market...

#bbt. (b*tchezbetrippin)

Bbt was exactly what I was thinking when reading an article from the manager comparing coventrys to qvm.

Oh dear.

Well you can't blame people for saying so. after all the markets were hyped up to be the premier tourist destination in Perth. As unrealistic as it may be, people still had high expectations (incl me).

No permanent market in Perth will be as good as QVM. Just not possible with our foot traffic, low density, high real estate prices. It's just not gonna happen.

Well you can't blame people for saying so. after all the markets were hyped up to be the premier tourist destination in Perth. As unrealistic as it may be, people still had high expectations (incl me).

No permanent market in Perth will be as good as QVM. Just not possible with our foot traffic, low density, high real estate prices. It's just not gonna happen.

absolutely. QVM is brilliant but survives purely because there would be an outcry if someone tried to get rid of it. it would be impossible to be proposed in the current market with the price of inner city land etc.

i think acc's idea of weekend markets at forrest place is a good one, especially in spring/autumn

its a market in morley for fucks sake, did anyone expect it to be the height of sophistication?

This comment would make more sense if the designers of the place hadn't put this weird fake classic trim everywhere. Like, gyprock cornices everywhere. Chesterfield couches. Electric.. lanterns? I bet they paid through the ass for that shit too.

If they'd played to the sites strengths (its industrial heritage, all that exposed piping and metal everywhere) and employed an interior architect the place could have easily felt a thousand times better than it does now.

Instead we have a confusing layout, grey walls everywhere, 'fancy' finishing touches... Urgh.

There was an old guy in a gopher who was trying to go to the bathroom, but he couldnt turn his gopher in the narrow corridor that lead to the bathrooms. It would be funny if it wasn't so awful.

Okay, it's pretty funny.

This comment would make more sense if the designers of the place hadn't put this weird fake classic trim everywhere. Like, gyprock cornices everywhere. Chesterfield couches. Electric.. lanterns? I bet they paid through the ass for that shit too.



lol yeah all the faux whatever they're called just screams of some bogan's TV room. It would have cost them less to keep it simple.

Ok peeps, I need your foodie advice!
If I have a craving for dumplings tonight where would you recommend??
:) thanks

that new moon place on james st near corner of william opened this week and does night dim sum from 6-9 on friday and saturday. they're claiming theyre the old hoi's kitchen people but dont know the accuracy of the claim (another place did claim the link as well but didnt live up to the billing).

apart from that there arent many options, maks does make the famous xiao long bao and isnt bad, i think shanghai flavour has a couple of dumplings but we dont really have a specialist dumpling place apart from dim sum joints

Ah i want to try that place sanj. Speaking of hoi's, the dim sum cafe is now opening for dinner but they've really gone downhill in the past 18mths

yeah not sure what happened to them

i generally go to northbridge chinese and welcome inn now and occasionally to dragon

a new joint has opened up in como recently walking distance to my office, from the former owner of i think jade dynasty in northbridge

dim sum 6 days a week and alacarte as well. pretty good food i must say from the small selection ive had. place is called imperial court, it is on mlville parade where ribaudos/frenchys used to be

I simply won't go because of that godawful poem by Gina out the front.

au contraire, I would go just to vandalise that sculpture

im all for tacky if it means i can get a great selection of fruit, veg, meat and fish bloody cheap. in a city where we generally get bent over for these items people are now whinging that a place that offers them cheap is tacky?


agree that the rest of it is a bloody disaster as it stands currently

its a market in morley for fucks sake, did anyone expect it to be the height of sophistication?

Yes. To my ears, the whining is unbelievable. This thread sounds like the PerthNow comments section today.

Sans satire.

Well you can't blame people for saying so. after all the markets were hyped up to be the premier tourist destination in Perth. As unrealistic as it may be, people still had high expectations (incl me).

No permanent market in Perth will be as good as QVM. Just not possible with our foot traffic, low density, high real estate prices. It's just not gonna happen.

yes and no. i think if we want something like a qvm, it'd have to be a council/state govt/private partnership...

there's no reason why govt can't lease a property for x tenure period under market rate to cover costs and operate the venture... that way it becomes a staple in our city... from a sustainability point of view, you have to nurture it back. as unconventional that is, but i suppose it's tha same way i see a hawkers festival, rooftop cinema project being able to get up...

Yes. To my ears, the whining is unbelievable. This thread sounds like the PerthNow comments section today.

Hi, welcome to the internet, it's great to see you!

hey guys, finally going to melbourne for a holiday soon, will be staying on collins street, any reccomendations for anything would be appreciated,

there's heaps of bars in melbourne

I hear they also have alleys...

there's also a big train station
with a row of clocks out the front

dont forget the scarf wearing homos

theyre melbournes equivalent of harajuku girls, you have to stare at them until you pluck up the courage to get a photo with one of them

Hi, welcome to the internet, it's great to see you!

:lol:

Melbourne's best tourist attraction is Sydney.

dont forget the scarf wearing homos

theyre melbournes equivalent of harajuku girls, you have to stare at them until you pluck up the courage to get a photo with one of them

haha, ill watch out for them, ill just take my pic from far far away ;)

Australia's best tourist attraction is Asia.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH_MBwQhGgA

sorry couldn't help myself :D

went to tuckshop for breakfast today, despite wanting something lighter ended up with the terrine again, couldnt help myself...

so.damn.good.

my friend had the bruschetta with bacon, avocado, goats cheese etc. was good but not as good as when he had it previously, the bread had been overbaked and was a bit hard

checked out the classroom today, i quite like it

it could easily be quite contrived but it doesnt come off like that. good service, reasonably priced food, quality drinks, quirky setting

open 4-late tues-friday and 11-late sat and sun

had an aviation cocktail that was pretty damn good and a small serve of their beef ribs. extremely tender beef ribs, i could have eaten them with a plastic fork and no knife. could have used a touch of seasoning on the ribs and i would have preferred the bbq sauce less sugary and with more spice but overall very nice. reasonable value too at $17 for a small serve (it is quite a cheap cut of course)

Oh Sanj, keep meaning to tell you. Not sure if you have used your Frisk coupons yet but they have a small food menu now. The place is pretty damn good value to imo.

fuck!!! i completely forgot about them, same with the ones at that grumpy bitches place on murray st (whats it called again??)

will check when they expire, if its pretty soon youre welcome to some of them, id rather you use them then they go to waste

Thanks! Hopefully you can use them though. Tiger Tiger is the bitch one..

ah yes, thats the one

Perth. Where $40 for a cocktail and an entrée sized serving of beef ribs is "reasonable value".

New York prices, Kalgoorlie lifestyle ;)

Problem is, New York is cheaper lol!