^^ Yep.. But, its many years away still.. Who knows, may not even happen.

I think a South Asian Grid is being talked about by some experts which would link up India and its neighbours..

Already, plans to export electricity to Pak ( ~500 MW) is under serious consideration.. India already buys power from Bhutan and Nepal.

India and Bangladesh is also looking for power sharing with bangladesh already requesting power supply from the upcoming Palatana plant(~730MW) in Tripura and Tripura CM was in favour of this deal.. And there are much more plans to link up India and bangla power grids and I think NTPC has plans to build new plants in Bangladesh.

So, already a lot of stuff is happening in this front but just that its all piecemeal stuff and not being done under the "South Asian" umbrella as a whole. But, the most logical next step would be the South Asian Grid which may happen maybe by next decade..

http://www.srmenergy.in/DisplayProject.aspx?ProjectId=2

http://www.bgrcorp.com/cpcl.php

http://www.srmenergy.in/DisplayProject.aspx?ProjectId=2

http://www.bgrcorp.com/cpcl.php

thatha gvt signed many such paper projects...

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=86756687&postcount=767

Parangipettai IL&FS Power Plant is contructed by Shandong Tiejun Electric Power Construction Engineering Co., Ltd

their website: http://en.tiejun.com.cn/About.aspx

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/industry-and-economy/article3258712.ece?homepage=true&ref=wl_home

The Tamil Nadu Government has decided to set up a 660 MW supercritical power plant at Ennore at a cost of Rs 3,960 crore, announced the Chief Minister, Ms J. Jayalalithaa in the Assembly today.

She said the 40-year-old Ennore thermal power plant to the North of Chennai was to have been replaced with a new 600 MW thermal plant. But the supercritical plant technology offers the benefits of more power from less coal and better environmental conservation. A pre-feasibility report is being prepared for the project, which is expected to start generating power by the end of 2015, she said.

Tamil Nadu has fully exploited the hydro-power resource; the options for expanding thermal power plants were limited because of the coal shortage. The Centre has not allocated adequate coal for the power plants in operation, she said.

Liquefied Natural Gas is an alternative fuel for power generation. The State Government has entered into an agreement with the Indian Oil Corporation to set up an LNG terminal at Ennore. It will explore the possibility of setting up a 500-MW power project, she said.

Similarly, the Government will consider establishing a 500-MW LNG power plant using the fuel available from the Gas Authority of India's Kochi-Bangalore pipeline that will traverse Coimbatore, Salem and Dharmapuri in Tamil Nadu.
Project report

On the status of the power projects announced in the 2011-12 budget, Ms Jayalalithaa said a feasibility report is being prepared for a 800-MW expansion of the Udankudi Thermal Plant set to go on stream in 2015-16.

The 1,600-MW Uppur Thermal Plant will start generating power in 2015. The pre-feasibility and the draft plan have been finalised, Anna University is compiling a Coastal Regulation Zone boundary study, and tenders are being scrutinised to appoint a consultant and for an Environmental Impact Assessment study. The Union Environment Ministry is to give the terms of reference for the study.

The 800-MW Tuticorin Stage IV Thermal plant will start generating power in 2015. The Anna University has submitted the CRZ boundary report and a consultant appointed to do a feasibility study and a detailed project report.

The Chief Minister also gave details of projects with a total capacity of over 3,800 MW on which work had started in 2002 and 2003 when her government had previously been in power. These projects have now been speeded up. The severity of power cuts would also come down from June onwards, she said.

These include the 1,000-MW Vallur Thermal Power Project near North Chennai being set up jointly with NTPC following an agreement in July 2002. The thermal plant will start generating power in stages this year in June and November and in June 2013.

An agreement was signed with Neyveli Lignite Corporation for a 1,000-MW power plant in Tuticorin in June 2003. The first phase of this project will start in June 2013 and the second in September. This plant was to have supplied 750 MW power to Tamil Nadu. But under the previous Government this project was considered a Central power project and Tamil Nadu will now get 387 MW, she said.

Apart from these projects, one unit of the 2x600 MW, North Chennai Stage – II project will generate power in August and the other from December onwards, she said.

So, already a lot of stuff is happening in this front but just that its all piecemeal stuff and not being done under the "South Asian" umbrella as a whole. But, the most logical next step would be the South Asian Grid which may happen maybe by next decade..

I think you forget the black sheep.. PAK... they wont agree to anything that will benefit India 1%, even if it helps them 100%..

I think you forget the black sheep.. PAK... they wont agree to anything that will benefit India 1%, even if it helps them 100%..

Not always true

http://blogs.wsj.com/indiarealtime/2012/03/02/pakistan-rejects-u-s-call-to-drop-iran-pipeline/

Not always true

http://blogs.wsj.com/indiarealtime/2012/03/02/pakistan-rejects-u-s-call-to-drop-iran-pipeline/

This was just political stunt.. If this pipeline deal goes thru, it will be akin to us signing a F16 tech procurement deal with US.. may work on paper.. but practically comes with only strings attached..

Pak wants to use Iran related issues as a checkmate to US pressure.

Dont want to hijack the power thread with the other Power... Individual deals may happen with neighboring counties, but South Asian deal is a pipedream with current state of Pak or its foreseeable future.

As if the existing problems are not enough!!
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http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/strike-hampered-production-at-coimbatore-unit-suzlon/161841/on

Wind turbine maker Suzlon Energy today said that production at its Coimbatore manufacturing facility in Tamil Nadu was hampered due to a strike.

SE Forge, the wholly-owned subsidiary of Suzlon Energy faced a strike at its Coimbatore manufacturing facility impacting production and dispatches, the company informed the Bombay Stock Exchange (BSE) today.

About 200 confirmed workers started an illegal stay-in strike since March 19 demanding 25 trainees to be absorbed onto the company's rolls as permanent employees, the company said.

Factory management and senior management of SE Forge are in discussions with striking employees to resolve the situation, it added.

Shares of Suzlon Energy closed at Rs 26.15, down 2.79% on the BSE.

I think you forget the black sheep.. PAK... they wont agree to anything that will benefit India 1%, even if it helps them 100%..

A lot can happen in a decade's time!

Sachi,

The problem with SAARC is that Pak govt / military controls their business.

In spite of that huge business takes place with India. & other countries too.

Pak helped India during the sugar & Onion crisis. Now asking India's help to manage Oil crisis there.

As I have been saying wrt SLanka, PAK will also come around if India does Economic Terrorism.

The younger generation is so sick of all these Al Qaida / Taliban issues and they want to live a peaceful life.

They do not have the baggage of Anti India sentiments like their forefathers. (I notice that even Indian youth are not so anti Pak as my generation)

SAARC has not turned into an ASEAN level org due to Pak-India issues.

Huge potential for Indian business.

L&T bags orders worth Rs 1,875 cr

L&T has secured orders valued at over Rs 1,875 crore across business segments in March.

In power transmission and distribution, domestic orders total Rs 701 crore. A major order is from the Tamil Nadu Electricity Board for the construction of a 148-km 400kV DC (Quad) transmission line from Pugalur to Pandiankuppam, said L&T in a statement. The project is scheduled for completion in 18 months.

The company has also bagged two orders for construction of substations at Malaysendra from Karnataka Power Transmission Corporation and at Jind, Haryana, from Power Grid Corporation.

International orders were worth Rs 194 crore; they include a contract for building a 220/33 kV substation and other orders in ongoing projects in the UAE, L&T said.

Its building and factories segment has got orders for Rs 841 crore. This includes construction of residential apartments in Chennai and Mumbai, besides an order for construction of a mall in Bangalore.

In the solar business, L&T Construction has been awarded contracts worth Rs 139 crore for construction of a 5.75-MW plant in Rajasthan.

The order is on engineering, procurement and construction basis. L&T also has an order for carrying out civil works for a solar thermal project in Gujarat.

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/companies/article3262746.ece

NTPC commissions unit 4 at Simhadri, unit I at Vallur

NTPC has added 1,000 MW in the South by commissioning one 500-MW unit at Simhadri in Andhra Pradesh and another 500-MW at Vallur in Tamil Nadu.

The 500 MW Unit 4 of Simhadri super thermal power project was synchronised with the grid on Thursday night. This comes within two days of commissioning another 500 MW Unit I at Vallur.

The total installed operational capacity of NTPC-Simhadri, near Visakhapatnam, has now gone up to 2,000 MW.

Power generated from Simhadri Stage-II will be supplied to Andhra Pradesh (384.4 MW), Karnataka (176 MW), Kerala (80 MW), Tamil Nadu (197 MW) and Puducherry (10 MW).

However, the entire power generated from Simhadri Stage-I 1000 MW (2x500MW) is supplied to Andhra Pradesh.

The Vallur project was set up NTPC Tamil Nadu Energy Co Ltd, a joint venture of NTPC and Tamil Nadu Electricity Board.

PROJECTS IN MAHARASHTRA

In a statement to exchanges, NTPC has informed that the company's board of directors recently accorded investment approval two power projects in Maharashtra.

One relates to Mouda super thermal power project (2 X 660 MW) to be implemented with an appraised estimated cost of Rs 7,921.47 crore and the other is for Solapur super thermal power project (2 x 660 MW) to be implemented with an outlay of Rs 9,395.18 crore.

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/companies/article3261267.ece

Is the entire 500 MW from Vallur given to TN??

QUALITY AUDIT CERTIFICATE TO NPCIL:

http://www.npcil.nic.in/pdf/TUV-CERT-20071.pdf



SUPPLEMENTARY REPORT ON SAFETY

http://www.pibchennai.gov.in/karuvoolam/Releases%202012/January%202012/KKNPP31.01.2012.pdf

The quality certificate is expired as of 2010.

QUALITY AUDIT CERTIFICATE TO NPCIL:

http://www.npcil.nic.in/pdf/TUV-CERT-20071.pdf



SUPPLEMENTARY REPORT ON SAFETY

http://www.pibchennai.gov.in/karuvoolam/Releases%202012/January%202012/KKNPP31.01.2012.pdf

Dear TN SSCians,
Not sure if this news was already seen here.. but looks like India is gonna gift 5000 MW to Pakistan on a platter...I know we are unable to buy power from the north due to grid congestion.. but doesnt the below sound outrageous???

http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-13-13509-India-offers-Pakistan-5,000MW-of-electricity

By the way, what is the time and infra involved in , say , doubling the grid infrastructure.. or even increasing it by 25%?

Should we try to escalate it to appropriate authorities in TN??

Jaya should voice this and criticize Shinde for not allotting additional power from the central grid but generous to our friendly neighbour.
Today jaya has written a letter to PM for allotting the entire 2000MW from koodankulam to TN citing the shortage faced by the state. But how far it is going to fructify still remains a million dollar Qn?

how can we voice our protest so that it reaches our CM?

http://i.imgur.com/wXb9K.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/eziMW.jpg

^^
PT E.g
Present Proposed
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Case 2)from Rs 330 to Rs 945
Case 3) from Rs 1495 to Rs 4645

I want to re-iterate my concerns posted on the previous page.. as i think its really important and dont want to see it drowned..:bash:

Dear TN SSCians,
Not sure if this news was already seen here.. but looks like India is gonna gift 5000 MW to Pakistan on a platter...I know we are unable to buy power from the north due to grid congestion.. but doesnt the below sound outrageous???

http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-13-13509-India-offers-Pakistan-5,000MW-of-electricity

By the way, what is the time and infra involved in , say , doubling the grid infrastructure.. or even increasing it by 25%?

அனல்மின்நிலையத்திற்கு எதிராக சாலை மறியல்

திருநெல்வேலி: நெல்லை மாவட்டம் தாழையூத்து அருகே உள்ள சங்கர் சிமெண்ட் வாளாகத்தில் அமைய உள்ள அனல்மின்நிலையத்திற்கு எதிர்ப்பு தெரிவித்து இன்று பல்வேறு கட்சியினர் சாலை மறியலில் ஈடுபட்டனர். இங்கு மின்உற்பத்திக்கான அனல்மின்நிலைய கட்டுமானப்பணிகள் நடந்து வருகின்றன. இதற்கு எதிர்ப்பு தெரிவித்து தே.மு.தி.க. ம.தி.மு.க. மற்றும் ம. ம.க. உள்ளிட்ட கட்சிகளைச்சேர்ந்தவர்கள் நெல்லை-மதுரை சாலையில் திடீர் மறியலில் ஈடுபட்டனர்.


http://www.dinamalar.com/News_Detail.asp?Id=439232

Guys what is this Thermal PP is coming up in Sankar nagar? Any details?

^^

It might be capative power plant of 50-60MW for their internal consumption i.e for their cement plant instead of depending on TNEB grid.

^^ Politicos protesting without even knowing for what it is :lol: I thought that it could be something for TN and they are protesting against it

Why the hell are the politicos opposing this project??

Why the hell are the politicos opposing this project??


Payment issues.

Even if Koodankulam starts operations, how are they going to evacuate the power say to Coimbatore ?

West TN will not get power from Koodankulam unless the transmission infra is in place.

Japan is ready to give aid but how much time it will take for construction ?

JJ should also concentrate on Transmission infra urgently esp the last mile connectivity and Sub stations near Wind Farms and Koodankulam.

^^
There is one major Power Distribution centre at Kayathar. Connects almost all Load centres in TN. Koodankulam and Power Stations in Tuticorin must be connected to this .

Recent alternate Power carriers also may be in place or under construction by Power Grid Corporation of India.

Wnd Mills are scattered and distribution will remain a problem area for a long time.

High-voltage direct-current (HVDC) technology is used for greater efficiency in very long distances (typically hundreds of miles (kilometres), or in submarine power cables (typically longer than 30 miles (50 km). HVDC links are also used to stabilize against control problems in large power distribution networks where sudden new loads or blackouts in one part of a network can otherwise result in synchronization problems and cascading failures.

Hope present Govt. adds a lot of HVDC transmission systems.. In old towers you can see "Danger-230KV AC". Time to change to DC transmission.

அனல்மின்நிலையத்திற்கு எதிராக சாலை மறியல்

திருநெல்வேலி: நெல்லை மாவட்டம் தாழையூத்து அருகே உள்ள சங்கர் சிமெண்ட் வாளாகத்தில் அமைய உள்ள அனல்மின்நிலையத்திற்கு எதிர்ப்பு தெரிவித்து இன்று பல்வேறு கட்சியினர் சாலை மறியலில் ஈடுபட்டனர். இங்கு மின்உற்பத்திக்கான அனல்மின்நிலைய கட்டுமானப்பணிகள் நடந்து வருகின்றன. இதற்கு எதிர்ப்பு தெரிவித்து தே.மு.தி.க. ம.தி.மு.க. மற்றும் ம. ம.க. உள்ளிட்ட கட்சிகளைச்சேர்ந்தவர்கள் நெல்லை-மதுரை சாலையில் திடீர் மறியலில் ஈடுபட்டனர்.


http://www.dinamalar.com/News_Detail.asp?Id=439232

Guys what is this Thermal PP is coming up in Sankar nagar? Any details?


This is the captive power plant for India Cements Ltd, Sankar nagar.. it is 48 MW captive power plant..Refer the link for more details.

http://www.tnpcb.gov.in/pdf/Exe_%20sum_ICL_48MW_eng.pdf

Infact almost all major industries have started or in the process of setting up their captive power plant.

Sterlite is building 160 MW power plant

DCW is expanding its captive power plant to 108 MW...refer link

http://www.tnpcb.gov.in/pdf/Exe_sum_DCW.eng.pdf

These industries are close to Tuticorin Port and coal can be easily imported and it is infact cost effective for these industries given the high power tariff... also no know wants to depend on govt promises of improving power scenario and most have started working on their own alternatives much before today's disastrous situation..

The indirect benefit is electricity saved by TNEB due to industries going on their own is energy gained for retail consumers..

From AV:
கூடங்குளத்தை ஏன் ஆதரிக்கிறோம்? ஏன் எதிரிக்கிறோம்?

விகடன் டீம்

கூடங்குளம்பற்றிய விவாதங்கள் விஸ்வரூபம் எடுத்திருக்கும் நிலையில், 'தீவிர ஆதரவு’ அல்லது 'தீவிர எதிர்ப்பு’ என்கிற நிலைப்பாடுகளில் இருக்கும் இவர்களைச் சாமானிய மக்களின் கேள்விகளோடு சந்தித்தோம்.

''தமிழகத்தின் மின் தேவையை ஓரளவுக்குக்கூட கூடங்குளம் அணு உலையால் பூர்த்திசெய்ய முடியாது என்கிற நிலையில், அணு சக்தியை எப்படி நம் தேவைக்கான மாற்றாகச் சொல்ல முடியும்?''

எம்.ஆர்.சீனிவாசன், அணு விஞ்ஞானி: ''கூடங் குளம் அணு மின் நிலையத்தில் இப்போது செயல்படவிருக்கும் இரண்டு ஈனுலைகளில் இருந்து 2,000 மெகா வாட் மின்சாரம் உற்பத்தி ஆகும். இதில் தமிழகத்தின் பங்கு 950 மெகா வாட். எஞ்சிய மின் சாரம் பிற மாநிலங்களுக்கு. இது தற்போதைய நிலை. அடுத்தடுத்த ஆண்டுகளில் கூடங்குளத்தில் மேலும் 4 ஈனுலைகள் நிறுவப்படும்போது, 6,000 மெகா வாட்ஸ் மின்சாரம் உற்பத்தி செய்யப்படும். அப்போது தமிழகத்துக்கு மேலும் 1,900 மெகா வாட் மின்சாரம் கிடைக்கும். நம் நாட்டின் ஒட்டுமொத்த மின் தேவைக்கும் அணு சக்தி ஒன்றுதான் தீர்வு என்று யாரும் சொல்லவில்லை. அனல் மின்சாரம், புனல் மின்சாரம், சூரிய சக்தி... எல்லாமே தேவைதான். அதேபோல, அணு சக்தியின் தேவையும் புரிந்துகொள்ளப்பட வேண்டிய ஒன்று!''

''போராட்டக் குழு ஒன்றிணைத்த விஞ்ஞானிகள் 'அணு மின் நிலையத்தால் பாதிப்பு ஏற்படும்’ என்று சொன்னால் ஏற்றுக்கொள்ளும் நீங்கள், அரசுத் தரப்பு விஞ்ஞானிகள் 'அணு மின் நிலையத் தால் பாதிப்பு இல்லை’ என்று சொன்னால் அதை ஏற்றுக்கொள்ள மறுப்பது ஏன்?''

ஆண்டன் கோமஸ், கூடங்குளம் அணு மின் நிலைய எதிர்ப்புக் கூட்டமைப்பின் அமைப்பாளர்:

''எங்களுடைய விஞ்ஞானிகள் நிலவியல், கடலியல், தொழில்நுட்பரீதியாக, ஏற்கெனவே அணு மின் நிலையங்களால் பெற்றிருக்கும் அனுபவங்களின் அடிப்படையில் பல கேள்விகளை எழுப்பு கிறார்கள். ஆனால், அதற்கு அரசுத் தரப்பு

விஞ்ஞானிகள் பதில் அளிக்கவில்லை. அணுகுண்டு செய்வதற்கான மூலப்பொருளான புளூட்டோனியம், அணு உலைகளில் இருந்து கழிவாக வெளியேறுகிறது. இந்த அணு உலைகளுக்கு மூலப்பொருளாக இருக்கின்ற யுரேனியத்தில் இருந்து சிறிது மின்சாரம் எடுக்க முடியும் என்பதுதான் உண்மை. ஆனால், அரசுத் தரப்பு விஞ்ஞானிகளோ, யுரேனியம் மூலம் பன்மடங்கு மின்சாரம் எடுக்கலாம்என்பது போல் பேசிவருகிறார்கள். இதைப் பற்றி எல்லாம் கேள்வி எழுப்பினால், 'அவை அனைத்தும் ரகசியம்’ என்கிறார்கள்!''

''அணுக் கழிவைப் பாதுகாக்க நவீன தொழில்நுட்ப வசதிகள் இந்தியாவில் கிடையாது எனக் கூறப்படும் நிலையில், கூடங்குளத்தில் இருந்து கிடைக்கக்கூடிய அணுக் கழிவை என்ன செய்யப்போகிறீர்கள்?''

சுந்தர், கூடங்குளம் அணு மின் திட்டத்தின் நிலைய இயக்குநர்:

''அணு உலையில் யுரேனியத்தைப் பயன்படுத்தி மின் உற்பத்தி செய்த பின்னர் கிடைக்கக்கூடிய 'ஸ்பெண்ட் ஃபியூலை’ மிகவும் பத்திரமாகப் பாதுகாக்க வழிமுறைகள் இருக்கின்றன. அனல் மின் திட்டங்களில் மிஞ்சும் சாம்பல்போல யுரேனியம் மாறிவிடாது. செறிவூட்டப்பட்டதாக மாறிவிடும். அணு உலையில் வைக்கப்படும் 'யுரேனியம் 228’ மின் உற்பத்திக்குப் பின்னர், 'புளூட்டோனியம் 229’ ஆக மாறிவிடும். அதை மறு சுழற்சிக்கு நாங்கள் பயன்படுத்த முடியும். வேறு அணு உலைகளுக்கு அதை எரிபொருளாகப் பயன்படுத்திக்கொள்ளலாம். தற்போது கல்பாக்கத்தில் வடிவமைக்கப்பட்டு இருக்கும் ஈனுலை இந்த எரிபொருளைப் பயன்படுத்தும் வசதிகொண்டது. அங்கு பயன்படுத்தப்பட்ட பிறகும்கூட இது கழிவாகிவிடாது. அடுத்த கட்டமாகவும் பயன்படுத்த முடியும். ஆகவே, எங்களைப் பொறுத்தவரை, அணு உலைக் கழிவு என்பது மற்றொரு வகையான எரிபொருள் தானே தவிர, அது குப்பை போன்று கை விடப்படும் கழிவு இல்லை.''

''தமிழக முதல்வர் கூடங்குளம் அணு மின் நிலைய எதிர்ப்புப் போராட்டக் குழுவினரை நம்பவைத்துக் கழுத்தறுத்துவிட்டதாக நினைக்கிறீர்களா?''

சுப.உதயகுமாரன், அணு சக்திக்கு எதிரான மக்கள் கூட்டமைப்பின் ஒருங்கிணைப்பாளர்:

'' 'கழுத்தறுத்துவிட்டதாக’ என்பதைவிட 'கைவிட்டதாக’ என்பதுதான் சரியாக இருக்கும். காரணம், போராட்டத்தின் ஆரம்பத்தில் 'உங்களில் ஒருத்தியாக இருப்பேன்’ என்றவர் பிறகு, 'உள்ளூர் மக்களின் திருப்திதான் முக்கியம்’ என்றார். ரஷ்யாவில் பிரதமர் மன்மோகன் சிங், 'கூடங்குளம் அணு மின் நிலையத்தைச் செயல்படவைப்போம்’ என்று சொன்னபோது, அதை விமர்சித்தவரும் தமிழக முதல்வர்தான். திருநெல்வேலி மாவட்டத்தில் எங்கு நாங்கள் போராட்டம் நடத்தினாலும், தாமதிக்காமல் அனுமதி அளித்தவரும் அவர்தான். அப்போது எல்லாம் அவர் எங்களுக்கு ஆதரவாக இருப்பதாக நாங்கள் நினைத்திருந்தோம். திடீரென்று, எங்களின் போராட்டத்தை முடக்குவது, அணு மின் நிலையம் திறப்பதற்கு ஒத்துழைப்புத் தருவோம் என்று அவர் சொல்வது எதனால் என்று புரியவில்லை. அநேகமாக, மத்திய அரசு தமிழக அரசுக்குப் பெரும் நெருக்கடி அல்லது அழுத்தத்தைக் கொடுத்திருக்கலாம்!''

''கூடங்குளம் அணு உலைக்கு எதிராகப் போராடுபவர்கள் பணம் வாங்கிக்கொண்டு போராடுகிறார்கள் என்கிறீர்களே... ஆயிரக்கணக்கில் கூடும் மக்கள்கூடவா பணம் வாங்கிக்கொண்டு போராடுகிறார்கள்?''

கோபண்ணா, தமிழக காங்கிரஸ் மூத்த தலைவர்:

''கிராமத்து மக்கள் சிலர் அணு உலை வேண்டாம் என்று கூறுகிறார்கள் என்றால், அது ஒட்டுமொத்த இந்திய மக்களின் மனநிலையைப் பிரதிபலிப்பது அல்ல. ரஷ்யத் தொழில்நுட்பத்தை அடிப்படையாகக்கொண்ட கூடங்குளம் அணு உலை செயல் பட்டுவிடக்கூடாது என்பதில் சர்வதேச அளவிலான சதி இருக்கிறது. வெளிநாடுகளில் இருந்து தொண்டு நிறுவனங்களுக் குக் கோடிக்கணக்கில் நிதி வந்திருக்கிறது. அப்படி அனுப்பப்பட்ட நிதிதான் இந்தப் போராட்ட நெருப்புக்கு எரிபொருள் ஊற்றுகிறது!''

''மக்கள் போராட்டங்களின் எதிர்காலம் இனி அவ்வளவுதானா?''

அ.மார்க்ஸ், மனித உரிமைச் செயற்பாட்டாளர்: ''அப்படி நம்பிக்கை இழப்பதற்கு ஒன்றும் இல்லை. நந்திகிராம், சிங்கூர், நவிமும்பை முதலான இடங்களில் வரவிருந்த - மக்க ளைப் பாதிக்கக்கூடிய பல்வேறு திட்டங்கள் முறியடிக்கப்பட்டது மக்கள் போராட்டங் கள் மூலம்தான். தமிழகத்திலும்கூட சமச் சீர்க் கல்வித் திட்டத்தை ஒழிப்பதற்கு அரசு மேற்கொண்ட முயற்சி, மக்கள் போராட்டத்தால்தான் நிறுத்தப்பட்டது. இப்படி நிறைய உதாரணங்கள் இருக் கின்றன. கூடங்குளத்தைப் பொறுத்தவரை, இன்று நிலவும் மின் பற்றாக்குறைக்கு இந்தத் திட்டம் நல்ல தீர்வு என்று நம்பவைப்பதில் அரசு வெற்றி பெற்றுள்ளது. ஆனால், அதையும் தாண்டி, இந்தப் போராட்டத்தால் அணு உலை ஆபத்து பற்றிய விழிப்பு உணர்வு பெரிய அளவில்உருவாக் கப்பட்டு உள்ளது. எதிர்காலத்தில் அரசு இந்தத் துறையில் மேற்கொள் ளக்கூடிய முயற்சிகள் அவ்வளவு எளிதாக வெற்றிபெறுவதற்கு வாய்ப்பு இல்லாத சூழலை இந்தப் போராட்டம் உருவாக்கி இருக்கிறது!''

''ஜெய்தாபூரில் அணு உலை அமைவதை எதிர்க்கும் மார்க்சிஸ்ட்டுகள், கூடங்குளத்தில் அணு உலை அமைக்கப்படுவதை எப்படி ஆதரிக்கிறீர்கள்? மாநிலத்துக்கு ஒரு கொள்கையா?''

ஜி.ராமகிருஷ்ணன், தமிழ் மாநிலச் செயலர், மார்க்சிஸ்ட் கம்யூனிஸ்ட் கட்சி:

''ஜெய்தாபூர் அணு உலையில் அமைக் கப்படும் ஈனுலைகள் உலகில் இது வரை வேறு எங்குமே பரிசோதித்துப் பார்க்கப்படாத ஈனுலைகள். அங்குதான் அவை முதன்முதலில் இயக்கப்படும் சூழலை எதிர்க்கிறோம். ஆனால், கூடங்குளத்தில் அப்படி அல்ல. பல ஐரோப்பிய நாடுகளில் இத்தகைய ஈனுலைகள் வெற்றிகரமாகச் செயல்பாட்டில் இருக்கின்றன. அதனாலேயே அவற்றை ஆதரிக்கிறோம். இந்தச் சூழலிலும்கூட ஃபுகுஷிமா விபத் துக்குப் பிறகு, கூடங்குளம் மக்களிடையே ஏற்பட்ட அச்சத்தை உணர்ந்து, அவர்களுடைய அச்சம் களையப்படும் வகையில் நிபுணர்கள் குழு மூலம் கூடங்குளம் அணு உலை மறு ஆய்வு செய்யப்பட வேண்டும். அந்தக் குழு மூலம் இந்த அணு உலை பாதுகாப்பானது என்று உறுதிசெய்யப் பட்டால் மட்டுமே, அணு உலை இயக்கத் துக்கு அனுமதி அளிக்க வேண்டும் என்று அறிவித்தோம்!''

''அனைத்து அரசியல் கட்சிகளும் இந்தத் திட்டத்தை ஆதரிக்கும்போது ம.தி.மு.க. மட்டும் எதிர்ப்பது ஏன்?''

வைகோ, பொதுச் செயலர், ம.தி.மு.க.: ''ஒவ்வொரு கட்சிக்கும் ஒவ்வோர் அரசியல் உள்நோக்கம் இருக்கிறது. எங்களுக்கு எந்தச் சுயநல நோக்கமும் இல்லை. கூடங்குளம் திட்டத்துக்கான கையெழுத்து போடப்பட்ட 1988-ம் ஆண்டிலேயே இந்திய நாடாளுமன்றத்தில் இந்தத் திட்டத்தை எதிர்த்துப் பேசியவன் நான். 24 ஆண்டுகளாக நான் சொன்ன விஷயத்தில், அடி பிறழாமல் இருக்கிறேன். இந்தத் திட்டத்தால், தமிழகத்துக்கும் தமிழினத்துக்கும் எதிர்காலத்தலை முறைக்கும் எந்த நன்மையும் கிடைக்கப்போவது இல்லை. அடி மடியில் நெருப்பைக் கட்டிக்கொண்டு வாழ்வது என்று சொல்வார்களே... அப்படி அணுக்கதிர்களை மடியில் கட்டிக்கொண்டு பல்லாயிரம் ஆண்டுகளுக்கு இருக் கப்போகிறோம். அணு சக்திக்கு எதிராக உலகம் போராடுகிறது. அணு உலைகளை எல்லா நாடுகளும் மூடிக்கொண்டு இருக்கின்றன. நம்முடைய அரசு மட்டும் அணு உலைகளைத் திறக்கிறது என்றால், இந்த அரசுக்கும் ஆட்சியாளர்களுக்கும் நாட்டு மக்களைப் பற்றி எந்தக் கவலையும் இல்லை என்று பொருள்!''

Looks Chettinad's 2*660 MW = 1320 MW ground breaking works started at Tharangambadi-Nagapattinam district.

Investment is around 8000 crores. :cheers:

Tenders were invitied for the same.

http://www.chettinadpower.com/tender_description/m1.jpg

http://www.chettinadpower.com/images/map.jpg

http://www.chettinadpower.com/file/BOPV-II/VOLUME-IIF/BOP-VOL-IIF-INDEX.pdf

^^

Tuticorin and Cuddalore-Nagai belt is the major hope for the state to take manufacturing GDP to new heights.

The investment like above, Nagarujuna Oil refinery, PCPIR etc., will bring some more manufacturing industries to this region because of power availability, port investment etc., and it will surely follow with infra investment on road and rail.

Tharangambadi-Mayiladuthurai abadoned railway line should be restored and it should be linked to Karaikal too. Gvt should take up Chennai-Pondy ECR 6-lane and Pondy-Thiruthuraipoondi ECR 4-lane seriously instead of just keeping in paper.

This is the captive power plant for India Cements Ltd, Sankar nagar.. it is 48 MW captive power plant..Refer the link for more details.

http://www.tnpcb.gov.in/pdf/Exe_%20sum_ICL_48MW_eng.pdf

Infact almost all major industries have started or in the process of setting up their captive power plant.

Sterlite is building 160 MW power plant

DCW is expanding its captive power plant to 108 MW...refer link

http://www.tnpcb.gov.in/pdf/Exe_sum_DCW.eng.pdf

These industries are close to Tuticorin Port and coal can be easily imported and it is infact cost effective for these industries given the high power tariff... also no know wants to depend on govt promises of improving power scenario and most have started working on their own alternatives much before today's disastrous situation..

The indirect benefit is electricity saved by TNEB due to industries going on their own is energy gained for retail consumers..

Thanks for the pdf's Blackpearl :cheers:
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Some more details on the protest against the Sankar nagar captive Thermal PP

http://www.dinamalar.com/News_Detail.asp?Id=439790

excellent move(tariff hike). The big move is also for the agricultural consumers.A big hike there, i hope no protest.

^^ Gvt should take up Chennai-Pondy ECR 6-lane and Pondy-Thiruthuraipoondi ECR 4-lane seriously instead of just keeping in paper.

I dont think there is a need to take up Chennai-Pondy 6 laning project now, maybe upto Mamallapuram wud be benficial.

There is no much traffic on this route, especially after opening of the 6 laning of Pondy-Tindivanam section the traffic has further reduced.

Even if Koodankulam starts operations, how are they going to evacuate the power say to Coimbatore ?

West TN will not get power from Koodankulam unless the transmission infra is in place.

Kannan Sir may be this map can clear your query,Entire TN is interlinked to get power even one source is only working. I got this by chance, may be confidential

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/997/picture1nn.jpg

wow..nice find Deepu..

Deepu.. Very nice find. TFS...:cheers: I was searching for such grid map for long time.


I dont think there is a need to take up Chennai-Pondy 6 laning project now, maybe upto Mamallapuram wud be benficial.

There is no much traffic on this route, especially after opening of the 6 laning of Pondy-Tindivanam section the traffic has further reduced.

I agree, but it will be required in future looking it developments happening around coastal TN right from Siruseri to Nagapattinam. It could be included in vision 2023 ;)

Thanks deepu :)

But looks like the Transmission corridor is already congested (?!?!?) and needs upgradation from what it is now. Is this ETC different from the pic posted by deepu? (Intra? Inter?)

I posted a news on it a short while back (I have quoted it below). I guess this ETC upgradation Kannan is talking about.

Madurai: The Madras High Court bench here on Tuesday ordered notice to the Centre on a petition seeking to decongest Electrical Transmission Corridor (ETC) so that Tamil Nadu could get power purchased from other states.

Admitting a PIL in this regard by B Stalin, an advocate, Justice Chitra Venkatraman and Justice R Karuppiah ordered notice to Union Power Ministry among others.

The petitioner submitted that the Centre should be directed to ease out the ETC congestion, which according to him, resulted in non-supply of electricity to Tamil Nadu from other states, including Gujarat and Uttar Pradesh.

The counsel for the petitioner said the state government had made arrangements for purchasing 500 mw of power from Gujarat and 727 mw from Uttar Pradesh. But it could not be tapped due to electrical transmission line congestion, he said.

The petitioner also sought to restrain the Centre from supplying power generated by Neyveli Lignite Corporation (NLC) to other states until energy crisis in Tamil Nadu was solved.

He said the power generated from NLC was sufficient to meet the demands of Tamil Nadu and hence the energy should not be shared with other states.

PTI


http://zeenews.india.com/news/tamil-nadu/hc-orders-notice-to-centre-on-decongestion-of-etc_766447.html

excellent work Deepu...

Under attack from political parties for the steep hike in power tariff, Tamil Nadu Chief Minister Jayalalithaa on Tuesday announced subsidising part of the increase for domestic consumers.

Making a suo motu statement in the state assembly, Ms. Jayalalithaa said the present move will benefit 1.5 crore families and announced an additional subsidy of Rs 740 crore to the Tamil Nadu Electricity Board taking the total subsidy allocation for the department this year to Rs 4294.16 crore.

She said domestic consumers consuming 100 units for two months will have to pay Re. 1 per unit as against Rs 1.10 announced in the revision last week.

“Domestic consumers consuming up to 200 units for two months will need to pay Rs 1.50 as against Rs 1.80” announced by the Tamil Nadu Electricity Regulatory Commission last week.

Similarly, domestic consumers using between 201 to 500 units will have to pay Rs. 2 against Rs 3 for first 200 units and Rs. 3 against Rs 3.50 from 201 to 500 units.

Ms. Jayalalithaa’s announcement was welcomed by ruling benches amid thumping of desks even as opposition DMDK, DMK earlier staged a walkout after Speaker D Jayakumar denied permission to discuss the issue.

The government move was necessitated following public demand for a rollback of power tariff hike though the state government did not have the powers to withdraw the revision as it was announced by TNERC involving the public in the consultation process prior to the hike, she said.

Ms. Jayalalithaa maintained that financial mismanagement in the previous DMK regime had pushed the TNEB into a debt trap and this government was already taking steps to set right both the financial health of the department and implement more power generation projects.

The TNERC had announced a 37 per cent hike in the power tariff to fetch an additional Rs 7,874 crore and bail out the electricity board which is in the red.
http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/tamil-nadu/article3276470.ece

Look at the comments! Its unbelievable. Even the so called upwardly mobile people want subsidized power in the garb of "middle class".

I liked this comment though:
Common man can spend money on flashy cell phones, multiplexes..etc and when it comes to bus, milk and electricity, they would expect it to be given free of cost.

This is utter rubbish. People are paying taxes not for others to have a free lunch but to improve on the facilities offered. If somebody has the luxury to buy to fridge, mixie, fan, grinder, AC, washing machine..etc by spending close to 1 lakh, they should not suffer spending 1000 or 2000 on electricity.

we can spend 10 lakh to buy a premier car but will yell when there is 2 or 3 rupees hike in petrol prices.

If you cannot afford, why do you need the luxury. Go in city bus, stick to electric fan and washing clothes yourself.
from: vijay
Posted on: Apr 3, 2012 at 14:11 IST

Tamil Nadu Chief Minister Ms J. Jayalalithaa's staking a claim to the entire electricity to be generated from the 2,000 megawatt (MW) Koodankulam nuclear power project merits consideration. Not because of the acute power shortage that the State is currently reeling under, but to give practical shape to the national goal of ensuring energy security consistent with the multilateral commitments on controlling greenhouse gas emissions. For all the Centre's protestations on having done ‘due diligence' with regard to site location, engineering design, plant safety, etc, the fact remains that sections of the public, especially those in the project area, have serious misgivings about nuclear power. Compounding the problem is the model of nuclear power generation, which involves setting up plants in a few select places, with each such project site housing significantly larger capacities than what used to be the norm earlier.

The existing 20 nuclear plants in India have a combined capacity of less than 5,000 MW, each typically of 220 MW and going up to 540 MW. As against this, Koodankulam alone is expected to have at least another two 1,000 MW reactors, if not more. Similarly, the proposed nuclear complex at Jaitapur in Maharashtra is seen to eventually house 10,000 MW of generation capacity. Implementing projects of this scale requires bringing the respective States, too, into the picture, not just for acquiring land and managing the local environment amidst growing NGO activism, but even to handle emergency evacuations of the sort seen after the Fukushima nuclear disaster of 2011. It calls for an altogether different level of Centre-State cooperation, including establishing joint risk management and safety assessment mechanisms. The right precedent here would probably be the Delhi Metro, which succeeded only because of the Delhi Government under Ms Sheila Dikshit being made an equal partner in the venture. In the case of Koodankulam, one should give some credit to Ms Jayalalithaa's Government for announcing a Rs 500 crore package for infrastructure development in the area, with a view to allay apprehensions of the local communities. And it is not only in Koodankulam; in all large nuclear projects under conception, States would have to play a more active role. Common sense, then, demands that the Centre endows them with a stake in the success of projects, going far beyond the existing 50:50 formula of power sharing between the host State and those in the neighbourhood.

While allocating the entire power from Koodankulam to Tamil Nadu is one way of ensuring its success, one can offer other justifications as well for the State Government’s stance. For instance, if States are entitled to royalty on their coal reserves used in thermal power stations, why cannot a similar incentive be given to those bearing the disproportionate risks on account of hosting nuclear plants? The broader point is that India's grand ambitions of developing 50,000 MW of nuclear power capacity in the next 15 years cannot be realised without getting the States on board.
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/opinion/editorial/article3277679.ece?homepage=true

Well argued piece. Nuclear power is a special case and if the states want the power from it, they have to set up plant in their own soil.

However I dont think it is proper for TN to ask for the entire share. The host state should get somewhere in the vicinity of 70-75% with the rest divided among the neighboring states.

It is easier and practical to solve the present logjam wrt transmission issues.

AP quota from NLC, Kalpakkam & Koodankulam can be exchanged for Power from AP based plants - Ramagundam etc.

TN buys power from Lanco Udupi plant. The same can be exchanged for Karnataka quota from TN based plants.

TN wants to buy from Gujarat but no grid availability.
Gujarat can give to Maha. Maha can give to Karnataka and Karnataka share from TN can be used within TN itself.

Thanks Deepu for the excellent diagram on TN Grid.

The capacity of the Grid from South to West is not enough to wheel Koodankulam or Tuticorin power. That's the issue. They may have to double it immediately.

TN wants to buy from Gujarat but no grid availability.
Gujarat can give to Maha. Maha can give to Karnataka and Karnataka share from TN can be used within TN itself.

Kannan, your idea is nice. But, Gujarat, Maharashtra, Karnataka and TN might not have the same price for a unit of power. So, this logic might not be practically possible.

It is easier and practical to solve the present logjam wrt transmission issues.

AP quota from NLC, Kalpakkam & Koodankulam can be exchanged for Power from AP based plants - Ramagundam etc.

TN buys power from Lanco Udupi plant. The same can be exchanged for Karnataka quota from TN based plants.

TN wants to buy from Gujarat but no grid availability.
Gujarat can give to Maha. Maha can give to Karnataka and Karnataka share from TN can be used within TN itself.

The problem is TN Govt. has no interest to buy power now, considering financial position.

Dues pending from past purchases from exchanges and to wind mills operators are yet to be settleed.

Even, Navin Jndal's visit here was to expedite payments for their power exchange. Some of us dreamt about investments when he met JJ.

Thatha was managing the show by buying power from all sources without payment ..and there was no limitation on Grid then.

Even now TN gets more than 2200 MWs from CG plants in other states.

It may take two years to pay back all pending bills. Till then JJ will not buy power, unless some one gives it free for the time being.

@ Leo R

You are wrong.

Many private players are supplying power to TANGEDCO but at different terms & conditions. A part of old dues are also cleared along with new dues.

Actually, the non peak hour supplies are quite cheap @ less than Rs. 3/- per kwh. But not much can be bought due to transmission issues. Actually TANGEDCO may request factories to work mainly during non peak hours to make use of the supply.

Kannan, your idea is nice. But, Gujarat, Maharashtra, Karnataka and TN might not have the same price for a unit of power. So, this logic might not be practically possible.

It is only the power quantity - MW- which is counted and not the money since they are simple exchanges only. If I give x MW, I get x MW.

TN may pay Gujarat at the agreed rates.

Power Demand 2006:8209 MW
Power Demand 2012 :11,700 MW

TN Govt. Debt in 2006 :Rs 57.457 Crores
TNEB Debt in 2006 : Rs 5000 Crores

Accumulated loss of TNEB : Rs 50,000 Crores.
TNEB Debt as on 2012 : Rs 45,000 Crores
TNEB Payment Arrears : Rs 11,000 Crores

A TNEB expert , a former IAS officer said in one of the discussions that it is not just possible to buy power till some amount of liquidity in the finance front is achieved..

TN Govt was buying more than 1000 MW for many months before 2011..Main reason for building a huge debt..

Private Units within TN are also a huge drain on TNEB (Gas Turbine based) PPA at Rs 13 per UNit is very unwise.

If tommorow CG decides to help TN, even 2000 MWs will be hauled across the GRID.

It is only the power quantity - MW- which is counted and not the money since they are simple exchanges only. If I give x MW, I get x MW.

TN may pay Gujarat at the agreed rates.

Oh... I see... :) Thanks for the clarification.

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திருச்சி ‘ பெல்‘ நிறுவனத்தின் மொத்த வருவாய் 2011 2012ம் நிதியாண்டில் 14 ஆயிரத்து 600 கோடி என்று செயலாண்மை இயக்குனர் ஏ.வி. கிருஷ்ணன் தெரிவித்தார்.

திருச்சி பாய்லர் ஆலை (பெல்) செயலாண்மை இயக்குனர் ஏ.வி. கிருஷ்ணன் நிருபர்களுக்கு நேற்று பேட்டியளித்தார். அப்போது அவர் கூறியதாவது:

ரூ.14,600 கோடி
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திருமயத்தில் 3வது யூனிட் திறப்பு
திருச்சி பெல்லின் இரண்டாவது யூனிட்டில் வெற்றிகரமாக உற்பத்தி நடந்து வருகிறது. புதுக்கோட்டை மாவட்டம் திருமயத்தில் அமைக்கப்பட்டுள்ள மூன்றாவது யூனிட்டில் தற்போது பரீட்சார்த்தமாக உற்பத்தி தொடங்கி நடந்து வருகிறது. 3வது யூனிட்டின் திறப்பு விழா வருகிற சித்திரை மாதம் நடைபெற இருக்கிறது. இதனை தொடர்ந்து நடப்பு நிதியாண்டிலேயே அங்கு அதிகாரப்பூர்வமாக ஆலைக்குழாய் உற்பத்தி தொடங்கும். நாட்டிலேயே முதல் முறையாக திருச்சி பெல்லில் நிலக்கரி ஆராய்ச்சி மையமும் நிறுவப்பட்டு உள்ளது.

20 ஆயிரம் மெகாவாட்
திருச்சி பாய்லர் ஆலையின் உற்பத்தி திறன் மேம்பாட்டை 20 ஆயிரம் மெகாவாட்டுக்கு உயர்த்திட முன் எப்போதும் இல்லாத அளவில் முதலீட்டு திட்டங்கள் வகுக்கப்பட்டு இதுவரை 15 ஆயிரம் மெகாவாட் உற்பத்தி திறன் எட்டப்பட்டு உள்ளது.
முன்னேறிய உயர் அழுத்த சூப்பர் கிரிட்டிகல் தொழில்நுட்பத்தை பயன்படுத்துவதில் ஒரு பெரிய முயற்சியாக ஒரு 800 மெகாவாட் திறன் கொண்ட நீராவி கொதிகலனை திருச்சி பெல் வெற்றிரமாக வடிவமைத்து உள்ளது.

லாபம் குறைந்தது
இரும்பு உள்பட மூலப்பொருட்களின் விலை உயர்வு, உற்பத்தி செய்யப்பட்ட பொருட்களுக்கு சர்வதேச சந்தையில் விலை சரிவு, சம்பள உயர்வு, மின்வெட்டு உள்பட பல்வேறு காரணங்களால் பெல் சர்வதேச சந்தையில் கடும் போட்டியை சமாளிக்கவேண்டியது உள்ளது. இதனால் கடந்த ஆண்டு லாபமான ரூ.3 ஆயிரத்து 253 கோடியில் இருந்து இந்த ஆண்டு லாபம் 3 ஆயிரத்து 120 கோடியாக குறைந்து உள்ளது. இருந்தாலும் லாபத்தில் வீழ்ச்சி ஏற்படாத வகையில் சவால்களை சமாளித்து வருகிறோம்.

1350 பேர் நியமனம்
திருச்சி பெல்லில் இந்த ஆண்டு புதிதாக 1844 பேர் பணியமர்த்தப்பட்டு உள்ளனர். மேலும் 750 தொழில் நுட்ப பணியாளர்கள், 300 நிர்வாக அதிகாரிகள், 300 சூபர்வைசர்கள் நியமிக்கப்பட இருக்கிறார்கள். சமூக பொறுப்புணர்வு திட்டத்திற்கு திருச்சி பெல் நடப்பு நிதியாண்டில் ஒரு கோடியே ஒரு லட்சம் ஒதுக்கி உள்ளது. இவ்வாறு அவர் கூறினார்.

-MRR/T.P.

Uppur thermal power plant proposal put on back burner ..

http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-tamilnadu/article3282674.ece

I read recently that in 2003, TN Govt signed a MOU with NLC for 750 MW supply to TN from their latest plant, but CG hoodwinked TN and supplied only 385 MW and DMK Govt accepted it, thinking that it is an additional allotment from the central pool.

CG Eppadiyellam ematharangappa ?

CG Eppadiyellam ematharangappa ?

Emaaravanga irukkira varaikum! ;-)

TANGEDCO's losses to be neutralised over time

In a move that will imply some relief in future to electricity consumers, the State government has given in-principle approval for absorption of previous losses of the Tamil Nadu Generation and Distribution Corporation (TANGEDCO) over a period of time.

In legal parlance, such losses, meant to be recovered from the consumers in future, are called regulatory asset, which actually forms part of liabilities. The absorption of the losses is sought to be achieved through amortisation. To put it in layman's language, if the government does not come forward to amortise the regulatory asset, that much of the losses will have to be recovered from consumers.

In its communication sent about 10 days ago, the government informed the Tamil Nadu Electricity Regulatory Commission (TNERC) that exact details and mechanism would be worked out in conjunction with tariff revision and the TANGEDCO's improvement due to internal savings. In the middle of March, the Commission had addressed the issue to the government. An official explains that the government's idea is to ensure that the losses are neutralised through its support to share capital of the power utility and saving of cost to be accomplished by internal efficiency of the TANGEDCO.

According to the Commission's latest tariff revision order, the regulatory asset is proposed to be amortised over five years, commencing from 2013-14. Once the exact figure of the regulatory asset is arrived at, one-fifth of the regulatory asset will be amortised along with the carrying cost. When the tariff order for 2014-15 is issued, the regulatory asset will be re-worked and one-fourth of such regulatory asset amortised in that tariff order along with that cost. It will go on till the entire regulatory asset was amortized.

The Commission did not provide, in its tariff order, the exact figure of regulatory assets and stated that only during next year, the exact figure could be worked out as full data would, by then, be available.

Even in its previous tariff order issued in July 2010, the TNERC allowed the creation of regulatory assets to the tune of around Rs.17,456 crore, taking into account the projected revenue gap to be experienced by the now-defunct Tamil Nadu Electricity Board from 2010-11 to 2012-13. At that time, when asked whether the tariff hike in future would be steep as the TNERC accepted the principle of regulatory assets, the then chairman S. Kabilan had replied that electricity consumers' interests would definitely be taken into account at the time of carrying out the next power tariff revision. The Commission would use its discretion and it would not force a “sharp hike.”

In the latest order, the Commission stated that the creation of regulatory asset could not be avoided in view of the accumulation of uncovered deficit over a period due to phenomenal load growth, less addition to the generating capacity, high power purchase costs, increase in costs and non-filing of tariff petition. If tariff was to be increased for the entire revenue gap, it would have resulted in a tariff shock. It was also to be noted that the current tariff hike was to the tune of Rs.7,875 crore, accounting for average increase of 37% over earlier tariff.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/tamil-nadu/article3284770.ece

Wonder how many laymen know the meaning of the word 'amortise' !! :|

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The Thirumayam plant of Bharat Heavy Electricals Limited will be formally inaugurated shortly.

Trial production has already commenced at the Power Plant Piping Unit (PPPU) where an annual output of 20,000 metric tonnes of critical piping components is expected, according to A.V. Krishnan, Executive Director, BHEL, Tiruchi Complex, under the control of which the Thirumayam unit will function. Other units in Tiruchi complex constitute High Pressure Boiler Plant and Seamless Steel Tube Plant in Tiruchi, Piping Centre at Chennai, and Industrial Valves Plant at Goindwal in Punjab.

The Thirumayam unit was started under Phase III expansion for equipping the Tiruchi Complex with an overall installed capacity of 15,000 MW per annum, corresponding to 20,000 MW for the Corporation. Pipes for boiler and non-boiler applications will be manufactured at the Thirumayam plant, Mr. Krishnan said, adding that 590 fresh recruits have been inducted as artisans. Out of the overall manpower strength of about 700, the rest would constitute executives and supervisors.

During the year, the BHEL inducted 1,844 fresh recruits, including 1,091 artisan with ITI qualifications, 242 supervisor trainees, 298 engineer and executive trainees, 200 security personnel and 13 specialists for research and development.

An annual output of 20,000 metric tonnes has been envisaged from the Thirumayam PPPU, he said. The plant has come up on a 40-acre site, and the BHEL is looking for an additional 60 acres for building a township and shipping (storage) area.

The plant will further strengthen the contribution of Tiruchi Complex to the overall turnover and profit of the Corporation. The Tiruchi Complex has been contributing 30 per cent of the company's overall turnover and 40 per cent of the group's profit.

Piping business, a major growth area, registered significant increase with the piping centre at Chennai achieving an all time high output of 78,598 tonnes. Major piping orders secured included for DB Power 2 x 660 MW, Singaneri 2 x 600 MW, APIL Kaizen 1 x 300 MW, Sintex infra 2x 150 MW, and OPAL Dahej IBR Piping. A record 4,000 pipe bends were manufactured during the year.

Pipe bending machines of 600 mm capacity for Thirumayam PPPU are expected to achieve significant cost reduction.

Source : The Hindu (http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-tamilnadu/article3286237.ece)
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The Centre on Saturday said it is confident of commissioning the first unit of the Kudankulam Nuclear Power Project to generate 1,000 MW of power in two months as 99 per cent of its works are over.

Talking to reporters in Madurai, Union Minister of State in the PMO V. Narayanaswamy said, “We only need to load uranium in the first unit for its functioning”.

Regarding the second unit, he said only five per cent works remain to be completed and almost all construction activities were over.

He said the Centre was looking into Tamil Nadu’s demand for allocation of entire power to be generated from the KNPP to the state.

“It is under the serious consideration of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh,” he said, and hoped that a good decision will be taken on the matter.

He said “as of now” Tamil Nadu government would get 965 MW of power from the two units.
http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/tamil-nadu/article3290525.ece

Even as hundreds of contract labourers from various north Indian States have started returning to the Kudankulam Nuclear Power Project site, their local counterparts in villages around the project site have decided to be a part of the workforce.

The anti-nuclear protesters, in a bid to stop construction activities at the project site, had prevented local contract labourers from going to work there. They got the migrant labourers from north India, who had settled down in rented accommodation at Kudankulam, Irukkanthurai, Chettikulam and Vairaavikinaru, evicted by their landlords, forcing them to leave for their hometowns in September and October.

After the State government's decision to facilitate the commissioning of the plant, the contract labourers from the north, whose strength at one point had crossed 6,000, have started returning to the KKNPP site.

Kudankulam panchayat president Sandal Muthuraj, who was once an integral part of the anti-KKNPP protest, is now giving his consent to the local contract labourers.

“We've received more than 60 applications from Kudankulam alone and issued NOC to most of them,” said a police officer.
http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/tamil-nadu/article3288189.ece

Work on 800 mw natural gas plant nearing completion

Work on the 800 Mw 'Natural Gas Plant' at Uthiragosha Mangai near Ramanathapuram is nearing completion and it would start functioning soon, Tamil Nadu Handloom and Textile Minister S.Sundarraj today said. Talking to newsmen here, he said the State government had sanctioned railway overbridges between Ramanathapuram and Keelakarai and Paramakudi-Muthukulathur road at a cost of around Rs.75 crore. Besides Rameswaram town would get Underground drainage system, costing Rs 34.31 crore. Tourist infrastructure facilities in this island were being provided at a cost of Rs.13 crore,he said.

http://ibnlive.in.com/generalnewsfeed/news/work-on-800-mw-natural-gas-plant-nearing-completion/983743.html

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800MW Natural gas power plant ??? I guess it is either wrong reporting or the minister is blabbering. I couldn't find any authentic result for such huge project u/c at Ramnad dt in google search.

M/s Arkay Energy (Rameswaram) Limited.,
Valuthur Village, Ramanathapuram Taluk & District.

http://www.tnpcb.gov.in/publichearing.htm

Proposed to the Expansion of Gas Based Power Plant by addition of 10 x 8.73 MW and each HRSE (6.0 MW). 04.07.2011 @ 04.30 P.M Office of the District Collector, Ramnad District, Ramnad. District Environmental Engineer,
Tamilnadu Pollution Control Board, 6/26, Gangai Street, Madurai Road, Virudhunagar -626 001.
Phone: 954562 2430620

http://www.tnpcb.gov.in/pdf/Exe_Sum_Arkay_Eng.pdf

Maybe this could be the one they are reporting....but nothing close to 800 MW.

CHENNAI: Power equipment major Bharat Heavy Electricals Ltd (BHEL) has assured Tamil Nadu government that it would complete the 1,600 MW Udangudi power project by the target date of 2015, a senior official said.

"We have written to the Tamil Nadu government that there will not be any delay in setting up the power project. We have told the state government that the company's production capacity has gone up to 20,000 MW and there will not be any capacity constraints in executing the project," BHEL general manager(Power Sector Southern Region) Anil Kumar Ghosh told reporters here.

Asked whether the company wanted to execute the project as a joint venture partner or as mere equipment supplier Ghosh said: "We are interested in continuing the joint venture and not just as an equipment supplier."

Chief Minister J. Jayalalithaa in February announced the cancellation of the Rs.8,000 crore joint venture, citing the lack of progress after a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) was signed between the Tamil Nadu Electricity Board (TNEB) and BHEL in 2007.

The state government would fully fund the project, she said adding that it would be executed by TNEB as a state project with imported coal.

In 2008, TNEB and BHEL floated a joint venture company Udangudi Power Corporation Ltd, each taking 26 percent. The balance 48 percent stake was to be contributed by a private player participating in the project or by a financial institution funding the project. The project is yet to get a coal linkage or environmental clearance.

The joint venture partners have invested Rs.32.5 crore each and completed the site levelling activities at the project site.

"It will take at least five to six months for the state government to finalise the terms of contract if it opts out of the joint venture and goes on its own there by further delaying the project," Ghosh said.

BHEL does not have much leverage as the project land is yet to be registered in the name of Udangudi Power Corporation, power sector analysts said.

"The project will get the mega power status if implemented by TNEB which in turn would be eligible for tax and other concessions. The overall project cost may come down by Rs.900 crore which in turn would result reducing the power cost," the Tamil Nadu Generation and Distribution Corporation (Tangedco) official said.
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/news-by-industry/indl-goods-/-svs/engineering/bhel-still-keen-on-udangudi-power-project/articleshow/12578311.cms

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800MW Natural gas power plant ??? I guess it is either wrong reporting or the minister is blabbering. I couldn't find any authentic result for such huge project u/c at Ramnad dt in google search.

A feasibility study was conducted in Ramnad district to set up a 800MW PP in Utharakosamangai and another at Tiruvaadaanai. Don't know whether they are coal powered or natural gas powered.


Ramanad District: Thermal power stations likely

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As a next major step that will ensure significant increase in the power production in the State, a team led by Hansraj Varma, the chairman and managing director of Tamil Nadu Electricity Board (TNEB), and other technical experts, on Tuesday visited Ramanathapuram district to conduct a feasibility study on establishing two mega thermal power plants one at Thiru Uthirakosamangai and the other at Thiruvadanai.
The TNEB has decided to instal two units each in both these plants. Around 800 MW power can be generated from one unit and a large quantity of power can be sent to the grid later. The team ascertained from local TNEB officials details regarding availability of coal and other infrastructure facilities to establish the plants. Probably if team finds the plants are feasible, the next process will be land acquisition in the respective locations.
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http://ibnlive.in.com/news/ramanad-district-thermal-power-stations-likely/159478-60-118.html

News date is June 15, 2011 and land acquisition was about to begin according to the article.No chances for commissioning it this quick. :nuts: Works for setting it may begin soon and the news reporter could have made a mess.

2,350 MW more power in 6 months

Tamil Nadu is expected to produce 4,250 MW power by the end of this financial year from projects where BHEL is a stakeholder, according to chief executive officer of Bharat Heavy Electricals Limited power sector southern region Anil Kumar Ghosh.

Addressing a press conference here on Saturday, he said the State would produce 2,350 MW more within six months of this financial year through projects being worked by BHEL. “These include 500 MW from Valur unit, 600 MW from North Chennai, 1,000 MW from Koodankulam and 250 MW from Neyveli Lignite Corporation.” Another 500 MW from Valur, 600 MW from North Chennai, 250 MW from Neyveli and 500 MW from Thoothukudi is expected by the end of the financial year. He also said that Udangudi power project, which was a joint venture between BHEL and TNEB, is expected to take off soon.


http://ibnlive.in.com/news/2350-mw-more-power--in-6-months/246783-60-120.html

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M/s Arkay Energy (Rameswaram) Limited.,
Valuthur Village, Ramanathapuram Taluk & District.

http://www.tnpcb.gov.in/publichearing.htm

Proposed to the Expansion of Gas Based Power Plant by addition of 10 x 8.73 MW and each HRSE (6.0 MW). 04.07.2011 @ 04.30 P.M Office of the District Collector, Ramnad District, Ramnad. District Environmental Engineer,
Tamilnadu Pollution Control Board, 6/26, Gangai Street, Madurai Road, Virudhunagar -626 001.
Phone: 954562 2430620

http://www.tnpcb.gov.in/pdf/Exe_Sum_Arkay_Eng.pdf

Maybe this could be the one they are reporting....but nothing close to 800 MW.

A feasibility study was conducted in Ramnad district to set up a 800MW PP in Utharakosamangai and another at Tiruvaadaanai. Don't know whether they are coal powered or natural gas powered.



News date is June 15, 2011 and land acquisition was about to begin according to the article.No chances for commissioning it this quick. :nuts: Works for setting it may begin soon and the news reporter could have made a mess.

The one you have posted in for thermal power plant i.e Utharakosamangai power plant became Thiruvadanai/Uppur thermal power plant and capacity would be 1600MW approx.

But the news was about 800MW natual gas turbine power plant. As Karkal posted it should be 80MW only.

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Super Thx for posting...

konja nalaikku nai thontharavu illama irukkum intha paguthi...:lol:

b/w from the rendering it looks engineering/drawings/equipment manufacturing everything is going to happen in PRC. i.e it should be cut/copy/past and translate to english from implemented project in PRC to this new project. More than 80% of engineering time is saved this way and equipment manufacturing time line also come down considerably. And looking at the crane no. in this ground breaking time, I guess they will come up very fast and will create some records in power plant construction/execution in TN compared to other plants. Normally in PRC construction of a steel plant/cement plant/ power plant takes 50% less time compared to our case... i.e in simple term, the expense that will happen for 2years here to get a product delivered will take 1 yr in China with similar cost. And this is termed as cheaper than us. :nuts:

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What is NTP date? Is it the same as given in the poster (December 2010)? So can we expect the whole project to be completed by 2014?

Btw Thanks Anniyan! TFS (apdina ennanu enakku theriyaathu. ellarum solraangannu naanum solren).

NTP - notice to proceed.

this link says it was issued in feb 2010.

http://www.powergridindia.com/Pgcil_new/Files/Minutes_3rd_Joint_Co-ordination_Committee_Meeting.pdf


this link says phase-I of 1,200 MW will be fired by 2014, and it will add 800 MW every six months.

http://www.financialexpress.com/news/pes-to-pick-74-in-il&fs-power-plant-for-r4k-cr/925463/0

tfs - thanks for sharing

Oh this means the deadline is May 2013 for unit 1 and August 2013 for unit 2. Can the Chinese pull it off? I hope so but dont think it is possible looking at the pics.

TFS Anniyan!

Huge investment....:cheers:

The company needs to invest roughly R18,000 crore over the next four years to build its full capacity. “We need to spend roughly R5 crore to produce a megawatt of power with imported coal,” the same person said

Happy to see two major power projects is taking off at Cuddalore/Nagapattinam belt. One is IL&FS and another one is Chettinad power.

IL&FS - 18000 crores - 3800 MW
Chettinad - 8000 crores - 1300 MW
NLC TPS - 1 replacement - 6000 crores - 1000 MW
PEL power - 6000 crores - 1000 MW

Total - 38000 crores - 7100MW

2500MW existing Neyveli capacity.. so this region alone will produce around 9000MW of power by 2016. I guess power grid is also investing huge amount in power transmission from this coast to hinter-lands.

NOCL - 5000 crores is another major investment in this coast.

Huge investment....:cheers:

The company needs to invest roughly R18,000 crore over the next four years to build its full capacity. “We need to spend roughly R5 crore to produce a megawatt of power with imported coal,” the same person said

Happy to see two major power projects is taking off at Cuddalore/Nagapattinam belt. One is IL&FS and another one is Chettinad power.

IL&FS - 18000 crores - 3800 MW
Chettinad - 8000 crores - 1300 MW
NLC TPS - 1 replacement - 6000 crores - 1000 MW
PEL power - 6000 crores - 1000 MW

Total - 38000 crores - 7100MW

2500MW existing Neyveli capacity.. so this region alone will produce around 9000MW of power by 2016. I guess power grid is also investing huge amount in power transmission from this coast to hinter-lands.

NOCL - 5000 crores is another major investment in this coast.

3600 Arul.

Can you update your excel sheet (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=86756687&postcount=767) and repost it? As of January 31, 1 unit (250 MW) of Neyveli was fired up. 1st unit of Vallur (500 MW) was synchronized on March 10, and the trial run on 600 MW Mettur TPS was started on March 25th. North Chennai to start trial run at the end of this month.

Further, from the document Anniyan provided, it is clear that PEL and Ind Bharat are both progressing with a scheduled completion of 2014. You have included them in "paper works" section. I guess you can upgrade them to "progress" section. Uppur is being delayed and can be left there itself with a "delayed" quote added. You havent mentioned Chettinad in the list. Perhaps you can add it with a scheduled completion date of 2014.

Also you can split the IL&FS (3600MW) into two phases with the first phase (two units 600 MW each = total 1200MW) scheduled for completion in 2013 and phase 2 (3x800MW = 2400MW) scheduled for completion over 18 months between 2014-2015.

Thats it for now. I will update you if I find anything else missing.

Anniyan ,TFS Parangipettai Project site photographs..Hope 1 st phase is commissioned in April ,2015.

Transmission Infrastructure Projects ::

TNEB is taking up three Transmission projects this year.

1)Pugalur - Ottiambakkam 385 KMs 400 KV DC

2)Kayathar - Karaikudi 180 KMs 400 KV DC

3)Karaikudi - Pugalur 250 KMs 400 KV DC

So all future Transmission lines will be in DC at 400 KV. Very nice. 765 KV will still be better.

Kayathar in South TN. Pugalur in CentralTN. Ottiumbakkam near Chennai. So whole TN will becovered with future ready transmission network when completed

EHT for a total length of 24,000 Kms.

A total of 830 substations

95 Substations in and around Chennai have been provided withSCADA and have been integrated into Chennai Distribution and control center (DCC)
TANTRANSCO has one State Load Dispatch Centre at Chennai and 3 Sub LDCs at Chennai, Madurai and Erode.

List of Proposed 400 KV SS

1 Kayathar Power evacuation (from Udangudi JVP & WFP) and Back bone network scheme
2 Kanarpatty Wind Power evacuation Scheme
3 Ottiampakkam Back bone network & Greater Chennai system strengthening scheme
4 Anaikadavu Wind Power evacuation Scheme
5 Rasipalayam Wind Power evacuation Scheme
6 Thappagundu Wind Power evacuation Scheme
7 Korattur Strengthening of Chennai network
8 Karamadai Power evacuation Scheme

Bhel awaits Ennore port nod to unload equipment (http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/bhel-awaits-ennore-port-nod-to-unload-equipment/470557/)

Commissioning of 600-Mw thermal project may get delayed

With Bharat Heavy Electricals Limited (Bhel) awaiting consent from Ennore Port Ltd to bring in and unload a critical component for power generation in its yard near here, commissioning of a 600-Mw thermal power unit in north Chennai for the power-deficient Tamil Nadu Electricity Board has been hit by uncertainty .

A 380-tonne stator motor for the unit has already been moved from Bhel’s Haridwar plant in Uttarakhand to Mundra port in Gujarat. It is now to be shipped from Mundra to Ennore, near here, but the latter has conveyed its apprehension that the unloading of heavy equipment would damage the port infrastructure, said AK Ghosh, CEO, Bhel Power Sector – Southern Region (PSSR).

“The port authority has raised its apprehension and has not given consent to ship the product, so it is waiting at Mundra Port. We are making some presentations and giving some clarification to the authorities to clear their apprehensions,” said Ghosh.

Last year, a stator motor transported from Hardwar unit of Bhel by road for the project fell in a river. This delayed the project by seven months, chief minister J Jayalalithaa had said.

This time they have taken the sea route to avoid any such mishap. While Bhel has announced its plans to launch the north Chennai project in the next six to eight months, delay in bringing in the equipment to the site would result in further delay in commissioning of the project. The consignment could be only routed through Ennore port, said a company official.

“We are keeping everything else ready so that we could commission the project within two to three months from getting the consent from Ennore port to unload the equipment,” said Ghosh.

Of the 2 units of 600 Mw thermal plants coming up in north Chennai, Unit 2 would be commissioned first. Another stator motor for Unit 1, which would be commissioned later, would be brought from Haridwar in May, this year.

Ennore port is a miniratna category-I public sector undertaking of the Government of India under the shipping ministry and is registered as a company

Tamil Nadu to set up 2 LNG power plants


The Tamil Nadu government is planning to set up two 500-Mw LNG-based power plants to address the electricity shortage in the state.

One of the plants would be set up near the five-million-tonne-per-annum Indian Oil Corporation terminal that was set up after a memorandum of understanding was signed. The second plant plans to take advantage of GAIL’s Kochi-Bangalore LNG pipeline, which passes through Tamil Nadu.

Both the projects will attract investments of around Rs 3,500 crore, according to experts.
It was estimated that the capital cost of a natural gas-based station in combined cycle is around Rs 3.5 crore per Mw.

The state, which is facing power cuts between two and 10 hours because of 4,000-Mw electricity shortage, is looking at all possibilities to address the shortage.

Speaking at the Assembly, Chief Minister J Jayalalithaa said the Centre was not providing enough coal for thermal power plants in the state. “So, we have to look at alternative sources like LNG”.

LNG power plants can be built in a shorter time than coal, she added.

According to Crisil, a new LNG-based power plant can be set up in 28-30 months, whereas conventional source, have gestation periods ranging from 48 to 84 months.

The research firm also said dedicated plants operating in open cycle in proximity to load centres can meet peak demand. LNG plants have about 50 per cent lesser emission than a coal-based station. The land and water requirements are also substantially lower.

The state government had on March 22, signed a memorandum of understanding with public sector IOC, which will attract investment of around Rs 10,000 crore.

The state government will look for land as close as possible to the terminal to set up the power plant.

http://business-standard.com/india/news/tamil-nadu-to-set2-lng-power-plants/470602/

Energy-related engineering and manufacturing enterprise Bharat Heavy Electricals Ltd (BHEL) has approached the Tamil Nadu government to reconsider its decision on cancelling a joint venture (JV) for the Rs 8000-crore Udangudi power project in downstate Tuticorin.

"We have written to the state government that we have enhanced our capacity to 20,000 Mw. So, considering our order-book size, we can complete the project within the set target of December 2015 if the job is given to us," said A K Ghosh, chief executive officer of the state-owned BHEL's power sector (southern region), called PSSR. He was speaking to reporters after announcing the performance results for PSSR, which handles the erection, commissioning and servicing of the 1953-founded company's power projects in southern part of the country.

In February this year, Tamil Nadu had announced its decision to dissolve the JV it had with Bhel to set up the 1600-Mw Udangudi power project.

This, Chief Minister J Jayalalithaa said, was considering a lack of progress in the project after the signing of the memorandum of understanding for the project way back in 2007.

BHEL's Ghosh now says the project has been delaying since the Union environment ministry was not giving its nod, stating that a long-term coal linkage was not available for the project. Further, the government, he claims, is "not cooperating", expect for allocating its share of Rs 32.5 crore towards its stake in the project.

"If the government goes ahead with another partner, it would take some months to complete negotiations and finalise the new partner," Ghosh says. "Whereas, if we take up the project, we will meet the target of commissioning the project in December 2015."

With the project now delayed by four years, the government decided that TNEB, the state electricity board, would go ahead with the project on its own. It will also get a mega-power status, since it will be implemented by TNEB on its own. What's more, it will get tax incentives, thus helping to bring down the project cost.

As per the MoU, TNEB and Bhel will hold 26 per cent each in the company, while the remaining 48 per cent will be held by the private partner and a financial institution that are supporting the project. However, till May 2011, none of the private player had picked up the stake, said Jayalalithaa in February this year.

Projects in the pipeline

BHEL PSSR is expected to commission around 4,250 Mw, in through various projects, in the next six to eight months — all of them in Tamil Nadu.

These comprise a 2x500-Mw thermal project for NTECL in Vallur, 2x250-Mw thermal project for Neyveli Lignite Corporation in Neyveli, 2x600-Mw thermal project for TNEB in North Chennai, 1,000 MW of nuclear project for NPCIL in Kudankulam and a 500-Mw thermal project in Tuticorin.

It has posted a turnover of Rs 1200 crore for the fiscal year 2011-12, a 17.17 per cent drop from the last years' Rs 1449.12 crore turn over.

It has also reported a loss before tax of Rs 33.60 crore as against the profit before tax of Rs 99.47 crore posted during the same period of previous fiscal year.

The turnover target was around Rs 1500 crore. Some strategic realignment of projects, which resulted in transfer of around two projects of PSSR to the Eastern Region unit, thus reducing the turnover and profit before tax, said a higher official from PSSR.

Besides, the material cost including steel has seen a 2.5 per cent increase, which also affected the profit badly.

The unit is expecting around Rs 1850 crore turnover this year, with the order book position and the upcoming projects, said the official. PSSR has ongoing projects to the total size of 22,596 MW, at present.
http://business-standard.com/india/news/bhel-willing-to-continuetamil-naduudangudi-jv/470637/

SBI to part-finance NLC power project

The public sector Neyveli Lignite Corporation Ltd has signed an agreement with State Bank of India for partly financing its new 2x500 MW thermal power station project at Neyveli in Cuddalore district of Tamil Nadu. The mining and power generation company is setting up the project at an estimated cost of 5,907 crore.

NLC signed a rupee term loan agreement with SBI for 2,500 crore to meet a part of 70 per cent of debt portion required for the project. The fund will be on a 70:30 debt-equity ratio, NLC said in a statement. K. Sekar, Director (Finance) and S.B. Nayar, Deputy Managing Director and Group Executive, SBI, exchanged documents in the presence of NLC CMD A.R. Ansari and SBI Chairman Pratip Chaudhuri.

The two units of 500 MW each are expected to be commissioned in June 2015 and December 2015, respectively. Power purchase agreements have been signed with Tamil Nadu Generation and Distribution Corporation as well as distribution companies of other states. The fuel (lignite) for the project would be met after restructuring the existing Mine-I and Mine-IA by adding contiguous lignite blocks.

The 1,000-MW thermal power project will replace the existing TPS-I of 600 MW capacity at Neyveli. This is because the power generation from TPS-I is proposed to be tapered down between year 2009 and 2014 due to ageing of the plant. The Government of India sanctioned this project in June 2011.

http://www.projectsmonitor.com/ELECTRICITY/sbi-to-partfinance-nlc-power-project

Several thermal power projects gearing up for commissioning (http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/tamil-nadu/article3294312.ece)

http://www.thehindu.com/multimedia/dynamic/01047/09THPLANT_1047577f.jpg
AUGMENTING CAPACITY: A view of the Vallur thermal power plant. File photo: V. Ganesan
With an aggregate capacity of 3,450 MW, they are being executed by BHEL

Several coal-fired thermal power projects with an aggregate capacity of 3,450 MW are expected to be commissioned in Tamil Nadu in the current financial year, according to Bharat Heavy Electricals Limited (BHEL), the executing agency.

The projects are Vallur Thermal Power Project (two units of 500 mega watt each - 1,000 MW); North Chennai Thermal Power Station [NCTPS] (two additional units of 600 MW - 1,200 MW), Tuticorin thermal power project, jointly implemented by the Neyveli Lignite Corporation (NLC) and the Tamil Nadu Generation and Distribution Corporation (TANGEDCO) (1,000 MW) and Neyveli Thermal Power Station - II Expansion (one unit of 250 MW).

Of the total power projects of 22,596 MW capacity to be executed by this organisation in the region, Tamil Nadu alone would account for 6,920 MW. Besides the southern States, Odisha and Madhya Pradesh formed part of the region, A.K. Ghosh, General Manager, Power Sector-Southern Region, BHEL, said on Saturday.

During 2011-2012, the BHEL commissioned seven units, including one each in Vallur and Neyveli.

The second additional unit of the NCTPS would be commissioned earlier than the first unit, as the generator stator, meant for the first unit, fell into a riverbed in Madhya Pradesh while being transported from BHEL's Hardwar unit. Regarding delay in the completion of power projects in Tamil Nadu, Mr. Ghosh said that the projects were running behind schedule not only in Tamil Nadu but also elsewhere in the country because of problems in land acquisition and delay in project clearance.

On the performance of thermal stations established by the BHEL in the just-concluded financial year, he said the plant load factor (PLF) of the thermal stations at Mettur was 92.3 per cent, Neyveli Stage 2 was 86.3 per cent and NCTPS was 85.8 per cent.

Huge investment....:cheers:

The company needs to invest roughly R18,000 crore over the next four years to build its full capacity. “We need to spend roughly R5 crore to produce a megawatt of power with imported coal,” the same person said

Happy to see two major power projects is taking off at Cuddalore/Nagapattinam belt. One is IL&FS and another one is Chettinad power.

IL&FS - 18000 crores - 3800 MW
Chettinad - 8000 crores - 1300 MW
NLC TPS - 1 replacement - 6000 crores - 1000 MW
PEL power - 6000 crores - 1000 MW

Total - 38000 crores - 7100MW

2500MW existing Neyveli capacity.. so this region alone will produce around 9000MW of power by 2016. I guess power grid is also investing huge amount in power transmission from this coast to hinter-lands.

NOCL - 5000 crores is another major investment in this coast.

Glad to see Thatha's paper projects are not really what they were thought to be.
Arul,
As mentioned by Tshyam, can you kindly update your spreadsheet and post the latest status.
BTW, curious to know what happened to Coastal energen. The last I heard was it hit some roadblock. Has it been resolved as that was the only private project, out of Thatha's list that was very close to completion!

And Arul, after updating can you please cross post your excel sheets in the first page of this thread? You can cross reference and say: status as on Dec 2011, status as on April 2012 and so on and list the pictures. It will make a good read for someone new to SSC.

One more update - the PPN Nagapattinam (1080 MW) is not thermal but natural gas + naphtha plant. Also L&T and Mitsubishi have won the EPC contract last year. So I guess you can move it to progress section.

http://netindian.in/news/2011/05/16/00013241/lt-bags-rs-3500-crore-order-ppn-gas-based-power-plant-tamil-nadu
http://moefnews.com/thermal/installation-of-3x360-mw-ccpp-at-pillaiperumalnalur-by-ppn-power-generation-co-p-limited/
http://www.tnpcb.gov.in/pdf/ppn_Exe_sum_eng.pdf
deadline for completion: 2013 - source: http://www.powergridindia.com/pgcil_new/Files/12th_SR_Connectivity-LTA_Addl_Agenda.pdf

COIMBATORE: In an attempt to ensure that frequent power outages do not affect drinking water supply from pumping stations, direct feeder stations are have been proposed from the nearest power sub stations at the Kurichi- Kuniamuthur- Kinnathukkadavu combined water scheme.

Presently, six diesel generators have been installed at these stations to ensure that atleast one of the electric motor functions during power cut and water can be drawn at least to 50% of the capacity and supplied to the nearby areas that are facing acute water shortage in the summer months.

The proposals are being studied and cleared after detailed consultation between the Tamil Nadu Water Supply and Drainage Board, Tamil Nadu Electricity Board and Coimbatore corporation.

As per the draft proposals, TNEB is expected to opt for both overhead and underground cables to supply power to these pumping stations. At a joint meeting of the top officials of these bodies held at the city corporation headquarters, Mayor SM Velusamy had instructed the TWAD and TNEB officials to speed up the proposals and submit it for clearance from the government.

Direct feeder stations were initially proposed at Athupollachi, Atchipatti, Kurichi, Kuniamuthur, Kinnathukkadavu andThirunagar colony pumping stations.

The direct feeder station is to ensure that supply of water from Aliyar river through the scheme does not get disrupted during the power cut in the area. However, direct feeder station will not be installed at Atchipatti as it has been deemed non feasible due to technical reasons.

"As of now direct power feeder stations for Kurichi and Kuniamuthur pumping stations have been submitted and is expected to be finalised later this week," said a senior official involved in the process.

According to sources, Kurichi will be connected to the power grid at SIDCO sub station at an estimated cost of Rs 28 lakh and the cables will be laid fully overhead. Kinnathukkadavu pumping station will be drawing direct power from Kinnathukkadavu sub station but the feasibility of the project is being scrutinised as the cables will have to be drawn with requisite clearance from National Highway Authority of India.

"The direct feeder station to Thirunagar colony was rejected by the corporation claiming that it will not be viable to install it. The initial plan was to link it with the power substation at Madhukkarai," said another official.

The officials also added that the direct feeder station at Athupollachi will be jointly setup along with that two other schemes, the Suleeswaranpatti water scheme and the North Pollachi, South Pollachi, Kudimangalam combined water scheme.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/coimbatore/Direct-feeder-stations-proposed-from-power-sub-stations/articleshow/12590360.cms

Direct Feeder station for public utility - another Modi idea. Good.

In Gujarat, Even the subsidised power for farmers is only by separate grid and not the regular grid to prevent misuse. Hope JJ does that too.

Tamil Nadu to set up 2 LNG power plants




http://business-standard.com/india/news/tamil-nadu-to-set2-lng-power-plants/470602/

Arul, I think you can add this to the "planned" section.

Glad to see Thatha's paper projects are not really what they were thought to be.
Arul,
As mentioned by Tshyam, can you kindly update your spreadsheet and post the latest status.
BTW, curious to know what happened to Coastal energen. The last I heard was it hit some roadblock. Has it been resolved as that was the only private project, out of Thatha's list that was very close to completion!

And Arul, after updating can you please cross post your excel sheets in the first page of this thread? You can cross reference and say: status as on Dec 2011, status as on April 2012 and so on and list the pictures. It will make a good read for someone new to SSC.

One more update - the PPN Nagapattinam (1080 MW) is not thermal but natural gas + naphtha plant. Also L&T and Mitsubishi have won the EPC contract last year. So I guess you can move it to progress section.

http://netindian.in/news/2011/05/16/00013241/lt-bags-rs-3500-crore-order-ppn-gas-based-power-plant-tamil-nadu
http://moefnews.com/thermal/installation-of-3x360-mw-ccpp-at-pillaiperumalnalur-by-ppn-power-generation-co-p-limited/
http://www.tnpcb.gov.in/pdf/ppn_Exe_sum_eng.pdf
deadline for completion: 2013 - source: http://www.powergridindia.com/pgcil_new/Files/12th_SR_Connectivity-LTA_Addl_Agenda.pdf

will surely update and post it shortly.:)

To give full fledged developments to this Cuddalore and Tuticorin belt, Pondycherry and Tirunelveli should become as hub for service/health care industry, medical and educational institution in next 10 yrs.

With the country seeing an end to the ugly Kudankulam nuclear plant stir, there seem to be difference of opinion now stemming from across the border, Sri Lanka. Sri Lanka has raised reservations over the presence of nuclear plants in South India.

The issue was raised by Sri Lanka’s power and energy minister Champika Ranawaka. According to the minister the matter will be raised in the next meeting of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) in September.

Lanka has raised concerns in the event of a nuclear catastrophe in one of these plants and the impact this might have on Lanka. A narrow strip of sea is what divides both countries.

According to a report on Xinhua, Ranawaka has been quoted as saying to reporters that Sri Lanka is seeking an agreement with India on nuclear disaster management. It has also been reported that New Delhi has responded positively on this matter.

As per the Sri Lankan side, they feel the town of Mannar in the northern part of the country will be impacted severely in case of a nuclear disaster. The Minister added that his ministry is conducting a survey of the coast to identify the areas to carry out radiation tests.

Sri Lanka seem to be wary after the nuclear leak report that emerged from tsunami-stricken Japan last year. The nuclear plant in Fukushima suffered damages as a result of the earthquake and subsequent tsunami.

http://news.oneindia.in/2012/04/09/sri-lanka-raising-eyebrows-over-indian-nuclear-plants.html

http://i39.tinypic.com/v2wj0x.jpg

Anniyan,

you need to watermark your pic.

See below

http://www.moneycontrol.com/smementor/mentorade/starting-up/natural-gas-plant-nearing-completion-689893.html

They have atleast mentioned skyscrapercity.com as their source..

OT, why have they put this IL&FS pic for that Uthiragosha Mangai plant??

Anniyan,

you need to watermark your pic.

See below

http://www.moneycontrol.com/smementor/mentorade/starting-up/natural-gas-plant-nearing-completion-689893.html

Like in tea shops, I am going to watermark "Indha padam skyscrapercity forum'il thirudapatathu" lol

Its nice to see them giving credits to skyscrapercity.com.

:lol::lol:

TN Govt planning 1000 Mws(2*500) Powerplants based on LNG....NEWS -2012

2011 - news report..

New spot LNG prices too high for power firms ....

Kalpana Pathak & Katya B Naidu / Mumbai Jun 11, 2011, 00:13 IST

Companies say impact on cost of production makes for unviable economics

A nearly 50 per cent increase over the past seven months in the prices of spot or regasified liquefied natural gas (R-LNG) has turned power generation companies away from the spot LNG market.


GAIL, Petronet LNG and Royal Dutch Shell say the companies have stopped buying gas from them. Gas is instead being sold to refiners, gas retailers, petrochemical producers and steel producers.

Spot LNG prices have gone up from $10 per million British thermal unit (mBtu) at the beginning of this year to $15 mBtu. GAIL, which markets gas for Petronet LNG, has raised spot LNG prices twice since March this year.

Buying LNG at an increased cost would push up the cost of production for power companies. With every dollar of price rise in LNG, the cost of power produced will go up by 35 paise. Thus, at $15 per mBtu cost of LNG, the fuel cost of producing power will work out to around Rs 5 per unit. Adding fixed costs, the total cost will be more than Rs 6 per unit, which, industry players say, is exorbitantly higher.

"If the price of LNG is above $10-12 per mBtu, it becomes unviable to the power sector," said Debashish Mishra, senior director, Deloitte Touche Tomatsu.

“After Japan increased using LNG as a fuel source as they closed down nuclear power plants after the tsunami, spot R-LNG prices have gone up drastically.

A few months before, power producers like NTPC and Torrent Power were buying gas at $10 mBtu but an increase in prices is keeping them away from the market," said an industry player on condition of anonymity.

Torrent has stopped spot LNG purchases for its 1,150 Mw combined cycle Sugen power plant at Surat. The project has a fixed source from Gujarat State Petronet, the Krishna Godavari basin fields of Reliance and the PMT gas fields. However, it also draws LNG on spot from Petronet LNG’s plant at Dahej in Gujarat.

Three power plants of NTPC which are affected are the 645 Mw Kawas unit at Bharuch (the main gas source is the Hazira-Bijaipur-Jagdishpur (HBJ) pipeline), the nearby 648 Mw Jhanor Gandhar unit and the 652 Mw unit at Auraiya in Uttar Pradesh. In an e-mailed response, NTPC said, "Less buying of LNG is due to lack of demand for gas-based power. We are facing a similar situation with coal projects, as availability of power is there but there are no takers in certain areas."

But since these projects have long-term fuel supply arrangements, and only drawing spot LNG to increase their capacity utilisation, they will not be completely affected

http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/new-spot-lng-prices-too-high-for-power-firms/438695/

Like in tea shops, I am going to watermark "Indha padam skyscrapercity forum'il thirudapatathu" lol

Its nice to see them giving credits to skyscrapercity.com.

Nice to see data going from SSC...

Instead of thirudapatathu.. we can have Ubayam: Anniyan, SSC ;)

Crossposting..

Hanakon plant shifted to Tuticorin :banana:

It is a victory for people of Uttara Kannada district

The proposed 450-MW coal-based Hanakon thermal power project in Karwar has been shifted to Tuticorin in Tamil Nadu by the Hyderabad-based Ind Bharat Power (Karwar) Ltd.

The project, had become a rallying point for a people’s movement comprising villagers, fisherfolk and environmentalists, all of whom had strongly objected to the setting up of a power plant in an ecologically sensitive zone. The Hanakon Ushna Sthavara Virodhi Horata Samiti protested tooth and nail against it being established in Hanakon.

Speaking at a press meet here on Saturday company’s Executive Director A N Vasu Rao said, “The thermal power plant at Hanakon has been shifted due to strong public protest and considering the delicate environment issues. Now, the project it be established to Tuticorin in Tamil Nadu.”

Instead of the project medical college, hi-tech hospitals and resorts which are environment friendly ventures will be taken up in the region. There is also an ample opportunity to establish a software park here,” he said.

No false reports submitted

Clarifying certain allegations against the company he said, “We had not submitted any false records to obtain permission for the setting up of the thermal plant. We had requested relevant departments for permission and they in turn had sent the reports to the government. The company has not submitted any report to the government on its own accord. Moreover, no civil works have been taken up in Hanakon,” he added.

Hanakon Ushna Sthavara Virodhi Horata Samiti legal advisor K R Desai said, “It is a historic day to the people of Uttara Kannada district. We are not against development but are opposed to any project that is harmful to the environment in the district. Let IBPL establish environment-friendly ventures here.” All cases except those of atrocities in Hanakon will be withdrawn, he added.

http://www.deccanherald.com/content/44592/banner-300x250.swf

China power giant inks $2.4b India project


Power Construction Corporation of China said on Friday it had signed a USD 2.4 billion contract to build the second phase of a massive coal-fired power complex in southern India that will help meet soaring local demand for electricity.

The second phase of the project for India's Infrastructure Leasing & Financial Services Limited (IL&FS) will include the addition of four generators each with a capacity of 660 megawatts (MW), the Chinese group said on its website.

The deal is an EPC contract, meaning Power Construction Corp will be responsible for engineering, procurement and construction. It said the project will create more than 10,000 jobs in India and use power equipment made in China.

China has been playing an active role in power project construction overseas, particularly in developing countries, taking advantage of state financing as well as experience and technology acquired through three decades of economic boom.

Power Construction Corp, a sprawling enterprise under the direct supervision of China's central government, was created through a state-dictated merger of dozens of domestic survey and design institutions, power construction companies and equipment manufacturers.

The group, with total assets of 196 billion yuan and 200,000 employees at the end of 2010, said it generated total profits of 6.47 billion yuan on revenue of 160 billion in 2010.

It says its strategy is to "become a world famous corporation with strong international competitiveness... capable of providing full-round and one-stop service in clean energy sector and water resources development and construction."

INDIA COAL SHORTAGE

IL&FS said it would import coal from Indonesia, Australia and South Africa to fuel the plant, the first phase of which included two generators each with capacity of 600 MW. It has acquired a mine in Indonesia to supply the generators.

IL&FS plans to sell the power from the project to state-run distribution companies on a long-term basis as well as in the open market.

Coal fuels more than half of India's power capacity of 191,000 MW and will be required for 85% of the 76,000 MW additional capacity targeted to be added in the next five years.

About 9,000 megawatts, nearly 10% of India's total coal-fired generating capacity, became unviable last year after Indonesia changed rules on coal prices. These plants have long-term agreements to sell power to states and no flexibility to pass on increased costs.

Slow environmental clearances and land acquisition have led to stagnating coal output in the country and have increased dependence on imports. Coal India , which accounts for 80% of India's coal output, produced about 436 million tonnes in 2011-12, missing a scaled-down target.

http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/business/china-power-giant-inks-3624-bn-india-project_692242.html#toptag

Great! So it means IL&FS phase 2 is on. Total 1200 (P1)+ 2620 (P2) = 3820 MW.

Great! So it means IL&FS phase 2 is on. Total 1200 (P1)+ 2620 (P2) = 3820 MW.

As expected it is EPC contract...:cheers:

Oops sorry, its 3840 MW.

Originally it was reported as 3600. Hope the Chinese steamroll the construction and show the Indians how it is done.

Is it Phase-2 of Paranjipettai plant?

Will they bring chinese to India for work??

With most parts of India reeling under a power crisis, the situation is all set to worsen after reports have emerged that 30 out of India's 95 thermal power plants have registered alarmingly low levels of coal.

As per the data available with the power ministry's advisory wing, Central Electricity Authority (CEA), of the 30 power stations that produce 26,320 mega-watt (mw) of power, 25 of them have coal stocks that can potentially last for only 4 days. Of the 25 power stations, five are from National Thermal Power Corp (NTPC) - in Delhi (Badarpur), Uttar Pradesh (Dadri and Unchahar), Andhra Pradesh (Simadhari), Bihar (Kahalgaon).

A senior power ministry official has been quoted as saying, “Any sudden disruption in coal supplies can affect power availability in a big way.” Against the typical requirement of 15-20 days of coal stocks, 30 power plants with a total capacity of 26,320 mw are at critical level with less than 7 days of coal and out of these 25 plants with a capacity of over 21,000 mw have less than 4 days of stocks.

Data from the CEA has revealed that four plants especially have no coal stocks left and are relying on day-to-day supplies of coal. The Power Ministry and NTPC officials however taking matters into perspective said that "this is not anything unusual and there is no need to panic."

A senior power ministry official has been quoted as saying, “The situation is certainly alarming as any disruption in the movement of coal - either due to rain or for instance the tsunami alert which was announced on Wednesday - could make power plants run dry, thereby affecting power production."

An NTPC official added, "What if there is a repeat of last year-like situation when floods as well as labour unrest affected movement of coal and choked supplies at most power stations. We are certainly in for a trouble."

2011 saw more than 50% of India's thermal power plants struggling to get adequate coal supplies. The NTPC official further said, “The thermal plants had to suffer for adequate fuel supply for more than a month due to heavy rainfall, Telangana agitation and labour unrest."

http://news.oneindia.in/2012/04/13/ind-to-see-massive-coal-shortage-affecting-power-plants.html

Is it Phase-2 of Paranjipettai plant?

Yes. I dont think they are building any other 1200 MW phase 1 + 2640 MW phase 2 plants anywhere in South India.

Murlee: There are some visa rules which prevents mass imports of Chinese labour but I think the top level employees will be Chinese.

With most parts of India reeling under a power crisis, the situation is all set to worsen after reports have emerged that 30 out of India's 95 thermal power plants have registered alarmingly low levels of coal.
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As I have always said, India is overestimating its coal reserves. We are in for some serious trouble in the future if we are not diversifying well into renewables.

With most parts of India reeling under a power crisis, the situation is all set to worsen after reports have emerged that 30 out of India's 95 thermal power plants have registered alarmingly low levels of coal.

As per the data available with the power ministry's advisory wing, Central Electricity Authority (CEA), of the 30 power stations that produce 26,320 mega-watt (mw) of power, 25 of them have coal stocks that can potentially last for only 4 days. Of the 25 power stations, five are from National Thermal Power Corp (NTPC) - in Delhi (Badarpur), Uttar Pradesh (Dadri and Unchahar), Andhra Pradesh (Simadhari), Bihar (Kahalgaon).

A senior power ministry official has been quoted as saying, “Any sudden disruption in coal supplies can affect power availability in a big way.” Against the typical requirement of 15-20 days of coal stocks, 30 power plants with a total capacity of 26,320 mw are at critical level with less than 7 days of coal and out of these 25 plants with a capacity of over 21,000 mw have less than 4 days of stocks.

Data from the CEA has revealed that four plants especially have no coal stocks left and are relying on day-to-day supplies of coal. The Power Ministry and NTPC officials however taking matters into perspective said that "this is not anything unusual and there is no need to panic."

A senior power ministry official has been quoted as saying, “The situation is certainly alarming as any disruption in the movement of coal - either due to rain or for instance the tsunami alert which was announced on Wednesday - could make power plants run dry, thereby affecting power production."

An NTPC official added, "What if there is a repeat of last year-like situation when floods as well as labour unrest affected movement of coal and choked supplies at most power stations. We are certainly in for a trouble."

2011 saw more than 50% of India's thermal power plants struggling to get adequate coal supplies. The NTPC official further said, “The thermal plants had to suffer for adequate fuel supply for more than a month due to heavy rainfall, Telangana agitation and labour unrest."

http://news.oneindia.in/2012/04/13/ind-to-see-massive-coal-shortage-affecting-power-plants.html

this is again stupid reporting by the reporter, coal at India's power stations have DOUBLED from lows in october. Out of 25 supercritical(as on 29 march) 5 were in UP with just 90 MW each,one plant was yet to start, 3 were due to less/ no imports. So the remaining were 16 there has been consistent problem with West Bengal power plants. Here is the source (http://cea.nic.in/reports/daily/coal_stock/coal_12_03_29.pdf)

i have been watching this since october, then the total coal at stations were just 700,000 tonnes and now it is 13,866,000 tonnes, which is just double. So the electricty generation growth of 6-8% YOY shows that the coal is adequately supplied, when the conditions became worse in october the no. of supercritical plants reached 35-40. IMO it has been good recovery since then.At the best of times there were 10-12 supercritcial plants always(due to loading constraints). even the rake availability has increase from 145-150 from year earlier to 185-190 and it even reached 200.So things are improving. CIL's growth in Feb was 17% YOY.

this is again stupid reporting by the reporter, coal at India's power stations have DOUBLED from lows in october.

I follow the news only on press. OneIndia reporter is not the odd man out. Reuters reports shortage too
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/13/china-power-india-idUSL3E8FD4JJ20120413

INDIA COAL SHORTAGE

IL&FS said it would import coal from Indonesia, Australia and South Africa to fuel the plant, the first phase of which included two generators each with capacity of 600 MW. It has acquired a mine in Indonesia to supply the generators.

IL&FS plans to sell the power from the project to state-run distribution companies on a long-term basis as well as in the open market.

Coal fuels more than half of India's power capacity of 191,000 MW and will be required for 85 percent of the 76,000 MW additional capacity targeted to be added in the next five years.

About 9,000 megawatts, nearly 10 percent of India's total coal-fired generating capacity, became unviable last year after Indonesia changed rules on coal prices. These plants have long-term agreements to sell power to states and no flexibility to pass on increased costs.

Slow environmental clearances and land acquisition have led to stagnating coal output in the country and have increased dependence on imports. Coal India, which accounts for 80 percent of India's coal output, produced about 436 million tonnes in 2011/12, missing a scaled-down target. ($1 = 6.3073 Chinese yuan) (Reporting by Charlie Zhu and Sanjeev Choudhary; Editing by Eric Meijer.)

Jayalalitha urges Centre to postpone CERC proposal (http://newsonair.nic.in/news.asp?cat=National&id=NN4024)

Tamil Nadu Chief Minister Jayalalitha has urged the Centre to postpone the Central Electricity Regulatory Commission’s (CERC) proposal to tighten the Grid frequency, on the plea that it will affect the state, already facing severe transmission congestion problems.

In a letter to the Prime Minister Dr Manmohan Singh, the Chief Minister said, changes in the operating grid frequency bandwidth at a time when the state is facing a huge power shortage situation, is totally unwarranted. She said, the proposal of the Electricity Regulatory Commission may result in increasing the duration of the enforced load shedding in the state which would affect agricultural and economic growth in the state.

Ms. Jayalalitha sought the Prime Minister’s intervention to postpone the proposal for further tightening the frequency bandwidth to a future period and said, this could be taken up when the demand-supply situation and inter-state connectivity improves.

Also read : http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/industry-and-economy/government-and-policy/article3317766.ece?ref=wl_industry-and-economy

`99% work in first unit of Kudankulam over’ (http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/industry-and-economy/government-and-policy/article3318056.ece?ref=wl_industry-and-economy)

The Centre today said power production from the first unit of the Kudankulam Nuclear Power Project would commence in two months as 99 per cent of its works are over.

Talking to reporters here, the Minister of State in the PMO Mr V Narayanasamy said, “1000 MW of power could be produced from the first unit, which will be ready for commissioning in two months“.

“95 per cent of the works on the second unit are also over,” he added.

On Tamil Nadu Chief Minister Ms Jayalalithaa’s demand to allocate the entire power generated from the KNPP to the state, Mr Narayanasamy said, “The Chief Minister’s demand is under the consideration of the Prime Minister Dr Manmohan Singh“.

To a question on the issue of Tamils in Sri Lanka, he said the Centre was “committed” to the rehabilitation of internally displaced Tamils in that country and had announced Rs 2,500 crore package for various projects, including construction of houses for them.

“The Prime Minister is closely monitoring the rehabilitation programmes,” he said.

Centre may allocate 300 MW more power to Tamil Nadu (http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/tamil-nadu/article3318117.ece)

“ Kudankulam atomic reactor's first unit will be commissioned in 45 days''

The Central government is considering allocating 300 MW of additional power to Tamil Nadu from the Central Grid and a proposal to this effect has been placed with the Ministry of Power. This is to help out the State steeped in power crisis, said the Union Minister of State in the Prime Minister's Office, V. Narayanasamy, here on Sunday.

Speaking to reporters on the sidelines of his visit to the district here, Mr. Narayanasamy also sought an enhanced allocation of 100 MW for Puducherry on commissioning of the Kudankulam atomic power plant. The initial agreement envisaged a 67-MW power allocation for Puducherry. However, as an MP representing the Union Territory, he was bound to seek an enhanced allocation for Puducherry.

Expressing hopes of early commissioning of the plant, the Minister said the first unit of atomic reactor would be commissioned in 45 days and the second unit in two months from now.

On Tamil Nadu Chief Minister Jayalalitha's criticism of the visit of the MPs' delegation to Sri Lanka as an eyewash, Mr. Narayanasamy said the AIADMK leader was entitled to airing her opinion and that the delegation led by Leader of Opposition Sushma Swaraj would accomplish its purported mandate.

New Delhi: This summer, get ready to face the heat. India is 21,000 MW short of electricity, which means long nights without power. The reason is that 25 power stations have just about four days of coal left to fuel the power plants and a little more than 30 stations have just 7 days of stock left.

The Central Electricity Authority has warned that Delhi's Rajghat plant, Haryana's Mahatma Gandhi plant, Uttar Pradesh's Dadri plant and Maharashtra's Parli plant have coal for just two or three days. In Karnataka, the two functional thermal plants at Raichur and Bellary have coal for just three days.

Former Power Secretary Anil Razdan said, "Two days of coal stock is a very critical situation, ideally a plant should have at least 10 days of stock."

The reason for the crippling coal shortage is that Coal India, which supplies coal to 80 per cent of India's power plants itself has a shortage of 142 million tonnes and the reason for this shortage is partly a lack of transport for coal. In fact, Coal India this week is expected to sign Fuel Supply Agreements assuring at least 80 per cent coal supply to producers. But power companies warn that even this is not enough. End consumers have no option but to bear the heat.

Director General of Association of Power Producers Ashok Khurana said, "Today, approximately 28,000 Megawatt of power plant is working at below 50 per cent. And the balance between the production, dispatch and the coal available at the power stations is very delicate. So slight disruptions which take place during rains and all that disrupts the entire power schedule over there."

Even importing coal to meet the immediate shortfall is not an option since it is prohibitively expensive. Imported coal is four times costlier than domestic coal, which is Rs 1,000 per tonne.

BSES Yamuna Power CEO Ramesh Narayanan said, "In the distribution side, the entire funding by the financial institutions are done on the strength of the balance sheet. And unfortunately, all the 'Discoms' in the country are in deep trouble. They don't have a strong balance sheet."

The looming power crisis has even put the Prime Minister's Office on high alert. The PMO recently convened a hurried meeting to expedite the process of high import costs for coal, smoothen environment clearances for coal projects, and nurse the worsening financial health of power distribution companies. But all these might be too small and too late to save the nation from a complete blackout.

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/india-short-of-electricity-crisis-looms-large/248988-3.html

Power generation in our country has challenges that never seem to end!

1. Coal in India heavily subsidised
2. So it makes imported coal so expensive and unaffordable
3. MoEF's unnecessary aggression wrt Go - no GO areas
4. Strikes
5. Free power by SG's and subsidised for other public
6. LA problems for Power companies
7. Protests like KKNP and other similar sites for nuclear plants
8. Port infrastructure
9. Our great Railways which is in sorry state to transport coal (according to reports)
10. Non payment or settlement of dues by SEB's to companies like PTC, receivable days shooting off
11. Distribution infrastructure crumbling
12. Grid connectivity lacking or need to imporve
13. Slower progress on renewables like solar

and on and on and on.....

Not sure how China managed to overcome all this with a similar population and demography. Offcourse there cannot be protests and Govt. is efficient but still someone can throw some light!

நிலக்கரி பற்றாக்குறையால் குறைகிறது மின் உற்பத்தி (http://www.dinamalar.com/News_Detail.asp?Id=449180)
புதுடில்லி: மின் வெட்டால் ஏற்கனவே நிறைய அவதிகளைச் சந்தித்துக் கொண்டிருக்கும் மக்கள், இந்த கோடை காலத்தில் மேலும் துயரத்தை சந்திக்க நேரிடும் என எதிர்பார்க்கப்படுகிறது. நாடு முழுவதும், 21 ஆயிரம் மெகாவாட் மின்சாரம் பற்றாக்குறை ஏற்படும் என்பதால், பல இரவுகளை மின்சாரம் இல்லாமல் கழிக்க வேண்டியது ஏற்பட்டாலும் ஆச்சர்யப்படுவதற்கு இல்லை.

அதற்கு காரணம் நாட்டில் உள்ள அனல் மின் நிலையங்களில், 25 மின் நிலையங்களில் இன்னும் நான்கு நாட்களுக்கு தேவையான நிலக்கரி மட்டுமே கையிருப்பு உள்ளது. அதேபோல், மற்ற 30 மின் நிலையங்களில் ஏழு நாட்களுக்கு தேவையான நிலக்கரி மட்டுமே உள்ளது. டில்லி ராஜ்காட் மின் நிலையம், அரியானா மகாத்மா காந்தி மின் நிலையம், உத்திர பிரதேசம் தாத்ரி மின் நிலையம், மகாராஷ்டிராவின் பார்லி மின்நிலையம் போன்றவற்றில், இன்னும் இரண்டு முதல் மூன்று நாட்களுக்கு மட்டுமே நிலக்கரி உள்ளதாக, மத்திய மின் ஆணையம் எச்சரித்துள்ளது.

மோசமான நிலை: இதுதொடர்பாக மின்துறையின் முன்னாள் செயலர் அனில் ரஸ்தான் கூறுகையில், ""இரண்டு நாட்களுக்கு மட்டுமே, நிலக்கரி கையிருப்பு என்பது, மோசமான ஒன்று. குறைந்தபட்சம் 10 நாட்களுக்கு தேவையான நிலக்கரியை மின் நிலையங்கள் கொண்டிருக்க வேண்டும். நாட்டில் உள்ள, 80 சதவீத அனல் மின் நிலையங்களுக்கு நிலக்கரி சப்ளை செய்யும் கோல் இந்தியா நிறுவனத்திடமே, 142 மில்லியன் டன் நிலக்கரி பற்றாக்குறை உள்ளது. நிலக்கரியை ஒரு இடத்திலிருந்து மற்றொரு இடத்திற்கு கொண்டு செல்வதற்கு தேவையான போக்குவரத்து வசதி இல்லாததே அதற்கு காரணம். இருந்தாலும், நிலைமையை சீர் செய்ய இந்த வாரத்தில், எரிபொருள் சப்ளை ஒப்பந்தங்களை, கோல் இந்தியா நிறுவனம் மேற்கொள்ளலாம் என, எதிர்பார்க்கப்படுகிறது,'' என்றார்.

பலன் தருமா? ஆனாலும், இந்த முயற்சி எந்த அளவுக்கு பலன் தரும் என, தெரியவில்லை. மின் நிலையங்களுக்கு நிலக்கரி சப்ளை இல்லையெனில், மின்சார உற்பத்தி குறைந்து, மக்கள் அதிக மின்வெட்டால் அவதிப்பட நேரிடும் என்பதில், எந்த விதமான சந்தேகமும் இல்லை. மின் உற்பத்தியாளர்கள் சங்கத்தின் இயக்குனர் அசோக் குரானா இதுதொடர்பாக கூறுகையில், ""28 ஆயிரம் மெகாவாட் அளவுக்கு மின்சாரத்தை உற்பத்தி செய்யக்கூடிய மின் நிறுவனங்கள் எல்லாம் தற்போது பதிய அளவு மட்டுமே உற்பத்தி செய்கின்றன. மின் உற்பத்தி நிலையங்களில், மின்சார உற்பத்தி, நிலக்கரி சப்ளை மற்றும் மின்சார வினியோகம் போன்றவற்றில் சமச்சீரற்ற நிலைமை காணப்படுகிறது. பற்றாக்குறையை சரிக்கட்ட நிலக்கரியை உடனடியாக இறக்குமதி செய்வது என்பதும், நடக்கிற காரியம் அல்லது அதற்கு மிக அதிகமாக செலவாகும். உள்நாட்டில் வாங்கப்படும் நிலக்கரியை விட, நான்கு மடங்கு விலை அதிகமாக வெளிநாட்டிலிருந்து நிலக்கரியை இறக்குமதி செய்ய வேண்டும்,'' என்றார்.

No power for Neyveli Lignite Corporation to apportion additional power to Tamil Nadu (http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/news-by-industry/energy/power/no-power-for-neyveli-lignite-corporation-to-apportion-additional-power-to-tamil-nadu/articleshow/12689129.cms)

CUDDALORE (TN): Neyveli Lignite Corporation has no power to apportion additional power to Tamil Nadu from its units as originally agreed to as power sharing is governed by the 'Gadgil formula', a top NLC official said here today

"NLC has no power to apportion additional power to Tamil Nadu from its units, as power sharing is governed by the Gadgil formula. It is upto the power ministry to decide on this factor,"NLC chairman A R Ansari said in a statement here.

Under the Gadgil formula, the state is entitled to 220 MW from 500 MW produced by NLC. This quantity cannot be given now, he said.

Ansari said current delays in execution of power projects is due to failure of equipment suppliers. To quicken the process, NLC proposed to procure equipment from foregn suppliers and indigenous firms, he said.

He said commercial generation of power from the second thermal unit would begin by June 2012.

The Rs 4,910 crore 1000 MW Tuticorn Power Project, a Joint Venture of NLC and Tamil Nadu Generation And Production Corporation is expected to be commissioned in 2013. The project is behind schedule by six months.

He said the Jayamkondam Project had been dropped as land acquisition was posing a problem, though the area had rich Lignite reserves.

The Centre had also sanctioned 1000 MW new thermal power project to replace the existing first thermal unit (TPS-1) 600 MW at an estimated cost Rs 5,907.11 crore. This is scheduled to be commissioned in 54 months, he said.

Ansari said NLC has decided to acquire functional coalfields in countries like Australia and South Africa and added that an official team would soon leave for these countries to inspect them.

Japanese team to help ramp up power supply network in T.N. (http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/chennai/article3321576.ece)

Experts to offer technical guidance to TANTRANSCO

Tamil Nadu has more hope for an improved power supply network, with a technical team from Japan International Cooperation Agency (JICA) visiting Chennai soon to help the Tamil Nadu Transmission Corporation (TANTRANSCO) enhance its operations.

Besides offering financial support to set up power transmission lines, the team of experts will offer technical guidance to the Corporation.

Finance Minister O. Panneerselvam, while presenting the budget last month, stated that it was programmed to strengthen the transmission network at a cost of about Rs. 3,573 crore to be funded by the JICA.

Early this year, the Agency showed willingness to support the TANTRANSCO. The proposed visit by technical experts is to help finalise the agreement, which is likely to be signed later this month in New Delhi, said a senior official.

The State government and the Corporation, which have agreed to accept the funding, are waiting for an approval from the Department of Economic Affairs in the Union Finance Ministry. “We are planning to erect 400 Kilovolt (KV) lines. Now, the team will come and tell us how to improve the quality of the sub-stations and transmission network. They are providing the expertise free of cost and we have to make best use of this training as they are decades ahead of us when it comes to quality of power transmission lines,” said the official.

The TANTRANSCO is also planning to outsource the erection work to an external agency. “We have not decided on the agency as yet. But we thought it would be better to outsource this work. The JICA officials are particular about the quality of the network as they are investing a large amount of money,” said the official.

The main aim of this initiative is to improve the transmission network, putting it on a par with the power generation projects that are expected to be commissioned from this year. The improved network will help reduce the load on the transmission system. “We can cut down on line losses and improve the quality of power supply,” said the official.

Tamil Nadu currently has over 1,350 sub-stations. “In five years, we will need nearly 3,000 sub-stations in view of the implementation of numerous generation projects,” added the official.

^^ good one...lets hope it is done to best..

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:cheers:

Yes really good.... Thats what Kannan Sir has said even before... our transmission network is so bad. We need great improvement in that area.....

புதிய அனல் மின் நிலைய உற்பத்தி : ஆயத்தப்பணி மும்முரம்

மேட்டூர்: மேட்டூர் புதிய அனல்மின் நிலையத்தில், சோதனை அடிப்படையிலான மின் தயாரிப்பு, இன்னும் மூன்று நாட்களில் துவங்க உள்ளது. அதற்கான பணிகள் மும்முரமாக நடந்து வருகின்றன.

பணிகள் தாமதம் : மேட்டூரில், 840 மெகாவாட் மின் உற்பத்தி திறன் கொண்ட அனல் மின் நிலையம் அருகே, 3,550 கோடி ரூபாய் செலவில் புதிதாக, 600 மெகாவாட் திறன் கொண்ட மின் உற்பத்தி நிலையம் அமைக்கும் பணி, கடந்த, 2008, ஜூன், 25ம் தேதி துவங்கியது. இங்கு, கடந்த செப்டம்பரிலேயே கட்டுமான பணி முடிந்து, மின் உற்பத்தி துவங்கி இருக்க வேண்டும். பணிகள் தாமதம் ஆனதால், திட்டமிட்டபடி உற்பத்தி துவங்கப்படவில்லை. கடந்த 25ம் தேதி, புதிய அனல்மின் நிலைய கட்டுமான பணிகளை ஆய்வு செய்து, மார்ச் இறுதி வாரத்தில், மின் உற்பத்திக்கான சோதனை ஓட்டம் துவங்கும் என, மின்துறை அமைச்சர் நத்தம் விஸ்வநாதன் அறிவித்தார்.

சோதனை ஓட்டம் : எனினும், தொழில்நுட்ப பிரச்னை காரணமாக பணிகள் தாமதம் ஆனது. இந்நிலையில், புதிய அனல் மின் நிலையத்தில் முதல்கட்டமாக, மசகு எண்ணெய் பயன்படுத்தியும்; அடுத்த கட்டமாக, நிலக்கரி பயன்படுத்தியும், சோதனை ஓட்ட மின் உற்பத்தி துவங்க இருக்கிறது. இதில், மசகு எண்ணெய் அதிக அழுத்ததுடன் பிரத்யோகமாக ஸ்பிரே செய்யப்படும். இவ்வாறு ஸ்பிரே செய்யப்படும் எண்ணெய் எரிந்து, பாய்லரில் உள்ள தண்ணீர் கொதித்து வெளியேறும் நீராவி மூலம், டர்பன் இயக்கப்பட்டு, மின் உற்பத்தி செய்யப்படும். நேற்று முன்தினம், மாலை 4 மணிக்கு, புதிய அனல்மின் நிலையத்தில், இதற்கான சோதனை செய்யும் பணி துவங்கியது. அடுத்த மூன்று நாட்களில், சோதனை அடிப்படையில் மின் உற்பத்தி செய்யப்படும் என, அதிகாரிகள் தெரிவித்தனர்.


http://www.dinamalar.com/News_Detail.asp?Id=451472

Mettur 600 MW power plant trial operation in 3 days

Kudankulam set for loading of enriched uranium fuel rods (http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Madurai/article3333115.ece?homepage=true)

Atomic Energy Regulatory Board's nod awaited: S.K. Jain

Expressing satisfaction over the progress in preparing the first reactor of Kudankulam Nuclear Power Project for commissioning, Nuclear Power Corporation of India Limited (NPCIL) Chairman and Managing Director S.K. Jain has said the KKNPP is awaiting the Atomic Energy Regulatory Board's clearance to open the reactor pressure vessel for inspecting the internal components' performance and subsequent loading of enriched uranium fuel rods.

Dr. Jain was here along with a team of Russian specialists headed by Valery Limarenko, president of Atomstroyexports, the Russian firm constructing the reactors at the KKNPP, to ascertain the progress of work, which resumed on March 19, for ensuring the early commissioning of the first of the 2 X 1,000-MWe reactor.

After the successful completion of the ‘hot run,' the test reports were submitted to the AERB for review by a team of experts. Once they accepted the test results, clearance would be given for opening the reactor pressure vessel, which would also be submitted to the AERB for another round of review. The specialists' group in the AERB would carry out a detailed study of these inspection reports after which clearance for fuel loading would be given by the AERB.

Following this final clearance, enriched uranium fuel loading, the first step towards criticality of the plant, would be taken up. Since the preparation for commissioning the plant was progressing as planned, it was expected that fuel loading might be taken up by mid-June and criticality attained in the next few weeks.

“Since all test results are very encouraging and inspections conducted so far have shown that every component has performed really well, we expect the clearances in time and fuel loading can be expected by mid-June. Over 35 per cent of the components have been re-checked and the remaining will be re-checked in due course. We have to wait for the clearances as there is no place for any shortcut for achieving our goals,” Dr. Jain said.

On his meeting with the heads of 29 village panchayats and three town panchayats around the KKNPP on Thursday, Dr. Jain said that he was moved by the encouraging words from the rural local body heads and had assured them that the NPCIL would be a part of development activities to be carried out in this region by the State and the Union governments.

As regards conducting a drill before the commissioning of the plant, Dr. Jain said it would be held at the appropriate time after holding talks with State government officials.

Mr. Limarenko, while categorically rejecting reports that the post-Fukushima scenario had forced several countries to keep themselves away from nuclear energy programmes, said his company, which was involved in the construction of 20 nuclear reactors in Russia and China, was holding talks with Vietnam, Turkey and Bangladesh on the construction of nuclear reactors in those countries.

He reassured that the reactors under construction, and also those to come up on the KKNPP premises, would have several layers of the most modern safety features to ensure the safety and security of the workforce and people living around the plant.

Director (Finance), NPCIL, Preman Dinaraj, station director, KKNPP (Units 1 and 2) R.S. Sundar and project director (Units 3 and 4) K. Banerjee were present.

Lets Hope for the same in TN too soon (http://ibnlive.in.com/news/guj-24hour-power-supply-in-over-18000-villages/250309-3.html)

PS: Above "Soon" is Congress men's "Soon" and not by English Dictionary.

Thermal stations perform well, yet energy deficit mounts (http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/chennai/article3336776.ece)

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Focus is on completing several power projects

Even as three major thermal power stations in Tamil Nadu continued to perform better than the national average during April 2011-March 2012, the State, as a whole, recorded the highest energy deficit of 8,980 million units (MU) in five years.

In 2006-2007, the State experienced energy deficit of 1,054 MU. In the next three years, this varied from 1,826 MU in 2007-2008 to 5,213 MU in 2010-2011, according to data on energy requirement and availability of the State in the last five years, as available on the Central Electricity Authority (CEA)'s website.

Inadequate capacity addition over the years coupled with the widening gap between demand and supply has led to the problem of power shortage. Now, greater focus is being paid to the expeditious completion of several power generation projects.

As for the power production of the Mettur, Tuticorin and North Chennai thermal power stations, the plants, once again, performed higher than the national average of plant load factor (PLF). Their PLF figures were well ahead of the national average of 73.46 per cent for coal-fired thermal power stations.

There was no element of surprise as the three stations, at least in the last three years, did better.

In 2009-2010, against the national average of 77.5 per cent, the PLF figures of North Chennai, Mettur and Tuticorin were 87.6 per cent, 86.7 per cent and 77.9 per cent. The next year, the three stations' PLF figures were 81.74 per cent, 82.4 per cent and 77.29 per cent against the national figure of 75.07 per cent.

The Ennore thermal power station was the exception to the State-wide pattern of higher PLF as it had been plagued by chronic problems. Its PLF was 22.6 per cent during 2011-2012.

The State government, a few months ago, decided to dismantle it and go in for a fresh plant.

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Anti-Kudankulam protestors to fast from May 1 onwards (http://www.indiavision.com/news/article/national/299110/antikudankulam-protestors-to-fast-from-may-1-onwards/)

Chennai - Upset with the Tamil Nadu government for going back on its assurances, the People's Movement Against Nuclear Energy (PMANE) Monday announced that it would resume an indefinite hunger strike from May 1 against the two 1,000 MW plants at Kudankulam.

"We have decided to go on hunger protest once again from May 1 onwards as the state government has gone against its assurances given to us. A large number of women will be participating in the hunger protest," PMANE leader M. Pushparayan told IANS over phone from Idinthakarai, a fishing village near the Kudankulam Nuclear Power Project (KNPP).

"When we concluded our earlier hunger strike on March 27 this year, the state government had agreed to release our comrades from prisons unconditionally and withdraw all false cases.

"It also agreed to institute an independent national committee to study the hydrology, geology and oceanography issues, conduct of disaster management and evacuation exercises to all the people in the 30 km radius from KNPP," Pushparayan, who is also convenor of the Coastal People's Federation, added.

According to PMANE, the state government had also agreed to share a copy of the inter-governmental agreement between India and Russia (the reactor supplier) signed in 2008 on nuclear liability; divulge information on the nuclear waste and its management and respect people's right to protest against the project in a democratic manner.

In a statement issued, PMANE said: "Almost a month has passed after this negotiation, but no promise has been fulfilled so far."

"More than 56,000 people have been charged with false cases until Dec 31, 2011 including some 6,000 sedition cases. If we tally the cases that have been filed in the first quarter of 2012, the number must be way too high. This only proves how big our struggle is and how undemocratic and anti-people our governments are," it stated.

Those who have been released on bail are made to sign daily at distant police stations thereby preventing them from going to work, PMANE said.

According to PMANE, the issue of seismology should also be studied in detail as the entire state of Tamil Nadu and the eastern coast of India were rocked by tremors and temblors following an earthquake in Indonesia this month.

India's nuclear power plant operator Nuclear Power Corporation of India Ltd (NPCIL) is building the KNPP at Kudankulam in Tirunelveli district in Tamil Nadu around 650 km from Chennai.

Work at the project had come to a standstill last year after villagers in the area, fearing for lives in case of nuclear accident, mounted an intensive protest.

The Tamil Nadu government had earlier passed a resolution asking the central government to halt work at the plant and to allay the fears of the locals.

To resolve the issue, the central and state governments set up two panels.

The central panel submitted its final report Jan 31. The Tamil Nadu government set up another expert committee which too favoured the project.

Last month, the state government gave its green signal to the project and also announced Rs.500 crore for local area and infrastructural development.

Following that, work at KNPP was restarted with police protection.

கூடங்குளத்தில் 40 நாட்களில் மின் உற்பத்தி: டில்லியில் நாராயணசாமி தகவல் (http://www.dinamalar.com/News_Detail.asp?Id=453572)

கூடங்குளம் அணுமின் நிலையத்தில் 40 நாட்களில் மின் உற்பத்தி தொடங்கும் என மத்திய அமைச்சர் நாராயணசாமி கூறியுள்ளார். டில்லியில் பத்திரிகையாளர்களுக்கு பேட்டியளித்த நாராயணசாமி; கூடங்குளத்தில் அணுசக்தி ஒழுங்கு முறை ஆணைய அதிகாரிகள் சோதனை செய்து வருகின்றனர். அவர்களின் அனுமதி ஒரு வாரத்தில் கிடைக்கும். அனுமதி கிடைத்த 20 நாட்கள் சோ*தனை ஓட்டம் நடைபெறும். இதன் பின்னர் முதல் அணுஉலையில் ஆயிரம் மெகாவாட் மின்சார உற்பத்தி தொடங்கும். முதல் அணுஉலையில் உற்பத்தி தொடங்கிய இரண்டு மாதத்தில் இரண்டாவது அணுஉலையில் உற்பத்தி தொடங்கும் என கூறினார்.

Found some projects while going thro' policy notes on minor ports( page 170 onwards)

http://www.tn.gov.in/policynotes/pdf/highways.pdf

Captive Ports

(VI) KAVERI

M/s. PEL Power Limited have proposed to
develop a jetty for handling coal required for 176
their 1320 MW Power Plant for which this port
has been notified. Proposal to declare this port
under Sea Customs Act is under consideration of
Government of India.

(VII) VANAGIRI

M/s. NSL Power Limited have proposed to
develop a jetty for handling coal required for
their 1500 MW Power Plant for which this port
has been notified. Proposal for Customs
Notification of this port is under consideration of
the Government of India

(VIII) THIRUKKUVALAI

The limits of Thirukkuvalai port in
Nagapattinam District have been declared for
M/s. Tridem Port and Power Company Private
Limited, to establish a port to handle coal
required for their proposed 2000 MW Merchant
Power Plant. The company is in the process of
obtaining clearance from Ministry of
Environment and Forests, New Delhi for the
port project.

(IX) UDANGUDI

This port has been notified as a minor port
for M/s. Udangudi Power Corporation Limited,
Chennai for establishing an open sea jetty to
receive coal for their 1600 MW Thermal Power
Project. The company is in the process of 177
obtaining environmental clearance from Ministry
of Environment and Forests, New Delhi.

(X) MANAPPAD

The Government have declared Manappad
in Thoothukudi District as a Minor Port for the
captive use of M/s. Indian Gas Limited, for
handling LNG required for the proposed
2000 MW Gas Turbine Power Project to be set
up by M/s. Indian Power projects Ltd. Coastal
land within the port limits of this port has been
allotted on lease basis for construction of marine
facilities.


(XI) CHETTINAD THARANGAMBADI PORT

The Government have declared Chettinad
Tharangambadi port based on the request of
M/s. Chettinad Power Corporation Limited for
handling coal required for their 1200 MW
Thermal Power Project at Tharangambadi Taluk
in Nagapattinam District. Action has been
initiated to allot coastal land to this company

16.6.3 PORTS UNDER PROCESS TO BE DECLARED

(I)PORT AT PANAIYUR, KANCHIPURAM DISTRICT

M/s. Coastal Tamil Nadu Power Limited
has been granted an in-principle approval for
developing a captive port at Panaiyur in
Kancheepuram District for handling coal required
for their proposed 4000 MW Ultra Mega Power
Project. The company has applied for the
clearance from the Ministry of Environment and
Forests, New Delhi.

(II) MARAKKANAM PORT, VILLUPURAM DISTRICT

In-principle approval has been granted to
M/s. NTPC Limited for setting up a captive port
for handling coal required for their 4000 MW
Super Thermal Power Project at Marakkanam in
Villupuram District. The company is in the
process of preparing the Technical Feasibility
Report.

(III) A COMBINED PORT FACILITY AT SIRKAZHI TALUK
IN NAGAPATTINAM DISTRICT

M/s. Empee Power and Infrastructure
Private Limited and M/s. Sindya Power
Generating Company Private Ltd have proposed
to set up separate thermal power plants in
Sirkazhi Taluk in Nagapattinam District. Since
their power plants are closely located, they were
requested to establish a combined port.
Accordingly, they have formed an SPV company
namely M/s. Sirkazhi Port Private Limited to
develop the combined captive port near Sirkazhi
Taluk in Nagapattinam District. M/s. Sindya
Power Generating Company Private Ltd has
submitted a Technical Feasibility Report and
requested for declaration of port limits, which is
under consideration of Tamil Nadu Maritime
Board.

Any idea abt these projects, anyone?

Sounds like most are paper projects..

^^
Arul,
Any comments on the question posted above?

JJ inaugurates 16 sub stations today :


Details and locations below :

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Nano tech to solve power crisis: CECRI Director (http://ibnlive.in.com/news/nano-tech-to-solve-power-crisis-cecri-director/251823-60-120.html)

CHENNAI: “Nano technology is the panacea for India’s growing power crisis,” predicted Dr Vijayamohanan Pillai, Director of Central Electro Chemical Research Institute (CECRI), Karaikudi. He was delivering the 65th Foundation Day lecture at the Central Leather Research Institute ( CLRI ) at Guindy on Wednesday. The growing energy needs of India need to be addressed in the light of the fact that it has a vast growing population. Given the acute power shortage the state is facing today, nano technology will provide economically viable solutions to the crisis, he said on an optimistic note.
Dr Pillai, who made a powerpoint presentation on ‘Advances in nanomaterials and their impact on energy technology’, stated that the solar power cells and nano cells could solve the energy crisis of the future. India is committed to generate 20 gigawatts of electricity by the year 2020, he stated emphatically. The CLRI function was chaired by all the who’s who of India’s scientific research domain.
Earlier, A B Mandal, director of CLRI, welcomed all. He stressed the need to go in for research and development in leather technology. V Bharath Kumar of Good Leather Company, Chennai and D Saalai Maraan of Council of Leather Exports,Chennai, spoke on the occasion. A book on microbial technology authored by Dr R Puvana Krishnan was released on the occasion by Vinod Arya of Jaipur Leather complex Tanners’ Association. G Thyagarajan, former director general of CSIR and D Chandra Mouli, scientist, took part in the function.

Industries can now purchase power from open market (http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/news-by-industry/energy/power/industries-can-now-purchase-power-from-open-market/articleshow/12873780.cms)

NEW DELHI: The government has invoked special powers under the Electricity Act and directed the central and state regulators to implement a long-pending reform to allow industrial consumers to buy cheaper power from the open market.

The move will help 15,000 large consumers particularly the sick textile, cement and steel industrial units in states like Punjab and Tamil Nadu by ensuring regular supply of electricity at competitive rates and boost business of power bourses and 52 power traders including NTPC, PTC India, Tata Power, Reliance Infrastructure, Jindal Steel, Essar Power, JSW Energy, GMR Energy and Indiabulls.

Power secretary P Uma Shankar said the decision was taken because similar directives in the past were taken lightly by regulators. "The ministry has issued letters to regulators to prepare regulations in line with communications sent earlier," he told ET.

"...the ministry of power, govt of India, in exercise of powers under section 107 of the Electricity Act 2003 hereby issues direction to the central commission to take all necessary steps, including framing of appropriate regulations to implement the provisions of open access...," the power ministry said in a directive issued on Monday.

Section 107 authorises the government to issue final and binding policy directives to central electricity commission in public interest. Central Electricity Regulatory Commission chairperson Pramod Deo said regulations were already there for inter-state transfer of power.

Traders and large consumers lauded the move but said issues remained with state machinery that have been impeding implementation of the 'open access' reform, introduced in Electricity Act 2003 as a powerful tool to induce competition in power sector.

Open access refers to enabling buyers an option to choose source of electricity and giving them right on transmission and distribution system for transfer of power. Distribution companies that fear losing their high paying industrial consumers are impeding implementation of the reform despite directives from power and law ministries asking regulators and distribution companies to set free large industries consuming more than a megawatt of power.

Tariffs for industrial consumers in India are among highest in the world while supply to sectors like agriculture remains highly subsidised. Many states impose huge charges like cross subsidy, transmission, transmission losses, wheeling, wheeling losses charges on open access consumers to discourage industrial consumers buy from elsewhere. An IIT-Delhi study shows distribution companies will earn 10% more revenue if they prudently exclude a portion of large consumers.

NTPC Vidyut Vyapar Nigam, power-trading arm of the company, said it was a good beginning to ensure reliable power to industries provided they have the requisite infrastructure.

Country's largest power trading platform India Energy Exchange's managing director and chief executive officer Jayant Deo said it was a welcome move. Manikaran Power Ltd executive director Amit Ailawadi said, "The opinion is a welcome step but needs to be implemented properly at the distribution companies' level which are opposing it tooth and nail."

^^Welcome move by govt.

Reactors at Kudankulam best in the world: Russia (http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics/nation/Reactors-at-Kudankulam-best-in-the-world-Russia/articleshow/12864214.cms?adcode=13)

NEW DELHI: Seeking to allay fears, Russia today said the reactors at the Kudankulam Nuclear Plant are the "best" in the world and expressed the hope that the plant would start generating power soon.

Russian Ambassador to India Alexander M Kadakin said once the Kudankulam Plant starts generating electricity, it would help reduce the energy deficit in southern parts of the country.

The first plant is expected to generate 2,000 MW of electricity out of which 1,000 MW will be given to Tamil Nadu, where the plant is located. The state is facing acute power shortage for the past one year.

"We are glad that the work has resumed and it would be ready (in sometime). We want this to function and to give much needed electricity to the South," Kadakin told PTI on the sidelines of a private function.

Kudankulam plant would reduce the energy deficit and make India realise its energy demands, he said.

The Ambassador also sought to allay fears of the protesters by stating that the technology and safety measures are updated and best in this world.

"We have shared our best technologies in these reactors and these are the safest in the world," he said.

Minister of State in the Prime Minister's Office V Narayanasamy has said that the first unit of the plant is expected to start generating electricity in the next 40 days.

On Syria, Kadakin acknowledged the tense situation there and called for a resolution which is balanced and doesn't favour any single side involved in the conflict.

"Any resolution by the UNSC shouldn't give unilateral advantages to the parties in the conflict. One should not support so called opposition," said Kadakin.

^^
Arul,
Any comments on the question posted above?

I find little time to check forum and being online. Will update this and pp u/c when I find time. :)

Tamil Nadu closes gap in energy cost and recovery

The State power utility, Tamil Nadu Generation and Distribution Corporation Ltd, will lose over Rs 4,312 crore in the current year as it buys or generates power at a higher cost and sells it at a lower price. Following the new tariff rates for power, the average cost of supply of power is Rs 5.98 a unit against the average rate of realisation of Rs 5.29. This still leaves a shortfall of Rs 0.69 a unit in the current year.

According to the policy note on energy tabled in the Assembly today, the gap has been closed from a shortfall of Rs 14,312 crore in 2011-12. The realisation then was much lower at Rs 3.74 a unit against a cost of Rs 6.15. The major factors contributing to the deficit are the need to buy power to meet the growing demand and the shortfall of Rs 2.41 on every unit of power sold to the consumer.

The installed power generation capacity in the State is 10,364 MW with the average availability at 8,500 MW whereas the demand ranges from 11,500 MW to 12,500 MW.

Since 2008 the State has seen restriction and control measures in power supply to manage the shortfall.

The situation is expected to improve with improvement in the power position.

The State Government has over 15,507 MW of power projects in the pipeline in various stages of implementation. Over 4,887 MW of power generation will be added by the end of 2013.

The Electricity Minister, Mr Natham R. Viswanathan, announced a series of measures to step up energy efficiency in the State.

An organisation to oversee energy efficiency measures and to frame policies will be created, energy audit will be compulsory for High Tension and commercial supply, street lights in urban areas will be converted to energy efficient light bulbs, electric appliances in government offices will be at least three-star rated in energy efficiency and lighting fixtures will be changed to LED and other energy-efficient units.

Efficiency will be upgraded in the power generation facilities under the State power utility to save over Rs 200 crore worth of electricity, he said. Tamil Nadu has over 6,696 MW of wind energy generators with a potential to add over 10,800 MW. Over the next five years, wind energy capacity will grow by 1,000 MW a year.

WIND POWER

The State Government is strengthening the transmission capacity to evacuate and fully utilise the wind power. A Rs 2,752 crore transmission system has been recommended by the Central Electricity Authority and a second phase is under preparation.

A separate transmission corridor with 400 KV substations and 400 KV lines are planned.

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/industry-and-economy/economy/article3357255.ece?homepage=true&ref=wl_home

Subsidy for CFLs on cards

The Tamil Nadu Generation and Distribution Corporation (TANGEDCO) has plans to provide subsidy to domestic consumers for replacing one crore incandescent bulbs with compact fluroscent lamps (CFLs), Electricity Minister Natham R. Viswanathan announced on Thursday.

To be implemented in phases, the project envisages the provision of Rs.15 per lamp to domestic consumers and its total cost will be Rs.85 crore, Mr. Viswanathan said, wrapping up a debate on the demands for grants of his department.

Pointing out that automatic meters will be installed gradually, he said that initially, all high tension consumers would be covered.

On the transmission front, 400-KV (kilo volt) double transmission lines between Tirunelveli and Chennai would be laid. Besides, establishment of 60 sub stations with associated lines, improvement of about 2,500 circuit km extra high tension lines and installation of 120 transformers with enhancement of capacity or additional capacity would be carried out. The total estimate works out to Rs.1,868.59 crore.

Exclusively for evacuating wind power, a corridor with 400 KV substations at Thappagundu, Anaikadavu and Rasipalayam had been proposed.

The substations would be connected to the 765 KV substations being executed by the Power Grid Corporation of India Limited at Salem. A central load despatch centre would be established. A special purpose vehicle would be floated to take up the programme of increasing the capacity of demonstration wind mills, which were set up between 1986 and 1993. The capacity of such wind mills would be increased to 80 megawatt and another 80 MW harnessed from solar energy.

Farm connections

Five thousand new connections would be given to agriculturists in Cuddalore, Cuddalore and Villupuram, all of which were affected by the Thane cyclone.

Keeping in view the devastation caused by cyclone ‘Thane', it had been decided to lay underground cables in coastal cities, which braved the brunt of cyclones. This would cost Rs.490 crore.

The Minister said that a pilot project would be executed explaining the benefits of the installation of energy efficient agricultural pump sets. The erection of such pump sets would be made mandatory for new farm connections.

Farmers to be encouraged

Farmers would be encouraged to install solar-powered pump sets, for which 56 per cent subsidy would be secured through the Union Agriculture Ministry and 30 per cent through the Ministry of New and Renewable Energy.

Those chosen under the scheme could pay the remaining 14 per cent of the cost to such pump sets' manufacturers, to be identified by the Tamil Nadu Energy Development Agency.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/tamil-nadu/article3357502.ece

TN mulls corridor to evacuate wind energy
Though Tamil Nadu has the highest installed wind energy capacity in the country with a little over 7,000MW, it has been unable to harness the full potential. The state government has taken a serious view of this and has proposed to set up a transmission line with three 400KV substations to evacuate more power from wind farms. This announcement was made by the power minister, Natham R Viswanathan, in the assembly on Thursday.
These substations would come up at Thappagundu, Anaikadavu and Rasipalayam and would be connected to another 765KV sub-station coming up at Salem, said Viswanathan. The Tamil Nadu Electricity Board (TNEB) will also put mechanisms in place to monitor, control and direct wind energy generation online to avoid shutting down turbines during the windy season.
Tamil Nadu was first among the states to harness wind energy and has an installed capacity of 7,094MW – 37% of the country’s overall capacity – but the state-run TNEB is short on transmission lines to bring it into the grid. The state was able to harness less than 50% of the capacity – 3,050MW – on a sustained basis last year during June to September due to poor infrastructure. Although private players have been encouraged to install new windmills, TNEB has ignored the need to step up evacuation capacity.
The cash-strapped board did not have the money for extra high tension transmission lines and new sub-stations and the wind energy sector has been crippled.
A senior TNEB official said the existing transmission network is wholly inadequate for the wind energy generated in the state. “To evacuate power from all the wind turbines, we will have to cut down generation at thermal plants, which cannot be done below the threshold level,” he said.
“Against this backdrop, TNEB has been flooded with applications seeking permission to install another 10,500MW of wind turbines,” said V Raghu, director, Indian Wind Turbine Manufacturers’ Association. “It is a problem of plenty when it comes to managing wind energy in Tamil Nadu.”
B K Unnikrishnan, a consultant with US wind resource assessment firm AWS True Power, said good planning and effective management of the grid is a necessity to deal with the evacuation problem. “Though it is a common problem in all wind energy generating states, it is the worst in Tamil Nadu. A large number of windmills in the state have been switched off from the day they were commissioned. For now, they are dead investments," he said.
“Since most of our windmills are located in remote areas, where the demand for power is negligible, we need to look at harnessing wind energy in areas where there is huge demand for power,” Unnikrishnan said. “Another solution for the evacuation crisis is pumped storage — using excess wind energy to pump water back into reservoirs to generate hydroelectric power — a method that many countries use. Tamil Nadu has a 400MW pumped storage facility at Kadamparai near Coimbatore. More such units should be commissioned,” he said.
However, Viswanathan lamented that the Centre had been blocking its efforts to set up more pumped storage facilities. “We proposed a 500MW pumped storage facility at Kundah in Nilgiris. The Central government, for no reason, has asked the state to get the nod of Cauvery Tribunal for this project.”

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ENERGY DEPARTMENT
NEW ANNOUNCEMENTS

http://www.tn.gov.in/policynotes/announcements/energy.pdf

'Kudankulam power will bring relief to Tamil Nadu power crisis' (http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_kudankulam-power-will-bring-relief-to-tamil-nadu-power-crisis_1681401)

Tamil Nadu will get relief from the current power crisis with the commissioning of the Kudankulkam Nuclear Power Project, government told the Lok Sabha on Friday.

"Tamil Nadu will get more than 900 MW power when the Kudankulkam project is commissioned," Minister of State for Power KC Venugopal said during Question Hour.

Venugopal said the power situation in the southern state would be better when other ongoing power projects in state were commissioned.

He said capacity addition of 20,502 MW was achieved during 2011-12, which is the highest ever capacity addition in any single year.

"During 2011-12, the electricity generation in the country was 876.44 billion units with a growth of 8.05 per cent over the generation during the year 2010-11," he said.

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19. Generation based Incentive for domestic solar roof tops:
It is proposed to provide Generation Based Incentive for domestic
solar, i.e., solar rooftops for a total maximum capacity of 50 MW
during 2012-13.
20. Honourable CM awards for roof top solar consumers:
To encourage usage of solar rooftops Hon’ble Chief Minister’s
Awards will be given annually to different category of consumers
generating maximum solar energy through rooftops as percentage
of their total consumption annually.


Is this a part of roof top solar grid.?
How to avail the incentive from SG ?
Has any body from SSC installed roof top solar power plant ?
Which company is good in this job ?

few anti social elements demands ransom from Wind energy owners...Govt is not doing anything to protect them.
http://www.vikatan.com/article.php?aid=18755&sid=511&mid=2#cmt241
காற்றாலை அதிபர்களுக்கு 'கப்ப' மிரட்டல்!
கோடிக்கணக்கில் பணத்தை முதலீடு செய்து காற்றாலையில் இருந்து மின்சாரம் தயாரிக்கும் தொழில் அதிபர்கள் இப்போது ஒரு ரவுடிக்குப் பயந்து நடுங்குகிறார்கள்’ என்று ஜூ.வி. ஆக்ஷன் செல்லுக்குத் (044-66808002) தகவல் வந்தது.

நாடு முழுவதும் பரவலாக விண்ட் மில் மூலமாக மின் உற்பத்தி செய்யப்பட்டு வந்தாலும், தமிழகம் முதல் இடத்தில் இருக்கிறது. குறிப்பாக, நெல்லை, கன்னியாகுமரி மாவட்டங்களில் காற்றாலை நிறுவனங்கள் வெற்றிகரமாகச் செயல்பட்டு வருகின்றன.

மேற்குத் தொடர்ச்சி மலையை ஒட்டிய பகுதிகளில் எந்த நேரமும் காற்று வேகமாக வீசுவதால், இந்தப் பகுதிகளில் விண்ட் மில் அமைப்பதற்குத் தொழில் அதிபர்கள் பலரும் ஆர்வம் காட்டினார்கள். கோடிக்கணக்கில் பணம் போட்டுத் தொழிலில் ஈடுபட்டார்கள். இப்போது அவர்களுக்குச் சிக்கல்.

காவல்கிணறு, பணகுடி, ஆரல்வாய்மொழி, பழவூர் உள்ளிட்ட பகுதிகளில் ஒரு ரவுடிக் கும்பல் காற்றாலை நிறுவனங்களை மிரட்டி லட்சக்கணக்கில் பணம் பறிக்கத் தொடங்கி இருக்​கிறது. இந்தக் கும்பலுக்குப் பணம் கொடுக்க மறுக்கும் நிறுவனங்களின் காற்றாலைகள் தீ வைக்கப்​படுகின்றன. நாட்டு வெடிகுண்டுகளை வீசி காற்றாலைகளைத் தகர்ப்பது, வேலை ஆட்களை அடித்து உதைப்பது என்றும் பலத்த சேதத்தை ஏற்படுத்துவதால் என்ன செய்வது என்று தெரியாமல் நடுக்கத்தில் இருக்கிறார்கள் காற்றாலை அதிபர்கள்.

இது பற்றி, 'அன்னை விண்ட் ஃபார்ம்’ அதிபரான ஞான​திரவியம் நம்மிடம் பேசினார். ''பல கோடி முதலீட்டில் நடக்கும் இந்தத் தொழிலுக்கு உள்ளூர் ரவுடிகள் மூலம் சிக்கல் வருகிறது. எங்களை மிரட்டிப் பணம் கேட்கிறார்கள். அவர்கள் கேட்கும் பணத்தைக் கொடுக்காவிட்டால் காற்றாலைகளை அடித்து நொறுக்குவது, ஒயர்களைச் சேதப்படுத்துவது போன்ற காரியங்களில் ஈடுபடுகிறார்கள். இதனால் எங்களுக்கு லட்சக்கணக்கில் இழப்புகள் ஏற்படுகிறது.

ஆவரைக்குளத்தைச் சேர்ந்த ராமச்சந்திரன் என்பவர்தான் இந்த மிரட்டலில் ஈடுபடுபவர். அவர் மீது 20-க்கும் அதிகமான வழக்குகள் பல்வேறு போலீஸ் ஸ்டேஷன்களில் இருக்கின்றன. ஒரு தடவை குண்டாஸில் கைதாகி உள்ளே போயிட்டு வந்திருக்கிறார். இங்கே போலீஸ் தேடினால், உடனே மும்பைக்குப் போய் ஒளிந்துகொள்வார். பின்னர் சில மாதங்களுக்குப் பிறகு மீண்டும் ஊருக்குள் வந்து மிரட்டலை ஆரம்பித்துவிடுவார்.

ராமச்சந்திரனும் அவரது கூட்டாளிகள் இரண்டு பேரும் கடந்த மாதம் என்னிடம் வந்து 50 லட்சம் ரூபாய் பணம் கேட்டாங்க. பல தடவை என்னை மிரட்டியும் நான் பணம் கொடுக்கலை. அதனால் என்னுடைய விண்ட் மில்லுக்குப் போய் அங்கிருந்த செக்யூரிட்டிகளை அரிவாளைக் காட்டி மிரட்டி, அறைக்குள் போட்டுப் பூட்டிவிட்டார்கள். அதன் பிறகு, கன்ட்ரோல் ரூம் முழுவதையும் தீ வைத்துக் கொளுத்திட்டுப் போயிட்டாங்க. அதே நாளில் பணம் கொடுக்காத இன்னொரு நிறுவனத்தின் இரண்டு கண்ட்ரோல் ரூம்களையும் எரிச்சிட்டாங்க. இதில் ஒரு கோடி ரூபாய் வரை இழப்பு. ஒரு முறை பணம் கொடுத்தால், அதன் பின்னரும் மிரட்டி மிரட்டிப் பணம் கேட்பதால் அனைவருமே பயந்துபோய் இருக்கிறோம். இது பற்றி நெல்லை மாவட்ட எஸ்.பி-யிடம் புகார் கொடுத்து இருக்கிறேன்'' என்றார் வேதனைக் குரலில்.

பெயர் சொல்ல விரும்பாத மற்றொரு நிறுவனத்தின் மேனேஜர், ''நெல்லை, குமரி மாவட்​டங்களில் மட்டும் சுமார் 4,000 விண்ட் மில்கள் உண்டு. இந்த நிறுவனங்களை மிரட்டி சிலர் பணம் பறிப்பதால், முன்பு போல இப்போது நிறையப் பேர் இந்தத் தொழிலைச் செய்ய முன்வருவது இல்லை. ராமச்சந்திரன் எங்கள் நிறுவனத்தில் லட்சக்கணக்கில் பணம் கேட்டு மிரட்டினார். நாங்கள் தரவில்லை என்றதும் காற்றாலை டவரின் போல்டுகளைக் கழட்டி​விட்டார்.

ஒவ்வொரு மில் அதி​பரிடமும் 30 லட்சம் வரை கப்பம் கேட்கிறார் என்றால், எவ்வளவு பணம் வசூல் செய்திருப்பார் என்று கணக்குப் போட்டுப் பாருங்கள். ஒவ்வொரு மாதமும் கப்பம் கட்ட​வேண்டும் என்பது​போன்று மிரட்டல் வருவதால், காற்றாலைகளை விற்றுவிட பலரும் தீர்மா​னித்து இருக்​கிறார்கள். அதனால் காவல் துறை உடனே இதற்கு முடிவு கட்டவில்லை என்றால் காற்றாலை மின்சாரம் காணாமல் போய்​விடும்'' என்று எச்சரிக்கை செய்தார்.

இதுகுறித்து நெல்லை மாவட்ட எஸ்.பி. விஜயேந்திர பிதரியிடம் பேசினோம். ''விண்ட் மில் நிறுவனங்களுக்கு ஏற்பட்டு இருக்கும் பிரச்னை என் கவனத்துக்கு வந்ததும், உடனடியாக ஒரு தனிப்படை அமைத்து விசாரணை நடத்தினேன். சமீபத்தில் சில காற்றாலைகள் எரிக்கப்பட்டது தொடர்பாக மூலக்கரை பட்டியைச் சேர்ந்த பெரியதுரை, தெய்வநாயகிபேரியைச் சேர்ந்த ஆறுமுகம் ஆகியோர் கைது செய்யப்பட்டு உள்ளனர். அத்துடன் இந்த விவகாரத்தின் முக்கியப் புள்ளியான ராமச்சந்திரனின் உறவினர்கள் பிரபு, இளங்கோ ஆகியோரும் கைது செய்யப்பட்டு இருக்கிறார்கள். தலைமறைவாக இருக்கும் ராமச்சந்திரன் பதுங்கி இருக்கும் இடத்தைத் தனிப்படை நெருங்கிவிட்டது. விரைவில் அவரையும் பிடித்துவிடுவோம். காற்றாலை நிறுவனங்களை மிரட்டிப் பணம் பறிக்கும் வேலையில் யார் ஈடுபட்டாலும் அவர்கள் மீதான நடவடிக்கை மிகவும் கடுமையாக இருக்கும்'' என்று எச்சரித்தார்.

மின்வெட்டைக் குறைப்பதற்காகச் செயல்படும் காற்றாலைகளுக்கு பாதுகாப்புத் தரவேண்டியது அரசாங்கத்தின் கடமை!

^why can't they deploy private security force instead of paying the thugs..

Policy note for 2012-13 on Energy

http://www.tn.gov.in/policynotes/pdf/energy.pdf

^^ From above note..

Hydel, Coal, Oil Based Conventional Sources:

(i) TANGEDCO’s own generating
stations (Hydel, Thermal, Gas) :5677 MW
(ii) Private Sector Power Plants (IPP) :1180 MW
(iii) Share from Central Sector
Generating Stations :2861 MW
(iv) External assistance : 305 MW
(v) Others (Captive Power Plants) : 214 MW
TOTAL :10,237 MW
Added during the Year : 127.5 MW
(Thermal & Hydro)

Grand Total :10364.5 MW

Non-Conventional Energy sources:-

(i) Wind : 6696.61 MW
(ii) Solar : 10.00 MW
(iii) Bio-Mass Co-generation : 610.00 MW
(iv) Bio-Mass Power : 161.15 MW
(v) Small Hydro : 90.05 MW
(vi) Waste to Energy : 4.25 MW

Total : 7572.06 MW

(696 MW added since May’11)

Total Installed Capacity : 17936.56 MW

^^ total installed capacity is 17.9k.
peak demand is 12k...
if so, then why is huge power cuts?
so it means, actual power generation is less than installed capacity?
this document does not talks about actual power generation..

Wind energy is useless only conventional PPs running at say 65% efficiency saves us

^^ total installed capacity is 17.9k.
peak demand is 12k...
if so, then why is huge power cuts?


They consider only Thermal and Hydel projects when they talk about installed capacity in general. And that equals 10364.5 MW.

so it means, actual power generation is less than installed capacity?

Of course.. Do u think every plant operates with 100% efficiency?? Physically impossible..
And thermal plants in TN have a very good PLF(plant Load factor) which gives the efficiency..

And the average plant load factor of the thermal Stations for the year 2011-12 is 87.78% (excluding ETPS, since GoTN has approved for the replacement of the
Station which has served its life). The average PLF is way above the CEA norms of 80%

this document does not talks about actual power generation..

It does talk abt it.. U gotta read the entire document.. Here, from page 26..


1.3.4 Present Power Scenario:

The present installed capacity of the State is
10,364.5 MW. The average availability of power is
8500 MW. The demand ranges from 11,500 MW - 27
12,500 MW and the shortage is 3000 MW – 4000
MW. This shortage is being managed by resorting
to power purchase and restriction and control
measures

^^ murlee,
installed: conventional:10.3 non-conventional:7.7 total 18k installed
total availablity is 8.5k MW. is it includes both conventional and non-conventional?
if 8.5k is only from convetional, are we not getting 3.5k from non conventional to meet the peak demand?

^^ I guess they won't count the renewable because they are seasonal ones i.e it is not a big wind season now to use it to produce electricity if I am not mistaken

^^ I guess they won't count the renewable because they are seasonal ones i.e it is not a big wind season now to use it to produce electricity if I am not mistaken
Mk.
my question is simple. 8.5k is available and 3.5k is shortage
8.5k includes both conventional and non-conventional? if so, then we are getting around 50% of installed capacity.

if 8.5k is only from conventional, then are gettting 0 or neglibile amount from non conventional so that there is huge power cut?
then it shows we are not even getting 50%(3.5k) of non conventional..right?

Mk.
my question is simple. 8.5k is available and 3.5k is shortage
8.5k includes both conventional and non-conventional? if so, then we are getting around 50% of installed capacity.

if 8.5k is only from conventional, then are gettting 0 or neglibile amount from non conventional so that there is huge power cut?
then it shows we are not even getting 50%(3.5k) of non conventional..right?

Wind power generation was nearly zero for many weeks from Jan to till now. Yesterday wind mill in south TN has produced 600MW which is the symbol for onset of SW monsoon in June!

So take wind as zero
AFAIK Bio-mass power generation was also hit due to modification in sugar plants.
Solar is peanut 10MW
small hydro?? where is the water in summer!!

So in general non-conventional power will be zero from Jan to May for TN. Wind power production will start to raise from May and will be peak in August i.e Aadi month and will ago drop by Jan. So in simple forget that 7500MW power for 5 months... only solar can help us for this 5months!!

Out of 10,000MW on conventional power, only 7000MW is thermal/lignite and their capacity factor would be 90% i.e approx 6200MW only will be available for us.

Hydro installed capacity is 2500MW and their capacity factor will be far less in summer!! So they may contribute only 1000MW

Then gas would be contributing 300MW

So it goes like below

1. Thermal - 7000MW - 6200MW
2. Hydro - 2500MW - 10000MW
3. Gas - 500MW - 300MW

Conventional will give around 7500MW when the demand in 12500MW.

Non conventional will be zero. But wind and hydro will give hands by adding 3000MW-3500MW during rainy season. So usually during rainy season power cut will reduce.

By then Mettur, Koodankulam, Vallur plant will start to produce power and provide 1500MW-2000MW!!

^^.. Thanks Arul,,
Also in winter, demand will also reduce..
sincerely wish this will be the last summer to run on inverters..

^^A Pleasant surprice is that from 27th 12 noon to till now not even a minute power cut happened in my area. The other area had 3 hr cut yesterday mor. And then none happened.

The wind power giving such a capacity, to TN or especially for Trichy/pudukottai

U lucky Guy!!

^^ Same was the case in my home yesterday and today. I didn't notice it the day before these two days. :)

^^ Same was the case in my home yesterday and today. I didn't notice it the day before these two days. :)
madurai?

^^ Yes. I wanted to check my ups battery backup yesterday. Unfortunately (?!?!?!) the power was there throughout yesterday and today ;)

I think Wind has played a role..

On 28/4/12 , Wind capacity was 1355 MW and we consumed 21.683 MU :)

On 28/4/12

TNEB Thermal - 2550 MW - 61.76MU consumed

Central Govt Stations - 2512 MW - 58.2 MU consumed

Wind Power - 1355 MW - 21.683 MU consumed

Captive+Co-gen+ Biomass - 824 MW - 19.66 MU consumed

Independent Power plants - 832 MW - 18.8 MU consumed

Hydro - 772 MW - 9.03 MU consumed

Purchase thro' exchanges - 234 MW - 7.86 MU consumed

Gas - 86 MW - 3.24 MU consumed

^^ What does 'MU' stand for?

MU - Million Units.


Arul: Wind is never zero. Its average capacity factor is 30-33%. In the off months, it would be something like 10% and in windy months, it can go as high as 50%. So at any point of the year, we will be getting atleast 600 MW and in months like August, we can get as high as 3000 MW. Infact we got something like 3200-3300 MW last August. All the restrictions on HT consumers were lifted for around 1 month due to high wind generation.

If Mettur, Vallur, North Chennai, Neyveli and Koodankulam all start generation within August this year, then we may not see any load shedding atleast for 1-2 months this year. And ofcourse the demand goes down in winter and there wont be much load shedding even if wind generation is not great for the rest of the year. By next summer, the 2nd units of Vallur, North Chennai, Koodankulam and Neyveli should start production. Otherwise, we will again see a lot of power cuts next summer too.

Murlee where are you getting the stats?

On 28/4/12

TNEB Thermal - 2550 MW - 61.76MU consumed

Central Govt Stations - 2512 MW - 58.2 MU consumed

Wind Power - 1355 MW - 21.683 MU consumed

Captive+Co-gen+ Biomass - 824 MW - 19.66 MU consumed

Independent Power plants - 832 MW - 18.8 MU consumed

Hydro - 772 MW - 9.03 MU consumed

Purchase thro' exchanges - 234 MW - 7.86 MU consumed

Gas - 86 MW - 3.24 MU consumed


Murlee,
With all these added units & proposed units will we be self-sufficient by EOY or at least by next summer?
:)

Strong Winds bring power to Tamil Nadu (http://www.deccanchronicle.com/channels/cities/chennai/strong-winds-bring-power-tamil-nadu-156)

With wind-power generation in the state picking up in the last 3-4 days, parts of Chennai, including Kolathur, Villivakkam and OMR, were spared load-shedding Sunday.

The districts have been reeling from over 10 hours of daily power cut, while Chennai and suburbs face a two-hour load-shedding.

About 2.24 million units of wind power was generated on April 27 and 11.78 MU the next day. On Saturday, high-velocity winds made sure the generation shot up to 21.6 MU.

“Whenever there is supply in the grid, we are not enforcing load-shedding,” a senior Tangedco official said.

He attributed the sudden surge in power generation to rains accompanied by strong winds in the southern and western parts of the state.

“The peak season for wind-power generation begins in the first or second week of May and lasts till October,” the official said, adding, “Usually, power generation by windmills will be between 5 lakh and 1 million units in this period.”

The winds have brought much-needed relief to the corporation which has not been able to purchase power from northern states due to clogging of transmission lines and delay in commissioning of thermal plants in the state.

Tamil Nadu has an installed wind energy capacity of 6,696 MW, which is 41 per cent that of the country.

“Once the wind season begins, we will get 2,000 MW to 2500 MW a day from the windmills,” the official said.

The state is facing a deficit of 3,000-4,000 MW.

^^A Pleasant surprice is that from 27th 12 noon to till now not even a minute power cut happened in my area. The other area had 3 hr cut yesterday mor. And then none happened.

The wind power giving such a capacity, to TN or especially for Trichy/pudukottai

Yesterday No 1 Toll Gate area in Trichy got almost 24 hrs power supply with 3 or 4 times Interruption of about 2 to 3 minutes (maximum 10 Minutes for the whole day) ...

^^ Same was the case in my home yesterday and today. I didn't notice it the day before these two days. :)

+1. Literally there was no power cut here in TPK(Madurai) for the past two days. I was wondering about the Wind Power only. :banana:

For next few months we can expect this as well.

At Villupuram too, there was no power cut since Saturday evening(after maintenance)

^^^^

In Chennai suburbs, apart from the daily 2 hr powercut and monthly 8 hr / day powercut, intermittent power cuts are enforced without announcements.

( I am seeing the satisfactory smile in KT's face )

Methinks this slackening of power cut has got more to do with the increasing power production from the three recently commissioned units. Neyveli unit III (250 MW), Mettur (600 MW) and Vallur unit I (500 MW) were all synchronized recently and they would have started production at their rated capacity by now. Of the 1350 MW, more than 1100 MW was allotted to TN and that is helping the situation.

Regarding wind, as Murlee's post shows, it is only around 1300 MW now. However the peak season is between late July to end September and in that time period we can expect atleast another 1000 to 1500 MW. By then one unit of NCTPS (500 MW) and Koodankulam (1000 MW) would also start production. Hopefully Neyveli unit IV (250 MW) would also be synchronized by then.

The "crisis" period is getting over now although the supply demand situation will remain tight for the foreseeable future.

Murlee where are you getting the stats?

http://tnebldc.org/

Click Grid Details (Daily) (http://tnebldc.org/reports/peakdet.pdf) on the left hand side menu.

^^^^

In Chennai suburbs, apart from the daily 2 hr powercut and monthly 8 hr / day powercut, intermittent power cuts are enforced without announcements.

( I am seeing the satisfactory smile in KT's face )

I called home to check and it seems there was no load shedding (10 to 12 o clock slot) for yesterday only (resumed today). Clearly some one off bounty with wind combined with the fact that it was a Sunday. But again this was the first Sunday after a long long time without any power cut whatsoever.

http://tnebldc.org/

Click Grid Details (Daily) (http://tnebldc.org/reports/peakdet.pdf) on the left hand side menu.

Thanks :)

86 Percent Work on Kalpakkam N-plant Complete: Official


The 500 MW prototype fast breeder reactor (PFBR) at Kalpakkam will soon get its first lot of fuel assemblies - used to build its nuclear fuel core, a senior official has said, adding that 86 percent of the "physical work" on the plant has been completed.

The Rs.5,677 crore project is being built by India's fast breeder reactor operator Bharatiya Nabhikiya Vidyut Nigam Ltd (Bhavini). Kalpakkam is 80 km from Chennai.

"We will soon start getting the fuel assemblies in several lots from Bhabha Atomic Research Centre (BARC) while welding of blanket fuel assemblies was flagged off by Atomic Energy Commission chairman (Srikumar Banerjee) Saturday here," Prabhat Kumar, director (construction) and project director, told IANS.

The finished fuel rods are grouped in special fuel assemblies that are then used to build up the nuclear fuel core of a power reactor.

About the project status, Kumar said 86 percent of the physical work has been completed and by the end of this year all the mechanical work would be completed.

The reactor is wholly designed by Indira Gandhi Centre for Atomic Research (IGCAR) located at Kalpakkam.

The fast breeder reactor, which breeds more material for a nuclear fission reaction than it consumes, is one of the key projects of India's three-stage nuclear power programme. In 1985, India became the sixth country to have such a technology.

The supply of fuel assemblies for PFBR signals the comfortable position of Indian nuclear establishment with regard to the availability of uranium to run the atomic power reactors.

According to Kumar, the PFBR will have 181 fuel assemblies and 120 blanket assemblies.

The PFBR will be powered by a mix of plutonium oxide and depleted uranium oxide called MOX fuel.

"Blanket assemblies contain depleted uranium to absorb the excess neutrons that are generated from the nuclear fission that happens at the reactor core. After a few years, the blanket assemblies are reprocessed to extract plutonium for the initial feed of future fast reactors," P.Chellapandi, director, Nuclear Design and Safety at IGCAR, told IANS.

While the fuel assemblies will be placed at the centre of the reactor vessel, the blanket assemblies will be kept surrounding the former, Chellapandi added.

Kumar said the dummy fuel (fuel similar to the real one in terms of specifications minus the fission material) is expected in couple of month's time.

"This is the first of its kind reactor for India. We want to be sure about every aspect of the reactor before taking it to criticality. The fuel loading will be done only when we are very sure about the reactor performance and safety," Kumar said.

He said the project capex would not exceed Rs.5,677 crore but there will be some sizeable savings.

"A total of Rs.3,800 crore has been spent so far on the project," Kumar said.

http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=136518

In addition to the shortage due to less generating capacity, TNEB seemed to goof up on timing the Maintenance of its / others plants and synchronising the same.

At the same time, many plants had to undergo maintenance shut downs and that led to the peculiar situation of huge power cuts.

Now some of the plants are back on stream. It may ease a bit.

Thanks for correction Tshyam.

But heard wind power production was very low in March and Feb.

b/w there was just 1hr power cut in my home at Salem today... :cheers:

MU - Million Units.


Arul: Wind is never zero. Its average capacity factor is 30-33%. In the off months, it would be something like 10% and in windy months, it can go as high as 50%. So at any point of the year, we will be getting atleast 600 MW and in months like August, we can get as high as 3000 MW. Infact we got something like 3200-3300 MW last August. All the restrictions on HT consumers were lifted for around 1 month due to high wind generation.

If Mettur, Vallur, North Chennai, Neyveli and Koodankulam all start generation within August this year, then we may not see any load shedding atleast for 1-2 months this year. And ofcourse the demand goes down in winter and there wont be much load shedding even if wind generation is not great for the rest of the year. By next summer, the 2nd units of Vallur, North Chennai, Koodankulam and Neyveli should start production. Otherwise, we will again see a lot of power cuts next summer too.

http://tnebldc.org/

Click Grid Details (Daily) (http://tnebldc.org/reports/peakdet.pdf) on the left hand side menu.

thanks Murlee... I was searching for such stuff for long time.

Here is the comparison

1/1/2012 -

Demand - 10300MW
Demand met - 7900MW
Wind - Just 17MW

1/2/2012

Demand - 10200MW
Demand met - 8632MW
Wind - 468MW

1/3/2012

Demand - 10200MW
Demand met - 8652MW
Wind - 238MW

1/4/2012

Demand - 10200MW
Demand met - 8300MW
Wind - 84MW

30/4/2012

Demand - 10800MW
Demand met - 8900MW
Wind - 1550MW

Tshyam - It is due to wind. :cheers:

Still Mettur and Vallur has not stabilised their production. Compare thermal in Jan 1st and today.. it is clear that Thermal didn't made this wonder.

Hydro on 1st Jan was 1413MW and today it is 333MW

Arul.. How did u get the data for previous months?

Arul.. How did u get the data for previous months?

http://tnebldc.org/reports/2012/

Now it is very clear that amaiyar aatchi has stopper power purchase from external source now.:bash:

30/4/2011

Purchase IEX , IEX Weekly product, PXIL, PXIL weekly product KPTCL thro' PTC,TATA,JSW,RETL, AP thro' RETL , KSEB, GUVNL,PTC(ER,WR,CS),NVVN(CS),CSPTCL - 1125MW

Demand - 10700MW
Demand met - 9800 MW

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30/4/2012

Purchase thro IEX , PXIL & From GETCO thro GUVNL,JPL - 234MW :nuts:

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Intha purchase stop panni thaan laptop, mixie, grinder tharangapola..:bash:

:cheers: Arul

saw in very small houses in even remote villages, inverters there. looks like brisk inverter sales. tn must have atleast 2 million inverters.

Thats bad.. Inverters just hoard power.. Instead, people should be encouraged to go for renewables.

கை கொடுத்த காற்றாலை மின்சாரம் மின்வெட்டு நேரம் குறைப்பு (http://www.dinamalar.com/News_detail.asp?Id=458853)
காற்றாலை மின்சார உற்பத்தியில், 2,300 மெகாவாட் மின்சாரம் கிடைத்ததால், மாநிலத்தின் பல பகுதிகளில், மின்வெட்டு நேரம் நேற்று தளர்த்தப்பட்டது. காற்றாலை மின் உற்பத்தி தொடர்ந்து அதிகரிக்கும் பட்சத்தில், மின்வெட்டு நேரம் கணிசமாகக் குறைய வாய்ப்பு உள்ளது.


மாநிலத்தின் பல்வேறு பகுதிகளில், தனியார் அமைத்துள்ள காற்றாலை மின் உற்பத்தி நிலையங்கள் மூலம், மின்சாரம் கிடைத்து வருகிறது. தமிழக மின் தேவையை தீர்ப்பதில், காற்றாலை மின்சாரம் முக்கிய பங்கு வகித்து வருகிறது.இவ்வாண்டு அதிகம்: காற்று பலமாக வீசும் காலமான, மே மாதம் முதல் நவம்பர் வரை, காற்றாலை மின் உற்பத்தி அதிகரிக்கும். கடந்த ஆண்டு அதிகபட்சமாக, ஒரு நாளைக்கு, 3,100 மெகாவாட் மின்சாரம் வரை, காற்றாலைகளில் இருந்து கிடைத்துள்ளது.

தற்போது காற்றாலை மின் உற்பத்தி நிறுவுதிறன் அதிகரித்துள்ளதால், இந்த ஆண்டு அதிகபட்சமாக, 3,500 மெகாவாட் வரை கிடைக்க வாய்ப்பு உள்ளது. காற்றாலை மின் உற்பத்தி நிலையங்கள் அமைந்துள்ள பகுதிகளில், நேற்று காற்று பலமாக வீசியதால், உற்பத்தி அதிகரித்தது. இதன்மூலம் நேற்று, 2,300 மெகாவாட் மின்சாரம் கிடைத்ததால், கோவை, மதுரை, திருநெல்வேலி உள்ளிட்ட பகுதிகளில், மின்வெட்டு நேரம் கணிசமாகக் குறைக்கப் பட்டது.

மத்திய அரசு சதி: இதுகுறித்து, மின்வாரிய அதிகாரி ஒருவர் கூறியதாவது:மே மாதம் முதல், காற்றாலை மின் உற்பத்தி அதிகரிக்கும் என்பதாலும், கூடங்குளம் மின் உற்பத்தி கிடைக்கும் போதும், மின்வெட்டு நேரம் கணிசமாகக் குறையும்.காற்றாலை மின் உற்பத்தி நேற்று அதிகரித்த நிலையில், மத்திய தொகுப்பில் இருந்து கிடைக்கும் மின்சாரத்தில், 300 மெகாவாட் வரை குறைவாகவே கிடைத்தது. இந்த மின்சாரமும் முழுமையாகக் கிடைத்திருந்தால், மின்வெட்டு நேரத்தை மேலும் குறைத்திருக்க முடியும்.இவ்வாறு அவர் கூறினார்.

As per this article, Wind energy has helped significantly to reduce power outages.
They expect more wind power from this month onwards.
But the power from Central Govt distribution is reduced by 300 MW. if we have got it, power cut duration would have been reduced drastically.

yesterday night power production again crossed 9000MW mark :banana:

http://tnebldc.org/reports/2012/010512/peakdet.pdf

Demand - 10800MW
Yesterday night peak demand met - 9300MW
Wind power - 2000MW

April 30, 2012:

The Tamil Nadu Electricity Regulatory Commission has recently permitted the state transmission utility to hike transmission charges, practically tripling them. This is likely to have a big effect on REC market, and consequently, on the investments into the State, experts say.

The state has hiked long term open access transmission charges from Rs 2,781 per MW a day to Rs 6,483; and short-term open access transmission charges from Rs 28.96 per MWh to Rs 270.11— nearly ten times. Alongside, the State has also increased the ‘scheduling charges' for wind power units by 20 paise a unit.

This will impact very heavily on the REC market, says Mr Vishal Pandya, Director, REConnect, a consultancy that helps companies get and trade in RECs.

Already, a couple of prospective investors have decided against investing in the State, he said.

Tamil Nadu is one of the states that permits a renewable energy generator to sell the power to a ‘captive consumer'. Such sales are usually at a negotiated price that is much higher than what the generator would have got, had he sold it to the state distribution company.
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/companies/article3371376.ece

http://i.imgur.com/1xJRs.jpg

^Good find. Not terribly bad for big state. What is (RE) and (AP) for 2010-11 and 2011-12?

Re - Revised
AP - Advanced estimates.

Thanks CD..

AP is doing fanstatically, Why TN remains same

So all the investments about renewable energy is not totally worth whole We can use it only when for few months in a year essentially as a backup to save some coal cost and env impact

So all the investments about renewable energy is not totally worth whole We can use it only when for few months in a year essentially as a backup to save some coal cost and env impact

Not really. :) If we plan and implement properly, a combination of hydro, solar and wind can eliminate the need for conventional energy totally, atleast in a country like India. :cheers:

Wind power production nearing 2500MW :cheers:

http://tnebldc.org/reports/2012/030512/peakdet.pdf

2nd May night

Demand 10800MW
Demand met 9500MW

They said no proper evacuation facilities but how are they utilising wind power now?

They said no proper evacuation facilities but how are they utilising wind power now?

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=91021917&postcount=657

Vallur thermal plant's first unit to go on stream by June-end

NCTPS-II to follow suit in July

The first unit of NTPC-TANGEDCO joint venture project at Vallur will go on stream by June end and that of North Chennai Thermal Power Station (NCTPS)-stage II by July 2012, according to an official release issued on Wednesday.

An assurance to this effect was made by BHEL Chairman Managing Director B.P. Rao and NTPC Chairman and Managing Director Arup Roy Choudhury at a joint inspection and at the review meeting conducted by the Chief Secretary Debendranth Sarangi.

Mr. Choudhury said the first unit of NTPC-TANGEDCO would start functioning with full load from June end onwards. The second unit would be commissioned by September 12.

According to Mr. Rao, the first unit of NCTPS would be commissioned by July and it will attain full load operation by August. The second unit of NCTPS would be commissioned by October 2012. When it is fully operational, the State would get the entire load of 1200 MW of power.

Mr. Sarangi reviewed the work in progress of 3 x 500 MW NTPC-TANGEDCO joint venture project at Vallur and the 2 x 600 MW NCTPS stage II. He asked the officials to expedite the ongoing projects in view of the power shortage prevailing in the State as they were running behind due to various reasons.

The first unit of 500 MW of the Rs.8,000 crore Vallur joint venture project has already been synchronised with the grid on March 9.

The balance works is to be speeded up in order to achieve the full load operation. The State would be getting 345 MW of power each from the three units, an official release said.



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•Chief Secretary reviews the work in progress

•345 MW of power for State from each unit

http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/article3382435.ece

பிரதமர் உறுதி
கூடங்குளம் அணுமின் நிலைய உற்பத்தியில் 900 மெகாவாட் தமிழகத்திற்கு கிடைக்கும்
முதல் அணுமின் நிலையத்தில் உற்பத்தி தொடங்கிய உடன் தமிழகத்திற்கு மின்சாரம்
பிரதமர் மன்மோகன் சிங் உறுதி அளித்ததாக காங்கிரஸ் எம்.பி. சித்தன் தகவல்
பிரதமரை சந்தித்த பின் புதிய தலைமுறைக்கு அளித்த பேட்டியில் சித்தன் தகவல்

Source - PT News facebook page

^^ MMS has promised 900 MW from KKNPP output (From both phases? This man tells like it is going to be given after I Phase runs)

I hope this is clear how will be receiving power by end of SW monsoon i.e by end of September i.e usually the wind power will fall b/w the SW and NE monsoon (b/w sep and oct)

http://i48.tinypic.com/2m6vpzk.jpg

By Oct 2012

1. TNEB owned

Hydro - 2191 - 1400
Thermal - 2970+1800 - 2400+1400
Gas - 516 - 327

Installed - 7477MW (5677 now)
Actual - 5527MW (4127 now)

2. IPP

Installed - 1180MW actual prod - 907MW

3. CPP

Installed - 1537MW actual prod 455MW

4. Wind

Installed - 6500MW actual 20MW to 1000 MW

5. Central

Installed - 3861MW (2861 now)
Actual - 3000MW (2282 now)

6. External assistance 650MW

Grand Total - 10500MW considering wind contribution will be ZERO in Oct.

Presently almost just 1hr power cut across the state right from state capital to small rural town and no power cut in the night is possible with 9800MW demand... So with 10500 and also ZERO wind, I guess there is possibility that power cut may be history in TN considering there is just one or two month delay from the oppicers/minister/amaiyar word on commissioning of power plants!!

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Apart from above!! CG is supposed to give 450MW as relief to TNEB... If Vallur unit 2,3, Kalpakkam, Koodankulam unit - 2 also go with production.. I guess power problem will be completely solved and TANGEDGO will also slowly come out of sinking ship.:)

Any corrections are welcomable. :)

I hope this is clear how will be receiving power by end of SW monsoon i.e by end of September i.e usually the wind power will fall b/w the SW and NE monsoon (b/w sep and oct)

http://i48.tinypic.com/2m6vpzk.jpg



Vallur fully for TN? only 345 MW of 500 as quoted in the earlier post?!

M R Srinivasan: Is there an alternative to Kudankulam? (http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/m-r-srinivasan-is-there-an-alternative-to-kudankulam/473497/)

M R Srinivasan: Is there an alternative to Kudankulam? (http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/m-r-srinivasan-is-there-an-alternative-to-kudankulam/473497/)


The author says, solar PV power is Rs.20/kwh. Being a former atomic energy chairman, he should know facts from other energy properly.

^^ looks like an atomic energy jingu cha promoter.. oru jingu cha..report.. not that much honesty in the report.
with so much of solar energy, wind power, he should have talked with little more real grounds.

Kudankulam N-plant to start operations in 10 days: Jayalalithaa (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Kudankulam-N-plant-to-start-operations-in-10-days-Jayalalithaa/articleshow/13015841.cms)

CHENNAI: Springing a surprise, Tamil Nadu chief minister J Jayalalithaa on Saturday said the Kudankulam nuclear power project is all set to go on stream within 10 days. "Within 10 days we will start the project," an optimistic Jayalalithaa said after participating in the chief ministers' conference in New Delhi.

Senior officials at the Nuclear Power Corporation Limited, however, did not share the CM's enthusiasm about the short deadline for commissioning of the plant.

An official said that even loading fuel in the first unit may take more than 15 days as the Atomic Energy Regulatory Board (AERB) is yet to give its clearance. "Only the first inspection of the unit by an AERB team has taken place and another team of senior officials will have to check the unit. Only after that we will get the clearance to load fuel," said the official.

KNPP managers and NPCL senior officials have earlier said that the first 1,000MW unit will be commissioned only by June.

With TN hard-pressed to meet the growing power demand in the state, Jayalalithaa has been making fervent pleas for getting all the 1,000MW generated from the first unit of the plant for TN.

But the Centre has made it clear that TN will receive only about 400MW and that it would adhere to a prescribed formula for power sharing among states. Last week in New Delhi, Union minister of state V Narayanasamy said power production would commence in 40 days in the first unit and two months later in the second unit.

Officials at the plant have tested more than 600 pumps and motors, 200 control panels and a same number of electrical panels and individual systems in the reactor 1. Sources said three kinds of safety drill would be done before the plant is commissioned. The first two have been completed.

The author says, solar PV power is Rs.20/kwh. Being a former atomic energy chairman, he should know facts from other energy properly.

Alas I too expected E Sreedharan should know about mono rail, since he executed metro.

All our senior bureaucrats are hell bent on behaving like big jokers at best aping our cheap politicians.

But the Centre has made it clear that TN will receive only about 400MW
hm.. out of 400 MW, transmission loss and other things.. am searching for KT's post on how much we will realise it at from that 400 MW..

I dunno why u people are just rubbishing his article.. He makes perfect sense.

His point against wind:

To replace the two 1000-Mw Kudankulam units, we will need 800 units of 2.5 Mw size. This will require a very large land area, apart from a large investment. We must note that wind is available only 20-25 per cent of the time. So we will need some other form of electricity generation, as a backup, when wind does not blow

And plz remember we don't have 2.5 MW size wind turbine installed. As TShyam said, most of our current installed stuff is 250 kW or something..
Plus, his 2nd point of wind being available in full force only for 25% of the time is correct too.. Who knows better abt this than us Tamilians.

Against Solar;


Though Rs 20 may be high, it is not too off the mark. Still, solar is dependent on huge amount of subsidies right now. Read this article: Despite falling cost of solar power generation, it will survive on subsidies
(http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/opinion/comments-analysis/despite-falling-cost-of-solar-power-generation-it-will-survive-on-subsidies/articleshow/12989764.cms?curpg=1)

From that:

But the key difference lies elsewhere, and not just in fast-track clearances in Gujarat. Grid-based solar power will be paid Rs 15 per kWh for the first 12 years and Rs 5 per kWh for subsequent 13 years, with a total span of 25 years.

Modi is going to pay those solar developers at the new Charanka plant, Rs 15/kwh for the first 12 years.. That is not too low, is it?

And u people forget abt efficiency which he has pointed out correctly. 15-20% So, if u install a 100MW solar plant, which is hugeee as of current standards, u still would get 25 MW only.

Actually, the battle of nuclear energy is against thermal and not against renewables as of today as renewables can't dream of the scale and reliability that thermal and nuke plants achieve. So, stop comparing nuclear with wind, solar etc as of now. its little silly.

And pls stop posting crap abt senior officials/scientists as if u people are masters in those fields, especially those heading tough scientific fields.

Our nuclear scientists have overcome numerous obstacles and sanctions from the western world to put India on the global nuclear energy map. Give some respect.

Folks who support alternate means of energy generation should first

1. Be prepared to pay atleast Rs. 10/unit
2. Suggest cost effective means to store/distribute this energy. It is highly cyclical. Wind/Solar only work for portions of the day.

Alternate energy can be a backup source but can never supplant thermal/hydel/nuclear.

I dunno why u people are just rubbishing his article.. He makes perfect sense.

His point against wind:



And plz remember we don't have 2.5 MW size wind turbine installed. As TShyam said, most of our current installed stuff is 250 kW or something..
Plus, his 2nd point of wind being available in full force only for 25% of the time is correct too.. Who knows better abt this than us Tamilians.


No Murlee, 250 KW mills were constructed in the early 90's and are not so numerous. Actually most of our wind mills were constructed in the last decade only. Any new mill is either of 2 or 2.2 MW. If all 250 KW (and other sub MW) mills are upgraded, we may get something like 1000 MW extra. And once offshore wind mills come in place, the quality will be much more reliable.


Against Solar;


Though Rs 20 may be high, it is not too off the mark. Still, solar is dependent on huge amount of subsidies right now. Read this article: Despite falling cost of solar power generation, it will survive on subsidies
(http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/opinion/comments-analysis/despite-falling-cost-of-solar-power-generation-it-will-survive-on-subsidies/articleshow/12989764.cms?curpg=1)
From that:
Modi is going to pay those solar developers at the new Charanka plant, Rs 15/kwh for the first 12 years.. That is not too low, is it?

No, he is way too off the mark. Solar now costs less than 10 rupees. Yes Gujarat pays 15 rupees and that is a big blunder. It is going to be huge recurring cost on the utility but that doesnt mean that is the actual cost. In the recently concluded auctions, there were even bids as low as 7.2. So assuming the cost as less than 10 is not going to be wrong. Mentioning the cost of solar as 20 is way off the mark.


Actually, the battle of nuclear energy is against thermal and not against renewables as of today as renewables can't dream of the scale and reliability that thermal and nuke plants achieve. So, stop comparing nuclear with wind, solar etc as of now. its little silly.
The article in itself necessarily not the problem but the approach. For promoting nuclear you need not diss other sources of power. If you calculate from the per capita consumption of developed countries, TN would eventually require something like 50 to 60GW of peak power in maybe another 2-3 decades. Atleast 50% of it should come from non thermal sources which includes nuclear. There is ample scope for new nuclear power. There is no necessity for him to reel off exaggerated claims about renewables which are wrong.

Solar cost was over 15-17 rupees just 2 years back and now it has fallen 40% in two years. Now who is to say that it wont fall another 40% in the next two years? And it takes months to build capacity unlike other sources which takes years or even decades (in case of nuclear). So it is extremely unwise to write off renewables. His attitude was to write of renewables and that is why there is some people may be worked up.

And btw Chernobyl problem is not as trivial as he makes it out. I have seen presentations and interacted with oncologists from Belarus, Kiev etc and the incidence of thyroid cancers in the young people born around that time is nightmarish. You have to see to believe. The chances of a nuclear meltdown is near zero but once it happens, the effects are spectacular. Something like aircraft crashes.

Folks who support alternate means of energy generation should first

1. Be prepared to pay atleast Rs. 10/unit
2. Suggest cost effective means to store/distribute this energy. It is highly cyclical. Wind/Solar only work for portions of the day.

Alternate energy can be a backup source but can never supplant thermal/hydel/nuclear.

And folks who are against alternate energy means should first learn the ABCD of renewables before commenting. There is a thread in TN forum. Why dont you start there?

This week's article by Gnani is about water. But he touched upon power issues too

Source (http://gnani.net/%E0%AE%A4%E0%AE%A3%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%A3%E0%AF%80%E0%AE%B0%E0%AF%8D-%E0%AE%A4%E0%AE%A3%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%A3%E0%AF%80%E0%AE%B0%E0%AF%8D/)

அப்துல் கலாமுக்கும் நாராயணசாமிக்கும்:

சுனாமி வந்தாலும் கூடங்குளம் அணு உலைக்கு எந்த பாதிப்பும் வராது என்று சொன்னீர்களே, அப்படியானால் ஏன், இப்போது இந்தோனேஷிய பூமி அதிர்ச்சியால் சுனாமி எச்சரிக்கை வந்த உடனே கூடங்குளம் அணு உலையில் வேலை செய்துகொண்டிருந்த அதிகாரிகள், பொறியாளர்கள், ஊழியர்களை மட்டும் அவசர அவசரமாக பஸ்களில் ஏற்றி ‘பாதுகாப்பான’ இடத்துக்கு அனுப்பினார்கள்? பாதிக்கமுடியாத சுனாமிக்கு ஏன் பயம் ? ஏன் அங்கே சுற்றி வசிக்கும் மக்களை அப்புறப்படுத்தவில்லை ? நிஜமாகவே சுனாமி தாக்கினாலும் இதையேதான் செய்வார்கள் என்றுதானே மக்கள் நினைக்கமுடியும் ?

இந்த வார திட்டு:

தமிழக அரசுக்கும் மின்வாரியத்துக்கும். காற்றாலை மூலம் கூடுதல் மின்சாரம் கிடைத்ததும் ஏன் சென்னை நகரின் இரண்டு மணி நேர மின்வெட்டை உடனே கைவிடவேண்டும் ? அதற்கு பதில் வெளியூர்களில் பல மணி நேரங்கள் இருக்கும் மின்வெட்டை சென்னைக்கு சமமாக இரண்டு மணி நேரம் ஆக்கியிருக்கலாமே. முழுத் தேவைக்கான மின்சாரம் கிடைக்கும்வரை சென்னையிலும் மின்வெட்டைத் தொடராமல், மற்ற ஊர்களை மட்டுமே வதைப்பது எப்படி நியாயம் ?

I don't think he just dissed other sources but just pointed out to the problems that other sources have too, just like there are certain problems with nuke energy as well.

There is a certain 'nothing can be wrong with solar, wind' attitude and everything is hunky-dory with renewables and hence we can just ignore thermal/nuclear etc mentality among certain sections.

Reg. wind..

yes, the current tech has improved to 2 MW turbines. I just mentioned that right now, we just have 250kW turbines installed.. just mentioned it for the record.

To ur point that he dissed out wind.. I don't think he did.. He never says wind energy is bad. He just says, wind energy can't be an alternative to nuclear.

Do u really think we can do away with nuke/thermal and rely on wind completely? Arul showed the data for Jan 2012 wind energy to be 17 MW only in TN.


Reg. solar

u saying modi made a blunder? Blasphemy!!! :lol: just kidding..

On topic, yes, Rs 20/kwh is a bit much in today. he is a bit 'dated in this regard.

but still, we have 'the great Modi administration' paying 15/kwh, blunder or not, right?

And yes, we had 1 case of Rs 7.5/kwh in the 2nd round of bidding.. But, there are many who question its feasibility? Still, the avg. is considered to be around Rs 10/kwh or higher.

And with efficiencies as low as 15%, can solar replace nuclear/thermal?

Reg. both solar and Wind

An issue that is forgotten when talking abt both solar and wind is the amount of huge land requirements, apart from other various natural constraints.

Imagine the amount of land reqd to set up huge wind and solar plants?
Do we have such amounts of land in the wind sites, i.e Western Ghats with increasing environmental regulations?

For solar too, where do we have such huge amounts of land with very less people living except maybe in very few districts?

Remember, land acquisition is a burning issue in India..

Nuclear..

Nuclear is one of the best options for large power generation which is reliable today(as India is assured of uranium supply after US deal), requires less amounts of land, carbon-neutral etc etc..

Yes, Chenobyl was ugly. But, that was the only incident that caused loss of lives, that too decades ago. We have had no major nuclear accidents in India ever in the history of Indian nuclear industry. So, this paranoia abt how dangerous nuke energy is IMO just propoganda.

His intention was not to ridicule Renewable energy but just put across the fact that they can't replace nuclear in today's circumstances.
So, his question was, can these renewables be considered an alternative to nuclear today? Maybe in 10-20 years.. But, no chance, right now..

And yes, Shyam.. I remember that video showing Germany's attempt to completely rely on solar/wind alone.

But, it is still in testing/conceptual(?) stages in Germany itself. I am sure it would take decades to make that into a reality in Germany itself.

So, no point in talking abt that in India..

^^murlee, Tshyam thanks..
both there is 1 additional point on solar power plan in GJ..
for 12 yrs it is going to be 15 Rs/unit and rest 13 years it is going to be 5 Rs/unit
Solar plant is for long term..so if you average it for 25 yrs it will be close to 10 Rs only. i think it is fixed rate. so considering the Re valuation, inflation, current investment cost, immediate benefits..(it is easy to install and get the power, whereas nuclear plant takes decades to commission for just 400 MW..),, it is a good deal only...
Hope Shyam can add value to this.
No body is against nuclear plant here... but even after decades, we are going to get peanuts only, though it is a clean energy.
we need to improve our power situation by generating max from all the sources, but we can give focus on solar, wind energy because they can be commissioned easily, besides with a long term of vision of reducing our dependency on nuclear energy.

Hope it clarifies everything. But MR srinivasan article talks that renewables are not the source and only atomic energy is the source..

Murlee, TN Govt can very well utilise our resources and can add more power from bio gas too... Always "+ X" is good right...

out of 400 MW on KKNP, how much people will be getting (how much will be added to the grid?)

Plz tell me where he says TN govt should not utilize renewables? :gaah:

P.S: All power plants are long term only.. Its not like nuke/thermal plants would close down in 5 years or something.. Rs 15/kwh for 12 years is very high what ever long term or not..

whereas nuclear plant takes decades to commission for just 400 MW..),, it is a good deal only...

It is because of the embargos in place since 1974 and KKNP in particular got delayed because of USSR split...We are no different than today's Iran in till Clinton's visit in 2000.

It is because of the embargos in place since 1974 and KKNP in particular got delayed because of USSR split...We are no different than today's Iran in till Clinton's visit in 2000.
forget about the past...
In my memories, it was under the planning, building for the last 10 yrs.
even after this long 10 yrs, we are going to get 400 MW..(that too how much will be realised is question mark)
Jaitapur plant debate, i heard it way back in 4 yrs back.. not even single stone is built.

today also news story on wind energy reached 3000 MW and they expected to go for 3500 MW.

going by the delay in nuclear power plants due to different political,social scene, is it better to go and tap the wind energy or solar energy which will give you the power ASAP right?

Plz tell me where he says TN govt should not utilize renewables? :gaah:

P.S: All power plants are long term only.. Its not like nuke/thermal plants would close down in 5 years or something.. Rs 15/kwh for 12 years is very high what ever long term or not..
it is going to be 5Rs/ unit for the next 13 yrs.. why are ignoring that fact? consider the inflation cost, it is a good deal to get power for 5Rs/unit in 2023 right?..
also i could not understand about "on the grid" and "off the grid"..

exactly KT...whether it is 15rs or 10 rs/unit, no body complains about the govt there..
unlike what is happened here in TN during increase in electrical power..i remember most of the article, people said "1st give me the uniterrupted power and then you increase the cost"..
also today, i saw in MEGA thread that MEGA is going to promote 20 MW for wind energy to compensate the carbon emission by metro..

it is a good sign that emphasizing on renewable energy is getting more voice, more implementation..
am sure, if we sustain the same momentum on renewable energy, the dependency on nuclear power will be reduced.

Shyam also mentioned in some other post, that wind mills are established during 80s. We are reaping the benefits of it .. is nt it?
imagine the happiness, when you are out of power in this agni natchathram afternoon, and suddenly the power comes to switch on your fan or AC...

any thing will be great, if you get it "on time" right?

it is going to be 5Rs/ unit for the next 13 yrs.. why are ignoring that fact? consider the inflation cost, it is a good deal to get power for 5Rs/unit in 2023 right?..
also i could not understand about "on the grid" and "off the grid"..

No one is ignoring that..

His point is, Why leave ~RS 3/kwh Kudankulam power in 2012 for some Rs 5/kwh power in 2025 when no one knows what will happen at that time..

And I don't think u understand his article.. His article is to those who are asking to close down Kudankulam.

That is why his title reads, ' Is there an alternative to Kudankulam' and not 'Is there an alternative to nuclear energy'

Try to read in context.

No one is ignoring that..

His point is, Why leave ~RS 3/kwh Kudankulam power in 2012 for some Rs 5/kwh power in 2025 when no one knows what will happen at that time..

And I don't think u understand his article.. His article is to those who are asking to close down Kudankulam.

That is why his title reads, ' Is there an alternative to Kudankulam' and not 'Is there an alternative to nuclear energy'

Try to read in context.
Murlee,
i think we are clubbing 2 different articles for 1 topic discussion here.
as Shyam pointed out, current 15 Rs/unit might be expensive..
but that cost might be less when comparing with compensation on some disaster cost on nuclear mishaps.. is nt it..?
i did not go through the topics on GJ power and how much they are dependent on Nuclear power vs other power till now.

consider from TN perspective, if we are going to get peanuts from Koodankulam,. Both current TN govt and prev TN govt knows how much power we are going to get from KKNP. instead of waiting for long time to get peanuts, they should gone for some other sources..right?

Murlee,
i think we are clubbing 2 different articles for 1 topic discussion here.
as Shyam pointed out, current 15 Rs/unit might be expensive..
but that cost might be less when comparing with compensation on some disaster cost on nuclear mishaps.. is nt it..?
i did not go through the topics on GJ power and how much they are dependent on Nuclear power vs other power till now.

consider from TN perspective, if we are going to get peanuts from Koodankulam,. Both current TN govt and prev TN govt knows how much power we are going to get from KKNP. instead of waiting for long time to get peanuts, they should gone for some other sources..right?

:doh:

Ayya sami.. Who the hell is saying to TN that don't go for other sources? Why do u just assume TN is not going for other sources because of Kudankulam?

Shabba...

today also news story on wind energy reached 3000 MW and they expected to go for 3500 MW.

All those farms built in the last 10 years and if they were 50% efficient no powercut of this magnitude would have happened.


going by the delay in nuclear power plants due to different political,social scene, is it better to go and tap the wind energy or solar energy which will give you the power ASAP right?

The article is for those who portrayed nuclear power as evil and India cannot afford it. The power comes from solar or nuclear is not free and not reliable. A 40 year old Czechoslovakia built 450 MW plant gives 300 MW thought the year. Same is not the case with solar or wind plant. It can be a backup not the primary source for sometime say atleast when the cost is equal to that of the ones from nuclear plants

All those farms built in the last 10 years and if they were 50% efficient no powercut of this magnitude would have happened.



The article is for those who portrayed nuclear power as evil and India cannot afford it. The power comes from solar or nuclear is not free and not reliable. A 40 year old Czechoslovakia built 450 MW plant gives 300 MW thought the year. Same is not the case with solar or wind plant. It can be a backup not the primary source for sometime say atleast when the cost is equal to that of the ones from nuclear plants
Vinoth,
i also mentioned that it is not even in the last 10 yrs, even before, wind mills are established.
currently these non renewable sources may not be primary, but over the time if we keep investing on them, we may reduce the dependency on nuclear power in due course.
because we need to think on other side of the coin too,.. so far no nuclear disaster in india. Japan is having the ability to come out of the nuclear disaster.. do we have?

:doh:

Ayya sami.. Who the hell is saying to TN that don't go for other sources? Why do u just assume TN is not going for other sources because of Kudankulam?

Shabba...
but the discussion is on the article, where the author quotes that others are costly and only nuclear is viable as of now....
that is how this article is written. In contrast to this article, there are some states who keeps investing in solar, wind mills...
if the author is right.. then every state should go only for nuclear power only right...?

i see this article is biased with full emphasise to only nuclear power rather than a neutral article which talks about pros and cons. of all the resources.

i have heard him and 1 more guy (balachandran)..in the debate shows...
unfortunately both of them closes their ears for other's comments or points.. and these guy will only talk...
IMO, they are not good listeners.. even though they are scientists...

consider from TN perspective, if we are going to get peanuts from Koodankulam,. Both current TN govt and prev TN govt knows how much power we are going to get from KKNP. instead of waiting for long time to get peanuts, they should gone for some other sources..right?
KKNP is a CG project and like many other similar projects several states are beneficiaries. No wonder people started calling us greedy. They build 7000 MW wind projects in the meantime.. No one stopped doing anything, its just anything good rarely visible..

because we need to think on other side of the coin too,.. so far no nuclear disaster in india. Japan is having the ability to come out of the nuclear disaster.. do we have?

If we can transport nuclear devices thousands of miles without French Intelligence detecting till the very moment they were blown then we sure can come out of any disaster! India is too big to be hurt really bad by a single incident, no matter how large it might be..

KKNP is a CG project and like many other similar projects several states are beneficiaries. No wonder people started calling us greedy. They build 7000 MW wind projects in the meantime.. No one stopped doing anything, its just anything good rarely visible..
how it will be visible when the power cut situation exists for the last 3 to 4 yrs..?
i was in india till 2 yrs back.. how many nights we got power interruption, power cuts..to be honest, i was in chennai and not big effect. but rest of the TN, it is worse for the last 3 to 4 yrs. between 2011-2012 it got worst..

where you are getting the news that TN govt invested in 7000 MW? they are going to do now..

thank god, prev wind mills established way back came to rescue of TN people this summer. Lets hope other power plants (thermal and hydro), which are in pipeline should add power to the grid as per the schedule.

If we can transport nuclear devices thousands of miles without French Intelligence detecting till the very moment they were blown then we sure can come out of any disaster! India is too big to be hurt really bad by a single incident, no matter how large it might be..
Vinoth,
entire India nasama pogalinalum, nuclear power plant suthi irukkara area impact irukkumle....
we are yet to overcome on Bhopal tragedy.. even there was a case yesterday which people need to rely only Supreme court...

Until something happens, nothing sirr...if it happens? do we have the ability to recover?

I am not saying no to nuclear power as on today.. but we need to improve other resources, so that in due course after 20-30 yrs, we also can shut down those nuclear plants..
till that time, lets believe that they are safe..
lets not promote nuclear energy alone by these biased articles....

how it will be visible when the power cut situation exists for the last 3 to 4 yrs..?
i was in india till 2 yrs back.. how many nights we got power interruption, power cuts..to be honest, i was in chennai and not big effect. but rest of the TN, it is worse for the last 3 to 4 yrs. between 2011-2012 it got worst..

where you are getting the news that TN govt invested in 7000 MW? they are going to do now..

Large scale building of wind mills started in 2001 and by 2010 there 6000 MW was installed. If nothing was visible that shows how 'efficient' the source was. TN depended on wind energy and paid the price. So it will be cautious wrt to similar source.

KT,
could you please repost again on how much we might be realising it from the 400 MW of KKNP Phase1?

Large scale building of wind mills started in 2001 and by 2010 there 6000 MW was installed. If nothing was visible that shows how 'efficient' the source was. TN depended on wind energy and paid the price. So it will be cautious wrt to similar source.
sir,
we are speaking the same point again and again....
everybody agreed that TN govt (both the parties) are responsible for the current power crisis, because only a very few things were done between 2004 to 2010.

sir,
we are speaking the same point again and again....
everybody agreed that TN govt (both the parties) are responsible for the current power crisis, because only a very few things were done between 2004 to 2010.
Construction of Vallur, Athipattu unit 2 started in 2008.

ippadi arambichu, KKNP mooda solluvanga.. (http://www.dinamalar.com/News_Detail.asp?Id=462551)

I don't think he just dissed other sources but just pointed out to the problems that other sources have too, just like there are certain problems with nuke energy as well.

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I dont think so. Let us look at his statements one by one.

To replace the two 1000-Mw Kudankulam units, we will need 800 units of 2.5 Mw size. This will require a very large land area, apart from a large investment.

This is false. Anyone who has gone anywhere near a wind farm knows that a wind farm doesnt take too much space. Infact most of the wind mills are located on agricultural lands and the foot print of one mill is a few 100 sq.m only. Definitely even 1000 wind mills wont need the same area as the two koodankulam reactor. Next he talks about investment. Koodankulam costs 13000 crore rupees and installing 800 wind mills is not going to cost more. Further, anyone can easily figure out that while wind mills wont cost much to operate, whereas that is not the case with nuclear power. Apart from costly uranium, you need highly trained technicians and a host of support staff to run a nuclear plant of that size. So land and money is not where you attack wind power. It shows dishonesty.


We must note that wind is available only 20-25 per cent of the time. So we will need some other form of electricity generation, as a backup, when wind does not blow.
Yes this is the disadvantage of wind and he should have elaborated on this! I would have had no problem if he had done that.

The largest solar photo voltaic power plant in the world is less than 100 Mw in capacity;
Patently false and a blatant lie. It is not true even for India leave alone Asia and the world. And again the biggest advantage of solar is that it need not be assembled at one place. There is no difference between 1000 1 MW systems spread all over a industrial cluster and one 1000 MW system in a single locality.

the cost of solar power is about Rs 20 per kWh.
Again a false statement.

Solar cells available today have an efficiency of less than 15 per cent, and hence large collecting surfaces are necessary. Competitive designs may not be commercially available for 10-20 years.
I dont know what he means by "commercial availability". All the PV's sold are commercially available only.

The Achilles heel of solar is relatively high cost (albeit rapidly falling) and its periodicity. He should have elaborated on those.

I again want to stress that I am not against the article per se and invited myself to the discussion only because some of the facts were distorted. Yes we need nuclear but the arguments he put forth contains some dubious claims which is unbecoming of a senior scientist.

My point is that he could have been totally honest with the data and still reach the same conclusion. Either he didnt do proper background research or willfully made some dubious statements either of which is his fault and could have been avoided.

^^ on kudankulam cost of 13000 cr Rs, add 500 cr Rs from State for development of the area,+land..
i think entire land is given free of cost from SG..

Kerala seeks 500 MW from Kudankulam (http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/industry-and-economy/economy/article3390836.ece)


In the midst of Tamil Nadu demanding that the Centre allocate the entire power to be generated by the Kudankulam nuclear plant to it, Kerala has staked claim to 500 MW from the project.

In a letter to Prime Minister, Dr Manmohan Singh, the Chief Minister, Mr Oommen Chandy, has asked the Centre to provide 500 MW from the KNPP located in Tamil Nadu's Tirunelveli district in view of acute power crisis faced by the State, official sources said today.

With the Kudankulam Nuclear Plant's first unit of 1,000 MW capacity all set to commence generation, the Tamil Nadu Chief Minister, Ms Jayalalithaa, had written to Dr Singh on April 25 demanding that the entire power produced be given to it.

Refuting reports that Kerala did not want power from Kudankulam, Mr Chandy said a special package has been drawn up to take over land to construct a power transmission line from Kudankulam.

Mr Chandy further said the State was not in a position to draw more power from NTPC's power plant at Kayamkulam as it was costly. In such a condition, due to acute power crisis, Kerala has asked the Centre to provide 500 MW from KNPP, sources, quoting the letter, said.

Mr Chandy wanted the Centre to allocate power from KNPP under ‘unallocated' option, earmarked for States facing power crisis, the sources said.

Modi is going to pay those solar developers at the new Charanka plant, Rs 15/kwh for the first 12 years.. That is not too low, is it?


^^ Well, as is highlighted in that post, that original tariff was Rs 15 for 12 years followed by 13yrs of just Rs5, so in total works out to at Rs 9.8 over a 25yr period. This was a special tariff for projects completed before 1st Jan 2012 (later the deadline got extended to 1st Feb 2012) Logic of this is to encourage companies to go for Gujarat rather than Central Scheme, as companies can recover more of their start-up costs faster in Gujarat compared to elsewhere.

As was posted earlier, any new solar plant in Gujarat will get a considerably lower tariff (link) (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=88010285&postcount=5)

Intro Tariff to Mar 2012 = Rs 15 x 12yrs and Rs 5 for 13 yrs = Average Rs 9.8
Mar 2012 to 31 Mar 2013 = Rs 9.28 x 12yrs and Rs 7 for 13 yrs = Average Rs 8.09
Apr 2013 to 31 Mar 2014 = Rs 8.63 x 12yrs and Rs 7 for 13 yrs = Average Rs 7.78
Apr 2014 to 31 Mar 2015 = Rs 8.03 x 12yrs and Rs 7 for 13 yrs = Average Rs 7.49

So there is not as much difference now between the tariffs of Gujarat and the Central Govt scheme. 600MW may not sound like much when we on SSCI are used to reading about 4000MW UMPPs etc, but for Solar Power, 600MW is really quite significant on a global scale. The aim will surely be that by now the global Solar industry has taken notice and put Gujarat firmly on its radar.


And pls stop posting crap abt senior officials/scientists as if u people are masters in those fields, especially those heading tough scientific fields.


^^ Dear friend, with due respect for our scientists, IMHO, there is no wrong in pointing out wrong statements made by a person.

Wind/Solar only work for portions of the day.


^^ By adopting correct technologies(CSP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_thermal_energy), Heat storage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_thermal_energy#Heat_storage)), we can make solar work 24/7.

:cheers:

I don't think he just dissed other sources but just pointed out to the problems that other sources have too, just like there are certain problems with nuke energy as well.

There is a certain 'nothing can be wrong with solar, wind' attitude and everything is hunky-dory with renewables and hence we can just ignore thermal/nuclear etc mentality among certain sections.

Reg. wind..

yes, the current tech has improved to 2 MW turbines. I just mentioned that right now, we just have 250kW turbines installed.. just mentioned it for the record.

To ur point that he dissed out wind.. I don't think he did.. He never says wind energy is bad. He just says, wind energy can't be an alternative to nuclear.

Do u really think we can do away with nuke/thermal and rely on wind completely? Arul showed the data for Jan 2012 wind energy to be 17 MW only in TN.


Reg. solar

u saying modi made a blunder? Blasphemy!!! :lol: just kidding..

On topic, yes, Rs 20/kwh is a bit much in today. he is a bit 'dated in this regard.

but still, we have 'the great Modi administration' paying 15/kwh, blunder or not, right?

And yes, we had 1 case of Rs 7.5/kwh in the 2nd round of bidding.. But, there are many who question its feasibility? Still, the avg. is considered to be around Rs 10/kwh or higher.

And with efficiencies as low as 15%, can solar replace nuclear/thermal?

Reg. both solar and Wind

An issue that is forgotten when talking abt both solar and wind is the amount of huge land requirements, apart from other various natural constraints.

Imagine the amount of land reqd to set up huge wind and solar plants?
Do we have such amounts of land in the wind sites, i.e Western Ghats with increasing environmental regulations?

For solar too, where do we have such huge amounts of land with very less people living except maybe in very few districts?

Remember, land acquisition is a burning issue in India..

Nuclear..

Nuclear is one of the best options for large power generation which is reliable today(as India is assured of uranium supply after US deal), requires less amounts of land, carbon-neutral etc etc..

Yes, Chenobyl was ugly. But, that was the only incident that caused loss of lives, that too decades ago. We have had no major nuclear accidents in India ever in the history of Indian nuclear industry. So, this paranoia abt how dangerous nuke energy is IMO just propoganda.

His intention was not to ridicule Renewable energy but just put across the fact that they can't replace nuclear in today's circumstances.
So, his question was, can these renewables be considered an alternative to nuclear today? Maybe in 10-20 years.. But, no chance, right now..

Looks like the power cut is back. Today morning we had 1 hr power cut and again power is not there from 1.00 PM.

Looks like the power cut is back. Today morning we had 1 hr power cut and again power is not there from 1.00 PM.

Today morning at 7.50hrs, the wind power generation dropped to 500MW which is a week low from last monday in day time.

Beta Wind Farm to invest Rs 1,857 cr in TN, Gujarat, Andhra (http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/beta-wind-farm-to-invest-rs-1857-cr-in-tn-gujarat-andhra/473615/)

Beta had earlier planned to set up the proposed farms in Tirunelveli, Tuticorin and Theni

Beta Wind Farm Pvt Ltd is planning to invest Rs 1,857 crore to set up a wind energy farm each in Tamil Nadu, Andhra Pradesh and Gujarat, according to the subsidiary of Orient Green Power Company Ltd, owned by the Shriram Group.

Beta was earlier planning to set up the proposed farms with the same total capital in Tirunelveli, Tuticorin and Theni , but it later decided to split the 300-megawatt endeavour and go for two more states, stating certain bottlenecks in Tamil Nadu. :?

Orient Green Power, in a communication to the shareholders, said “evacuation and infrastructure issues” in Tamil Nadu had prompted Beta to revisit the plan. It has now “decided to set up wind farms with a generation capacity of 156 Mw in Tamil Nadu and 144 Mw in the states of Gujarat and Andhra Pradesh, where also the returns are expected to be equally attractive in terms of power generation”.

A consortium of 10 banks, led by Axis Bank, has sanctioned Rs 1,236 crore as a rupee term loan to Beta, which is engaged in generation, accumulation, transmission, distribution and supply of electricity, besides setting up of and/or maintenance of wind energy farms. The others banks include Canara Bank, Dena Bank, Karnataka Bank, Tamilnad Mercantile Bank, Vijaya Bank and Indian Overseas Bank.

For the loan, Orient Green Power had issued a corporate guarantee for the project to Axis Bank, on behalf of Beta. Besides, Gamma Green Power Pvt Ltd, another Orient Green Power subsidiary engaged in the business of setting up of wind mills and wind farms, is planning to purchase two WEGs at Gujarat, aggregating 4-MW assets. Towards refinance for assets of 3.98 Mw, it has a raised term loan from Bajaj Finance Ltd and Orient Green Power issued a corporate guarantee for Rs 23 crore in favour of Bajaj Finance.

With this acquisition, total capacity of Gamma would increase to 62.02 Mw.

Orient Green Power Company Ltd is promoted by Shriram EPC, a Shriram Group company, with investments from Bessemer Venture Partners of US and Olympus Capital Holdings, Singapore, for the creation and ownership of renewable energy assets. The company is one of the largest independent operators and developers; its portfolio includes biomass, biogas, wind energy and small hydroelectric projects at various stages of development.

As of September 2011, the company had 300 Mw of aggregate installed capacity. This comprised 250 Mw of wind energy projects and 50 Mw of biomass projects. The company has set a target to become the country’s largest renewable energy producer and other attractive markets, reaching 1,000 Mw by 2013.

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^^ Dear friend, with due respect for our scientists, IMHO, there is no wrong in pointing out wrong statements made by a person.



^^ By adopting correct technologies(CSP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_thermal_energy), Heat storage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_thermal_energy#Heat_storage)), we can make solar work 24/7.

Yes senthil.. I read GJ10's post in that thread itself.. Still, I feel its high. Just now saw ur post in Indian renewables thread which said solar PV may reach grid parity by 2015.

Also, the article talks abt the present situation, i.e 2012. Why miss out on ~ Rs 3/kWh power from Kudankulam ?

And that comment of mine reg. respect to scientists was not directed towards u..

^^IMHO keep killing Gandhi for every argument is far more offensive.

er.. What?? :? :?

er.. What?? :? :?
Ethukeduthalum Gandhiya suttutangalarangale atha solrarunu ninaikiren..

Seri ok.. Adha en ippo enna pathu solraru??

Confusion..

The Plant Load factor( i.e efficiency) for Nuke plants in 2011-12 is 76.9%

Increased from 51% in 09-10 to 76.9% in 11-12.. :cheers:

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