ive always dreamed of a tower that would compete against skyscrapers in the world, is being built here in Beirut and this has never happened yet!!!!!. I mean besides the glass issue, why didn't they ever thought of constructing or proposing at least a 300m tower?? havn't u asked this question to ur selves guys. Imagine the area, these crap buildings proposed are occupying (venus towers). Its like 1540 m2 and in this area we can probably build a 500-600 m long tower. Wouldn't that be much better for investments, employment, overcrowded city issues, tourism, beauty of Beirut and not the forget the competition against other cities. Isn't great for us to set a record among the highest skyscrapers in the world......I hope u guys share with me my point of view

I think a skyscraper is too risky of an investment in Lebanon maybe. I dunno I wonder this. Places like downtown are still unoccupied because the place is meant for the elite of the elite, but the elite will not invest in a politically volatile area, especially if they have all that money that they could invest anywhere else in the world. This is just a thought in my head I could be wrong....which I am sure you will all point out haha

^^^^walla lebanon has so much potential. u see what happens with 1 year of stability in lebanon AND IT WAS A RECESSION! I was talking to my uncle the other day, and he said that if lebanon was stable, the invstements would flood lebanon, he knows at least 4 developers from london who visited and loved lebanon and want to invest, and devolpop 300 m + towers but there on their edge of their seats, wondering if its safe or not.(thats only london, imagine what the khalijies would do!!) im telling u if we would have 5 years just 5 years of stability u would see what will happen to lebanon. harriri had the vision of this, and was progressing. too bad his son cares more about his pocket than his country.:bash::bash: on the positive side, he told me that if the government forms and the October clash rumors are put aside, more projects will be announced,(la cittadelle de beyrouth..etc) just wait and see.:cheers::cheers:

I hope so, and I agree with you about the whole stability part, but I am not sure we will get it. And I have mixed feelings about harriri, the father was good, the son is just a symbol that the harriri name is still in politics... unfortunately he isn't even a good speaker. I'm gonna stop here because I will just open the flood gates.

I hope we get skyscrapers, even more. I hope that there will be a reason for the ordinary citizen to go downtown again.

^^ well,u didn't have to say that part about Hariri,since other people only thing they do is TALK and destroy the counry,

I think a skyscraper is too risky of an investment in Lebanon maybe. I dunno I wonder this. Places like downtown are still unoccupied because the place is meant for the elite of the elite, but the elite will not invest in a politically volatile area, especially if they have all that money that they could invest anywhere else in the world. This is just a thought in my head I could be wrong....which I am sure you will all point out haha

^^ok lebnani, u mentioned that such investments are too risky and expensive on our mainland. If that is the case then shouldn't platinum tower be too risky to have been built!! Do u kno that platinum tower construction was estimated around 200 million$ and needless to say, with such a price, u can probably build a 300-400 m tower (excluding platinum....made of glass..etc) m not trying to stand against platinum's construction cause its one of my favorite towers but m just giving u an example. Watch this and compare:

Platinum Tower Beirut: Cost $200 million
Roof 153 m
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d184/rhmud/Lebanon/2dwdw.jpg

Moshe Aviv Tower Tel Aviv: Cost US $130 million
Roof 244.1m
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3027/2785431370_efa5e949b4.jpg?v=0

Shooooo, still complaining about the investments ;) """sorry for replying late"""

lol, ok there buddy you seem to have an ego to fuel.

I wasn't complaining, I was discussing something very serious which is the development of the country and its safety risking that investment.

Platinum's construction began before the 2006 israeli/lebanese war, so that was before our country was deemed risky again.

Also my argument was in regards to buildings being built out of glass, as we saw in the 2008 hzb storming of beirut many glass buildings and their facades were damaged in hamra, and If not mistaken the marina tower had glass broken as well.

Furthermore my point was actually in regards to the renovated low rise buildings downtown that have been unoccupied since completion almost 6 years ago. Those buildings are aimed at an extremely wealthy clientel that have the option of investing, and buying homes anywhere, being in a high risk city hinders the possibility of people buying housing in BCD. Those apartments aren't for a clientel that is obligated to live in this city.

Finally, Tel aviv and Israel in general is a country welcoming immigration and settlement, the people buying and investing are often staying, unlike lebanon where the people buying are
a) Khaliji's
b) Lebanese living abroad.
An apartment building like platinum might be sold, but will largely remain unoccupied year round, with the exception of a few summer months.

But I really actually don't understand your argument when comparing it to Moshe Aviv Tower, yes platinum cost more, and is not as high.

Thanks for writing about this!

Actually lebnani ur argument doesn't make any sense or reasonability to me........... especially that ur mentioning july war as if it was a turning point in the history of lebanon...lol...What ur talking about men!!..Ur discussing as if u have never lived in lebanon before. We've been living a war since forever!!! especailly in the last 30-40 years. Lebanon has never been in a stable political situation. We have been always facing risks especially from Israel.
And talking about the raids and glass, omg ur posing a lebanese group side of view which i don't have the intention to argue about, but let me tell one thing, just go back a little bit in time, and remember what happened in paris two years ago and what mess happened over there (broken glass, destroyed cars and signs and what more..) because of a simple political problem. Its just the same thing and this can happen everywhere but it had a little different taste here.....Look u can't cease projects in a country because of one day of political instability. And i think everybody takes responsibility of what happened at that time. And just for the records.....sama beirut was proposed before july 2006 war and become "approved" in 2008 or 2009 i think (it costs also around 200 million), and now its under construction and needless to say its made of "glass".....this contradicts everything u have mentioned.

The only thing that i can probably agree with you is, yes, all the wars we have faced drove us back in time, but the Lebanese people always have the will & the intention to improve their country's economy whatever obstacles they are facing. And i think Lebanon has a lot of eyesight from investors and potentials of developing a high rise skyscrapers. But the question is when is this gonna happen....I think its just a matter of time

Not to forget: ""But I really actually don't understand your argument when comparing it to Moshe Aviv Tower, $$$yes platinum cost more, and is not as high$$$."" PS: you have answered the question