http://http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/18411277.jpg

Etihad Stadium in Melbourne - only 56,347 according to worldstadiums....looks more like 85,000!!

Most any with a single tier looks smaller than it is.

Pictures would be nice. :/

Darlington 25,000 seater that looks more like 15,000

http://www.footballgroundguide.com/darlington/darlington33.jpg

Darlington Arena is the bastard child of the Stadium of Light and the Riverside.

Can a mod change there to their in the thread title please? :)

Maybe it's just me, but the Rose Bowl has never looked like a stadium of 92,000+, especially on the inside (presumably because of the gentle slope of the stands)...

http://www.lacsd.org/images/Departments/Education/RoseBowl.jpg

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/7871/rosebowlpanorama0241947.jpg

Same for Purdue University's Ross Ade Stadium which does not, to me, look like it can seat in excess of 62,000...

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/3361/staidum06967300701744.jpg

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/728/rossade07215870727536.jpg

Not a stadium, but Allen Fieldhouse is a TINY building (the entire structure is only 344 by 254 feet!). Yet every game, the University of Kansas Men's basketball team plays in front of 16,300 fans. Although there are usually even more fans than that because last season, the Jayhawks averaged 16,350.

http://www.greggriess.com/GRP_AllenFieldhouse_IMG_9128.jpg

blturner
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2149/2392411289_9bf231f5af.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ca/Allen_Fieldhouse.jpg/800px-Allen_Fieldhouse.jpg

http://www.kuathletics.com/facilities/kan-allen-fieldhouse.html

http://web1.ncaa.org/web_files/stats/m_basketball_RB/Reports/2009mbbattend.pdf

Something about the interior/exterior of the Alamodome has always seemed strange to me. Like the inside is larger than it appears or something.

http://basketball.ballparks.com/NBA/SanAntonioSpurs/aerial.jpg

http://www.uswfl.com/USWFL/images/stadiums/alamo%20dome.jpg

http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/sportatorium/Alamodome.jpg

My club's home ground, the Sunderland Stadium of Light.

Seen from most angles of approach the stands are very low and it appears small. The pitch is sunk 6 metres below ground level so you enter half way up the stand.

http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/8039630.jpg

You would never think it holds 48,300

That's a 3 storey building in the near ground, which actually houses the clubs offices and ticketing facilities.

This stand is on the right of this picture;

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/78/157117866_8dbe0e91fc.jpg

And the outside of the main stand which most visitors never actually see, due to the transport routes bringing them in from the other side;

http://www.freefoto.com/images/1042/05/1042_05_7---The-Stadium-of-Light--Sunderland-Football-Ground_web.jpg

Loved our old ground at Roker Park, but this place has become home over the last 10 years. It's the people who make a sporting venue not the location or the architecture.

This one gives a good perspective on the 'tardis' effect;

http://www.adslimited.net/AdvHTML_Upload/echobuilding4.JPG

On a completely random note, I bumped into Paul Michael Glazier at the roundabout south of the bridge in the bottom of that last picture prior to a match last season. He was appearing in panto at the Sunderland Empire and was just out for a walk. It was one of those surreal moments when you see someone you recognise in a very odd place. The place was very familiar to me but totally foreign to him. My mate spotted him and shouted, 'Hey Starskey', he turned around smiled and raised his hand in acknowledgement.

I have always thought that The Valley (Charlton Athletic) looks like it holds alot more than 27,111.

http://www.footballgroundguide.com/charlton_athletic/charlton_athletic40.jpg

http://www.footballgroundguide.com/charlton_athletic/charlton_athletic41.jpg

^^ wel lthat was the first stage in the process to increase the valley to hold 40,600.

Those two stands make it look bigger because they are complete. it's the jimmy seed stand which is tiny

This picture shows it better

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/84/Charlton_Athletic_football_ground.jpg

http://www.englishheritageimages.com/image/the-valley-charlton-24994_007_1329941.jpg

Yes I know that it has a smaller end stand, but I still think it looks bigger than it is.

Toyota Stadium. Can't believe that place only holds 45,000.

http://i49.tinypic.com/2nvxixe.jpg

I think this looks more than 52,000 people

Suncorp Stadium - Brisbane, Australia
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/25/98219800_fce812475a_b.jpg
LeeLeFever

Love the photos of the Valley.

As a Sunderland fan, I have been there three times and we also played in THAT GAME at Wembley!!

Is the Antigallican pub still there? Got to be one of the best names ever for a pub, although on the last occasion I was in there, the beer was so bad we went to an off license down the road and smuggled it in.

Rajamangala National Stadium , Bangkok ,Thailand

it's look more than 49,749

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1178/887005796_0a41f9ba04_o.jpg

http://www.twip.org/photo/southeast-asia/thailand/photo-14673-24-06-08-12-06-15.jpg

http://www.fussballtempel.net/afc/THA/Rajamangala2.jpg

Looks more than 27,994 IMHO: (I think it's the tiers that cause this)

http://www.footiewallpapers.com/picupload/Mladen86-38-stadioolimpicoditorino.jpg

A lot of American stadiums use bleachers I think they're called instead of seats, so they hold a lot more.

And I can't find pictures, but this holds 50,000 and is apparently an all seater, only pic I can find.

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/middle_east/iran/esfehan_jahan.jpg

Naghsh e Jahan Stadium in Iran that is.

A lot of American stadiums use bleachers I think they're called instead of seats, so they hold a lot more.

This is true to a point...Yes, there are a lot of stadiums in the USA that use bleachers, which are sort of the American equivalent to terracing. But bleachers are nearly exclusive to high school and college athletics, you will rarely, if ever, see bleachers used in professional stadiums (only one I can think of off the top of my head is Lambeau Field).

But most stadiums that use bleachers have assigned seating with numbers just like if there were individual seats. Also most schools have programs where season ticket holders can buy individual padded seat backs that attach straight to the bleacher that end up taking up just as much room as a traditional seat would.

This is the best picture of bleachers with assigned numbers that I could find...this is Notre Dame Stadium.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2347/2229577388_5e40f1842d.jpg

And here is a picture of Nippert Stadium getting new seat backs for this past season.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2528/3886581755_87339b98bf.jpg

And if you REALLY want to go in-depth here's a link to a photo gallery of the installation with some good detail shots of workers putting in the seat backs right onto the bleachers.

http://www.gobearcats.com/view.gal?id=52882

^Old Yankee stadium had bleachers, right? Or do baseball fields not count.

The Toyota and Rajamangala stadiums look like +70 000 capacity... Incredible!

Metallist Kharkiv stadium 41,411. Kharkiv, Ukraine (Looks smaller than 41 thousand)

http://pics.livejournal.com/stepbystep_hdr/pic/00213eqp



Donbass-Arena 52,641. Donetsk, Ukraine (Looks bigger than 52 thousand)

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_7JkzcmpRp6M/SwWBgKqZb4I/AAAAAAAABSQ/g9tiaRWoWHs/pano3.jpg

Kharkiv's has 41k because of the Athletic's course I'd say, don't know for Donbass, maybe because they're quite small tiers.

^Old Yankee stadium had bleachers, right? Or do baseball fields not count.

Well yes, but those were replaced with individual seats in 1978 (except in the outfield). I was speaking more modern day professional stadiums usually have all individual seats. The exceptions being some MLB stadiums with small sections of bleachers in the outfield that are sold very cheap.

And rereading my last post, I pretty much never made my point (that's what I get for writing it at 2 in the morning haha). So my point is that even though many American stadiums have bleachers and even though they do have a slight space advantage (I think I remember seeing a conversion factor of like 1.2 somewhere), it is not as big as some people might think.

The Emirates Stadium is huge in relation to its 60k capacity, particularly in comparrison to Old Trafford which holds a lot more. Credit to them for concentrating on comfort and style rather than capacity. If the seats in place here were crammed in like those at most English football stadiums, they could add another 10-15k on the capacity.

http://www.arsenalamerica.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/emirates-stadium.jpg

The Emirates Stadium is huge in relation to its 60k capacity, particularly in comparrison to Old Trafford which holds a lot more. Credit to them for concentrating on comfort and style rather than capacity. If the seats in place here were crammed in like those at most English football stadiums, they could add another 10-15k on the capacity.

http://www.arsenalamerica.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/emirates-stadium.jpg

Fuck off, i'd rather more seats or (Shock horror) standing places than comfort or style it's a fucking football stadium not the opera!

Yeah I see your point, but being crammed in like sardines, and having people piss in your pocket thesedays, in a brand new stadium wouldn't go down so well I don't think.:grouphug:

Particularly with the sort of clientele attending EPL matches in the capital thesedays, and looking ahead to England hosting the World Cup and the Emirates itself hosting other events.

^^ yeah but that's the point, if you've ever been to London you'll know emirates stadium crowds are nowhere near representative of london or our fanbase. I really hate the stadium and it's vibe (ok it has no vibe).

I take your point about "hot legs" and what not, but they don't cram you in like they used to, and the toilets are quite "clean". As I have repeatedly said on this forum Football stadiums should cater to all types of fans, not just Tarquin and Hooray Henry!!

Standing behind the goals, seats on sides, maybe even cheap bench seats also!

Does this look a 45k to you?


http://www.panoramio.com/photos/original/21546590.jpg

http://www.yata-garasu.jp/photo/wallpaper/toyota_02.jpg

http://www.yata-garasu.jp/photo/wallpaper/toyota_01.jpg

The steepness makes it look like a lot more.

^^ yeah but that's the point, if you've ever been to London you'll know emirates stadium crowds are nowhere near representative of london or our fanbase. I really hate the stadium and it's vibe (ok it has no vibe).

I take your point about "hot legs" and what not, but they don't cram you in like they used to, and the toilets are quite "clean". As I have repeatedly said on this forum Football stadiums should cater to all types of fans, not just Tarquin and Hooray Henry!!

Standing behind the goals, seats on sides, maybe even cheap bench seats also!

Omiya Ardija, Saitama's "2nd" club, did this. They have a standing area behind the goals at their new ground which was built in 2007.

Does this look a 45k to you?


http://www.panoramio.com/photos/original/21546590.jpg

http://www.yata-garasu.jp/photo/wallpaper/toyota_02.jpg

http://www.yata-garasu.jp/photo/wallpaper/toyota_01.jpg


yeah id say that was about 45k........amazing looking stadium tho!

Stadio Olimpico in Torino looks bigger than 27.000 seats.

Standing behind the goals, seats on sides, maybe even cheap bench seats also!

Damn right! Give one end to the away fans, one end to the home fans and let the prawn sandwich brigade pay for the wages etc. in their exclusive middle tier down the sides!

For some reason people associate standing and terraces with poor facilities! Give more food areas and a huge amount of toilets - that is replacing the old stadia properly rather than boring bowls.

^^ exactly that's what they do in other countries. Their cheap tickets maybe cheap, but their expensive tickets would make even premier league fans' eyes water.

I'd say terracing behind one goal, bench seats behind the other, with a corner terrace for the away fans and normal seats everywhere else. Or something like that. I wouldn't wanna give a whole end to away fans, home fans come first imho!

Toyota Stadium. Can't believe that place only holds 45,000.

http://i49.tinypic.com/2nvxixe.jpg

I suspect the reason is that it seems to have an abnormally high number of vertical access isles between what look like smaller than normal blocks of seats.

I know its been mentioned on here before, May Day stadium in North Korea doesnt look like it could hold 150,000:

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/asia/north_korea/pyongyang_may_day2.jpg

firstly i think for toyota stadium it is because of the incredible incline (out of curiosity what is the degrees for the upper deck and secondly i never reaised that May Day didnt have seats which would probably explain its capacity becasue it looks no bigger than 100k with seats

I wouldn't wanna give a whole end to away fans, home fans come first imho!

Detach it from the rest of the stadium slightly and let 'em tear it up! :lol:

This one doesn't look like a 30k to me:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y297/henry_yew/Singapore%202008/P1000662.jpg

http://initialm.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/2743829807_98377f60f1_o.jpg

http://estadiosdomundo.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/marina-bay-2.jpg

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa250/Sbz2ifc/International/MarinaBayFloating2.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/13/Ndp-2007.JPG/800px-Ndp-2007.JPG

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7c/Marina_Bay_Floating_Platform%2C_May_07.jpg/800px-Marina_Bay_Floating_Platform%2C_May_07.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/75/Marina_Bay_Floating_Platform_Grandstand.JPG/800px-Marina_Bay_Floating_Platform_Grandstand.JPG

Gaelic Grounds in Limerick Looks smaller than 49,500 seats


http://www.irelandaerialphotography.com/dr_f2_3918aWi.jpg

Gaelic Grounds in Limerick Looks smaller than 49,500 seats


http://www.irelandaerialphotography.com/dr_f2_3918aWi.jpg

That's actually Semple Stadium in Thurles, Co. Tipperary which holds 53,500.

The Gaelic Grounds in Limerick is below:

http://www.worldstadia.com/data/images/p/d/pdgs050615132911.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_x9WILXcdT_o/TUGB5RHBKmI/AAAAAAAAB3s/DUelFetNOpI/s400/gg.jpg
http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu22/0354791/GaelicGroundsFloodlights.jpg

Gaelic Grounds in Limerick Looks smaller than 49,500 seats


http://www.irelandaerialphotography.com/dr_f2_3918aWi.jpg

That's because it is smaller than 49,500 seats. Most of its capacity is standing room, not seating.

This stadium always gave me the impression it's like 10k over its actual capacity, I thought it was at least 36-37k when I first saw it. I was surprised it's only 28k.
The first modern stadium in Moscow and Russia.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1e/Lokomotiv_Stadium.jpg

I'd like to add the fantastic stadium from a Turkish hotel (about 6.000) with 3 tiers each stand making it look like a 20.000 stadium. Pictures were once posted about 2 years ago in another topic. Anyone?

43,000:

http://www.killerfrogs.com/msgboard/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=1559

43,000:

http://www.killerfrogs.com/msgboard/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=1559

I think thats the 50,000 seat expansion plan

Darlington Arena is the bastard child of the Stadium of Light and the Riverside.

:nono::nono::nono: No its not. Its the bastard child of Derby County's stadium. Its nothing like the stadium of light and the riverside was not built in a bowl design it had three stands and a single stand.

Darlington 25,000 seater that looks more like 15,000

http://www.footballgroundguide.com/darlington/darlington33.jpg

It only hold about 2,000 plus fans on game days. The Biggest sellout at the stadium was a Eton john gig. It was built by the owner using his own money and alot of fans were against it. The seats are bit small for anyone over 6foot.

43,000:

http://www.killerfrogs.com/msgboard/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=1559

I'm guessin' that's The Carter you posted....

http://media.star-telegram.com/smedia/2011/08/29/18/51/NWCLV.St.58.jpg

I'm guessin' that's The Carter you posted....

http://media.star-telegram.com/smedia/2011/08/29/18/51/NWCLV.St.58.jpg
moar like "Tha Carter II," amirite?

http://www.rapartists.com/_files/albums/full/1317_tha_carter_ii.jpg

I'd like to add the fantastic stadium from a Turkish hotel (about 6.000) with 3 tiers each stand making it look like a 20.000 stadium. Pictures were once posted about 2 years ago in another topic. Anyone?I remember... it's called Mardan Stadyumu/Stadium (cap. 7,428). Despite its small capacity, quite unique, a hotel that holds a stadium. Antalya is the place for it as it welcomes Europeans football clubs on their summer campaigns.

http://galeri.uludagsozluk.com/8/mardan-stadyumu_89868.jpg

http://www.faalfirma.com/yuklemeler/mardan-stad%C4%B12.jpg

Apparently it hosted the 2008 UEFA European Under-17 Football Championship.

Concerning this thread, there are obviously a number of reasons why stadiums look bigger or smaller than the actually are (in capacity): steepness of the stands/tiers, number of tiers, closed or open corners, shape (e.g. sloping down or up) and size of the roof, terraces/bleachers/seats (and for the latter: how wide are they and how much space is there between them?), business seats and skyboxes (logically take up more space per seat) etc. Concerning the impression of a stadium's size from the outside roof, facade, columns, pylons... are important factors as well as whether the stadium is dug out or not (or, in some cases, higher than its surroundings).

moar like "Tha Carter II," amirite?

http://www.rapartists.com/_files/albums/full/1317_tha_carter_ii.jpg

:lol:


....gotta laugh at somethin' this morning.

Wrigley Field (42,374) always looks much smaller to me:
http://www.wrigley-field-seating-chart.com/images/product/wrigley-field.jpg

And Old Yankee Stadium (56,936) always felt like there were about 100,000 people there to me...
http://www.launchphotography.com/Yankee_Stadium_panorama_4.jpg

:lol:


....gotta laugh at somethin' this morning.

yeah no shit

secondary needs A LOT of work

yeah no shit

secondary needs A LOT of work

Tell me about it. I would say 'that's what happens when you lose 13 starters...' but the offense seemed to click.

Patterson's gonna run those boys all week until they vomit all the slowness out.

Nya Ullevi: 43,000

http://www.modernyapilar.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Ullevi-Stadium.jpg

http://www.vykort.gotdns.org/img/10371.jpg

http://soccer.ballparks.com/Sweden/NyaUllevi/aerial.jpg

:nono::nono::nono: No its not. Its the bastard child of Derby County's stadium. ...the riverside was not built in a bowl design it had three stands and a single stand.

So does Derby. They were built to exactly the same design.

So does Derby. They were built to exactly the same design.

Yeah thats what I said

^Old Yankee stadium had bleachers, right? Or do baseball fields not count.

Most if not all major league ballparks have bleachers, including the new Yankee Stadium.

http://www.stadiumpage.com/yankee09/yankee_040309_21.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-3dWwJzcp4MY/TdPmB-jBtfI/AAAAAAAACcA/rxHG5IFGWEs/s1600/Salt%2BLake%2BStadium%2B02.jpg


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4097/4934829616_68ca97fa4e_b.jpg

For me João Havelange stadium, the athletics stadium for the Rio 2016, looks much bigger than 45k.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gtx05NzQMJQ/TG6cWKl_NHI/AAAAAAAABfc/iPii_nIiRjM/s1600/engenhao-lotado-2.jpg

Yeah thats what I said

You reply seemed to imply the Riverside and Derby were different, when they are the same design. Neither are a bowl as such, although they aren't going to win any popularity contests for their stunning looks either.

Yeah the riverside was never a inclosed bowl when first opened. Bit like what the britannia stadium is like now. Darlington's stadium is designed after leicester city's stadium king power stadium

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Most if not all major league ballparks have bleachers, including the new Yankee Stadium.
Got a list? Off the top of my head, it's REALLY short. Wrigley and Yankee. . .

Got a list? Off the top of my head, it's REALLY short. Wrigley and Yankee. . .

Arlington
Coors
Safeco
the Jake
the Cell
Dodger
PNC
AT&T

off the top of my head

A lot of American stadiums use bleachers I think they're called instead of seats, so they hold a lot more.

And I can't find pictures, but this holds 50,000 and is apparently an all seater, only pic I can find.

Naghsh e Jahan Stadium in Iran that is.

the stadium doesnt have seats , its just concrete benches

this is the first phase, it was completed in the early 2000s after 7+ years construction
the second tier is u/c and has been like that forever, it will give a total of 75000, seats are planned

the statium like many other public stadia under the hands of the islamic regime have taken over 15 years of construction, sepahan fc, the tennants are frustrated and moreso the supporters, ironically they play in the field of their local rivals for "now"

god knows when it will finish, its already a piece of history :bash:

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg809/scaled.php?server=809&filename=001zvq.jpg&res=medium

I always thought this stadium can holds somewhere close to 40k spectators, until I checked Wiki. Anyone recognize it?

Stade de la Route de Lorient. Home of Rennes.

For me....the Maracana football stadium never looked like somewhere where 205,000 could be squeezed in. There are far more imposing stadiums all over the world.

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/6229/maracan024.jpg (http://img838.imageshack.us/i/maracan024.jpg/)

http://img859.imageshack.us/img859/6880/maracanastadioninrio.jpg (http://img859.imageshack.us/i/maracanastadioninrio.jpg/)

Same story with Hampden Park, Glasgow. Once measured to hold 184,000. Fortunately never tested. Largest crowd was ( officially ) 149,415...although a turnstyle was overcome and another 15,000,..etc gained entry.

http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/9766/scozia02b.jpg (http://img543.imageshack.us/i/scozia02b.jpg/)

Stade de la Route de Lorient. Home of Rennes.

Well done. :)