^^^
ONLY local assmebly of EMU would enable KTMB to realize 5 minute KTM Komuter service frequenciesNot sure why local assembly would be needed. A company like CSR Zhuzhou can produce another 50 EMUs in a very short time, 3 years or so for the entire fleet.

The big issue is the upgrade to the signalling system, building the Sri Subang-Sg. Buloh link, establishing continuous 4-track operation from Bangsar to Batu Tiga, and eventually, tunneling from Bangsar Jct to Duta Jct.A local assembly would either means those EMUs from Bombardier/Hartasuma or some new JV of Scomi.I can tell you that Scomi is planning to build EMUs as one of their long-term viability plans.

I don't know how they will accomplish that at their facility in Rawang - may need to build another plant, maybe Batu Gajah? Batu Gajah can become "train city" like Tg. Malim is "proton city"

Cheers, m

Senior citizens to get 50% off LRT and Monorail tickets
Tuesday November 22, 2011
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/11/22/nation/9948941

PETALING JAYA: Senior citizens who apply for their concession cards can enjoy a 50% discount on Light Rail Transit (LRT) and Monorail services from Jan 1.

Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd (Prasarana) media affairs manager Azhar Ghazali said the concession was only accorded to bus travellers but next year, it would be extended to the LRT and Monorail services.

“Those who are 60 years and above can apply for the concession cards at the customer service counter at the Pasar Seni LRT station by producing a photostat copy of their MyKad,” Azhar said.

He said Prasarana has two different cards to offer to senior citizens catering for daily and irregular public transport users.

Azhar said daily travellers can purchase the monthly pass at RM50.

He added that the card for non-frequent travellers would be programmed to offer a 50% discount and the discounted rate would apply when it is swiped.

He said the discount for senior citizens on the LRT and Monorail is one of the efforts under the Government Transformation Programme's Cost of Living National Key Results Area which was recently introduced to address the soaring living expenses.

Azhar said the concession cards were part of the paperless ticketing system on RapidKL buses which operates on the Touch 'n Go concept.

He said the concession cards are also used by primary and secondary school students and the disabled.

Prasarana offers single ticket on LRT lines
Published: 2011/11/24
http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIMES/articles/20111124111435/Article/index_html

Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd (Prasarana) is implementing full ticketing integration of the RapidKL Kelana Jaya Line and
Ampang Line on Nov 28.

This is two days earlier than its actual schedule. Prasarana is the operator of the Klang Valley’s two Light Rail Transit (LRT) lines.

With the integrated ticketing system which uses a new MyRapid Pass and tokens for single journeys, LRT commuters would have the comfort of using a single ticket for the entire journey despite needing to change lines, said Prasarana in a statement today.

"With a single ticket, commuters need not exit the Masjid Jamek integrated station, and instead, just proceed to the other line to continue their journey," the LRT operator added.

The new system was originally scheduled to take place on November 30. But Prasarana decided to take advantage of the Nov 28 public holiday to put the system to full test.

"So, at 6am on Monday, the old ticketing system will be switched off in total, to make way for the new Automatic Fare Collection (AFC) integrated system," Prasarana’s group managing director, Datuk Shahril Mokhtar said.

He said the new system would also allow customers to purchase and re-load their tickets online in future via the website, eliminating the inconvenience of queuing at ticket vending machines and counters to purchase or reload.

The programme will continue with the AFC's integration of the RapidKL Monorail in the first quarter of 2012, before being extended to the whole system, to cover the RapidKL bus services in the second quarter of 2012. The current daily ridership for the three rail services is 420,000.

"We aim to push for an average of half a million daily next year," Shahril said. Installed by a joint venture Malaysian-Spanish company, INDRA-IRIS AFC Consortium (IIAC), the new system cost RM115.2 million for the LRT integration.

It comprises new sets of automatic gates, ticket vending machines, passenger service machines, mobile validators, station computer system, central computer system, initialisation machines and personalisation machines.

Contracted to design, manufacture, deliver, install and test the new system, the company is also responsible for implementing the online ticket purchase. -- Bernama

Interesting, I thought usually people will go for an off peak soft launch and aim for system stability before going for a long weekend peak school holiday kind of stress test. Good luck to whoever doing support on those systems.

@ Titiwangsa Integrate station
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Sad ,boring and pathetic lighting ,May be they should upgrade it to LEDss.

Sad ,boring and pathetic lighting ,May be they should upgrade it to LEDss.

The trains are boring also..u know what I mean :P Patut diorang buat stesen2 ni tertutup dan ber-AC.

Tak bolehke tukar koc tu jadi macam kat Dubai ? Laju, senyap , pengumuman pun clear .

Sad ,boring and pathetic lighting ,May be they should upgrade it to LEDss.
Its actually not bad... Some stations here in Singapore look sadder. :lol:

If the street lights are brighter than the stations something is not right here:lol:Its not so bad if its above ground BUT i have a problem if its a underground station.

If the street lights are brighter than the stations something is not right here:lol:Its not so bad if its above ground BUT i have a problem if its a underground station.

Komuter stations used to (still use?) street lights for their stations platform. ha ha.

Park ‘n Ride facility to encourage more use of public transport
Monday November 28, 2011
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/11/28/nation/9964945&sec=nation

KUALA LUMPUR: Transport Minister Datuk Seri Kong Cho Ha said the Park n Ride facility that is currently under construction is a response to the commuters' feedback on more parking bays to be made available at Light Rail Transit (LRT) and KTM Komuter stations.

He said the Government had begun construction of the facility in 18 stations which would be ready next year.

Kong said the facility would also include commercial shoplots, prayer rooms, washrooms, lifts, covered walkways and closed circuit television (CCTV) cameras.

He added that the amenities would also have disabled-friendly features.

He also said the Gombak LRT station was almost completed and would be available by year-end, while work at other stations would be completed next year.

The Park n Ride facility is expected to provide an additional 5,951 parking bays for commuters who own personal vehicles.

The project is an initiative under the GTP's Urban Public Transport NKRA to improve the public transport experience in a bid to encourage a higher ridership and be less reliant on personal vehicles.

Finally after ~ 15 years, the two Masjid Jamek stations are now one. Though Prasarana/RapidKL should have prepared the signages earlier on. Even the temporary ones are very hard to notice.

Finally after ~ 15 years, the two Masjid Jamek stations are now one. Though Prasarana/RapidKL should have prepared the signages earlier on. Even the temporary ones are very hard to notice.

In fact all can be planned nicely for these 2 stations? Why it needs 15 years? How many ppl have 15 years to wait? Idiot people planned idiot things!!:bash:

^^but still not integrated well, you have to climb up to 4-storey building in order to change the line....:ohno: It's suppose to be Ampang Line from Plaza Rakyat to PWTC being underground from day 1 it was build..so better connection with KJ Line at Masjed Jamek...:bash:

In fact all can be planned nicely for these 2 stations? Why it needs 15 years? How many ppl have 15 years to wait? Idiot people planned idiot things!!:bash:

Where were you 15 years ago :P ? If you remember back then, public opinion means so little to those who were in the position to make the changes. All the "saya yang menurut perintah" punya mentality and that also goes to the "government knows best" punya rakyat.

But now things are a bit different right ? So maybe should let go of those things years ago and instead focus on things that we have right now and on things to come.

^^but still not integrated well, you have to climb up to 4-storey building in order to change the line....:ohno: It's suppose to be Ampang Line from Plaza Rakyat to PWTC being underground from day 1 it was build..so better connection with KJ Line at Masjed Jamek...:bash:

Aha, STAR Sdn Bhd chose the quickest and cheapest options back then. Most of the line was constructed on KTMBs right-of-way. The only 'new' aligment was the elevated section from Plaza Rakyat to Sentul Timur and that track from Sg Besi to Seri Petaling.

Cheap and just in time for the Commonwealth Game. Too bad that at that time, they had to go through some pretty sparsely populated areas of KL.

On hindsight though, it's pretty fortunate that Renong built the underground passageway for their PUTRA Masjid Jamek station. If not probably you'd have an overhead crossing over the platforms, and ends up with a 5-storey station instead.

Date : 28/11/2011

Kelana Jaya LRT station

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After that, got myself token, you just need to touch it on the gate

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Took LRT to Masjid Jamek station

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Masjid Jamek LRT station

Now I can transfer without buying another ticket and exit fare gate, just walk to Ampang line platform

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Boarded train to Pudu LRT station

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Where were you 15 years ago :P ? If you remember back then, public opinion means so little to those who were in the position to make the changes. All the "saya yang menurut perintah" punya mentality and that also goes to the "government knows best" punya rakyat.

But now things are a bit different right ? So maybe should let go of those things years ago and instead focus on things that we have right now and on things to come.
Not only that, they were also built by different companies. I heard that the company behind the Bombardier ART aka Kelana Jaya Line made an offer of sorts that the government picked up. In addition, it would probably be hell to have another underground line at Masjid Jamek with the river there and all. Its not the best place to have a diverted river either to build the station beneath. If you ask me, its a terrible place to even have an interchange in the first place, so should be grateful that this Plaza Masjid Jamek project was initiated and, for once, completed.

^^but still not integrated well, you have to climb up to 4-storey building in order to change the line....:ohno: It's suppose to be Ampang Line from Plaza Rakyat to PWTC being underground from day 1 it was build..so better connection with KJ Line at Masjed Jamek...:bash:

haha typical malaysian la u...before integrated u want integrated...after all complete u said need to climb 4-storey...aiyooo syukur la now better then the previous one... :)

haha typical malaysian la u...before integrated u want integrated...after all complete u said need to climb 4-storey...aiyooo syukur la now better then the previous one... :)

Hehe, nice shoot....yup....better late then never....I'm complaining the way their thinking/planning 15 years ago :)..Hopefully, for the next upcoming integrated station would be design better than this...cheers all :cheers:

Hehe, nice shoot....yup....better late then never....I'm complaining the way their thinking/planning 15 years ago :)..Hopefully, for the next upcoming integrated station would be design better than this...cheers all :cheers:

He he, actually, the Pasar Seni station would be lebih kurang like this.

With pasar seni they have all the space they need ,simply no good reason for a excuse to screw up again:bash:

MRT sub platform > MRT concourse > 2 floors up to LRT concourse > LRT Platform = 5 storey maa. How else could it be done, unless you'd have stations like Maluri, escalator straight from platform to underground concourse.

^^^
Better followign Asok - Sukhumvit interchange at Sukhumvit 21 though

MRT sub platform > MRT concourse > 2 floors up to LRT concourse > LRT Platform = 5 storey maa. How else could it be done, unless you'd have stations like Maluri, escalator straight from platform to underground concourse.

If thats what it takes!Do it!Damm its not like we build these stations every other year!:)

I notice spelling error for KAJANG komuter station not KANJANG....

maybe they forget to monitor the station name....

aiyo !! station name also wrong spelling ah ?? mmg patut kena TERAJANG :bash:

Just noticed one thing ? What's the point of having station codes if they're not using it in the TVM ?

RapidKL Token
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News on monorail fleet expansion project :cheers:

http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v5/newsgeneral.php?id=630828

- New 12 sets of 4-car trains to be supplied by Scomi, first one by November next year
- Passenger per car would increase from 98 to 128 - a 40% improvement
- The RM 494 million project would also include upgrade of stations as well as electrical & mechanical system, and building of depot
- the old 2-car trains would be phased out, to be made as spares
- study would be done on route expansion
- two temples in Brickfields would make way for the project

No mention of monorail model - Sutra perhaps? :)

Scomi 4-car trains

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News on monorail fleet expansion project :cheers:

http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v5/newsgeneral.php?id=630828

- New 12 sets of 4-car trains to be supplied by Scomi, first one by November next year
- Passenger per car would increase from 98 to 128 - a 40% improvement
- The RM 494 million project would also include upgrade of stations as well as electrical & mechanical system, and building of depot
- the old 2-car trains would be phased out, to be made as spares
- study would be done on route expansion
- two temples in Brickfields would make way for the project

No mention of monorail model - Sutra perhaps? :)

They'd end up with the same amount of train = service frequency. No improvements other than capacity only then.

I think it is time for monorail to be automated so that frequency can be further improved.

Still, the monorail capacity is still too small.

128 x 4 carriages = 512 passengers

Assuming current peak hour frequency of 5 minutes per train (7 am to 9 am and 4:30 pm till 7 pm)...

512 passengers times 12 trains per hour....you get peak hour capacity of 6144 passengers per hour per direction.

Much lower than Kelana Jaya line or Ampang line.

Hence, way forward is even more trains and make it at least 20 trains per hour.

I think it is time for monorail to be automated so that frequency can be further improved.

Still, the monorail capacity is still too small.

128 x 4 carriages = 512 passengers

Assuming current peak hour frequency of 5 minutes per train (7 am to 9 am and 4:30 pm till 7 pm)...

512 passengers times 12 trains per hour....you get peak hour capacity of 6144 passengers per hour per direction.

Much lower than Kelana Jaya line or Ampang line.

Hence, way forward is even more trains and make it at least 20 trains per hour.

Meh, monorail is such an unreliable tech actually, I'd rather they'd built those "ugly" elevated LRT through Bukit Bintang if we had to choose between those two. It doesn't have track sidings, crossovers are only possible at terminus stations and not to mention the bumpy rides. If there's any track obstruction or switch failure then that's it, suspension of service for the whole line at worse or a single shuttle running on a single track at best. Hope there won't be any more new monorail line in Malaysia at all. May this be the last.

Demise of old ticket counter in Masjid Jamek station

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CCTV in one of the trains

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Meh, monorail is such an unreliable tech actually, I'd rather they'd built those "ugly" elevated LRT through Bukit Bintang if we had to choose between those two. It doesn't have track sidings, crossovers are only possible at terminus stations and not to mention the bumpy rides. If there's any track obstruction or switch failure then that's it, suspension of service for the whole line at worse or a single shuttle running on a single track at best. Hope there won't be any more new monorail line in Malaysia at all. May this be the last.

I think judging from monorails in Tokyo, Osaka, and subsequent construction of monorails in Mumbai and Sao Paulo...if monorail is properly planned with ample capacity (like those in Tokyo or Chongqing), it can be a viable mass transit within KL itself.

The problem running elevated LRT in Bukit Bintang is that I doubt it can negotiate really tight turn, such as the one near Park Royal hotel/ Berjaya Times Square.

Well, if MRT completes, then we may see KL Monorail role is more towards feeder line that serves tight inner KL corridors hehe...

[QUOTE=TWK90;86302581]Demise of old ticket counter in Masjid Jamek station

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PH, is color coded dark brown,
ST stations are coded as the mix of two.

New corridor from ampang line masjid jamek station that leads to kelana jaya line platform :cheers:

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I think judging from monorails in Tokyo, Osaka, and subsequent construction of monorails in Mumbai and Sao Paulo...if monorail is properly planned with ample capacity (like those in Tokyo or Chongqing), it can be a viable mass transit within KL itself.

The problem running elevated LRT in Bukit Bintang is that I doubt it can negotiate really tight turn, such as the one near Park Royal hotel/ Berjaya Times Square.

Well, if MRT completes, then we may see KL Monorail role is more towards feeder line that serves tight inner KL corridors hehe...

i wondering why the govrnment at past when they plan to build all these not make all these complement each other...u rite lrt n no station for it at kl sentral..u want to ride monorail...it is far far away from kl sentral...:ohno:

The problem running elevated LRT in Bukit Bintang is that I doubt it can negotiate really tight turn, such as the one near Park Royal hotel/ Berjaya Times Square.


Was thinking about this, about the tight curves, actually they can settle for shorter cars. Maybe based on those Bombardier Innovia 300 or Mitsubishi's Crystal Movers, like these.

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Was thinking about this, about the tight curves, actually they can settle for shorter cars. Maybe based on those Bombardier Innovia 300 or Mitsubishi's Crystal Movers, like these.

http://www.stewartimage.com/virginia_photographers/virginia_photographers/industrial_photographers_aerotrain.jpgthat crystal mover is pretty much the same size as the original ART Mark I train carriages - a little bit taller and narrower.

Once you get into that kind of size you are looking at the same width as an LRT guideway. Crystal mover and other people movers have the advantage for flexibility, but the monorail appears nicer to look at in an urban area.

Cheers, m

that crystal mover is pretty much the same size as the original ART Mark I train carriages - a little bit taller and narrower.

Once you get into that kind of size you are looking at the same width as an LRT guideway. Crystal mover and other people movers have the advantage for flexibility, but the monorail appears nicer to look at in an urban area.

Cheers, m
True. Less concrete mess as compared to the Crystal Mover system. My uncle is a rail engineer came to Singapore and asked why the government didn't opt for a monorail over the Crystal Mover in Sengkang. A lot less infrastructure needed as the guideway is also the track in a monorail system. In this respect, the monorail also has the advantage. It allows for an articulated system which allows better passenger movement and spread across the train than the Crystal Mover single car modular train.

True. Less concrete mess as compared to the Crystal Mover system. My uncle is a rail engineer came to Singapore and asked why the government didn't opt for a monorail over the Crystal Mover in Sengkang. A lot less infrastructure needed as the guideway is also the track in a monorail system. In this respect, the monorail also has the advantage. It allows for an articulated system which allows better passenger movement and spread across the train than the Crystal Mover single car modular train.

I think it's not impossible to have those cars with walkthroughs. You can see the list of systems that uses this kind of short-sized cars.

http://www.mhi.co.jp/en/products/category/automated_people_mover.html

Anyhow, it's just me that personally feel that the monorail in KL is more like a legacy of the failed fancy shmancy commercial mega-adventure that was KLLC rather than a properly planned mass public transit system. Ha ha.

This is in Wednesday's NST (Dec 7) but it's not online yet.

In the meantime, here are some pictures:

first part (http://twitpic.com/7pggcl/full)
second part (http://twitpic.com/7pggge/full)

The diagram in the 2nd part is a bit messed up - the Kelana Jaya line is in the wrong place as is the Ampang LRT line extension. And as far as I know, the KTM Komuter service goes from KL-Kajang (and beyond) and not KL-Putrajaya/Cyberjaya.

Cheers, m

Jalan klang lama was the original plan i remember via the super geduper giga city over the river!

KL Monorail maximum design capacity : 18,000 pphpd

Kelana Jaya line : 30,000 pphpd

Ampang line : 33,000 pphpd

If we build another Kelana Jaya type line, with 8 carriage long trains instead of current 4, we may get 60,000 pphpd line, that's our metro :D

Original alignment back in 1997 was to extend from Tun Sanbanthan to Kampung Pasir. From Taman Gembira, they should extend it to the Ampang Line Extension somewhere and provide another interchange. It would afford commuters more options - instead of going to Putra Heights/Masjid Jamek to get to KL Sentral, they could opt for the monorail option. Perhaps further extension could link Sunway as well... Its an option.

^^

Sunway may get elevated BRT instead, that will link Sunway to LRT station and KTM Komuter station.

^^

Sunway may get elevated BRT instead, that will link Sunway to LRT station and KTM Komuter station.



I tot they have removed the monorail?

Wouldn't it be better if Sunway were directly linked to KL through monorail? :) But well, Sunway is also a mess and BRT might be able to serve it better, though I have no idea how a system that takes up road space can get priority in jammed up Sunway. And if dedicated infrastructure is built, why not go for mass rail then?

Wouldn't it be better if Sunway were directly linked to KL through monorail? :) But well, Sunway is also a mess and BRT might be able to serve it better, though I have no idea how a system that takes up road space can get priority in jammed up Sunway. And if dedicated infrastructure is built, why not go for mass rail then?

USJ, Subang Jaya, Sunway, PJS, Jalan Klang Lama deserve their own line into the city instead of piggybacking on the KJ Line extension.

USJ, Subang Jaya, Sunway, PJS, Jalan Klang Lama deserve their own line into the city instead of piggybacking on the KJ Line extension.They have their own line into the city - the KTM Komuter. Too bad that KTM Komuter sucks because there has been no proper investment and service expansion (not extension) in the area since the line first started operating.

By all means, extend the monorail from Taman Gembira along the Klang River to serve the north side of Kinrara and the south/east side of Taman Medan & Sunway - the line can terminate at the Kelana Jaya LRT line.

Cheers, m

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A quick quiz for you to enjoy.

If Laluan 3 is for Ampang and
Laluan 4 is for Putra Heights and
Laluan 5 is for Kelana Jaya

Anybody wants to have a guess on what are Lines 1,2,6,7 & 8 ?

Answer here (http://www.spad.gov.my/images/peta%20transit%20lembah%20klang.pdf) :

Bonus question : spot the cicak (gecko) in the first picture. :P

Laluan 1 - Sg Gadut - Seremban - Rawang - Tg Malim
Laluan 2 - Pel Klang - Sentul - Batu Caves
Laluan 3 - Ampang - Sentul Timur
Laluan 4 - Sri Petaling - Sentul Timur
Laluan 5 - Kelana Jaya - Gombak

Laluan 6, 7, 8 might be any one of monorail, KLIA Ekspres, KLIA Transit

Laluan 1 - Sg Gadut - Seremban - Rawang - Tg Malim
Laluan 2 - Pel Klang - Sentul - Batu Caves
Laluan 3 - Ampang - Sentul Timur
Laluan 4 - Sri Petaling - Sentul Timur
Laluan 5 - Kelana Jaya - Gombak

Laluan 6, 7, 8 might be any one of monorail, KLIA Ekspres, KLIA Transit

Yeah, by chronological order. I'd always thought that they started the Komuter to Port Klang first. Guess I was wrong. lol.

Somehow, Port Klang - Sentul - Batu Caves has always been the secondary line in KTM. The Sg Gadut - Seremban - Rawang - Tg Malim line was always line A when we had the alphabetical order. And Klang line was line B.

Slight chink there, cause laluan Kelana Jaya operated first, before laluan Sri Petaling. So if in strict chronological order, its off.

Laluan 1 - Sg Gadut - Seremban - Rawang - Tg Malim
Laluan 2 - Pel Klang - Sentul - Batu Caves
Laluan 3 - Ampang - Sentul Timur
Laluan 4 - Sri Petaling - Sentul Timur
Laluan 5 - Kelana Jaya - Gombak

Laluan 6, 7, 8 might be any one of monorail, KLIA Ekspres, KLIA Transit

Future rail lines will be:

Laluan 9 - Sg Buloh - Kajang
Laluan 10 - KL Circle Line
Laluan 11 - Selayang - Sg Buloh - ??? (Putrajaya)

Amazing how it's sorted out.

Ha ha, yes, but then not sure what colour they will use for SBK Line 9. Last time was red or was it blue ? But both are taken by Line 1 & 2.

Purple? Orange or Yellow (depending how you see the Laluan 3 colour). Lime, dark green. A lot of colours still. :) Grey even.

He he, I always thought you would usually go for the primary colors first, and then the secondary, and then baru all the colors under the sky.

Seems yet again they ding dong on whether the Ampang/SP Line should be considered as 1 line with branches or 2 lines on track/platform sharing.

And as somebody asked me rather innocently at masjid jamek, "I want to go to Sri Petaling not Ampang, but why they asked me to take the Ampang one (Line)". Maybe they should just do off with the confusing KJ/Ampang/SP Line headache naming thingy and just stick with numbers instead.

I believe they should go with the double colour thing considering that the Ampang branch will be taken over by the Circle Line in future. It would ease the transition. Also, it should be called the Sri Petaling Line. That way, when trains from Ampang no longer come in to Masjid Jamek, it would not be so confusing. The best was when they referred to both separately - laluan Ampang (yellow line) and laluan Sri Petaling (green line).

Wasn't red the Kelana Jaya Line? SBK Line could be green?

Wasn't red the Kelana Jaya Line? SBK Line could be green?

it's not exactly red. i think it's deep pink

it's not exactly red. i think it's deep pink

Was salmon pink, then somehow like deep red pink. Why couldn't they just stick with pink ? :(

ktm service here n at east coast just like sky n earth...while our frend demanding for fastest n more frequency..we here take 15 hrs from kl to kb by train...i dont know when government will upgrade infrastructure at east coast....

ktm service here n at east coast just like sky n earth...while our frend demanding for fastest n more frequency..we here take 15 hrs from kl to kb by train...i dont know when government will upgrade infrastructure at east coast....

Maybe they are waiting for the hiway to KB to be built first :P

Hang Tuah station upgrade

10/12/2011

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Maybe they are waiting for the hiway to KB to be built first :P

haiyoo..we even dont have highway...takes 8 hrs by car to kelantan...

but i heard the government is studying to construct rail to connect kb kt kuantan n kl

Thanks for the photos TWK90. :) Looks like they are still figuring out how to do the station code signage?

Hang Tuah station upgrade

10/12/2011

http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/114/dsc03284b.jpg

Is the upgrading for the purpose to integrate the LRT station with the Monorail station?

Is the upgrading for the purpose to integrate the LRT station with the Monorail station?

Absolute yes.

Infact, monorail ticketing system will be integrated to those of LRT's.

^^^
Next time, I'll try riding the systme with the integrated ticket system to allow me to go form one system to antoehr withotu havign to purchase the multiple store value tickets

Absolute yes.

Infact, monorail ticketing system will be integrated to those of LRT's.



good news:banana:

interesting, Hang Tuah interchange station looks huge and spacious. I wonder if they are going to fill it with small stalls?

^^^
Next time, I'll try riding the systme with the integrated ticket system to allow me to go form one system to antoehr withotu havign to purchase the multiple store value tickets

in KL,just use that TnGo card easier....:)

good news:banana:

Another designated interchange between Ampang line and monorail line is Titiwangsa station.

^^^
Next time, I'll try riding the systme with the integrated ticket system to allow me to go form one system to antoehr withotu havign to purchase the multiple store value tickets

The biggest integration would be the proposed ticketing system integration between RapidKL lines and KTM Komuter. I am waiting for that.

Another designated interchange between Ampang line and monorail line is Titiwangsa station.

I thought that titiwangsa has always been an nterchange station.

I thought that titiwangsa has always been an nterchange station.

Interchange as in, the link between monorail and LRT parts of the station will become paid-area.

Peak hour commuting in Masjid Jamek station

Date : 12/12/2011

Time : 5:50 pm

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I hope the prasrana can get the underground station a new paint...

very dirty the wall....somehow like ampang park station....

^^^
Better change from painting to floor & wall tiles to ease the cleansing

^^^
Better change from painting to floor & wall tiles to ease the cleansing

It should be from the beginning but our LRT stations just like normal bricks wall without any tiles covering them....

I wish our next MRT projects will be on all glasses and tiles...
wish to be next singapore MRT stations...

Ampang park station is good actually....very bright colour and impressive...
bangkok MRT underground stations also good...:)

My Google search on Bombardier Innovia ART 300 (latest version of Advanced Rapid Transit system) has found this interesting brochure.

http://www.ccmetro.com/iframe/bombardier/images/%E5%BA%9E%E5%B7%B4%E8%BF%AAINNOVIA%20ART%20300%E7%9B%B4%E7%BA%BF%E7%94%B5%E6%9C%BA%E7%B3%BB%E7%BB%9F.pdf

The Innovia ART 300 has top design speed of 100 km/h, with configuration ranging between 2 carriage or 4 carriage or even 6 carriage long trains.

It is possible to run the train at 75 seconds interval.

The carrying capacity of the system is as mentioned in brochure...

2 car train at 75 seconds headway, 17,760 pphpd

4 car train at 75 seconds headway, 35,520 pphpd

6 car train at 75 seconds headway, 53,280 pphpd

Each carriage can carry between 134 and 185 passengers

My Google search on Bombardier Innovia ART 300 (latest version of Advanced Rapid Transit system) has found this interesting brochure.

http://www.ccmetro.com/iframe/bombardier/images/%E5%BA%9E%E5%B7%B4%E8%BF%AAINNOVIA%20ART%20300%E7%9B%B4%E7%BA%BF%E7%94%B5%E6%9C%BA%E7%B3%BB%E7%BB%9F.pdf

The Innovia ART 300 has top design speed of 100 km/h, with configuration ranging between 2 carriage or 4 carriage or even 6 carriage long trains.

It is possible to run the train at 75 seconds interval.

The carrying capacity of the system is as mentioned in brochure...

2 car train at 75 seconds headway, 17,760 pphpd

4 car train at 75 seconds headway, 35,520 pphpd

6 car train at 75 seconds headway, 53,280 pphpd

Each carriage can carry between 134 and 185 passengers

Aiseh too bad, no English version ?

Aiseh too bad, no English version ?

No. However, I can translate some.

Innovia ART 300 offered in linear motor propulsion, as well as normal rotary propulsion.

Similarities in both versions are...

Offered in train length from 1 carriage to 6 carriages.

End car is 16.865 m long, while middle car is 16.7 m long. Width is the same as ART 200, at 2.65 m.

Both are powered by 750 V DC third rail or fourth rail.

The linear motor version able to negotiate curve with radius of 70 m, while the normal rotary propulsion can negotiate curve with radius of 100 m.

Gradient for LIM version, 6 %, while the regular version, 4 %.

Each car has 32 seats.

Signalling system, Bombardier's Cityflo 650.

Upon comparison, the ART 300 has same width. However, it is lighter than the ART 200.

ART 200 for Vancouver, each carriage weighs about 22,300 kg, while the ART 300............lighter at 20,500 kg for each carriage.

hey thanks !

hey thanks !

At 53,280 pphpd for 6 carriage version with 75 seconds interval operation, it's definitely promising, if we can get this :lol:

Capacity per carriage.

At 4 persons per sq metre, each carriage can carry 134 passengers.

At 6 persons per sq metre, each carriage can carry 185 passengers.

So, if 6 carriage per train, we can look at between 804 passengers to 1110 passengers.

And this figure still do not include higher passenger density, which is 8 persons per sq metre.

At 53,280 pphpd for 6 carriage version with 75 seconds interval operation, it's definitely promising, if we can get this :lol:

Capacity per carriage.

At 4 persons per sq metre, each carriage can carry 134 passengers.

At 6 persons per sq metre, each carriage can carry 185 passengers.

So, if 6 carriage per train, we can look at between 804 passengers to 1110 passengers.

And this figure still do not include higher passenger density, which is 8 persons per sq metre.

The only possible way they can sell this is for the AG Line fleet expansion project. You can definitely rule out the LIM part, and anything so close in the market to the current rolling stocks used are those DLR trains.

Prasarana provides smoother LRT rides with MyRapid Card
Thursday December 15, 2011
http://thestar.com.my/metro/story.asp?file=/2011/12/15/central/10063902&sec=central

SYARIKAT Prasarana Negara Berhad (Prasarana), operator of Klang Valley’s LRT service, is advising commuters to opt for its MyRapid cards to travel on the LRT trains for their own convenience and cut traveling time.

“Based on my observation, I noticed that the commuters prefer to purchase single journey tokens rather than buying our MyRapid cards.

“I would strongly advise them to get the cards instead of the single journey tokensfor their own convenience,” said Prasarana rail division group director Khairani Mohamed.

Prasarana, which operates the Kelana Jaya and Ampang Line LRT services through its subsidiary RapidKL, had since last month implemented a new Auto Fare Collection (AFC) integrated ticketing system, which allows commuters to use a single ticket despite changing lines.

Under the new AFC system, the Masjid Jamek LRT station is now a fully-integrated station; providing a convenient transfer for commuters to the other line with a single token from any station of origin.

“So, if you are using a single journey token, you will only need one token for entire journey even when you need to switch lines.

“However, I would personally recommend using the MyRapid cards. It is more convenient in the long run,” said Khairani.

He added that more than 40,000 MyRapid cards had been sold to-date.

He added: “Overall, I would say that the transition was fine. But, it could have been much better. I think a lot of travel time was lost because of the queues at our ticket vending machines (TVMs). A lot of people chose to use the single journey tokens.

“I feel it will be more practical for them to use our MyRapid Cards instead,” said Khairani, who has been moving from station to station to oversee the transition exercise.

“We have 256 TVMs placed around the LRT network at all our stations. But, you must also remember that every day, we have a ridership of almost 350,000 people for the two LRT lines,” he said.

He added that Prasarana had stationed its sales team at key LRT stations to sell the AFC MyRapid Cards at a promotion price of RM10 which include a stored value of RM8.

The team will also assist commuters in using the TVMs and for directional assistance.

According to Khairani, with the MyRapid cards, commuters would have the alternative of re-loading their cards at the LRT counters or the TVMs when there are shorter queues.

“In the future, commuters can also re-load their cards online. We are targeting this in the first quarter of 2012, which will also see the integration of the AFC with the KL Monorail,” he said, adding that the cards would be extended to RapidKL bus services by the second quarter of 2012.

Lots of people refused to buy because they feel like goverment songlap their RM2...haha...

n many already have TnG card...so why bother buy myrapid card :lol:

Lots of people refused to buy because they feel like goverment songlap their RM2...haha...

haiyo....previously t n g lg mahal.only recently we can get free tng if buy petrol la,if use highway la.i used to buy tng card at price rm25, card price is rm10!

I think people will buy myrapid card if given discounted price for using it..
TnG and Standard ticket will be charged normal price instead..

I think people will buy myrapid card if given discounted price for using it..
TnG and Standard ticket will be charged normal price instead..

if i'm not mistaken myrapid card user will get discount after all system integrated... :)

Signboards in Masjid Jamek interchange

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http://i.imgur.com/5JO9K.jpg

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no more station's code?

no more station's code?

There is, at the entrance of the station.

but why they dont show in those signboard?
seems that the ampang line become ampang and sri petaling line again..

but why they dont show in those signboard?
seems that the ampang line become ampang and sri petaling line again..

Station code, show show only ?

from Singapore...kinda scary....
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=86696222#post86696222
Here is an article on TODAY.

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Emergency door release not working ?

^^ Older lines here don't have emergency door release handles. The window was broken to let in more air as some people had trouble breathing. Kelana Jaya Line overcomes this with slits on top that can be opened in times of emergency. Less aesthetically pleasing, but has to be practical too. I think the 1st Gen MK II trains also encountered similar problems last time when they were stuck in the tunnels during a power outage in KL. Doors were forced open or something?

^^ Older lines here don't have emergency door release handles. The window was broken to let in more air as some people had trouble breathing. Kelana Jaya Line overcomes this with slits on top that can be opened in times of emergency. Less aesthetically pleasing, but has to be practical too. I think the 1st Gen MK II trains also encountered similar problems last time when they were stuck in the tunnels during a power outage in KL. Doors were forced open or something?

If I remembered correctly, doors were forced open and they walked back to the nearest station as there was no personnel sent to the trapped passengers (there were still PUTRA back then). But still, they had doors release and no passengers or trains were (seriously) injured or maimed.

The 1st Gen Mark II did not have the emergency ventilation windows, and so are the Ampang Line and monorail rolling stocks. ERL I don't know. Komuters have those but in KTMB's ever so infinite wisdom, they have it bolted shut. Go figure. :P

ERL does not have them either. I think I remember that much about the train, haha. The irony here is that the MRT has a driver. At least the then PUTRA one had no driver and passengers managed to self-evacuate. Passengers had to stay in the MRT 78 minutes before they were evacuated.

Manila MRT purple line air cond breaks down on daily basis and the small tingkap on top of the window certainly helps a lot.

Hang Tuah LRT-Monorail Integrated Station

Opening 2012
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Subang Jaya LRT + KTM station

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t224/Nissan_FUGA/20111224_141638.jpg

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t224/Nissan_FUGA/20111224_141644.jpg

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t224/Nissan_FUGA/20111224_141650-1.jpg

Subang Jaya KTM station

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/9080/32674467.jpg
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQXfsf606_1d3MSIACVHi9DfFOaUjri33aSKc1g6eEo7k4Zbnc-DGjwLsJa4A
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/54423890.jpg
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/54423890

looks like they will be having separate entrances for ktm and lrt, something like kl sentral.

is they demolish the existing ktm station?

^^

Most likely, as they are going built common concourse for the LRT and KTM.

Great impression....

Too bad they are not adding any additional platforms for the ktm komuter station.

It would be really cool if they did add some platform, cause then we could expect them to introduce a kind of limited stop service or special service when they reopen the subang branch line.

Subang Jaya LRT + KTM station

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t224/Nissan_FUGA/20111224_141638.jpg


LRT Extension station model
http://www.lrtextension.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=186&Itemid=150&lang=en

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Only I hope they can make new stations with futuristic design and covered with glasses and tiles for elegance and for easy cleaning..

not paint type like those existing stations...
learn from Singapore and Bangkok....

Only I hope they can make new stations with futuristic design and covered with glasses and tiles for elegance and for easy cleaning..

not paint type like those existing stations...
learn from Singapore and Bangkok....

Couldn't agree more! :lol:

New millennium - glassy cladding, easy cleaning, futuristic design. Say goodbye to classic and moody design, paint on concrete walls, and fungus-like stains...:ohno:

Couldn't agree more! :lol:

New millennium - glassy cladding, easy cleaning, futuristic design. Say goodbye to classic and moody design, paint on concrete walls, and fungus-like stains...:ohno:

yes correct...

It would be better for LRT stations to be fitted with solar panel.

Couldn't agree more! :lol:

New millennium - glassy cladding, easy cleaning, futuristic design. Say goodbye to classic and moody design, paint on concrete walls, and fungus-like stains...:ohno:

Strange...

from looking at the artistic impression I had the impression
that it would be plain paint on concrete wall.

Rail Transports in Golden Tringle

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/585/ukjfm.jpg

KLCC LRT station (underground)
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4034/4560217465_1f25ab44f6_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/inspirethereal/4560217465/)
Entrance to KLCC LRT Station (http://www.flickr.com/photos/inspirethereal/4560217465/) by ezra wolfe (http://www.flickr.com/people/inspirethereal/), on Flickr
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2527/3968042054_bb9d2f733a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lucas77/3968042054/)
KL142 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lucas77/3968042054/) by Lucas.Wall (http://www.flickr.com/people/lucas77/), on Flickr

Kg Baru LRT station (underground)
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2263/2445121928_9565e1d8c4_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sengkeat/2445121928/)
Tunnel 隧道 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sengkeat/2445121928/) by sengkeat love bumi (http://www.flickr.com/people/sengkeat/), on Flickr

Dang Wangi LRT station (underground)
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4064/4445300470_7f1dd6a990_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86974734@N00/4445300470/)
Dang Wangi LRT station (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86974734@N00/4445300470/) by netaholic13 (http://www.flickr.com/people/86974734@N00/), on Flickr
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3170/2287345753_42e36939f3_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/xybo/2287345753/)
DSC07492 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/xybo/2287345753/) by xybo (http://www.flickr.com/people/xybo/), on Flickr

Raja Chulan Monorail station
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5303/5623593684_57fda41932_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/25332637@N00/5623593684/)
KL Monorail (http://www.flickr.com/photos/25332637@N00/5623593684/) by fatserbjensen (http://www.flickr.com/people/25332637@N00/), on Flickr
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5064/5623593394_ed9432136d_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/25332637@N00/5623593394/)
Raja Chulan (http://www.flickr.com/photos/25332637@N00/5623593394/) by fatserbjensen (http://www.flickr.com/people/25332637@N00/), on Flickr

Upgrade of Hang Tuah station (27/12/2011)

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what a unfair government, everything at west coasr is modern ,fast, elegant, high tech n bla3...we here at east coast still stuck at 50s..the train take 15 hrs usually more than that, road but no highway...

what a unfair government, everything at west coasr is modern ,fast, elegant, high tech n bla3...we here at east coast still stuck at 50s..the train take 15 hrs usually more than that, road but no highway...

I only recognised Greater KL as the only developed city and liveable city in this country...:)

what a unfair government, everything at west coasr is modern ,fast, elegant, high tech n bla3...we here at east coast still stuck at 50s..the train take 15 hrs usually more than that, road but no highway...

i can feel ur misery... im hoping that they will announce a double tracking project for east coast side.

I only recognised Greater KL as the only developed city and liveable city in this country...:)

In order to become a developed nation the whole country needs to get infrastructure upgraded. Cities/towns/rural areas outside KL should at least get the very basic efficient transport system like regular buses.

In order to become a developed nation the whole country needs to get infrastructure upgraded. Cities/towns/rural areas outside KL should at least get the very basic efficient transport system like regular buses.

Busses already there but in deplorable conditions...

frequency very terrible..

Wish Malaysia has ANGKOT or TUK2 to solve public transportation woes..
:)

KLANG VALLEY + KUALA LUMPUR=GREATER KUALA LUMPUR.

THE GARDEN CITY OF LIGHTS.....

KJL depot 2007

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e130/whataprob/Rail/PUTRADepot2007.jpg
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KJL depot 2010

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e130/whataprob/Rail/PUTRADepot2010.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e130/whataprob/Rail/PUTRADepot2010.jpg

KJL extension interface - guess they had always planned a provision for extension? Note the gaps in the reaction rails.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e130/whataprob/Rail/KJLExtensioninterface.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e130/whataprob/Rail/KJLExtensioninterface.jpg

^^ However, it seems that they can only fit in one track on the existing viaduct. Anyone can offer more insight as to how they will branch off?

^^ However, it seems that they can only fit in one track on the existing viaduct. Anyone can offer more insight as to how they will branch off?


They will close one part of the track and do the necessary adjustments, construction work etc. , while rerouting trains to go through the unclosed one. Once this is done, they will then reopen the track section for train traffic and close the the other end, and do the necessary expansion works.

Since there are switches just before Kelana Jaya station and at the depot itself. This should not be much of a problem and it would not disrupt peak hour headway times between train sets. Since, on normal operation trains don't have to frequently go through and fro the depot.

I wonder if rapidkl releases plans of the depot layout. I am kinda curious about their additional staging area.

http://www.myrapid.com.my/sites/default/files/news__events/announcements/2011/newyears_eve_annoucement.jpg

can some one explain to me the rationale of closing the "other stations" earlier than the stations in the centre of the city.

I don't get it why keep the inner city stations open when the outer "other stations" are closed. Unless of course, "station closing time" actually means the time when passengers are no longer allowed to purchase any more tickets or enter the paid area but are still allowed to go through and exit the station. Just like in shopping malls where they may close early but cinemas are still running so there are some people floating around in the malls.

^^ The later is correct. Close mean you are still allowed to exit but not to buy anymore tickets/tokens and enter.

I was there just now.

Indeed, closed means the station is only open for exit, but not entry to the line.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7141/6610261887_8c11c429e7_z.jpg

^^
special lane for OKU, baggage & the red circle is ??

^^
special lane for OKU, baggage & the red circle is ??

http://www.myrapid.com.my/news-events/media-releases/2011/red-token-senior-citizens-traveling-lrt-january-1

^^
the red circle is ??

maybe for the red token users - sr citizens.

^^Good move, should have tactile there too..:cheers:

http://www.kliaekspres.com/erlsb/Portals/0/Images/KLIA2/ERL-KLIA2%20Leaflet.pdf

Public display for the KLIA Express Extension to KLIA2

This extension project will require 15½ months
to complete. The target completion date is
31st October 2012.

Images of Gombak station......
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^^ Great progress..I assume that the Park n Ride will be operational by mid quarter of this year..Hopefully the parking rate going to be cheap enough..Maybe rm1 for first hour and additional rm0.50 for subsequent hour :lol:

Token khas LRT sempena Perlawanan Sumbangsih

KUALA LUMPUR 6 Jan. — Pengusaha perkhidmatan transit aliran ringan (LRT) RapidKL, Syarikat Prasarana Negara Berhad (Prasarana) akan mengeluarkan semula token khas bagi perjalanan pergi balik sempena perlawanan Sumbangsih di Stadium Nasional Bukit Jalil esok.

Menjangkakan kebanjiran kira-kira 30,000 peminat sukan bola sepak bagi menyaksikan perlawanan pembuka tirai Liga Super itu antara juara liga, Kelantan dan juara Piala Malaysia, Negeri Sembilan di stesen Bukit Jalil, Prasarana mengambil langkah menambah bilangan pekerja untuk menguruskan operasinya.

Pengarah Kumpulan Prasarana bagi Rel, Khairani Mohamed berkata token khas itu akan dijual di semua stesen LRT esok.

"Mereka yang mendapatkannya di mesin dinasihatkan membeli token khas agar tidak perlu beratur sekali lagi untuk perjalanan pulang,” katanya dalam satu kenyataan hari ini.

Beliau turut menasihati peminat dari Lembah Klang agar membeli token khas dan memilih destinasi terakhir perjalanan mereka tanpa mengira sama ada mereka menaiki LRT ke Ampang atau Kelana Jaya.

Dia juga menggalakkan penumpang menggunakan kad MyRapid yang akan lebih memudahkan perjalanan untuk semua.

"Berdasarkan pengalaman, kami boleh menjangkakan kehadiran besar-besaran bagi menyaksikan perlawanan itu. Jadi kepada mereka yang belum membeli kad MyRapid, sila berbuat demikian sekarang dan nikmati perlawanan Sabtu ini tanpa perlu bersusah-payah,” katanya. — BERNAMA

from Utusan online

http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2012/1/7/business/10217992&sec=business



“This interchange plans include providing an exclusive access to i-Residence as well as from both KL and Klang,” explains Ong.

Under the light rail transit (LRT) blueprint, the extension of the LRT system from Kelana Jaya to Klang will also serve i-City.

So it is very certain that the proposed LRT3 will serve i-City, and corridor north of existing KTM line.

You can imagine it passes Glenmarie, Bukit Jelutong, then i-City, then southwards to Klang city centre.

http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2012/1/7/business/10217992&sec=business



So it is very certain that the proposed LRT3 will serve i-City, and corridor north of existing KTM line.

You can imagine it passes Glenmarie, Bukit Jelutong, then i-City, then southwards to Klang city centre.yep, that's the plan since a long time ago.

The Federal Highway BRT will be the first attempt at rapid transit along the more northern corridor, but at the very least they should start with a direct bus from Klang to Kelana Jaya through Shah Alam.

Cheers, m

yep, that's the plan since a long time ago.

The Federal Highway BRT will be the first attempt at rapid transit along the more northern corridor, but at the very least they should start with a direct bus from Klang to Kelana Jaya through Shah Alam.

Cheers, m

I can imagine that bus (Klang to Kelana Jaya, through Shah Alam) would be either a "U" bus or "E" bus.

Kelana Jaya station bus holding area should be expanded, as sometimes, the lane can get clogged up with 2 buses of the same route parked at the same time.

http://www.spad.gov.my/en/projects/pub-tra...ang-valley.html (http://www.spad.gov.my/en/projects/pub-trans-master-frame/regional-master-plan/draft-greater-kl-klang-valley.html)

http://i.imgur.com/9i1VA.jpg

A look of the capacity on existing and future, proposed rail lines of Klang Valley.

Looking into this data, as well as other metro systems in the world, for example, Paris.

Paris Metro line 1 (16 km long) is the most busiest line on Paris Metro network. It carries 725,000 passengers daily. And that's before the conversion of the line operator from driver operated to driverless operation. The trains are narrower than Ampang line, but a little longer than us.

For our Ampang line (44.7 km after extension), I believe the future capacity by design can easily be more than, say....400k or even 500k passengers a day if we get more trains (I believe we have 15 sets, with another 20 sets have to ordered for Kinrara and Puchong extension) and implement CBTC........and also, ceding Chan Sow Lin - Ampang section to future MRT 2.

Those KTMB Metro forecast numbers looks really poor. Even with the currently apalling service I think they hit almost 100k rides per day. But to have a headway of 5 mins plus integration with KJ Line and MRT1 yet they only expect 237k rides per day, doesnt really sound very metro to me.

http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2012/1/7/business/10217992&sec=business



So it is very certain that the proposed LRT3 will serve i-City, and corridor north of existing KTM line.

You can imagine it passes Glenmarie, Bukit Jelutong, then i-City, then southwards to Klang city centre.

I hope they will consider a station at seksyen 13 since there is stadium, college (MSU & PTPL) plus hypermarket like Giant & tesco extra..

the Kelana Jaya line numbers are quite impressive - interesting that they will still be higher than 2 of the 3 MRT lines

really makes me wonder why they need to build a 4-carriage MRT when a 6-carriage "LRT" in Ampang style could do the job...Those KTMB Metro forecast numbers looks really poor. Even with the currently apalling service I think they hit almost 100k rides per day. But to have a headway of 5 mins plus integration with KJ Line and MRT1 yet they only expect 237k rides per day, doesnt really sound very metro to me.Komuter is not really "metro", even with 5 minute frequencies ... but that is more of a function of the distance between stations and the travel time as opposed to the trains or the frequencies.

Certainly, an upgrade KTMB will have lower ridership numbers as compared to a higher frequency MRT or LRT, but the line carrying capacity during the peak hours will be high enough to move enough people (above 10,000 passengers per hour per direction) to call it "rapid transit"

The public should be made to understand that the terms "MRT" and "LRT" represent service levels, not train types.

By the way, Ampang (STAR) is supposed to be LRT1 and Kelana Jaya (PUTRA) is LRT2. KL Monorail is LRT3 even though it doesn't meet "LRT" levels of ridership capacity (3100 pphpd now, 6400 with new trains) ... those numbers are actually comparable to BRT & modern trams (not rapid trams)

Cheers, m

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^^ the pictures is yours?? :ohno::ohno:

wow... didnt know that they already plan for LRT3.. anyone know the roughly route for LRT3?? and realistically when can we see the gov start to built it? :cheers:

wow... didnt know that they already plan for LRT3.. anyone know the roughly route for LRT3?? and realistically when can we see the gov start to built it? :cheers:LRT 3 can be expected to start planning around 2015, perhaps construction might start around 2025-2030.

LRT 3 would run from Kelana Jaya to Shah Alam & Klang, in a corridor north of the Federal Highway

Cheers, m

LRT 3 can be expected to start planning around 2015, perhaps construction might start around 2025-2030.

LRT 3 would run from Kelana Jaya to Shah Alam & Klang, in a corridor north of the Federal Highway

Cheers, m


What about South part of Shah Alam and Klang Kesas Highway? :cheers:

LRT 3 can be expected to start planning around 2015, perhaps construction might start around 2025-2030.

LRT 3 would run from Kelana Jaya to Shah Alam & Klang, in a corridor north of the Federal Highway

Cheers, m

So from 2020 and beyond can we say that KL will be a rail based city?? especially with all the propose new mrt line/lrt extension and etc. Though i believe they shld already plan all this shits during early 2000 and if the gov did our lives will not be so miserables like now.. :bash:

So from 2020 and beyond can we say that KL will be a rail based city?? especially with all the propose new mrt line/lrt extension and etc. Though i believe they shld already plan all this shits during early 2000 and if the gov did our lives will not be so miserables like now.. :bash:I would say yes, but in 2030...not 2020.

Cheers, m

What about South part of Shah Alam and Klang Kesas Highway? :cheers:That area is largely industrial with very little of the dense commercial & residential development that will actually support an MRT or LRT development.

It's actually pretty hard to even justify the LRT through the north side of Shah Alam ... even with future development, a BRT system or tram network would probably be more than enough to move people through Shah Alam.

The best option for the south side (if the development were there) would be to extend the Ampang LRT from Putra Heights through the south side of Shah Alam to the Shah Alam City Centre ... actually, I believe that was the plan in the Selangor Structure plan - extend both the LRT lines to meet at Shah Alam City Centre.

Cheers, m

That area is largely industrial with very little of the dense commercial & residential development that will actually support an MRT or LRT development.

It's actually pretty hard to even justify the LRT through the north side of Shah Alam ... even with future development, a BRT system or tram network would probably be more than enough to move people through Shah Alam.

The best option for the south side (if the development were there) would be to extend the Ampang LRT from Putra Heights through the south side of Shah Alam to the Shah Alam City Centre ... actually, I believe that was the plan in the Selangor Structure plan - extend both the LRT lines to meet at Shah Alam City Centre.

Cheers, m

How about BRT or tram lines going radial feeding into the Shah Alam Komuter Station, functioning more like a Regional Station. Having LRT would make the journey time too long already what with the number of stops in between Shah Alam and KL.

It would be better to introduce limited stop Komuter on KL-Klang corridor....then like what you mention, tram / BRT lines from KTM station (Shah Alam or Batu Tiga).

The tram platform should be built next to KTM Komuter platform for seamless transfer.

That area is largely industrial with very little of the dense commercial & residential development that will actually support an MRT or LRT development.

It's actually pretty hard to even justify the LRT through the north side of Shah Alam ... even with future development, a BRT system or tram network would probably be more than enough to move people through Shah Alam.

The best option for the south side (if the development were there) would be to extend the Ampang LRT from Putra Heights through the south side of Shah Alam to the Shah Alam City Centre ... actually, I believe that was the plan in the Selangor Structure plan - extend both the LRT lines to meet at Shah Alam City Centre.

Cheers, m

Ampang line would be part of MRT2..if they extented the monorail jln klang lama extension to meet up AGL which also meet KJL at putra height then go on to meet LRT3 at shah alam..

Can the little guy actually handle it?..i see lots of people would be riding it

It would be better to introduce limited stop Komuter on KL-Klang corridor....then like what you mention, tram / BRT lines from KTM station (Shah Alam or Batu Tiga).

The tram platform should be built next to KTM Komuter platform for seamless transfer.

Yes, like last time they used to have the KL-Klang shuttle thingy, not sure now still have or not.

Hopefully going forward at the very least, KTM will also upgrade their platform side Passenger Information System, the current one doesnt show much info except destination and time of departure. Don't even have to do much, just put "limited service" or something next to the train destination at those LED displays.

How about BRT or tram lines going radial feeding into the Shah Alam Komuter Station, functioning more like a Regional Station. Having LRT would make the journey time too long already what with the number of stops in between Shah Alam and KL.
I agree that this might be a better use of money. With the upgrades to the Komuter line, I don't see the sense in creating a parallel line other than it might be more accessible for those along its route. That could lead to excess capacity on Komuter, if I dare say so. A feeder network to the Komuter might be better, such as a north-south link from Shah Alam Komuter station, which would be the central station along that route. Spurs and branches could serve different precincts as Bukhrin has mentioned.

^^^
Putting the cargo line along with KL Kommuter, track capacity will be filled up soon!

How about BRT or tram lines going radial feeding into the Shah Alam Komuter Station, functioning more like a Regional Station. Having LRT would make the journey time too long already what with the number of stops in between Shah Alam and KL.TRANSIT proposed a BRT line running in a two-way loop through north and south Shah Alam, connecting the main business and government centres with public transport (KTM Komuter and an LRT line extended to the Shah Alam stadium).

The thing is that the LRT is just being built as a line drawn on a map. In order to be successful, an LRT/MRT has to provide effective local services in an urban area, with longer distance services in suburban areas.

This is typically represented by station spacing - approximately 1km between stations in urban areas, around 2 km between stations in less urban areas.

The challenge in dealing with places like Subang Jaya and Shah Alam is that these areas have the potential to become more urbanized - Subang Jaya is a 30 year old suburban area that is becoming urbanized. Shah Alam is around 50 years old but less urbanized than Subang Jaya - but the development is happening now.

So the question for Shah Alam is, should the LRT link Shah Alam to KL & Klang? Or should the LRT be designed to service Shah Alam as the "centre" with Klang and Petaling Jaya as the "suburban" areas?

Because while Shah Alam is the capital of Selangor, it is not really an urban area and Klang is far more urban.

That is why TRANSIT has proposed that the Kelana Jaya LRT be extended to Shah Alam stadium with a series of Bus Rapid transit (and ideally, tram links) further west to Shah Alam & Klang.

Cheers, m

So the question for Shah Alam is, should the LRT link Shah Alam to KL & Klang? Or should the LRT be designed to service Shah Alam as the "centre" with Klang and Petaling Jaya as the "suburban" areas?

Cheers, m

This idea is not bad.. So we can commute around places like Klang Shah Alam and PJ..

TRANSIT proposed a BRT line running in a two-way loop through north and south Shah Alam, connecting the main business and government centres with public transport (KTM Komuter and an LRT line extended to the Shah Alam stadium).
That's a good proposal to me.

That is why TRANSIT has proposed that the Kelana Jaya LRT be extended to Shah Alam stadium with a series of Bus Rapid transit (and ideally, tram links) further west to Shah Alam & Klang.
I like this one too. I guess it would help even out the loads if there was a fork at that end of the line, one going to Putra Heights and the other to Shah Alam Stadium. Perhaps then the capacity along the existing stretch wouldn't be so tight as when the Subang extension opens.

That's a good proposal to me.


I like this one too. I guess it would help even out the loads if there was a fork at that end of the line, one going to Putra Heights and the other to Shah Alam Stadium. Perhaps then the capacity along the existing stretch wouldn't be so tight as when the Subang extension opens.well, we're not that keen on the extension to Putra Heights.

We would rather see Subang Jaya, Batu Tiga and then Shah Alam Stadium - simply because that would give us the KTM Komuter connection.

The issue with the extension into USJ and down to Putra Heights is the same as we have always had - there are no data provided to justify the extension into USJ, or the interchange at Putra Heights.

Cheers, m

It seems to me, Putra Heights extension is more about "property development" ha ha.

Oh ya!I could not think of a better reason for it!All the bijak pandai people doing the planning ha!The stadium is the best option!Open parking lot is a bonus.

From the Shah Alam Stadium they could extend the LRT/KTM or whatever transit options into place like Puncak Alam,Kota Kemuning and if possible up until Kuala Selangor.....so many people live in these area not to mention the thousands of UiTM students..just look at the traffic on the Guthrie Highway and Jalan batu Arang.

So very true!

well, we're not that keen on the extension to Putra Heights.

We would rather see Subang Jaya, Batu Tiga and then Shah Alam Stadium - simply because that would give us the KTM Komuter connection.

The issue with the extension into USJ and down to Putra Heights is the same as we have always had - there are no data provided to justify the extension into USJ, or the interchange at Putra Heights.

Cheers, m
I think the main aim for the extension was always to serve USJ and provide an alternative means to travel to Subang (kinda always hated having to go all the way to KL Sentral from Taman Jaya just to access Subang area). Putra Heights I guess is because, as others have mentioned, of property development and also just random cause the Sri Petaling line will go there and provide another interchange. Perhaps they view it as correcting previous mistakes by building an integrated interchange right from the start. :lol:

From the Shah Alam Stadium they could extend the LRT/KTM or whatever transit options into place like Puncak Alam,Kota Kemuning and if possible up until Kuala Selangor.....so many people live in these area not to mention the thousands of UiTM students..just look at the traffic on the Guthrie Highway and Jalan batu Arang.A long time ago I was talking about extending the LRT to the edge of Shah Alam. Then, use bus rapid transit and rapid tram to extend rail service deeper into the low density neighbourhoods in Shah Alam, Kota Kemuning, Puncak Alam, USJ, etc.

Ironically, we later found out that was the Selangor masterplan/local plan that was in 2007

For some reason, that plan was rejected by Prasarana in late 2008 after Idrose Mohamed took over with his plan for the Putra Heights interchange.

Finally, the do-very-little Selangor Gov't accepted the Prasarana plan as the new plan.

I suppose now they will bend over backwards for SPAD's new plan as well.

Cheers, m

I think the main aim for the extension was always to serve USJ and provide an alternative means to travel to Subang (kinda always hated having to go all the way to KL Sentral from Taman Jaya just to access Subang area). Putra Heights I guess is because, as others have mentioned, of property development and also just random cause the Sri Petaling line will go there and provide another interchange. Perhaps they view it as correcting previous mistakes by building an integrated interchange right from the start. :lol:i understand all of that, but as I said, they should be making the data public, not keeping things quiet and providing no information about how and where the plans are coming from.

Cheers, m

^^ I see, I interpretted it differently. I thought you had meant that there is no data whatsoever, not that they do have data and not made it public.

http://www.bernama.com.my/bernama/v6/newsgeneral.php?id=639903

The ticket machine will be able to accept new Malaysian coins by the middle of March.

http://spad.gov.my/en/projects/pub-trans-master-frame/overview/167.html
SPAD proposes increased railway connectivity
Monday January 16, 2012
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2012/1/16/nation/10245386&sec=nation#13267043438431&if_height=542

KUALA LUMPUR: The Land Public Transport Commission (SPAD) has included proposals to extend the city rail services as one of its urban rail development projects under the Land Public Transport Master Plan.

One proposal will see the extension of the KL Monorail services from its Tun Sambanthan station to Taman Gembira in Jalan Klang Lama, with the intention to improve accessibility to areas such as Bangsar and Mid Valley.

It is also aimed at alleviating the heavy traffic of commuters heading to KL Sentral from the south.

A plan for a third light rail transit (LRT) service is also among the proposals prepared by SPAD to connect Klang and Shah Alam with the Kelana Jaya line.

The link will allow city commuters to transfer between the LRT and KTM Komuter which focuses on long distance travel to the suburbs.

SPAD chairman Tan Sri Syed Hamid Albar said the proposals were to increase connectivity between the various rail public transport services, which would allow commuters to conveniently interchange between them.

He also said the public was welcomed to provide feedback to the plan, which included bus and taxi services as well.

SPAD was formulated in 2010 to manage policy planning and regulatory oversight for the GTP’s Urban Public Transport NKRA.

Some rail news updates around the Klang Valley - with pictures



Platform extension completed at Chow Kit Station, but not tiled yet (sorry no pics)
New entrance and ticketing hall for Bukit Bintang Monorail Station in progress (Lot 10 side)
KTMB AFC gates are being installed at some stations. With the end of April deadline getting closer, let's hope that the KTM AFC vendor will *ahem* managed to pull it on time.



Hang Tuah LRT/Monorail Station Integration and New Ticketing Hall

New ticketing hall
Escalators prepped for installation
CSO completed
Lifts installed
With gates already being installed at all monorail stations and the integration at Titiwangsa completed, seems that Prasarana's integration project will come to an end soon.


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Bandar Tasik Selatan New Ticketing Hall

New Ticketing Hall completed CSO moved upstairs. Station still work in progress. Escalators & Lifts not yet installed. Widening of walkway to ERL/KTMB

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KTM Bandar Tasik Selatan Station Upgrade

Upgrade of station roofing and platforms for 6 car trains. Seems like no other major upgrades in the pipeline. Komuter ticketing hall still a mess, hopefully come future integration, the LRT concourse can be expanded to the Komuter.


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Kuang station

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What is different structure between Rapid KL and KTM? I think both are GLC and why KTM was damn too slow, lack of progress? Are they lack of funds or mismanagement? :bash:

>>Bandar Tasik Selatan upgrade

based on the shown layout looks like RapidKL won't be doing any kind of seamless integration with ktm any time soon.

>>lack of funds or mismanagement?

may be both?

>>Bandar Tasik Selatan upgrade

based on the shown layout looks like RapidKL won't be doing any kind of seamless integration with ktm any time soon.

>>lack of funds or mismanagement?

may be both?

Indeed, I have not yet heard of any tender been released for the integration of the KTM and Prasarana AFC. Furthermore with both vendors working in silo and with very limited contact between them, don't be surprised if that particular integration will be one big headache.

Make you wonder why SPAD does little to drive and guide this project when this is clearly something expected of them.

For the physical integration, as the MRT is expected to share common concourse with the KTM Komuter, I think the latest we could expect integration with the existing lines should be whenever the MRT is completed.

Government should consider to investigate the feasibility of extending of our urban rail lines, particularly the northern ends of our LRT lines such as Sentul Timur and Gombak so that both lines meet each similar to what is being at the south such as Kelana Jaya and Sri Petaling being extended and meet at Putra Heights. This will form virtual loop, consisting of two LRT lines.

At the same time, KTM Komuter line at Batu Caves should be extended northwards to Selayang, then to Sungai Buloh or Kuang though admitted, such extension of KTM line north of Batu Caves will be challenging due to populated nature and densely built up area around Batu Caves and Selayang.

Government should consider to investigate the feasibility of extending of our urban rail lines, particularly the northern ends of our LRT lines such as Sentul Timur and Gombak so that both lines meet each similar to what is being at the south such as Kelana Jaya and Sri Petaling being extended and meet at Putra Heights. This will form virtual loop, consisting of two LRT lines.

^^I think Circle Line (phase 2) will connecting this two LRT station....if not Gombak station, maybe Sentul Timur will connect with any station within Setiawangsa and Wangsa Maju area...

Prasarana, UTHM collaborate to nurture rail industry professionals
Posted on January 31, 2012, Tuesday
http://www.theborneopost.com/2012/01/31/prasarana-uthm-collaborate-to-nurture-rail-industry-professionals/

KUALA LUMPUR: Syarikat Prasarana Negara Berhad (Prasarana) and Universiti Tun Hussein Onn Malaysia (UTHM) yesterday signed a memorandum of understanding (MoU) in an effort to create professionals in the rail industry and improve the quality of Malaysia’s public transportation system.

Prasarana group managing director Datuk Shahril Mokhtar said that under the MoU, UTHM would introduce a new Masters in Railway Engineering course this year where qualified staff of Prasarana’s rail division will have preference in gaining entry to the university.

“This we believe will open a new era in pursuance of excellence in education and further uplift the standard of Malaysia’s railway industry specifically, and public transportation in general,” he told reporters after the signing here.
Shahril inked the MoU for Prasarana while UTHM was represented by its vice-chancellor, Prof Datuk Dr Mohd Noh Dalimin.

Elaborating, Shahril said the strategic collaboration with institutions of higher learning was part of Prasarana’s initiatives towards enhancing the quality of its staff, describing them as the company’s key assets in the realisation of its Go Forward Plan (GFP) targets.

“Today also marked a new beginning in Prasarana’s emphasis on development of human capital and staff resourcefulness as we continue rigorous efforts to pursue the agenda of our GFP, which has entered its second year,” he said.

Shahril said that through the programme, Prasarana aimed to inculcate values like innovative thinking, operational excellence and enhanced efficiency among its staff. — Bernama

Government should consider to investigate the feasibility of extending of our urban rail lines, particularly the northern ends of our LRT lines such as Sentul Timur and Gombak so that both lines meet each similar to what is being at the south such as Kelana Jaya and Sri Petaling being extended and meet at Putra Heights. This will form virtual loop, consisting of two LRT lines.

At the same time, KTM Komuter line at Batu Caves should be extended northwards to Selayang, then to Sungai Buloh or Kuang though admitted, such extension of KTM line north of Batu Caves will be challenging due to populated nature and densely built up area around Batu Caves and Selayang.

Strongly agree on the linking of the two LRT lines to make a loop - the LRT 2 / Sri Petaling line should be extended from Sentul Timur and have stations at Tmn Koperasi Polis, Sri Gombak, Greenwood, Jln Gombak and eventually end at Terminal Putra.

However, linking the Komuter line from Bt Caves to Sg Buloh may not be possible due to built up and forest reserve / hills. Furthermore, MRT 3 is planned to serve Selayang and connected to MRT 1 at Sg Buloh, although we may need to wait until 2030 for it to be realized.

^^
komuter line from batu cave to sg buloh is indeed difficult. However there is a tnb power line just ahead of the batu cave terminus and along gombak river where the gov can use the land to extend the batu cave line towards the fringe of the kl, going along Karak highway, genting sempah and eventually towards bentong and mentakab, creating our east line railway. Such things would happen in 20 years i'd say. Villagers of Kg nakhoda sure dont like the noise either.

It seems Petaling Jaya is planning tram, as well as BRT in their development plan.

Taken from Selangor Times

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It seems Petaling Jaya is planning tram, as well as BRT in their development plan.

Taken from Selangor Times

http://i.imgur.com/4PRkk.jpginteresting...I should take a look at the report. Can it be found online?

The idea for BRT seems good, but that corridor is really "out of the way" and I don't know how they plan to build the median-lanes BRT on a Federal road (Subang Airport Road, Fed Rte 2).

At least they have a plan going somewhere. Better than nothing.

Cheers, m

From LRT Extension Open Day in Sunway Pyramid.

Ampang line will be fully automated in future, under the LRT extension.

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From LRT Extension Open Day in Sunway Pyramid.

Ampang line will be fully automated in future, under the LRT extension.

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Is it just me or is there a difference in time written in Bahasa and time written in English. 120s vs 180s How do they compute that?
While average speed 37km/j vs 36km/h

Perhaps, this is why KTMB's timetable is so hard to understand. Since it was probably written in this version of Bahasa.

Is it just me or is there a difference in time written in Bahasa and time written in English. 120s vs 180s How do they compute that?
While average speed 37km/j vs 36km/h

Perhaps, this is why KTMB's timetable is so hard to understand. Since it was probably written in this version of Bahasa.because people live life faster in Bahasa Malaysia...

Seriously, tho ... how does someone miss proofreading something like that?

~m!

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Well nothing special except the changed the lane and starting to build a connection lane and especially this:
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A good start!I want to see a lot more .Just keep it simple with as much daylight as possible,standardize it in such a way where the cost of building it can be kept in check.I see the same at Sentul Timur,Ampang,Chan Sow Lin,Sg Besi ,Kelana Jaya and many more.I know its expansive but in the long run it will pay it self.

Is it me ? I found RapidKL Ampang/Sri Petaling line extremely dull and not attractive at all. The inattractive trains, the poorly-lit stations with very dull feeling/poor design , boring announcements. Need to upgrade ALL stations and use better trains.

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Sometimes it reminds me of this particular system only that ampang line slightly cleaner and newer:lol:But it serves its intended purpose.

Is it me ? I found RapidKL Ampang/Sri Petaling line extremely dull and not attractive at all. The inattractive trains, the poorly-lit stations with very dull feeling/poor design , boring announcements. Need to upgrade ALL stations and use better trains.

haha. ampang line is more or less as boring as MRT system in manila :lol:

Is it me ? I found RapidKL Ampang/Sri Petaling line extremely dull and not attractive at all. The inattractive trains, the poorly-lit stations with very dull feeling/poor design , boring announcements. Need to upgrade ALL stations and use better trains.

For me boring = inconspicuous = well functioning service

I guess you have not been to Europe. If you see what kind of stations and trains we have to deal with here (not everywhere, but in many places) you will fall back in love with Ampang Line :lovethem:

Even new trains and stations are just built with the least possible amount of cash. Ampang line trains are smooth, quiet and functional. They have sufficient doors and a good acceleration. Air condition could be better, but it's ok.

I agree with you on station upgrades though. But they are making them OKU friendly with smaller upgrades anyway and that's all they need.

From all of the rail systems in Malaysia, Ampang line is the least one to worry about.

My question is just how they want to change the line to be 'fully automated'. I don't think it is technically possible to let the old trains operate without a driver. Or are they going to mix manual and automated trains on the tracks? That would be possible. In Germany we had that in Nuremberg on one of the lines for a couple of years.

My question is just how they want to change the line to be 'fully automated'. I don't think it is technically possible to let the old trains operate without a driver. Or are they going to mix manual and automated trains on the tracks? That would be possible. In Germany we had that in Nuremberg on one of the lines for a couple of years.

Look no further than the recent conversion of Paris Metro Line 1, from driver operated operation to automated operation.

It seems Petaling Jaya is planning tram, as well as BRT in their development plan.

Taken from Selangor Times

http://i.imgur.com/4PRkk.jpg

I guess the tram might cut in the divider especially in the suburbs. But it might be unsuitable to build there due to the narrow lanes. Especially when it comes to the traffic where they might break the laws. Anyways a tram system in Subang Airport, Bandar Utama and Damansara Utama is a right way to improve PJ's traffic system. BTW, since PJ is planning a tram system, there are chances it might implement in Klang, Shah Alam, Gombak and Kuala Lumpur, right.

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I guess you have not been to Europe. If you see what kind of stations and trains we have to deal with here (not everywhere, but in many places) you will fall back in love with Ampang Line :lovethem:

Even new trains and stations are just built with the least possible amount of cash. Ampang line trains are smooth, quiet and functional. They have sufficient doors and a good acceleration. Air condition could be better, but it's ok.

How true!:)

Have you guys tried the Brussels Metro? The condition of the stations and trains are much more in deplorable state than Ampang Line. Even in trains they have this plywood to cover damaged floor, just like how malaysian would love to tampal plywood in newly commisioned elevators..

For me boring = inconspicuous = well functioning service

I guess you have not been to Europe. If you see what kind of stations and trains we have to deal with here (not everywhere, but in many places) you will fall back in love with Ampang Line :lovethem:

Even new trains and stations are just built with the least possible amount of cash. Ampang line trains are smooth, quiet and functional. They have sufficient doors and a good acceleration. Air condition could be better, but it's ok.

I agree with you on station upgrades though. But they are making them OKU friendly with smaller upgrades anyway and that's all they need.

From all of the rail systems in Malaysia, Ampang line is the least one to worry about.



Agreed with u on this... even KTM inter-city train sometimes looks better compare with some trains in europe :lol:

But one thing for sure is that, their reliability and punctuality are something that we need to learn. :cheers:

New ticketing system for monorail coming in few days time.

Location : Pudu LRT station

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But one thing for sure is that, their reliability and punctuality are something that we need to learn. :cheers:[/QUOTE]

And thats the bottom line !I cannot remember how many times i miss trains while purchasing my tickets at the stations but i know damm well the next train is coming along soon:lol:Parking is another thing we can learn from them!
Dont really care what the train look like as long as they are clean and efficient.

Have you guys tried the Brussels Metro? The condition of the stations and trains are much more in deplorable state than Ampang Line. Even in trains they have this plywood to cover damaged floor, just like how malaysian would love to tampal plywood in newly commisioned elevators..

:lol:Its even more obvious if its closer to the french border!But they are reliable and some stations smoking is still allowed on the platforms:lol:

Haven't been to Brussels but been to many European countries.

Some of Paris metro lines are very old and trains look bad, but they look very functional with high frequency and near-perfect punctuality. Ampang Line..hmm , as a relatively new line I think its running far below its potential. Even seats are hard. Agree that its somewhat on par with Manila metro.

Ampang line capacity with get much higher with the implementation of CBTC (Communications-Based Train Control).

My question is just how they want to change the line to be 'fully automated'. I don't think it is technically possible to let the old trains operate without a driver. Or are they going to mix manual and automated trains on the tracks? That would be possible. In Germany we had that in Nuremberg on one of the lines for a couple of years.Perhaps they will implement automatic train operation, but the existing Ampang line trains will retain the drivers for safety purposes, while the new trains can operate under computer control, with controllers (like the DLR trains) for safety purposes.

Eventually, the old trains will be phased out and replaced. If we say that the line started operations in 1998, then we're almost at 15 years old, about halfway through the "lifetime" of a typical train.

Cheers, m

Malaysia plans US$9.9b sukuk for rail job
Published: 2012/02/15
http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIMES/articles/20120215122248/Article/index_html

Malaysia plans to raise as much as RM30 billion (US$9.9 billion) through an Islamic bond program to fund construction of a mass railway in the Southeast Asian nation’s capital, the project’s manager said.

Dana Infra Sdn Bhd, a finance ministry company created to fund infrastructure development, will sell ringgit-denominated Islamic notes, or sukuk, with maturities of as much as 65 years,

Azhar Abdul Hamid, chief executive officer of Mass Rapid Transit Corp., said in an interview late yesterday.

It will initially take a bridging loan of RM500 million from a consortium of banks to cover early building work, he said.


The sale of the bonds will help satisfy demand among insurers and banks for longer-maturity debt after companies in Malaysia issued a record RM75.6 billion of sukuk last year, with 88 per cent due in less than 10 years, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.

Other local firms may also need to raise funds as part of a government-backed US$444 billion plan to build railways, roads and power plants over the next decade.

“The Dana Infra program will allow investors, especially insurers, to extend their asset duration,” Michael Chang, who oversees US$1 billion as head of fixed income at MCIS Zurich Insurance Bhd. in Kuala Lumpur, said in an interview today.

“Demand for such bonds will be healthy because long-dated Islamic paper are rare.” - Bloomberg

alamak, pinjam lagi USD9.9 billions? i tot the budget for the project already set aside?

I heard from someone who had attended the talk about Ampang line during the Sunway Pyramid open day, that the level of automation on the Ampang line when the new signalling and line extension completed will see that drivers will only be retained for closing/opening the door, while the train operation automation level is far higher than what it is now.

alamak, pinjam lagi USD9.9 billions? i tot the budget for the project already set aside?

why pay now when you can borrow and pay up after 65 years. who knows what happen then, if your country is f*cked up, you can ask the debt to be forgiven...

The norm is for bonds/sukuk issued for infrastructure projects are usually spread for a very very long time. I'd be surprised if it is done any other way.

Dear all. Kindly be informed the Six-Car Komuter service for P.Klang sector will be available tomorrow . Thank you. [from ktm facebook page]

:cheers:Must be the best good news out of KTM for a long time:banana:Hopefully when its fully operational they can reduce the time it takes to travel from P Klang to KL vise-versa to just under 40 mins perhaps?With limited stops during peak rush hours.

Six-Car Komuter is ETS. Not the SCS.

They temporarily stop running the Six-Car Komuter on the 15th and 16th. Today is the return of the Six-Car Komuter service.

In another matter, today is the day of new monorail ticketing system, which will see Myrapid card introduced on monorail line.

why pay now when you can borrow and pay up after 65 years. who knows what happen then, if your country is f*cked up, you can ask the debt to be forgiven...

Greece' way. genius! :D

The norm is for bonds/sukuk issued for infrastructure projects are usually spread for a very very long time. I'd be surprised if it is done any other way.

but the budget for the project has been announced in parliament if i'm not mistaken. which means it's from the G's coffer. i might be wrong.

but the budget for the project has been announced in parliament if i'm not mistaken. which means it's from the G's coffer. i might be wrong.

Ha ha, that menara 100 tingkat was also included in the budget but then they say it's privately funded by a GLC. How is that ? Malaysian budget tabling is more like venue for chest thumping big ticket projects.

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OMG Are you serious (photos)?? :bash: :bash:

^^ creeepy.....junk monorail :bash:

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ini langsir bilik mandi i pun is far superior! :lol:

aiseh cannot blame 'made in china' because Apple Inc. punya products pun all made in china oso.

but if it is 'developed, designed and produced in china by chinese company', that's sure will be like this. :nuts:

kalau I pun takut naik tu sebab takut monorel tu jatoh .

ini langsir bilik mandi i pun is far superior! :lol:

aiseh cannot blame 'made in china' because Apple Inc. punya products pun all made in china oso.

but if it is 'developed, designed and produced in china by chinese company', that's sure will be like this. :nuts:

ahha u guy haven't see the inside!!
they got like 1meter long stick for control!!!

sudah serik dulu one time pakai china phone,. but our gomen,even after this, rapid busses, bluetiger still go buy it

New ticketing system on monorail line

Location: Bukit Bintang monorail station

http://i.imgur.com/iAaIC.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/APGwo.jpg

ahha u guy haven't see the inside!!
they got like 1meter long stick for control!!!

sudah serik dulu one time pakai china phone,. but our gomen,even after this, rapid busses, bluetiger still go buy it

MOney all going into Ali Rustam's pocket.

New ticketing system on monorail line

Location: Bukit Bintang monorail station

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What kind of station is this.. Shame on KL.

Worse than Bangkok station.

The new ticketing system is actually going backward...

They need to rebuild the Bukit Bintang Station.

Interesting. Why is the new system backward ? Especially for the KL monorail.

I don't see why the new ticketing system is backward.

Consider these, the new ticketing system can handle more passengers due to the design of the gates, and by next month once the station integration works in Hang Tuah and Titiwangsa stations, it will be possible for passengers to buy token from monorail station to anywhere on RapidKL rail network including LRT lines.

In the past, there were no ticket vending machines, so commuters had to queue to buy tickets, problem that made worse when the station is so small.

I would say the next step is retrofitting those stations so that it can be used by commuters with disability.

MyRapid card might be expanded to include MRT, as well as KTM Komuter

http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/2012/02/12/cheaper-transit-with-myrapid-card/


Prasarana chief Zulkifli Mohd Yusoff – who was also present- echoed this sentiment, adding that public transport users here could still use Touch ‘n Go to get around on RapidKL’s routes.

“Touch ‘n Go will still be there. We will still give the public the choice, because some people have Touch ‘n Go for the highways, and they can use it for public transport.”

“We want to be self-sufficient…We want to have a better control of our products and services. Having our own card will give us that advantage, (with us) not relying on another company or another system,” he said.

Currently available for use on the Ampang and Kelana Jaya RapidKL lines, the card would also be extended to the KL Monorail.

Prasarana, Zulkifli added, was also in talks with My Rapid Transit’s (MRT) project owners – MRT Corp- to integrate the MyRapid card system there.

Using the MyRapid card for Keretapi Tanah Melayu’s (KTM) Komuter, he said, was also “in the pipeline”.

Interesting. Why is the new system backward ? Especially for the KL monorail.
Lol, its called over-reaction. Probably just saw the wooden planks where the old contact points for the previous ticketing system used to be and called it backwards. I do agree though that the shops within the paid area make the station look atrocious, not to mention those misfitting wooden doors. A bit of maintenance here and there would help for sure.

Go and try it and figure it out urself dude !

The old ticketing machines doesnt take notes and always break down.

Now it has been replaced with a new one, but it doesnt solve the previous problems. It doesnt take notes and it doesnt take coins as well. Worse now these new machines is even more "high-tech" with Zoom-in map and more difficult to operate.

Last time, you only take 1 minute to buy ticket on machine. Now it will take 3 minutes for 1 person to figure out how to use it. Many people then have to queue up for the machines.

So a lot of peoples, especially those foreigners gave it up and have to back to queue to purchase tickets. I really pity those folks.

You think many peoples are tech-savvy...go there check it out ur own ....and see how long u have wait to buy the ticket now..

FYI, the smart staffs at the counter wont let u to buy the ticket now....they will direct u to the machines and queue there forever!

I will advise u guys to bring along a Touch'n Go ...just in case u lose patience.

^^ I might be wrong but i think i know why the machine did not accept notes or coin. Normally after you press/touch the destination that you want to go normally the next page will show number of ticket/coin that you want to buy. Normally, people will straight away put/force in the money to the slot without pressing the OK button because they only want to buy a ticket/coin. I have seen a lot of people do that. Yes I do agree that most people are not tech-savvy but still why can't other people who knows how to use and give some help to those who needs it.

Now it has been replaced with a new one, but it doesnt solve the previous problems. It doesnt take notes and it doesnt take coins as well. Worse now these new machines is even more "high-tech" with Zoom-in map and more difficult to operate.


About the zoom-in map, I don't find it hard to use. This arrangement is very similar to Shanghai Metro or Guangzhou Metro ticket vending machine, of which you also need to zoom-in the map. The Singapore MRT ticket vending machine also works in similar manner, but without the zoom-in part.

My problems with the ticketing machine is that it has no reload facility for Touch n Go and sometimes it cannot accept coins, and you have to insert the coin for another time (after you touch "Proceed Payment".

Other than that, I don't see any issues with the zoom-in map, because this is essentially the same method used in Shanghai or Guangzhou or Beijing.

Perhaps, RapidKL should have educate people in the first place, using Youtube (as done by Singapore LTA) as well as having more station staffs to assist people.

Once the people is familiar with the new ticket vending machine, a person should normally take only 30 to 45 seconds to buy a token. I do agree there are many people who are still unfamiliar with the machine. However, at the same time, our ticket vending machine is no different from those employed in China and also Spain (where this machine came from). 1 suggestion that I think would help is that adding three touchscreen buttons such as "Kelana Jaya line", "Ampang line" and "Monorail line", so people will not need to zoom the map.

So far, the number of TVMs are as following.

KL Sentral Monorail = 3

Bukit Bintang = 2 (They should increase it to at least 4 or 5), because during peak hour, the queue was very bad.

Its just that we are not used to the new system just yet... agree that more awareness should be done. They shld placed more instruction on how to use TVM near it.

Go and try it and figure it out urself dude !

The old ticketing machines doesnt take notes and always break down.

Now it has been replaced with a new one, but it doesnt solve the previous problems. It doesnt take notes and it doesnt take coins as well. Worse now these new machines is even more "high-tech" with Zoom-in map and more difficult to operate.



The old machine only have to deal with around 25 stations. After integration you'd have another 20+stations for the Ampang line and 10+ for the monorail + extension you'd have another 26 stations and the 40-odd stations for the KTM Komuter and on top of that another 30 for the MRT Line 1.

From the old system.

Ampang line = TVM needs you to know the exact fare for the station you are going to and select the ticket price
KJ line = List the stations in travel sequence on the screen and you have to hunt the station name there. Probably would be a nightmare if you have to go through a list of all the stations in the Klang Valley
KTM Komuter = List all the stations alphabetically. Same point as the KJ line.

I think they did pretty adequate for the new system, if you really crave hassle-free travelling buy a card, same advice you will hear everywhere, in London or in Singapore.

Lol, its called over-reaction. Probably just saw the wooden planks where the old contact points for the previous ticketing system used to be and called it backwards. I do agree though that the shops within the paid area make the station look atrocious, not to mention those misfitting wooden doors. A bit of maintenance here and there would help for sure.

He he, if there is one thing that needs to be replaced with the monorail stations are the canvas roof. Sure they look 'modern', but they don't exactly block the heat from the sun and the all around advertisements prevent wind from blowing into the platform.

The answer to avoiding TVMs in general are getting yourself a stored value card. I guess KL commuters still don't have that concept, though the Rapid Card is a good start with the introduction of reduced fares in time to come.

Yes, the lack of wind at the platform is uncomfortable. Perhaps they could install fans? The membrane roof does trap heat a lot, even if it is light coloured. They would need to find a solution to that as I can imagine, it would not be easy to change. A steel roof might be a good option, or otherwise, install some sort of misting device atop the membrane roof to keep temperatures down.

The answer to avoiding TVMs in general are getting yourself a stored value card. I guess KL commuters still don't have that concept, though the Rapid Card is a good start with the introduction of reduced fares in time to come.

Yes, the lack of wind at the platform is uncomfortable. Perhaps they could install fans? The membrane roof does trap heat a lot, even if it is light coloured. They would need to find a solution to that as I can imagine, it would not be easy to change. A steel roof might be a good option, or otherwise, install some sort of misting device atop the membrane roof to keep temperatures down.

they should convert the station into an air-cond box. it would help everybody. if gov got money, convert into an artful air-cond box. sure it's expensive, but aesthetics/usability pays in the long run..

but of course, the better way is to do it right from day 1. now you have the pain to enlarge the station, install lifts/escalator etc....

You think many peoples are tech-savvy...go there check it out ur own ....and see how long u have wait to buy the ticket now..

FYI, the smart staffs at the counter wont let u to buy the ticket now....they will direct u to the machines and queue there forever!

I will advise u guys to bring along a Touch'n Go ...just in case u lose patience.

Oo.. So only Monorail TVM is backward?? LRT is still ok? :nuts:
I said this because, it was perfectly fine and easy for me to buy token in Kelana Jaya line LRT station TVM.. :lol:

About the zoom-in map, I don't find it hard to use. This arrangement is very similar to Shanghai Metro or Guangzhou Metro ticket vending machine, of which you also need to zoom-in the map. The Singapore MRT ticket vending machine also works in similar manner, but without the zoom-in part.

My problems with the ticketing machine is that it has no reload facility for Touch n Go and sometimes it cannot accept coins, and you have to insert the coin for another time (after you touch "Proceed Payment".

Other than that, I don't see any issues with the zoom-in map, because this is essentially the same method used in Shanghai or Guangzhou or Beijing.

Perhaps, RapidKL should have educate people in the first place, using Youtube (as done by Singapore LTA) as well as having more station staffs to assist people.

Once the people is familiar with the new ticket vending machine, a person should normally take only 30 to 45 seconds to buy a token. I do agree there are many people who are still unfamiliar with the machine. However, at the same time, our ticket vending machine is no different from those employed in China and also Spain (where this machine came from). 1 suggestion that I think would help is that adding three touchscreen buttons such as "Kelana Jaya line", "Ampang line" and "Monorail line", so people will not need to zoom the map.

So far, the number of TVMs are as following.

KL Sentral Monorail = 3

Bukit Bintang = 2 (They should increase it to at least 4 or 5), because during peak hour, the queue was very bad.


If they introduce MyRapid card with discounted fare price, I don't see why people still wan to buy tokens.. :cheers:

If they introduce MyRapid card with discounted fare price, I don't see why people still wan to buy tokens.. :cheers:

if i were the developer
i'll make sure that everyone using stored value card
or even the monthly pass
those who refuse to use these
then i'll make sure that they will regret using standard card
this is how singapore mrt work (in my opinion)
ones need to pay extra 1$ for standard ticket price
on top of non-discounted fare ticket
and to redeem their 1$
return the card to tvm
so 2 work instead of 1,for a single journey

Oo.. So only Monorail TVM is backward?? LRT is still ok? :nuts:
I said this because, it was perfectly fine and easy for me to buy token in Kelana Jaya line LRT station TVM.. :lol:

i've no problem using the tvm too
level of difficulty to use i can say at par with smrt/sbst tvm
only that i don't have to go to the tvm again after completing my journey
to return the single journey card
and get my 1$

ini langsir bilik mandi i pun is far superior! :lol:

aiseh cannot blame 'made in china' because Apple Inc. punya products pun all made in china oso.

but if it is 'developed, designed and produced in china by chinese company', that's sure will be like this. :nuts:

What have Thai companies developed, designed & produced other than exporting rice and assembling for foreign multinationals. At least China has some multinational companies in manufacturing such as Lenovo, Haier, and Huawei, which are considered as a leader in individual industry.

From The Edge Daily (21/2/2012)

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From The Edge Daily (21/2/2012)

KL-JB: 368km.

368km/1.5hr = abt 250km/hr.

On a metre-gauge? This will be interesting.

A further point: On existing track and alignment? with all the bends? Are they thinking of tilting train? Will this be good enough?