RAIL TRANSIT Thread - General News on anything LRT, Monorail, KTM & other rail works [Archive] - Page 9

rizalhakim

July 27th, 2009, 10:18 AM

KL Monorel teruskan penambahbaikan

KUALA LUMPUR 24 Julai - KL Monorail Sdn. Bhd. akan terus membuat penambahbaikan terhadap sistem, kemudahan dan perkhidmatan monorel di ibu negara bagi menjadikannya pengangkutan awam kelas pertama.

Ketua Pegawai Operasi KL Monorail, Khairani Mohamed berkata, ia juga bertujuan menjadikan perkhidmatan itu lebih selesa dan selamat serta penumpang berpuas hati.

"Keselesaan penumpang semasa menggunakan KL Monorel merupakan keutamaan kami dan ia akan terus dipertingkatkan," katanya pada majlis Anugerah Penumpang ke-100 juta di Stesen Monorel Bukit Bintang semalam.

Juruukur bahan, Norzahila Muzahid, 32, menjadi penumpang bertuah itu dan menerima hadiah sebuah televisyen paparan kristal cecair (LCD).

Menurut Khairani, orang ramai boleh melihat sendiri kerja-kerja penambahbaikan yang sedang dijalankan di stesen-stesen monorel di sekitar ibu negara.

Katanya, salah satu daripadanya ialah pemasangan Sistem Pintu Pagar Platform Automatik (PAGS) bagi memastikan keselamatan para penumpang di platform.

"Banyak lagi kerja penambahbaikan dan langkah-langkah keselamatan akan dilaksanakan seiring dengan perubahan masa dan juga perubahan kehendak penumpang-penumpang," katanya.

Dalam pada itu, beliau berkata, pihaknya akan menjelajah ke seluruh negara bagi mengeratkan lagi hubungan dengan orang ramai di samping menunaikan tanggungjawab sosial.

Katanya, KL Monorel telah merancang pelbagai program kemasyarakatan dan ia agak berbeza daripada konsep biasa yang dilakukan oleh syarikat perkhidmatan pengangkutan awam yang lain.

Di bawah kempen 'We Care' yang dilancarkan Mac lalu, pihaknya ingin meletakkan dimensi yang berbeza di mata penumpang dan bukan sekadar menyediakan perkhidmatan monorel semata-mata.

"Malah, ia turut menerapkan tema kemasyarakatan, keharmonian dan nilai-nilai kasih sayang sejajar dengan konsep 1Malaysia," katanya.

Mengenai wabak influenza A (H1N1) yang sedang melanda negara, Khairani berkata, pihaknya telah mengambil langkah dan menasihati semua kakitangan supaya mematuhi panduan daripada Kementerian Kesihatan.

"Kami sudah sediakan kemudahan seperti losen pembersih tangan dan pembasmi kuman di dalam perkhidmatan kami sebagai langkah untuk mengawal penyebaran wabak ini.

"Staf kami juga akan membersihkan gerabak setiap kali selepas membuat satu pusingan iaitu di Stesen KL Sentral," tegasnya.

KL Monorel merupakan sistem transit aliran ringan dalam bandar yang menghubungkan banyak kawasan utama di Kuala Lumpur seperti Imbi, KL Sentral dan Bukit Bintang.

Sistem transit tersebut yang mempunyai jarak sehala 8.6 kilometer merentasi 11 stesen di sekitar Kuala Lumpur, iaitu bermula di stesen KL Sentral di Brickfields dan Stesen Titiwangsa di Jalan Tun Razak.

Setelah hampir enam tahun beroperasi, pengguna perkhidmatan tersebut telah mencecah angka 100 juta penumpang.

nazrey

July 27th, 2009, 10:25 AM

Bila monorail nak menambah line :lol:

rizalhakim

July 27th, 2009, 10:47 AM

* Kelana Jaya LRT line to get 35 new four-car train sets by 2012 as part of the Government's efforts to increase the use of public transport.:banana::banana:

http://www.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2009/7/27/nation/20090727103556&sec=nation

mrtfreak

July 27th, 2009, 11:22 AM

Isn't that the existing order? 22 new ones and then a further 13 for a total of 35.

allurban

July 27th, 2009, 11:46 AM

Isn't that the existing order? 22 new ones and then a further 13 for a total of 35.It is the existing order - and since they already have at least 3 trains in Malaysia and will start operating some of these trains before the end of the year - this isnt much of a performance indicator.

But, never fear - TRANSIT has come up with a long (and by no means exhaustive) list of performance indicators for public transportation - all of them can be achieved in the time frame set out with a great deal of cooperation from all stakeholders (heheha and then only just barely in time).

But hey, we have to set the bar high and challenge people with achievable targets.

See our performance indicators here:

http://transitmy.org/2009/07/27/key-result-areas-for-public-transport/

Cheers, m

allurban

July 27th, 2009, 12:01 PM

By the way, if you are interested in more details about Prasarana's proposal for the LRT extension, see our postings here:

http://transitmy.org/2009/07/27/proposed-extension-of-kelana-jaya-line-not-finalized/

The article from the NST is below.

Cheers, m

http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/articles/3tta/Article/

Long wait for Subang Jaya LRT station
2009/07/27

By Dawn Chan

SUBANG JAYA: Although the Transport Ministry has received the proposal from Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd (Prasarana) to extend the LRT line to Subang Jaya, nothing has been finalised.

Transport Minister Datuk Seri Ong Tee Keat said Prasarana still needed to look into a few more things.

Upon approval of the plans, a public display of the extension will be held at the Subang Jaya Municipal Council, Petaling Jaya City Council, Shah Alam Municipal Council and the Department of Railways.

Subang Jaya residents will be given three months to voice their opinions during the public display period.

Speaking after a briefing and dialogue session at the 3K Complex, initiated by the Kelana Jaya MCA branch, Ong said Prasarana would have to take into consideration the people's views.

"In the past few months, a presentation was made to me twice. I gave my input and they (Prasarana) will have to include those of the residents, too. They will then finalise the matter. A submission does not mean it is final. I am concerned about the grouses aired by the people," he said.

"I would love to see the area of coverage extended but we must always consider the social impact."

Stressing on the importance of the people's views, Ong said similar dialogue and briefing sessions will be carried out in a few other areas.

He said the objections and views gathered during the public display period must be studied and a hearing on the grouses would be carried out before the plans are finalised.

Prasarana, said Ong, would have to address the concerns raised by residents with regards to noise and privacy, as well as the possible congestion.

More than 300 Subang Jaya residents attended the two-hour briefing on the extension of the Kelana Jaya line by Prasarana group managing director Datuk Idrose Mohamed.

Expected to be completed by 2013, the 17km fully elevated route with 12 stations will begin at Prasarana's depot in Lembah Subang. It will run through KTM Subang Jaya, USJ Summit, Taipan and finally, Putra Heights.

Two stations will be integrated, namely the KTM Subang Jaya and Putra Heights, where a multi-storey park and ride facility will be built. The USJ Summit station will also be provided with a similar facility.

Idrose said the current Ampang LRT Line would also be extended from Sri Petaling to Kinrara, IOI Puchong and to Putra Heights.

Other facilities, such as a disabled friendly feeder bus service, will also be made available within a 5km radius of each station.

Idrose said there would be minimal land acquisition for the LRT extension project as the line would mainly go through TNB, road and river reserves.

During the dialogue session, several residents asked that Bandar Sunway, which houses more than 150,000 households, to be included in the extension.

The suggestion was supported by a college representative and students of colleges located in Bandar Sunway. The representative claimed that students were being fleeced by taxi drivers daily.

Worried residents also asked the authorities to ensure that the LRT route did not go through residential areas and instead commercial and industrial areas.

Concerns such as noise, traffic and the close proximity of the stations, with some located less than 2km apart, were also raised.

nazrey

July 27th, 2009, 12:02 PM

mrtfreak

July 27th, 2009, 02:21 PM

allurban

July 28th, 2009, 05:05 AM

Would it be possible for them to plan in a third track arrangement or perhaps a junction arrangement from the supposed SS18 station which could run along the KESAS and continue on to serve Bandar Sunway? That way, the line would be forked but would serve more areas as well. Perhaps the frequency matching the needs of the local transport requirements?Dato' Irose of Prasarana mentioned the idea of reviving the Sunway monorail but redesigning it into something better.

The solution that works for me is to extend the KL Monorail from Tun Sambanthan past Midvalley, along Old Klang Road and Jalan Puchong to meet the Ampang LRT in Puchong Jaya.

Then, turn the monorail up towards the Lagoon Perdana area of Sunway.

The problem is what do you do upon reaching Sunway - head north to the NPE and Sunway Pyramid, or head west to the Summit and the LRT line?

Sunway is planning on building a flyover from the KESAS highway to reach Sunway pyramid...so there could be an option for a shuttle bus or the monorail could be revived and used as a people mover.

Bus Rapid Transit is also a possibility along the NPE

Cheers, m

rizalhakim

July 28th, 2009, 05:10 AM

http://www.picamatic.com/show/2009/07/27/03/54/4604524_800x504.JPG

nazri

July 28th, 2009, 06:49 AM

SJ folk say yes to LRT
Tuesday July 28, 2009
By OH ING YEEN

WHILE Subang Jaya residents welcome the proposal for the LRT extension to their township, they unanimously agreed that it should not be built through residential areas.

More than 200 residents and students studying in Subang Jaya attended the meeting at the 3K complex multipurpose hall to air their views on the proposed LRT service on Saturday.

A resident, who introduced himself as Chong, said: “While we welcome the LRT, make sure it won’t fly over my house,” as the residents applauded upon hearing his opinion.

The meeting was initiated by Kelana Jaya MCA and co-organised by the Subang Jaya Residents Association (RA), USJ RA, Bandar Sunway RA, Subang Jaya Senior Citizens Club, Subang Jaya Consumers Association, Subang Jaya Coffee, Bar and Restaurant Association, and the Song Ling Choir Association. Transport Minister Datuk Seri Ong Tee Keat and Kelana Jaya MCA chairman Ong Chong Swen attended the meeting.

Prasarana group managing director Datuk Idrose Mohamed gave a presentation on the proposed route and answered questions from the residents.

The proposed 17km route will continue from the Kelana Jaya line and run through the Subang Jaya KTM station, Kesas Highway, Jalan Jengka, Persiaran Kewajipan, Summit USJ, Taipan USJ, up to Putra Heights.

However, the press were not allowed to obtain copies of the proposed route nor take photos of it as it was not the finalised version.

“The basis of the route is high travel demand and minimal social impact. We try to minimise land acquisition,” said Idrose.

“The railway scheme centre route plan and details of land acquisition will be on public display for three months to provide an opportunity for feedback and any comments will be taken into consideration,” he said.

He added that there would be park-and-ride facilities at three of the stations, including at the Subang Jaya KTM station.

“The multi-level parking facility can cater up to 1,000 to 1,500 cars,” he said.

Upon hearing the proposed routes, some residents expressed their concerns about the congestion that would be caused by the construction, illegal parking and feeder buses.

“The construction at the roundabout in Jalan Kewajipan caused congestions. We don’t want any more construction or development there,” a resident said.

To that, Idrose said the LRT serves to take cars off the road and it will cater to 1.4 million people, hence there will be less congestion in the Jalan Kewajipan and Jalan Jengka.

USJ RA member Melvin Lee said if the LRT station were to be integrated with the KTM station, it will cause more congestion in that area.

He added that feeder buses should be provided to ferry people to the stations as it would defeat the idea of reducing congestion if people had to drive to the LRT stations.

Residents and students studying in Bandar Sunway expressed their wish for the LRT line to be extended to their area, too.

Elizabeth Lee, who spoke on behalf of Sunway and Monash University students, said: “We hope that the LRT line can be extended to Sunway as the students are constantly fleeced by taxi drivers,” she said.

Mass Transit Klang Valley (Transit) adviser Moaz Yusuf Ahmad finds that the presentation was good but felt that it should have taken place many years ago.

“The coordination between the agencies in Selangor should be improved as there is an inconsistency between the Selangor Structure Plan, Subang Jaya Local Draft Plan, and the structure plan by Prasarana,” he said.

Transport Minister Datuk Seri Ong Tee Keat said he had received many e-mails from Subang Jaya residents, hence the town hall meeting was the best way for the people to voice out their opinion.

“The views expressed by residents have been taken into consideration,” said Ong.

“Gone are the days of ‘Government knows best’. We are here to solicit the residents’ views,” he said in his speech.

Kelana Jaya MCA chairman Ong Chong Swen, in her speech said: “The LRT extension is much awaited. Many will benefit as it will ease traffic and reduce transportation problems but some are also worried that it may affect their livelihood and business.

“Although it is just a proposed route, at least we can have a view on how the route will look like,” she said.

mrtfreak

July 28th, 2009, 08:00 AM

Dato' Irose of Prasarana mentioned the idea of reviving the Sunway monorail but redesigning it into something better.

The solution that works for me is to extend the KL Monorail from Tun Sambanthan past Midvalley, along Old Klang Road and Jalan Puchong to meet the Ampang LRT in Puchong Jaya.

Then, turn the monorail up towards the Lagoon Perdana area of Sunway.

The problem is what do you do upon reaching Sunway - head north to the NPE and Sunway Pyramid, or head west to the Summit and the LRT line?

Sunway is planning on building a flyover from the KESAS highway to reach Sunway pyramid...so there could be an option for a shuttle bus or the monorail could be revived and used as a people mover.

Bus Rapid Transit is also a possibility along the NPE

Cheers, m
To me, the monorail doesn't seem to have the capacity to deal with Sunway. What with the current configuration, it seems like one of the "LRT lines" in Singapore - a supplementary line to bigger ones.

For your proposition though, why not head both ways? Make a circuit that is able to run both ways and eventually meet up west of the Sunway area, if possible. That way it could even out the load of passengers somewhat I suppose, while serving multiple areas and increasing integration by meeting other modes of transport.

patchay

July 28th, 2009, 10:14 AM

Subang - PJ is soooo in need of LRT now..........

so confirm the KJ line extended?

SS15 Subang (KTM), USJ 2 (Summit) and Sunway (Lagoon/Monash) definitely need a stop.......... how about Puchong area?

As for the Kota Dsara line.... we all know Mutiara/1U, Damansara Utama/TTDI area need a stop

TWK90

July 28th, 2009, 10:21 AM

^^

I think Puchong maybe served by extension of Ampang line...

TWK90

July 28th, 2009, 10:35 AM

New KTM Komuter monthly pass

RM 170, for people who travel between Serendah - Tanjung Malim and KL Sentral

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t224/Nissan_FUGA/KTM/CIMG8142.jpg

Timetable for Rawang-Tanjung Malim/ Tanjung Malim-Rawang run......

Interestingly, early runs from Tanjung Malim to Rawang are served by EMUs, not diesel locomotive + coaches...these EMUs will continue its journey to Seremban...
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t224/Nissan_FUGA/KTM/CIMG8143.jpg

johnsonooi

July 28th, 2009, 02:55 PM

allurban

July 29th, 2009, 07:01 AM

I am just voice my opinion. Is that practically possible that KTM should be integrated in Rapid KL system? i.e. KTM is part of Rapid KL and all the public transport in Klang Valley use the same ticketing and merchandising system, just like Melbourne's Metlink, but operated by numerous operators, such as Connex (trains), Yarra Tram (trams), Melbourne Bus Link, National Buses etc...It's a long term plan for Prasarana but KTMB wants to maintain some independence in the matter.

Long term you will see KTMB give up the planning to Prasarana but operate the Komuter service.

Im already working on the Komuter Laju proposal for TRANSIT... just need a fully detailed track diagram and schedules.

Cheers, m

allurban

July 29th, 2009, 07:03 AM

To me, the monorail doesn't seem to have the capacity to deal with Sunway. What with the current configuration, it seems like one of the "LRT lines" in Singapore - a supplementary line to bigger ones.

For your proposition though, why not head both ways? Make a circuit that is able to run both ways and eventually meet up west of the Sunway area, if possible. That way it could even out the load of passengers somewhat I suppose, while serving multiple areas and increasing integration by meeting other modes of transport.The current monorail does not have the capacity but Im presuming that the extended monorail would have the SCOMI SUTRA monorail (4-carriages) or perhaps 2-SUTRAs coupled (8 carriages).

The idea of a Subang Jaya loop is also a possibility - Puchong to Sunway to SJ to Summit and back to Puchong

Cheers, m

TWK90

July 29th, 2009, 07:22 AM

Source : http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v5/newsgeneral.php?id=428598

All Systems Go For Synergised Public Transport System - Tee Keat

KUALA LUMPUR, July 28 (Bernama) -- The government is forging ahead with plans to create a synergised public transport service as part of an ambitious bid to achieve a 70:30 ratio of private to public vehicles by next year, Transport Minister Datuk Seri Ong Tee Keat said.

In an interview with the Oxford Business Group (OBG), a global publishing, research and consultancy firm, he said the aim was to increase capacity and connectivity within the public transport sector, with particular emphasis on elevating the railway presence in the country.

Ong said that at the core of the plans were the intercity and commuter services of the main rail operator, Keretapi Tanah Melayu Berhad (KTMB), with the construction of major electrified double-track projects as a priority.

He explained that to ensure that KTMB could handle the ever-increasing number of passengers passing through the Klang Valley, the government had allocated RM200 million to procure 10 sets of electric multiple units.

"A significant number of infrastructure projects are simultaneously making their way off the drawing board, which will play a key part in creating the integrated public transport service.

"Kuala Lumpur City Hall, RapidKL, and the National Infrastructure Company are building infrastructure such as aerobridges, covered walkways, escalators, lifts and access roads to major light rail stations, monorails, express rail links and KTMB commuter lines," he said.

While the government is making a significant investment in rail transport, Ong said, the aviation and maritime sectors were also benefiting from numerous projects which had been signed off under the Ninth Malaysia Plan (9MP).

He said the ministry was overseeing a total of 269 projects across the sectors amounting to around RM15.3 billion, adding that most of the projects should be completed by next year.

"A few projects will be carried over to the 10th Malaysia Plan, such as the double-tracking project from Ipoh to Padang Besar and from Seremban to Gemas, which are expected to be completed in 2013 and 2012, respectively," he added.

Ong said he expected a far-reaching national transport policy to be put together as part of the overhaul earmarked for the public transport system.

The policy would be formulated by the National Public Transportation Commission (NPTC), which was set up to regulate land-based public transport, he said.

Its scope would extend from aspects of resource planning to regulating competition within sectors and various areas of enforcement such as road worthiness and public safety, he added.

-- BERNAMA

There is one thing i don't get it.....what is really an aerobridge?

I thought aerobridge is something like a bridge for passengers in airports?

Well, pedestrian bridge with air-conditioning, should be an novel idea, in my opinion...especially for our climate...

ISwitch

July 29th, 2009, 02:33 PM

Oh, I miss the monorail in KL...I used to ride on it everyday for 3 months...5 years ago.

timothy2484

July 31st, 2009, 03:25 AM

daeng_jal

August 1st, 2009, 01:00 PM

i heard in some section, that some subway in some country at some station, have only some of the door open, like, in a 8 carriage mode, the middle 4 open to allowed passenger to get in and out,while the 2 door in the front and rear are stagnant...

johnsonooi

August 1st, 2009, 04:43 PM

Good to see that. Very thoughtful of you.

Finally manage to post. Kindly read below guys. thanks!

Hey guys, I’ve been thinking a lot recently about the KJ Line extension
and would like to share my views on a solution.
I think some of you may have proposed similar solutions in this thread. Apologies that I didn’t quote your suggestions.

Whether it’s feasible or not, I don’t know :) but it could be possible.
Feel free to share your views.

Cheers,
Tim

Kelana Jaya Line LRT Extension - 8 Carriage Proposal

All LRT stations along the extended line should be built to cater for 8 carriages.

Argument:

Current capacity (2 carriage) = 160,000 daily
Additional capacity (4 carriage) = 300,000 daily
(Source: http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2008/8/22/nation/22146142&sec=nation
http://thestar.com.my/metro/story.asp?file=/2008/8/18/central/1776673&sec=central)

Currently the Kelana Jaya Line is stressed to the brim with the 2 carriages that are in operation.
Soon, 4 carriages will be introduced to relief the load of the line.
However, it is inevitable that the 4 carriage trains will eventually
be overcrowded.

http://thestar.com.my/archives/2008/6/15/nation/n_01railtrack.jpg

It must be strongly noted that once the KJ Line is extended (assuming it goes according to plan),
the capacity of the 4 carriage trains will be filled up in an instant.
One of the main factors is that it will run through high density areas like Subang, Usj, and the possibility of Sunway.
The extension of the line will now open opportunities for people to travel all the way from i.e. KL to USJ, vice versa.
Not to mention other passangers changing from the Ampang Line and Kota Damansara-Cheras Line.
A 4 carriage train is not sufficient in the long run.

Proposal:

1. All LRT stations along the extended line should be built to cater for 8 carriages.

http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/5291/upload3.jpg

2. New system for boarding/alighting at existing stations (above and underground)

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/8229/upload2.jpg

Challenges

1. Amount of land space needed to build an 8 carriage station. Might be difficult in denser areas.
2. Additional time taken for people to board/alight the train at existing stations.

TWK90

August 1st, 2009, 05:55 PM

The problem is additional time taken in stations...

lesart

August 1st, 2009, 08:07 PM

Hmm.. can't they just split the train? Have 4-carriage each, but with greater frequency and smaller intervals?

mrtfreak

August 2nd, 2009, 03:34 AM

patchay

August 2nd, 2009, 06:04 PM

tunomura

August 2nd, 2009, 07:01 PM

^^Yeah, it's already one year since the extension proposal heard...
Till now, no approved layout showed and only KJL extension talked, how about SPL extension??SPNB not buying new trainset for SPL ka??:ohno:

How about Kota Damasara - Cheras Line any new info?Their study not finish lagi ka?Haiya...why takes so long time maa:ohno:

Don't just talking..do sumting!!

--Peace--

allurban

August 3rd, 2009, 04:54 AM

^^ For sure. Have seen it on 90 second intervals before, just that the time taken for boarding & alighting makes the second train have to wait outside the station. 1 or 2 minute headways would be acceptable I'm sure and give a better commuter experience than having to move halfway out of the station and wait for the second half to load and unload. And if commuters see a train waiting outisde the station for the current one to depart, hopefully they'll just wait for the next one instead of trying to crush onboard the one at the platform.part of the challenge is that there is massive congestion at the platforms from KL Sentral to Ampang Park ... right now RapidKL brings empty trains in from Universiti or Kelana Jaya all the way to KL Sentral before they pick up passengers.

At some point, RapidKL is going to have to start turning trains back at Universiti and Setiawangsa to increase the frequency in the core section.

Maybe they will do this with the new 4-carriage trains. No point in running them from end to end except during peak hours.

Cheers, m

allurban

August 3rd, 2009, 04:56 AM

Issit true that we only get to see a comprehensive LRT from Year 2016 ????

Why the KJ extension still in discussion/feedback mode leh? Aiseh i tot it was done ages ago....

One question: Can the LRT lines run along the major highways like Federal or LDP or NKVE???how do you mean, "run along the major highways" patchay?

Do you mean, running in the centre of the highways at ground level? Running along one side?

KJL runs along the Federal Highway from MidValley to Universiti, Taman Jaya to Asia Jaya, and LDP from Taman Bahagia to Kelana Jaya.

Ampang line runs along the Sg. Besi highway and the extension will run along the south side of the KESAS highway, possibly hopping over the highway at Puchong Jaya.

Cheers, m

allurban

August 3rd, 2009, 05:02 AM

Finally manage to post. Kindly read below guys. thanks!

Hey guys, I’ve been thinking a lot recently about the KJ Line extension
and would like to share my views on a solution.
I think some of you may have proposed similar solutions in this thread. Apologies that I didn’t quote your suggestions.

Whether it’s feasible or not, I don’t know :) but it could be possible.
Feel free to share your views.

Cheers,
Tim

Kelana Jaya Line LRT Extension - 8 Carriage Proposal

All LRT stations along the extended line should be built to cater for 8 carriages.

Argument:

Current capacity (2 carriage) = 160,000 daily
Additional capacity (4 carriage) = 300,000 daily
(Source: http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2008/8/22/nation/22146142&sec=nation
http://thestar.com.my/metro/story.asp?file=/2008/8/18/central/1776673&sec=central)

Currently the Kelana Jaya Line is stressed to the brim with the 2 carriages that are in operation.
Soon, 4 carriages will be introduced to relief the load of the line.
However, it is inevitable that the 4 carriage trains will eventually
be overcrowded.

http://thestar.com.my/archives/2008/6/15/nation/n_01railtrack.jpg

It must be strongly noted that once the KJ Line is extended (assuming it goes according to plan),
the capacity of the 4 carriage trains will be filled up in an instant.
One of the main factors is that it will run through high density areas like Subang, Usj, and the possibility of Sunway.
The extension of the line will now open opportunities for people to travel all the way from i.e. KL to USJ, vice versa.
Not to mention other passangers changing from the Ampang Line and Kota Damansara-Cheras Line.
A 4 carriage train is not sufficient in the long run.

Proposal:

1. All LRT stations along the extended line should be built to cater for 8 carriages.

http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/5291/upload3.jpg

2. New system for boarding/alighting at existing stations (above and underground)

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/8229/upload2.jpg

Challenges

1. Amount of land space needed to build an 8 carriage station. Might be difficult in denser areas.
2. Additional time taken for people to board/alight the train at existing stations.Place the train so that the last two carriage and the first two carriages are at the stations. The other ones do not open - but the problem with this is that it is very inconvenient because you have to walk through the train to get to the carraiges with open doors. We are talking about walking as much as 30+ meters through crowds of people.

However, I do agree that KJL stations will have to be expanded to 8-carriage trains in the future.

The real challenge will be with the underground stations. Some have station boxes that have enough space for the extension (with minor construction work) while others have little available space and major construction would be needed.

Also, for some stations you will end up with trains on curving platforms, like the London Tube :lol:

also, the concourses for the underground stations would have to be expanded.

Cheers, m

ps. major refitting of KLCC station concourse is coming soon. And they may expand the concourse eastwards

Cheers, m

patchay

August 3rd, 2009, 05:26 AM

how do you mean, "run along the major highways" patchay?

Do you mean, running in the centre of the highways at ground level? Running along one side?

KJL runs along the Federal Highway from MidValley to Universiti, Taman Jaya to Asia Jaya, and LDP from Taman Bahagia to Kelana Jaya.

Yes i meant both, running in centre of highways as well as along the sides - whichever is possible depending on area and circumstances.

The current KJL parallel with highway is pretty short distance only. Why not KJL run from KJ all the way to Sunway/Puchong parallel with LDP and then further on to Kinrara till connect with Bukit Jalil/Seri Petaling station ???

I strongly feel Subang need a separate direct line to KL, something like a line connecting from Klang/Bukit Raja - Kota Kemuning - Shah Alam - Putra Heights - USJ - Subang areas to KL, most important to bypass PJ areas.....

davidlow7

August 3rd, 2009, 05:58 AM

The proposed 8-cabin-train will be more ideal in my opinion. With the inclusion of the high frequency of trains. It will definitely help. Please take note that 4-carriage train capacity inclusive of the extensions may not help.

The same problem as for current 2-carriage + overloaded people. People at the mid station experiencing the congestion may still face the same issue even though the 4-carriage train been carried out right after the expansion.

Some 8-carriage train + high frequency can only solve the congestion.

patchay

August 3rd, 2009, 08:09 AM

davidlow7

August 3rd, 2009, 09:01 AM

I dont know but not all stations have high number of passengers for 8-car trains.

We can use the normal 4-car trains first for every 5-8 minute intervals. Then in between the intervals especially during peak hours, why not implement something like "KLCC express" using only 8-car trains that start from KJ, then stop at KL Sentral and KLCC only???

This is also one of the idea can be considered.

However if 4-car trains are all the time full. Even if it gets to another station which have low passengers, they may still not be able to get in to the train.

However I think this can only be re-decide once we can confirm the loads. But I am quite certain the loads will be very high judging on those extended-areas covered are mostly highly populated and jam area.

allurban

August 3rd, 2009, 01:11 PM

I dont know but not all stations have high number of passengers for 8-car trains.

We can use the normal 4-car trains first for every 5-8 minute intervals. Then in between the intervals especially during peak hours, why not implement something like "KLCC express" using only 8-car trains that start from KJ, then stop at KL Sentral and KLCC only???Initially we are looking at what will happen when the first 5 of the 4-carriage trains go into revenue service at the beginning of October of this year.

When they have 10 trains then maybe they can start looking at running 4-carriage trains along the length of the line,.

Cheers, m

mrtfreak

August 4th, 2009, 05:02 AM

^^ Wasn't it supposed to debut on 29 Sep? :) The 11th anniversary for the line is coming up soon too.

allurban

August 4th, 2009, 05:19 AM

^^ Wasn't it supposed to debut on 29 Sep? :) The 11th anniversary for the line is coming up soon too.
ssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhh ... we aren't allowed to talk about that :bash: :ohno: :nuts:

Yeah, Im hoping it will be the 29th ... but they change these official launchings according to people's schedules, so who knows.

Cheers, m

mrtfreak

August 4th, 2009, 09:49 AM

tunomura

August 4th, 2009, 03:31 PM

^^maybe together with ground breaking ceremony...construction of extension line:banana:

patchay

August 4th, 2009, 06:22 PM

by hafizia

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/hafizia/DSCN1976s.jpg

i feel the front is uglier and less sleek than the current........

nazrey

August 4th, 2009, 10:56 PM

The new one...she looks more original to me!
The current version >>

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Yosri042005PuteraLRT.JPG/800px-Yosri042005PuteraLRT.JPG

allurban

August 5th, 2009, 06:18 AM

^^ :lol: Perhaps we could get some idea if people were able to take the trains on the first day, what's the impact it has on loading/unloading at stations, etc. And also of the new features in the train. By the way, have they begun testing it on the main line yet?Another option would be to get a group of railfans and customers together and get them to test out the loading of the trains, alighting from the trains, issues at different stations, concourses etc. - Id volunteer, wouldn't you?

As far as I know they have been doing some testing along the line but at night, not during the daytime.

Im informed that they did some testing yesterday night but I didnt get the tweet until today :bash:

Cheers, m

allurban

August 5th, 2009, 06:22 AM

^^maybe together with ground breaking ceremony...construction of extension line:banana:they should start the Lembah Subang station right away, without waiting for the approvals for the new line.

That way they can have it ready and trains can move to the station in 1.5 years, instead of waiting for 2-3 years.

Cheers, m

rizalhakim

August 6th, 2009, 06:35 AM

LRT service is to reduce congestion
2009/08/06
Ebi Azly Abdullah, General manager, Communication Division, Rangkaian Pengangkutan Integrasi Deras Sdn Bhd

THOO Su Lin's letter published on May 29 entitled "Why waste parking space at LRT?" expressed her dismay over the unwillingness of a female security guard at RapidKL's Dang Wangi station to allow her to park inside the compound.

The complainant also questioned why the parking space was not fully utilised at the LRT stations.

Please understand that the LRT was expressedly designed for the purpose of reducing congestion caused by too many people driving into the city. This is in line with the public transport policy as outlined by the government.

As most can observe, proper parking spaces are built at our stations or stops outside the city centre. Driving into the city and finding a parking spot so that one may use the LRT will negate all the benefits like convenience and time-saving that the LRT service was built to offer.

The Dang Wangi LRT station was designed with the possibility of future real estate development in mind. This has resulted in ample empty space, and we had previously allowed the public to park there.

However, beginning May 1, we stopped the public from parking at the Dang Wangi station, with the exception of Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd's employees. The parking area will be completely closed when Prasarana moves into its new office.

While we regret the inconvenience faced by Thoo, we would like to urge the public to use public transport, especially the LRT, to enter the city to help ease traffic congestion.

allurban

August 6th, 2009, 08:20 AM

If they want people to take the LRT to the city, then why have parking for Prasarana employees at Dang Wangi LRT?

The HQ is very close to the LRT station - so why not expect Prasarana employees to take the LRT?

Double standard? Maybe it did exist in the past - and they are trying to change things - but how easy is it to effect change when you do not set an example yourself?

See comments (http://transitmy.org/2009/08/06/should-we-have-parking-at-urban-lrt-stations/) at TRANSIT

Cheers, m

ps. Prasarana's new HQ is at Menara UOA at Bangsar LRT station. And it will have ample parking.

davidlow7

August 6th, 2009, 12:01 PM

Even for Kelana Jaya station where they will block the Parking even though it is not fully occupied.

It is highly suspected there might be employee who "booked" the parking lots for their friends or anything. I too suggest that RapidKL better outline all the processes on this and how could they disallow people to move in when it is still not fully occupied!

jee2ice

August 7th, 2009, 03:47 AM

allurban

August 7th, 2009, 04:27 AM

Designing a station park and ride facillities should determine whether the station is serving as a destination station or origin station.

For origin station, where people take train from station nearest to their house to go work or to city center should be provided good facillity of parking lot including security features (CCTV,Gated,Guarded)

For destination station, where many commercial / business activities going on should be provided good passenger circullation and good access / exit entrance at station, parking lots is not required except few numbers for emergency vehicle used or vendor/maintanance employee used.A very good thought...

This works if we presume that all trips originate from the suburban areas and the destination is in the city.

But we also have to consider that many trips can originate in the city and the destination is in the suburbs.

Or the origin is one suburb and the destination is another suburb.

Is Dang Wangi an origin or a destination?

It is located at the end of the Ampang-KL Elevated Highway
It is located in a lower-density part of KL
It is planned that there will be development above the station
It is one of the less-used stations so it is easier to board/alight - fewer crowds
That development will have ample parking...

So....origin or destination?

Cheers, m

mrtfreak

August 7th, 2009, 06:16 AM

Another option would be to get a group of railfans and customers together and get them to test out the loading of the trains, alighting from the trains, issues at different stations, concourses etc. - Id volunteer, wouldn't you?

As far as I know they have been doing some testing along the line but at night, not during the daytime.

Im informed that they did some testing yesterday night but I didnt get the tweet until today :bash:

Cheers, m
Haha, lets say if I met the requirements I probably would. But I wouldn't go out of my way to meet them either. I suppose they could always try to test during the off-peak in the day once night trials are stabilised. I assume that they are testing on revenue track outside of revenue hours?

they should start the Lembah Subang station right away, without waiting for the approvals for the new line.

That way they can have it ready and trains can move to the station in 1.5 years, instead of waiting for 2-3 years.

Cheers, m
I agree with this. Perhaps they could build a long tail track so it would be easier to extend when the approval comes, yet have the versatility to manouver whichever direction when they need to.

Would it be a bit much to have the Damansara-Cheras line have a spur of sorts to connect to the Lembah Subang station?

jee2ice

August 7th, 2009, 01:46 PM

A very good thought...

This works if we presume that all trips originate from the suburban areas and the destination is in the city.

But we also have to consider that many trips can originate in the city and the destination is in the suburbs.

Or the origin is one suburb and the destination is another suburb.

Is Dang Wangi an origin or a destination?

It is located at the end of the Ampang-KL Elevated Highway
It is located in a lower-density part of KL
It is planned that there will be development above the station
It is one of the less-used stations so it is easier to board/alight - fewer crowds
That development will have ample parking...

So....origin or destination?

Cheers, m

----------------------

haha.. of course we can make any destination we want.
To determine whether the station is origin station or destination station,
it is actually not by the mean of looking where you start your journey and end your journey.. It is just a terminology to define station where;
- For Origin station refer to a station where it is around the reach of residential area, or location where ppl taking first train from in the morning peak period;

- For Destination station refer to a station where it is nearby office/business/commercial area, or location where ppl have to reach after their train ride in the morning peak period to work or to change to other mode of transport, therefore, transport hub in the urban city may considered as destination station.

** In special case where, the station is both mixture of origin and destination station. The station must meet the requirement for destination station, that is to have good customer circullation & good exit/entrace station. But
to consider to have good car park facillities is fine provided the space is available.

Of course, the best ideal case is every station to reduce number of parking space, but good feeder bus system is provided no matter it is considered as origin station or destination station. Maybe one day it will happen when our public transportation service is very efficient.

** Anyway, "origin station" and "destination station" is just terminology used by some quarter of people. Maybe can go more precisely term as
("Ordinary suburban station Vs main suburban station ") VERSUS ("Ordinary urban station Vs main urban station " ) :nuts:

Thats just my 2cents ~ haha

allurban

August 10th, 2009, 07:11 AM

I agree with this. Perhaps they could build a long tail track so it would be easier to extend when the approval comes, yet have the versatility to manouver whichever direction when they need to.

Would it be a bit much to have the Damansara-Cheras line have a spur of sorts to connect to the Lembah Subang station?Er...you havent heard this from me...but there is talk for a north-south line from Kota Damansara to Subang Jaya and USJ.

From what Ive heard...Prasarana wants to extend the LRT westwards to Shah Alam and Klang...in the long term...so the Subang Jaya - USJ branch might be incorporated in a Kota Damansara - Subang line in the future

A connection between Kota Damansara and Lembah Subang could follow the NKVE expressway since there is room in the allowance for a wider expressway or an LRT.

The distance would be about 4km or so.

Cheers, m

davidlow7

August 11th, 2009, 02:55 AM

allurban

August 11th, 2009, 07:20 AM

argory

August 11th, 2009, 08:25 AM

Btw, I would like to suggest....
Since car park @ each LRT station are so limited and people are either resort in taking feeder bus or driving their own cars to the station.

Make it this way, if we can ensure every car has at least 2 persons (Carpool) then basically the number of cars will almost be slashed by half (estimation).

As people nowadays refuse to car pool and insist on driving alone, we can do this by offering the car park to the cars that have at least 2 people and above in one-single-car.

I've tried to get people from my apartment and sent an email through our yahoo group (for carpooling purpose) but to no response.

We need to change the people's mentality and we can start doing bit by bit by starting this method.

Any view on this?

I think that is fair suggestion but I am concerned about the practical side of the idea. The negative response that you got is exactly the main problem, and that is not to say that your apartment mates are wrong either. There are justifications to that as people always have different commitments and schedules in a place like KL – and carpooling is an inconvenience that might be perceived as socially stifling to some. Perhaps we need a mindset change, but that takes time and is not necessarily going to happen. I think this is why carpooling has never been terribly successful the world over – what more if you are carpooling to use Public Transport.

Another concern is that it may further discourage single-occupancy vehicles that are currently using the park and ride facilities. What could be done though is to give a substantial discount on parking charges to cars with two or more people and this could be tied in the next time parking charges are raised. It’s the about same concept but with a bit of a twist to it. Still, this requires careful implementation.

In the end, the conclusion is that our stations need to be accessible through an efficient network of high-quality feeders and sheltered walkways that lead to our doorsteps. This really needs urgent attention.

allurban

August 11th, 2009, 11:11 AM

Another concern is that it may further discourage single-occupancy vehicles that are currently using the park and ride facilities. What could be done though is to give a substantial discount on parking charges to cars with two or more people and this could be tied in the next time parking charges are raised. It’s the about same concept but with a bit of a twist to it. Still, this requires careful implementation.

In the end, the conclusion is that our stations need to be accessible through an efficient network of high-quality feeders and sheltered walkways that lead to our doorsteps. This really needs urgent attention.A nice idea but it is rather complicated and costly. We are talking about private companies that aim to maximize their profits. If you want to offer discounts, someone has to pay for it - and it would not be the private companies, and not likely to be the government either.

That is why reserving the best spots for carpooling is a very effective incentive. It costs nothing except for enforcement and it sends a positive message. People still get their spots but people who carpool get the spots that are closer to the station or sheltered by the guideway.

As for feeders and sheltered walkways to our doorsteps - it is not likely to happen unless we live in Hong Kong or Singapore where all the high-density housing estates (apartments and condos) are located along bus routes or have their own bus loops.

In our low density communities feeder buses and walkways are too costly to implement - and again, these are private companies with no one to cover their costs.

Im starting to think that the best and cheapest solution to provide shelter from the sun and rain is to carry a big golf umbrella. Maybe RapidKL can start giving them away for free or cheaply to encourage people to use public transport :nuts:

Cheers, m

allurban

August 11th, 2009, 11:49 AM

Er...you havent heard this from me...but there is talk for a north-south line from Kota Damansara to Subang Jaya and USJ.

From what Ive heard...Prasarana wants to extend the LRT westwards to Shah Alam and Klang...in the long term...so the Subang Jaya - USJ branch might be incorporated in a Kota Damansara - Subang line in the future

A connection between Kota Damansara and Lembah Subang could follow the NKVE expressway since there is room in the allowance for a wider expressway or an LRT.

The distance would be about 4km or so.

Cheers, mBut one thing to consider is that the construction of a spur line or a Damansara-Subang-Putra Heights line would also be dependent on what technology is chosen for the Sg. Buloh - Cheras line.

If the line uses the ART Mark II technology (perhaps built to a future capacity of 8-carriage trains) then a spur line is very likely since the Damansara-Subang Jaya connection can be integrated.

This would save RapidKL money and they could serve areas (Tropicana and Ara Damansara and Sunway Damansara) for a relatively low cost.

If they do not choose the ART Mark II technology then a spur line may also be built - they could use tram technology & overhead wire - but the lines could not be integrated and people would probably be unhappy with the need to change trains.

Personally, I told Prasarana again and again that they should go with the tram technology and the overhead wire and build north, west and south from Lembah Subang. It would be the cheapest and most cost-effective solution :cheers::banana:

Cheers, m

davidlow7

August 12th, 2009, 06:57 AM

I certainly like the idea...give the best spots at the LRT stations to people who carpool...at least in the am peak hours.

Combine that with an increase in the cost of parking in the city and an increase in enforcement on illegal parking and you have yourself a plan.

Er...David would you mind posting this idea to TRANSIT as well? And do you mind if we forward the idea to RapidKL?

Cheers, m

Thanks, will post this to TRANSIT and update you guys in awhile. Please feel free to forward this idea to RapidKL too. :)

I think that is fair suggestion but I am concerned about the practical side of the idea. The negative response that you got is exactly the main problem, and that is not to say that your apartment mates are wrong either. There are justifications to that as people always have different commitments and schedules in a place like KL – and carpooling is an inconvenience that might be perceived as socially stifling to some. Perhaps we need a mindset change, but that takes time and is not necessarily going to happen. I think this is why carpooling has never been terribly successful the world over – what more if you are carpooling to use Public Transport.

Another concern is that it may further discourage single-occupancy vehicles that are currently using the park and ride facilities. What could be done though is to give a substantial discount on parking charges to cars with two or more people and this could be tied in the next time parking charges are raised. It’s the about same concept but with a bit of a twist to it. Still, this requires careful implementation.

In the end, the conclusion is that our stations need to be accessible through an efficient network of high-quality feeders and sheltered walkways that lead to our doorsteps. This really needs urgent attention.

I believe this is a good idea to encourage people to have the carpooling attitude. Of course it takes time but it is good for not only saving cost, troubles, but it also good for the environment and a lot more.

Since number of cars in the parking lot will be slashed significantly if people start carpooling. We can reserve another some lots for people who have some heavy items to carry so that they too can use it. It is a reasonable request for those who have a valid reason to use the parking lot.

Another problem shall arise too is we might also see some people are having problems for not able to find people to carpool with them and result them not being able to use the parking facility.

For those people who are interested but have no friend/someone to carpool. They too actually write down their name in the list and their location. (Thru which channel then we have to discuss)

Then, in the list we have Male and Female section respectively so the female can follow the female driver while the male can follow the male driver. Not a restriction but it is all up to them if they are willing to carpool with another gender.

This carpooling will definitely work for some areas which have public transport are not willing to cover or have very poor service at.

Another benefit is good for some people have to walk quite far away to hire a bus/LRT especially female as they are always targeted by some snatch thieves, robbers etc.

Sometimes people tend to rather spend more on driving because they would rather not save few ringgits just to risk their life. I would certainly not too.

Since RapidKL increase their bus fare and their time management is still not up to par. We shall do something on our own rather than waiting for them.

argory

August 12th, 2009, 08:04 AM

A nice idea but it is rather complicated and costly. We are talking about private companies that aim to maximize their profits. If you want to offer discounts, someone has to pay for it - and it would not be the private companies, and not likely to be the government either.

That is why reserving the best spots for carpooling is a very effective incentive. It costs nothing except for enforcement and it sends a positive message. People still get their spots but people who carpool get the spots that are closer to the station or sheltered by the guideway.

As for feeders and sheltered walkways to our doorsteps - it is not likely to happen unless we live in Hong Kong or Singapore where all the high-density housing estates (apartments and condos) are located along bus routes or have their own bus loops.

In our low density communities feeder buses and walkways are too costly to implement - and again, these are private companies with no one to cover their costs.

Im starting to think that the best and cheapest solution to provide shelter from the sun and rain is to carry a big golf umbrella. Maybe RapidKL can start giving them away for free or cheaply to encourage people to use public transport :nuts:

Cheers, m

I am quite aware of the complexity which is why I stressed that it needs careful implementation. On making money, it boils down to priorities and how you fit them into your operations.

I understood davidlow7’s post as suggesting that no single-occupancy vehicles should be allowed – which was reflected in my response. But you’re actually talking about reserving selected spots for carpooling – that is another method altogether which I think is good too – especially if your car parks are sprawling.

Now, even if you take the MPSJ population at modest 500,000 within an area of 162sqkm – you’re getting about 3100 persons/sqkm across the board. I don’t think that’s low density.

Taking it to your “doorstep” was an expression of the accessibility and convenience that we should target for. You can’t literally have sheltered walkways on all roads – walkways have their own planning hierarchy and are a big deal in the overall PT masterplan. Are you also suggesting that we don’t implement feeders simply because no body can fund it? :?:

Well, you can give away large golf umbrellas, but you can’t make sure they lug it along with their laptops and shopping bags in a crowded train, now can you?

argory

August 12th, 2009, 08:19 AM

Thanks, will post this to TRANSIT and update you guys in awhile. Please feel free to forward this idea to RapidKL too. :)

I believe this is a good idea to encourage people to have the carpooling attitude. Of course it takes time but it is good for not only saving cost, troubles, but it also good for the environment and a lot more.

Since number of cars in the parking lot will be slashed significantly if people start carpooling. We can reserve another some lots for people who have some heavy items to carry so that they too can use it. It is a reasonable request for those who have a valid reason to use the parking lot.

Another problem shall arise too is we might also see some people are having problems for not able to find people to carpool with them and result them not being able to use the parking facility.

For those people who are interested but have no friend/someone to carpool. They too actually write down their name in the list and their location. (Thru which channel then we have to discuss)

Then, in the list we have Male and Female section respectively so the female can follow the female driver while the male can follow the male driver. Not a restriction but it is all up to them if they are willing to carpool with another gender.

This carpooling will definitely work for some areas which have public transport are not willing to cover or have very poor service at.

Another benefit is good for some people have to walk quite far away to hire a bus/LRT especially female as they are always targeted by some snatch thieves, robbers etc.

Sometimes people tend to rather spend more on driving because they would rather not save few ringgits just to risk their life. I would certainly not too.

Since RapidKL increase their bus fare and their time management is still not up to par. We shall do something on our own rather than waiting for them.

Actually, there are ride-sharing/ ride-matching websites and programmes in the developed world. :)

patchay

August 12th, 2009, 04:48 PM

Ride-share is good BUT the most important thing is our "culture/mentality" lah... Many ppl out there have ths phobia of ride and share....

allurban

August 13th, 2009, 05:34 AM

Now, even if you take the MPSJ population at modest 500,000 within an area of 162sqkm – you’re getting about 3100 persons/sqkm across the board. I don’t think that’s low density.

Taking it to your “doorstep” was an expression of the accessibility and convenience that we should target for. You can’t literally have sheltered walkways on all roads – walkways have their own planning hierarchy and are a big deal in the overall PT masterplan. Are you also suggesting that we don’t implement feeders simply because no body can fund it? :?:
The average density of 3100 persons/sqkm ... is that across the whole MPSJ (Subang Jaya, USJ, Putra Heights, Puchong, Kinrara, Seri Kembangan and Serdang)?

Is that density enough to produce the 10000-15000 passengers who need to use the LRT daily to make it financially viable? Is there higher density in certain areas - Puchong and Kinrara for example?

What is the existing level of demand for public transport at this point? Is there a potential 30,000 passengers per hour (in each direction) during the peak hours?

Compare that density to what we have in MBPJ ... does MBPJ have a higher average density or lower density? Are the concentrations of density in MBPJ higher or lower as compared to MPSJ?

Those are the kind of questions that a local public transport authority ought to be asking when it comes to planning an LRT.

Instead, we have the Ampang and Kelana Jaya line extensions going to Putra Heights to create a "loop" and "integration" in the network.

According to this theory, if a passenger want to go from Shah Alam to Serdang, they would go to Subang Jaya, change lines, board the LRT, travel to Putra Heights, change lines again, board the other LRT, travel to Bandar Tasik Selatan, change lines again, board the KTM and travel to their destination at Serdang.

And this does not even include the trip before and after.....

That is not the kind of planning that we need. That is not the kind of decision making that we need because it results in the unnecessary overspending of RM.

Argory, just so you know Ive been fighting with RapidKL to increase the number of feeder buses for the past 2 years - and getting nowhere with it. In fact, RapidKL is changing 8 tempatan buses to utama buses with the new fare system. Ive also been fighting to get the Selangor tate government and local councils to fund local feeder shuttle bus and taxi service - and they do not want to pay it. But they are happy to build more bus stops.

It all comes down to the same issue - it is easier to get and secure capital funding than it is to secure operations funding. That's why we get the LRT instead of more buses or bus lanes. And that is why we get covered walkways instead of feeder buses.

Cheers, m

argory

August 13th, 2009, 07:46 AM

The average density of 3100 persons/sqkm ... is that across the whole MPSJ (Subang Jaya, USJ, Putra Heights, Puchong, Kinrara, Seri Kembangan and Serdang)?

Is that density enough to produce the 10000-15000 passengers who need to use the LRT daily to make it financially viable? Is there higher density in certain areas - Puchong and Kinrara for example?

What is the existing level of demand for public transport at this point? Is there a potential 30,000 passengers per hour (in each direction) during the peak hours?

Compare that density to what we have in MBPJ ... does MBPJ have a higher average density or lower density? Are the concentrations of density in MBPJ higher or lower as compared to MPSJ?

Those are the kind of questions that a local public transport authority ought to be asking when it comes to planning an LRT.

Instead, we have the Ampang and Kelana Jaya line extensions going to Putra Heights to create a "loop" and "integration" in the network.

According to this theory, if a passenger want to go from Shah Alam to Serdang, they would go to Subang Jaya, change lines, board the LRT, travel to Putra Heights, change lines again, board the other LRT, travel to Bandar Tasik Selatan, change lines again, board the KTM and travel to their destination at Serdang.

And this does not even include the trip before and after.....

That is not the kind of planning that we need. That is not the kind of decision making that we need because it results in the unnecessary overspending of RM.

Argory, just so you know Ive been fighting with RapidKL to increase the number of feeder buses for the past 2 years - and getting nowhere with it. In fact, RapidKL is changing 8 tempatan buses to utama buses with the new fare system. Ive also been fighting to get the Selangor tate government and local councils to fund local feeder shuttle bus and taxi service - and they do not want to pay it. But they are happy to build more bus stops.

It all comes down to the same issue - it is easier to get and secure capital funding than it is to secure operations funding. That's why we get the LRT instead of more buses or bus lanes. And that is why we get covered walkways instead of feeder buses.

Cheers, m

Hold your horses mate…we were discussing about feeders and whether our communities are low density or not – not about justifying the LRT. But since you raised it, are you saying 15,000 daily per station or what? Besides I don’t think you need to ensure 30,000 pphpd on every section at this point or even on the day it opens– because it is also a capacity provision for future needs. If you provide capacity, it can even be an incentive to the TOD concept - its already happening now.

Currently from Shah Alam, you should be able to take the Komuter to Serdang with a change in KL Sentral. A long journey, but you do have the option of changing once only.

Until a complete restructuring exercise (operations, fare, integration, policies, etc) is implemented– you will not get much success I should assume. I admire your praiseworthy determination and enthusiasm, but it is possible that we see differently on certain things.:cheers:

nazrey

August 13th, 2009, 08:40 AM

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James Foong

August 13th, 2009, 04:52 PM

I think this is why carpooling has never been terribly successful the world over – what more if you are carpooling to use Public Transport.

Right. Money and convenience wise, Why would somebodies carpool to station and then take the hassle of crowded public transport to use, when they could hv drive it straight to the offices?

Another concern is that it may further discourage single-occupancy vehicles that are currently using the park and ride facilities. What could be done though is to give a substantial discount on parking charges to cars with two or more people and this could be tied in the next time parking charges are raised. It’s the about same concept but with a bit of a twist to it. Still, this requires careful implementation.

In the end, the conclusion is that our stations need to be accessible through an efficient network of high-quality feeders and sheltered walkways that lead to our doorsteps. This really needs urgent attention.

Given that most stations are not parking-adequate, different price to single and multiple occupants r unjustified for fair use. I would suggest that fare discount is given to those that took the feeder bus.

rizalhakim

August 14th, 2009, 05:24 AM

Four-carriage trains in service by October
By CHOONG MEK ZHIN

COMMUTERS using the Kelana Jaya Light Rail Transit (LRT) line can expect to ride in the new four-carriage trains that will be added to the current fleet of two-carriage trains by October.

Six of the trains, which have a passenger capacity of nearly 800, are now being tested and are expected to boost the use of public transport in the Klang Valley from the current 16% to 25% by the end of 2012.

“Currently, we have 35 two-carriage trains in operation on the Kelana Jaya line and we expect to add 35 four-carriage trains to the current fleet by 2012,” RapidKL communication division general manager Ebi Azly Abdullah said.

He added that, to meet the expected increase in the number of commuters, the company had come up with a new automatic fare collection gate that used the cashless Touch ’n Go card.

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Faster passage: (From left) Yusri, Ebi Azly and Mohd Hanafi showing how fast it is to use the new automatic fare collection gate that uses the cashless Touch ‘n Go cards.

“We want to encourage more commuters to use the card as it is faster and more efficient, particularly with the installation of the new specialised gates,” Touch ’n Go transit and theme parks head Yusri Yahya said.

During the media preview of the gate project, which is being implemented at a cost of RM3mil, Yusri also said only 10% of the total commuters used the card now.

According to RapidKL automatic fare collection senior manager Mohd Hanafi Osman, 10 of the 23 stations on the Kelana Jaya LRT line have been identified as having a high volume of commuters, with enough demand to warrant the installation of the gates.

According to Mohd Hanafi, there will be 46 gates installed by today. “The Masjid Jamek station is the last to be equipped with this 100% locally-made and programmed gate,” he said.

The Kelana Jaya, Taman Bahagia, Kerinchi, Bangsar, KL Sentral, KLCC, Ampang Park, Wangsa Maju and Gombak stations have been equipped with the gates in stages since April.

“By using the scissor barrier instead of the old flap one, a maximum of 40 people can pass through it per minute, compared with 30 to 35 at the old gates,” Mohd Hanafi said, adding that the new gates had a faster reaction time.

The new gates are equipped with a safety feature so that the barriers will not close if they sense an object or person passing between the gates.

On a separate issue, people working and living in the fast developing area of Taman Sri Rampai can expect the LRT station in the area to begin operations soon.

“The station is located between the Wangsa Maju and Setiawangsa stations on the Kelana Jaya LRT line and was built as a provisional station.

“The recent development of the area has prompted us to include it in our list of train stops,” Ebi Azly said.

nazrey

August 14th, 2009, 03:07 PM

http://thestar.com.my/archives/2009/8/14/central/m_04yusri.jpg

Faster passage: (From left) Yusri, Ebi Azly and Mohd Hanafi showing how fast it is to use the new automatic fare collection gate that uses the cashless Touch ‘n Go cards.

Congratulations!!!! :cheers:

argory

August 15th, 2009, 01:43 PM

Given that most stations are not parking-adequate, different price to single and multiple occupants r unjustified for fair use. I would suggest that fare discount is given to those that took the feeder bus.

It would be even more unfair to ban single occupancy vehicles altogether which was really why I believed a discount for high occupancy vehicles was a fair compromise in that context. Reserving the best spots for carpooling (as suggested by Allurban) is another way and is perhaps easier to implement. This incentive-based situation is somewhat similar in the implementation of carpooling lanes.

The main justification for this whole carpooling initiative is that each parking space will be encouraged to be used more efficiently and this potentially increases park & ride capacity (without costly physical expansion) which can then cater to new ridership as well as other environmental advantages that come with carpooling. :cool:

James Foong

August 15th, 2009, 04:36 PM

Argory, I appreciate if there is a reward for high occupancies as you suggested. But the discount rate shld be carefully work out as to not over economised the cost of travelling in public vehicles to the station, compare to feeder bus traveling. I afraid the incentive may further put off the commuters from using feeder bus, especially those live within 2km away.

Regarding to parking reserve for carpoolers, perhaps those spots are only entitled to the vehicle thats has more than 2 adults, given that parkings r very limited.

To maximised the carpooling positive effects and reward those fail to get reserve spots even they qualify by having more than 2 adults, then discounts can be introduced and applied to the regular carpooler group (at least 4-day trips per week) than the occasional carpooler group thats make less. This can be done by submitting all the 'carpooling trip coupons' issued by the parking operator on daily basis until they accumulates it to 4-day per week. At the end of each week total trips, then a discount in the form of refund is given out.

nazrey

August 16th, 2009, 10:59 PM

RapidKL Reaches Out To Commuters Through Twitter And SMS
August 16, 2009 23:36 PM

KUALA LUMPUR, Aug 16(Bernama)-- RapidKL, the integrated bus and rail public transportation company has included Twitter feed and a SMS alert system to enhance its communication with commuters.

Its communication general manager Ebi Azly Abdullah said in a statement Sunday, Twitter users could tweet to @MYrapidKL about disruptions of services, dangerous driving, traffic jams and pilferage.

Through its SMS alert system, commuters would be notified on any major interruptions or delays in LRT and bus services and the public need to register as a member on its website which has been upgraded at www.rapidkl.com.my .

RapidKL had also set up a new helpline at 03-78852585 and extended its operating hours from 7am to 8pm on weekdays and from 8.30am to 5.30pm on Saturdays and Sundays.

-- BERNAMA

nazrey

August 17th, 2009, 02:56 AM

Awaiting DBKL approval for escalator repairs
Monday August 17, 2009
By LIM CHIA YING

http://thestar.com.my/archives/2009/8/17/central/m_pg05ampang.jpg

Not in service: The escalator leading up to the Bandaraya station
on the Ampang Line has been cordoned off.

SEVERAL regular LRT users are disappointed that the escalator leading up to the Bandaraya station on the Ampang Line is out of service.

Regular user Patrick Tan said he was in Kuala Lumpur with his friends and noted that the escalator, which is located across the road from the Sogo shopping complex, was not working when they wanted to use it.

“We guessed that it was either out of order or had not been commissioned yet. However, the escalator looked more like it was out of order.

“What is the point of building something if the authority concerned does not get it working?” asked Tan, 60.

Making a site visit, StarMetro saw that the escalator had been cordoned off with tape.

Commuters who wanted to board the LRT were seen taking the flight of stairs instead.

When contacted, RapidKL communication general manager Ebi Azly Abdullah said the escalator area had been cordoned off for about a year due to the construction work at Jalan Esfahan.

“The escalator was subsequently damaged due to its proximity to the construction area and although it is technically not under the jurisdiction of RapidKL, we will do the necessary repairs once we get approval from the Kuala Lumpur City Hall (DBKL),” Ebi Azly said in a statement.

“The repairs will take between two weeks and three months, depending on the availability of spare parts. If we do not receive a response within our stipulated timeline, we’ll proceed with the repair works,” he said.

rizalhakim

August 17th, 2009, 07:49 AM

LRT Station Bandaraya
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Lrt connected bridge from Sogo

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rizalhakim

August 17th, 2009, 07:59 AM

http://biz.thestar.com.my/archives/2009/6/2/business/b_pg08pjd.jpg
Lim Lian Seng pointing to the proposed sky bridge linking Menara PJD to the Star LRT and KL monorail stations.

Meanwhile, PJD had invested some RM700,000 in a sky bridge to link its Menara PJD business tower to the STAR light railway transit and KL monorail stations, Lim said.

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rm700k juz 4 dis meh?? so xpensive??

allurban

August 17th, 2009, 09:02 AM

Hold your horses mate…we were discussing about feeders and whether our communities are low density or not – not about justifying the LRT. But since you raised it, are you saying 15,000 daily per station or what? Besides I don’t think you need to ensure 30,000 pphpd on every section at this point or even on the day it opens– because it is also a capacity provision for future needs. If you provide capacity, it can even be an incentive to the TOD concept - its already happening now.

Currently from Shah Alam, you should be able to take the Komuter to Serdang with a change in KL Sentral. A long journey, but you do have the option of changing once only.

Until a complete restructuring exercise (operations, fare, integration, policies, etc) is implemented– you will not get much success I should assume. I admire your praiseworthy determination and enthusiasm, but it is possible that we see differently on certain things.:cheers:hahahah...I guess I should have said "planning an LRT and feeder system" in that posting. I was still thinking about how people want an LRT line when they really just need better feeder service.

With feeders and LRT - you have to have the density and the demand (real or projected) to warrant the service. And Im worried that the numbers arent there and arent strong enough.

If density and demand (real or projected) are high enough, you can look at a monorail or tram or LRT as a feeder service.

Singapore's LRT lines are a good example. They have been built to a capacity that is greater than what is currently needed. Because Singapore has started to utilize the Transit-Oriented Development Concept and can control development - so they know that the demand will be there in the future - and because the LRT lines are cross subsidized by the MRT lines.

Could something similar be built in Sunway? Or Petaling Jaya Old Town and State? KLCC? It really is a question of the numbers and what people want or do not want.

The type of feeder bus service also depends on the density and demand (again, real or projected) - for example, you can run feeder bus service with 12m buses, mini-buses, taxi-vans, or taxis - even trishaws if you want.

Many people suggest we run mini-buses as feeders - mostly because they believe that the service would be faster because the buses fill up faster - but minibuses may be more costly than full-size buses because the fuel requirements arent that much lower than a 12m bus and you have to pay for more drivers per passenger.

On the other hand, sometimes a 12m bus is just too big and you need smaller buses. And sometimes a taxi makes sense as a feeder - especially if the area covered is really widespread.

You are right about the complete restructuring needed - and that has to come from a totally new concept of public transport where it is not a hands-off, entrepreneurial, competition based system.

No disagreement there. And Im happy to say that the system is slowly changing :banana: but there is a long way ahead :)

Cheers, m

nazrey

August 19th, 2009, 06:28 PM

RapidKL jual pas bulanan “Rapidpass” mulai esok
ARKIB : 19/08/2009 11:49pm

PETALING JAYA 19 Ogos — Rangkaian Pengangkutan Integrasi Deras Sdn Bhd (RapidKL) akan menjual pas bulanan RapidPass dengan menawarkan 50 peratus diskaun mulai esok di 11 hab dan depot bas, serta di semua stesen Sistem Transit Aliran Ringan (LRT) Aliran Kelana Jaya dan Ampang.

Kesemua lima kategori pas bulanan itu boleh didapati di kaunter tiket dan informasi bas Jalan Sultan Mohamed, tujuh hab bas iaitu di Jalan Chow kit, Jalan Silang, Titiwangsa, Maluri, Warta Lama, Putrajaya Sentral, dan hab bas KL Sentral, kata Pengurus Besar Komunikasi, RapidKL Ebi Azly Abdullah dalam satu kenyataan di sini hari ini.

Manakala depot yang akan menjual RapidPass adalah Depot Pandan, Jalan Klang lama serta Jalan Chow Lin, katanya.

Lima kategori pas bulanan itu terdiri daripada RapidPass Bas Tempatan, RapidPass Bas Semua, RapidPass Integrasi Bas dan LRT serta RapidPass konsesi yang terhad untuk pelajar sekolah berpakaian seragam, warga emas 60 tahun ke atas dan Orang Kurang Upaya (OKU). - Bernama

TWK90

August 22nd, 2009, 09:48 AM

http://www.ktmb.com.my/images/default/2009...sipohkajang.pdf (http://www.ktmb.com.my/images/default/2009/Intercity/sipohkajang.pdf)

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KL - Ipoh shuttle now extended to Kajang for certain services...

In my opinion, this will help more Perakians to shop at Mid Valley, which is arguably one of the most popular shopping centre in Kuala Lumpur...

Say, if ETS is running......who knows......Ipoh to Mid Valley in 2 hour 2x minutes or 2 hour 3x minutes?

allurban

August 24th, 2009, 07:21 AM

What do you think of their "feeder bus service" provided by RapidKL???

Seems to me it is RapidKL providing the service and not contracted by KTMB.

See http://transitmy.org/2009/08/24/ktm-information-update/

Cheers, m

davidlow7

August 24th, 2009, 09:50 AM

We hope the transport ministry will ensure the operators work together regardless of their company for the sake of the public.

ilyasr2

August 24th, 2009, 04:24 PM

allurban

August 25th, 2009, 08:02 AM

Concerning Batu Tiga KTM station: I don't understand why can't they cater for residents in Section 13 (Shah Alam stadium area)? Besides permanent residents there are quite a number or students desperately in need of a proper bus system to KTM station. The new MSU building is under construction,soon there will be even more students here,and I don't see why is it not feasible to extend to our area....A very good point...please send an email to Suggest@rapidkl.com.my and to TRANSIT at klangvalley.transit@gmail.com ... also to KTMB at Shariza@ktmb.com.my or Azreen@ktmb.com.my. If you can include maps with your message that would be helpful.

Also, send your feedback to the management of MSU as well. It is quite possible they may already have a plan for feeder service - but more is better than less, no?

Cheers, m

allurban

August 25th, 2009, 08:09 AM

New codes for RapidKL LRT and monorail system

See posting at TRANSIT (http://transitmy.org/2009/08/25/new-lrt-monorail-codes/)

http://transitmy.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/dsc00117.jpg The core stations - KJ for Kelana Jaya, MR for Monorail and SP for what?

KJ22 - Bangsar
KJ23/MR1 - KL Sentral
KJ24 - Pasar Seni
KJ25/SP25 - Masjid Jamek
KJ26 - Dang Wangi
KJ27 - Kg. Baru
KJ28 - KLCC

http://transitmy.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/dsc00115.jpg

Kelana Jaya is KJ 14, so what stations are KJ1-KJ13? We can guess KJ1 is Putra Heights.

http://transitmy.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/dsc00118.jpg

Gombak station will be KJ37

What about the new line - wonder how it will fit in.

Cheers, m

nazrey

August 25th, 2009, 08:44 AM

well organizE!!!!

patchay

August 25th, 2009, 12:33 PM

SP for Seri Petaling

mrtfreak

August 25th, 2009, 12:34 PM

Alpha-numeric coding! Oooh. That is interesting indeed. Perhaps could be extended to the network-wide map for better referencing. My guesses would be as such:

KJ - Kelana Jaya
SP - Sri Petaling
MR - Monorail

So is Terminal Putra now being referred to simply as Gombak? And if so, will there be changes to the announcements on the line. As for the codes KJ 1 through KJ 13, perhaps they've been set aside as the budget allows for 13 stations maximum. It would help cut down costs of altering the coding once the public is familiar with the existing coding. Alternatively, Gombak could have been labelled as KJ 1 as I don't foresee any extension from that end of the line in the near future.

patchay

August 25th, 2009, 12:39 PM

I would assume 13 stations from Putra Heights to KJ... that's already more than what I expected. Good news for Subang folks!

mrtfreak

August 25th, 2009, 12:53 PM

So I guess the coding runs as such:
KJ1 - KJ13 - Subang extension
KJ14 - Kelana Jaya
KJ15 - Taman Bahagia
KJ16 - Taman Paramount
KJ17 - Asia Jaya
KJ18 - Taman Jaya
KJ19 - Universiti
KJ20 - Kerinchi
KJ21 - Abdullah Hukum
KJ22 - Bangsar
KJ23 - KL Sentral
KJ24 - Pasar Seni
KJ25 - Masjid Jamek
KJ26 - Dang Wangi
KJ27 - Kampung Baru
KJ28 - KLCC
KJ29 - Ampang Park
KJ30 - Damai
KJ31 - Dato Keramat
KJ32 - Jelatek
KJ33 - Setiawangsa
KJ34 - Sri Rampai
KJ35 - Wangsa Maju
KJ36 - Taman Melati
KJ37 - Gombak

MR1 - KL Sentral
MR2 - Tun Sanbathan
MR3 - Maharajalela
MR4 - Hang Tuah
MR5 - Imbi
MR6 - Bukit Bintang
MR7 - Raja Chulan
MR8 - Bukit Nanas
MR9 - Medan Tunku
MR10 - Chow Kit
MR11 - Titiwangsa

hafidz jon

August 25th, 2009, 04:05 PM

So is Terminal Putra now being referred to simply as Gombak?

yes...they no longer use name Terminal Putra. and they already use Gombak for quite some time.

announcement, i'm not sure because never travel to that station in a few years. but i think they should've change to Gombak instead.

mrtfreak

August 25th, 2009, 04:39 PM

^^ I see. Thanks for the clarification. It was always Terminal Putra when I was around and since RapidKL took over, I haven't been too familiar with everything exactly. Likewise, I don't usually travel east of KL City and don't have anything to do as far as Gombak, hence never really use that section of the line. Announcement-wise though, do hope that they would begin highlighting the transfer options at the various interchanges as they do on the monorail. Could be a simple "Tukar di sini untuk Aliran Ampang dan Sri Petaling (Change here for Ampang and Sri Petaling lines)".

hafidz jon

August 25th, 2009, 05:08 PM

Lastresorter

August 26th, 2009, 09:45 AM

allurban

August 26th, 2009, 09:50 AM

i think KJL has the best announcement among all lines in kl (excluding ERL coz never use it). RapidKL should opt the same system/announcement for APL too coz i can't hear the hostler (driver) annouce the next station/interchange to another line.that might be a good start for changes.standardized all the announcement for KJL and APL.

next maybe they can opt for terminus numbering like in singapore and hong kong. i find it easy for commuter to use, especially in the underground section where u can easily get confused which is ur left and right, southbound or northbound.I believe that the integrated KL rail map uses terminus lettering, A, B, C, etc. Better to have one system - it would be good if KTM Komuter can also start using alpha-numeric codes according to the lines

But for KTM Komuter I would use 5 sets of codes:

Core line (KL Sentral to Putra) say, C1 (KL Sentral) to C4 (Putra)
Sentul-Batu Caves subdivision say, B1 (Sentul) to B4 (Batu Caves
MidValley-Seremban subdivision say, S1 (MidValley) to S-whatever (Seremban)
Segambut-Tg. Malim Subdivision say, R1 (Segambut) to R-whatever (Tg. Malim)
Abdullah Hukum-Port Klang Subdivision, say, K1 (Abdullah Hukum/Angkasapuri) to K-whatever (Port Klang)

Also, I would add a code SA for Subang Airport

Cheers, m

mrtfreak

August 26th, 2009, 12:15 PM

^^ I'd simply go for two.

Rawang - Seremban as either Laluan Utara-Selatan, US.
Or simply kept as Laluan Rawang - Seremban, RS.

Pel. Klang - Sentul as either Laluan Timor-Barat, TB.
Or simply kept as Laluan Pel. Klang - Sentul, PS.

Then simply apply that to the entire line. Pel. Klang would be designated #1 since there aren't any likely future extensions that way. Tanjung Malim would therefore be #1 on the Rawang -Seremban line.

erwinkarim

August 26th, 2009, 12:55 PM

^^ The colours too... Like in Singapore, ppl usually refer to the NS Line (North-South) as the Red line. The EW Line (East-West) as the Green line. The NE Line (North-East) as the Purple line. The new CC Line (Circle) will be the yellow/orange line.

true, but why can't they use primary colors? this is light pink,light green and slightly dark green? not the colors that would be easy to see on a white paper.
and the greens between the SP and ML line is so close, it's difficult to differentiate quickly.

rizalhakim

September 1st, 2009, 05:59 AM

Sri Rampai LRT station update ~ 4 car trains to be running in October, station to be open shortly after that :)

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l100/davidm450/DSC_0172.jpg

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allurban

September 3rd, 2009, 11:36 AM

Someone asked me about the route of the Seri Petaling extension - this is the best that I could come up with. Accuracy not guaranteed.

http://transitmy.org/2009/09/03/route-of-sp-extension/

Cheers, m

Quiroz

September 3rd, 2009, 12:41 PM

I wish that Kuching will have The same one day...

rizalhakim

September 8th, 2009, 06:20 AM

RapidKL sedia pencuci kuman

KUALA LUMPUR 4 Sept. - Mengambil berat terhadap penularan wabak selesema babi (H1N1), Rangkaian Pengangkutan Integrasi Deras Sdn. Bhd. (RapidKL) telah menyediakan pembersih tangan nyah kuman bagi pengguna di semua 48 stesen Sistem Transit Aliran Ringan (LRT).

Pengurus Besar Komunikasi RapidKL, Ebi Azly Abdullah berkata penyediaan kemudahan itu adalah sebahagian usaha RapidKL untuk mengekang wabak itu daripada merebak.

"Kira-kira 350,000 penumpang LRT di Aliran Kelana Jaya dan Aliran Ampang kini boleh menggunakannya secara percuma, dan kemudahan ini disediakan di ruang khas di semua stesen LRT sehingga wabak H1N1 berjaya dikekang," katanya.

Sejak wabak itu menular, RapidKL telah melaksanakan penguatkuasaan pelan kesinambungan perniagaan untuk memastikan operasi tren dan bas tidak terjejas termasuk mewujudkan pasukan petugas dalaman khas untuk mengawasi status keseluruhan H1N1.

allurban

September 8th, 2009, 07:39 AM

I wish that Kuching will have The same one day...One day they will. Right now they are looking at consolidating bus routes and focusing on 3 "mainline" bus routes.

With the right amount of support, those "mainline bus routes" could be Bus Rapid Transit which will be a good place to start.

In future, BRT can be converted to LRT as passenger demands grow.

Cheers, m

TWK90

September 8th, 2009, 07:51 AM

http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIMES/articles/prabo/Article/

Funding for future rail lines in Klang Valley?

nazrey

September 8th, 2009, 11:26 PM

http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIMES/articles/prabo/Article/

Funding for future rail lines in Klang Valley?

Prasarana plans to sell as much as RM4 billion of Islamic bonds, known as sukuk, to raise funds for projects including rail line extensions, the person said in March.

Prasarana revamp exercise on track
By Marina Emmanuel Published: 2009/09/09

Rangkaian Pengangkutan Integrasi Deras Sdn Bhd (RapidKL) and its unit Rapid Penang Sdn Bhd have become wholly-owned subsidiaries of Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd, in a move to streamline current administrative procedures between the organisations, reduce duplication and overlapping of functions and cut costs.

Prasarana was reported to have begun its restructuring exercise in January this year, which saw RapidKL become a wholly-owned subsidiary on July 1 and Rapid Penang on September 1.

RapidKL and Prasarana formerly operated as separate companies, even though both are wholly-owned government companies under Minister of Finance Inc. Prasarana is the asset owner of the two light rail transit (LRT) systems and bus services in the Klang Valley, while RapidKL operates them.

Prasarana group communication general manager Ebi Azly Abdullah said the reorganisation has allowed Prasarana to implement integration policies efficiently and effectively.

"Prasarana can now execute the physical integration between RapidKL LRT and monorail stations in Kuala Lumpur," he told Business Times.

"For example, we might look at providing better linkage between the LRT Ampang Line and the KL Monorail at the Hang Tuah station," he added.

The company is also looking at improving connectivity between RapidKL bus services in the Klang Valley and the KL Monorail operations.

Asked if Prasarana is looking at healthier bottom lines for loss-making RapidKL and Rapid Penang, Ebi said: "Ensuring financial sustainability has always been Prasarana's aim, but at the same time we have to ensure that the level of service is met, as part of our efforts to achieve the government's National Key Result Area target, which is to increase public transport usage from 16 per cent to 25 per cent by 2012.

"With this objective in mind, Prasarana will continue to implement ideas and projects that can improve service levels for its subsidiaries."

Ebi also said that Prasa-rana group managing director (MD) Datuk Idrose Mohamed will continue to head the company under the new organisational structure and will become chairman of its subsidiaries.

"Rapid Penang will continue to operate as before, with the chief executive officer (Azhar Ahmad) reporting directly to the group MD of Prasarana. This is the same with KL StarRail Sdn Bhd (chief operating officer Khairani Mohamed)," he said. KL StarRail operates the KL Monorail system.

It is understood that RapidKL chief executive officer Suffian Baharuddin has been redesignated as group director responsible for strategic planning of Prasarana.

"The structural changes in Prasarana, RapidKL and Rapid Penang only involve the senior management level and will not affect the operational efficiency in any way.

"What is important is that there is no duplication of operations between Prasarana and RapidKL," Ebi said, adding that the group is maintaining its current staff number, estimated at some 5,500.

Stating that other appointments would be announced in due course, Ebi said more focus will be placed on operations from the Prasarana side, with the strengthening of certain areas at group level such as security and safety, as well as communications.

Prasarana has since evolved into a key government agency which oversees the infrastructure and operations of several transportation firms.

Both KL StarRail and Langkawi cable car service provider Panorama Lang-kawi Sdn Bhd are wholly-owned subsidiaries of Prasarana.

allurban

September 9th, 2009, 09:49 AM

"For example, we might look at providing better linkage between the LRT Ampang Line and the KL Monorail at the Hang Tuah station," he added.

The company is also looking at improving connectivity between RapidKL bus services in the Klang Valley and the KL Monorail operations.
Im slightly less scared as I was when I first heard about the revamp.

As for the monorail, I hope that in the long term they just build another monorail station, right at Hang Tuah. It is a people mover so closely spaced stations is ok and there will be more development in that areas anyways.

But Im not sure what they can do to improve bus & monorail connectivity that they arent already doing.

And when are they going to buy new carriages for the monorail? 4 carriage trains would help alot!

Cheers, m

nazrey

September 9th, 2009, 11:10 AM

From panaramio
Monorail track

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/15620103.jpg

nazrey

September 9th, 2009, 11:11 AM

From panaramio
This station still in use?

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/15620874.jpg

patchay

September 9th, 2009, 05:28 PM

Saya mau complain!!! (lol, at SSC sajerlah)

1. Apasal pintu tak bukak when sampai at Taman Bahagia station on Tuesday, about 6pm?

2. Saya baru start naik LRT tiap hari lah.... so agak hairan tiap pagi KJ Line packed like mad macam sardin? I also dont udstand when the queue was already waiting for another train how some ppl just jump queue and terus tolak orang kat pintu.

3. I heard KTM service is bad?

KelvinKoh

September 9th, 2009, 05:41 PM

I also dont udstand when the queue was already waiting for another train how some ppl just jump queue and terus tolak orang kat pintu.

:lol: then u just do nothing? well, let me share my experience...what i did before is this...i said to that girl (if guy i'm pretty scared nanti kena tumbuk :nuts:), "macam org kampung tak pernah naik LRT!!" loudly until she stared at me...da hell lah!

nazrey

September 9th, 2009, 07:15 PM

Pada tahun 2003 adalah tahun pertama yang sya datang ke KL...masa tu PUTRA, STAR, KTM Komuter tak ada banyak org naik (sya fikir org Malaysia memang banyak pandu Proton)....tapi pada tahun 2008 (5 tahun kemadian) adalah tahun terakhir yang sya datang...ORG NAIK SISTEM TRANSIT SEMUA TU TERTAMBAH BERKALI2 GANDA!!! PELIK SANGAT! LEBIH2 LAGI KTM KOMUTER ....SARDIN BETUL2! TAK SANGKA! TAK SANGKA! KENA TUNGGU LAMA PLAK...SIGH! Org datang dari mana?????? (mereka tak pandu kereta dah ke?)

Sya terkejut tengok KL monorail servis ...ada org kutuk pintu monorail dan bernyaring "masuk masuk" macam naik bus local...Aiyo..kampung betul :lol: kadang kala benda yang benar masti complain jugak!

tunomura

September 9th, 2009, 10:30 PM

Pada tahun 2003 adalah tahun pertama yang sya datang ke KL...masa tu PUTRA, STAR, KTM Komuter taka ada banyak org naik (sya fikir org Malaysia memang banyak pandu Proton)....tapi pada tahun 2008 (5 tahun kemadian) adalah tahun terakhir yang sya datang...ORG NAIK SISTEM TRANSIT SEMUA TU TERTAMBAH BERKALI2 GANDA!!! PELIK SANGAT! LEBIH2 LAGI KTM KOMUTER ....SARDIN BETUL2! TAK SANGKA! TAK SANGKA! KENA TUNGGU LAMA PLAK...SIGH! Org datang dari mana?????? (mereka tak pandu kereta dah ke?)

Sya terkejut tengok KL monorail servis ...ada org kutuk pintu monorail dan bernyaring "masuk masuk" macam naik bus local...Aiyo..kampung betul :lol: kadang kala benda yang benar masti complain jugak!

G please do sumthin...number of car on the road is not decrease but increased every months. Population of KL also increased and the result is "TIN SARDIN". What a planning!..next time if you build railway system, please build MRT not LRT!! JB must learn from KL worst...

Have you heard this...

Interstate Water Transfer To Meet Future Water Demand For Selangor And Wilayah Persekutuan Kuala Lumpur

Malaysia has experienced substantial economic development since the 1980s, resulting in increasing water demands in the commercial and industrial development centres. The Selangor / Kuala Lumpur region which is the political, commercial and industrial centre of the nation is the most important focus for these high demands which are expected to continue their rapid growth into the 21st century. However, the water resources available within the Selangor / Kuala Lumpur region will not be able to meet the demands in the near future.

A scheme to transfer water from Pahang to Selangor has been proposed to cope with future water demand shortfalls in Selangor, Kuala Lumpur region and at a later stage, the western part of Negeri Sembilan. Pahang State which lies to the east of Selangor State, possess ample water resources compared with their local demand and has sufficient reserve for interstate transfer.

Project Location

The Pahang – Selangor Raw Water Transfer Project is located in a central area of Peninsula Malaysia.
The Project is to convey raw water from the Semantan River through a transfer tunnel to the Selangor / Kuala Lumpur region for domestic and industrial uses to mitigate future water shortages.

Most of the urbanized areas of Selangor State and the federal territory of Kuala Lumpur receive domestic and industrial water from an integrated supply system with multiple water sources such as the Selangor, Semenyih, Klang Gate and Langat rivers.

http://www.kettha.gov.my/system/uploaded/Images/2007_watertransferplan.jpg (http://www.kettha.gov.my/system/uploaded/Images/2007_watertransferplan.jpg)

Project Concept

http://www.kettha.gov.my/system/uploaded/Images/2007_watertransfertunnel.jpg (http://www.kettha.gov.my/system/uploaded/Images/2007_watertransfertunnel.jpg)

The Project area in Pahang side is drained by a number of rivers, the principal ones being the Sg. Bentong, Sg. Telemong, and Sg. Kelau. Sg. Bentong is renamed as Sg. Semantan below the confluence with Sg. Kelau. The Project utilizes runoffs of these three rivers efficiently with provision of the reservoir in Sg. Kelau. The river flow including reservoir releases is abstracted at the intake in Sg. Semantan and is pumped up from the pumping station beside the intake to a connecting basin at the tunnel inlet through the pipeline.

The raw water from the connecting basin is transferred through the tunnel with gravity flow to an outlet connecting basin. The collected water is further distributed to receiving basins of a planned treatment plant through pipelines also with gravity flow. The outlet connecting basin and pipelines to the treatment plant will not be included in the Project but incorporated in the treatment works.

The implementation of the dam involves both environmental and social impacts and the project has been formulated based on a flexible project planning and design basis.
The Project will produce total reliable yield of 2259 Mld. The stage development plan with the associated treatment works has been established according to the water demand projection as follows:

Stage 1-1

Stage 1-2

Stage 2
The Project

SI + KD
(18.3 m3/s)

SI + KD
(18.3 m3/s)

SI + KD
(27.6 m3/s)
Treatment Works

1,000 Mld

1,500 Mld

2,260 Mld

Note: SI: Semantan Intake, KD: Kelau Dam, ( ): Pumping capacity

Project Component

(1) Water Transfer Tunnel

The functions of the water transfer tunnel are to collect water from the Semantan intake and to transfer the water to the treatment plant. The transfer tunnel is planned to be 44.6 km in length, including the inlet connecting basin, inlet conduit and outlet conduit.
The inlet connecting basin is located on the hill about 300 m from the Karak-Telemong road and the outlet conduit ends about 3.5 km north of the existing Sg. Langat treatment plant. The tunnel route passes through the main central mountain range which typically has elevations exceeding EL. 1,200 m.
The tunnel has a diameter of 5.2 m in sections excavated by TBM and a longitudinal slope of 1/1,900. The tunnel will operate under free flow conditions with a design discharge of 27.6 m3/s.
The transfer tunnel is directly connected to the treatment plant with pipelines maintaining gravity flow. Thus the outlet water level is set at EL. 61.2 m.
Bedrock along the tunnel consists of metamorphosed rocks of the Karak Formation for the initial 3.5 km from the inlet. The remaining portion is in granites. Tunnel excavation will primarily be made by Tunnel Boring Machine (TBM) for 35 km. The upper and lower ends will be excavated with the conventional New Austria Tunneling Method (NATM). Four adits are provided for construction of the tunnel, and hence three TBM cutting-faces and four conventional cutting-faces are planned.
The inlet and outlet conduits are designed as cut-and-cover type culverts of horseshoe shape with vertical walls. They will be 4.0 m in width and 4.7 m in height.

(2) Semantan Intake and Pumping Station

The Semantan intake and associated pumping station will abstract raw water discharging from the Sg. Bentong and Sg. Kelau, including releases from the Kelau and dam. The raw water will be pumped through the pipeline to the tunnel inlet. The intake is located on the Sg. Semantan, 1.5 km downstream from the confluence of the Sg. Bentong and Sg. Kelau.
The weir, which is planned as a concrete structure with sluice gates, will divert the maximum discharge of 27.6 m3/s to the pumping station located on the right bank. The intake structure consists of intake grid chamber (sand settling basins), common well, and suction tank before pumping station. Pumps are of the fixed speed, vertical split casing double entry centrifugal type. The arrangement of pump-sets in the final development is as follows:
3.20 m3/s x 2 units (1 unit for standby) and 3.05 m3/s x 10 units (2 units for standby)

(3) Pipeline

Two lanes of pipeline each with a diameter of 3.0 m are designed to convey raw water from the pumping station to the tunnel in Karak. The pipeline is approximately 11.8 km long. The pipe is designed largely to be below ground to minimize environmental and social impacts.
The route traverses the northern, left bank of the Sg. Bentong, passing through a disused rubber estate on the left bank where the terrain is undulating, and crosses the Sg. Bentong, the main highway, and Sg. Telemong.
Steel pipe with inside mortar lining is utilized. Where the pipeline crosses rivers, special pipes will be used across pipe beam bridges.

(4) Kelau Dam

The Kelau dam and associated reservoir will have an effective capacity of 299 million m3 for the storage of raw water. It will be located about 5 km upstream from the confluence of the Sg. Kelau and Sg. Bilut, at the site of a narrow gorge. The dam comprises a fill type dam, a spillway, and a river outlet with diversion facility.
Considering the availability of embankment materials, a homogeneous earth-fill dam 35 m in height with chimney drain is proposed. Foundation treatment with curtain grouting is planned for seepage control. Saddle dams are provided on the right bank ridge and reservoir rim where existing ground levels are below full supply level.
The spillway is located on the right bank. An ungated side channel type is proposed with sufficient capacity, in conjunction with flood storage in the reservoir, to discharge the Probable Maximum Flood.

A culvert used for river diversion during construction will be utilized as the outlet works. A draw-off tower is provided at the upstream end of the culvert.

I think should build tunnel bigger size to accomodate Pahang-Selangor KTM line through Titiwangsa mountainous and use piping inside the tunnel for water supply. How about that?

Lastresorter

September 10th, 2009, 05:58 AM

Saya mau complain!!! (lol, at SSC sajerlah)

2. Saya baru start naik LRT tiap hari lah.... so agak hairan tiap pagi KJ Line packed like mad macam sardin? I also dont udstand when the queue was already waiting for another train how some ppl just jump queue and terus tolak orang kat pintu.

Suggest you a solution:
You can just say loudly to those persons who jump queue, "excuse me, we have been patiently queueing up for this train. Please be fair to us." Others in the queue will follow suit and stare fiercely at the queue jumpers. The queue jumper might want to argue with you but not when they know they will offend others in the queue. Just that someone needs to take the lead. :lol: I've done it a few times in Singapore when people jump queue to flag taxi, or when people jump queue for ATMs. It works ;)

allurban

September 10th, 2009, 03:42 PM

From panaramio
This station still in use?

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/15620874.jpgThat is the Plaza Kerinchi or Kerinchi Square along the Kelana Jaya LRT line. The station (Kerinchi) is behind this building - and it is still in use.

Cheers, m

nazrey

September 10th, 2009, 04:53 PM

arief_malaysia96

September 11th, 2009, 05:18 AM

PENANG MONORAIL
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/7756/f01m315531f.jpg

nazrey

September 11th, 2009, 06:41 AM

Penang monorail tak akan bina lagi...Mereka mahu siap semua ni dulu >
The largest infra of Penang sekarang adalah
- Penang bridge expansion (6 lane) - Finish
- Penang 2nd bridge - U/C

Projek yang akan datang
- Penang Sentral

Projek belum tentu
- Penang International Airport expansion, LCCT
- Penang Outer Ring Road (PORR)

nazrey

September 11th, 2009, 06:45 AM

Bayangkanlah ..berepa lama lagi!?!!!

hafidz jon

September 11th, 2009, 10:17 AM

รถไฟฟ้า มาหานะเธอ

9f9CDwZIerQ

i found this at thai forum. this commercial is great. even i can't undertand thai language. overall, bravo BTS.:banana:

hope to see something like this commercial from our operator. ktm, rapid kl or even rapid penang.

nazrey

September 11th, 2009, 11:27 AM

i found this at thai forum. this commercial is great. even i can't undertand thai language. overall, bravo BTS.:banana:

hope to see something like this commercial from our operator. ktm, rapid kl or even rapid penang.

that is not TVC but it's trailer of the movie yang akan datang di pawangan 15 Oct 2009 !! :cheers:

nazrey

September 11th, 2009, 11:28 AM

VIP SERVICE

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hafidz jon

September 11th, 2009, 11:50 AM

that is not TVC but it's trailer of the movie yang akan datang di pawangan 15 Oct 2009 !! :cheers:

ah...no wonder the commercial is very long (3mins++):bash:

but how come the girl can enter the bts depot? is she broke into the depot? hahaah.....:lol:

i'm looking over this movie...if and only if there's english sub.

nazrey

September 11th, 2009, 12:05 PM

She ada boyfren yang jadi engineer kat BTS...so ada kat depot lah :)

arief_malaysia96

September 11th, 2009, 12:52 PM

nazrey

September 11th, 2009, 12:59 PM

sebab tu la kita kena kaji/learn projek itu datang dari mana dan bagaimana keadaan dulu baru nak banga...itu kenyataan yang bleh buat sedih di kadang kala

Bagaimanapun di Melaka ada projek aerorail!
Tengok kat sini > http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=588085&page=8

hafidz jon

September 11th, 2009, 01:06 PM

nazrey

September 11th, 2009, 01:18 PM

Kehendakan berwujud sistem transit di BANDAR memang masti letak sistem jadi teratur..bukan hanya bina untuk adanya saja!

Mereka kena kaji di kawasan mana di bina itu akan untung untuk melabur (invest) ...di kawasan mana akan ada intigrasi dengan sistem yang lain di masa depan..mereka perlu kaji keras..projek yang di gantung itu...memang ada isu-isu yang tak sesuai!

Kita org ingat di KL saja kah nak ada sistem transit..mungkin di bandar terbesar yang lain pada 10 tahun, 20, 30+ yang akan datang masti kena ada bukan hanya monorail...bahkan di putrajaya, projek monorail pun sudah sedia untuk meneruskan! tengok di Vietnam pula..mereka nak bermula bina sistem transit di Saigon (Ho Chi Minh City) ..check di forum mereka lah!

Bandar2 di Malaysia.. well organize among the region! Izinkan kejayaan berjalan dengan lancar >>>

hafidz jon

September 11th, 2009, 02:32 PM

bukan...maksud saya,kes di penang perlu kajian teliti.oleh pakar dalam bidang ekonomi,transportation,kerajaan,EPU,pihak swasta.....series of discussion is needed.takut nanti buat monorail,orang marah pulak sebab tiang letak kat ruang pejalan kaki (pedestrian walk).

bila dah ada kerjasama ni,baru boleh buat projek.itu pun kenalah buat open tender, so that we can get the best deal from the best provider. kalau tergesa-gesa,then everybody start to point fingers on others when something bad happen. look at our KJL overcrowded problem.

2nd.....monorail is too small. just look at kl monorail. who else in this world would want to make the tiny monorail as their core public transport? except kl and mumbai (mumbai also have mumbai metro isn't it?). we should learn from the past experience. don't make the same mistake again.

room for expansion that monorail have is very little. now they run with 2-car. at most this monorail can be expanded to 4-car (sutra type)..... but still, 4-car is not enough for future expansion. we need a mass transit to cater this thing.

i suggest that penang build something like bts in bangkok. it's has enough room for future expansion. now bts is run with 3-car. at most, the system can cater up to 6-car per train. this is what we should think for our proposed public transport... in this case, rail based transport.

i'm very keen to see penang will have a decent mass public transportation in future. same goes to other cities in malaysia.

nazrey

September 11th, 2009, 02:37 PM

Itu maksud awam...bukan nak bantah sesiapa :)

nazrey

September 11th, 2009, 02:48 PM

2nd.....monorail is too small. just look at kl monorail. who else in this world would want to make the tiny monorail as their core public transport? except kl and mumbai (mumbai also have mumbai metro isn't it?). we should learn from the past experience. don't make the same mistake again.

room for expansion that monorail have is very little. now they run with 2-car. at most this monorail can be expanded to 4-car (sutra type)..... but still, 4-car is not enough for future expansion. we need a mass transit to cater this thing.

Pertama kali..kita perlu ambil tahu tentang... "why monorail?"
di bandar macam KL mereka wujudkan projek monorail untuk jadi feeder menambah transit aliran yang lain saja macam rapid KL shuttle bus yang boleh jadi feeder passenger hantar kat tempat kecil atau sulit... monorail pun macam tu jugak..dan jarak jalan yang telah di bina di KL itu hanya kecil..suite for monorail saja...walaupun setengah tempat itu luas tapi akhirnya akan masuk ke lorong kecil juga...that's why monorail..

Jadi Monorail di KL tak boleh harap setaraf LRT atau MRT sebab mereka bina untuk menambah transit aliran yang lain bahkan service itu boleh jadi salah satu sistem transit aliran di bandaraya untuk kemudahan temui destinasi masing2

SATU KEBANGAAN IALAH KL MONORAIL ITU BUATAN MALAYSIA!!! SYABAS!

nazrey

September 11th, 2009, 03:13 PM

i suggest that penang build something like bts in bangkok. it's has enough room for future expansion. now bts is run with 3-car. at most, the system can cater up to 6-car per train. this is what we should think for our proposed public transport... in this case, rail based transport.

i'm very keen to see penang will have a decent mass public transportation in future. same goes to other cities in malaysia.

Sistem di Bangkok itu setaraf Singapore iaitu heavy rail yang boleh mangangkut org berjumlah banyak pada sesuatu masa! LRT (Ligh Rail Transit, Sistem Transit Aliran Ringan) hanya untuk bandar kecil dan org tak ramai macam KL...

Nak bina sistem transit perlu sesuai dengan bandar!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penang

Did you know berapa org penduduk di Penang ...about 1.5 juta org saja
kalau nak ada heavy rail...untung tak sebagai melaburan!!?!

Memang kes di KL..we must learn from the worst. itu pun bukan worst di sistem tapi alatnya dah tak cukup sebab menambahan org di bandar itu terCEPAT (Bus rapid KL pun hanya 1 buah untuk pergi-balik pada line yang sama). mereka dah buat benda yang betul dan kini sampai masa mereka kena ungkarkan masaalah itu...iaitu seperti menambah kereata (4 cars for former putra lrt) untuk satu perjalanan! sebenarnya the thing has begun lah untuk menyelesaikan sebagai masaalah!

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/hafizia/DSCN1976s.jpg

nazrey

September 11th, 2009, 03:31 PM

dari gmbira dh brtukar sedih................nmpknya xder la projek monorail ke2 di MALAYSIA...........

Ini adalah projek Putrajaya monorail

http://img82.echo.cx/img82/4488/mono8nz.jpg

http://img82.echo.cx/img82/2706/pjmonosus010gc.jpg

Projek ini telah di gantung becoz decision to revive the project came in light of the increasing number of residents, workers and tourists who now congregate to the country's administrative centre.
Projek ini akan meneruskan saja apabila penduduk di Putrajaya ramai pada ni!

Monorail suspension bridge

http://jpatokal.iki.fi/photo/travel/Malaysia/Putrajaya/Monorail_Bridge.JPG

Di Putrajaya Sentral (Western Transort Terminal, Precinct 7)

http://img493.imageshack.us/img493/6558/dscn47vq.jpg

http://img493.imageshack.us/img493/9408/dscn46361qv.jpg

http://img493.imageshack.us/img493/9792/dscn46339re.jpg

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/2201/dscn46579cf.jpg

http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/2869/dscn46483od.jpg

Learn more > http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=40475266

hafidz jon

September 11th, 2009, 04:42 PM

that's y
quick solution= double decker (easy,cheaper,no construction, faster implementation)
long solution= komuter (starting from 2013 = completion of double tracking)
future expansion= planning for future transport (maybe 2030 onward), heavy rail like bts.

i know that penang has only 1.5mil resident, now. that's y we need to plan the pt gradually. to cater for now and the future. in future, more people will commute to penang to work.

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kl maybe less population compared to bangkok. but klang valley for sure have a greater number of people to justify the need of pt that more than monorail. fortunately the gov announce about the new line (kota damansara-cheras) and the 4-car train for kjl, extention of kjl and apl. (sadly nothing from monorail,no plan to convert to 4-car monorail)

nazrey

September 11th, 2009, 05:37 PM

KL
Awak tahu tak kenapa KL tak wujud heavy rail...ya less popultaion dan isu untungan dewan ...
- kalau mereka wujud heavy rail semasa sukan komanwel pada tahun 98 itu, di masa yang akan datang tak akan untung sebab less population....habis ...rugi plak ..masih ingat tak masa tu STAR LRT rugi banyak sedangkan itu LRT (penduduk KL hanya 2 juta)...nak wujud sistem itu kena fikir untungan pada short term dan long term..For KL pada short term pun mereka tak ada untungan sampai SPNB (Syarikat Prasarana Negara Berhad) took over in 2003

KL-LRT1(1998)-Rugi(short term)-LRT2(2001)-Took Over(LRT1+LRT2=rapidKL)-4cars(long term)-extension-OK
New line itu new idea...mereka memang dalam kajian keras...oh ya izinkan kejayaan berjalan dengan lancar!

Pinang
Kalau pinang wujud heavy rail selalu...pertama kali harga letakan sistem itu memang tinggi gilerr (lebih2 lagi masa ni) ..awak ingat pinang ada bayaran wang itu tak? dan adakah itu jadi untungan di short term. Pada kes di KL pada short term pun mereka tak berjaya sampai ada syarikat took over ..dan awak mahu jadi macam tu tak?

Pinang-Heavy rail-Rugi(short term)+nak kena took over tak?
pada short term pinang tentu akan rugi dan tak akan boleh menerus dengan sendiri ...

Perlu jadi macam ni >

Pinang-rapid penang-monorail phaseI(short term)-monorail phaseII(long term)-OK

That's why penang never got a plan for heavy rail like Bangkok or Singapore :cheers:

hafidz jon

September 11th, 2009, 06:41 PM

Pinang-Heavy rail-Rugi(short term)+nak kena took over tak?
pada short term pinang tentu akan rugi dan tak akan boleh menerus dengan sendiri ...

eh,u ingat i ckp pasal heavy rail tu for short term ke? that's for long term la.

that's y
quick solution= double decker (easy,cheaper,no construction, faster implementation)
long solution= komuter (starting from 2013 = completion of double tracking)
future expansion= planning for future transport (maybe 2030 onward), heavy rail like bts.

sebab itu saya kasi 3 peringkat. kalau tak nak terima takpe la. it just my imagination.:lol:

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kl jadi macam tu kan ke sebab kegagalan penswastaan? sebab tu gov beli semula dan buat semula penstrukturan di bawah ministry of finance (prasarana)

kalau penang tu nak buat monorail ke, heavy rail ke (except komuter), dah sah-sah la prasarana yang akan jadi pemilik semua aset tu. maka segala untung rugi ditanggung kerajaan. melainkan mereka nak buat company swasta macam dulu lagi.

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oh,saya cadang ikut BTS sebab BTS beroperasi hanya separuh daripada kapasiti maksimumnya yang boleh digandakan bila ada peningkatan penggunaan di masa hadapan. jadi kalau ridership sikit, guna 2 atau 3-car. but still, in future boleh panjangkan sampai 6-car. or maybe sampai 8-car macam mtr hong kong. itu maksud saya.

di kl..... putra, lepas 4-car dah tak boleh panjangkan lagi (platform pendek,bombardier ART takde train lebih panjang daripada 4-car). kalau nak kata kl takde populasi yang besar, kerajaan takkan keluarkan idea mrt untuk kota damansara-cheras line. sebab mereka tahu, line ini akan melalui kawasan berkepadatan penduduk tinggi.

let say 30000 pphpd, 18 jam sehari.kapasiti train untuk satu hari adalah 540000 penumpang. kl lebih dari cukup untuk ridership sebanyak 540000 sehari.

lagipun, kapasiti BTS tak la sampai 4-5 juta untuk cater penduduk bangkok. dalam 400000++ sahaja dalam sehari (info (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BTS_Skytrain))

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again,this is just my imagination. cheers.

nazrey

September 11th, 2009, 06:49 PM

eh,u ingat i ckp pasal heavy rail tu for short term ke? that's for long term la.

OK lah! itu isu masa depan ..:lol:
Ini adalah hakikat >>
Di hakikatnya belum nak sampai kat Long Term itu perlu berjaya di short term dulu (itu adalah keperluan perbuatan dewan sebagai untungan untuk menguruskan selanjutnya kalau tak untung di short term ini, mereka tak boleh mngurus pada long term)..

nazrey

September 11th, 2009, 07:09 PM

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kl maybe less population compared to bangkok. but klang valley for sure have a greater number of people to justify the need of pt that more than monorail. fortunately the gov announce about the new line (kota damansara-cheras) and the 4-car train for kjl, extention of kjl and apl. (sadly nothing from monorail,no plan to convert to 4-car monorail)

KL monorail itu hanya menjadi feeder menambah sistem transit yang lain je lah...bahkan tourist boleh sampai kat City Hotspot macam Bukit Bintang, BTS, (yang sistem lain sekarang tak boleh masuk), Titiwangsa, KL Sentral..of coz la monorail tak kan bertambah line dan convert to 4-car at least pada beberapa tahun ini walaupun perkara ni boleh buat sebegitu! :)

daeng_jal

September 11th, 2009, 08:29 PM

nazrey

September 11th, 2009, 08:35 PM

Prasarana raises RM2b from sukuk
Published: 2009/09/12

SYARIKAT Prasarana Negara Bhd, the state-owned public transport operator, has raised RM2 billion from an Islamic bond sale, which saw strong demand from investors.

Bond investors offered RM6.6 billion to Prasarana, reflecting the strong demand for the papers, which were guaranteed by the federal government.

"The over-subscription of this issue demonstrates strong investor appetite and ample liquidity in the market for high grade papers," said Prasarana chairman Tan Sri Izzudin Dali in a statement yesterday.

Prasarana did not say what the money was for but it has been reported that the group plans to extend its light rail transit (LRT) lines in Kuala Lumpur.

This is the second time that Prasarana, parent for RapidKL, RapidPenang and KL Star Rail, has raised funds from an Islamic bond sale.

The RM2 billion issue matures in 15 and 20 years. The 15-year tranche of RM500 million carries a semi-annual profit rate of 4.85 per cent per year, while the 20-year portion of RM1.5 billion has a rate of 5.07 per cent.

Investors who participated in the deal included insurance companies, fund managers and financial institutions, Prasarana said.

The sukuk issue was based on the Syariah principle of Ijarah which entails a sale and leaseback of Prasarana's assets.

During the tenure of the sukuk, Prasarana will pay rentals to the investors and upon maturity, the company will buy the assets back.

CIMB Investment Bank Bhd and Maybank Investment Bank Bhd are the joint lead arrangers and managers for the sukuk issue.

Prasarana was set up as part of an effort to revamp the public transport system in Kuala Lumpur and its surrounding areas

Dr Jake

September 13th, 2009, 09:21 AM

^^^^
I could speculate that Prasarana will open the LRT tender this coming Oct. And the detailed plan for Kota Damansara-Cheras Line might be revealed anytime soon. Yay.:)

allurban

September 14th, 2009, 05:38 AM

^^^^
I could speculate that Prasarana will open the LRT tender this coming Oct. And the detailed plan for Kota Damansara-Cheras Line might be revealed anytime soon. Yay.:)Check this out, just posted on the TRANSIT website: Public notice filed for Kelana Jaya Line extension (http://transitmy.org/2009/09/14/public-notice-filed-kjl/)

TRANSIT takes note that the public notice for the extension of the Kelana Jaya LRT Line (LRT2 KL) from Kelana Jaya to Putra Heights has been filed and an announcement has been made public.

A scanned copy of the announcement is here, with a summary of the announcement posted below.

TRANSIT will be following the public display as well as looking at some of the controversies related to the planning of the LRT and the public display over the next few days. We invite your comments and feedback on the construction of the LRT Line extension and hope that these comments will also be shared directly with the Malaysian Government, Selangor Government, Department of Railways and Prasarana as well.

You may also be interested in reading earlier postings about the extension, which are copied below:

Proposed Extension of Kelana Jaya line (NOT finalized)
25th July 2009 – Dialogue on Extension of Kelana Jaya LRT line to Subang Jaya, USJ & Putra Heights
Press Conference by residents of Putra Heights regarding LRT extension
LRT: Satu Lagi Projek Barisan Nasional?
Project Announcement
Syarikat Prasarana Negara Berhad hereby announces that it plans to extend the existing Kelana Jaya Line from its Kelana Jaya Station to Putra Heights, a total length of 17km. In accordance with Section 8 of the Railways Act 1991, the following documents have been submitted to the Department of Railways, for the purpose of Public Inspection:

a) Route plan, elevation views and sections, details of the route alignment, stations, car-parks, rolling stock and other related items.

b) Book of Reference which contains the names of the proprietors and lessees of the lands required for the project.

Place and Duration for Public Display
The above documents will be displayed for the purpose of Public Inspection from 15 September 2009 to 14 December 2009 at the
following locations:

Majlis Perbandaran Subang Jaya
Levell, Persiaran Perpaduan USJ5
47610 SUBANG JAYA
SELANGOR DARUL EHSAN
Tel: 03-80263131

Majlis Bandaraya Petaling Jaya
Lobi Menara MBPJ
Jalan Tengah
46200 PETALING JAYA
SELANGOR DARUL EHSAN
Tel: 03-79545984

Majlis Bandaraya Shah Alam
Ground Floor Lobby A Wisma MBSA
Persiaran Perbandaran
40000 SHAH ALAM
SELANGOR DARUL EHSAN
Tel: 03-55105133

Dewan Bandaraya Kuala Lumpur
Menara DBKL 2
Jalan Raja Laut
50350 KUALA LUMPUR
Tel: 03·26179000

Department of Railways
13th Floor, Menara Dayabumi
Jalan Sultan Hishamuddin
50050, KUALA LUMPUR
Tel: 03-22781222

The display will be held during normal office hours i.e. 09:00 to 17:00 from Mondays to Fridays (except public holidays).

The public may also inspect the project proposal at the website of the Department of Railways – www.dor.gov.my (http://www.dor.gov.my)

Brief Description of the Project
The project, amongst others, involves the construction of tracks and stations, carparks, purchasing of new fully automated train-sets, signalling system including Automatic Train Protection System, communications system, power supply system and Automatic Fare Collection System.

Invitation to Inspect
Syarikat Praserana Negara Berhad hereby invites all parties and members of the public to inspect the above·said plans, sections and the Book of Reference and all comments or objections to the project must be submitted in writing to the Director General of the Department of Railways at the above address on or before 14 December 2009.
Cheers, m

Dr Jake

September 14th, 2009, 06:14 AM

^^^^
Kan dah cakap dah. :)

allurban

September 14th, 2009, 07:11 AM

y need monorail? it just people mover, low capacity, bumpy ride.

i think we should opt for double decker bus. singapore have this kind of bus. it can carry more people. no need for billion of ringgit to construct such a complicated system. easy and faster solution for public transport.

and of course, the komuter utara. they should start to plan this line because the double tracking will be done in 2013. so that, people can use the komuter on that newly double track.Double tracking & electrification around Penang should be done earlier than 2013 ... we should find out when the project anticipates getting to Sg. Petani...as soon as the double tracking is complete they can start to offer Komuter Utara.

Consider the improvement to KTM service with the Ipoh-KL shuttle trains...we do not need to wait for electrification to have good komuter service.

Cheers, m

allurban

September 14th, 2009, 07:19 AM

The station in use but the plaza kerinchi (Plaza Pantai)??? in use?

http://my.pagenation.com/map/image.php?id=453&z=1

http://www.malaxi.com/kuala_lumpur/images/kerinchi_entrance.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2258/2202676751_841f8b2628.jpgOh...yes, I believe it is still being used with some offices and a few restaurants.

Never been inside tho but Ive seen it from the Federal Highway side when i take the bus into KL.

Kind of a depressing project when compared to the other developments around it........

Cheers, m

hafidz jon

September 14th, 2009, 10:22 AM

Oh...yes, I believe it is still being used with some offices and a few restaurants.

Never been inside tho but Ive seen it from the Federal Highway side when i take the bus into KL.

Kind of a depressing project when compared to the other developments around it........

Cheers, m

kerinchi station for sure still in use.... and it's one of the popular station during morning peak hours. no one (or rarely) board train from this station, but there are many white collar worker alight at this station to get to their office such as TM tower.

it may look ugly from outside, unused or anything. but the truth is many people use this station, during weekdays (dunno about weekend).

the most deserted station is abdullah hukum. i rarely see people board/alight at this station. i maybe wrong, but that's from my experience taking LRT everyday for 2 months (end to end).

nazrey

September 14th, 2009, 10:26 AM

abdullah hukum station got a plan to connect with Mid Valley city too!!! :cheers:

nazrey

September 14th, 2009, 10:37 AM

hafidz jon

September 14th, 2009, 10:42 AM

I saw latest in 2008 plaza kerinchi (Plaza Pantai) di situ tak beroperasi di kemuka jalanan LRT hinga sampai ke stesen...It's kosong btw!

oh, u're talking about the plaza kerinchi. my bad.... i thought it's about the kerinchi station:bash:

abdullah hukum station got a plan to connect with Mid Valley city too!!! :cheers:

oh, that's a great news!!!!:banana:

could u give any reliable sources? newspaper maybe.

rizalhakim

September 14th, 2009, 10:43 AM

I saw latest in 2008 plaza kerinchi (Plaza Pantai) di situ tak beroperasi di kemuka jalanan LRT hinga sampai ke stesen...It's kosong btw!

^^masih pakai...mostly by pekerja2 di Telekom Tower & plaza pantai ....

nazrey

September 14th, 2009, 12:42 PM

oh, that's a great news!!!!:banana:

could u give any reliable sources? newspaper maybe.

Walking experience: A step up for pedestrians
2007/07/30 By : MOAZ YUSUF AHMAD, Subang Jaya, Selangor
NewStraitTimes

I WAS excited to read about the planned improvements to the walking experience in Kuala Lumpur ("Walking in KL will be a breeze" — NST, July 23).

It is wonderful that the Kuala Lumpur City Hall and private companies recognise that people still enjoy walking.

Improvements to the pedestrian experience will make more people confident in stepping out on their own.

More workers will also be drawn to the lively streets. Then there are tourists. It is likely that KL will see a large number of foreigners and even residents from suburbs such as Shah Alam.

Most importantly, it is good to see that the pedestrian bridge linking Mid Valley City to Pantai Dalam and Kampung Abdullah Hukum will finally be built.

The project was supposed to be a pedestrian connection as well as a public transit link, allowing LRT users to have faster access to the Mid Valley complex, as well as connect the monorail to the LRT.

Sadly, the monorail has not been extended to Mid Valley. Fortunately, the bridge will provide a link to the LRT station, which will improve public transit access to the mall, as well as reduce pressure on the Mid Valley and KL Sentral Komuter stations.

Keretapi Tanah Melayu Bhd should also consider accelerating the construction of the proposed Abdullah Hukum Komuter station. The transit interchange will be valuable to KTMB and LRT passengers, reduce traffic, and reduce platform congestion at KL Sentral.

I hope the management of Mid Valley will contribute to the construction of the Komuter station so it can be built sooner.

Of course, building well-lit and covered walkways are only the start. Efforts must be made to make sure the bridge is safe for pedestrians and does not become an area for crime.

Skybridge plan to mall lauded
Monday July 30, 2007
By BAVANI M.
Photos by SAMUEL ONG

http://thestar.com.my/archives/2007/7/30/central/map.jpg

THE mayor of Kuala Lumpur's recent announcement to build a modern skybridge linking Abdullah Hukum’s light rail transit station in Bangsar to the Mid Valley Megamall as a means to ease congestion seems like a noble idea, yet transport and town planners say the whole structure of the station must be re-designed for this to work. Experts also say that Kuala Lumpur City Hall should look at the big picture and consider integrating a transit hub in the area if there is ever a hope of seeing city folks opting to use public transport to work.

IMAGINE a transit hub - something akin to Kuala Lumpur Sentral only much smaller in scale that would serve as a link to Mid Valley Megamall, KL Sentral and other parts of the city in Kampong Haji Abdullah Hukum near Pantai Dalam?

Apart from the LRT station, there should also be a second KTM line and probably even Monorail with facilities like a bus bay and car park for the public to park their vehicles and take the train.

Having an integrated system like this would be a much better bet for DBKL to fight congestion and persuade the public to opt for public transport when coming to work into the city.

Private traffic consultant Goh Bok Yen commended the mayor for proposing the Skybridge project to link the Abdullah Hukum LRT station to Mid Valley Megamall but said that it must be carried out with much thought and research.

Goh said the concept of linking the station and the mall with a 300m bridge was a good one, but it would only work if the station were able to take in the capacity of the crowd - or else it needs to be re-designed as the current capacity for the station is inadequate.

“Firstly you need a suitable location that is big enough to be a landing gateway to handle a big crowd and Abdullah Hukum is not big enough for that,” he said, adding that it must be expanded to handle a big volume.

Goh said without proper research, the bridge would be just another inlet for LRT users.

“And would people want to go to the mall and return via the bridge with a bag full of groceries from Carrefour and then take the LRT?,” he asked, before saying that he didn’t think so.

Goh also said that for the Skybridge project to work, a certain volume of pedestrian was needed.

For a 300m bridge to be pedestrian friendly it must have a width of more than 5m - anything less just won’t do.

“Anything more than 250m must be pedestrian-friendly. In other words it must have escalators, be air-conditioned and have enough retail activity along the way to give it that indoor feeling. Don’t build something that serves no purpose,” he said.

Which is why Goh said that it was important for DBKL to look at the big picture and think long term by balancing up the project by integrating it with transit hub in Abdullah Hukum to ease congestion in the city.

Town Planning expert Professor Dr Kamaruzzaman Ujang who is working with DBKL on the Skybridge project said that the main idea of the bridge to link the mall to the LRT station was to ease congestion and create a congestion-free KL by 2020.

“Our discussion is clear that for the bridge to work it must be smooth flowing, air-conditioned and it must be convenient. As for the transit hub - it may work but it must be planned well. We don't want a situation where the area becomes a congestion nightmare in 10 years.

Retail executive R. Malani, who lives in Kelana Jaya and works in Mid Valley, said the Skybridge project sounded like a good idea and that she would not mind using it to get to her workplace.

“But it would be better if there were proper parking bays for me to park my car at the station (Abdullah Hukum) and then I can take the Skybridge to work,'' she said.

“In Kuala Lumpur, the LRT and Monorail system are not designed for park and ride and it's a pity because for a system to truly work it should be integrated - or else why bother doing it,'' said Goh.

nazrey

September 14th, 2009, 12:43 PM

Abdullah Hukum station (Kelana Jaya Line)
From wikimedia

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/Abdullah_Hukum_station_(Kelana_Jaya_Line)_(exterior_2)%2C_Kuala_Lumpur.jpg/800px-Abdullah_Hukum_station_(Kelana_Jaya_Line)_(exterior_2)%2C_Kuala_Lumpur.jpg

tunomura

September 14th, 2009, 03:54 PM

Klang Valley future rail work project....Just look into my magic bowl

Ampang & KJ Extension (2010-2013)
|
Sg Buloh-Cheras Line and (2011-2015)
|
KTM Komuter Outer Ring Line (2012-2016)
Kuang-Klang Bypass for KTM Cargo (2012-2016)
KL Monorail Extension to Sunway (2012-2015)
Ampang Line extension to Selayang (2012-2015)
|
KL-JB High Speed Rail (2018-2023)
Kajang-Kuantan Komuter Line ~it will include 43km tunnel through Titiwangsa :crazy2:~(2015-2025)

...then, how Malaysia gonna be after that...

nazrey

September 14th, 2009, 04:16 PM

Rasanya di Sg Buloh akan wujud brand new stesen intigrasi macam KL Sentral..correct me if I'm wrong!?!

tunomura

September 14th, 2009, 04:35 PM

Rasanya di Sg Buloh akan wujud brand new stesen intigrasi macam KL Sentral..correct me if I'm wrong!?!

I don't think so..Maybe it will be just like Bandar Tasik Selatan Intergated Station..but why not they build just KL Sentral...:2cents:

nazrey

September 14th, 2009, 11:19 PM

Strategic Location: Sungai Buloh
SPNB Identifying Suitable Site For Integrated Transport Terminal
September 04, 2008 19:11 PM

KUALA LUMPUR, Sept 4 (Bernama) -- Syarikat Prasarana Negara Berhad (SPNB), which owns the assets of two light rail transit lines (LRT), LRT-STAR and LRT-PUTRA, is now determining a suitable and strategic location to build an integrated inter-city transport terminal for the north of the peninsular from the federal capital.

Its Chief Executive Officer, Shaipudin Shah Harun, said the location would most likely be in Damansara or Sungai Buloh where it would be connected to another new LRT station and expected the terminal to be up and running by 2014.

The completed terminal would be able to cater to 130 taxis and 100 buses, he told a press conference here Thursday.

He also said the new LRT line from Kota Damansara to Cheras, measuring 42km, would be upgraded to a Mass Rapid Transit (MRT) system because of high population density.

"We estimate more than 500,000 commuters a day in that area and an MRT system is more suitable compared to the LRT because it can accomodate more users at a time, but the system needs to be studied thoroughly first," he said.

allurban

September 15th, 2009, 07:58 AM

nazrey

September 15th, 2009, 11:41 PM

Transport Ministry To Increase Public Transport Usage To 25 Pct By 2015
September 15, 2009 16:35 PM

SEPANG, Sept 15 (Bernama) -- The Transport Ministry aims to increase the usage of public transport to 25 per cent by 2015 from the 16 per cent currently, in a bid to reduce road traffic.

Its Deputy Minister Datuk Abdul Rahim Bakri said at present, there were more than 18 million vehicles on the road nationwide, causing traffic jams especially during the festive season.

"The Ministry intends to increase the public transport capacity in the hope of reducing congestion on roads, especially during the festive season and also to reduce carbon emission," he said after launching Express Rail Link Sdn Bhd's (ERL) "KLIA Transit to LCCT" service here Tuesday.

He said more than eight million vehicles are expected to be on the roads during this Hari Raya festival.

Commenting on the proposed Ampang Line LRT extension from the Sri Petaling station-Putra Heights by Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd, Abdul Rahim said it was part of the government plan to enhance current rail services in the country to other destinations as well.

"It is also to encourage people to use public transport rather than private cars," he added.

The proposed LRT extension will pass through the Kinrara and Puchong areas before ending at Putra Heights, a distance of 17.7 km with 13 new stations.

"The railway in Malaysia has evolved as the backbone of the public transportation network.Rail operators have done much to establish this," he said.

Earlier, Abdul Rahim and ERL chief executive officer Noormah Mohd Noor officiated the new service.

Passengers heading to the Low Cost Carrier Terminal (LCCT) may now board the KLIA Transit fast train from KL Sentral to Salak Tinggi and be ferried directly to the LCCT on a dedicated shuttle coach.

The new service, Noormah said, is expected to increase passengers on the ERL by 10 per cent by the end of this year.

She disclosed that at present, about 7,000 passengers used the KLIA transit everyday.

-- BERNAMA

allurban

September 16th, 2009, 08:08 AM

after launching Express Rail Link Sdn Bhd's (ERL) "KLIA Transit to LCCT" service here Tuesday.

....

Passengers heading to the Low Cost Carrier Terminal (LCCT) may now board the KLIA Transit fast train from KL Sentral to Salak Tinggi and be ferried directly to the LCCT on a dedicated shuttle coach.

The new service, Noormah said, is expected to increase passengers on the ERL by 10 per cent by the end of this year.

She disclosed that at present, about 7,000 passengers used the KLIA transit everyday.

-- BERNAMA

From KLIA Express Sdn. Bhd.

http://www.kliaekspres.com/erlsb/Portals/0/Images/LCCT/lcct_main.gif

and

1. The "KLIA Transit to LCCT" transfer is a combination of a KLIA Transit train trip and shuttle bus trip. The shuttle bus operates non-stop between Salak Tinggi station & Low Cost Carrier Terminal (LCCT).
2.The KLIA Transit train connects with the shuttle bus at Salak Tinggi station.
3.Shuttle bus trip is only available for passengers who purchase the "KLIA Transit to LCCT" transfer only, and is not for sale or use separately.
4.Upon purchase, each passenger will be given one KLIA Transit train ticket & one shuttle bus ticket. Each ticket is for one person, one way.

etc.

Allen2

September 16th, 2009, 07:45 PM

this looks great:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2258/2202676751_841f8b2628.jpg

rizalhakim

September 17th, 2009, 04:36 AM

Commuter confusion on LRT
By CHOONG MEK ZHIN

THERE was a lot of confusion for hundreds of commuters who took Light Rail Transit (LRT) trains from Ampang and Sri Petaling heading into the city yesterday morning as they were left stranded at the Chan Sow Lin station.

Richard Nair, 56, who works in a legal firm said that he arrived at the Maluri station yesterday morning to find the station more packed than usual.

“I had to wait until the third train into town before I could board as even the trains were unusually full,” Richard said.

http://thestar.com.my/archives/2009/9/17/central/m_04lrt.jpg
Quick fix: RapidKL employees working hard to fix the vehicle.

Sharon Sasha, who was taking a train from Sri Petaling, did not notice anything out of the ordinary until she went to the counter to purchase her ticket.

“When I went to the counter at about 8am to buy my ticket, I was informed that I could only go as far as the Bandaraya station but they did not say why,” Sharon, 30, said.

Both trains stopped at Chan Sow Lin and left the passengers on the already packed platforms and it was not easy to get out due to the crowd and the lack of proper instructions.

Richard said he was told that there were no extra feeder buses stationed at the congested station.

“No compensation was offered either even though they checked everyone’s tickets as they left the station,” Richard said.

http://thestar.com.my/archives/2009/9/17/central/m_04lrt1.jpg
Chaotic situation: Many commuters were stuck in the Chan Sow Lin station as the crowd made it hard to get off the platform.

He added that as he was walking towards Puduraya, he noticed a steady stream of people walking along with him.

Sharon, however, managed to get return trip coupons that station personnel were handing out at a counter she passed on her way out of the station.

Both had no idea what had caused the delay.

Joel Chong, 20, a student, took the train from Ampang and arrived at the Bandaraya station at about 10.30am. He said he had heard an announcement saying that the trains were delayed.

“The trains stopped longer than usual at the stations and sometimes slowed down while moving but other than that, nothing out of the ordinary happened,” said Chong, whose train ride took him past the Chan Sow Lin station.

People who travelled in the opposite direction from Sentul Timur fared no better.

“Everyone, regardless of which direction they wanted to travel, had to take the train from a single platform because only one train was in service on one side of the tracks,” Wendy Rogers, 60, a guest teacher who took the train from PWTC until Bandaraya said.

RapidKL says shuttle trains were provided
RAPIDKL group communications general manager Ebi Azly Abdullah said in a statement that the RapidKL Ampang Line LRT service had suffered a major service disruption yesterday between the Sultan Ismail and Sentul Timur stations.

The disruption, which began at 6am, was caused by the breakdown of a track maintenance vehicle between the PWTC and Titiwangsa stations.

To help commuters reach their destinations, RapidKL arranged for shuttle trains from Chan Sow Lin to Bandaraya and Sri Petaling/Ampang to Chan Sow Lin.

Feeder bus services were also provided to help ferry passengers from Bandaraya to the Sentul Timur station.

At 8.40am, service between Sri Petaling/Ampang and Sultan Ismail was back to normal.

However, passengers were still being ferried from Sultan Ismail to Sentul Timur at that time.

Services on the Ampang Line LRT resumed normal operations at 11.04am.

lohxy

September 17th, 2009, 01:51 PM

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/179/386385140_57905c8d02_o.jpg

The terminal is new or old?

allurban

September 18th, 2009, 05:22 AM

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/179/386385140_57905c8d02_o.jpg

The terminal is new or old?that is an old photo plus the roundabout is actually on the south side.

Cheers, m

Dr Jake

September 21st, 2009, 07:11 AM

I'm hoping that the name for our rapid transit will be changed to RapidKL Metro. RapidKL LRT sounds too cheap and looks Singaporean sgt sgt. This new line will utilize MRT rolling stocks. Let's generalize these LRT and MRT into Metro. Just my 2 cent thought jer.

I've been doing some reading on global rapid transit and I do really think that we should change RapidKL LRT name. LRT and MRT cause a lot of confusion among us. Let use a generic name that reflect our KL rapid transit k.

RapidKL Rail
RapidKL Metro
RapidKL Subway
RapidKL Underground
RapidKL Transit
RapidKL Bawah Tanah (komersial giler name ni)

I mean seriously, the name should be changed. RapidKL is obviously should be kept because of it's originality.:)

allurban

September 22nd, 2009, 09:49 AM

I've been doing some reading on global rapid transit and I do really think that we should change RapidKL LRT name. LRT and MRT cause a lot of confusion among us. Let use a generic name that reflect our KL rapid transit k.

RapidKL Rail
RapidKL Metro
RapidKL Subway
RapidKL Underground
RapidKL Transit
RapidKL Bawah Tanah (komersial giler name ni)

I mean seriously, the name should be changed. RapidKL is obviously should be kept because of it's originality.:)How about TRaK - Tren Rapid KL?

As the Londoners use 'tube' for underground trains and Americans use "el" for elevated trains, Malaysians can use TRaK

problem is when you get to Penang ... TRaP?

Cheers, m

Dr Jake

September 22nd, 2009, 10:34 AM

LRT was never an appropriate term - 'mini-metro' or 'light metro' is more appropriate given the design and engineering required.

However, 'Metro' is not a term that Malaysians are familiar with, and 'MRT' will be seen as copying Singapore (good & bad connotations). Whatever Rapid & Prasarana change the name to, people will still call it the "LRT"... they still call the lines "Star" and "putra" even though those names changed long ago (and will change soon).....

Subway is an underground walkway in UK English so I don't think it is appropriate for a mostly elevated system.

Probably RapidKL will adopt the MRT term for the main LRT lines and LRT for the other lines (monorails, people movers).

Also consider that the official designation has to be changed with the Department of Railways ... that means new regulations, new certificates, etc.

Cheers, m

Well then let's make a poll on how the new name would be like. We could propose this new name to RapidKL and DOR. As for me, METRO could represent all the rapid transit network in KL regardless whether it's LRT or MRT (this include the future KCL and other loop networks as well). :cheers:

Dr Jake

September 22nd, 2009, 10:36 AM

How about TRaK - Tren Rapid KL?

As the Londoners use 'tube' for underground trains and Americans use "el" for elevated trains, Malaysians can use TRaK

problem is when you get to Penang ... TRaP?

Cheers, m

But it sounds cheesy and a bit crappy to me. :lol::lol::lol:

allurban

September 24th, 2009, 07:46 AM

But it sounds cheesy and a bit crappy to me. :lol::lol::lol:hahahha only your opinion. Lots of cheesy & crappy names in Malaysian NGO and GOs...Star, Putra, Pemandu, Makna, Asli, Puspakom?

Cheers, m

nazrey

September 24th, 2009, 03:41 PM

RapidKL LRT tickets, passes and electronic payment system
RapidPass

http://www.rapidkl.com.my/images/stories/rpp_rm100_lrt.gif

http://www.rapidkl.com.my/images/stories/rpp_rm150.gif

Rapidpass on sale from today
2009/09/24

PETALING JAYA: Rangkaian Pengangkutan Integrasi Deras Sdn Bhd (RapidKL) will be selling the new monthly pass or rapidpass, beginning today.

The rapidpass offers travel discounts of up to 50 per cent a month compared to buying the tickets each time a commuter boards a RapidKL bus.

It will be available at all RapidKL's 48 LRT stations.

The rapidpass is also available at the following RapidKL hubs and bus depots: Jalan Sultan Mohamed bus ticket and information counter; Jalan Chow Kit; Jalan Silang; Titiwangsa; Maluri; Warta Lama; Putrajaya Sentral and KL Sentral bus hubs, and at the Pandan, Jalan Klang Lama and Chan Sow Lin bus depots.

RapidKL said the monthly pass was aimed at easing the financial burden of commuters following the recent change from the day fare system to the zonal fare system for its stage bus services in the Klang Valley.

For senior citizens who wish to obtain the Senior Citizens Pass (Pas Warga Emas), registration is accepted at the Jalan Sultan Mohamed bus ticket and information counter (Pasar Seni bus hub).

Registration services will also be opened at five other LRT stations, namely, Kelana Jaya, Gombak, Masjid Jamek (Kelana Jaya Line only), Ampang and Bandar Tasik Selatan, beginning today.

Senior Citizens Pass entitles passengers to a 50 per cent fare discount when boarding RapidKL's Bandar, Tempatan and Utama buses.

Documents needed to obtain the passes are one passport-sized coloured photograph and a copy of MyKad.

For details, call 03-7885 2585 from 7am to 8.30pm, Monday to Friday, and 8.30am to 5.30pm on Saturday and Sunday. You can also visit www.rapidkl.com.my or send an email to suggest@rapidkl.com.my.

Dr Jake

September 27th, 2009, 02:38 AM

RapidKL 2008 Statistisc

RapidKL Kelana Jaya Line: 58,168,337 mil
RapidKL Ampang Line: 51,009,480 mil
KL Monorail (I wonder if RapidKL is the "real" operater): 21,765,233 mil

That stupid RapidKL management doesn't even bother to publish this VITAL INFORMATION!!! I'm going to kick Eby and the gang until they're dead!!!!:bash:

rizalhakim

September 28th, 2009, 04:30 AM

LRT Putra Kelana Jaya-got new train today.... longer train....

patchay

September 28th, 2009, 04:50 AM

LRT Putra Kelana Jaya-got new train today.... longer train....

really? yahoooooo

Dr Jake

September 28th, 2009, 06:18 AM

It's about time. I heard only 4 to 6 sets are available in 4-cars configuration. The rest will roll out next year.

nazrey

September 28th, 2009, 06:45 AM

The old version of Putra LRT interior

http://www.railway-technology.com/projects/kuala_lumpur/images/kuala2.jpg

New 4 cars interior (From factory in Mexico)

http://portal.sre.gob.mx/malasia/images/stories/News/2009-03-12C.jpg

http://portal.sre.gob.mx/malasia/images/stories/News/2009-03-12B.jpg

rizalhakim

September 28th, 2009, 06:49 AM

^^yeap dat the new train i saw dis morning!!!!

Dr Jake

September 28th, 2009, 07:02 AM

Lucky You :)

allurban

September 28th, 2009, 07:55 AM

allurban

September 28th, 2009, 07:57 AM

LRT Putra Kelana Jaya-got new train today.... longer train....I heard that it was just being tested, was not carrying passengers.

Remember, someone did say that RapidKL would start operating the 4-carriage trains on the 29th - that is tomorrow.

Wonder if it is still according to plan?

Cheers, m

Johson

September 28th, 2009, 09:03 AM

^^yeap dat the new train i saw dis morning!!!!

It is 6 sets of 4 car train will be ready tommorow ? Where did you saw ?

tunomura

September 28th, 2009, 01:47 PM

It is 6 sets of 4 car train will be ready tommorow ? Where did you saw ?

Already on use yesterday...I saw it at Pasar Seni station:lol:

Sheik

September 28th, 2009, 05:29 PM

I heard that it was just being tested, was not carrying passengers.

Remember, someone did say that RapidKL would start operating the 4-carriage trains on the 29th - that is tomorrow.

Wonder if it is still according to plan?

Cheers, m

I think they are only testing the trains. I saw the trains being tested tonite. I first saw it at Dang wangi then when I arrived at taman bahagia, I waited another 20 minutes to see the 4 car trains. It looks like the 2 car trains except with new exterior. You only see the rapidkl logo on a white color train. NO more red striping on the sides. The 4 car trains fills the whole platform. I didn't hear the door closing bell. The train even sounds different when it leaves the station.

I heard it's only starting service after the launching at the end of oct.

Even the electronic signboard has a new message like the next 4 car train to Kelana jaya arriving in 40 seconds...

Hope someone can check out the testing and take some pics and post them online.

allurban

September 29th, 2009, 07:53 AM

I think they are only testing the trains. I saw the trains being tested tonite. I first saw it at Dang wangi then when I arrived at taman bahagia, I waited another 20 minutes to see the 4 car trains. It looks like the 2 car trains except with new exterior. You only see the rapidkl logo on a white color train. NO more red striping on the sides. The 4 car trains fills the whole platform. I didn't hear the door closing bell. The train even sounds different when it leaves the station.

I heard it's only starting service after the launching at the end of oct.

Even the electronic signboard has a new message like the next 4 car train to Kelana jaya arriving in 40 seconds...

Hope someone can check out the testing and take some pics and post them online.Not sure how people will react to that. Initially there are only 6 trains which means 3 per direction.

As a result you would only have 3 of the 4-carriage trains followed by 2-carriage trains.

2 minutes between trains does not give much time for people to spread out from the doors in the centre of the platform to the ends of the platform. So the queues are not really going to get much smaller.

What will likely happen is that in the short term, people will board from the centre doors, move to the front or back carriage, and exit from there.

Maybe that is good because it will reduce congestion and crowding and pushing.

In the longer term there might be problems tho...imagine if people are waiting at the outer doors for a 4-carriages train but only a 2carriage train arrives. That means those people waiting at the outer ends will rush (and maybe push & shove) to get through the centre doors.

I think RapidKL will be changing the platform displays to have a list of the next 2-3 trains (like they do on the Ampang line) which may make a difference there.

Cheers, m

Sheik

September 29th, 2009, 03:31 PM

Dr Jake

September 29th, 2009, 06:38 PM

Where did you get the info from? I guess these are total passengers carried? Or annual passengers?

Cheers, m

MOT and it's the annual passengers stat :cheers:

nazrey

September 29th, 2009, 08:27 PM

MAILBOX: More LRT lines required
Tuesday, September 29th, 2009 02:59:00

IT is great news that Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd has been given the nod to extend the Kelana Jaya and Ampang light rail transit (LRT) lines, thus covering more routes in the Klang Valley, Subang Jaya and Puchong.

But I do hope the transport firm will consider extending the LRT routes to Desa Pandan, Kampung Pandan and Maluri areas as well.

Like many others, I use the LRT service daily and getting to the Ampang Park LRT station in the mornings takes almost 30 minutes due to congestion at the Kampung Pandan roundabout. Worse of all, there is no bus service from Kg Pandan/Desa Pandan to the nearest Gombak-Kelana Jaya Line.

In comparison, the journey on the LRT from Ampang Park to Taman Paramout takes only 30 minutes but because of the jam in the mornings, users in these areas have to waste their time unneccessarily - two hours to get to work and two hours more to return home.

We will truly appreciate if the management can consider this suggestion so that many of us from that area does not need to waste more time.

Mohana Priya
Kuala Lumpur

KelvinKoh

September 30th, 2009, 02:41 AM

allurban

September 30th, 2009, 05:13 AM

RapidKL must let people knows what time they use the 4-carriage and what time they use 2-carriage....(let say, for examp. different colored strips drawn on the platform..)

so that the 'push and shove' mentioned by Mr Moaz won't happen...heheheh something tells me it will happen anyways.

The challenge is to moderate it. Like I said, initially people will board from the centre & exit from the ends of the train.

Cheers, m

allurban

September 30th, 2009, 05:14 AM

The testing of 4 car trains is until Oct 11, then it launches the next day. I agree that rapidkl should have the lcd tv type displays to show whether the next trains are 2 or 4 cars. Ex: 2 car train 1 min
4 car train 5 mins

Instead of the weird displays showing trains arriving every 6 mins and 1 sec. Why the 1 sec?

For you guys who are curious to see the new trains, they stopped at Asia Jaya around :45 past the hr.where did you get the info from on the date? Id like to post the info to the TRANSIT website and it would be nice to have a source (anonymous or not).

oct 12 is less than 2 weeks away!!!

Cheers, m

allurban

September 30th, 2009, 12:16 PM

TRANSIT posted the first photos of the 4-carriage LRT trains (http://transitmy.org/2009/09/28/spotted-4-carriage-lrt/) in action. These photos are of Train 138.

http://transitmy.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/138.jpg

http://transitmy.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/aa03.jpg
If you have photos, please email them (with as much detail as possible) to TRANSIT at klangvalley.transit@gmail.com

Alternatively, post links into our comments section on the posting (http://transitmy.org/2009/09/28/spotted-4-carriage-lrt/).

Cheers, m

arief_malaysia96

September 30th, 2009, 12:43 PM

very nice!!!!

arief_malaysia96

September 30th, 2009, 12:47 PM

that's it....................

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/5693/dscn1956a.jpg

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/9512/07072009104g.jpg

http://http://transitmy.org/2009/09/28/spotted-4-carriage-lrt/

nazrey

September 30th, 2009, 01:01 PM

Seems like it's longer/bigger/taller per 1 carriage (1 bogy tren) than previous version!!!!!!!!
Something tell me that it looks more Like heavy rail as well!?!

Johson

September 30th, 2009, 03:02 PM

How many feet of a 4 car train . It look longer in photo .

tunomura

September 30th, 2009, 03:11 PM

Seems like it's longer/bigger/taller per 1 carriage than previous version!!!!!!!!
Something tell me that it looks more Like heavy rail as well!?!

Heavy rail is not because of the train is heavy but number of passenger can being taken by 1 trainset or by mean the train capacity itself...I think heavy rail is for trainset that have more than 10-carriage:cheers:

Sheik

September 30th, 2009, 03:33 PM

where did you get the info from on the date? Id like to post the info to the TRANSIT website and it would be nice to have a source (anonymous or not).

oct 12 is less than 2 weeks away!!!

Cheers, m

The date of launch was given by the rapidkl customer call center.

allurban

October 1st, 2009, 06:21 AM

MOT and it's the annual passengers stat :cheers:TQ

The date of launch was given by the rapidkl customer call center.TQ ... we have posted the info to the transit site.

Cheers, m

allurban

October 1st, 2009, 06:31 AM

Seems like it's longer/bigger/taller per 1 carriage (1 bogy tren) than previous version!!!!!!!!
Something tell me that it looks more Like heavy rail as well!?!It's just a trick of the focal length .. the smaller train is further way and it just looks a lot smaller. This photo makes it clear that the trains are the same dimensions, just 4 carriages

http://transitmy.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/138.jpg

Heavy rail is not because of the train is heavy but number of passenger can being taken by 1 trainset or by mean the train capacity itself...I think heavy rail is for trainset that have more than 10-carriage:cheers:'heavy' and "light" are misused terms when it comes to rail transport.

A "heavy" rail system like commuter rail in North America can be very "light" when it comes to infrastructure & engineering.

In contrast, a "light" rail system like our Malaysian LRT lines can be very "heavy" in infrastructure & engineering - elevated and underground stations and tracks etc.

The only really "light" systems are trams and BRT that can move fewer than 15-20,000 passengers per direction per hour. Everything else is "heavy"

Which is why we can call our rail lines MRT if we want to. In fact, our Ampang line is already an MRT (moving well-past 20,000 passengers per direction per hour) and the KJ line will be an MRT once 4-carriage trains are fully operating (capacity of 32,000 passengers per direction per hour)

Cheers, m

nazrey

October 1st, 2009, 08:13 AM

It's just a trick of the focal length .. the smaller train is further way and it just looks a lot smaller. This photo makes it clear that the trains are the same dimensions, just 4 carriages

I'm Just judging this picture in the previous page... kalau melihat 1 bogy tren banding dengan yang dulu...it's totally different in size..!!!

The previos version is not yet smaller but shorter too!

http://www.picamatic.com/show/2009/10/01/10/11/5298307_1024x768.JPG

nazrey

October 1st, 2009, 08:20 AM

Old

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v608/nazrey/09ph8.jpg

http://img37.picoodle.com/img/img37/5/11/20/f_04m_1484ad4.jpg

New

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/5693/dscn1956a.jpg

hafidz jon

October 1st, 2009, 09:20 AM

hafidz jon

October 1st, 2009, 09:46 AM

The only really "light" systems are trams and BRT that can move fewer than 15-20,000 passengers per direction per hour. Everything else is "heavy"

Which is why we can call our rail lines MRT if we want to. In fact, our Ampang line is already an MRT (moving well-past 20,000 passengers per direction per hour) and the KJ line will be an MRT once 4-carriage trains are fully operating (capacity of 32,000 passengers per direction per hour)

Cheers, m

i vote for people mover too for 'light' rail. (monorail capacity is very underdog...hahaah)

i always wonder y are we calling them as LRT. Ampang line is defenitely at par with normal metro, despite it's lower daily ridership. the train is 6-car... like the singapore MRT. just that it's narrower (width less than 3m) and the car is not train through from end to end.

Dr Jake

October 1st, 2009, 10:52 AM

The rolling stocks for Ampang Line and Kelana Jaya Line are both METRO. Why the government keeps using the loanword from Singapore (MRT) duh.:ohno:

LRT
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2541/3886327834_0dd9ec1602.jpg
http://l.yimg.com/g/images/spaceball.gif
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3026/2877908446_fdf8e633b4.jpg

BTW, I've seen the new 4-cars ART II Mark today. Awesome:banana:

allurban

October 1st, 2009, 01:18 PM

i've seen it, touch it.... it's similar to the previous 1 (the 2-car train).... only this new train is longer (4-car).

the difference are the engineering (but not train height or width)... it's more on it's electrical and mechanical equipment.

and the new train will not use the same gangway, instead they will use the lighter gangway like in Circle line MRT singapore.by gangway you mean the walk-through area between the cars? What will the differences be? And TRANSIT would love to have some mechanical and technical updates. We couldnt find any details on the Bombardier site.

Cheers, m

allurban

October 1st, 2009, 01:21 PM

The rolling stocks for Ampang Line and Kelana Jaya Line are both METRO. Why the government keeps using the loanword from Singapore (MRT) duh.:ohno:Just for you Dr. Jake I will emphasize to RapidKL and Prasarana that they start to use the term metro for all lines once capacity has been expanded and the lines have been extended.

By the way...could these be the future ... the 13 train carriages for the Ampang LRT...er METRO could very well be these trains from Bombardier (remember, KL likes Bombardier)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a1/DLR_106.jpg

It is the new train on London's Docklands Light Railway (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Docklands_Light_Railway_rolling_stock) which has similar dimensions to the Ampang line

Cheers, m

hafidz jon

October 1st, 2009, 02:58 PM

by gangway you mean the walk-through area between the cars? What will the differences be? And TRANSIT would love to have some mechanical and technical updates. We couldnt find any details on the Bombardier site.

Cheers, m

yes... gangway is the walk-through area.

i think from outside, it's like the monorail gangway. u may tell the difference between the older and the new one from the exterior look. which is different. interior, i think, there'll be no metal wall (inside the gangway).... i maybe wrong. but i'm sure, it's different.

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb275/ddarkdom/05232009128.jpg

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb275/ddarkdom/CCL3.jpg

maybe it's like this.

hafidz jon

October 1st, 2009, 03:11 PM

u won't find any of the detail because Bombardier is not the manufacturer of the gangway.

like the propulsion system, they use parts from various company
-propulsion power conversion unit (alstom) (alstom vvvf inverter)
-tachometer (alcatel)
-LIM (bombardier)
-LIM cooling fans (A.K.Fans)

so, i won't be suprised if there nothing from the bombardier..... basically, bombardier is the manufacturer of the carbody and the LIM (this is what they are expert).

even the LIM for the new train is quite different from the previous one. just slightly different. the most i know is that gangway is different, HMU (heath monitor unit) also now use new features. such as it's no longer located in the electrical locker instead it'll be in the hostling panel (driving panel at the end car). new interface..... lcd touchscreen.

but all these we cannot see unless we're the operator (rapidKL)...haahah. oh no...we still can see the gangway.

nazrey

October 1st, 2009, 04:06 PM

Four-carriage trains in service by October
By CHOONG MEK ZHIN

http://thestar.com.my/archives/2009/8/14/central/m_04yusri.jpg

Faster passage: (From left) Yusri, Ebi Azly and Mohd Hanafi showing how fast it is to use the new automatic fare collection gate that uses the cashless Touch ‘n Go cards.

COMMUTERS using the Kelana Jaya Light Rail Transit (LRT) line can expect to ride in the new four-carriage trains that will be added to the current fleet of two-carriage trains by October.

Six of the trains, which have a passenger capacity of nearly 800, are now being tested and are expected to boost the use of public transport in the Klang Valley from the current 16% to 25% by the end of 2012.

“Currently, we have 35 two-carriage trains in operation on the Kelana Jaya line and we expect to add 35 four-carriage trains to the current fleet by 2012,” RapidKL communication division general manager Ebi Azly Abdullah said.

He added that, to meet the expected increase in the number of commuters, the company had come up with a new automatic fare collection gate that used the cashless Touch ’n Go card.

“We want to encourage more commuters to use the card as it is faster and more efficient, particularly with the installation of the new specialised gates,” Touch ’n Go transit and theme parks head Yusri Yahya said.

During the media preview of the gate project, which is being implemented at a cost of RM3mil, Yusri also said only 10% of the total commuters used the card now.

According to RapidKL automatic fare collection senior manager Mohd Hanafi Osman, 10 of the 23 stations on the Kelana Jaya LRT line have been identified as having a high volume of commuters, with enough demand to warrant the installation of the gates.

According to Mohd Hanafi, there will be 46 gates installed by today. “The Masjid Jamek station is the last to be equipped with this 100% locally-made and programmed gate,” he said.

The Kelana Jaya, Taman Bahagia, Kerinchi, Bangsar, KL Sentral, KLCC, Ampang Park, Wangsa Maju and Gombak stations have been equipped with the gates in stages since April.

“By using the scissor barrier instead of the old flap one, a maximum of 40 people can pass through it per minute, compared with 30 to 35 at the old gates,” Mohd Hanafi said, adding that the new gates had a faster reaction time.

The new gates are equipped with a safety feature so that the barriers will not close if they sense an object or person passing between the gates.

On a separate issue, people working and living in the fast developing area of Taman Sri Rampai can expect the LRT station in the area to begin operations soon.

“The station is located between the Wangsa Maju and Setiawangsa stations on the Kelana Jaya LRT line and was built as a provisional station.

“The recent development of the area has prompted us to include it in our list of train stops,” Ebi Azly said.

:cheers:

nazrey

October 1st, 2009, 04:18 PM

Changes in LRT service at some stations
Friday May 29, 2009

RANGKAIAN Pengangkutan Integrasi Deras Sdn Bhd’s (RapidKL) upgrading work for the Kelana Jaya Line continues with the installation of another rectifier on Sunday.

RapidKL Communication general manager Ebi Azly Abdullah said to ensure that the installation work was carried out smoothly and for the safety of passengers, the LRT service for selected stations between Pasar Seni to Dato’ Keramat station would start operations at 8am on May 31.

The LRT stations involved are:
Masjid Jamek Station;
Dang Wangi Station;
Kampung Baru Station;
KLCC Station;
Ampang Park Station; and
Damai Station

The LRT service from Kelana Jaya to Pasar Seni stations and Gombak to Dato’ Keramat stations will operate as usual.

Feeder buses will be provided for free with a 15-minute frequency to all affected stations except to Kampung Baru Station to ensure the continuous operation.

Feeder bus routes are as follows:

Routes (to): Pasar Seni Station — Masjid Jamek Station, Jln Melaka — Dang Wangi Station, Jln Ampang — Avenue K/KLCC Station, Jln Ampang — Ampang Park Station, Jln Ampang — Opposite Damai Station, Jln Dato’ Keramat — Dato’ Keramat Station

Routes (return): Dato’ Keramat Station — Damai Station, Jln Dato’ Keramat — Citibank/Ampang Park Station, Jln Ampang — Suria KLCC/KLCC Station, Jln Ampang — Opposite Dang Wangi Station, Jln Ampang — Masjid Jamek Station, Jln Melaka — Pasar Seni Station

Ebi said the upgrading work involving the installation of the rectifier and three transformers were carried out smoothly on May 3, 10, 17 and 24, and that LRT service at selected stations resumed earlier than expected.

For more details, commuters may visit the website www.rapidkl.com.my or contact the Helpline at 03-7625 6999 (Monday–Friday from 8.30am until 5.30pm) or email feedback to suggest@rapidkl.com.my

:cheers:

nazrey

October 1st, 2009, 04:19 PM

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb275/ddarkdom/05232009128.jpg

Where is this?

hafidz jon

October 1st, 2009, 04:39 PM

that's in singapore... actually those picture i quote from singapore forum...just to show their new circle line train (which also use the same type of gangway.... at least i think it is)

but their tunnel near the station is very bright.... unlike ours which is like rumah hantu.... so dark.

allurban

October 2nd, 2009, 05:36 AM

i vote for people mover too for 'light' rail. (monorail capacity is very underdog...hahaah)

i always wonder y are we calling them as LRT. Ampang line is defenitely at par with normal metro, despite it's lower daily ridership. the train is 6-car... like the singapore MRT. just that it's narrower (width less than 3m) and the car is not train through from end to end.many older metro carriages do not have a walk through design so that is not a factor.

Yeah, the time has come to get changes to the way we think of public transport.

When all the 35 new trains have arrived and are in service (by 2012) the Kelana Jaya line will have 210 carriages running as 35 units of 4-carriage trains and 35 units of 2-carriage trains...which means they will have increased capacity by 200% or 3x

I know that RapidKL will probably be operating the 2-carriage trains during the early and late periods and let the 4-carriage trains operate during the peak and daytime periods...

But now I wonder, maybe they should consider coupling 34 of the 2 carriage train sets to make an additional 17 units of 4-carriage trains and placing another order for 17-20 4-carriage trains so they can go for permanent 4-carriage operations...by 2014 or 2015

Cheers, m

hafidz jon

October 2nd, 2009, 06:58 AM

many older metro carriages do not have a walk through design so that is not a factor.

I know that RapidKL will probably be operating the 2-carriage trains during the early and late periods and let the 4-carriage trains operate during the peak and daytime periods...

But now I wonder, maybe they should consider coupling 34 of the 2 carriage train sets to make an additional 17 units of 4-carriage trains and placing another order for 17-20 4-carriage trains so they can go for permanent 4-carriage operations...by 2014 or 2015

Cheers, m

peak hours.... morning- 7-9, evening - 4-7

so this is when we can expect the use of 4-car train (when in use in future)

i already ask about the coupling train to my friend (he's a programmer in rapidKL) . he says that it can't be done (hahaha, i assume that he don't know about the rolling stock, since most of programmer don't)

forgot to ask the rolling stock engineer about this coupling features. but i've seen that Skytrain coupling their 2 1-car train (or,i'm wrong again).... but if we can couple those 2 2-car train, it'll be nice. capacity can really boost up (effectively) and people don't really have to worry about which train will be arriving (either 2-car or 4-car):banana:

allurban

October 2nd, 2009, 07:50 AM

forgot to ask the rolling stock engineer about this coupling features. but i've seen that Skytrain coupling their 2 1-car train (or,i'm wrong again).... but if we can couple those 2 2-car train, it'll be nice. capacity can really boost up (effectively) and people don't really have to worry about which train will be arriving (either 2-car or 4-car):banana:Skytrain has ART Mark I trains which are 2 units of coupled carriages, 4 carriages in total...but a single 4-carriage Mark I trainset is a bit longer than a single 2-carriage ART Mark II trainset.

Vancouver rarely used to couple the 2-carriage ART Mark II trainsets but I have seen it done for major events like the Molson Indy. Now it happens more often ... so if they can do it, no reason why KL cannot do it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Skytrain-overpass.jpg

Beijing is running permanent 4-carriage trains for their Airport rail line...not sure of the length but it looks smaller than the 4-carriage Kelana Jaya line train...or maybe that is just because the train only has 2 doors/car not 3?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Beijing_Subway_Airport_Express_01.jpg

I also know that Vancouver is now planning to move to expanded trainsets featuring 3 units of 2-carriage ART Mark II - for a total of 6 carriages.

Vancouver platforms are 80 meters is length and a standard ART Mark II trainset is 33.4m.

A 4-carriage trainset should be 66.8m long, and a 6-carriage trainset just over 100m long

however, to service all doors of a 6-carriage trainset the platform only needs to be about 91 m long...a relatively easy expansion.

Now, if we start talking about 8 carriage operations, we are looking at trains of 134 m in length and platforms of approx 130 m length are needed.

Cheers, m

Dr Jake

October 2nd, 2009, 08:14 AM

allurban

October 2nd, 2009, 08:39 AM

nazrey

October 2nd, 2009, 09:59 PM

Now that Ampang LRT has moved to fully 6-carriage trainsets, they only have 15 total trains...so the 13 new trains will nearly double the size of the fleet...and double the frequency of service.

Cheers, m

:cheers:

nazrey

October 2nd, 2009, 10:01 PM

Dr Jake

October 3rd, 2009, 12:14 PM

It does look nice. They are moving towards 6-carriage trainsets now, which is the same size as the Ampang LRT lines.

Now that Ampang LRT has moved to fully 6-carriage trainsets, they only have 15 total trains...so the 13 new trains will nearly double the size of the fleet...and double the frequency of service.

Cheers, m

During my high school years circa 1998 - 2000 (My school is located next to Plaza Rakyat Station) we're always guessing which trains were heading to Ampang and Sri Petaling. From the distance we kept looking, if they're 4 cars train we knew immediately it's Ampang because 6 cars train were meant for Sri Petaling trains. Gosh how I miss the 90's.:lol:

allurban

October 4th, 2009, 01:04 PM

TnG trial at Tmn Paramount Parking LotUse Touch 'n Go card at Taman Paramount LRT Station Car Park from 5th October 2009

Petaling Jaya, 01 October 2009: Rangkaian Pengangkutan Integrasi Deras Sdn Bhd (RapidKL) will be testing the Touch 'n Go payment system at the Taman Paramount LRT Station beginning the 5th of October 2009.

Customers have to use the Touch 'n Go card to pay the parking charges, then use the same card when boarding RapidKL's LRT or bus. Upon returning to the car park and while exiting, they have to use the same card again whereby only a maximum of RM 3 a day is charged.

If the customers only use the Touch 'n Go card for paying parking charges and avoid the using of the card for the payment of RapidKL's LRT or bus fares, customers shall be charged RM 2 for the first one hour and RM 1 per one hour for the following hours.

The payment system is on trial for a period of three months. The success of this test shall see the implementation of the same system at the other LRT stations.

Taman Paramount LRT Station has 86 parking bays. Customers are able to purchase the Touch 'n Go cards at selected LRT stations namely Kelana Jaya, Taman Paramount, Taman Jaya, Kerinchi, Bangsar, KL Sentral, Pasar Seni, Masjid Jamek (both Kelana Jaya and Ampang Line), Dang Wangi, KLCC, Ampang Park, Setiawangsa, Wangsa Maju, Gombak, Ampang, Bandar Tasik Selatan and Sri Petaling.

The cards are also available at selected fuel stations and agents. Selected sales centres found at Expressways and Touch 'n Go sales centres located at the Faber Towers, Taman Desa (Off Jalan Klang Lama) and in KL Sentral are some of the other options for obtaining the Touch 'n Go cards.

RapidKL and Touch 'n Go Sdn. Bhd., are jointly having this promotional campaign for the users at Taman Paramount LRT since the 24th of September 2009 to create awareness regarding the implementation of the system.

For further information, commuters may contact our helpline at: 03-7885 2585 which is manned from 7am to 8.30am (Monday - Friday) and 8.30am to 5.30pm (Saturday - Sunday). You may also visit our website: www.rapidkl.com.my if you have any input or you may also email us at: suggest@rapidkl.com.my.

Cheers, m

kenni-c

October 5th, 2009, 06:19 PM

Just for you Dr. Jake I will emphasize to RapidKL and Prasarana that they start to use the term metro for all lines once capacity has been expanded and the lines have been extended.

By the way...could these be the future ... the 13 train carriages for the Ampang LRT...er METRO could very well be these trains from Bombardier (remember, KL likes Bombardier)

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It is the new train on London's Docklands Light Railway (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Docklands_Light_Railway_rolling_stock) which has similar dimensions to the Ampang line

Cheers, m

The Docklands Light Rail (DLR) seems resilient and composed but I was quite surprised it has a very low counter-balance (?) property. Anyway hear me out. I was on the DLR two weeks ago on the way to Bank station in the City. Seat configuration isn't like the Ampng/KJ line rolling stocks, the seats faces the direction of travel. As it accelerates, I was literally swaying left and right hitting my cousin who was sitting next to me, more like a fun ride. Its not so comfortable after all.

London tube is a very old system and their trains are much smaller than the Malaysian LRT, and not to mention less comfortable due to the absence of air-conditioning, though they have cushioned seats. Due to its dimension (semi-circular tube shape), you'll hit the doors if you don't duck!

kenni-c

October 5th, 2009, 06:40 PM

Four-carriage trains in service by October

“We want to encourage more commuters to use the card as it is faster and more efficient, particularly with the installation of the new specialised gates,” Touch ’n Go transit and theme parks head Yusri Yahya said.

I agree with the encouragement to use Touch & Go but I don't see how theme parks are related to this industry. If you ask me, scrape the Theme Park programme and focus on transportation. If anything else, implement it in retail. Precedents: Octopus in Hong Kong and EZ-link in Singapore where their respective cards could be used in 7-Elevens, McDonalds and other daily convenient retail outlets. I've read that it was once implemented in Burger King before, but I've no news after that.

And then, give discounts to T&G holders like how Oyster, Octopus and EZ-link reward their users. I understand this is difficult with the current state of public transport system, but this has to be implemented to encourage ridership in the future.

kenni-c

October 5th, 2009, 07:01 PM

Ampang/Sri Petaling Line

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Beautiful pictures. The car sets are a little old though. And they look really out-of-date, they don't have the aerodynamic shape that appeals to riders.

Any news or photos of the new car sets for Ampang Line? They better look good and please someone tell them to install an automated next-station announcement system. I can't hear the dry male voice announcing the next station when the train's full. And most of the time, they eat their words. Other times, they don't even bother to announce. I don't blame the drivers, they have to repeat the same set of announcements for every circuit several times a day for the length of their employment with rapidKL. Is recording a female voice so difficult to do in 15 train sets?

Several years ago, I heard improvements on the announcement system. It was a female recorded voice "Stesen berikutnya, Maluri. Next station Maluri. Terima kasih kerana menaiki tren rapidKL. Thank you for travelling with rapidKL" or something to that effect. Very polite indeed. I don't hear that anymore.

Also, I was also quite impressed by KJ Line's McDonald's and Nokia themed trains which is gone now. "Next station, KLCC. Grab your Big Mac Value Meal for RM5.99 at your next stop". I've not heard this in any other systems before.

Also, things I would love to see in new train sets are guided system maps like in Hong Kong's MTR where the next station is lit or announced in form of words. Bangkok's Skytrain has LCD screens showing ads like rapidKL buses but to a far greater effect given that Thai commercials are well known for their creativity.

Hope these new features aren't too demanding in the future RapidKL rolling stocks.

nazrey

October 5th, 2009, 10:20 PM

Rapid KL LRT - Sri Petaling Line - Sungai Besi LRT station
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rizalhakim

October 6th, 2009, 04:31 AM

Asean Partners Urged To Speed Up Singapore-Kunming Railway Link Project

HANOI, Oct 5 (Bernama) -- Malaysia urged Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, Burma and Vietnam to speed up construction of the Singapore-Kunming Railway Link (SKRL) in several missing areas.

Deputy Transport Minister Datuk Abdul Rahim Bakri hoped the close cooperation would culminate in the completion of the project in 2015 in line with the establishment of the Asean community in the same year.

Speaking after chairing a special working group on the railway project here Monday, Abdul Rahim said relevant infrastucture was vital for the project in order to help forge economic cooperation among Asean members countries.

He added that a vast market of 1.75 billion, comprising China's population of 1.2 billion and the Asean market of 550 million people, was waiting to be tapped with the development of the Mekong Delta.

The one-day meeting, which was attended by the railway authorities of Asean partners and China, discussed funding for the project by less developed countries.

The meeting, also attended by representatives from the Bangkok-based United Nations Economic and Social Commission for Asia and the Pacific (UNESCAP) and, the Jakarta-based Asean secretariat, hoped the US$10 billion Asean China Economic Cooperation Fund could be tapped to part finance the construction of the missing link.

-- BERNAMA

allurban

October 6th, 2009, 04:48 AM

Beautiful pictures. The car sets are a little old though. And they look really out-of-date, they don't have the aerodynamic shape that appeals to riders.

Any news or photos of the new car sets for Ampang Line? They better look good and please someone tell them to install an automated next-station announcement system. I can't hear the dry male voice announcing the next station when the train's full. And most of the time, they eat their words. Other times, they don't even bother to announce. I don't blame the drivers, they have to repeat the same set of announcements for every circuit several times a day for the length of their employment with rapidKL. Is recording a female voice so difficult to do in 15 train sets?

Several years ago, I heard improvements on the announcement system. It was a female recorded voice "Stesen berikutnya, Maluri. Next station Maluri. Terima kasih kerana menaiki tren rapidKL. Thank you for travelling with rapidKL" or something to that effect. Very polite indeed. I don't hear that anymore.

Also, I was also quite impressed by KJ Line's McDonald's and Nokia themed trains which is gone now. "Next station, KLCC. Grab your Big Mac Value Meal for RM5.99 at your next stop". I've not heard this in any other systems before.

Also, things I would love to see in new train sets are guided system maps like in Hong Kong's MTR where the next station is lit or announced in form of words. Bangkok's Skytrain has LCD screens showing ads like rapidKL buses but to a far greater effect given that Thai commercials are well known for their creativity.

Hope these new features aren't too demanding in the future RapidKL rolling stocks.No photos yet...we are trying to get info about what plans they have for the trains and the Request for Interest and Request for Proposals.

I do not know if Prasarana has thought of asking for passenger feedback on what features can be included in the new trains....but I would certainly encourage people to give their feedback so I can compile it and send it to Prasarana.

The McDonald's and Nokia trains are interesting and effective ... but wow, the Nokia one was so annoying after a while. The worst/funniest part (methinks) was the first time you hear the announcement...because they preceed it with the sms ringtone, making half the passengers on the train automatically reach for their phones.

Cheers, m

rizalhakim

October 6th, 2009, 05:01 AM

allurban

October 6th, 2009, 05:07 AM

I agree with the encouragement to use Touch & Go but I don't see how theme parks are related to this industry. If you ask me, scrape the Theme Park programme and focus on transportation. If anything else, implement it in retail. Precedents: Octopus in Hong Kong and EZ-link in Singapore where their respective cards could be used in 7-Elevens, McDonalds and other daily convenient retail outlets. I've read that it was once implemented in Burger King before, but I've no news after that.

And then, give discounts to T&G holders like how Oyster, Octopus and EZ-link reward their users. I understand this is difficult with the current state of public transport system, but this has to be implemented to encourage ridership in the future.Bank Negara Malaysia actually structured the implementation of Touch N Go in 2 phases...

First phase is the use of TnG for toll concessions & parking lots + theme parks & public transport phase.

Second phase is the implementation of retail sales. TnG just completed a test of retail sales at fast food outlets & petrol stations in the Mutiara Damansara area. They are now rolling out the 2nd phase which will allow people to pay for meals & add value at cafes & restaurants.

I just paid for a RM38 meal at Station 1 Cafe in USJ taipan with my Touch N Go card.

Frankly, the TnG people should be doing a better job of getting public transport users to use the card but it doesnt seem to be happening. The constant "on-again-off-again" of TnG on RapidKL buses is certainly not helping.

Cheers, m

allurban

October 6th, 2009, 05:12 AM

Public transport still unpopular

KUALA LUMPUR: The Transport Minister wants more Klang Valley folk to use public transport but recognises that services first need to be improved.

Datuk Seri Ong Tee Keat said he was willing to hear the concerns of consumers as well as players in the public transportation sector.

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Pleasant surprise: A bus commuter greeting Ong during his visit to the Taman Maluri bus station in Cheras yesterday. — Pic courtesy of Nanyang

Currently, only 16% of the Klang Valley’s population uses public transport and the Government would like to increase this figure to 25%.

Ong said that among the main complaints were irregular service in certain areas, lack of service during non-peak hours, vehicle breakdown and poor maintenance of bus terminals and bus stops.

He added that he would also look at having unpopular residential roads being properly serviced by public transport.

Ong, the Urban Public Transport panel head, said it was on his agenda to meet with not only public bus operators but also representatives of other modes of public transport such as the Light Rail Transit and KTM Komuter.

On bus companies complaining of unfair pricing compared to fares set by the Govern-ment for RapidKL buses, Ong said he would gather feedback.

“We are here not just to promote only one company’s interest but also to look into national concerns.

“If we want to allow competition, then it should be on a level playing field but not at the expense of the public,” he said during a fact-finding walkabout at the Taman Maluri bus station in Cheras yesterday.

Ong also pointed out that his ministry was not the only one with the power and jurisdiction over public transport.

The Transport Ministry is not the licensing agency for bus services nor is it responsible for the recent fare hike.

On whether the ministry might provide subsidies to encourage the use of public transport, he said: “Let us not be obsessed with the subsidy psyche — the main thing now is improving the areas of concern.”

He said the ministry was also looking into the possibility of introducing inter-company passes but it was not easy to convince all the companies.His posting on his blog - http://www.ongteekeat.net/gogo_en/content/view/313/53/

During the morning rush hour today, I took the bus near my home at Taman Midah to the Taman Maluri station to get a first-hand feel of what Malaysian commuters are going through on a daily basis. The people’s feedback is very important in shaping our decisions and policies, and I took the opportunity to speak to them on the Government’s efforts to encourage the use of public transportation, especially on the services and facilities offered.

The media was not invited on board because I want to hear the frank views from the people without the glare of publicity.

Various issues were brought up and among the top concerns is the regularity of the services. Other points raised included breakdowns of buses which affect reliability of the services, accessibility and journey time, as well as convenience and comfort.

The feedback received must be taken seriously if we are to achieve the ultimate medium-term target of 25% public transport peak-hour modal share for Klang Valley by 2012 from the current 16% for the National Key Result Area (NKRA) on Urban Public Transport (UPT) which I head.

The view is that in the long-term, rail services must be positioned as the backbone of our urban public transport system . In the next three years, three work-in-progress rail initiatives will be able to contribute to improving rail services. They are 35 new 4-car sets for the K5 LRT line to be operational by 2012, 5 new ETS for KTM’s Ipoh-Rawang line to be operational by 2010, and the resurrection of 9 Electrical Multiple Units (EMUs) for KTM’s commuter lines by 2010. Additional cars are pending approval from the Ministry of Finance. There are also other rail initiatives such as LRT line extensions, LRT new line and new KTM EMUs which will be delivered in 2013 and beyond.

However, something must be done in the short-term and improvement in bus services is crucial to encourage the usage of public transport to achieve our medium-term target. I welcome RapidKL and Dewan Bandaraya Kuala Lumpur (DBKL)’s collaborative approach in dealing with the short comings. Although public transportation is within the domain of multiple federal and local government agencies - 13 of them to be exact - the establishment of the NKRA for UPT is a strategic move to bring together the various agencies under a collaborative umbrella with common objectives.

For the initiative this morning, we are working with Syarikat Prasarana National Berhad (SPNB) of which RapidKL falls under, and DBKL in this pilot effort for selected routes in Area 4 which covers areas like Maluri and Cheras to improve on reliability, journey time, comfort and convenience, as well as accessibility and connectivity.

We will look into putting in 8 additional buses into 4 routes, proposing bus lanes and increase enforcement of those lanes. New routes connecting Taman Segar to LRT Bandar Tasik Selatan as well as 3 extensions of current routes to LRT stations are in the pipeline to improve inter-modal connectivity. We also hope that the increase in the number of covered bus stops will alleviate the discomfort of commuters in the short to medium term. I have advised RapidKL that it is one thing to get additional buses; it is another to get as many buses on the road as possible if we are serious about improving reliability of its services.

It must be stressed that efforts at improving urban public transportation must be a comprehensive one, which involves the cooperation of various parties, including other operators. While we welcome competition among operators of public transportation, such competition must ultimately benefit the people. It doesn’t make sense for competition to only focus on peak hours.

I am confident that if we continue to listen to the people, the Government will be able to achieve the high targets set for ourselves. This is the essence of a People First, Performance Now culture.

mrtfreak

October 11th, 2009, 02:44 AM

4-car test train departing Pasar Seni for Kelana Jaya:

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arief_malaysia96

October 11th, 2009, 02:54 AM

kelana jaya line
4-car test train

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mrtfreak

October 11th, 2009, 03:58 AM

I guess they have at least 3 trains that can be used? 037, 038 and 039 have been seen testing (039 in the Pasar Seni video, 037 in the Bangsar video and 038 in pictures).

Sheik

October 11th, 2009, 06:46 AM

Smoother travel on Kelana Jaya LRT line soon

Submitted by amir azree on Thursday, October 8th, 2009
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Four-carriage trains provide double capacity
Pauline Almeida
Thursday, October 8th, 2009 06:38:00

COMFORTABLE: New LRT four car-coach for the Kelana Jaya line to be launched soon
DID you notice this four-carriage Light Rail Transit train (pic) while you were waiting at an LRT station on the Kelana Jaya Line recently?

If you were disappointed at not being allowed to board it then, the good news is you will be able to do so soon.

This set is among 35 new four-carriage trains Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd (SPNB) bought from Canada and which were jointly produced by a local consortium for RM1.2 billion recently.

For commuters, that could well mean no more packed trains and long queues along the Kelana Jaya line.
The new trains are being tested before an official launch believed to be on Monday.

However, SPNB’s group communications general manager Ebi Azly Abdullah said it would be much later.
He said SPNB is still testing the new train sets during both peak and off-peak hours to attain service reliability.

“We will ensure all aspects of testing and commissioning requirements are fully met with so that all our customers can enjoy safe, reliable and efficient service by the time we launch the new four car-train service.”

These trains double the seating and standing capacity of the current two-car trains. The new sets offer 32 seats per carriage and comfortable standing space of six persons per square metre. In all, the new four-carriage train set can ferry 740 passengers, both seating and standing.

Current trains on the Kelana Jaya line can accommodate not more than 370 passengers (seated and standing) at any one time.

As far as the frequency of the trains, is concerned, Ebi said it will be adjusted to suit the passenger load. Currently, the gap is between 3.5 and five minutes between trains.

SPACIOUS: The new coaches have 32 seats and more standing room
“With a bigger carrying capacity and additional train sets, we will balance the mix of the four-car and two-car train operations to cater for demand accordingly.”
Malay Mail reported last year of the packed trains along the Kelana Jaya line even as late as 9pm.

It was found that the problem of packed trains was mainly due to the busy line being serviced by trains with only two coaches.

Passengers had an average waiting time of two to 26 minutes for connecting trains.

The problem worsened after the petrol price hike in June last year as more people opted to use public transport.

Sheik

October 11th, 2009, 06:49 AM

hafidz jon

October 11th, 2009, 10:22 AM

The new trains are being tested before an official launch believed to be on Monday.

However, SPNB’s group communications general manager Ebi Azly Abdullah said it would be much later.

Don't need to test so long. No matter how long they test, they will ot get it right. That's for sure. Right now, they cannot even provide a decent reliable service in the mronings during rush hour, a few more weeks of testing will not change things.

Just launch the new trains and provide consistent reliable service.

nooo.... they need to test until it's proved to be safe. safety is the main concerned isn't it. i know that the current train is not enough to cater the commuters needs.

but,these 4-car train faced so much prob since it's in malaysia. it's even tested for a long time on rapidkl track. suppose that the manufacturer do full test in their home country, and just send trains which has passed all the test.:bash:

PlanetNova

October 12th, 2009, 11:13 AM

chuakz

October 12th, 2009, 02:32 PM

I wonder when would sunway be having a public train or monorail that would be able to connect to KL itself....

nazrey

October 12th, 2009, 02:33 PM

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nazrey

October 12th, 2009, 02:34 PM

Swipe your card to pay for parking at LRT station
Monday October 12, 2009 By JADE CHAN

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Thumbs up: (From left) Muhammad Nizam, Khair Ul-Anwar, Ebi Azly and Teras
Teknologi Sdn Bhd business development head Ahmad Khan highlighting the
convenience of using the Park & Ride parking payment system using
Touch ‘n Go cards at the Taman Paramount LRT Station.

RAPID KL has launched a Park & Ride payment system at the Taman Paramount LRT Station, whereby commuters need only swipe their Touch ‘n Go cards for their parking charges.

Under the system, commuters who use the Touch ‘n Go card for their parking charges and use the same card for their LRT fares pay a flat rate of RM3 per day when they exit the parking lot.

“The Park & Ride system using Touch ‘n Go is designed to benefit public transport users as it offers a minimal parking charge for motorists who park and use the LRT,” said Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd (Prasarana) Group Communications general manager Ebi Azly Abdullah.

Motorists who do not use the LRT but park their cars at the station will be charged RM2 for the first hour and RM1 for each subsequent hour

The Taman Paramount LRT Station has 68 parking bays.

The system, which is being conducted on a trial basis, is done in collaboration with Touch ‘n Go Sdn Bhd. Teras Teknologi Sdn Bhd is the system provider.

“The system will be evaluated after a three-month trial run.

“If the response is good, the system will be extended to all the LRT stations with parking facilities in stages,” said Ebi.

“However, there is a need to take into consideration the existing contracts with the private parking operators that manage the parking facilities at selected stations,” said Prasarana’s special officer to the group managing director, Muhammad Nizam Alias.

(There are now seven stations under the Kelana Jaya Line and 11 under the Ampang Line with parking facilities, with a total of 3,033 parking bays.)

Touch ‘n Go chief commercial officer Khair Ul-Anwar Mohd Yusoff said the objective was to educate customers on the convenience of using Touch ‘n Go cards.

“There are now 5.9 million Touch ‘n Go users, most of whom are in the Klang Valley. About 2.9 million are active users who largely use their cards for toll payment.

“We are focusing our efforts to increase the use of public transport by introducing such services like the Park & Ride parking payment system,” he said, adding that the cards can also be used for parking payment at shopping malls and airports and retail transactions.

On consumers’ security concerns about using their MyKad as a Touch ‘n Go card, Khair Ul-Anwar assured users that there would be no problems as two separate chips were used.

Ebi said the system is in line with the Prime Minister’s national agenda to increase public transport usage in the Klang Valley to 25% from the present 16%, and that there would be more related announcements to encourage the use of public transport.

“We will be introducing a better parking management system within the next two months that will detect the availability of parking bays - similar to the system at Sunway Pyramid.

“Prasarana’s group managing director has also announced that the parking facilities at the Gombak and Ampang LRT Stations will be developed into multi-storey carparks,” he said.

Ebi noted that since the system was introduced on Oct 5, there has been improvement in terms of the availability of parking bays that were previously taken up by residents and those who needed to do shopping errands.

Rapid KL and Touch ‘n Go welcomes feedback on how to further improve and enhance the Park & Ride parking payment system.

Contact the Rapid KL helpline at 03-7885 2585 or suggest@rapidkl.com.my; Touch’n Go Sdn Bhd’s careline centre number is 03-7628 5115.

tomkat

October 12th, 2009, 03:18 PM

Finally my idea of promoting park and ride by giving parking benefit via the using of TnG is implemented. Well, it took the authorities 3-4 years to actually do it.

But my idea was more extrement - giving free parking! :-) RM3 is not bad either.

And, 3033 parking bays is pathetic.

ps: waiting the same facilities at KTM Komuter stations.

Sheik

October 12th, 2009, 04:40 PM

So there was no launching of 4 car trains today? Wonder when it will be?

Seems like rapidkl just doesn't care about its passengers. They just take their own sweet time to do things. No will to improve at all. Only know how to get the rapidkl police to shout masuk in an overstuffed train.

Frustrated that they reduce the speed of the trains this morning when everyone is trying to get to work on time! Trains were damn slow.

Things seem to go wrong always either when people are trying to get to work or get home from work.

hafidz jon

October 12th, 2009, 05:02 PM

So there was no launching of 4 car trains today? Wonder when it will be?

i don't think there's such news from rapidkl that they want to launch the 4-car train today.... at least i don't see any news at the newspaper or on their website about the launching date.

maybe someone can show me link, so that it can prove me wrong.

anything else, i've no objection. yes we need the new train badly. the current train is no longer enough to cater commuters number in morning peak hours.

*or maybe they can just put the train for morning peak hours since it's only 2hours (7-9 am)... and continue to test the train during non-peak hour.:banana:

nazrey

October 12th, 2009, 09:57 PM

Puchong in need of a better transport system
2009/10/12
James Gonzales, Kuala Lumpur

DURING its halcyon days, Puchong was well-known for its tin mining industry and rubber estates, which were the backbone of the country's economy until the 1960s. Puchong, which was the main town in the Petaling District then, had only one road running through the estates and villages along the vicinity.

Over the last few decades, Puchong has experienced massive urbanisation that has transformed this once sleepy outskirt of Kuala Lumpur into a vibrant and fast developing mini-metropolis. For those who are returning to Puchong after a long hiatus, the place is beyond recognition, especially with the new roads and highways connecting various parts of the city and country.

Only a few landmarks bear any semblance to yesteryear, and one of them is the Pure Life Society, an orphanage run by Mother Mangalam.

This society provides food, a comfortable dwelling, healthcare and education for the less fortunate.

The only other familiar landmark for those nostalgic about Puchong is the air force base in Kinrara, which was noted for its hospital.

Many new housing estates have sprouted up, creating mini-townships within the township, and providing all types of service-based amenities including banks, shopping malls, offices, supermarkets, restaurants and other retail establishments. I noticed that the cost of certain items, such as hardware and furniture, are slightly cheaper than in Kuala Lumpur.

Like any other suburb of Kuala Lumpur, Puchong faces the dilemma of the daily gridlock brought about by the number of motor vehicles using a few outlets to reach the city.

I think it is time for the authorities to consider improving the public transport system and look into the feasibility of constructing the LRT from Puchong to the city to solve this woe. Perhaps, more licences should be issued to increase the frequency of bus services to and from Puchong.

Despite these hindrances, it is indeed refreshing to witness the vast development that has taken place in this suburb of Kuala Lumpur over the last few decades.

More self-contained townships should be developed like Puchong for the affordability and convenience of the populace. Puchong offers hope for other hamlets to re-invent themselves in a country marching steadily towards developed nation status.

PlanetNova

October 14th, 2009, 08:03 AM

mrtfreak

October 14th, 2009, 11:24 AM

I don't think it is fair to say that RapidKL doesn't care about its passengers. They're testing their trains when only 5 have arrived. Adding these to the fleet would only provide momentary relief when a 4-car train arrives at the station. If I remember correctly, one would need to wait roughly 4 trains before being able to board. The 4-car train would only reduce the wait to waiting for 3 trains for the time being, until all 35 are in operation at one go which would only be in 2012!

They are doing what they can with the little they have as I see it. And also, the trains didn't seem to be ready for service in the videos so far. The Bangsar video shows announcement-less trains. I'm pretty sure you'd rather have a fully functional train than a half-tested-about-to-breakdown train. The trains are here, they are being tested and will be commissioned in due time. Just be patient. It can only get better now that you're one step closer to 4-car trains.

nazrey

October 15th, 2009, 12:16 PM

Rangkaian rel di Lembah Klang akan diperluas
Khamis, 15 Oktober 2009 |

KUALA LUMPUR: Jumlah kereta api akan ditambah di Lembah Klang untuk memenuhi hasrat kerajaan bagi meningkatkan penggunaan pengangkutan awam itu daripada 16 peratus kepada 25 peratus pada tahun 2012, kata Menteri Pengangkutan, Datuk Seri Ong Tee Keat.

Beliau berkata sasaran untuk penggunaan kemudahan itu di Pulau Pinang, Johor Baharu akan dibuat kemudian.

"Tumpuan segera kita ialah untuk meningkatkan kapasiti, tahap perkhidmatan, liputan dan hubungan bagi semua jenis pengangkutan awam dengan penekanan utama ialah untuk meningkatkan peranaan perkhidmatan rel sebagai tulang belakang pengangkutan awam bandar," katanya dalam ucapan pada Sidang Kemuncak Pengangkutan Awam Bandar di sini hari ini.

Teks ucapan beliau dibacakan Timbalan Ketua Setiausaha (Perancangan) kementerian itu Datuk Long See Wool.

Katanya, dengan hanya trek sejauh 19 kilometer untuk sejuta penduduk, liputan rel di Lembah Klang rendah berbanding dengan kebanyakan bandar raya lain di dunia dan tiga sistem kereta api dan bas berhenti-henti yang ada mengendalikan 260,000 penumpang di sebelah pagi, waktu kemuncak dan sesak.

"Bagi penumpang yang tinggal di sepanjang rel Ipoh-Rawang, empat kereta api elektrik baru (ETS) akan diperkenalkan antara Disember tahun ini dan Mac tahun depan," katanya.

Beliau berkata, RM200 juta telah diperuntukkan untuk membeli 10 unit berganda elektrik (EMU) untuk KTM Berhad berikutan bertambahnya bilangan penumpang melalui Lembah Klang.

Katanya, untuk mengatasi kesesakan rel LRT Kelana Jaya kerajaan merancang menambah 10 kereta api baru dengan empat gerabak pada akhir tahun ini.

"Kita akan terus menambah perkhidmatan empat gerabak secara berperingkat-peringkat sehingga semua 35 buah beroperasi pada tahun 2012. Pada ketika itu, kapasiti kita kini sebanyak 25 kereta api dengan 70 kereta api dengan 210 gerabak," katanya.

Pada 2012, rel LRT dari Kelana Jaya akan diperluaskan ke Putra Heights melalui Subang Jaya dan Ampang-Sri Petaling akan diperluaskan ke Puchong dan berakhir di Putra Heights.

Ong berkata, rel baru LRT dari Kota Damansara ke Cheras meliputi 42.8 kilometer sedang dikaji.

"Perluasan rel LRT dan rel baru itu akan menambahkan liputan rel kita di Lembah Klang kepada 32 kilometer trek bagi sejuta penduduk," katanya.

Katanya, pasukan petugas penyerahan mengenai pengangkutan awam akan diberi tanggungjawab untuk memperbaiki lagi sistem pengangkutan awam di Lembah Klang dan akan memberikan tumpuan segera untuk menyusun semula perkhidmatan bas dengan lebih banyak hub antara jenis pengangkutan, kapasiti rel, rangkaian perantara dan penyediaan tiket yang bersepadu

Di luar Lembah Klang, projek landasan kereta api elektrik berkembar dari Ipoh, Perak ke Padang Besar di utara dan Seremban ke Gemas, Negeri Sembilan di selatan sedang disiapkan.

Ong berkata, di bawah Bidang Keberhasilan Utama Negara (N-KRA), projek itu akan diperluaskan dari Gemas ke Johor Baharu, Johor tidak lama lagi.

"Sebuah Suruhanjaya Pengangkutan Awam Darat akan ditubuhkan bagi memastikan dasar, perancangan dan pelaksanaan bersepadu dijalankan dengan lebih tersusun," katanya.