just wondering what everyones top 8 predictions are for the end of the year
mine is

Sydney>> to win the minor premiership
Port Adelaide>> To play like last year
Brisbane>> to win alot as usuall
Fremantle>> to win all home games and win 6 or so away games
Melbourne >> To keep up the good form
Essendon >> to win 12 lose 10
St Kilda >> To start well and finish off notn that well
North Melbourne >> To keep at an even pace all year

Also wondering who you think will win the brownlowe?
i have no idea

And Who For the Premiership?

i think itll be a Sydney and possibly brisbane maybe melbourne or ST kilda

PHAT

Port (will not win a final)
St Kilda (will lose prelim final)
Brisbane (will lose prelim final)
Essendon (play off in grand final)
Freo (bow out in the semis)
Sydney (will lose first final)
Hawthorn (play off in the grand final)
Kangaroos (will lose first final)

Brownlow will be tied between Hasleby and Hird.

Coleman to go to Gehrig.

Essendon and Hawthorn for the GF........interesting prediction..............I thinks, albeit it with personal prejudices, the Power will overcome finals Yips and at least make the GF. And now I wait for the responses from the majority telling me how stupid I am, how Port suck, and how I don't support (enter own name's favourite team) etc etc.

Id be hell happy if haselby tied with hird > freos first brownlowe

Actually Pikey, I have a terrible feeling that Port might just go all the way this year. You are playing with injuries and winning. You can only get better. If Port peak by getting back the majority of their players, it could be another nightmare for Victoria coming true.

My top 8, before the finals, and in some form of assemblnce is

Port Adelaide
Brisbane
St Kilda
Essendon
Sydney
Fremantle
Collingwood (I still think they are good enough, perhaps wishful thinking.)
West Coast

My tip for the Brownlow is James Hird of Essendon.

The finals are a completely different ball game. If a team steams into the finals from a lowly position they'll have a lot of momentum and there is no reason why they couldn't play off in the grand final. For example, last year Hawthorn came home strongly and if they made the finals they probably would've made top 4, maybe. So there's no reason why a team finishing just in the 8 can't make the grand final. Mind you, I won't lie but I sorta went out on a limb, heck, there's 17 rounds left.

Brisbane
Port
St Kilda
Sydney
Fremantle
West Coast
Melbourne
Adelaide

Collingwood and Richmond fighting it out for last spot - how good is that.

Brisbane
Port
Sydney
Collingwood
Essendon
Fremantle
St Kilda
Carlton (just to be different)

Final 8:

St Kilda
Port Adelaide
Brisbane
West Coast
Sydney
Kangaroos
Freemantle
Carlton (its a trend now)

I was very surprised when Carlton beat West Coast so who knows? And don't write off Adelaide, but I'd feel a bit mean to predict every non Melbourne team in final eight. Even though I hold a grudge against Melbourne teams because the grand final is at MCG no matter what.

Grand final: Carlton vs Freemantle.

ok seriously I expect St Kilda Brisbane, but things never work out the way you expect....

St Kilda
Port Adelaide
Essendon
Brisbane
Fremantle
Adelaide
Melbourne
Kangaroos

Finals Week 1: Melbourne d. Adelaide, Fremantle d. Kangaroos, St. Kilda d. Brisbane, Port Adelaide d. Essendon

Finals Week 2: Brisbane d. Fremantle, Essendon d. Melbourne

Finals Week 3: Brisbane d. St. Kilda, Port Adelaide d. Essendon

GF: Brisbane d. Port Adelaide

Adder-Laid, your finals predictions are flawed somewhat. Youve got Port beating Essendon twice before the Grand Final. The way the finals are structured now, two teams cannot play twice in the finals before the GF.

Adder-Laid, your finals predictions are flawed somewhat. Youve got Port beating Essendon twice before the Grand Final. The way the finals are structured now, two teams cannot play twice in the finals before the GF.

He's covering every possible angle - we all know that if Port win a final, it will be against Essendon. We're just not sure what week it will be in.

I am sour. The AFL owes Hawthorn at least 2 points.

Imagine if you got the 4 points instead if the kick from 40m out went over the pack's head like it should have.

Dockers down Eagles to go second
Fremantle have moved to outright second on the AFL ladder with a 10-point victory over state rivals West Coast at Subiaco Oval.

The match was a close affair all the way through, with the Dockers down by two at half-time before running out winners, 12.11 (83) to 11.7 73).

The Dockers had nine separate major scorers, with Jeff Farmer bagging three and Paul Hasleby a double.

Phil Matera had four goals for the Eagles, who are in 10th spot.

Daniel Kerr and Ashley Sampi both managed three majors each.

Peter Bell was the star for the Dockers with 33 disposals and a goal, while Hasleby managed 30 touches.

Eagles skipper Ben Cousins made his usual contribution, picking up 28 possessions
http://www.abc.net.au/wa/news/200405/s1099385.htm

Good derby. A most pleasing result ;)

oops... Well my finals theory was done after having worked all day, several beers, and greenage... so, I somehow knew it wouldn't be too accurate :P

Brisbane
St Kilda
Port Adelaide
Melbourne
Fremantle
Adelaide
Sydney
Essendon

I'd really like to see the grand final be between Geelong and Melbourne though. Neither team has won a premiership since the 60's (well 64 for melbourne, geelong is something like that). I'd also be happy if either of those teams were against St Kilda, theyre due for a premiership too.

Go go Melbourne Demons! :grouphug: :grouphug:

:pepper: :pepper: :llama: and so forth

Considering the shit I dished out at the Showdown last weekend, i've karma fucked the crows enough for us to collect the wooden spoon. Let's hope karma doesn't exist :D

After our shocker of a start to the season, and by that I mean the draw - 5 games out of 7 away, and game against st kilda, port, brisbane and freo in WA - we're about to really get a move on. Wait for the crows to be 6 - 5.

Round 8: Essendon (shit their pants when they come to Football Park)
Round 9: Collingwood (that's bottom placed Collingwood with no buckley)
Round 10: Hawthorn (15th placed Hawthorn :D)
Round 11: Carlton (at home. Heh... carlton... 100 point win coming up)

6-5! :D Go you crows!

Well I expect Collingwood to start their journey towards making the final 8 next weekend when they have a good win against St Kilda.

Mind you, I'm also expecting to see pigs fly next weekend too.

St Kilda
Brisbane
Melbourne
Essendon
Sydney
Port Adelaide
Carlton
Geelong

Predicting the Top 8 at end of season based on only the past 3 weeks form is a classic of AFL - smart media brainiacs included...

I can't tell you anything - I have no idea!! - Melbourne very well could bomb out, I doubt Geelong are real deal, West Coast are better than everyone thinks, Port will come back to Top 4 as their players come back etc.. who really knows.

But one things for sure, it won't look like what it now looks like!

Round 8: Essendon (shit their pants when they come to Football Park)


"shattered"

http://www.nscollegeprep.cps.k12.il.us/depts/science/brodgers/main_files/dr.evil.jpg

After 8 Rounds

1-St Kilda
2-Melbourne
3-Brisbane
4-Essendon
5-Fremantle
6-Port Adelaide
7-Kangaroos
8-Geelong
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9-Richmon
10-Sydney
11-West Coast
12-Carlton
13-Western Bulldogs
14-Adelaide
15-Hawthorn
16-Collingwood

My 2 cents worth

Brisbane
Melbourne
St Kilda
Port
Essendon
Geelong
Freo
Collingwood

can I have another go?
Brisbane
St Kilda (4 pts behind Brisbane)
Port Adelaide (percentage behind St Kilda)
Esendon (percentage behind St Kilda
Melbourne
Geelong
Sydney
West Coast

I think the top 4 will be close, and whoever finishes 5 could be considered unlucky.

Crows will make it :D

^

If ever you want to be inspired and see real optimism, just read Yob's post above.

:p

Brisbane
St Kilda
Melbourne
Port Adelaide
Geelong
Sydney
Fremantle
Essendon

The march towards the final 8 has begun!

Put simply - If the Crows beat Melbourne next round, we'll build up momentum to make the 8... or as expected, if we lose to Melbourne, we'll keep up our mediocrity for the rest of the season :P

Adelaide are like Carlton at the moment. You beat a very ordinary team under extreme circumstance and now you think you'll make the finals! After Carlton beat us (Hawthorn) last week by 2 goals a supporter rang up saying Carlton were going to make the finals after beating possibly the worst Hawthorn team in decades.

Here's who won't make the finals;
Hawthorn
Richmond
Adelaide
Carlton
Collingwood
Western Bulldogs.

The other 10 teams will fight it out for 8 positions.

When a team sacks their coach they always win their next game. The crows winning streak has begun!

Adelaide will be the exception. ;)

Well its odd, coz when a team sacks its coach, its always after a loss, usually a loss which breaks the camel's back. But the Crows won last week.

The team didn't "sack the coach" as such, they said his contract wouldn't be renewed, and he then quit...

Same thing happened with my last job :P

^ Well technically they didnt sack him, they just didnt renew his contract. I don't think that's gonna make Ayres feel any better.

Bottom line though, they got rid of him.

Well its odd, coz when a team sacks its coach, its always after a loss, usually a loss which breaks the camel's back. But the Crows won last week.

The decision not to renew his contract was made after the bad loss to west coast, but held off a week to avoid pissing on nigel smart's parade.

Are the Demons the real thing?They seem to go ok in all even years ??

Are the Demons the real thing?They seem to go ok in all even years ??

seems we are this year (the real thing)....
fucking go Dees......I will be back home in Melbourne to wtach them win the premiership.

I am starting to feel that Port Adelaide may be the team to beat this year. But go the Lions :)

Are the Demons the real thing?They seem to go ok in all even years ??

Did everyone miss them getting done by 12 goals?

Port Adelaide got done by 90 points.

Port Adelaide will do well, because their finals' nemesis, Collingwood, won't be their to haunt them when it counts.

I know Adelaide's season looks really bad on paper. We do however have an extremely low "average losing margin", and an extremely high "average winning margin"...

Imagine if we won a few of those close games.... :P

Did everyone miss them getting done by 12 goals?

yep...missed that one

I would hope that most of you that didn't include the Demons in your final 8 have now changed your mind.

I know Adelaide's season looks really bad on paper. We do however have an extremely low "average losing margin", and an extremely high "average winning margin"...

Imagine if we won a few of those close games.... :P

Hahahaha... The irony.

I would hope that most of you that didn't include the Demons in your final 8 have now changed your mind.

Well I guess I have to concede that a side who travel outside of their home ground about 3 times a year has a chance of playing in the finals.... every 2 years.

No comment on your 141 point loss? Neil Craig, our saviour!

I'm still not taking the demons seriously and assuming that they won't be much of a threat come finals time. I reckon port vs Brisbane for Grand final, with St Kilda the wild card. But then I also thought Adelaide were going to be good this year, so what do I know??

When a team sacks their coach they always win their next game. The crows winning streak has begun!

Hawthorn going to beat Melbourne this week?

It's funny you ask that, because no, generally speaking every single side who gets its coach sacked wins the next match - but this won't even work for Hawthorn. They are that shit.

See at Collingwood, when we want to sack our coach, we ask them politely to resign. They stay on for the remainder of the season and play youngsters. Then, everything is hunky dory.

Tony Shaw is an example.

Collingwood is all class.

Lol.

It's funny you ask that, because no, generally speaking every single side who gets its coach sacked wins the next match - but this won't even work for Hawthorn. They are that shit.


hmmm words of wisdom from a south australian football fan ( to be taken with a grain of salt )

hmmm words of wisdom from a south australian football fan ( to be taken with a grain of salt )

So you're arguing Hawthorn are not shit?

Shane Crawford even disagrees with you.

no....hawthorn are shit......but how can you underestimate Melbourne this year...regardless of whether they have played outside the G twice or 20 times, they are on fire this year.

I just want to see The Dockers higher than the Eagles and I'm reasonably happy. If Dockers bet Eagles in the next derby, they are in the 8 for sure.

Anybody in the 8 but the swans. Brisbane is still the team to beat. They scored nearly 200 points a couple of weeks ago. Port never seem to rise come finals time even though they are my team and I'd love to see them win.

Hawthorn to be a force in 3-4 years. Go the Mighty Hawks! We will soar once more.

And now the Dees one game clear on top...BRING IT ON :rock:

we'll see, we'll see lol

excellent! a port adelaide player suspended..... its all falling into place for melbourne.

But realistically, how longs it been since Melbourne won a game in Adelaide? I heard something like a few years. As much as im happy that we beat the 3 bottom sides over the last few weeks and not have an upset, i dont think we've played well enough to beat port in Adelaide. Hopefully though the players have been focusing on this game and will put up a good fight!

Ive said it before and ill say it again, GO MELBOURNE! :horse: :horse: :jippo:

don't worry mate...have a bit of faith...if we were ever going to win over in Adelaide then it would be now.....I truly believe that this year we are the better team so the odds are with us.......
I'm coming home to OZ in September....u think I'll be home just in time to watch the Dees win the big one?

No doubt you'll see them in a home final - even if they don't earn it.

You don't like it Yob then go and show support for your team when they do have home finals in Adelaide.

You don't like it Yob then go and show support for your team when they do have home finals in Adelaide.

I did you moron. I have also been to 2 port finals, although I don't support them. I have also travelled to Melbourne for 4 finals - 3 preliminary finals and the "home" semi final against Melbourne.

Well tell the other dropkick Adeliade supports who don't go to finals matches that let every Adelaide supporter that goes, to actually attend. Sub 30 000 crowds are a disgrace for finals footy, a la the two South Australian teams last year. There is no reason why, with your self proclaimed massive member base (enough to fill AAMI Stadium without general admission), you can't fill the stadium, even if it is week one of the finals.

No doubt you'll see them in a home final - even if they don't earn it.

Well one would be inclined to think they will earn it if they keep playing they way they have.
and...what dynamoultraclean said

Another piss poor attendance at AAMI stadium today for a TOP OF THE TABLE clash between PORT ADELAIDE and Melbourne. What was it? 30,000? Just goes to show Adelaide people don't want finals football.

Another piss poor attendance at AAMI stadium today for a TOP OF THE TABLE clash between PORT ADELAIDE and Melbourne. What was it? 30,000? Just goes to show Adelaide people don't want finals football.


melbourne V port @ MCG, round 4: 20,093

port v melbourne @ Football Park, round 19: 30,072


hmmm?

Well tell the other dropkick Adeliade supports who don't go to finals matches that let every Adelaide supporter that goes, to actually attend. Sub 30 000 crowds are a disgrace for finals footy, a la the two South Australian teams last year. There is no reason why, with your self proclaimed massive member base (enough to fill AAMI Stadium without general admission), you can't fill the stadium, even if it is week one of the finals.

Here's the finals crowds from last year at Football Park:

Adelaide v West Coast: 38,641

Port Adelaide V Essendon: 36,557

Port Adelaide V Sydney: 33,968


Full of shit by any chance?

I'd be inclined to say yes. Yes.

Predicting the Top 8 at end of season based on only the past 3 weeks form is a classic of AFL - smart media brainiacs included...

I can't tell you anything - I have no idea!! - Melbourne very well could bomb out, I doubt Geelong are real deal, West Coast are better than everyone thinks, Port will come back to Top 4 as their players come back etc.. who really knows.

But one things for sure, it won't look like what it now looks like!


I'm glad to say you we're wrong about Geelong, but then again the cats have a history of getting to the finals and then choking - I will keep my fingers crossed though!

Here's the finals crowds from last year at Football Park:

Adelaide v West Coast: 38,641

Port Adelaide V Essendon: 36,557

Port Adelaide V Sydney: 33,968


Full of shit by any chance?

That's still pathetic for a 2 town team with a member base of 40,000 + members. There would be home and away games during the season that would attract greater attendances.

I think what Yob meant above by not earning it is that 'one final in Melbourne' rule. And I agree. Its not often I agree with Mr Yob, but its a stupid rule. A few times already, in the past, some teams have had to come to Melbourne and play a Melbourne based side even though the non Victorian club had earnt a home final. As a Victorian, I must be the only one that thinks this rule is a joke. Essendon (against West Coast), Carlton (also against West Coast) have benfited from that rule as did Melbourne (against the Adelaide Crows in 2002). Basically, The non Victorian clubs had to play their 'home' final in Melbourne agaisnt Melbourne based sides even though all things being equal, the final should have been played at the venue of the interstate side. I'm just thankful my team Collingwood has never benefitted from that rule. I would hate to think they ever would. Really, its a stupid rule and the sooner they get rid of it, the better. Not that the AFL havent tried mind you. They tried desperately to avoid that situaton last year, but the MCC, the other party to the 'one final in Melbourne' contract, being the misfits that they are, didnt want to know about it. They are holding the AFL to the contract. It was a contract signed after the completion of the Great Southern Stand, and whilst a contract is a contract, some common sense should prevail. The AFL offered the MCC compensation dollars, but still, the MCC threatened they would sue for breach of contract.

If the finals are all about trying to decide the champion team for the year, then this rule must go.

I'm glad to say you we're wrong about Geelong, but then again the cats have a history of getting to the finals and then choking - I will keep my fingers crossed though!

Yep happy to be wrong as I love seeing Geelong get up there.. but I was right about Port wasn't I !! And I don't think I was wrong about the Eagles either based on last 2 weeks although they may not yet make it ..

Anyway what a difference 2 weeks makes since that 'And now the Dees one game clear on top...BRING IT ON' comment by aussieinsoho :D

I remain to be proven wrong but the Sainters once again look in ominous touch heading into the finals - though really anyone tipping against a Port vs Brissy GF is a brave soul - particularly if both teams finish Top 2 which based on probabilities is likely.

The other best outcome is a Saints vs. Cats GF - that would be awesome! (With the Sainters to get up by a goal snapped by the G-Train at the 31th minute mark :D)

Bloody Eagles are peaking at the right time and the Dockers have injury worries now so I just hope to hell the Docker's can get up and beat the Eagles this weekend in the Western Derby or it's probably goodbye 2004 for the Docker's.

The other best outcome is a Saints vs. Cats GF - that would be awesome! (With the Sainters to get up by a goal snapped by the G-Train at the 31th minute mark :D)

Lol, in your dream. More like Scarlett playing the bejesus out of the G-Train and him ony getting one or two :D. My Cats will do better than most expect, just you wait and see, but can we win the big one? That's probably not for this year, but watch out 2005!

stu

Current betting odds for Grand Final:

Brisbane 1.5
Port 3.4
St Kilda 5.2
Geelong 6.6
Melbourne 15
Sydney 25
Essendon 39
West Coast 64
Fremantle 129
Kangaroos 209

Probably about right, although I'd probably rate the first four closer together, and Sydney and West Coast a little higher. I wouldn't change the order. I think Brisbane deserve to be favourite, but probably more like at 2.2 or so.

You don't like it Yob then go and show support for your team when they do have home finals in Adelaide.

You should be glad to know that the Port final this Friday is on track to be a sellout by Thursday night. Thanks for your concern.

And so it bloody well should.

Backtracking through this thread was intresting. Melbourne got belted twice at AAMI Stadium, didn't win a match for what 5 weeks... and got bundled straight out of the finals. Port smashed their season average and got 40,000 to their first final, and have sold over 42,000 to this friday's match as of noon today. dynamowhatever makes a whole bunch of scathing remarks that all get blown out the water.

The wisdom of a South Australian wins through once again.

Yob, go easy, son...

Remember, no need to go all bigFooty on his candy arse! ;)

Well they're hyping up a Mooney v Brown match-up on Saturday night.... I hope for one that Mooney smashes the bejesus out of Brown early on and gets him out of the game. Our backs should be able to hold the rest of their forwards. Then we can take it from there.... it is a long shot, but I'm feeling suprisingly confident!
stu

Our backs should be able to hold the rest of their forwards.

easier said than done. The lions scored more points than any other team this year. Yet they do not have an individual top 10 goal kicker. Their top individual is no 14 in the AFL and is not even a forward.

You should be glad to know that the Port final this Friday is on track to be a sellout by Thursday night. Thanks for your concern.


Officially Sold OUT!!! News report said over 50,000 sold!

Officially Sold OUT!!! News report said over 50,000 sold!

Excellent!

Well done Port.

Officially Sold OUT!!! News report said over 50,000 sold!

They used to be about the football, man.

lol

Essendon and Hawthorn for the GF........interesting prediction..............I thinks, albeit it with personal prejudices, the Power will overcome finals Yips and at least make the GF. And now I wait for the responses from the majority telling me how stupid I am, how Port suck, and how I don't support (enter own name's favourite team) etc etc.

Hmmmm......

Actually Pikey, I have a terrible feeling that Port might just go all the way this year. You are playing with injuries and winning. You can only get better. If Port peak by getting back the majority of their players, it could be another nightmare for Victoria coming true.

Nostradamus, thy name is Amaruu???

prediction for 2005

Geelong
Sydney
Brisbane (I can dream...)
Port Adelaide
St Kilda
West Coast
Carlton
Adelaide

just a list for the fun of it, without any real deep thinking.

Heres mine but its really too soon too say with any surety.

Just for fun.

Port
St Kilda
Geelong
Brisbane
West Coast
Sydney
Melbourne
Carlton

Maybes
Collingwood
Essendon

Well before I tell you my top eight. I have a few predictions, Geelong and the Saints will slump and not even make the final eight. New risers are Fremantle and the Crows.

My Ladder ( In Order )

Port Adelaide
Essendon
Brisbane
West Coast
Melbourne
Sydney
Adelaide
Fremantle
---------------
Kangaroos
Saints
Richmond
Geelong
Bulldogs
Carlton
Collingwood
Hawthorn

Then Port and Brisbane will compete for the Grand Final again, and Port will win again.

Dark Horse for winning the Grand Final: West Coast

And a little extra, Brownlow medallist is going to be Chris Judd again.

Richmond will win the spoon again. I saw Hawthorn v Richmond in round 21 and they were a rabble. They, like Hawthorn, won't get much better in a hurry - but they are by no means able to get off the bottom of the ladder.

Heres my brothers predictions, he thought mine was stupid and wants to send in his. :)

My brother has extremely little knowledge on the game of football. Therefore, i had decided to take it upon myself to educate you in all in giving my predictions for next year.

Port Adelaide
St Kilda
Brisbane
Sydney
West Coast
Essendon
Fremantle
Hawthorn
------------
Geelong
Melbourne
Collingwood
Kangaroos
Carlton
Bulldogs
Richmond
Adelaide

Premiership - St Kilda
Dark Horse - Sydney
Brownlow - Chris Judd
Dark Horse - Adam Simpson

port adelaide (primus and francou back... holy shit!)
west coast (gardiner back)
geelong
st kilda
carlton (denis pagan)
brisbane (found out)
fremantle
kangaroos

sydney
adelaide (will improve - young guns hentschell and reilly are showing a lot)
essendon
melbourne (overrated rubbish, club captain has no leadership qualities)
collingwood
hawthorn
richmond
bulldogs