Looks like another Robinson's project is in the works. There are not much properties along Manila Golf left available as most are already spoken for. I wonder if the property mentioned is the one beside Fairways Tower and Pacific Plaza or the lot beside BoniRidge on the opposite end? Saan kaya ito. Mmmm....

Beside the Lot of Chateu De Noble :gossip: ...Lets hope it will be next year, so that RLC can fully concentrate on the newest project in South.

Thanks for the inside scoop bevepi! :) :) :)

^^ Hindi naman kaya siya masabon niyan? :D

Hindi naman siguro. I sincerely hope not.

Hindi naman siguro. I sincerely hope not.

Hindi naman kaya siya masabon niyan?

Lets just hope not... :bow: so that I could still feed new and fresh info..

Mabuti naman kung ganoon.
Guess they've finally announced the purchase
at mukhang interesado pa on a fourth lot sa FBGC ha. :)

RLC acquires 3rd lot at Fort Bonifacio from ALI
The Manila Bulletin, September 4, 2006
By James A. Loyola


Robinsons Land Corporation has acquired its third lot in the Fort Bonifacio Global City from Ayala Land Inc. for development into a high-end residential condominium.

RLC high rise buildings general manager Danilo Ignacio said in an interview reporters that it is a 2,000-square meter prime property with a great view as it covers three corners and faces the rotunda.

Ignacio declined to reveal the price of the property since they acquired it from ALI at a "good discount" since RLC is a repeat buyer. "They may not want other developers to know how much we got it for," he said.

At the starting rate of about P120,000 per square meter in the area, the lot would have a market rate of around 240 million.

Ignacio said the lot is ideal for an upscale residential development which enjoys strong demand from Filipinos in the United States.

He said they will probably launch the project and start pre-selling the units early next year with target turnover of the first unit by 2008.

RLC has acquired one lot at Fort Bonifacio for development every year and would consider acquiring anther lot next year — depending on the performance of this latest project, Ignacio said.

He said they are also interested in the large tract of land adjacent to the Ayala development (Promenade) in Fort Bonifacio that is being sold by the Bases Conversion Development Authority (BCDA).

Meanwhile, Ignacio said they are studying the market for retirement homes to determine the ideal site and facilities sought by prospective retirees as part of the group of developers tapped by the Philippine Retirement Authority.

"I have hired someone to spearhead this new segment and he is going around to look into both the demand and supply side of the business," said Ignacio adding that his point man will report on the requirements of retirees as well as ideal sites for development.

He noted that retirement homes and villages overseas are a mix of luxurious single-detached units to medium rise developments. "They do not have to be next to a hospital as long as they have access to good medical facilities and are easy for doctors to visit regularly," Ignacio said.

Pic of FBGC (with Fifth Avenue Place in the background) taken by Tigs as his plane was landing. Thanks Tigs. :)

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b84/tigidig14/manila/IMG_2213.jpg

RLC acquires 3rd lot at Fort Bonifacio from ALI
The Manila Bulletin, September 4, 2006
By James A. Loyola

He said they will probably launch the project and start pre-selling the units early next year with target turnover of the first unit by 2008.

Is this correct? Diba the 5th ave place is due december 2008, and McKinley Park is even later?

Yes that date is too soon.

Do we know the exact location of this parcel? From previous postings, I can just surmised that it is by SOMA, since that is one of the quadrant that has obvious open spaces.

Misquoted/Misprint malamang...

Bong sabi ni Bevepi katabi raw ng Chateau De Noble so it's by crescent park.

wow doon ulit. feel ko congested na doon. or maybe i am wrong.

hehe nagwawala na talaga ang mga taga essensa at nawala ang view nila!

Actually it's quite possible that 5th ave. place is deliverable by Dec 08 as it's over 2 years away and looks like it will top off in 6 to 8 months!

bustero, you are correct that 5th is on time. I think the one in question is the one located at the parcel they just purchased.

how many floors is this again?

how many floors is this again?

This is a 38-storeys residential condo..

Ill gather more info then post the exact location..

FAP is ahead of schedule in construction. FYI

hehe nagwawala na talaga ang mga taga essensa at nawala ang view nila!

Actually it's quite possible that 5th ave. place is deliverable by Dec 08 as it's over 2 years away and looks like it will top off in 6 to 8 months!


Im sure. Kawawa naman yung Essensa residents na mabablock yung view ng American cemetery :bash: . Yung unit ng sister in law overooking South Forbes, ok pa rin. hehehe

Aside from the American Cemetery, mawawala din pihado yung Airport/Airplane as well as Manila Bay views ng Essensa (South facing) units when 5th Avenue gets built. Malamang duon sila actually nagwawala more so than losing the view of the American Cemetery. If there is any good thing to come out of this though is that more Chinese/Tsinoys can now buy into Essensa na since there will be no more cemetery view which is a no no in traditional Chinese culture. Fifth Avenue na ngayon ang magiging view nila instead on that side of the unit/bldg.

Took this picture December 1, 2006.

This picture is for Akaflorestoo/Gilbert. Gilbert, got your Thanksgiving greetings! Thank you! :)

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i143/cynchyap/BGC%20-%202006/IMG_0424.jpg

The story behind this picture: The Bonifacio Global City (BGC) police blew his whistle when he saw me take this picture. That's the "best" close-up picture that I have ! Nagulat ako ng pumito yung police! :lol:

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i143/cynchyap/BGC%20-%202006/IMG_0423.jpg

essensa os really beautiful until now...

Maraming salamat Cynch. You are truly a very valuable resource, especially for expats like me. You really win my business moving forward.

And to everyone, I'm back. Missed you all. So what juicy stuff did I miss :-) ?

Maraming salamat Cynch. You are truly a very valuable resource, especially for expats like me. You really win my business moving forward.

And to everyone, I'm back. Missed you all. So what juicy stuff did I miss :-) ?

Hello AkafloresToo/Gilbert!

Great to "see" you here again!

Visit this thread for more updates on Bonifacio Global City (BGC):
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=404967&page=10

Maraming salamat Cynch. You are truly a very valuable resource, especially for expats like me. You really win my business moving forward.

And to everyone, I'm back. Missed you all. So what juicy stuff did I miss :-) ?

And visit also the Samahan Thread. We have a Bonifacio Global Cityzens (BGCityzens) thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=405314&page=16

from RLC website: http://robinsonsproperties.com.ph/FAP_december06.php

36.17% complete, 45 days ahead of the Overall Work Schedule
Schedule of topping off is on 31 March 2007
992,000 safe man hours reached last 2 December2006
Structural Works up to 29th Floor
Masonry Works from Ground Floor up to 25th Floor
Exterior Wall poured up to 21st Floor

http://robinsonsproperties.com.ph/images/Construction/fap/fap1202061.jpg

^^ Great updates! Thanks Cynch and Bong. That's very good news. Hope they keep up the pace para Bong can get the keys to his unit sooner. We can then get to enjoy Fort Boni with our other ka-tropa. :) :) :)

No prob Boe. We also have parking spaces. With my unit and Anthony (barcat) we can definitely PAAAARTEE! Although my choice of music will be the 70s...

Sagot ko ang talaba basta si Barcat ang magbubukas at si Vic (gasrock) ang magluluto.

No prob Boe. We also have parking spaces. With my unit and Anthony (barcat) we can definitely PAAAARTEE! Although my choice of music will be the 70s...

Sagot ko ang talaba basta si Barcat ang magbubukas at si Vic (gasrock) ang magluluto.

i'll bring my appetite :lol:

^^ Hehehe...:) :) :)

Same same with me guys. Of course welcome din kayo in my humble abode when it ever gets finished. Pasensiya na pero wala nga lang akong balcony to do any BBQing so sa roof top nalang para may pool pa! :) :) :)

We will do a Party hopping event kung sakali. We will start at FAP (akaflorestoo & barcats condo) for appetizer, then hop to Serendra (bartman & edmondtanso) for main course, Fairways Tower (3cr - tama ba?) for dessert, Grand Hampton (gasrock & stlito condo) for dessert and finally Greenbelt's residence (jun_of) for coffee.

Sama lahat ng SSC'ers. Maybe someon can invite Mang Piping. Baka kapag pumunta, ma bigyan tayo ng balato sa fortunes niya :-)

^^ Marapat lamang na tagalugin mo ang iyong tanong at imbitasyon para kay Mang Piping nang sa gayon ay magkaunawaan kayong dalawa. :D Pag ginawa mo iyon, sa aking sapantaha ay mapapayag nyo siya na dumalo sa inyong pagtitipon. :colgate:

Mang Tomasino

Aba Ok yan ha. May isang problema. Kasya kaya lahat tayo sa mga condo units for the hopping na yan, specially sa unit ko 50sm lang? Siguro by batch pwede.

12.02.06

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/Photo_120206_004x.jpg

That's forumer KevinB on the left. :tongue2:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/Photo_120206_006x.jpg

barcat, hindi naman matutulog ang mga invitees sa condo mo :-) If ever, SRO puede na :-)

Thomasian, man that was painful reading your post. It reminded me when I was in high school reading Ibong Adarna. Let me see if I can compose a purely tagalog invitation for Mang Pipin. Also, thanks for the pix. With 5-6 stories left, it will not be as tall as its neighboring buildings.

We will do a Party hopping event kung sakali. We will start at FAP (akaflorestoo & barcats condo) for appetizer, then hop to Serendra (bartman & edmondtanso) for main course, Fairways Tower (3cr - tama ba?) for dessert, Grand Hampton (gasrock & stlito condo) for dessert and finally Greenbelt's residence (jun_of) for coffee.

Sama lahat ng SSC'ers. Maybe someon can invite Mang Piping. Baka kapag pumunta, ma bigyan tayo ng balato sa fortunes niya :-)

Yup tama ka FT nga Bong. Wow parang roving Rave party yan ah. Aba game ako diyan sa planong yan. :) :) :)

No prob Boe. We also have parking spaces. With my unit and Anthony (barcat) we can definitely PAAAARTEE! Although my choice of music will be the 70s...

Sagot ko ang talaba basta si Barcat ang magbubukas at si Vic (gasrock) ang magluluto.

i'll bring my appetite :lol:

We will do a Party hopping event kung sakali. We will start at FAP (akaflorestoo & barcats condo) for appetizer, then hop to Serendra (bartman & edmondtanso) for main course, Fairways Tower (3cr - tama ba?) for dessert, Grand Hampton (gasrock & stlito condo) for dessert and finally Greenbelt's residence (jun_of) for coffee.

Sama lahat ng SSC'ers. Maybe someon can invite Mang Piping. Baka kapag pumunta, ma bigyan tayo ng balato sa fortunes niya :-)

Aba Ok yan ha. May isang problema. Kasya kaya lahat tayo sa mga condo units for the hopping na yan, specially sa unit ko 50sm lang? Siguro by batch pwede.

Hello to Vic, Gilbert, Anthony, Bart, Edmund, Lito!

Hope to see you there at BGCityzens thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=405314&page=31

See you there! Jun --- Hope to see you also at BGC! You're very welcome to join. (BGCityzens and Friends of BGCityzens are welcome!)

60s, 70s, 80s music are welcome ! :lol: :lol:

Looks aestically slim, slender and sneaks up on the skyline without attracting much interest

01.05.07
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/Photo_010507_004x.jpg

from Robinsons Land..

http://www.robinsonsproperties.com.ph/images/Construction/fap/fap0113071.jpg

Thansk for the pix and link. I to say they are 40+ days ahead of sched. is a welcome news to me.

Hi I'm new here.

Anyway, i just talked to an agent of robinson.

May mga available units pa na 1-br.

2.8 to 3M ang price.

Ayos ba yun o overprice na for the project.

wala pang discount yun.
so mga less 100K.

Ano sa tingin ninyo?

good terms though.

is this a good project?

Hi dode. Welcome. We got our 2 br for 5.4M 2 yrs. ago, so ok naman yung price mo. It is a good project kasi Robinsons; although medyo sa edge ng action like piazza and market market.

Me personally I prefer this way so hindi masyadong magulo. If I want magulo, it is only 2-3 blocks away.

Ang bilis nga ng appreciation nya. 2 yrs ago may nakuha pala friend ko na 1br for only 2.2. ngayon nasa 3M na. Tsk.

I'm checking infinity rin kasi magka-presyo lang sila with this kaso mas matagal ang turn-over. Pero mas gusto ko na yata ito hehe.

I have to decide na "daw" kasi paubos na ang units. Hehe.

Ang bilis nga ng appreciation nya. 2 yrs ago may nakuha pala friend ko na 1br for only 2.2. ngayon nasa 3M na. Tsk.

I'm checking infinity rin kasi magka-presyo lang sila with this kaso mas matagal ang turn-over. Pero mas gusto ko na yata ito hehe.

I have to decide na "daw" kasi paubos na ang units. Hehe.

Yes you should decide fast before it runs out of units available...

PM me give kita additonal discount above standard, coz I give additonal discount for SSC members:)

can we compare this to east of galleria? which is better? is this selling more than EOG?

can we compare this to east of galleria? which is better? is this selling more than EOG?

Its really diffrent especially in terms of location since we know Fort Bonifacio sell itselfs because of the many projects that are being built right now it does not need a lot of effort to advertise. Location sell itself.

In Ortigas, well I would say that EOG is the only LOFT & Bi-Level concept in that area.

In terms of selling, honestly FAP sells faster than EOG.

is Fifth Ave going to have its top-off anytime soon? Looking at it.. it seems that they are now on the top floor already..

Guys help me out...

I'm deciding between these 2 units.

1. 5th Ave place exec 1-Br 47 sqm. 5th floor lang sya facing ortigas and the amenities area of the building.

2. McKinley Park Residences. 1-Br 45 sqm. 14 floor loft style.

Now my dilemma... yung sa 5th ave, alang gaanong view. Just the amenities area. Ung sa MPR, meron nga (so far bago matakpan ng ibang building hehe) kaso loft sya kaya in reality yung 45 sqm ay 39 sqm lang--- dahil 6sqm at least ang hagdan. Though maganda naman yung loft style baka saksakan lang ng liit. Unlike sa 5th na usable yung lahat ng 47 sqm.

Yung sa 5th, dec 2008 ang turn-over. MPR dec 2009.

A bit more expensive yung sa 5th pero hindi naman masyadong nalalayo kaya ok na rin.

And also ano ba tingin ninyong mas magandang project between the two?
And comments are welcome.

Thanks in advance.

Guys help me out...

I'm deciding between these 2 units.

1. 5th Ave place exec 1-Br 47 sqm. 5th floor lang sya facing ortigas and the amenities area of the building.

2. McKinley Park Residences. 1-Br 45 sqm. 14 floor loft style.

Now my dilemma... yung sa 5th ave, alang gaanong view. Just the amenities area. Ung sa MPR, meron nga (so far bago matakpan ng ibang building hehe) kaso loft sya kaya in reality yung 45 sqm ay 39 sqm lang--- dahil 6sqm at least ang hagdan. Though maganda naman yung loft style baka saksakan lang ng liit. Unlike sa 5th na usable yung lahat ng 47 sqm.

Yung sa 5th, dec 2008 ang turn-over. MPR dec 2009.

A bit more expensive yung sa 5th pero hindi naman masyadong nalalayo kaya ok na rin.

And also ano ba tingin ninyong mas magandang project between the two?
And comments are welcome.

Thanks in advance.


I would go for the 5th Avenue option. As much as the loft is nice, you save electricity by having a flat unit and you save your energy from climbing up and down stairs every single day. Plus, 5th Avenue is beside Essensa, really desirable location. ^^

I know, the location is a big plus. Ganda ng mga buildings dun, hopefully ang FAP din hehe.

That's actually one major plus factor

5th ave place with condo neighbors 020107:
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/glennbp/IMG_0811.jpg

thanks. so medyo ok anf FAP? any other comments?

Hi dode. Welcome. We got our 2 br for 5.4M 2 yrs. ago, so ok naman yung price mo. It is a good project kasi Robinsons; although medyo sa edge ng action like piazza and market market.

Me personally I prefer this way so hindi masyadong magulo. If I want magulo, it is only 2-3 blocks away.

I agree with you Bong. That's also one of the reasons I chose the South part of Fort Boni to buy into. It's near the action but not actually in it so there is still that much coveted privacy intact for those quiet times. Moreover 5th Ave. and Fairways Tower are also close neighbors to the prestigious and impressive residential towers like Essensa, Regent Parkway, and Pacific Plaza. Another thing I like about our location is the area will actually be at the center of it all, not just to the High Street Mall and Stores at Serendra but also Megaworld's future Forbestown and McKinley Hill commercial areas as well. Tapos a little further South is the Jusmag property pa which will also be redeveloped. It will be a short and quick walking/commuting distance in either direction. :)

I dicided to take 5th ave as against MKP. Yep the location is a lot better than that of MKP. And its almost top off already. Kaya exciting na sya.

Thanks for all the infos.

This forum and site as well is so much help when you're deciding.

I dicided to take 5th ave as against MKP. Yep the location is a lot better than that of MKP. And its almost top off already. Kaya exciting na sya.

Thanks for all the infos.

This forum and site as well is so much help when you're deciding.

Talaga? well, good choice. goodluck dode

Yeah and THANKS so much for your valuble infos, Gene! I can't really thank you enough! I was even sorry at some point ur not my agent! Hehe. But hopefully everything turns out fine with my agent. Minsan mas marami pa yata akong alam sa kanya about RLC projects! Niloloko ko nga sya minsan sabi ko, mag-a-agent na ako! Hahaha.

Pag may referrals ako bigay ko sayo. At pag may tanong ako i will text you again ha. Really nice youre so accomodating sa pangungulit ko.

Thanks again!

Yeah and THANKS so much for your valuble infos, Gene! I can't really thank you enough! I was even sorry at some point ur not my agent! Hehe. But hopefully everything turns out fine with my agent. Minsan mas marami pa yata akong alam sa kanya about RLC projects! Niloloko ko nga sya minsan sabi ko, mag-a-agent na ako! Hahaha.

Pag may referrals ako bigay ko sayo. At pag may tanong ako i will text you again ha. Really nice youre so accomodating sa pangungulit ko.

Thanks again!

No problem dode, u can refer clients so that you can avail the referral program of RLC. you can lessen your retentions when you made some successful refferals, i hope your agent inform you on the program.

Just let me know if you have questions.

Goodluck:)

what you mean lessen the retentions?

hehehe bat ka nagpalit ng avatar?

what you mean lessen the retentions?

hehehe bat ka nagpalit ng avatar?

xxpmrong,

your agent didn't inform you on the referral program? Its a program wherein buyers can refer clients, when successfully closed, certain rates will be deducted to your retention.

Well, Tinangal ung avatar ko:ohno: , nilagay ko ulet kagabe, tinangal ulet..

Is there a problem with my avatar?

Bka ayaw nilang i-carry mo ang robinsons symbol hehe

tsk tsk tsk... di sinabi sakin yan ah.. hmm... tama nga si dode.. mas marami pa kaming napupulot sayo kesa sa agents namin.. makapaghanap na nga ng bibili ng units hehehe ilang % kaya mababawas sa retention? let say I have a retention of 1M?

sabi nung pulpol (hehe) kong agent 1% of the contract price. pero may nagsabi din sa akin na it can go higher depende sa kung sinong agent ang ka-deal mo.

Countdown: 9 days before topping-off.

wow 9 days before topping. That is way ahead of their schedule. Thanks Thomasian.

dodecruz, congrats on your purchase and welcome neighbor. Ano bang floor yung binili mo.

The following pictures are care of our other neighbor, Anthony, who was privvied to get a tour last month. Enjoy.

Outside
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l245/akaflorestoo/2007_outside2.jpg

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l245/akaflorestoo/2007_outside3.jpg

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l245/akaflorestoo/2007_outside.jpg

Unit T on 10th flr looking South:
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l245/akaflorestoo/UnitT10th.jpg

Unit T 10th
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l245/akaflorestoo/UnitT10thlookingsouth.jpg

Unit T on 3rd Floor outside view:
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l245/akaflorestoo/UnitT3rdloutsideview.jpg

Unit T 3rd floor outside view:
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l245/akaflorestoo/UnitT3rdloutsideview3.jpg

Unit T 3rd floor outside view:
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l245/akaflorestoo/UnitT3rdloutsideview2.jpg

Unit A 3rd floor:
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l245/akaflorestoo/unitA3rdA.jpg

Unit A 3rd Floor with hot water connectivity:
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l245/akaflorestoo/unitA3rdbath_hotwtr.jpg

Unit A 3rd Floor cabinetry:
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l245/akaflorestoo/unitA3rdcabinet.jpg

Unit A 3rd floor bathroom:
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l245/akaflorestoo/unitA3rdbath.jpg

I'm on the 5th floor. Unit F. Wanted sana higher floor but since its a bit late na when i got into this, wala nang available. Only smaller units lang ang meron sa higher floor. Ok na rin naman yung 5th floor since the F unit is over-looking the pool area.

Wow ganda ng mga pics. Nakaka-excite! Unit T is almost the same as unit F, right? Only they are opposite each other?

Nice pics!!! Thanks for the pics!

You are welcome and we have Anthony to thank for. I think you are right that T & F are on the same side; except F is overlooking Laguna de Bay (according to their documentation); while T is overlooking Makati/Forbes Park.

like the tall curtain wall glass...the bathroom tiles and kitchen cabinets look nice also...

Magiging kakulay pala sya ng Essensa.

tsk tsk tsk... di sinabi sakin yan ah.. hmm... tama nga si dode.. mas marami pa kaming napupulot sayo kesa sa agents namin.. makapaghanap na nga ng bibili ng units hehehe ilang % kaya mababawas sa retention? let say I have a retention of 1M?

Hehehe Thanks for the compliments. Actually successful referrals will lessen your retention by 1%, so the more closed clients the more chances of getting bigger rebates.

Salamat din sa updates ng project. FAP is looking good, and so with the interior finishes. I haven't been there pa, I will try to find some time to go the site next week for an update.

so if I refer 100 clients My retention is waived?! hehehe

so if I refer 100 clients My retention is waived?! hehehe

Exactly!! so what are u waiting for?? hehehe

wow 100 clients. kung ako sau mag-agent ka na yayaman ka sa 100 clients hehe.

sarap mangarap hehehe

wow 9 days before topping. That is way ahead of their schedule. Thanks Thomasian.

dodecruz, congrats on your purchase and welcome neighbor. Ano bang floor yung binili mo.

The following pictures are care of our other neighbor, Anthony, who was privvied to get a tour last month. Enjoy.

Outside
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l245/akaflorestoo/2007_outside2.jpg

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l245/akaflorestoo/2007_outside3.jpg

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l245/akaflorestoo/2007_outside.jpg

Unit T on 10th flr looking South:
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l245/akaflorestoo/UnitT10th.jpg

Unit T 10th
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l245/akaflorestoo/UnitT10thlookingsouth.jpg

Unit T on 3rd Floor outside view:
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l245/akaflorestoo/UnitT3rdloutsideview.jpg

Unit T 3rd floor outside view:
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l245/akaflorestoo/UnitT3rdloutsideview3.jpg

Unit T 3rd floor outside view:
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l245/akaflorestoo/UnitT3rdloutsideview2.jpg

Unit A 3rd floor:
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l245/akaflorestoo/unitA3rdA.jpg

Unit A 3rd Floor with hot water connectivity:
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l245/akaflorestoo/unitA3rdbath_hotwtr.jpg

Unit A 3rd Floor cabinetry:
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l245/akaflorestoo/unitA3rdcabinet.jpg

Unit A 3rd floor bathroom:
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l245/akaflorestoo/unitA3rdbath.jpg

What a great view from your unit of Manila Polo Club, its surroundings and my cousin's entire house (gray roof). I'm jealous! Good luck and regards!

Chictown, can you tell me which picture shows Manila Polo Club? Sorry I am not that familiar with MPC. Thanks.

Chictown, can you tell me which picture shows Manila Polo Club? Sorry I am not that familiar with MPC. Thanks.

It's the 4th photo from top just past the white bldg. at about 11 o'clock location. Your unit/view of the Forbes Park area is outstanding. You lucky 'devil'. Regards!

I do see. Thanks. At 19th floor, I do have a great view of MPC, albeit the horses might look like ants. Time to buy a telescope.

wow ang laki ng bahay ng pinsan mo. Bigtime siguro.

I do see. Thanks. At 19th floor, I do have a great view of MPC, albeit the horses might look like ants. Time to buy a telescope.

wow ang laki ng bahay ng pinsan mo. Bigtime siguro.

Actually, the wife is my cousin who used to be a flight attendant for an arabian airliner. Her husband, a british, is the big timer in the Philippines for being the kingpin of their company's entire asian operations. He a down to earth individual, loves the Philippines and the people. What a gentleman! You've done very well yourself in your investment. Enjoy and regards!

02.15.07
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/Photo_021507_002x.jpg

Nice! Ang dami nang nadagdag sa BGC pero Pacific Plaza pa rin ang reyna:D

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/6290/dsc02015xk4.jpg

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/1316/dsc02045lr5.jpg

Nice! Ang dami nang nadagdag sa BGC pero Pacific Plaza pa rin ang reyna:D

Amen to that.

Amen to that.

didnt Pacific Plaza started construction before the Asian Crisis?

Thats why its glassy and very elegant... along with McKinley (although backside of McKinley is less flattering) ...maybe if PHI wasnt affected, we would be seeing glass buildings everywhere :nuts:

or maybe king and queen. the American Cemetery view from 5th Avenue Place will be serene. I love it. Pa senti effect. Makes you think about what happened before and what lies ahead.

^^ that's right. Pacific Plaza twins begun construction before the Asian crisis. Very glassy and classy and curvy - you know - the sine and cosine waves. :)

^^ imo when you sell units at US$1M per unit (Pacific Plaza circa 1996) you gotta make look like it's worth millions of dollars :nuts:

... the American Cemetery view from 5th Avenue Place will be serene. I love it. Pa senti effect. Makes you think about what happened before and what lies ahead.

But having a cemetery view is really bad feng shui. Most Chinese will shy away from buying/leasing units because of that view. Definitely they will demand lease rates that are much lower. This was the same marketing problem encountered by RCBC Plaza and The Columns Ayala where units on one side on the higher floors faced the Manila South Cemetery along Kalayaan. Whether you'd like to believe it or not, people said Yuchengco encountered some difficulties after the construction of RCBC Plaza because of the bad feng shui (and of course the Asian Crisis happened). :ohno:

^^ imo when you sell units at US$1M per unit (Pacific Plaza circa 1996) you gotta make look like it's worth millions of dollars :nuts:

You forgot to mention that Essensa East Forbes also had $1M units (at P26 = $1 then). Wow. :nuts:

But having a cemetery view is really bad feng shui. Most Chinese will shy away from buying/leasing units because of that view. Definitely they will demand lease rates that are much lower. This was the same marketing problem encountered by RCBC Plaza and The Columns Ayala where units on one side on the higher floors faced the Manila South Cemetery along Kalayaan. Whether you'd like to believe it or not, people said Yuchengco encountered some difficulties after the construction of RCBC Plaza because of the bad feng shui (and of course the Asian Crisis happened). :ohno:

really is? :( but rumors say rcbc was well-feng shuied to counter the negative forces emanating from it's neighbors - Axa Tower mainly. Pero di ko alam na me negative feng shui din pala pag ang view mo ay cemetery? there's a big difference tho between south cemetery and american cemetery. pag ang unit or view ko ay nakaharap sa south cemetery, mukhang magugulo talaga ang buhay ko. the orientation of the graves makes it very very unsightly. pero pag ang unit ko facing american cemetery, ok lang. kasi maayos naman. hehe...wishing lang po na me unit.

You forgot to mention that Essensa East Forbes also had $1M units (at P26 = $1 then). Wow. :nuts:

oo nga. the penthouse unit according to one source is priced that high.

Buti na lang di kame bumili ng unit dito, hahaha, yun din napansin ng parents ko na ang view ay cemetery, hahaha, pero kung icocompare sa the columns, mas matino yung view ng cemetery ng 5th avenue. May na-post ata ako dati na pic ng the columns from my kuya's office near the gas station, kitang kita nga yung mga dikit-dikit na graves:dizzy:

Kanya nga rin that's the reason why kung napansin niyo the units facing West with views of the Makati skyline were priced higher and yet still sold faster than the side facing East eventhough its cheaper. Bad feng shui nga raw sabi ng mga chinese filipinos who believe in those stuff. Pero the good thing is 5th Ave. still sold out in record time despite having the American cemetery as its neighbor. In fairness though the American Cemetery is not your typical cemetery; infact, looks more like a national park imho especially when you're looking down at it from the high floors of Essensa or 5th Ave. Atleast that's open space one gets to see and not a window or a side of another building di ba.

... really is? :( but rumors say rcbc was well-feng shuied to counter the negative forces emanating from it's neighbors - Axa Tower mainly. Pero di ko alam na me negative feng shui din pala pag ang view mo ay cemetery?...

Yes residents can definitely counter this naman. Hey gotta change the topic na lest residents in FAP file complaints with the Mods against us. Hehe.

oo nga po. hehe...ok, so much with the views. pero sa kin ay ok pa rin ang american cemetery view. i never realized that Columns have good view of South Cemetery. I am now guessing that the unusual orientation of Columns with respect to Buendia Avenue could be to minimize the sight of the cemetery. Para kasing napakadisoriented. OT OT...Sorry po.

back to 5AP tayo. Hehe...

No prob ppl. I have a unit in FAP pero facing Makati. I took the cemetery issue in consideration and I came up with the conclusion na with a cemetery like American cemetery, guaranteed kami na walang potention future development to block the view. Plus I am not a believer of Fung Shiu (sp?).

Kung mayroon man magmumulto, bring it on. At least I can ask it for potential winning lotto #s since they might have an insight :-)

ako din i realized how close the cemetery sa FAP lang when i visited the site last month. eh sa likod din ako, 5th floor pa so kitang-kita pala hehe. ayos lang di naman ako matatakutin. saka para lang naman syang malaking garden na maraming krus.

nagtatalo kami ng friend ko. sabi ko "memorial" cemetery lang sya, meaning wala talagang nakalibing. para sa mga american soldiers during ww2? pero sabi nya hindi daw. syempre di ko rin naman talaga sure if its just memorial lang sya. ano nga ba, guys?

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I hope that those inputed post is primarily for the sole purpose of additional information on existing and future buyers of this particular project and not to disorient them one way or another. Thanks:)

I hope that those inputed post is primarily for the sole purpose of additional information on existing and future buyers of this particular project and not to disorient them one way or another. Thanks:) Don't worry @bevepi, there was no negative intention here. Check my posts plus those of future FAP residents dodecruz, akaflorestoo and francis20. Likewise please know that I do not work for any competing real estate company. I am a friendly SSC forumer here. Change topic na nga po. Ty. :)

^^ I'd have to agree on you as this is a public forum and discussions are encouraged as long as it doesn't deviate much from the core purpose of SSC. Basta wag lang yung mga mapanirang post na hindi naman totoo ha.

^^ I'd have to agree on you as this is a public forum and discussions are encouraged as long as it doesn't deviate much from the core purpose of SSC. Basta wag lang yung mga mapanirang post na hindi naman totoo ha. True true! By the way, a good friend of mine bought a unit in FAP... if ever she invites me over after the turnover... I'd really hope to meet some of you guys there!

^ That's right. just presenting the facts which can be factors to be considered by potential buyers. by the way i am not a future resident ha? :)

^ That's right. just presenting the facts which can be factors to be considered by potential buyers. by the way i am not a future resident ha? :)

Ooops sorry... you used the first person "I" in your posts kasi eh so I thought you owned a unit in FAP. Hehe. :D

I thought sold out na 5th Avenue and in record time pa di ba? May available units pa ba? I know someone who is interested in a 2 bedroom unit but wants a high floor unit facing makati skyline. Meron bang available?

Hehe...akala ko po facing american cemetery.
@ tcchua. assumption lang po yun ah. me disclaimer naman di ba? :D

I thought sold out na 5th Avenue and in record time pa di ba? May available units pa ba? I know someone who is interested in a 2 bedroom unit but wants a high floor unit facing makati skyline. Meron bang available?

ang alam ko nga matagal nang sold out ang 2-br. ang mga naiwan na lang ay mga 1-br saka may isang exec 1br sa 3rd flr. but belavi (or gene) can answer ur question more accurately. :banana:

I know it has been sold out for a long time na. If I were to speculate, these units might be from poor souls (not from the cemetery :=>) that bought at presale and stopped paying in the middle of the contract. Since financing is in-house, once they stop paying, it is repossessed (not possessed as n exorcist) by RLC and reopened to the public.

^^ Thank you for the response dodecruz and Bong/Akaflorestoo. Yup yun din kasi ang alam ko. OK so these are the type of units in the same situation that Smoking Gun also mentioned Megaworld is re-selling in another thread. I wonder if Robinson's sell such units at the original selling price originally bought at or new higher prices na (Kindly let us know Gene/Bevepi)? Salamat ulit! :)

As a business, I am sure they would sell it at the highest prevailing price.

This is one of the pitfalls of buying at presale.

Don't worry @bevepi, there was no negative intention here. Check my posts plus those of future FAP residents dodecruz, akaflorestoo and francis20. Likewise please know that I do not work for any competing real estate company. I am a friendly SSC forumer here. Change topic na nga po. Ty.

Good to hear that tcchua.

I thought sold out na 5th Avenue and in record time pa di ba? May available units pa ba? I know someone who is interested in a 2 bedroom unit but wants a high floor unit facing makati skyline. Meron bang available?

3cr,

Ill check the availabilty if there still available 2BR.


I know it has been sold out for a long time na. If I were to speculate, these units might be from poor souls (not from the cemetery :=>) that bought at presale and stopped paying in the middle of the contract. Since financing is in-house, once they stop paying, it is repossessed (not possessed as n exorcist) by RLC and reopened to the public.

exactly akaflores, sometimes there are some unavoidable circumstances that arises as we go along, so whether we like it or not, this cirmstances are inevitable.

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/1717/3973348992f640c26d5be74uo7.jpg
photo by Geourgina (flickr)

^^ nice! ang ganda ng pic na yan, thanks for sharing:) talagang nasa isang line lang sila hehe... di naman pala ganun ka-freaky yung cemetery eh:nuts:

ganda ng shot

BTW, from the RLC-HRBD website...

Progress photo as of March 3, 2007

http://www.robinsonsproperties.com.ph/images/Construction/fap/fap0303071.jpg

48.27% complete
Schedule of topping off is on 16 February 2007
1,519,000 safe man hours reached last 03 March 2007
Masonry Works from Ground Floor up to 33rd Floor
Exterior Wall poured: Ground floor up to 36th Floor

galing ng photo. this tower was topped off real fast!~

^^ Yup I agree Francis. So far so good ang bilis nga at maganda ang pagkakagawa ng Fifth Avenue. So one year to go for finishing or will it be even sooner ba before turnover of this project? Btw which floors have full size (floor to ceiling) windows? Lahat ba ng floors or certain lower floors lamang?

Yup very clearly topped off na to, from afar you can see it's not much taller than Essensa though.

^^ Yeah mukha ngang magkasingtaas silang dalawa from the pic. Is that actually the case?

^^ Yup I agree Francis. So far so good ang bilis nga at maganda ang pagkakagawa ng Fifth Avenue. So one year to go for finishing or will it be even sooner ba before turnover of this project? Btw which floors have full size (floor to ceiling) windows? Lahat ba ng floors or certain lower floors lamang?

only corner units have wall to ceiling windows. about 6 units per floor. really beautiful. :banana:

^^ Yeah I agree very nice indeed dodecruz. No wonder I know somebody who is/was very much interested in a higher floor 2 bedroom corner unit facing Makati. Unfortunately for him Fifth Avenue is already sold out. :)

Yup very clearly topped off na to, from afar you can see it's not much taller than Essensa though.From SLEX, you'll see that Essensa is taller than it, which makes Essensa really taller than it because from that vantage point, FAP should've appeared taller from that view if they are of the same height.

Yeah I agree very nice indeed dodecruz. No wonder I know somebody who is/was very much interested in a higher floor 2 bedroom corner unit facing Makati. Unfortunately for him Fifth Avenue is already sold out.

3cr,

I have 2BR from my client, He wanted to transfer to TFR..I'll email you the info.

^^ Great! Thanks Gene I look forward to it! I'll advice my friend as soon as I get the info. Boe/3cr :) :) :)

Great! Thanks Gene I look forward to it! I'll advice my friend as soon as I get the info. Boe/3cr

Thanks too boe, just let me know.

^^ Anytime Gene. Already replied to your PM. Look forward to the info. Yup will do. Boe/3cr :)

Hi Gene/Bevepi.
I finally spoke to my friend and according to him he decided not to purchase a condo in Fort Bonifacio anymore because he felt it would be cheaper and less problematic to stay in a Hotel whenever he goes for vacation in the Philippines. Ang biro nga niya eh makikitira na lang daw siya sa akin! Sorry bro things didn't turn out the way we hoped. Maybe next time.

Hi Gene/Bevepi.
I finally spoke to my friend and according to him he decided not to purchase a condo in Fort Bonifacio anymore because he felt it would be cheaper and less problematic to stay in a Hotel whenever he goes for vacation in the Philippines. Ang biro nga niya eh makikitira na lang daw siya sa akin! Sorry bro things didn't turn out the way we hoped. Maybe next time.

K lang po. No problem. Next deal ulet..:)

^^ Thanks Gene. Di Bale I'm sure there will be a next time. Check the FT thread since Blitzwing is looking. He/she may end up liking that corner unit in 5th Avenue Residence with views of Polo Club, Makati skyline, and I bet the majestic Manila Bay as well. There is also buzz that the PSE Unified Trading Floor may be erected in the original Institutional Row area/lot along Fifth Ave. (across Boni High Street) which will essentially make FBGC's Fifth Ave. the Ayala Avenue of Makati which should help push prices/rents along Fifth Avenue higher. If it materializes this will definitely be good news for Fifth Avenue Residence and FT unit owners! :) :) :)

For our friends who bought at Fifth Avenue Place..... I took this picture last March 30, 2007.

L-R: Fifth Avenue Place, Essensa (composed of 2 towers - Cameron and Lawton Towers); Regent Parkway and Fairways Tower.

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taken by mattroyal from flickr

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Fifth Ave. construction pics courtesy of Lauren. Enjoy! :)
May 27, 2007
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May 27, 2007
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Latest construction update as of May 2007.

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^^^ Parang ang kitid ng corridor. Parang isang tao lang ang pwedeng dumaan. Ano ang width ng corridor?

^^^ Parang ang kitid ng corridor. Parang isang tao lang ang pwedeng dumaan. Ano ang width ng corridor?


good point. maybe there's a little camera distortion?

^^ mukhang compressed pictures kasi impossible naman na development ng Robinsons eh, the corridors are like that. Yung ibang less-credible developers pa siguro.

Hope we can see more pictures?

kakatakot naman yan. sana nga distortions lang. yeah, more pics pls!! :)

Hi I'm new here.

I'm deciding between 5th Ave Place and Bellagio 2. Please help me with some info.

What's the difference between the 2 projects? Which is better? Are they of the same category? (ie. mid cost? high end?) which is of better location? has better ammenities? which is a better developer, robinsons or megaworld?

any comments will be appreciated.

thanks.

Hi I'm new here.

I'm deciding between 5th Ave Place and Bellagio 2. Please help me with some info.

What's the difference between the 2 projects? Which is better? Are they of the same category? (ie. mid cost? high end?) which is of better location? has better ammenities? which is a better developer, robinsons or megaworld?

any comments will be appreciated.

thanks.

Bellagio has better location...it is in crescent west district. 5th ave will complete first for sure. both are about thesame as a developer and about the same market level.

^^ Fifth Avenue is along Millionaires Row and is in a more quiet place although it is just 500 meters away from the commercial area of The Fort. This project will also be finished soon. At present, this area is accessible via public transport going to McKinley, MarketMarket, Serendra area, and FTI on the other side.

Bellagio is in the heart of the business area, proximity to McDonald's, UCC coffee and Sakai Sushi, among others. The turnover date is for quite sometime.

The developers Megaworld and Robinsons are both good. Maybe you can tell us the options you are looking at so each particulars can be weighed.:)

^^ ^^ Fifth Avenue is along Millionaires Row and is in a more quiet place although it is just 500 meters away from the commercial area of The Fort. This project will also be finished soon. At present, this area is accessible via public transport going to McKinley, MarketMarket, Serendra area, and FTI on the other side.

Bellagio is in the heart of the business area, proximity to McDonald's, UCC coffee and Sakai Sushi, among others. The turnover date is for quite sometime.

The developers Megaworld and Robinsons are both good. Maybe you can tell us the options you are looking at so each particulars can be weighed.:)

IMHO, the Bellagio2 is the better choice than the Fifth Avenue. I think you have the locations mixed up. The three Bellagio Towers are just next door south of Boni Ridge along the Manila Golf Course and have more landscaped space and much better amenities than Fifth Avenue. Again, this is just an honest opinion. Regards!:) :)

Hi I'm new here.

I'm deciding between 5th Ave Place and Bellagio 2. Please help me with some info.

What's the difference between the 2 projects? Which is better? Are they of the same category? (ie. mid cost? high end?) which is of better location? has better ammenities? which is a better developer, robinsons or megaworld?

any comments will be appreciated.

thanks.

You may want to check the other projects of Robinsons Land that can fit your requirement.

The Fort Residences & Mc Kinley Park Residences or better yet wait for the The Trion Towers and the The Regis Residences.

Goodluck!

@ bevepi--- Are all the projects of Robinsons similar to each other? I mean yung interior/hallways/lobby/etc. Projects like the ones in mandaluyong vis a vis the ones in fort?

^^ Fifth Avenue is along Millionaires Row and is in a more quiet place although it is just 500 meters away from the commercial area of The Fort. This project will also be finished soon. At present, this area is accessible via public transport going to McKinley, MarketMarket, Serendra area, and FTI on the other side.

Bellagio is in the heart of the business area, proximity to McDonald's, UCC coffee and Sakai Sushi, among others. The turnover date is for quite sometime.

The developers Megaworld and Robinsons are both good. Maybe you can tell us the options you are looking at so each particulars can be weighed.:)

i'm looking at lang sa lower floor ortigas view sa 5th while sa bellagio ay sa higher floor city center view. almost of the same size. kaya lang 5th sa dec 2008 na turn over while billagio2 is dec 2009.

based on my reseach, medyo mas maganda ang mga renderings at promises ng bellagio than 5th.

what do you think ang mas maganda?

IMHO, the Bellagio2 is the better choice than the Fifth Avenue. I think you have the locations mixed up. The three Bellagio Towers are just next door south of Boni Ridge along the Manila Golf Course and have more landscaped space and much better amenities than Fifth Avenue. Again, this is just an honest opinion. Regards!:) :)

I agree with you ChicTown, Bellagio2 is a better choice, and yes, they are in that location at Crescent West along the Manila Golf course.

SuperB0y, I sent a PM to you. Hope you got it.:)

Cheers!:banana:

i'm looking at lang sa lower floor ortigas view sa 5th while sa bellagio ay sa higher floor city center view. almost of the same size. kaya lang 5th sa dec 2008 na turn over while billagio2 is dec 2009.

based on my reseach, medyo mas maganda ang mga renderings at promises ng bellagio than 5th.

what do you think ang mas maganda?

:) @superBOy, you'd be more satisfied if you'd see the subject condos in person and then make your own decision, instead of delegating this to others. What's good for us could be unacceptable to you. Good luck! :) :)

@ bevepi--- Are all the projects of Robinsons similar to each other? I mean yung interior/hallways/lobby/etc. Projects like the ones in mandaluyong vis a vis the ones in fort?

Different project comes in different finishes, because they have different price.
Especially at Fort Bonifacio, they have much better finishes compare to the onwe in mandaluyong. You will be getting for what you are paying.

Email me na lng for more info.

:) @superBOy, you'd be more satisfied if you'd see the subject condos in person and then make your own decision, instead of delegating this to others. What's good for us could be unacceptable to you. Good luck! :) :)

I agree with chictown, we have different opinions on every projects posted in this forum.

Better check the company profile as well. Who has better portfolio. Who has bigger capital and who has a good reputation. Reputability is very important.

Happy hunting:)

I agree with chictown, we have different opinions on every projects posted in this forum.

Better check the company profile as well. Who has better portfolio. Who has bigger capital and who has a good reputation. Reputability is very important.

Happy hunting:)

:) Thanks @bevepi. What I said was just my honest/unbiased opinion and I hope I did not offend anyone at RLC, especially our friend Jon Orillosa. Good luck and regards!:) :)

June 11, 2007

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^^ IMO, the assymetrical top now looks better than the original design in the renderings.

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^^ Wow so very nice TY. Thank you very much for sharing these shots with us. Ganda! :) :) :)

^^ Wow so very nice TY. Thank you very much for sharing this shot with us. Ganda! :) :) :)

WOW!
I've never seen this angle before.

http://www.readyforoccupancy.com/Fort-3.jpg

Latest project construction update from my ocular project inspection last Wednesday June 20, 2007.

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Building facade

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Building drop-off

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Basement parking entrance

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Pool side and the indoor badminton court

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Finished hallway of the 3rd floor

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Kitchen finishes of the JR 1-BR

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Executive 1-BR corner unit

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JR 1-BR Living area

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Bedroom entrance

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Bathroom

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Lobby

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Drop-off point and indoor badminton court taken from the lobby

2' x 2' tiles ba yung nasa hallway?? so halos 4' lang ang lapad nung hallway?

wala bang sinusunod na standard size for hallways?

2' x 2' tiles ba yung nasa hallway?? so halos 4' lang ang lapad nung hallway?

wala bang sinusunod na standard size for hallways?

Pretty good observation. Akala ko angle lang noon picture.

It would be a very interesting to watch people move furniture into their units during moving day. :nuts:

How much are apartments starting at, for these typs of developments

How much are apartments starting at, for these typs of developments

3.0M for a jr-1BR 36 sq mtrs

2' x 2' tiles ba yung nasa hallway?? so halos 4' lang ang lapad nung hallway?

wala bang sinusunod na standard size for hallways?

though maluwag naman, its less than the 1.5 meters standard size ng hallway

Thanks for the pictures. Looks like they are well ahead of their schedule.

yup it looks like standard, medyo na-distort lang yata ng pic. but sana mas nilaparan ng konti

maganda yung mga finishes. The Executive 1-BR is also nice especially the corner unit. The JR 1-BR are compact.

Ahead of schedule ang FAP.

looking at the rooms and the exterior of the bldg., it doesn't look like there is a spot to put your air-con. Where do hi-rise put the air-con nowadays?

^^ from the pictures posted by bevepi... it looks like the units were designed for split type ACs... but what about the condenser units? maybe there's a utility room or some such for them

07-07-07

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i37/llaurenversion3/SSC_0134.jpg

Wow, this building seems to be moving quite fast, and shaping up to be quite nice!

From the Skyway, medyo malabo kasi mabilis takbo namin eh.

07.14.07
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Etong isa medyo malinaw nga, natakpan naman ng water tank. :D

07.14.07
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left side yan diba? then yung kay laquacherra is right side? tama ba?

^^ Uhm, basta magkaibang side yung pictures namin.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1018/964414642_261f50cc49_o.jpg
Photo by tyronne :D

what a contrast between essensa

Part ba ng aesthetic design yung overhead tanks dito?

Your right. Mahirap sa millionaire's row. A development would always be compared to a Grade Triple AAA class building like Essensa. Fifth Avenue is nice. Essensa is grand!

^^Yup, but the same area sa millionaires row, so panalo ang mga Fifth Avenue investors and inis ang mga Essenssa kasi malaki ang price difference nila, hahaha! :hahaha:

^^Yup, but the same area sa millionaires row, so panalo ang mga Fifth Avenue investors and inis ang mga Essenssa kasi malaki ang price difference nila, hahaha! :hahaha:


IMO, not much reason for essensa owners to be inis because the only thing they have in common is just the location...

You can see the Fifth Ave. project in this youtube video which was taken while driving along 5th Avenue going towards McKinley Hill entrance.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkbNkfJ6hmQ

Car ride as per video length takes 2 minutes or less starting from Fort Boni fork. Not too bad if you'd like to take a stroll towards The Fort.

Hi everybody! I am an owner of Fifth Avenue Place too! Nice of my friend to refer this site to me so I can get updated on what's happening with the construction aside from the RLC website. My unit is at the 7th floor. Can I already do an occular inspection?

Hi everybody! I am an owner of Fifth Avenue Place too! Nice of my friend to refer this site to me so I can get updated on what's happening with the construction aside from the RLC website. My unit is at the 7th floor. Can I already do an occular inspection?

Yes. You may do the ocular inspection of the actual units, just fill-up the waiver issued in the office of the contractor at the site..

August 11, 2007

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Thanks Bevepi for the info! :D

Thanks Bevepi for the info! :D

No Problem..:)

Hi everybody! I am an owner of Fifth Avenue Place too! Nice of my friend to refer this site to me so I can get updated on what's happening with the construction aside from the RLC website. My unit is at the 7th floor. Can I already do an occular inspection?

Hi @adbenito. :wave:Welcome to SSC! FAP is shaping up quite nicely.

Hi guys.

I just visited the site of FAP today.

You can do ocular until 10th floor na. But we took the stairs so hanggang 6th floor lang ako (hiningal na ako hehe).

There are some re-open units in the higher floors, those with makati skyline view. Going rate for price per square meter is 82,000 pesos per sqm for re-open units but note that turnover date is only 15 months away at Dec. 2008!

What I like about Robinsons is they have the EASIEST/FRIENDLIEST payment scheme among all the GBC projects.

They offer:
No downpayment
15 months to pay at 0 percent interest -- 30% of contract price
lumpsum payment upon turnover of unit in Dec 2008 -- 70% of contract price

For a studio unit or 1BR unit (FA 36 sqm), you end up only paying around 60K+ pesos per month with no downpayment and no lumpsum or balloon payments! You only pay the remaining 70% balance upon the actual turnover of the unit! Or if you are not liquid, you can apply the 70% balance for a bank-loan with up to 10 years to pay!

The easy payment terms is what reeled me in... and so we just made our reservation today! :)

If you are interested in a unit at FAP, you can PM me and leave your email/contact numbers and I can refer you to my agent. She responds quickly and will give you the choicest deals. There are a few re-open units which I think are great investments but I expect these to be gone very soon.

Good luck to everyone.

ala ka pics ng ocular mo?

@SuperBoy,

Sori, wala akong dala na camera eh. In fact, there is a typhoon now in Metro Manila kaya umuulan ng nag-ocular ako.

Anyway, what you will see is not much different from what is posted in the robinsons website and the pics here.

Medyo sosyal lang ang dating ng immediate neighborhood kasi magaganda talaga ang mga building na katabi ng FAP like Essensa, Regency, etc. So, it kinda increases the market value although FAP's price (currently at 82K per square meter) is reasonable.

I talked with the Engineer who escorted us as we toured the place. He confirmed that 1.2 meter lang ang width ng corridor/hallway area. Pero mas lumalaki ito sa mga door openings (part of their design i guess, to make it easy to move in furniture), nagiging mga 1.8 meter ata ang width ng hallway sa estimate ko.

This narrow hallway I think is the only thing that could have been improved i guess.

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From the Skyway...:D
07.14.07
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^^ Where is this water tank located? I hope it's far enough that it does not become an immediate eye-sore and a real impediment to someone's unit view. Kaasar naman if the unit owner looks out his/her window and see this water tank point blank blocking one's Makati skyline view.

August 20, 2007

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i hope they would hide the water tank. para mas gumanda.

When I went to see a 6th floor unit facing makati area, I didn't notice the water tank at all.

I think the tank just appears big because the photographer was near the tank. It is just a matter of perspective.

^^ I took this FAP pic from the Skyway, will you also tell me that I'm near the tank?


07.14.07
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The water tank is many miles away from FAP right? And based on your shot, you are probably 100 meters away from the tank right? And judging from the height of the Meralco pole and the trees, the tank is around 4 - 5 stories high, right? While FAP is 38 stories.

I think the best judgement would be to go to FAP and view it from there.

As I told you, I went to visit a 6th floor unit at FAP, and it didn't bother me at all. That is my opinion. But perhaps some people would be bothered by a water tank many miles away.

Another forumer here dodeboy i believe, bought a unit at the 5th floor of FAP last Feb 2007, facing the skyway and that tank. Perhaps he could also give his opinion too.

From the photo of dvorak, maybe the others could form their opinion whether the water tank is a significant eye-sore for them. This might not be the same water tank though but it should roughly be the same height and distance from FAP:

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/patok/Beijing%202007/IMG_0660.jpg

The water tank is many miles away from FAP right? And based on your shot, you are probably 100 meters away from the tank right? And judging from the height of the Meralco pole and the trees, the tank is around 4 - 5 stories high, right? While FAP is 38 stories.

I think the best judgement would be to go to FAP and view it from there.

As I told you, I went to visit a 6th floor unit at FAP, and it didn't bother me at all. That is my opinion. But perhaps some people would be bothered by a water tank many miles away.

Another forumer here dodeboy i believe, bought a unit at the 5th floor of FAP last Feb 2007, facing the skyway and that tank. Perhaps he could also give his opinion too.

Ah, I thought, you guys were referring to the water tank on top of FAP. Hindi pala, yung malaking water tank pala sa SLEX yung sinasabi nyo. Don't worry, malayong malayo yun

But still, the water tank on top of FAP is somewhat visible from afar as you can see from my pic, they really should do something to hide it.

Good to hear malayo naman pala yung water tanks. Lapit kasi tingnan from Thomasian/Aaron's pic eh.

Ah, I thought, you guys were referring to the water tank on top of FAP. Hindi pala, yung malaking water tank pala sa SLEX yung sinasabi nyo. Don't worry, malayong malayo yun

But still, the water tank on top of FAP is somewhat visible from afar as you can see from my pic, they really should do something to hide it.

I was also referring about the water tank on top of FAP. :)

The water tank is many miles away from FAP right? And based on your shot, you are probably 100 meters away from the tank right? And judging from the height of the Meralco pole and the trees, the tank is around 4 - 5 stories high, right? While FAP is 38 stories.

I think the best judgement would be to go to FAP and view it from there.

As I told you, I went to visit a 6th floor unit at FAP, and it didn't bother me at all. That is my opinion. But perhaps some people would be bothered by a water tank many miles away.

Another forumer here dodeboy i believe, bought a unit at the 5th floor of FAP last Feb 2007, facing the skyway and that tank. Perhaps he could also give his opinion too.

I guess he transfered to another project of RLC..Who is ur attending agent?

I guess he transfered to another project of RLC..Who is ur attending agent?

Hi,

I PMed you na.

Courtesy of Dxpsycho...

Fifth Avenue Place
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Photo by cfpaderan (http://www.flickr.com/photos/11389539@N05/)

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Courtesy of Dxpsycho...

I wonder what will finish first, this or Fairways Tower?

what was the projected turnover for this project? what is it now? it just seems like this project has been around for a long time.

dec 2008

I wonder what will finish first, this or Fairways Tower? ^^Hehehe...Don't joke like that Robbie. Ikaw din baka maudlot ang move-in nating unit owners. Fairways Tower's turnover is suppose to start on Dec.2007 while Fifth Ave. will be on Dec.2008 pa. Hopefully we can move-in by Jan./Feb. time frame. New year new life! Let's keep our fingers crossed. :)

^^Hehehe...Don't joke like that Robbie. Ikaw din baka maudlot ang move-in nating unit owners. Fairways Tower's turnover is suppose to start on Dec.2007 while Fifth Ave. will be on Dec.2008 pa. Hopefully we can move-in by Jan./Feb. time frame. New year new life! Let's keep our fingers crossed. :)

Hahahahaha! I guess I've become cynical. My fingers have been crossed since 2004 that I don't think I can "un-cross" them anymore. :ohno: Hehehehehehehe!

^^Q1 of 2008 for sure per Philtown press release (see Fairways thread). See you in Manila soon! :)

Pic of Fifth Ave Place(far left) with other condos.

October 25, 2007
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RIOT!!!I like the way you give people the feedback on their condo's. You're doing an excellent job..

i was tempted before to sell my fairways unit and move here sa fifth ave. but when i saw the hallways sa fifth... :ohno:

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update by franzlouis - Flickr (http://flickr.com/photos/18438482@N06/)

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update by franzlouis - Flickr (http://flickr.com/photos/18438482@N06/)

As of Dec. 2. Looking good. Contractor did a good job.

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As of Dec. 2. Looking good. Contractor did a good job.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2154/2080304982_fc6bb6da42_o.jpg

^^ Very Nice both the building and your shot! The effect is quite surreal. How did you do that? :)

5Th Ave. with Essensa and Regent Parkway
Taken by Gilvillagracia (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tigalpo/) (flickr)
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thanks boe. its location is very peaceful and great for jogging.

^^ You're welcome! Yes Bong I agree. South Boni area is unique in that it offers some much coveted peace & quiet and yet still oh so close to the hustle and bustle of the City Center. Best of both worlds talaga! :okay: :okay:

Since Global City is confined to itself, I am sure an entrepreneur will start rental of mopeds and minicarts for mobility within Global City.

^^ Very Nice both the building and your shot! The effect is quite surreal. How did you do that? :)

I was gonna say the actual building is better than that rendering. :lol:

yeah, para syang rendering diba? galing ng pagkakuha!

at least this RLC project did not dissapoint me. indeed, looking good.

Since Global City is confined to itself, I am sure an entrepreneur will start rental of mopeds and minicarts for mobility within Global City.

The electric jeepney will be perfect here.

thanks guys :) 3CR, my reply to how i did it is in the Joya thread. As I pointed, out lighting is key. The cool and bright morning sun on a sunny day makes a world of difference. The sun should be shining on the building rather than backlighting it. I learned the improtance of good lighting from taking pictures during FHM's parties :)

^^ Very Nice both the building and your shot! The effect is quite surreal. How did you do that? :)

which do you think has better facade? fairways or 5th ave?

which do you think has better facade? fairways or 5th ave?
^^ Honestly I like them both! IMHO they are like "relatives" (more so than siblings) - kinda similar looking but not really in the same vein. They are both good looking in my eyes. :)



thanks guys :) 3CR, my reply to how i did it is in the Joya thread. As I pointed, out lighting is key. The cool and bright morning sun on a sunny day makes a world of difference. The sun should be shining on the building rather than backlighting it. I learned the improtance of good lighting from taking pictures during FHM's parties :) ^^ Thanks Jon! :)

which do you think has better facade? fairways or 5th ave?


i like fairways better, exterior-wise. :)

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photo from franzlouis - Flickr (http://flickr.com/photos/18438482@N06/)

Fifth Ave. aerial pic courtesy of iloilocitykid. :)


Fort Bonifacio Global City
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wow! very nice aerial. callling Aaron, can you wipe out the plane window? hehe...thanks for sharing sinj.

between Fairways and FAP, I think FT has better exteriors - better archi. but if I have a unit here at FAP, I'd choose the one facing the cemetery! :okay: though some consider it a bad luck to have your unit facing there.

Fifth Ave. aerial pic http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff7/ssciloilo/S7300409.jpg
courtesy of iloilocitykid. :)

....
.....can you wipe out the plane window?

ok...how bout...

now?............http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i279/tonyboy32/00000000S.jpg from a frustrated airplane window cleaner :)

a lot better tony. i tried it myself, but i can only do so much. thanks man...i wanna visit the cemetery again.

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photo from franzlouis - Flickr (http://flickr.com/photos/18438482@N06/)

Thanks Sinjin. It looks like each floor has a small balcony, or is this just air-conditioner grilles?

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^^ Thanks for clearing up the aerial pic Tony. Very nice indeed. :okay: :okay:

we are lucky na maraming tech whiz pala sa forum natin. ang gagaling.

i like fairways exterior better.. the FAP's exterior looks orderly but at the same time chaotic.. they should do well with the finishing nonetheless, and i guess it would be hard to clean with all those corners.. but i think it compliments essensa well... i agree that FT and FAP looks similar..

south bonifacio really is a peaceful place.. being a stone throw's away from the american battle monument and all.. and i agree @tebs that a unit facing the park would be best.. they manicure the ABM so well that you wouldn't mind looking at the crosses.. just think of gothic art... plus, the fresh air coming from that place... same selling point for lofted units facing ABM in Tuscany private Estate of McKinley Hill.

wow! very nice aerial. callling Aaron, can you wipe out the plane window? hehe...thanks for sharing sinj.

between Fairways and FAP, I think FT has better exteriors - better archi. but if I have a unit here at FAP, I'd choose the one facing the cemetery! :okay: though some consider it a bad luck to have your unit facing there.


Haha, naunahan na ako ni tonyboy. Nalinis ko na rin yan kagabi eh, kaso nalimutan kong i-upload at i-post. Ngayon nawawala, di ko alam kung saan na-save. :nuts: I'll post it na rin pag nakita ko para di naman sayang effort ko. :D

Some photos taken from Makati yesterday afternoon.

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Almost done! :okay: FAP looks better exterior wise that its Gateway/Pioneer cousins.

FAP is my current favorite of RLC projects. Pero why do they make projects that are almost identical?

Perhaps we have to wait for Trion Towers. You might change your favorite @ dunamis. :)

^^ And don't forget the ST.Regis project will also be launched next year (at that lot beside Regent Parkway) so that void between Regent and Fairways Tower will eventually by filled by ST.Regis, RCL's high-end upscale project. The BGC skyline just gets better and better! :okay: :okay:



Global City Skyline
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Robinsons opens new Manila mall

ROBINSONS Land Corp. (RLC) announced that it has opened its second Manila mall, which would open its door to retailers, business process outsourcing (BPO) firms and other commercial establishments.

The mall, Robinsons Otis, is located along Paz Mendoza Gunzon Street in Paco, Manila. The first two levels of the development is devoted to retail and commercial establishments while the three levels on top are set aside for call center office space that can accommodate 700 seats.

Early this year, RLC said it would expand its mall operations in the provinces to include Bacolod, Tagaytay, Bulacan, Tacloban, Dumaguete and Davao. Besides the construction of new malls, the property firm said it is also expanding its first Manila mall and its first shopping center in Bacolod.

The target market for these new malls would depend on where they are located, tailoring these to the environment and the economic make-up of the locale. RLC has opted to veer away from super malls and towards medium-sized shopping centers that are strategically located.

At end-September, RLC’s net income surged 48 percent to P1.82 billion while its earnings before taxes grew 13 percent to P3.03 billion. Gross revenues rose 24 percent to P5.96 billion, 41 percent of which came from its mall business, with the 7-percent increase mainly due to higher rent and strong rental income from almost all malls.

Revenues from its high-rise buildings jumped 60 percent to P2.3 billion due to its projects in Manila and Fort Bonifacio while recurring lease income rose 73 percent to P411 million. RLC’s housing and land development unit posted a 5-percent revenue increase due to completion of projects while its hotel unit showed a 24-percent increment to P658 million mainly from Crowne Plaza Hotel.

RLC’s residential condominium arm recently acquired another property in Fort Bonifacio Global City along the Millionaire’s row at McKinley Drive and Fifth Avenue. From the 1,188-square meter lot, the company plans to develop an upscale twin-tower residential project.

The other properties that RLC is developing in the Fort Bonifacio area include the Fifth Avenue Place, the McKinley Park Residences, The Fort Residences and Trion Towers.

^^ And don't forget also the high-end Medical City-lot project of RLC in Ortigas Center.

I recently visited 5th avenue, looking at 1 bedroom units 47sq meter and the 36 square meter. Finishings are ok inside the unit and common area hallways.

I have checked out a number of projects here in the fort including Fairways, Seibu, Serendra, 5th Ave, Sapphire, Palm Spring Bellagio, Forbeswood. Out of all the condos I like the area of Fairways, Seibu and 5th Ave. Closer to the higher end places like Essensa, One Mckinley, Regent Parkway, Pacific Plaza. Looking to acquire another unit here at the Fort just narrowing it down to those that will turnover in 2008-09 (early). Alot of choices now a days here at the Fort.

Pics of the 3rd floor unit F, 47 sq meter 1bedroom, bad thing about F units it views american cemetary. Little spooky.

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^^ Nice big windows.

Pics of the 3rd floor unit F, 47 sq meter 1bedroom, bad thing about F units it views american cemetary. Little spooky.

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is this ahead of schedule? nice! :banana:

Pics of the 3rd floor unit F, 47 sq meter 1bedroom, bad thing about F units it views american cemetary. Little spooky.

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u288/mrlarryb/09012008231.jpg

nice, garden ang buong paligid. windows are wider than G&W's :)
3rd floor ba talaga yan?

I recently visited 5th avenue, looking at 1 bedroom units 47sq meter and the 36 square meter. Finishings are ok inside the unit and common area hallways.

I have checked out a number of projects here in the fort including Fairways, Seibu, Serendra, 5th Ave, Sapphire, Palm Spring Bellagio, Forbeswood. Out of all the condos I like the area of Fairways, Seibu and 5th Ave. Closer to the higher end places like Essensa, One Mckinley, Regent Parkway, Pacific Plaza. Looking to acquire another unit here at the Fort just narrowing it down to those that will turnover in 2008-09 (early). Alot of choices now a days here at the Fort.

Available pa ba ung exact unit na yan? I like the windows. I wish ganyan windows ko sa Fairways. Do you have pictures of the hallways - is it really that narrow?

Thanks for the pics mrlarryb. Do you have other pics to share? Like the lobby area, exteriors etc. I own there on the 33 floor T unit and very excited of the turnover this end of the year. You guys are a big help to us who reside outside the PI.

nice pics mrlarryb. Thanks.

Welcome future neighbor! I am also an owner there (19th floor). I agree that 5th place together with Fairway have great locations. It is close enough to the action but it also gives you the peace and relax atmosphere because of the lesser traffic congestion.

Don't worry about the cemetery. Like the old saying goes, there are no ghost at the cemetery for they didn't die there. :-)

An agent tried to convince me before to get a unit sa Fifth avenue place - facing the cemetery. He said that there are no actual bodies buried in the American Battle, it's only a memorial place where they placed the names of the soldiers and k9 dogs who died during the war. Is this true?

^^ i think it's true. but given the chance (i mean resources), the idea of having a unit facing the Battle Monument is welcome to me. I just hope the unit will be higher to have a vantage view of the view below.

i just called my agent, may available daw sa 5F (and the price is really low), so two floors higher than the unit above, you think that's good enough? for investment :)

how much ang price ng 5F?