Hello I'm new here. I've found this forum very nice. Can't believe there are so many people like me out there who are interested in developments in the country. My very question to all of you: have you thought of electing your own city mayor? I think our current KL city mayor really SUCKS. He doesnt have any charisma, and what he has done so far is negligible. There are fundamental problems like pollutions (go to Pandan Jaya Station and have a look at the river next to the station), public transportation (sardin packed, smelly and a/c not working LRT trains), filthy low cost apartment areas, garbage recycling system, poverty, indonesian squatters etc etc. What has he been doing?????? We need someone who is passionate towards the city and serves the city folks seriously. We cannot wait for the Federal Government to act!!!

Also, did you realize that a lot of sidewalks downtown are ruined and their tiles are ripped off simply because some really bad contractor after installing lamp posts etc did not do a proper job on putting back the tiles. For those who drive only may not realize this problem. The same contractor has been used again and again because I have seen the exactly same problem throughout the city (in front of Beach club, along Jalan Penang, end of Jalan Yap Kwan Seng etc etc). I wonder who commissioned their work?!!

WELCOME MARKLAND. Make yourself at home. Glad that you like this forum. Where you staying though?

For that question of yours...hmmm, maybe someone else will be in a better position to answer it. ;)

Welcome to the forums Markland!

:cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

WELCOME MARKLAND. Make yourself at home. Glad that you like this forum. Where you staying though?

For that question of yours...hmmm, maybe someone else will be in a better position to answer it. ;)


May I ask why are you not 'in the position' to ans? :D

My very question to all of you: have you thought of electing your own city mayor? I think our current KL city mayor really SUCKS. He doesnt have any charisma, and what he has done so far is negligible.


Actually our current mayor is the best mayor so far. I must admit he does have some shortcomings but I am sure that even with election, we won't be able to get someone this 'passionate'. ;)

Our mayor currently is trying to patch up all the mess that our previous mayors made. So I suggest we give him some time as he's only been on the job for less then 2 years. There are lots to do. I have heard that our mayor actually paid attention to details and does his best to wipe out corruption (if anyone could remember the Petaling St upgrading fiasco). :)

There are definitely room for improvement and our mayor hasn't been on the job for long enuf to evaluate, but so far he's been good (at least in my opinion he is). I am all for a mayorial elections as I think would be good as it is based on meritocracy but I must say that our current mayor is still a rare gem. ;)

At least he's close to the people and listen to their feedbacks....... :D

Thanks ZaHiRnYa??? I'm in KL.You in Taiping? Really nice town.

May I ask why are you not 'in the position' to ans? :D

Err...cause I am not originally not from KL :D

I think our current KL city mayor really SUCKS. He doesnt have any charisma, and what he has done so far is negligible. There are fundamental problems like pollutions (go to Pandan Jaya Station and have a look at the river next to the station), public transportation (sardin packed, smelly and a/c not working LRT trains), filthy low cost apartment areas, garbage recycling system, poverty, indonesian squatters etc etc. What has he been doing??????


As for a charismatic mayor....well......it is a bonus if we were to have a charismatic mayor but I do not see any merit in that? ;)

As for Pandan Jaya's pollution....well...that's not DBKL's problem but MPAJ (which I must admit doing a lousy job). But for rivers.......there is no single council to blame as a single river runs thru many. So all must play a part but if you zeroed in down to Pandan Jaya....its MPAJ. ;)

LRT train problem had again nothing to do with DBKL. This is under Syarikat Prasarana Negara Berhad which manages the LRTs ;)

There is an article on The Metro sectrion of The Star yesterday about these low cost apartments and DBKL said that they are now considering upgrading em.........a good read :okay:

Garbage Recycling System is a gevernmental effort .....I think this is under the newly formed Environment Ministry. Yes.....our Recycling campaign sucks compared to some countries but this again is not our mayor's fault ....and again.....since this is a new ministry and the previous ministry isn't doing too good, I suggest we give em a bit of time ;)

As for squatters/slums.......if you're in KL you'll notice they are dissapearing fast. KL is gonna be 'slum-free' by next year and the last big one - which is at Kampung Brunei is gonna go by this month as the low-cost flats are already completed (opposite Convent Peel Road) :)

So as you could see......not all are his problem. Sometimes we have to identify the correct channel to vent our complains (or to blame in this case) :D

Im definitely not a fan of the current or former mayors. I believe that by holding an election we open a greater opportunity to appoint a good mayor. Let those capable candidates compete each other and reveal their goals and agendas. Let us elect the mayor and watch them carefully. You do not appoint a Prime Minister/Party to govern this country. You elect them. This is how it should work as well for a city.

Even though he is less than 2 years on board, I found that he is not aggressive enough. His so called Vision city plan just doesnt fly simply because he doesnt address many fundamental problems. I remember there was an article about a food court project by a river which was completed last year somewhere in KL. Apparently, the project is a white elephant as on rainy days, the overflow of the river will flood the entire place. Even one of the Ministers condemned DBKL for their folly.

Another major problem is the bus terminal location in KL. I have not seen him do anything remarkable to push for replanning the terminal, but I saw the realization of the unreasonable plan i.e. having relocated some buses to Jln Duta terminal. I wonder whether they ever take long distance buses. People who take buses like me and so many other do not appreciate this inconvenient location.

Speaking of Jalan Petaling Street, try to go there when it rains. The canopy does not cover up the hallway properly you see rain gushing down along the gaps Even though the wooden stalls look nice but they are so impractical to use. They are very small and the roof is not extendable. The trees were planted at weird locations and they are now dying.

Let's be real.

Thanks ZaHiRnYa??? I'm in KL.You in Taiping? Really nice town.

Originally from Taiping. Now in KL but work in Shah Alam. :D

Im definitely not a fan of the current or former mayors. I believe that by holding an election we open a greater opportunity to appoint a good mayor. Let those capable candidates compete each other and reveal their goals and agendas. Let us elect the mayor and watch them carefully. You do not appoint a Prime Minister/Party to govern this country. You elect them. This is how it should work as well for a city.



If you realised in my last posts......I said I am all in for a mayorial election. I've statyed in Auckland before and when I am there they had their mayorial election and I must say that a mayor elected thru meritocracy is the best. What I am trying to point our here is that our current mayor (although hand-picked) is a good one. At least IMO he is so I am not forcing anyone into my beliefs ;)

Again having an elected mayor is our government's job to implement. Since we now have a new Fed Territory Ministry perhaps we all could petitioned a letter to call for a mayorial elections? I personally have been kinda outspoken on thnis issue ever since the last 2 mayors but what can we do?

Knowing how our system works..... I know I am passive about his issue but i am not again wasting my breath over issues like this ........all we could do now is to complain to DBKL and hope they'll do something 'll do something bout it. You could only get things done if you're 'somebody' or at least an MP :D

As for squatters/slums.......if you're in KL you'll notice they are dissapearing fast. KL is gonna be 'slum-free' by next year and the last big one - which is at Kampung Brunei is gonna go by this month as the low-cost flats are already completed (opposite Convent Peel Road) :)


Hmmm...but how about Kampung Bumiputra? I think it is even uglier than Kampung Brunei actually.

Hmmm...but how about Kampung Bumiputra? I think it is even uglier than Kampung Brunei actually.


Is there another one? Izzit big? Where izzit? I seriously have no idea where it is :?

Is there another one? Izzit big? Where izzit? I seriously have no idea where it is :?

Intersection of Jalan Ampang and Jalan Jelatek. On my way to my house la. Next to Fairview International School.

Even though he is less than 2 years on board, I found that he is not aggressive enough. His so called Vision city plan just doesnt fly simply because he doesnt address many fundamental problems. I remember there was an article about a food court project by a river which was completed last year somewhere in KL. Apparently, the project is a white elephant as on rainy days, the overflow of the river will flood the entire place. Even one of the Ministers condemned DBKL for their folly.





The food court thing I really have no idea as I've not read about it and I also dunno where is it and I've not seen it personally.....so sorry can't comment :D

But since we're on the food court issue....City Hall actually built quite a number of very nice foodcourts but they seems to have not gotten their CFs :? I remember Archiless told me something bout it but I forgot........he's an architect with DBKL so he knows ;)

There's one at Taman Maluri and Desa Aman. :)

Intersection of Jalan Ampang and Jalan Jelatek. On my way to my house la. Next to Fairview International School.


hmmm.......I dun recall much........izzit where there is a market and stuffs......around the Dato' Keramat Putraline station izzit?

hmmm.......I dun recall much........izzit where there is a market and stuffs......around the Dato' Keramat Putraline station izzit?

Nope. That area already inside Dato Keramat area. This one before Dato' Keramat la. Maybe one of this day when you pick me up then I will show you the area.

i am fro klang. None of my bussiness.. :d

i am fro klang. None of my bussiness.. :d


wether you're from Klang.....Taiping or wherever .......this issue is universal and you could participate so dun need to shut yourselves out of the discussion. Inputs from forumers from all over the country (even overseas) are welcome. :)

Dun worry if you say the wrong thing......you'll just stand to be corrected after this: :bash: ....hehehehe (TYW & Baq always kena wan). You won't be penalised :D

Another major problem is the bus terminal location in KL. I have not seen him do anything remarkable to push for replanning the terminal, but I saw the realization of the unreasonable plan i.e. having relocated some buses to Jln Duta terminal. I wonder whether they ever take long distance buses. People who take buses like me and so many other do not appreciate this inconvenient location.






There are plans to relocated bus terminals outside of the city centre. The current arrangement is a temporal one ( a very long one that is ). This is due to lack of funds and the much delayed Plaza Rakyat project.

Originally the plan is to distribute most of the bus services to various terminals at the fringes of the city. The main terminus would still be remained at Plaza Rakyat. Putra, Pekeliling & Duta Terminals would compliment Plaza Rakyat. North-bound busses would be stationed at a station to be located near the Subang Airport/Kelana Jaya area which would be fed by an enlarged Putraline network. East-bound busses would be at the Gombak Terminal (u/c next to Terminal Putra). Sound-bound busses are to be at the Bandar Tasik Selatan Terminal (u/c as well) which would rendeavour with 3 rail lines - KLIA Transit, Starline and KTM Komuter ;)

So how did the 'almost perfect' plan goes? Well.....thanks to the delay at Plaza Rakyat and the lack of funding for the new terminals so the govt had to assigned more busses out of Puduraya to other terminals like Duta and Putra. In fact DBKL just built a new terminal at Pasar Rakyat at Imbi. So I do not totally blamed DBKL for all the public transport woes as there are many fronts to it. :)

Speaking of Jalan Petaling Street, try to go there when it rains. The canopy does not cover up the hallway properly you see rain gushing down along the gaps Even though the wooden stalls look nice but they are so impractical to use. They are very small and the roof is not extendable. The trees were planted at weird locations and they are now dying.

Let's be real.


Yup been there....even when it is raining. Remember that when DBKL built the canopy, it says that due to certain constrains, it wouldn't be totally protect everyone below from natural elements. They did mentioned that as a disclaimer but everyone seems to attack em on the same matter. The gaps are present as they are not covering everything as this is just a simple canopy not an enclosed one.

Furthermore the buildings on both sides are of different height so it is kinda hard to cover everything as it has to take air circulation into consideration as well. We have to give and take lah ;) .....at least I perfer the current environment when it rains than the old days. :)

I have to agree with you that the wooden stalls are impractical but they had to make it small to accoomodate the many traders there. The original make-shift 'stalls' are also small in comparison. Then there are also human traffic flow to be considered as well. :)

As for the plants.......they are probably malnutrished or not being maintained properly or they are damaged during their transfer..........so this is not the fault of the planners but those whom maintaining em. If DBKL are maintaining em....yes DBKL is at fault :D

Hello I'm new here. I've found this forum very nice. Can't believe there are so many people like me out there who are interested in developments in the country. My very question to all of you: have you thought of electing your own city mayor? I think our current KL city mayor really SUCKS. He doesnt have any charisma, and what he has done so far is negligible. There are fundamental problems like pollutions (go to Pandan Jaya Station and have a look at the river next to the station), public transportation (sardin packed, smelly and a/c not working LRT trains), filthy low cost apartment areas, garbage recycling system, poverty, indonesian squatters etc etc. What has he been doing?????? We need someone who is passionate towards the city and serves the city folks seriously. We cannot wait for the Federal Government to act!!!

Also, did you realize that a lot of sidewalks downtown are ruined and their tiles are ripped off simply because some really bad contractor after installing lamp posts etc did not do a proper job on putting back the tiles. For those who drive only may not realize this problem. The same contractor has been used again and again because I have seen the exactly same problem throughout the city (in front of Beach club, along Jalan Penang, end of Jalan Yap Kwan Seng etc etc). I wonder who commissioned their work?!!

WELCOME MARKLAND.

Though your frustrations are sincere, I believe that you are wrong to bring them out directly onto one person, the mayor. Your post makes it seem that KL has smothered into utter chaos because of him, which is far from true.

KL has its share of problems like any major urban center in the world. You have to remember that society and civic consciousness (apathy, corruption, whatever) are still the main issues here. What’s the point of cleaning the Klang River when people are still thoughtlessly dumping waste into them?

If I got my history right, the establishment of local governance began with the Kuala Lumpur Municipal elections in February 1952. But there must be a reason why they removed it. It’s probably another complex administrative arrangement.

From Utusan
http://www.utusan.com.my/utusan/content.asp?y=2004&dt=0507&pub=Utusan_Malaysia&sec=Muka_Hadapan&pg=mh_03.htm

Kemiskinan: KL mungkin jadi seperti New York

BANGI 6 Mei - Kuala Lumpur akan menjadi seperti New York yang menyaksikan ada penduduknya terpaksa tinggal di dalam kotak sekiranya masyarakat luar bandar datang ke ibu kota hanya untuk mencari keseronokan.

Menteri Pembangunan Luar Bandar dan Wilayah, Datuk Abdul Aziz Shamsudin berkata, fenomena itu tidak mustahil terjadi jika trend penghijrahan ke bandar oleh penduduk luar bandar yang tidak mempunyai kemahiran dan untuk `glamor' berterusan.

Beliau berkata, penghijrahan yang tidak terancang itu boleh menyebabkan mereka terjerumus dalam kancah kemiskinan.

Sehubungan itu, Abdul Aziz meminta penduduk luar bandar tidak terikut-ikut dengan orang lain hingga sanggup meninggalkan kampung halaman masing-masing untuk berhijrah ke bandar.

``Jika ini berterusan, memang benar Kuala Lumpur akan berhadapan dengan masalah kemiskinan penduduknya yang ketara dalam tempoh lima tahun akan datang kerana ibu kota diibaratkan umpama kelkatu mencari cahaya.

``Kuala Lumpur akhirnya akan menjadi seperti New York apabila ada penduduk di negara maju itu tinggal di dalam kotak,'' katanya kepada pemberita selepas melawat Institut Kemajuan Desa (Infra) di sini hari ini.

Beliau diminta mengulas hasil kajian yang dijalankan oleh Fellow Kanan Institut Alam Sekitar dan Pembangunan (Lestari) Universiti Kebangsaan Malaysia (UKM), Prof. Chamhuri Siwar mengenai kesan peningkatan penghijrahan penduduk ke Kuala Lumpur.

Dalam kajian itu, dijangka berlaku kemiskinan di Kuala Lumpur apabila peluang pekerjaan, kemudahan perumahan dan asas di bandar raya semakin terhad.

Abdul Aziz memberitahu, penghijrahan masyarakat luar bandar ke bandar kadangkala hanya kerana terpengaruh dengan beberapa tarikan yang terdapat di situ.

WELCOME, Markland

From Utusan
http://www.utusan.com.my/utusan/content.asp?y=2004&dt=0507&pub=Utusan_Malaysia&sec=Muka_Hadapan&pg=mh_03.htm

Kemiskinan: KL mungkin jadi seperti New York

BANGI 6 Mei - Kuala Lumpur akan menjadi seperti New York yang menyaksikan ada penduduknya terpaksa tinggal di dalam kotak sekiranya masyarakat luar bandar datang ke ibu kota hanya untuk mencari keseronokan.

Err....I think it already happen lah. Banyak kali dah tengok orang tido dalam kotak mah...

Err....I think it already happen lah. Banyak kali dah tengok orang tido dalam kotak mah...
Got kah? Never came across ler. Mat gian got lah

Ah I have stirred up some turbulence here.

I appreciate your welcome notes, ladies / gentlemen.

Just for the record, I do not blame the mayor for the problems we are having right now. But I do not see any impressive action they (current, former mayors, whatever) have carried out. As for the city itself, the recycling program for instance is just not working right. If I were the planner, I would ask myself how to make people participate and the workability of this program in this city to cater to our habbits etc. Apparently, the failure of the program has answered the failure of their thought process. Has tax relief been considered as an incentive to those recycling supporters (I know its a crazy idea, but just to give an example); or by enforcing laws, can we achieve the target? etc. If the Capital cannot do it right, other cities must be falling apart. This shows how important a mayor can be for KL. KL is just not a capital since it wants to be a major international city. The mayor or the head of the city should lead the city, set up good systems and voice up for the folks. So far I have not seen any mayor of KL has this charisma and capability. Do you remember their names anyway?! They are just simply forgetable.

A good project must not only be furnished with good designs but also good construction and maintenance later on. Again the planner must consider these factors when planning; the implementor must construct it right; the commisioner must have a workable plan for future maintenance. The trees dying along Jln Petaling are really planted at weird locations. The trees cannot grow peroperly, and who are actually taking care of them? Nobody can really answer. For me, it is simple: I will put the commisioner to task if there is no proper plan for maintenance.

A lot of waste dumping into Klang river is actually done by squatters and factories. This is what I have observed. To me, this pollution thing is so noticeable I wonder how much DBKL has done to overcome it. Did they introduce a proper waste collecting program in those areas? Who are actually watching them?

Lastly, I wanna say this: a great city, apart from trying not to have whatever problems we have right now, should have a great leading team. KL although looks nice and is considered liveable compared to many other cities still has a lot of things to improve. And I think the city is not humanized enough. I give you a very simple example. the bridge between Star and Putra stations at Masjid Jamek is not covered by any canopy. So when it rains, people from the bridge direction will be wet. This is what I mean.

Got kah? Never came across ler. Mat gian got lah

Got la. Tu la..lain kali jangan asyik nak dongak ke atas aje..tengkok tengok la kat bawah sekali. ;)

Ah I have stirred up some turbulence here.




No worries Markland.....turbulences are fairly common around these forums and we've faced much adversities here .... riding thru em fairly well ;)

Just for the record, I do not blame the mayor for the problems we are having right now. But I do not see any impressive action they (current, former mayors, whatever) have carried out.


The mayor or the head of the city should lead the city, set up good systems and voice up for the folks. So far I have not seen any mayor of KL has this charisma and capability. Do you remember their names anyway?! They are just simply forgetable.




I've 'selected' these few sentences out of your post to illustrates how contradicting is it with one another. The first paragraph, you said you're not blaming the mayors for the problems in KL......then you go on saying that they didn't set up a good system and that they lack the charisma and capability.

I take no offence of you criticising KL .....criticise all you want as long as it is done tastefully and not ignorantly ;) .......but I do have to comment on your blaming of our mayor alone......and the city hall too. You need some understanding of how the govt or the system works before blaming the mayor or the city hall on all these urban problems that KL is facing .....

As for the city itself, the recycling program for instance is just not working right. If I were the planner, I would ask myself how to make people participate and the workability of this program in this city to cater to our habbits etc. Apparently, the failure of the program has answered the failure of their thought process. Has tax relief been considered as an incentive to those recycling supporters (I know its a crazy idea, but just to give an example); or by enforcing laws, can we achieve the target? etc. If the Capital cannot do it right, other cities must be falling apart. This shows how important a mayor can be for KL. KL is just not a capital since it wants to be a major international city.



I am a strong opponent of our country's recycling program (I too have many complains but this isn't the thread to do so) and this is not just limit to KL alone but the entire country. The current recycling program is initiated by the fed govt - The Ministry of Science, Technology and Environment for Malaysia and not just KL. Now it is under the Environment Momistry after the cabinet re-shuffling ;)

Issues on taxes and law enforcement AGAIN isn't under the jurusdiction of DBKL. Sorry to say this but you're "Barking up the wrong tree" here :D

ANyway I find it offensive to other cities in Malaysia that you said "If the Capital cannot do it right, other cities must be falling apart". There are many achievements that other cities could do and not KL despite it being the capital. Sure that the capital must be some sort of a role model for other cities to follow but it does not neccessarily mean that if KL fails then other cities would be worst off......

A good project must not only be furnished with good designs but also good construction and maintenance later on. Again the planner must consider these factors when planning; the implementor must construct it right; the commisioner must have a workable plan for future maintenance. The trees dying along Jln Petaling are really planted at weird locations. The trees cannot grow peroperly, and who are actually taking care of them? Nobody can really answer. For me, it is simple: I will put the commisioner to task if there is no proper plan for maintenance.



Yes.....we need a good maintenance culture and I believe DBKL has improved a lot in this matter. I've been living in KL for 26 years and I've seen much improvement and in fact what DBKL did for the past few years in maintenance work are kinda astonishing (more on this later if neccessary). :)

You keep harping on the Petaling Street trees but I've not seen any photos from ya or any specific example on these 'dying trees' and 'weird locations' for plating em. I would suggest you point these out more specifically before repeating the same complain as I fail to see the reasoning behind such complains......

As for the trees....well....you just can't judge the tree after they've planted like for just a couple of months. The Petaling Street upgrade are still in process so I suggest we all wait and see. If you looked around KL, you'll notice DBKL is in fact very good in planting trees so there are no excuse of em not doing a good job at Petaling St. :)

As for the tree maintenance....no one would know unless you're working for DBKL. It could be some contractors or DBKL themselves and you don't really need an answer for that because DBKL is 'in-cahrge' of em regardless of whomever that waters and fertilised em ;)

So far I have not seen any mayor of KL has this charisma and capability. Do you remember their names anyway?! They are just simply forgetable.





This is getting a lil absurd if you asked me.......


So if KLites are able to remember their names and being a charismatic person would make em good mayors?

Many charismatic personalities throughout history had fallen so a non-charismatic person doesn't neccessarily mean that he/she isn't a good mayor.....

Have you been able to recall any names of any of such charismatic mayors of other cities? ......maybe New York's as their mayors have been on the spotlight since 9/11 but where else? :D ......even then mot many would recall New York's (on top of their heads and without cheating) :D

And speaking of capability......well.....please define capability in this context as I do not see how incapable our mayor is currently ? :?


In fact I do remember the names of some of our mayors! :D

I mean who could forget Tan Sri Elyas Omar? He's also the president of BAM and the longest mayor serving KL.

- A very prominent school in KL was named after our first mayor - Dato Lokman. That would be the infamous Sekolah Menengah Dato Lokman at Kampung Pandan (in between Sekolah Menengah Aminuddin Baki and the Kg. Pandan Sports Complex).

- Sek Men La Salle (KL) at Taman Maluri was renamed Sek Men Yaakob Latiff a few years back after our second mayor.

- The mayor before this was Tan Sri Kamarulzaman

And the current mayor is Datuk Mohd Shaid Taufek.....I also happen to know he's a retired colonel with the Malaysian Armed Forces....

I think I misses out one but that doesn't matter lah :D :D :D

I believe that knowing whom our mayors is doesn't really shows that they are really charismatic or doing a good job but is is due to my general knowledge of things happening around me :D

Let's ponder upon this: Many know Mother Theresa of helping the poor in Culcutta but do anyone knows whom continued her noble work? Isn't the successor doing a good job and a noble deed? Do you need charismatic for such work? Well....many don't know who continued Mother Theresa's work but I do know. I did a fair bit of reading the newspaper if you asked me :D

I also know that the world knows 'charismatic' personalities such as Ferdinand Marcos, the last Shah of Iran, Tsar Nicholas II ....etc.......but are these great leaders? You tell me....... :D

the bridge between Star and Putra stations at Masjid Jamek is not covered by any canopy. So when it rains, people from the bridge direction will be wet. This is what I mean.

Well....when it rains you dun use the bridge lah! :D You use the canopy on the other side mah by crossing over at the station....:D :ohno: :D

One can't expect the entire KL to be covered with canopied walkways lah :bash: :D

One can't expect the entire KL to be covered with canopied walkways lah :bash: :D

I want. I want :D

I want. I want :D

I'll nominate you for mayor if we gets to vote for one! :D

I'll nominate you for mayor if we gets to vote for one! :D

Hmmm...huge responsibility la. If I get to be a mayor :

1. Redeveloped the mass transit. With KL Monorail and Star to be link straight into KL Sentral. Centralised all the station and make one mass ticket for all public transportation. Also make a circle line underground around Jalan Tun Razak.

2. Get rid of all elevated highway and build it underground instead like the "BIG DIG" in Boston.

3. Retain the original part of Kampung Baru, thrash away the rest of the area + Dato' Keramat, Kampung Brunei and all squarter area and relocate them to an all high 70+ apartment downtown KL, area like Wangsa Maju nearby the Sri Rampai lrt station. That area itself can simply accomodate max of 50 tall apartment for a huge number of population.

4. Bukit Bintang area to be pedestarian free. Haven for me.

5. Pudu Jail have to go. And, Sze, I will grant your wish for the entrance to be preserve.

6. Turn back the hugh longkang into its original state.

7. All the huge bungalow nearby Stonor area, have to go.

8. Hypermarket to be allow to operate 24 hours

9. Any developer that continue and take over any abandoned project around KL and manage to finish it will be granted priority for the next upcoming project

10. Any project in the future must come with a green lung area for recreation site.

11. Puduraya. Definitely I'm going to tear it down

12. Public bus. Hmm...need to sit down first and come out with a good solution

eh...what else ah. Nanti I pikir balik :D

Hmmm...huge responsibility la. If I get to be a mayor :

1. Redeveloped the mass transit. With KL Monorail and Star to be link straight into KL Sentral. Centralised all the station and make one mass ticket for all public transportation. Also make a circle line underground around Jalan Tun Razak.

2. Get rid of all elevated highway and build it underground instead like the "BIG DIG" in Boston.

3. Retain the original part of Kampung Baru, thrash away the rest of the area + Dato' Keramat, Kampung Brunei and all squarter area and relocate them to an all high 70+ apartment downtown KL, area like Wangsa Maju nearby the Sri Rampai lrt station. That area itself can simply accomodate max of 50 tall apartment for a huge number of population.

4. Bukit Bintang area to be pedestarian free. Haven for me.

5. Pudu Jail have to go. And, Sze, I will grant your wish for the entrance to be preserve.

6. Turn back the hugh longkang into its original state.

7. All the huge bungalow nearby Stonor area, have to go.

8. Hypermarket to be allow to operate 24 hours

9. Any developer that continue and take over any abandoned project around KL and manage to finish it will be granted priority for the next upcoming project

10. Any project in the future must come with a green lung area for recreation site.

11. Puduraya. Definitely I'm going to tear it down

12. Public bus. Hmm...need to sit down first and come out with a good solution

eh...what else ah. Nanti I pikir balik :D

To make things more interesting I would like to challenge some proposals put forward by Mayor Zahirnya???

1. KL Loop is not a bad idea. But Mr Mayor has to show methods to finance this project. Singapore Circle Line costs S$6bil. That's a lot of money.

But I don't see the need to divert STAR into KL Sentral. STAR interfaces with other system just fine the way it is now. It is not practical to have all lines converge into the same station. If KL would have another 2 or 3 lines in the future, do you want them all to meet up at KL Sentral station? It would be more efficient to create several other interchange stations. KLCC, Hang Tuah and the new bus station next Kpg Pandan circus would be the best choice for the KL Loop route to be aligned with. This would make the system more flexible.

So, realignment of STAR has to go.

2. Boston Big Dig costs around US14bil upon completion. This mammoth cost put extra burden to commuters in Boston. Tobin Bridge toll charge would be risen at least 4 times than its current rate. Even with smaller scale, "KL Big Dig" could easily exceed al least US5bil. And I don't expect KLites would be willing to pay such high toll charge. Well heck, they don't even agree with the current NPE toll charge.

This project is not viable and has to go!

4. Bkt Bintang to be pedestrian-free? Or is it traffic-free? Even though I like the idea, realisitically speaking it is not really possible. Traffic-free would mean all the super duper rich dudes in KL have to walk to the super duper high class hotels and restaurants that lining along the road. This project will not take off. Especially among the riches. Mr Mayor has to rethink.

7. Any specific reasons why the bungalows have to go?

To make things more interesting I would like to challenge some proposals put forward by Mayor Zahirnya???

God. This is why I hate about my job. :D

Tomkat. Thanks for the feedback. My proposal that you happen to read just now are not finalised yet. That is what I had in mind. It is still haven't been discuss yet with the rest of the department.

Sorry that I cannot make a full explanation for all of your answer, cause I'm in rush at the moment. Lunch time :D

1. Boston Big Dig : This one is just for my own personal interest. I'm greedy you see. I know if was way impossible to do it in Malaysia. I will retract this in my later announcement. Sorry for the confusion.

God. This is why I hate about my job. :D

Sorry that I cannot make a full explanation for all of your answer, cause I'm in rush at the moment. Lunch time :D

1. Boston Big Dig : This one is just for my own personal interest. I'm greedy you see. I know if was way impossible to do it in Malaysia. I will retract this in my later announcement. Sorry for the confusion.


Ok. Eat first. People tend to come out with great ideas with full stomach. ;)

Oh. I love this mayor. I'll vote you for another term! :yes:

Oh. I love this mayor. I'll vote you for another term! :yes:

Ayoh. First day becoming a mayor now already feel the pressure to deliver. :ohno:

I think our current KL city mayor really SUCKS. He doesnt have any charisma, and what he has done so far is negligible.


Isn’t that considered a direct reference to the mayor? If you don’t blame him for the problems then why were you mad at him in the first place?

It is glad to note that you have softened your turbulence-causing views to include words such as “leading team” which was precisely what we/ I was trying to highlight. It’s not a one-man job trying to make a city trouble free.

As I mentioned previously, your frustrations are sincere but you seem to lash them out the way a stubborn seven year old whiner would. Your arguments are simplistic as you often dismiss the wider perspective of the issue.

Anyway, why do you now only blame the squatters and factories (apart from the mayor) for the Klang River pollution? The Klang is an extensive river which has several tributaries along its flow including the mighty Gombak River.

Some of our drainage systems, meant for flood dispersal purposes in proper housing estates, lead ultimately to the river as well. More often than not, it’s okay for Malaysians to dump waste into them because it’s only a “longkang”. Where it ends up nobody cares.

Tax relief for recycling? Why not give out free meals instead. Knowing the love Malaysians have for free food it will be a resounding success!!!
Come on lar... Idealism and PRAGMATISM have to go hand in hand, my friend.

The ability to remember the names of the leaders is not a measure of their contribution. Forget about New York and Calcutta, do you remember all the leaders who served during the Emergency? We probably know more about Chin Peng.

Isn’t that considered a direct reference to the mayor? If you don’t blame him for the problems then why were you mad at him in the first place?

It is glad to note that you have softened your turbulence-causing views to include words such as “leading team” which was precisely what we/ I was trying to highlight. It’s not a one-man job trying to make a city trouble free.

As I mentioned previously, your frustrations are sincere but you seem to lash them out the way a stubborn seven year old whiner would. Your arguments are simplistic as you often dismiss the wider perspective of the issue.

Anyway, why do you now only blame the squatters and factories (apart from the mayor) for the Klang River pollution? The Klang is an extensive river which has several tributaries along its flow including the mighty Gombak River.

Some of our drainage systems, meant for flood dispersal purposes in proper housing estates, lead ultimately to the river as well. More often than not, it’s okay for Malaysians to dump waste into them because it’s only a “longkang”. Where it ends up nobody cares.

Tax relief for recycling? Why not give out free meals instead. Knowing the love Malaysians have for free food it will be a resounding success!!!
Come on lar... Idealism and PRAGMATISM have to go hand in hand, my friend.

The ability to remember the names of the leaders is not a measure of their contribution. Forget about New York and Calcutta, do you remember all the leaders who served during the Emergency? We probably know more about Chin Peng.


well said argory! :okay:

Markland > we/I are not trying to patronised you or something but you;re not realistic in your complains and you kept harping on the same thing over and over again.

Like Argory had said.....your rantings and frustrations are sincere but you failed to see the bigger picture. I do realised that our mayor isn't up to your expectation but this simply isn't a one man show.

We are not mad and angry at ya but we also think it isn't fair by blaming all on the mayor and the city hall. ;)

Argory > Yea....you're right! Chin Peng is a 'star' even till today! :D His autobiography are also one of the best seller of last year and several bookstores ran out of stock! :eek: ......I bought one too! :D

[QUOTE=szehoong]I am a strong opponent of our country's recycling program (I too have many complains but this isn't the thread to do so) and this is not just limit to KL alone but the entire country. QUOTE]

I'm happy to hear KL (entire country) has a recycling program. This is news to me. However, I'm intrigued by SzeHoong's stated opposition to it.........could you enlighten me?

How can they rename the school name?? I prefer the old name

I am a strong opponent of our country's recycling program (I too have many complains but this isn't the thread to do so) and this is not just limit to KL alone but the entire country.

I'm happy to hear KL (entire country) has a recycling program. This is news to me. However, I'm intrigued by SzeHoong's stated opposition to it.........could you enlighten me?


Well.....they have these recycling bins at KLCC Park for example.......isn't it a bit silly to have it at the park? No these are not the small ones for you to throw the occasional tin cans but the big ones for large volume discards. They should have it at least in the car park. Would you take the rubbish all the way to the park to discard em? :lol: ......I guess the bins there are just for show .......

A more practical approach would be having these bins at neighbourhood junctions or to have residents separating their rubbish. ;)

I am in Auckland when they started having 'segregated' bins at every household for glass and plastics. It is a bit awkward at first by we all eventually get used to it. The recycling bin collectors comes once every week as the volume of glass and plastics aren't a great as those of the normal refuse. :) ......oh and all in our household are Malaysians and even at that time Aucklanders aren't used to it too as it is the first time they have such system but eventually it became a second nature to all of us. ;)

So if a smallish country like NZ could pull off such practical approach, it makes me wonder why Malaysia can't do it? Don't the authorities do a bit of thinking in the first place? At least have those recycling bins at some major street corners or so to promote the recycling campaign. :)

How can they rename the school name?? I prefer the old name


haha...they could rename schools however they want :D

we loses a lot of nice colonial names for streets and places due to a mass exercise to localised names back in the 70s and 80s......:ohno:

Yeah, KL had some pretty nice colonial street names such as :

Treacher Road- Jalan Sultan Ismail
Mountbatten Road- Jln Tun Perak
Foch Avenue - Jln Cheng Lock
Shaw Road- Jln Hang Tuah
Klyne Steet- Jln Hang Lekiu
Cecil Street- Jln Hang Lekir
Circular Road- Jln Tun Razak
Swettenham Road- Jln Mahameru
Campbell Road- Jln Dang Wangi
Lornie Drive- Persiaran Syed Putra
Eaton Road
Clarke Street
Bellamy Crescent

...and many more. Furthermore, a lot of these roads were named after individuals who had some degree of connection with the history of Kuala Lumpur/ Selangor.

Hm....personally in my opinion, i think the street names should be renamed with those who have contributed to our nation. i wondered what did three of the "Hang" contributed to our nation...? Because they are loyal to Sultan ???

Yeah, KL had some pretty nice colonial street names such as :

Treacher Road- Jalan Sultan Ismail
Mountbatten Road- Jln Tun Perak
Foch Avenue - Jln Cheng Lock
Shaw Road- Jln Hang Tuah
Klyne Steet- Jln Hang Lekiu
Cecil Street- Jln Hang Lekir
Circular Road- Jln Tun Razak
Swettenham Road- Jln Mahameru
Campbell Road- Jln Dang Wangi
Lornie Drive- Persiaran Syed Putra
Eaton Road
Clarke Street
Bellamy Crescent

...and many more. Furthermore, a lot of these roads were named after individuals who had some degree of connection with the history of Kuala Lumpur/ Selangor.


Thanks Argory for the info.....I wanna add somemore to these..........me got limited knowledge hehehhe :D


Weld Road - Jalan Raja Chulan
Birch Road - Jalan Maharajalela ( I find this conversion funny......Maharajalela killed JWW Birch! :D )
High Street - Jalan Tun HS Lee
Batu Road - Jalan Raja Laut
Princess Road

Need to crack my head more lah.........anyway I'll update this thread once I got some 'cracked' :D

Hm....personally in my opinion, i think the street names should be renamed with those who have contributed to our nation. i wondered what did three of the "Hang" contributed to our nation...? Because they are loyal to Sultan ???


Well.....the 'Hangs' are actually the Malaccan Sultanate govt high-position holders like Laksamana (Admiral), Bendahara (Finance Minister), Syahbandar (Mayor) and Temenggung (Prime Minister).....( please correct me if I am wrong as my Malay history is rusting :D ).........so I think they are pretty important people then.

I do not condone em to replace the colonial names to these 'Malay heroes/important ppl' as I believe we should recognised and preserved these colonial names as they too contribute to nation building. These and the more recent names like Tun HS Lee & Tun Razak could have easily graced important modern highways or newer roads. ......there are just too many numbers for USJ / PJ area so I think many names could have been used ;)

Bendahara should be Prime Minister lah and Temenggong Treasurer ;)

Bendahara should be Prime Minister lah and Temenggong Treasurer ;)


oh....hehhee :D ........I initially posted that but I edited it .......... :wallbash:

Thanks Argory for the info.....I wanna add somemore to these..........me got limited knowledge hehehhe :D


Weld Road - Jalan Raja Chulan
Birch Road - Jalan Maharajalela ( I find this conversion funny......Maharajalela killed JWW Birch! :D )
High Street - Jalan Tun HS Lee
Batu Road - Jalan Raja Laut
Princess Road

Need to crack my head more lah.........anyway I'll update this thread once I got some 'cracked' :D


err... Batu Road is Jalan Tuanku Abdul Rahman lar! ;)

err... Batu Road is Jalan Tuanku Abdul Rahman lar! ;)


oh! I always terbalik the road names :D .........then what's Jalan Raja Laut? :?

Jalan Raja Laut has not changed names. Raja Laut was a son of Sultan Muhammad of Selangor. :)

But the road itself was probably not as significant as it is today (based on old maps and pictures). At that time, the road was confined to the Chow Kit area only (Tiong Nam, Haji Taib, etc).

It was extended along the Gombak River right up to the Padang not too long ago. ;)

Jalan Raja Laut has not changed names. Raja Laut was a son of Sultan Muhammad of Selangor. :)

But the road itself was probably not as significant as it is today (based on old maps and pictures). At that time, the road was confined to the Chow Kit area only (Tiong Nam, Haji Taib, etc).

It was extended along the Gombak River right up to the Padang not too long ago. ;)


But Batu Road School is located along Jalan Raja Laut and not Jalan Tuanku Abdul Rahman although it is Batu Road.......what happen to the school by adopting the name then? :D

Maybe it is named after Batu Road due to its proximity with the famous street :? ;)