^^wat big bus terminal?????hmmm....

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MY-Oct-XI-KL-Walls-0002 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thetaipanofhongkong/6559030535/) by Tai Pan of HK (http://www.flickr.com/people/thetaipanofhongkong/), on Flickr
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wonder what are the lift cores for? Noticed quite a few of them being constructed along Jln Pudu and Imbi. They are goin to extend the walkways till there?

the earlier proposal
http://www.utusan.com.my/pix/2011/1227/Utusan_Malaysia/Ekonomi/ek_01.1.jpg

BBCC: UDA terlepas peluang terbaik
27 Disember 2011 / 1 Safar 1433

KUALA LUMPUR 26 Dis. - Kementerian Kewangan (MoF) perlu berhati-hati ketika memilih syarikat-syarikat bumiputera yang berminat untuk memajukan projek Bukit Bintang City Centre (BBCC).

Penelitian khusus mesti diberi keutamaan untuk mengelakkan projek mega yang diletakkan di bawah Program Transformasi Ekonomi (ETP) terbengkalai.

Lebih utama, MoF sewajarnya memastikan segala cadangan yang dikemukakan kepadanya adalah lebih baik berbanding pelan asal oleh Everbright International Engineering Construction (Everbright).

Perunding syarikat hartanah yang enggan dinamakan berkata, UDA Holdings Bhd. (UDA) sebenarnya telah terlepas peluang terbaik bagi membangunkan BBCC.

Menurut beliau, syarikat milik kerajaan China itu bukan sahaja menawarkan harga paling kompetitif untuk tanah bekas tapak Penjara Pudu itu tetapi pelan induk yang dikemukakan juga begitu komprehensif.

http://www.utusan.com.my/utusan/info.asp?y=2011&dt=1227&pub=Utusan_Malaysia&sec=Ekonomi&pg=ek_01.htm

The Star Online > Central
Friday June 18, 2010

Pudu Jail wall to be demolished

Stories by LIM CHIA YING
chiaying@thestar.com.my Photos by P.NATHAN

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The wall of Pudu Jail fronting Jalan Pudu will be demolished on Sunday night for the construction of an underpass which is part of a road-widening project to ease congestion in the area.

The project consists of a five-lane tunnel that will be in alignment with Jalan Pudu, while a slip road to access Jalan Changkat Thambi Dollah is also part of the package.

The whole project, to be completed in December 2012, will be carried out in stages and will involve traffic diversions.

It would take three days to demolish about 300m of the wall.

Kuala Lumpur mayor Datuk Seri Ahmad Fuad Ismail said the Commissioner of Heritage Malaysia said there had been no objection from them after understanding why the demolition was needed.

“This Pudu Jail area was also not gazetted as heritage,” said Ahmad Fuad during a site visit.

“Of course, there is always the dilemma when it comes to a heritage structure like this,” he said.

Ahmad Fuad said the the underpass was necessary because the congestion in the area had become acute.
Well-laid out: An artist’s impression of how Jalan Pudu and its surrounding areas will look after the roadwidening project is completed.

Also present at the Pudu Jail site visit were Bukit Bintang MP Fong Kui Lun, UDA officials and Kuala Lumpur City Hall (DBKL) officers.

Ahmad Fuad said he hoped, however, that the developer would retain the main gate of the prison.

“We are only using a small part of the wall for the road project and this issue must not be sensationalised,” he said.

He added that Jalan Imbi had become an important area because of another development coming up in Jalan Davis.

Ahmad Fuad said UDA had submitted a mixed development proposal before the road project was planned.

“Although the land is being given to UDA, we have not received any new plan from them,” he added.

Bore piling work will start after the wall is demolished.

A temporary wall has already been built inside the prison area to prevent encroachment and vandalism.

Ahmad Fuad said the project had been delayed for more than a year and its original completion date is March next year.

“Since it involves an underpass, a lot of digging has to be made and utilities removed, coupled with problems over land acquisition. But with the new date being set, I want the contractor and developer to fulfil their promise,” he said.

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This is an old prison in KL right? (http://www.flickr.com/photos/spkbxxx/6604967059/) by SPKBXXX (http://www.flickr.com/people/spkbxxx/), on Flickr
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Former prison site

Whatever is to become of BBCC, one will eventually have to address the elephant in the room. For over 100 years, the site housed some of the country’s most notorious criminals and served as an execution ground for convicts – a fact that might not sit well with potential investors and residents, especially the superstitious types.

“If BBCC is to house retail and office space, it might not be a problem,” says Wong.

“However, if the land is redeveloped to comprise residential property, it may affect demand.”

Elvin reckons the “stigma” associated with Pudu Jail will not be a big deal.

“To me, it’s not an issue, although to some people, it might be. Ultimately, it’s all about perception.”

Soo says it all depends on how BBCC is marketed.

“As long as your rebrand it properly, people will not be reminded of the former prison. Besides, people tend to forget after a while, especially with the newer generation coming into the market.”

Soo also says the project can be marketed to foreign investors and buyers, who are less likely to be concerned with the site’s history.


http://www.starproperty.my/PropertyScene/PropertyScene/17775/0/0



Say NO to another transportation hub..better they sort it out the long abandoned Plaza Rakyat first! BBCC if it plans properly can be a new landmark for KL. What I wish to have the first pedestrian malls with nice landscaping and open space or park which we don't have yet in KL.

I'm not sure about the bad feng shui and superstitious which might haunt the new development area though. At some extent it might be true for some people who believe it as Berjaya Times Square at the adjacent of ex Pudu Jail which is not that successful and the rotten Plaza Rakyat just a stone away. Similar thing happened to Hyatt and Berjaya project near Kampung Baru Muslim Cemetery. Nevertheless, personally I won't buy a property, moreover to live on the ex prison land!

agree..kl dont need another puduraya!what wrong with uda?they dont deserve this plot..just back form puduraya(pudusentral) and it suck!they used low quality material,low maintanance,cheap looking,miserable planning.better award it to another company..this development can be a better then what uda planning..hoping something like kl metropolis!

for me,they shud burned down puduraya at first place ,i hate it frm A to Z....

for me,they shud burned down puduraya at first place ,i hate it frm A to Z....

even u hav to pay for toilet..it still very bad condition..

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-XL0AdJQHyww/ThFANJNsnvI/AAAAAAAAAKY/Bd9ZfpNdOR0/s1600/BB%2BSENTRAL_BOARD.jpg

tht is one hell of an entrance

Not really fascinated by the monotonous height though

interesting but not my cup of tea.please build something solid..this one look too fancy for me!i bet this proposal will be reject at last and something practical and simple will replace this..dont they have any creative idea than this crap?

instead,they should make competition!

at first I tot its PJ Sentral Garden City project proposal!

lol...all building same height..?what the architect think when they design it?

Very nice project . Built it fast UDA.

KL needs more project like this to expand the skyline.....

that chrome entrance remind me of naboo royal cruiser..

lol...all building same height..?what the architect think when they design it?

In my opinion, I think we have enough of ONE super taller than the other. It is good to see a cluster of 40-storeys buildings with an integrated nature.

SO I guess this proposal suits well BBCC. (Btw it is now known as BBCity Centre, no more BBCommercial Centre)

In my opinion, I think we have enough of ONE super taller than the other. It is good to see a cluster of 40-storeys buildings with an integrated nature.

SO I guess this proposal suits well BBCC. (Btw it is now known as BBCity Centre, no more BBCommercial Centre)

i dont mean supertall..but i believe it should be various height..

^^
no need to build supertall but atleast make the height different with each other so the cluster will look more emphasize and outstanding..if they built all the same height,it kind of boring and cannot catch my eye..they need diversity in making a development not repetition..

one more thing..if all building is same height..each building will look shorter and whole development will look superdense..

i kinda like the main entrance....but hate the name BB Sentral..lol not another Sentral....but then dis is probably 1 of the rejected proposal.....

this is sorta balancing kl skyling with the same height.....since it is near
to warisan merdeka....which is 100 storey

I'll be extremely happy if they hire icemango for the design of this project...


http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee482/aismanggo1/test3.jpg

^^:okay::okay:..i like it..but in blue

^^:okay::okay:..i like it..but in blue

i would prefer in ferrari red.. too many glass building in blue already.. the sky also blue.. :lol:

i would prefer in ferrari red.. too many glass building in blue already.. the sky also blue.. :lol:

red...?haven't seen red building before this...what it will look like?lol,something like this?
http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/g371/Afiq_Nadzir/9bW8l6j4momywa43G2YKm58Po1_500.jpg
-anyway i like blue.because it so perfect to any buidling in any shape...just look at wtc development...its look clean,and modern
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red...?haven't seen red building before this...what it will look like?lol,something like this?
http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/g371/Afiq_Nadzir/9bW8l6j4momywa43G2YKm58Po1_500.jpg

this color looks agreat :lol:

I'll be extremely happy if they hire icemango for the design of this project...

tht actually looks good....so hottt:cheers:

A BIG space within town!
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7161/6813488377_0ec9a05432_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidgn/6813488377/)
Kuala Lumpur Cityscape - HDR (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidgn/6813488377/) by David Gn Photography (http://www.flickr.com/people/davidgn/), on Flickr

omaigodd.....why post tht pic???so burokk

the shoplot already moved to komplek kenaga right?then demolish it..make BBCC more big,more grand and green

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IMG_5851 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/eclipsx/6876977966/) by eclipsx (http://www.flickr.com/people/eclipsx/), on Flickr

^^ That big space need to be redeveloped ...

future mega skyline will be viewed there.....

Close up

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IMG_5850 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/eclipsx/7023077845/) by eclipsx (http://www.flickr.com/people/eclipsx/), on Flickr

The remaining gate and entrance :sad2:

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http://www.flickr.com/photos/viernullvier/6933261678/

What a sad sight!

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7215/7121055057_7e5329133d_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/90672529@N00/7121055057/)
Pudu prison (http://www.flickr.com/photos/90672529@N00/7121055057/) by stormdog (http://www.flickr.com/people/90672529@N00/), on Flickr

After elections ya...this area will be transformed faster than ever....

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Pudu prison (http://www.flickr.com/photos/90672529@N00/7121055057/) by stormdog (http://www.flickr.com/people/90672529@N00/), on Flickr

Reminds me of Berlin wall... :lol:

UDA’s dilemma on Pudu Jail project
It needs to follow directive but also needs to consider the best deal for the project
By JAGDEV SINGH SIDHU Monday May 14, 2012
http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2012/5/14/business/11285056&sec=business#13369746285761353&if_height=622

KUALA LUMPUR: UDA Holdings Bhd is still evaluating proposals of all parties for the redevelopment of its Pudu Jail land and wants the preferred bid to be the one that is in its best commercial interest.

Even though the board has approved the proposal by Everbright International Construction Engineering Corp last year, the Finance Ministry (MOF) has directed UDA not to consider the company and instructed UDA to prepare a masterplan based on parcelling the land into three.

A special committee formed by UDA's board has included the development model proposed by Everbright in its evaluation to ensure that UDA's long-term commercial interests are protected.

On protecting bumiputra interest, UDA, under the Everbright proposal, will own a significant portion of the assets in the project and will ensure bumiputra contractors will be given the opportunity to participate in all stages from consulting, construction and retail space

Chairman Datuk Nur Jazlan Mohamed said the committee was at the initial stages of developing the masterplan but early indications were that the development model proposed by Everbright gave the best returns to UDA .

“On a commercial basis, Everbright's proposal is the best because it will develop the land as one piece. If the land is cut into three parcels, you know you will lose the value of the land,” he told StarBiz in an interview.

“But we have not come to a conclusion yet.”

MOF has asked UDA to divide the land into three one is for a bumiputra controlled party, another by a bumiputra company in a joint venture with others and the third parcel is open to a non-bumiputra company.

Under Everbright's proposal, the China company will fund the entire development of the land that has been called Bukit Bintang City Centre (BCCC). Its proposal comes with a committed funding of US$1bil and Everbright will take the construction and financing risk, build a contiguous retail space of 2 million sq ft, a car park and a convention centre and hand it over to UDA.

All that time, UDA will retain control of the land and Everbright will, after handing over the assets UDA needs in four years, develop its own properties on the land at its own pace.

Given the amount of commercial space that is planned in Kuala Lumpur, Everbright will have the muscle and foreign connection to handle the flood of floor space that will come on stream in the next few years.

The best option so far for the bumiputra developer will see UDA take on a lot of the risk Everbright is willing to shoulder. UDA. together with the bumiputra developer, must secure the funding for developing the project, which will lower the returns it will obtain.

That means the property will have to be injected into a special purpose vehicle and the ownership of the land will be charged to a bank to get the funding.

The land will have to be charged to the bank in order to raise the funding since UDA does not have the cash to fund the multi-billion ringgit project,

That will translate into lower earnings for UDA compared with the proposal by Everbright.

Furthermore, the floor space it will have to lease out to retailers once the project is completed under the parcelled-out proposal will also be smaller as the land would have been sub-divided among three different developers.

Nur Jazlan said the proposal by Everbright would mean that UDA stands to receive RM300mil to RM400mil a year in income from its property at BCCC, which is essential for a company that has just 400 arces that can be developed.

“The best solution is for UDA to have enough retail space to allow it to earn substantial recurring income to continue to have money to acquire land and grow as a developer.

“What is UDA's long term future and the Puda Jail land provides the only hope for UDA where if developed properly, UDA can get the right quality assets that can give it recurring income.

“That's why the decision on the Puda Jail land is not a normal decision. We need to develop the right quality assets to give us the recurring income for us to have a future,” he said.

Shopping centres need to be of a big size to attract the traffic to be successful. He said the retail space at the Puda Jail land will require a contiguous space in order to compete against the like of Pavilion and Mid Valley Megamall.

If the carved out proposal gives UDA retail space in three separate locations, Nur Jazlan said it would be hard to attract retailers and shoppers to the retail parts of the development.

“If it is not integrated, it will be hard to attract people. We won't achieve the rental yields.”

Nur Jazlan said the Government had not pumped money into UDA after it got listed in the 1990s and he did not think it would do so in the future. UDA has been asking for more land since it has been privatised but has yet to be allocated any.

Nur Jazlan said it was also easier to stratify the assets if the property was built by a single developer.

“It will be a problem if the land was parcelled out as you will be dealing with three different parties,” he said.

Nur Jazlan said it would not be easier to REIT out at a later date if the assets were jumbled up with different developers.

^^problem problem...surely will take ages to complt

UDA aims for best returns from Pudu Prison land development
By Bernama
Tuesday, 15 May 2012 18:38

JOHOR BAHRU (May 15): UDA Holdings Bhd is of the view that the commercial development model suggested by a company from China for developing the former Pudu Prison land is better than the model proposed by the Finance Ministry.

Chairman Datuk Nur Jazlan Mohamed said the proposed model from the Chinese company will ensure UDA of consistent cash flow returns every year.

"With the consistent cash flow from the commercial development project, UDA would be able to continue to help the Bumiputera community. Without the cashflow, how will UDA be able to help?

"It is the best model in terms of providing commercial returns to UDA," he told reporters after officiating the Juara Rakyat programme held in conjunction with the Kembara Mahkota Johor 2012 event at the Kempas Community Centre here on Tuesday.

The development model suggested by the Ministry of Finance meanwhile will involve the division of the upmarket land in the middle of Kuala Lumpur city into three different parcels.

Nur Jazlan said the joint venture partner for UDA in the development project would have to have a very strong financial background and highly skilled human resources.

He also expressed concern that if the project is carried out along the idea suggested by the Finance Ministry, where the land will be divided into three sections, it might create various problems and the project would be a failure.

If the project runs into problem, then the objective of UDA to have a high value asset capable of generating continued cash returns, would not be met, he said.

UDA will then not be able to continue with its role, Nur Jazlan said, adding that UDA's current cash flow level was weak with a small number of land to its ownership.

Nevertheless, he said the committee formed by UDA to prepare the masterplan for the development project will consider the Finance Ministry's proposal, but would also compare it with the commercial plan suggested by the company from China.

The committee will look into which model will be giving UDA the best commercial returns, Nur Jazlan added. — Bernama