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nick_taylor
May 13th, 2004, 03:50 PM
After being one of the leading members of this sub-forum during its infancy I have decided to finally start up SimCity4 again and brought Rush Hour today - I'm currently downloading a few high rise scrapers - oooohhhh :) SWFC :lolL

CW8
May 14th, 2004, 06:47 AM
After being one of the leading members of this sub-forum during its infancy I have decided to finally start up SimCity4 again and brought Rush Hour today - I'm currently downloading a few high rise scrapers - oooohhhh :) SWFC :lolL

Rush Hour is good, you should have brought it earlier. :D

nick_taylor
May 14th, 2004, 05:23 PM
Its far more easier than SimCity4 was (and it was piss easy then). I went for the hard setting - but im already up to $14mn!!!! Im thinking of going for an all out planned city now with all the funds I have - a massive expansion plan to boost the population to over 2,000,000 in less than 15 years :lol:

nick_taylor
May 14th, 2004, 07:11 PM
Right started afresh and this is the first city of y region: Great Hadham, population: 75,000


http://tools.iso.port.ac.uk/cgi-bin/shelf?get=d1b19c64a5d7b0f858e0ca684a1a8134

nick_taylor
May 15th, 2004, 11:57 PM
I couldn't be bothered to create my own thread, but here is the latest pics from my city. Amazingly I haven't gone past the 160,000 barrier for a few odd reasons!

Commute times seem to be a massive problem. I have average commute times of around 20-30. I have a massive bus, subway, elevated rail, monorail, railway and highway network but there still seem to be massive block ups - it just doesn't add up. I also seem to have oddly 800,000 industrial jobs, 400,000 commercial jobs but only 160,000 citizens - I + C increase, but R keeps fluctuating (goes up to 180,000 and then the next second down to 2,000 people :?).

I never had this problem with the original Simcity4 whatsoever.


Well anyway a few pics:



I've been experimenting with a few little tools - like creating my own docks and canals. I think it makes for a FAR more realistic city - note the little bridges and canal tunnels. Some of the tunnels have tunnels for the side walks and also look at the multiple stairs leading up from the canals :)

http://tools.iso.port.ac.uk/cgi-bin/shelf?get=1c65c8ed7db9f3b9270351e8dea04341



This is the main artery seperating my CBD and main residential area. Note that there are 2 main roads on each side of a highway/motorway as well as a railway line. Further up the map the mess gets worse:
- 2 highways/motorways
- 4 roads
- 3 railway lines
- 1 monorail line

All the above goes in TWO DIRECTIONS - ie north - south and vice versa and all bunched up - it looks totally insane, but currently is a bit messy and I'm gonna have to tidy that up.

http://tools.iso.port.ac.uk/cgi-bin/shelf?get=37d9dc545919ce0b45c590b85db81b08



Another view of the canals I have made.

http://tools.iso.port.ac.uk/cgi-bin/shelf?get=79406a2183ac0405711d118946579b0b



Here, it is possible to view the underpasses I have created. It allows an alternative to the bland bridges that can be created and looks quite cool does it not? As well as easing choke points :)

http://tools.iso.port.ac.uk/cgi-bin/shelf?get=be0eb28cc7c0ba667ec5aeb6424d2d6a



I can't remember the name of the tower in the top right of this pic, but look at the base of the tower and the canal tunnel that goes under it - pretty cool eh :)

http://tools.iso.port.ac.uk/cgi-bin/shelf?get=f61e490626257ac9ecba927da4f1acd1



This is what happens when you build docks and canals and zone and wallah - instant scrapers :)

http://tools.iso.port.ac.uk/cgi-bin/shelf?get=5c8dd98620b4f491e468a423ea974a4a



Look at this picture - you can clearly see all the roads and railway lines are not impeded by road or train traffic. It allows the trains to get to their top speed as well as the road traffic being far more fluid than a normal bridge or rail crossing. Looks far more realistic and cooler also :)

Note the train - note also that they are not normal trains - they are British High Speed Eurostars (unfortunately they don't travel at 300kph :( ) in colour and image.

Note also the length of the train - I counted 40 carriages at least (I took the screenshot early, but the train carried on for a long time as the same train off the map - looked insane, but in this image there are some 20+ carriages viewable :)

http://tools.iso.port.ac.uk/cgi-bin/shelf?get=5b6831532f69a442623e42bc67b1a52b





Well there ya go :)

Style™
May 16th, 2004, 12:26 AM
Want me to split the posts off so that it is your own thread?

nick_taylor
May 16th, 2004, 12:57 AM
Yeah might as well :P


My region view - just look at all those highways for a 150k population YET traffic is still chronic!!!!!!!!!! There has to be something seriously wrong with the game engine!!!

http://tools.iso.port.ac.uk/cgi-bin/shelf?get=e83875947af71587cbcab3ae6d581546

nick_taylor
May 16th, 2004, 02:12 AM
Cheers :)

I have an idea for a Boston-esque "Big Dig" with western and eastern industrial estates being connected up via two massive highways and 2 rail lins going underneath - maybe a connection in the middle between the current Resi + Comm districts :)

I've got like now only 2 roads in my ENTIRE city that overlap with roads - in other words all other avenues, roads and motorways go above or below via a flyover or tunnel of the railway lines - it killed commuting city wide by a massive 30!!!!!!

Monkey
May 16th, 2004, 02:27 AM
Nice pics ... I'd love to get back into SimCity again. It's been over a year since I played any of them, as I sold my home computer. Unfortunately the second-hand PC I recently bought is probably too slow :(
Might be able to run SC2000 though.

nick_taylor
May 16th, 2004, 02:41 PM
Something weird happened....I loaded up and the population fell to around 30,000..then rocketed up to the current population of around 360k :)

http://tools.iso.port.ac.uk/cgi-bin/shelf?get=ae9d321ab0d2aab9b4595c26de8e59b7

nick_taylor
May 16th, 2004, 09:46 PM
My region is now well on the way to become large. Behold - my newest city of Much Hadham - 0 residents, but home to 700,000 industrial jobs. I have no idea how I got this figure - growth was instantaneous and I could not believe it - I downloaded the patch and its totally revolutionised my city.

Behold an updated Region Map

http://tools.iso.port.ac.uk/cgi-bin/shelf?get=c86146d4304928824ff9095d474c9133

nick_taylor
May 17th, 2004, 01:44 AM
Time for some more updates :)

My new city - Hadham Ford
http://www.xpphotoalbum.com/data/500/10484region4.JPG?8290


New region map :)
http://tools.iso.port.ac.uk/cgi-bin/shelf?get=7115e6a544c1b1a35b0b3cde66ad4552


My new region transport map :)
http://tools.iso.port.ac.uk/cgi-bin/shelf?get=9c2d55ad83f8d23ab88af46eabe395bd

nick_taylor
May 17th, 2004, 11:26 PM
Woosh - another update, considering I've been playing this region for 3 days :) (I brought Rush Hour 4 days ago). Region well into the millions - my new city down in the right hand corner has a population of around 850,000 - considering the limitations of land its quite impressive non?


http://tools.iso.port.ac.uk/cgi-bin/shelf?get=6528a917a773b0f612e4a7857156a152

Rainier Meadows
May 18th, 2004, 09:48 AM
nick where did you download all those cool buildings? :eek:

nick_taylor
May 18th, 2004, 11:14 AM
I guess your referring to the buildings in this pic:

http://tools.iso.port.ac.uk/cgi-bin/shelf?get=d1b19c64a5d7b0f858e0ca684a1a8134




Go to www.simtropolis.com --> BAT exchange - wallah Dusktrooper has a few good buildings. But a few other towers are being made like Petronas, a Union Square look alike and hundreds of others.

The best thing I like is the Eurostar trainset which really does look like 400m+ long (thats how long the passenger trains are in real life) - longest train I have ever seen :)

nick_taylor
May 18th, 2004, 04:37 PM
My city names are all real and come from little villages from around where I live (Bishop's Stortford) :)

http://tools.iso.port.ac.uk/cgi-bin/shelf?get=e161fd8f3e848afc4de2e2e113129764

Woko
May 18th, 2004, 10:52 PM
nick_taylor,

How do you make a canals?

nick_taylor
May 18th, 2004, 11:31 PM
Oohhh - it can be a TRICKY thing to do, first of all download this pack:

http://www.simcitycentral.net/files/details.php?id=14

You might want to also download this expansion pack:

http://www.simcitycentral.net/files/details.php?id=30


Use roads to plan and map the canals - it can be confusing and quite depressing - but keep persisting!! ALSO - MAKE SURE YOUR LAND IS TOTALLY FLAT!!!!!!!!




Heres another picture - unfortunately I aint had the time (I'm on fieldtrip work ALL this week and I have several exams next week as well :O) to show a cool intersection I have made, I also made an underground tunnel - they were hard to do a year ago when SC4 first came out, and they still are, but they are possible - I have a massive one that stretches from what is the industrial centre to a new core :)

Well anyway another piccie for you all to drool over - the bridge is a real life bridge! And yes that clock does say year 76 - constant expansion + high taxes enable me to continue on going :)

http://www.xpphotoalbum.com/data/500/10484canal_bridge.JPG?529


I'm also trying to create a massive commieblock area - chemical waste dumps thank you :)

Woko
May 18th, 2004, 11:36 PM
thanks :)

nick_taylor
May 19th, 2004, 06:33 PM
Time for an update of my region. This is a pic of a dual carriageway junction - highly effective in most instances - it reduces the majort problems of bottlenecks.

http://www.xpphotoalbum.com/data/500/10484a_proper_dual_carriageway_junction.JPG?2285



The Eastern Entrance to the Blackwall Tunnel - not a major crossing yet, but once I develop the next door city it will be a MAJOR thoroughfare

http://www.xpphotoalbum.com/data/500/10484Blackwall_Tunnel_Eastern_Exit.JPG?2638



Western Exit of the Blackwall Tunnel - this side is part of the major industrial complex which spans already some 3 cities and about 2million industrial jobs

http://www.xpphotoalbum.com/data/500/10484Blackwall_Tunnel_Western_Exit.JPG?1594



In this picture is a VERY FAMOUS landmark - can any of you guess what it is?

http://www.xpphotoalbum.com/data/500/10484Can_anyone_tell_me_the_name_of_this_building.JPG?725



A dock island and really only a test for my next city (this land area will become the Bishops Stortford & Hertford Park - it will extend from this city and spread over 5 cities :)
http://www.xpphotoalbum.com/data/500/10484Dock_Island.JPG?250



Hadham Ford aerial from a British Airways bound flight to Little Hadham International ;)

http://www.xpphotoalbum.com/data/500/10484Hadham_Ford_from_afar.JPG?7785



The northern end of Hadham Ford Island - this little stretch of island accomodates some 200,000 people!!!!! Its ULTRA high density living. The western bridge is Hammersmith Bridge, while the eastern bridge is Hunter Bridge :)

http://www.xpphotoalbum.com/data/500/10484Hammersmith_Bridge.JPG?1476



Hong Kong Density :) The small building down there I believe is the Mayor's Mansion

http://www.xpphotoalbum.com/data/500/10484HK_density.JPG?6419



Hong Kong Density once more :)

http://www.xpphotoalbum.com/data/500/10484HK_Density_2.JPG?1169



This is Little Paris :lol:

http://www.xpphotoalbum.com/data/500/10484Its_Paris_.JPG?8061



Nothing of exceptional interest other than the lovely bridges and the lights on top :)

http://www.xpphotoalbum.com/data/500/10484Lights_on_bridges.JPG?8923



Much Hadham Freight Terminal :)

http://www.xpphotoalbum.com/data/500/10484Much_Hadham_Freight_Terminal.JPG?2467



Nice ocean view in Hadham Ford :)

http://www.xpphotoalbum.com/data/500/10484Nice_Ocean_View.JPG?3836



Ong Hell :lol:

http://www.xpphotoalbum.com/data/500/10484Ong_Heaven.JPG?612



Satellite image of Little Hadham Region :lol:

http://www.xpphotoalbum.com/data/500/10484Overview.JPG?7729



Way to much HT Industry!!!

http://www.xpphotoalbum.com/data/500/10484WAY_to_much_HT_.JPG?4515



Another road underpass :)

http://www.xpphotoalbum.com/data/500/10484Road_underpass.JPG?288



Damn you stupid sims - crashing and blowing up :lol:

http://www.xpphotoalbum.com/data/500/10484Road_Crash.JPG?9393



The Blackwall Tunnel. The island to the right is Blackwall and Limetown. The island in the centre is Hadham Ford Island and the island to the bottom left is King Island

http://www.xpphotoalbum.com/data/500/10484Overview_of_Blackwall_Bridge.JPG?705

wolkenkrabber
May 21st, 2004, 04:14 AM
did you ever thing about to get the idustry quadrapler?

nick_taylor
May 21st, 2004, 09:36 AM
I actually tried that out on one city months back and then I stopped playing Simcity4. I don't think I still have it on my system, considering if you look at my region map - 3/4 of all urban development is industrial

AndrewC
May 21st, 2004, 04:23 PM
How do you manage to be such a stud and yet a huge geeky game designer at the same time nick :D

nick_taylor
May 21st, 2004, 11:47 PM
Game designer :?

I actually haven't touched a single game since X-Mas and that was Max Payne 2, before X-Mas, the last time I touched a game was Simcity4 and that was back last summer. I've only just started it up again cause I was bored and all uni life is beginning its wind down.

SimCity to me is piss easy - its basic micro/macro economics slapped together and its just so easy it doesn't dare to require contemplation :)


Tonight I thought I would play an hour and two..........and......wallah :


http://www.xpphotoalbum.com/data/500/10484region_map.JPG?9177

nick_taylor
May 26th, 2004, 10:36 AM
My mega Hadham International Airport :lol:

http://www.xpphotoalbum.com/data/500/10484airport.JPG?1168



My MEGA cluster!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can you notice something odd about the highway/motorway :)

http://www.xpphotoalbum.com/data/500/10484mega_cluster.JPG?3778



A major junction :)

http://www.xpphotoalbum.com/data/500/10484junction.JPG?2005

flex
May 26th, 2004, 04:00 PM
damn, great city!

LSyd
May 26th, 2004, 05:24 PM
How do you manage to be such a stud and yet a huge geeky game designer at the same time nick :D

it's the internet. i could be a 16-year-old girl tonight if i wanted!

looks nice, but the use of the word "mega" is trademarked by me. cease and desist or i'll nuke your city into a nice glass beach.

:borg:

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Style™
May 26th, 2004, 08:51 PM
nice cluster of buildings. rate your city! ;)

[Kees]
May 27th, 2004, 06:49 PM
http://www.xpphotoalbum.com/data/500/10484junction.JPG?2005

In the right there's a one way highway. Were you downloaded it? Simtropolis?

Cyril
May 30th, 2004, 09:21 AM
Where can we download those underpasses and one-way highways please? Those are exciting :D

nick_taylor
May 30th, 2004, 10:57 AM
The one way highways are tricks...........I've uploaded a tutorial that I downloaded elsewhere here for you to attempt them - quite asthetic and they can get insanely busy. The underpasses are actual tunnels just carved into the ground

When you start the download rename it from "shelf" to whatever you like :)

http://tools.iso.port.ac.uk/cgi-bin/shelf?get=1b5c93b7d72e5be78cfcbb38bba030fa








A few more pics.....although one of my cities seems to have corrupted :? and it won't run so I think I'm gonna have to reset that one!


http://www.xpphotoalbum.com/data/500/10484Wareside-15_Jan_3011085512219.JPG?1286


http://www.xpphotoalbum.com/data/500/10484Wareside-23_May_2811085507839.JPG?6795


http://www.xpphotoalbum.com/data/500/10484Wareside-26_Jun_1051085168696.JPG?2109

Style™
May 30th, 2004, 04:51 PM
Commie blocks!!!!


For some reason when I plop residential buildings they NEVER work. Anyone know why?

nick_taylor
May 30th, 2004, 05:16 PM
I never plop buildings that are not commie blocks - those last 2 builds have been "pruned" to that shape. In the screenshot of the european style apartments - I have placed 1x1 tiles of small parks to stop "growth spread" ie - they are forced to develop into 1x1, 1x2, 1x3, etc lots. The Commie block one was complete fluke - just the rapid growth and conditions meant that it developed like that :)

Manuel
June 5th, 2004, 01:11 PM
how do you do underpasses Nick ?

LSyd
June 11th, 2004, 08:28 PM
http://www.xpphotoalbum.com/data/500/10484mega_cluster.JPG?3778

what's the first building from the left, very tall with huge antenna, so i can download it? ooooh, it's sweet.

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