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b_two January 30th, 2010, 01:20 PM Sky City Condominium (77-story condominium)
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from manila standard today (http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/insideNews.htm?f=2010/january/30/news2.isx&d=2010/january/30)
Supreme Court okays Edsa-Ortigas high-rise
30 January, 2010
by Rey E. Requejo
RESIDENTS of posh Greenhills East in Mandaluyong have lost their appeal with the Supreme Court to stop a developer from building the country’s tallest structure, a 77-story condominium on EDSA and Ortigas Avenue.
In rejecting the petition of the Greenhills East Association Inc. for lack of merit, the Supreme Court’s Second Division said because the issues raised were factual, it would defer to the expertise of the Housing and Land Use Regulatory Board.
The latest ruling affirms the Dec. 21, 2004 decision of the Court of Appeals in favor of the developer, E. Ganzon Inc., over the 4,109-square-meter lot in Wack-Wack village owned by San Buena Realty and Development Corp.
The developer wants to build Skycity Condominium, a 77-story mixed-use building with an eight-level basement on the property, which is near the Greenhills East Subdivision and bounded by EDSA to the east, Florida Street to the north, Block 4 of the subdivision and a narrow creek in the west, and Ortigas Avenue in the south, near the Securities and Exchange Commission and La Salle Greenhills.
E. Ganzon fenced off the site in 1997, demolished the structures on it and began excavation work, but the Greenhills East Association opposed the project the following year before the Housing and Land Use Regulatory Board.
In November 1999, a board arbiter dismissed the residents’ opposition. When they also lost an appeal to the Office of the President, the residents took their case to the Court of Appeals, which ruled against them in 2004.
In their ruling, the Supreme Court justices said they had no expertise in judging the facts of the case.
“No matter how hard it tries to learn the technical intricacies of certain highly regulated human activities, the Supreme Court will always be inadequately equipped to identify the facts that matter when resolving issues involving such activities,” Associate Justice Roberto Abad said in his decision.
“Invariably, the Court must respect the factual findings of administrative agencies which have expertise on matters that fall within their jurisdiction. Here, since the [board] has the expertise in applying zonal classifications on specific properties and since petitioner GEA fails to make out a clear case that it has erred, the court must rely on [the board’s] finding.”
The Court said it would “not dwell on the other matters raised concerning environmental requirements respecting light, ventilation, drainage, sewerage, waste disposal, and pollution relating to the project,” adding that “these matters very well fall under the competence of other government agencies.”
The housing and land use board would certainly not approve a building that did not meet all the legal requirements, the Court said.
:banana::banana::banana:
If there is a similar thread please do consider erasing this one and repasting it on the existing thread. thanks.
lanrocksea January 30th, 2010, 02:14 PM finally :applause:
queetz@home January 30th, 2010, 05:21 PM Wow! This new is HUGE! The question is, does E. Ganzon still has the will and funds to move on with the project???
IsaganiZenze January 30th, 2010, 08:07 PM let's see where their money is coming from...with this economy i highly doubt this will get build....
let's hope they have a magical stash on money somewhere:cheers:
queetz@home January 30th, 2010, 09:18 PM ^^ If I recall, the way they were planning to raise the funds was a Line of Credit and pre-sales from the residential portion. I can't recall which bank it was but it was one of the major ones (I think HSBC but not sure). Of course, this was before the collapse of Lehman Brothers so it will be harder to obtain easy credit for this type of project now.
It will be interesting if they do build it at its current form, or whether they would downgrade or even upgrade. With Grammercy in full swing as the tallest in the country and no other competitors (Lopez Tower is dead, the BGC ones won't even beat the existing PBCom Tower, One Galleon is still in the drawing board), there is a reason to be somewhat competitive for the race to the tallest. Plus there are already some significant developments in the area (i.e. resurrecting the AMA Tower is one of them and that Eton BPO).
RonnieR January 31st, 2010, 06:16 AM ^^ finally, the case is settled. :cheers:
^^ If I recall, the way they were planning to raise the funds was a Line of Credit and pre-sales from the residential portion. I can't recall which bank it was but it was one of the major ones (I think HSBC but not sure). Of course, this was before the collapse of Lehman Brothers so it will be harder to obtain easy credit for this type of project now.
It will be interesting if they do build it at its current form, or whether they would downgrade or even upgrade. With Grammercy in full swing as the tallest in the country and no other competitors (Lopez Tower is dead, the BGC ones won't even beat the existing PBCom Tower, One Galleon is still in the drawing board), there is a reason to be somewhat competitive for the race to the tallest. Plus there are already some significant developments in the area (i.e. resurrecting the AMA Tower is one of them and that Eton BPO).
In Inquirer today (full page ad), Picar claimed that Stratford Residences will be the tallest in the country. :)
GreenPeas January 31st, 2010, 04:52 PM http://www.emporis.com/images/5/2000/07/105141.jpg
from emporis
anakngpasig February 1st, 2010, 01:05 AM i have the same question as queetz's. i really hope they are still not tired of this project and will find funds somehow. this is interesting development.
i also hope DENR would approve of them cutting the rainforest that has grown in the excavation site! :lol: :lol:
diz February 1st, 2010, 01:06 AM sounds 10 years too late.
venntro February 1st, 2010, 02:13 AM ^^ If I recall, the way they were planning to raise the funds was a Line of Credit and pre-sales from the residential portion. I can't recall which bank it was but it was one of the major ones (I think HSBC but not sure). Of course, this was before the collapse of Lehman Brothers so it will be harder to obtain easy credit for this type of project now.
It will be interesting if they do build it at its current form, or whether they would downgrade or even upgrade. With Grammercy in full swing as the tallest in the country and no other competitors (Lopez Tower is dead, the BGC ones won't even beat the existing PBCom Tower, One Galleon is still in the drawing board), there is a reason to be somewhat competitive for the race to the tallest. Plus there are already some significant developments in the area (i.e. resurrecting the AMA Tower is one of them and that Eton BPO).
There were news before that EGI is planning to do an IPO just for purposes of raising funds for this building.
Bricken Ridge February 1st, 2010, 02:44 AM Ok so let's hear what's EGI's end of this story. We can only hope they are still interested to complete or even surpass this project. This was their flagship project and right now, none of their current plans can even get this close.
Planning Democracy February 1st, 2010, 03:12 AM Sky City Condominium (77-story condominium)
from manila standard today (http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/insideNews.htm?f=2010/january/30/news2.isx&d=2010/january/30)
Supreme Court okays Edsa-Ortigas high-rise
I'm all for mega projects but this is not a good place to build a building of this size. First of all consider the number of office spaces this building is gonna have, this part of EDSA and Ortigas already suffers congestion as it is.
It should be re-designed to mitigate this problem, like having the main access to the building from behind instead of facing Ortigas or EDSA, or integrating an additional MRT Station inside the building.
manila_eye February 1st, 2010, 03:17 AM not really a known developer... how can they raise money?
Bricken Ridge February 1st, 2010, 07:55 AM I'm all for mega projects but this is not a good place to build a building of this size. First of all consider the number of office spaces this building is gonna have, this part of EDSA and Ortigas already suffers congestion as it is.
It should be re-designed to mitigate this problem, like having the main access to the building from behind instead of facing Ortigas or EDSA, or integrating an additional MRT Station inside the building.
This could mean more delay if they ever decide to push this project. Integrating an MRT couldn't be that simple and it should have been planned a long time ago. Couldn't agree more on its odd location.
leechtat February 1st, 2010, 08:41 AM I'm all for mega projects but this is not a good place to build a building of this size. First of all consider the number of office spaces this building is gonna have, this part of EDSA and Ortigas already suffers congestion as it is.
It should be re-designed to mitigate this problem, like having the main access to the building from behind instead of facing Ortigas or EDSA, or integrating an additional MRT Station inside the building.
^^ i must agree as well. this area of edsa is already inducing high-volume traffic for the makati-bound vehicles, which stretches up until the gma-kamuning area... they must rethink placing this high-rise here, or they can maybe provide a perimeter road bordering the property like the one we see for jazz residences...
GreenPeas February 1st, 2010, 12:10 PM I'm all for mega projects but this is not a good place to build a building of this size. First of all consider the number of office spaces this building is gonna have, this part of EDSA and Ortigas already suffers congestion as it is.
It should be re-designed to mitigate this problem, like having the main access to the building from behind instead of facing Ortigas or EDSA, or integrating an additional MRT Station inside the building. even if this building is erected, there will be no traffic difference along EDSA. there's an existing bus station below the flyover and is crisscrossed by an elevated walkway. Entrance and exit of cars will always be managable. like those entering Sta lucia, POEA or Galleria
RonnieR February 1st, 2010, 12:13 PM It is odd that after winning the case, the developer is silent in the media.
asc25dbtc February 1st, 2010, 02:13 PM i reallly want this to be built. but i agree also that the location should be in a different place like makti, bgc or even ortigas center.
adgaps February 1st, 2010, 03:12 PM http://www.emporis.com/images/5/2000/07/105141.jpg
from emporis
^^ parang usok na lang kulang, mukha nang planta... :lol::lol:
BeforeSunRise February 1st, 2010, 03:38 PM after ondoy floods, i think we should think about earthquakes next. developers don't devulge their engineering design against tremors. They only show us very nice renderings of building design. We should remember that the taller the building the higher the risk against earthquakes.
b_two February 1st, 2010, 05:12 PM ^^^^
i would like to believe that the proponents of this project are responsible and humane enough to think and effect actions regarding the safety of those people who will make this awesome tower their home. besides, government agencies will not issue permits and other needed documents if they find some flaws in the plans that would put future inhabitants of the tower in harms way. (fingers crossed)
leechtat February 1st, 2010, 05:40 PM after ondoy floods, i think we should think about earthquakes next. developers don't devulge their engineering design against tremors. They only show us very nice renderings of building design. We should remember that the taller the building the higher the risk against earthquakes.
^^ most Metro Manila high-rise was built to withstand an intensity 9.5 earthquake. The strongest quake experienced in the PI is last july 16, 1990 at intensity 7.7. if you have qualms on this, ask your agents first of the structural design and foundation of the bldg.
todjikid February 1st, 2010, 06:30 PM after ondoy floods, i think we should think about earthquakes next. developers don't devulge their engineering design against tremors. They only show us very nice renderings of building design. We should remember that the taller the building the higher the risk against earthquakes.
actually after watching national geographic special on earthquakes. mid-rise daw muna then the tall ones. kasi the tall ones can wobble (ride the waves) unlike the midrises ones which are inelastic and has the tendency to be brittle. from someone who got a midrise...pero earthquakes, it will happen when it will happen. pray na lang.
rolfo February 2nd, 2010, 04:41 PM ^^ most Metro Manila high-rise was built to withstand an intensity 9.5 earthquake.
do you have any source for this? 9.5 seems pretty high.
queetz@home February 3rd, 2010, 12:29 AM ^^ Not sure about 9.5, I think that is pretty high. Such an event is rare and pretty much a localize apocalypse.
That said, I believe the building code in Metro Manila is the same as California, which is pretty stringent. Its been like that since the collapse of the Ruby Tower. Add to that, its not really in the best interest of any major developer or contractor to build shoddy structures. Why?
If a structure is really shoddy, it won't take long for it to collapse. The biggest threat to skyscrapers is not groundshaking, its the wind. And given that we have very strong typhoons every year, if a building strong enough to withstand extreme hurricane force winds, it can topple.
And yes, wind can topple skyscrapers. Look for the story of the Citicorp Centre in NYC for more info. Its quite an interesting piece of skyscraper history...
--SuperB0y-- February 3rd, 2010, 05:03 AM ^^^ in regards with earthquakes, what's in danger in actuality are the old structures around the metro. those old buildings/movie houses in Cubao, Recto and Avenida.
chris_nigel February 4th, 2010, 11:25 AM buhay na uli tong thread na to...sa wakas...baka mamaya may nabuhay ng kung ano sa ilalim ng hukay...sana mag commence na ang construction
watcher09 February 4th, 2010, 02:33 PM buhay na uli tong thread na to...sa wakas...baka mamaya may nabuhay ng kung ano sa ilalim ng hukay...sana mag commence na ang construction
It's alive again, though, earthquake is the topic. Sana may bagong good news.
Juan_Tamad February 4th, 2010, 05:47 PM Sa Palawan pala ang safest. :) Eto sabi ng Inquirer:
Palawan safest, no earthquake faults
RP Fault Zone one of world’s longest at 1,200 km
By Alcuin Papa
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 23:50:00 01/16/2010
Filed Under: Earthquake
APART from the profusion of spectacular landscapes and seascapes that has made it the favorite of many travelers, it would seem that the paradise island of Palawan also offers the safest haven for those fearful of a Haiti-like tremor occurring in the country.
Compared to other parts of the Philippines, Palawan is “relatively stable” geologically, according to Mahar Lagmay, a professor of the University of the Philippines National Institute of Geological Sciences (UP-NIGS).
“There are hardly any earthquakes in Palawan and certainly none strong enough to cause major damage. The whole island is probably the most stable area of land in the country,” Lagmay said.
An expert on earthquake faults, Lagmay has constructed a map of earthquake epicenters which he plotted using information from the United States Geological Survey (USGS) from 1929 to 2009.
Lagmay said there were hardly any active faults under the island compared to the rest of the country. (A fault or fault line is a fracture in the rock within the earth’s crust that is the causal location of most earthquakes.)
Continental, not oceanic, rock
While Palawan does have fault lines, these are “old” and experts are still debating whether these fault lines are active or not, Lagmay said.
For instance, there is an ongoing and heated debate on whether the Ulugan Bay fault near the famed Palawan Underground River is active, Lagmay said.
Lagmay believes Palawan is stable largely because the island was once part of continental Asia which separated around 100 million years ago and drifted toward the Philippines.
“The rock of the island is continental and different from other parts of the country, which is made of oceanic rock,” he said.
Hence, the crust of the island is thicker at 30 kilometers, compared to the oceanic rock’s 12 km, having derived from the Pacific seabed.
“The crust of the island is thicker and older and, therefore, not as prone to earthquakes,” said Lagmay.
No major faults
The island is also not bordered by any major trench or fault line, he said.
“The South China Sea area is more stable tectonically. Combined with the continental material, there is little chance for the development of active faults in Palawan,” he said.
Also, the movement of the ground in the South China Sea is not as fast as the eastern side of Luzon, which is moving toward the Asian mainland at the rate of 7 centimeters a year, and the eastern side of Mindanao, which is moving toward the Asian mainland at 10 cm a year.
“Because of the slow movement, there is no compression of forces in the island,” Lagmay said.
On the other hand, large parts of the Philippine archipelago are sandwiched between two trenches, the Manila Trench in the west and the Philippine Trench in the east.
“Movements in these trenches generate stress in the faults. That is why there are so many earthquakes in the mainland [Philippines],” he said.
“If you ask me where I would build a house in the country, I’d say Palawan,” he said.
Longest fault system
According to Lagmay, the Philippines is encased in an intricate network of trenches and faults that is one of the most, if not the most complex in the world in terms of tectonics and geology.
The centerpiece of the country’s fault system is the Philippine Fault Zone (PFZ) which is one of the longest in the world at around 1,200 km.
The PFZ starts in Aparri and snakes past the Cordilleras, passing through Nueva Ecija, down to Quezon and the Bondoc Peninsula into Leyte, and from there skipping into northern Mindanao to the southern end of the island into Davao.
The PFZ, Lagmay explained, is a left-lateral strike slip fault. This means that if you were to put one foot on one side of the fault and the other foot on the other side of the fault, the left side of the fault would be moving toward you while the right side would be moving away from you. Also, the right side, or block, would be more advanced than the left block.
A strike-slip fault means the two blocks are moving against each other horizontally.
Lagmay explained that the length of the fault is related to its capacity to generate a large- magnitude earthquake.
“The larger the fault, the greater its potential to produce a strong earthquake,” he said.
In 1990, the PFZ generated a 7.9-magnitude quake that shook Metro Manila and Luzon.
Underwater trenches
Other earthquake fault lines are the trenches running underwater on the western and eastern sides of the country.
There is the Manila Trench on the west of the country which runs from the Batanes islands, curving through the waters off the Ilocos region, Pangasinan, Zambales and into Mindoro island.
According to the Philippine Institute of Volcanology and Seismology (Phivolcs), movement in the Manila Trench caused the Jan. 12 magnitude 5.2 earthquake near Olongapo City that was felt in Metro Manila.
There is also the longer Philippine Trench located underwater east of the country. It runs roughly from waters off Aurora down to Samar, and past Mindanao.
Other underwater trenches in the country include the East Luzon Trough, the Negros Trench that is connected to the Sulu Trench, and the Cotabato Trench.
Smaller faults
In addition, there are also the smaller faults. Notable of the smaller fault lines is the Valley Fault System, also known as the Western Marikina Valley Fault System, which is nearest to Metro Manila.
According to Lagmay, Metro Manila was damaged heavily six times in the last 400 years by earthquakes. But the source of these earthquakes is uncertain.
A study by the USGS and the Phivolcs in 2000 showed that the Valley Fault experienced four large surface rupture events since 600 AD, occurring over a period separated by between 200 and 400 years. The study also said the last fault event in the Valley Fault occurred in the past 200 years.
Lagmay said the Valley Fault is capable of generating an earthquake with a magnitude of between 6 and 7.
Luzon, Mindanao faults
Besides the Valley Fault system, other faults in Luzon include the West Ilocos Fault System, the Dummon River Fault System in Cagayan, the East Zambales Fault, the Iba Fault and the Lubang Fault.
Fault systems in the Visayas include the West Panay Fault, the Southern Samar Lineament, the Central Negros Fault, the Cebu Lineament and the East Bohol Fault.
In Mindanao, there is the Mindanao Fault, the Lanao Fault System, the Davao River Fault, the Central Mindanao Fault and the Tangbulan Fault.
The result of all these faults is that between 5,000 and 7,000 earthquakes occur in the country each year, or an average of between 200 and 250 quakes a day, according to Phivolcs. But most of these earthquakes are not felt. Last year, Phivolcs tallied around 210 earthquakes in the country.
“As we are talking right now, there is a small earthquake occurring somewhere in the country,” Lagmay said.
hecky12 February 7th, 2010, 09:36 AM yup yup... palawan is the only place in the country na safe sa earthquake dahil walang faultine dun..
nayki February 8th, 2010, 06:21 AM I believe the site is not a good place to build a super highrise building,that intersection is very busy. They might consider building a 250 meteres below structure.
b_two February 8th, 2010, 09:42 PM ^^^^
imo this is a prime location. any developer would kill just to get hold of this property. :lol:
Jude12 February 11th, 2010, 12:29 PM Ang lalim na yung site nito. :lol: baka may mga hayop na dun
bbsssc February 11th, 2010, 04:17 PM Wow another super tall, sana ituloy ito ng developer. Para may kasunod na kaagad ang Gramercy =)
chris_nigel February 21st, 2010, 09:21 AM wala pa din groundworks dun sa sa site...
redriverads March 7th, 2010, 02:11 PM the project is nice... but, yup, it might have been 10 years too late...
and the design? imho, they should change it.. baduy! gold? concrete facade? typically '80s ... sabagay, retro naman EGI eh :P
GreenPeas March 8th, 2010, 02:06 PM SUPER TALL! SUPER TALL! I WANT A SUPPA TALL TAWOHR!!!
Skyscraper Noel April 13th, 2010, 03:32 PM Are there nay reports, or renderings or major changes for this tower, i hope this construction begins now.
IslandSon.PH April 25th, 2010, 08:49 PM SC decision on 77-storey Skycity condo project affirmed with finality:banana:
April 24, 2010, 3:29pm
The Second Division of the Supreme Court ruled with finality on the right of the Skycity to be developed within a C-2 Zone in a parcel of land along the corner of EDSA and Ortigas Avenue, Mandaluyong City.
The lot used to be the site of the Tropical Hut Hamburger and Restaurant and Supermarket, a bank, parking spaces, through-street from Florida Street to Ortigas Avenue and a telecom tower.
In a Resolution dated March 10, 2010, the Supreme Court upheld its decision dated January 22, 2010 that the proposed Skycity project can be legally constructed by its owners in the lot which belongs to a C-2 Zone, different and distinct from the residential zone where the oppositors, the Greenhills East Association (GEA), is physically located. By resolving to deny the Motion for Reconsideration of GEA with finality, the Supreme Court noted that “the basic issues raised therein hav [-ing] been duly considered and passed upon by the Court in the aforesaid decision and no substantial argument hav [-ing] been adduced to warrant the reconsideration sought.”
"Since the decision was promulgated on January 22, GEA made several motions and manifestations which the Supreme Court duly noted. It nevertheless resolved with objectivity and impartiality the issues involved and finally put a stop to endless babble on the case. Thus, the proposed 77-storey condominium building with 8 basements is now cleared to proceed with its construction 14 years after its planning and design," Bienvenido G. de Castro, EGI Vice President-External Affairs said.
"The proponent, E Ganzon, Inc. hopes that its oppositors would now cooperate to realize the project which had unduly been delayed to the prejudice of its developer, the livelihood of those it stands to benefit during the interim, and the Filipino people in general who had been deprived of doing business in an environmentally friendly building because of their opposition," De Castro added.
De Castro said the project would still have to secure other permits, clearances and licenses as any other development project normally goes through under the current practice. But, with the patriotic help of its neighbors and government agencies, the project is supposed to clear the various regulatory requirements without a hitch. It is clearly the right of the owner of the lot to use its land pursuant to its ownership and the laws regulating its exercise, as the Supreme Court declared.
The Skycity would have several fire refuge zones, treat its sewer water prior to discharge, provide sufficient parking in the building and manage traffic within the building as well as cooperate with the local government in traffic management outside the building. It will have a program for the conservation of the environment during the lifetime of the building and implement solid waste management pursuant to law.
diz April 26th, 2010, 04:06 AM It ticks me off how late they came to a conclusion...
When this project was first announced, Philippine projects actually possessed class... such class has gone away ever since.
I've yet to scan through all the project threads in this subforum and find 10 that make me think "hmm... what an amazing project."
queetz@home April 26th, 2010, 05:13 AM ^^ No kidding eh? I think there should be a case study regarding the saga of Skycity showing an example of Nimbyism at its finest.
The question now is whether construction will begin soon. While 14 years is a long time, note that other projects in the Philippines has an even longer idling time, the now Alpha Land building in EDSA being the prime example. Also note that aside from Skycity, other buildings such as Burgundy Empire has yet to be completed. Plus there is also the SM-KS towers, which had several incarnations already but still nothing is rising from the Podium. At least the AMA Tower was somehow resurrected, but not as cool as the original.
One thing nice about Skycity though is it hasn't suffered the fate Rockwell's Lopez Tower so far. Now having a similar fate as Lopez Tower (site to be used by a less ambitious project) would be the ultimate disaster but lets hope it doesn't come to that and EGI does deliver...
Manila-X April 26th, 2010, 07:19 AM ^^ No kidding eh? I think there should be a case study regarding the saga of Skycity showing an example of Nimbyism at its finest.
The question now is whether construction will begin soon. While 14 years is a long time, note that other projects in the Philippines has an even longer idling time, the now Alpha Land building in EDSA being the prime example. Also note that aside from Skycity, other buildings such as Burgundy Empire has yet to be completed. Plus there is also the SM-KS towers, which had several incarnations already but still nothing is rising from the Podium. At least the AMA Tower was somehow resurrected, but not as cool as the original.
One thing nice about Skycity though is it hasn't suffered the fate Rockwell's Lopez Tower so far. Now having a similar fate as Lopez Tower (site to be used by a less ambitious project) would be the ultimate disaster but lets hope it doesn't come to that and EGI does deliver...
Good thing though Gramercy in Makati pushed through and its up and rising. At least 1 supertall managed to make it through!
richard24 April 26th, 2010, 10:43 AM I do hope they push through with this project!
Unlike the company that is building (was supposed to build) The Burgundy Empire, EGI (i think) has money. They have an U/C condo in Timog Ave, and its rising pretty fast. Im 90% sure they're still considering this project. The big question is, are they going to stick to the plan? or play it ala "AMA Tower" with the huge downgrade?
KnightOfTheFlag August 19th, 2010, 06:24 AM Any updates? Pictures?...i hope this push through its so much delayed already, actually the developer want this building 14 year ago ( well maybe 12 years, time for the construction ) because back then there are not much high end condos but now high end condos is mushrooming across manila...do you think the developer will continue this? I hope the developer doesn't still has the fund and still is feasible to build this..
Cityauthor October 8th, 2010, 12:38 PM i designed this building back in 96, and i glad see it recently won approval - it spent alot of time being used to promote software. I need to get back in touch with the client.
richard24 October 8th, 2010, 12:40 PM ^^ wow. cool! would you know if they're still going to use your design?
Huskies37 January 5th, 2011, 12:40 AM ANY UPDATE SIR!!!
asc25dbtc June 24th, 2011, 01:34 PM guys! binili n dw ng robinsons land ang lot ng egi skycity. which means na hindi na hawak ng EGI ang fate ng project n to.
makatiprime June 24th, 2011, 03:24 PM wow...skycity din kaya ang height ng building na itatayo ng robinson???
crossboneka June 24th, 2011, 04:54 PM ^^ baka underground mall.
bledzoe June 25th, 2011, 12:50 PM Since this was already been given a go signal and resolved with finality by the Supreme Court , i guess Robinsons Land Corporation guys are confident this project will push thru without any other legal impediments.
i just hope they will stay true with the old design or come up with a better one...
RLC, in my observation, always deliver with their projects...
Sky City Condominium (77-story condominium)
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from manila standard today (http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/insideNews.htm?f=2010/january/30/news2.isx&d=2010/january/30)
Supreme Court okays Edsa-Ortigas high-rise
30 January, 2010
by Rey E. Requejo
RESIDENTS of posh Greenhills East in Mandaluyong have lost their appeal with the Supreme Court to stop a developer from building the country’s tallest structure, a 77-story condominium on EDSA and Ortigas Avenue.
In rejecting the petition of the Greenhills East Association Inc. for lack of merit, the Supreme Court’s Second Division said because the issues raised were factual, it would defer to the expertise of the Housing and Land Use Regulatory Board.
The latest ruling affirms the Dec. 21, 2004 decision of the Court of Appeals in favor of the developer, E. Ganzon Inc., over the 4,109-square-meter lot in Wack-Wack village owned by San Buena Realty and Development Corp.
The developer wants to build Skycity Condominium, a 77-story mixed-use building with an eight-level basement on the property, which is near the Greenhills East Subdivision and bounded by EDSA to the east, Florida Street to the north, Block 4 of the subdivision and a narrow creek in the west, and Ortigas Avenue in the south, near the Securities and Exchange Commission and La Salle Greenhills.
E. Ganzon fenced off the site in 1997, demolished the structures on it and began excavation work, but the Greenhills East Association opposed the project the following year before the Housing and Land Use Regulatory Board.
In November 1999, a board arbiter dismissed the residents’ opposition. When they also lost an appeal to the Office of the President, the residents took their case to the Court of Appeals, which ruled against them in 2004.
In their ruling, the Supreme Court justices said they had no expertise in judging the facts of the case.
“No matter how hard it tries to learn the technical intricacies of certain highly regulated human activities, the Supreme Court will always be inadequately equipped to identify the facts that matter when resolving issues involving such activities,” Associate Justice Roberto Abad said in his decision.
“Invariably, the Court must respect the factual findings of administrative agencies which have expertise on matters that fall within their jurisdiction. Here, since the [board] has the expertise in applying zonal classifications on specific properties and since petitioner GEA fails to make out a clear case that it has erred, the court must rely on [the board’s] finding.”
The Court said it would “not dwell on the other matters raised concerning environmental requirements respecting light, ventilation, drainage, sewerage, waste disposal, and pollution relating to the project,” adding that “these matters very well fall under the competence of other government agencies.”
The housing and land use board would certainly not approve a building that did not meet all the legal requirements, the Court said.
:banana::banana::banana:
If there is a similar thread please do consider erasing this one and repasting it on the existing thread. thanks.
makatiprime June 25th, 2011, 02:01 PM mga 5 billion project to from 2.5 billion
Shazzam June 27th, 2011, 11:29 AM :gossip: let's not get too excited. still in the negotiation stage. baka maudlot pa, sayang naman.
psicom June 28th, 2011, 10:17 PM palagay ko tuloy na talaga ito... meron na kc movement dun sa site... sa mismong hukay
makatiprime June 29th, 2011, 01:28 AM anong movement??? hangin sa mga puno ng saging???
Shazzam June 29th, 2011, 09:03 AM palagay ko tuloy na talaga ito... meron na kc movement dun sa site... sa mismong hukay
Yun pa yung dati, from EGI.
Mindavao June 30th, 2011, 08:08 AM palagay ko tuloy na talaga ito... meron na kc movement dun sa site... sa mismong hukay
pics pls...
sana tuloy na tuloy na 'to :)
makatiprime June 30th, 2011, 03:53 PM wala pang movement sa site, mga ahas marami sa baba
psicom July 1st, 2011, 07:45 PM meron na movement... marami na nagtatabas ng mga puno at mga damo sa hukay...
SSC Metro Manila July 1st, 2011, 08:09 PM meron na movement... marami na nagtatabas ng mga puno at mga damo sa hukay...
really? nice to hear. :banana:
bledzoe July 3rd, 2011, 09:32 AM picture, picture! :fiddle:
makatiprime July 3rd, 2011, 04:41 PM wala ni isang movement sa site
manila2020 July 4th, 2011, 06:03 AM seriously ba talaga ito? i wonder pano nila sisimulan ulit to.
richard24 July 4th, 2011, 06:23 AM parang wala naman. i'll try to check pag napadaan ulit ako.
nez July 4th, 2011, 10:14 AM meron na movement... marami na nagtatabas ng mga puno at mga damo sa hukay...
baka naman mga informal settlers dun sa hukay yung nakita mong nagtatabas ng mga kahoy para gawing panggatong. at nagtatabas ng mga damo para may pagtamnan ng kamote... :)
chris_nigel July 4th, 2011, 02:06 PM nabuhay na nanaman tong thread na to..
leofriends July 4th, 2011, 03:08 PM :cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers:
makatiprime July 4th, 2011, 04:27 PM di rin totoo na binili ng robison to or jg summit, ang dmci gustong bumili pero nasa 3 billion ang offer nila sa lot, may mga babayaran pa raw na mga investors sa napornadang pera
queetz@home July 4th, 2011, 11:36 PM Why is it that we have threads like the 168 Residences in the Manila section that actually have some ongoing progress, and yet gets archived, hence new ones need to be made, while we have threads about dead projects like this, that somehow gets bumped and revived when there is absolutely NOTHING going on..... :doh:
mambo July 5th, 2011, 08:37 AM yup yup... palawan is the only place in the country na safe sa earthquake dahil walang faultine dun..
pwede na magtayo ng mga skyscrapers doon:banana::banana::banana:
AYS July 5th, 2011, 02:04 PM Below are the photos taken at the site on a cloudy afternoon at around 1:30PM today. Mayroon din akong nasilip na tatlong tao lang pero natutulog sila, kukunan ko sana sila habang natutulog kaya lang baka may sumita sa sidewalk. Kaya Ibig sabihin wala pa talagang activities doon kahit nagtatabas dahil napakasukal pa rin ang hukay, jungle parang sa Jurassic Park.
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6013/5904287971_441efecf62_b.jpg
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6047/5904287939_7fa664e37c_b.jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5119/5904287953_4720ce5885_b.jpg
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6044/5904287955_9bd3c54cf8_b.jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5191/5904287961_165d54f16e_b.jpg
mikel121 July 5th, 2011, 02:13 PM ^more than 10 years na napabayaan! thanks for the picture!
SSC Metro Manila July 5th, 2011, 05:28 PM they should build a zoo there... so why this "10-years-stop"?
lochinvar July 5th, 2011, 11:52 PM "they should build a zoo there."
There are already 3 denizens living in the area as a start. :lol:
dandman July 6th, 2011, 01:36 AM anong movement??? hangin sa mga puno ng saging???
:lol:...napadaan lang at nabasa ko comment ni makatiprime...
Mindavao July 6th, 2011, 03:55 AM mas mabuti pa, gawin na lang nila gaya nito :D
http://www.universoinmobiliario.com/universalrealestate/wp-content/uploads/songjiang_hotel1.gif
Songjiang Hotel, China [proposed]
watcher09 July 6th, 2011, 07:23 AM ^^ Nice concept. If ever ganyan ang design, pag-bumaha sa may EDSA, lubog lahat ang floors including everything in them.
Mindavao July 6th, 2011, 08:14 AM ^^ Nice concept. If ever ganyan ang design, pag-bumaha sa may EDSA, lubog lahat ang floors including everything in them.
yan ang mas maganda Sir... waterworld ang dating, lagyan nalang ng mga sea animals. :lol:
mambo July 6th, 2011, 08:57 AM Below are the photos taken at the site on a cloudy afternoon at around 1:30PM today. Mayroon din akong nasilip na tatlong tao lang pero natutulog sila, kukunan ko sana sila habang natutulog kaya lang baka may sumita sa sidewalk. Kaya Ibig sabihin wala pa talagang activities doon kahit nagtatabas dahil napakasukal pa rin ang hukay, jungle parang sa Jurassic Park.
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6013/5904287971_441efecf62_b.jpg
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6047/5904287939_7fa664e37c_b.jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5119/5904287953_4720ce5885_b.jpg
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6044/5904287955_9bd3c54cf8_b.jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5191/5904287961_165d54f16e_b.jpg
baka may buwaya na dyan:ohno::ohno:
felix*bakat July 7th, 2011, 04:03 AM mas mabuti pa, gawin na lang nila gaya nito
http://www.universoinmobiliario.com/universalrealestate/wp-content/uploads/songjiang_hotel1.gif
Songjiang Hotel, China [proposed]
hahaha! panalo to! :lol: nice humor mindavao you made me laugh :)
maniLaboy_me July 8th, 2011, 04:57 PM mas mabuti pa, gawin na lang nila gaya nito
http://www.universoinmobiliario.com/universalrealestate/wp-content/uploads/songjiang_hotel1.gif
Songjiang Hotel, China [proposed]
^^ this is a pretty good render huh..?:hahaha: sarap tumambling:rofl:
watcher09 July 9th, 2011, 03:45 AM ^^^^ this is a pretty good render huh..?:hahaha: sarap tumambling:rofl:
^^Yes! Pag lumindol, baon lahat. Pag bumaha, lubog lahat. Pag nagkasunog, walang ibang structures na madadamay. Wala ring tsunami o waterspout sa man-made lake nor killer sharks and crocodiles.
Very ideal. Very nice render indeed!
leofriends July 23rd, 2011, 09:52 AM any updates? or any?
Mindavao July 23rd, 2011, 11:40 AM ^^
^^Yes! Pag lumindol, baon lahat. Pag bumaha, lubog lahat. Pag nagkasunog, walang ibang structures na madadamay. Wala ring tsunami o waterspout sa man-made lake nor killer sharks and crocodiles.
Very ideal. Very nice render indeed!
:rofl:
lagyan na lang ng malaking cross! :lol:
psicom July 28th, 2011, 09:43 PM meron na movement.... meron anaconda at butiki
maniLaboy_me July 29th, 2011, 09:32 AM ^^... meron nang nag-evolve na species dun... endemic pa dun lang matatagpuan...
leofriends September 10th, 2011, 06:57 AM can someone close this thread? bec this project is dead.. :(
anakngpasig September 10th, 2011, 08:38 AM pwede kayang gawing world's deepest swimming pool? :lol:
leofriends September 10th, 2011, 08:56 AM ^^ haha.. tama keysa nmn naiwang nakatiwangwang dun papamahayan lng ng mga nakonda...
watcher09 September 11th, 2011, 04:57 AM ^^Cast the "buwayas" and "malalaking isda" in there! Then put a marking that says "Huwag Pamarisan!".
maximizer101 September 11th, 2011, 06:28 AM baka may buwaya na dyan:ohno::ohno:
mukhang meron nga...:ohno:
maximizer101 September 11th, 2011, 06:30 AM ^^Cast the "buwayas" and "malalaking isda" in there! Then put a marking that says "Huwag Pamarisan!".
gawin nlg crocodile farm yan! :lol:
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