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Scraperlover
February 10th, 2010, 06:45 AM
Finally , some reasonable journalism from western media about darfur even though it just gives a small glimpse on the issue. im not sure if this is the right area to post this but i could not find a more suitable place


darfur: Where celebrities love to tread



By Lucy Fleming
BBC News

Celebrities like Mia Farrow and George Clooney may have done more to prolong the suffering of Darfur than resolve the crisis in Sudan's war-torn region, a new book argues.
"The Save Darfur movement with its celebrity supporters came down very clearly on one particular side of the debate," says Rob Crilly, author of Saving Darfur, Everyone's Favourite African War.
"This very simple straight-forward narrative which demanded our intervention was the only view being heard," he told the BBC.
Crilly arrived in East Africa as a foreign correspondent for the London-based Times newspaper in 2004, a year after the insurgency in Darfur began.
His brief was to cover all of the region's brutal conflicts - Somalia, the Democratic Republic of Congo and the end of the civil war in south Sudan.
'Sexy conflict'
"But it became very clear very quickly there was only one conflict that my editors wanted me to cover," he says.
"As soon as I arrived I was getting calls asking me to go to Darfur - there was something very different about Darfur, something that was sexy and people were interested in."

It was a very simple, clear war to understand - of good guys against bad guys.
Rob Crilly
Compared with other conflicts in Africa, Darfur seemed simple: In September 2004, then-US Secretary of State Colin Powell used the word "genocide".
Crilly says the conflict was portrated as "An evil government intent on destroying the rebels and their supporters.
"They'd unleashed this fearsome Arab militia, the Janjaweed on a scorched-earth campaign against villagers who were supporting the rebels, so it was a very simple, clear war to understand - of good guys against bad guys.
"You compare that with Somalia, where there are countless warlords and Islamist militias all fighting against each other, or the Democratic Republic of Congo which has been rumbling on for 10 years and anyone who understands those wars frankly is just boasting."
But the longer he reported on the conflict, the more Crilly understood that there was nothing simple about Darfur and what he was witnessing was a tragic, complicated conflict, rather than a simplistic genocide.
Unsurprisingly, Mia Farrow says she disagrees with Crilly's analysis but does commend the book for providing "a solid journalistic account of his first-hand experiences in Darfur".
Aid boom
The book charts his understanding of the conflict's complexities from his arrival, learning from his resourceful fixer and driver al-Siir the patience to wait for travel permits over sweet glasses of tea, discovering Darfur has some green valleys and orange groves on the bony back of a donkey and learning the legacy of Khartoum's use of proxy armies when he comes face-to-face with Joseph Kony, the notorious Ugandan rebel leader who still terrorises areas of Southern Sudan.

He notes how Darfur changed over seven years - the region's cities now have booming economies on the back of UN and aid money and one can now pick up an iPod in el-Fasher market, but the circling Antonov bombers still bring fear to the countryside.
He meets rape victims and rebel leaders, Arab militia who have joined the rebels and Arab fighters who have lost trade routes, former librarians and oil workers who have have given up their careers to fight for what they see as the survival of their communities.
"The war is no longer a conventional war in the sense we'd understand - that there's one side against another," says Crilly.
"It's banditry, it's insecurity, it's fractures within the Arab tribes - they've turned on each other, there are issues of grazing routes, there are issues of water desertification," he says.
'Pointless'
It is these nuances that have been ignored by the Save Darfur lobbyists, Crilly says, and led to George Clooney's impassioned appeal to the UN Security Council in 2006 for the intervention of peacekeepers to save hundreds of thousands of lives.
"A line where peacekeepers could have intervened between two sides has completely broken down into a system of lawlessness resembling something almost like Somalia where the intervention of peacekeepers is pointless," says Crilly.


Some of the rebel leaders were very much emboldened by the support of this lobby
Rob Crilly
Even many aid workers on the ground and diplomats disagree with the advocacy group's line.
"There were other organisations talking about other types of solutions but they were basically forced into silence because of their complex relationship with Khartoum."
But it is not the publicity that celebrities bring that is the problem, he says, rather their agenda.
"My concern is when they get too involved in proposing solutions and they become too wedded to one way of doing things.
"I think that's a lesson for future coalitions and future advocacy campaigns - we've already starting to see coalitions for Haiti.
"I think [it] is wonderful that people want to have concerts to raise awareness, raise money - but I think they shouldn't get too bogged down in policy prescriptions because they can run into trouble."
He blames the Save Darfur Coalition in part for the failure of the 2006 Darfur peace agreement, which only one of the many rebel factions signed up to.
"Some of the rebel leaders were very much emboldened by the support of this lobby and they still believe that the Save Darfur movement can deliver them much greater benefits."
The rebel groups, for example, want the International Criminal Court to indict Sudan's Omar al-Bashir on genocide charges - something a diplomat quoted in the book says "would be like arresting Martin McGuinness during the Good Friday negotiations" in Northern Ireland.
Too often the rebels are seen as the only player against Khartoum.
A gathering of all the different communities to discuss their grievances - while it may sound boring - would have the best hope of finding a solution, he says.
"If you understand it as a black and white war between rebels and the government then all these other players are left out of the negotiations and you can't really have peace in Darfur."


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8501526.stm

kitayabi
February 10th, 2010, 07:03 AM
Thank you for the article Scraper lover.
Am glad to see that over the past 12 month the reporting on Darfur has become less irational and sensationalist. For years right wing American religious groups have forced the media to report a narrow minded and one sided view of the Darfur conflict. Any reasonable question that is posed to these groups you get ridiculous replies such as "there is no time for questions a Genocide is happening". Celebrities such as Geoerge clooney and Mia farrow have manipulated this conflict for the purposes of popularity and self gratification. Experts on Sudan who have studied the politics of the region for decades are refused a platform at the UN but some actor with no real academic back ground let alone an academic back ground on Sudan is allowed to adress the UN.

badro96
February 10th, 2010, 10:32 AM
Hahahaha... I was just reading that yesterday, and I was thinking of posting it on here. You were quicker mate!

A good article indeed! I hate that creature called Mia Farrow!

kitayabi
February 10th, 2010, 12:48 PM
Hahahaha... I was just reading that yesterday, and I was thinking of posting it on here. You were quicker mate!

A good article indeed! I hate that creature called Mia Farrow!

ya I find her repulsive:bleep:

da Vinci
February 10th, 2010, 06:42 PM
I hate that creature called Mia Farrow!

you shouldn't! what do you expect from someone who is 65, has been in 40+ movies with no oscar, failed personal relations and adoption of 11+ children as if they are her little puppies!

i'm only questioning the people who are listening to her!

da Vinci
February 10th, 2010, 06:43 PM
In 1980, Farrow began seeing film director Woody Allen. Together they adopted Moses "Misha" Farrow (born 1978, adopted 1980) and Dylan "Eliza" Farrow (born c. 1985, now called Malone). In 1987 Mia gave birth to Satchel O'Sullivan Farrow, now known as Ronan Seamus Farrow. During their relationship, Farrow starred in many of Allen's films, and several of their children also made appearances.

Farrow and Allen parted after Farrow discovered a sexual relationship between Allen and her adopted daughter Soon-Yi. During the subsequent custody battle involving Farrow's and Allen's three children, Farrow filed charges that Allen had abused their daughter Dylan, then seven years old. Allen has adamantly denied the charges. A doctor concluded that Dylan "either invented the story under the stress of living in a volatile and unhealthy home or that it was planted in her mind by her mother" because Dylan presented the story inconsistently.[18] The charges were dropped to avoid subjecting the child to a court trial, although a judge called Allen's conduct "grossly inappropriate". Farrow ultimately won custody of the children. During the public fracas, Frank Sinatra allegedly contacted Farrow with an offer to have Allen's legs broken, a courtesy Farrow wrote of in her 1997 autobiography What Falls Away.

da Vinci
February 10th, 2010, 06:44 PM
Farrow has been estranged from Soon-Yi since Soon-Yi's 1997 marriage to Allen. Farrow called the loss a "tragedy" in The Observer and remarked that "she's not coming back." Farrow said of Soon-Yi: "She was on the streets in Korea when she was captured and brought to the state orphanage. And in a way I can see from her perspective — a very limited perspective — that she's improved her situation. For a little orphan kid from Korea ... Perhaps she's not to be blamed." In a widely circulated quote, Soon-Yi dismissed Farrow as "no Mother Teresa".

Farrow later adopted six more children, including Gabriel Wilk Farrow, adopted in 1995 and named after Elliott Wilk, the judge who oversaw Farrow's 1993 legal battle with Allen. Her adopted daughter Tam Farrow died of heart failure in 2000 at the age of 19.[19] On Christmas Day 2008, her adopted daughter Lark Previn died after a long illness. Although no official cause was released, her death was rumored to be AIDS-related.

da Vinci
February 10th, 2010, 06:47 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mia_Farrow

badro96
February 11th, 2010, 01:29 AM
you shouldn't! what do you expect from someone who is 65, has been in 40+ movies with no oscar, failed personal relations and adoption of 11+ children as if they are her little puppies!

i'm only questioning the people who are listening to her!

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Yep... a pretty lonely and sad woman who's looking for a new motivation in life! How disgusting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I just loooooooooooved this article! Honestly, it made my week!!!!!!!!:banana::banana:

P.S. I hear in SUNA and Al Ray Al Am that sell-out Abdel Wahid Mohammed Nour has been replaced by another as the leader of SLM!!!!!

kitayabi
February 11th, 2010, 05:36 AM
P.S. I hear in SUNA and Al Ray Al Am that sell-out Abdel Wahid Mohammed Nour has been replaced by another as the leader of SLM!!!!!

the rebels groups are disintegrating since they can no longer expect to receive funding from Chad.

badro96
February 11th, 2010, 04:16 PM
the rebels groups are disintegrating since they can no longer expect to receive funding from Chad.

I wish if it was only Tchad... This dude Abdel Wahid was once in Tel Aviv calling for Muslim Nations to burry their differences with Isreal (as if they have any differences)... Moreover, he takes Paris as his permanent residence...

What a sell-out!!!!!!!!!!!

kitayabi
February 11th, 2010, 04:24 PM
I wish if it was only Tchad... This dude Abdel Wahid was once in Tel Aviv calling for Muslim Nations to burry their differences with Isreal (as if they have any differences)... Moreover, he takes Paris as his permanent residence...

What a sell-out!!!!!!!!!!!

the man hides in France since he isn't willing to get his hands dirty.

kitayabi
February 11th, 2010, 04:26 PM
:ohno:

kitayabi
February 21st, 2010, 08:07 PM
:)