View Full Version : IZMIR - New Stadium (43,900)


www.sercan.de
February 15th, 2010, 04:59 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/98/Altay_logo.png/150px-Altay_logo.png
Altay SK

2x Cup:
1967, 1980





Project of the TFF for the EURO 2016 bid

http://i49.************/23s8y6d.jpg

http://i49.************/15prd53.jpg

http://i50.************/2u7ov1u.jpg

maraques
February 15th, 2010, 05:03 PM
it's not for all izmir teams i guess.. just for karşıyaka as i know.

www.sercan.de
February 15th, 2010, 05:05 PM
It will be in the Karsiyaka district, but all will play here.

Messi
February 15th, 2010, 05:07 PM
it's by far the ugliest ones among all euro2016 proposals.

maraques
February 15th, 2010, 05:12 PM
It will be in the Karsiyaka district, but all will play here.


it's almost impossible that göztepe and karşıyaka can play in the same stadium. :lol:

but for altay, that can be possible.

www.sercan.de
February 15th, 2010, 05:15 PM
Its possible
Just look at the current situation

ghost rider
February 15th, 2010, 05:38 PM
I hope this stadium will never be done!
It must change 180 degrees...

Genç
February 15th, 2010, 06:25 PM
I don't think it's too bad...it has a very imposing style, but i'm not impressed with the single tier at the goal ends.

Kuvvaci
February 15th, 2010, 08:10 PM
it is not suitable for EURO... It is ugly and not modern..

www.sercan.de
February 15th, 2010, 08:11 PM
it is not suitable for EURO.....

Lol why? :)

Kuvvaci
February 15th, 2010, 08:19 PM
because old fashion :D

www.sercan.de
February 15th, 2010, 08:20 PM
you can easly add a cladding like at cape town

Kuvvaci
February 15th, 2010, 09:21 PM
i hope so... so, sercan say, how did you find this project?

www.sercan.de
February 15th, 2010, 09:36 PM
IMO its a great project
nce stands
a lot of suites and this will be the stadium of Karsiyaka SK
I am so sure that they will built a new one at Atatürk Stadium in 15-25 years.
Turkey will bid for the WC 2030+ so Izmir will be a semi final city
So the cap. has to be 65,000+

Kuvvaci
February 16th, 2010, 12:30 PM
I hope you are right...

bigbossman
February 16th, 2010, 12:56 PM
3 teams sharing one stadium, overkill no? who will actually own it?

www.sercan.de
February 16th, 2010, 12:58 PM
The turkish state

www.sercan.de
February 16th, 2010, 02:55 PM
The New İzmir Stadium, a modern amphitheatre also known as “Ege’nin Gözbebeği” (the apple of the Aegean eye) will be located on a hill north of İzmir Bay, creating a landmark similar to a lighthouse on the Aegean coastline. The architecture of the stadium is inspired by historical influences of Hellenic and Roman architecture, which have dominated this part of Turkey for millennia.

The recessed glazed façade and the base construction of this 40,000+ seat stadium are derived from the appearance of ancient Roman coliseums while the upper tier is a modern interpretation of a Hellenic amphitheatre. This tier is in the form of a horseshoe and is open towards the South, which offers our visitors inside the stadium a spectacular view over the bay to the city centre.

The New İzmir Stadium is conceived as an amenity that brings the surrounding area to life 24 hours a
day, attracting people to the stadium’s entertainment facilities as well as its restaurants, cafes and bistros, offices and banquet hall.

The newly projected tramline and motorway connections as well as ferries and several bus lines will provide excellent connectivity to the city centre.
http://www.euro2016adayiturkiye.com/index.php?mid=126

aachen
February 16th, 2010, 02:57 PM
IMO very nice stadium. Why always the same?? this is a new style and very nice.

Kuvvaci
February 17th, 2010, 10:28 AM
Actually reminds me of that one in S.Africa
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4038/4329223776_1dde049066_b.jpg

http://i49.************/23s8y6d.jpg

www.sercan.de
February 17th, 2010, 10:53 AM
just without a cladding

Genç
February 18th, 2010, 12:20 AM
Better without the cladding...otherwise it would just look old-fashioned. In this way it's SO old-fashioned it's actually cool - retro :D

eagle in sky
February 18th, 2010, 12:22 AM
it's best project of Turkey 2016 according to me.Its inner design resemble Dragao.

makkillottu
February 18th, 2010, 01:00 AM
it's by far the ugliest ones among all euro2016 proposals.

^^ totally agree, tho

serdariko
February 18th, 2010, 01:14 AM
Its realy ugly stadium. All this in Euro 2016 projects Izmir new stadium and Istanbul olympiad will build for certain.Unfortunately we will have this ugly stadium :(

www.sercan.de
February 18th, 2010, 11:27 AM
net cap is 41,540

Jim856796
February 18th, 2010, 01:48 PM
Why Izmir build new stadium? The architects don't even know the Izmir Ataturk stadium already exist. Also, the design of the new stadium is outdated, its exterior look like old American coockie cutter stadiums. It make bad replacement for Ataturk Stadium. So cancel this project and make upgrades and add roof to existing stadiujm.

www.sercan.de
February 18th, 2010, 01:54 PM
Old stadium will stay
Karsiyaka district needs new stadium.

Design:
The architecture of the stadium is inspired by historical influences of Hellenic and Roman architecture, which have dominated this part of Turkey for millennia.

The recessed glazed façade and the base construction of this 40,000+ seat stadium are derived from the appearance of ancient Roman coliseums while the upper tier is a modern interpretation of a Hellenic amphitheatre. This tier is in the form of a horseshoe and is open towards the South, which offers our visitors inside the stadium a spectacular view over the bay to the city centre.

gavstar00
February 18th, 2010, 02:05 PM
Reminds me of the Azteca from the exterior

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/4316/aztecastadiumtc4.jpg

KONSTANTINOUPOLIS
February 18th, 2010, 07:14 PM
Judging from those renders i thing they need to do something similar with that S.African stadion couple posts ago. The naked pilars doesnt look good. In Panathinaikos new stadion you can find also empty spaces (the external parts behind the goalposts) but as far i know in those parts will expand the capacity so those parts will covered too. Later i will post the render in the Panathinaikos thread.

Anyway, i thing with a simply cover on the external part, the stadion will look very good.

fidalgo
April 8th, 2010, 04:40 PM
It's a modern look of an old type of structure
Very simple, very elegant

1772
April 8th, 2010, 05:17 PM
http://i49.************/2djq693.png
Altay SK

2x Cup Winner:
1967, 1980


How can the Izmir club be from 1912?
1912 the city was called Smyrna and was greek.

SheLL
April 8th, 2010, 06:14 PM
How can the Izmir club be from 1912?
1912 the city was called Smyrna and was greek.

wrong informations.
First, City was called Smyrna in english and in greek yes, but it was called Izmir in ladino and İzmir in turkish. After 1930, it was started to call izmir in english as well.

Secondly, after a terrific loss in world war I for Ottoman empire side, western world (or the winners ) offered the western regions of turkey to greece. Thus, greek army occupied izmir in 1919 (not before) and tried to expand their regions towards central anatolia and their occupation lasted till 1922 and turkish army got the regions back. So, rethink what you have said in your post.

Anyway, any information on when the construction will start ?

Kuvvaci
April 8th, 2010, 06:50 PM
How can the Izmir club be from 1912?
1912 the city was called Smyrna and was greek.

it was always Turkey since 1310, Greece has just occupied the city between 15 th of May 1919 , 9th of September 1922.

1772
April 9th, 2010, 08:35 AM
wrong informations.
First, City was called Smyrna in english and in greek yes, but it was called Izmir in ladino and İzmir in turkish. After 1930, it was started to call izmir in english as well.

Secondly, after a terrific loss in world war I for Ottoman empire side, western world (or the winners ) offered the western regions of turkey to greece. Thus, greek army occupied izmir in 1919 (not before) and tried to expand their regions towards central anatolia and their occupation lasted till 1922 and turkish army got the regions back. So, rethink what you have said in your post.

Anyway, any information on when the construction will start ?

I will not rethink anything. The city had a greek population (even if it was under turkish governing).
So it still dosen't make sense that the club is called Izmir.

I assume the greeks didn't call it Izmir?

iozcan
April 9th, 2010, 09:33 AM
I will not rethink anything. The city had a greek population (even if it was under turkish governing).
So it still dosen't make sense that the club is called Izmir.

I assume the greeks didn't call it Izmir?


sweety, greeks didn't but we do....so go and fys....

www.sercan.de
April 9th, 2010, 10:57 AM
Yes. The greek clubs from Izmir aka Smyrna were called Smyrna like
Orfeas Smyrna, Apollon Smyrna or Smyrna FC

While the Turkish clubs were called,
Karşıyaka SK, Altay SK, İzmir İdman Yurdu SK,

Luckysmile
April 10th, 2010, 03:47 AM
I will not rethink anything. The city had a greek population (even if it was under turkish governing).
So it still dosen't make sense that the club is called Izmir.

I assume the greeks didn't call it Izmir?

you dont hav to rethink, just start to think. its easy!
youre right with HAD, its past!
population of a country doesn't exist of one single nationality, it's practically impossible!
they can call it how they want or used to. the same with every other nation!

How can the Izmir club be from 1912?
1912 the city was called Smyrna and was greek.

look at the izmir crest, 1914 and not 1912. and if you insist: this city had a double name in that time: Smyrna/Izmir. take a look at the FIRST crest of altay:

http://www.brandsoftheworld.com/brands/0022/7401/brand.gif

but NOW its izmir. or what is on the crest of 1.fc cologne? colonia or köln?
so many cities (espacially in europe) had different (similar) names. and some greek/turkish (sport-) teams have been founded in the other country.

turks/greeks have so so much in common, but unfortunately politicians are destroying history by interpreting it subjectively "right/wrong"... i wish, greece/turkey could have done an "agean-bid", but as i mentioned: POLITICS :(

Sjoerd
April 12th, 2010, 09:32 PM
lame ass shizzl

masterchivas
February 28th, 2011, 03:07 AM
Reminds me of the Azteca from the exterior

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/4316/aztecastadiumtc4.jpg



Yeah!!:) ... euh NO:bash:

skaP187
March 1st, 2011, 08:37 PM
The second tier looks like a horse shoe (for luck?) is that correct? I Like the stadium, it atleast looks original.

www.sercan.de
March 2nd, 2011, 01:48 PM
Actually to have a view over the city and the Gulf of Izmir / sea.

Kuvvaci
March 5th, 2011, 11:46 AM
I don't understand this opsession for Gulf of Izmir. What is important there? It is not Bosphorus or an incredible natural view. Also for a sport building, seeing the field should be imporant. Why to see another view? Concentration to the filed is imporant. do they want to build a hotel or restaurant or a stadium?

masterchivas
March 8th, 2011, 02:27 AM
^^^^^^

totally agree, the city landscape,exterior view is not important at all from inside the stadium, i'd even say that it's better not to be able to see outside... when you go to a stadium wanna se ur favorite sport and entertain yourself, get in the sport mood and feel the energy of the crowd towards a good play etc. you don't want to raise ur eyes, see the building you work in and remember that you have to get that report done for monday or whatever,...

stadiums are made to forget your problems, live your sport passion, surrounded by a huge crowd cheering all around you, that way you can really enjoy the match, competition, race etc... with ur friends or family :banana::cheers:

cheerzz

sweet-d
March 8th, 2011, 05:59 AM
this stadium doesn't look very good I guess it's one of those that's built for one purpose to watch futbol.

sadiytoker
April 30th, 2011, 05:02 PM
the horse shoe issue, you are right, just like in berlin olimpic.
architects do such things to be original it is okey for an olimpic stadium
having a special place for ceremonies, but for football stadiums,
i think they dont understand how much they give harm to the inner athmosphere by damaging the continuity of stands, so the fans.
i believe the best internal design for a football stadium is the most monotonous one.
the only thing to do must be gathering the people as much as you can without dividing them into parts and making them closer to the pitch as much as you can ......

Joya
May 3rd, 2011, 11:53 AM
I wish it's not built this way, a new project please.

player_1
October 1st, 2012, 08:36 AM
Any news about this stadium?

www.sercan.de
February 11th, 2013, 10:48 AM
Actually Izmir has got 3 big clubs (Karsiyaka SK - 1912, Altay SK - 1914 and Göztepe SK - 1925). But for years no club is at the Süper Lig.I think money is the biggest problem and maybe 3 clubs are a lil bit too much for the city.

endrity
February 13th, 2013, 10:22 AM
Actually Izmir has got 3 big clubs (Karsiyaka SK - 1912, Altay SK - 1914 and Göztepe SK - 1925). But for years no club is at the Süper Lig.I think money is the biggest problem and maybe 3 clubs are a lil bit too much for the city.

Makes sense, even Istanbul with 3 big teams and another smaller one is probably streching its power a bit too much. One huge Izmir club could be a real threat in Turkey.

Anyway, love the Bursa stadium.

skaP187
February 13th, 2013, 05:00 PM
Makes sense, even Istanbul with 3 big teams and another smaller one is probably streching its power a bit too much. One huge Izmir club could be a real threat in Turkey.

Anyway, love the Bursa stadium.

How can 3 clubs stretch a city with 15 000 000 inhabitants?

UltrAslanErkan
February 13th, 2013, 05:48 PM
Makes sense, even Istanbul with 3 big teams and another smaller one is probably streching its power a bit too much. One huge Izmir club could be a real threat in Turkey.

Anyway, love the Bursa stadium.

3 "Big" Teams + 2 "small" Clubs from Istanbul are playing in the STSL (first turkish football league).
And no it is nothing special, just look at London.
IMO the big Teams in Istanbul could easily fill larger Stadiums (I had a discussion wirth Sercan about it)


There is a big rivalry betwwen those Clubs in Izmir. They would never merge together. Especially Göztepe and Karsiyaka hate each other. Both temas have a huge supporter group.

endrity
February 15th, 2013, 01:05 AM
How can 3 clubs stretch a city with 15 000 000 inhabitants?

3 "Big" Teams + 2 "small" Clubs from Istanbul are playing in the STSL (first turkish football league).
And no it is nothing special, just look at London.
IMO the big Teams in Istanbul could easily fill larger Stadiums (I had a discussion wirth Sercan about it)


There is a big rivalry betwwen those Clubs in Izmir. They would never merge together. Especially Göztepe and Karsiyaka hate each other. Both temas have a huge supporter group.

Well it might make sense in Turkey. But those 10-15 millions are not as rich as Londoners. In a European sense, Istanbul might host a true superpower if they had fewer teams. Same for Moscow really.

Anyway, I was just a bit surprised that with all the new construction going on or being planned, the second biggest city is nowhere to be seen. I hope one of the Izmir teams can manage to really grow into a more powerful team.

www.sercan.de
February 15th, 2013, 11:38 AM
Actually there are plans for 2 new stadiums in Izmir.

The project at the first page has been canceled. But at the same location this one is planned
Capacity is 25,900
http://i52.************/2jebu34.jpg

http://i55.************/96w604.jpg

+ a new one for 40,000.


But the clubs fear that there could be problems. So the presidents prefer a smaller version.

Karsiyaka SK proposed this version (12,500)
http://img2.blogcu.com/images/k/s/k/kskliler/ksk_stad.jpg

http://www.izmirgucu.com.tr/hb_resim/Karsiyaka/ichaber/16083.jpg

http://www.ksk.org.tr/tr/image_resize.php?image=../haberfoto/KSK_STADI2_1.jpg&w=600&h=400



And a new small one (12,500) for the clubs in the south.

Of course like Karsiyaka the archrival Göztepe would also prefer a new stadium at their district
http://oi49.************/fctxy0.jpg



But those small stadiums are just ideas of the club. The turkish state plans to built the 25,900 in the north and some years later a new 40,000 one.

MAP
http://s14.directupload.net/images/130215/xdhvkijp.jpg

Buca SK has got its own stadium
8,810
http://www.kopane.de/wp-content/2012/03/DSCF6802.jpg

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/181746_499944472679_3544266_n.jpg

All other clubs play at the Altay Alsancak Stadi
15,358
http://www.mimdap.org/wp-content/uploads/stat8.jpg


And some big matches are at the Izmir Atatürk Stadi
51,295
http://fotocdncube.fanatik.com.tr/news/658x370/2012/8/14/fft104mm1866058.jpg

skaP187
February 15th, 2013, 03:21 PM
Well it might make sense in Turkey. But those 10-15 millions are not as rich as Londoners. In a European sense, Istanbul might host a true superpower if they had fewer teams. Same for Moscow really. .

Not as rich, but they can fill the stadius though. Galatasaray and Fenerbace allready have got big stadium, only Besiktas is on the small side, but I can´t remember seeing one of these stadiums empty. No problem in Istanbul mop.

Anyway, I was just a bit surprised that with all the new construction going on or being planned, the second biggest city is nowhere to be seen. I hope one of the Izmir teams can manage to really grow into a more powerful team.

Izmir is a strange gab on the football map it is.