A banda americana de metalcore/experimental Horse The Band estará em turnê pela Africa, do fim de Março a meados de Abril.

Dois shows foram marcados em Moçambique, dia 5 de Abril em lugar ainda não definido e 6 no Gil Antônio em Maputo.

http://www.myspace.com/horsetheband

Nice,... but who cares about an "A-merican" trash band touring Africa?^^

^^I care. This is very unsual (except for SA)

it's good...but rock in África???c'mon lost...Alicia keys teve ai no Brasil aposto que foi show de bola...hein...:D:colgate: fala ai pra gente....

Lost Cosmonaut,

What do you think? Africans live on trees and dance to jamba music...waiting for "enlightened A-merica" to bring us to modernity?

There are various rock and even heavy metal bands in Angola, Namibia...have a look at South Africa, also various rock bands over there...We don´t need that "A-merican" rock trash music anymore.:ohno::)

Matthias what is your problem?????

Variety is always good for everyone!

Matthias what is your problem?????

Variety is always good for everyone!

I simply refrain from kissing "A-merica´s" ass and licking their balls, figuratively speaking!! That´s my "problem". I know a lot about that country that I don´t and CANNOT expand in the context of this forum...i know that there are good Americans , too, but as a whole I am not fond of that place and I cannot understand why everybody falls on their knees and praises them as if they were some sort of divine being.

And I am for variety...I just said that Africa already has rock bands, there is no use celebrating the arrival of an "A-merican" one...ridiculous.:nuts:That´s it.:)

Existem milhares de bandas de metal no Brasil. Então isso significa que não adoramos ver o Metallica ou Iron Maiden por aqui? (só para citar as clássicas).

"Temos um monte de bandas por aqui, quem precisa de um showzinho do Metallica? afinal tem o Satan´s Whore de Maputo que é bem melhor"

Que mentalidade tacanha! Com este tipo de arrogância a África não vai a lugar algum.

Sério mesmo, Matthias, você é retardado!

Look, in France there are strict quotas to preserve being “French” ...even for songs and bands and they substitute every little American word by using a French term (even for such global terms like “Walkman”, “computer” or “MP3-player”.....are they “retarded” as you say? .German language has become infested by American slang and terms resistance is rising and people don´t want to swallow it...I am so happy to hear more and more German music on the radio.

in Europe European firlm are getting more and more famous because people can no longer identify with American movies in the same blind fashion than they used to do. European culture and way of life is very different to that in the USA.

I am simply sick and tired of US "culture" which has infested the world....

American gangster rap where poor people in Africa or elsewhere dream about riding in flashy cars with topless girls in the backseats, yelling "You, sexy motherfucker!".:ohno: This has to stop! Why should the world continue to bow down?
I am a bit disappointed about Brazil, people seem to adore America and copy their lifetsyle ...Recife is Recife and not Miami Beach...Just be proud of what you have, your beautiful “Brazilianess”: it is very nice and stop adoring US people and their culture by substituting what makes up Brazil...terrible, for me.

In Asia people are less in love with America, just like Indians who have their own movie and China which is growing up and will enforce their own cultural norms.

I am sure if that band came from Canada, Australia or Alaska, you wouldn´t have opened a special thread for it...but just because it is from “glorious” US-of A , we have to bow down and be infinitely grateful to them that they come to Africa or elsewhere, right?

Please, don´t be offended but it just makes me sick...America here, America there and America everywhere...if a US president poos, the world has to give a thousand talkshows on that shit. Nerve-wreaking and mind-deafening!! How easily people can be influenced by a few psychological tricks without even knowing that they fall victim of manipulation, that is truly shocking.

Look, in France there are strict quotas to preserve being “French” ...even for songs and bands and they substitute every little American word by using a French term (even for such global terms like “Walkman”, “computer” or “MP3-player”.....are they “retarded” as you say? .German language has become infested by American slang and terms resistance is rising and people don´t want to swallow it...I am so happy to hear more and more German music on the radio.

in Europe European firlm are getting more and more famous because people can no longer identify with American movies in the same blind fashion than they used to do. European culture and way of life is very different to that in the USA.

I am simply sick and tired of US "culture" which has infested the world....

American gangster rap where poor people in Africa or elsewhere dream about riding in flashy cars with topless girls in the backseats, yelling "You, sexy motherfucker!".:ohno: This has to stop! Why should the world continue to bow down?
I am a bit disappointed about Brazil, people seem to adore America and copy their lifetsyle ...Recife is Recife and not Miami Beach...Just be proud of what you have, your beautiful “Brazilianess”: it is very nice and stop adoring US people and their culture by substituting what makes up Brazil...terrible, for me.

In Asia people are less in love with America, just like Indians who have their own movie and China which is growing up and will enforce their own cultural norms.

I am sure if that band came from Canada, Australia or Alaska, you wouldn´t have opened a special thread for it...but just because it is from “glorious” US-of A , we have to bow down and be infinitely grateful to them that they come to Africa or elsewhere, right?

Please, don´t be offended but it just makes me sick...America here, America there and America everywhere...if a US president poos, the world has to give a thousand talkshows on that shit. Nerve-wreaking and mind-deafening!! How easily people can be influenced by a few psychological tricks without even knowing that they fall victim of manipulation, that is truly shocking.


What is going on with you, Matt? Why are u f*cking hating on Americans?:ohno: Of course, there are some Americans possessed by arrogance, but others are very cool! However, don't mess with anybody though because they will beat the shit out of u.:lol: If the french feel the need to change names such as computer, MP3-palyer, etc, it then shows that they have not been as creative lately.:lol: Aside from Eiffel Tower, what else is cool from France? The food maybe! I am not in love with France at all. They meddle too much into African political affairs and even dare to house individuals inherently destabilizing to many countries. Germany and Netherlands :cheers:

Que mentalidade tacanha! Com este tipo de arrogância a África não vai a lugar algum.



Arrogancia e ma seja la de quem origina. Os paises desenvolvidos tambem tem sido muito arrogantes. Fiquei furioso quando eles decidiram(em Franca por curiosidade) meter Angola na mesma lista de paises como Irao, Corea do Norte, e outros por ai como paises que representam um "perigo" ao sistema financeiro do ocidente. Que arrogancia? Em 2009 a crise financeira deveu-se a practicas bastante arriscadas de agentes participantes nestes sistemas e nao de paises como o nosso. Sao as practicas destes mesmo agentes que representam o verdadeiro perigo nao so para o sistema americano ou europeu, mas tambem para o sistema global.

Com este tipo de arrogância a África não vai a lugar algum.? Nao, quem deve determinar o lugar aonde os africanos devem ir sao os africanos. Claro, que devemos viver em sa harmonia neste mundo cada vez mais globalizado e interdependente, mas aonde devemos ir e algo que deve estar sobre controlo de qualquer povo e se ainda nao esta que resgatemos.:) Ate certo ponto concordo com o Matt porque estas bandas devem ser um processo de trocas mutuas. Nao podem ser apenas bandas americanas irem em Africa, mas tambem as Africanas irem na America, etc. It has to be a two-way process.

Arrogancia e ma seja de quem origina. Os paises desenvolvidos tambem tem sido muito arrogantes. Fiquei furioso quando eles decidiram(em Franca por curiosidade) meter Angola na mesma lista de paises como Irao, Corea do Norte, e outros por ai como paises que representam um "perigo" ao sistema financeiro do ocidente. Que arrogancia? Em 2009 a crise financeira deveu-se a practicas bastante arriscadas de agentes participantes nestes sistemas e nao de paises como o nosso.

Com este tipo de arrogância a África não vai a lugar algum.? Nao, quem deve determinar o lugar aonde os africanos devem ir sao os africanos. Claro, que devemos viver em sa harmonia neste mundo cada vez mais globalizado e interdependente, mas aonde devemos ir e algo que deve estar sobre controlo de qualquer povo e se ainda nao esta que resgatemos.:)

O que???????esses Filhos da P**** puseram Angola como ameaça para o sistema financeiro deles?????Filhos dumas gandas P**** sim são sim senhora...então só eles é que podem evoluir e nós não??????porra cada dia odeio mas esses gajos meu...é incrível são pessoas como essas que metem nojo e são pessoas como essas que tem coragem de fazer o que administração do bush fez...matar cerca de 3.000 pessoas só para ter pretexto para entrar no Afeganistão e Iraque...e os burros otarios da Nato estão ajudar a fazer as vontades deles...o resto do mundo beija o rabo dos EUA...tamos lixados...é de mais...mas pk k eles acham que Angola pode ser um perigo para o sistema financeiro do ocidente????épa eu vou ser sincero essa noticia alegrou-me...eu não sabia que esses gajos temiam tanto esses paises....ZEDU DA MAIS KARGA...NÃO PARA gostei zedu gostei...mas por favor kizaca podes explicar-me isso???pk não pesco nada de economia...:) KARGA :colgate:

Existem milhares de bandas de metal no Brasil. Então isso significa que não adoramos ver o Metallica ou Iron Maiden por aqui? (só para citar as clássicas).

"Temos um monte de bandas por aqui, quem precisa de um showzinho do Metallica? afinal tem o Satan´s Whore de Maputo que é bem melhor"

Que mentalidade tacanha! Com este tipo de arrogância a África não vai a lugar algum.

Sério mesmo, Matthias, você é retardado!

olha lá oh lost...voce é mesmo otario...só pk o matt não gosta de heavy metal ou algo do género não significa que o resto dos africanos não goste...isso é palhaçada...ASSIM OS NEGROS OU AFRICANOS TEMOS UMA MENTALIDADE TACANHA SÓ PK ELE FEZ UM COMENTÁRIO QUE NÃO GOSTA DE "METAL"... deixa de ser ignorante pk da forma que falas e estas a agir é como se fosses um norte-americano daqueles burros otários...pareces que não sabes que a história do Brasil passou por África...são pessoas como tu que mandam o Brasil abaixo...por favor irmão não pensa mais assim, a maioria dos cantores Brasileiros que vão para Angola 75% canta musica de Branco e na mesma os espectáculos deles estão sempre lotados, por favor não pensa ou faz mais comentários desse tipo eu sei que o Brasil é muito grande e sei que voce é grande o suficiente de distinguir o que é África e moçambique ...ah e só para ficar aqui uma nota...a minha prima disse-me que em Angola HÁ VARIOS...GOTICOS, deve ser nojento...nós ja somos negros + goticos???oh hell no :ohno::ohno: em outra palavras isso quer dizer que muita gente em Angola gosta de "METAL"..

Arrogancia e ma seja la de quem origina. Os paises desenvolvidos tambem tem sido muito arrogantes. Fiquei furioso quando eles decidiram(em Franca por curiosidade) meter Angola na mesma lista de paises como Irao, Corea do Norte, e outros por ai como paises que representam um "perigo" ao sistema financeiro do ocidente. Que arrogancia? Em 2009 a crise financeira deveu-se a practicas bastante arriscadas de agentes participantes nestes sistemas e nao de paises como o nosso. Sao as practicas destes mesmo agentes que representam o verdadeiro perigo nao so para o sistema americano ou europeu, mas tambem para o sistema global.

Com este tipo de arrogância a África não vai a lugar algum.? Nao, quem deve determinar o lugar aonde os africanos devem ir sao os africanos. Claro, que devemos viver em sa harmonia neste mundo cada vez mais globalizado e interdependente, mas aonde devemos ir e algo que deve estar sobre controlo de qualquer povo e se ainda nao esta que resgatemos.:) Ate certo ponto concordo com o Matt porque estas bandas devem ser um processo de trocas mutuas. Nao podem ser apenas bandas americanas irem em Africa, mas tambem as Africanas irem na America, etc. It has to be a two-way process.

Dezenas ou centenas de músicos africanos fazem turnês mundo afora e são muito bem recebidos. Agora, quando algum artista de fora vem a áfrica ( Tirando a SA) são recebidos desta maneira, com um mentalidade rídicula. Então é simples, se isolem do mundo civilizado. Mas os rockeiros de Maputo não tão nem ai para vocês, vão ao show e se divertiram a beça.

olha lá oh lost...voce é mesmo otario...só pk o matt não gosta de heavy metal ou algo do género não significa que o resto dos africanos não goste...isso é palhaçada...ASSIM OS NEGROS OU AFRICANOS TEMOS UMA MENTALIDADE TACANHA SÓ PK ELE FEZ UM COMENTÁRIO QUE NÃO GOSTA DE "METAL"... deixa de ser ignorante pk da forma que falas e estas a agir é como se fosses um norte-americano daqueles burros otários...pareces que não sabes que a história do Brasil passou por África...são pessoas como tu que mandam o Brasil abaixo...por favor irmão não pensa mais assim, a maioria dos cantores Brasileiros que vão para Angola 75% canta musica de Branco e na mesma os espectáculos deles estão sempre lotados, por favor não pensa ou faz mais comentários desse tipo eu sei que o Brasil é muito grande e sei que voce é grande o suficiente de distinguir o que é África e moçambique ...ah e só para ficar aqui uma nota...a minha prima disse-me que em Angola HÁ VARIOS...GOTICOS, deve ser nojento...nós ja somos negros + goticos???oh hell no :ohno::ohno: em outra palavras isso quer dizer que muita gente em Angola gosta de "METAL"..

Você é um idiota analfabeto. Não foi o homem branco que destruiu a África, vocês mesmos conseguiram esta façanha. Vá chorar em outro lugar.

O que???????esses Filhos da P**** puseram Angola como ameaça para o sistema financeiro deles?????Filhos dumas gandas P**** sim são sim senhora...então só eles é que podem evoluir e nós não??????porra cada dia odeio mas esses gajos meu...é incrível são pessoas como essas que metem nojo e são pessoas como essas que tem coragem de fazer o que administração do bush fez...matar cerca de 3.000 pessoas só para ter pretexto para entrar no Afeganistão e Iraque...e os burros otarios da Nato estão ajudar a fazer as vontades deles...o resto do mundo beija o rabo dos EUA...tamos lixados...é de mais...mas pk k eles acham que Angola pode ser um perigo para o sistema financeiro do ocidente????épa eu vou ser sincero essa noticia alegrou-me...eu não sabia que esses gajos temiam tanto esses paises....ZEDU DA MAIS KARGA...NÃO PARA gostei zedu gostei...mas por favor kizaca podes explicar-me isso???pk não pesco nada de economia...:) KARGA :colgate:


Calma companheiro, nao ofenda :lol: Isto e equivalente a uma "lista negra" tal como a que a TAAG sofreu. O orgao que decidiu incluir o nosso Pais e um orgao Intergovernamental(varios paises membros) e tem como o objectivo "combater" oque eles chamam de "money laundering and terrorism financing".
A consequencia esta na relacao financeira entre Angola e os outros paises(europeu). O teu dinheiro que te enviam da mesada pode ser congelado:lol: Ou se quizeres comprar uma cena podes pagar muito mais. Se quizeres emprestimos pagas juros altos coisas assim.... Nao ofenda entao socio... controla-te. :lol:

Dezenas ou centenas de músicos africanos fazem turnês mundo afora e são muito bem recebidos. Agora, quando algum artista de fora vem a áfrica ( Tirando a SA) são recebidos desta maneira, com um mentalidade rídicula. Então é simples, se isolem do mundo civilizado. Mas os rockeiros de Maputo não tão nem ai para vocês, vão ao show e se divertiram a beça.

+ pk que estas a dizer isso???ja ouviste alguma reclamação de que algum artista foi recebido mal em África????pelo contrario...até presidentes ou as mulheres vão ter com eles...não digas mas uma cenas dessas...pelo menos os Brasileiros não se podem queixar pk em Angola a 1º dama foi ter com uns actores da Globo NO AEROPORTO... não fala o que não sabe cara, ta legau???

Então é simples, se isolem do mundo civilizado. .

Ja estas a falar lixo e disperdicar o nosso tempo.:bash:

Você é um idiota analfabeto. Não foi o homem branco que destruiu a África, vocês mesmos conseguiram esta façanha. Vá chorar em outro lugar.

Rapaz não vas por ai...não estamos a falar de destruição mas sim duma opinião...o que tem haver o homem branco, com o facto de uma banda the heavy metal ir a moçambique???pk k as pessoas dos países mais desenvolvidos ou dos que estão mais encaminhados gostam sempre de mandar abaixo os outros???pk k vocês tem esse génio ruim??maldoso???o facto dele não gostar de heavy metal não inclui que o resto não goste mas aproveitaste aquela oportunidade para rebaixar os Africanos...deixa-te disso...olha que o Brasil está cheia deles...e uma coisa os negros no Brasil não são AFRO-BRASILEIROS MAS SIM BRASILEIROS...

Calma companheiro, nao ofenda :lol: Isto e equivalente a uma "lista negra" tal como a que a TAAG sofreu. O orgao que decidiu incluir o nosso Pais e um orgao Intergovernamental(varios paises membros) e tem como o objectivo "combater" oque eles chamam de "money laundering and terrorism financing".
A consequencia esta na relacao financeira entre Angola e os outros paises(europeu). O teu dinheiro que te enviam da mesada pode ser congelado:lol: Ou se quizeres comprar uma cena podes pagar muito mais. Se quizeres emprestimos pagas juros altos coisas assim.... Nao ofenda entao socio... controla-te. :lol:

+ o pk que eles estão a fazer isso???esses gajos tem a mania de super poderosos...isso da-me uma vontade de destruir-lhes...mandar abaixo...tudo...fogo assim como ainda têm a coragem de dizer que são nossos amigos e que querem nos ajudar???eles querem é nos ferrar...mas não faz mal nós vamos continuar a crescer...muito muito mais...tal e qual como a China espero que nesses 10 anos seje os anos de afirmação e definição...cinco para cada...esses macacos..têm de nós sentir...

+ o pk que eles estão a fazer isso???esses gajos tem a mania de super poderosos...isso da-me uma vontade de destruir-lhes...mandar abaixo...tudo...fogo assim como ainda têm a coragem de dizer que são nossos amigos e que querem nos ajudar???eles querem é nos ferrar...mas não faz mal nós vamos continuar a crescer...muito muito mais...tal e qual como a China espero que nesses 10 anos seje os anos de afirmação e definição...cinco para cada...esses macacos..têm de nós sentir...

Como e entao? Calma wi!:)

Dezenas ou centenas de músicos africanos fazem turnês mundo afora e são muito bem recebidos. Agora, quando algum artista de fora vem a áfrica ( Tirando a SA) são recebidos desta maneira, com um mentalidade rídicula. Então é simples, se isolem do mundo civilizado. Mas os rockeiros de Maputo não tão nem ai para vocês, vão ao show e se divertiram a beça.

oh Lost o que te faz pensar que o mundo em que vivemos é civilizado???tirar vida dos outros é civilização???tudo que as pessoas de hoje em dia fazem tem um único e simples propósito...MONEY...ou então REAIS, chamas isso de civilização??homens que se auto-identificam como senhores do mundo maltratam o ambiente, ambiente que nunca nós pediu nada em troca e na mesma é massacrado...chamas de civilização as doenças que são feitas em laboratório para matar outros humanos???chamas de civilização o que o bush fez ao seu próprio povo...matando 3.000 pessoas para poder entrar no Afeganistão e Iraque para roubar o petróleo e matando dezenas de milhares de pessoas???se isso é civilização...então rapaz fica la com a tua civilização que eu fico no meu rico mato chamado África onde eu tenho TUDO.

Como e entao? Calma wi!:)

boy eu tou a falar isso pk eles metem raiva...mas explica-me só o pk k eles puseram Angola nessa lista???só isso que quero que me expliques...

boy eu tou a falar isso pk eles metem raiva...mas explica-me só o pk k eles puseram Angola nessa lista???só isso que quero que me expliques...

Eu nao sei quais os criterios para ter o privilegio de fazer parte desta lista. Eles dizem que e para combater "money laundering and financing terrorism". O Equador tambem esta nesta lista e estao bwe lixados. :lol: Os criterios disso sao um pouco escuros e nao se sabe oque realmente motivou. Mas epa deixa de chamar nomes porque e contraproductivo...:)

Eu nao sei quais os criterios para ter o privilegio de fazer parte desta lista. Eles dizem que e para combater "money laundering and financing terrorism". O Equador tambem esta nesta lista e estao bwe lixados. :lol: Os criterios disso sao um pouco escuros e nao se sabe oque realmente motivou. Mas epa deixa de chamar nomes porque e contraproductivo...:)

Eles tem raiva do nosso crescimento...a vez deles está acabar...é como se diz por ai europa o velho continente...a china vai ser a economia mundial...o japão não sei o brasil...sei que angola tbm vai entrar nesse bolão das 10 melhores economias...vamos lhe passar wi...tbm temos de provar que podemos lhes fazer frente mas duma forma equilibrada...estou farto de sofrer maldades nas mãos dos europeus...muito deles só querem ver os africanos na porcaria...ja não da mais...não aguento esse tipo de pessoas, graças a Deus que não são todos...

Vocês são um bando de complexados. O que seria um notícia boa - Artistas internacionais lembrarem que a Africa não é só a África do Sul e proporcionar diversidade cultural. Se tornou uma uma discussão sócio-política sem pé e nem cabeça.

Vocês são um bando de complexados. O que seria um notícia boa - Artistas internacionais lembrarem que a Africa não é só a África do Sul e proporcionar diversidade cultural. Se tornou uma uma discussão sócio-política sem pé e nem cabeça.



:bash: Estas a ver voce e que comeca a ofender. Somos bandos? Ninguem aqui e igual ao outro. Temos visoes diferentes em muitos aspectos(:cheers:) e classificar-nos de bandos.:ohno:

Eu nao tenho nenhum problema que banda americana va aonde quizerem. Complexado e voce que chamou-nos de incivilizados e pensa que todos forenses sao iguais, o tal bando de que te referes. Wtf? Do u read at all?

Estou curioso, voce escuta a musica de Gabriel O Pensador? Ja ouviste aquela que ele fala mal do Estados Unidos. Oque que achas dele? Tambem possui mentalidade tacanha?

^^ Gabriel O Pensador é motivo de piada no cenário Hip Hop brasileiro. Qual o o problema com os EUA? Vamos parar de ouvir Miles Davis pelo simples fato do cara ser americano? política é uma coisa, arte é outra.

^^ Gabriel O Pensador é motivo de piada no cenário Hip Hop brasileiro. Qual o o problema com os EUA? Vamos parar de ouvir Miles Davis pelo simples fato do cara ser americano? política é uma coisa, arte é outra.


Aqui esta a letra da musica do Gabriel que estou a me referir.

http://letras.terra.com.br/gabriel-pensador/96127/

Filho da Pátria Iludido
Gabriel Pensador

Composição: Gabriel O Pensador

Quando eu vejo um filho da pátria com a camisa dos Estados Unidos
Eu fico puto
Eu fico louco
Eu fico logo mordido
Porque se fosse um americano eu já não ia gostar
Mas o pior é brasileiro quando cisma de usar
Uma jaqueta ou uma camiseta com aquela estampa
D'aquela porra de bandeira azul vermelha e branca!
Eu não suporto ver aquilo no peito de um brasileiro
Me dá vontade de manchar tudo de vermelho
Vermelho sangue
Do sangue do otário
Que não soube escolher a roupinha certa no armário
E saiu de casa crente que tava abafando
Eu vô tentar me segurar mas eu não tô mais agüentando!!

Quando eu vejo um filho da pátria com a camisa dos Estados Unidos (cores dos States com as estrelas e as listras)
Quando eu vejo um filho da pátria com a camisa dos Estados Unidos (não somos patriotas nem nacionalistas)
Quando eu vejo um filho da pátria com a camisa dos Estados Unidos (como Tio Sam sempre quis)
Quando eu vejo um filho da pátria com a camisa dos Estados Unidos (amigo vai nessa que tu tá é fudido)

E ele saiu de casa crente que tava abafando
Eu fico puto
Eu fico triste
Eu fico quase chorando
De pena de raiva de tristeza de vergonha
Quando eu vejo esses babacas esses panacas esses pamonhas
Que têm coragem de ir pra rua com boné ou camiseta
Com as cores da bandeira mais nojenta do planeta!
Tem azul com estrelinha
Tem branquinho e tem vermelho
O filho da pátria é burro cego ou a casa dele não tem espelho?
Eu acho que é burro mesmo
Coitado
Sem rumo sem governo totalmente alienado
Bitolado do tipo que acredita no enlatado
Que passou no Supercine desse sábado passado
Eu tento me controlar conto até dez respiro fundo
Ô filho da pátria é assim que cê pensa que vai chegar no 1º mundo?
Vestindo essa bandeira de outro povo
Vestindo essa roupa escrota de submisso baba-ovo
Que vergonha que vexame que tragédia que fiasco:
O enforcado desfilando com a bandeira do carrasco!
Condenado
Parece que merece a morte
Me enraivece um colonizado usar a bandeira da metrópole!
E não espere eles invadirem a Amazônia
Pra saber que não passamos de uma mísera colônia
Em pleno século vinte e um beirando o ano dois mil
Por essas e outras devemos usar a bandeira do Brasil
E lutar por um país fudido
No quadro internacional
Tira a camisa dos Estados Unidos seu débil mental!

Refrão

I'm an American and I'm pround of my flag
But Gabriel is my friend and I understand what he said
You gotta have personality keep your own nationality
Look at yourself
Try to live your reality
And maybe we will all have just one nation some day
But now use your own flag let me be USA
Each one has his own country but life is way above
We aint't talking about hate
It's all about love...
Amigo cê tá perdido enganado iludido
Já devia ter sabido o que são os Estados Unidos
Um país infeliz
O mais hipócrita da terra
Malucos suicidas e imbecis que adoram guerra
Misturados num lugar cheio de farsa e preconceito
Me diz porque essa merda de bandeira no seu peito?
O quê que cê quer dizer quando veste uma camisa exaltando as belas cores dos opressores que te pisam?
O quê que cê quer passar pra pessoa que olhar pro seu peito e num entender de que lado você tá?
Mas não precisa responder
Cê tá do lado de baixo
Você é uma fêmea no cio e o Tio Sam é o seu macho
Você é o capacho dos norte-americanos
Por isso ainda acho que existe algum engano
Porque eu não me rebaixo a passear vestido
Com a roupa do inimigo: os Estados Unidos



Leia a letra e dizes oque achaste.

Olha que a letra vem mesmo de um Pais de civilizados... :lol:

Oque eu quero acentuar com esta letra e mostrar-te aquilo que voce chama de mentalidade tacanha tambem existe no Brasil. Segundo, eu quero acentuar que existem diferentes pontos de vistas em qualquer Pais. O facto de agente estar aqui a falarmos disso nao significa que os outros africanos vao concordar connosco. Aqueles que acham que o som americano e bom irao ao tal espetaculo. Aqueles que acham anormal nao irao para este espetaculo sem que tenham mentalidade tacanha ou incivilizados.

Gabriel O Pensador e um hipócrita, filhinho da acessora que ajudou a desviar milhões dos cofres públicos durante o governo Collor no começo dos anos 90. Collor foi expulso do governo por Impeachment. Pouca gente leva o cara a sério. Não sei se você sabe, mas Gabriel é um Rapper (ou diz ser), estilo 150% americano.

O que vocês acham desta banda americana que mistura Indie Rock com Afro-Pop? (o vocal nasceu no Zimbabwe)

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Música e algo universal, parem com picuinhas, outro dia descobri uma banda de Death Metal de Botswana, só de negão. Excelente. Olhem só.

www.myspace.com/wrust

O que vocês acham desta banda americana que mistura Indie Rock com Afro-Pop? (o vocal nasceu no Zimbabwe)

Música e algo universal, parem com picuinhas, outro dia descobri uma banda de Death Metal de Botswana, só de negão. Excelente. Olhem só.

www.myspace.com/wrust

Nos nao somos racistas! Ja chamaste de bando de complexados, mentes tacanhas, incivilizados e agora racista? :ohno:

Jimi Hendrix teve muita influencia no Rock e fusao nao e algo nao conhecido, pelo menos por mim. Quem disse que os nossos comentarios foram na base racial? Saiba que tambem existe africanos brancos se nao sabias disso e Angola existem.

Quanto a musica, ate que tem la sua graca. O meu gosto musical muito diverso que ultrapassa qualquer barreiras(linguisticas, etaria, continental, etc). Escuto alguns Rock(Foreigner, Sum 41, Rasmus, e outros). As que acho particularmente barulhentas prefiro nao tocar...

Lógico que sei que existe africanos brancos. No mínimo uns 6 milhões.

What is going on with you, Matt? Why are u f*cking hating on Americans?:ohno: Of course, there are some Americans possessed by arrogance, but others are very cool! However, don't mess with anybody though because they will beat the shit out of u.:lol: If the french feel the need to change names such as computer, MP3-palyer, etc, it then shows that they have not been as creative lately.:lol: Aside from Eiffel Tower, what else is cool from France? The food maybe! I am not in love with France at all. They meddle too much into African political affairs and even dare to house individuals inherently destabilizing to many countries. Germany and Netherlands :cheers:

Hey, you US-lover

what is cool for France? You must be joking

and renaming certain objects has nothing to do with being non-creative...French people are full of creativity: it´s the country of design and art par excellence in the world. it has to do with national pride!!

Germans are also beginning to impose quotas , people are fed up with seeing their language infested by A-merican slang.

France: it is by faaarrrr the most visited country in the world, almost 80 million people visited it, foreign tourists...

link: http://www.expatica.com/fr/news/local_news/france-still-the-most-visited-country-in-the-world-36268.html

France is cool, cultured and elegant, America is just cheap and full of ugly brainless unsophisticated people. Don´t you Americans mess up with Europe!!!

americans think Africa is a continent and only full of needy people...they think the rest of the world is trash whereas their own country is full of trash...they think that Hitler is still alive in Germany:nuts:...do I have to tell you more?

my parents when they visited the US felt looked down upon and were very happy when their plane touched down in "free" Europe.:cheers:


Europe has culture and sophistication what is there about the US? Cheap Lady Gagas with painful voices running around, crime and no culture to speak of. Their oldest buildings are not older than 300 years, ridiculous..no history!

Moreover, they stole so many films from Europe that were done by Italains, French and British people.

America has infested the world with their cheap "burger culture"...it pains to see that British kids aspire to be like Americans instead of preserving their multi-cultural "Britishness"...cool Britania.

Honestly said, i can´t await the day when they are kicked off their throne by China...most of my friends over here give a toss for the US of A...if they have to choose between USA and Asia they ALL prefer the latter for travel. The later has culture and is full of dynamism.

and if you think that I am anti-American, then you haven´t talked to many Europeans.

If that band wants to come to Mozambique, they are free to do so but it shouldn´t be presented as a revolution just because some A-mericans shifted to Africa to give a concert.

But instead of sending their bands to Mozambique, they should pay them money for having used Mozambique and Angola to wage their silly wars for DECADES (political scientists called it "Stellvertreterkriege")...they destroyed all infrastructure and everything and helped to drench those two thriving country in blood, those bastards!

I am really sorry, Barragon, this is just too much for me to take! I know that the language is not appropriate but I get too much worked up upon it.

Rock Angolano..by Angolans, Luanda-based...and concerts:rock:

diversos grupos
:)


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another Angolan Rock group called Grupo Instinto Primário...playing at a club called King´s Club

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and here is another group

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and another Angolan rockband called Acromaniacos


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and another one called Scars of the Soul

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and of course Neblina, the most famous ones

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Courtesy of Yuri almeidi


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some more photos of Angolan professional hard rock band "NEBLINA", not only gave concerts in Angola but also gave concerts in Namibia and Europe so far

some photos during the rehearsal

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TV presentation

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from 2007

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Courtesy of neblinametal

another Angolan rock band during rehearsals

Se Paiou - Grupo Instinto Primário

Voz e Guitarra - Marco Ricard / Coros e Guitarra Baixo - Yuri Almeida / Bateria - João Paulo ---- Banda Angolana a fazer rock Angolano... um dia de ensaio...

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playing in Luanda´s Kings Club

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or another Angolan rock band giving concerts

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But instead of sending their bands to Mozambique, they should pay them money for having used Mozambique and Angola to wage their silly wars for DECADES (political scientists called it "Stellvertreterkriege")...they destroyed all infrastructure and everything and helped to drench those two thriving country in blood, those bastards!

I am really sorry, Barragon, this is just too much for me to take! I know that the language is not appropriate but I get too much worked up upon it.


Matt, you can not ignore some basic facts. You simple can't ignore them. What if US did not come to Europe rescue when Hitler was engaged in his "lebensraum" strategies. What if US did not give fund for Europe rebuilding/reconstruction after WW2 where would European economy be right now? What if US did not want to buy European products right now? In terms of economic numbers, name a European country with the same level of GDP. Even if every single economies in Europe were added together, they still would not match the structural strength and breadth of the US. It is not exaggeration to say that Europe has literally been on America's back since 1920s. France has contributed a lot. They created the Civil Code and "invented" Democracy. They have also produced people like Rene Descartes, but it is not at all understatement that in terms of scientific production France is well behind from the US. France universities stopped being as productive as before. I am in US and I do not listen to Lady Gagas and Britney Spears. I personally don't like their music either, but the beauty of US is its diversity. It is so big that allows a peaceful interaction of different tastes, etc. Tell me that you don't like McDonalds, Coke, Ipod, Ipad, tell me :lol: It is obvious that US cannot have more than 400 years buildings, because it is relatively new country. "Culture" is whatever works man. Whatever is the US culture, it has succeeded in producing an economic powerhouse.

Lol…do you really believe in what you say? The US the helping hand to the world...Shocking, to say the least!

As for the above-mentioned products: I neither own an Ipod, Ipad, Iphone or whatever starts with I-something and I have never missed that.
I neither feel an urge to frequent fast food joints like Mc Donalds nor american Sportsbars. Their food is dreadful, unhealthy and horrendously over-priced. For the same amount I can get some freshly cooked meal in an Asian restaurant. Their food is heaven for me. I cannot get enough of it.
Last but not least, I don´t feel like drinking Coca Cola: I either go for plain mineral water, Binonade or when I feel like having a liquid that is truly sweet, I go for a glass of freshly squeezed fruit juice which is a lot healthier than principally living on Coke day in and day out.

Quite hard for someone who is American like you are, at least your way of reasoning, thinking and acting shows to me that you have truly arrived in America, sorry I mean the USA (the term “America” is often misused by Americans themselves which perfectly mirrors their arrogance and ignorance).

And as for “democracy”, please get your facts right about European history, it was not invented by the French but the Greek, the origins of European democracy.

As for the diversity aspect: cities like London, Paris, Madrid, Berlin, Marseille, Lisbon, Amsterdam among numerous others are extremely versatile. They offer all that I need in life.

Kizaca, both of us are truly living in different worlds: mine will not be yours and yours will not be mine!:)

Lol…do you really believe in what you say? The US the helping hand to the world...Shocking, to say the least!

As for the above-mentioned products: I neither own an Ipod, Ipad, Iphone or whatever starts with I-something and I have never missed that.
I neither feel an urge to frequent fast food joints like Mc Donalds nor american Sportsbars. Their food is dreadful, unhealthy and horrendously over-priced. For the same amount I can get some freshly cooked meal in an Asian restaurant. Their food is heaven for me. I cannot get enough of it.
Last but not least, I don´t feel like drinking Coca Cola: I either go for plain mineral water, Binonade or when I feel like having a liquid that is truly sweet, I go for a glass of freshly squeezed fruit juice which is a lot healthier than principally living on Coke day in and day out.

Quite hard for someone who is American like you are, at least your way of reasoning, thinking and acting shows to me that you have truly arrived in America, sorry I mean the USA (the term “America” is often misused by Americans themselves which perfectly mirrors their arrogance and ignorance).

And as for “democracy”, please get your facts right about European history, it was not invented by the French but the Greek, the origins of European democracy.

As for the diversity aspect: cities like London, Paris, Madrid, Berlin, Marseille, Lisbon, Amsterdam among numerous others are extremely versatile. They offer all that I need in life.

Kizaca, both of us are truly living in different worlds: mine will not be yours and yours will not be mine!:)


I put "invented" just to make a crude generalization. The quotation signs means that I am not making a definite/conclusive statement. Democracy cannot really be invented and neither the greek did invent Democracy.:lol: Similar system of government might have existed somewhere else at the same time the Greeks were governing themselves. Democracy in modern times which is Legal or Constituicional Democracy and equal Individual rights has its most evidence origin in France after the French Revolution in 1780s. From the Classical era to the French Revolution Europe was fairly under Monarchy. It is from the period after the French Revolution that a clear shift to a system of government similar to what we have now was taking place. You have not responded to any of my hypothesis. What if U.S does not buy any European product? You certainly think u are not using any american product, but I can tell you with confidence that it is mere illusion.
Americans don't force anybody to they ways of living. It is the people worldwide that just want to be American. Before u became so anti-American, u probably were a lover.:lol:

The biggest economy in the world is the EU...and even those countries which have not participated are doing remarkably well.

As for the democracy thing, you should have made it clear because the way you first presneted it, it was misleading now it has become clear and i agree with what you said.

Sorry, but apart from Apple, Intel, Ebay in recent years...there is nothing good what came out of the USA...but I use neither of those products, apart from Intel.

EU doesn´t need US...the future is Asia , EVERY businessman in Euroland will tell that....and they are well-positioned for the new thriving markets in the East.

as for the Gulf Arab people they prefer making business with Europeans to Americans, several of them told that to me while I have been there.

and as for the "forcing aspect". Americans are extermely clever psychologists and use the best techniques for marketing....they are genius in that field....that´s how the world fell prey to them over the decades afater World War II without even knowing it...but to all appearances it looks like "free will" but when you dig beneath the surface it is full of manipulation...very subtle but every effective and forceful, in the end.

Kizaca, no matter what you will tell to me, you will not convince me of the opposite..so let´s stop here.

Legal saber que o rock está vivo em Angola. Tem até uma oriental bem gatinha na platéia.
A banda Neblina eu já conheço. Com certeza é o conjunto angolano mais famoso. Inclusive tocaram com aquela banda que citei (Wrust) na Namíbia, e adivinhem só...Abrindo para a banda americana/japonesa Conquest for Death.

Conquest for Death em Botswana:

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Bandas underground que se arriscam em tours pela África não ganham um centavo, muito pelo contrário. Tocam por puro idealismo em consideração a um público sedento por esta forma de arte.

No Americans!!!:mad2::gaah:

Angola has its own rock bands, MADE IN ANGOLA!!! They needn´t jam to the beats of the A-mericanos, they have their own.:cheers:

And Botswana is not Angola!

Chill matt...Rock was born in USA...like it or not 85% of the music that we listen come from the USA like it or not...but this the truth...just accept it...USA always will takeover in thoses types of matters you know why???because they make young people rich, it's a free country, and they love to take risks...I mean they spend 500 millions in one single movie...now you tell me if europe they would do that!!!!...maybe england but I have my stronggest doubts....but the rest of europe just won't...USA is USA and USA is famous because of this when people go to america they going after the american dream...better jobs and having good education and problably famous and one hell of life...that is the big difference that's why a few americans will leave to come living in places like Dubai or paris, or Luanda...even London...Madonna lived there and return...if Angola puts this things and play and have good opurtunities and economy...maybe americans will find Angola interesting and perhaps they will live there.... so don't compare europe and USA they are very different places...:)

America only money money money...Europe has style!!!

I eagerly awit China´s rise, the next century the USA will loose their position, I can´t await that day...when it happnes

America only money money money...Europe has style!!!

I eagerly awit China´s rise, the next century the USA will loose their position, I can´t await that day...when it happnes

:hahaha: you are funny...even if US lose is number one spot I don't think people will leave US because of this...I agree with you US is too much addict in money...but this is what bring all the people to the USA...and lifestyle they develop and everything they have created is too strong and I don't europe are strong enough to built something like this...most of all matt...they are really lay back...a suit man can sit on the grass and eat his lunch...but this not happen in europe...that's what's make the difference...and everybody...oops I mean almos everybody...if USA lose is number one spot nothing will change my friend...USA model is almost self-sustaining...I don't know what they did but damn I would like something for Angola just Miami or Chicago development would be nice for me...:)

America only money money money...Europe has style!!!

I eagerly awit China´s rise, the next century the USA will loose their position, I can´t await that day...when it happnes


:lol: You will be the first asking to go back in the old ways of USA. China are homogeneous people and they can really ignore you badly. They are ethnically intolerant and you want them because you don't know what to expect. When you have 1.5 billion people that look fairly the same and you are different in the middle, boy:ohno:. As for the confrontations, China is not messing up with anybody yet because they know the consequences now are extremely high. They could be beaten up quickly and from different sources. However, they will become more belligerent whenever they feel they have the capability. Chinese are very pragmatic people and when they cannot get what they want through persuasion, they will not hesitate using coercion.

I am with USA :cheers:

The last days of the Empire are counted, you and me are young enough to witness that...the US-of A will end up like the Roman Empire, swept away by the force of history and time. The existing "World Order" in 50 years will look different to the existing one...even a 100 years ago, the UK and France were extremely powerful with a lot of colonies and influence the world over...their once great empires have shrivelled next to nothing (some pampered "prestige crumps" like British Virgin Island, Bermudas, Réunion, Martinique etc. have remained)...same will happen to the USA...it will lose its undisputed economic, cultural and "moral" all over-powering dominance in the decades to come. US imperialism gone!

So stick to your Lady Gagas, Britney Spears, Pdiddis, Avatars, MC Dos´, I-pod and all with what the world of tacky unsophisticated US stuff has littered our minds and perfectly conditioned us to be zombies of "American consumerism" (meant here in a material and immaterial sense of the word)...China´s rise is UNSTOPPABLE...and once China rises , Japan and the rest of Asia will reoriented itself ...in the end Asians are Asians and stick together to bring down the "beast"...which is currently still useful to them...they have understand the "game". Sounds weird, but history will tell that story, the US will be no exception to that rule.:)

As for Asians and Africans...personally, I have been to Asia and I didn´t feel mistreated, my parenst have travelled there, too.. they didn´t feel mistreated but cordially welcomed, something that they couldn´t say for the US-of A.

They only Asians that reraly mix are the Indians but for the rest this is not the case.

for example, here a small Mozambican-Asian family with kid...pics taken in Maputo:cheers:


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nice couple ...mozambicano e asiatica:cheers:

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The last days of the Empire are counted, you and me are young enough to witness that...the US-of A will end up like the Roman Empire, swept away by the force of history and time. The existing "World Order" in 50 years will look different to the existing one...even a 100 years ago, the UK and France were extremely powerful with a lot of colonies and influence the world over...their once great empires have shrivelled next to nothing (some pampered "prestige crumps" like British Virgin Island, Bermudas, Réunion, Martinique etc. have remained)...same will happen to the USA...it will lose its undisputed economic, cultural and "moral" all over-powering dominance in the decades to come. US imperialism gone!

So stick to your Lady Gagas, Britney Spears, Pdiddis, Avatars, MC Dos´, I-pod and all with what the world of tacky unsophisticated US stuff has littered our minds and perfectly conditioned us to be zombies of "American consumerism" (meant here in a material and immaterial sense of the word)...China´s rise is UNSTOPPABLE...and once China rises , Japan and the rest of Asia will reoriented itself ...in the end Asians are Asians and stick together to bring down the "beast"...which is currently still useful to them...they have understand the "game". Sounds weird, but history will tell that story, the US will be no exception to that rule.:)

I told you already China could take over...people will never get it enough of USA...and BTW China ain't having it Lady Gagas, Britney Spears, Pdiddis, Avatars, MC Dos´, I-pod and all with what the world of tacky unsophisticated US stuff...so stop being so silly...US like or not, bad or evil US is apart of you...The world without them will be empty, boring....what europeans???europeans need america boost to launch them selfs in music market...see David Guetta?got Akon I know Akon didn't born in america but he has American ID...So he is american...david guetta need him...and his album maybe the best album of his carreer...Asians???I meant no disrespect BUT CHINA???? singing rock???R&B??POP????HIP-HOP????????????????????????? nah homie sorry tough only chinese are good dancers that's all...I really can imagene the world...withou hollywood, Lady Gagas, Britney Spears, Pdiddis, Avatars, MC Dos´...in everybodies mind is impossible this happninng.. is like a bad dream... sorry to break your hopes man... but this ain't happning besides strong people wouldn't let that happning even chinese...so get your facts rights...american is home of the free's and land of the braves...that's no way...NO WAY IN YOUR LIFE YOU WILL SEE THIS HAPPNING :dunno: sorry and better wake up from this impossible dream of yours... there's a german who sings about americans...they are ramstain or something like that...they want atencion so they sing bad or good 'bout america....AMERICA MATT america.

Hehe, lets stop arguing about other people's economy and focus on our own :ohno::, Btw when and where is that show gonna happen, i kind of like rock music:)

America only money money money...Europe has style!!!

I eagerly awit China´s rise, the next century the USA will loose their position, I can´t await that day...when it happnes

But thats what youre about Matt!

No Americans!!!:mad2::gaah:

Angola has its own rock bands, MADE IN ANGOLA!!! They needn´t jam to the beats of the A-mericanos, they have their own.:cheers:

And Botswana is not Angola!

Eu acho que o gajo Lost so quis ajudarnos, avisar,ou sei la. acho que ele nao teve intensao de ofender.
Acho tambem que seria optimo se houvesse mais intercambio cultural entre Africa e o Ocidente, e essa 'e uma optima idea.
eu pessoalmente gosto de rock.

Eu acho que o gajo Lost so quis ajudarnos, avisar,ou sei la. acho que ele nao teve intensao de ofender.
Acho tambem que seria optimo se houvesse mais intercambio cultural entre Africa e o Ocidente, e essa 'e uma optima idea.
eu pessoalmente gosto de rock.

the Western World is more than just America? - and it is all but a monolith

I´d love to see more exchanges with countries such as Australia, NZ, Canada, Brazil, Argentina, Mexico, Chile....and of course Europe (Africa´s traditional partner). I am a big fan of Asia, too...Generally, I like almost every country, outside the US-of A.


I have never understood this WORLDWIDE blind US obession anyway.:ohno: What´s so special about that country?

and when it comes to Rock music (of which I am a fan as well) , there are great bands in the above-mentioned countries as well....:cheers:

Moreover, Angolan ROCK BANDS grow, too.

the Western World is more than just America? - and it is all but a monolith

I´d love to see more exchanges with countries such as Australia, NZ, Canada, Brazil, Argentina, Mexico, Chile....and of course Europe (Africa´s traditional partner). I am a big fan of Asia, too...Generally, I like almost every country, outside the US-of A.


I have never understood this WORLDWIDE blind US obession anyway.:ohno: What´s so special about that country?

and when it comes to Rock music (of which I am a fan as well) , there are great bands in the above-mentioned countries as well....:cheers:

Moreover, Angolan ROCK BANDS grow, too.

:lol: U hate the US this much? U should come here visit and your opinion may change man.:) It is not blind obssession. Name a recent scientific and technological advancement that has not started here. Mean people exist everywhere and China will disappoint u badly, trust me.

the Western World is more than just America? - and it is all but a monolith

I´d love to see more exchanges with countries such as Australia, NZ, Canada, Brazil, Argentina, Mexico, Chile....and of course Europe (Africa´s traditional partner). I am a big fan of Asia, too...Generally, I like almost every country, outside the US-of A.


I have never understood this WORLDWIDE blind US obession anyway.:ohno: What´s so special about that country?

and when it comes to Rock music (of which I am a fan as well) , there are great bands in the above-mentioned countries as well....:cheers:

Moreover, Angolan ROCK BANDS grow, too.
Did they do something wrong or what? why do you hate America so much, I mean c'mon I have some issues but there're also some good people in there..

the Western World is more than just America? - and it is all but a monolith

I´d love to see more exchanges with countries such as Australia, NZ, Canada, Brazil, Argentina, Mexico, Chile....and of course Europe (Africa´s traditional partner). I am a big fan of Asia, too...Generally, I like almost every country, outside the US-of A.


I have never understood this WORLDWIDE blind US obession anyway.:ohno: What´s so special about that country?

and when it comes to Rock music (of which I am a fan as well) , there are great bands in the above-mentioned countries as well....:cheers:

Moreover, Angolan ROCK BANDS grow, too.

please matt stop with this....I know that is your opinion and we have to respect it...but you are sound a lil bit ridiculous....what's with US-A??matt there's evil people everywhere... but USA is USA...I'm not just saying because I love it... not bro is not that...in facto you should see what people in New york did 'bout 911...to the world the arab are the terrorist who destroy the towers... but who know what republicans ounce they are in power what they can do because of the oil....many including myself believe that 911 was planned...so they can have motive to go and invade Afghanistan and Iraq...yes matt 66% of the New Yorkers believe that... so is not the people's fault...but for who run it or call the shots... is the same thing that I said so many times here 'bout Angola situation... zedu and they lil clan named 'take everything'....the difference is US-A(like you like to say) are united and "MOST" of the angolans are not because they already saw the colour of the dollar and forget they people...if I did some videos accusing or saying or demands like americans people usually does in Angola I problably would be dead, or people would call me liar, envy, greedy and among other name's... so the magic 'bout US-A is they people...like Dalai lama said when he was in Washington...he like US-A not because of the economy or military power no.... he like( and I share the same opinion as he) because of the human creativity...Hollywood,superbowl,Nascar,Basktball,music,Universities,medical care and among hundreds and hundreds more matt...and the US-A creats infrastructure for thoses kinds of creation...get it???that's why US-A is so big and important for everyone...that's why people called a country of opurtunities...Angola could be on the same path but before they got to give a people freedom speech...big time like in US-A...no other country in the world has more freedom speech than US-A...matt this kind of things count and you better than anybody should know that...like I said before or above...US-A could or will lose the number one spot of the world economy...but still people will not leave US-A...to go where?England???first the whether sucks...and streets are...I don't know americans will not like it...paris??americans love paris but a very a very a few get french...most of them that get's are all the time in Canada...China??I mean HELL NOOOO thoses people love freedom and china simple that's not have that, Dubai????:hilarious....no matter I great or taller buildings that dubai can built but freedom...and besides they don't have the same open mind has the rest of the world...And where all the gays will go?????shaik mohamed spot???:hilarious I don't think so matt:ohno:...Brazil??:nono: os cara das favelas vão descer dos seus morros para pegar os gringos como se tivesse roubando varios rebuçados numa criança rapa'...:lol:...South África???HELL NO...so matt US-A always will be US-A...people are used to them...if they disappear they take half of the human creativity with them...we need US-A...africa need them...as well they need us...don't hate so much US...most the europeans despise a black or african man...US people they are used with black people speacially now...according to the facts or reports Portugal is at the bottom of the list of the most racials problems(thank God)...And the top of the list are countries like spain, france(it is unthinkable how france the country that had more colonies or the second still has this problem and I say this because they entire national football team only a few are white...the rest all NEGROS...)Italy,Greece,GERMANY(bayern munique football club's president have said that Fifa should pull it off the World cup because they thing that they(South Africans) are good enough in everyway to host something like that(World cup)...Fifa and UEFA should punish him :down: speacially because UEFA has making a commercials in the break of every game to say no to racism and respect... you like that much of europeans????I don't think so but thank God that Third generation that is coming won't be like that...so matt trust me you need US-A even though with all cockiness when they call themselfs america and totally forgeting and disrespecting Canada...it ain't pretty but that's the world we have it...trust me matt you and I and the Rest of the people need US-A...word brother, peace to you:yes::okay:

and if you didn't see yet you can check this documentary out...it's call loose change tell all the truth 'bout 911...bush murdered 3.000 live to kill hundreds more over the oil...

Evany, I have seen that documentary and many many many many many more about the US-of A! Thanks..continue to love them..I can perfectly do without them.


Rock Angola National Angolan rock by Angolan musicians performing in

Luanda
Lubango
Huambo
Benguela
Lobito




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Evany, I have seen that documentary and many many many many many more about the US-of A! Thanks..continue to love them..I can perfectly do without them.


Rock Angola National Angolan rock by Angolan musicians performing in

Luanda
Lubango
Huambo
Benguela
Lobito





You can say that bro...everybody needs everybody...see what's happen to the world right now????who thought US-A would be in the shape that is today???who thought that some African countries are start to showing they colours...who???and you know Africa is the richest continent if we just act the way we supposed to...we would be flying much and so much higher...we need every help we can get...that includes US-A...and yes US-A + his people are apart of you and the rest of us...just deal wit it man...peace to you ;)

I will and can do without them..I am OK with the rest, apart from the Russian (stupid communist mentality) who kill Africans like cattle in the streets...I would never go there EITHER!

I will and can do without them..I am OK with the rest, apart from the Russian (stupid communist mentality) who kill Africans like cattle in the streets...I would never go there EITHER!

Ok then your call...but please do not spit on the sky...because the sky might spit you right back and could be harder that your up spit...please...we need everybody...ok like I said your call....your call brother.

Ok then your call...but please do not spit on the sky...because the sky might spit you right back and could be harder that your up spit...please...we need everybody...ok like I said your call....your call brother.

I am not spitting on anybody..Angola has its own growing rock bands...there needn´t be any ectasy about some Americans poking their noses in here.

and what does Americans have to offer anyway? Some bombs like in Irak and Afghanistan...Moreover, Americans are generally the most ignorant people in the world, they only think that there is America and no other country in the world.....the rest of the world is "trash" for them which they can bomb and tear to pices as they please....it is them who are viciously spitting upon the world and not the other way around.

Like I said this thread was only created because an American band comes to Africa...if it was a British, French, Canadian, Australian, Malaysian, Argentinan, Mexican, German or Brazilian band nobody would have opened an extra thread for it. That speaks volumes.;)

I think this thread was about some American rock band show in Maputo, not about your likes/deslikes, I think it's a good way for an cultural exchange between USA and moz.
Also I bet there're some good people in USA.

I think this thread was about some American rock band show in Maputo, not about your likes/deslikes, I think it's a good way for an cultural exchange between USA and moz.
Also I bet there're some good people in USA.


It is not about my likes/dislikes...it is just confusing and annyoing why this piece of shit info gets an entire thread as if a world revolution has started.

WOULD THAT STILL BE THE CASE IF THAT BAND WAS NOT A-MERICAN ONE?

Americans think Africans ride on lion backs to some bush school under a tree...they think that Hitler is still alive like my Nigerian relative who lives in the UK told me....do I have to tell you more about it?

As for cultural exchange, I am very very very happy to see cultural exchange...but I do think that exchange is more beneficial when it comes from other countries than a country that has recently destroyed Irak in the name of "freedom and democracy"...not to speak of other nations ...all done in the late 20th and 21st century. Terrible, to put it mildly.

and if you think that I am anti-American theny you haven´t spoken with the guys over here.

Generally, the world will emancipate itself from US tutelage/cultural imperialism...Europeans prefer more and more Europeans films and music....Asians will do it as well and hopefully Africans, too ..it pains to see that Africans throw away their music and dance to American gansta music and think this is cool, riding in flashy cars with topless girls on the backseat and yelling" You, sexy motherfucker!....."...American culture is an inviatition to crime, violence and immoral values...:ohno:

Check this out ..unbelievable:ohno:

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Check this out ..unbelievable:ohno:



Not every Americans are like that...:lol: My friend is smart as hell come speak with him and u might get very surprised by the depth of his knowledge. :lol:

it is just confusing and annyoing why this piece of shit info gets an entire thread as if a world revolution has started.

I agree that the topic should never have been a thread. Americans going to Mozambique or anywhere else is not something we should make party about. Some Americans are ignorant bastards, but with those I don't interact. However, there is considerable majority that knows a lot of shit otherwise they would not be the economic, scientific and technological powerhouse.

It is not about my likes/dislikes...it is just confusing and annyoing why this piece of shit info gets an entire thread as if a world revolution has started.

WOULD THAT STILL BE THE CASE IF THAT BAND WAS NOT A-MERICAN ONE?

Americans think Africans ride on lion backs to some bush school under a tree...they think that Hitler is still alive like my Nigerian relative who lives in the UK told me....do I have to tell you more about it?

As for cultural exchange, I am very very very happy to see cultural exchange...but I do think that exchange is more beneficial when it comes from other countries than a country that has recently destroyed Irak in the name of "freedom and democracy"...not to speak of other nations ...all done in the late 20th and 21st century. Terrible, to put it mildly.

and if you think that I am anti-American theny you haven´t spoken with the guys over here.

Generally, the world will emancipate itself from US tutelage/cultural imperialism...Europeans prefer more and more Europeans films and music....Asians will do it as well and hopefully Africans, too ..it pains to see that Africans throw away their music and dance to American gansta music and think this is cool, riding in flashy cars with topless girls on the backseat and yelling" You, sexy motherfucker!....."...American culture is an inviatition to crime, violence and immoral values...:ohno:

Really I do not disagree with you Mattias, I am living in US since august and there are some retarded people who can ask "do you have cars in Africa?", "do you sleep under the tree?" but there's still some good people in here and please don't put all americans in the same bag.

What a pity! ...nobody seems to understand what I am aiming at! So I will stop here.

Rock é fixe :lol:
Quem não gosta de ouvir o Nickelback ?
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Rock é fixe metal é que é podre..muito satanico..


Quando vi na tepeco fiquei assim :eek2: sintam o Rock Angolano
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va não ta assim tão mal :lol::rock:

Check this out ..unbelievable:ohno:

fJuNgBkloFE

Matt YOU DEFENETLY HATE AMERICA...BUT THIS STUFF THAT VIDEO SHOW IS JUST F***** RIDICULOUS...HOW COME THEY DON'T KNOW A COUNTRY WITH START WITH U.....:doh::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::badnews:....THEY DON'T KNOW UNITED KINGDOM???HELL NO MAN:ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno:...RETARDED PEOPLE... but you know matt I don't blame them...because most of the US TV's don't show the rest of the world...and besides United states is big like damn... but still don't know your inicials country????:bash::bash::bash::bash::ohno::ohno::ohno:...damn...now picture this...if they don't know United kingdom the closest country in terms of friendship with states picture Angola, namibia or lesotho....

I'm cracking out with this video matt...:lol: the next country of the middle east to invade it would be italy??????????????????????:hilarious...:rofl:

Losternaut, deve estar bem desiludido! Nao fazia ideia que a thread dele se transformaria nisto. :lol:

Losternaut, deve estar bem desiludido! Nao fazia ideia que a thread dele se transformaria nisto. :lol:

O que nao 'e justo nem?:ohno:

Eu acho que o gajo Lost so quis ajudarnos, avisar,ou sei la. acho que ele nao teve intensao de ofender.
Acho tambem que seria optimo se houvesse mais intercambio cultural entre Africa e o Ocidente, e essa 'e uma optima idea.
eu pessoalmente gosto de rock.

Foi exatamente essa a minha intenção :)

Losternaut, deve estar bem desiludido! Nao fazia ideia que a thread dele se transformaria nisto. :lol:

Não mesmo. Só queria fazer uma "propagandinha" do show.

Não mesmo. Só queria fazer uma "propagandinha" do show.


:banana: Thanks for that! Cultural interchanges is a good thing, but Matt also makes couple of good points. This stuff doesn't really need a thread. It is not a big deal that American band goes to Mozambique. So, there should not be American exceptionalism in here because they are not the center of the Universe. You creating the thread sounds like " Oh my god look an american band in Mozambique" as if it something completely out of space.

Since we already know that it was not at all your intention to paint this picture,I extend my apologies for the misunderstandings. Just as side note, never ever call us uncivilized.... We had Music, Dance, Sculptures, etc millenias before interaction with Europeans. Capoeira that you guys seem to love, should not have come from uncivilized people. Civilized and uncivilized discussions belong in the years 1400s, the Age of Exploration. This term should be banned now....

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:banana: Thanks for that! Cultural interchanges is a good thing, but Matt also makes couple of good points. This stuff doesn't really need a thread. It is not a big deal that American band goes to Mozambique. So, there should not be American exceptionalism in here because they are not the center of the Universe. You creating the thread sounds like " Oh my god look an american band in Mozambique" as if it something completely out of space.

Since we already know that it was not at all your intention to paint this picture,I extend my apologies for the misunderstandings. Just as side note, never ever call us uncivilized.... We had Music, Dance, Sculptures, etc millenias before interaction with Europeans. Capoeira that you guys seem to love, should not have come from uncivilized people. Civilized and uncivilized discussions belong in the years 1400s, the Age of Exploration. This term should be banned now....

Ok. No bad fellings :)

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even shortly after Nazi Germany life was better




An Unexpected Freedom What black U.S. soldiers experienced in Germany after the war – By Peter H. Koepf

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Of all places, the country that took racism to the absolute extreme appeared to black U.S. soldiers as a haven of racial tolerance. In the land of the Nazis, which they had helped to defeat, they felt like emancipated human beings for the first time in 1945.

It happened sometime in 1946, in the nightclub of the U.S. Army in a small Bavarian town: A couple of black soldiers danced in the middle of the room with German ‘Frolleins.’

That in itself was already a remarkable occurrence because at that time no black man would have dared to even approach a white woman in the U.S., especially in the South. At that time, white women danced with, dated and married only white men.

In Germany however, where racist mania had raged only a short time earlier, the black soldiers were very popular after initial distrust. Among those Germans who had direct contact with them, they were considered good-natured, generous and nice to children.

A study published in 1954 by the International Union for Child Welfare in Geneva, stated that Puerto Rican-Americans were particularly popular. They “particularly distinguished themselves through their amiable manner and through an impeccable comportment toward German citizens and they helped wherever they could. Due to this behavior, they were known and popular in every family and even established close ties within some families on occasion.”

According to an October 1946 report in Ebony magazine, that evening in Amberg, five white U.S. soldiers entered the soldiers’ club. What they saw apparently outraged them. One of the white soldiers, Floyd D. Hudson, threw a beer bottle onto the dance floor.

The black soldiers, under attack, did what they would have never dared to do back home: They went and got a few .30 caliber carbines and shot at the white soldiers. Hudson died while the four others survived their injuries. The aftermath was the same that it would have been back home: A court sentenced three of the black solders to death by hanging.

Also, there was the question of who owns the spoils of war, when these are women. Let’s not kid ourselves: It wasn’t only Russian soldiers who raped German women: More than 1,500 such acts committed by U.S. soldiers are on record in 1945. In her book, “GIs and Germans: Culture, Gender, and Foreign Relations,” Petra Goedde wrote that some soldiers “regarded the ‘taking’ of a German woman as a form of revenge.”

Still, there was certainly much consensual fraternization. First of all, in 10 percent of the documented cases it was supposedly the parents who compelled their daughters to have intercourse with the occupying Allied soldiers, according to the Geneva study. The goal was always the same: “The black soldiers were particularly sought-after as a source of food, candy and tobacco products because they were known for their benevolence and generosity,” the researchers wrote.

War correspondent Meyer Levin paraphrased such relationships in the magazine Search in 1950 this way: “Rape in Germany was accomplished through the medium of a bar of chocolate, and was known as fraternization.” Furthermore, he analyzed “the lustful eagerness of German girls to fulfill their roles as conquered women.” Others characterized the relationships as “between love affairs and prostitution.”

Initially however, contact between the soldiers and the local population had been prohibited. In February 1945, in Stolberg near Aachen, four women were charged with “acting in a manner prejudicial to the good order of members of the Allied Armed Forces.” The court said that they had invited U.S. soldiers into their homes after dark, “tempted them into violating the fraternization rule.”

In October 1945, the ban on fraternization was lifted. Nonetheless, Germans still did not have access to the nightclubs of the U.S. Army. Because of that, the soldiers frequently explained that their companions were allegedly displaced persons, in other words, not Germans, that they were Polish, for example. In the spring of 1946, the military in Nuremberg reviewed whether it would make sense to issue “social passes” for desirable members of the German population – naturally, all of them women.

But the affairs between German women and GIs had long since become customary. Newsweek had already asked in December: “Do the Fräuleins change our Joe?”:ohno:

The Fräuleins did indeed change Joe. However, not in the way that Newsweek had feared, namely that the U.S. soldiers would not denazify Germans but rather that “Veronica Dankeschön” could infect the soldiers with venereal diseases, and even worse, with the Nazi virus. Billy Wilder turned this topic into his propagandistic anti-fraternization movie, “A Foreign Affair.”

At the time, Americans back home were also clearly against their soldiers being allowed to date German women: 70 percent of young women responding and 40 percent of men under 30 said they opposed such unions.

The soldiers in Germany perceived the situation differently: “Most American soldiers held Germans collectively responsible for the war but absolved the Germans they knew from individual guilt,” Goedde wrote in her book. Most importantly for the U.S. soldiers, women were not part of the pool of Nazi sympathizers. And they were certainly not political missionaries, which is why not a single U.S. soldier returned home as a Nazi.

The German experience very much changed the black Joe however: it shook his life and self-image. In “racist” Germany of all places, he found his personal freedom, in the same Germany whose inhabitants – that is what he had been told – had collectively murdered millions of people for racist reasons until only a few months earlier.

In “Last of the Conquerors,” William Gardner Smith’s character, a black sergeant, says: “You know what the hell I learned? That a ****** ain’t no different from nobody else. I had to come over here to learn that. I hadda come over here and let the Nazis teach me that.”

There were approximately 30,000 black U.S. soldiers who had come to liberate the world from German fascism. “Many of them, particularly those from the American South, experienced for the first time in their lives the freedom to date white women without fear of retribution,” according to Ebony magazine. “At a time, when lynching was still all too common in the American South, Germany appeared, especially to those who grew up in the South, like a haven of racial tolerance.” Ebony wrote that black soldiers enjoyed “more friendship and equality in Berlin than in Birmingham or on Broadway.”

By 1951, the relationships between German women and U.S. soldiers had produced about 94,000 children, about 3,000 of them “Mischlinge” (mixed-race children) as they were called at the time. Four-fifth of these children, who were conspicuous in appearance to Germans in the postwar period, lived with their mothers or close relatives. The Survey magazine concluded from a poll in 1949 that “German mothers treated their ‘Mischlings*kinder’ considerably better than their counterparts in England and Japan.” English mothers often sent them to children’s homes or orphanages and “some Japanese mothers had even resorted to infanticide of occupation children (both black and white).” Survey went on: “In Germany not only is infanticide unthinkable but even separation is rarely considered.”

Nonetheless, one should not sugarcoat it: Women who got involved with black soldiers had problems in Germany as well. They had to endure ridicule and contempt. Especially those returning from the front and prisoner of war camps berated and beat them – and not only their own husbands.

In her 2002 dissertation, “Zwischen Fürsorge und Ausgrenzung. Afrodeutsche ‘Besatzungskinder’ im Nachkriegs-Deutschland” (Between care and marginalization: Black-German “occupation children” in postwar Germany), Yara-Colette Lemke Muniz de Faria reports on the case of a girl whose mother had placed with her parents. The parents allegedly could not let the mixed-race child out into the street “and when guests came to visit, the child would be hidden.”

Nonetheless, the 1954 Geneva study came to the following conclusion overall: “According to our investigation, the cases in which mixed-race children are being rejected by their communities because of their family background should be considered the exception. Generally, the relatives, neighbors and other children meet them with cordiality and affection. It is not uncommon that they are even being particularly favored and pampered, be it because they make friends quickly due to their funny manner and their cuddly nature, be it because the grown-ups feel pity for these children for whom they anticipate a difficult future.”

Nonetheless, well-meaning pastors’ wives and eager youth welfare office employees came up with numerous solutions in order to help the children and their mothers: children’s homes just for them, adoption in the U.S., Africa and Venezuela. In the end, most children stayed in Germany. There could have been worse solutions.

But there could have been betters solutions as well: At least one quarter of the black fathers paid alimony, more than among the white fathers. One in five made an effort to get permission to marry his girlfriend. But that only succeeded in one out of 200 cases.

Starting in 1946, the so-called “Sweetheart bill” (War Brides Act) allowed brides to enter the United States. By June 1950, 14,175 German wives had come to the United States – six husbands and 750 children as well – predominantly the brides of white soldiers, however.

While researching files of the headquarters of the European Command (EUCOM), Faria found the following statistic: By September 1947, 908 black-American soldiers had filed a request to be allowed to marry their German girlfriends. Fourteen were given permission, 1.5 percent. It is no surprise, though: Until 1967, she writes, such interracial marriages were banned in 30 states.


Picture above: Unknown happiness: Black U.S. soldiers found acceptance and tolerance in post war Germany – and sometimes even the love of their lives.


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even today, take this example..what will strike you instantly...only Whites appearing although there are more than 40 million Blacks living in the US-of A....not a single black face appears in that and many other TV series...I have studied it over and over again.

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take the UK, for example...races are much more together and not apart:cheers:


Revealed: the rise of mixed-race Britain



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* Anushka Asthana and David Smith
* The Observer, Sunday 18 January 2009

One in 10 children in the UK now lives in a mixed-race family, a major study reveals today, raising future hopes of a non-racist Britain.

Mixed-race relationships are now so common that some ethnic groups - starting with African-Caribbean - will virtually disappear, the research states. Young people are six times more likely to be mixed-race as adults. Experts believe the findings, which come just days after Prince Harry was rebuked for calling a fellow cadet "Paki", and Prince Charles admitted to referring to an Asian friend as "Sooty", mean that future generations "will not see race in the way we see it".

Lucinda Platt, author of the report and an academic at the Institute of Social and Economic Research at Essex University, describes the shift towards a mixed-race Britain as "dramatic".

Half of all men in Britain who have Caribbean heritage and are in a relationship already have partners of a different race. The same is true of one in five black African men, one in 10 Indian men and women and two out of five Chinese women. One in five children belongs to an ethnic minority - a far higher proportion than among the adult population.

This week, a decade on from the Macpherson report into the murder of the black teenager Stephen Lawrence, Trevor Phillips, chair of the Equality and Human Rights Commission, will "celebrate" the study's findings, but warn that there is still much to be fought for.

A spokeswoman for the commission warned against complacency. "We need to be alert to tensions within communities that may be exacerbated by economic downturn and to remain vigilant against discrimination and divisiveness - particularly across boundaries of faith."

Today's study, commissioned by the EHRC and seen exclusively by the Observer, shows that 9% of children are of "mixed or multiple heritage" - that is, they live with parents from different ethnic groups, or they are themselves of mixed ethnicity. Over the past 14 years the number of children of Caribbean heritage with one white parent has risen from 39% to 49%. Among the Indian population it has increased from 3% to 11%, for Pakistanis from 1% to 4%, and for Chinese from 15% to 35%.

Minorities also tend to be younger. While half of the white British population in Britain is aged over 40, half of the Bangladeshi community is under 21.

1 in 10 UK kids are from a mixed-race family...interesting report ethnic groups more integrated etc.

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...and please watch what the girl has to say at 2:19 min...compared to the US where she felt constantly stared at because she is mixed race:ohno:


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that´s me until I die I will stand up for this

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http://blackwomenforobama.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/racism.jpg

http://doctor2008.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/black-and-white-baby-together1.jpg

PEACE:)

Matt there is no reason at all to post this bull shit. Everybody that knows the history has come across things like this. I am in the U.S and am not stared at all the time. As for the "white only", this type of sign stop to exist with a huge fight from people like Martin Luther King. Many Americans have evolved pass this and the new generation can not be blamed by their ancestors immorality.

As long as topic like these are still discussed


The USA is infested by race, they still define absolutely every and anything strictly along race lines..and racial frontiers are still often hard like steel...

I never forget that debate when a Black Canadian governor married a white Franco-Canadian and blacks and whites in the US-of A talked about it

Is Obama Black Enough?

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1584736,00.html

threads like these exists many many on the internet

http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/high-school-life/873526-obama-really-black.html

youtube videos like these are to be found everywhere

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Studying trends in interracial sexual relationships is important because intimate relationships between different racial groups are viewed as an indicator of the social and geographic distance between racial groups, and a barometer of race relations," said Joyner. Unlike other studies, which typically look at marriage or cohabitation and sometimes at current dating relationships, this study looked at trends in these relationships over a 10-year period.


The rate of interracial marriage, however, is still relatively uncommon: in 2002, only 2.9 percent of all marriages were interracial, according to the U.S. Bureau of the Census.

In a 2003 study, Joyner had reported that adolescents in interracial romances were significantly less willing to reveal their relationship to family and close friends than those in same-race relationships, suggesting that such relationships still do not receive whole-hearted approval by society.

The study was supported, in part, by grants from McGill University, Cornell, the University of Pennsylvania and the National Institute of Child Health and Human Development.

for full report

http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/nov05/interracial.couples.ssl.html

As long as topic like these are still discussed

http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/nov05/interracial.couples.ssl.html


You citing an American University! That's a revolution keep up with the good work Dear friend:lol:

Foi exatamente essa a minha intenção :)

Desculpa ai lost..não foi intenção estragar o teu thread...peço desculpas...:okay:

Well,..it still drives home the main point..do you think that an Asian or European univeristy should have done that study?

But to put your mind at rest, I will look for one done by Asians, Europeans etc...I doubt that the figures will be any different, though!

Kizaca...if you display an alertness of mind, you will notice how people even overreact when Whites or Chinese people are shown in the General African sub-forum, more than 90% of those forumers live where? ....Have a guess?:)

If there are any countries at all in the world to showcase as countries of racial harmony, the USA wouldn´t figure in that...with or without Obama.:)

Well,..it still drives home the main point..do you think that an Asian or European univeristy should have done that study?

But to put your mind at rest, I will look for one done by Asians, Europeans etc...I doubt that the figures will be any different, though!

Kizaca...if you display an alertness of mind, you will notice how people even overreact when Whites or Chinese people are shown in the General African sub-forum, more than 90% of those forumers live where? ....Have a guess?:)

If there are any countries at all in the world to showcase as countries of racial harmony, the USA wouldn´t figure in that...with or without Obama.:)

matt please... germany and england have skinheads or something like that...and yes they like to kill black people too...speacially in germany...whateva in germany or england both still have a problem with reacism...samuel eto'o suffer racist chants in is own field when he was playing at Barcelona at time....the Barcelona fans start call him black and among other offensive words... and ronaldinho have said if he leave I leave... recently Ballotelli born and rise in italy but is parents are from ghana he was target of so many offensive racism words against him... I guess it was at chievo verona stadium...and italian league aplay a very light punnishement to the club just a simple fine...this is not enough specially when fifa will have is top competition in african country... and if you think that is so cool and so pleasent living in UK, Germany,Spain or FRANCE then tell me why Uefa is making announcement or commercials in everygame special of the champions league about Racism???tell me matt.... out here in europe if you yawl people will tell you to shut up or get back to your country... but in america is different you a nobody your voice can be heard... and over there they don't tell you to return to your country...this is the big difference...but thoses videos that you posted it is just stupid because as far as I'm coucern people are free to mary who they want and trust me...there are very mix race in the USA that you don't know about...but that is just me...

Good friend Matthias, this one is for your reflection since you are fixating too much on the chinese. :dance2:

By the way, the little girl is chic, she is just hot!

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matt please... germany and england have skinheads or something like that...and yes they like to kill black people too...speacially in germany...whateva in germany or england both still have a problem with reacism...samuel eto'o suffer racist chants in is own field when he was playing at Barcelona at time....the Barcelona fans start call him black and among other offensive words... and ronaldinho have said if he leave I leave... recently Ballotelli born and rise in italy but is parents are from ghana he was target of so many offensive racism words against him... I guess it was at chievo verona stadium...and italian league aplay a very light punnishement to the club just a simple fine...this is not enough specially when fifa will have is top competition in african country... and if you think that is so cool and so pleasent living in UK, Germany,Spain or FRANCE then tell me why Uefa is making announcement or commercials in everygame special of the champions league about Racism???tell me matt.... out here in europe if you yawl people will tell you to shut up or get back to your country... but in america is different you a nobody your voice can be heard... and over there they don't tell you to return to your country...this is the big difference...but thoses videos that you posted it is just stupid because as far as I'm coucern people are free to mary who they want and trust me...there are very mix race in the USA that you don't know about...but that is just me...

Nobody says that Western Europe is free of racism but the level and interaction between race groups is much more relaxed and less forced than in the USA....even in Canada, I have been told that races intermingle in the private sphere more than in the Sates.

no Blacks were killed in sophisticated Western Germany, only mentally backward Eastern parts, infested by decades of Communism....almost all Eastern European countries are hyper-racists....I wouldn´t go there either.

Personally, I have never ever encountered any form of racism in cultivated Western Europe and my friendship circle consists of mixed race, Japanese, black, whites/European and Turks and Lebanese.

evany, those videos are to be found on end on youtube and just confirm what I have been told and even witnessed when I was in the USA...that mixed-race British girl even said it.

As for mixed-race marriages, they are very rare between Blacks and Whites in the USA (again I can provide the links), they are more common between Asians and Whites in the USA.

and I have checked it even further...when there is mixed marriage: one of the parent is not Black or White American but either comes from Europe or Africa.

I can provide you all the sources as I always do...I base my argumenst by providing sources, often scientific ones, if possible.:)

Kizaca, I have travveled to Asia extensively...again I never experienced racism there...I would tell it if it was the case, believe me.

So I gotta go now, have some work to do.

Kizaca, I have travveled to Asia extensively...again I never experienced racism there...I would tell it if it was the case, believe me.

So I gotta go now, have some work to do.

Chinese are very diplomatic people. They will not come out and do things so that you perceive negativity. Wait until they all together...:lol: Have a nice day Matt it is always a pleasure exchange comments with u...

Kizaca, I have travveled to Asia extensively...again I never experienced racism there...I would tell it if it was the case, believe me.

So I gotta go now, have some work to do.
Mesmo Matt? Acho que nao tinhas que chegar ao ponto de postar isso neste thread. Eu praticalmente moro nos EUA e nunca vi tal coisa.
so porcausa de uma banda americana em Maputo ja estas a ir longe demais com o seu odio dos americanos.:deadthrea:nono:

Nobody says that Western Europe is free of racism but the level and interaction between race groups is much more relaxed and less forced than in the USA....even in Canada, I have been told that races intermingle in the private sphere more than in the Sates.

no Blacks were killed in sophisticated Western Germany, only mentally backward Eastern parts, infested by decades of Communism....almost all Eastern European countries are hyper-racists....I wouldn´t go there either.

Personally, I have never ever encountered any form of racism in cultivated Western Europe and my friendship circle consists of mixed race, Japanese, black, whites/European and Turks and Lebanese.

evany, those videos are to be found on end on youtube and just confirm what I have been told and even witnessed when I was in the USA...that mixed-race British girl even said it.

As for mixed-race marriages, they are very rare between Blacks and Whites in the USA (again I can provide the links), they are more common between Asians and Whites in the USA.

and I have checked it even further...when there is mixed marriage: one of the parent is not Black or White American but either comes from Europe or Africa.

I can provide you all the sources as I always do...I base my argumenst by providing sources, often scientific ones, if possible.:)

it's a simple thing brother US and Europeans don't like africans here...simple let's go back to our world and be there because after all we came from there....why don't we leave???I would like to go back to my country and stay there...but africans, afro-americans or afro-europeans and afro-asians they are no interested in go back to they home land...exemple yeterday a kid born in portugal but his parents are angolan...I say to him...your country needs you...and he said to me like...my country??I'm portuguese I never go to the country(Angola)...see??? As far as see...much and much more black desire to came here, and in portugal alot of black people sufer with discrimination in their jobs and abuse them make over over shifts at work but other europeans countries are even worst....but they don't know as soon they step in here most of the time what they will find is races problems..let's just call for the day....I know that you have a huge capacity of resources and I don't doubt you....the three of them Americans, europeans, and asian... still and always will have gosse pumps on black people period... even all martin luther king, malcom x and other black fighter people and barack obama that suffers sometimes when they say is not even black enough is mulato so what???big deal the are millions of them... peace bro and let's hope to return to our africa

Call in USA: Hannity and Colmes - Exterminate White People ..so much for racial harmony in the States that people claim over and over again:ohno:

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Tupac hates white people...so full of hatred and aggression

I have listened to numerous songs of him and he has made many songs expressing his hate towards white people.

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Black woman berates white guy on subway

and read the comments to that youtube video...to see that the USA is anything but a post-racial society...shocking

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you will easily find videos like that

Black Woman Hit By Angry White Guy...this was in 2008!!!


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Teacher sues because racist black kids

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Did race slow Katrina repsonse in New Orleans flooding?

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Racism in Hollywood (Baker Twin interview)


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All those videos and much much more ...things that I cannot post in here - are easily to be found....documents anything, I have been follwing all that in the States for a long time now. Unfortunately, the USA in 2010 is still a nation that is STRICTLY defined along rac(e)/-ist lines. That´s truly sad indeed for a country that invariably claims to be the most liberal, freest, most democratic, peaceful etc. country in the entire world ...and whose calls the world seems to follow, swallow and abide to uncritically!

Que merda! Eu só queria anunciar um show e no máximo conversar um pouco sobre música. Acho que tá na hora de :lock::lock:

Mas o que o racismo nos EUA tem a ver com esse show que vai haver em Maputo? julgo que se eles fossem assim racistas nao viriam fazer nenhum shows em um pais como Mocambique que a maioria 'e negra. Nao vamos julgar paises pelo que a minoria das pessoas fazem, eu pessoalmente quando ouvi sobre o tal atentado de Cabinda(que a media Mocambicana fez questao de mostrar) nao culpei toda a Angola de ser terrorista poxa! give me a break!:deadthrea:weirdo:

matt you talking 'bout killing????do you think that is worthy blackman exterminate white people????dude where are you man???and you don't thikn that your beloved europe has this problem???well here this video for ya buddy....

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in here's Eto'o being abused on the field...:ohno:

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you who is the responsable of all this???is our leards because if they were not so ambicious we africans would'nt be upon all this shit man....just leave it man because this is a very stronger subject...this subject belong to GOD's hands and not in mortal hands like ours...so matt I say this to you...everywhere you go you will find...

Mas o que o racismo nos EUA tem a ver com esse show que vai haver em Maputo? julgo que se eles fossem assim racistas nao viriam fazer nenhum shows em um pais como Mocambique que a maioria 'e negra. Nao vamos julgar paises pelo que a minoria das pessoas fazem, eu pessoalmente quando ouvi sobre o tal atentado de Cabinda(que a media Mocambicana fez questao de mostrar) nao culpei toda a Angola de ser terrorista poxa! give me a break!:deadthrea:weirdo:

Oh Rapaz o que aconteceu em Cabinda podia ter acontecido em qualquer sitio...sabes o que mais irritou-me foi alguns moçambicanos a abrirem a boca a criticar que tão com medo e :blahblah: não tiro-vos a razão...mas desd k a guerra acabou nunca mas se falou de angola que é isso ou assado ou kuzido...mas deixa só as vossas caras tão marcadas....há uma coisa o mundo gira....sempre a girar...ainda por cima em benguela foram bem apoiados pelo povo benguelense....se calhar era so para aparecer...e se fazer de vitimas...:nono:

O que aconteceu com este thread, não estou entendendo nada... :dunno:

Evany

Racism is everyhwere...but it is embedded in the US-of A.it is part of the country´s social / genetic fabric...and this is just the tip of the iceberg of what the USA is all about...I cannot talk about the rest in the context of this forum!!!

Still my question has not been answered, if that US-OF AAA band wouldn´t be from that country but let´s say from Canada, UK, France, Brazil, Portugal, Malaysia, Japan or wherever, nobody would have opened an extra thread for it...only becuause it is from US- of AA

What´s so special about this country that claims to be and have everything but cannot afford to give free health care to all its citizens (48 miilion live without social health care...although it is by far the richest country on earth whereas it is free to splash around $TRILLIONS ON SILLY WARS AND BANK BAILOUTS:devil:....

Oh Rapaz o que aconteceu em Cabinda podia ter acontecido em qualquer sitio...sabes o que mais irritou-me foi alguns moçambicanos a abrirem a boca a criticar que tão com medo e :blahblah: não tiro-vos a razão...mas desd k a guerra acabou nunca mas se falou de angola que é isso ou assado ou kuzido...mas deixa só as vossas caras tão marcadas....há uma coisa o mundo gira....sempre a girar...ainda por cima em benguela foram bem apoiados pelo povo benguelense....se calhar era so para aparecer...e se fazer de vitimas...:nono:

Eu pessoalmente gosto muito de Angola porque meus pais sao todos angolanos que fujiram no tempo da guerra e nao sao Mocambicanos, O que eu tentei dizer ai em cima 'e que o Matt nao pode julgar os americanos pelo que a minoria das pessoas sao/fazem, se nao todo mundo diria que os Angolanos sao terroristas porcausa do caso de Cabinda.
Eu sei que os Mozas agiram muito mal em passarem dois dias a comentarem na TV sobre Cabinda e ate em programas de entretenimento tudo era "Angola/Cabinda". mas tambem nao precisa lancar pestes oh Evany!:nuts:

O que aconteceu com este thread, não estou entendendo nada... :dunno:

O que aconteceu é que este Matthias é completamente insano! Caso de hospício mesmo. Ou ele é louco ou anda fumando maconha estragada.

Evany

Racism is everyhwere...but it is embedded in the US-of A.it is part of the country´s social / genetic fabric...and this is just the tip of the iceberg of what the USA is all about...I cannot talk about the rest in the context of this forum!!!

Still my question has not been answered, if that US-OF AAA band wouldn´t be from that country but let´s say from Canada, UK, France, Brazil, Portugal, Malaysia, Japan or wherever, nobody would have opened an extra thread for it...only becuause it is from US- of AA

What´s so special about this country that claims to be and have everything but cannot afford to give free health care to all its citizens (48 miilion live without social health care...although it is by far the richest country on earth whereas it is free to splash around $TRILLIONS ON SILLY WARS AND BANK BAILOUTS:devil:....

Larga de ser cínico. Provavelmente essa é a primeira tour de uma banda INDEPENDENTE em Moçambique. Se a banda em questão fosse da Austrália, Alemanha, Brasil ou Burkina Fasso eu a faria do mesmo jeito. Procure um psiquiatra.

O que aconteceu é que este Matthias é completamente insano! Caso de hospício mesmo. Ou ele é louco ou anda fumando maconha estragada.

Tens todaa razao de ficares assim oh Lost se a banda fosse pra Angola ele nao estaria a falar essas merdas puxa! Matt porfa pare com isso meu!:ohno:

Evany

Racism is everyhwere...but it is embedded in the US-of A.it is part of the country´s social / genetic fabric...and this is just the tip of the iceberg of what the USA is all about...I cannot talk about the rest in the context of this forum!!!

Still my question has not been answered, if that US-OF AAA band wouldn´t be from that country but let´s say from Canada, UK, France, Brazil, Portugal, Malaysia, Japan or wherever, nobody would have opened an extra thread for it...only becuause it is from US- of AA

What´s so special about this country that claims to be and have everything but cannot afford to give free health care to all its citizens (48 miilion live without social health care...although it is by far the richest country on earth whereas it is free to splash around $TRILLIONS ON SILLY WARS AND BANK BAILOUTS:devil:....

Matt let just call it...US-A for has nothin special and for other's have...but I do agree with that US-A should look more inside then the outside of the states...and fight the real criminals or terrorist that thread hey dear america...I told you the special thing 'bout US-A is human creativity...and Dalalai lama have said too...but anyway...Lost owner of thread is problably super furious that we are make this mess and we have to stop man... I understand your point...is like every country has bad and good things...Angola, Nigeria poor people most of them live in very bad conditions....Brazil is know about is big problem called Rio and São paulo but this both cities are vibrante and as well as beautiful and have pulled out best players of the world...same at europe...get it???and why do you think US-A will be apart of that????when they are rated has one of the countries with more guns to the people???I think that already understand....let just call it for the day matt....:D peace buddy

Larga de ser cínico. Provavelmente essa é a primeira tour de uma banda INDEPENDENTE em Moçambique. Se a banda em questão fosse da Austrália, Alemanha, Brasil ou Burkina Fasso eu a faria do mesmo jeito. Procure um psiquiatra.

Desculpa la Lost não é intenção estragar o teu thread eu ja não respondo mais....paz mano....:oaky: e sorry

Eu pessoalmente gosto muito de Angola porque meus pais sao todos angolanos que fujiram no tempo da guerra e nao sao Mocambicanos, O que eu tentei dizer ai em cima 'e que o Matt nao pode julgar os americanos pelo que a minoria das pessoas sao/fazem, se nao todo mundo diria que os Angolanos sao terroristas porcausa do caso de Cabinda.
Eu sei que os Mozas agiram muito mal em passarem dois dias a comentarem na TV sobre Cabinda e ate em programas de entretenimento tudo era "Angola/Cabinda". mas tambem nao precisa lancar pestes oh Evany!:nuts:

não estou a lançar peste alama...mas são nesses momentos difíceis que se vê quem está do lado de angola...nem o brasil que diz ser tão irmão que encheu a boca(imprensa) de criticas...folha de são paulo....epá é simplesmente triste...mas Deus é Grande e escreve certo por linhas tortas...mas enfim não estou a desejar mal...mas tbm não podiam falar muito...tou so a dizer, uma mão ajuda outra e não ao contrario...

Tens todaa razao de ficares assim oh Lost se a banda fosse pra Angola ele nao estaria a falar essas merdas puxa! Matt porfa pare com isso meu!:ohno:

Se tivesses aqui a mais tempo e se conhecesses o matt através da net irias ver que ele ia fazer a mesma coisa que está a fazer aqui...ele não gosta mesmo do EU não é a primeira vez que ele diz isso dos EU....e so para que fique claro o matt não é angolano mas sim nigeriano.... se fores aos outros foruns vas ver inumeros posts dele... ele comenta e posta cenas de todos ou mais paises africanos...se bem que eu acho que angola deva ser um dos países favoritos em construção..."Eu acho"

Ja se disse tudo oque havia por se dizer e oque nao foi dito consideraremos como dito. Por isso, vamos ja dar por concluido esta questao.


Let's now move on to other stuff.


Peace to all of you...

:)

Se tivesses aqui a mais tempo e se conhecesses o matt através da net irias ver que ele ia fazer a mesma coisa que está a fazer aqui...ele não gosta mesmo do EU não é a primeira vez que ele diz isso dos EU....e so para que fique claro o matt não é angolano mas sim nigeriano.... se fores aos outros foruns vas ver inumeros posts dele... ele comenta e posta cenas de todos ou mais paises africanos...se bem que eu acho que angola deva ser um dos países favoritos em construção..."Eu acho"

Bem, paz manos!, se ele odeia ou sei la deve ser por um motivo bem forte.
Mas nao implica que ele deve incluir todos americanos nem? porque assim estara tambem a ofender todos os amigos americanos que eu tenho, esses mesmo que ate ajudam muito a fundacao que eu estou a fazer parte "nao com migalhas". Desde ja as minhas sinceras desculpas pelos transtornos por mim causados neste thread:)

Larga de ser cínico. Provavelmente essa é a primeira tour de uma banda INDEPENDENTE em Moçambique. Se a banda em questão fosse da Austrália, Alemanha, Brasil ou Burkina Fasso eu a faria do mesmo jeito. Procure um psiquiatra.

America, America, America, America, America, America, america, America...if you are so in love with their culture, go and settle there as simple as that!

I don´t need a psychologist!

I just don´t care with an A-merican band goes to or where not!

They don´t deserve a single thread only because they are from that big "Beast" (with its proxies) who heavily contributed to the destruction of Mozambique and Angola. Instead of sending silly bands, they should send billions for reparation work.:wallbash:

If that band came from Canada, OZ, Japan, you wouldn´t open this thread...only because it is from that feverishly adored country to whose lies the entire world has fallen prey to. Damn:bash:...but as I see you don´t seem to get even at the gist of the problem with your blind adoration and unconditional obdedience to American imperialism. One of their band comes to Africa and everybody has to stand still and stop breathing because it is from the highly untouchable, "super-free, liberal, model-like democratic", externally glossy (but internally rotten) US-of A:ohno:


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Great Baragon, Let´s please close this thread!!!:lock::lock: Thanks:)