http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/africa/02/20/sudan.bashir.darfur/

http://www.ashorooq.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5655:2010-02-20-13-50-10&catid=32:2008-07-30-07-03-25&Itemid=24

lets hope we get peace

:)

lets hope the US doesn't attempt to derail things

:ohno:

the rebel groups are disintegrating

http://www.sudantribune.com/spip.php?article34211

:)

I heard that at last count there were over 120 rebel factions in Darfur. Which means two things: one the strength of the rebel forces is on a decline and two reaching a peace agreement with all these rebel groups is going to become more difficult.

I heard that at last count there were over 120 rebel factions in Darfur. Which means two things: one the strength of the rebel forces is on a decline and two reaching a peace agreement with all these rebel groups is going to become more difficult.

exactly

:nuts:

what is the point of signing a treaty with one rebel group, have the government not learnt from Abuja

:ohno:

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1967050,00.html

And on the explosive question of how to divvy up the vast oil fields that straddle that frontline, the south's minister for presidential affairs, Luca Biong Deng, told the Financial Times this month that his government would continue to split oil revenues 50/50 with the north even after independence.

Really?! Was this part of the CPA?

Really?! Was this part of the CPA?

no this is rubbish, reminisent of when Idi amen offered the British aid. Bol is attempting to mock the North. However, the South will continue to have to pay transit and port fees in reality the South will be more dependent on the North then the North is on the South with out our port they can't get any revenue

:D

IN ANY CASE THE OIL WELLS IN THE South are old

http://www.headlinesafrica.com/index.php?option=com_seyret&Itemid=100360&task=videodirectlink&id=3522

Some details of the JEM agreement are out: JEM leaders will be given government posts in return for a framework peace agreement. In addition several of those arrested in the Um Durman attack and sentenced to death will be pardoned; to date 50% of those arrested have been released (57 total).

Moreover, following the signing of this agreement, 4 other rebel groups in Darfor decided to coalesce into a single group and call themselves the Liberation and Equality Movement. The LEM have also agreed to sign a separate agreement with the Bashir government.

http://www.headlinesafrica.com/index.php?option=com_seyret&Itemid=100360&task=videodirectlink&id=3525

http://www.ashorooq.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5746:-4-&catid=32:2008-07-30-07-03-25&Itemid=24

http://www.ashorooq.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5789&Itemid=24

Correction: the new umbrella rebel group calls themselves the Liberation and Justice Movement (LJM)

http://aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/E8DD367A-1E03-4373-A8FD-DF786AC517EF.htm

a premature declaration

:ohno:

And today the Northern government signed another framework peace agreement with the new umbrella rebel group the Liberation and Justice Movement. We're on a peace agreement signing frenzy aren't we? Does anyone know the sizes of the different groups. I want to know whether or not to get excited about all this. For example, if there are 50,000 rebel soldiers, do JEM soldiers constitute 40,000 of them or just 10,000 of them. There's quite a bit of difference.

Also, I very much hope that these agreements include clauses for rapid disarmament of civilians and former rebels in Darfur. South Sudan has already started disarming tribesmen:

http://www.headlinesafrica.com/index.php?option=com_seyret&Itemid=100315&task=videodirectlink&id=3426

Moreover, I'm not a fan of the absorption of former rebels into the national or a regional army. I think if at all possible they should be given the option to retrain and enter a peaceful line of work.

Anyway, details:
http://www.sudantribune.com/spip.php?article34264

the rebels in all constitute 10,000 individuals, but you wouldn't think so by the headache they cause. jem has 5000 fighters abdul wahid has 2500 and the rest have an additional 2500.

this is according to the recent small arms survey report
http://www.smallarmssurvey.org/files/portal/spotlight/sudan/Sudan_pdf/SIB-15-arms-flows-and-holdings-in-Sudan.pdf

the rebels in Darfur do not represent a popular uprising as they like to claim this is not Darfur rebelling as they claim but a few individuals. The popularity of rebels in Darfur is extremely marginal. Therefore any deal that would see some one like khalil taking the Goverership of one of Darfur's states would be a betrayal of its people.

in any case from now any one in a government possition should be elected. I advocate allowing the rebels to stand in elections

lets see how popular they really are

;)

That's a great document kitayabi, thanks for sharing.
I agree that ideally positions like governor of a state should be elected and not appointed. Unfortunately I doubt that rebel leaders would be willing to give up their leadership positions without something concrete in exchange. For instance, I doubt that being given the option to be an election candidate would be enough compensation. On the other hand I think giving out high government positions willy-nilly to appease the opposition is a very slippery slope.

If the rebel groups really are that few in number, a more strategic and better equipped government could have ended this ordeal long ago.

That's a great document kitayabi, thanks for sharing.
I agree that ideally positions like governor of a state should be elected and not appointed. Unfortunately I doubt that rebel leaders would be willing to give up their leadership positions without something concrete in exchange. For instance, I doubt that being given the option to be an election candidate would be enough compensation. On the other hand I think giving out high government positions willy-nilly to appease the opposition is a very slippery slope.

If the rebel groups really are that few in number, a more strategic and better equipped government could have ended this ordeal long ago.

If the rebel groups really are that few in number, a more strategic and better equipped government could have ended this ordeal long ago.

The Government is conflicted they want to deal with the rebels militarily but yet will pull back their troops at the first sign of criticism, allowing the rebels to reorganise themselves.:ohno:

What worries me is the culture that is being established in Sudan, it seems that if you get your self a few hundred fighters half of those probably kids you can hold the state to ransom. Sudan has 600 ethnic groups where exactly will this end.

the message being sent out is that if you want something from the state you have to raise up arms.

:bash: