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null February 26th, 2010, 09:58 AM Some Statistical maps collected from internet, taken from various sources.
You are free to add more maps found on the web.
Megacities - Growth in Megacities 1950-2015
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/world_maps/megacities_1950_2015.jpg
'One Milllion' Cities in 2006
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/41/2006megacities.PNG
Supercities 2002
http://www.megacities.uni-koeln.de/documentation/megacity/map/MC-2015-PGM.jpg
'Qualified' Megacities
http://www.ucar.edu/communications/staffnotes/9904/World.JPG
CITIES WITH POPULATIONS OF MORE THAN 10 MILLION (MEGACITIES)
http://www.fao.org/docrep/W9500E/w9500e24.gif
diz February 26th, 2010, 10:08 AM What the hell?
Portland, OR can't be a '1 million' city!
That would mean at least 1/3 of the whole state lives there.
Anderson Geimz February 26th, 2010, 12:53 PM So many maps and not one of them correct. I like the first one though, now if only they could get their definitions right and comparable.
staff February 26th, 2010, 04:28 PM Beijing is already at 22 million and rapidly growing. Shanghai is probably approaching 30 million soon.
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2010-02/26/content_9511839.htm
Beijing's population exceeds 22 million
By Qi Xiao (chinadaily.com.cn)
Updated: 2010-02-26 17:22
Beijing's total population has exceeded 22 million, a mark that is supposed to be surpassed a decade later, the China National Radio reported today.
According to Beijing's latest "overall plan", the city should control the number of population at 18 million by the end of 2020. However, the combined population of permanent and non-permanent residents currently already exceeds 22 million, with the latter standing at eight to nine million, the report said.
The non-permanent residents will keep increasing rapidly, the report added.
monkeyronin February 26th, 2010, 05:47 PM Where are Paris, London, and Moscow in the 10+ million cities? (and nevermind the first image, that seems to be missing most of the world's megacities. I'm assuming that was intentional though)
Portland, OR can't be a '1 million' city!
That would mean at least 1/3 of the whole state lives there.
Why can 1/3 of the state not live there? Thats the case in many other states. And remember that its metro spreads into Washington.
And for the record, the 2009 metro estimate is 2,159,720.
But I'm seeing some cities missing from that chart too...Edmonton, Valencia, Oslo, etc.
hudkina February 26th, 2010, 07:01 PM What the hell?
Portland, OR can't be a '1 million' city!
That would mean at least 1/3 of the whole state lives there.
A large portion of Portland's urban population lives in neighboring Washington.
DiggerD21 February 26th, 2010, 08:54 PM But I'm seeing some cities missing from that chart too...Edmonton, Valencia, Oslo, etc.
Only cities with more than 1 million inhabitants within the municipal area are counted in that map.
Edmonton: ca. 782.000 inhabitants
Valencia (Spain): ca. ca.805.000 inhabitants
Oslo: ca. 580.000 inhabitants
Anderson Geimz February 26th, 2010, 09:16 PM Only cities with more than 1 million inhabitants within the municipal area are counted in that map.
Edmonton: ca. 782.000 inhabitants
Valencia (Spain): ca. ca.805.000 inhabitants
Oslo: ca. 580.000 inhabitants
Then why are there A LOT of cities marked that also don't have 1 million in the city proper?
A short sample:
Helsinki, Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Lille, Lyon, Marseille, Porto, Lisbon, Athens, Dublin, Stockholm.
ALL cities in the UK except London.
ALL cities in Germany except Berlin, Hamburg and Munich
ALL cities in the US except NY, LA, Chicago, Philly, Houston, Dallas, Phoenix, San Antonio, San Jose and San Diego
ALL cities in Australia/NZ
Plus there are also 1 million cities that are not on the map:
Yokohama, Kawasaki, Kobe, Kyoto...
Chicagoago February 26th, 2010, 09:18 PM Only cities with more than 1 million inhabitants within the municipal area are counted in that map.
Edmonton: ca. 782.000 inhabitants
Valencia (Spain): ca. ca.805.000 inhabitants
Oslo: ca. 580.000 inhabitants
No they're not. A majority of the USA's cities have less than 1,000,000 people. They're counting the urban areas.
Also - I'm pretty sure Portland has 2.2 million in the metro, so it's well over 1 million.
The Oregon portion is around 1.6 million - or roughly 42% of the state's population.
Anderson Geimz February 26th, 2010, 09:28 PM They're counting the urban areas.
If so, they're doing it in a very apples to oranges way. Not that urban area is an accurate measure of a city anyway.
brisavoine February 26th, 2010, 10:45 PM Where are Paris, London, and Moscow in the 10+ million cities? (and nevermind the first image, that seems to be missing most of the world's megacities. I'm assuming that was intentional though)
For the first map, regarding Paris, if they mean the urban areas (excluding the satellite cities and commuter belts), then the urban area of Paris had 6.1 million inhabitants in 1950, 9.8 million in 2000, and at the current growth rate it will have 10.9 million inhabitants in 2015.
If they mean the metropolitan areas, then the Paris metropolitan area had 6.1 million inhabitants in 1950 (same population as the urban area, because there were no satellite cities and no commuter belt at the time), 11.3 million in 2000, and at the current growth rate it will have 12.6 million inhabitants in 2015 (according to the rather conservative French definition of metropolitan areas).
poshbakerloo February 26th, 2010, 11:01 PM ooooh this is interesting, but is it accurate?
DiggerD21 February 26th, 2010, 11:05 PM Now I see, that you are right. It must be urban areas. But Anderson Geimz is right too:
If so, they're doing it in a very apples to oranges way. Not that urban area is an accurate measure of a city anyway.
Some cities have rural areas within their municipal borders, other cities have lots of urban area around the municipality. And then there is the problem of what exactly defines an urban area. Where is the border between urban and rural area? And how to count an urban area which includes at least two similar sized cities?
Anderson Geimz February 26th, 2010, 11:35 PM Using urban area will always favour low density sprawling cities like in North America or Australia and underestimate well defined compact cities with green belts like in Europe.
Anyway, using metro area will give you 50 over 1m in the US (plus 6 more in Canada), about 100 over 1m in Europe (85 in the EU alone) and some 234 over 1m in China.
abrandao February 26th, 2010, 11:49 PM There are at least 4 urban agglomerations with >1 million people missing in the map that shows Brazil.
brisavoine February 27th, 2010, 12:05 AM ooooh this is interesting, but is it accurate?
What is?
poshbakerloo February 27th, 2010, 12:59 AM What is?
the maps...
Dimethyltryptamine February 27th, 2010, 01:47 AM Australian cities never make it on to any map :lol:. Maybe in a few hundred years we'll have a 20mil+ city ;)
Calvin W February 27th, 2010, 02:41 AM Australian cities never make it on to any map :lol:. Maybe in a few hundred years we'll have a 20mil+ city ;)
Well technically Perth has a city population of what 20,000? The CBD is basically the city limits. The metro is made up of tens of cities, town, and shires.
deranged February 27th, 2010, 02:58 AM If so, they're doing it in a very apples to oranges way. Not that urban area is an accurate measure of a city anyway.
Exactly.
The urban area population clearly does not represent the true extent of a city. (And don't even bother with city proper...)
In addition, the UN maps are absolute garbage. :ohno:
The UN's list of "urban agglomerations", upon which some of those maps are based, is a combination of urban areas, metropolitan areas and cities proper, as shown here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_urban_agglomerations_by_population_%28United_Nations%29).
Yes I realise it's Wikipedia, but it is directly from the UN reference.
deranged February 27th, 2010, 03:05 AM Although the following lists are not perfect, they are far more accurate and consistent than the UN list. The website www.citypopulation.de includes an interactive map.
WORLD'S LARGEST METROPOLITAN AREAS
World Gazetteer (http://world-gazetteer.com/wg.php?x=1&men=gcis&lng=en&des=gamelan&col=abcdefghinoq&msz=1500&pt=a&va=&srt=pnao) (2010)
CityPopulation.de (http://www.citypopulation.de/world/Agglomerations.html) (2010)
PopulationData.net (http://www.populationdata.net/palmaresvilles.php) (various)
Largest metro areas in Europe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_metropolitan_areas_in_Europe_by_population) (various)
Anderson Geimz February 27th, 2010, 02:17 PM I always liked ESPON the best.
staff February 27th, 2010, 04:17 PM edit.
poshbakerloo February 27th, 2010, 04:45 PM Although the following lists are not perfect, they are far more accurate and consistent than the UN list. The website www.citypopulation.de includes an interactive map.
WORLD'S LARGEST METROPOLITAN AREAS
World Gazetteer (http://world-gazetteer.com/wg.php?x=1&men=gcis&lng=en&des=gamelan&col=abcdefghinoq&msz=1500&pt=a&va=&srt=pnao) (2010)
They count Manchester and Liverpool as one? Did they count JC in with NYC?
ukiyo February 27th, 2010, 06:40 PM Is that Shanghai number correct? I would expect it to be much higher.. Shanghai looks so massive!
Chrissib February 27th, 2010, 06:55 PM Is that Shanghai number correct? I would expect it to be much higher.. Shanghai looks so massive!
If all New Yorkers would live in highrises, for sure NYC would look very massive, too.
staff February 27th, 2010, 08:45 PM Is that Shanghai number correct? I would expect it to be much higher.. Shanghai looks so massive!
Which Shanghai number?
Refer to my post above yours-- Beijing, the second largest city in China, has surpassed 22 million inhabitants. Shanghai is probably approaching 30 million.
deranged February 28th, 2010, 02:53 AM They count Manchester and Liverpool as one? Did they count JC in with NYC?
Some lists do and others don't - I suppose they use different criteria.
But Jersey City and New York are basically separated only by the Hudson river, so they're not comparable to Manchester and Liverpool.
Is that Shanghai number correct? I would expect it to be much higher.. Shanghai looks so massive!
Not in the links I posted - undercounting is a problem with the figures for Chinese cities in all of the above lists.
Raffo February 28th, 2010, 04:13 AM They counted Juarez and El Paso as one city, even tho they are in different countries :nuts:
HK999 February 28th, 2010, 11:29 AM Which Shanghai number?
Refer to my post above yours-- Beijing, the second largest city in China, has surpassed 22 million inhabitants. Shanghai is probably approaching 30 million.
no, shanghai has ~25 mill inhabitants as for now, including illegal immigrants. it will take a few more years till it reaches 30 mill, my guess: 2015 (if you take the rough estimate of 1 mill people coming to shanghai every year, but then again some stay and some go home).
the spliff fairy February 28th, 2010, 01:03 PM Is Shanghai (at right) connected up to Suzhou (population 6.3 million, at right of the lake)? That is the question.
btw for all the cities here, the urban population is about 55 million
http://www.iseis.cuhk.edu.hk/groundstation/event/shanghi.jpg
the spliff fairy February 28th, 2010, 01:10 PM Also population over 30 million - Guangzhou-Foshan-Dongguan-Shenzhen contiguous, with 45 million metro (in an area smaller than LA).
If you were to include HK this would in fact be the biggest city in the world, but because of the border it isn't normally included:
http://www.geocarto.com/images/P-107_large.jpg http://www.chinabusinessreview.com/public/0305/images/lemancallout7.gif
The connection here:
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=shenzhen&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=24.670754,43.813477&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Shenzhen,+Guangdong,+China&ll=22.895153,113.57666&spn=1.195497,1.369171&t=k&z=10
Chrissib February 28th, 2010, 05:56 PM Yes. maybe a few years, then the Pearl River Delta will merge into one metropolitan area, the only one who can compete with Tokyo who the number one is.
Chrissib February 28th, 2010, 07:19 PM I also made a map, source is citypopulation.de, definitions are sometimes out of administrative boundaries.
http://www.bilderload.com/bild/29432/ballungsraeumewachstum2009FLKFD.png
aaabbbccc February 28th, 2010, 11:03 PM Now in Morocco they are telling us they overestimated the populations of the country and the cities
casablanca is the 129th largest metro area in the world and the largest in Morocco
I used to hear all types of crazy stats and some people in casablanca though the area had up to 20 million people hard to believe that
after extensive research and census Greater casablanca is not more than 4 million people
staff March 1st, 2010, 03:13 AM no, shanghai has ~25 mill inhabitants as for now, including illegal immigrants. it will take a few more years till it reaches 30 mill, my guess: 2015 (if you take the rough estimate of 1 mill people coming to shanghai every year, but then again some stay and some go home).
I used the word "approaching", so while it hasn't surpassed 30 million just yet, it will in a matter of years.
deranged March 1st, 2010, 05:08 AM I also made a map, source is citypopulation.de, definitions are sometimes out of administrative boundaries.
http://www.bilderload.com/bild/29432/ballungsraeumewachstum2009FLKFD.png
Terrific work. :applause:
null March 1st, 2010, 12:18 PM http://nordpil.com/static/images/world_cities_map.png
Anderson Geimz March 1st, 2010, 01:41 PM Nice but lacking.
Where's Barcelona for instance?
Hebrewtext March 1st, 2010, 03:45 PM http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/4653/lightseuropelrg.gif
Ian March 1st, 2010, 03:59 PM Santiago less than 1 million??? :nuts:
It belongs to the big circle!! more than 5...
brisavoine March 1st, 2010, 04:04 PM I also made a map, source is citypopulation.de, definitions are sometimes out of administrative boundaries.
You've got to update your map for Madrid and Barcelona. They are now not growing as fast as on your map. In 2009 the province of Madrid grew by only 0.65%. The province of Barcelona grew by only 0.12%.
See: http://www.ine.es/jaxiBD/tabla.do?per=01&type=db&divi=EPOB&idtab=6
stefano1895 March 2nd, 2010, 02:13 AM wow mexico city is in all the maps
Justme March 2nd, 2010, 02:52 PM Using urban area will always favour low density sprawling cities like in North America or Australia and underestimate well defined compact cities with green belts like in Europe.
Anyway, using metro area will give you 50 over 1m in the US (plus 6 more in Canada), about 100 over 1m in Europe (85 in the EU alone) and some 234 over 1m in China.
Very well said.
Alexriga March 2nd, 2010, 09:40 PM Please, delete first maps, they are totally awful, seems some pupil draw them.
Helsinki has 550 000 for example etc. etc. All of them have so many mistakes even useless to mention, those maps are wrong. Delete them now!
Anderson Geimz March 2nd, 2010, 10:28 PM Please, delete first maps, they are totally awful, seems some pupil draw them.
Helsinki has 550 000 for example etc. etc. All of them have so many mistakes even useless to mention, those maps are wrong. Delete them now!
I agree that the maps are awful but Helsinki actually has 1.3 million in its metro area, which is the only usefull measure to have a somewhat fair comparison to other cities.
Chrissib March 7th, 2010, 10:04 AM You've got to update your map for Madrid and Barcelona. They are now not growing as fast as on your map. In 2009 the province of Madrid grew by only 0.65%. The province of Barcelona grew by only 0.12%.
See: http://www.ine.es/jaxiBD/tabla.do?per=01&type=db&divi=EPOB&idtab=6
I used the average growth rate from the last census, spain had one at the beginning of the 2000s.
olhol March 7th, 2010, 12:53 PM What the hell?
Portland, OR can't be a '1 million' city!
That would mean at least 1/3 of the whole state lives there.
Same with Helsinki which is about 600.000 , but no Riga which is 750.000 :))
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