It is very likely that Australia has at least two massive weapons of mass destruction (ya for us) and they have been here for a while.

If they really are what information suggest then one exists at Exmouth while the other strategically at Pine Gap, these are not simple missile installations but rather massive ultraviolet lasers and plasma particle accelerator or EM wave pulse canons capable of producing massive electrical disturbances, earthquakes and devastation both on earth and outerspace. Others have been suggested at a remote sheep station in Banjawarn and another in NSW.

Very little information exists on these two clandestine bases... the Harold Holt Naval Base and the Pine Gap facility, all are shrouded in mystery and very few actually know what they are used for exactly.

We do know that Exmouth has a massive installation of tall antennaes one of which was the tallest in the southern hemisphere, clustered around it are many additional antennnae... supposedly related to recharging and and communicating with submarines in the western pacific and eastern indian ocean.

Pine gap on the other hand has most of its hardware located underground with small domes dotting the landscape and not much else visible. It was reported that massive and deep tunnels and cores exist around the area that support massive underground em antennae arrays. Pine Gap we do know has massive computer hardware installed by IBM, massive areas filled with very powerful systems and we also know that the facility monitors information transmission from all over the world to gain intelligence. The base has direct links to Spy satellites and is reffered to as the primary base in the world for this type of action.

It is also remoured that a possible Russian defence members successfully produced an EM forcefield generated in a Western Australian Sheep station that covered Sydney's metro from alien and incontiental ballisic missile attacks - this was shown to Japenese government officials keen to protect nuclear facilities in Japan.

Fact or Fiction... there have been many reports of strange and inexplicable events which these two bases have been linked. Including Starwars like battles between UFOs in orbit, filmed by the Space Shuttle!

Some of the information below is just a suggestion of what is going on... articles exist that recount many tests of thf Tesla weapons and many eyewitness accounts that point to their existence.

Harold Holt Naval Base - Array
http://www.bom.gov.au/bmrc/wefor/research/array3.jpg
Pine Gap
http://www.rense.com/1.imagesB/thegap.jpg

PINE GAP "The United States has three major bases in Australia. One is in South Australia (Nurranger, near Woomera, T.N.), another in New South Wales, and the third (and by far the largest) is located within about 230 km (143 miles) of the geographical center of the continent, not far to the west of Alice Springs (Northern Territory), at the foothills of the southern slopes of the MacDonnell Range. This base is completely underground, with barely visible entrances to the surface. "This 'Top Secret' base is entirely financed by the United States Government, and is officially known as the Joint Defense Space Research Facility.

"When the JDSRF was first initiated, its aim was scientific research for the supposed development of a space defense technology. It is now known that since its inception, its primary purpose was research into electromagnetic propulsion. "What exactly is Pine Gap? As strange as it may seem, even Australian Federal Parliament members do not know. Among the Cabinet members, only a small number of 'initiates' have a vague idea of what this is all about. The only information source available to the public is the cross-checking done by private researchers such as Jimmy Guieu, following statements made by the United States or Australian magazines (always very short and terse paragraphs), and anything the locals may notice. "It is said that under Pine Gap is the deepest drilling hole in Australia - about 5 miles (more than 8,000 meters). Such a hole is likely used as an underground antenna able to recharge the batteries of submarines in the Pacific and Indian Ocean through ELF broadcasts. Such a gigantic antenna could be used to generate(more than 8,000 meters). Such a hole is likely used for:

"Some say that Pine Gap has an enormous nuclear generator to supply energy to a new type of transceiver. It seems too that there is a high-powered, high-voltage plasma accelerator which may be put to use to transmit electric current, or even to produce a 'death-ray', or quite simply to feed a plasma gun. All this is not as incredible as it sounds: it is now known that the US base of West Cape, near Exmouth Gulf in Western Australia (Harold E. Holt USN Communication Station), has an older type of the transceiver used at Pine Gap which is used to send electric current to submerged US submarines who trail a wire antenna. It is known that electric currents transmitted in this way are referred to as plasmo-dynamic cells.

"Several times, locals have seen WHITE DISKS about 30' in diameter in the process of being unloaded from large US cargo planes at the airports serving Pine Gap. Those disks had the USAF emblem on them. It seems likely that disks are assembled and based at Pine Gap. The number of disks seen at night leaves no doubt in anyone's mind. An amazing quantity of furniture has been delivered by plane from the United States. The locals also say that an enormous amount of food is stocked in warehouses of what could well be a true multi-leveled underground city.

"On the other hand, Pine Gap is well known as one of the most important control centers for spy satellites which circle the globe. An article published in late 1973 claimed that the Pine centers for spy satellites which circle the globe. An article published in late 1973 claimed that the Pine Gap installation, along with its sister installation in Guam, "Pine Gap has enormous computers which are connected to their American and Australian central counterparts, which collect all the information secured in these countries, not only about finance and technology, but on every aspect of the life of the average citizen. Those computers at Pine Gap are also evidently connected to similar mainframes in Guam, in Krugersdorp South Africa, and at the Amundsen-Scott US base at the South Pole.

"Let us say, incidentally, that the employees (more than 1200) of the US base in South Africa all claim to be members of the US consular mission in that country. It may be worthy of note that the Amundsen-Scott base at the South Pole is located on a sensitive magnetic spot of our planet, that it holds exactly the same assets as Pine Gap, and that all the information about most of the average citizens of Western Europe is stored there in memory banks tens of meters under the icepack.

"A statement made by the Australian premier about 1987, assuring that 'France must disappear from the Pacific, from the Kerguelen Ridge, and from Antarctica' sheds light on the importance of this polar base for the Anglo-Saxon world.

"The most disquieting fact about Pine Gap may be that the employees working on the base, and especially those earmarked for duty on electromagnetic propulsion projects, have undergone brainwashing and even implantation of intracranial devices. Those employees have turned into unconditional slaves of their master, whoever he is. Rather scary, isn't it?

"The true point of the brainwashing of those individuals, along with the ruthless attempts to implement the cover-up of really advanced military technology, will become attempts to implement the cover-up.

"For me, it all began with the construction of the new Parliament building in Canberra, which cost billions of dollars. Australia has only 18 million inhabitants, yet it apparently treated itself to a building far beyond its means...supposedly to accommodate its government even if the old Parliament building was perfectly fine.

"This new building, enormous, immense and magnificent would easily fit the needs of the USSR or of the United States, which both have hundreds of millions of citizens to rule. That building puzzled me, and I started to talk about it until the day I bumped into an Englishman who told me that the Australian premier, Bob Hawk, was a Rhodes scholar, and as such he worked toward the setting up of a One World Government, and that this new Parliament building likely had something to do with it.

"Sometime after, I stumbled on a pamphlet published by the Human Rights Organization, which talked about a group of about a hundred people well-placed in high finance, politics, the judiciary branch and big business. This group was called the 'Club of ROME'. According to this pamphlet, the CLUB OF ROME was pledged to a consortium which controls all international finance. A number of other groups similar to the CLUB OF ROME are equally pledged to that finance consortium, AND ARE INFILTRATING THE VARIOUS POLITICAL AND RELIGIOUS GROUPS WITH THE INTENTION TO MAKE PROGRESS TOWARD THE INSTITUTION OF A WORLD DICTATORSHIP.

"The whole thing looked a little bit too preposterous to be true, it seemed to me. Nevertheless, a friend of mine gave me an audio cassette taped at a lecture given by Peter Sawyer, a former high-ranking Australian civil servant, which exposed a certain number of facts he had noticed while in office.Nevertheless, a friend of mine gave me an audio cassette taped at a lecture given by Peter Sawyer, a former high-ranking Australia(ft. ? - Branton) thick walls, cost hundreds of millions of dollars. It is outfitted with numerous computers, arrayed on four levels. When he tried to find out why such equipment was needed in a country of only 18 million, he discovered that those computers were connected to all the banks, to every post office, to all telephones, and to all of the police stations and customs houses; to every arrival and departure desk for air or sea travellers; and also and above all, to the other data centers collecting data on private citizens... in the United States as well as in Europe.

"That facility at Deakin is therefore a Center where all the data pertaining to every citizen of the Western World end up being stored. All financial, economic, political and military information, as well as the information on every inhabitant of those countries. As a matter of course, all people living in Australia are put on file, kept up with and labelled.

"Peter Sawyer discovered also that the president of the ROCKEFELLER FOUNDATION came for a lengthy stay in Australia to supervise in person the construction of 20 luxury residences in Canberra (the Australian government footed the bill), in the wonderful setting of a National Park, where, legally, nobody is allowed to build.

"The investigations lead by Sawyer exposed, first, that the new Parliament building is meant to accommodate the world government-to-be; and, second, that the 20 luxury residences will be allocated to the different foreign members of that government... Why choose Canberra as the headquarters of the new world government? Simply because Australia is a peaceful country, with very few natives likely to turn rebellious, and, above all, it's an English speaking country. No other English speaking country can offer the safety Australia will provide at the time of the taking over by the World Government. In Ammeant to accommodate the world government-to-be; and, second, that the 20 luxury residences will be allocated to the different foreign members of that government... Why choose.

"Australia is thus the ideal place for such an undertaking. How is the advent of a World Government possible in the near future? It is relatively easy, as we will explain.

"First, who are those 'internationalists' who want to take over the planet? THE ONES WHO WANT TO SET UP A WORLD GOVERNMENT ARE 15 FAMILIES OR SO, WHO ALREADY GOVERN ALL OF INTERNATIONAL FINANCE AND KEEP A TIGHT LEASH ON MOST GOVERNMENTS THROUGH THE ABSOLUTE CONTROL OF THEIR FINANCES AND THEIR DOMESTIC ECONOMY. These finance moguls devised their plan after World War I, and have been working since on an insidious undermining process aimed at economic destabilization all over the West.

"If those financiers are obviously labeled 'capitalists', it is a very deceptive label, though, for, in fact, they never stopped to pull the strings of the progressive parties, as well as those of the conservative parties. Their idea is logical, and lay, quite simply, in the destabilization of the countries of the West on the political, economic and religious levels. IT MAY BE SURPRISING TO SOME THAT THESE 'INNOVATORS' HAD INFILTRATED THE TOP LEVELS OF THE MAIN RELIGIOUS ESTABLISHMENTS, ONLY A SMALL NUMBER OF YEARS WAS NEEDED TO MAKE THEM VIRTUALLY POWERLESS... (Were these establishments 'bought out' through financial contributions? - Branton)

"Economic destabilization is implemented through a slower but most efficient process. This process (already under way) will cause the entire financial system of the West to collapse. The people involved are the same people who cause the price of oil to go up and then, after convincing European neighbors to agree to these price rises, provide that the yield coming from the price rises will be paid to the 'International Reserve Bank', which is entirely at their command. The Reserve Bank hands the money over to a 'holding bank' who lavishly loans the money to Third World countries for usurious rates of interest.

"The holding bank receives the interest paid by the underdeveloped countries, then puts it into another 'holding bank' which, in turn, invests the huge quantity of money on behalf of the Arabs.

"Those investments are made into thriving large businesses. In the meantime, only small interests are sent to Arab countries.

"Those who engineered the plan were perfectly aware that the leaders of the underdeveloped countries would be tempted to pocket a good part of the received money.

"I IRB will then tell the Arab countries that the holding bank investments have turned out badly, all their assets had vanished and that no interest will be paid any more. The Arab countries will then have no choice but to put all the securities they own on the market, as well as quite anout badly, all their assets had vanished and that no interest will be paid any more. The Arab countries will then have no choice but to put all the securities they own on the market, as well as quite an amount of property bought by the second holding bank. A good part of these possessions will then be frozen, because they will have been bought with the aid of not entirely repaid loans, and they will be part of the assets of the first holding bank, gone bankrupt.

"The planet will find itself in a desperate predicament. Cash will not be worth a damn, and the risks of a global confrontation (planned!) will be high.

ENTER PINE GAP ~ "At this point, the usefulness of bases like Pine Gap will become obvious. If a Global confrontation is going to break out, those bases will serve as a place of safety for the politicians and their staff, as well as the international financiers, their family and friends.

These are most interesting...
http://www.pip.com.au/~paceman/BRIGHTSKIES1.html
http://www.alphalink.com.au/~noelmcd/lostlink/esoteric.htm

EXMOUTH Tx FIREBALL WEAPONS AND ORBITAL UFOs
There is of course another possible scenario that could be contributing to government silence.

Richard Hoagland, ex-NASA employee and space archaeologist media personality, released some spectacular NASA video footage that was shot from an American space shuttle mission in September 1991. This video was downlinked by radio from the shuttle to a NASA ground station in the US and was accidentally intercepted en route by a ham radio operator in the US.

Subsequent to this intercept and its public distribution by the radio ham, NASA initially encrypted and then totally ceased further shuttle video transmissions.

The shuttle was said by Hoagland to be in orbit over Indonesia, heading south towards Western Australia. Subsequent research by Australian and New Zealand UFO groups demonstrates that the shuttle was in fact over Lake Carnegie in central Western Australia, heading south-southeast. [See report in NEXUS 3/03.]

The video shows a small white-light UFO that appears over the Earth's horizon to the east of Australia and flies north at a speed of some 54,000 mph (this and subsequent data are according to Hoagland's calculations). Suddenly the upper atmosphere or ionosphere below the shuttle flashes with an intense white light. The UFO appears to sense this flash and immediately executes a 180-degree, 14,000-g-force turn, accelerating out of orbit and away from the planet at some 200,000 mph.

All of the above manoeuvres occur in a second or so, and are immediately followed in a microsecond by two very-high-speed, bright-light energy pulses riding straight (but fainter) light beams from the planet's surface below the shuttle, projected up to a spot where the UFO would have been had it not reacted so violently to the initial upper atmospheric light flash.

The Australian and New Zealand UFO research teams claim that beam pulse number one came from Exmouth in northwestern WA, and beam pulse number two came from around Alice Springs, NT, near the Joint Defence Space Research Facility at Pine Gap.

Hoagland believes this video demonstrates a US test of the Brilliant Pebbles particle-beam weapon system, aimed at a super- secret US antigravity-drive spacecraft/drone. The same video shows a few other orbital lights that are presumably also UFOs.

Recently I was contacted by an Onslow, WA, resident who had read the first two parts of this "Bright Skies" series. He reported that his son had been totally spooked in late 1991 whilst out roo-shooting one night south of Onslow on the Crow Plains, some 80 km southeast of the Exmouth Tx site. The son and another shooter had observed huge blue-green-white fireballs form at ground level and fire off into space along a light beam at a steep angle and at an ever-accelerating velocity.

The fireballs were seen at ground level to the northwest, and a reconstruction places them exactly in line with the Exmouth Tx site. They almost certainly originated from the VLF Tx site at the Harold E. Holt Naval Communications Station at the Exmouth base. Fireballs were seen on several nights and had previously been reported by the owner of the sheep station in this area.

The ground eyewitness reports couple well with the Hoagland space shuttle video and the antipodean UFO research teams' findings. The data collectively demonstrate that the Exmouth base is indeed a deployment site of a major EM weapon system that can at the very least create and fire EM plasma energy pulses into space. The data also explain the strange upper-atmospheric light flashes seen as large-area events over WA and other parts of Australia.

It was this type of event occurring below the space shuttle that appeared to cause the UFO to turn and run. I postulate that this event was a Tesla Energy Magnifying Transmitter 'warming up' and energising the ionosphere-to-Earth ground-space cavity as a prelude to EM weapon pulse firing. The EM fireball plasma energy pulse was presumably shot skywards along an improved Grindell H. Mathews ultraviolet laser beam that 'cleared' the way, creating a conducting path through the atmosphere for propagation of the Tesla EM energy slug. Unfortunately for the Exmouth weapons team, the UFO was a slight technological jump ahead of their pulse weapon.

I remain unconvinced by Hoagland's explanations of the action in this NASA video being a weapon test against an American UFO spacecraft/drone. The UFO demonstrates some very advanced abilities, and although I can accept that the USA is technologically advanced, I really have to wonder if this UFO is truly of US origin or whether it is more likely to be of alien, off-planet design and manufacture.

The origin of this particular UFO is of great importance since this Hoagland/NASA video could indicate that a state of war exists between the USA (and, by default, Australia) and an off-planet alien power. Such an alien state of affairs could well explain (but not condone) the government and media silence on recent fireball and exotic light-emission events.

However, other data and intelligence point more towards an exchange of fire with advanced technology craft operated by other Earthbound powers in a secret oligarchic war that has been evolving around us for several years.

One thing is totally certain: the Hoagland video does not show a series of ice particles flying past the shuttle, as NASA would have us believe. My own research conclusions about fireballs, explosions and seismic events are genuine, honest attempts to understand their causes. If more resources were thrown into the work, my conclusions could eventually turn out to be incorrect. But they pale into insignificance alongside NASA's eloquent but obvious fairy stories.

I just wanna see pics of pretty flowers when I come to this site.

I just wanna see pics of pretty flowers when I come to this site.

LOL what? All this stuff is really food for thought... I am not sure what to beleive, it all seems so far-fetched but then it all seems too real and probable.

What type of flowers would you like to see... I guess not ones related to EM pulse plasma particle weapons?

Any pretty, pretty ones. As long as they aren't chemically induced mutants that have a human eye looking at us.

I did read the articles through Avy, and it IS food for thought. Thankyou for posting them. This stuff is very, very important to understand, read between the lines and form opinions.

It is very likely that Australia has at least two massive weapons of mass destruction (ya for us) and they have been here for a while.
Yeah - Fabian and Chrisaus. ;)

Yeah - Fabian and Chrisaus. ;)

Nice to see you making light of my serious post lol :colgate:

It is very serious stuff Bondy!!!

:rofl:

Ohhhhh . . . OK.

Well since you have weapons of mass destruction, this means you'll be able to implement my Evil Plan easier. :)

I was expecting to read Kylie Minogue and Germain Greer or something like that.

Seriously Avatar, I found this stuff at a conspiracy theory website years ago. It's all a load of crap as far as I'm concerned. You only have to look at the other articles you generally find in the company of this one to get an idea of the themes they are pushing and their target audience.

If people believe man never landed on the moon, there are aliens on the dark side of the moon, tunnels deep under Mt St Helens to underground cities and a face and pyramids on Mars than this article is for them. Typical Nexus readers.

I was expecting to read Kylie Minogue and Germain Greer or something like that.

Seriously Avatar, I found this stuff at a conspiracy theory website years ago. It's all a load of crap as far as I'm concerned. You only have to look at the other articles you generally find in the company of this one to get an idea of the themes they are pushing and their target audience.

If people believe man never landed on the moon, there are aliens on the dark side of the moon, tunnels deep under Mt St Helens to underground cities and a face and pyramids on Mars than this article is for them. Typical Nexus readers.

I know alot of it sounds crazy... but there is alot of plausiblity to some of this and alot of people testifying to strange phenomenon. Haha not all of this was originally from nexus some of the articles were appropriated later. The world government and working with aliens is a little extraneous but I firmly believe the teslar energy weapons... as if the world is not more advanced than all of us know, developments in computers has been frightening so likewise I'd expect secret millitary hardware to advance at a similar rate.

I know alot of it sounds crazy... but there is alot of plausiblity to some of this and alot of people testifying to strange phenomenon. Haha not all of this was originally from nexus some of the articles were appropriated later. The world government and working with aliens is a little extraneous but I firmly believe the teslar energy weapons... as if the world is not more advanced than all of us know, developments in computers has been frightening so likewise I'd expect secret millitary hardware to advance at a similar rate.
Yeah, the teslar stuff is always interesting, but when it comes to conspiracy theories, the perpetrators/creators of the myth tend to throw around a few technical terms and quote a few supposedly reputable sources that convince the majority of people to believe they know what they are talking about (even though it only takes one good scientist to blow it all away.......but the minute somebody addresses these issues it proves that they have something to hide according to the conspiracy theorists, and when nobody says anything that also proves they have something to hide -- conspicuous by their silence).
lol.
I think the so called moon hoax is the best case in point. Lots of people have been suckered into believing man never went to the moon because of radiation. It's even funnier when they suggest a metre and a half thick encasing of lead is needed to protect you from it.

Yes, if you like flying around in a microwave.

Is noone interested in our weapons of mass destruction?

How can you not be... this is earth shattering... literally!

"A statement made by the Australian premier about 1987, assuring that 'France must disappear from the Pacific, from the Kerguelen Ridge, and from Antarctica' sheds light on the importance of this polar base for the Anglo-Saxon world.

Oh really? The Australian premier? WTF is that? :P

I think someone's been reading "The Cosmic Conspiracy" by Stan Deyo??? LOL.

I think someone's been reading "The Cosmic Conspiracy" by Stan Deyo??? LOL.

LOL yeah whateva :) I have spoken to defence employees whom I know personally, they refused to give any details but did confirm the existence of EM weapons, I do not know the magnitude nor the type of weapons in existence BUT they do exist in Australia on some level, you can all rest assured of that much.

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Ultra Low Frequency emissions use simple antenna's from what I understand. The HH Naval base is more than just a submarine recharging and communications facility. They possibly have deep transmission towers there too, not visible.

I have to say this Geraldton base is interesting, I have not heard of it before.

Oh silly me, I thought you were talking about Little Johnny Howard as one of the 2 weapons of mass destruction!

nevermind the other avatar, i find it all very interesting.

I would actually hope that it is all true. I would feel much better if i knew there was something other than us in the galaxy, and something more to life than what it seems.

I dont know what to believe, really thought. I have been fooledinto believeing silly conspiracy's before, so i will not dive into believing this without more proof.
However, i cant dismiss it, as it could very well be true.

Looking forward ot you posting more info avatar..

EXMOUTH Tx FIREBALL WEAPONS AND ORBITAL UFOs
There is of course another possible scenario that could be contributing to government silence.

Richard Hoagland, ex-NASA employee and space archaeologist media personality, released some spectacular NASA video footage that was shot from an American space shuttle mission in September 1991. This video was downlinked by radio from the shuttle to a NASA ground station in the US and was accidentally intercepted en route by a ham radio operator in the US.

Subsequent to this intercept and its public distribution by the radio ham, NASA initially encrypted and then totally ceased further shuttle video transmissions.

The shuttle was said by Hoagland to be in orbit over Indonesia, heading south towards Western Australia. Subsequent research by Australian and New Zealand UFO groups demonstrates that the shuttle was in fact over Lake Carnegie in central Western Australia, heading south-southeast. [See report in NEXUS 3/03.]

The video shows a small white-light UFO that appears over the Earth's horizon to the east of Australia and flies north at a speed of some 54,000 mph (this and subsequent data are according to Hoagland's calculations). Suddenly the upper atmosphere or ionosphere below the shuttle flashes with an intense white light. The UFO appears to sense this flash and immediately executes a 180-degree, 14,000-g-force turn, accelerating out of orbit and away from the planet at some 200,000 mph.

All of the above manoeuvres occur in a second or so, and are immediately followed in a microsecond by two very-high-speed, bright-light energy pulses riding straight (but fainter) light beams from the planet's surface below the shuttle, projected up to a spot where the UFO would have been had it not reacted so violently to the initial upper atmospheric light flash.

The Australian and New Zealand UFO research teams claim that beam pulse number one came from Exmouth in northwestern WA, and beam pulse number two came from around Alice Springs, NT, near the Joint Defence Space Research Facility at Pine Gap.

Hoagland believes this video demonstrates a US test of the Brilliant Pebbles particle-beam weapon system, aimed at a super- secret US antigravity-drive spacecraft/drone. The same video shows a few other orbital lights that are presumably also UFOs.

Recently I was contacted by an Onslow, WA, resident who had read the first two parts of this "Bright Skies" series. He reported that his son had been totally spooked in late 1991 whilst out roo-shooting one night south of Onslow on the Crow Plains, some 80 km southeast of the Exmouth Tx site. The son and another shooter had observed huge blue-green-white fireballs form at ground level and fire off into space along a light beam at a steep angle and at an ever-accelerating velocity.

The fireballs were seen at ground level to the northwest, and a reconstruction places them exactly in line with the Exmouth Tx site. They almost certainly originated from the VLF Tx site at the Harold E. Holt Naval Communications Station at the Exmouth base. Fireballs were seen on several nights and had previously been reported by the owner of the sheep station in this area.

The ground eyewitness reports couple well with the Hoagland space shuttle video and the antipodean UFO research teams' findings. The data collectively demonstrate that the Exmouth base is indeed a deployment site of a major EM weapon system that can at the very least create and fire EM plasma energy pulses into space. The data also explain the strange upper-atmospheric light flashes seen as large-area events over WA and other parts of Australia.

It was this type of event occurring below the space shuttle that appeared to cause the UFO to turn and run. I postulate that this event was a Tesla Energy Magnifying Transmitter 'warming up' and energising the ionosphere-to-Earth ground-space cavity as a prelude to EM weapon pulse firing. The EM fireball plasma energy pulse was presumably shot skywards along an improved Grindell H. Mathews ultraviolet laser beam that 'cleared' the way, creating a conducting path through the atmosphere for propagation of the Tesla EM energy slug. Unfortunately for the Exmouth weapons team, the UFO was a slight technological jump ahead of their pulse weapon.

I remain unconvinced by Hoagland's explanations of the action in this NASA video being a weapon test against an American UFO spacecraft/drone. The UFO demonstrates some very advanced abilities, and although I can accept that the USA is technologically advanced, I really have to wonder if this UFO is truly of US origin or whether it is more likely to be of alien, off-planet design and manufacture.

The origin of this particular UFO is of great importance since this Hoagland/NASA video could indicate that a state of war exists between the USA (and, by default, Australia) and an off-planet alien power. Such an alien state of affairs could well explain (but not condone) the government and media silence on recent fireball and exotic light-emission events.

However, other data and intelligence point more towards an exchange of fire with advanced technology craft operated by other Earthbound powers in a secret oligarchic war that has been evolving around us for several years.

One thing is totally certain: the Hoagland video does not show a series of ice particles flying past the shuttle, as NASA would have us believe. My own research conclusions about fireballs, explosions and seismic events are genuine, honest attempts to understand their causes. If more resources were thrown into the work, my conclusions could eventually turn out to be incorrect. But they pale into insignificance alongside NASA's eloquent but obvious fairy stories.

Ok, let me get this right... I'm a evil little green alien that has the technology to traverse the incredible emptiness of space. I can defy the laws of physics to travel thousands of light years in a much shorter time to arrive at a distant blue/green planet at the boring edge of the milky way.

When I get there, I just happen to fly over the most empty part of the planet, and the only place which has an experimental partical weapon, and get my butt shot at. It does no damage, and my sensors indicate it's just a crappy primitive weapon, but still I high tail myself out of there at 200,000kh and fly back into the empytiness of space.

Sure....

And the Australian parliament was created for the center of a global dictatorship... year right, it's a big building mate, but not that big.

Mate, There isn't the technology at Pine Gap to do any of the things you suggest. I mean, look how long it took the U.S. to find Saddam, and they only caught him because he was tipped off by an Iraqi. And U.S. still hasn't found the WMD's in Iraq. Afghanastan is still mostly run by militia forces in the mountains...

It's all bollocks, and really sad if you believe this stuff. I mean, with all the money and technology that these article claim is in Pine Gap, surely the U.S. could use it to make a more modern space shuttle... one that doesn't crash when it lands, or a hamburger without calories.

LOL I never said things were as advanced as stated above - but i do beleive technology does exist that is beyound what most of us realise.

I don't write the conspiracy theories i was just interpreting some of the information - I have never suggested that all of them are true.

That ship mentioned above was not necessarily refered to by me as alien :P

LOL I never said things were as advanced as stated above - but i do beleive technology does exist that is beyound what most of us realise.

I don't write the conspiracy theories i was just interpreting some of the information - I have never suggested that all of them are true.

That ship mentioned above was not necessarily refered to by me as alien :P

Technology is beyond our imagination these days... have you seen those telstra excahnges? they are like super super super computers...

also us also has planes that cant be detected by radars. It is clearly visble to the eye... so the US calls them "stealth planes"

BLIMEY! so how's the secret world governement plans coming along? i wonder who is winning the galactic war? it would be nice to know who's on our side and who we're against so we can know if we picked the right side. i actually did hear a guy of JJJ in the late 80's once who was apparently ex us intelligence and he reckoned there was a portal under pine gap that was big enough for the US to drive tanks and massive devices through if need be, and this was way before StarGate!

is the us government just hiding fat free burgers from the public?

Can you stop bringing up dead threads

they're not dead to me, quite new and interesting but i'll stop now.

I just find it wierd that Americans have all these bases in seemingly valueless places right in the absoloute middle of fucking no where.

Something big is going on cos they have the same type of bases in the US. Is there underground/water tunnels between the countries?

It is all just very strange.

Why stop? You have every right to post in them and bring them back for people who may not have read them before.

Ok, let me get this right... I'm a evil little green alien that has the technology to traverse the incredible emptiness of space. I can defy the laws of physics to travel thousands of light years in a much shorter time to arrive at a distant blue/green planet at the boring edge of the milky way.

When I get there, I just happen to fly over the most empty part of the planet, and the only place which has an experimental partical weapon, and get my butt shot at. It does no damage, and my sensors indicate it's just a crappy primitive weapon, but still I high tail myself out of there at 200,000kh and fly back into the empytiness of space.

Sure....

And the Australian parliament was created for the center of a global dictatorship... year right, it's a big building mate, but not that big.

Mate, There isn't the technology at Pine Gap to do any of the things you suggest. I mean, look how long it took the U.S. to find Saddam, and they only caught him because he was tipped off by an Iraqi. And U.S. still hasn't found the WMD's in Iraq. Afghanastan is still mostly run by militia forces in the mountains...

It's all bollocks, and really sad if you believe this stuff. I mean, with all the money and technology that these article claim is in Pine Gap, surely the U.S. could use it to make a more modern space shuttle... one that doesn't crash when it lands, or a hamburger without calories.

I never suggested the ship was an alien craft, most likely the ship was a human built derivative, testing weapons and monitored by the space shuttle. We have had jets that could skin the upper limits of the atmosphere and make mach 3 since the middle of last century. There has been substantial research in hypersonic aircraft since then plus the added research driven into the space industries. We have commerical companies building space craft for revenue services. If you think the space shuttle is the height of our space technology I'd suggest you are more than likely wrong. Much clandestine work has been in development through secret programs like Locheed Martins Skunkworks and now other projects and design teams. Even in the 1960s military and civilian programs have been testing anti gravity type devices on jets and airborncraft, as simple as those that use sonic waves to generate additional lift to those that use a combination of sonic waves and electrical discharge.

we know Pinegap has a myriad of secret uses, it is certainly a space and communications monitoring centre in constant links with spy satellites ... this is confirmed. This is most certainly not the only use for the facility. It is also widely suggested the facitiy contains the deepest and longest antennae installation built under the central randome. Who knows what to believe? I am not suggesting world conspiracy and alien races - this is simply too far fetched but Tesla weapons are a very real possibility. The secret programs of HAARP in the US suggests tesla arrays, same too for Australian JORN networks and Pine Gap and the older facility at exmouth, and the British and Russians (woodpecker) have similar facilities and have done so since the cold war. I would say with considerable certainty tesla's original works and patents have been ruthlessly analysed and plans and models tested, it's been a very long time simce they were first mooted and at the pace with which technology is developing I think it would be naive to suggesting more advanced research and experiments were not taking place into EMF and electomagnetism. I also question why Australia chose not to adopt nuclear weapons at a time when to do so would have gelled well with our closest allies of the UK and US, we tested the goddam things on our soil! If we wanted them, they could have been ours. Something tells me the reason we didn't arm ourselves with a nuclear arsenal was propably due to us having something else that at the time very few places in the world had and still probably have today. Russia knew of tesla's work before he defected to the US, the US classified and took all the material available while tesla was living there. Very few places even today use over the horizon radar which can be used to detect stealth craft - so it would seem Australia and very few other countries have been working hard on this technology.

BTW if the guy wants to ressurect old threads, it's his perrogative, some might not have seen thread and new additions to forums might take an interest. I think it's great to see people exploring old issues and making comment.

^^ too funny! :) av is replying to someone from nearly 3 years ago. when i said i'll stop, i meant i'll stop for now. i've found some good shit back there.

Well, Stargate SG1 was cancelled by sci-fi channel so they didn't need to film in cheyenne mountain, and now the US announces they'll shut the base down... CONSPIRACY!

Ohh haven't you heard, the stargate have been moved to Pine Gap, the Ori and Go'auld are real.
I have a Ha'tak mothership as a runabout. :)

Hey Avatar, if you're interested in sci-fi spaceships of all shapes and sizes then check this out: http://www.merzo.net

In the article in your first post there was mentioned a secret US base in NSW. I've never heard of one. Where is it?

Also, have you heard of the Echelon network? Run by the US, AFAIK it's not for military spying but the commercial kind i.e. industrial espionage. Say an airline wants to purchase new planes, the US can supposedly use this system to find out what price Airbus is offering, pass this onto Boeing who can then undercut them. I've read that this was actually done once. As you are in Sydney, have you heard of or seen the building at 4a Herbert Street, St Leonards, near Royal North Shore Hospital? It's a huge building with few windows, guards inside the front entrance (I think), lots of CCTV cameras and is supposedly full of advanced computers which are used as part of this network. It's located in an industrial area so it doesn't look out of place, but there is no sign out the front or on the building saying what it is, except for one stating its address. If it were a business you'd think it would have signs, wouldn't you? Apparently Willoughby Council have never been able to get inside the place to inspect it. Food for thought...

Thanks for the dimensions site, I have it in my favourites and go back to it from time to time, I waited a couple of years for them to add a ha'tak, pity they don't add more stargate ships. :)

I have heard of echelon, can't say i know much about it. The stuff about the building in Artarmon/St leonards sounds interesting. I have been around herbert street a fair bit, have some friends that work close by and my car gets serviced just around there. I will have to pay particular attention to this building, i may have noticed it and I think i did recently, but thought nothing much of it, except it looked rather hardcore with security. My friend and i made comment and that was that. St leonards is a node for the backbone fibre that goes international and several large IT companies are based in and around there, I guess the whole thing has something to do with that too.

I have friends at willougby council, I will gather intel. The poor willoughby councillors i bet they have their nickers in a knot over that one. It's nice to know the lower north shore is now a target!

Can you stop bringing up dead threads

Who are you, the Dead Thread police? He or anyone here has the right to reply to any old thread they see fit.:bash:

"Australia has at least 2 weapons of mass destruction"

How about these two foxy hornbags?

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/3571/kathandkimpb8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

As you are in Sydney, have you heard of or seen the building at 4a Herbert Street, St Leonards, near Royal North Shore Hospital? It's a huge building with few windows, guards inside the front entrance (I think), lots of CCTV cameras and is supposedly full of advanced computers which are used as part of this network. It's located in an industrial area so it doesn't look out of place, but there is no sign out the front or on the building saying what it is, except for one stating its address. If it were a business you'd think it would have signs, wouldn't you? Apparently Willoughby Council have never been able to get inside the place to inspect it. Food for thought...

many large corporations put their IT data centres in areas like that and never label them, they don't want it to be general knowledge where their data is stored. they are always fortresses with many layers of security and usually don't have windows, or few of them. one example is westpacs data centre in north ryde. its huge but you wouldn't know what it was unless you were in the know. they try and make it as inconspicuous as possible. so it could be all quite innocent, or, it's a big mind controlling conspiracy centre!

Meh, I'll butt in to.

There has to be a reason why no one has invaded AU since the Japs tried it, whats so scarey about us? Could we have something that no one else has? (other than the top 10 all time deadliest animals) I mean we have a combined population in our country less than some major capital cities, yet we're up there with economy, technology (some say top of medical reasearch) and defence. Is Australia really the lucky country because we have this whatever it is, and everyone thinks "yeah, lucky we didn't have it or esle!" :lol:

I know there's alot of technology out there which isn't in the public eye, one I've seen with my very own 2 eyes, but again, I can't tell you what it is or the person who invented it is - I don't even know why that person has been told to gag it aswell :shrugs: ...

Anyways, I'm a firm believer that there's alot more goings on around the place than is let on about.... :gossip:

Ohh haven't you heard, the stargate have been moved to Pine Gap, the Ori and Go'auld are real.
I have a Ha'tak mothership as a runabout. :)

Dont forget that replicators are actually real life robots. Scientists have created miniature block shaped computers & requested them to cross 2 metre space between two desks.
The blocks thought about the problem, rearranged themselves into a bridge & even created a few extras in order to complete the task.
Thats a scary proposition considering the replicators on Stargate Atlantis are super super intelligent.

And the wraith are coming soon too.

My uncle in QLD is convinced aliens are running around talking to whales in nearby Harvy Bay & the government is experimenting on people using all kinds of alien technology. And this has formed in his mind waaaay before x files.
He hates it when I ask if the government is dishing out anal probes on the experimentees.

^^ there's medicine that will help him! :)

All of this stuff makes for fascinating reading. I have heard many theories about Pine Gap and other installations around Australia and you can be sure there something is going on.

I noted someone posted that Australia has no Nuclear Weapons? You can bet your bottom dollar that Australia most definitely has nuclear weapons.

It might not be spoken about but the miliatary is well aware of the dangers a hostile China might pose (resource strapped) in the very near future – Australia with our squillions of natural resources would be a prize for any country. If China or any other country for that matter made a move on us the weapons would be armed immediately.

js

i think western countries are more likely to be attacked from within now days than from outside. certain forces are trying to expand there evil ideologies from the inside, they know they can't win by attacking directly as a named state. maybe china might get desperate but they know that they wouldn't just be fighting us at this stage, they're not silly.

^^ there's medicine that will help him! :)

Bars & rubber wallpaper would be useful too.

From http://www.ato.gov.au/individuals/content.asp?doc=/content/22255.htm&pc=001/002/007/012/001&mnu=952&mfp=001&st=&cy=1

Australia/United States Joint Space and Defence Projects

The income of those connected with such projects may qualify for special tax treatment under section 23AA of the Income Tax Assessment Act 1936.

The projects are:

1. North West Cape Naval Communication Station (Exmouth, Western Australia)
2. Joint Defence Space Research Facility (Pine Gap, Northern Territory)
3. Sparta Project
4. Joint Defence Space Communications Station (Nurrungar, South Australia).

Under certain circumstances, the income from employment for services at these facilities are exempt from Australian income tax provided the same income is subject to tax in the United States. You will need to provide evidence such as a Closing Agreement with the US Internal Revenue Service.

This tax treatment does not apply to those who are Australian citizens or those who are ordinarily residents of Australia.

Last Modified: Friday, 17 November 2006

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/other/dfat/treaties/1963/16.html

Agreement between the Government of the Commonwealth of Australia and the Government of the United States of America relating to the Establishment of a United States Naval Communication Station in Australia [North West Cape - Exmouth WA]

If Australia had nuclear weapons I'm sure we would know about it. Other countries don't seem to mind advertising there nuclear capability, even the crazy nutcases like to show off even though it only lands them in hot water. If we had nuclear weapons, the Russians or Chinese or someone else would have found out about them by now and it would have leaked to everyone else. Additionally we are signed to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty so I'm sure we don't have any.

I'm pretty sure we don't have them, though if we are ever attacked with a nuclear weapon the united states will deliver one for us within 24 hours if we request it. But only if we have been nuked first.

I believe we have all the technology to put them together at short notice. As well as building the HIFAR reactor Australia imported gas centrifuges in the 1950s giving it the potential to enrich uranium. We have much spent nuclear fuel that can easily be enriched to weapons grade fissile material. The other technology is likely in place. I am quite sure Australia is prepared for a nuclear response if provoked, the question remains however ... do we need nuclear weapons?

It has also been stated that these Tesla weapons also have the ability to provide a teslar sheild, something like an electronic forcefield that could protect a city in the event of an attempted nuclear strike. The forcefielf would render electronic devices in the path of the shield ineffective.

The only time Australia had a weapon grade uranium recently was when we borrowed uranium from Spain to do research in Lucas Heights. That was last year. It was returned back late last year with heightened security on a container ship.

There is uranium product from the Lucas height HiFAR reactors held under security in hospitals here. I am not sure what this product from Spain was but if Australia has centrifuges we still have the capacity to enrich the uranium ourselves. It's really hard to say but certainly spain is an unusual place for us to source enriched uranium.

If Japan takes more than 3 months to enrich into a nuclear weapon grade uranium by extracting it from nuclear reactors, then there's no way we can do it under 3 months.

Plus, we are a member of NPT (non-proliferation treaty) where nuclear ingredients can only be used for peaceful purposes (eg. electricity).

Meh, I'll butt in to.

There has to be a reason why no one has invaded AU since the Japs tried it, whats so scarey about us? Could we have something that no one else has? (other than the top 10 all time deadliest animals) I mean we have a combined population in our country less than some major capital cities, yet we're up there with economy, technology (some say top of medical reasearch) and defence.

Well honestly, how many countries have been invaded since "the Japs tried it" (and they actually didn't) ... there are about 200 hundred sovereign states around now, how many have been invaded since WW II ?

And when they were- take Kuwait for instance- was Saddam thinking ... "Now where will I invade ... the lush unoccupied and mineral-rich pastures of vast Australia? ... no, that'll upset the Yanks, I'll go for little Kuwait instead".


Indonesia, East Timor?
Russia, Czechoslovakia?
China, Vietnam?
Iraq, Iran?
Argentina, Falklands?
US, Laos? (I deliberately left Vietnam out)
US, Cambodia?
US, Nicaragua?
US, Panama?
US, Grenada?
US, Somalia?
US, Afghanistan?
US, Iraq?


There has to be a reason why no one has invaded AU since the Japs tried it,

Perhaps the Kiwis did something too, but it was something very different to us.

Just a reminder everyone - they aren't US bases. They are joint US and Australian - 50% each way and we own the land upon which they sit. The Commonwealth has never agreed to allow the US to own bases outright in Australia, lest we end up with problems like they had in the Philippines.

This may seem like a technicality, but I think it is an important distinction to make.

I'm not a military strategist but I believe any invasion of Australia would be very difficult to pull off. The land area is enormous, and the population centres and sites of strategic interest are spread far apart. High tech communications and surveillance would mean the government would know what was coming long before it got here. We are surrounded by sea meaning almost everything would have to be sent by ship which makes them vulnerable. Road and rail links are sparse so blockading just one bridge (for example) could easily isolate a huge region. We are a long way from most countries requiring a huge logistics effort on behalf of any invader. The terrain and climate is almost inhospitable for most of the country, and further, enemy forces would unlikely we well trained for it while our forces would be very familiar with it.

Just a reminder everyone - they aren't US bases. They are joint US and Australian - 50% each way and we own the land upon which they sit. The Commonwealth has never agreed to allow the US to own bases outright in Australia, lest we end up with problems like they had in the Philippines.

This may seem like a technicality, but I think it is an important distinction to make.

They're US Bases. The fact that we still speculate on the purpose of Pine Gap speaks for itself.

and who is "The Commonwealth" ?

If Japan takes more than 3 months to enrich into a nuclear weapon grade uranium by extracting it from nuclear reactors, then there's no way we can do it under 3 months.

Plus, we are a member of NPT (non-proliferation treaty) where nuclear ingredients can only be used for peaceful purposes (eg. electricity).

But if we were invaded & a bomb could be assembled quite quickly, I doubt any bit of paper would suddenly seem so important.

They're US Bases.

No they're not. As 'The Olderfleet' points out, they are joint facilites:-


Australia-US joint communications base planned for Western Australia

The Australian government will host a US strategic and military satellite communications system at its existing Australian Defence Satellite Communications Station (ADSCS) in Geraldton, Western Australia.

As part of a large satellite-based mobile phone network, the new ground station will support US and Australian users, including deployed forces. Once completed, the three-building complex will be unmanned, requiring only occasional maintenance support. Australia hosts two other joint operations with the US: the Joint Defence Facility Pine Gap near Alice Springs, which supports the national security of both Australia and the United States, and the Joint Geological and Geophysical Research Station, which is jointly operated by Geoscience Australia and the US Air Force. The United States also has access to an Australian naval communication station.

(From the Australian Embassy website, Washington DC):-

http://www.austemb.org/whwh/newsletter.html

The fact that we still speculate on the purpose of Pine Gap speaks for itself.

The fact that they're joint facilties dosen't stop them from having high security, so naturally there will be speculation of their activites, just as people may speculate on the activities of organisations like ASIS and ASIO.

and who is "The Commonwealth" ?

The Australian Government obviously.

If the Americans are flying UFOs round WA I want them to land at Perth Airport so we can use them as another low cost carrier.

Would also speed up plans to merge all 3 terminals
thats domestic, international and interstellar.

In terms of a country attacking Australia, most of it has being said previously, Australia is well positioned in terms of defence.

There are very few nations in the world that have a naval fleet capable of making a reasonable attack on australia. China, USA and maybe some Eurpoean countries. Out of those China would be the only one who is not a strong ally of Australia. Which, if it were the case for China to attack Australia, we would practically see WW3.

As for these secret conspiracies, i think some people have watched to many hollywood movies. Whats this busness about rechargine submarines through antennae, why would a nuclear powered submaring need this?

In terms of neighbouring countries, Indonesian military is too busy with internal disputes to even consider attacking australia. Singapore is quickly developing into a close ally of australia. Malaysia is too busy with there neighbours and military coupls. PNG, well there hardly even a nation.

I think some people hold the US defence force in too high a regard. The invasion of Iraq should have demonstrated to the world that there military capability isnt really that technologically advanced, sure there is a lot of research into future weapons, but in practical terms these are still a while away. The invasion of Iraq has only delayed all this research futher, budget constraints(hard to believe US military have budget constraints) has put pressure on the military to redirect more of there budget to the war on Iraq.

It was for recharging diesel/electric subs using VLF transmissions, the Harold Holt Naval Base was built a long time ago now. Well before the huge nuclear fleets that exist today.

i remember an episode of the x-files where a specially designed antena used to communicate with poseidon subs was causing peoples heads to explode! so what came first, the sci-fi idea or a real life experience? ohhh ahhh!!!

I think some people hold the US defence force in too high a regard. The invasion of Iraq should have demonstrated to the world that there military capability isnt really that technologically advanced, sure there is a lot of research into future weapons, but in practical terms these are still a while away. The invasion of Iraq has only delayed all this research futher, budget constraints(hard to believe US military have budget constraints) has put pressure on the military to redirect more of there budget to the war on Iraq.

If their military hardware is like NASA's nobody is in too much danger. Guess those hollywood producers who love to glorify the US military will have to re think their scripts in light of the Iraq fiasco. If they cant stop a bunch of dress wearing men, how can the US military fight against aliens who can just blow us up from orbit?

It was for recharging diesel/electric subs using VLF transmissions, the Harold Holt Naval Base was built a long time ago now. Well before the huge nuclear fleets that exist today.


VLF freqs?

i might be wrong, but i though directed energy only operated in the extremely high freq spectrum.

VLF is used for nothing rather then sending morse.

well possibly the VLF was used for communication and the UHF for battery recharging. I'm not privy to what the base actually did.

EXMOUTH Tx FIREBALL WEAPONS AND ORBITAL UFOs
There is of course another possible scenario that could be contributing to government silence.

Richard Hoagland, ex-NASA employee and space archaeologist media personality, released some spectacular NASA video footage that was shot from an American space shuttle mission in September 1991. This video was downlinked by radio from the shuttle to a NASA ground station in the US and was accidentally intercepted en route by a ham radio operator in the US.

Subsequent to this intercept and its public distribution by the radio ham, NASA initially encrypted and then totally ceased further shuttle video transmissions.

The shuttle was said by Hoagland to be in orbit over Indonesia, heading south towards Western Australia. Subsequent research by Australian and New Zealand UFO groups demonstrates that the shuttle was in fact over Lake Carnegie in central Western Australia, heading south-southeast. [See report in NEXUS 3/03.]

The video shows a small white-light UFO that appears over the Earth's horizon to the east of Australia and flies north at a speed of some 54,000 mph (this and subsequent data are according to Hoagland's calculations). Suddenly the upper atmosphere or ionosphere below the shuttle flashes with an intense white light. The UFO appears to sense this flash and immediately executes a 180-degree, 14,000-g-force turn, accelerating out of orbit and away from the planet at some 200,000 mph.

All of the above manoeuvres occur in a second or so, and are immediately followed in a microsecond by two very-high-speed, bright-light energy pulses riding straight (but fainter) light beams from the planet's surface below the shuttle, projected up to a spot where the UFO would have been had it not reacted so violently to the initial upper atmospheric light flash.

The Australian and New Zealand UFO research teams claim that beam pulse number one came from Exmouth in northwestern WA, and beam pulse number two came from around Alice Springs, NT, near the Joint Defence Space Research Facility at Pine Gap.

Hoagland believes this video demonstrates a US test of the Brilliant Pebbles particle-beam weapon system, aimed at a super- secret US antigravity-drive spacecraft/drone. The same video shows a few other orbital lights that are presumably also UFOs.

Recently I was contacted by an Onslow, WA, resident who had read the first two parts of this "Bright Skies" series. He reported that his son had been totally spooked in late 1991 whilst out roo-shooting one night south of Onslow on the Crow Plains, some 80 km southeast of the Exmouth Tx site. The son and another shooter had observed huge blue-green-white fireballs form at ground level and fire off into space along a light beam at a steep angle and at an ever-accelerating velocity.

The fireballs were seen at ground level to the northwest, and a reconstruction places them exactly in line with the Exmouth Tx site. They almost certainly originated from the VLF Tx site at the Harold E. Holt Naval Communications Station at the Exmouth base. Fireballs were seen on several nights and had previously been reported by the owner of the sheep station in this area.

The ground eyewitness reports couple well with the Hoagland space shuttle video and the antipodean UFO research teams' findings. The data collectively demonstrate that the Exmouth base is indeed a deployment site of a major EM weapon system that can at the very least create and fire EM plasma energy pulses into space. The data also explain the strange upper-atmospheric light flashes seen as large-area events over WA and other parts of Australia.

It was this type of event occurring below the space shuttle that appeared to cause the UFO to turn and run. I postulate that this event was a Tesla Energy Magnifying Transmitter 'warming up' and energising the ionosphere-to-Earth ground-space cavity as a prelude to EM weapon pulse firing. The EM fireball plasma energy pulse was presumably shot skywards along an improved Grindell H. Mathews ultraviolet laser beam that 'cleared' the way, creating a conducting path through the atmosphere for propagation of the Tesla EM energy slug. Unfortunately for the Exmouth weapons team, the UFO was a slight technological jump ahead of their pulse weapon.

I remain unconvinced by Hoagland's explanations of the action in this NASA video being a weapon test against an American UFO spacecraft/drone. The UFO demonstrates some very advanced abilities, and although I can accept that the USA is technologically advanced, I really have to wonder if this UFO is truly of US origin or whether it is more likely to be of alien, off-planet design and manufacture.

The origin of this particular UFO is of great importance since this Hoagland/NASA video could indicate that a state of war exists between the USA (and, by default, Australia) and an off-planet alien power. Such an alien state of affairs could well explain (but not condone) the government and media silence on recent fireball and exotic light-emission events.

However, other data and intelligence point more towards an exchange of fire with advanced technology craft operated by other Earthbound powers in a secret oligarchic war that has been evolving around us for several years.

One thing is totally certain: the Hoagland video does not show a series of ice particles flying past the shuttle, as NASA would have us believe. My own research conclusions about fireballs, explosions and seismic events are genuine, honest attempts to understand their causes. If more resources were thrown into the work, my conclusions could eventually turn out to be incorrect. But they pale into insignificance alongside NASA's eloquent but obvious fairy stories.

without going into too much detail a professor at my uni who is also a federal defense advisor told me (i've been buggering him for a long time:D ) today that australia does have secret weapons of mass destruction that would make nuclear armanents look like small firecrackers.he wouldnt go into too much detail,but i fished out this video that shows the above encounter in action.enjoy!:cheers:

http://www.youtube.com/v/Jo9XthAkufs

the plot thickens!

Yeah I have seen the nasa footage but never the whole story, excellent find.

As in my initial message ... experts calculated that the two flashes were indeed from Australia and triangulated their firing position from PineGap and Exmouth. Funny they correlate exactly with Australia two most secret tesla rumoured bases.

It is suggested the weapon is made up of an ultraviolet laser blast (burn the path) for the secondary EM Pulse blast (seen in the footage).

I really wish that agencies would go into more detail so we knew what exactly what was sitting out there in the middle of Australia. I have spoken to defence personnel, who refused to deny that exmouth had some links to tesla. They then went on to say that that should give me my answer. It seems the RAN indeed know about and possibly work with tesla weapons.

if they have it they aren't going to tell anyone about the ace up their sleeve. if they don't have it they want possible enemies to think that maybe they do! it's part of the game.

LOL it's a bit hard to hide these bases!

How come respectable people never see aliens or are abducted by them? Its always cranks & weirdos with the alien stories. Are they doing experiments on bogans or something?

or were they respectable people that as soon as they say they have been abducted or seen something they all of a sudden become freaks?! maybe it's the anal probe that does it to them as it did to cartman!

interesting all of this is either true of false

without going into too much detail a professor at my uni who is also a federal defense advisor told me (i've been buggering him for a long time:D ) today that australia does have secret weapons of mass destruction that would make nuclear armanents look like small firecrackers.he wouldnt go into too much detail,but i fished out this video that shows the above encounter in action.enjoy!:cheers:

http://www.youtube.com/v/Jo9XthAkufs

Ha, either your lying or he is.

If he were a defence advisor he would have a security clearance, making a security breach is punishable by up to 20yrs jail. Telling someone something like that is a massive security breach, if it were true.

Two options here, send him to the loony bin or send him to prison!

^^ well mate i posted here cos i wanted to contribute some substance and not just speculation here and he's not lyin 4 sure cos he's a respectable prof at our uni and a highly regarded one in his field.this is an educational institution where advanced research goes on and he was just giving a brief address on australia's curent state in terms of weapon readiness after which i asked him in his office and he just skimmed the issue sayin that australia did have these weapons "that would make nuclear armanents look like firecrackers".he would not go further into detail.

I think it's very reasonable to assume Australia has tesla weapons systems of some description.

Who wants to have weapons of mass destruction anyway? :P

without going into too much detail a professor at my uni who is also a federal defense advisor told me (i've been buggering him for a long time:D )
Possible responses:

You've pumped him for information, eh?

You and the professor obviously have a close relationship...

Did we really need to know this kind of detail?

^^ :jk:

I do! He who controls has the power!

Geeze . . . what's with all these ancient threads being bumped up?

I feel like I'm being sent backwards in a time machine, lol.

^^ and how far along with implementing your evil plan are you bondy?

Who wants to have weapons of mass destruction anyway? :P

People who want to destroy MASS.:)

^^ well mate i posted here cos i wanted to contribute some substance and not just speculation here and he's not lyin 4 sure cos he's a respectable prof at our uni and a highly regarded one in his field.this is an educational institution where advanced research goes on and he was just giving a brief address on australia's curent state in terms of weapon readiness after which i asked him in his office and he just skimmed the issue sayin that australia did have these weapons "that would make nuclear armanents look like firecrackers".he would not go further into detail.

:ohno:
settle down tiger, just go back to reading 'conspiracy theories' and watching michael moore movies.

Im just curious, as to how something which would(by your description) be over 1000 times bigger then a nuclear weapon be developed without the knowledge of the media or public? (you will lose all credibility if you say cover-up)

You understand, if a nuclear weapon gets tested anywhere in the world it can be pin-pointed to within a few km with relatively basic technology. So, you would think that something which is as big as you say would leave a considerably mark on the landscape.

Im not calling you a liar, im just saying your professor is pulling your leg, because if he is as highly regarded and influential as you say then he would not be as stupid to release what appears to be top-secret intelligence to one of his uni-students.

I think you have watched a few too many 'star-gate' episodes and hollywood movies.

Tesla strikes can possibly be disguised as 'natural events' such as earthquakes etc. Nuclear strikes are located through the use of satellites that scan for radioactivity, and correlated data of seismic events I am sure tesla strikes could also be scanned but the technology must be scanning for the correct type of occurance. It seems pausible that several lrage events that have devestated regions and cities could have actually not been naturally instigated. The Kobe earthquake has been the case of speculation as have other similar events. I do think it is very likely weapons exist but the fact that they still remain a relative mystery is a cause for concern.

Are you talking about the Tesla Coil Towers in Red Alert 2? Do those things actually exist?

Yes, but not exactly a la Red Alert (they're in 1 as well). They're basically massive Van De Graf generators which can build up a huge amount of electrical charge and release it as lightning. They're usually kept in metal cages so the lightning arcs to part of the cage (otherwise it would just take the path of least resistance through the air). They have one at ScienceWorks down in Spotswood I believe.

Isn't there also a Tesla Coil at Point Nepean?

One of the largest publically accessible is located at Questacon in Canberra if I am not mistaken. The largest is located at a sculpture park in New Zealand. Tesla doomsday devices are a little more fullon than a simple Van De Graf generator. I think all of you will find you have played with them at school too. I know I did, think about a metal mushroom thing on a stand that generates static electricity.

Lightning Machine - Questacon
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fa/Lightning_simulator_questacon02.jpg/800px-Lightning_simulator_questacon02.jpg

There are some things that we are just not supposed to know for our own good. Do you think he government would keep things top secret just for fun? no. I think they are just trying to make life better for us and we shouldn't always be trying to solve things we're not supposed to.

Are you talking about the Tesla Coil Towers in Red Alert 2? Do those things actually exist?
Apparently they do: :nuts:
http://tesladownunder.com/TeslaRedAlert2Full1000.jpg




Although the Red Alert 1 tesla coils are much cooler :p

beware of the chinamen!

If they not come in ships, they will swim across the oceans!!!! :lol:

beware of the chinamen!

If they not come in ships, they will swim across the oceans!!!! :lol:

LOL and that's exactly why we have a tesla superweapon at south west cape.

Apparently they do: :nuts:
http://tesladownunder.com/TeslaRedAlert2Full1000.jpg

Although the Red Alert 1 tesla coils are much cooler :p


Is this in Australia? it looks like gum trees behind it? Hahaha I have never seen one set-up much like the red alert weapons. Normally they are in a faraday cage. It makes me laugh when people poo poo the idea of tesla superweapons, there is so much evidence to suggest they exist.

The url is tesladownunder.com so i guess it's form australia

Is this in Australia? it looks like gum trees behind it? Hahaha I have never seen one set-up much like the red alert weapons. Normally they are in a faraday cage. It makes me laugh when people poo poo the idea of tesla superweapons, there is so much evidence to suggest they exist.

where is this evidence??

there is nothing but speculation and rumours.

It's everywhere, you just have to look :P