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ano problema? :lol:

PMS :laugh:

Di ko alam naging reklamo thread na pala ito... akala ko may bagong updates yun pala nasayang lang oras ko sa pagbabasa ng mga reklamo... hindi naman masama ang paglagay ng mga ito at hindi ko sinasabi masama ang paglagay nito pero kung nakitang sobra-sobra na at alam mo ng maraming nagpost ng reklamo, TAMA NA!!!PERO SOBRANG DAMING REKLAMO TALAGA!!!... patawad pero napupuno na ako... at least magcontribute kayo't maglagay ng contributions na hindi makakasayang ng oras ng iba... sorry talaga pero napuno na ako... eto update ko...

Araneta Coliseum... I know, Its not a stadium but it can be a sports arena for basketball so....

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c341/JAMAICUS/araneta/103278998xZEBbJ_ph.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c341/JAMAICUS/araneta/araneta4.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c341/JAMAICUS/araneta/araneta2.jpg

http://www.acoustics.com.ph/images/araneta4.jpg

Rizal Sports Complex

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c341/JAMAICUS/araneta/rmscbaseballstadium.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c341/JAMAICUS/araneta/rmsctrackfieldstadium.jpg

http://www.2005seagames.com.ph/venues/rmsctrack&fieldstadium.jpg

dude, anong ginagawa naman ngayon sa araneta coliseum? meron nanaman bang renovations? kala ko kasi eh tapos na ang plano dun. those photos, were they been taken after the fight of pacquiao and that mexican loser>? :)

Those were taken a few years ago during its renovation.

anyway about the bidding for olympic, chicago is also bragging about being on it; at, o ye nadaan yata namin nung isang araw yung cuneta astrodome

One thing I noticed about The Philippines is wala pakong nakikitang magandang stadiums katulad ng mga ito,

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=10088683

Tingin nyo ba maganda kung meron ganito stadiums sa Pinas lalo na sa Manila o mga ibang lungsod sa bansa?

nakupow! Eh Bago yan bahay na muna para sa libolibong mga squatters..

Philippines does'nt need one, kasi Filipino's are not into Football, a sport which really requires a huge stadium. so building one would only be a waste of public funds. there are other projects that are more important which the gov't should focus on. pero i totally agree with you, maganda sana if we have one. pero wag na sana sa manila, masyado na crouded. Laguna would be a great spot for a structure like that. but for now, tsaga na muna sa araneta coliseum at rizal stadium. hehe

Philippines does'nt need one, kasi Filipino's are not into Football, a sport which really requires a huge stadium. so building one would only be a waste of public funds. there are other projects that are more important which the gov't should focus on. pero i totally agree with you, maganda sana if we have one. pero wag na sana sa manila, masyado na crouded. Laguna would be a great spot for a structure like that. but for now, tsaga na muna sa araneta coliseum at rizal stadium. hehe


philippines need to have a stadium, it is a symbol of national pride and dignity. we need to have one for at least. as a new 2nd world country (as per PGMA) we need to construct a state of the art Olympic stadium, kasi our growing SEA counterparts had already constructed their very own. for example Bangkok and Kuala Lumpur.

its not because we filipinos are not fond of soccer, we are constructing an olympic stadium.. para nman pag mg hhost tyo eh di na sa rizal.. kakahita dba,, :banned: so.. as i was saying we need a STADIUM once and for all.

we need to construct a state of the art Olympic stadium, kasi our growing SEA counterparts had already constructed their very own. for example Bangkok and Kuala Lumpur.

its not because we filipinos are not fond of soccer, we are constructing an olympic stadium.. para nman pag mg hhost tyo eh di na sa rizal.. kakahita dba,, :banned: so.. as i was saying we need a STADIUM once and for all.

Yun na nga ang nakakainis eh, parang napagiiwanan na talaga tyo ng mga kapitbahay natin...

ok lang nman na gumawa tyo ng isa, kya nga lang wala tyo budject pangpatayo, at kung meron man, wala tayong pangmaintain.

correct me if im wrong, pro i heard Cebu is building one. totoo ba to?

me.. if i became rich id invest on a soccer league in the pinas.. by then people wouldnt be screaming "we need a big stadium"... by then we would have a stadium similar to emirates stadium... XD or even better ( yeah! im an arsenal fan!)

i think.. the government doesn't have the stadiums in their list because the fan base for sporting events other than basketball is not that high... it is only the more affluent families who have access to cable networks who get appreciate these "slow scoring" leagues....

even if you watch the UAAP or NCAA, it's only the basketball games which gets packed with people compared to the softball, baseball, soccer and others in the whole league..

^ Well said, pau :)

i think.. the government doesn't have the stadiums in their list because the fan base for sporting events other than basketball is not that high... it is only the more affluent families who have access to cable networks who get appreciate these "slow scoring" leagues....

even if you watch the UAAP or NCAA, it's only the basketball games which gets packed with people compared to the softball, baseball, soccer and others in the whole league..

But not all stadiums are built primarily for football events. Hong Kong Stadium for example is not all football. It also host other sport events such as The Rugby Sevens. It's sometimes used as a music venue and is great for open air concerts. In fact the HK Chapter of El Shaddai have their ministries here.

What I'm saying is that not all of these impressive stadiums are all football. Some are multi sports complex as well including track and field and other sort of things. Wouldn't be a good idea for the Philippines to have an impressive multi-sports complex and in a way a place to build up athletes and be more competitive in major sporting events?

In Manila, the only sports complex that I know are Rizal in Manila, Amoranto in Quezon City and one in Marikina. Unless the council would spend on modernizing these complexes

What happened to the ULTRA? Hasn't it been used ever since after the stampede?

it would be really nice for manila or for the philippines, in general, to have an architecturally breathtaking stadium like beijing's olympic stadium or the allianz arena in munich, germany. the thing is, sports that will be mainly using these kinds of stadiums should be developed first. sports like soccer, needs more financial backing and support from the government and other institutions to create a demand. although, stadiums of this caliber can be multi-functional, it will still be primarily a sports stadium so the demand for the sport - may it be soccer, rugby, etc. has to be there. also, i don't think that this should be a top priority just yet. there are other kinds of infrastructure that needs more attention - like the improvement of the road network, transportation facilities, government centers, schools, housing. i do believe it will come soon but not now.

it would be really nice for manila or for the philippines, in general, to have an architecturally breathtaking stadium like beijing's olympic stadium or the allianz arena in munich, germany. the thing is, sports that will be mainly using these kinds of stadiums should be developed first. sports like soccer, needs more financial backing and support from the government and other institutions to create a demand. although, stadiums of this caliber can be multi-functional, it will still be primarily a sports stadium so the demand for the sport - may it be soccer, rugby, etc. has to be there. also, i don't think that this should be a top priority just yet. there are other kinds of infrastructure that needs more attention - like the improvement of the road network, transportation facilities, government centers, schools, housing. i do believe it will come soon but not now.

Yes that Philippine athletes did to be developed but don't we need a place for them to do their sport?

And again, it's not just soccer but also track and field and there's a significant no. of Filipino runners.

very true indeed

Yes that Philippine athletes did to be developed but don't we need a place for them to do their sport?

And again, it's not just soccer but also track and field and there's a significant no. of Filipino runners.

of course they need complexes but since these sports aren't as "popular" as basketball, i think the sports facilities that the philippines has is just right, for now. demand isn't really high. the sports complexes that we have are enough to develop these sports. when demand rises, that's when massive stadiums should be built. it is really impractical to start out with a big stadium for sports like soccer and track because they will just incur deficits - i doubt they'd be able to achieve a 50% occupancy of a 60,000-seat stadium for these kinds of sports much more, fill them to full capacity. i say build up the demand by funding the improvement of filipino soccer/track/etc. teams, make sure they are at par with the best so they'll get the pinoy's attention and then build that huge dream stadium everyone wants.

of course they need complexes but since these sports aren't as "popular" as basketball, i think the sports facilities that the philippines has is just right, for now. demand isn't really high. the sports complexes that we have are enough to develop these sports. when demand rises, that's when massive stadiums should be built. it is really impractical to start out with a big stadium for sports like soccer and track because they will just incur deficits - i doubt they'd be able to achieve a 50% occupancy of a 60,000-seat stadium for these kinds of sports much more, fill them to full capacity. i say build up the demand by funding the improvement of filipino soccer/track/etc. teams, make sure they are at par with the best so they'll get the pinoy's attention and then build that huge dream stadium everyone wants.

Basketball may be popular in The Philippines but it's not as popular in other South East Asian countries compared to sports like football. Sad though that The Philippines is missing out or is not participating in sport events happening in South East Asia such as the Asian cup. Even if basketball is popular in The Philippines, I don't even see the country winning or taking part in major basketball events even if it's within the region.

Basketball is one of the most popular sports in The US but they have impressive stadiums to house their games. The Philippines has Araneta Coliseum which was the largest domed colloseum back in the 60s. I wouldn't recommend remodelling it since it's a landmark but other stadiums like The Cuneta Astrodome don't look that impressive at all.

Note that these stadiums are not all for the purpose of sports but music/entertainment as well and music concerts do held in stadiums in many Asian countries. The Amoranto Stadium in Quezon City was used for major rock events such as Pulp Summer Slam

^ It's not about the winning, it's about the enjoyment ;)

'All ASEAN Cup matches
may be staged at Panaad'
All of the matches in the Southeast Asian Football Championships qualifying round may be staged in Bacolod, the president of the Philippine Football Federation said last night.

PFF president Juan Miguel "Johnny" Romualdez told the DAILY STAR that ASEAN Football Federation officials appeared receptive of their proposal of staging all the games in the Nov. 12-20 event at the Panaad Park and Stadium in Bacolod City.

Romualdez's statements came amid the controversy on the management of the Paglaum Sports Complex, the other venue eyed for the international event. After years of neglect, Paglaum was spruced up for the SEA Games men's football event last year.

In an interview last week, Rep. Carlos Cojuangco, the president of the Negros Occidental Football Association, said that it may not be wise to use the Paglaum for the ASEAN Cup unless the management row is resolved.

The Department of Education owns the Paglaum, after it was donated by the Provincial Government in the 1990s but Rep. Monico Puentevella, chairman of the Bacolod SEAG Organizing Committee, said he has yet to turn over the facility to the DepEd after the biennial meet.

"We may not need Paglaum and Iloilo," Romualdez said, after meeting with AFF officials in Manila Wednesday night.

But Romualdez is not ruling out the possibility that the AFF may turn down the proposal, adding that the PFF may tap the Marikina Sports Center as an alternative venue.

The ASEAN Cup venues will be finalized when he meets with AFF officials before the end of September, he added. The Philippine Team, mentored by Aris Caslib, arrived in Bacolod last week and is currently training at the Panaad. *CPT

http://www.visayandailystar.com/2006/September/22/sportnews2.htm

Basketball may be popular in The Philippines but it's not as popular in other South East Asian countries compared to sports like football. Sad though that The Philippines is missing out or is not participating in sport events happening in South East Asia such as the Asian cup. Even if basketball is popular in The Philippines, I don't even see the country winning or taking part in major basketball events even if it's within the region.

Basketball is one of the most popular sports in The US but they have impressive stadiums to house their games. The Philippines has Araneta Coliseum which was the largest domed colloseum back in the 60s. I wouldn't recommend remodelling it since it's a landmark but other stadiums like The Cuneta Astrodome don't look that impressive at all.

Note that these stadiums are not all for the purpose of sports but music/entertainment as well and music concerts do held in stadiums in many Asian countries. The Amoranto Stadium in Quezon City was used for major rock events such as Pulp Summer Slam

there was a news article before about Basketball Association of the Philippines' (or some other basketball body) plan to build its own stadium because they say their expenses in renting Araneta alone is hurting their budget so much.

^ It's not about the winning, it's about the enjoyment ;)

Yes it's about enjoyment pero iba rin ang panalo ;)

it would be really nice for manila or for the philippines, in general, to have an architecturally breathtaking stadium like beijing's olympic stadium or the allianz arena in munich, germany. the thing is, sports that will be mainly using these kinds of stadiums should be developed first. sports like soccer, needs more financial backing and support from the government and other institutions to create a demand. although, stadiums of this caliber can be multi-functional, it will still be primarily a sports stadium so the demand for the sport - may it be soccer, rugby, etc. has to be there. also, i don't think that this should be a top priority just yet. there are other kinds of infrastructure that needs more attention - like the improvement of the road network, transportation facilities, government centers, schools, housing. i do believe it will come soon but not now.

i totally agree! a world class airport terminal then a world class stadium!

yeah we need it.. I think its such a major hassle that the ASEAN games were hosted in different sites.

In some way, okei lang yun, kaso we're an island country e.. by plane pa ang pagtravel nila..

but we dont need to worry about that too much right now... XD no major sports tourneys headed this way atm...

who knows, maybe the next time asean games visits the philippines, building a world class sports complex will finally come true!!! (by that time our economy would be great!!!) but possibly thats gonna happen 15-20 years from now... :D

enough with the Imelidific edifices like this for now.it will only be a waste of money. what the government should do is to provide low cost housing for the millions of informal settlers all over the country. they should also try to repair the old provincial highways and bridges.

as a new 2nd world country (as per PGMA)

second world? ok lang ba si GMA?

alam ba niya na ibig sabihin ng 2nd world ay countries na may communist government at under soviet control?

yeah we need it.. I think its such a major hassle that the ASEAN games were hosted in different sites.

In some way, okei lang yun, kaso we're an island country e.. by plane pa ang pagtravel nila..

mabuti nga yun, at least hindi lahat sa imperial manila naka-sentro yung events...peace...

Dapat siguro kung gagawa man ng olympic stadium, huwag na ang gobyerno ang gumawa nun. Ilaan na lang nila pera nila sa social services at infrastructural projects. Yung mga kapitalista at mga lokal na mamumuhunan na lang natin ang gumawa.

Dapat siguro kung gagawa man ng olympic stadium, huwag na ang gobyerno ang gumawa nun. Ilaan na lang nila pera nila sa social services at infrastructural projects. Yung mga kapitalista at mga lokal na mamumuhunan na lang natin ang gumawa.

tama

Speaking of stadiums. Yung Doha Asian Games torch ay nandito. Inikot sa boung Metro Manila boung araw then naka-ilaw ngayon yung cauldron sa mgay Quirino Grandstand.

Any pics? :)

In Cebu?

USC breaks ground for sports stadium

Around 50 people witnessed the ground breaking ceremonies for the proposed University Sports Stadium today, October 20, 2006, in Talamban Campus.

In his opening remarks, University President Fr. Roderick C. Salazar Jr., SVD spoke of the projects that the Carolinian community is looking forward to, including the Sports Stadium, the Gokongwei Brothers building for Engineering, and the Learning Resource Center. He said that these are "big dreams" and will only be realized through the help of many people.

With this, he thanked Board of Trustee member Dr. Pericles P. Dakay Jr. who has lent his equipment for the ground breaking and filling in of the proposed site.

The proposed site lies between the Health Sciences Building and the General Services Building and will boast an Olympic-sized track as designed by Institute of Planning and Design Director Archt. Ellis A. Puerto.

VP Finance Fr. Vicente L. Uy, SVD, who also serves as Athletics Director, said that the stadium is a much welcome addition to University life.

Fr. Uy mentioned the many significant sporting events that USC has won this school year, including Volleyball Women, Lawn Tennis, Swimming and Chess in the CESAFI competition. USC also finished runner-up in Men's Basketball.

The prayer service and blessing of the site was conducted by Talamban Campus chaplain Fr. Ruel S. Gado, SVD. Also in attendance were CAFA dean Omar Maxwell P. Espina and Nursing dean Antonia F. Pascual, along with several confreres including TC Administrator Fr. Jose Honorio Mateo, SVD, Fr. Mar Alingasa, SVD, Fr. Ernesto Salvar, SVD, and WRC Director Fr. Herman van Engelen, SVD. USC administrators, athletics office and general services personnel also attended the event.

http://www.usc.edu.ph/news_and_announcements/images/image48.jpg http://www.usc.edu.ph/news_and_announcements/images/image50.jpg

here's an article from sunstar last year:
http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/ceb/2005/07/21/sports/usc.to.build.soccer.stadium.rubber.oval.html

USC to build soccer stadium, rubber oval
By Mike T. Limpag
Sun.Star Correspondent

Cebuano football fans have long drooled over the manicured greens of Pana-ad Stadium while dejected at the sad state of the Cebu City Sports Center field, wondering when Cebu will finally have a decent place to play the world’s No.1 sport.

Things are sure to turn around with the planned construction of a football stadium at the University of San Carlos-Technological Center in Barangay Talamban, Cebu City.

“We have a plan to put up a football field,” said USC vice president for finance Fr. Vic Uy. “Around that we will also have a rubberized oval.”

The field, which will be behind the school’s new nursing and pharmacy building, will comply with international standards set by Fifa, the sport’s global body.

“We found out there is a minimum and maximum size for international play; ours will be in between.”

Aside from the pitch and the eight-track oval, Uy said that they will put up a grandstand to seat the fans, while one portion of the stadium will be converted into a hill.

“I based it on the one I saw in Australia. The grandstand will not cover all the field, rather one will be sort of a hill, where the fans can sit on the grass or have a picnic while they watch the games,” said Uy, the Team Cebu City chaplain during the Arafura Games in Australia last May.

Uy said they plan to start construction as soon as the master plan, which is being evaluated by their architect, is finished.

The construction of the field could also make USC one of only a few schools in the country to own an international-size pitch and a rubberized oval.

“We will open it to the public, it wont be exclusive for the school,” he said. (ML)

YEEEEESSSSSS!!!!!!! FOOTBALL FIELDS FTW!!! *ehem, arsenal fan here speaking*

lol.. i think filipinos have better chance in soccer than basketball... although I love both sports, but I think soccer has that edge over basketball in terms of physical fitness, tactics, and skills.... Pitches are amazing to watch, especially a jam packed stadium during derby matches... really amazing scene...

ahhhhh! I hope cebu becomes the philippines football capital.. since its becoming a very influential city, then I think if soccer becomes really popular here it should capture the hearts of our fellow filipinos... except for the NCR i think because basketball there is more popular.. but I may be wrong...

do people in davao actually enjoy soccer??? i lived in iligan and football is a popular sport among the school children

Speaking of stadiums. Yung Doha Asian Games torch ay nandito. Inikot sa boung Metro Manila boung araw then naka-ilaw ngayon yung cauldron sa mgay Quirino Grandstand.

Any pics? :)

Oh yeah. It started on Oct. 19th. That's cool. I wanna see some pics. :)

From Busan to Manila, Oct. 18, 2006

http://www.dohaasiangames.org/upload_iis/Images/TorchRelayPhotos/Day_11_Manila913.jpg
Arroyo receives torch from H.E. Sheikh Joaan Bin Hamad Al-Thani, the 15th Asian Games Torch Relay Ambassador at Malacanang Palace in Manila.

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Oct. 19, 2006

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A Jeepney, the automotive icon of the Philippines, carries the Doha 2006 Torch.

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Mikee Cojuangco-Jaworski and her horse carry the Doha 2006 Torch.

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Mikee in Makati!

Proudly Pinoy

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http://www.dohaasiangames.org

waw cute yung girl sa earlier pics.. ^_^

sino yung nasa market? or yung kasama ni PGMA? :D

Panaad is sole venue of '06 Asean Cup

THERE will no longer be an alternative venue when the 2006 Asean Football Cup (formerly the Tiger Cup) elimination matches are held here in Bacolod City on November 12-20 at the Panaad Sports and Recreational Park in Barangay Mansilingan.

Full Story:
http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/bac/2006/10/02/sports/panaad.is.sole.venue.of.06.asean.cup.html

crap.. we need at least 5 good stadiums in the pinas... or just maybe 2 world class fields.... this sucks... it should allow footie fans from visayas, mindanao, and luzon to access these games.... grrrrrrrrr

i guess we are badly in need of it.. have you seen the soccer field and the oval at rizal stadium? if you're an athlete, would you be motivated? i don't think so.. and we still have the gutts to host international events? God! everyone during the last sea games were complaining about the poor facilities that we have.. i love the idea though that we have the aquatics center in Los Baños.. perfect location, less the heavy traffic of cors.. build the stadium somewhere in IloIlo or Bacolod.. they'd really appreciate that.. they love the sport (football) more than the others. its not a waste of money peeps.. its an investment..

University of San Carlos (Cebu City) breaks ground for sports stadium

Around 50 people witnessed the ground breaking ceremonies for the proposed University Sports Stadium today, October 20, 2006, in Talamban Campus.

In his opening remarks, University President Fr. Roderick C. Salazar Jr., SVD spoke of the projects that the Carolinian community is looking forward to, including the Sports Stadium, the Gokongwei Brothers building for Engineering, and the Learning Resource Center. He said that these are "big dreams" and will only be realized through the help of many people.

The proposed site lies between the Health Sciences Building and the General Services Building and will boast an Olympic-sized track as designed by Institute of Planning and Design director Archt. Ellis A. Puerto.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g135/div-cebu/image48.jpg

if you want to make a football stadium, make one in cebu/negros/bacolod/ilo-ilo(due to the barotac footie popularity)

people there would make better use of these fields... i cant see any other place in the pinas which have the same amount of footie fans.. =/

it's better 2 build an international standard football stadium here in bacolod due to d popularity of the game here... BAcolod had already host the Football Games in the last 23rd SEA Games...now it will host another international football event, the ASEAN CUP formely known as TIGER CUP....aside from volleyball & basketball, Football is one of the favorite sport here in the city....

yes, i do hope the government realise this.... bacolod deserves something much better than the panaad stadium!

Bacolod named 'Football City'
HUDYAT NEGRENSE LAUNCH SET
BY CHRISTIAN IRL TAN
The Sangguniang Panlungsod has unanimously approved a resolution declaring Bacolod as "Football City" from Oct. 23-Nov. 30.

more:
http://www.visayandailystar.com/2006/October/18/sportnews1.htm

do people in davao actually enjoy soccer??? i lived in iligan and football is a popular sport among the school children

davao loves football...
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QC, PBA execs meet on proposed coliseum
By NELSON BELTRAN
The Philippine Star
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?StoryId=54841

Top officials of the Philippine Basketball Association and the Quezon City government sit down in a meeting Friday to discuss the proposed construction of the PBA coliseum in a prime land in the city.

"The PBA will express our interest while the city officials will explain their development plan," said PBA commissioner Noli Eala.

"Chairman Ricky Vargas is so serious in this project that we’ve come this far. This is part of the chairman’s long-term plans, and the PBA is really in its interesting times," Eala added.

Vargas is hopeful the league’s long-time dream to have its own home will finally be realized with giant corporations PLDT and San Miguel Corp. agreeing to lead the PBA in this project.

The league board will discuss the matter thoroughly as it holds another intensive two-day conference abroad in December.

"The board has agreed to do a long-term planning session. We’ll lay down the groundwork for things to be done in the next three to five years," said Eala.

"It’s appropriate and it’s about time. For while it’s good to get direction from the sitting chairman, it’s also nice for us to have a map that will guide us down the road," Eala added.

The future coliseum, PBA entertainment, expansion program and other revenue-generating programs are among those to be discussed in the conference.

QC, PBA execs meet on proposed coliseum
By NELSON BELTRAN
The Philippine Star
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?StoryId=54841

Top officials of the Philippine Basketball Association and the Quezon City government sit down in a meeting Friday to discuss the proposed construction of the PBA coliseum in a prime land in the city.

"The PBA will express our interest while the city officials will explain their development plan," said PBA commissioner Noli Eala.

"Chairman Ricky Vargas is so serious in this project that we’ve come this far. This is part of the chairman’s long-term plans, and the PBA is really in its interesting times," Eala added.

Vargas is hopeful the league’s long-time dream to have its own home will finally be realized with giant corporations PLDT and San Miguel Corp. agreeing to lead the PBA in this project.

The league board will discuss the matter thoroughly as it holds another intensive two-day conference abroad in December.

"The board has agreed to do a long-term planning session. We’ll lay down the groundwork for things to be done in the next three to five years," said Eala.

"It’s appropriate and it’s about time. For while it’s good to get direction from the sitting chairman, it’s also nice for us to have a map that will guide us down the road," Eala added.

The future coliseum, PBA entertainment, expansion program and other revenue-generating programs are among those to be discussed in the conference.


where in QC will this new colesium be?

Philippines does'nt need one, kasi Filipino's are not into Football, a sport which really requires a huge stadium. so building one would only be a waste of public funds. there are other projects that are more important which the gov't should focus on. pero i totally agree with you, maganda sana if we have one. pero wag na sana sa manila, masyado na crouded. Laguna would be a great spot for a structure like that. but for now, tsaga na muna sa araneta coliseum at rizal stadium. hehe

The Philippines needs one.
:)

Tingnan mo nga ang 2005 Southeast Asian Games, sa Quirino Grandstand.:ohno:

Philippines does'nt need one, kasi Filipino's are not into Football, a sport which really requires a huge stadium. so building one would only be a waste of public funds. there are other projects that are more important which the gov't should focus on. pero i totally agree with you, maganda sana if we have one. pero wag na sana sa manila, masyado na crouded. Laguna would be a great spot for a structure like that. but for now, tsaga na muna sa araneta coliseum at rizal stadium. hehe

also, stadiums aren't just for football...

also, stadiums aren't just for football...

Yeah, you've seen how DPRK uses their stadium..

stadiums = offices too you know... theres always a side in the stadium which can contain office space, can be used by the sports admin in the local area or any other related things... =/ plus stadiums arent just about football.. heck, you can even use it for concerts

yep sa pagplano lang yan, football stadiums designed well can be converted.

it is better to expand the Panaad Stadium. To make a full round seats.

also the Paglaum Stadium in Bacolod also. I heard it in the news that they will make them a master planned stadium.

PBA, QC government start talks on coliseum
The Philippine Star 11/04/2006
http://www.philstar.com/philstar/NEWS200611041603.htm

The Philippine Basketball Association and the Quezon City government under Mayor Sonny Belmonte may soon enter into a partnership for a mega project, the proposed PBA coliseum at the heart of a civic center envisioned to become Quezon City’s new landmark.

The two parties discussed the idea in an initial meeting at the Quezon City Hall yesterday.

"The mayor was enthusiastic in welcoming the PBA project in the city. We discussed the possibility of a joint venture or straight-out lease of a property," said Eala on their meeting with Belmonte.

"The mayor showed us their plan for the development of the Quezon City triangle. They look open to the idea of developing a civic center going with our coliseum," Eala added.

In the meeting also attended by PBA board chairman Ricky Vargas and legal counsel Melvin Mendoza, the city officials specified three possible sites for the project. One is the present location of the Manila Seedling Bank, second the North Triangle area already being developed by the Ayalas and third the area bound by Quezon ave., EDSA and Agham Road.

"The next step is to get in touch with the property owners or the property rights holders. We’re told two properties are owned by the National Housing Authority," said Eala.

Eala said the Quezon City government appeared keen on a joint venture with the PBA having a budget surplus of P4 billion, gained under the stewardship of Belmonte.

As far as the PBA is concerned, Eala said the league executive board has been given the go-signal to pursue the project in line with several programs the league is planning to undertake soon.

"I was tasked to present the whole plan for this project in December. The report would include the site selection, financial proposal and business mode," said Eala.

Eala thought they could finish site selection by January, present the study on how to fund the project by March and do the ground-breaking in July.

"Finally realizing our long dream of having our own coliseum is now more realistic than ever. We’re excited since several companies have pledged all-out support in this endeavor," said Eala.

"I don’t see hitches because we can put equity then the rest can be funded by loans. The PBA is debt-free and any bank would be happy to loan us funds," Eala added. — Nelson Beltran

A related article from the above post...

thats a coliseum not a stadium

it is better to expand the Panaad Stadium. To make a full round seats.

also the Paglaum Stadium in Bacolod also. I heard it in the news that they will make them a master planned stadium.

I agree... Panaad has a big potential to become d best stadium in d phil....

thats a coliseum not a stadium

yup....thats a coliseum....

goodness.... i really do hope that within the next three years we'd see a 40,000+ (all-seater) capacity stadium complete with 8 lanes of rubberized tracks plus jumping pits, football field .... and a roof!

^^hoping and dreaming of the same, maybe at least one for each mega region...

davao loves football...
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but this football field will be transformed into a city park:

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davao sports complex will rise soon at up mindanao:
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Panaad Stadium is sole venue of '06 Asean Cup

THERE will no longer be an alternative venue when the 2006 Asean Football Cup (formerly the Tiger Cup) elimination matches are held here in Bacolod City on November 12-20 at the Panaad Sports and Recreational Park in Barangay Mansilingan.

The event is hosted by the Negros occidental Football Association (NOFA) headed by Representative Carlos O. Cojuangco (fourth district, Negros Occidental). cont'd @ http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/bac/2006/10/02/sports/panaad.is.sole.venue.of.06.asean.cup.html

having trouble posting

^^ What happened to the photo?

kala ko pa naman may updates.... magtatanong lang pala kung anong nangyari sa photos.. hmph!!

hehe joke lang:lol:

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I haven't visited other stadiums in the Phil, and want to see what they look like. I've googled it but can't find pictures only a list from www.worldstadiums.com. So if you have pictures lying around , you could maybe post them here :)

Stadiums in the
Philippines

A 3 Tenant/use City Stadium Capacity Built Seats

PHL National Stadium Manila José Rizal Memorial Stadium 30 000 1934 -

PHL National Stadium Manila Ninoy Aquino Stadium 25 000 - -
PHL Indoor Sports Quezon City Araneta Coliseum 22 000 1959 all-seater

PHL Negros Occidental Selection Bacolod Pana-ad Stadium 15 000 1999 -
PHL Quezon Selection Quezon City Amoranto Stadium 15 000 - -
PHL Indoor Sports Pasig City Philsports Arena 15 000 - all-seater
PHL Iloilo Selection Iloilo Iloilo Sports Complex 10 000 - -
PHL Zamboanga City Selection Zamboanga City Enriquez Memorial S.C. 10 000 - -
PHL Cebu Selection Cebu Cebu City Sports Complex 10 000 - -
PHL Multi-use Pampanga Pampanga Sports Complex 10 000 - -
PHL Multi-use Isabela Isabela Sports Complex 10 000 - -
PHL Indoor Sports Pasay City Cuneta Astrodome 10 000 - all-seater
PHL Pasig Rizal Pirates Pasig City Pasig City Sports Center 10 000 - -
PHL Indoor Sports Zamboanga Zamboanga Coliseum 5 000 - -
PHL Zamboanga del Sur Selection Pagadian City Teachers Association Stad. 5 000 - -
PHL Zamboanga del Norte Selection Dipolog Zamb. del N. Sports Stadium 5 000 - -
PHL Cag. de Oro-Misamis Oriental Cagayan de Oro Regional Football Field 5 000 - -
PHL Indoor Sports Dumaguete Macias Sports Center 4 000 1991 all-seater
PHL Negros Oriental Selection Dumaguete Silliman Univ. Football Field 2 000 - -
PHL Swimming-use Dumaguete L.G. Teves Mem. Aqua Center 1 775 - all-seater




Hey bro, dont forget that Camarines Sur in Bicol has two sports complex both of them are big. One is Metro Naga Sports Complex & the Freedom Park Sports Complex in Pili Camarines Sur. Two Palarong Pambansa were already held in those sports complexes. In addition to that a big coliseum is being constructed now in Naga City, if i am not mistaken it can accommodate 12,000 capacity

worldstadiums.com is a very good source of stadium information but i dont think it gets updated every so often so more or less that list is not comprehensive.

ill try to post the pics of the freedom park and metro naga when i find them,

Hey bro, dont forget that Camarines Sur in Bicol has two sports complex both of them are big. One is Metro Naga Sports Complex & the Freedom Park Sports Complex in Pili Camarines Sur. Two Palarong Pambansa were already held in those sports complexes. In addition to that a big coliseum is being constructed now in Naga City, if i am not mistaken it can accommodate 12,000 capacity

Correct. Plus the Albay Astrodome and Ibalon Centrum for Recreation, both in Albay.

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this is a project of Gov. Gwen Garci when she was at Ormoc...

but sayang, di daw masyadong nagagamit...

i hope Ormoc grows to be something like Cebu, since its like my second hometown...

Do they have retractable stadium/arena roofs in the Philippines?

stadiums like those in Beiging for the 2008 Olympics.

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stadiums = offices too you know... theres always a side in the stadium which can contain office space, can be used by the sports admin in the local area or any other related things... =/ plus stadiums arent just about football.. heck, you can even use it for concerts
lol rod laver arena here in melbourne is used for tennis, concerts and in march will become a swim centre for the swimming world championships ... ahhh the joy of versatility :lol:

We really need one.

Even Vietnam (2004 SEAG host) has a world class stadium. Did anyone notice that Vietnam hauled so many medals this past 2 SEA Games? Is it just a coincidence that their strong sports performance started when they had this world-class sports facilities?

Napapag-iwanan na tayo. A few years from now, baka bigla na lang tayong mabulabog sa balita na Cambodia or Myanmar is building a world class stadium.

^ahahaha... halos mahulog ako sa kakatawa nung nabsa ko yung last sentence.

We will have one in due time. The economy is picking up and pag nagtuloy tuloy, the country can afford to build one. Malay natin, baka pag nagpatayo tayo in the future, di lang iisang stadium kundi isang world class sports complex, yung kumpleto :okay:

^ It's not about the winning, it's about the enjoyment ;)

Winning is not everything. It's the only thing.

We really need one.

Even Vietnam (2004 SEAG host) has a world class stadium. Did anyone notice that Vietnam hauled so many medals this past 2 SEA Games? Is it just a coincidence that their strong sports performance started when they had this world-class sports facilities?

Napapag-iwanan na tayo. A few years from now, baka bigla na lang tayong mabulabog sa balita na Cambodia or Myanmar is building a world class stadium.

Dude, you got wrong info. Vietnam hosted the 22nd SEA Games in 2003. The reason why they hauled medals: rampant cheating and introduction of their very own fin swimming.:bash:

well that's not the topic here.

Thanks for the correction @czarina. I was counting backwards kasi thinking that Manila hosted the 2006 games, last quarte of 2005 pala yun.

Anyways, despite the controversy, we still cannot discount the fact that Vietnam's standing in the medal tally is improving ever since. In the recent Manila games, they were 3rd in the medal standings behind the host Phils and perennial SEA powerhouse Thailand.

I just can't help thinking that their excellent sports facilitiies has something to do with their athletes' improvement. It's a good motivation having to train in a very conducive training environment.

Well, definitely the Philippines needs a world class stadium to cater international sporting events....

i thought sm will build a world class arena this yr?

^^ I agree with this thread, we need a world class stadium. kakahiya last SEAG in Pinas, I think that's the only SEAG na hindi ginanap sa stadium ang opening and closing ceremonies. SM will build a sport complex in the bay area but I think it's more like a colossium than a stadium.

Sana meron tayong world class futurstic stadium like dun sa Beijing. Maybe they can build it off the shore of Manila Bay. Wala pa naman stadium na tinayo sa gitna ng dagat diba :lol:

^^ Pano tayo makapunta sa stadium kung nasa gitna ng dagat?

^^ Have you seen the megaproject in Shanghai, they are building the longest bridge in the world. In the middle of the bridge they are planning to build a tower and make it as a tourism spot. I'm Thinking that we can also build that right? but not too far from the shore maybe 200 - 500 meters just for a change on a typical stadium. :lol: Then you have access through bridges. very expensive though.

^^ none of it exists here...

Bacolod Paglaum Sports Complex is now renamed to Bacolod City Stadium. Bacolod called as a "Football City of the Philippines".

Rumor has it that a bigger and more modern sports complex than the Rizal Memorial Complex, which will serve as the prime showcase of Philippine sports, is being planned to be constructed either in the Pasay Reclamation Area or in Clark Field, Pampanga.

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I was just at Dodger Stadium to watch the Dodgers/Padres game. It's my third time at the stadium (Dodgers had won every time I was there.) Well anyway, The stadium itself seats 56,000 people, which is just about 1/10 the population of Makati. If you think Araneta Coloseum (which seats just under 18000) is huge, then you've probably never been to a baseball/football stadium. Right now, I'm not sure if there's a demand for such size of a stadium in the Philippines. We don't have football or baseball teams and it wouldn't make any sense to create a stadium of that size for watching basketball, boxing, religious events, or concerts. There must be enough middle/upper class people that enjoy either sports to create a stadium of that size.

BACOLOD CITY STADIUM (Formerly Paglaum Sports Complex)

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^^ We have a football and a baseball team. We're not doing well in them, but we have them.

Here's my idea for a new sports complex for the Phillippines:

Stadium 70000
Indoor Stadium-25000
Aquatic Centre-10000
Tennis Centre-12000
Velodrome-6000

The sports complex would be built in the Pasay Reclamation Area.

unless we could build decent classrooms for our children, and enough hospitals to cater to the needs of the sick, then the philippines has no need for a world class stadium...let's face it, sports does not have that huge of an impact in improving our economy...true, it does gives the filipino spirit a chance to shine and give honor to the country...but in the end of the day, it's nothing more than simple diversions to keep hungry juan happy...

^^ Hosting big sporting events can get Philippines on the map.

Incheon was chosen as the host of the 2014 Asian Games on April 17, 2007.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Asian_Games

Plano ng Philippine Olympic Committee na mag-alok para maidaos sa Pilipinas sa 2018 ang Asian Games.

Ayon kay POC Chairman Robert Aventajado – hindi malayong mangyari ito kung makakalikom ng kinakailangang pondo para sa nasabing palaro.

Tatlong bilyong dolyar ang sinasabing ginastos ng Doha Qatar para maidaos sa kanilang bansa ang 15th Asian games.

Ang nasabing pondo ay ginugol sa pagpapagawa ng mga bagong sports facilities gaya ng Olympic size swimming pool, state-of-the-arts track and field at makabagong sports complex.

Inaasahan naman na mananalo ang India sa susunod na Asian Games kaya sinabi ng POC na marapat lang na tayo na ang sumunod.

Noong 1952, idinaos sa India ang Asian Games at noong 1954 ay sa Pilipinas ginawa ang 2nd Asian Games kung saan humakot ang mga pinoy athletes ng 14 gold, 14 silver at 17 bronze.

SOURCE: http://www.rmn.ph/sports/2018-asian-games-posible-ayon-sa-poc

10 Years

didnt the philippines hosted the asian games before

2014 will be in Incheon, Korea. How I wish 2014 would be ours. Manila dominated the Far Eastern Championship Games as a host city. Bring that honor back to the only Pearl of the Orient.

hahaha, san naman kaya pupulot ng $3B ang Philippines to build and fix everything?? Kung may pera si Aventajado siya na lang magpagawa...

didnt the philippines hosted the asian games before

The 2nd Asian Games back in 1954.

At this point, I would rather have the Philippines bag more medals then aspire to host the Asian Games.

It would be best if the Philippines got any gold medals at all in the olympics.

It would be best if the Philippines got any gold medals at all in the olympics.

oh how i wish... Someday man... someday :)

It's so infuriating that we have received no gold medal in the entire history of the Olympic games, yung kapitbahay nating hell-bent on proving na cheaters tayo sa last SEA Games, naka 5 na sila, patid din yung kapitbahay natin sa baba. How I wish we could even scrap one this 2008. But honestly, I'm not hopeful.

hahaha, san naman kaya pupulot ng $3B ang Philippines to build and fix everything?? Kung may pera si Aventajado siya na lang magpagawa...

baka ipa sauli yung bayad sa terminal 3? :bash:

Bakit pag tayo nag hohost ng games tayo ang nananalo pero pag nakilahok tayo sa ibang palaro parang... waahhh wala kwenta team...
did we really cheeeeeaaat?

^^ That's called "homecourt advantage." Now, as to whether it's cheating per se, well then that's still up for debate. :colgate:

It's so infuriating that we have received no gold medal in the entire history of the Olympic games, yung kapitbahay nating hell-bent on proving na cheaters tayo sa last SEA Games, naka 5 na sila, patid din yung kapitbahay natin sa baba. How I wish we could even scrap one this 2008. But honestly, I'm not hopeful.

walakasing budget kaya mababa ang moral

I don't know if any body has posted this yet but a few weeks later, the OCA (Olympiuc Council of Asia) has already voted and has awarded the hosting rights for the 2014 Asian Games to the city of Incheon in South Korea. Bit disappointing really, I had my bet to New Delhi as I thought geopolitics favored them. One thing is for sure, that voting will go down as one of the most controversial decisions OCA did.

Another thing is that the country has been awarded the hosting rights of the 4th Asian Beach Games (sanctioned by the OCA) to be held in Boracay in 2014, after Bali (1st) in 2008, Oman (2nd) in 2010, and Haiyang, China in 2012. No matter how small the event is, can you imagine the preparations needed for the visitors? Can you already picture the image it would get us in the international community?

Next, I believe that the country would be able to host the Olympics, hopefully within my lifetime. That thought was the driving reason why I chose to do a sports complex for my thesis.

On the money issue:

Yes, hosting an international sporting event whether it be the Olympics or the Asian Games entails big spending but we should also see that expenditure as an investment fro the future.

Yes, the Philippines is a poor country - but not that poor. "We have a lot more to think about rather than hosting something like that" - true to a certain extent, but so does the previous hosts of the Games. If we look to Thailand, who is arguably within striking distance in terms of economic performance, they have managed to host five Asian Games, and is now seriously thinking of putting forth an Olympic bid for 2016. Heck they have stadiums that are the envy of the region which were built for these events and are now being enjoyed by their citizens. One thing that risen from Thailand's hosting experiences is an improved tourism culture for its people.

Hosting the Games is not all about white elephants, and beautifications. Its an international event that will put us at the spotlight. We, being extremely "creative" people can manipulate the Games for our advantage whether in the publicity or the economic benefits.

And lastly, if we are to woo the IOC in choosing us as host we could easily argue that a bid from third world nation such as ours will send a statement that the Olympic Movement (Asian Games Movement as well) is not the monopoly of the rich. By virtue of that, we already have a solid foundation for our bid All we need to do is to put backing for the effort.

We give our city far too less credit that we tend to downgrade its possible international appeal. An international sporting event like the Olympics or the Asian GAmes if executed well, will leave us a legacy of improved infrastructures, an ivigorated image, and a big morale booster for the country last seen only during the Centennial celebrations of 1998.

Agree?


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And lastly, if we are to woo the IOC in choosing us as host we could easily argue that a bid from third world nation such as ours will send a statement that the Olympic Movement (Asian Games Movement as well) is not the monopoly of the rich. By virtue of that, we already have a solid foundation for our bid.

Sounds like you're counting on the IOC/OCA to give the Philippines a "pity vote" just for the sake of having us host an Olympic/Asian Games.

Not neccessarily, but it does touch on that. Essentially we must remind the IOC that it is a movement of countries not defined by their economics. True their criteria for selection has finances in check, it would be important to question what the direction of the movement should go to. London is having finacial problems in the process of their preparations, Essentially, hosting the Games has become a financial woe and the essence of the Olympic Movement is put to question.

In the near future, if finances will continue to dictate the hosting selection of the Games then maybe we should just do a rotation of regular cities. I am very sure there will come a time that even first world nations will back-out at the mere idea of hosting if the trend is to tell us that it gets expensive every single time.

Does this mean that I suggest cutting back on glitz and glamour? partly. But what my suggestion in using that third-world argument is a valid one.

In my mind here is how it plays out: We do use that as an argument but we come up with the best we could put up financially, and its been said before that a lot could be done for so less. Again the concept of expenditures as investment comes into play here. If they go for it then superb, if not, then just return four years later and improve on it.

Another approach is to not use that 3rd world argument, But come on, in the discussions of the selection process, its very impossible that that idea would not even come up. If it does gather sympathy votes then we win.

Though technically, i'll admit that not so much 3rd world cities have even closed in the final five, so many bids remained very appetizing. The third world charm works magic as well. Imagine the Games coming to HAvana, Cairo, Nairobi, and now Monterrey, Mexico for 2016. Example: One of the contenders for the Commonwealth Games of 2014 is Abuja,Nigeria, they're up against Halifax, Canada (which withdrew recently), and Glassgow, Scotland.

I'm sorry, if Im get to whipped up, I really want to see us something like this and I really beleive we can.

hosting an Olympic or Asian required more than just money my friend, apart from lostsa pera we need sporting culture!!!

I list down the sports that we currently worship and excel (you're welcome to add):

basketball
boxing
pool
billiard
golf
cricket
bowling
cycling
.
.
.

apart from excelling in sports listed above i want to ask you, what sporting event that is truly world class we have organized? Forget Asian games in the 50's we're in the new millennium now.

Let's take a look at our neighbors :

Singapore : First Formula one night race, street circuit, currently building state-of-the-art sports complex, ASEAN football champion, Badminton Singapore Open, and other sports

Thailand : Asiad 1998, Rajamangala Stadium,highest FIFA ranking ASEAN team, mature local football league, good sporting venues, world beater in boxing (won a gold medal) etc

Indonesia : Badminton powerhouse ..... add to the list

Malaysia : Formula 1, Commonwealth Games 1998, good sporting venues, 2 olympic size multi purpose stadium, world beaters (squash, badminton) A1 grand prix, MotoGP, Le Tour de Langkawi (highest rated cycling event in Asia).

Phils? world pool champion? snooker? boxing. we do have sporting culture but what i see we are lacking is the spirit to involve in more olympic events.

Start by organising class event first, for instance, philippines tennis open, badminton, squash, bowling etc etc before bidding for asiad. it will help instill sporting culture into our community which in turn will attract crowd when the time comes for Asiad.

Thailand and Malaysia wouldnt have problem to organise asiad in a month notice, for us, rizal stadium, wont even fit for SEA games opening ceremony

but a good start by having u guys here.

Sporting culture you say? Showbiz culture is more like it.

as for showbiz culture i can say that we are second to none in ASEAN. Our soaps doing very well all over the world. If only we can replicate that in our sporting culture.

I still dreaming about having Philippines Open for badminton.

I wish they did the joint bid with Pyongyang.

^no, it is better with Dili

I didn't want it for the better, I just would have been extremely interested in it if it happened.

Although gusto ko talaga ung Asian Games to be held in the Phils. I think na it would just be a waste of money, when we should spend it on more important issues in the country. Maybe someday, maybe someday:|

I still dreaming about having Philippines Open for badminton.

There is a Philippines Open that is part of the schedule of tournaments of the International Badminton Federation. It is a Four Star tournanent, with the highest being a Seven Star.

Although gusto ko talaga ung Asian Games to be held in the Phils. I think na it would just be a waste of money, when we should spend it on more important issues in the country. Maybe someday, maybe someday:|

We already hosted in 1954. Hosting the games will put Manila (or the Philippines in the case of multiple venues :nuts:) on the map.

hosting an Olympic or Asian required more than just money my friend, apart from lostsa pera we need sporting culture!!!

I list down the sports that we currently worship and excel (you're welcome to add):

basketball
boxing
pool
billiard
golf
cricket
bowling
cycling
.
.
.

apart from excelling in sports listed above i want to ask you, what sporting event that is truly world class we have organized? Forget Asian games in the 50's we're in the new millennium now.

Let's take a look at our neighbors :

Singapore : First Formula one night race, street circuit, currently building state-of-the-art sports complex, ASEAN football champion, Badminton Singapore Open, and other sports

Thailand : Asiad 1998, Rajamangala Stadium,highest FIFA ranking ASEAN team, mature local football league, good sporting venues, world beater in boxing (won a gold medal) etc

Indonesia : Badminton powerhouse ..... add to the list

Malaysia : Formula 1, Commonwealth Games 1998, good sporting venues, 2 olympic size multi purpose stadium, world beaters (squash, badminton) A1 grand prix, MotoGP, Le Tour de Langkawi (highest rated cycling event in Asia).

Phils? world pool champion? snooker? boxing. we do have sporting culture but what i see we are lacking is the spirit to involve in more olympic events.

Start by organising class event first, for instance, philippines tennis open, badminton, squash, bowling etc etc before bidding for asiad. it will help instill sporting culture into our community which in turn will attract crowd when the time comes for Asiad.

Thailand and Malaysia wouldnt have problem to organise asiad in a month notice, for us, rizal stadium, wont even fit for SEA games opening ceremony

but a good start by having u guys here.

well aside from the 2005 seagames, there was the Asian footbal qualifiers (2007).... and the boxing match held in cebu....

we just have to work hard on it... and find a proper place to put up a good stadium..

well aside from the 2005 seagames, there was the Asian footbal qualifiers (2007).... and the boxing match held in cebu....

we just have to work hard on it... and find a proper place to put up a good stadium..

^^ That was only an ASEAN football qualifier and not Asian. It's actually one of the world's lowest level of football qualifers since it's only for the Southeast Asian championships and we only hosted the qualifiers for the ASEAN minnows such as Timor Leste, Cambodia, Brunei, Laos. We did get past the qualifiers but we didn't top the qualifiers (just second behind Laos).

^^ oh yeah sorry for the mispell...

and our performance really was dismal, we should really give more focus on football ( wala tayong pag-asa sa basket )

but the hosting was good, the foreigners had good things to say,... I know I was there :colgate:

I believe that our economic stagnation in the latter part of the last century destroyed everything in the Philippines, including sporting events. I was browsing Wikipedia last night and was shocked to dicover that the oldest golf competition in the Asian Tour is the Philippine Open, inaugurated sometime in the 1910's. We were also one of the pioneers in the Far-Eastern Championship Games, percursor to the Asian Games, the Asian Games itself and the FIBA Asia Champions Cup among others. We have produced so many champions in the past, most particularly in the sport of basketball, in fact we have the best Asian performance in the FIBA World Championships with a bronze in 1954. The football team of the Philippines is Asia's oldest, although we were never very good in that sport. There are lots more.

Look at how illustrious our sporting career as a nation was in the past, and now, we are always perennial losers in everything, except with a few, minor exceptions. Haay, sana nalang maayos na talaga ang economy naten para maibalik lahat ng glory and grandeur na pinanghawakan ng Pilipinas sa nakaraan.

^^ Like how many Filipinos say it... matanda na.!

I hope we get better though.

Malaysia gonna have manchester united - worlds biggest football club by fan base coming to play pre season this summer, Hong Kong and Japan too..a little bit of information too Malaysia is Manchester top asian destination, having played there more than any other Asian countries.

Singapore's gonna have first F1 night race next year.

Bangkok too played host for FAPL Asian Cup last year where 4 of premier league teams play for this tournament as a marketing stratregy. Prior to that Malaysia played host in 2003 (and i attended the game).

Philippines Open is not a major Super Series tournament. Singapore, Indonesia, and Malaysia have their leg. All already played. World Championship will be held in KL this September.

Apart from San Miguel snooker@billiard (i'm really illiterate in this snob sports), and golf Philippines Open? what major events that bring biggest name in the world ever been held organised in the philippines recently? I never heard tiger woods came here (sorry if it's a wrong info). He played in Singapore, Thailand and Malaysia. In philippines?

Formula BMW maybe. Asian Touring Car Championship. Anyone wanna add my info??

People said we're crazy about basketball but i didnt see any big shot Houston Rockets, Chicago Bulls, Boston Celtics,New Jersey Nets,New York Knicks,Philadelphia 76ers, Toronto Raptors coming and showing their stuff here.

We need events first, bring on the big name to play here. Ohhh how i wish.

"basketball, boxing, pool, billiard, golf, cricket, bowling, cycling"

Cricket? Britain stayed in the Philippines only for a very short time to enable them to propagate cricket.

In any barber shop in the Philippines you will see chess and dama. Also since we are an archipelago, it is natural to have swimming as one of our past time. Baseball and soccer are even played in some parts of the Philippines, but not cricket.

Malaysia gonna have manchester united - worlds biggest football club by fan base coming to play pre season this summer, Hong Kong and Japan too..a little bit of information too Malaysia is Manchester top asian destination, having played there more than any other Asian countries.

Singapore's gonna have first F1 night race next year.

Bangkok too played host for FAPL Asian Cup last year where 4 of premier league teams play for this tournament as a marketing stratregy. Prior to that Malaysia played host in 2003 (and i attended the game).

Philippines Open is not a major Super Series tournament. Singapore, Indonesia, and Malaysia have their leg. All already played. World Championship will be held in KL this September.

Apart from San Miguel snooker@billiard (i'm really illiterate in this snob sports), and golf Philippines Open? what major events that bring biggest name in the world ever been held organised in the philippines recently? I never heard tiger woods came here (sorry if it's a wrong info). He played in Singapore, Thailand and Malaysia. In philippines?

Formula BMW maybe. Asian Touring Car Championship. Anyone wanna add my info??

People said we're crazy about basketball but i didnt see any big shot Houston Rockets, Chicago Bulls, Boston Celtics,New Jersey Nets,New York Knicks,Philadelphia 76ers, Toronto Raptors coming and showing their stuff here.

We need events first, bring on the big name to play here. Ohhh how i wish.

Tiger Woods already played here, at the Mimosa Golf and Country Club in Clark, Pampanga. This is according to Kris Aquino in Game Ka na Ba?

Our SEA neighbors are having the time of their lives in sports, we had ours already in the past but too bad, we Filipinos did not exert effort to ensure our consistency.

i think people are too busy spending their time in politics than in sports. Pacman too..

true....

RP Open fitting tune-up for world tourney

Monday, June 25, 2007

The $120,000 Bingo Bonanza Philippine Open Badminton Championships slated July 18-22 at the Philsports Arena serves as the last major tournament before the World Championships, thus making it a “must” event for those priming up for the world tilt.

The RP Open, which also serves as an Olympic Qualifying tournament where players shoot for important ranking points to qualify for next year’s Beijing Olympiad, has attracted 30 countries and a record 425 players vying in five divisions, including the men’s and women’s singles, the men’s and ladies doubles and the mixed doubles.

The RP Open will be played after the Thailand Open, another Grand Prix Gold event set July 3-8 in Bangkok and the China Super Series July 10-15 in Chengdu City with the World Championships in August in Malaysia.

Chen Hong, the world’s No. 3 from China, is the top draw in the men’s side that has lured 107 players, including 18 Filipinos who also chase world ranking points in the event sponsored by Bingo Bonanza and organized by IMG.

Other world ranking players in the fold are No. 4 Lee Chong Wei of Malaysia, No. 6 Bao Chunlai of China, No. 10 Shoji Sato of Japan, Indon reigning Olympic and Asian Games champion and No. 11 Taufik Hidayat, No. 13 Sony Dwi Kuncoro, also of Indonesia (men’s singles);

World No. 5 Huaiwen Xu of Germany, France’s No. 6 Pi Hongyan, No. 11 Mew Choo Wong of Malaysia, No. 12 Eriko Hirose of Japan, and No. 13 Pui Yin Yip of Hong Kong (women’s singles);

World No. 5 men’s doubles pair of Tony Gunawan of the US and Indon Candra Wijaya; No. 12 Susanto Njoto and Hadikusumo Wiratama of Hong Kong; No. 14 Shuichi Sakamoto and Shintaro Ikeda of Japan and No. 15 Keita Masuda and Tadashi Ohtsuka of Japan;

World No. 5 women’s singles tandem of Wen Hsing Cheng and Yu Chin Chien of Taiwan; No. 9 Kumiko Ogura and Reiko Shiota of Japan and No. 11 Tomomi Matsuda and Aki Akao, also of Japan.

The RP Open is backed by Snickers, Solar Sports (official broadcaster), Holiday Inn Galleria Manila and The Richmonde (official hotels) and Victor, exclusively distributed by Pcome Industrial Sales, Inc. and held under the auspices of PBA.

The local cast is headed by the brother-sister tandem of Kennie and Kennevic Asuncion.

I cant find any Philippine sports thread that's why i post here.

Anyone want to go to the Philippine Open? Perhaps some picture will be much appreciated.

I'm so glad that we have the Philippine Open in badminton. It's actually a Four Star tournament, same as the prestigious All-England Open and higher than the Thailand Open, which is 3 stars. The stars don't really mean anything though, as it only refers to prize money. The All-England is the 2nd biggest tournament that isn't the World Championships or Olympics because of the history. Thailand Open has more history than the Philippine Open, since PO is only a few years old. But anyway, I'm just glad that the Philippines has its own badminton tournament.

Is badminton still really popular in the Philippines? I haven't seen any in the international field besides the Asuncions. We need to train our young players so that we have possible future champions.

are you sure? The biggest is Thomas Cup and Uber Cup. For mixed team event it's Sudirman Cup. All England is not the biggest but they're one of the most prestigious because of tradition.

The BWF Super Series is a new badminton tournament introduced by Badminton World Federation (BWF) in order to improve the quality of the sport. It was launched on December 14, 2006 and implemented in 2007.The second-tiered badminton tournament is played in twelve countries, with successful players invited to the Super Series final held at the year end.

Super Series 2007:

All England • China • China Masters • Denmark • France • Hong Kong • Indonesia • Japan • Korea • Malaysia • Singapore • Swiss

All Super Series tournaments will offer a minimum prize of USD$200,000. The Super Series will offer the prize money regardless of the round from which a player is ousted, unless they go out in the qualification round. This is a new concept in badminton tournaments, and already implemented at the first Super Series held in Malaysia.

So Philippines Open is not in the same league as All England.

are you sure? The biggest is Thomas Cup and Uber Cup. For mixed team event it's Sudirman Cup. All England is not the biggest but they're one of the most prestigious because of tradition.

The BWF Super Series is a new badminton tournament introduced by Badminton World Federation (BWF) in order to improve the quality of the sport. It was launched on December 14, 2006 and implemented in 2007.The second-tiered badminton tournament is played in twelve countries, with successful players invited to the Super Series final held at the year end.

Super Series 2007:

All England • China • China Masters • Denmark • France • Hong Kong • Indonesia • Japan • Korea • Malaysia • Singapore • Swiss

All Super Series tournaments will offer a minimum prize of USD$200,000. The Super Series will offer the prize money regardless of the round from which a player is ousted, unless they go out in the qualification round. This is a new concept in badminton tournaments, and already implemented at the first Super Series held in Malaysia.

So Philippines Open is not in the same league as All England.

I didn't say the Philippines Open were in the same league as the All England. I just said that they were both Four Star tournaments, before when the Super Series tournament system were implemented in 2007, meaning they had equal/similar prize money but of course the prestige is definitely not even close. All England is the one that most players strive for, besides the World Championships and Olympics.

Thomas Cup, Uber Cup, and Sudirman Cup are all team events. All the badminton powers such as China, Indonesia, Korea, Malaysia, etc. and other countries such as England, Japan, Thailand, Singapore, and the rest put their national teams against each other to win the cup. Obviously, these are prestigious events that win glory for their countries. But there is no prize money in these team events, they are mostly for national pride, team unity, and to create more competition. For the individual players, the World Championships, Olympics, All England, and the other Super Series are the titles they compete for. Now, the Super Series Final at the end of the year is a new event that they will strive to win. I think it will eventually be up there with the World Championships, Olympics, and All England as the biggest tournaments for INDIVIDUAL players.

You're from Malaysia? Malaysia is quicky becoming one of the top countries in badminton. No one is even close to China though.

Badminton is a tradition in Malaysia. We won Thomas Cup in 1992. Long time ago. Come close on 2000. Won medals in Olympic (silver and bronze), Used to have number one single and double players. Now their ranking is improving.

By the way i live in Malaysia for 12 years.

Badminton is a tradition in Malaysia. We won Thomas Cup in 1992. Long time ago. Come close on 2000. Won medals in Olympic (silver and bronze), Used to have number one single and double players. Now their ranking is improving.

By the way i live in Malaysia for 12 years.

Yeah, I know that Malaysia is one of the badminton nations. But they're recently had a resurgence in their players, especially in men's doubles and singles.

pero sa totoo lang, magandang mag bid ang Philippines for an olympic event (asian games or whatever)

kasi hindi tayo kumikilos kung hindi naman natin kaylangan mag pa impress

look at the CEBU CONVENTION CENTER

ano ba yan dati
pero nung sinabi na gaganapin sa Philippines ang ASEAN
bigla naman patayo sila

interesting enough Philippine mixed double pair is ranked at number 31 (they were inside top 20 months ago)

ASUNCION Kennevic
ASUNCION Kennie

i think they should join any Malaysian club so that they will have money to compete in tournaments and have better training.

pero sa totoo lang, magandang mag bid ang Philippines for an olympic event (asian games or whatever)

kasi hindi tayo kumikilos kung hindi naman natin kaylangan mag pa impress

look at the CEBU CONVENTION CENTER

ano ba yan dati
pero nung sinabi na gaganapin sa Philippines ang ASEAN
bigla naman patayo sila


^^ It all boils down to having the funds available. There's no doubt we can impress the heck out of them, but having the money to do it is another story.

From BWF website. Below are tournament classifications. Philippines Open fall on GP Gold Series. Thai Open also in this category.Both offer $120,000 prize. But players are skipping Thai Open because they need to relax and be ready for World Championships in Kuala Lumpur in August. They also want to concentrate on China Super Series which offer bigger prize money and more ranking points.

1.BWF Events
BWF Events
2.S.Series
Super Series
3.GP Gold
Grand Prix Gold
4.GP
Grand Prix
5.Int.Cha.
International Challenge
6.Int.Ser.
International Series
7.Fut.Ser.
Future Series

Another badminton event which will be held in Manila is $120,000 MVP Cup Asia vs Europe (21-23 August)

With regards to Asiad Bid i think our country is not ready yet. Sporting facilities especially the main stadium is in shameful state. But with money everything will be fine. Maybe in 10 years? I dont know...there's no plan for Olympic class stadium to be built in the future.

Yes, peeps, the main thing that is lacking i think more than money, is the supposed absence of a "sporting culture". That I think is one of the biggest question marks that weighs in in my thesis, but I feel that that absence is all the more reason for us build not a decwent sports complex don't you agree.

I have always beleived in resurgence and I think that our sporting culture is one thing that can be revived. We have been a sporting powerhouse in the past, and there is no reason why that cannot happen again in the future. It's all a matter of political will in enjoining people into sports. And part and parcel of that will is provision for sporting spaces.

First, I think that the governments hould really focus their sights in Olympic Sports. Let basketball and other money-generating sports fend off for themselves.

It has been saod before that we should be playing to our strengths as a nation and by that we should really give more importance to sports which makes good use of our agile and petitie frame, and our abundant bodies of water.

Anywho, enough segue, since Delhi lost to Incheon for the 2014 Asian Games, that thwarts the reasoning that Manila is supposedly trying to bid in for the 2018 edition because we hosted right after Delhi in 1954. Pathetic parallelism really.

Maybe its time to set our hosting skills on 2014 when we host the 4th Asian Beach Games in Boracay by then. Whoa! that's a long time to go.

i talked about sporting culture in my previous post in sports/athletes thread but nobody seems to take notice.

How many pages major newspaper and tabloids in the Philippines set aside for sporting news? that's the first impression of lacking in sporting culture in the Philippines.

Anywho, enough segue, since Delhi lost to Incheon for the 2014 Asian Games, that thwarts the reasoning that Manila is supposedly trying to bid in for the 2018 edition because we hosted right after Delhi in 1954. Pathetic parallelism really.

Maybe its time to set our hosting skills on 2014 when we host the 4th Asian Beach Games in Boracay by then. Whoa! that's a long time to go.

Who said Philippines is pulling back plans to bid for the 2018 Asian Games?

http://www.rmn.ph/sports/2018-asian-games-posible-ayon-sa-poc

That's the latest so far, and no news of us pulling back with the news of Delhi losing the bid for 2014. I think by 2018 we will be definitely be capable of hosting the Asian Games. If we win the bid, it will welcome the Philippines back into the global competitiveness it had in its glory days. After that, who knows? An Olympic bid 10 years after that?

But let's play this game of what if maybe in another 4 years, when the bidding will be finalized. Until then, we can just dream of what it would be like.

capable? i hopeee.......

look at this thread i made
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=471903&page=2

i dont mean to degrade our sporting spirit but if our neighbours join in the race (malaysia lost to qatar, and withdraw from guangzhou because PM wants to use the money on more pressing needs of education, by 2018 they can simply whisked away with the host job).

Also consider Singapore and Indonesia. They already had facilities built and instilled sporting culture (judging from the number of international events held there).

Wow, Malaysia and Thailand have very nice stadiums. I especially like the Sham Alam Stadium in Malaysia, it's very modern. We have ways to go until we can even compete against our neighbors. The thing with bidding is that there's no sure chance we'll win, especially if the other bidders are better prepared to host. Hanoi is planning a comprehensive bid and looking to win the bidding. If Malaysia plans to bid for 2018, then I think they will have a better chance to win than even Vietnam because of their infrastructure, sporting culture, and sporting venues. We will see if Manila can set out a competitive bid, and like you guys, I sure hope they do!

And those that the Philippines should instead bid for the Olympics instead, let me tell you this: Paris has bid three times in the past 20 years and has lost each time. It's very competitive. The Philippines will gain much hosting experience from hosting an Asian game first.

again, anyone going to Phils Open next month and perhaps to take some pictures? i'm planning to go "home" but my sched is tight. Not sure wether my yaya still remember me. hahaha

Wow, Malaysia and Thailand have very nice stadiums. I especially like the Sham Alam Stadium in Malaysia, it's very modern. We have ways to go until we can even compete against our neighbors. The thing with bidding is that there's no sure chance we'll win, especially if the other bidders are better prepared to host. Hanoi is planning a comprehensive bid and looking to win the bidding. If Malaysia plans to bid for 2018, then I think they will have a better chance to win than even Vietnam because of their infrastructure, sporting culture, and sporting venues. We will see if Manila can set out a competitive bid, and like you guys, I sure hope they do!

And those that the Philippines should instead bid for the Olympics instead, let me tell you this: Paris has bid three times in the past 20 years and has lost each time. It's very competitive. The Philippines will gain much hosting experience from hosting an Asian game first.

dont be so negative you meanie head.

dont be so negative you meanie head.

I'm not being negative, I'm just being realistic. If you guys are expecting Manila to be able to competitively bid against other cities for the Olympics in the near future, you guys will be sorely disappointed.

However, if you actually read my other posts I'm positive about Manila bidding for the 2018 Asian Games even it faces a possible comprehensive bid by Hanoi and possibly others like Malaysia.

I still would want to see more gold medals being won at international sporting competitions than seeing gleaming ultra modern stadiums amidst shanty towns that surrounds it. :colgate:

We need to upgrade our athlete's training facilities too if we seriously want those medals.

flymordecai is right. he's being realistic not overoptimistic. Seeing current main stadium in manila, i feel sorry for my own country but that's the way we must accept. they may build a new one in the future i suppose.....a 50,000-60,000 will do just fine.

I still would want to see more gold medals being won at international sporting competitions than seeing gleaming ultra modern stadiums amidst shanty towns that surrounds it. :colgate:

First we have to win gold medals at the Olympics before we can even consider hosting the Olympics. The task of hosting the Olympics is not just about putting up the money for the venues, it's also having a sporting culture that is capable of winning gold medals at the Olympics.

Common sense says Metro Manila cannot accomodate another Stadium,where will you put it? Demolish more heritage bldgs.?Outside the Metro will be the logical choice.Aside from the obvious reasons,the stadium should spur economic growth wherever you might want to erect it.







^^ Hosting big sporting events can get Philippines on the map.

^^ Put it in Quezon City.

I'm not sure, but AFAIK, Quezon City has wide area of land still to occupy. While most of the areas are heavily urbanized, some parts of Quezon City, especially the one near the Office of the Ombudsman in North Ave and Central Terminal deserves a look.

Sana nga....magkaroon na tayo ng magagandang stadium...Just like those in Thailand and Malaysia...Nakakaingit kasi!!!....Noon behind sila satin at ngayon....hhmmmm...ewan..ha ha ha!!!!:banana:

Basta gusto ko na rin na mgkaroon tayo ng kahit isang Big Stadium lang....tapos!!! ha ha ha....

^^MORE POWER TO SKYSCRAPERCITY.COM^^

I suggest that the government and some of the private sector invest on this. imo, i think it is not appropriate nung tayo naghost sa sea games, sa grandstand ang grand opening imbes sa isang stadium.
Hopefully, we'll have one national stadium. quezon city is a great bet, but i doubt it for the pba plans to build their "home" on that big lot along edsa as well as apartments and office towers in the near future. how about subic or laguna or batangas perhaps? these areas have massive and clear land areas which can accomodate a stadium with hotels for athletes local and abroad to stay in that would rival our neighbours.

a 50,000 capacity stadium will do. Not just Thailand and Malaysia which has nice stadium Indonesia and Vietnam are clearly ahead of us too..judging from pictures posted in SEA's stadium thread. I think we need to build a new one, iconic stadium around Manila. How about north of Manila, Bulacan perhaps. There's enough space there.

We dont need 100,000 capacity like those in Kuala Lumpur or Jakarta because we dont have enough, passionate football team to fill the stadium. And we also lacking sports culture if we compare amongst ASEAN neighbours...

A big stadium could easily add capacity to future EDSA 3 too...hahaha

A 50,000+ Stadium would do, somewhere in Metro Manila.

Olympic calibre stadiums have a seating capacity of over 150,000. If the Philippines were to ever host (or think about hosting) a major international multi-sport event, they should tailor their plans to accomodate these specific criterias cited by the IOC and/or OCA.

150,000? wtf? you live in the states and should have known better the capacity of future and past host of olympic games. i doubt it because it's only north korea have 150,000 capacity stadium (and it's disputed too because seatcount actually less than that, propaganda of communist government to show the world they are able to build big things)

Athens Olympic Stadium : The stadium's record attendance is 74,473 but it was configured to seat 72,000 during the Olympics, though only 56,700 seats were made publicly available for the track and field events and slightly more for the football final.

Beijing National Stadium : The stadium will seat as many as 100,000 spectators during the Olympics, but this will be reduced to 80,000 after the games.

Telstra Stadium : The stadium was originally built to hold 115,000 spectators, making it the largest Olympic Stadium ever built as well as the largest stadium in Australia. In 2003 reconfiguration work was completed to shorten the north and south wings, and install movable seating. These changes reduced the capacity to 83,500 for a rectangular field and 81,500 for an oval field

So, if ever 150,000 capacity stadium be built in pinas, how can we fill the stadium? with boom tarat tarat crowd? or expect another EDSA 3, maybe even better another Rico Yan funeral..

Common sense says Metro Manila cannot accomodate another Stadium,where will you put it? Demolish more heritage bldgs.?Outside the Metro will be the logical choice.Aside from the obvious reasons,the stadium should spur economic growth wherever you might want to erect it.

I think a portion of the reclaimed area along Manila Bay will be a nice location for a stadium and other sports facilities. Think of the sunset as backdrop in a late afternoon event at the stadium.

where the asian flame is lit every game?

First, the Philippines must be consistently in the top 3 or 5 in any Asian games. Maybe the same amount of effort, funding, and resource should be shared to the development of athletes/training in all sports (not just basketball). Btw, long gone are days of dominating basketball in Asia.

Well, definitely the Philippines needs a world class stadium to cater international sporting events....

like this one....

This proposed 20,000 capacity arena deserves its own thread. Would be a long-deserved project for Cebu

Here are the two proposals as posted earlier

(Thanks to Mootown for pics)

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/9413/cebumegadomeentryarchitnf5.jpg

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/6638/cebumegadomeentry01kg7.jpg

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/2821/megadome2yh9.jpg

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/1479/megadome3architectamendfq7.jpg

link: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=478112

I think di natin kelangan ng stadiums, wala naman satin masyadong mahilig sa baseball or football. Im sure kapag may game, lalangawin lang ang mga stadiums.

Telstra Stadium : The stadium was originally built to hold 115,000 spectators, making it the largest Olympic Stadium ever built as well as the largest stadium in Australia. In 2003 reconfiguration work was completed to shorten the north and south wings, and install movable seating. These changes reduced the capacity to 83,500 for a rectangular field and 81,500 for an oval field



lol do you mean Telstra Dome? cuz as far as i know, the Telstra Dome, or the Colonial Stadium as it was known just a few years ago, is smaller compared to the MCG which was used for the Commonwealth Games last year and was the 1956 Melbourne Olympic venue.

anyway, i think Manila needs a stadium that can hold olympic calibre crowds. maybe around 70-85 000 capacity should do it? The PNS (Philippine National Stadium) :lol:

the stadium can be used for concerts, world youth days and so on... and if the chance ever arises, would be able to host the Olympics! and can be used for the venue for future Asian Games and SEA Games that might be hosted by pinas :banana:

I think di natin kelangan ng stadiums, wala naman satin masyadong mahilig sa baseball or football. Im sure kapag may game, lalangawin lang ang mga stadiums.

If we have a modern and big stadium, for sure investments are coming in....
and in preparation for big events like Olympic games....

we can cater large volume of people, if in case our country will host international competitions and games....

If we have a modern and big stadium, for sure investments are coming in....
and in preparation for big events like Olympic games....

we can cater large volume of people, if in case our country will host international competitions and games....

I guess we only need one for now. kung mag hohost tayo sa olympics or sea games etc, kahit isa lang. pero syempre build it in a nice location where most of the skyscrapers are located. :)

sa bagay, bid lang naman, so mag-bid lang nang mag-bid..

^^ Putting up a bid also involves tons money, I don't think the government and/or the private sector would want to hemorrhage cash every time an Asian Games bidding session comes around, especially if there really isn't a slight to sure chance of winning the bid to host the event.

Agree, it's costly to bid. The Philippines has more important things to consider other than staging or hosting competitions, pageants, or events. I think the effort should be put into creating more jobs, retraining/education, fighting insurgents, roundup drug dealers, secure borders, solve floodings, provide more low-cost housing, etc. Imagine 70% of the Philippines are still considered poor.

^^ exactly, kaya nga walang mangyayari sa kakabid, its a waste of money..

^^ Putting up a bid also involves tons money, I don't think the government and/or the private sector would want to hemorrhage cash every time an Asian Games bidding session comes around, especially if there really isn't a slight to sure chance of winning the bid to host the event.

Maybe the whole idea of inviting for ASIAN GAMES is to promote tourism, cultural and economic exchange? You know, it's an effort to get noticed, not just for the whole purpose of winning... It would be nice of course if you hit two birds with one bullit/stone!!! If that is the case, the government may need to shed some mullah.. you know? you capitalize.. and when you capitalize, it almost inevitable to gamble.

^^ Exactly! In 10 years, assuming the growth continues to get higher, the Philippines will be at a much better position to host the Asian Games. Sure a large amount of money will be spent on the bid, but it's a good investment.

Why do you think other countries like South Korea and Thailand are always bidding for sporting events like the Olympics, Winter Olympics, and the Asian Games? Huge sporting events such as those are a good barometer for the economic competitiveness of a country. South Korea made a huge splash when they hosted the 1988 Olympics, look at them now. They're one of the giants of Asia now along with Japan and China. Thailand, booming with its tourism, is now looking to bid for the Olympic games and many people actually think they have a decent chance in the future. Look at China, they are doing everything in order for Beijing 2008 to become the biggest Olympics ever, working hard to open the world's largest terminal by the time the games starts.

Philippines will have to put in some money in order to show that we, too, can host a global events like the Olympics and on a smaller scale, the Asian Games. Once we show that we are capable of hosting the Asian Games again, then bidding for the Olympics will be more feasible. Once we host the Olympics, then we can truly say "we've arrived" at the global scene.

^^^^ Such event is also a perfect time to show the whole world if not the neighboring asian countries that the Philippines is safe and is a good place to invest.

Domed Stadiums in Japan
Baseball Domes
Tokyo Dome (air-supported roof), 55,000
http://www.takenaka.co.jp/majorworks/expert/entertain/gif_b/7a31.jpghttp://www.takenaka.co.jp/dome_j/map/tech/gif/02_01.jpg
Fukuoka Dome (retractable roof), 48,000
http://www.takenaka.co.jp/majorworks/expert/entertain/gif_b/7a34.jpghttp://homepage1.nifty.com/tadaf/pict0085.jpg
Osaka Dome, 37,000(baseball)
http://www.takenaka.co.jp/majorworks/expert/entertain/gif_b/8a38.jpghttp://www.takenaka.co.jp/dome_j/map/tech/gif/09_02.jpg
Nagoya Dome, 40,500
http://www.takenaka.co.jp/majorworks/expert/entertain/gif_b/8a37.jpghttp://www.takenaka.co.jp/dome_j/map/tech/gif/02_02.jpg
Sapporo Dome (also football. natural turf pitch slides into the dome from the outside) max 54,000 (baseball max 42,000)
http://www.takenaka.co.jp/majorworks/expert/entertain/gif_b/32-1_b.jpghttp://csw-only-one.way-nifty.com/1/images/pic_0295.jpg
Seibu Dome, 36,000
http://www.kajima.co.jp/project/works/content/project/image/seibu-dome.jpghttp://www.tama-monorail.co.jp/news/seibu/image2.jpg


Football Domes
Oita Dome (retractable roof) 43,000
http://www.takenaka.co.jp/majorworks/expert/entertain/gif_b/32-2_b.jpg
http://j-blood.hp.infoseek.co.jp/stadium/oita_bigeye.JPG
Kobe Wing Stadium (retractable roof) 42,000
http://www.city.kobe.jp/cityoffice/30/043/misaki/kws3.jpg
http://kouhou.city.kobe.jp/kids/data/kb/kb02/kb020211.jpg
Toyota Stadium (retractable roof) 45,000
http://www.machikuru.jp/image/him_top/photo/200506/us001.jpg
http://image.space.rakuten.co.jp/lg01/37/0000056437/32/img895e953b07ud97.jpeg


Multi-purpose Domes (cycle race, auto race, ice-hocky, etc.)
Sapporo Community Dome
http://www.taisei.co.jp/jisseki/image/LRG/T076729.jpg
http://www.makukouzou.or.jp/photos/sapporo_dome_in.jpg
Akita Skydome
http://www.makukouzou.or.jp/photos/akita_sky_dome.jpg
Shellcom Sendai
http://www.makukouzou.or.jp/photos/111.shellcom_sendai.1.jpg
Komatsu Dome
http://www.taisei.co.jp/jisseki/image/LRG/T075432.jpg
http://www.makukouzou.or.jp/photos/komatsu_dome.jpg
Amagi Dome
http://www.kajima.co.jp/project/works/content/project/image/shin-amagi-dome.jpg
Yokkaichi Dome
http://www.kajima.co.jp/project/works/content/project/image/yokkaichi-dome.jpg
Nagahama Dome
http://www.kumagaigumi.co.jp/p_sa000/image/nagahama2.jpg
Dome Fukui
http://www.kumagaigumi.co.jp/p_sa000/image/fukui2.jpg
Ariso Dome
http://www.takenaka.co.jp/majorworks/expert/entertain/gif_b/ariso.jpg
Dome pool Kawachi
http://www.makukouzou.or.jp/photos/211.kawachi.1.jpg
Kitakyushu Dome
http://www.obayashi.co.jp/major/sports/photo/09.jpg
Kitakyushu Media Dome
http://www.maeda.co.jp/pr_img/media.jpg
http://www.sanki.co.jp/product/histry/enkaku/img/ph091.jpg
Kumagaya Dome
http://www.zenitaka.co.jp/works/image/j0201.jpg
Kumamoto Park Dome
http://abe-mo.hp.infoseek.co.jp/parkdo.JPG
Sasara Dome
http://www.nihonsekkei.co.jp/works/data/img/yamaguchidomu1.jpg
Hakuryu Dome
http://www.takenaka.co.jp/majorworks/expert/entertain/gif_b/hakuryu.jpg
Katano Dome
http://ja.wikipedia.org/upload/1/14/Katano-Sports_Hall.jpg
Namihaya Dome
http://www.takenaka.co.jp/majorworks/expert/entertain/gif_b/7_61.jpg
Wave Noto
http://www.makukouzou.or.jp/photos/wave_noto_in.jpg
Osaka Pool
http://www.makukouzou.or.jp/photos/oosaka_pool.jpg
Odate Dome
http://www.takenaka.co.jp/majorworks/expert/entertain/gif_b/8b14.jpg
http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~ranbee/ohdate.jpg
Maebashi Dome
http://www.kantoshinetsu.nta.go.jp/category/kanto/annai/gunma/gun_img/gun012.jpg
http://www002.upp.so-net.ne.jp/horsestudio/maebashi02.jpg
Izumo Dome
http://www.san-in-tabi.net/kankou/map/izumo/dome/z.jpg
http://www.suakx.com/study/archimap/architecture/image/D8651181.jpg
Ocean Dome
http://www.makukouzou.or.jp/photos/sea_gaia.jpg
Ariake Tennis Stadium
http://www.tptc.or.jp/park/ariake/img/a02.jpg
Aqua Wing (domed ice-hocky stadium for Nagano Olympics)
http://www.city.nagano.nagano.jp/sisetsu/aquawing1.jpg



J LEAGUE (J1 and J2) Stadiums

http://www.j-league.or.jp/club/sapporo/images/teamlogo.gif
Sapporo Dome (43,000)
http://www.j-league.or.jp/stadium/sapporo_dome/images/2006stadium_a.jpg
http://waka77.fc2web.com/studium/01hokkaido/01sapporo1.jpg
http://www.k2.dion.ne.jp/~flattruf/sub1_SUB_IMAGE.JPG
(England vs Argetine at FIFA 2002 World Cup)
http://www.backstand.net/stadium/sapporo/img/sub_2.jpg



http://www.j-league.or.jp/club/sendai/images/teamlogo.gif
Sendai Stadium (20,000)
http://www.j-league.or.jp/stadium/sendai/images/2006stadium_a.jpg
http://waka77.fc2web.com/studium/05miyagi/01sendai2.jpg
http://www.backstand.net/stadium/sendai/img/sub2.jpg
Miyagi Stadium (49,000): this stadium is infamous as the place Japan team was defeated by Turkey at the World Cup in 2002
http://www.vegalta.co.jp/stadium/img/miyagi_stadium01.jpg
http://waka77.fc2web.com/studium/05miyagi/02miyagis2.jpg
http://park1.wakwak.com/~seikon/sozai/no1jpg/miyagi.jpg



http://www.j-league.or.jp/club/yamagata/images/teamlogo.gif
Benihana Sports Park (20,000)
http://www.j-league.or.jp/stadium/yamagata_sogo/images/2006stadium_a.jpg
http://waka77.fc2web.com/studium/06yamagata/01yamagataken2.jpg



http://www.j-league.or.jp/club/kashima/images/teamlogo.gif
Kashima Football Stadium/Zico Stadium (42,000)
http://www.j-league.or.jp/stadium/kashima/images/2006stadium_a.jpg
http://waka77.fc2web.com/studium/08ibaraki/01Kashima2.jpg
http://waka77.fc2web.com/studium/08ibaraki/01Kashima1.jpg
http://www.backstand.net/stadium/kashima/img/kashima_sub1.jpg
http://park1.wakwak.com/~seikon/sozai/1mai/010519001.jpg




http://www.j-league.or.jp/club/mito/images/teamlogo.gif
Kasamatsu Stadium (23,000).
http://www.j-league.or.jp/stadium/kasamatsu/images/2006stadium_a.jpg
* new stadium is under contemplation



http://www.j-league.or.jp/club/kusatsu/images/teamlogo.gif
http://www.j-league.or.jp/stadium/shikishima/images/2006stadium_a.jpg



http://www.j-league.or.jp/club/omiya/images/teamlogo.gif
http://www.j-league.or.jp/club/urawa/images/teamlogo.gif
Saitama Stadium (64,000)
http://www.j-league.or.jp/stadium/saitama/images/2006stadium_a.jpg
http://waka77.fc2web.com/studium/11saitama/03saitama1.jpg
http://www.backstand.net/stadium/saitama/img/sub2.jpg
http://park1.wakwak.com/~seikon/sozai/1mai/011107001.jpg
Komaba Stadium (22,000)
http://www.j-league.or.jp/stadium/komaba/images/2006stadium_a.jpg
http://waka77.fc2web.com/studium/11saitama/05komaba2.jpg




http://www.j-league.or.jp/club/chiba/images/teamlogo.gif
Ichihara Seaside Stadium (19,000)
http://www.j-league.or.jp/stadium/ichihara/images/2006stadium_a.jpg
Fukda Sports Arena (19,000)
http://www.j-league.or.jp/stadium/fukuari/images/2006stadium_a.jpg
http://waka77.fc2web.com/studium/13chiba/21fukuari1.jpg
http://park1.wakwak.com/~seikon/sozai/1mai/fukuari.jpg



http://www.j-league.or.jp/club/kashiwa/images/teamlogo.gif
Hitachi Stadium (16,000)
http://www.j-league.or.jp/stadium/kashiwa/images/2006stadium_a.jpg
Kashiwanoha Stadium (16,000)
http://www.j-league.or.jp/stadium/kashiwanoha/images/2006stadium_a.jpg
http://waka77.fc2web.com/studium/13chiba/03kashiwanoha1.jpg



http://www.j-league.or.jp/club/fctokyo/images/teamlogo.gif
http://www.j-league.or.jp/club/tokyov/images/teamlogo.gif
Tokyo Football Stadium/ Ajinomoto Stadium (50,000)
http://www.j-league.or.jp/stadium/tokyo_stadium/images/2006stadium_a.jpg
http://waka77.fc2web.com/studium/12tokyo/10ajinomoto3.jpg
http://www.backstand.net/stadium/tokyo/img/to_sub2.jpg
http://www.backstand.net/stadium/tokyo/img/to_sub4.jpg
http://park1.wakwak.com/~seikon/sozai/no1jpg/tokyo.jpg
National Stadium/ Kasumigaoka Stadium (61,000)
http://www.j-league.or.jp/stadium/kokuritsu/images/2006stadium_a.jpg
http://waka77.fc2web.com/studium/12tokyo/01kokuritsu1.jpg
http://www.backstand.net/stadium/kokuritsu/img/koku_sub3.jpg
http://www.backstand.net/stadium/kokuritsu/img/koku_sub1.jpg
http://park1.wakwak.com/~seikon/sozai/no1jpg/kokuritu.jpg




http://www.j-league.or.jp/club/kawasaki/images/teamlogo.gif
Todoroki Stadium (25,000)
http://www.j-league.or.jp/stadium/todoroki/images/2006stadium_a.jpg
http://waka77.fc2web.com/studium/14kanagawa/01todoroki1.jpg



http://www.j-league.or.jp/club/yokohamafm/images/teamlogo.gif
http://www.j-league.or.jp/club/yokohamafc/images/teamlogo.gif
Yokohama International Stadium/ Nissan Stadium (73,000)
http://www.j-league.or.jp/stadium/nissan/images/2006stadium_a.jpg
http://waka77.fc2web.com/studium/14kanagawa/02yokohamakokusai2.jpg
(AC Milan vs Boca Juniors, FIFA Inter-Continental Cup / Toyota Cup Final)
http://www.milanjuniorcamp.co.jp/htm/tc2003/image18.jpg
(Sao Paulo vs Liverpool, FIFA Club World Championship Final)
http://image.blog.livedoor.jp/shunsuke12/imgs/1/f/1fadfa72.JPG
(Brazil vs Germany, FIFA World Cup 2002 Final)
http://www.geocities.jp/kengo333jp/wcup02.jpg
http://www.hamaspo.com/stadium/worldcup/img2/0206309.jpg
http://www.kyodo.co.jp/kyodonews/2001/worldcup/gallery/pix2002-0630-1big.jpg
http://www.tanoshimimura.com/photo/kanagawa/0206846.jpg
http://www.tanoshimimura.com/photo/kanagawa/0206823.jpg
Mitsuzawa Stadium (16,000)
http://www.j-league.or.jp/stadium/mitsuzawa/images/2006stadium_a.jpg
http://waka77.fc2web.com/studium/14kanagawa/03mitsuzawakyu2.jpg



http://www.j-league.or.jp/club/shonan/images/teamlogo.gif
Hiratsuka Stadium (19,000)
http://www.j-league.or.jp/stadium/hiratsuka/images/2006stadium_a.jpg



http://www.j-league.or.jp/club/kofu/images/teamlogo.gif
Kose Sports Park Stadium (18,000)
http://www.j-league.or.jp/stadium/kose/images/2006stadium_a.jpg
Alwin Stadium (20,000)
http://waka77.fc2web.com/studium/24Nagano/02alwin1.jpg



http://www.j-league.or.jp/club/niigata/images/teamlogo.gif
Niigata Stadium/ Big Swan Stadium (43,000)
http://www.j-league.or.jp/stadium/big_swan/images/2006stadium_a.jpg
http://waka77.fc2web.com/studium/20niigata/01bigswan2.jpg
http://waka77.fc2web.com/studium/20niigata/01bigswan1.jpg
http://www.backstand.net/stadium/niigata/img/ni_sub2.jpg
http://park1.wakwak.com/~seikon/sozai/1mai/suta-niigata.jpg



http://www.j-league.or.jp/club/shimizu/images/teamlogo.gif
Shizuoka Stadium (51,000)
http://www.j-league.or.jp/stadium/shizuoka/images/2006stadium_a.jpg
http://waka77.fc2web.com/studium/15shizuoka/ecopa1.jpg
http://waka77.fc2web.com/studium/15shizuoka/ecopa2.jpg
http://www.backstand.net/stadium/ecopa/img/eco_sub3.jpg
Nihondaira Stadium (21,000)
http://www.j-league.or.jp/stadium/nihon_daira/images/2006stadium_a.jpg
http://waka77.fc2web.com/studium/15shizuoka/06nihondaira1.jpg



http://www.j-league.or.jp/club/iwata/images/teamlogo.gif
Yamaha Stadium (17,000)
http://www.j-league.or.jp/stadium/iwata/images/2006stadium_a.jpg
http://waka77.fc2web.com/studium/15shizuoka/yamaha01.jpg



http://www.j-league.or.jp/club/nagoya/images/teamlogo.gif
Toyota Stadium (45,000)
http://www.j-league.or.jp/stadium/toyota/images/2006stadium_a.jpg
http://waka77.fc2web.com/studium/17aichi/toyota1.jpg
http://waka77.fc2web.com/studium/17aichi/toyota2.jpg
http://www.backstand.net/stadium/toyota/img/sub11.jpg
http://park1.wakwak.com/~seikon/sozai/1mai/020803001.jpg
http://www.soccerphile.com/soccerphile/archives/wc2002/fo/im/stads/toyota-stadium1.jpg
http://www.wldcup.com/Asia/stadia/toyota/pict1p.jpg
Mizuho Stadium (28,000)
http://www.j-league.or.jp/stadium/mizuho_riku/images/2006stadium_a.jpg



http://www.j-league.or.jp/club/kyoto/images/teamlogo.gif
NishiKyogoku Stadium (21,000)
http://www.j-league.or.jp/stadium/nishikyougoku/images/2006stadium_a.jpg
* constrction of new football stadium is under suspension


http://www.j-league.or.jp/club/gosaka/images/teamlogo.gif
Expo Stadium (21,000)
http://www.j-league.or.jp/stadium/banpaku/images/2006stadium_a.jpg
http://waka77.fc2web.com/studium/28Oosaka/05banpaku1.jpg
* new football stadium project is in progress (completion is 2008-9)


http://www.j-league.or.jp/club/cosaka/images/teamlogo.gif
Nagai Stadium (50,000)
http://www.j-league.or.jp/stadium/nagai/images/2006stadium_a.jpg
http://waka77.fc2web.com/studium/28Oosaka/03nagai1.jpg
http://waka77.fc2web.com/studium/28Oosaka/03nagai2.jpg
http://park1.wakwak.com/~seikon/sozai/no1jpg/nagai.jpg



http://www.j-league.or.jp/club/kobe/images/teamlogo.gif
Kobe Wing Stadium (42,000)
http://www.j-league.or.jp/stadium/kobe_wing/images/2006stadium_a.jpg
http://waka77.fc2web.com/studium/30Hyogo/01kobewing1.jpg
http://waka77.fc2web.com/studium/30Hyogo/01kobewing3.jpg
http://pds.exblog.jp/pds/1/200506/14/13/c0039413_2217255.jpg
http://park1.wakwak.com/~seikon/sozai/1mai/020617001.jpg
Kobe Univer Stadium (60,000)
http://waka77.fc2web.com/studium/30Hyogo/02kobeu3.jpg
http://waka77.fc2web.com/studium/30Hyogo/02kobeu1.jpg
http://park1.wakwak.com/~seikon/sozai/1mai/010908001.jpg



http://www.j-league.or.jp/club/hiroshima/images/teamlogo.gif
Hiroshima Big Arch Stadium (50,000)
http://www.j-league.or.jp/stadium/hiroshima_big/images/2006stadium_a.jpg
http://waka77.fc2web.com/studium/36hiroshima/01bigarch1.jpg
http://waka77.fc2web.com/studium/36hiroshima/01bigarch4.jpg
Momotaro Stadium (20,000)
http://takebou.huu.jp/img_0893.jpg
* new football stadium is under consideration


http://www.j-league.or.jp/club/tokushima/images/teamlogo.gif
Naruto Stadium (21,000)
http://www.j-league.or.jp/stadium/naruto/images/2006stadium_a.jpg
* new stadium is in the works


http://www.j-league.or.jp/club/ehime/images/teamlogo.gif
Ehime Stadium (20,000)
http://www.j-league.or.jp/stadium/ehime/images/2006stadium_a.jpg



http://www.j-league.or.jp/club/fukuoka/images/teamlogo.gif
Hakatanomori Stadium (23,000)
http://www.j-league.or.jp/stadium/hakata/images/2006stadium_a.jpg
http://waka77.fc2web.com/studium/40Fukuoka/08Hakatanomorikyu1.jpg
http://www.backstand.net/stadium/hakata/img/sub11.jpg



http://www.j-league.or.jp/club/tosu/images/teamlogo.gif
Tosu Stadium (25,000)
http://www.j-league.or.jp/stadium/tosu/images/2006stadium_a.jpg
http://waka77.fc2web.com/studium/41saga/03bTosu.jpg
http://www.backstand.net/stadium/tosu/img/tosu_sub3.jpg



http://www.j-league.or.jp/club/oita/images/teamlogo.gif
Oita Dome (43,000)
http://www.j-league.or.jp/stadium/big_i/images/2006stadium_a.jpg
http://www.ozawa.ics.keio.ac.jp/~iso/photo/oita_oct/images/DSC00028_JPG.jpg
KK Wing Stadium (35,000)
http://www.makukouzou.or.jp/photos/611.kumamoto_rikujyo.1.jpg
http://dodochan.com/tomaru/priva/0069.jpg



and J Village (J-League's traning centre, 11 football turf pitches, athletic and gym facilities, swimming pools and accomodations)
http://waka77.fc2web.com/studium/07fukushima/02J-Village3.jpg

major rugby stadiums in Japan

Prince Chichibu Memorial Rugby Stadium (Tokyo)

Since 1947 it has been the spiritual home of Japanese rugby union.
(only 26,000)

http://waka77.fc2web.com/studium/12tokyo/08chichibu3.jpg

Hanazono Rugby Stadium (Osaka)

It is the stage for the annual National High School Rugby Tournament.
(30,000)
http://waka77.fc2web.com/studium/28Oosaka/06hanazono1.jpg

moderately-sized ball parks


Azuma Stadium
http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~ranbee/p_fukus.jpg
Iwaki Green Stadium
http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~ranbee/iwaki.jpg
Komachi Stadium
http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~ranbee/komachi.jpg
Jiungu Ball Park
http://image.blog.livedoor.jp/daramu/imgs/2/1/21d08931.jpg
Yokohama Stadium
http://www.d2.dion.ne.jp/~cyp/P6020012.JPGhttp://www21.ocn.ne.jp/~khbf/syasin/85kaikai.jpg
Chiba Marine Stadium
http://www.marinestadium.co.jp/marine_st.jpg
Chiba Ball Park
http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~ranbee/tendai.jpg
Nagano Olympic Ball Park
http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~ranbee/c_nagano.jpghttp://niigata-boro.net/nagano_olympic/oly_040605_playball.jpg
Nagaragawa Ball Park
http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~ranbee/gifu.jpg
Toyama Alpine Stadium
http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~ranbee/c_toyama.jpghttp://blog.so-net.ne.jp/_images/blog/yada2/1519580.jpg
Kurashiki Muscat Stadium
http://www.taisei.co.jp/jisseki/image/LRG/T069178.jpghttp://www.h7.dion.ne.jp/~v1katu/103639.jpg
Bocyan Stadium
http://www.rivo.mediatti.net/~fellow/bon1.jpghttp://tommy.tblog.jp/images/ehime03.jpg
Nagasaki Ball Park
http://www.oku.co.jp/pages/big_n_l.gif
Maishima Baseball stadium
http://www.oku.co.jp/media/pic22l.jpg
Sunmarine Stadium
http://miyazaki.air-nifty.com/img/gvsh02-800.jpg


refurbished Fuji International Speedway (FSW) designed by Hermann Tilke
speedway stadium: capacity max 150,000!!

http://ameblo.jp/user_images/f8/25/10002168187.jpg
http://ameblo.jp/user_images/07/44/10002168204.jpg
http://response.jp/issue/2006/0313/article80170_1.images/110054.jpg
http://response.jp/issue/2006/0316/article80292_1.images/110179.jpg


related article

The Japanese Grand Prix will move from the Honda-owned Suzuka track to Toyota’s Fuji International Speedway in 2007.
The Yomiuri Shimbun newspaper was informed by Bernie Ecclestone last Friday that Fuji has secured a multi-year contract to host the country’s grand prix.
The race has been held at Suzuka since 1987, but Fuji staged Japan’s first two world championship grands prix in 1976 and 1977.
Since being bought by Toyota in 2000 the facility has undergone a $168 million investment programme.
The news will be met with caution by many Formula 1 drivers and fans, since Suzuka is widely regarded as one of the world’s most challenging circuits.


pic of newly built stand of Suzuka International Racing Course

new V-stand
http://www.f-road.com/blog/archives/DSC09277.JPG

other shots
http://response.jp/issue/2004/1010/article64458_1.images/73909.jpg
http://response.jp/issue/2005/1007/article75075_1.images/95851.jpg
http://response.jp/issue/2004/1008/article64438_1.images/73853.jpg

other major speedways in Japan

Tokachi international Speedway (Hokkaido)
course design by Sakurai (F1 Honda team former general manager).
WRC (Rally Japan) is held in Hokkaido under combined effort of this speedway
http://www.hokkaido-jin.jp/zukan/picturebook/images/item/22001/22001-00195-1-m.jpg
http://www.sarabetsu.jp/images/kan_tokachi.jpg
http://ca.c.yimg.jp/news/1128147965/img.news.yahoo.co.jp/images/20051001/reu/20051001-00000334-reu-spo-view-000.jpg


SUGO (Miyagi prefecture) founded by YAMAHA
http://www5d.biglobe.ne.jp/~s_shin/formula/2004_gt_test_sugo/sugo_04.jpg
Moto Cross FIM World Championship at SUGO Speedway
http://www.presto-corp.jp/topics/t050525/t20050414.jpg

Motegi, Tochigi prefecture founded by HONDA
Indy Japan (Indy Car Series) at Motegi Circuit
http://members.at.infoseek.co.jp/hiyo23/image/p259_02.jpg
MotoGP Pacific Grandprix at Motegi Circuit
http://image.blog.livedoor.jp/kenji99_3xv/imgs/2/e/2e80a1d3.JPG

Tsukuba Circuit (Ibaraki Prefecture)
MFJ Superbike All Japan Road Race Championship at Tsukuba Circuit
http://livesize.hp.infoseek.co.jp/03tsukuba/2852.JPG

Ebisu Circuit (Fukushima Prefecture)
professional Drift Grandprix at Ebisu Circuit
http://www.weld-jp.com/2005d1ebisu%20(3).JPG

Okayama Internationa Circuit (former TI Aida Circuit)
F1 Pacific Grand Prix at Okayama Inti' Circuit
http://www.jarrotts.com/jarrottspics/other/f1poster.jpg
http://www.mschumacher.net/schumi/images/1994/gp40.jpg
http://toayrton.tripod.com/images/link_life/made_heav_94/senna_94_pacific.jpg

Autopolis Speedway (Oita Prefecture) founded by KAWASAKI
Super GT at Autopolis
http://inish.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/xanavi1.jpg

Japan has such a well-developed sporting culture. Together with that, is Japan's huge pork-barrell budgets. And, what you'll get is a country flushed with sporting facilites of all types, shapes and sizes.

If the Philippines can have just a quarter of this stadiums, we'd be the sporting hub of South-East Asia.

http://www.vegalta.co.jp/stadium/img/miyagi_stadium01.jpg
This is my favorite, the Miyagi Stadium, it was named after a very prominent and powerful japanese clan in that area. looks like a blade or half moon.

^^ The Miyagi Stadium is my second favourite. The Oita Dome is the best for me.

we dont have to go far, to fill stadiums we must have a strong sporting culture...

of course every developing country wants to emulate Japan...

but i dont see it happens in near future, if government struggle to build one very decent stadium for MM how could they possibly build dozens more...

wishful thinking...even vietnam now has better looking, much better than philippines stadium....

but i dont see it happens in near future, if government struggle to build one very decent stadium for MM how could they possibly build dozens more...

^^ True. Well, my point isn't to emulate Japan, rather, my point is to make Japan as the catalyst of developing our very own "sporting-culture." I know that not in a million years will the Philippines ever have infrastructure as ultra-modern as Japan's but my point for that very long quoted post was merely to encourage or reinvigurate our own sporting culture. By showing to other Philippine forumers what Japan has, I, in my own little way, have contributed to their awareness of this particular country's exemplar sporting culture and, by which, we, the Filipinos, can hopefully partly draw inspiration to have more of the passion to excell not only in sports but also in the virtues of discipline, perseverance, and determination.

wishful thinking...even vietnam now has better looking, much better than philippines stadium....

^^ That is precisely why we should develop a more dynamic sporting culture in the hearts and minds of our fellow Filipinos. And, of course, Vietnam's growth story (other than China's, Japan's, South Korea's and India's) is nothing short of spectacular. Heck, the ASEAN Summit held in Cebu last January was nothing compared to the APEC Summit held in Hanoi. Their's was grander not to mention that the their venue was far more architecturally superior to the Cebu International Convention Center. :yes: This just shows that we are truly behind not only among neighboring countries with larger economies (i.e. Malaysia, Thailand, Singapore, and Indonesia) but also a country poorer than us.

Yes, Vietnam is still poorer than the Philippines but at the rate by which it is growing annually it'll surely surpass us in 5-10 years.

i get your point...

i also made a thread in sports arena about SEA stadium so that we can easily compare what's available here and what's has been built by our neighbors

ohh well pilipinas......

i think its about time that we build one.....may be the first gentleman can spearhead...it as part of his legacy....it would be best if it can be at the reclamation area near...the aseana business park...calling FG....

Okay, here are stadiums from a country far poorer than ours. I think I can still accept the fact that Vietnam is beating our asses when it comes to infrastructure superiority but Bangladesh as well! Now that's really a shame. :ohno: :no: :bash: :mad: :cry: :mad2: :wallbash: :bleep: :weird: :doh: >( :sleepy: :rant:

:badnews:

Here's Bangladesh's National Stadium:

Bangabandhu National Stadium is the national stadium and main sports arena in Dhaka, Bangladesh. It is located at Motijheel at the heart of the capital city, Dhaka. The stadium is variously known as Number 1 National Stadium, Dhaka Stadium etc.

photo credit: Ershad Ahmed

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bird'seye view of Bangabandhu Football stadium and Bhasani Hockey stadium

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renovated south view

Mirpur Sher-E-Bangla Stadium

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Mirpur Sher-e-Bangla Stadium

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Bogra Shaheed Chandu Stadium is located in Bogra, in northwestern Bangladesh. It became a Test cricket venue on 8 March 2006, when it hosted a test match between Sri Lanka and Bangladesh. It has a capacity of 34,000.

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i feel awful, seems to me that it's true to some quarters that we dont have sporting cultures...basketball? bah!! i never heard that NBA teams come and play exhibition match for their pre season here although we're basketball mad nation.

malaysia, although shameful with their footballing bastards and pariahs, still managed to attract top football teams to held friendlies there....

singapore, small but asian champion, despite imported athletes.

bangladesh, cricket

thailand, SEA's all rounder

Indonesia, sleeping giants

philippines, snooker/billiards..hahaha..although they made our country proud but i would like to see pinoys excels in other sports thats being enjoyed by the rest of the world too...football, hockey, badminton etc, sports that warrant us to build nice stadia...

^^ That's right. We're a basketball mad nation alright but we've got no outstanding talents to warrant becoming a basketball superpower anytime soon. Heck, besides the obvious superiority of the United States in this sport, there's China, Iran, Greece, Argentina, and Jordan. They'd hand our team their asses.

If there's one sport that the Philippines can still hope of ever being a strong competitor and that's billiards and boxing.

Oh goodness, the dhaka stadium looks better compared to ours. It can even accomodate a larger crowd. We need a nice National Stadium immediately! :D

the one at luneta, is that a stadium?

^^ That's just a grandstand Tigs. Mostly used for dignitaries to view parades and such.

kasi malls ang inaatupag eh... pano kaya yung lot sa mall of asia ginawang sports comlex nalang....

the one at luneta, is that a stadium?

our stadium...here is the one fronting harrison plaza....(is that mall still existing?) the rizal memorial stadium...its where we usually do the sea games.....

you would be shocked that the sports complexes in visayas and mindanao is far better and more beautifu than the one we have in manila..... people from the visayas and mindanao area would you be good enough to share your stadium pics with us.....thx...

kasi malls ang inaatupag eh

^^ O nga! Andami nang malls sa Metro Manila! Stadiums or any sporting facility naman sana for a change.

pano kaya yung lot sa mall of asia ginawang sports comlex nalang....

^^ But I thought there was a planned stadium for that area when it'll be fully built up.

you would be shocked that the sports complexes in visayas and mindanao is far better and more beautifu than the one we have in manila..... people from the visayas and mindanao area would you be good enough to share your stadium pics with us.....thx...

^^ Oh???!

Since I've never been to the Rizal National Grandstand myself I can't compare its quality to the stadiums/grandtsnds here in the Visayas and Mindanao areas. But if that's true then geeeeeez I can just imagine how the visiting SEA athletes reacted after seeing our dismal and low-standard sporting facilities in Metro Manila. They could've thought to themselves; "WOOOOT???!:ohno: "

i saw the sports comlexes of mindanao ...only in their brochures and it really looks beautiful..with their malay design and modernity...the one in cebu... is already old... i used to jog and swim their...when i was assigned to cebu for 2 1/2 years...hopefully they will build a new one ahead of manila....para mapahiya ang manila....at kumilos...

^^ in 10 years??? with how things are going right now, hehe, i doubt...

I'm watching the Philippine Open on live internet stream, and in the foreground near the camera you can see a person walking around selling what looks like bags of chips. :lol: Only in the Philippines.

I hope that if whenever we host the Asian Games again, we will aim for a more professional way of dispersing snacks (vending machine, perhaps?). :D

:fiddle: most likely, if the philippines will/can indeed host the asian games exactly 10 years from now, some of the games will more likely take place in some cities outside metro manila, like cebu for example! i mean this sporting event is just too big to be confined to a single urban center. but this is just an assumption

I came across this article while researching for the PyeongChang Winter Olympics bid controversy...

http://www.answers.com/topic/2024-summer-olympics

dont be so negative you meanie head.


^^ Im in..... I want to hold an Asian Games here. Im proud of the Philippines now and I believe that it takes only at most 2 years to buid a super stadium here. The foreigners are beginning to see the Philippines as the economic mecca of S.E. Asia and perhaps we're not anymore the sick man of Asia.. Investors are pouring a lot of money to invest here and I am confident that Philippines will shows it's best before the bidding..

I came across this article while researching for the PyeongChang Winter Olympics bid controversy...

http://www.answers.com/topic/2024-summer-olympics



^^ False/fake/not real. Pick your choice.

Yeah I figured. Hay pati wikipedia meron din.

Philippine stadium, anyone got pics like http://www.stadiumzone.net does? I really love the national Rizal stadium.

Oi, baka mamaya magbibintangan nanaman tayo ng pandaraya if ever na manalo tayo sa bid(I doubt it though)

We should focus on first improving the training of our athlethes (besides boxing and basketball) and develop better infrastructure for their training. Maybe 2018 is a better time to focus on hosting the Asiad

Hosting A Miss Universe or A Miss World is more feasible than ASIAN Games!

^^ We are the continuous host of Miss Earth, 1 of the 4 major beuty pageants in the world.

^^ That's because it's a Philippine based and produced pageant.

^^ Yep. That's why we really don't need to host another major pageant.

Proposed Elias B. Lopez Sports Complex (Davao City Sports Complex)
Location: Bago Oshiro, Mintal, Davao City
Status: On-Hold (due to land dispute)



Scale Model
basketball arena at left and the main indoor football/ track & field stadium
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basketball arena , main football stadium and athletes dormitory

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main football stadium
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foreground : secondary footbal field/track &field , upper right : olympic size swimming pool & diving venue.

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secondary football field.
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Those pictures are 2 years old. Looks like another one of those projects that just disappears or is forever on-hold. Philippine is in dire need for some stadiums. Filipinos are suited for football, IMO. If this project ever starts construction in the near future, that would be great!

^^ the design came out only last year. i believe the date setting of dinabaw's cam was not adjusted. early this year, the city appropriated 120M for the first phase but due to land dispute between UP Min & informal settlers, the fund was diverted to traffic signalization (phase 2). as of the moment the city is looking for another site for sports complex.

btw, Elias B. Lopez is the first Bagobo/lumad mayor of Davao.

looks like sarawak stadium in kuching

^^ mejo kamukha nga...

heres kuching:
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http://www.millimetre.uk.net/img/gallery/textile-architecture/kuching-stadium/stadium-landscape-view.jpg
http://www.millimetre.uk.net/img/gallery/textile-architecture/kuching-stadium/ku-ching-render.jpg

^^ the design came out only last year. i believe the date setting of dinabaw's cam was not adjusted. early this year, the city appropriated 120M for the first phase but due to land dispute between UP Min & informal settlers, the fund was diverted to traffic signalization (phase 2). as of the moment the city is looking for another site for sports complex.

btw, Elias B. Lopez is the first Bagobo/lumad mayor of Davao.



yes i never bothered to change the date setting but it's true it was conceived last year.

wow yes it looks like the Kuching stadium , but the design is from the chinese developer i guess.

oh man. that two year old stadium complex would be perfect when we host a southeast asian games, or even asian games.

oh man. that two year old stadium complex would be perfect when we host a southeast asian games, or even asian games.

correction pare, two-year old plan. Need another years to get it done. And another years to wait for our turn to host SEA games. Asian games? 100 light years..

I've read this article a week ago, might as well post it for avid motoring fans like me:banana: .

Formula -1 type track in Angeles City proposed

A high-ranking official of an international engineering firm visited the country recently with the proposal of constructing a Formula One quality circuit to be built in Angeles City in Pampanga.

Rainier Buchman, managing director of Hermann Tilke Architectural and Engineering Limited, met with San Miguel Corp. president Ramon Ang and Motorsports Director Boy Ochoa to look into a 2,000-hectare lot fronting the North Luzon Expressway between Angeles City and Subic, this according to Eddie Marcelo.

Marcelo, a race-car legend and chairman of Marcelo Group of Companies, accompanied Buchmann, a personal friend, to meet with Ang and Ochoa in one of the most ambitious sports projects ever proposed in the Philippines.

Ang and his group of investors reportedly will be financing the said project.

Herman Tilke is responsible for building the new Formula One circuits in Malaysia (Sepang), Bahrain, Shanghai, Japan (Fuji International Speedway), as well as those in Germany (Nurburgring Ring and Hockenheimring Circuit), Mexico (Cancun International Circuit).

The group is currently constructing two other tracks—one in Singapore and another in India. (In a recent report, the FIA, the world-governing body of motorsports, has approved India F1 Grand Prix which will begin 2010).

Marcelo said that Ang “a long-time supporter of Philippine Motorsports… is very much interested in the project.”

“The company has the technology and the specs to pass the world-racing and safety standards for a Formula One track,” Marcelo added.

“This will be a big boost to the country’s economy and tourism industry considering the influx of tourists coming over to watch these races,” he went on.

“If plans push through, the country may soon play host to prestigious international car-racing events and possibly bid to become one of the venues of the world-renown Formula One series.”


http://www.yehey.com/sports/full_article.aspx?id=181294&categ=12

dati it was in Subic but lack of funds reduced it to a F.3 capable field... I hope this one is more realistic to become an F1 site. Kahit kalahati lang ng ganda ng Sepang but at least three times better than that of BRC or Carmona

^^ :banana:
haay salamat meron na.. maybe they're considering a replacement for the indy grand prix which was cancelled for f1 races next year..
kelan kaya yan gagawin? sana matupad.. another tourist attraction na naman yan..:lol:

"Formula One 2012 Angeles Grand Prix":lol: :lol:

Kahit magkaroon pa tayo ng F1 Circuit dito kung walang basbas ni Bernie Ecclestone, malabong magkaroon ng F1 race dito. Siya dapat unang ligawan ng government at ung mga may plans magpatayo.

Wow, this one would be great. I hope they a choose a more remote site (but still accesible), I'm not so sure about one right next to NLEX. Actually, if the investors put up the money this will be high quality like other tracks designed by Hermann Tilke. I love the Shanghai track myself.

'di kaya sumobra na ang magiging race ng F1 sa ASIAN LEG nila?
malaysia, china, japan, india(next year ba?) tapos meron din ata sa singapore.. tapos may proposed na philippine grand prix, dami nun..:lol:

bondurant.. si bernie rin ba ung umayaw na sa INDY?

^^ Also South Korea in 2010. Can the Philippines be squeezed in if they build it? :D

yup.. meron na singapore next year!
mas ok ata F1 sa edsa! haha

yup.. meron na singapore next year!
mas ok ata F1 sa edsa! haha


hindi kaya hanggang 80mph lang sila? hehe..

sana this plan will push through...makakapanood na talaga ako ng live formula 1 race....:banana:

lets go to singapore next year to watch the singapore grand prix!!!:lol:

go mclaren go!!!

hindi ba private sector ang gagawa nito at hindi government? :D

mukhang private sector.. wow I hope this pushes through...

can i see this in my lifetime? idol ko talaga mga draybers :lol:

parang gusto ko yatang maggokart sa ekingdom :lol:

hmmm, I heard about an F3 racetrack being built by the owner of the San Juan Racetrack...this must be different. Anyway looks interesting if it's true. Should be fun to use.

'di kaya sumobra na ang magiging race ng F1 sa ASIAN LEG nila?
malaysia, china, japan, india(next year ba?) tapos meron din ata sa singapore.. tapos may proposed na philippine grand prix, dami nun..:lol:

bondurant.. si bernie rin ba ung umayaw na sa INDY?

Sa case ng Indy, ang contract was from 2000-2006, nagextend lang sila for 1 year then di na yata nagkasundo. Bernie was entertaining the possibility din kasi of holding a US GP on a different venue, Las Vegas yata ang gusto.

i heard Malaysia is not extending its contract? but i also read, i think, that they just signed an extension lol....

Have faith fellas, have faith. San Miguel is serious on this one. :okay:

A Philippine Grand Prix is not feasable at the moment.

Filipinos can not yet afford it. additionally, there are not enough Filipino F1 fans to sustain an investment of this magnitude.

But still wishing that it pushes through... sigh

but hey.. look at the INDY grand prix... not all Americans have a fondness for F1, remember they have their NASCAR.. but still this city attracts more than 100,000 F1 core fans which brings money to the city.. imagine what gain it could bring.. i hope, they're also planning to build hotels around the area just in case...:)

i hope this gets built so i can watch my fellow insane drivers race! :D

but hey.. look at the INDY grand prix... not all Americans have a fondness for F1, remember they have their NASCAR.. but still this city attracts more than 100,000 F1 core fans which brings money to the city.. imagine what gain it could bring.. i hope, they're also planning to build hotels around the area just in case...:)

problema kase archipelago tayo... racing fans from vismin have to travel pa

Posted by -TC- from Samahan - The Motorsports Thread.

Quite long but a great article on the proposed Philippine F1 Racetrack:

http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/1005&062007/sports02.html

On the right track?
THERE IS NO MIDDLE GROUND: THE PHILIPPINE FORMULA ONE GRAND PRIX WILL EITHER BE A GARGANTUAN SUCCESS OR A MONUMENTAL FAILURE
By Dominic Menor
BusinessMirror Subeditor
October 5, 2007

A FORMULA One racetrack is not like any other sports facility.

The humongous cost it entails is obvious. The massive appeal it will generate, especially among the local motorsports enthusiasts regardless how mature their appreciations are, is to be expected. The theory on the consequences on tourism is not without merit as well, given the enormous exposure a Philippine F1 Grand Prix—just saying those words can cause goose bumps—is likely to receive globally.

But the difference between owning an F1 track and, say, a National Basketball Association-accredited arena or a Professional Golfers Association-approved golf course lies on four other more critical levels: The strict standards to which each and every track needs to adhere, the very high technology that is the essence of the sport, the near-exclusive nature of the entire facility, and the tectonic shift a Formula One track and the Grand Prix can create to the country’s image to the rest of the world.

The track and then some

“IT’S not a question of just building the track,” says Popong Andolong, BusinessMirror’s Motoring editor, “you need to have the accompanying structures around it.”

The structures the Fédération Internationale de l’Automobile (FIA), the world-governing body of motorsports, require include airports, hotels and ports that will receive heavy-duty, state-of-the-art machines and a ballpark estimate to accommodate 3,000 persons, needless to say, not a concern if the NBA, for example, holds a regular-season game in Manila or Tiger Woods plays an exhibition match in Cavite.

In Formula One, not only is the main event costly, so is the red carpet.

“You also need to have a friendly Customs department. Imagine each team carries up to 60 tons of equipment. So ’yung nightmare of pushing all of that into Customs and then out again. You have to factor in all of that,” Andolong adds.

Mark Goddard cites the value of the peripherals from the Chinese Grand Prix.

“Shanghai built a state-of-the-art track, and we’re hearing it costs $100 million to $200 million to build the track itself. But they’ve also built a six-lane highway from the city to the racetrack, and God knows how much that costs.”

Through a process called homologation, representatives from the FIA and from the Formula One Association (FOA) visit the site with an encyclopedic checklist.

Transporters area where the tires, spares and crew are situated, garages that can accommodate four cars, separate sections for paddocks where each team puts in their containers, and a facility for meals, briefing.

That doesn’t include the personnel.

“You have to show not only that the facilities are on a par but more importantly whether the marshalling staff and officials are efficient as well,” Andolong says.

With the popularity surge of F1, corresponding television and broadcast facilities are being nitpicked as well, Andolong adds.

“The FOA and the FIA are working hand in hand because Formula One ang pinakamabentang produkto ng FIA,” the veteran motoring journalist adds.

By Formula One, for Formula One

THE common sequence is, once the F1 track is built, it must hold a Grand Prix, whether it takes time to do so or not.

For an expensive cite, the track is not multipurpose. Even posh, roofed US-based arenas that are a tad less pricey can be used for basketball, ice hockey, volleyball or boxing. Open-air stadiums can house athletics events and soccer.

“The track is a huge investment,” Goddard says. “You’re looking a minimum $100 million, a track that is capable of running a Grand Prix. What else are you going to use it for?”

The most important difference between an F1 track and other sports facilities is the impact it immediately creates—something Andolong, Goddard and, safe to say, everyone in the motorsports industry cannot deny.

Goddard gushes at the positive consequences.

“Each individual Grand Prix,” Goddard begins, “is being watched by more people on television apart from the 100-meter final in the Olympic Games, and the World Cup final game. And those are held once every four years. You’re talking about 18 weekends in Formula One; you have this huge viewership.

“That’s why there are many sponsors, and there are many countries that want a Grand Prix. It helps the sponsor’s branding, that [the sponsor] is modern, high-tech, glamorous. And if the country holds the Grand Prix, then logic dictates that it must be modern, it must be high-tech. And things like, they must be a well-educated population. It must be a country that’s good to go and take a good look at. So this is, I imagine, why countries want the Grand Prix.”

Given that the Philippines is trying to improve its image worldwide, a Grand Prix cannot come at a better time.

“If you have a Grand Prix, suddenly people will look at the country in a more positive light,” Goddard says. “So it will be extremely beneficial to the country.”

Beneficial but …

EXECUTED correctly and with everything considered, the presence of a Formula One track is the perfect one-event marketing pitch, a blanket advertising tool that will attract tourists like no one million WOWs can do.

But building the track drifting away from the success equation bodes a disaster of catastrophic proportions.

The skyrocket cost to build the track coupled with the effort (expected to be pulled in just to convince hard-to-please F1 godfather Bernie Ecclestone) and the length of time investing that effort (more than a year counting the FIA’s approval of a Grand Prix) mean failure is not an option.

Andolong estimates that the track can cost at least $100 million, or P4.5 billion, (or more than seven times the annual budget of the Philippine Sports Commission).

The first thing entrepreneural common sense asks is, how do you recoup that investment?

“Once you build the track, ’yun ang pinakamalaking fear factor that organizers have to contend with,” Andolong says.

In Sepang (Malaysia), the nearest track that holds an F1 Grand Prix, track owners are charging local race events “four times the normal rates,” Andolong reveals.

“Actually the problem with Sepang is, after each Grand Prix walang nangyayari du’n sa track. To keep it operating, they’re charging those who want to use it an arm and a leg.”

The first sector that will return the organizers’ investment are the fans.

According to Goddard, tickets can be bought at $13 (or roughly P500) in Shanghai, “but when you consider the earnings of an average Chinese, it’s not cheap,” he says.
Andolong agrees.

“The quality of our fans in terms of Formula One IQ will rival anyone in the world. But in terms of numbers, it’s a different story. Formula One is still basically an A-B sport. Sa numbers, to make it feasible for the owner to recoup the investment, hindi pa siguro tayo ready. ’Yung normal man on the street, baka hindi pa nila kilala si Michael Schumacher.”

“In Europe, the ticket receipts are a big part of the equation,” Goddard adds. “But if you’re promoting a Grand Prix in Asia, you’re getting a smaller crowd that is paying much, much less. So without subsidy from other government or sponsor, there’s going to be a problem.”

Catch 22

GRANTING organizers have a foolproof plan so that the goals for the F1 track don’t go up in flames, Goddard fears that Philippine motorsports may ultimately be the sacrificial lamb.

One of the reasons for the skepticism over the construction of a Formula One track is it acts as a kind of a black hole. Much like basketball is sucking up corporate sponsorship, a Formula One presence, most motorsports-events organizers fear, may gobble up the remaining sponsorship pie, leaving others to fight for loose change.

“If you look at local motorsports in Malaysia, it’s a pale comparison to what it was 10 years ago where there was a very strong national scene,” Goddard recalls. “It was a growing motorsport industry. Then Sepang came along and the sponsors wanted to be involved with F1, nothing else. If you look at China and Shanghai, it’s to a lesser extent.

“But again, potential sponsors are just interested in F1 to the detriment of national motorsport inside China.”

“If the corporations can pitch in, it’s possible to come up with the budget,” Andolong says. “But the problem with that is, with the sponsorship base that’s so narrow, baka ’yung mga ibang sports hindi na makatikim. That’s the problem kasi with the local sports. They all go after the same sponsors, but they can only come up with so much.”

Feasibility

TO make a Philippine Grand Prix work, Goddard suggests building up the Filipino Formula One driver first, meaning there must be a priority set for strengthening the local scene before building the Formula One track.

“The way the structure should be is you should look at it as a pyramid. Start with low-cost grassroots with go-karting, then you go up to national formula, and so on until Formula One,” Goddard proposes.

“Lewis Hamilton is probably going to win the world championship. But what many don’t look back and see is he started racing when he was eight with karts. When he was nine, he was basically a professional driver. In other words, they planned how his career developed. You can’t fast-track it. You need the experience at a very competitive level to develop your skills.”

Honing a driver more than building a track is more practical, too.

“Honestly,” Goddard admits, “there’s a much better, much cheaper chance getting a driver to Formula One than holding a Grand Prix.”

Andolong suggests investing the money on the Grand Prix itself rather than on the track.

When asked what Grand Prix model should the Philippines emulate, Andolong points to the Melbourne GP.

“Building a world-class facility, it’s a big endeavor. Once somebody embarks on it, bibitbitin mo agad ang cost, and that would have to have a bearing on what you’re going to do in the next four or five years. Ano lang ang mga options? Sponsorship? Charge ka ng mahal sa gagamit? Pero may problema ang pagmi-maintain.

“I think it’s good to look to Australia with what they’re doing. The Albert Park is a semipermanent circuit. Gumagamit s’ya ng streets like Macau pero malalawak s’ya at mahahaba kaya pumasa s’ya sa F1 homologation. Kapag hindi Grand Prix weekend, tinatanggal nila ang mga bakod tapos normal street s’ya.”

Andolong thinks the reclamation area around Macapagal will be a “nice” option. Not only is it aesthetically viable, it will also give good reason for an important sector—the government—to be involved in raising funds.

“Du’n kasi hindi masyadong mahal gawin, kahit may mga bangketa. All you need is a grandstand, buildings, and paddock area to accommodate the equipment of the teams,” he says.

“It gives the government reason to come up with money kasi, ’yung infrastruce kapag na-construct, gagamitin talaga ng public. ’Di gaya ng racetrack, pangkarera lang talaga ’yun. Mahirap kasi i-justify sa national government, na gagastos tayo ng milyon sa racetrack.”

The immense appeal of a Philippine Formula One Grand Prix isn’t lost in Goddard, but that doesn’t mean he isn’t cautious.

“It will definitely put the Philippines on the world map overnight, but looking at it practically, it’s a huge undertaking which will be difficult to be successful,” he says. “It would be frustrating if what little finance there is in the industry goes to a project that is extremely difficult to achieve. I mean, wouldn’t it be better to try and get a Filipino driver into Formula One first? To do that it would cost a lot less money and would still bring income.”

Andolong believes it will be a dream come true, no doubt, bringing in Ferrari, McLaren, Renault and the Formula One circus to the Philippines. How long that dream stays alive is another story.

“It’s exciting but the question is, ‘can it be done’? Sa akin, of course, I’d welcome it. For that week na tumatakbo, hypothetically tourism will be up. Local industries, restaurants malaking tulong sa kanila ’yun. But it’ll be interesting to see if we can sustain the track until the following year.”

Building and having an F1 circuit doesnt mean you automatically book yourself a Grand Prix. Having a designer associated with Tilke inspecting possible sites doesnt guarantee you an F1 Grand Prix. If they are serious in holding one for the Philippines, ligawan muna nila sa Bernie Ecclestone.

Kung ako. I'd probably build a sports complex na may Olympic size stadium, in-door arena's etc equipped with open areas and incorporate a track layout sa design similar to Melbourne like sa nakasulat sa article. That way, pag walang GP, mapapakinabangan pa rin siya as park or venues for different events. At the same time, we can provide our athletes good facilities to train na rin.

dubai is building a $40 BILLION race track ala monaco...

hosting an F1 race is very expensive...and the race calendar is also a problem...dapat ata mga 19 races or less lang per season...ok ang s'pore grand prix, night race...

dapat ayusin nila ang mga facilities like airport, hotels...

build this F1 circuit after Clark International Airport has finished building its gargantuan terminal and all supporting facilites, and becomes Manila's main international airport. and also after MNTC decides to expand the NLEX to 4 lanes per direction from the Tabang spur overpass up to Santa Ines. that will make this proposed F1 circuit to be a success

dubai is building a $40 BILLION race track ala monaco...

hosting an F1 race is very expensive...and the race calendar is also a problem...dapat ata mga 19 races or less lang per season...ok ang s'pore grand prix, night race...

dapat ayusin nila ang mga facilities like airport, hotels...

...$40 Billion Dollar Racetrack?!!!!...is that for real?!!..is the track covered in gold and glittered with diamonds or something or what?!!..I don't understand how it can cost that much.....someone explain..

Gawa na yung Dubai Autodrome eh, pero mukhang marami pa kulang na facilities. Di kaya yung Motor City that will be built around it yung sinasabi mong $40 Billion development? Baka kasama na sa 40Billion tong natapos ng circuit. They are building one din sa Abu Dhabi tapos ang Doha rin, may plans din yata to host a GP.
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Rather than build a racetrack, it would be for the better good of the country to construct a stadium larger than our current Araneta Colliseum.

Gawa na yung Dubai Autodrome eh, pero mukhang marami pa kulang na facilities. Di kaya yung Motor City that will be built around it yung sinasabi mong $40 Billion development? Baka kasama na sa 40Billion tong natapos ng circuit. They are building one din sa Abu Dhabi tapos ang Doha rin, may plans din yata to host a GP.
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It's literally in the middle of the desert! ganyan ba palagi sa Dubai? and disiyerto tinutubuan ng ganyan?

But I have to agree with the opinion that says it is better to build a good sports stadium than an F1 racetrack.