Hopefully we can end second to Singapore and take over Malaysia.

Hmm....I wonder, are the officials (judges, referees and umpires) all pooled from the member nations? They should employ international judges, preferably from each of the sports' international governing bodies (federations) to oversee that the games are played in a fair and orderly fashion. But that might be asking too much, after all, the SEA Games are a small regional sporting meet. Maybe there will be a time for that, just not now.

No matter what happens, there is still no shame in placing 5th 4th ord 3rd. Even if we were the defending champions, there is absolutely nothing that we have to prove. We won the over-all championship fair and square in 2005.

May we be as gracious in defeat as we were in winning. Stop the talk of cheating and actually file complaints to officials. By that, we have made something noble that even Thaksin Shinawatra was not able to do in 2005.

well i think it's ok we end up 4th or 5th most of our best athletes never particpated in Asean Games , mostly they are preparing for the Olympics , i know the world class Filipino boxing team didn't go to Thailand :cheers:

Hopefully we can end second to Singapore and take over Malaysia.

Careful... this means "get control or possession". That would be war!
Switch the places of these two words then fuse them into one "overtake" and that would mean we "go beyond" their standing in the medal tally.:)

^^ :lol: Ever the grammar police! :colgate:

lol.

I think I just say the proper words, maybe my grammars does not fit to your interpretations, well I am not an english genius as you. Base on what is tabulated on previous page, singapore, malaysia, indonesia and the philippines respectively are to close to each others in terms of gold ranking and few more days to go and I dont know how many more games do we need to compete and the rest. My intentions is just to hope that we place second to singapore if they prevail their standing strength and ahead of malaysia or indonesia on the final tally.

^^ :lol: Ever the grammar police! :colgate:

^^if ever there was a english grammar competition in the SEA games, we're definitely going to win the Gold,:lol:

Unfair and biased judging has been in almost all sea games. No surprise Vietnam, Malaysia and the Philippines are able to be overall champion when they hosted the game. What goes around comes around, when we hosted the games in 2005, i read many reports of biased and unfair judging which incline the gold towards the Philippines. But of course i read in Malaysian newspaper. The same goes to Thailand this year, they are the host, but i see them as a worthy winner. Nothing short of miracle though, if the philippines managed to keep overall champion here in Korat. Isn't it funny, a country with little sporting culture amongst us, could end up as overall champion? Some deserved it, some got their gold medal by having "home advantage", some got theirs by "biased judging". This is life.

If Singapore or Brunei host the game and ended up as overall champion in the future...what can i say....

I only see Thailand as the sporting powerhouse in Asean. Vietnam is fast catching up, thanks to their communist training regime which is quite successful in nurturing athletes (China, Cuba, Russia and many ex-USSR countries) with little more or less than what we have in sports budget. Indonesia has potential because the country is so large and their sporting facilities are way better than us. Malaysia had the money and infrastructure sadly they dont maximise it, Singapore has a lot of Chinese and some African/whites in their football team. Brunei seems to have no ambition in any kind, be it economy, science or sport.

Phillipines has a lot of budding athletes but i suggest for the government to spend more on athletes and facilities development.

Lmao take over and overtake. :rofl:
Ang hirap ng English. lol

I think I just say the proper words, maybe my grammars does not fit to your interpretations, well I am not an english genius as you. Base on what is tabulated on previous page, singapore, malaysia, indonesia and the philippines respectively are to close to each others in terms of gold ranking and few more days to go and I dont know how many more games do we need to compete and the rest. My intentions is just to hope that we place second to singapore if they prevail their standing strength and ahead of malaysia or indonesia on the final tally.

Sorry if it seemed like I was putting you in a bad light. That wasn't my intention. Please consider it as constructive criticism. I have my defects too and I would be glad if somebody would tell me my errors and wrongdoings. In that way, I can be a better person.

I understood what you meant but someone out there might not. Let's all be conscious of what we say as to avoid confusion and misunderstandings.:cheers:

^^ i like the Trillianess word " oust" :lol:


btw its also very diff. when you say over come than come over :naughty:

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RP Mens Basketball team going for Gold today.

@ icarus rising,

no problem buddy, all of us are subject to inperfection. Good luck to the men's team, we have the name for that title Go Philippines......Go

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san site to nakikita?

^^http://www.2007seagames.com/

^ty

atleast pangalawa tau sa pinakamadami ngaun

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latest news: RP defaulted its 1st 2 finals boxing match in protest to the judging of the Competition.

if ever there was a english grammar competition in the SEA games, we're definitely going to win the Gold,:lol:

Tru dat! :yes:

no problem buddy, all of us are subject to inperfection. Good luck to the men's team, we have the name for that title Go Philippines......Go

If Icarus is the grammar police. I am the spelling police! :lol: The correct spelling is "imperfection." :colgate:

can you give us free english clinic? ang mahal ng english tutorial dito sa Manila eh:D

Tru dat! :yes:



If Icarus is the grammar police. I am the spelling police! :lol: The correct spelling is "imperfection." :colgate:

^^Gold rin tayo dyan sa Spelling syempre.:lol:

‘We resign’ (http://www.malaya.com.ph/dec14/spor1.htm)
Boxers give up fight for gold without really trying in protest over biased judging


BY NOLI CORTEZ

NAKHON RATCHASIMA. — Sick and tired of being repeatedly "robbed," especially on the boxing ring, Team Philippines showed its own fury by staging a virtual walkout Thursday in the 24th Southeast Asian Games here.

All but one of seven Filipino boxers in the men’s finals gave up the fight without really trying, "resigning" their finals matches against Thai rivals as their way of protesting what is perceived as a spate of hometown decisions.

Flyweight Godfrey Castro and bantamweight Junel Cantancio raised their hands when they were ordered by the referee to mix it up with their Thai opponents, relinquishing the potential gold in the belief their efforts will only go to naught in the face of the host team’s drive to win the coveted mints at all cost.

Featherweight Orlando Tacuyan Jr. did fight Sailom Adi but quit after the second round with the Thai ahead 16-2.

The Thais nearly won all gold medals in boxing, foiled in just one weight category by a Pinay boxer, in a show that is mighty impressive and, at the same time, eyebrow-raising at the very least.

Team RP couldn’t care less, even if the potential golds could have gone a long way in their stretch drive for the meet that has "Spirit, Friendship and Celebrations" as its theme.

The RP boxers did not boycott the finals, as was initially mulled, but staged their own unique kind of protest to show their indignation.

Middleweight Junie Tizon and light-heavy Maximino Tabangcora fought for a round each before "conceding" at the start of the second round, while lightweight Joegin Ladon quit with 1:27 to go in the first round. Super light Larry Semillano saw action the full route but still scored only four points to his Thai foes’ 10.

Those among the remaining RP contingent here are trying to do their own part in fouling up the hosts’ grand design.

The men’s basketball team, for example, did its part, venting its ire on the hosts with an emphatic 94-53 win over the Thais.

Ageless middleweight judoka John "SEA Games Legend" Baylon beat a Thai foe en route to copping his ninth gold while cyclist Baby Marites Bitbit charged past a Thai rider to rule the women’s road race.

Taekwondo jin Tshomlee Go (under-67kg) and the men’s and women’s softball teams also completed golden sweeps, among their victims Thais.

Boxing’s move, however, could dearly cost the country in its bid to finish at least third, with 72 gold medals left to be disputed over the last two days of competitions.

The six gold medals for the day as of press time were enough, however, to hike Team RP’s total wins to 39 and a tie with Indonesia at fourth. The Filipinos, however, have more silvers, 65-52. Singapore slipped to fifth from third, just a gold medal behind Team RP and the Indons.

Aside from the boxers’, the country’s silver edges were boosted by the second place finishes of karatedos Ireneo Toribio, Jose Mari Pabillore, Ma. Esperanza Manansala and Cherli Tugday, plus the women’s golf team led by Anya Tanpingco.

Of the six Filipinas who made it to the finals, only flyweight Annie Albania emerged with a gold–and only because she knocked out her Thai foe in the first round.

The rest all lost on points, including featherweight Ronijen Sofla who absorbed a 0-19 "beating" that left Team RP officials incredulous and seething.

^^ That's sad. But I understand Team Philippines' ire with the unfair and biased practices in judging to favor the hometown favorite.

Now the Filipinos know how everyone else felt two years ago.

what's that feeling like?

what's that feeling like?

There was a near-riot on boxing match somewhere in Bacolod, two years ago.

‘We resign’ (http://www.malaya.com.ph/dec14/spor1.htm)
Boxers give up fight for gold without really trying in protest over biased judging


BY NOLI CORTEZ

NAKHON RATCHASIMA. — Sick and tired of being repeatedly "robbed," especially on the boxing ring, Team Philippines showed its own fury by staging a virtual walkout Thursday in the 24th Southeast Asian Games here.

All but one of seven Filipino boxers in the men’s finals gave up the fight without really trying, "resigning" their finals matches against Thai rivals as their way of protesting what is perceived as a spate of hometown decisions.

Flyweight Godfrey Castro and bantamweight Junel Cantancio raised their hands when they were ordered by the referee to mix it up with their Thai opponents, relinquishing the potential gold in the belief their efforts will only go to naught in the face of the host team’s drive to win the coveted mints at all cost.

Featherweight Orlando Tacuyan Jr. did fight Sailom Adi but quit after the second round with the Thai ahead 16-2.

The Thais nearly won all gold medals in boxing, foiled in just one weight category by a Pinay boxer, in a show that is mighty impressive and, at the same time, eyebrow-raising at the very least.

Team RP couldn’t care less, even if the potential golds could have gone a long way in their stretch drive for the meet that has "Spirit, Friendship and Celebrations" as its theme.

The RP boxers did not boycott the finals, as was initially mulled, but staged their own unique kind of protest to show their indignation.

Middleweight Junie Tizon and light-heavy Maximino Tabangcora fought for a round each before "conceding" at the start of the second round, while lightweight Joegin Ladon quit with 1:27 to go in the first round. Super light Larry Semillano saw action the full route but still scored only four points to his Thai foes’ 10.

Those among the remaining RP contingent here are trying to do their own part in fouling up the hosts’ grand design.

The men’s basketball team, for example, did its part, venting its ire on the hosts with an emphatic 94-53 win over the Thais.

Ageless middleweight judoka John "SEA Games Legend" Baylon beat a Thai foe en route to copping his ninth gold while cyclist Baby Marites Bitbit charged past a Thai rider to rule the women’s road race.

Taekwondo jin Tshomlee Go (under-67kg) and the men’s and women’s softball teams also completed golden sweeps, among their victims Thais.

Boxing’s move, however, could dearly cost the country in its bid to finish at least third, with 72 gold medals left to be disputed over the last two days of competitions.

The six gold medals for the day as of press time were enough, however, to hike Team RP’s total wins to 39 and a tie with Indonesia at fourth. The Filipinos, however, have more silvers, 65-52. Singapore slipped to fifth from third, just a gold medal behind Team RP and the Indons.

Aside from the boxers’, the country’s silver edges were boosted by the second place finishes of karatedos Ireneo Toribio, Jose Mari Pabillore, Ma. Esperanza Manansala and Cherli Tugday, plus the women’s golf team led by Anya Tanpingco.

Of the six Filipinas who made it to the finals, only flyweight Annie Albania emerged with a gold–and only because she knocked out her Thai foe in the first round.

The rest all lost on points, including featherweight Ronijen Sofla who absorbed a 0-19 "beating" that left Team RP officials incredulous and seething.

eh mas malala pala itong mga Thais eh, biruin mo 0-19? :lol: wow. galing ah. at least tayo nung nagreklamo sila eh pinapunta pa natin yung representative nila para sila mismo makakita personally. At diba nakipagsayawan pa nga sila kay Cecil Mamiit?

Well thanks for the spelling correction, anyway atleast we are not really behind much in medal standings. hayaan na lang ninyo yung mga insecured thais na yan, kaya gusto nilang mahakot yung maraming gold kasi mahal da yung pagpapagawa niyan at para sulit naman yung ginastos nila sa event na ito, atleast kung sa kanila ang favor bawi din yung ginastos, that's business, hehehe joke only......

Iba ang ugali ng mga Thais...magkampihan sila whether it is right or wrong...matataas ang ere nila...even the crowd ma feel mo na kinalaban ka nila..

we're 2nd to the overall medal tally. #5 when it comes to gold. #2 in silver & bronze.
our tennis players are quite doing well. so far, they're keeping it up w/ powerhouse thailand.

There was a near-riot on boxing match somewhere in Bacolod, two years ago.


oh I was there, people threw water bottles in the ring, you have to understand it's different when you're there, you can really see, when there's a mistake,..the points where going up all of a sudden,.. people where extra vigilant, cause the place is a mecca for boxing, people know the rules, most of the players were hometown folks too..

Nevertheless, whatever happens, I'm proud of what our athletes have done. They really have had the heart and the passion to win and make our country proud. :D Go Team Philippines.

I'm just happy with what the Philippine swimming team, especially the men's team, has achieved in the 2007 SEAG. The swimming program is now reaping the fruits of their hardwork through the years. Hopefully, tuloy-tuloy na talaga to for them. Bring back the glory of Phil swimming in the SEAG just like during the time of Eric Buhain. Kudos to Miguel Molina, Ryan Arabejo, James Walsh and Daniel Coakley. Eight (8) golds, WOOOOOOWWW!! :cheers:

but they are all Fil-Ams :D , i hope we can train homegrown swimmers , btw why no lady swimmer won a medal , di ba meron magaling na babae trained in Australia.

Fil-Ams are also Filipinos nonetheless. :okay:

^^ no pun intended kimbro :) it's just our sports program tend to look for "shortcuts" which is not good , i am looking forward for a long term program and i guess it starts in the grassroots .

but they are all Fil-Ams :D , i hope we can train homegrown swimmers , btw why no lady swimmer won a medal , di ba meron magaling na babae trained in Australia.

It's still the Philippine National Anthem that got played anyway, when they won..... Let's just be happy with the honors they achieved for our country.... :cheers:

no pun intended kimbro :) it's just our sports program tend to look for "shortcuts" which is not good , i am looking forward for a long term program and i guess it starts in the grassroots .

No offense taken. :colgate: But that's beginning to be the norm these days when it comes to athletes representing other nations even though they aren't ethnically from these countries. You see Eastern Europeans migrating to the West (North America or Western Europe) to compete for those countries, Africans flocking to Europe and representing them, and of course, halfbreed Asians going back to their respective countries of their parental origins. It's an ever changing and smaller world we live in.

It's still the Philippine National Anthem that got played anyway, when they won..... Let's just be happy with the honors they achieved for our country.... :cheers:

i am HAPPY but i think they have to learn how to sing our national anthem too ;)

^^ They can sing the national anthem, but with a coño accent! :lol:

so today's the last day of the games. hope we could still add some more golds w/ our impressive tally especially in diving. :)

New sport complex u/c in Vientiane, Lao PDR for 25th SEA Games in 2009

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^^ no pun intended kimbro :) it's just our sports program tend to look for "shortcuts" which is not good , i am looking forward for a long term program and i guess it starts in the grassroots .

i agree... sayang naman ang kabataan sa pilipinas, they are reallytalented i could see.. kaya lang talaga walang programa... eh yung fil ams, mayayaman naman yun sila eh tapos excellent ang training. pero dapat rin marunong magfilipino :cheers:

No offense taken. :colgate: But that's beginning to be the norm these days when it comes to athletes representing other nations even though they aren't ethnically from these countries. You see Eastern Europeans migrating to the West (North America or Western Europe) to compete for those countries, Africans flocking to Europe and representing them, and of course, halfbreed Asians going back to their respective countries of their parental origins. It's an ever changing and smaller world we live in.

pero sana bigyan naman nila ng chansa ang over 90 million pinoys sa pilipinas :cheers:

and what i fear is basta may patak ng dugo ng pinoy.. eh puede na... so kung me 1/8 filipino, who looks nothing filipino and knows nothing filipino can be recruited for his talents

New sport complex u/c in Vientiane, Lao PDR for 25th SEA Games in 2009

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Nice to know that Vientiane is already on its way preparing for the next SEA Games. By the way, is this Vientiane's first time hosting the Games?

I think so:)

Whoa ! I'm so proud of Laos !

we're back at 6th place. No chance of getting the 4th spot. :(

New sport complex u/c in Vientiane, Lao PDR for 25th SEA Games in 2009

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maggawa rin sana ang Pinas ng ganito!

hanggang 6th place na lng...pero 2nd sa total medals!haha!

at last, the joke that we call 24thSEAG is now over.

^^ :lol: Now it's on to Beijing for the Olympics! Starts on 08-08-2008. :okay:

A REFRESHER

SEA Games History

The origins of athletic competition lie in the mists of time when tribal members competed in the everyday skills of survival. The fastest and strongest were lauded, for it was they who ensured the tribe’s continued existence, in times of peace and in times of war.

Certainly, Laung Sukhumanaipradit is hardly a household name, yet as a vice president of the Olympic Committee, he first floated the idea of a smaller sports event comprising the nations of the Southeast Asian peninsula, during the Third Asian Games held in Tokyo in 1958. At a meeting held on 22 May the same year, representatives from Burma (Myanmar), Laos and Malaysia met with their Thai hosts to explore the possibilities.

There was a certain logic to the idea. The countries of the region had many similarities. Modest of population and on a comparable economic footing, they shared common sports participation as well as roughly equal standards of achievement. Such an event would serve as a stepping stone for Southeast Asian athletes to raise their standards so as to be more competitive when they met more advantaged athletes in the larger arenas of the Asian and Olympic Games.

The meeting resulted in the formation of the Southeast Asian Peninsula (SEAP) Games Federation in June 1959, the founder members being Burma, Cambodia, Laos, Malaysia, Thailand and Vietnam - hence the six interlocked rings which formed the Games logo. The first president of the Federation was General Prabhas Charusatiara of Thailand and Luang Mayapradit was elected vice president with Dr Kalya Israsena taking the role of honorary secretary. Other pioneer members of the committee included Ms U Paing of Burma, His Highness Sisowath Essaro of Cambodia, Mr Nakkhla Souvannong of Laos, Mr Thong Poh Nyen of Malaysia and Mr Bguyen Phuoc Vong of Vietnam.

In deference to their efforts in bringing the whole concept to fruition, Thailand was given the honour of hosting the inaugural SEAP Games in 1959. Formally declared open by His Majesty King Bhumibol Adulyadej of Thailand in Bangkok’s National Stadium, some 800 athletes and officials took part in 12 sporting disciplines: Athletics, Badminton, Basketball, Boxing, Cycling, Football, Tennis, Shooting, Swimming, Table Tennis, Volleyball and Weightlifting. The atmosphere of friendly competition added to the whole experience and the SEAP Games were definitely ‘off and running’.

The Federation had already decided that in future "the honour of hosting the SEAP Games shall be entrusted to the member organisation of each country in rotation in alphabetical order". Thus the hosts for the II SEAP Games were the Burmese, and President Win Maung of the Union of Burma inaugurated the 1961 meet at Rangoon. Cambodia did not take part in the inaugural Games but joined the fray in the second Games at Rangoon in 1961 which had a full turnout of the seven countries. Again, more than 800 athletes and officials took part and shared in the friendly ambience of athletic rivalry and social interaction.

The year 1963 saw a hiccup in planning though, as due to unsettling in-country conditions - and a disagreement with the International Amateur Athletic Federation - the designated hosts Cambodia were not able to host the event. The III SEAP Games then passed to Laos as hosts, but they begged off the 1965 event citing financial difficulties. Fortunately though, Malaysia steeped into the breach which, by right, should have been held in 1963 and the eight days sporting extravaganza was held in Kuala Lumpur with around 1,300 athletes and officials taking part. By now the SEAP Games Federation had gained another member with Singapore’s independence from the Malaysian Federation in August that year.

The incapability of Cambodia, Laos and South Vietnam to take on the job of hosting the Games in the foreseeable future raised some concern among the other member countries. Even the participation of these countries was limited to token squads. In 1967, Cambodia again declined to host the Games, but Thailand took over and some 1,200 participants gathered in Bangkok. The next scheduled hosts were Vietnam, but they too had to reluctantly inform the Federation that troubles in the country prevented them from fulfilling their obligations, and the V SEAP Games returned to Rangoon. Singapore, the youngest member of the family, made the first move to alleviate the situation. In 1969 at Rangoon the Fifth Games were held, they proposed changing the SEAP Games name to SEA (South East Asia ) Games.

No names were mentioned but it was clear that Singapore thought of reinforcements from Indonesia and Philippines to help lift the sagging fortunes of the series. These two countries, which were more advanced in the affairs of international sport that the original members of the SEAP Games Federation, would not only be able to help out in the hosts job which was going abetting but also enter contestants of a higher standard in some events.

Thailand held on to their belief that the SEAP Games should be a small family affair and that going out of the peninsular would defeat the original purpose of the Games. An expanded Games would also not be in the real spirit of close neighbours.

Two years later, when Kuala Lumpur’s turn to officially host the VI SEAP Games for the second time in six years, Malaysia joined hands with Singapore to resubmit the name change proposal. Again, there was no success.

The Games continued in their original framework but the serious competition was provided only by Thailand, Burma, Malaysia and Singapore. Cambodia, and later Khmer, Laos and South Vietnam sent competitors who were mostly full time soldiers with little or no training in the events they were entered.

The four "active" countries who had carry the burden of hosting the Games were further depleted when Burma showed no further interest in helping out after hosting the 1969 Games, due to the deteriorating economy in their country.

6th SEAP Games Medal count

Position Country Gold Silver Bronze Total
1 Thailand 44 27 38 109
2 Malaysia 41 43 55 139
3 Singapore 32 33 31 96
4 Burma 20 28 13 61
5 Khmer Republic 17 18 17 52
6 South Vietnam 3 6 9 18
7 Laos 0 1 4 5

Singapore hosted the VII SEAP Games for the first time with a full turnout of seven countries being held at the new and modern National Stadium in 1973. However, when Bangkok took its turn as host for the VII SEAP Games two years later, only four members organisations turned up - political problems in Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam prevented their participation and cast serious doubts on their ability to take part in upcoming events anytime soon.

7th SEAP Games Medal count

Rank Country Gold Silver Bronze Total
1 Thailand 47 25 27 99
2 Singapore 45 50 45 140
3 Malaysia 30 35 50 115
4 Burma 28 24 15 67
5 Khmer Republic 9 12 20 41
6 South Vietnam 2 13 10 25
7 Laos 0 5 4 9


8th SEAP Games Medal count

Position Country Gold Silver Bronze Total
1 Thailand 80 45 39 164
2 Singapore 38 42 49 129
3 Burma 28 35 33 96
4 Malaysia 27 49 51 127

An idea that had flamed so boldly into life less that two decades before now seemed liable to be extinguished, crippled by regional political problems and the increasing cost burden of hosting the event so regularly - Thailand had already hosted the Games three times, and Burma and Malaysia twice apiece. A lifeline was needed.

Malaysia tendered a suggestion - extend the Federation to include other countries in the Southeast Asian region. To back up its proposal, Malaysia offered to again host the Games on the proviso that Brunei, Indonesia and Philippines be invited to take part. A solution had been found and on 5 February 1977, these three new members were officially welcomed into the Federation. Present on this occasion were Ferry Sonneville of Indonesia and Colonel Nereo Andolong of the Philippines.

Still, it was not plain sailing. Behind the scenes persuasion on the eve of the meeting by Olympic Council of Malaysia President, Tan Sri Hamzah Abu Samah got Thailand to withdraw some reservations about a change in name for the Games. Thailand, with good reason, viewed the Games with some sentiment. They were instrumental in starting the series and did not wish to let their early work go to waste.

With fresh life breathed into the biennial event, the only cosmetic change required was to drop the word "Peninsula" from the federation’s title - the emblem and the sequential numbering of the Games would remain to perpetuate the objectives, aspirations and contributions of the original founders. The IX SEA Games (the first to bear that title ) was held in Kuala Lumpur in 1977 with seven countries participating.

9th SEA Games Medal count

Position Country Gold Silver Bronze Total
1 Indonesia 62 41 34 137
2 Thailand 37 35 33 105
3 Philippines 31 30 30 91
4 Burma 25 42 43 110
5 Malaysia 21 17 21 59
6 Singapore 14 21 28 63
7 Brunei 1 0 0 3 3

Indonesia and the Philippines have been of full value to the movement since becoming members. As new members of the club, Indonesia hosted the X SEA Games in Jakarta in 1979, and the Philippines hosted for the first time in 1981 in Manila when over 2,000 athletes and officials took part. The XII Games were to be held in Brunei to start anew the alphabetical schedule of hosts, but Singapore took over when the tiny nation begged off because of its preparations for the celebration of its forthcoming independence from the United Kingdom.

10th SEA Games Medal count

Position Country Gold Silver Bronze Total
1. Indonesia 92 78 52 222
2. Thailand 50 46 29 125
3. Burma 26 26 24 76
4. Philippines 24 31 38 93
5. Malaysia 19 23 39 81
6. Singapore 16 20 36 72
7. Brunei 1 0 1 0 1

11th SEA Games Medal count

Position Country Gold Silver Bronze Total
1 Indonesia 85 73 56 214
2 Thailand 62 45 41 148
3 Philippines 55 55 77 187
4 Malaysia 16 27 31 74
5 Burma 15 19 27 61
6 Singapore 12 26 33 71
7 Brunei 1 0 0 0 0

Since that time the Games have gone from strength to strength, the XIII being held in Bangkok, XIV in Jakarta and the XV in Kuala Lumpur in 1989, which saw the return of Laos and Vietnam for the first time under the new title. With nine out of the ten member countries participating, it was not only the largest in the history of the Games to date but also in the number of athletes and officials with a total 3,160 on hand.

Manila hosted the next SEA Games, followed by Singapore when 4,611 athletes and officials were on hand. The XVIII SEA Games in Chiang Mai broke new ground in that it was the first time the Games had been held outside the capital city of the host nation; it was also the first time that all 10 member nations - the last re-entry being Cambodia - turned up to compete.

12th SEA Games Medal count

Position Country Gold Silver Bronze Total
1. Indonesia 64 67 54 185
2. Philippines 49 48 53 150
3. Thailand 49 40 38 127
4. Singapore 38 38 58 134
5. Burma 18 15 17 50
6. Malaysia 16 25 40 81
7. BruneiTemplate:Ref 1 0 0 5 5
8. People's Republic of Kampuchea 0 0 0 0


13th Bangkok SEA Games Medal count

Position Country: Gold Silver Bronze Total
1. Thailand 92 66 59 217
2. Indonesia 62 73 76 211
3. Philippines 43 54 32 129
4. Malaysia 26 28 32 86
5. Singapore 16 11 23 50
6. Burma 13 19 34 66
7. Brunei 0 0 3 3
8. People's Republic of Kampuchea 0 0 0 0


The XIX SEA Games was held at Jakarta with a record number of 6007 athletes and officials participated. A total of 34 sporting disciplines with 1,432 medals were offered in this Game. It was a far cry from the first Games held in Thailand 38 years ago, when 800 pioneers turned up to contest 12 sporting events.

14th SEA Games Medal count

Position Country Gold Silver Bronze Total
1 Indonesia 183 136 84 407
2 Thailand 63 57 67 188
3 Philippines 59 78 69 206
4 Malaysia 35 41 67 144
5 Singapore 19 38 64 121
6 Burma 13 15 21 50
7 Brunei 1 5 17 24
8 People's Republic of Kampuchea 0 1 9 10


After much coaxing from the Southeast Asia Games Federation Council, Brunei Darussalam accepted to host the XX SEA Games for the first time. In view of the facilities available, a total of 21 sporting disciplines will be offered during the Games from 7th - 15th August 1999. Polo will be introduced for the first time in the Games.

The XVIII SEA Games in Chiang Mai saw the full turn-out of 10 member nation for the first time, but the progress in improving the quality of participation in the Asian and Olympic Games from the SEA family is slow. Since the birth of SEAP Games, Thailand , the Philippines and Malaysia have won a Silver and Bronze medal each and Indonesia a Gold, Silver and Bronze in the Olympic Games.

Whether this successes would had been achieved if there were no SEAP / SEA Games is difficult to say but there are more people knocking on the door for Asian and Olympic selection after participating in the SEA Games.

Another welcome development in the prominence given to the region’s endogenous sports and its potential in being accepted for competition in the Asian Games.

Sepak Takraw was accepted for SEAP Games competition in 1965 and it has been in every Games programme since then except in 1969 when the Games were held in Rangoon. The name Sepak Takraw itself was coined at a Federation Meeting in Kuala Lumpur in 1965, combining the Malaysian and Thai names for the traditional sport. It has since enjoyed international status as a competitive sports and been a demonstration sport in the 1982 Asian Games in New Delhi.

Silat Olahraga, a martial art of the region, and traditional boat races were SEA Games event for the first time in Jakarta in 1987. They are in the program since then. Silat Olahraga has made giant strides outside the SEA Games framework and there are World Championships with good participation from European countries as well.

In 1989 Kuala Lumpur SEA Games, body building has been paired off as one event with weight lifting and the traditional boat race taking refuge under yachting. Wushu another martial art and squash, were first introduced in the Manila XVI SEA Games 1991. In 1989 Kuala Lumpur SEA Games, body building has been paired off as one event with weight lifting and the traditional boat race taking refuge under yachting. Athletics and swimming are compulsory sports.

15th SEA Games Medal count

Position Country Gold Silver Bronze Total
1 Indonesia 102 78 71 251
2 Malaysia 67 58 75 200
3 Thailand 62 63 66 191
4 Singapore 32 38 47 117
5 Philippines 26 37 64 127
6 Myanmar 10 14 20 44
7 Vietnam 3 11 5 19
8 Brunei 1 2 24 27
9 Laos 0 1 0 1


For the first thirteen SEAP/SEA Games (1959 - 1985), the average number of events in the Games is 16. Since then, the average rose to 28 event which Jakarta offered the highest number in 1997. The lowest number of events is 12 with 67 gold medals made up for the first Games in 1959 while the highest is 34 with 438 gold in the 1997 programme in Jakarta.

Somewhere up above, Laung Sukhumanaipradit must be smiling contentedly. His vision has grown into not only the region’s major sporting attraction but, despite problems along the way, has done much to foster a closer, mutual understanding between the nations of Southeast Asia.

Source: Olympic Thailand

Why Philippines topped in 2005 SEA Games

- inalis ang events na magaling ang ibang bansa at mahina tayo, at event na hindi makakapagparticipate ang Pilipinas (Basketball) one gold din yun
- idinagdag ang events na magaling tayo (e.g. dancesport) o home grown (e.g. arnis - sana gawing 50 categories ito next time)
- homecourt advantage
- most no. of participants
- meron nang dual citizenship sa Pinas kaya nakapagparticipate ang mga halves-halves (hehe)
- and finally, multiple venues :)

^^ malaking factor talaga yang venues? namaximize natin yung talents sa kanilang homecourts... like football for bacolod for example :D kahit d tayo nanalo

The worst since ’77: RP 6th in SEAG (http://www.philstar.com/index.php?Headlines&p=49&type=2&sec=24&aid=2007121595)
By Gerry Carpio
Sunday, December 16, 2007


NAKHON RATCHASIMA,Thailand – With only a gold to show after the last events in diving, the Philippines formalized its dive to sixth overall in the biggest debacle by a Philippine contingent in the SEAG since 1977.

Rexel Fabriga and Jaime Asok provided the 41st and last gold for the Philippines as the mixed and men’s doubles teams bowed to Thailand in the finals of the lawn tennis competitions on the last day at the Main Stadium here.

The 41 gold medals were a big turnaround from the 113 the Philippines won in taking the overall championships in Manila as host of the 2005 SEA Games.

It was also the second worst after its fifth place finish in 1989, 1999 and 2001 when Vietnam, now a major power, was a minor participant with a token representation.

Thailand, which predicted 156 gold medals, had 183, the second biggest since Indonesia won 194 as host in the 1997 Jakarta Games.

It was also the second biggest for Thailand as host since the 1995 Chiang Mai Games where it won 91 gold medals.

Malaysia also finished true to its projections of over 60 gold medals, finishing with 67 to finish second overall. It moved past Vietnam with its last wins in diving.

Vietnam, which came here aiming for 60-70 gold medals, also fulfilled its target, landing 64 golds to finish third.

Indonesia, champion in nine of the last 15 SEA Games, had a decent 56 for fourth while Singapore this time took the measure of the Philippines, claiming 43 golds to edge the Philippines in the battle for fifth.

The Philippines came here vowing to win 100 gold medals but failed to reach even one half of it.

The Philippines was shut out in regional sports, which offered 58 gold medals, found some of its pet sports scrapped by organizers, and failed miserably in many sports it was expected to dominate, particularly in events the athletes dominated back in Manila.

The bowling team fired its top masters bowlers a week before the Games and got only one silver in 11 events. Bowling president Steve Hontiveros said coaches and staff will have to turn in their resignation if the team fails to win a gold.

With the absence of world champions Django Bustamante, Efren “Bata” Reyes and Alex Pagulayan, the cue artists here conceded the gold to less talented rivals, and only the men’s team in 9-ball doubles, Ronnie Alcano in 8-ball singles and women’s bet Rubilen Amit in 9-ball singles saved what could have been a disgraceful stint in the sport.

The baseball team fell to Thailand, the mixed doubles team of Kennevic and Kennie Asuncion dropped out of the quarterfinals, while the rowers, who swept their side of the event in Manila, had only two silvers.

The Fil-American pair of Heidi Ilustre and Diane Pascua, so with the tandem of Michelle Laborte and Michelle Carolino, did not reach the semifinals in beach volleyball.

Questionable officiating gave the hosts 16 of the 17 gold medals in boxing, while the hosts ruled sailing, yachting and rowing events with their familiarity with the waters of Pattaya.

In other sports, the opposition was simply overpowering.

In diving, Malaysia took the overall championship with seven gold medals, with the Philippines gaining two and Indonesia one.

The Vietnamese became the new SEA Games champion in wushu, a sport always dominated by the Philippines, thanks to their two-year continuous training in China. The Vietnamese themselves finished second overall to China in the 2005 World Wushu Championships and third overall behind China and Macau this year.

Injuries hit Eduardo Buenavista and the top stars of GTK’s Army in athletics, and in their place, Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam and Malaysia ran the show in athletics. Indonesia, the great champion of nine SEA Games and a power no more, returned to reclaim its lost glory in archery.

Vietnam, Malaysia, Indonesia and Thailand had devised a training program that placed their athletes at world-class level, and relegated the Philippines to consolation silvers and bronzes in karate-do, judo and taekwondo.

Thailand used to the maximum its homecourt advantage. It dominated yachting, sailing and windsurfing, canoeing and rowing in Pattaya and the shooting range outside Bangkok and a golf course virtually unknown to Filipinos.

It increased the gold medal events in these sports and was the biggest beneficiary.

Thailand sent its world-class boxers to fight the Philippines’ Class B fighters and won 16 of 17 gold medals. The boxing association saw it otherwise. They complained about rampant cheating, biased officiating that favored the hosts in the women’s finals and yielded 14 golds in all. The Filipinos won six of the 14 gold medals in Manila in 2005.

Thailand was an Asian power in shooting during the last two decades and, even before the SEA Games could formally start, it won 14 gold medals to jumpstart its title campaign.

Partly, incentives kept the champion’s spirit burning elsewhere outside the Philippines.

Thailand offered 200,000 baht ($5,000) for every gold and every member of the team that wins the gold. Indonesia offers $20,000 for every gold and a house and lot for every three golds.

The Philippines offers P100,000 for every gold and President Arroyo had announced a bonus on top of the mandated incentive for every gold-silver-bronze medal won.

Vietnam had fewer incentives and had little training abroad because of budget constraints. But athletes from this former communist country have a strong sense of discipline which carried them through the tough competitions, unruffled by bad officiating, homecourt advantage and incentives other athletes kept yapping about.

Thailand, which predicted 156 gold medals, had 183, the second biggest since Indonesia won 194 as host in the 1997 Jakarta Games.


Score rigging and biased judging aside, it helps to have homecourt advantage.

Swimming icon named SEAG best male athlete (http://www.philstar.com/index.php?Sports&p=49&type=2&sec=30&aid=20071215147)
By Nelson Beltran
Sunday, December 16, 2007


NAKHON RATCHASIMA – Miguel Molina became the Philippines’ biggest saving grace in a campaign that went in shambles here after the US-trained swimmer was named the Best Male Athlete at the close of the 24th Southeast Asian Games last night.

Organizers awarded Molina 330,000 baht (about P446,000) prize for the feat.

Molina, the 23-year-old swimming scholar at University of California-Berkeley, was the first Filipino athlete to gain SEAG MVP honors since Eric Buhain, now the Games and Amusements Board chairman, won the same award in Manila in 1991. Buhain garnered six gold medals then.

The 5-foot-8, 170-pound Filipino bet emerged as the best of the bests on the strength of his awesome harvest of four gold and one bronze harvest.

Natthanan Junkrajang matched Molina’s four-gold exploits in women’s swimming, and the Thai shared top individual honors with the Filipino, winning the Best Female Athlete honors.

Molina beat Thais Ratchawat Keawpanya (gymnastics), Watcharakorn Suasuebpunm (dance sport), Boonthung Srisung (athletics), Phaithoon Phonbun (billiards), Singaporean Gao Ning (table tennis) and Indonesian (athletics) for the Best Male Athlete award.

Junkrajang prevailed over Singapore’s Tao Li (swimming), Vietnam’s Vu Thi Huong (athletics) and compatriots M.L. Warapa Jumbala (dance sport), Wassana Winatho (athletics), Phuttaraksa (rowing) and Bussayamas Pheangkathok (rowing) in the distaff side.

Molina, however, couldn’t personally accept the award during the ceremonies since he has flown home with the swimming team three days ago.

He sparkled with golden performances in three days in the main stadium pool, reigning supreme in the 200-m and 400-m individual medleys, 200-m breaststroke and 4x100 medley relay.

His training in Japan, China and US has made him a stronger and better swimmer.

Molina won only two golds in Vietnam in 2003 and three golds in 2005 in Manila.

His MVP achievement could hopefully inspire the swimmer to strive harder for a good showing in his second Olympic stint in Beijing next year.

^^ Indeed a "saving grace."

that's not a saving grace. In our words, we call that "pampalubag loob" for the losers.

Honestly, I'm quite disappointed.

^^ same here. we would've done better than 41 golds, thinking we targeted 100. what were they thinking btw?

^^I don't know. I was quite surprised with Malaysia and Singapore's performance this time. Indonesia is quite surprising too albeit in a negative way. But the Philippines' performance was the worst I've ever seen. I don't think we lack athletes since we have sent, I think, the 2nd largest, if not 3rd largest number of athletes in this event. So what happened?

We could have pinpointed cheating, rigging nor biased judging but that was just a part of it. We lost to sports which are supposedly measurable like bowling, shooting, etc.

Aside from cheating, I guess either we have poor preparations because we're too confident or our neighbors really have spent too much for their athletes' training. And I have to salute Vietnam for proving that it is a fast rising superstar despite its financial woes. I think someone here pointed out that Vietnam also has the same budget if not smaller than ours but look at their athletes. We don't need excuses this time. We really have to work hard or we will see ourselves in the trash pit.

The plans of Laos for the 25th SEAG is not helping either. At least they have plans or intentions to build/improve their sporting facilities even if it seems (hopefully I'm wrong) they could not deliver. Compare that to Manila. Perhaps I'm wrong but I think I haven't heard anyone about our plans to upgrade our facilities. And to add insult to injury, the House had slashed the budget of POC. Wow! We really are good in setting our priorities right!? I guess, we could've just passed our chance to host the games two years ago and just spent those rehabilitation expenses for the training of our athletes not only for this year's SEAG but also for next year's Olympics. Singapore did that but they were not embarrassed whatsoever. Now I'm having a feeling that we would not even get our target of one gold in the Olympics.

Well, that's all water under the bridge now, time to look forward to Beijing and capture that elusive Olympic Gold the Philippines has been salivating for since its inclusion in the Olympic Games! :okay:

*SEA countries with gold medals
*Host countries are not included in the ranking

Sea Games 2007 - Thailand
Malaysia 68
Vietnam 64
Indonesia 56
Singapore 43
Philippines 41
Myanmar 14
Laos 5
Cambodia 2
Brunei 1


Asian Indoor 2007 - Macau
Thailand 19
Vietnam 2
Indonesia 2
Singapore 1
Philippines 1


Asian Games 2006 - Doha
Thailand 13
Malaysia 8
Singapore 8
Philippines 4
Vietnam 3
Indonesia 2


Sea Games 2005 - Philippines
Thailand 87
Vietnam 71
Malaysia 61
Indonesia 49
Singapore 42
Myanmar 17


Olympic Games 2004
Thailand 3


Sea Games 2003 - Vietnam
Thailand 90
Indonesia 55
Philippines 48
Malaysia 44
Singapore 30
Myanmar 16


Asian Games 2002
Thailand 14
Malaysia 6
Singapore 5
Indonesia 4
Vietnam 4
Philippines 3
Myanmar 1


Sea Games 2001 - Malaysia
Thailand 103
Indonesia 72
Vietnam 33
Philippines 30
Singapore 22
Myanmar 19


Olympic Games 2000
Indonesia 1
Thailand 1


Sea Games 1999 - Brunei
Thailand 65
Malaysia 57
Indonesia 44
Singapore 23
Philippines 19
Vietnam 17
Myanmar 3

Medal Tally (ONLY Olympic event in SEA Games)

1. THA | 87 | 74 | 57 | 218 |

2. MAS | 36 | 33 | 49 | 118 |

3. INA | 35 | 38 | 42 | 115 |

4. VIE | 35 | 26 | 44 | 105 |

5. SIN | 28 | 22 | 19 | 69 |

6. PHI | 27 | 44| 50 | 121 |

7. MYA | 7 | 15 | 17 | 39 |

8. LAO | 0 | 2 | 11 | 13 |

9. CAM | 0 | 1 | 8 | 9 |

10. BRU | 0 | 0 | 2 | 2 |

10. TLS | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |


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SEE YOU AGAIN IN VIENTIANE, LAOS 2009

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^^NIce! I guess Laos wouldn't be the next overall champion, right? Coz if that happens I would really stop wasting my time for this biennial event, which reminds me about that stupid host in the opening ceremonies who said that SEAG was an annual event. Duh!?

^^ :lol: Lovin' your sacastic wit. :okay:

Well at least may next chances pa naman. Our athletes could always improve naman with the help of the government (and I'm being too optimistic na). On to the Olympics in Beijing!

Concentrate on the Olympics. Perhaps if we will eventually get that elusive GOLD we've been aspiring for so long, we might get a boost sa sporting culture natin at confidence sa athletes.

Anyway, kap kun TAE(Translate niyo sa English)! Hopefully will do better in Laos.

^^ malaking factor talaga yang venues? namaximize natin yung talents sa kanilang homecourts... like football for bacolod for example :D kahit d tayo nanalo


Pinagod sa byahe yung players ng ibang countries. Yung players ng Pinas, nandun na sa venue, nagrerelax.

Fair games happen kapag ang venue wala sa Thailand, Philippines, Malaysia, Vietnam, Indonesia and Singapore.

If Thailand is the antagonist in SEA Games (it was against the expansion of SEAP Games), saviour naman ito ng Asian Games (it served as a back up venue, twice?).

At least we got the second most number of medals at 228, i think that is impressive already, if there was no "biased" judging on some sports we could easily have taken the 3rd or even second spot. Hopefully we will do better in Laos in 2009; even if it share borders with Thailand and Vietnam.

Anyway, Here's an idea from POC chief Cojuangco about making to championships during SEA Games, one for Olympic Sports (i.e.Basketball,Swimming) and one for Traditional SEA Sports (i.e. Muay Thai, Sepak Takraw,Pencak), to help lessen "cheating" .



POC chief Cojuangco has plan to curb cheating at SEA Games
12/06/2007 | 11:00 PM
Having two overall championships would prevent cheating in the Southeast Asian Games, according to a plan revealed on Thursday by Jose "Peping" Cojuangco Jr., president of the Philippine Olympic Committee (POC).

In a statement, Cojuangco said his plan would be to have an overall championship for Olympic and Asian-level events and another for sports indigenous to Southeast Asia.

He said this would curb down the alleged tendency of the host country to amass as many gold medals no matter what it takes.

As it is, whichever is the host country in the 11-nation regional event would be accused of bending rules or even cheating to get as many of the gold medals, on which the ranking of a participating country rests.

The Philippines, which hosted the 23rd SEA Games in 2005, and Thailand, which is hosting the 24th SEA Games this year, are the latest to get such accusations.

"We have to accept the fact the host should have at least a good showing in the Games," he said. "But how far do you go? And how much do you sacrifice?"

Having two championships will also allow a participating country to focus on a particular set of sports and not worry about the other sports just so it could get more medals.

"We can have concentration in training in certain 'elite' sports," Cojuangco said. "Pwedeng gawing mandatory so that we can have better showing in said areas."

Cojuangco did not give an exact time table for putting his proposal in place. But he said he would present it to the Southeast ASian Games Federation Council (SEAGFC).

"I will sit down with some people, Filipinos first, and then we'd draw up proposals for two overall champions," Cojuangco said. "Once we have it in a more concrete form, then maybe we can present it in the next SEA Games Federation Council meeting."

In the meantime, he said: "Dapat we make a deeper study pa and then find a consensus among the POC muna." - GMANews.TV

http://www.gmanews.tv/story/71756/POC-chief-Cojuangco-has-plan-to-curb-cheating-at-SEA-Games

^^what can you say peeps?

No Basketball in Vientiane Games. :nuts:
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/12/15/sports/AS-SPT-SEA-Games.php

^^it might be better that way, we can concentrate on other olympic sports that sometimes gets a backseat because we are too focused on Basketball SEAG Gold .

Fair games happen kapag ang venue wala sa Thailand, Philippines, Malaysia, Vietnam, Indonesia and Singapore.

:lol: Then they should just pemanently rotate the SEA Games amongst Brunei Darussalam, Cambodia, Laos, Myanmar, and Timor Leste. :okay: Or stage the SEA Games in a non-SEA nation. :colgate:

If Thailand is the antagonist in SEA Games (it was against the expansion of SEAP Games), saviour naman ito ng Asian Games (it served as a back up venue, twice?).

Yes, Bangkok was the back-up host to the Asian Games when a couple of nations that were supposed to host it backed out.

Minsan, para makapaghost ng ASEAN Summit yung one ASEAN nation (Laos yata) na never pang nakakapaghost, other members helped at nag-ambag-ambag para lang matikman nung country na yun ang maging host. One country shouldered the construction of the venue, others sa transportation etc. Yung inambag yata ng Philippines nun, ballpen para sa participants and media covering the event.

Sana gawin din yung sa SEA Games (yung Olympic bid ng Pilipinas, if ever Japan yata ang magshoshoulder). Cambodia and Timor-Leste na lang ang di pa naghohost.

Even though Thailand might have cheated, they are still clearly better than us. They've got Olympic gold medals while we haven't.

Even though Thailand might have cheated, they are still clearly better than us. They've got Olympic gold medals while we haven't.

The premise contradicts the conclusion. If Thailand is a cheat, then I will never consider them better than us. In fact, Timor Leste should be considered better than Thailand who has always cheated its way to the podium. Their Olympic gold medals are really questionable especially under then AIBA Sec Gen Chowdry. I would only consider their Olympic gold in women's weightlifting as the real gold.

Congratulations pa rin sa mga Filipino players na nag-excel sa SEA Games. Whichever coutry employed cheating in its way to victory should just be ashamed of doing so. It's not correct to say though that we only bagged a few gold medals compared to the other 5 top performing countries because of lack of funds. Even if there are funds or if the funds are small to support our players, if the opponent is really stronger or played better than our player then we must just accept that. The very essence of the sports events is competition. Some lose, some win.

All of Thai people (including Thai former PM) belive that you also cheated me at 23rd SEA Games in your country.

Yes, If Thailand cheated you when Thailand is a host, When this event competition out of Thailand, the medals ranking of Thailand is not fall over third place, in Asian Gams and Olympic, Thai has high medals ranking of Asia and top of Southeast Asian nations, there is no reason that Thai cheated.

We don't care about SEA Games but Thai people consern about Asian Games or Olympic Games.

I hope you get a gold medal in Olympic Games.

see you in 25th SEA Games, Vientiane 2009.

All of Thai people (including Thai former PM) belive that you also cheated me at 23rd SEA Games in your country.

Yes, If Thailand cheated you when Thailand is a host, When this event competition out of Thailand, the medals ranking of Thailand is not fall over third place, in Asian Gams and Olympic, Thai has high medals ranking of Asia and top of Southeast Asian nations, there is no reason that Thai cheated.

We don't care about SEA Games but Thai people consern about Asian Games or Olympic Games.

I hope you get a gold medal in Olympic Games.

see you in 25th SEA Games, Vientiane 2009.

who you :D don't worry we are not all sourgraping., but i predicted that the Phils. will end up in 4th or 5th position well i missed by one LOL , bec we lacked in funds and most of our "world class" boxers (men) never competed in Thailand :cheers:


btw our Pres. never said you cheated ,she's one hell of a sportswoman , still standing tall today (figurativley..LOL) ;)

I have and will never say/said that this SEA Games in Korat is completely clean. So was the last SEA Games in Cebu!
For me, it's like I am watching the same old movie with 2 main charactors swapping their roles.

2 years ago, when the Philippines was accused of cheating by others (of course not only by Thailand), all you guys said was "SORE LOSER", "SOUR-GRAPING", "HOMECOURT ADVANTAGE" .....blah blah.... (Don't be surprised if these words come back to you this time.) ..........Yes we did hold our grudge but we can prove ourselves later in other sport events held in other countries.

2008 Olympics and 2009 SEAG are waiting for you to prove. :)


PS. just leave Thaksin alone. He's not worth mentioning.

who you :D don't worry we are not all sourgraping., but i predicted that the Phils. will end up in 4th or 5th position well i missed by one LOL , bec we lacked in funds and most of our "world class" boxer's (men) never competed in Thailand :cheers:


btw our Pres. never said you cheated ,she's one hell of a sportswoman , still standing tall today (figurativley..LOL) ;)

not like others :|

I have and will never say/said that this SEA Games in Korat is completely clean. So was the last SEA Games in Cebu!
For me, it's like I am watching the same old movie with 2 main charactors swapping their roles.

2 years ago, when the Philippines was accused of cheating by others (of course not only by Thailand), all you guys said was "SORE LOSER", "SOUR-GRAPING", "HOMECOURT ADVANTAGE" .....blah blah.... (Don't be surprised if these words come back to you this time.) ..........Yes we did hold our grudge but we can prove ourselves later in other sport events held in other countries.

2008 Olympics and 2009 SEAG are waiting for you to prove. :)


PS. just leave Thaksin alone. He's not worth mentioning.

Did i mentioned Thaksil? :D anyway some are good in amateurrs and others are superb in professional sports ;)

"para sa iyo ang Laban na ito" by Manny Pacquiao

^^

No you didn't mention Thaksin but others are smart enough to know what you implied. :)
And he's a corrupt politician. Isn't it good we can get him out?

Minsan, para makapaghost ng ASEAN Summit yung one ASEAN nation (Laos yata) na never pang nakakapaghost, other members helped at nag-ambag-ambag para lang matikman nung country na yun ang maging host. One country shouldered the construction of the venue, others sa transportation etc. Yung inambag yata ng Philippines nun, ballpen para sa participants and media covering the event.

Sana gawin din yung sa SEA Games (yung Olympic bid ng Pilipinas, if ever Japan yata ang magshoshoulder). Cambodia and Timor-Leste na lang ang di pa naghohost.

Really? Nangangarap ang Philippines na maghost ng olympic? Wow! Kelan?

^^

No you didn't mention Thaksin but others are smart enough to know what you implied. :)
And he's a corrupt politician. Isn't it good we can get him out?

All of Thai people (including Thai former PM) belive that you also cheated me at 23rd SEA Games in your country.

Yes, If Thailand cheated you when Thailand is a host, When this event competition out of Thailand, the medals ranking of Thailand is not fall over third place, in Asian Gams and Olympic, Thai has high medals ranking of Asia and top of Southeast Asian nations, there is no reason that Thai cheated.

We don't care about SEA Games but Thai people consern about Asian Games or Olympic Games.

I hope you get a gold medal in Olympic Games.

see you in 25th SEA Games, Vientiane 2009.


;)

Things will change for the better if we opt too. Even though we lack facilities for sports development, it's still the will and the fighting spirit of our athletes which count most. Who knows? Looks like we'll be having the last laugh after all.

They don't care about the SEA Games daw! Really now!

;)

His opinion is his. Mine is mine.
We (uno and me) are not the same person. Don't mix up.

:)

Things will change for the better if we opt too. Even though we lack facilities for sports development, it's still the will and the fighting spirit of our athletes which count most. Who knows? Looks like we'll be having the last laugh after all.

They don't care about the SEA Games daw! Really now!

Yeah, things will be better. And even though we did not do very well in this edition of the SEA games, somehow I don't feel very bad. There are so many other things Pinoys are good in. Like I heard about this young singer named Charice Pempengco who will soon guest at Ellen's show because of her magnificent voice, galing.

And siya nga pala, they don't care nga daw. Naku lumeleveling din ano?!
Dapat tayong magsabing we don't care ne!

His opinion is his. Mine is mine.
We (uno and me) are not the same person. Don't mix up.

:)

you said " your so smart to know what i implied" , then it's my opinion of him and i have the right to answer his accusations!

btw you mentioned we are sourgrapers blah blah etc. , so Thais are not sourgrapers? This thread is about Filipino sports where we can pour our frustrations, our heartbreaks not yours ok?

from your words :
"Yes we did hold our grudge but we can prove ourselves later in other sport events held in other countries."

so make you own grudge, sougraper or even bashing whatever thread in you own forum !

Yeah, things will be better. And even though we did not do very well in this edition of the SEA games, somehow I don't feel very bad. There are so many other things Pinoys are good in. Like I heard about this young singer named Charice Pempengco who will soon guest at Ellen's show because of her magnificent voice, galing.

And siya nga pala, they don't care nga daw. Naku lumeleveling din ano?!
Dapat tayong magsabing we don't care ne!

Sa bagay, libre rin naman mangarap eh no? Kaso lang, 'wag naman sana masyadong ambisyoso. Tandaan nila, 'di pa nila nararating ang katayuan ng China o ng Estados Unidos 'pag dating sa palakasan. Buti pa tayo. We're just being realistic.

Pinagkagastusan ng Thailand ang Games ! Unlike tayo! Kaya next time dapat lutong makaw ang botohan sa mga Miss Photogenic , Miss World pati Asian idol !

^^ LOL lutong macao rin naman yung boxing nila prof. or amateur

bakit yung Ms. Earth na tayo ang gumawa hindi natin maluto :D

^^ LOL lutong macao rin naman yung boxing nila prof. or amateur

bakit yung Ms. Earth na tayo ang gumawa hindi natin maluto :D


:ohno:Yung Asian idol -taga Sinagpore balita ko second choice ng mga Taga-Indonesian ang Singaporean . The Philippines os lading in the sms tally tapos biglang Singapore ang nanalo? Ayaw ng ibang Asians ang Pinay na si Mau Marcelo ! Kaya next time matutong bumoto ang mga Pinoy !

Well, Weather -weather lang iyan! Kelan ulit susunod na host ang Pilipinas sa SEA Games? Dapat milya-milya ang pondo at bayaran lahat ng mga judges para on-favor sa Philippines and decision ! Parang Miss World na China !

:ohno:Yung Asian idol -taga Sinagpore balita ko second choice ng mga Taga-Indonesian ang Singaporean . The Philippines os lading in the sms tally tapos biglang Singapore ang nanalo? Ayaw ng ibang Asians ang Pinay na si Mau Marcelo ! Kaya next time matutong bumoto ang mga Pinoy !

Well, Weather -weather lang iyan! Kelan ulit susunod na host ang Pilipinas sa SEA Games? Dapat milya-milya ang pondo at bayaran lahat ng mga judges para on-favor sa Philippines and decision ! Parang Miss World na China !

naku text capital pa naman tayo , natalo ! baka naluto singaporean style :nuts:

naku text capital pa naman tayo , natalo ! baka naluto singaporean style :nuts:

Hindi naman luto ang Asian Idol , Second Choice ang Singaporean guwapo daw? ng mga taga-Indonesia

As for SEA Games wait for our turn na lang! Lutong Pinoy ang dapat mangyari tapos yung stadium dapat malaki !

:):):)

All of Thai people (including Thai former PM) belive that you also cheated me at 23rd SEA Games in your country.

It's ok. All Overseas Filipino Workers in Portland that I know, also believe we cheated in the 23rd SEA Games. :lol: I personally don't believe we cheated, but I don't work yet. :D I'm not sure about all of them though, let's see what @tsinoy's got to say.

I'm just gonna go and repeat myself 'cause I think it's fun.
Now the Filipinos know how everyone else felt two years ago.


And for sure we're gonna get some gold medals, just not all of them. There's a really good chance we got the men's basketball gold medal.

Let SEA Games be a unifying force
Cheating and paranoia continue to mar what could be an ideal means of promoting regional fellowship (http://nationmultimedia.com/2007/12/17/opinion/opinion_30059282.php)

The curtain has been drawn on this year's SEA Games in Nakhon Ratchasima in a typical manner: the host country is full of pride after dominating the medals table and the media in neighbouring countries are left bemoaning "cheating" or unfair tactics. The bitterness of visiting athletes may have been assuaged somewhat by a grand closing ceremony and everyone was left looking forward to meeting again, but that doesn't mean Southeast Asian countries are anywhere nearer a cure for the ingrained malaise when it comes to regional sports competitions, specifically the lack of trust and the over-emphasis on the medal count. Male boxers from the Philippines boycotted the final rounds of this year's SEA Games, saying they were doing so to protest against unfair decisions involving their female boxers. This leaves a bad taste in the mouth, not least because of the fact that the previous SEA Games in Manila were marred by what were probably even greater allegations of cheating. In fact, similar incidents and allegations have spoiled virtually every SEA Games.

It has become a nasty, inescapable circle. Visiting countries are cheated, or feel they have been cheated; then when it's their turn to host they exact revenge, or are accused of cheating. The host country is focused not on being a good host, but rather on ensuring that it takes the top spot in the medal count, otherwise it is considered a total failure and a big source of shame.

The Manila SEA Games triggered a minor diplomatic row. Then prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra lashed out fiercely in support of Thai athletes, who he said had been taken advantage of in the Games. His outburst drew a strong response from Manila, with a few media outlets mocking what they deemed his sour-grapes attitude.

It always seems that whenever the SEA Games take place, the otherwise warm neighbourly relations among member countries are put to the test. Every host tends to be labelled "the dirtiest ever", and the next one will be seen as even dirtier. As long as the misguided tendency to make up for every loss is not corrected, or as long as nobody takes the initiative to say, "Enough is enough. We will not cheat, whether the others follow suit or not", the next SEA Games will be another sad case of deja vu.

The worst thing is that the problem is not limited to governments or Games officials. Sport fans in this region have become a mass of hypocrites, whose blind loyalties and prejudices are fanned by the media in their respective countries. Every SEA Games will start with hype about the need of whichever country is hosting it to be the overall champion. Then we put every decision that favours the home country under a microscope, but when we host the event, all controversial decisions are waved off as trivial. A Thai newspaper headline about the Philippine boxing boycott is a classic SEA Games headline: "Pin Puan" (Filipinos stirring things up) A columnist in another Thai newspaper hailed every gold Thai medal as "unquestionably clean".

This mentality is common in sports, but is way too prevalent for comfort where the SEA Games is concerned. It has spawned mistrust, soured friendships and overshadowed the genuine achievements of some truly great regional sportsmen.

The saddest thing is that this trend feeds on itself and come the next Games, the new host will find extra motivation to place first in the medal count, or at least overtake its nearest rival - at any cost. Visiting athletes, on the other hand, will be paranoid if they assume that they will not only face competition, but also fall prey to unfair tactics of the host nation.

Can ASEAN break away from this vicious sporting cycle? What does it take to foster constructive competition among neighbours who are so friendly in most other ways? Why is it easier to build trust when it comes to complex tariff issues than when, say, Thailand as a host introduces a new type of sepak takraw ball at its SEA Games? Why is it that every introduction of a new sport is automatically deemed a cheap trick on the part of the host country to win more medals?

ASEAN has been celebrating its relations, its Charter and so forth. Perhaps it's time to look at something closer to its people. Maybe it's time ASEAN officials sit down together and find a way to make the SEA Games what it's supposed to be - a venue for sportsmanship, trust and unity.

It's ok. All Overseas Filipino Workers in Portland that I know, also believe we cheated in the 23rd SEA Games. :lol: I personally don't believe we cheated, but I don't work yet. :D I'm not sure about all of them though, let's see what @tsinoy's got to say.

I'm just gonna go and repeat myself 'cause I think it's fun.



And for sure we're gonna get some gold medals, just not all of them. There's a really good chance we got the men's basketball gold medal.


Say about what? About Pinoy cheating or about you not working yet? :lol:

Kung titirahin ko lahat ng post mo, baka maiyak ka,,, buwahaha! wala naman Pinoy dito sa Portland na interesado about sa ASEAN games. Punta ka sa Coach's Bar in Cedar Hills, nanduon ang mga Pinoy tumataya sa karera at na nunood ng football games.

^^ Really? There were a lot of people talking about it 2 years ago at the restaurant in Portland when I brought it up. :lol: "Nandadaya ang mga iyan" ang sinabi nila sakin. Even my dad said it, the guy who goes silent everytime I play a kapampangan song in the car.

Just tell me, do you believe we deserved all the gold medals of the 23rd Southeast Asian Games?

^^ Really? There were a lot of people talking about it 2 years ago at the restaurant in Portland when I brought it up. :lol: "Nanadadaya ang mga iyan" ang sinabi nila sakin. Even my dad said it, the guy who goes silent everytime I play a kapampangan song on the car.

Nabasa lang nila sa Asian reporter or sa Philippine news yun! :lol:, Teka, saang restaurant? sa Tambayan?


I believe we won those Medals, but deserving them, I don't, because the players deserve their awards.

Really? Nangangarap ang Philippines na maghost ng olympic? Wow! Kelan?

Click here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Summer_Olympics) and it's up to you to believe it or not. :colgate:

^^ we have a good shot, IF, there is that big IF, ( _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _.....)














IFall Filipinos are billionaires... :lol:

^^ Now would that be in pesos or dollars? ;)

^^ Pee$o$ :lol:





Really, we can only dream of those huge sports complex... wide arena and big parking lots to accomodate patrons of the Olympics.

The last time I watch a PBA game, may poste sa harap ng silya ko --- buwahaha!

Click here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Summer_Olympics) and it's up to you to believe it or not. :colgate:

There's no source. Probably the guy who saw that when it was up there a few months ago put it back. The Asian Games bid is true though.

The total medal count for all Asian Games from 1951 to 2006

More than 50 gold medals

Rank Nation G S B Total
1 China 1,005 700 511 2,216
2 Japan 862 829 740 2,431
3 South Korea 540 464 583 1,587
4 Iran 118 128 133 379
5 India 112 154 209 475
6 Thailand 98 139 174 411
7 Kazakhstan 92 95 129 316
8 North Korea 81 106 132 319
9 Philippines 60 105 186 351
10 Indonesia 52 81 169 302

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_Games_medal_count

Philippines should consider joining East Asian Games. :nuts:

^^ We might come in deadlast behind powerhouses China, Japan, and South Korea. At least with the SEA Games, we are at par with the other nations in the region (regardless of the cheating accusations). :colgate:

The total medal count for all Asian Games from 1951 to 2006

More than 50 gold medals

Rank Nation G S B Total
1 China 1,005 700 511 2,216
2 Japan 862 829 740 2,431
3 South Korea 540 464 583 1,587
4 Iran 118 128 133 379
5 India 112 154 209 475
6 Thailand 98 139 174 411
7 Kazakhstan 92 95 129 316
8 North Korea 81 106 132 319
9 Philippines 60 105 186 351
10 Indonesia 52 81 169 302

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_Games_medal_count

Philippines should consider joining East Asian Games. :nuts:

:nuts: Last tayo !

^^ Philippines ranks 9th over-all.

OCA supervised the games since 1986.

1986 Seoul Games
4 gold 5 silver 9 bronze = 18 medals

1990 Beijing Games
1 2 7 = 10

1994 Hiroshima Games
3 2 8 = 13

1998 Bangkok Games
1 5 12 = 18

2002 Busan Games
3 7 16 = 26

2006 Doha Games
4 6 9 = 19

Over-all (1986-2006, supervised by Olympic Council of Asia)
16 gold 27 silver 61 bronze = 104 medals

Over-all (1951-1982, supervised by Asian Games Federation)
14 gold 78 silver 125 bronze = 247 medals

All of Thai people (including Thai former PM) belive that you also cheated me at 23rd SEA Games in your country.

Yes, If Thailand cheated you when Thailand is a host, When this event competition out of Thailand, the medals ranking of Thailand is not fall over third place, in Asian Gams and Olympic, Thai has high medals ranking of Asia and top of Southeast Asian nations, there is no reason that Thai cheated.

We don't care about SEA Games but Thai people consern about Asian Games or Olympic Games.

I hope you get a gold medal in Olympic Games.

see you in 25th SEA Games, Vientiane 2009.

^^ That is to be expected but you know what? The difference now is that not only Filipinos but all of the world know that Thailand cheats its way in boxing competitions whether its amateur or professional. When Thailand last hosted the World Amateur Boxing Championship, Thailand "won" 4-5 world titles. All countries wanted to walk out. Thailand is just really pushing the envelope of cheating.

By the way, you referred to your former Thai PM.... hmmm.. last I checked, he was booted out for graft and corruption... the highest political form of a CHEATER.

^^ That is to be expected but you know what? The difference now is that not only Filipinos but all of the world know that Thailand cheats its way in boxing competitions whether its amateur or professional. When Thailand last hosted the World Amateur Boxing Championship, Thailand "won" 4-5 world titles. All countries wanted to walk out. Thailand is just really pushing the envelope of cheating.

By the way, you referred to your former Thai PM.... hmmm.. last I checked, he was booted out for graft and corruption... the highest political form of a CHEATER.

OMG :eek: Thai people have power to control Europe, America in that completition... (This first time I know that)

In my opinion, all government in Thailand not clean. (I think the other government in SEA like Thai government too)

:ohno:Yung Asian idol -taga Sinagpore balita ko second choice ng mga Taga-Indonesian ang Singaporean . The Philippines os lading in the sms tally tapos biglang Singapore ang nanalo? Ayaw ng ibang Asians ang Pinay na si Mau Marcelo ! Kaya next time matutong bumoto ang mga Pinoy !

Well, Weather -weather lang iyan! Kelan ulit susunod na host ang Pilipinas sa SEA Games? Dapat milya-milya ang pondo at bayaran lahat ng mga judges para on-favor sa Philippines and decision ! Parang Miss World na China !

Hady Mirza won the crucial second-choice text votes, including my votes.:lol: But I'm still proud of Mau, she's a great contender for the title.

as to total number of medals, we are second with 228. we're just unfortunate, most of our final match were against thai esp boxing.

^^ We might come in deadlast behind powerhouses China, Japan, and South Korea. At least with the SEA Games, we are at par with the other nations in the region (regardless of the cheating accusations). :colgate:

...I bet my Ass, we will have a Gold medal in Boxing in this Coming Beijing Olympics....:banana:

as to total number of medals, we are second with 228. we're just unfortunate, most of our final match were against thai esp boxing.I just realized that we actually did a stupid thing in supporting those boxers in their walkout. I thought we sent the BEST boxers to Thailand. But I read that we actually sent the team b which is of course no match to the best of Thailand. Even our best boxers are having a hard time beating all of them then what, we send our spare tires?! Come on, what could be more stupid than that?

...I bet my Ass, we will have a Gold medal in Boxing in this Coming Beijing Olympics....:banana:Oh yeah, the bowling coaches also bet their positions for that. And guess what, they've just lost it.

I just realized that we actually did a stupid thing in supporting those boxers in their walkout. I thought we sent the BEST boxers to Thailand. But I read that we actually sent the team b which is of course no match to the best of Thailand. Even our best boxers are having a hard time beating all of them then what, we send our spare tires?! Come on, what could be more stupid than that?

Oh yeah, the bowling coaches also bet their positions for that. And guess what, they've just lost it.

^^What you missed out is that we sent our best Women boxers. The women's final matches were held a day before the men's finals. We have far better women boxers than Thailand as evidenced by their world rankings with Michelle Martinez, the reigning Asian Champion and World silver medalist, as our top bet. All other women boxers are world and asian championship medalists. Thailand does not have that caliber in women's boxing and yet they swept all but one of the women's bouts, the lone loss because of a knockout. So if they can do that in the women's finals, then what is there to expect? So what's so stupid about that? Get all information first.

^^well, it is stupid to protest when there is nothing happening yet in the Men's boxing event. You're judging even before a sin is yet to be committed. We only looked stupid in the eyes of the international sporting community. I don't want to have a debate on this further. If that's your view, fine. But one thing's for sure, we lost in the games after clinching the overall title two years ago. I bet no country has ever nosed-dived that hard in the whole history of the games. And even if we get those gold medals in boxing, I don't think we would go past Malaysia nor Vietnam. Only shows how our skills in these sports have declined.

^^well, it is stupid to protest when there is nothing happening yet in the Men's boxing event. You're judging even before a sin is yet to be committed. We only looked stupid in the eyes of the international sporting community. I don't want to have a debate on this further. If that's your view, fine. But one thing's for sure, we lost in the games after clinching the overall title two years ago. I bet no country has ever nosed-dived that hard in the whole history of the games. And even if we get those gold medals in boxing, I don't think we would go past Malaysia nor Vietnam. Only shows how our skills in these sports have declined.

Judging before a sin is committed? Please read the post before and as I was saying, our female boxers have already been cheated and this was even supported by Vietnamese officials. And again, for your information, despite the rampant bias in the female matches, RP officials fielded the 2 male boxers in the finals and when they saw that there's still no improvement in the judging, RP defaulted on several other bouts. In fact, Larry Semillano fought his whole match. So there were already matches fought before the defaults. So please get all your information straight before making a comment. There are a lot like you who make comments without knowing all the facts. Shame on you.

Judging before a sin is committed? Please read the post before and as I was saying, our female boxers have already been cheated and this was even supported by Vietnamese officials. And again, for your information, despite the rampant bias in the female matches, RP officials fielded the 2 male boxers in the finals and when they saw that there's still no improvement in the judging, RP defaulted on several other bouts. In fact, Larry Semillano fought his whole match. So there were already matches fought before the defaults. So please get all your information straight before making a comment. There are a lot like you who make comments without knowing all the facts. Shame on you.I was talking about the male boxers who forfeited their medals either by throwing up their hands as soon as the opening bell rang or quiting the after several rounds and not the female boxers. I would have understood it if the females did that due to their perception that they were cheated. And besides, we could've just filed an official protest. And they should've continued fighting despite what happened. In the end, what have we gained from that?

Oh yeah, shame on me. And shame on us for doing poorly then make excuses that we were cheated. Perhaps we were cheated but how could you explain the other sports where we did poorly? Either way, what has happened has already happened. Let's just focus on the Olympics.

say that if we won all the walked out final boxing matches how many gold medals will be added to the tally? Would we be able to surpass Singapore and Indonesia?

How many medals were allocated for Sepak Takraw, Muay Thai and others, host's home grown sports?

say that if we won all the walked out final boxing matches how many gold medals will be added to the tally? Would we be able to surpass Singapore and Indonesia?Yes. One gold medal ahead of Indonesia in the 4th place.

How many medals were allocated for Sepak Takraw, Muay Thai and others, host's home grown sports?Sepak Takraw is not only popular in Thailand. It is also popular in Malaysia, Indonesia, Cambodia, Malaysia, Laos and the Philippines. Thailand won all the gold in Muay Thai (7) and Sepak Takraw (4).

Dear SSC Members;

Perhaps this Forum will serve as a venue for us Filipinos to ask our Congress and Senate House for a Petition ofr A New Modern Sports Complex with Olympic Class Stadium and other Modern Sports Facilities. So, Start your
comments/Posts Now...:banana:

Timor Leste wouldn't have won medals if Arnis was not played in 2005. It became a SEA Games event again since 1991. Then host then was the Philippines.

When will this start?


I hope they'll build also a football stadium.

I just did a measurement of the field in front of the Quirino Grandstand and the Los Angeles Memorial Colosseum. It seems you can fit the entire LA Memorial Colosseum inside that field next to the Grandstand. Looks like that's all the land you need for a football size stadium. However, that doesn't include the land needed for parking.

each time i hear the word 'stadium' ghost fighter ang pumapasok sa isip ko :lol:

Sepak Takraw: Every nation in southeast asia sent athletes to joy that completition (Malaysia and Myanmar withdraw before completition start).

Muay Thai: 6 Nations in southeast asia sent athlete to joy (Indonesia, Laos, Myanmar, Philippines, Singapore, Thailand) and in my opinion, people in southeast asian (or world) know about Muay Thai more than Arnis (in 23rd SEA Games)

i concur with uno. During my schooling years in Malaysia we have this club "Kelab Tomoi" which is Muay Thai club. Muay Thai is very popular in northern part of Malaysia and even have a national championship. Arnis? I thought it's some kinda racket game. Pardon my ignorance.

i dont really sure but my theory is Filipino chef de mission maybe just want to avoid attention because the target is 100 gold we dont even close to that amount. Say that if we won all medals in disputed boxing will be in the 4th place, it's still far from 100 gold medals target. The question is why target 100 gold medals where actually we cant even dream 60 of it? The failure to get close to 100 should have been made the issue not accusing host Thailand of cheating and biased judging because we did that in 2005 too!! They say what goes around comes around...

we won 5 silver medals and 5 bronze medals in Muay Thai.
we even won 5 bronze medals in Sepak Takraw, this is because of the absence of powerhouse malaysia who protested on use of a rubber-coated balls rather than the traditional rattan ball for the tournament by the host thailand.

I still think we did very well, second overall in terms of most medals won by any country in this SEA games, Thailand with 409, RP with 228,Malaysia 216. We just did not get enough Gold medals this time, especially on the objective sports (i.e. boxing,dancesport,diving,wushu,etc),sports where judges can determine the final result.

i concur with uno. During my schooling years in Malaysia we have this club "Kelab Tomoi" which is Muay Thai club. Muay Thai is very popular in northern part of Malaysia and even have a national championship. Arnis? I thought it's some kinda racket game. Pardon my ignorance.

For your information:

http://www.wmarnis.com/

RP turns to Cuba for help in ’08 Olympics (http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2007/dec/28/yehey/top_stories/20071228top2.html)

By Francis Earl A. Cueto Reporter

WITH eyes set on the 2008 Beijing Olympics and after giving a sixth-place finish in the recently concluded 24th Southeast Asian Games, the Philippines is looking to Cuba for help.

The government is looking at Cuba to bring back the coach that guided a Filipino boxer to a silver medal in the Olympics hosted in Atlanta in 1996.

This was revealed by Cuban Ambassador to Manila Jorge Rey Jimenez in an exclusive interview with The Manila Times on Thursday. He added that Philippine Sports Commission Chairman William “Butch” Ramirez has informed him that he was asked by President Gloria Arroyo to get a Cuban coach for the Philippine boxing team.

Jimenez said Ramirez will try to lure Raul Liranza anew. He was the Cuban coach who guided Olympic silver medalist Mansueto Velasco.

“We are good in boxing,” the envoy said, adding that Cuba’s free educational system allows talent to be spotted.

Jimenez revealed that Cuba has no professional coaches, one of the reasons why some athletes and coaches are being pirated.

Reports quoted Ramirez as saying that President Arroyo is bent on winning the Philippines’ first ever Olympic gold in Beijing.

Of all the Filipino athletes, the boxers have the best chance to win the country’s first gold in the Olympics.

Ramirez has been included in a core group that will oversee preparations for the 2008 Beijing Games. Other members of the group are Philippine Olympic Committee President Jose “Peping” Cojuangco and Rep. Monico Puentevella of Bacolod.

Ramirez said they have set aside a P30-million war chest for the Beijing games. The private sector is also expected to support the Olympic campaign financially, with telecommunications magnate Manny Pangilinan as chief backer.

Ramirez also announced that Filipino athletes are set to go abroad for extensive training and see action in qualifying rounds.

Veteran Harry Tañamor is the first boxer to qualify for the Beijing games. The country hopes to gain more slots as the Amateur Boxing Association is set to send fighters to another qualifying set in Thailand on January 27.

Besides Tañamor, tae kwon do’s Tshomlee Go and Mary Antoinette Rivero, swimming’s Miguel Molina, JB Walsh, Daniel Coakley and Ryan Arabejo and archery’s Mark Javier have also qualified for the Olympics.

Sepak Takraw: Every nation in southeast asia sent athletes to joy that completition (Malaysia and Myanmar withdraw before completition start).

Muay Thai: 6 Nations in southeast asia sent athlete to joy (Indonesia, Laos, Myanmar, Philippines, Singapore, Thailand) and in my opinion, people in southeast asian (or world) know about Muay Thai more than Arnis (in 23rd SEA Games)Excuse me, Arnis is also known martial arts around the world. I've seen this featured in NatGeo and Discovery Channel along with other known martial arts like Taekwondo etc. It is more famously known as Kali or use of Kali sticks..

i concur with uno. During my schooling years in Malaysia we have this club "Kelab Tomoi" which is Muay Thai club. Muay Thai is very popular in northern part of Malaysia and even have a national championship. Arnis? I thought it's some kinda racket game. Pardon my ignorance.Well, you're really ignorant.

i dont really sure but my theory is Filipino chef de mission maybe just want to avoid attention because the target is 100 gold we dont even close to that amount. Say that if we won all medals in disputed boxing will be in the 4th place, it's still far from 100 gold medals target. The question is why target 100 gold medals where actually we cant even dream 60 of it? The failure to get close to 100 should have been made the issue not accusing host Thailand of cheating and biased judging because we did that in 2005 too!! They say what goes around comes around...No, the target was 70, according to wiki. But I agree, even if we got all those gold in boxing, we still won't hit our target.

we won 5 silver medals and 5 bronze medals in Muay Thai.
we even won 5 bronze medals in Sepak Takraw, this is because of the absence of powerhouse malaysia who protested on use of a rubber-coated balls rather than the traditional rattan ball for the tournament by the host thailand.

I still think we did very well, second overall in terms of most medals won by any country in this SEA games, Thailand with 409, RP with 228,Malaysia 216. We just did not get enough Gold medals this time, especially on the objective sports (i.e. boxing,dancesport,diving,wushu,etc),sports where judges can determine the final result.I find that rubber ball issue funny though. Why the sudden change in materials, right? What did Thailand say?

I'm not happy though even if we're second in the number of medals because it only means that we could've done better but our neighbors prepared harder than us. Perhaps we became too confident or we didn't prepare for the lack of funds.

RP turns to Cuba for help in ’08 Olympics (http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2007/dec/28/yehey/top_stories/20071228top2.html)

By Francis Earl A. Cueto Reporter

WITH eyes set on the 2008 Beijing Olympics and after giving a sixth-place finish in the recently concluded 24th Southeast Asian Games, the Philippines is looking to Cuba for help.

The government is looking at Cuba to bring back the coach that guided a Filipino boxer to a silver medal in the Olympics hosted in Atlanta in 1996.

This was revealed by Cuban Ambassador to Manila Jorge Rey Jimenez in an exclusive interview with The Manila Times on Thursday. He added that Philippine Sports Commission Chairman William “Butch” Ramirez has informed him that he was asked by President Gloria Arroyo to get a Cuban coach for the Philippine boxing team.

Jimenez said Ramirez will try to lure Raul Liranza anew. He was the Cuban coach who guided Olympic silver medalist Mansueto Velasco.

“We are good in boxing,” the envoy said, adding that Cuba’s free educational system allows talent to be spotted.

Jimenez revealed that Cuba has no professional coaches, one of the reasons why some athletes and coaches are being pirated.

Reports quoted Ramirez as saying that President Arroyo is bent on winning the Philippines’ first ever Olympic gold in Beijing.

Of all the Filipino athletes, the boxers have the best chance to win the country’s first gold in the Olympics.

Ramirez has been included in a core group that will oversee preparations for the 2008 Beijing Games. Other members of the group are Philippine Olympic Committee President Jose “Peping” Cojuangco and Rep. Monico Puentevella of Bacolod.

Ramirez said they have set aside a P30-million war chest for the Beijing games. The private sector is also expected to support the Olympic campaign financially, with telecommunications magnate Manny Pangilinan as chief backer.

Ramirez also announced that Filipino athletes are set to go abroad for extensive training and see action in qualifying rounds.

Veteran Harry Tañamor is the first boxer to qualify for the Beijing games. The country hopes to gain more slots as the Amateur Boxing Association is set to send fighters to another qualifying set in Thailand on January 27.

Besides Tañamor, tae kwon do’s Tshomlee Go and Mary Antoinette Rivero, swimming’s Miguel Molina, JB Walsh, Daniel Coakley and Ryan Arabejo and archery’s Mark Javier have also qualified for the Olympics.At last. It still puzzles me though why small and poor Cuba and North Korea could get gold medals in the Olympics but the Philippines could not.

^^ Have you seen how they treat their athletes? It's the either the gold medal or bad things are going to happen to you and/or your family. If that looms over your head all the time, you'll make sure you get it by any means available (some even resort to not-so-good means).

^^I see. I was just curious since they are pretty small and poor compared to us but they still managed to get some gold. Oh well...

For your information:

http://www.wmarnis.com/
arnis was featured on NGC's fight science

each time i hear the word 'stadium' ghost fighter ang pumapasok sa isip ko :lol:

ha ha ha ako rin. Mabuti pa sila madaming stadium at kahit ilan beses matamaan ng Ray Gun ang mga tao wala silang reklamo.

I believe we can host the SUMMER OLYMPICS ..... if....

Imelda Marcos is the president...........ha hahaha :lol:

no objections please!.......Imelda would always say..."we could do that in the Philippines too!"

o, seee!

Its long overdue for a world class stadium plus sports complex to be built in the Philippines

Bacolod City has 2 Sports Complexes

PAGLAUM SPORTS COMPLEX - built in 1976 to host the 1977 1nd 1979 Palarong Pambansa,has a swimming pool and grandstand, boxing stadium, softball/baseball field;hosted the 1994 Asian Football Invitational Cup together with Iloilo City and the 2005 SEA Games

PANAAD SPORTS COMPLEX - built in 1997 to host the 1998 Palarong Pambansa (also the 1999 and 2000 Phil Natl Youth Games and the 2000 Palarong Pambansa, 2005 SEA Games)holds an aquatic center (hosted the Sanya Sammaki and ASPAC Water Polo Invitiational Cup), baseball field, tennis courts, a Disaster/Safety Academy, a provincial theme park

Large football fields of colleges and universities in Negros (including a stadium in La Salle) surely are "long-time-ignored" symbols that the Philippines should start focusing on Football/Soccer

Hudyat Putbol! Bacolod City is the Football City

Iloilo-Negros Occidental Football Country (Barotac, Sta Barbara, La Paz (Iloilo City), Bacolod, Talisay, Silay, Victorias, San Carlos)

^^ The thing is that hopefully the Philippine government will give additional budget to Sports too.

Excuse me, Arnis is also known martial arts around the world. I've seen this featured in NatGeo and Discovery Channel along with other known martial arts like Taekwondo etc. It is more famously known as Kali or use of Kali sticks..

However, Muay Thai one of sport in Asian Indoor Games (All time) and in SEA Games (Form 23rd SEA Games).

^^However, there have only been 2 Asian Indoor Games held since '05 and Thailand probably introduced the sport since they were the first hosts. Sooner or later Arnis de Mano, Eskrima, Kali and other FMA's may hopefully become official sporting events in competitions. They only need promotion.

^^ thats right...our athletes are very competitive...if given the right budget and training, these people can bring home the GOLD. :)

RP turns to Cuba for help in ’08 Olympics (http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2007/dec/28/yehey/top_stories/20071228top2.html)

By Francis Earl A. Cueto Reporter

WITH eyes set on the 2008 Beijing Olympics and after giving a sixth-place finish in the recently concluded 24th Southeast Asian Games, the Philippines is looking to Cuba for help.

The government is looking at Cuba to bring back the coach that guided a Filipino boxer to a silver medal in the Olympics hosted in Atlanta in 1996.

This was revealed by Cuban Ambassador to Manila Jorge Rey Jimenez in an exclusive interview with The Manila Times on Thursday. He added that Philippine Sports Commission Chairman William “Butch” Ramirez has informed him that he was asked by President Gloria Arroyo to get a Cuban coach for the Philippine boxing team.

Jimenez said Ramirez will try to lure Raul Liranza anew. He was the Cuban coach who guided Olympic silver medalist Mansueto Velasco.

“We are good in boxing,” the envoy said, adding that Cuba’s free educational system allows talent to be spotted.

Jimenez revealed that Cuba has no professional coaches, one of the reasons why some athletes and coaches are being pirated.

Reports quoted Ramirez as saying that President Arroyo is bent on winning the Philippines’ first ever Olympic gold in Beijing.

Of all the Filipino athletes, the boxers have the best chance to win the country’s first gold in the Olympics.

Ramirez has been included in a core group that will oversee preparations for the 2008 Beijing Games. Other members of the group are Philippine Olympic Committee President Jose “Peping” Cojuangco and Rep. Monico Puentevella of Bacolod.

Ramirez said they have set aside a P30-million war chest for the Beijing games. The private sector is also expected to support the Olympic campaign financially, with telecommunications magnate Manny Pangilinan as chief backer.

Ramirez also announced that Filipino athletes are set to go abroad for extensive training and see action in qualifying rounds.

Veteran Harry Tañamor is the first boxer to qualify for the Beijing games. The country hopes to gain more slots as the Amateur Boxing Association is set to send fighters to another qualifying set in Thailand on January 27.

Besides Tañamor, tae kwon do’s Tshomlee Go and Mary Antoinette Rivero, swimming’s Miguel Molina, JB Walsh, Daniel Coakley and Ryan Arabejo and archery’s Mark Javier have also qualified for the Olympics.

At least, we've something to look forward to. The sports body should do some awareness activities about the Olympics and the Filipino athletes. It's sad to know that a lot of Filipinos recognize Pacquiao as the ONLY Filipino sports icon -- which I guess, he's too overhyped and his face on movies and TV shows is tiring to look at.:ohno:

^^Our over-reverence for people like him is one of the reasons why we perform so poor in International Olympic competitions.

What we need are excellent facilities where athletes can train and hone their skills not these foreign trainers, IMO.

^^ But you can't disregard the wealth of knowledge and expertise foreign trainers share with our athletes. Brand spanking new and ultramodern sporting facilities are useless to an athelete without proper theory and game planning when competing with the world's elite.

^^Maybe you're right... So that means the two should come hand in hand...

buti pa ang Indonesia!

Palaran Main Stadium, Samarinda, East Kalimantan, Indonesia.
Preparing for National Sport Event 2008, Host by East Kalimantan Province.

Sport Centre Complex

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Kutaikartanegara Sport Centre (2nd city) for Indonesian National Games 2008 in City of Kutai Kartanegara, East Kalimantan, Indonesia..

Sport Centre Complex

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Main Stadium with 30.000 sheet

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International Standard Velodrome (Arena for Bike Racing)

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Progress in Samarinda…

Arena 1

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Athletes Hotel

- exterior :

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^^kelan kaya tayo mag kaka ganito rin? sana yung gov't mag invest rin sa sports infrastructures katulad nito.

may athletes hotel pa sila, sosyal!

^^Maybe, somebody here in SSC must write to PGMA to build such structure...We don't know it might be granted hehehe.

we can only hope that our own "palarong pambansa" could be as big as theirs. but it won't be difficult if RP would host an Asian Games. or will it be/

kainggit! ang galing ng indonesia. hindi na natin puwedeng isisi na wala tayong pera eh. wala lang talagang support na nanggagaling sa government hindi lang executive kundi lahat ng branches ng gov't!

may athletes hotel pa sila, sosyal!

Athlete Villages are part and parcel of hosting events such as these. As host nation, event organizers should provide accomodations, food, transportation, and other services for the athletes, officials, the media, and also the volunteers involved. :colgate:

^^well, nasanay na lang ata mga PInoy na walang athletes village and other vital facilities kapag may national sporting event like palarong pambansa. I think that sports complex was intended for Indonesian National Games 2008. I've never seen such preparation for the national games done here in my whole life.

^^ Wishful thinking Chrissy. And don't forget that we Pinoys are already used to using public school buildings as our makeshift Athletes' Village. And we're also getting used to being always at the backseat of everything from our neighbors. As you said from your previous post it is due to the lack of support of our government on this front that we can't have these possibilities. All we have are collections of could have beens, which is frustrating.

^^oh so true. paano ba namang hindi ko malalaman, eh sumali ako dati tsaka yung bro ko... :lol: yung bro ko lang nakapasok. :lol::rofl: Tsaka dati kasi naging host ang Naga City ng palarong pambansa. HAy naku, depressing lang ikinukuwento ng mom ko sa akin. The government has no reasons now not to prioritize sports. They could not even reason out lack of funds. My goodness, this problem is long overdue. Imagine, Rizal Memorial is the only significant sports complex that we could offer not only to the whole world but even to our athlete's too. We should serve the latter because they are our heroes. How would they be inspired to fight for us if the government doesn't even show a dint of thoughtfulness on their part. Instead, the government slashes their budget annually! That Rizal complex is almost a hundred years old! My goodness talaga! IF a poor country like Indonesia could afford that, why can't we? It's just a matter of good priorities.

RP hosting the olympics??? anung year? hahahahaha...SEA games na nga lang hirap hirap na tayo eh.

^^ You choose: 2040, 2060, 2080, 2100, or 2120. :lol:

^^ You choose: 2040, 2060, 2080, 2100, or 2120. :lol:


are we still alive on that year?........:lol::lol::lol:

^^oh so true. paano ba namang hindi ko malalaman, eh sumali ako dati tsaka yung bro ko... :lol: yung bro ko lang nakapasok. :lol::rofl: Tsaka dati kasi naging host ang Naga City ng palarong pambansa. HAy naku, depressing lang ikinukuwento ng mom ko sa akin. The government has no reasons now not to prioritize sports. They could not even reason out lack of funds. My goodness, this problem is long overdue. Imagine, Rizal Memorial is the only significant sports complex that we could offer not only to the whole world but even to our athlete's too. We should serve the latter because they are our heroes. How would they be inspired to fight for us if the government doesn't even show a dint of thoughtfulness on their part. Instead, the government slashes their budget annually! That Rizal complex is almost a hundred years old! My goodness talaga! IF a poor country like Indonesia could afford that, why can't we? It's just a matter of good priorities.

My cousins were at that Palarong Pambansa in Naga na binabanggit ng mom mo.

^^wow, sosyal naman. ano naman sabi ng mga cousins mo? depressing din? oh baka naman nanalo sila ha. sosyal! :cheers:

^^wow, sosyal naman. ano naman sabi ng mga cousins mo? depressing din? oh baka naman nanalo sila ha. sosyal! :cheers:

Depressing din pero I think they won.

BTW, based on the question, The only event that the Philippines haven't hosted yet is the Olympics...

^^ and FIFA World Cup. :colgate:

^^ add to that the Youth Olympics. The inagural games will be held on 2010. And the bidding have started.

saka winter olympics. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Special Olympics ,PANA Game, Commonwealth Games :D

^^ PANA Games? Did you mean the Pan-American Games? :dunno:

Add:
Paralympics
Gay Games
X-Games (Summer and Winter)

:lol:

PANA Games as in bow and arrow! :lol:

Commonwealth Games is only exclusive for Commonwealth of Nations members right?

^^ :yes:

Gay games? :lol: I Think we should host that.

Gay games? :lol: I Think we should host that.


:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Gay games? :lol: I Think we should host that.

Do we even send athletes to participate? :dunno:

Do we even send athletes to participate? :dunno:

absolutely! here's the website of the 2006 one held in Chicago.
http://www.gaygameschicago.org/home.php

I wonder what would be the games? :nuts:

^ dancesport, boxing, baseball..

I wonder what would be the games? :nuts:

http://www.gaygameschicago.org/sports/home.php.. You know, the same sports 'straight' people play?

"The Games will feature 12,000 participants, competition in 30 sports, world-class athletes and artists, band and choral performances, nightly medal ceremonies, a week-long arts festival, parties, and spectacular opening and closing ceremonies featuring entertainment, pageantry, and the parade of participants from more than 70 countries."

Forgot one, The Goodwill Games, but I don't think they organize those games anymore.

let's count the Olympics out in the next 2 decades for our hosting aspirations calendar. The IOC have shown no sympathy for modest bids. For them it's always bigger is better. I'm predicting that there will come a time that hosting the Olympics will be so impractical even for rich nations. LOndon as of now is feeling the strain.

The Asian Games is well within striking distance bast we dont get pitted against a MiddleEastern-oil-rich country, or an EastAsian city. 2018 is a good opportunity.

We ought to encourage private sector initiative with government backing. that's the only way i see na we could move forwrd with any kind of bid.

Summer Olympiad
1996 Atlanta
2000 Sydney
2004 Athens
2008 Beijing
2012 London
2016 North/South America or Africa should host
2020 North/South America or Africa should host

Winter Olympiad
1992 Lillehammer
1998 Nagano
2002 Salt Lake City
2006 Torino
2010 Vancouver
2014 Sochi
2018 Asia, South America, or Oceania should host

^^I hope they would come up with a plan that would make a city in Africa host the Olympics. IMagine, all nations would put their share in the olympic fund to help that African city to successfully host the games. Isn't it wonderful?

^^ I imagine Johannesburg (RSA), Cairo (EGY), and Nairobi (KEN) are likely possible candidates to host a summer olympiad. All are internationally prominent and have hosted regional/continental sporting events. I believe South Africa will be hosting the FIFA World Cup soon.

Lamberto Macias Sports and Cultural Center, Dumaguete City

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Inaugurated 1995

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ano-anong mga event na ba ang na iheld sa Dumaguete?...international events ha..

^^ Geez.. Like since when??.. Well, for now, I can only name the three big ones that took place last year..The 2nd International Rondalla Festival, The International I-TAX Convention, The International 9-ball Competition.. There are only three thats coming in my head now. Like there was also the international convention that had something to do with water. I know I have missed 2-4 events.. Couldnt recall.. BRB..

Ormoc City Superdome
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another front view of the Ormoc City Superdome
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Is anyone bothered by the fact that this building is actually not a dome??

At least yung sideview sillhouette nya mukhang Globe. he he

Outfitting the misfits in Philippine sports (http://sports.inquirer.net/inquirersports/inquirersports/view_article.php?article_id=109894)

For a change, something beautiful is happening in our overly politicized national sports landscape.

A report that came out on the last day of the old year carried the happy threat of the Philippines winning out as the best-dressed contingent in this year’s Olympic Games in Beijing.

OK, we won out in the kitchen event with a team of top-rate chefs in the last Southeast Asian Games.

Now, the Philippine contingent may yet score another win with its fancy uniform at the opening parade for the Beijing Games.

For the record, the Olympiad is not a pageant where they hand out trophies for the most photogenic and the finest in evening outfit.

But our sports leaders, headed by awful flops in the last SEA Games in Thailand, are already making sure, this early, that they get the best outfitter for the next Philippine Olympic delegation.

This meant that our sports leaders, majority of whom remained stuck in their impotence, truly cared for our athletes.

Actually, there’s no news whatsoever on what Asian neighbors, like powerhouse Thailand which has sent a total of five boxers into the Olympic proper in just one qualifying tournament, would wear in the Beijing Olympics.

But, although the Philippines is still down on the floor following the horrible beating it suffered in the Thailand SEA Games, sports leaders are in a frantic rush to prepare the best attire to the Olympic party.

Still locked in a guessing game on how to scale the monumental challenges in Beijing, these same noisy leaders, riding on phony posturing, are also involved in a mad race to have themselves invited to the next Olympics -- on people’s expense.

Who knows? Maybe the early sartorial preparation was being goaded by the call from President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo, who gave face to the overriding national obsession for an Olympic gold medal when she innocently sounded out a let’s-do-it call at Malacañan Palace last month.

"Even just one gold medal, let’s do it this time," the President was quoted as saying.

The President was, indeed, right. The time for the first Olympic gold is long overdue.

The Philippines missed the Olympic gold medal by a few honest votes from boxing judges when featherweight Anthony Villanueva, visibly the winner over his Russian foe, was awarded only the silver medal in the 1964 Tokyo Olympics.

Diosdado Macapagal, the President’s father, was still the Commander-in-Chief when the legendary Joe Cantada, crying “we were robbed, we were robbed” in his unforgettable baritone, gave voice to national frustration all the way from ringside in Tokyo.

*Yes, we may no longer be able to determine the type of attire worn by our athletes in the Tokyo Olympiad.

But, based on the exploits of Villanueva, it’s easy to conclude they all came fully prepared for the grand Olympic ball.

This is being specifically mentioned here for the President’s consumption.

It’s like this. Year after year after Tokyo, Philippine contingents storm the Olympic party, often in their finest silken suites.

The Philippine delegation, however, got regularly left out in the cold, unable to break into the grand Olympic main ball, where only the magnificent were invited and honored.

Actually, it doesn’t matter in the Olympics if the winner shows up in rags.

There were gold-medal honorees in the Olympics’ poor athletes who had had to run the lung-busting marathon barefoot.

Will the Philippines, which threaten to show up at the Olympic party as the best dressed among the contingents, finally make it to the grand ball?

Unfortunately, nobody among our sports leaders could honestly inform the President the many steps the Philippines has taken backward with its abominable flop in the last SEA Games.

No need to repeat that the inadequacy of an inferior sports program, run perennially by impotent leaders who continue to be honored at Malacañang for their mediocrity, cannot be covered by sartorial elegance.

“We are correcting all the negative things that happened during the SEA Games,” assured bowling chief Steve Hontiveros, himself a roaring failure in Thailand last month and in the Doha Asian Games, who has been tasked to deal with several aspirant outfitters.

He said they did not want to see a repeat of hideous scenes, like luggage losing its handle before the user could board the plane, which became the subject of many complaints in the Thailand Games.

GO PILIPINS! :cheers2:

^^ Geez.. Like since when??.. Well, for now, I can only name the three big ones that took place last year..The 2nd International Rondalla Festival, The International I-TAX Convention, The International 9-ball Competition.. There are only three thats coming in my head now. Like there was also the international convention that had something to do with water. I know I have missed 2-4 events.. Couldnt recall.. BRB..

thank u for the info..

Is anyone bothered by the fact that this building is actually not a dome??

kaya nga like Albay Astrodome in Legazpi..

POC also plans Clark village for RP athletes (http://sports.inquirer.net/inquirersports/inquirersports/view/20080128-115223/POC-also-plans-Clark-village-for-RP-athletes)

MANILA, Philippines -- Like the Philippine Sports Commission, the Philippine Olympic Committee also wants to build an athletes’ village as part of its proposed national training center in Clark Field, Pampanga.

POC president Jose “Peping” Cojuangco Jr. plans to request the Olympic Council of Asia to fund the developmental plan of the national training center project estimated at P2 million ($50,000) during his scheduled meeting with OCA president Ahmad Al-Fahad last night in Kuwait.

Cojuangco, accompanied by POC secretary general Steve Hontiveros and deputy secretary general Mark Joseph, will also present to Al-Fahad a POC proposal for new rules on judging and officiating in un-measurable sports like boxing and other martial arts disciplines to prevent bias and one-sided decisions in future competitions in the region.

“I had talks with some of the land developers and was told that it would cost P2 million to draw up the developmental plan,” Cojuangco, earlier designated as special adviser to the OCA president, said before his departure for Kuwait.

“This will be my next advice to him (Al-Fahad). He promised to give the POC another project and I will take the opportunity to get his commitment on the proposed training center.”

The proposed national training center occupies a portion of the 20,000-hectare government property in Clark located in the town of Sagovia.

Will an African city ever host the Winter Olympics?

^^yes...why not..on top of Mount Kilimanjaro, Tanzania.

^^yes...why not..on top of Mount Kilimanjaro, Tanzania.

That would be for Winter Olympics then...

^^ I imagine Johannesburg (RSA), Cairo (EGY), and Nairobi (KEN) are likely possible candidates to host a summer olympiad. All are internationally prominent and have hosted regional/continental sporting events. I believe South Africa will be hosting the FIFA World Cup soon.

Considering the recent violent events and instability in Kenya, I don't think Nairobi will be hosting any international event any time soon. Cape Town, South Africa actually came close to hosting the Olympics, and it may have a good chance for 2020
from Wikipedia:
Cape Town has Olympic aspirations: in 1996, Cape Town was one of the five candidate cities shortlisted by the IOC to launch official candidatures to host the 2004 Summer Olympics. Although the games ultimately went to Athens, Cape Town came in an impressive third place, edging out Stockholm and Buenos Aires in the first three rounds of voting. There has been some speculation that Cape Town is seeking the South African Olympic Committee's nomination to be South Africa's bid city for the 2020 Summer Olympic Games.

Source: Philippine Daily Inquirer
By June Navarro
PSC to scout Olympic rivals
MANILA, Philippines -- Apart from the training and exposure of athletes, a part of the P30-million budget for the Olympic program from the Philippine Sports Commission will go to scouting.

PSC chair William “Butch” Ramirez said the Olympic task force composed of top officials from the government sports agency and the Philippine Olympic Committee would send coaches overseas to monitor the progress of the Filipino athletes’ possible opponents.

Continue (http://sports.inquirer.net/inquirersports/inquirersports/view/20080129-115424/PSC-to-scout-Olympic-rivals)

Suuuuuure

30 million pesos doesnt seem alot.

:yes: that's not enough. But oh well, I guess that's what the Philippines can only afford.

Btw, the hosting of the inaugural youth olympics on 2010 is in contention between Moscow and Singapore. The winning host city will be announced on Feb. 21.

The eliminated host city bidders:
Athens, Greece
Bangkok, Thailand
Debrecen, Hungary
Guatemala City, Guatemala
Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
Poznan, Poland
Turin, Italy

30 million pesos doesnt seem alot.

^^ that's enough, 30M Php is lots of money for an observer.

so Custer, do u prefer Singapore to host the games? ok sana, I want to volunteer. haha, kaso di na ko youth sa 2010

^^ Of course. Although, I think I won't already be here by 2010 but I'd like to see Singapore to host it. You mean kelangan teenager ka to volunteer?

i dont know... pero youth games eh

Volunteers could be of any age. The downside to it, you're not getting paid for the job since you are, just indeed volunteering. I volunteered for the 1996 Atlanta Summer Olympics, although the organization I volunteered for wasn't under the IOC umbrella of organizations. :colgate:

Speaking of the Atlanta Olympics, that bombing that happened in Olympic Park, I was near that spot a day earlier watching an outdoor concert. I still can't believe my fortune that I wasn't there when the bombing occurred. :shocked:

haha :lol: Hindi naman siguro.

^^ that's enough, 30M Php is lots of money for an observer.

The observer is only part of the 30M Peso Olympic program.

Manila, Philippines together with Hiroshima, Japan (joint cities) will try to bid for the 2020 and 2024 Summer Olympics. Is this true?

^^ Where'd you get that information? I haven't heard of that yet.

Manila, Philippines together with Hiroshima, Japan (joint cities) will try to bid for the 2020 and 2024 Summer Olympics. Is this true?
Where'd you get that information? I haven't heard of that yet.


Probably from Wikipedia. But I don't think that that will happen, just think of the logistics of it. Two nations, with flying times of 5-6 hours from each other, difference in local times, catering [transportation, food, accomodations, and other neccessities] to 10,500+ atheletes and officials (not to mention spectators and tourists). Plus, I read somewhere that the IOC doesn't really like the idea of having two nations host an Olympiad, so the likelihood of a joint-bid ever materializing is close to nil.

And besides it's not like Japan can't solely host the Olympics. They are pretty much or overly capable to do so.

Probably from Wikipedia. But I don't think that that will happen, just think of the logistics of it. Two nations, with flying times of 5-6 hours from each other, difference in local times, catering [transportation, food, accomodations, and other neccessities] to 10,500+ atheletes and officials (not to mention spectators and tourists). Plus, I read somewhere that the IOC doesn't really like the idea of having two nations host an Olympiad, so the likelihood of a joint-bid ever materializing is close to nil.

why not? matagal pa ang 2020/2024.
we can improve much by then.

^^ Even if the Philippines improves and can host the Olympics, the IOC still has the final say and they frown upon joint-bids, as much as possible they want the Olympics hosted one nation at a time.

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The Philippines is planning to bid for the 2018 Asiad ^8^

Hope we can make it:

The Philippine Olympic Committee (POC) plans to bid for the 2018 Asian Games in the capital city of Manila. According to POC Chairman Robert Aventajado, this is not far from reality if the country can acquire the right funds for the games. Aside this, the country has successfully hosting the Southeast Asian Games in 2005 and will host again in 2019.[2]

Sana may world Class Stadium na tayo that Time ^8^

^^ If we're planning for such a bid, then a world class stadium is a necesity.

2018 is too soon, even for just the Asian Games. Olympic calibre cities takes decades to plan just to get a bid in to the IOC. Also, the time span between the announcement of the newest Olympic host city by the IOC and the time that that city assumes hosting duties is seven years.

2018 is too soon, even for just the Asian Games. Olympic calibre cities takes decades to plan just to get a bid in to the IOC. Also, the time span between the announcement of the newest Olympic host city by the IOC and the time that that city assumes hosting duties is seven years.hahaha.., hindi kasama delays diyan siyempre. :lol: alam mo naman pinoy, mahilig sa delays. for sure, madedelay yang pangarap na yan for decades din. :lol:

Singapore wins the bid to host the inaguaral Youth Olympics in 2010 edging Moscow w/ 53 votes to 44. It was announced a few hours ago by the IOC president in Lausanne, Switzerland.:)

Hope we could host it someday as well.:)

^^Aww, that would look cute, imagine teenagers engaging in competitive sports!

^^ Hehe yeah. I think the age bracket is from 14-18 y/o only. It was set as a guidline.

^^I've read of that too in Wiki. I think we've got better chances on that, private schools here train their students well, unlike the government on our nation's athletes. Kawawa mga athletes natin.

And this is a great opportunity. I mean Singapore have said/admitted before that it doesn't have the capabilities to host bigger multi-sports event like the Olympics not because of money matters (although a part of it) but mostly because of the size of the nation. It may not be as big as the Summer Olympics but it is still Olympics by name w/c is equally prestigious.

We could aspire to host it someday cause it is more realistic compared to us bidding for the Summer Olympics itself.

RP to host 2014 Asian Beach Games (http://sports.inquirer.net/breakingnews/breakingnews/view/20080318-125387/RP-to-host-2014-Asian-Beach-Games)

For more than half a century, the Philippines has not hosted a multisport event as significant as the Asian Games.

The Olympic Council of Asia broke this spell recently after it awarded to the country the hosting of the 2014 Asian Beach Games.

Philippine Olympic Committee secretary general Steve Hontiveros Monday said OCA president Sheikh Ahmad Al-Fahad Al-Sabah would fly to Manila on April 1 to make the announcement.

POC president Jose “Peping” Cojuangco Jr., adviser to the OCA president, invited Al-Sabah to the Philippines to inspect the possible venues of the Asian Beach Games in Cebu, Boracay and Davao.

Cojuangco, who paid Al-Sabah a visit at the OCA headquarters in Kuwait last January along with Hontiveros and POC deputy secretary general Mark Joseph, will also accompany the sheikh to the proposed site of the country’s athletes’ village in Clark Field, Pampanga.

Hontiveros said Al-Sabah would meet with the POC executive board on April 1 to officially award the hosting of the 2014 Asian Beach Games.

Ramon “Tats” Suzara, the Qatar-based former consultant of the Philippine Sports Commission, would be in-charge of the organizing committee for the games, which will see the participation of OCA’s 45 member-countries.

The first Asian Beach Games will be held this year in Bali, Indonesia, on Oct. 18-26.

Sports included in the games include beach volleyball, beach handball, beach sepak takraw, marathon, swimming and beach soccer.

The Philippines is planning to bid for the 2018 Asiad ^8^

Hope we can make it:

The Philippine Olympic Committee (POC) plans to bid for the 2018 Asian Games in the capital city of Manila. According to POC Chairman Robert Aventajado, this is not far from reality if the country can acquire the right funds for the games. Aside this, the country has successfully hosting the Southeast Asian Games in 2005 and will host again in 2019.[2]

Sana may world Class Stadium na tayo that Time ^8^

i think the venue of the asiad is rotated among member countries. it's only in the olympics that they do it thru bidding.:)

^^ Nope. The Asian Games also go through a bidding process by potential host cities, overseen by the Olympic Council of Asia. Much like how the IOC chooses the next Olympic host city.

ampf!?!? ano ba naman eto... hekhekhek... basta basta na lang gumagawa ng mga promotional vids.... ultimo logo ng POC at OCA at PSC, lakas ng loob gamitin...

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etong last one, medyo nadala ako sa aking emosyon at napa comment tuloy ako.... medyo harsh ata... ehehehe sorry

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Wala lang (OT)....

The Olympic Torch was lit today in Olympia, Greece. Part of the route that the Torch will travel through is Tibet; I wonder if the Beijing Olympic Organizing Committee will alter it due to the recent civil unrest that is currently happening there.

- An Olympic Games is a best place where people all over the world meet not only to compete but also to share their cultures and the City of Manila is a best place to host this highly- symbolic event.


Refer to this website: http://manila2024.weebly.com/our-bid.html



Sana mag push through ang project sa Pasay City for an Olympic Village. :)

I would also link you to

http://www.gamesbids.com/forums/index.php?act=idx

where the matter of mounting Olympic (and similar) bids are discussed very concisively, humourously and sometimes, brutally. Watch out, there are a few pros there with some IOC connections.

- An Olympic Games is a best place where people all over the world meet not only to compete but also to share their cultures and the City of Manila is a best place to host this highly- symbolic event.


Refer to this website: http://manila2024.weebly.com/our-bid.html



Sana mag push through ang project sa Pasay City for an Olympic Village. :)

for real??!!

^^ written by a 13 year old (http://profiles.friendster.com/princexd)... for real.... hehehe...

siya rin yung nagkakalat este nag po-post ng manila olympic bid videos sa youtube....
:hilarious:

i'm not against a manila bid... but of course, yang mga ganyang gawain, dapat pinagpaplanuhan at dapat pulido when you release it to the public.... hehehe, grabe, lantaran pa kung gamitin yung POC at OCAsia logos....

if the Philippines really is interested in hosting these events.. then they would at least make proposals of a complex. but no.

Wala lang....

I noticed that all Olympic host nations all have won gold medals (Summer and Winter), maybe that's a criterion for hosting. Hmm.... :sly:

The Philippines gotta get crackin' then. :lol:






Don't mind me, just doing some silly musings. :colgate:

^^ most people see it that way... parang "hidden" criterion na siya for hosting the olympics...

^^ most people see it that way... parang "hidden" criterion na siya for hosting the olympics...

Obviously, a nation must have a STRONG sporting tradition to even put forth a credible bid. THe logic being: if the host's athletes get all the way to the finals, then at least the stadia will be full and the atmosphere will be electric. Pero kung hanggang elimination rounds lang, then patay na -- then only iyong mga foreigners will attend the latter rounds. Which is why the Games usually go to the top 12 most robust economies PLUS them having strong sporting traditions. (Tingnan mo sa Greece 4 years ago, the stadia were half-full or (half-empty, depending on how you see the glass) the first week of the Games.

But even more than this factor, EVEN more than the cost of building the stadia and the villages, is the cost alone of submitting a credible bid. The 2016 candidates (CHicago, Doha, Madrid, Rio, Tokyo) have all budgeted some $35 million each for the campaign phase. And that's $35 million WITHOUT any assurance that your city will even advance to the Short list.

^^ Traditionally, Track and Field events aren't scheduled until the second week of the Olympics, therefore it makes sense that in the first week of the Games, the Olympic stadium would be half or near empty.

^^ Traditionally, Track and Field events aren't scheduled until the second week of the Olympics, therefore it makes sense that in the first week of the Games, the Olympic stadium would be half or near empty.

C'mon, kiretoce, you've worked the Games. You know the Olympic stadium isn't the only action the first week of the Games. Other sports are already in full swing the first week alone. You're just singling out T&F, for which here are normally 10 days of T&F competition. So, over the 17 days of an Olympic period, T&F usually starts the first Tuesday after the OC -- and must end (except for the Men's marathon) 3 days before the Closing, so the main stadium can be gotten ready for Closing and/or the football finals if that were the case.

But in Athens, even in the football prelims in other cities (Thessaloniki, Heraklion), the football venues were half-empty if the Greek teams weren't playing.

They can't even provide decent accomodations to their very own athletes. :ohno:

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Palarong Pambansa athletes living in dusty, cramped quarters (http://www.gmanews.tv/story/91026/Palaro-athletes-living-in-cramped-rooms-sleeping-on-floors-parent-laments)

Aside from the regular games, athletes competing in the ongoing Palarong Pambansa in Palawan face another big challenge - surviving dusty and cramped living quarters throughout their stay in Puerto Princesa City where the games are being held.

In an interview on dzBB radio, Joe Asabal - a parent of some of the athletes - said the children are being made to sleep on dusty floors while Games officials are enjoying air-conditioned accommodations.

"Sabi ng DepEd na kausap ng coaches na kasama namin sabi nila so far ito ang the best billeting area sa Palawan. Ito ang pinaka-the worst. Ang bata pinatulog sa sahig (The Department of Education told the coaches who were with us that this is the best billeting area in Palawan. But it turned out this is the worst. The athletes are made to sleep on the floor)," Asabal said.

In fact, one athlete who could no longer stand the accommodations had asked to be brought home, the parent said.

"Yung magulang ng taga-Iriga kararating lang. Dumating sa Palawan, text ng anak, kunin na raw siya para paalisin sa teribleng kalagayan (Parents of one athlete came all the way from Iriga to fetch their child, who could no longer stand the accommodation)," Asabal said.

He said he has taken photos of the shabby accommodations, as well as the first-class facilities for the DepEd officials and regional staff.

On the other hand, DepEd technical management and administration officer Len Toledo said the blame should go to the hosts. "Yung hosting ay responsibility ng local government, sa Puerto Princesa City. Kami technical management and administration (The hosting will be the responsibility of the local government. We take care only of technical management and administration)," Toledo said.

Earlier, dzBB radio reported that the theft of an expensive laptop computer of a delegate gave the ongoing Palarong Pambansa another black eye.

The station's Palawan affiliate reported Wednesday morning that unidentified thieves broke into the hotel room of the Zamboanga Peninsula delegation and took the computer worth P70,000.

Security was tightened at all hotels and event sites following the incident, which occurred past noon Tuesday.

Puerto Princesa City police picked up three men for questioning but eventually released them after they turned up "negative."

^^this is unacceptable and disgraceful.

that's sooo bad, I expected more from the Peurto Princesa LGU...

They can't even provide decent accomodations to their very own athletes. :ohno:

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Palarong Pambansa athletes living in dusty, cramped quarters (http://www.gmanews.tv/story/91026/Palaro-athletes-living-in-cramped-rooms-sleeping-on-floors-parent-laments)

Aside from the regular games, athletes competing in the ongoing Palarong Pambansa in Palawan face another big challenge - surviving dusty and cramped living quarters throughout their stay in Puerto Princesa City where the games are being held.


^^this is unacceptable and disgraceful.

that's sooo bad, I expected more from the Peurto Princesa LGU...

When we (UPLB) competed in the PASUC-IV Olympics (formerly SCUAA-IV Games), we stayed at Palawan State University, sa classrooms lang rin kami natulog, kami nagdala ng sarili naming beddings (tama ba ang term? hehe) di naman kami nagreklamo, alam naman kasi namin ang realidad ng pag oorganize ng ganyang games (sa PASUC-IV Olympics ini-announce na sa Puerto Princesa nga ang palarong pambansa). we didn't ask for 1st class accommodations, we didn't even pay for such, and besides, yung contingent organizing committees ang dapat nagaasikaso nyan, every contingent may pondo yang kinukuha from each school na may delegate. (kaya nga na ban ang UPLB sa PASUC-IV at LASUC Olympics eh, wala kasing pondo ang univ. Bale from PASUC-IV, ang winners/medalists, lalaban sa LASUC, winners/medalists from LASUC saka pa mag move up to Palarong Pambansa)

:ohno: I am not expecting the country will be able to host the Olympics but there is a big chance in Asian Games or ASEAN

Thursday, June 04, 2008
2016 Olympic Short List Announcement from SportAccord in Athens

The short list of the four official candidate cities for the bid to host the 2016 Summer Olympic Games are: Chicago, Madrid, Rio de Janeiro and Tokyo
The host city will be announced in October 2009.


Tuesday, June 03, 2008
2016 Olympic Bid Short List Preview
Posted 8:05 pm ET (GamesBids.com)

This Wednesday June 4 at SportAccord in Athens, the International Olympic Committee (IOC) will release their Candidature Acceptance Report that represents a technical evaluation of the 2016 bids based on their questionnaire responses and other data acquired by the IOC. In the past, the IOC has set a benchmark score and they have short-listed each bid that surpasses this score, however they are not committed to this model. Additional bids may also be included at the discretion of the evaluation commission. There is no specific number of bids to be included on the list but expect three to five to make it through to the final election for this bid.

At 18:30 local time, IOC President Jacques Rogge will announce the list of short-listed bids, and these bids will continue their campaigns and provide the IOC with full candidature files, or bid books, in January 2009. A final evaluation report will be published based on city visits and other information submitted and the evaluation commission will choose which bids to put on the final ballot when the final vote takes place October 2, 2009 at the Olympic Congress in Copenhagen.

This is how GamesBids.com rates the chances of each bid. The bids are color coded and ranked in confidence order.

GREEN = WILL BE ACCEPTED
AMBER = MAY OR MAY NOT BE SELECTED
RED = WILL NOT BE SELECTED

Madrid (Green)
Experience gained from their 2012 bid will be an important advantage for the Madrid bid team. The IOC already measured Madrid’s offering as one of the best technical bids last time around, and they came very close to defeating the frontrunners in the early voting rounds. This time Madrid is even stronger and they will be well accepted as a candidate city.

Tokyo (Green)
Tokyo has presented a strong bid concept and has promised a Games in the city centre – a compelling proposal for the IOC. The well-organized team has excellent support and the bid will likely qualify to move on as a candidate city.

Chicago (Green)
The United States Olympic Committee is a vital partner to the IOC and Chicago’s bid will be well received on those merits. With a fundamentally strong offering, experienced team and strong support, Chicago will be included on the short list.

Rio de Janeiro (Amber)
Rio de Janeiro last bid for the 2012 Games but were not accepted as a candidate city by the IOC as the city lacked technical fundamentals. But the bid team is more experienced this time around and Rio has successfully hosted the 2007 Pan Am Games and is preparing for the 2014 World Cup.

IOC President Jacques Rogge is pushing to host the Games in new frontiers and Rio represents an opportunity for South America to host the Games for the first time. If the IOC selects a short list of more than three cities, Rio might get that chance.

Doha (Amber)
Doha will be hoping that the IOC maintains their traditional five city short-list. If so, the bid from Qatar will likely be included on the list.

Doha hopes to be the first Arab nation to host the Games and the city has the funding and experience from the Asian Games and other international sports events. However hurdles exist including a difficult climate, planned Games dates outside of the traditional window, and insufficient accommodation.

Prague (Red)
Since the launch of their bid, Prague’s efforts have fizzled and the team has lost funding and public support. This city will not move beyond this point of the bid process.

Baku (Red)
Baku has a great story to tell, but the bid lacks experience and infrastructure and needs more time to develop its Olympic concept. Baku will not be included on the shortlist.

^^ London was already awarded the 2012 Summer Olypics, that cancels Madrid's chances of hosting the 2016 Games since it'll be back-to-back European hosts. If Tokyo get's it, it'll be a....

Europe (Athens 2004) -- Asia (Beijing 2008) -- Europe (London 2012) -- Asia (Tokyo 2016)
....series of hosts, which I don't think the IOC will want happen. Chicago is the best candidate in my opinion, since it'll be 20 years since the Americas have hosted the Games (last host was Atlanta in 1996). Although, it'd be nice if Rio de Janeiro gets awarded the Games since South America hasn't hosted the Olympics before. Same with Doha, it'll be the first time for West Asia since all the previous Asian hosts were in the East.