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flymordecai
June 4th, 2008, 10:59 PM
If Europe can have it twice in three Olympics, why not Asia? I'd like Tokyo to win the 2016 bid, but Chicago would also be good.

zazo
June 4th, 2008, 11:03 PM
Oh.....I depends of which two cities are in the final, so some countries will vote one or another, so Madrid is a possible winner

kiretoce
June 5th, 2008, 12:38 AM
If Europe can have it twice in three Olympics, why not Asia? I'd like Tokyo to win the 2016 bid, but Chicago would also be good.

Were you referring to the Olympics in Barcelona (ESP) 1992, Albertville (FRA) 1992, and Lillehammer (NOR) 1994? Two of them were Winter Games (Albertville and Lillehammer), the other was the Summer Games (Barcelona). What I'm talking about was strictly the Summer Olympics only. Now unless the IOC breaks with tradition and awards back-to-back Olympics on the same continent, then Madrid's bid has a chance of securing the 2016 Olympiad.

flymordecai
June 5th, 2008, 06:25 AM
^^ No, I'm referring to Athens 2004 and London 2012. That's two Olympics in Europe out of three. Why not Asia? :)

Besides, Japan has not had the (summer) Olympics since 1964 while the US had it last in 1996.

shyaman
June 7th, 2008, 05:44 AM
I would like a South American or African city to finally host the Olympics. That would be a first for the continents.

South Africa is going to host the Soccer World Cup. I hope the Olympics will be next.

renell
June 9th, 2008, 07:08 AM
:ohno: I am not expecting the country will be able to host the Olympics but there is a big chance in Asian Games or ASEAN

Asian Games would be the dream, but the last SEA Games looked very "makeshift" from us.

The biggest issue is that most of these bids to host large sporting events is pushed by a sporting or tourism force within the government. Olympic bids are supported (financially and other) by the heads of state as well as famous national personalities.

If someone high ranking in the POC or the gov't department that handles sport (which one is it?) has a strategic plan to host the games say in 20 years time, then it will be possible. I don't know where wikipedia took it's information from but apparently there's a 2019 SEA Games in the Philippines.

kiretoce
June 9th, 2008, 07:16 AM
^^ Aren't the hosting for the SEA Games in rotation by the alphabetical order of nation members in the ASEAN? They're not really bid upon, but designated.

renell
June 9th, 2008, 11:50 AM
Yeah. Maybe I made my last paragraph a bit blurry. The 2019 SEAG is designated to the Philippines according to wikipedia (not entirely reliable). But when I talk about planning to host I was referring to the Asiad.

I'm not too sure about alphabetical. The SEAG Commission also considers the capacity of a country to host events - hence why Laos is only hosting its first SEAG in a few years time. East Timor, Cambodia and Burma/Myanmar still haven't had a go.

brownman
June 9th, 2008, 12:16 PM
^^ It's alphabetical. Singapore was supposed to be hosting the SEA Games 2007 but they skipped the chance to Thailand due to its plan of updating their aged National Stadium making way to an uber modern sports complex ready for the Inaguaral Youth Olympics in 2010.

But like you said, they also have to consider the capability of the country to host the event. In Laos' case, I think they had a major hand coming from Thailand to go ahead with the hosting.

stanleymalls
June 9th, 2008, 12:18 PM
Very impressive yung sinulat nung thirteen-year old na sinasabi ni @benchjade. if it wasn't for @vince_rillian. hehehehe.....:lol::lol:

Why not? Kung kaya nating maging First world before 2020, then this is a major project for the government. Maya or bukas, post ako ng suggestion para sa logo ng Manila 2024 Olympics. hehehehehe......... :lol::nuts::lol::nuts:

bukid
June 9th, 2008, 12:31 PM
SEA Games, YES.

Asian Games, MAYBE

Olympic Games, NO

stanleymalls
June 9th, 2008, 01:07 PM
Suggestions lang po ito! Pero wala akong magawa...... so eto ang ginawa ko....

Suggestion # 1:
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/8642/manila2024zt9.png

Suggestion # 2:
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/79/manila20242gf9.png

Sa tingin nyo.....? Don't judge it agad ha! :) :) :)

vince_rilian
June 9th, 2008, 01:29 PM
^^ it would be great if you have some explanation on the logo's symbolism

kiretoce
June 9th, 2008, 01:56 PM
The first logo I don't get at all. But the second logo looks like a stylized gumamela flower, and I'm assuming that that star-like pictogram is a person.

renell
June 9th, 2008, 04:13 PM
The second one looks like it has the Ayala Center logo.
It's a start, though I have to notch up the realism and say I think you should make an Asiad logo for Manila (or Angeles?:D) 2022 or 2026.

flymordecai
June 11th, 2008, 01:31 AM
I was inspired by stanleymalls' Olympic logo design, so I made my own. :) I chose a more realistic date for the Philippine's first Olympics. :D

Objective: I used the Banaue Rice Terraces as the symbol for the Philippines. It is a monument attesting to the Filipino's ingenuity and fortitude. It's also a symbol of progress (climbing up into the sky). There are two versions: one with a blue sky and one with the 3 colors of the Philippine flag. I prefer the 1st one myself, I wish I could incorporate the colors of the flag better, but that's it for now. The font I chose for the city text is Futura, with its sharp and pointed edges showing the Philippine's united and progressive state (in the future :lol:). I also added text in Alibata/Baybayin that says "Pilipinas" or actually Pelepena, which just shows more of our culture.

Created in Illustrator.

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r64/jborlongan/manila2036.png

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r64/jborlongan/Manila2036a.png

What do you guys think? Criticisms and comments welcome. Perhaps I can make a better version with your suggestions. :D

tigidig14
June 11th, 2008, 01:52 AM
ano ba mga sinisymbol yan, di ko magets e, maxadong artistic @fly and sky
pero d ba may temang pangbansa kautlad nung sarimanok o yung bangka dun sa zamboanga, forgot whats the name tho

flymordecai
June 11th, 2008, 02:03 AM
^^ Read my post. I explained what the logo symbolizes. :)

Jim856796
June 11th, 2008, 02:19 AM
Manila already hosted the SEA Games three times, I'd like to see Manila bid for the Asian Games in the near future.

renell
June 11th, 2008, 03:50 AM
I like the "upward" idea but to be frank it's a bit too vague for me without the text. Logo's should be symbolic and artistic without being vague and too abstract.

kiretoce
June 11th, 2008, 04:11 AM
Nice. But it's a little bit too literal. Logos are meant to be the simplest representation of an idea, which also makes it a symbol. If you look at the previous Olympic logos, like the stylized depiction of the Sydney Opera House/boomerang/runner with torch for the 2000 Sydney Games, or the olive wreath during the 2004 Athens Games.

Chrisvenz
June 11th, 2008, 04:38 AM
ano ba mga sinisymbol yan, di ko magets e, maxadong artistic @fly and sky
pero d ba may temang pangbansa kautlad nung sarimanok o yung bangka dun sa zamboanga, forgot whats the name tho

The Vinta.

flymordecai
June 11th, 2008, 06:38 AM
Nice. But it's a little bit too literal. Logos are meant to be the simplest representation of an idea, which also makes it a symbol. If you look at the previous Olympic logos, like the stylized depiction of the Sydney Opera House/boomerang/runner with torch for the 2000 Sydney Games, or the olive wreath during the 2004 Athens Games.

Yeah, agreed. I got a little lazy about the actual symbol. I used the "Live Trace" feature of Illustrator, which is the lazy way. If I had used another tool, I would have it more abstract. As it is right now, it's just a vectorized photograph that I simplified.

Nothing beats London 2012 logo though. :lol:

kiretoce
June 11th, 2008, 06:54 AM
^^ The still, or animated version? :naughty: ( :lol: )

"ZukiChirO"
June 11th, 2008, 10:27 AM
here are the some logos that i found in the web.

Olympic Games:

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t93/bermudez_08/1_251146917l.jpg


Youth Olympic Games:

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t93/bermudez_08/1_535949690l.jpg


Asian Games:

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t93/bermudez_08/1_239763174l.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t93/bermudez_08/1_134199942l.jpg


Southeast Asian Games:

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t93/bermudez_08/1_738610119l.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t93/bermudez_08/1_304900811l.jpg


:cheers::cheers::cheers:

kiretoce
June 11th, 2008, 01:48 PM
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t93/bermudez_08/1_134199942l.jpg

I like this best out of the whole lot. But still the clock tower needs to be refined and simplified, and the typeface should be stronger to give it some oomph. The rest looks childish and amateurish at best.

dinabaw
July 1st, 2008, 05:54 AM
share ko lang ang state of the art sports complex ng Davao del Norte!

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee201/klutz1030/Sports%20Complex/DSC08721B.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee201/klutz1030/Sports%20Complex/DSC08723B.jpg

tyronne
July 1st, 2008, 06:29 AM
^^Is it already under construction? It looks nice.

nicko
July 1st, 2008, 06:03 PM
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/2509/conventiondc5.jpg
Negros Oriental Int. Convention Center (left), Hotel (southern part), Rubberized oval with bleachers (center), Olympic standard swimming and diving pools (right)

last phase of construction is concentrated on the hotel, rubberized oval, and roofing and color coding of bleachers / chairs:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3102/2588653533_7aa738fc1f.jpg?v=0
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3120/2589488608_a1f7ccb2cc.jpg?v=0
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3150/2588652977_4b9007a2af.jpg?v=0
*pics taken first week of June

Construction is still on-going in preparation for the Visayas Olympics next month. Parking areas are all located underground.
Location: Capitol Area, Dumaguete City.

vince_rilian
July 2nd, 2008, 02:57 AM
share ko lang ang state of the art sports complex ng Davao del Norte!
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee201/klutz1030/Sports%20Complex/DSC08723B.jpg

hmmm, masyadong malayo yung spectators sa track, lalo na sa field.... plus the added obstruction by that roof support... di maganda.... but the overall design/concept looks good (as eye candy... hehe)

dinabaw
July 2nd, 2008, 02:17 PM
^^Is it already under construction? It looks nice.

will start this year & it will be finished in 2010 in time for the Palarong Pambansa! :cheers:

The Bleacher building will have VIP lounges tulad ng sa Basketball, Baseball & other arenas in th US!

BOB-bXu
July 2nd, 2008, 03:50 PM
This one coming to Butuan

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3007/2630408147_312b117b63_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3177/2630408049_2881551453_b.jpg

kiretoce
July 2nd, 2008, 04:36 PM
^^ Coming, when?

BOB-bXu
July 3rd, 2008, 06:26 AM
I'll post the official announcement once available :)

peejay202
July 5th, 2008, 10:04 AM
TACLOBAN CITY CONVENTION CENTER

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3105/2429281483_d86657ba5e.jpg?v=0

http://images.stievents.multiply.com/image/17/photos/6/600x600/25/Outside%20view%20Coliseum.jpg?et=Z14LKlh6dX%2Cjf%2B4xy0X1sw&nmid=20887678

http://images.trueprofit.multiply.com/image/9/photos/3/500x500/25/_MG_7986.JPG?et=UK88wk1u2jxQFrfvMvnAAg&nmid=58249708

Ibex
July 5th, 2008, 10:04 AM
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee201/klutz1030/Sports%20Complex/Picture1.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee201/klutz1030/Sports%20Complex/Picture2.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee201/klutz1030/Sports%20Complex/Picture6.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee201/klutz1030/Sports%20Complex/Picture5.jpg
Main Bleacher

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee201/klutz1030/Sports%20Complex/Picture7.jpg
Aquatic Center

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee201/klutz1030/Sports%20Complex/Picture3.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee201/klutz1030/Sports%20Complex/Picture9.jpg

"ZukiChirO"
July 5th, 2008, 10:22 AM
This one coming to Butuan

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3007/2630408147_312b117b63_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3177/2630408049_2881551453_b.jpg

hhhmmmm....i lilke the whoe design, but it will be bad if ang katabi nito ay ang mga houses sa Squatters area....any way where did you get this?

:):)

iamjomar
July 5th, 2008, 10:32 AM
^^wow that's grand!!!

ritche
July 5th, 2008, 12:35 PM
TACLOBAN CITY CONVENTION CENTER

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3105/2429281483_d86657ba5e.jpg?v=0

http://images.peejay202.multiply.com/image/5/photos/16/500x500/6/TCCC3.jpg?et=K7jJvRxUCz8qefTtKL%2Ca9Q&nmid=91121819

http://images.peejay202.multiply.com/image/5/photos/16/500x500/7/TCCC4.jpg?et=2Wuyee95s%2CJ%2C8Ighunb32w&nmid=91121819

http://images.stievents.multiply.com/image/17/photos/6/600x600/25/Outside%20view%20Coliseum.jpg?et=Z14LKlh6dX%2Cjf%2B4xy0X1sw&nmid=20887678

http://images.trueprofit.multiply.com/image/9/photos/3/500x500/25/_MG_7986.JPG?et=UK88wk1u2jxQFrfvMvnAAg&nmid=58249708

^Nice...

Waldenstrom
July 5th, 2008, 04:33 PM
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee201/klutz1030/Sports%20Complex/Picture1.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee201/klutz1030/Sports%20Complex/Picture2.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee201/klutz1030/Sports%20Complex/Picture6.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee201/klutz1030/Sports%20Complex/Picture5.jpg
Main Bleacher

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee201/klutz1030/Sports%20Complex/Picture7.jpg
Aquatic Center

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee201/klutz1030/Sports%20Complex/Picture3.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee201/klutz1030/Sports%20Complex/Picture9.jpg

Gorgeous!!!

Wolfranz
July 6th, 2008, 07:05 AM
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee201/klutz1030/Sports%20Complex/Picture1.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee201/klutz1030/Sports%20Complex/Picture2.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee201/klutz1030/Sports%20Complex/Picture6.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee201/klutz1030/Sports%20Complex/Picture5.jpg
Main Bleacher

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee201/klutz1030/Sports%20Complex/Picture7.jpg
Aquatic Center

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee201/klutz1030/Sports%20Complex/Picture3.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee201/klutz1030/Sports%20Complex/Picture9.jpg

Awesome, but i didn't like that much the steel rings supporting the main bleachers. It looks beautiful sana sa aquatics center & the other building, but sa main bleachers it appears fragile and excessive ang height. baka makadistract din ng view. opinion lang po.:) but overall, incredible

DexterTexter
July 6th, 2008, 07:34 PM
Davao City is sorely lacking in these sporting facilities and venues. I wish the local government gives a premium on sporting venues and exhibition centers soon.

kevinb
July 7th, 2008, 11:09 AM
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee201/klutz1030/Sports%20Complex/Picture1.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee201/klutz1030/Sports%20Complex/Picture2.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee201/klutz1030/Sports%20Complex/Picture6.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee201/klutz1030/Sports%20Complex/Picture5.jpg
Main Bleacher

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee201/klutz1030/Sports%20Complex/Picture7.jpg
Aquatic Center

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee201/klutz1030/Sports%20Complex/Picture3.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee201/klutz1030/Sports%20Complex/Picture9.jpg

This is so gorgeous!!!! The one in Butuan is pretty too. |I hope much of our stadia are like those, international standards in aesthetics. Aesthetics lang ung masasabi ko kasi hindi ko alam ung totoong standards eh. :lol: But these two are really grand. :okay:

frustratedarchitect
July 7th, 2008, 11:48 AM
:guns1:^^ very cool

Golf courses: CJH golf club and Baguio country club

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/1/671438_5b19b9fbb2.jpg?v=0

c/o: weird eye (flickr)

Baguio Country club

http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/8149/picture3037nl9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Camp John Hay golf club

urban Iegend
July 10th, 2008, 06:00 PM
balita ko pang palarong pambasa yang nasa Davao? sana ganun na dati nung maglaro kami :lol:

Tacloban City Convention Center
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9f/Taclobanconvention.JPG/800px-Taclobanconvention.JPG

tyronne
July 11th, 2008, 02:24 AM
Yung sa Davao, walang tennis courts?

vince_rilian
July 12th, 2008, 05:35 PM
and so i saw shocking news lately....

Sep. 10-14, 2008 --- Bicol Southern Tagalog (BST) Qualifying Games --- Trace College, Laguna (http://www.philolympicfestival.com/main_schedules.asp)

i first heard that it would be held at trace from a teammate of mine.... we were wondrin where the heck would they fit in a track oval at trace college, LB, campus.... our coach told us that a patafa official called her to ask if the presently used UPLB track oval could be renovated in time for the POF-BST-Qualifying or if the new track oval being built would make it in time (its right behind New Dorm, UPLB... this has been planned a long time ago, gumradweyt na ako di pa rin nagawa.... sinimulan pa lang....)....well, of course it was assumed won't make it...

and so we asked ourselves, if Trace College is indeed to host the entire POF-BST-Qualifying inside its LB campus, where would the track oval fit in!?!?!? Would the track events even be held at trace?? so we just assumed the news might be wrong, that only the aquatics events would be held at trace.... BUT NO!

from a november 2007 article:
Trace College chairman Ephraim Genuino has built Olympic-size pools and a track oval to accommodate these competitions. Aventajado revealed that in 2008, the Bicol-Southern Tagalog leg will be hosted not by the province of Laguna, but by Trace College, an institution in Laguna under the auspices of Genuino. “So much enthusiasm has already been generated by the Festival,” he beams, adding that in 2008, Gov. Oscar Moreno of Misamis Oriental has already volunteered to host the National Championships in his province. (http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/11222007/sports07.html)

ang tanong eh saan sa trace yung oval, gusto kong makatakbo naman dun!!! hehehehe..... i have a brochure and invitation letter from trace leisure club, which they sent to all faculty members of UPLB, to our surprise, and there's no mention of a track oval inside trace campus.... maybe they're referring to the new track oval in UPLB, that must have been really funded by Pagcor...(as rumors say so) and not trace.... hehehe (ang bitter ano?? ever since that sister school/private UP issue came out...)

kevinb
July 12th, 2008, 05:57 PM
^^ I really don't believe that Trace is a private UP. http://smilies.vidahost.com/cwm/cwm/uhoh3.gif

vince_rilian
July 12th, 2008, 06:32 PM
^^ only those who really deserve to go to TrAcE believe in such a statement....

UPDATE; I just learned, yung Track Oval nga sa likod ng New Dorm ay mismong funded by PAGCOR/Trace (read:Genuino!)... and it turns out that it will eventually by managed by Trace!!!!!!!!! lintik, nasa loob mismo yun ng UPLB, kung sila man ang mag mamanage, wag na wag nilang gagawing for exclusive use lang yon.... aba, magiging katulad yan ng aquatic center nila, semi-white elephant.......ang in the first place nasa UPLB yan.....

(talk about misplaced venues.... an aquatic center accessible via an alley and a track oval/partial stadium/grandstand in a far flung area of UPLB!!!)

as usual, something's fishy about this project, like their aquatic center before the sea games, its undertaking was like blackout.... no news except for a few hints, and then the rumors of it supposedly should have been built in UPLB, and now, this track oval...... again taking some of us by surprise....

SUV111
July 12th, 2008, 06:53 PM
Bacolod City Panaad Park and Stadium

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3168/2660743159_314e5b2538.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3058/2660766735_f61183c49c.jpg?v=0

bacolodchamp
July 12th, 2008, 06:54 PM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2381/2241239538_b82338fcaa.jpg?v=0
Photos from flickr by karate my sport


Panaad Park and Stadium
BACOLOD CITY, PHILIPPINES

its the most environment friendly sports complex in the country.

nicko
July 13th, 2008, 06:41 AM
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/4371/dsc00627uk6.jpg
Perdices Memorial Coliseum, Dumaguete

from ritche

axel(08)brixx
July 14th, 2008, 09:02 AM
Hayzz buti pa ang mga kapit bahay natin..may mga modern at world Class
na stadium..unlike us..

we had only..30,000 capacity:

http://www.carloricohermoso.net/images/random/SEA_track.jpg

skyscraper100
July 15th, 2008, 03:12 PM
Bacolod City Panaad Park and Stadium

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3168/2660743159_314e5b2538.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3058/2660766735_f61183c49c.jpg?v=0

i love the tree's around
and the roof of the stadium,i would love to go there.

brownman
July 16th, 2008, 04:00 AM
Wow that proposed sporting complex from Davao del Norte looks very modern. Very handsome. What would it's capacity be?

And the one from Butuan looks gorgeous as well.:)

dinabaw
July 16th, 2008, 05:40 AM
Wow that proposed sporting complex from Davao del Norte looks very modern. Very handsome. What would it's capacity be?

And the one from Butuan looks gorgeous as well.:)

20,000 ! :banana:

CAGi
July 16th, 2008, 05:54 PM
hmm..gnda nga kum merun tau world-class stadium..

aku ngaun ung thesis ko..sports training facility with school..

hehehe..kc ms mgnda bigyang pansin din ung development sa mga sports program..

hmm..sn ky pwd toh ilgay?!

hecky12
July 19th, 2008, 04:54 PM
On the question, can the Philippines host these events?!

Well, my answer is yes! the only problem is that we don't have a stadium yet. We really need to build large stadium like the one in Khalifa in Doha, Qatar or like the Bird's Nest in Beijing. How about the design of the stadium? i think they should contact the Filipino architect in Malaysia na gumawa ng design ng ilang parks dun. I saw him in one of Pinoy Meets World episode last year and his designs we're good enough.

And with that i think the rest will follow... after the 2005 SEAGames i realized that the Philippines should improved our sports facilities and build/make a venue for it.

Manila 2024 is just a bid! bidding process pa rin ang magsasabi kung sino ang maghohost sa 2024 olympics. On the contrary 2019 SEAGames is already scheduled for our country hindi na kailangan ng bidding process para dun kasi by alphabetical order ang hosting nun.

Ang 2018 Asian Games i think ay kailangan ng bidding process at sa tingin ko panahon na rin para maghost ulet tayo ng isang Asian Games.

In fact, in 2014 Asian Beach Games, Boracay was chosen by the olympic council of asia to host the games.

About the logos? simple the better ... the logo should contain a Philippine landmark, philippine flag colors, 3 stars and a sun and the olmypic rings.

hecky12
July 19th, 2008, 06:25 PM
http://bp3.blogger.com/_nSDYiLHBA4I/SH6vQmFd6DI/AAAAAAAAAmg/hdpjAoJmBMY/s320/MANILA-T.JPG

just saw this on the net... pwede na yung logo kaya lang nawala yung white triangle sa flag tapos isang kulay na lang dapat yung Manila 2024 text.

Culiat
July 19th, 2008, 10:15 PM
^^ nice

rover3
July 20th, 2008, 01:58 AM
http://bp3.blogger.com/_nSDYiLHBA4I/SH6vQmFd6DI/AAAAAAAAAmg/hdpjAoJmBMY/s320/MANILA-T.JPG

just saw this on the net... pwede na yung logo kaya lang nawala yung white triangle sa flag tapos isang kulay na lang dapat yung Manila 2024 text.

Uhmmm... per IOC rules, nothing can intertwine with their 5 rings. Those must be left clean.

How about a stylized 'jeepney'? That is MORE Manila than a moro vinta!!

hecky12
July 20th, 2008, 05:00 AM
you have a point rover. Pero malay natin makalusot diba kasi wala pa nakakagawa ng ganyan and besides this just only a logo for the bidding process. the logo for the actual host is different pa.. yata!

rover3
July 20th, 2008, 08:47 PM
you have a point rover. Pero malay natin makalusot diba kasi wala pa nakakagawa ng ganyan and besides this just only a logo for the bidding process. the logo for the actual host is different pa.. yata!

Nope. They jealousy guard their "intellectual property." Besides, you only get to use the rings when you make the short list and become a "Candidate City," NOT an Applicant City.

About 'palusot,' if they let one city get away with it, then why shouldn't they allow others to? So, the standard, INflexible rule is -- and you can understand since they are letting you use their symbol -- is: NOTHING touches the 5 rings.

JustHorace
July 21st, 2008, 02:38 AM
Here's a logo I made last summer while dreaming of a Manila event for 2028. Haha.

The logo's an eagle, and it's also a torch. The red part is the beak and the neck of the eagle, and at the same time, also the cone of the torch. The orange/yellow orange-colored parts are the eagle's head and the torch fire. It's just a bid logo though.

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/6549/manila2028smallva6.jpg

kiretoce
July 21st, 2008, 02:44 AM
^^ Cool! :okay:

le Reine
July 21st, 2008, 05:05 AM
nice one horace! like it, parang pro gumawa.

brownman
July 21st, 2008, 09:54 AM
Here's a logo I made last summer while dreaming of a Manila event for 2028. Haha.

The logo's an eagle, and it's also a torch. The red part is the beak and the neck of the eagle, and at the same time, also the cone of the torch. The orange/yellow orange-colored parts are the eagle's head and the torch fire. It's just a bid logo though.

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/6549/manila2028smallva6.jpg

Wow, good-looking logo Horace.:okay: Like it alot.

OtAkAw
July 21st, 2008, 03:29 PM
^^Nice logo! And the subtitle is so appropriate for the current time!

hecky12
July 21st, 2008, 05:22 PM
nice logo.. BUT you should remove the colors above the olympic rings.. and if its a bid logo you should state "APPLICANT CITY" not a candidate city diba?

it is more likely a "CANDIDATE CITY" logo na. so sana you did use philippine flag colors instead of yellow-orange /orange color.. it is more pinoy look when you use the pinoy flag colors.

i like your explanation with the eagle and torch but "EAGLE" was already used in 2005 seagames as a mascot.

rover3
July 21st, 2008, 05:25 PM
How many eagles are left in the Philippines?

hecky12
July 21st, 2008, 05:35 PM
@Justhorace

what about the 2018 Asian Games and 2019 SEAGames? do you have logos for that event?

hecky12
July 21st, 2008, 05:37 PM
How many eagles are left in the Philippines?

Philippine Eagle is already extinct.

rover3
July 21st, 2008, 05:43 PM
Philippine Eagle is already extinct.

So doesn't that make this much-praised logo attempt already... uhmm, outdated?

Not meaning to be a party-pooper, but since we're at it, the IOC also squelched candidate Chicago's earlier 'Torch' logo.

So I would say that logo is kinda dead even before it got outta the starting gate?

kiretoce
July 21st, 2008, 06:00 PM
Philippine Eagle is already extinct.

Who told you that? Some of the Davao forumers here will vehemently disagree with you on that one, bud. :ohno:

hecky12
July 21st, 2008, 06:22 PM
sorry about that.. its critically endangered.. my fault.. hehehe

Culiat
July 22nd, 2008, 03:47 AM
Astig yung kay Horace :D

vince_rilian
July 22nd, 2008, 06:26 PM
Here's a logo I made last summer while dreaming of a Manila event for 2028. Haha.

The logo's an eagle, and it's also a torch. The red part is the beak and the neck of the eagle, and at the same time, also the cone of the torch. The orange/yellow orange-colored parts are the eagle's head and the torch fire. It's just a bid logo though.

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/6549/manila2028smallva6.jpg
:banana:
Looks really great! You might wanna add that the Philippine Eagle is like a symbol of hope, while a torch would be like a beacon.... hence the logo would be symbolizing a beacon of hope??? hehehe :nuts:

maybe you could mix up the manila-city hall clock tower design by @ZukiChirO, incorporating the tower with the triple vertical lines formed with the letters "NIL"..... wala lang, hehehe :)

however, the 2028 date falls on an election year (if the constitution still isn't replaced by then) IMO, the olympics would be a bit harder to organize on an election year.... maybe 2032.... (IMHO, 2024 sounds a bit too early....) but then again, 2028 falls on the 130th anniv. of philippine independence

^^Nice logo! And the subtitle is so appropriate for the current time!

Yeah! Love to hear that "Imagine it Ours"

and if the bid wins, it might become: "Our Game" (sounds non-exclusive to non-filipinos, like manila is sharing the games to the world... hehehe)

So doesn't that make this much-praised logo attempt already... uhmm, outdated?

Not meaning to be a party-pooper, but since we're at it, the IOC also squelched candidate Chicago's earlier 'Torch' logo.

So I would say that logo is kinda dead even before it got outta the starting gate?

huh? :ohno:

Culiat
July 23rd, 2008, 03:50 AM
^^ and to add on that eagle, given the fact that (presently)the Philippine Eagle faces a grave danger of extinction, if by the time we host the Olympics we are successful in preserving them and in removing them from the endangered species list eh it would be a great symbol of redeeming our glory as a great nation.

oinks
July 23rd, 2008, 04:04 AM
Eto pinoy na pinoy... Typical Government posters. :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v469/oreo1684/LorenOlympics.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v469/oreo1684/BayaniOlympics-1.jpg

Syempre hindi mawawala ang mga mukha sa logo. hahaha... By that time siguro sila na ang President/ Vice President..

Go BF!! :banana:

rover3
July 23rd, 2008, 04:59 AM
Eto pinoy na pinoy... Typical Government posters. :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v469/oreo1684/LorenOlympics.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v469/oreo1684/BayaniOlympics-1.jpg

Syempre hindi mawawala ang mga mukha sa logo. hahaha... By that time siguro sila na ang President/ Vice President..

Go BF!! :banana:

He he he. Except that the IOC would not approve their rings be attached to anything other than the Olympic Games (and anything officially sanctioned). Not even close.

barukdok
July 23rd, 2008, 05:47 AM
dapat tarsier ang logo. dalawa sa rings ng olympics symbol swak sa mata :D

JustHorace
July 23rd, 2008, 12:31 PM
^^Nice idea. Cute.

@Kuya Kimber, HRH XP, brownman, Otakaw, hecky, Kuya Kirby, and Vince_Rilian: Thanks! Never thought it would get this much praise. Hehehe.

@Hecky: I also thought of putting the national colors in. But you know, red, blue, and white aren't that good of a color combination. Well, not always at least. Hehehe. Thanks though. :D I can't think of what to put for the SEA and Asian Games. Di bale, next time I skip class. Oops. :P

@oinks: Nice one!! Ang desperado na talaga ng mga pulitiko natin pag nangyari pa yan! :))

hecky12
July 23rd, 2008, 04:07 PM
@horace
- your very welcome at least you take my points.. revised mo lang yung logo oks na oks na yun. or why not try to go to www.olympic.ph baka makakuha ka ng idea dun.

@oinks
- wag naman mukha ni legarda... baka ang mag opening number niyan sa 2028 e puro NPA, Abu Sayyaf, MILF, MNLF....

-bayani's face not agree as well.... why not put the face's of cardinal sin and cory aquino and ninoy.... hahahah siguradong hindi na tayo paghohostin pag sila ang mga mukhang nailagay diyan.

marchitecto
July 23rd, 2008, 04:34 PM
Here's a logo I made last summer while dreaming of a Manila event for 2028. Haha.

The logo's an eagle, and it's also a torch. The red part is the beak and the neck of the eagle, and at the same time, also the cone of the torch. The orange/yellow orange-colored parts are the eagle's head and the torch fire. It's just a bid logo though.

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/6549/manila2028smallva6.jpg

^^the color pallete makes it look Spanish (flag). change the color to red-blue-yellow and it will be perfect.
nice!:)

kiretoce
July 23rd, 2008, 04:47 PM
^^ :lol: Then that would make it Romanian. ;)

http://z.about.com/d/goeasteurope/1/5/x/2/-/-/RomaniaFlag.jpg

mygz14
July 23rd, 2008, 05:07 PM
Here's a logo I made last summer while dreaming of a Manila event for 2028. Haha.

The logo's an eagle, and it's also a torch. The red part is the beak and the neck of the eagle, and at the same time, also the cone of the torch. The orange/yellow orange-colored parts are the eagle's head and the torch fire. It's just a bid logo though.

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/6549/manila2028smallva6.jpg

Cool logo

oinks
July 24th, 2008, 05:46 AM
Nainspire ako kay horace heheh. :D Mejo hindi nga bagay ang red blue and yellow. Parang gamit na gamit na. Kaya pure yellow-orange ang napili ko. Since, 2024 is for summer olympics, gusto ko ma-emphasize na sobrang init sa Pinas, and of course, that Philippines is the best place for summer! :lol:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v469/oreo1684/ManilaOlympics-Sun2.jpg

Eto mas simple...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v469/oreo1684/ManilaOlympics-Plain3.jpg

Mali pala yung date, 2024 pala. :lol:

Askal82
July 24th, 2008, 05:51 AM
Eto pinoy na pinoy... Typical Government posters. :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v469/oreo1684/LorenOlympics.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v469/oreo1684/BayaniOlympics-1.jpg

Syempre hindi mawawala ang mga mukha sa logo. hahaha... By that time siguro sila na ang President/ Vice President..

Go BF!! :banana:


My attention zoned in on Loren Legarda's background photo. :lol:

oinks
July 24th, 2008, 05:57 AM
hehehh. kulang pa nga yan e, dapat nakalagay din yung mga projects sa pagtulong sa mga mahihirap. :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v469/oreo1684/LorenOlympics23copy.jpg

hecky12
July 24th, 2008, 07:49 AM
^^ :lol: Then that would make it Romanian. ;)

http://z.about.com/d/goeasteurope/1/5/x/2/-/-/RomaniaFlag.jpg


just don't forget 3 stars and a sun... right?!

ogiñi_ocram
July 24th, 2008, 08:07 AM
that's real nice horace
2 thumbs-up

rover3
July 24th, 2008, 04:34 PM
Nainspire ako kay horace heheh. :D Mejo hindi nga bagay ang red blue and yellow. Parang gamit na gamit na. Kaya pure yellow-orange ang napili ko. Since, 2024 is for summer olympics, gusto ko ma-emphasize na sobrang init sa Pinas, and of course, that Philippines is the best place for summer! :lol:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v469/oreo1684/ManilaOlympics-Sun2.jpg

Mali pala yung date, 2024 pala. :lol:

Kinda like this? :)

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y182/templar3/LA_2016logo.jpg

You don't need the country on there NOR those slogans. They clutter up the logos.

urban Iegend
July 26th, 2008, 06:07 AM
Leyte wins bid to host next year's Palarong Pambansa

TACLOBAN CITY- After 25 years, the country’s premier national sporting event, the Palarong Pambansa, will be held again in this city.

This after the bid of the provincial government of Leyte won the bidding for the hosting of next year’s Palarong Pambansa with no less than Governor Carlos Jericho “Icot” Petilla personally witnessing the announcement yesterday afternoon at the central office of the Department of Education.
This after the bid of the provincial government of Leyte won the bidding for the hosting of next year’s Palarong Pambansa with no less than Governor Carlos Jericho “Icot” Petilla personally witnessing the announcement yesterday afternoon at the central office of the Department of Education.

“We don’t expect to win as it was really a close fight,” the governor, reached on his mobile phone minutes after the 5 p.m. announcement, said.

Dumaguete City and the provincial government of Capiz, both in Western Visayas, also joined the bidding for the hosting of the 2009 Palarong Pambansa.

It was learned from the governor that out of the 16 directors who joined in yesterday’s voting, Leyte garnered eight votes while Dumaguete got seven and Capiz, one vote.

The only other time that the national games was held in the region was in 1983 which was held at the Grandstand, renamed as Leyte Development Sports complex, located this city.

Governor Petilla said that he was happy that the bid of Leyte won as this would mean windfall of benefits.

“This will put Leyte in the national map. Also, this will help boosts our tourism industry which has been one of my priorities as a governor,” he said.

On top of this, the thousands of visitors coming from the 16 regions of the country would also help prop up the local economy, the Leyte governor said. The Palarong Pambansa is a one-week event participated in by students from the elementary and secondary schools.

The governor had earlier said that he would exert all his effort to make the bidding successful. The city government had earlier communicated to Education Secretary Jesli Lapus on its desire not to join in the bidding for the national event.

For the hosting, the provincial government has set aside an initial amount of P50 million which would be used for the renovation of the Grandstand or Leyte Sports Development Sports Complex.

But the national government, through the DepEd, is expected to extend financial assistance for the event, the governor said.

With Leyte hosting the national games, the main venue of the event, the Grandstand, is expected to undergo a major rehabilitation. Petilla said that with a new Grandstand, schools located nearby could use it for their activities.

The governor said that the reason why the bidding of Leyte won over the two other contenders could be because of its location.

“Our location, which is along the Maharlika Highway, clinched for us to win in the bidding. It would be easy for other delegations coming from different parts of the country to come. Second, our billeting areas are also ready,” Petilla said, referring to schools where the close to 10,000 delegates would be housed.

The governor then called for the entire people of Leyte as well as the region to make their own contribution in making the national games a success.

“National media would be coming here to cover the event. Whatever (negative) things that they would witness would be highlighted, “he said.

By JOEY A. GABIETA
Staff Writer

kiretoce
July 26th, 2008, 05:25 PM
^^ Hmm....interesting, didn't know they have hosting bids for those Games.

isagani
July 27th, 2008, 08:42 AM
Does anybody know whatever came out of the plans to build an Olympic-class sports complex/stadium in the reclaimed area near where the SM Mall of Asia now stands?

blueguy
July 27th, 2008, 09:19 AM
^^

I guess September ma construct

hecky12
July 28th, 2008, 11:15 AM
just wanna share lang the logos in the past olympics. kasi diba sabi niyo the olympic rings should be clean at hindi siya nakahalo. eto yung na research ko na ibang logo editions na nakahalo yung rings sa logo..in short pwede pala yung nakahalo yung rings..or dati okay pa yung ganito ngayon bawal na.

http://www.aldaver.com/Images/Os/lg1932sm.gifhttp://www.aldaver.com/Images/Os/lg1936sm.gifhttp://www.aldaver.com/Images/Os/lg1948sm.gif

http://www.aldaver.com/Images/Os/lg1952sm.gifhttp://www.aldaver.com/Images/Os/lg1956sm.gif

http://www.aldaver.com/Images/Os/lg1968sm.jpg
http://www.aldaver.com/Images/Os/lg1976sm2.gif

rover3
July 28th, 2008, 02:14 PM
^^ Why did I think you would bring that up?

Hecky, those are the OLDER logos -- before the IOC streamlined its act. If you will look at the logos of the last 20 years or so, the IOC has decreed that their 5 rings (now registered as an Int'l trademark) be free of other elements. (Montreal might've been the last one where the rings touched another element and was rendered only in 1 color. And so, the next Olympic Games right after that -- Lake Placid 1980 might've been the first one with the 'no touch' policy applied, if I'm not mistaken.)

Also, today, the rings 'generally' must show the 5 colors at least in the principal logo version. You can see this with any logos of the Worldwide Olympic Partners: Samsung, McDonald's, Coke, etc., currently.

I'm sure you can find the logos of Sarajevo - LA 1984, etc., moving forward.

hecky12
July 28th, 2008, 04:24 PM
yup yup! that's what ive said... before it was okay pa but now bawal na. na i-share ko lang. btw, is this the logo your saying?

http://www.aldaver.com/Images/Os/lg1984sm.jpg

hecky12
July 28th, 2008, 04:44 PM
just wanna share lang yung mga candidate city logos for the 2016. They were the finalists for the 2016. Whom do you think will win the hosting job in 2016? for me Japan has a big chance to host!

http://www.aldaver.com/Images/Osb/16/lg2016cc.jpghttp://www.aldaver.com/Images/Osb/16/lg2016mc.jpghttp://www.aldaver.com/Images/Osb/16/lg2016rc.jpghttp://www.aldaver.com/Images/Osb/16/lg2016tc.jpg

these are the logos naman for non-selected applicant cities.

http://www.aldaver.com/Images/Osb/16/lg2016bk.jpg
http://www.aldaver.com/Images/Osb/16/lg2016dh.jpg
http://www.aldaver.com/Images/Osb/16/lg2016pr.jpg

BoNduRanT
July 28th, 2008, 04:56 PM
2016 is too soon for another Asian city after Beijing. I hope 2016 goes to Rio. Its about time the olympics go to South America

tigidig14
July 28th, 2008, 05:26 PM
i say chicago hehe .theres a big chance that ill be sad if not chosen; otherwise, ill go w/ rio

hecky12
July 28th, 2008, 05:32 PM
2012 is scheduled for London so there's 1 olympic gap for the asian country. Saka malakas ang laban ng Japan ngayon kasi panahon nila e. Maganda ang political status ng Japan so may laban sila and to think parang yun ang nagigin basehan sa ngayon.. kung hindi maganda ang economy.. wala..

These are the scores in the first round of voting..
Japan 8.3
Spain 8.1
USA 7.0
Rio 6.4

hecky12
July 28th, 2008, 05:40 PM
Evaluation of applicant cities

"Through analysis of the questionnaires, the IOC gave a weighted-average score to each city based on the scores obtained in each of the questionnaire's eleven themes: political and social support, general infrastructure, sports venues, Olympic Village, environment, accommodation, transport, security, past experience, finance, and legacy.

If a bid's score was higher than six (IOC's predefined benchmark score), the city was considered highly capable of hosting the Games; otherwise, its chances were very slim."

Now i understand Manila2024 is too early for the Philippines! We should have more experiences in hosting such events. May be we could host an Asian Games again, FIFA events, and other Grand Slam sports na pwede nating i-host then numbers na mismo ang magsasabi kung karapat dapat tayong maghost ng Olympics. Maybe we could host Manila2032 by that time well establish na siguro ang pinas and im 50y/o by that time.. :ohno:

tigidig14
July 28th, 2008, 05:44 PM
so its bidding, not hat raffle
kinda look corny, kung mapupunta sa japan. kagagaling nga lang sa china. ano naman ang susunod taipei hehe

kiretoce
July 28th, 2008, 05:46 PM
MANILA

- political and social support :down:
- general infrastructure :down:
- sports venues :down:
- Olympic Village :down:
- environment :down:
- accommodation :down:
- transport :down:
- security :down:
- past experience :down:
- finance :down:
- legacy :down:

(This rating is by today's current state of the Philippines.)

hecky12
July 28th, 2008, 05:49 PM
May isang olympic gap pa, may 2012 pa, so pwedeng mabalik sa asia ang hosting nito. Meron pa nga sunod sunod ang hosting ng Europe..

sana nga sa Rio mapunta diba. pero first round pa lang lamang na Japan. Sa October 2009 na ilalabas ang result.

hecky12
July 28th, 2008, 05:54 PM
MANILA

- political and social support :down:
- general infrastructure :down:
- sports venues :down:
- Olympic Village :down:
- environment :down:
- accommodation :down:
- transport :down:
- security :down:
- past experience :down:
- finance :down:
- legacy :down:

(This rating is by today's current state of the Philippines.)

make a thumbs up for the past experience. we have naman at least an experience in hosting. or maybe neutral sign if there is.. hehehe...

i must say, siguro hindi pa pinapanganak yung presidente ng pilipinas na kung saan magiging host ang pinas sa panahon niya. or pinanganak na siguro pero mahaba haba pa ang aantayin natin.

tigidig14
July 28th, 2008, 05:57 PM
^sana nagbid tayo nung 70s, malakas pa hatak ni marcos sa mundo nung mga panahong yun,

kung mapipili sa chicago yung 2016, yung isang coliseum dun itatayo sa backyard ng skwela namin sabi ng provost

hecky12
July 28th, 2008, 06:02 PM
hehehe... kaya pala gusto mo kasi sa likod lang ng school mo.. hehehe... during marcos time naman sa beauty pageant humataw ng husto ang pinas.. yun kasi yearly naman yun e ang olympics naman kasi every 4yrs.

the time na naghost tayo ng Asian Games before e terrific yun.. swerte nung mga buhay na nun.. kaya lang hindi nasegundahan e.. hindi nagpatayo ng stadium etc..

tigidig14
July 28th, 2008, 06:10 PM
Baku,Azerbaijani

ang lakas ng loob ng city nito, ni di ko ma pronounce yung bansa

hecky12
July 28th, 2008, 06:46 PM
at least they tried.. kasi maaalala agad ang country nila na once they tried to bid the olympics kumbaga credits na agad yun e kahit talo sila diba.. (pronouce as A-SER-BY-DIYAN) hahaha.. natawa ako sa sinulat ko...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d9/Beijingolympicsmedals.jpg

The 2008 Olympic Medals

ang simple lang ng medal no?!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3a/Fuwa.png

The 2008 Mascots
Left to Right:
Name: BeiBei
Gender: Female
Olympic Ring: Blue
Element: Water
Represented Sport: Aquatics

Name: Jingjing
Gender: Male
Olympic Ring: Black
Element: Wood
Represented Sport: Weightlifting, Judo, etc..

Name: Huanhuan
Gender: Male
Olympic Ring: Red
Element: Fire
Represented Sport: Ball sports

Name: Yingying
Gender: Male
Olympic Ring: Yellow
Element: Earth
Represented Sport: Track and Field

Name: Nini
Gender: Female
Olympic Ring: Green
Element: Air
Represented Sport: Gymnastics

kiretoce
July 28th, 2008, 07:11 PM
Baku,Azerbaijani

ang lakas ng loob ng city nito, ni di ko ma pronounce yung bansa

It's pronounced ah-zer-bahy-jahn. :colgate:

rover3
July 28th, 2008, 07:56 PM
yup yup! that's what ive said... before it was okay pa but now bawal na. na i-share ko lang. btw, is this the logo your saying?

http://www.aldaver.com/Images/Os/lg1984sm.jpg

Yes, that's one of them. (For me, still one of the best 'Olympic' logos.)

The IOC home page has a section showing all the logos, mascots, torches, etc.

Also, if you want to understand and engage in the Olympic bidding process more, check out this website:

http://www.gamesbids.com/forums/index.php?act=idx

There are a number of people there who have worked on previous bids and have IOC connections -- so it's more than your average forum. Piece of advice: nearly everything has already been covered including discussions of a Manila bid. Research the archives to find the subject you're interested in before opening up a new thread.

rover3
July 28th, 2008, 08:01 PM
2016 is too soon for another Asian city after Beijing. I hope 2016 goes to Rio. Its about time the olympics go to South America

U're quite right. The main counts against Tokyo 2016 are that:

1. Beijing 2008 would be just 2 Olympics past. Too soon for Asia again.

2. Of the four 2016 finalists, Tokyo is the only one that has hosted before -- so that puts it at a disadvantage.

Just a brief word about the selection process:

The 'Short List' (the finalists) is decided by the Technical Committee which removes the candidates that are realistically not ready for the job (so in the 2016 case, Baku, Doha and Prague's bids were technically judged inferior to the remaining 4 -- altho Doha ranked higher than Rio...but that's another story and there's always an exception to every rule).

So when the IOC convenes in Copenhagen next year for their 2009 Session, the whole IOC body (roughly 110 members) vote on the selection of the new host city. (IOC members from the finalist cities CANNOT vote in the election until their city has been eliminated.)

But really, for anyone more interested in the subject, go to the Gamesbids link I furnished above.

rover3
July 28th, 2008, 08:24 PM
make a thumbs up for the past experience. we have naman at least an experience in hosting. or maybe neutral sign if there is.. hehehe...



What counts for "past organizing experience" in Olympic terms are something of a truly international event(s) comparable in scale to an Olympics. So either:

- a previous regional Games (Asian, PanAm, All-African, Commonwealth, etc.) (an ASEAN Games might be considered too small)
- a FIFA World Cup; or
- an IAAF World Championships (on the odd years. Next one is in Berlin 2009.); or a
- a world-class Expo.

Needless to say, they must be successful stagings. Hindi papasa iyong OK lang or pwede na.

hecky12
July 29th, 2008, 04:18 AM
@rover
masyado mo naman dinelikado yung past experience.. at least we have hosted 2nd Asian Games, 1981, 1991, and 2005 SEAGames... AT LEAST... i said AT LEAST.. kaya nga sabi ko rin 2024 is too early for P.I. to host the olympics we need to host another Asian Games or maybe Asian Indoor Games, basta lahat ng minor at major sporting events...

pero kung sarado ang isip ng ilan walang katuparan sa pinas ang maghost.

hecky12
July 29th, 2008, 04:25 AM
Hecky, those are the OLDER logos -- before the IOC streamlined its act. If you will look at the logos of the last 20 years or so, the IOC has decreed that their 5 rings (now registered as an Int'l trademark) be free of other elements. (Montreal might've been the last one where the rings touched another element and was rendered only in 1 color.

Also, today, the rings 'generally' must show the 5 colors at least in the principal logo version. You can see this with any logos of the Worldwide Olympic Partners: Samsung, McDonald's, Coke, etc., currently.

http://www.aldaver.com/Images/Os/logo2012.jpg

what abou this one? is this the final logo for the 2012?

kiretoce
July 29th, 2008, 04:33 AM
^^ :lol: That London 2012 logo caused quite a stir with the public a while back. Almost every one hated it, and have you seen the animated version? That one was a hoot! :okay:

tigidig14
July 29th, 2008, 04:43 AM
corny, nabigay na pala dati sa london yung olympics, bat dun ulit, luto

rover3
July 29th, 2008, 04:43 AM
http://www.aldaver.com/Images/Os/logo2012.jpg

what abou this one? is this the final logo for the 2012?

That "London 2012" logo is a new thing. The fill-in is going to change and it supposedly will be an "inter-active" logo ... whatever that means.

rover3
July 29th, 2008, 04:48 AM
corny, nabigay na pala dati sa london yung olympics, bat dun ulit, luto

That batch was London, Madrid, Moscow, New York and Paris -- perhaps the most AAA-list of Olympic bidding cities ever. London and Paris were the frontrunners, and each having hosted 2 past SOGs each, they were on equal footing in that regard.

Moscow was eliminated first. Followed by New York; then Madrid; until the finalists were "A Tale of Two Cites" -- the 2 leading Euro cities: London and Paris. But in the homestretch, the Brits, led by the London big chairman, Sebastian Coe, waged a dynamic campaign that energized and motivated the IOC to vote them 54-50 over Paris in the final vote.

Winning the honor is part geo-politics, part-luck, part-timing, and part campaigning.

tigidig14
July 29th, 2008, 05:00 AM
how many organization, committee?, people that vote for olympic?

rover3
July 29th, 2008, 05:20 AM
@rover
masyado mo naman dinelikado yung past experience.. at least we have hosted 2nd Asian Games, 1981, 1991, and 2005 SEAGames... AT LEAST... i said AT LEAST.. kaya nga sabi ko rin 2024 is too early for P.I. to host the olympics we need to host another Asian Games or maybe Asian Indoor Games, basta lahat ng minor at major sporting events...

pero kung sarado ang isip ng ilan walang katuparan sa pinas ang maghost.

Hecky, if you (a city) want to play with the big boys (the New Yorks, Paris's, Londons, Rios of the world) and have Olympic rings in your eyes, you have to be very sure of your cards because it is NOT going to be cheap -- just to try to win the bid. It is very mahal!!

Consider: the first application fee, I believe is $150,000. If you are picked as a finalist, it goes up to $500,000.

The actual campaign costs. The U.S. Olympic Committee originally wanted its finalist cities for this 2016 round to have some $35 million as a warchest, based on what New York spent for its fruitless 2012 campaign. In this round, Chicago spent some $9.2 mil just for the DOMESTIC part of the campaign -- to best L.A. and be the US rep. Having spent that, it is budgeting an additional $40 mil for the final and international part of the campaign. Those finalists are all budgeting about that amount for the final phase.

For the Winter Games, with a far smaller pool of candidates, Sochi (Russia) was rumored to have spent $50 mil to beat South Korea (PyongChang) and Salzburg, Austria, to stage the 2014 Winter Games.

So I am not being "delikado" about past hosting experience that will go on your bid resume. You have to have solid credentials if you don't want to throw away $40-50 million just to be in the running!!

Even all the money in the world cannot buy a bid. Doha, Qatar, getting a much better technical score than Rio, was nonetheless cut off because:

(1) the time period it offered for the Games was outside the IOC's preferred time window;

(2) Doha's heat had something to do with it; and

(3) Doha -- and you know they can outspend China for the most state-of-the-art facilities -- could not guarantee a completely secure Games from those mga sira-ulong Arabos.

So, dreaming of winning and hosting a Games is the easy side of the equation. Actually going in there to compete against world-class cities with more temperate climates is another thing. Notice that no city in the world's equatorial belt has ever hosted an Olympic Games, Winter or Summer.

hecky12
July 29th, 2008, 05:25 AM
^^ :lol: That London 2012 logo caused quite a stir with the public a while back. Almost every one hated it, and have you seen the animated version? That one was a hoot! :okay:


i think i've seen the animation.. not sure.. but ill try to look at it...

hecky12
July 29th, 2008, 05:26 AM
corny, nabigay na pala dati sa london yung olympics, bat dun ulit, luto


kaya nga malaki ang advantage ng mga past host cities.. third time na ng london.

hecky12
July 29th, 2008, 05:27 AM
how many organization, committee?, people that vote for olympic?

i dont know kung ilang yung nagbobotohan... parang may nabasa ako na 110? not sure kung yun yung mga voters... hindi ko na maalala..

kiretoce
July 29th, 2008, 06:21 AM
Notice that no city in the world's equatorial belt has ever hosted an Olympic Games, Winter or Summer.

A city on the equator will never be able to host an Olympic Winter Games. It's a physical impossibility.

rover3
July 29th, 2008, 07:22 AM
A city on the equator will never be able to host an Olympic Winter Games. It's a physical impossibility.

I know that. I was using a hyperbolic figure of speech. :ohno:

hecky12
July 29th, 2008, 10:15 AM
pwede rin mag host ng winter ang pinas... sa baguio dapat ang lahat ng venues.. hehehe.. makikita mo yung stadium nasa tuktok ng bundok..

hecky12
July 29th, 2008, 10:49 AM
so leyte won the bid? ang alam ko sa ilocos norte gagawin ang palarong pambansa next year..

hecky12
July 29th, 2008, 10:54 AM
Rizal Stadium in Manila should have a major renovation maganda ang kinalalagyan nyang area so sana mapaalis o marelocate yung mga squats sa likod ng stadium...

fil07
July 29th, 2008, 01:13 PM
London should have tried youth olympics if they are dedicating the Games to the youth.

Xeltran
July 29th, 2008, 01:54 PM
If Tokyo's going to get the bid for 2016, I'm all for it!
I visited the Tokyo Metropolitan Building in Shinjuku last May, and yep, even as early as today, they're already improving the Tokyo Olympic Stadium. Besides, I don't think it's really a too-early-for-another-Asian-country-to-host thing. And so far, only Japan, South Korea, and the PRC are the Asian countries that hosted the Summer and Winter (excpet for the PRC) Olympics.

@Manila 2024
NO NO NO! It's still to early. I don't think we'll even get past the elimination because of past exp and infra.

hecky12
July 29th, 2008, 04:12 PM
but look at Baku, Ajerbaijan... they tried but they failed.. at least they tried and one big accomplishment na yung mag try ka sa bidding. hindi naman kawalan yung mag try diba...

anyways, have you heard the news? Akiko Thompson is now PSC Chairman.. hope she'll do something about PSC...

kiretoce
July 29th, 2008, 04:24 PM
^^ Azerbaijan had the money to spend on their Olympic bid, compare that to the Philippines which has nil.

rover3
July 29th, 2008, 06:30 PM
London should have tried youth olympics if they are dedicating the Games to the youth.

Nah...the Youth Olympics are going first to Singapore. The senior Olympics are more or less reserved for the Alpha cities of the world. Beta cities could go for the Youth Olympics (i.e., Singapore); and Kappa or Delta cities (sorry, Manila) could just try to go for the IOC Congresses. All that needs is a few major hotels and a fairly decent convention center -- but it gets a fair amount of publciity and press.

So unlike the regular Olympics, you don't have to spend isang-katutak for stadia and arenas that'll be white elephants after the Games...or dirty white elephants, in Manila's case, given the smog and sooty air of the Philippine capital. :)

Hecky, iyong Winter Games idea for Baguio, I believe that insane Imelda Marcos actually thought of it. Since she was able to successfully transport white sand for various beaches, she thought snow could actually be hauled in to blanket Baguio hillsides, and then she could cavort and frolic really chic-ly with the Gstaad crowd (i.e., Jean-Claude Killy) in chic winter outfits. The idea was not too far removed from her 'hole-in-the-ozone' theory. :ohno:

I believe she could see herself opening a Philippine Winter Games in a chic woolen terno-ski suit. :lol:

rover3
July 29th, 2008, 06:41 PM
[SIZE="3"]but look at Baku, Ajerbaijan... they tried but they failed.. at least they tried and one big accomplishment na yung mag try ka sa bidding. hindi naman kawalan yung mag try diba...

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Oo nga, but they really only got as far as the Applicant stage. Kung hanggang doon lang, eh, what's the point?

I mean I dunno -- you maybe want to spend some US$5 million (a very rough guess on my part) (that's not your money), only to hear the words: Sorry, boss, hindi puede. Madaming kulang. ? :ohno:

Then, why even bother?

NOT TO MENTION: having something like an Olympics in Manila, with a few hundred contracts for bid to be handed out, is an OPEN INVITATION to probably the LARGEST CASE of MASS graft and corruption in history.

* Can you imagine the bribes, kickbacks, and short-cuts in construction, etc., etc., that will be generated with something as large as an Olympics? :ohno:

* It will be a bottomless pit and morass; and will require a whole, new judicial system to sort it out when all is said and done. :ohno: :ohno:

* It would make the cumulative crimes of the Marcos administration look like a lark in the park. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:

An Olympics in the Philippines would have far more negatives than positives for the country.

It would probably RUIN the country.

Bottom line: Manila is a chaotic, dirty, polluted, over-built, undisciplined metropolis to be even seriously considered for the Short List. And the Philippines is NOT the country to spend for non-essential, prestige projects like an Olympics.

Let others spend for it.

hecky12
July 30th, 2008, 05:45 AM
wala namang masa kung mag try diba.. kung hindi palarin e di mas okay mas makakapagprepare pa.. kesa naman yung sobrang handa na tapos reject lang.. e di mas sobra yun diba..

alam mo yung mga kickbacks kasama na yan..hindi mawawala yan.. sa simpleng ice candy na 5pesos kung ibenta ang kickback dun ay dos. hindi lang sa pinas ngyayari yan.

as i've said magtry mag bid... pero siempre bago yan magtayo muna ng stadium at kung sa tingin ng mga namumuno na okay na then proceed.. kung hindi palarin o swertehin e di okay lang.. at least nakapagpatayo kana at ang next dun ay mag imbita or magbid ng mga sporting events. and with that... unti unti diba...

kasi kung gagawing kumplikado ang isang SIMPLENG sitwasyon.. walang mangyayari.. oo nga hindi ko pera yung gagastusin dun.. pero its about time to spend something in sports.. kung yung maliit na pagasa na yun ng mga athletes e mawawala pa san na lang pupulutin ang mga atletang pinoy diba? mas gugustuhin na nilang irepresent ang ibang bansa kesa sa pinas dahil walang facility.. yun MALAMANG ang magiging reason nila at yun na nga ang nagiging dahilan ng iba. sa panahon din ngayon marami ng narerecruit na fil-am athletes and willing to represent the country. pinoys and fil-ams want something big e.. hindi yung kalat kalat sila.. know what i mean.. yung nasa isang lugar lang sila lahat..

saka, kung polluted sa manila then why not build it sa province.. like yung ginawa sa thailand last seagames they build a stadium sa province.. diba? kung masisingle out lang ang metro manila for pollution e di sa probinsya magtayo.. makapagpatayo lang. ang lalawak ng lupain sa probinsya at hindi naman sasakupin ng stadium ang buong pilipinas..

rover3
July 30th, 2008, 07:21 AM
^^ Apparently, my posts didn't make an impression on you.

(BTW, I can't read most of your posts. I have a hard time reading a lot of Tagalog -- and I don't have the patience to plough thru it. )

Dreaming about being able to host an Olympics is very energizing -- but the cold reality is entirely different.

Best of luck.

Xeltran
July 30th, 2008, 02:46 PM
Well, yeah, eventhough we'll say that the political and economic situation of Manila will change by then, we're talking also about culture here, people! Think about the people residing in Manila in the first place. Trashtalkers, drug addicts, the urban poor, rallyists, thieves, people who piss and make "dura" anywhere, and a bunch of other not-so-great elements literally thrive in Manila. I don't want to sound so pessimistic, but hello, that's actually the reality.

boy muscovado
July 30th, 2008, 04:31 PM
^^ Hmm....interesting, didn't know they have hosting bids for those Games.

Its taking turns actually. this year its Luzon, then next year it would be the Visayas, next year it would be Mindanao. But there are cases when this is not followed due to inadequacy or inavailablility of a hosting venue.

1991 - Iloilo City
1992 - Zamboanga City
1993 - Ilagan (?)
1994 - Cebu City
1995 - General Santos
1996 - Dagupan (?)
1997 - Naga (?)
1998 - Bacolod
1999 - Tubod
2000 - Bacolod (no available site)

sorry but I kinda forgot the hosts....he he he he

rover3
July 30th, 2008, 04:55 PM
BTW, this may be my last post on this topic. Some people here are NOT realistic.

So, as a parting gift to this thread, I present you a preview of the Beijing 2008 Opening Ceremony. Incheck :lol: mo itong link na ito.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=674864

marchitecto
July 30th, 2008, 06:30 PM
^^ Apparently, my posts didn't make an impression on you.

(BTW, I can't read most of your posts. I have a hard time reading a lot of Tagalog -- and I don't have the patience to plough thru it. )

Dreaming about being able to host an Olympics is very energizing -- but the cold reality is entirely different.

Best of luck.

Isn't it that Beijing was like that BEFORE?:ohno::ohno:
Yet now they're hosting the OLYMPICS.

isagani
July 31st, 2008, 03:36 PM
The hosting schedule of the Palarong Pambansa is a bit erratic, with many times the host cities or DECS postponing/cancelling/pulling out of the Palaro. There are certain instances where any city regardless of location would be chosen, because it is the only one which offered to host the Palaro. As for the general rule, since the Palaro's revival in 1988 it goes Luzon-Visayas-Luzon-Mindanao. (See the pattern from 1992-1998 and 2005 onwards.)

As the Bureau of Public Schools Interscholastic Athletic Association (BPSIAA)
1948 - Manila
1949 - Tuguegarao
1950 - Davao City
1951 - ??
1952 - Legazpi
1953 - Vigan
1954 - Cebu City
1955 - ??
1956 - Batangas City
1957-1968 - ??
1969 - Pili
1970-1973 - ??

As Palarong Pambansa
1974 - ??
1975 - Cagayan de Oro
1976 - Lucena
1977 - Bacolod
1978 - ??
1979 - Bacolod
1980 - *postponed* (was to be held in Tuguegarao)
1981 - Tuguegarao
1982 - Dipolog
1983 - Tacloban
1984 to 1987 - *cancelled*
1988 - Cagayan de Oro
1989 - Lucena
1990 - San Fernando, Pampanga
1991 - Iloilo City
1992 - Zamboanga City
1993 - Ilagan
1994 - Cebu City
1995 - Pangasinan (Lingayen, Dagupan, San Carlos)
1996 - SOCSARGEN (Koronadal, Sarangani, General Santos)
1997 - Naga-Pili
1998 - Bacolod [billed as Centennial Palarong Pambansa]
1999 - *cancelled* (was to be held in Tubod)
2000 - Bacolod
2001 - *postponed* (was to be held in Naga)
2002 - Naga
2003 - Tubod
2004 - *cancelled*
2005 - Iloilo City
2006 - Naga (originally to be held in Marikina)
2007 - Koronadal
2008 - Puerto Princesa
2009 - Tacloban

hecky12
July 31st, 2008, 06:50 PM
@rover
hindi ka nman galit?! im just being real lang din sa sitwasyon... yun lang yun..

BoNduRanT
August 1st, 2008, 07:00 AM
The Olympics wont be held in Manila/Philippines in our lifetime. Mark my word. So kung ako sa inyo, I'd save up money para makanood na lang ng olympics sa ibang bansa :lol:

le Reine
August 1st, 2008, 07:08 AM
^^naalala ko tuloy dati na sobrang enthusiastic akong magkakaroon tayo ng gold medal nung 2000 sa Sydney. Tapos umuwi tayong luhaan pati ako umiyak. Kaya ngayon hindi na ako aasa na magkaka gold medal tayo in the near future at hindi rin magiging host ng Olympics. Asa pa.

OT: bakit mo binago avatar mo? wala na si crushie. :lol:

le Reine
August 1st, 2008, 07:11 AM
Is there a city called Ilagan? Maybe it's Iligan.

BoNduRanT
August 1st, 2008, 07:15 AM
Olympic fever na eh. Ibabalik after the olympics. :lol:

axel(08)brixx
August 1st, 2008, 07:40 AM
Para kasing lahat ng Bidding na nagaganap sa Pinas..Mapa private or Public (mas grabeh sa public)..!! ay may halong corruptionz..!! un un eh..

We're talking here.... a Big amount of money...as in Billion $ to host an Event like Olympic and Asian Games and Millions $ for SEA GAmes..!!

Sa daming Bad memories ^8^v ng mga project investors sa Pinas E2 na ata ang naging "Global Identity" ng Pinas para sa mga Foreign investor...The International Business Community..!!:ohno::ohno::ohno:

We need Investors in hosting such event..My point here...sana magkaroon muna tau ng isang Gobyernong masasabi naman nating di masyadong corrupt..!! Mga Gov. officials na bussiness friendly...hehehehe

and....about naman sa good place where we can build a World Class Stadium..i go for Cavite, Laguna, Rizal...maybe Batangas..!! this provinces situated nearby Metro Manila....ideal place...!! we can build it near the expressway or connecting to a major highwayz to make it accessable..!!

:banana::banana::banana:

le Reine
August 1st, 2008, 07:42 AM
^^parang walang corruption sa China. At parang hindi malala. It only takes a lot of political will and determination.

BoNduRanT
August 1st, 2008, 08:19 AM
Meron yatang Ilagan sa Isabela

Eriq
August 1st, 2008, 09:07 AM
Meron yatang Ilagan sa Isabela

Tama ka dyan.

bonixx
August 1st, 2008, 09:31 AM
The hosting schedule of the Palarong Pambansa is a bit erratic, with many times the host cities or DECS postponing/cancelling/pulling out of the Palaro. There are certain instances where any city regardless of location would be chosen, because it is the only one which offered to host the Palaro. As for the general rule, since the Palaro's revival in 1988 it goes Luzon-Visayas-Luzon-Mindanao. (See the pattern from 1992-1998 and 2005 onwards.)

As the Bureau of Public Schools Interscholastic Athletic Association (BPSIAA)
1948 - Manila
1949 - Tuguegarao
1950 - Davao City
1951 - ??
1952 - Legazpi
1953 - Vigan
1954 - Cebu City
1955 - ??
1956 - Batangas City
1957-1968 - ??
1969 - Pili
1970-1973 - ??

As Palarong Pambansa
1974 - ??
1975 - Cagayan de Oro
1976 - ??
1977 - Bacolod
1978 - ??
1979 - Bacolod
1980 - *postponed* (was to be held in Tuguegarao)
1981 - Tuguegarao
1982 - Dipolog
1983 - Tacloban
1984 to 1987 - *cancelled*
1988 - Cagayan de Oro
1989 - *cancelled* by Pres. Aquino
1990 - San Fernando, Pampanga
1991 - Iloilo City
1992 - Zamboanga City
1993 - Ilagan
1994 - Cebu City
1995 - Pangasinan (Lingayen, Dagupan, San Carlos)
1996 - SOCSARGEN (Koronadal, Sarangani, General Santos)
1997 - Naga-Pili
1998 - Bacolod [billed as Centennial Palarong Pambansa]
1999 - *cancelled* (was to be held in Tubod)
2000 - Bacolod
2001 - *postponed* (was to be held in Naga)
2002 - Naga
2003 - Tubod
2004 - *cancelled*
2005 - Iloilo City
2006 - Naga (originally to be held in Marikina)
2007 - Koronadal
2008 - Puerto Princesa
2009 - Tacloban

^^ san po galing itong info na to?
ang pagkakaalam ko dalawang beses nag host ng palaro ang Lucena, noong 1989 naalala ko pa dahil nanood ako non...yung isa 1976 di pa ko pinapanganak waheheh

filino
August 1st, 2008, 10:39 AM
I guess SURIGAO CITY is capable enough to hold a Palarong Pambansa or any National Sports activity once matapos na ang Sports Complex hopefully this year:


UPDATES ON THE PROVINCIAL SPORTS CENTER
as of July 29, 2008

main bleacher

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj246/lagat_bucket/IMG_0190.jpg

the provincial gymnasium

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj246/lagat_bucket/IMG_0191.jpg

the provincial mini theater

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj246/lagat_bucket/IMG_0192.jpg

another bleacher in front of the main bleacher

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj246/lagat_bucket/IMG_0193.jpg

at the back of this bleacher is the swimming pool

the prov. gym and the mini theater inside the sports complex and the roof below is the roof of the 3rd bleacher

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj246/lagat_bucket/IMG_0194.jpg

focus please: the main bleacher, i dont know kung may idagdag pa dyan. let's just wait:

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj246/lagat_bucket/closerviewbleacher.jpg


focu again: they are now working on the oval - rubberize ata to

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj246/lagat_bucket/closerviewoval.jpg

isagani
August 1st, 2008, 11:31 AM
^^ san po galing itong info na to?
ang pagkakaalam ko dalawang beses nag host ng palaro ang Lucena, noong 1989 naalala ko pa dahil nanood ako non...yung isa 1976 di pa ko pinapanganak waheheh

I just googled everything up. I thought the 1989 edition was cancelled because it was mentioned in the General Appropriations Act of 1989 (http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:d-H2sMXq06YJ:elibrary.supremecourt.gov.ph/republic_acts.php%3Fdoctype%3DRepublic%2520Acts%26docid%3Da45475a11ec72b843d74959b60fd7bd646954b8f46eec+%22palarong+pambansa%22+1989+aquino&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&gl=ca) that there was no Palarong Pambansa scheduled that year. Thanks for your info, I'm updating the list!

diz
August 1st, 2008, 07:44 PM
ang ganda pala ng provincial sports complex ng surigao. :okay:

[dx]
August 3rd, 2008, 04:52 AM
Rizal Sports Complex

1940
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3052/2661910529_35598a99aa_b.jpg

1946
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2293/2370079393_ecd41bc54f_o.jpg

Present
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3029/2442516764_1563cec812_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2242/2370075913_e345b54d7e_b.jpg

All images from jagfromspain (http://flickr.com/photos/7802262@N07/)

kiretoce
August 4th, 2008, 12:10 AM
^^ The roof of that baseball stadium is in a really bad and sorry state. :ohno:

GearX
August 4th, 2008, 06:28 AM
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/172/378472419_596349ace2_b.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/99/310122798_daefad4be2.jpg
http://www.ronnelcuison.com/images/random_shots/araneta_pic.jpg

kiretoce
August 4th, 2008, 03:24 PM
^^ For an old structure, it does look pretty well-maintained.

nicko
August 5th, 2008, 05:27 PM
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/2509/conventiondc5.jpg

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/5392/dsc00628bg6.jpg

http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/6035/dsc00629lb6.jpg

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/2676/dsc006131el5.jpg

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/7277/dsc00617ub4.jpg

photos by ritche

urban Iegend
August 7th, 2008, 06:15 PM
tacloban astrodome (after pops fernandez concert)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3238/2728325694_5da8431a7d_o.jpg

hecky12
August 8th, 2008, 07:47 PM
nagmumula lamang ito sa mga maiingay ang bibig.. ingay ng ingay wala naman nadudulot ang pagiingay.. pero kung gugustuhin walang impossible.. may patikim na nga ang isang opisyales ng POC.. na ininterview before their flight to beijing.. malaman ang sinabi ng official na yun... he said.. win or lose the governtment should give something BIG... he didnt elaborate it... but more or less meron akong idea sa gusto nia sabihin...

anyways, yun lang naman yun... kung lahat ng bidding e pupunahin wala talaga mangyayari sa pinas.. bat naman ang china.. tama nga ang sabi nyo.. hindi halata na walang corruption sa kanila.. kasi wala ng pakialam ang gobyerno nila dun.. basta makatayo at makapaghost sila..

absinthe_888
August 8th, 2008, 07:55 PM
grabe din ang corruption sa China. yun lang pag nahuli ka firing squad ka, at yung bullet na gagamitin nila sayo eh charged pa sayo.

Porknight
August 8th, 2008, 07:55 PM
^^ Muahahaha is this real???

^^parang walang corruption sa China. At parang hindi malala. It only takes a lot of political will and determination.

right Lol China is also known to be a very corrupted country .

hecky12
August 10th, 2008, 07:33 PM
just wanna ask guys. advantage ba talaga ang pagiging host nation? i mean, pag host nation ka qualified ka sa lahat ng sports/events? kasi pansin ko bat ang pinas pili lang ang mga pambato natin wala tayong pambato sa ibang sports..

le Reine
August 10th, 2008, 07:34 PM
^6that's one advantage. Another is familiarity with the venue.

kiretoce
August 11th, 2008, 12:04 AM
As host nation, you automatically get a berth (spot) in every sport and event contested in the the Olympics regardless if you have a chance to place in the medals or not.

(Think of it this way, at the Miss Universe beauty pageant, the host nation always makes it into the semifinals as a way for the pageant producers to say "Thank You" for organizing and hosting the event.) ;)

pau_p1
August 11th, 2008, 08:13 AM
well the advantage maybe is that the whole world is focused on you and it will call for big awareness... which will result to big tourism downpour...

flesh_is_weak
August 13th, 2008, 09:07 AM
during the parade of nations, how will it be like?

USA = Estados Unidos or
USA = Nagkaisang mga Estado ng Amerika or
just United States of America?

and will there be a Bangsamoro contingent? :lol:

ogiñi_ocram
August 13th, 2008, 09:34 AM
just wanna ask guys. advantage ba talaga ang pagiging host nation? i mean, pag host nation ka qualified ka sa lahat ng sports/events? kasi pansin ko bat ang pinas pili lang ang mga pambato natin wala tayong pambato sa ibang sports..

kapos kasi sa budget ang sports dito eh....kaya di kayang magpadala ng malaking team....advantage talaga kung host nation ka

ogiñi_ocram
August 13th, 2008, 09:37 AM
lol @ flesh_is_weak

fil07
August 13th, 2008, 05:29 PM
Just wondering how will the contigents be called. It should be in Filipino of course. Tsina, Hapon, Azerbaijan?? Kazakhstan?? We should have Filipinized names of countires first before thinking of bidding the Games. hehe

malvinjordan
August 14th, 2008, 06:23 AM
heheh...heres a few...

Ostrelya
Byetnam
Kanada
Meksiko

ehehe....

BergenScooterPatrol
August 15th, 2008, 11:17 PM
...I bet my Ass, we will have a Gold medal in Boxing in this Coming Beijing Olympics....:banana:

Your ass is toast..our lone bet Harry Tanamor just got his ass whooped!!!

tigidig14
August 16th, 2008, 12:18 AM
^really, when?
Para kasing lahat ng Bidding na nagaganap sa Pinas..Mapa private or Public (mas grabeh sa public)..!! ay may halong corruptionz..!! un un eh..

We're talking here.... a Big amount of money...as in Billion $ to host an Event like Olympic and Asian Games and Millions $ for SEA GAmes..!!

Sa daming Bad memories ^8^v ng mga project investors sa Pinas E2 na ata ang naging "Global Identity" ng Pinas para sa mga Foreign investor...The International Business Community..!!:ohno::ohno::ohno:

We need Investors in hosting such event..My point here...sana magkaroon muna tau ng isang Gobyernong masasabi naman nating di masyadong corrupt..!! Mga Gov. officials na bussiness friendly...hehehehe

and....about naman sa good place where we can build a World Class Stadium..i go for Cavite, Laguna, Rizal...maybe Batangas..!! this provinces situated nearby Metro Manila....ideal place...!! we can build it near the expressway or connecting to a major highwayz to make it accessable..!!

:banana::banana::banana:
mas parang possible kung iganap ang venue sa cebu, mas tahimik at malinis-linis kung icocompara sa manila.

diz
August 16th, 2008, 12:39 AM
@tigidig (neeeeigh): Estados Unidos. :lol:

mygz14
August 16th, 2008, 06:17 PM
If ever we would hold the Olympics here, what would be our Mascot? I still prefer the Philippine Eagle, although I wouldn't want it to be like Gilas (Mascot of the 2005 Sea Games). A Tarsier would also be great.

hecky12
August 16th, 2008, 06:17 PM
Just wondering how will the contigents be called. It should be in Filipino of course. Tsina, Hapon, Azerbaijan?? Kazakhstan?? We should have Filipinized names of countires first before thinking of bidding the Games. hehe


hahah.. naisip ko din to after ng opening ceremonies... pero kung magiging taglish lang ang iba e di english na lang lahat.. unless we show to the world our oldest alphabet which is alibata.. ummmm, sana meron pang nakakaalam kung pano bigkasin ang alibata.. with taht.. i think we can have that..

hecky12
August 16th, 2008, 06:20 PM
with the budget... pag sinikreto mo.. daming butas na hahanapin... pag pinublic mo naman.. ganun din.. hahanapan at hahanapan ng butas..

bat naman ang china.. ngayon na lang naglalabasan ang mga controversy sa paghost nila in particular.. diba?! gets nyo ba ang point?!!!

tutal kung merong isang place for the athletes for sure maraming maeenganyo na pinoy to join sports..

wala na dapat yung mga CRAB MENTALITY NATIN na... binulsa ang pondo etc.. etc.. hayaan natin sila kumilos sa sarili nila.. pagwala nangyari.. dun tayo magbunganga.. hindi yung WALA PA NGYAYARI e SINISEGUNDAHAN NA NG BATIKOS.. NGAWA NA NG NGAWA.. its 2008 na magbago na tayong lahat!!! yang mga duda duda na yan.. panahon pa ni cory yan.. iwanan na dun sa panhon na yun...

Culiat
August 16th, 2008, 10:07 PM
hahah.. naisip ko din to after ng opening ceremonies... pero kung magiging taglish lang ang iba e di english na lang lahat.. unless we show to the world our oldest alphabet which is alibata.. ummmm, sana meron pang nakakaalam kung pano bigkasin ang alibata.. with taht.. i think we can have that..

Ang pagbigkas ng alibata ay tulad lang ng pagbigkas ng mga salita natin ngayon. Ang Alibata ay isang paraan lang ng pagsusulat hindi paraan ng pagbibigkas. At hindi pa naman nawawala ang mga taong bihasa o may kaalaman sa pagsusulat at pagbabasa ng Alibata (maging ako'y nagsusulat ng aking talangbuhay sa Alibata).

Kung ilalapat sa wikang Filipino ang mga pangalan ng iba't ibang bansa para sa Palarong Olimpiko eh mas nararapat na ihalintulad ang mga ito sa kung paano ang pangalan ng mga bansa sa wikang kastila dahil yun at hindi inggles ang masmalapit sa likas na pagbigkas sa ating mga wika at masmadali at tamang isulat sa Alibata.

halimbawa:
Switzerland sa kastila ay Suiza
Kung Switzerland ang gagamitin eh napakahirap nitong isulat sa sinaunang Alibata at maging sa modernong alibata di gaya ng Suiza o Swisa o Suwisa na madali at parehas lang ang pagkakasulat sa sinauna at modernong Alibata. It'y dahil ito'y uri ng pagsusulat na kung tawagin ay Abugida (a segmental writing system which is based on consonants but in which vowel notation is obligatory.) Kaya sa pagsulat ng pangalan ng bansang ito eh tatatlong titik ng alibata lamang ang gagamitin "Su" "Wi" "Sa" di gaya ng kng inggles eh "Su" "Wi" "T?" "S?" "R?" "La" "N?" "D?"

:D

from_antipolo
August 18th, 2008, 04:36 PM
ito, medyo out of topic. let's talk about Olympic Opening Ceremonies muna. Diba may tradition na the next host city would always try to outdo the previous host sa opening ceremonies? The Chinese, they showcased things that were really theirs.
In the event na Manila will host the Olympics (wishful thinking) lang naman. Do you think it will be the most baklang-bakla opening ceremonies?
Who will carry the torch towards the cauldron? Who will sing the Olympic song? Sorry sa mods if this is quite out of topic!

kiretoce
August 18th, 2008, 05:11 PM
The Olympic Games (http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/dav/2008/08/18/oped/roger.p..antalan.dateline.igacos.html)

The Olympic Games, an ancient athletic contest, started in Olympia, in the old district of Elis, a locality in Greece, in the year 776 B.C. It continued to be played every four years for 1200 years until the Romans gained power in Greece and proclaimed Christianity as religion. The Olympics was banned in 393 as a pagan practice by Theodosius 1, a Christian Roman emperor.

It was revived in 1896 as an international meeting held every four years in a different country. Right now, from August 8 to 24, the XXIX Olympiad, billed as Beijing 2008, is being staged in China. To show to the world that it is an emerging economic superpower, China has spent more than 40 billion dollars to prepare and run this greatest sports event of the year.

More than 10,000 athletes from 205 countries are competing in 53 sports disciplines for the coveted 302 gold medals. China, the host country, has of course the biggest delegation -- 669 strong. They want to beat the USA in the total haul of medals in their home turf. At this early stage, it looks like they are succeeding.

The Philippines sent a modest delegation of 15 athletes, with good reason. According to some sports analysts, most of our athletes do not have a Chinaman's chance of winning a gold medal. But the ball is round. A prize of 15 million pesos is waiting for the first Filipino gold medalist.

There is big money in winning Olympic medals. It is reported that Michael Phelps, the American swimming sensation, will get a 1 million dollar bonus from Speedo Swimwear if he breaks the record of Mark Spitz (7 golds) by winning eight gold medals.

It takes a lot of money to produce Olympic champions, for long training, nutritional and medical expenses as well as other Olympic-related activities. A few days ago, shooter Abhinav Bindra won the first gold ever for India. A wise guy commented: "India was poor before, now it is a rich country. While the Philippines was rich before, now it is a poor country."

Actually, there have been poor countries that have had Olympic champions. Someday, if not in Beijing, our country will break the barrier, through individual talents or skills. We have world record holders already, such as, Paeng Nepomuceno in bowling, Bata Reyes and others in billiards, Manny Pacquiao in professional boxing, to mention a few. Too bad their sports are not included in the Olympic competition.

Our country has produced the best in the arts and the theater with great artists like Lea Salonga, and singers and chorale groups who had come up as number one in world musical competition. We had Miss Universe and Miss International beauty queens in the persons of Margie Moran Floriendo, Gloria Diaz and Gemma Cruz Araneta.

We also excel in other areas such as the OFW contribution to other countries and being the texting capital of the world. Can we be proud of these? Unfortunately, we are gaining worldwide notoriety as one of the most corrupt nations in the world. That's a record we must break.

Whether we win the elusive gold or not, there is still the golden challenge in the participation at the Olympic Games. The Games' motto: "Higher, Stronger, Faster" is a simple but bold formula for the search of excellence.

Global competitiveness is the real name of the game. Some of our athletes in Beijing broke our own national records, and yet they did not qualify for the finals. We have to be at par or better than the best of the rest of the world. As Heywood Broun says: "The tragedy of life is not that man loses but that he almost wins."

The same daunting challenge - to be world class - holds true for all the rest of the Filipinos in the home front. Nowadays, we are part and parcel of the so-called global village. Whether we like it or not, we have to compete with all the other countries in the global market.

Filipinos love to compete, not only in sports. There are so many competitions and contests going on, from the traditional Spelling Bee, to Best Farmer of the Year, Best Exporter, Best Tourist Attraction, Best Cultural show, Outstanding LGU, and what-have-you. Time to graduate from being champions of the mini-olympics to become true and real world champions.

The poor, the masa, may not be aware of the Olympic standards, or that there is an Olympiad going on. The Beijing Filipino athletes may not bring home the beacon. Our national leaders may still be squabbling, unable to solve the serious ills besetting the country. Bertolt Brecht said: "The defeats and victories of the fellows at the top aren't always the defeat and victories of the fellows at the bottom."

It is an impossible dream, but there must be a way for the people to emerge as champions in their own right and in their areas of concern. We can dream, can't we?

hecky12
August 18th, 2008, 07:18 PM
Ang pagbigkas ng alibata ay tulad lang ng pagbigkas ng mga salita natin ngayon. Ang Alibata ay isang paraan lang ng pagsusulat hindi paraan ng pagbibigkas. At hindi pa naman nawawala ang mga taong bihasa o may kaalaman sa pagsusulat at pagbabasa ng Alibata (maging ako'y nagsusulat ng aking talangbuhay sa Alibata).

Kung ilalapat sa wikang Filipino ang mga pangalan ng iba't ibang bansa para sa Palarong Olimpiko eh mas nararapat na ihalintulad ang mga ito sa kung paano ang pangalan ng mga bansa sa wikang kastila dahil yun at hindi inggles ang masmalapit sa likas na pagbigkas sa ating mga wika at masmadali at tamang isulat sa Alibata.

halimbawa:
Switzerland sa kastila ay Suiza
Kung Switzerland ang gagamitin eh napakahirap nitong isulat sa sinaunang Alibata at maging sa modernong alibata di gaya ng Suiza o Swisa o Suwisa na madali at parehas lang ang pagkakasulat sa sinauna at modernong Alibata. It'y dahil ito'y uri ng pagsusulat na kung tawagin ay Abugida (a segmental writing system which is based on consonants but in which vowel notation is obligatory.) Kaya sa pagsulat ng pangalan ng bansang ito eh tatatlong titik ng alibata lamang ang gagamitin "Su" "Wi" "Sa" di gaya ng kng inggles eh "Su" "Wi" "T?" "S?" "R?" "La" "N?" "D?"

:D

thanks for the lecture... hindi na kasi natin naabutan ang pagsusulat ng alibata e.. yun sana yung ma-showcase yung writings...

hecky12
August 18th, 2008, 07:21 PM
As host nation, you automatically get a berth (spot) in every sport and event contested in the the Olympics regardless if you have a chance to place in the medals or not.

(Think of it this way, at the Miss Universe beauty pageant, the host nation always makes it into the semifinals as a way for the pageant producers to say "Thank You" for organizing and hosting the event.) ;)

thanks for answering my question.. and to others as well...

hecky12
August 18th, 2008, 07:27 PM
ito, medyo out of topic. let's talk about Olympic Opening Ceremonies muna. Diba may tradition na the next host city would always try to outdo the previous host sa opening ceremonies? The Chinese, they showcased things that were really theirs.
In the event na Manila will host the Olympics (wishful thinking) lang naman. Do you think it will be the most baklang-bakla opening ceremonies?
Who will carry the torch towards the cauldron? Who will sing the Olympic song? Sorry sa mods if this is quite out of topic!

uy... sobra naman ikaw. depende sa magiging sitwasyon yun.. kung yung taon na yun e puro natural disaster sa lugar siempre hindi na kailangan magarbo ang opening.. maiinintidahn yun ng buong mundo... balewala na ang tradition dun.. i think...

at hindi rin naman baklang-bakla ang magiging opening ng Manila Games if ever... just take note of the World Youth Day Opening na lang, kaya ng pinas saka kung China use their 56 states meaning 56 traditions? e marami din naman ang pinas nyan...

Knitemplar
August 18th, 2008, 07:29 PM
As host nation, you automatically get a berth (spot) in every sport and event contested in the the Olympics regardless if you have a chance to place in the medals or not.


I believe it's only in the "team" sports -- not the individual excellence pursuits. (But I could be wrong.)

kiretoce
August 18th, 2008, 08:01 PM
^^ No, that emcompasses all sports on the Olympic programme. That's why the host nation always has one of the largest contingent of athletes at the Games.

hecky12
August 19th, 2008, 06:50 PM
i see.. thanks for that.. anyways, how did you change to 08.08.08 yung registered user?

flymordecai
August 21st, 2008, 08:20 AM
I hope the Philippines will develop a stronger sporting tradition in the next 20 years. That way, when Manila bids for the Asian Games and later on the Olympics, our bid will be more competitive. Not to mention other factors like infrastructure, costs, safety, etc.

hecky12
August 21st, 2008, 12:09 PM
sabi nga nung isang official ng POC win or lose, dapat merong something BIG for the athletes.. baka yun na nga yung plano nila to build a stadium, and upgrade other facilities..

mygz14
August 21st, 2008, 12:17 PM
Facilities is one factor, but the training itself is another. The Sports Program itself should be upgraded and should be at par if not more advanced than what other countries have. In that way, we would be more competitive.

GearX
August 21st, 2008, 12:57 PM
anong nangyari kay Toni Rivero?

mygz14
August 21st, 2008, 07:34 PM
anong nangyari kay Toni Rivero?

She hasn't competed yet. I think she will tomorrow, Aug 22. I pray for her success and I really hope she wins us a medal. Any color will do but Gold would shine the best. She's the best bet that we have in the entire Philippine Olympic Team.

fil07
August 21st, 2008, 08:30 PM
Goodluck!

hecky12
August 22nd, 2008, 03:59 AM
have you watched olympic recap over CS/RPN? ininterview yung isang athlete natin para sa men's long jump... he cried kasi natalo siya although okay yung jump nya.. mataas pero sadyang hindi rin siya pinalad dahil ang hahaba ng legs ng mga kalaban niya e..

anyways, ayun kinuwento niya na habang umiiyak siya na ang training not should be done in MONTHS... olympics e hindi biro dapat ang training diyan ay taon.. 3years the most... he said.. pakiusap nya pa na pag pinagtraining naman daw silang mga pinoy athletes sa ibang bansa dapat may kasama silang isang pinoy coach na titingin sa kanila.. kasi iba pala ang nagiging coach nila pag dating sa ibang bansa at pag balik ng pinas yung training o yung lesson nagiiba.. hindi nagtutuloy tuloy yung training.. nakalimutan ko yung term niya... basta something ganun ang sinabi niya na hindi nagtutuloy tuloy ang ensayo.. na talagang in tears yung pakiusap niyang yan.. pati ako nahawa.. kasi gusto niya magwin kaso kulang sa support..

hecky12
August 22nd, 2008, 04:04 AM
dalawa pa ang chance natin yung isa sa diving at si toni mamayang tanghali na ata ang fight niya..

kiretoce
August 22nd, 2008, 04:12 AM
have you watched olympic recap over CS/RPN? ininterview yung isang athlete natin para sa men's long jump... he cried kasi natalo siya although okay yung jump nya.. mataas pero sadyang hindi rin siya pinalad dahil ang hahaba ng legs ng mga kalaban niya e..

Mens Long Jump....mataas? Are you sure it's the Long Jump and not the High Jump? :nuts:

flymordecai
August 22nd, 2008, 04:34 AM
Does the Philippines have a cheer to support their athletes?

As you have all probably heard if you've been watching the Olympics, China has a cheer for its athletes "Jia Yoh" which means "To Go Faster" or something. They chant this particularly loud in badminton and table tennis. Other countries have diffent chants as well that is accompanied by claps, such as Japan's "Nippon!" cheer and Korea's "Dae Han Min Guk!" cheer. I was just wondering if we have our own cheer for our athletes.

"Laban tayo!"....? :D

tigidig14
August 22nd, 2008, 05:10 AM
@tigidig (neeeeigh): Estados Unidos. :lol:

ano?

bitoy
August 22nd, 2008, 05:54 AM
Does the Philippines have a cheer to support their athletes?

As you have all probably heard if you've been watching the Olympics, China has a cheer for its athletes "Jia Yoh" which means "To Go Faster" or something. They chant this particularly loud in badminton and table tennis. Other countries have diffent chants as well that is accompanied by claps, such as Japan's "Nippon!" cheer and Korea's "Dae Han Min Guk!" cheer. I was just wondering if we have our own cheer for our athletes.

"Laban tayo!"....? :D


BOOM! TARAT! Palpak!
BOOM PALPAK PALPAK!
:lol:

Para sa mga nakiangkas na mga officials sa Olympics yan!

mygz14
August 22nd, 2008, 08:16 AM
(Update) Rivero loses; RP gold drought continues
08/22/2008 | 10:16 AM
MANILA, Philippines – Mary Antoinette Rivero of the Philippines has lost 4-1 to Sandra Saric of Croatia in the preliminaries of the 67kg category in women’s Olympic taekwondo Friday.

The loss means the Philippines’ gold-medal drought will continue.

Rivero’s only chance for a medal in Beijing is for Saric to go all the way to the finals. If Saric does, Rivero will land a spot in the repechage (consolation) phase which will determine the bronze-medal winners. - GMANews.TV (http://www.gmanews.tv/story/115431/(Update)-Rivero-loses-RP-gold-drought-continues)

mygz14
August 22nd, 2008, 10:14 AM
(Update) Another sad ending: RP Olympic team medal-less again

MANILA, Philippines – Team Philippines is going home without a medal for a third straight Olympic Games.

Mary Antoinette Rivero lost 4-1 to Sandra Saric of Croatia in the preliminaries of the 67kg category in women’s Olympic taekwondo Friday morning.

Rivero waited for Saric to reach the finals in the afternoon in the hopes of qualifying for a bronze but Saric lost 3-1 to Hwang Kyungseon of Korea in the quarterfinals, dashing Rivero’s—and altogether the country’s—hopes of producing a medal.

The loss meant the Philippines’ gold-medal drought will continue, and it would have to wait four more years—yet again—to get a chance at breaking the drought that began in the 1924 Paris Games, the country’s Olympic debut.

Ryan Rexel Fabriga will be the 15th and final Filipino to see action in Beijing when he competes in the 10m springboard Friday night. But he is not expected to medal.

The last time the Philippines won a medal of any color was in the 1996 Atlanta Games when Mansueto Velasco won a silver in boxing. - GMANews.TV (http://www.gmanews.tv/story/115476/(Update)-Another-sad-ending-RP-Olympic-team-medal-less-again)

fil07
August 22nd, 2008, 10:41 AM
Bangsamoro should apply for a separate NOC if they want to be recognized as a separate entity.

mygz14
August 22nd, 2008, 10:46 AM
Bangsamoro should apply for a separate NOC if they want to be recognized as a separate entity.

Would it be similar to the Taiwan, Hong Kong and Macau NOC's?

hecky12
August 22nd, 2008, 11:08 AM
Mens Long Jump....mataas? Are you sure it's the Long Jump and not the High Jump? :nuts:


ibig kong sabihin na mataas.. mataas yung natalon niya.. long jump event siya..

hecky12
August 22nd, 2008, 11:20 AM
Would it be similar to the Taiwan, Hong Kong and Macau NOC's?

hindi nga siya pupuwede mahiwalay sa pinas.. if this happens.. kasama ang sulu arcihpelago sa bangsamoro at who knows baka sila ang makabawi sa sabah pano na ang pinas?

fil07
August 22nd, 2008, 02:38 PM
Malaysia would rather give Sabah to Bangsamoro than RP.

If granted by IOC, Bangsamoro will fight under their NOC flag.

hecky12
August 22nd, 2008, 03:27 PM
yup ganun ang posibleng mangyari pero hindi papayag ang pinas diyan..
anyways, another lost for the philippine team are we going to expect more for the 2012?

kiretoce
August 22nd, 2008, 09:31 PM
Bangsamoro should apply for a separate NOC if they want to be recognized as a separate entity.

Not in this lifetime. :ohno:

Would it be similar to the Taiwan, Hong Kong and Macau NOC's?

FYI, Macau does not have their own NOC.

ibig kong sabihin na mataas.. mataas yung natalon niya.. long jump event siya..

Mahaba is long. Mataas is high. Get your adjectives right!

ngprofflorida
August 23rd, 2008, 04:58 AM
:fiddle: most likely, if the philippines will/can indeed host the asian games exactly 10 years from now, some of the games will more likely take place in some cities outside metro manila, like cebu for example! i mean this sporting event is just too big to be confined to a single urban center. but this is just an assumption

Dont forget Bacolod is one of the most important venue today.....

mygz14
August 23rd, 2008, 06:15 AM
Not in this lifetime. :ohno:



FYI, Macau does not have their own NOC.



Mahaba is long. Mataas is high. Get your adjectives right!

Oh yeah. I forgot. Thanks for clarifying but they compete as a separate entity as the East Asian Games right?

kiretoce
August 23rd, 2008, 06:26 AM
^^ Yes, Macau competes in the East Asian Games. But does not compete in the Asian Games or in the Olympics.

hecky12
August 23rd, 2008, 01:58 PM
Philippines got gold in Olympics... courtesy of Willy Wang in Wushu pero hindi siya officially counted sa medal tally dahil demonstration sport lang ito...pero ang tanong can he get the 15 million reward? kasi wala naman sinabi ang govt na kailangan sa official medal tally ang gold.. ang sinabi lang nila kung sino ang makagold diba?

http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BCK/WS/83299.shtml

hecky12
August 23rd, 2008, 02:02 PM
Mahaba is long. Mataas is high. Get your adjectives right!


YOUR MAKING MY STATEMENT COMPLICATED... LONG JUMP EVENT NGA SIYA E.. PARA SA IKATATAHIMIK MO... SIGE CLEAR KO YUNG SARILI KO.. MALAYO ANG NATALON NIYA HINDI MATAAS... BETTER?!!!

ngprofflorida
August 23rd, 2008, 08:44 PM
RP Olympic team lauded

Gold medal won in wushu exhibition sport
We’re proud of them, says Loren, despite shutout in official tally



Sen. Loren Legarda lauded yesterday members of the Philippine Olympic team for "giving their very best in Beijing in keeping with the true spirit of sports competitions."


"While our country has once again been shut out in the official Olympics medal tally, our athletes fought their hearts out and we should be proud of them," said Legarda.

The Philippine campaign has not been a total loss in view of the wins posted by Filipinos in wushu, she said.

"To us, they count," said Legarda of the wushu gold medal won by Willy Wang and the other wins posted by Filipinos in the Beijing 2008 Wushu Tournament which was held alongside the Beijing 2008 Olympics.

Pending its acceptance as an Olympic sport, wushu was played in Beijing as an exhibition sport, with its atheletes also staying in the Olympic village. The medals won in the wushu tournament, however, are not included in the Olympic tally.

Wang, 21, is a son of a Binondo businesswoman and a Chinese mainlander who represented the Philippines in Beijing.

Three other Filipinos have assured themselves of at least a bronze.

Legarda said she is always dismayed by the recriminations that attend unsuccessful sports campaigns by the country.

"No, there’s no need to sound the death knell yet on Philippine sports," Legarda said. "We Filipinos are made of sterner stuff to just give up."

"We should be positive in looking at the Olympics as a continuing challenge for us."


Willy Wang wins gold in Beijing 2008 Wushu Tournament


By DING MARCELO


BEIJING – Wushu saved the Philippines from a total debacle here in Beijing Friday when Willy Wang captured the gold medal in the exhibition sport which is held as part of the Olympic celebration here.

The gold medal, however, does not count in the official Olympic medal tally and has no bearing in the country’s participation in the Olympics.

The event drew participation from 43 countries and 128 athletes who were treated like Olympians and stayed at the Olympic Village.

A large group of Filipinos, led by First Gentleman Jose Miguel "Mike" Arroyo and top sports officials were at the Olympic Sports Center gymnasium near the Bird’s Nest Stadium to cheer Wang capture the medal before an appreciative crowd.

It was a proud moment for the Filipinos who stood in attention as the national anthem was played during the medal ceremony.

"This is the first time the Philippine flag was raised and the anthem sung," said Wushu Federation of the Philippines president Julian Camacho.

"Everyone was so proud," he said.

Wang, 24, scored 19.44 points over two days in two events during the artistic competition of nangun and nanquan, which used the stick and the bare hands, respectively.

Taiwan’s Peng Weichua was second with 19.39, and Malaysia’s Pui Fook Chien third with 19.34 points.

Athletes from 13 countries participated in this particular event. All the entries had to pass qualifying to compete here and this was held during the Beijing World Wushu Championship last November.

It was the biggest victory for Wang who had won at least seven gold medals in the Southeast Asian Games and was a former wushu world champion.

Wang had been training in China for nearly a year and his devotion to the sport, which has its roots in China, finally paid off.

Wang was unavailable for comment as he remains at the gymnasium awaiting results of a dope test which is given to all athletes.

"It’s really a long road we traveled," said Edwin Pimentel, Wushu secretary general, when informed of Wang’s feat last night.

Pimentel said Wang had been training for this moment for the past eight years after taking up the sport when he was nine.

"Though wushu is not an official medal sport in the Olympics, we are still proud of the achievements of our wushu athletes," Pimentel said.

The wushu tournament is a four-day event and is being held where Olympic handball matches were conducted.

This is the first time a non-Olympic tournament has been held in a city hosting the Olympic Games at the same time, reported the China Daily yesterday.

A total of 15 gold medals are at stake in the tournament officially known as the Beijing 2008 Wushu Tournament which features taolu (set routines) and sanshou boxing (free combat).

Three other Filipinos are going for the gold when the tournament resumes Saturday.

These are Marian Mariano, Mary Jane Estima, and Benjie Rivera.

kiretoce
August 23rd, 2008, 10:03 PM
YOUR MAKING MY STATEMENT COMPLICATED... LONG JUMP EVENT NGA SIYA E.. PARA SA IKATATAHIMIK MO... SIGE CLEAR KO YUNG SARILI KO.. MALAYO ANG NATALON NIYA HINDI MATAAS... BETTER?!!!

:lol: You finally conceded and have seen the error of your ways. ;) Looks like you're getting all riled up for nothing. You earlier statement was non-sensical to begin with. So you have no one else to blame but yourself for being in the situation you're in. :baeh3:

johnmizer
August 24th, 2008, 01:18 AM
may mga chinese participants ba sa wushu?

marchitecto
August 24th, 2008, 02:43 AM
heheh...heres a few...

Ostrelya
Byetnam
Kanada
Meksiko

ehehe....

pwede!
mukha namang matino eh...
:-bd

Culiat
August 24th, 2008, 02:58 AM
pwede!
mukha namang matino eh...
:-bd

eto previous posts :D

hahah.. naisip ko din to after ng opening ceremonies... pero kung magiging taglish lang ang iba e di english na lang lahat.. unless we show to the world our oldest alphabet which is alibata.. ummmm, sana meron pang nakakaalam kung pano bigkasin ang alibata.. with taht.. i think we can have that..

Ang pagbigkas ng alibata ay tulad lang ng pagbigkas ng mga salita natin ngayon. Ang Alibata ay isang paraan lang ng pagsusulat hindi paraan ng pagbibigkas. At hindi pa naman nawawala ang mga taong bihasa o may kaalaman sa pagsusulat at pagbabasa ng Alibata (maging ako'y nagsusulat ng aking talangbuhay sa Alibata).

Kung ilalapat sa wikang Filipino ang mga pangalan ng iba't ibang bansa para sa Palarong Olimpiko eh mas nararapat na ihalintulad ang mga ito sa kung paano ang pangalan ng mga bansa sa wikang kastila dahil yun at hindi inggles ang masmalapit sa likas na pagbigkas sa ating mga wika at masmadali at tamang isulat sa Alibata.

halimbawa:
Switzerland sa kastila ay Suiza
Kung Switzerland ang gagamitin eh napakahirap nitong isulat sa sinaunang Alibata at maging sa modernong alibata di gaya ng Suiza o Swisa o Suwisa na madali at parehas lang ang pagkakasulat sa sinauna at modernong Alibata. It'y dahil ito'y uri ng pagsusulat na kung tawagin ay Abugida (a segmental writing system which is based on consonants but in which vowel notation is obligatory.) Kaya sa pagsulat ng pangalan ng bansang ito eh tatatlong titik ng alibata lamang ang gagamitin "Su" "Wi" "Sa" di gaya ng kng inggles eh "Su" "Wi" "T?" "S?" "R?" "La" "N?" "D?"

:D

:D

Arciga_01
August 24th, 2008, 08:08 AM
The Olympics = Not in a trillion years, Especially with this hopeless goverment and the widespread Pinoy Crab mentality.
SEA Games = Posible uli since nag host na tayo eh..
Asian Games = Ewan ko..

FerrariLover
August 24th, 2008, 08:56 AM
RP Olympic team lauded

Gold medal won in wushu exhibition sport
We’re proud of them, says Loren, despite shutout in official tally



Sen. Loren Legarda lauded yesterday members of the Philippine Olympic team for "giving their very best in Beijing in keeping with the true spirit of sports competitions."


"While our country has once again been shut out in the official Olympics medal tally, our athletes fought their hearts out and we should be proud of them," said Legarda.

The Philippine campaign has not been a total loss in view of the wins posted by Filipinos in wushu, she said.

"To us, they count," said Legarda of the wushu gold medal won by Willy Wang and the other wins posted by Filipinos in the Beijing 2008 Wushu Tournament which was held alongside the Beijing 2008 Olympics.

Pending its acceptance as an Olympic sport, wushu was played in Beijing as an exhibition sport, with its atheletes also staying in the Olympic village. The medals won in the wushu tournament, however, are not included in the Olympic tally.

Wang, 21, is a son of a Binondo businesswoman and a Chinese mainlander who represented the Philippines in Beijing.

Three other Filipinos have assured themselves of at least a bronze.

Legarda said she is always dismayed by the recriminations that attend unsuccessful sports campaigns by the country.

"No, there’s no need to sound the death knell yet on Philippine sports," Legarda said. "We Filipinos are made of sterner stuff to just give up."

"We should be positive in looking at the Olympics as a continuing challenge for us."


Willy Wang wins gold in Beijing 2008 Wushu Tournament


By DING MARCELO


BEIJING – Wushu saved the Philippines from a total debacle here in Beijing Friday when Willy Wang captured the gold medal in the exhibition sport which is held as part of the Olympic celebration here.

The gold medal, however, does not count in the official Olympic medal tally and has no bearing in the country’s participation in the Olympics.

The event drew participation from 43 countries and 128 athletes who were treated like Olympians and stayed at the Olympic Village.

A large group of Filipinos, led by First Gentleman Jose Miguel "Mike" Arroyo and top sports officials were at the Olympic Sports Center gymnasium near the Bird’s Nest Stadium to cheer Wang capture the medal before an appreciative crowd.

It was a proud moment for the Filipinos who stood in attention as the national anthem was played during the medal ceremony.

"This is the first time the Philippine flag was raised and the anthem sung," said Wushu Federation of the Philippines president Julian Camacho.

"Everyone was so proud," he said.

Wang, 24, scored 19.44 points over two days in two events during the artistic competition of nangun and nanquan, which used the stick and the bare hands, respectively.

Taiwan’s Peng Weichua was second with 19.39, and Malaysia’s Pui Fook Chien third with 19.34 points.

Athletes from 13 countries participated in this particular event. All the entries had to pass qualifying to compete here and this was held during the Beijing World Wushu Championship last November.

It was the biggest victory for Wang who had won at least seven gold medals in the Southeast Asian Games and was a former wushu world champion.

Wang had been training in China for nearly a year and his devotion to the sport, which has its roots in China, finally paid off.

Wang was unavailable for comment as he remains at the gymnasium awaiting results of a dope test which is given to all athletes.

"It’s really a long road we traveled," said Edwin Pimentel, Wushu secretary general, when informed of Wang’s feat last night.

Pimentel said Wang had been training for this moment for the past eight years after taking up the sport when he was nine.

"Though wushu is not an official medal sport in the Olympics, we are still proud of the achievements of our wushu athletes," Pimentel said.

The wushu tournament is a four-day event and is being held where Olympic handball matches were conducted.

This is the first time a non-Olympic tournament has been held in a city hosting the Olympic Games at the same time, reported the China Daily yesterday.

A total of 15 gold medals are at stake in the tournament officially known as the Beijing 2008 Wushu Tournament which features taolu (set routines) and sanshou boxing (free combat).

Three other Filipinos are going for the gold when the tournament resumes Saturday.

These are Marian Mariano, Mary Jane Estima, and Benjie Rivera.



WUSHU WILL NEVER EVER BECOME AN OLYMPIC SPORT, THE SAME AS BOWLING BECAUSE OIC ARE BIASED TO FILIPINOS... THAT IS THE TRUTH

kiretoce
August 24th, 2008, 09:01 AM
^^ Out of the 205 nations that are in the Olympics, why would you think the IOC would even zero-in on the Philippines? Like the Philippines has something the other countries lack.

:ohno:

fil07
August 24th, 2008, 09:56 AM
China Chinesecized the names of countries.

diz
August 24th, 2008, 10:03 AM
WUSHU WILL NEVER EVER BECOME AN OLYMPIC SPORT, THE SAME AS BOWLING BECAUSE OIC ARE BIASED TO FILIPINOS... THAT IS THE TRUTH

haha wushu and bowling were not invented in the Philippines.

ona
August 24th, 2008, 10:32 AM
Hopefully China's Gold Medal Victory in this Olympics will inspire other Asian Nations to excel in sports. Imagine they won 50 gold Medals in 1 olympics - the largest for any nation this 21st Century.

Askal82
August 24th, 2008, 04:06 PM
WUSHU WILL NEVER EVER BECOME AN OLYMPIC SPORT, THE SAME AS BOWLING BECAUSE OIC ARE BIASED TO FILIPINOS... THAT IS THE TRUTH

It would've been a lot better if they put in pool games (billiards) on the games in the same level with trap shooting and archery. They're all precision sports.

hecky12
August 24th, 2008, 07:17 PM
bat sabi sa isang article.. prior sa 2008 Beijing olympics wala ang pinas sa mga grupo ng mga bansa na walang medal...so ibig sabihin sa beijing olympics lang kino-consider ang mga napanalunang medal sa wushu?

:lol: You finally conceded and have seen the error of your ways. ;) Looks like you're getting all riled up for nothing. You earlier statement was non-sensical to begin with. So you have no one else to blame but yourself for being in the situation you're in. :baeh3:

OFF TOPIC:

OO NA SIGE NA.. MATALINO KA NA MASYADO.. KALA MO KUNG SINO KA.. WALA AKONG PAKE-ALAM SA MGA GRAMMAR MO HINDI KITA PINAKEKEALAMAN SA GANYAN.. WALA AKONG PAKE KUNG MOD KA... MASYADO KANG MAINITI SA AKIN MR./MS./MRS. KUNG SINO KA MAN..KUNG MAY CORRECTION KA SA POST KO... DROP ME A MESSAGE PRIVATELY.. PERO SINCE YOUR AIRING THIS PUBLICLY.. E DI SABIHIN KO DIN PUBLICLY ANG SAGOT KO...QUITS LANG.. MATAGAL KA NG FORUMER DITO DAMI MO NA NGA POSTS O! ... YAN BA ANG NATUTUTUNAN MO SA FORUM NA MANG-MATA NG IBANG FORUMER? PANG-ASAR ANG MGA EMOTICONS MO SA TOTOO LANG...NAKAKAPIKON... MASYADO KANG MATAAS...ERASE THIS IF YOU WANT PARA HINDI MALAMAN NG IBANG FORUMER.. KAKAHIYA NAMAN SAKEN KUNG BINASTOS KITA DIBA.. NAKAKABASTOS KA KASI.. SIR/MAM...:ohno::ohno::ohno:

hecky12
August 24th, 2008, 07:18 PM
WUSHU WILL NEVER EVER BECOME AN OLYMPIC SPORT, THE SAME AS BOWLING BECAUSE OIC ARE BIASED TO FILIPINOS... THAT IS THE TRUTH


yeah your right!

kiretoce
August 24th, 2008, 08:10 PM
Why would I erase your post? It doesn't affect me. It only shows how you don't take to criticisms all too well and disintegrate at the slightest things said against you. Respect is earned, so far you've earned neither an iota of it from me. You're being taught a lesson, for there are glaring errors that reflects on you and no one else. A person that doesn't heed to instruction or dismisses advice is only a fool in everyone's eyes but his own. Shape up or ship out, simple as that.

Knitemplar
August 25th, 2008, 08:54 AM
WUSHU WILL NEVER EVER BECOME AN OLYMPIC SPORT, THE SAME AS BOWLING BECAUSE OIC ARE BIASED TO FILIPINOS... THAT IS THE TRUTH

well, you forget that Bowling was actually a demo sport in Seoul in 1988, and it was the first gold medal EVER won by a Filipino/a, I think her name was Arlene Cedena (or something like that) -- even though it was only a demo sport.

There are only so many sports that can be accommodated on the Olympic slate, and there are like fifteen or so federations waiting to get in.

hecky12
August 25th, 2008, 11:28 AM
Why would I erase your post? It doesn't affect me. It only shows how you don't take to criticisms all too well and disintegrate at the slightest things said against you. Respect is earned, so far you've earned neither an iota of it from me. You're being taught a lesson, for there are glaring errors that reflects on you and no one else. A person that doesn't heed to instruction or dismisses advice is only a fool in everyone's eyes but his own. Shape up or ship out, simple as that.

naks... bait baitan ka ha.. pinapangaralan ako?! hindi lang dito sa thread nato mo ko tinira uy... alam mo yan kung saan yang mga yan... bat bigla kang hindi gumamit ng emoticons...kasi tablado ka sa sinabi ko tungkol sa emoticons... yung mga emoticons na yan.. dagdag yan sa mga hindi na kaya iexpress o pindutin/i-type ng kamay sa keyboard kaya nagrerepresent tayo ng emoticons para maexpress lalo ang gusto natin sabihin..lalo na ang MAKA-PANGASAR... aminin! yung mga ginamit mong emoticons para ireply ang post ko e kapikon yun... SWEAR!!!

hindi ako marunong tumanggap ng criticisms? if you will remove the emoticons that you sent to me.. hindi ako magkakaron ng wild reactions sa comment mo...

MAY KINALALAGYAN DIN ANG MGA EMOTICONS SA TAMANG ORAS AT PANAHON.. HINDI ITO PALAGING GINAGAMIT SA MGA REPLIES...

hecky12
August 25th, 2008, 11:30 AM
well, you forget that Bowling was actually a demo sport in Seoul in 1988, and it was the first gold medal EVER won by a Filipino/a, I think her name was Arlene Cedena (or something like that) -- even though it was only a demo sport.

There are only so many sports that can be accommodated on the Olympic slate, and there are like fifteen or so federations waiting to get in.

salamat sa impormasyon...

Dreamtofly
September 14th, 2008, 08:13 AM
Post your opinion and info about the bid of Manila City to host 2024 Summer Olympic.

Dreamtofly
September 14th, 2008, 08:20 AM
I found this you tube campaign of Manila bidding 2024 Olympics.

Check it out!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yV7by3nmor8&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KksnuBMJodY

kiretoce
September 14th, 2008, 08:20 AM
^^ Nice dream. But only a dream.

fil07
September 14th, 2008, 04:39 PM
Dream Big

renell
September 18th, 2008, 01:51 PM
It would've been a lot better if they put in pool games (billiards) on the games in the same level with trap shooting and archery. They're all precision sports.

FerrariLover is a bit.... well he's missing out on a lot of ideas and intelligence writing in caps and writing such tripe.

Though Askal you make a good point about the precision, accuracy sports involves in pool sports similar to shooting and archery. I've read some critique of archery being in the Olympics as it's nothing like the "real" bow and arrow type of stuff.

Look if we keep producing pool masters, and with our culture I think we will continue to be successful (though I would hope we'd establish some kind of institute or control board to really dominate) we will be good at it whatever level of competition it is in.

Dreaming big gets you nowhere, you wake up then it's all over. First we need a really successful hosting of SEA Games (though in my opinion other Philippine cities deserve a go to host, not just Manila), then the Asiad then maybe when I'm close to death, the Olympiad.

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
October 1st, 2008, 11:14 AM
i guess its possible but not at this point, not even 10,20,30 years from now.... i guess china has already broke the monopoly of hosting the olympics. ever since then, industrialized nations are just keeping the ball rolling all by themselves and I believe that like what Jacques Rogge said that no one should monopolize the games. What beauty is it for the philippines to host one day, the biggest show on earth! I believe filipinos can matched or even surpass what china did. like them, we are a diverse nation with so much talent, so keep on DREAMING!!!!!:banana:

its funny though, after being awed by the olympic green, i kinda find the interest to work with my design project for an olympics in the phils., although im not an architect (frustrated it is) but that was my first choice though. and my autocad broke out! DAMN!!!!!!! and my project is quite big, and Im naming it, THE OLYMPIC REEF!!!!! feels like fitting for an archipelago like ours.... geez, I can't wait for my AUTOCAD to work!

davaob4now
October 15th, 2008, 05:52 AM
BIMP-EAGA Friendship Games

Davao City-Young athletes from the four member-countries of the Brunei Darussalam-Indonesia-Malaysia-Philippines East ASEAN Growth Area (Bimp-Eaga) will troop to Brunei in November this year for the 6th Bimp-Eaga Friendship Games.

In a preparatory meeting held at the Philippine Sports Commission (PSC) satellite office this city, local government representatives from the cities of Panabo, Tagum and Marawi and the provinces of Davao del Sur and Davao Oriental expressed their interest to participate in the

biennial friendship games slated on November 28 to 30, 2008.

PSC Mindanao head Joseph Encabo said that for the past years, there has been a strong show of interest among local government units (LGUs) in Mindanao to participate in the games, which have been created to foster camaraderie among the youth in the four countries.

Each Eaga country will send 75 delegates to join the games.

The athletes will compete in seven sporting events: athletics, aquatic sports (swimming and diving), badminton, futsal, pencak silat, sepak takraw and tennis.

Futsal is indoor version of football while pencak silat is Indonesian martial arts.

A Indonesia Information Exhibit will also be mounted as a side activity of the games to increase awareness of the youth on tourism and economic opportunities of the sub-region.

“The friendship games is an initiative that should not only foster sportsmanship among the athletes but should also be seen as an avenue to strengthen the unity and bond of the cultures of Eaga as this will be a strong foundation for the economic cooperation of the four countries,” said undersecretary Virgilio Leyretana, chairman of the Mindanao economic development council (Medco).

Leyretana said that Medco will extend its full support and assistance to ensure the successful participation of the Philippine delegation to the games.

The Bimp-Eaga Friendship Games was initiated by the Philippines in 1996. After a five-year lull, it was revived in 2003 with the creation of the Bimp-Eaga sports council spearheaded by the PSC. (Medco)

absinthe_888
October 24th, 2008, 07:32 PM
Olympian (http://philstar.com/index.php?Opinion&p=49&type=2&sec=25&aid=2008102496)
FIRST PERSON By Alex Magno
Saturday, October 25, 2008

The Philippine team’s performance at the Beijing Olympics was, well, dismal.

Once upon a time, we were a sports power in the region. We may have never netted an Olympic gold, but our athletes of yore were contenders. They brought home silvers and bronzes.

One upon a time, the Philippine contingent in international sports competition were always robust. We competed in a wide range of disciplines. We had gymnasts and boxers, runners and swimmers. Our basketball team was looked up to with respect.

Today, we have only a handful of athletes capable of passing the qualifiers. Our last Olympic delegation was miniscule. We had to bring in a professional boxer to carry the flag. There were few Filipinos in the referees’ pool — even as we bring in more officials than athletes as a matter of habit.

Not only was our Olympic delegation miniscule relative to our population size, it was also a lightweight team. Our athletes were eliminated in the early going. Even a bronze medal seemed a distant dream.

From the onset, there was little enthusiasm for our team. Few businessmen participated in supporting our athletes. The selection process was thin. The logistics even thinner.

The dismal performance our team turned in was almost expected. As a consequence, there was little public indignation over our pathetic participation in the Olympics.

The public apathy towards our athletic program is not healthy. The sad state of our sports infrastructure is allowed to persist by benign neglect. Our expectations are lowered by the day. Our self-esteem as a nation withers.

No one has taken Philippine Olympic Committee president Jose ‘Peping’ Cojuangco to task for the miserable performance of our team. It is as if we have all become resigned to a future of mediocrity in athletics.

From sources in the sports community, we now hear horror stories about the complete breakdown of leadership in that sector. There has hardly been coordination among the national sports associations. Little effort has been invested in raising resources to train our athletes. There is nothing that could even distantly resemble a comprehensive national search for talent in athletics. We have lost what was once a broad, grassroots-based national sports program.

But then, no one has ever accused Peping Cojuangco of having an excessive work ethic.

The man hardly communicated with the various sports associations. He offered little support and encouragement. He raised few logistics. He did not network the business community to gather potential patrons for the various athletic disciplines.

Next month, the national sports associations will choose between Cojuangco and Arturo Macapagal. Both are aspiring to be president of the Philippine Olympic Committee (POC).

Working for the POC is, to be sure, a thankless job. It will require investment of time and, more important, some amount of passion to lift up Philippine sports from purgatory.

Cojuangco has served his term as best he can. He must be commended for accepting a thankless job. But, in all fairness, he did not seem to have the passion required by the great challenge facing Philippine sports. It is a challenge that calls for generous investment of blood, sweat and tears.

Arthur Macapagal, unlike Cojuangco, has been deep in the trenches of the sports community, serving as chief of the shooting association. He understands the problems confronting the sports associations.

Unlike Cojuangco, Macapagal was an Olympian himself. He knows what competing seriously requires. In a word, it requires not just the talents of individual athletes but also the support of a competent sports establishment.

Already, Macapagal has drawn up a comprehensive plan to improve our participation in the 2012 London Olympics. That plan, now being discussed with the 40 national sports associations, is centered on a focused talent identification program and the establishment of a pool of elite athletes to be developed and trained intensively and under the best coaches there are.

In addition, Macapagal proposes the establishment of a Philippine Business Sports Foundation to ensure support for the various sports associations. To deserve greater support, he asks the national sports associations to improve on their organizational maturity, build effective governance processes and strengthen their individual financial capabilities.

The quality of our participation in international competitions rests ultimately on the strength of our national sports associations. When they are weak, our national team will be mediocre. When they are strong, we will regain the world’s respect.

Our national sports associations deserve to be heard by the Philippine Olympic Committee. The task of the POC is not just to deliver a national team to the site of the next Olympics. It is much more than that: requiring supervision of a comprehensive national sports development program hand-in-hand with the national sports associations.

Peping has done his time, with lackluster results. Patriotism should dictate that he hand over the reins of our Olympic preparation to someone else who better represents the national sports associations. Someone who is committing to work a lot harder.

There is not much time before the next Olympics to dramatically improve the quality of our participation and boost national morale.

kiretoce
October 25th, 2008, 02:07 AM
^^ Ahh....that's our only consolation...."Once Upon A Time...." :ohno:

diz
October 26th, 2008, 09:22 PM
Did anyone know the Asian Beach Games started?

21. PHI 0 2 8 10
http://www.bali2008.com/

Indonesia for some reason has the most medals. :D

BTW, we lost to India in Beach Basketball, so we got silver. :(

kiretoce
October 26th, 2008, 09:36 PM
^^ Minor meets and tourneys don't capture the interest of Pinoys. ;)




:jk: :nocrook:

diz
October 27th, 2008, 02:42 AM
^^ Therefore we lose.

and we're hosting the next one.

kiretoce
October 27th, 2008, 02:49 AM
^^ Actually, we're fourth in line to host the Asian Beach Games.

2008 Bali, INA
2010 Muscat, OMA
2012 Haiyang, CHN
2014 Boracay, PHI
2016 Phuket, THA

diz
October 27th, 2008, 03:47 AM
oh yeah, i forgot. :D

ritche
November 5th, 2008, 10:35 AM
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