The new Eesti Rahva Muuseum / Estonian National Museum building (in short - ERM) will be build in Tartu,Raadi area. The location is historic site of the museum,it was located there in 1930s,in Raadi manor (was destroyed during World War II) New museum design comes from France based trio - Dan Dorrell,Lina Ghotmeh & Tsuyoshi Tane,who's competition entry "Memory Field" won in 2006. In recent years,progress has been slow due to financing issues (project was originally planned to be finished in 2011) However,in last 1,5 years project has been moving on a steady pace and current planned start of the construction is in 2012,construction should end in 2014-2015.

Architects: Dan Dorell (France),Lina Ghotmeh (France),Tsuyoshi Tane (United Kingdom)
Engineers: EA Reng AS (Estonia)
Building size: 34 000 m²
Estimated start of construction: 2012
Estimated deadline: 2014
Cost of project: ~38 million euros
Main contractor: N/A,to be announced
Site clean-up: K&H AS

Current project status: on-going procurement for selecting main contractor,waiting for final funding decisions

Link to project on SARL d'Architecture Dorell Ghotmeh Tane website > http://www.dgtarchitects.com/project.php?ln=en&project=ee01
Link to project on ERM website (Estonian) > http://www.erm.ee/?lang=EST&node=64
Link to project on ERM website (English) > http://www.erm.ee/?lang=ENG&node=64

Project plans:
http://www.arcomai.it/public/img_post/MNE_03.jpg

http://www.arcomai.it/public/img_post/MNE_06%20.jpg

http://www.arcomai.it/public/img_post/MNE_02.jpg

Project renders (Exterior):
http://www.dgtarchitects.com/img/projects/ee01/img/01.jpg

http://www.dgtarchitects.com/img/projects/ee01/img/13.jpg

http://www.dgtarchitects.com/img/projects/ee01/img/14.jpg

http://www.dgtarchitects.com/img/projects/ee01/img/02.jpg

http://www.dgtarchitects.com/img/projects/ee01/img/03.jpg

Project renders (Interior):
http://www.dgtarchitects.com/img/projects/ee01/img/11.jpg

http://www.dgtarchitects.com/img/projects/ee01/img/12.jpg

Check architects website for more renders and ERM website for latest news,also remember all info here is vulnerable to change,so expect this post to be edited often. I'll keep you all updated on the project and hopefully other Estonian forumers join in on relaying the news regarding this project. :)

Few more words - this project has already raised considerable amount of interest in world and probably,once built,it get's even more international public attention than currently KUMU does. Also,about the cost,main costly factor is the location - it'll be built in a swampy,almost bog like area. As you can see from the plans,small lake is nearby.

These guys are absolutely great. And the building is great.

Definitely world class architecture. Might I add - Winy Maas (MVRDV), was also in the jury.


I dont know the latest news, well, I SHOULD know the latest news, and I think i do know the latest news, just I forget... but, the buildings roof isnt walkable anymore, which is a huge loss... but mby, its old news, and mby newer news says its walkable again. Anyhow, its a huge loss if it is not walkable.

Hmm,the roof starts on the same lavel as the old airfield,so it should be walkable? Only way,I see it not walkable,is that they have changed roof material (glass,anyone?)



Oh yeah,I kinda forgot to mention :D nearby is old soviet era military airfield,which will be incorporated into the project. The building basically forms an extension of the main runway (pretty interesting concept,I have to say)

^^ Not triying to be a smartass but the runway is a bit further away. It will be aligned with an old service road of the airfield.

^^ Not triying to be a smartass but the runway is a bit further away. It will be aligned with an old service road of the airfield.

:sly: Are you sure about that?

The original plan had the building aligned to the main runway. (museum is the dark part,seen next to the lake)
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http://www.dgtarchitects.com/img/projects/ee01/img/01.jpg

^^ That is the service road. The runway is about 800 meters North.

At the moment it's the site of Tartu's used car lot :sly:

Okay,my mistake. I've only seen plans of the area directly adjacent to the museum. (apparently those don't show main runway :dunno:)

Hmm,the roof starts on the same lavel as the old airfield,so it should be walkable? Only way,I see it not walkable,is that they have changed roof material (glass,anyone?)



Oh yeah,I kinda forgot to mention :D nearby is old soviet era military airfield,which will be incorporated into the project. The building basically forms an extension of the main runway (pretty interesting concept,I have to say)


No, not glass. Well, theres definitely glass at some places. But the non-walkabilitywas an engineering issue. Atleast, as far as i remember.

(sa peaksid tiiduga juttu ajades diktofoni kaelas kandma)

(sa peaksid tiiduga juttu ajades diktofoni kaelas kandma)

(seda kuulsin Dan Dorelli käest)
aga võin veel lisada
(Viny Maas on pettunud, et katusel ei saa olla)

(seda kuulsin Dan Dorelli käest)

(sa võiksid arhitektidega rääkides diktofoni kaelas kanda.)

Here's one Estonian National Museum's New Building design competition entry which did not win:

http://i44.tinypic.com/ngwwf6.jpg http://i40.tinypic.com/2qs2gkx.jpg

http://i39.tinypic.com/1zgyvtf.jpg http://i41.tinypic.com/2qjj77n.jpg http://i42.tinypic.com/6p9c93.jpg

http://i41.tinypic.com/kcjq83.jpg http://i44.tinypic.com/orihpv.jpg http://i39.tinypic.com/6jm3ih.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/5b8dn4.jpg http://i44.tinypic.com/143ngu8.jpg http://i39.tinypic.com/4kfitl.jpg

http://i43.tinypic.com/2j193k8.jpg http://i44.tinypic.com/2926xap.jpg http://i39.tinypic.com/50s9yv.jpg

By Explicit Architecture (Austria) Link > http://architecture.explicit-architecture.com/NAVIGATION/haupt.html

I dug out few more renders of the new ERM building.

Interior
http://www.eareng.ee/public/files/large/ERM_interjoor_2.jpg
http://www.eareng.ee/public/files/large/ERM_interjoor_3.jpg

Exterior
http://www.eareng.ee/public/files/large/ERM_4.jpg
http://www.eareng.ee/public/files/large/ERM_1.jpg

Few new bits & pieces about ERM project was revealed in news today:

First,museum people hope to receive 500 million EEK (half of the project price) funding for the project from EU,the other half should come from the state. They are currently waiting for response regarding the EU financing. If they get EU funding,then construction procurement will be held in August and if all goes well,construction should start in late autumn.

Bit controversial,almost NIMBY-like claim by museum director:
Kui ma vaatasin algul seda juba valitud projekti, siis oli selge, et sellisel kujul ei hakka ta kunagi muuseumina tööle. Selline üleni klaasist kasvuhoone, mis oli veel suures osas maa all ja meie kliimas! Nüüdseks on projekti tublisti ümber tehtud.

Basically,museum people were not happy with museum design and project has been extensively modified. I'm not sure if this is a good thing :sleepy:


Despite few factual errors (price tag of Kumu art museum was around 1 billion EEK,not 656 million),full article is worth reading. Here's link (in Estonian): http://www.postimees.ee/?id=293656

I must say IM IN LOVE WITH THE DESIGN!

Luxembourgian expert group JASPERS,evaluating ERM project before request for EU funding,has suggested to cancel it or build it in half of it's proposed size. :bash: Museum people claimed that experts were not familiar with local conditions and were wrong about many details. Sad thing is that EU probably takes experts opinion into consideration...

Source: http://www.epl.ee/artikkel/591466

This is a second major blow to large projects waiting for funding - few months ago ERR project received devastating review from Riigikontroll. :no:

^^ I have nothing against the architecture, don't get me wrong, but € 60 million is way too much for a specific museum like this(showing mittens and...erm...spinning wheels). Even when you consider the rise in construction prices, KUMU was still "only" € 50 million.

If you read the article, it says that JASPERS is usually not too strict when valuating projects but they are on this one and there's a good reason. The visitor number is just a very optimistic guess and not a number based on research and analysis. 145,000 Estonians and 30,000 foreigners per year...c'mon! There is no point in investing huge amounts of money into all kinds of different buldings if we won't have enough money in the future to manage them.

^^ I have nothing against the architecture, don't get me wrong, but € 60 million is way too much for a specific museum like this(showing mittens and...erm...spinning wheels). Even when you consider the rise in construction prices, KUMU was still "only" € 50 million.

If you read the article, it says that JASPERS is usually not too strict when valuating projects but they are on this one and there's a good reason. The visitor number is just a very optimistic guess and not a number based on research and analysis. 145,000 Estonians and 30,000 foreigners per year...c'mon! There is no point in investing huge amounts of money into all kinds of different buldings if we won't have enough money in the future to manage them.

nah guys. Its not just mittens, its also a research facility! And the press totally overplayed the critical aspects of the report. Im still very hopeful that the new building will come.

Tbh,I would ignore that price tag. Museums tend to be expensive buildings and it's Estonian NATIONAL museum. If our national history,identity & all things related to us don't deserve a decent museum (current ERM building is a joke),well..what the hell does then? Bunch of paintings? Few carved rocks?

ERM has to be built and if it would exist,then I would happily contribute to that '145000 visitors per year' number.

Why consult with experts then if we really don't give a damn about what they say? "Cause they don't know the local circumstances?" Do you really think the people who decide whether this project gets EU money or not know the circumstances better?

BTW, KUMU gets an average of ~160,000 visitors a year or 15,000 less than the estimated number for the new ERM building.

Why consult with experts then if we really don't give a damn about what they say? "Cause they don't know the local circumstances?" Do you really think the people who decide whether this project gets EU money or not know the circumstances better?

BTW, KUMU gets an average of ~160,000 visitors a year or 15,000 less than the estimated number for the new ERM building.

In that perspective, it ofcourse doesnt seem likely that ERM will get as many visitors...

so... before april 2011 we should find out if the eu will give € 32 million for the project or not. that will decide if the building will be built or not (or be postponed again...).

after the competition in 2006 the museum hoped to open the new building in 2009... heh.

now, if they'll get the money, the museum should open in 2014.

Do they know something what we don't or are they planning to start construction without EU funding? Because Eesti Rahva Muuseumi Ehituse Sihtasutus decided today on council meeting that procurement for finding construction company who will build ERM will be started on 4th March. Estimated deadline is summer 2014.

It's insane,but if it's true then construction itself might start in this year... :shifty:

Do they know something what we don't or are they planning to start construction without EU funding? Because Eesti Rahva Muuseumi Ehituse Sihtasutus decided today on council meeting that procurement for finding construction company who will build ERM will be started on 4th March. Estimated deadline is summer 2014.

It's insane,but if it's true then construction itself might start in this year... :shifty:

they will probably add clause that sais that contract is void if EU funding doesnt come.

a little article in the last number of 'ehitaja' magazine said that construction will start in april this year...

a little article in the last number of 'ehitaja' magazine said that construction will start in april this year...

and pigs fly. :ohno:

they will probably add clause that sais that contract is void if EU funding doesnt come.

You are right,that's what they are doing:
Eesti Rahva Muuseumi Ehituse Sihtasutuse juhatuse liikme Peeter Maueri sõnul tuleb Eesti Rahva Muuseumi (ERM) uue hoone ehitushanke tingimustesse punkt, mis võimaldab pakkumised tagasi lükata, kui Euroopa Komisjon otsustab muuseumihoone rahastamist mitte toetada.

Source: BNS

Anyway,EU decision about giving funding to this project is made in June.

Procurement for finding main construction contractor has begun. Last day of submitting entries is 12th May & winner will be selected on next day,so by mid-May we should know who is going to build ERM.

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However,works on site should already start in spring as K&H AS won the contract for site clean-up. Cost of removing contaminated soil (probably leaked fuel from the old airfield) & clean-up is 622000 euros and work has to be completed within 90 days.

Astlanda Ehitus has already disputed museum procurement.
Article about it: http://www.tartupostimees.ee/?id=404308

:nuts:

Procurement for finding main construction contractor has begun. Last day of submitting entries is 12th May & winner will be selected on next day,so by mid-May we should know who is going to build ERM.

ERM foundation has moved procurement end to 2nd June to give more time for construction companies to prepare their entries. So main contractor will be announced in summer.

One new thing has also surfaced - new ERM building should be built within 33 months.

ERM construction tender failed!

Eesti Rahva Muuseum decided to declare procurement void,as ALL bidding construction companies made too expensive bids. Museum was aiming for construction price of ~38 million euros,but companies made offers up to 55 million euros :nuts:

Right now museum is analysing project documentation,to make designs cheaper without losing the overall architectural concept (F***! they are going to turn it into Art Plaza vol.2! :bash:) New tender will be held soon.

Source: http://www.tartupostimees.ee/?id=462366

:lol:

Interasting building

http://www.nordicfinancial.com/UserFiles/Image/kh.jpg

However,works on site should already start in spring as K&H AS won the contract for site clean-up. Cost of removing contaminated soil (probably leaked fuel from the old airfield) & clean-up is 622000 euros and work has to be completed within 90 days.
Site clean-up is complete. Cost reached 1,7 million euros,but they also built few drains & ponds for that money.

Total volume of waste collected:
200 tons of garbage
1500m³ of soil contaminated with PCB
15000m³ of demolition waste
12500m³ of soil contaminated with oil
50000m³ of water contaminated with airplane fuel

Culture minister Rein Lang said on an interview yesterday,that it's priority for Culture Ministry to complete construction of new Maritime Museum in Seaplane Harbour in Tallinn and to start construction of Estonian National Museum in 2012,with or without the EU funding. If EU disapproves funding again,then ERM project will be funded the same way as KUMU art museum was - by Kultuurkapital allocations.

Right now RKAS is preparing to (re-)launch new tender for finding main contractor for ERM construction.

On other major projects,new national broadcasting (ERR) building and national opera are also in air. Culture ministry is not going to make any lists of new planned projects,as construction of current ones could take a decade or even more.

Source: http://uudised.err.ee/?06235841

Construction could begin in July,if ERM receives EU funding.

Museum's construction funding is being discussed by EU again and by February it should be clear it they will get the money for construction. If they do,construction will start in July,this year.

More about it here: http://www.tartupostimees.ee/707992/erm-loodab-euroopa-komisjoni-vastust-veebruaris/