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crawf
March 30th, 2009, 02:36 PM
Plans for Skycity casino to move from heritage site
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,25265668-2682,00.html

ADELAIDE casino owner Skycity Entertainment Group has revealed its hand on a move from the heritage-listed railway station site.

The company shelved a $30 million underground carpark development last year – a plan which would have cost the company $75,000 per parking space.

Your say: Where should the casino go – and what should replace it?

Adelaide general manager David Christian said relocation talks were yet to start with the site's owner, the State Government, but plans would take 18 months to two years to realise.

"That's something we may look at but it's nothing more than conceptual at this stage . . . to move we would need to have government approval and have to work very closely with them," Mr Christian said.

"As our chief executive (Nigel Morrison) has said, Adelaide should deserve a bigger casino."

He said Adelaide was the only capital city casino without a hotel as part of the complex, another reason to relocate.

"Of course we've got the Hyatt next door which is fantastic," he said.

Mr Christian gave no hints on any potential new home for the casino because the talks were only at the conceptual stage.

Plans for 400 car parks off Station Place cleared their final hurdle with Adelaide City Council in April, 2008, but the project was canned soon after – one of Mr Morrison's first major decisions after his March, 2008 appointment.

The company already had decided to turn around Adelaide's poor performing operations when it took down the "for sale" sign in late 2007 – despite three offers.

The casino was a star performer of the Skycity group in the December half, lifting group earnings by 18.3 per cent to $14.2 million.

Property Council executive director Nathan Paine said the iconic building would have "no problem" attracting another tenant if the casino relocated.

Skycity owns Skycity Darwin and three casino/hotels in NZ.

Alphaville
March 30th, 2009, 02:58 PM
With a mix of retail and other entertainment this could be a good thing for Adelaide. Maybe over the railway lines next to the Convention Centre?

The use of the station building for something else is amazing. Too good to be a casino.

how_good_is_he
March 30th, 2009, 03:23 PM
Any thoughts what business would work in the old building and where the new one could be built.
To want a hotel built adjacent would need a large land area and what suitable sites are there in the cbd [we expect it in city don't we]?

crawf
March 30th, 2009, 03:47 PM
This will open the door for the Railway Station to be transformed into a retail and entertainment mecca, including the existing bars and restaurants. Even possibility of a boutique 5-star hotel.

The main potential site for a new casino, is the city west railway yards.

Other potential sites would be the current Royal Adelaide Hospital site, old Clipsal site and maybe a few others.

AtD
March 30th, 2009, 11:27 PM
Keep the Casino there and let them build the hotel on Festival Plaza.

(I thought Adelaide was on its way to a glut of hotel rooms. The conversions of CML and Westpac look to be dead)

Mpol
March 31st, 2009, 02:31 AM
Awesome stuff. Some part of me loves the herritage look of our casino but hopes that the building and train station can get a face lift.

Pistol78
March 31st, 2009, 06:16 AM
I can't see this happening within the next 5 years.

Pistol78
March 31st, 2009, 06:17 AM
Sorry make that 10.

DM8
April 3rd, 2009, 05:49 AM
If/when the casino relocates, it then presents the opportunity for railway line extensions to the east. I can just imagine a tunnel running under King William Rd, along North Terrace with underground stations at places such the hospital, etc, then turn north east to run along the existing O-Bahn corridor.

Wishful thinking, I know.

metro_minotaur
April 5th, 2009, 09:05 AM
would be pretty cool if the casino moved out, then it could become a real Railway Station again, from what i've been told the interior is really amazing, but only gambling addicts can see it at the moment. When the casino is gone, the Railway Station needs to be completly re-developed to make it better.

it would need; a few shops, a food court, a pub and/or club, maybe a budget hotel on the upper floors like Hotel Ibis or Formule 1, perhaps an internet cafe, the Adelaide Metro centre could also move to the railway station, a couple of nice restaurants maybe, waiting lounges...

the posibilities are endless and i would hate it if the main building just became home to another casino or boutique 5 star hotel (something that would be better suited to its own new building)

eastadl
April 5th, 2009, 11:54 AM
I cant think of anywhere good to relocate the casino. So it might as well stay where it is. On weekends and nights that area only gets the pedestrian flows thanks to the casino. So keep it in the heart of thce city, dont move it to the fringes
As for a hotel, they should buy the vacant land over the road, where the twin student towers are proposed, caus that project looks like its fallen over for the time being

crawf
April 5th, 2009, 05:26 PM
would be pretty cool if the casino moved out, then it could become a real Railway Station again, from what i've been told the interior is really amazing, but only gambling addicts can see it at the moment. When the casino is gone, the Railway Station needs to be completly re-developed to make it better.

it would need; a few shops, a food court, a pub and/or club, maybe a budget hotel on the upper floors like Hotel Ibis or Formule 1, perhaps an internet cafe, the Adelaide Metro centre could also move to the railway station, a couple of nice restaurants maybe, waiting lounges...

the posibilities are endless and i would hate it if the main building just became home to another casino or boutique 5 star hotel (something that would be better suited to its own new building)

No thanks, I want something classy for the Railway Station

Alphaville
April 8th, 2009, 05:23 PM
No thanks, I want something classy for the Railway Station

Best Western?

christarrant
May 3rd, 2009, 12:45 PM
Front page of todays Sunday Mail ( big picture of mock up of Crown and Freshwater place photoshopped in front of River Torrens...LOL )

Casino plan for Adelaide's Torrens Lake

http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6606616,00.jpg

May 02, 2009 10:30am

A NEW Adelaide casino and hotel - styled on Melbourne's glamorous Crown complex - is proposed for one of two landmark city sites.

The bank of the Torrens Lake, in the city's West End, and the Royal Adelaide Hospital site, in the east, have been identified by two construction consortiums, which have started work on plans to be presented to casino operator SkyCity.

While SkyCity says it has not commissioned plans, it has made no secret of its wish for a new casino and hotel, and has now confirmed that ambitious relocation talks are planned with the State Government. Separate building industry, political and gaming sources also confirmed two new casino options are being drawn up, depending on who wins next year's State election:

A CASINO-HOTEL development on the Torrens Lake, modelled on Melbourne's Southbank precinct, as part of the Liberal Party plan for a sports stadium and entertainment precinct at the Riverside West site.

A SHOWPIECE North Tce casino-hotel on the existing RAH site, as part of the State Government's plan to turn the area into Adelaide's version of Melbourne's Federation Square.

Under both scenarios, a casino/hotel would ease the financial pressure on whoever wins government. Construction sources say the waterfront site would be a "better fit" than the North Tce RAH frontage but both have huge commercial appeal.

The move for a bigger casino comes as a Sunday Mail investigation found:

A SWEETHEART deal between the State Government and the casino prevents release of information showing how much gambling patrons lose;

DESPITE the information blackout, the investigation shows gamblers have lost almost $2 billion at the casino since it opened in 1985;

THE casino now rakes in an average of $100 million in gambling revenue a year – about half each from machines and tables – and revenue is soaring.

Casino operator SkyCity Adelaide has confirmed it wants to move from the heritage-listed Adelaide Railway Station site into bigger, purpose-built premises incorporating a hotel.

Management has embarked on a broad overhaul of its business plan, which is expected to result in a change of name and logo, as well as a shift to new premises built from scratch.

Any plan to move the casino shapes as political dynamite as the Labor and Liberal parties pin their futures on rival entertainment precincts based on retaining or demolishing the RAH.

SkyCity chief executive Nigel Morrison has told investors Adelaide deserves a bigger casino, while casino general manager David Christian confirmed relocation talks were planned with the Government.

However, when questioned about the "Southbank v Federation Square" option, Mr Christian released a short statement: "The casino has not held any discussions with any party about moving the casino and we are busy focusing on improving the business we have."

SkyCity last year dumped a $30 million car park plan at its existing site.

While at least two consortiums are working on proposals, a SkyCity spokeswoman said the casino had not engaged anyone to draw up plans.

"We are looking at a greenfields site for a move in the future but nothing has officially been discussed with any party at this stage," she said. "I am not aware whether other people are drawing up such plans to put to us."

In 2001, Adelaide developers revealed detailed plans for a $200 million, 22-story hotel with casino and 240 apartments on the railyards site and revived it again in 2006, but failed to win government support.

A new casino/hotel adds a new dimension to battlelines drawn by the political parties in the run-up to the March 2010 election. Labor is committed to building a $1.7 billion hospital on the city's western railyards site and turning the existing RAH campus into an entertainment area. The Liberals are committed to upgrading the existing RAH and instead building a sports stadium on the railyards site as part of a new entertainment complex.

Under either scenario, a new casino/hotel complex would help cover costs and guarantee a critical mass of patrons flock to the area regularly.

AtD
May 3rd, 2009, 01:40 PM
^^ All story and no substance, IMO. It's government land.

Pistol78
May 4th, 2009, 10:28 AM
Must have been a slow news day - all rumors and innuendo with a bad photoshop job.
The only good thing about the story was the history of the Adelaide Casino - the photo of two-up - the dealer in that picture still works there! Whenever you are in the Casino say g'day to Wayne when he is not watching tv!

Cruise
March 14th, 2010, 04:03 AM
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Cruise
March 14th, 2010, 05:12 AM
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/in-depth/mike-rann-and-labor-vow-river-torrens-adelaide-convention-centre-revamp/story-fn2sdwup-1225840537731

ADELAIDE'S Convention Centre will get a $394 million overhaul including construction of a new showroom to accommodate bigger events and conversion of the River Torrens banks into an entertainment strip, Labor has pledged.

Premier Mike Rann's has announcement includes the demolition of a building between the Intercontinental hotel and the main convention centre building.

He said the centre had become dated and needed an upgrade to win events like boat and car shows requiring large areas of floorspace.

"We need to increase the capacity of the Adelaide Convention Centre to compete with other states and prevent large-scale events being lost to interstate and overseas," he said.

"The industry already brings thousands of people here who spend money in our hotels, restaurants, shops and tours to our regions, supporting tourism operators and our economy more broadly."

The Labor development includes:

TWO-STAGE expansion of the centre to replace the plenary building with a 3500-seat venue and expanding the existing main building toward the Morphett St bridge.

UPGRADING the Riverbank to increase pedestrian numbers and enhance security.

WATER and light features in the Torrens.

Construction would create 2300 jobs and begin next year. The new facility would open in 2015.

Mr Rann denied the announcement was intended to win back voters wooed by the Liberals' plan to invigorate the Torrens precinct.

He dismissed the plans as a "Las Vegas by the Torrens", which was unrealistic and uncosted.

metro_minotaur
March 14th, 2010, 06:12 AM
ok so the choice for voters is:

Labor: New hospital, improved riverbank, bigger convention centre, bigger Adelaide Oval stadium...for the most part these entertainment areas will be close to public transport and the CBD.

Liberal: a couple of hosptial towers over the existing hospital site, new western riverbank area, opening parklands to developement, $1billion City Stadium and open plaza on the edge of the city.

Like I said in the other thread Labors plans make so much more sense for Adelaide in the long term, the liberals plans look very half-assed and poorly thought out, and just to be opposite to Labor. And this proposal just seems like a very well thought out compromise.

Solopop
March 14th, 2010, 06:18 AM
Wow that is awesome!

Much better than liberals idea.

Pistol78
March 14th, 2010, 08:02 AM
Me like.
I unfortunately read some of the comments on AdelaideNow and couldn't believe they thought this was a waste of money! Do they understand how important the convention sector is to our economy???

Giorgio
March 14th, 2010, 08:27 AM
Save yourself the time and frustration by never reading AdelaideNow comments again.

Shuz
March 14th, 2010, 08:29 AM
I read them also and they are just :wallbash:
Ugh, the frustration!

metro_minotaur
March 14th, 2010, 10:16 AM
Save yourself the time and frustration by never reading AdelaideNow comments again.

i never read AdelaideNow for that reason, ABC news is much better, i'm sure everyone will be reading ABC once AdelaideNow start charging people for their shit news articles. :lol:

also they kind of got their cities mixed up, the thumbnail pic for a rail accident in Adelaide had a picture of a melbourne train that has breaking issues...

Mpol
March 14th, 2010, 04:28 PM
Adelaidians and those on that bloody stupid sight, love to bitch how Adelaide is so sleepy and yet we get proposals and upgrades and all of that and we winge óh what a waste of money'. Bugs me so much. Spending this kind of money on the upgrade will really helpd to bring in money to the state. I love the area will have the medical centre/new hospital/tramline adjacent/torrens done up and new redeveloped stadium, ALL in the one area. Labor have done well here. Architecturly it could be more slick but I think it's great none the less.

yousername
March 15th, 2010, 12:28 AM
I really like it. i posted a bigger response but my internetz cut out when i clicked post.

metro_minotaur
March 15th, 2010, 08:16 AM
i posted a bigger response but my internetz cut out when i clicked post.

i hate it when that happens :(

spiralout
March 15th, 2010, 08:23 AM
Melbourne's new convention centre featuring Adelaide's favourite man and royal tosser John Brumby.
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I love Tim Shaw...what a wanka "Melbourne has the best pillows" ha

seems like a good project for Adelaide

Cruise
March 15th, 2010, 08:37 AM
I like Melbourne's mayor better than Brumby.
He always says the most intelligent things about Adelaide

metro_minotaur
March 15th, 2010, 08:58 AM
haha melbourne at night spectacular? how about make sure you dont get mugged/raped/stabbed. and wow that tosser is really excited about melbourne i wonder if he's been anywhere else :lol:

this might just be my opinion but the convention centre in Melb looks awful, esp compared to somewhere like Hong Kong's for example :lol:

spiralout
March 15th, 2010, 09:46 AM
I like Melbourne's mayor better than Brumby.
He always says the most intelligent things about Adelaide

:lol: wtf did he say again? they should shut it down or some shit? He is such a shithead.

He used to be opposition leader and he sucked badly. No one likes him. The only reason why he got voted in was the name sounded vaguely familiar. Besides he is small time (there are only 70,000 people) in his jurisdiction

spiralout
March 15th, 2010, 09:53 AM
haha melbourne at night spectacular? how about make sure you dont get mugged/raped/stabbed. and wow that tosser is really excited about melbourne i wonder if he's been anywhere else :lol:

this might just be my opinion but the convention centre in Melb looks awful, esp compared to somewhere like Hong Kong's for example :lol:

yeah i like the outsie but meh on the inside

Giorgio
March 15th, 2010, 04:56 PM
Lol at the Melb Convention video. He acts like hes never seen a convention centre before!! And I love he he makes not of loving the "Food and the wine" in Melb, even though that has always been Adelaide's forte!

Mato2000
March 16th, 2010, 08:21 AM
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
Translation of all that: Melbourne is better than Jesus/Allah/Buddah/Xenu and Fritzl put together
"Melbourne Hotels have the best pillows" :rofl:

I love Melbourne... but this is a classic

yousername
March 20th, 2010, 02:02 PM
you're in again Ranny, get your shovel, 8am outside the convention centre?

Mpol
March 20th, 2010, 02:36 PM
I expected it to be so much closer. Bloody media drumming it all up.

crawf
May 12th, 2010, 08:08 AM
Kevin Foley hints at new additions to torrens riverbank
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/kevin-foley-hints-at-new-additions-to-torrens-riverbank-plan/story-e6frea6u-1225865572241
TREASURER Kevin Foley has foreshadowed "grander" new additions to Adelaide's riverbank precinct while defending costings for the Adelaide Oval Redevelopment.

The Opposition this morning raised fresh concerns over the credibility of the redevelopment because the Federal Government made no mention of a funding commitment for the project in yesterday's Budget.

Opposition finance spokesman Rob Lucas said the absence of federal money raised "significant doubt" about the project, which he believed could blowout to a cost of up to $600 millon.

However, Mr Foley said the State Government had an offer of $100 million of more "on the table" and would ask for that money in the financial year in which it was needed.

Construction is not due to start for about two years and will take about another two years to complete.

Mr Foley reiterated the State Government would contribute a maximum $450 million to the oval upgrade but would not say if any federal contribution would be counted within this figure or in additon.

He said he was "very confident" the "rock solid" proposal would go ahead and he had received no indication football and cricket stakeholders would not reach a consensus before the July 1 deadline.

In the meantime architects and engineers had been "working away at a rapid rate" to complete designs.

"When we get the go ahead from the codes we will be at an incredibly advanced stage and we'll be able to demonstrate ... that we simply haven't been waiting and doing nothing," he said.

The oval upgrade will be part of a "fully integrated riverbank precinct", linking with Casino, Festival Theatre and upgraded Convention Centre, and Mr Foley hinted "there might be more" to the overall plan.

"The reason I might be trying to hold back some of the excitement I have within myself for this project is that we might be designing other things or we might be changing a few things, we might be making it a grander project in other aspects," he said.

But he ruled out a roof for the new stadium, instead suggesting the additions would be elsewhere in the precinct.

However, Mr Lucas was "sceptical about the prospects" of the oval upgrade and did not believe the July deadline would be met.

metro_minotaur
May 12th, 2010, 11:35 AM
Instead of Additions i'd rather see somethings removed from our riverbank..

the riverbank would look so much better without the awful Intercontinental Hotel building and the rest of the ASER precinct: all of those 1980's eyesores dont deserve the honour of being on North Terrace on such a prime riverbank position.

:cheers:

wardenclyffeforever
May 12th, 2010, 03:28 PM
Oh puh-leeeeease :ohno:. We have a hard enough time getting things to be built in this city, don't start telling them to take things down!!

crawf
May 12th, 2010, 06:00 PM
Adelaide Oval Redevelopment is looking more certain after the AFL Boss Andrew Demetriou declared on Tuesday that the SACA and SANFL are close on making an agreement. Hopefully we will see the final design within the next couple of months

There has been still no word on the Memorial Drive Tennis Centre, last artist impressions showed a new tennis arena replacing the venue. So maybe we might hear something about this in the upcoming State Budget or later in the year.
http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200912/r479899_2437656.jpg

I reckon something will be done with the Festival Centre and the northern riverbank area in the next few years...

Instead of Additions i'd rather see somethings removed from our riverbank..

the riverbank would look so much better without the awful Intercontinental Hotel building and the rest of the ASER precinct: all of those 1980's eyesores dont deserve the honour of being on North Terrace on such a prime riverbank position.

:cheers:

The Riverside building is okay, though I love the Intercontinental/Hyatt Regency building. It makes such a nice big impact along the Torrens and fits so well with the Festival Centre.

http://i40.tinypic.com/2cdwc40.jpg
Taken by me on the Iphone a couple of weeks ago

The other 1980s buildings is the original Convention Centre (Australia's first purpuse built Convention Centre) and Exhibition Hall. These will be demolished to make way for a expanded Convention Centre, featuring better interaction (incl Glass!) with North Terrace and Morphett Street.

yousername
May 12th, 2010, 08:46 PM
http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200912/r479899_2437656.jpg

:drool: It's just so pretty. Me love the bridge longtime.

spiller9
May 13th, 2010, 08:17 AM
Crawf, RE: the tennis centre on memorial drive, if you look closely at the render you posted, it seems like the plan is just to add a new roof to the existing facility - I see a hint of the old red brick of the existing structure beneath that pearl white roof (I also remember reading talk of just a roof being added when this development first propsed).

Mpol
May 13th, 2010, 02:42 PM
If the Festical centre and the grass section in front of it are part of making the riverside redevelopment more grand, it would top off a wonderful re-design. The western side of the city will truly transform. I hope it all can go ahead. Infact I'd much rather this than a Vic Square re-vamp. I know both are needed but the riverside and Rundle Mall facelift are more nessessary IMO and would attract more people.

And whilst we're at it, close off Rundle St from cars and make it a pedistrial mall ala Rundle Mall, just for high end fashion!

crawf
May 13th, 2010, 04:55 PM
Crawf, RE: the tennis centre on memorial drive, if you look closely at the render you posted, it seems like the plan is just to add a new roof to the existing facility - I see a hint of the old red brick of the existing structure beneath that pearl white roof (I also remember reading talk of just a roof being added when this development first propsed).

My mistake I think you are right.

Tennis SA proposed a plan back in 2008 for a multi-million dollar upgrade of Memorial Drive, including two new stands on the western and eastern sides.

I hope that project is dead and they actually demolish the whole thing and build a decent tennis arena after the Adelaide Oval Revamp, so we can seriously compete with other cities in hosting big tennis matches.

I really don't understand why the State Government doesn't lure a tennis event to Adelaide and hold it at the Entertainment Centre until we get a decent venue, works well in Perth with the Hopman Cup.

Mpol
May 14th, 2010, 05:09 PM
They could... the arena could play second fiddle as well and be turned into a smaller arean (a court 2 if you will.) Though Burswood as so many other great facilities. Nearby hotel, many more tennis courts... I do like taht idea but the area would need to be beefed up, tennis facility wise.

I agree though. A tennis centre like the one built in Brisbane would be amazing. Perhaps not quite as big but something as modern. It would need to facilitate a profesisonal, tournament play.

Cruise
May 15th, 2010, 10:01 AM
The upgrade of the Memorial Drive tennis centre (RE: the roof) is so it can be used as a post match function centre for the AFC and PAFC.

One of the SANFL demands were that there be appropriate faclities at Adelaide Oval for the teams.

So it will be used as Adelaide Oval's 'Crows Shed' so to say.

crawf
July 3rd, 2010, 06:17 PM
Adelaide Casino move to Torrens
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/adelaide-casino-move-to-torrens/story-e6frea83-1225887508271

TORRENS riverbank land immediately west of the Morphett St bridge is the likely site for a new Adelaide Casino.

Relocating to a new purpose-built casino complex overlooking the Torrens Lake is the subject of confidential post-election talks between the State Government and casino management - with both parties bent on progressing the much-talked about riverbank precinct into a "a major tourist and entertainment hub".

A key feature of a new casino complex is likely to be underground parking for several thousand cars, which would potentially solve parking issues for a redeveloped Adelaide Oval.

The Sunday Mail can report:

TREASURER Kevin Foley has confirmed he has been in renewed talks with the casino over a waterfront redevelopment, noting casino management has "exciting ideas".

WATER features and light shows are part of developing plans to turn the Torrens Lake area into an entertainment hub.

DISCUSSIONS have included options for either a boisterous Las Vegas-style resort and a more discreet European-style gambling plaza but the consensus appears to be a more home-grown development incorporating plenty of alfresco dining and walkways to take advantage of the outdoor-friendly climate.

THE LOCATION just west of the Morphett St bridge overlooking the Torrens Lake is regarded as the best site for a new casino-hotel-entertainment venue.

RELOCATING the casino creates new opportunities for transforming the historic Adelaide Railway Station.

Casino general manager David Christian this week said the casino wanted to be part of a new riverside entertainment precinct linked to the redeveloped Adelaide Oval and new Royal Adelaide Hospital in the western railyards.

"Adelaide Casino is one of several major businesses that call the riverbank precinct home and fully supports the idea of turning the area into a major tourist and entertainment hub," Mr Christian said.

"We believe that Adelaide deserves a bigger casino but there is due process to work through before we finalise any plans and present them to the State Government." Mr Foley revealed during a recent business lunch speech he had been in talks with casino management but declined to elaborate on Friday, before heading overseas on a defence trade mission.

He has made a series of speeches recently - speeches which have praised Melbourne's Southbank development, which has the Crown Casino as one of its key attractions.

Last month, Mr Foley told an American Chamber of Commerce lunch the CBD was "underdone".

"We need to be more pro-development," he said.

At another function, he said: "Do we really want to see Adelaide in 10 years' time with a River Torrens precinct that is like going for a stroll in an Outback town where no one has any money or interest in developing something?"

In May 2009, the Sunday Mail reported two construction consortiums were working on plans to present to SkyCity for new casinos at two landmark sites: Either on the Torrens river bank or on the current RAH site.

Casino operator SkyCity Adelaide previously has confirmed it wants to move from the heritage-listed Adelaide Railway Station site into bigger, purpose-built premises incorporating a hotel, with chief executive Nigel Morrison telling investors Adelaide deserved a bigger casino.

In 2008, casino management shelved plans for a $30 million underground car park at its current railway station location, as it looked at "conceptual" plans to relocate.

In 2001, Adelaide developers revealed detailed plans for a $200 million, 22-storey hotel with casino and 240 apartments on the railyards site, and revived them in 2006, but failed to win Government support.

yousername
July 3rd, 2010, 06:30 PM
Backwater? Not with a new riverside (http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/opinion/backwater-not-with-a-new-riverside/story-e6freabl-1225887527281)

Sunday Mail (SA) July 04, 2010 12:02am

GROWING moves to revamp Adelaide's riverside precinct and turn it into a genuine entertainment and tourism hub complete with casino, cafes and walkways present the city a once-in-a-generation opportunity.

That is why it is so important to get it right.

Along with the Royal Adelaide Hospital redevelopment on the railyards and the planned Adelaide Oval upgrade, this is a chance to seize the day and turn Adelaide's limited lakeside area into an exciting pedestrian magnet to be enjoyed by all. Done properly, it would transform Adelaide, just as Melbourne's Southbank development gave new life to that section of the Yarra.

People such as Treasurer Kevin Foley, Urban Development Minister Paul Holloway and the Property Council's George Inglis have let their frustrations flow in recent times with tirades against people who oppose developments. Mr Foley appears to have been softening up the public with vehement attacks on people who would stand in the way of the riverbank's transformation.


Perhaps Mr Foley and Co miss the point.

The good folk of Adelaide may occasionally be a little conservative in their views but are not afraid of embracing change - indeed, this state has been at the forefront of notable social changes over the decades.

However, we have also seen the results of dodgy developments - and borne the cost. Remember the multifunction polis? How about the phallic Capital City tower that was supposed to soar over the city as a diversion from the demise of John Martin's?

The list goes on.

Our citizens have a legitimate right to question developments, probe them, check the pros and cons and voice their opinion. They enjoy a debate. If a project measures up, they will embrace it. Especially if it is done in a transparent, inclusive way, not sprung on them as a fait accompli.

There is a healthy suspicion in this city of people who would concrete the Hills Face Zone, chainsaw ancient trees to build carparks and bulldoze heritage buildings to whack up dog-box apartments to be flogged for a profit. While it is easy to dismiss opponents of developments as "whingers", we have a civic right to ask questions to maintain Adelaide as one of the world's great boutique cities.

The Adelaide Oval redevelopment is a case in point. Even with vigorous questioning Mr Foley was unable to recall - until after the election - warnings of a cost blowout that taxpayers will wear. The Oval plan remains questionable amid concerns that it will be a compromise patch-up.

However, the riverside precinct upgrade could be a different story. If it is planned and presented carefully, it will win the hearts and minds of the public. Just get it right.

crawf
July 3rd, 2010, 06:53 PM
A key feature of a new casino complex is likely to be underground parking for several thousand cars, which would potentially solve parking issues for a redeveloped Adelaide Oval.

This sounds like a good solution for Adelaide Oval.

metro_minotaur
July 4th, 2010, 06:30 AM
^^ We already have a railway station that is surrounded by parking stations and a shit load in the CBD so Adelaide Oval is covered for transport and parking.

Even today, 50,000 people could drive into the city and easilly find a parking space within 1 km of the Oval.


But anyways, sounds like this article is just old news which the sunday mail is just recycling for a story in response to some Melbourne-Loving-Fuckwit's coments??? Or has there actually been some progress on this development?

AtD
July 4th, 2010, 08:08 AM
The article is on six monthly rotation. I look forward to reading it again in January 2011.

Cruise
July 4th, 2010, 09:20 AM
It should be all built undercover imo

metro_minotaur
July 4th, 2010, 09:52 AM
^^ and fully enclosed and airconditioned so i can stay cool in summer :lol:

crawf
July 4th, 2010, 12:37 PM
This Casino vision looks like its becoming a serious plan, Foley did hint weeks ago that they are looking at adding "grander" new additions to the Riverbank development. (http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/kevin-foley-hints-at-new-additions-to-torrens-riverbank-plan/story-e6frea6u-1225865572241) ...

While the current casino is nice and elegant, Adelaide still needs a larger casino/entertainment complex with more restaurants, cafes, bars and possibly apartments, cinema and shops. It would give this city a major tourist drawcard it has craved for years... I can just picture a Las Vegas style casino/5-star hotel with a impressive water feature, opposite the new glass entrance of an expanded Adelaide Convention Centre on a revamped Morphett Street.

I'm staying optimistic with this whole Adelaide Oval/Riverbank/Medical Precinct development, it has major potential of changing this city forever and putting us on the global map. Long overdue!

^^ We already have a railway station that is surrounded by parking stations and a shit load in the CBD so Adelaide Oval is covered for transport and parking.

Even today, 50,000 people could drive into the city and easilly find a parking space within 1 km of the Oval.

The problem is many of the major carparks are a fair walking distance from Adelaide Oval, there is a couple along North Terrace and Hindley Street but not enough for A.O. Not to mention these carparks throughout the city can get packed already on Friday nights and weekends.

crawf
July 4th, 2010, 12:53 PM
Merged Riverbank and Casino threads.

Shuz
July 4th, 2010, 03:12 PM
Global map? Lol, don't kid yourself Crawf. It'll put us on the regional map, at most.

crawf
July 4th, 2010, 06:06 PM
Call me optimistic, but if these projects are designed right it will give Adelaide greater international exposure hence putting us back onto the international map with the other major Australian cities. Not just for entertainment, but conference facilities and medical research; this would also improve the city's shocking reputation locally and nationally.

The construction that is starting to happen north of North Terrace is pretty big on a national scale, the total cost will most likely go past $3 billion dollars in the next 5-7 years.

BTW When I say international/global map, ofcourse I don't mean in the same league as international heavyweights like London, Paris, Milan, Hong Kong, New York etc...

yousername
July 13th, 2010, 07:05 PM
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/9325/adelaideconventioncentr.jpg
http://www.businessevents.australia.com/rsc/Assoc_website_2010/ACC_expansion_May2010.pdf

crawf
July 13th, 2010, 11:05 PM
As I said on SSC... I wouldn't take this concept very serious, it's very basic and missing a few things like the redevelopment of Exhibition Hall

Though it does give you an idea at how big this project will be.

Shuz
July 14th, 2010, 04:43 AM
Purely conceptual.

I think the end result will include more significant alterations to the existing Convention Centre; the glass facade on the riverfront will be seamless. I'd hope also there'll be a reconfiguration of the car-parking arrangements utilizing the space between the existing convention centre and Morphett Street bridge, and on the other side of the bridge also - so that there is provision for the expansion of the Adelaide Railway Station to include at least 2 more platforms closer to the North Terrace side. The trees on the bridge is fake - can't happen as there is no deep soil for it to grow.

Exhibition Centre will be a new building entirely; won't be copy-pasta of Convention Centre (expect something pretty funky there) And I reckon they should mount the riverbank so that the hills front directly onto the pedestrian throughfare, covering up the carparks.

Also agree the boatsheds need to be demolished.

My 2c.

crawf
August 27th, 2010, 01:29 PM
State Government and private sector to spend $1.1bn to make Adelaide's riverbank come alive
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/bn-will-make-adelaide-riverbank-come-alive/story-e6frea83-1225910998027

THE banks of the River Torrens will come to life in about five years as $1.1 billion is injected into the precinct from the State Government and private sector.

Infrastructure Minister Patrick Conlon said in addition to the money the government had committed for the Convention Centre and Adelaide Oval, the casino had $200 million for an upgrade and the Intercontinental was likely to invest $50 million in realigning the hotel to the river.

"We've never before had the opportunity to do it as one precinct, we've got every major player there, bar the Festival Centre, ready to invest," he said.

"At the end of the day we will not skimp in terms of dollars but what we will ask for is world class design.

"What we want is design in the precinct that will last 100 years with $1.1 billion to go in there why can't we achieve that?"


Mr Conlon said he expected the time line for each of the projects to be completed would be between 2014 and 2016.

"The Oval is the one that's trickier than the rest," he said. "Everyone wants football to go there now.

"We'd be looking at having AFL football at the oval in 2014.

"The Convention Centre is 2015, so what we need to do is incorporate the casino and InterContinental."

A masterplan would be created for the precinct, however because the development included private parties Mr Conlon said it could not be too restrictive.

He said there were no specific plans to include smaller, new businesses at this stage.

"The precinct will open up through four major players and then will open up to other opportunities," Mr Conlon said.

...

yousername
August 27th, 2010, 04:46 PM
Just fucking start.

spiller9
August 28th, 2010, 03:50 AM
The AO development will surely get things going once it's begun. That will start, what early next year following the cricket season once the sma comes to an agreement on march 31?

Cruise
August 28th, 2010, 04:16 AM
In my understanding there is going to be a press conference held during the week which will bang out the final details about Adelaide Oval.

And if they are expecting AFL to begin playing there at the start of the 2014 season i would expect works on Adelaide Oval to begin as early as next year.

metro_minotaur
August 31st, 2010, 02:00 PM
new fly thru on the Premier's youtube channel:

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Melb_aviator
August 31st, 2010, 02:04 PM
All very promising. Lets hope it turns out well.

Alphaville
August 31st, 2010, 02:12 PM
Will easily be the best convention facility in the country when complete.

It looks substantially larger than the Melbourne complex which is the current biggest.

Melbourneguy
September 2nd, 2010, 10:23 AM
Will easily be the best convention facility in the country when complete.

It looks substantially larger than the Melbourne complex which is the current biggest.

The best in what way and how much larger will it be? You must have some inside knowledge.

scorpiax
September 2nd, 2010, 12:16 PM
I'm puzzled why there hasn't been much interest in commercial development along the riverbank (particularly eateries, cafes etc.) onlooking the Torrens. Hopefully the 'retail promenade' concept proposed in the fly-through video will accommodate for this. That said, some substantial information is needed to lift this project from being a vision.

BNE01
September 3rd, 2010, 05:58 AM
Wow this project looks amazing! I generally hate casinos but the upgraded facilities in the above video look awesome.

When will work start? And what stage will occur when?

crawf
September 5th, 2010, 02:27 PM
Let me walk you through my Oval vision
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/let-me-walk-you-through-my-oval-vision/story-e6frea83-1225914377355

NEXT time you are in that part of the city, try walking east from Morphett St along North Terrace, past the Convention Centre, the Riverside Building, the InterContinental, the Casino and Parliament House.

Try breaking through from North Terrace to the grass of the riverbanks. It isn't easy.

Adelaide Oval is only a few hundred metres from that part of North Terrace, but to get there you have to walk up North Terrace, left at King William Rd, then another walk left back to the Oval.

Wouldn't it be good if we could easily move through those buildings and instead of banning them, include the green riverbanks as part of our CBD life.

Wouldn't it be good if we could walk from the riverbank across a short footbridge to Adelaide Oval.

And wouldn't it be good if we could knock off work in the city on a Friday night, take the free tram to North Terrace, where we could meet friends at a riverside restaurant for a few drinks or an early meal and then join the crowds streaming across the footbridge to see the Crows excite a capacity crowd under Adelaide Oval lights.

These things will no longer be in the category of "wouldn't it be good".

These are things that are going to happen unless we as a city give in to the naysayers. We have a lot of powerful reasons why these things should happen here.

We have a united voice from football's leadership wanting to return to Adelaide Oval and share a world-class venue with cricket. We have a $535 million State Government contribution to make the move possible.

We have a $394 million budget for the upgrade of the Convention Centre, the casino having $250 million for an upgrade and a likely substantial investment from the InterContinental Hotel. That adds up to more than $1.1 billion available for investment in the precinct between Morphett St and King William Rd.

That's about 500m in terms of road frontage.

Those funds will be committed not just to the built form but to the precinct upgrade, and we will use our newly created Design Commission to make sure it is planned as a whole.

Consider that, at present, the best view of the city from the river is probably from the Popeye boat. Surely we can do better than that.

The proposed Oval upgrade includes three levels of glass-walled entertainment/dining areas looking back at the city from the southern end. It will be a view we've never had and I think will inspire other entertainment investments on that side of the river.

It will take this man-made water course and, by inviting people in for leisure and recreation, change it from an under-utilised area to unmatched asset.

There will be people who don't want some, or all, of this to happen. They are entitled to their view, I simply hope it doesn't prevail.

I want to be there in the dying minutes of an AFL final and see a game changing mark in the goalsquare.

Then I want to take that excitement outside to a world-class precinct and a vibrant CBD.

C'mon, let's have a crack.


I found the bold part the most interesting, view would be pretty spectacular at night and even during the day. Also sounds like more is planned for the northern part of the riverbank.

crawf
September 5th, 2010, 03:04 PM
Wow this project looks amazing! I generally hate casinos but the upgraded facilities in the above video look awesome.

When will work start? And what stage will occur when?

You could say it's already started, the new western grandstand is not far from completion and the new SA Health & Medical Research Centre has started construction.

Next year I believe the redevelopment of the Convention Centre and Adelaide Oval will commence, not sure about the Casino and Riverbank Precinct.

The aim is to have it all completed by 2014-16.

crawf
September 5th, 2010, 03:15 PM
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spiller9
September 6th, 2010, 03:07 AM
I dont like Conlon at all, but he has a point with this article. I can't wait for this to start taking shape. Adelaide really is going to be a front runner again once this development is completed

Shuz
September 6th, 2010, 03:42 AM
If renders and flythroughs are any indication of whats to come - a fewpoints to note regarding the Convention Centre...

1. The existing loading dock at the rear of the building looks will have to make way for the expansion of the building to Morphett Street. What intrigues me is where will the loading dock then be relocated to? I can't really envision that they'll retain it within the envelope of the new building as that would mean that they'll have two detached halls.

2. The North Terrace frontage looks as if the carpark will no longer exist. Where will all this carparking be offset to?

3. And seriously whats with the trees on Morphett Street bridge? Are they planning on planting fake neon-covered palms?

4. I really, really, really do hope that some provision is made for the expansion of the Adelaide Railway Station to accomodate more platforms. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't it used to have 13 platforms, of which 4 were removed to make way for public transport's arch nemesis -carparking!

Cruise
September 6th, 2010, 06:48 AM
3. And seriously whats with the trees on Morphett Street bridge? Are they planning on planting fake neon-covered palms?



I would guess those trees were just put there by someone abusing their artistic licence.

crawf
September 6th, 2010, 12:16 PM
If renders and flythroughs are any indication of whats to come - a fewpoints to note regarding the Convention Centre...

1. The existing loading dock at the rear of the building looks will have to make way for the expansion of the building to Morphett Street. What intrigues me is where will the loading dock then be relocated to? I can't really envision that they'll retain it within the envelope of the new building as that would mean that they'll have two detached halls.

The loading dock will be relocated to a undercover facility in the south western end of the Convention Centre (video shows this)

2. The North Terrace frontage looks as if the carpark will no longer exist. Where will all this carparking be offset to?

The carpark isn't going anywhere, the only difference will be the current cage setup and planter boxes along North Terrace will be replaced with retail space.

crawf
November 12th, 2010, 03:42 AM
Riverbank development master plan
ADELAIDE'S Riverbank precinct will undergo a master plan process, Infrastructure Minister Patrick Conlon has announced.

The Government has called for registrations of interest to prepare a fully integrated plan for the precinct, which covers the Casino grounds, Convention Centre, Festival Centre and Adelaide Oval.

Mr Conlon said the plan was a "watershed" moment for Adelaide.

"The location and character of the area are critical to the layout of Adelaide and provide an important link between the city and its picturesque river environment, as well as re-energising our city," he said.

"Over the next few weeks we are asking the best urban architects from Australia and the world to give us their best ideas."

Development of the new Riverbank Master Plan will be a two stage process beginning with Registrations of Interest from suitably qualified design teams.

It will culminate in the awarding of a tender early in the new year and preparation of the Master Plan by the middle of 2011.

AdelaideNow

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crawf
January 22nd, 2011, 07:29 AM
River banking on a new Torrens icon
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/river-banking-on-a-new-torrens-icon/story-e6frea6u-1225992584190

WORLD-RENOWNED architect Larry Oltmanns will oversee the $350 million Convention Centre expansion.

The London-based architect, whose company Vx3 designed the landmark Hong Kong Convention Centre and the NATO headquarters in Brussels, says the expanded Adelaide centre will create an "icon" for the city.

Here to begin the design process with Adelaide architects Woods Bagot, Mr Oltmanns said the project was an opportunity to reconnect the city with the riverbank, as envisioned in Colonel William Light's original plan.

"The real mission of this is to improve the quality of life of the city," he said. "Beyond the obvious economic impact, there are great opportunities to create urban spaces to connect the city with the riverbank."

The project involves two new buildings on the river - one to the west fronting Morphett St and one to the east, which will replace the existing older part of the centre.

Mr Oltmanns said Adelaide could expect a landmark building, but added it was not a "beauty contest".

"The sustainability and timelessness of the building are perhaps more important than just being out there. It has to feel fantastic 10 to 15 years from now," he said.

Convention Centre chief executive Alec Gilbert said the first stage of the new centre would be completed by 2014, in time for an international aquaculture conference. The second stage should be finished by 2016.

"Our vision is that the extension needs to be iconic not only in terms of design and its impact on the precinct, but also in terms of operation," he said. "We need to futureproof ourselves and not just represent best practice as we are now but moving into the next 20 years."

Mr Gilbert said the expansion would deliver "enormous positive flow-on effects for the state economy". "It will reinforce the centre as a national and international industry competitor," he said.

A concept design is expected to be completed by the end of March with construction expected to begin by September this year.

...

VHSLE CRUISER
January 23rd, 2011, 09:56 AM
Where abouts in the Adelaide Casino moving to?

What they ever consider building buildings on the other side of the Torrens like in Melbourne?

Shuz
January 24th, 2011, 05:20 AM
In case you didn't realise, the other side of the Torrens is "parkland". NIMBY's would have a field day protesting against any idea of such development. Not going to happen.

metro_minotaur
January 24th, 2011, 07:09 AM
What they ever consider building buildings on the other side of the Torrens like in Melbourne?

Firstly, why should Adelaide copy Melbourne? and secondly, it's not exactly a good idea to build up both sides of a river, better to leave one side open as a flood plane, you know just incase..

and I dont like to think of myself as a nimby but i'd rather see the casino, apartments, hotels and office towers get built in the very under-developed CBD instead of in the parklands.

iTouch
January 26th, 2011, 03:58 AM
The parklands across the river is one of the few places where it's green all year round. Destroying that would be devastating not only to NIMBY's but many people in Adelaide including himself.
It's also a good place to take chicks out on dates :lol: but thats beside the point.

By the way, Hey guys ^_^ it's iTouch(Myself) from Sensational-Adelaide.

spiller9
January 27th, 2011, 12:26 PM
Welcome to ssc i-touch

crawf
February 4th, 2011, 02:57 PM
Baulderstone and Woods Bagot have won a large contract to extend the Adelaide Convention Centre, with construction to commence later this year.

Main concepts aren't expected to be released until late next month. However these concepts bellow give you an idea of what the North Terrace frontage may look like, while the grass areas on top of the Convention Centre looks far to much fantasy and pointless.

http://cdn.archdaily.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/1293116317-small-02-1000x664.jpg

http://cdn.archdaily.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/1293116350-small-06-1000x562.jpg

http://cdn.archdaily.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/1293116308-small-01-1000x664.jpg

http://www.archdaily.com/98524/adelaide-convention-centre-redevelopment-proposal-hassell/

VHSLE CRUISER
February 5th, 2011, 05:37 AM
The last picture look quit nice, the grass on the roof top is going to far imo.

Some taller buildings in this shot would set it off.

crawf
February 5th, 2011, 06:37 AM
Should make it clear those concepts are from Hassell which was unsuccessful in bidding for the tender, so don't take those concepts above too seriously.

P.S those rowing sheds need to be demolished and relocated somewhere else along the Torrens River.

spiller9
February 7th, 2011, 12:17 AM
its a pitty they didnt win, renders look shit hot!

crawf
February 25th, 2011, 03:49 PM
....

Adelaide Casino's $250m upgrade progressing
MEREDITH BOOTH From: AdelaideNow February 17, 2011 12:00AM

ADELAIDE Casino owner Sky City has shortlisted two designs for its $250 million riverside redevelopment.

One of the designs is from an SA-based architect, chief executive Nigel Morrison said.

The New Zealand-based group, which announced a 2.2 per cent fall in net half year profit of $51 million yesterday, said plans were well progressed for the redvelopment to include a boutique hotel, expanded gaming facilities, bars, restaurants and carparking.

Mr Morrison, who will unveil more detail on the development in a couple of weeks, said Adelaide also had great potential to increase its visits from high-roller gamblers from interstate and overseas with relaxed regulation on gaming machines.

He said international gamblers from China and Thailand helped double revenue at its Auckland casino in the first half to $1.1 billion, something Adelaide Casino could capitalise on.

"These players can spend $20,000 to $30,000 on a gaming machine. This is probably like you or I spending $10. But in Adelaide they all work with coins," Mr Morrison said.

He said SA needed to relax regulations, in line with the nation, to allow credit card-style machines in its VIP gaming areas for these "high net worth individuals", some of them locals flown to interstate casinos rather than in Adelaide.

"The Government's losing a lot of tax on that."

Adelaide Casino lifted revenue by just $500,000 to $74.4 million but pre-tax earnings climbed 5.6 per cent to $16.1 million in the six months to December 31 thanks to "good cost controls and food and beverage revenue", Mr Morrison said.

Smoking bans in Darwin impacted on Australian casino earnings which fell 2 per cent to $NZ47.2 million and the economic environment this year would contine to remain "challenging", he said.

He said the casino mirrored the fortunes of Australian discretionary retailers.

Sky City reiterated its full year profit forecast would be about $96.1 million

metro_minotaur
April 3rd, 2011, 07:30 AM
one image of the casino expansion plans:

http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2011/03/25/1226028/212567-proposed-adelaide-casino.jpg

and a video:

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also the Casino said they'd only build this after the completion of Adelaide Oval, if the oval doesnt get redeveloped, they will invest elsewhere!

yousername
April 3rd, 2011, 11:57 AM
I'm not sure if I hate it or love it. Just build it.

crawf
April 4th, 2011, 06:02 AM
Looks far much better in the video, despite it being extremely cheesy.


Casino's $250m vision
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/casinos-250m-vision-revealed/story-e6frea83-1226028203443
SKYCITY casino has unveiled its vision of a renewed Adelaide Riverbank Precinct.

The casino today publicly backed a revitalisation of the area on the back of the proposed $535 million Adelaide Oval project that would give the area some "critical mass".

The company is currently considering a $250 million overhaul of its heritage site. SkyCity last year celebrated its 25th year at the railway station.

The vision includes a new floor extending out over car parking to the river with strong lines in keeping with the Festival Centre.

Large glass panes would allow gamers to look out over the riverbank from a site no more than 700 metres from the area’s key attractions – including a redeveloped Adelaide Oval.

SkyCity chairman Rod McKeogh told an Advantage Adelaide luncheon that the redevelopment represented a "once in a lifetime opportunity" to redevelop a key part of Adelaide's infrastructure.

"You really are sitting on a phenomenal opportunity."

SkyCity today met with State Government Ministers Patrick Conlon and Jack Snelling to discuss the project including the regulatory framework against which the Casino operates.

"We want to make sure they understand what we think about it and the part we want to play in it," he said.

Mr McKeogh urged Adelaide residents to support the Adelaide Oval redevelopment as it would give the city a key attractor an oval on the city's fringe that would drive tourism.

The nearby Convention Centre is also about to start a $394 million upgrade it believes will put it ahead of the game by attracting large international events to Adelaide's riverfront.

S-A thread for this
http://www.sensational-adelaide.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=2856

VHSLE CRUISER
April 5th, 2011, 12:54 AM
Will the new casino relocation be including underground carparking?

kichigai
June 29th, 2011, 02:08 AM
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/ipad/revealing-the-new-heart-of-adelaide/story-fn6bqpju-1226083782143

http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2011/06/29/1226083/834684-riverfront.jpg
http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2011/06/29/1226083/835441-riverfront.jpg

THE Riverbank precinct will become Adelaide's new city centre, stretching from King William Rd along the Torrens to the old Adelaide Gaol site.

As the Government unveils the final designs today for the $350 million Adelaide Convention Centre expansion, above, Premier Mike Rann says he has asked the Capital City Committee to draw up options for the jail site and also the old Royal Adelaide Hospital site.

"These developments are going to change the face of Adelaide," he told The Advertiser.

"It is all about revitalising the city centre. We had a city which had turned its back on the river and now we are making the river the centre of the city.

"We need to look at what we can do and to have a new vista stretching all along the river, taking in the convention centre, the new medical centre and the new hospital until it gets to the old Adelaide Gaol site."

He said they would be the Government's next two big projects.

Mr Rann said the convention centre redevelopment meant that, along with the hospital and SA Health Medical Research Institute, the Riverbank would become the state's biggest ever building site.

The new convention centre designs have been inspired by the SA landscape, according to Deputy Premier John Rau, who was also involved in the Capital City Committee talks yesterday.

He said work would begin on the first stage of the expansion, abutting the Morphett St bridge, in September and be completed by 2014.

Stage one will have 4300sq m of multi-purpose convention space, meeting spaces and a 1000-seat ballroom built over the railway tracks up to the bridge.

Vehicles will be able to drive straight off the bridge to drop passengers at a new main entry.

The second stage, which features a distinctive hi-tech glass arrow structure capable of seating 3500 people, will be completed in June 2017.

Mr Rau said the distinctive structure was meant to evoke a cut gemstone.

He said the project, aimed at boosting the convention centre's economic and tourism contribution to SA by more than $1.9 billion over the next 25 years, would provide Adelaide with "two of its most remarkable buildings". The new buildings are a collaboration between Adelaide-based international architectural firm Woods Bagot and London-based architect Larry Oltmans from the company Vx3.

He said people would be able to walk from the Festival Centre to the Morphett St bridge on two levels - along the riverbank and a bridge-level walkway featuring cafes and restaurants.

"They (the new buildings) will re-establish Adelaide as a key national and international conference destination," Mr Rau said.

He said the buildings would allow the centre to host more and larger conferences, and "establish a stunning visual identity for Adelaide".

Mr Rau said the expansion would also act as a catalyst to attract further private investment along North Tce, including premium clothing stores, and more restaurants and accommodation.

The first stage of the redevelopment will be undertaken by a consortium including Woods Bagot, Vx3, Baulderstone, Aurecon, Bestec, Rider Levett Bucknall and Thinc Projects.

Convention centre chairwoman Jane Jeffreys said the centre had been an economic success story for SA since its establishment as Australia's first purpose-built venue in 1987.

"It will create one of the largest, most flexible and up-to-date meeting places in the world," she said.

"The development will also remove the capacity restraints, which meant we have in recent years lost hosting opportunities interstate and overseas."

Development is expected to be a key element of a headland speech Opposition Leader Isobel Redmond will make today to the Urban Development Institute.

kichigai
June 29th, 2011, 05:38 AM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/adelaideconventioncentre/sets/72157626948818295/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/adelaideconventioncentre/5883104408/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/adelaideconventioncentre/5883104408/in/set-72157626948818295

http://www.flickr.com/photos/adelaideconventioncentre/5882619259/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/adelaideconventioncentre/5882619259/in/set-72157626948818295

I'm not quite sure how to post from flickr but there are some other renders at the site above.

kichigai
July 5th, 2011, 11:14 AM
http://www.fiveaa.com.au/lib/images/hero/normal/artist-impression-of-the-riverbank-precinct-713920.jpg

http://www.fiveaa.com.au/lib/images/gallery/normal/a40-prow-view-jpg-2872911309332351.jpg

http://www.fiveaa.com.au/lib/images/gallery/normal/a20-west-bridge-view-2-jpg-2872911309332350.jpg

http://www.fiveaa.com.au/lib/images/gallery/normal/a49-portal-close-jpg-2872911309332349.jpg

http://www.fiveaa.com.au/lib/images/gallery/normal/a28-north-terrace-1-jpg-2872911309332350.jpg

http://www.fiveaa.com.au/lib/images/gallery/normal/apromenade-view-jpg-2872911309332349.jpg

http://www.fiveaa.com.au/lib/images/gallery/normal/scene-42-filters-jpg-2872911309332349.jpg

crawf
September 25th, 2011, 04:14 PM
Premier Mike Rann announces Festival Centre facelift
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/premier-mike-rann-announces-festival-centre-facelift/story-e6frea6u-1226145356760

WITH site works for the new Royal Adelaide Hospital starting this coming week, Premier Mike Rann has revealed plans for a major upgrade of the Adelaide Festival Centre.

Joining Health Minister John Hill yesterday to officially turn the first sod for the new RAH, Mr Rann told the Sunday Mail a Festival Centre upgrade would be part of a transformation of the entire Torrens riverbank precinct.

"We are essentially masterplanning the whole riverbank and North Tce precinct, from the $1 billion development at Bowden-Brompton, right through to Hackney," Mr Rann said.

"There will be 1800 workers at the new RAH site at its peak, the new SA Health and Medical Research Institute which will house almost 700 researchers next door is well under way, the Adelaide Convention Centre expansion starts this month and the new Adelaide Oval work starts in March.

"We are also going to start work on a major upgrade of the Adelaide Festival Centre - it really does need a big overhaul.

"Money is being put aside for a masterplan to redevelop the Festival Centre as part of the riverbank rejuvenation."

The 38-year-old Festival Centre was singled out in a 2010 Arts SA report criticising the State Government for a lack of investment in Adelaide's outdated arts venues, many of which were considered unsafe and in poor condition.

Arts figures such as Adelaide Symphony Orchestra chief executive Barbara George have previously called for a major upgrade, while centre chief executive Douglas Gautier said an upgrade was needed so Adelaide could continue to draw big-name productions.

Other precinct areas mentioned by Mr Rann as ripe for development or increased use included the old Adelaide Gaol, Thebarton police barracks and the existing RAH site.

"There are heritage issues but also the opportunity to create one of the world's great cultural boulevards that blends heritage buildings with new heritage through design excellence," he said.

"The old RAH site is in a magnificent position - you get rid of the ugly buildings, keep the heritage buildings and there is all sorts of potential, such as extending the Botanic Gardens and using buildings for universities or galleries.

"You could have a new Aboriginal museum on the site with the fantastic collection of artefacts and artwork now housed in the SA Museum and Art Gallery - that is just an idea of the sort of thing that could be done."

Mr Rann said the new RAH would be one of the biggest hospitals in the world "and the best in Australia".

"There is no stopping the new RAH now," he quipped as he turned the first sod, resisting the temptation to throw the dirt at assembled media as former Victorian premier Jeff Kennett famously did at a sod-turning ceremony.

Asked if the hospital would be big enough to cope with demand, given recent cases of hospitals being full beyond capacity, Mr Hill said it would have 30 per cent more capacity than the existing RAH, with room to expand by another 30 per cent on the site.

"When this opens in 2016, we will have the capacity to meet the needs of the public into the future, and there is still plenty of space to expand in the future," Mr Hill said.

"The new hospital is an important part of our statewide health reforms and has been designed to adapt to the changing needs of the population."

Work to prepare the site for construction will begin this coming week, including bulk excavations and underground services such as sewerage pipes.

Soil testing is complete and officials say the results have not shown anything present that would not be expected on a former railyard of this size and age.
...

Mpol
September 26th, 2011, 01:40 PM
About fu**ing time!

kichigai
October 5th, 2011, 06:36 AM
http://www.premier.sa.gov.au/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2979&Itemid=10

Draft master plan for revitalized riverbank made public

The State Government has today released details of the draft Master Plan for one of the most exciting urban development projects in the city in decades - the revitalisation of Adelaide’s Riverbank precinct.

Infrastructure Minister Patrick Conlon said the draft plan, developed by a consortium led by Ashton Raggat McDougall (ARM), included 11 key guiding principles that will provide direction and a reference point for future development of the Riverbank.

New Riverbank Looking West

“ARM has identified considerable opportunities for the private sector to play a vital role in redeveloping this underutilised Riverbank precinct,” Minister Conlon said.

“These opportunities include new multi-storey commercial buildings, potential for expansion for existing operators such as the Casino and the Intercontinental and new food and beverage outlets.

“We also believe there is room for associated and appropriate retail activity to make the area more attractive for visitors, tourists and residents.”

The consortium has identified six “new” destinations in Riverbank which should be considered as part of the revitalization:

Riverbank Key Destinations

Festival Square: Would involve replacing the existing Hajek Plaza with a new gathering place consisting cafes, restaurants, commercial buildings and a new foyer for the Festival Centre.

New Elder Park: Aims to create a new park for the 21st century by reshaping the grassed area to cater for larger gatherings and performances.

River West: Creating a new vibrant area between the Convention Centre and Festival Centre. Would enhance the riverbank experience by integrating food and beverage outlets into the grassed riverside with a new boardwalk and gently sloping terraces to the river edge.

River Crossing: The consortium has provided a comprehensive list of factors to guide the location of the new pedestrian bridge across the Torrens and suggests the bridge landing on the southern side of the river helps to create an active hub with easy access to public transport via Adelaide Railway Station.

Natural Riverbank: Suggested reshaping of the area known as Pinky Flat, by creating a series of wetlands that would reflect the landscape before European settlement, incorporating a network of boardwalks and a striking new fountain.

Riverbank Gateway: Creating a new urban tree-lined street which would help bring to life the edges of Station Rd.

ARM has developed the draft Master Plan in collaboration with the Riverbank Stakeholder Reference Group, including representatives from Adelaide Festival Centre, Adelaide Convention Centre, Adelaide City Council, Skycity, Tourism SA, Intercontinental and the Integrated Design Commission.

Minister Conlon said the Department of Transport, Energy and Infrastructure had received more than 1,000 responses on how to best plan Riverbank during recent community engagement.

“Once the final master plan has been completed it will be presented to Cabinet by the year’s end for its consideration and endorsement of the vision, ideas, concepts and proposed governance arrangements of the precinct,” Minister Conlon said.

The details in the draft Master Plan are intended to present an overall vision and series of concepts and investment opportunities that warrant further consideration and is not a final plan.

The next step is to seek community and stakeholder feedback on the concepts and ideas in the draft Master Plan.

Minister Conlon said members of the public would have a number of chances to have their say through website questionnaires and direct engagement with the Master Plan team.

More information on the State Government’s vision and plans for Adelaide’s signature precinct can be found at www.infrastructure.sa.gov.au/adelaide_riverbank_precinct or by contacting the Project Team on 1300 305 255 or emailing DTEI.RiverbankProjectTeam@sa.gov.au

http://www.infrastructure.sa.gov.au/major_projects/adelaide_riverbank_precinct

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crawf
January 29th, 2012, 05:32 PM
Work has started on the Stage 1 Convention Centre Expansion, restrictions along Morphett Street Bridge start today.

From Friday - part of the car park along the Riverbank Promenade is being converted to ... ?

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Lucky Seven playing at Regattas "Live at Five" attracted quite a crowd:

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Siteworks - northern track to station is closed off, crane base installed on south side near the bridge ...

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Call for Riverbank unique ideas

THE State Government has called for Expressions of Interest (EOI) to revitalise Adelaide’s Riverbank precinct along the River Torrens.

The deadline for submissions is exactly one month, closing at 2pm on February 23.

Infrastructure Minister Patrick Conlon said the government was seeking “unique and innovative ideas”

“Over the past two years, the Riverbank Precinct has been the focus of a number of major development proposals which are either in the delivery stage or proposed,” Conlon said in a media statement this morning.

“There is a lot happening in this vibrant precinct – we have the Adelaide Oval redevelopment, the Adelaide Convention Centre expansion and many other projects on the cards.

“Projects like these allow us to offer young South Australians career and lifestyle options that will keep them in our state and also attract other skilled people.”

Conlon said he looked forward to the State Government and stakeholders, such as the Adelaide City Council and the Adelaide Festival Centre, working together to “capture the vision and principles” in the draft Master Plan released late last year.

“There is a wealth of potential within the precinct, in particular, the idea of a Festival Square featuring cafes, restaurants and commercial buildings, which will prove to be a popular place for the community to come together.”

For further information: http://www.infrastructure.sa.gov.au

http://www.indaily.com.au

http://www.sensational-adelaide.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=2856&start=780

Mpol
January 30th, 2012, 01:06 PM
I did not think this project would happen but... it's started. What with the hospital and med centre, then the potencial Rundle Mall facelift and Vic Square re-design...

So are the Festival Theatre, Casino and surrounding banks getting a one over to as earlier incarnations of this project suggest? AHH EXCITED!

Danubis
February 2nd, 2012, 12:26 AM
Call for Riverbank unique ideas

THE State Government has called for Expressions of Interest (EOI) to revitalise Adelaide’s Riverbank precinct along the River Torrens.

The deadline for submissions is exactly one month, closing at 2pm on February 23.

Infrastructure Minister Patrick Conlon said the government was seeking “unique and innovative ideas”

“Over the past two years, the Riverbank Precinct has been the focus of a number of major development proposals which are either in the delivery stage or proposed,” Conlon said in a media statement this morning.

“There is a lot happening in this vibrant precinct – we have the Adelaide Oval redevelopment, the Adelaide Convention Centre expansion and many other projects on the cards.

“Projects like these allow us to offer young South Australians career and lifestyle options that will keep them in our state and also attract other skilled people.”

Conlon said he looked forward to the State Government and stakeholders, such as the Adelaide City Council and the Adelaide Festival Centre, working together to “capture the vision and principles” in the draft Master Plan released late last year.

“There is a wealth of potential within the precinct, in particular, the idea of a Festival Square featuring cafes, restaurants and commercial buildings, which will prove to be a popular place for the community to come together.”

For further information: http://www.infrastructure.sa.gov.au

http://www.indaily.com.au


oh for fuck sake, i hate shit like this, they already have a plan thats suitable, find the fucking funding and just fucking do it. stop asking the average citizen for their average ideas ffs. jesus. just do it. I hate democracy sometimes.

Danubis
February 2nd, 2012, 12:27 AM
oh, haha, EOI for tenders. gotcha. disregard my previous post hahaha.

crawf
April 15th, 2012, 07:23 PM
taken today in the car

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IMG_0131 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/77258177@N04/6934563494/) by sc2100 (http://www.flickr.com/people/77258177@N04/), on Flickr

VHSLE CRUISER
April 16th, 2012, 12:49 AM
I saw in the Sunday Mail that they have 2 potential designs for the footbridge over the Torrens but why are they ending it before Memorial Drive and not going over it? So what people get off the bridge then they need to cross the road...hmm seems stupid and tacky to me.

crawf
April 17th, 2012, 06:07 PM
I saw in the Sunday Mail that they have 2 potential designs for the footbridge over the Torrens but why are they ending it before Memorial Drive and not going over it? So what people get off the bridge then they need to cross the road...hmm seems stupid and tacky to me.

I was under the impression this was going to happen anyway. It's no big drama, War Memorial Drive is only 2 lanes and will be closed during football, cricket and major events.

spiller9
April 18th, 2012, 02:51 AM
I saw in the Sunday Mail that they have 2 potential designs for the footbridge over the Torrens but why are they ending it before Memorial Drive and not going over it? So what people get off the bridge then they need to cross the road...hmm seems stupid and tacky to me.

there isnt enough room for the bridge to go over memorial drive. If that were the case, the bridge would literally end up in the gates of the southern entrance to Adelaide Oval.

crawf
June 14th, 2012, 06:34 PM
Taken in late May



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VHSLE CRUISER
June 21st, 2012, 12:33 AM
Certainly getting there, cant wait.

The whole of North Terrace is a buzz with the new convention centre (expansion), riverbank precinct, RAH and SAHMRI.

mobus
July 3rd, 2012, 03:08 PM
What's the final design for the Convention Centre expansion look like?

vanbasten88
July 5th, 2012, 10:03 PM
A bit further East towards King William Street, the design for the pedestrian footbridge lining the North Tce precinct(inc train station) to the Adelaide Oval redevelopment has been released. should be completed by next years Ashes Test Match. :banana:
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http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/torrens-footbridge-design-unveiled/story-e6frea6u-1226417802439

crawf
July 5th, 2012, 10:08 PM
Should be noted that the design is not final

More photos..
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Torrens footbridge design unveiled
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/torrens-footbridge-design-unveiled/story-e6frea6u-1226417802439

THE proposed $40 million footbridge across the Torrens to the redeveloped Adelaide Oval is likely to be ready for The Ashes Test late next year.

The Government hopes construction of the bridge, which would be used by up to 25,000 spectators for matches at the Oval, will take about 12 months from the end of this year.

The final design for the 150m long bridge was unveiled yesterday and the curved structure will stretch from War Memorial Drive across the river to near the Festival Centre's Dunstan Playhouse.

It will land at the level of the Adelaide Railway Station concourse to ensure ease of access to public transport.

However, the final design of the bridge - which will be 8m to 10m wide - means that on match days at Adelaide Oval, War Memorial Drive will have to be closed to traffic.

There will be a climb of about 4m from the Oval to the concourse level - however, it will not require stairs at either end of the bridge, something it is understood had been resisted by the Stadium Management Authority.

Infrastructure Department chief executive Rod Hook described the final design for the foot- bridge as "elegant, simple and efficient".

He said the bridge could eventually be handed to the Adelaide City Council to manage or the Government could retain control.

Acting Premier John Rau said the bridge would provide the crucial pedestrian link between the Riverbank and Adelaide Oval - two spaces that had been under-utilised for too long.

Infrastructure Minister Patrick Conlon said there was no doubt there would be a major debate about the design of the bridge.

"But we believe we have achieved the best possible design," he said. Opposition planning spokesman David Ridgway, meanwhile, described the design for the bridge as "another Labor folly" and said it should be rejected.

"We'll end up paying $40 million for a footbridge that could be the wrong height and in the wrong place," he said.

"Decisions like Adelaide Casino's $300 million expansion, the proposed redevelopment of Festival Square and Riverbank commercial and entertainment areas all depend on getting this bridge right."

Mpol
July 6th, 2012, 01:57 AM
Awesome. Now all we need is an upgrade of the Festival Theatre. It looks so tacky. White tin shed. UP-DATE.

Melbourneguy
July 6th, 2012, 05:02 AM
I don't mean to be disrespectful guys, but it's only a bridge. Why so much discussion about a footbridge across the Torrens?

crawf
July 6th, 2012, 07:45 AM
I don't mean to be disrespectful guys, but it's only a bridge. Why so much discussion about a footbridge across the Torrens?

It will form a very important link between a redeveloped Adelaide Oval precinct and the city / upgraded riverbank so we need to get it right. It also needs to be visually appealing so it doesn't destroy that postcode look from the King William St bridge.

If this was built outer of the main riverbank precinct then 99% of the population wouldn't give two hoots. Though I wouldn't say there has been lots of discussion on it, but it has been on the drawing board for quite a while.

I remember years ago over living in Victoria there was quite a fair bit of discussion of what to do with the old Sandringham Bridge, including building a Ferris wheel. So Adelaide's not alone.

vanbasten88
July 7th, 2012, 01:18 AM
It will form a very important link between a redeveloped Adelaide Oval precinct and the city / upgraded riverbank so we need to get it right. It also needs to be visually appealing so it doesn't destroy that postcode look from the King William St bridge.

If this was built outer of the main riverbank precinct then 99% of the population wouldn't give two hoots. Though I wouldn't say there has been lots of discussion on it, but it has been on the drawing board for quite a while.

I remember years ago over living in Victoria there was quite a fair bit of discussion of what to do with the old Sandringham Bridge, including building a Ferris wheel. So Adelaide's not alone.

I was studying at RMIT at the time...what happened with that bridge, we know where the wheel ended up and that its broken and dangerous:( but what about the bridge?

kichigai
September 25th, 2012, 08:32 AM
Fly through

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Mpol
September 25th, 2012, 01:58 PM
MMM what are the parks covering the rail lines?!?!

mobus
January 9th, 2013, 05:22 AM
What happened to this?

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VHSLE CRUISER
January 9th, 2013, 10:23 AM
What happened to this?

http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2011/03/25/1226028/212567-proposed-adelaide-casino.jpg

I was thinking this as well.

VHSLE CRUISER
January 9th, 2013, 10:26 AM
I read somewhere that they were looking at doing an underground walk way from the city train station, under the convention centre, exiting at the river torrens bankside. This being that a 2 part that it give commuters access our that was along with if they eventually do underground rail in Adelaide CBD and to any outer suburbs they can incorporate this into the design.

kichigai
January 12th, 2013, 08:33 AM
What happened to this?

http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2011/03/25/1226028/212567-proposed-adelaide-casino.jpg

It's out. New plans.
http://www.news.com.au/national/skycity-boss-nigel-morrison-and-senator-nick-xenophon-argue-for-and-against-a-bigger-skycity-casino-for-adelaide/story-fndo4dzn-1226540653179

mobus
January 12th, 2013, 02:05 PM
That article says it's delayed. Not scrapped. Anyone know the name of the artists or developers behind that proposal?

Danubis
April 23rd, 2013, 11:40 AM
It looks quite busy when you drive past... Cranes, cement trucks, steal beams etc.

But no one seems to care, last post here was 9th jan by someone interstate... This is why I just stay in skybar. :S