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BigDreamer
March 17th, 2010, 04:21 AM
BAGHDAD METRO

http://www.ajg41.plus.com/images/iraq/map-baghdad-metro.jpg

http://www.streetsblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/11_24/baghdad_subway.jpg

The Baghdad Metro is expected to have two lines; a 20-station, 18km line, plus 21-station, 21km line with an estimated cost of US $3-4 billion.

BigDreamer
March 17th, 2010, 04:23 AM
Oct 2009 update


BAGHDAD, Oct 14 (Reuters) - The Baghdad mayor's office said on Wednesday that it had whittled down the list of companies competing to build Iraq's first metro to eight foreign firms and expected the project to cost $3-$4 billion.

Iraq's government wants to build up the private sector and develop infrastructure decimated by years of war, sanctions and economic ruin. The former regime had wanted to build an underground train linking Baghdad's numerous districts since the 1980s.

Mayor Saber al-Issawi told Reuters that his office had narrowed down the list of companies after receiving interest from more than 20 firms. The project was expected to cost between $3-$4 billion, he said.

The companies included France's Systra, Britain's Pell Frischmann and Cyril Sweett Group Plc (CSWG.L), U.S. firms Parsons Brinckerhoff and Aecom, Germany's RMS, Turkey's Makyol and Mebex, a Lebanese firm.

The mayor expected to have bids within three months.

In June, the mayor invited international companies to bid to construct two metro lines. The first line would have 20 stations and run 18 km (11 miles), and the second line would run 21 km (13 miles) with 21 stations. [ID:nL8435047] (Reporting by Aseel Kami; Writing by Jack Kimball, editing by Will Waterman)

source : http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKKAM44024520091014

BigDreamer
March 17th, 2010, 04:25 AM
Feb 2010 Update

BAGHDAD / Aswat al-Iraq: A deal with a French company will soon be concluded to supervise a project to build an underground railway in the capital Baghdad, the local mayor said.

“Companies from the United States, Russia, Germany, France and South Korea will be invited to submit their final bids for the project after a contract is signed with Systra,” Mayor Sabir al-Issawi told Aswat al-Iraq news agency.

France’s Systra, an international engineering and consulting group specializing in rail, will supervise the project, the mayor pointed out.

source : http://en.aswataliraq.info/?p=126987 (http://en.aswataliraq.info/?p=126987)

BigDreamer
March 17th, 2010, 04:29 AM
March 2010 Update

BAGHDAD -- Iraqi officials say foreign firms will be invited to take part in a tender to build an elevated monorail and subway lines in Baghdad to help reduce traffic in the congested capital, RFE/RL's Radio Free Iraq reports.

Baghdad Mayor Salih Abdel Razzak said the monorail in particular will help unsnarl a city notorious for its traffic jams.

Iraqi railways Director Rafil Yussef Abbas told RFI that the planned monorail line, whose cost is estimated at $3 billion, should be 36 kilometers long and have 13 stations in Baghdad. He said it should be able to carry 23 million passengers per year.

Issmat Amir Jabbar, an adviser to the transport minister, told RFI that the monorail train will be 8-10 meters above ground.

Abbas said the tender for the monorail will be held "soon" but did not specify a date. Construction is expected to take several years.

He said the monorail project is technically easier and cheaper to build than the subway.

Hakim Abd al-Zahra, a spokesman for the Baghdad mayor's office, said French Systra is advising on the plans.

Zahra added that bids for the subway project will be sought after Systra presents a final report. He said two underground lines are planned, the first about 18 kilometers long with 20 stations and the second 21 kilometers long with 21 stations.

Mayor Razzak said the monorail will connect major districts of the capital on both sides of the Tigris River, from the sprawling Sadr City in eastern Baghdad to the more affluent western area of Mansour.

A Baghdad resident, Salima Mohsen, told RFI that her children often miss the first hour of school due to the traffic and said she hoped that the officials' plans "translate into action on the ground."

Iraq planned to build a subway network in Baghdad in the 1980s but the project was aborted due to the Iran-Iraq war.

source: http://www.rferl.org/content/Baghdad_To_Build_Elevated_Monorail_Subway/1973290.html

Infestus
March 18th, 2010, 10:11 PM
i hope they will built it, baghdad could really use it

Soballe
March 18th, 2010, 10:40 PM
http://www.constructionweekonline.com/pictures/gallery/Stock/Metro_tracks_workers.jpg

Heres a pic of the supposed baghdad metro u/c

BigDreamer
March 18th, 2010, 10:50 PM
^^ How can you tell it's the Baghdad metro? They didn't award the contract as far as I know, this picture seems in an advanced construction stage. It would normally take months to test the ground and drill before they lay down any rebar etc.

Soballe
March 18th, 2010, 11:08 PM
Im just going from the construction week caption...

BigDreamer
March 19th, 2010, 12:02 AM
^^ Oh right I see. Do you have a link to the article by any chance?.

MKTJ
March 19th, 2010, 12:10 AM
http://www.constructionweekonline.com/pictures/gallery/Stock/Metro_tracks_workers.jpg

Heres a pic of the supposed baghdad metro u/c

This is an old pic for Dubai metro.

elusive
March 21st, 2010, 06:59 AM
http://www.scr.gov.iq/pic/newrail2.jpg

just something i found recently...don't know if its relevant

weld el dafna
March 21st, 2010, 07:07 AM
cool . . go baghdad!!

MKTJ
March 21st, 2010, 02:06 PM
Great pic elusive.
I doubt this pic for the metro, I guess it's for the new rail line they want to build around Baghdad ($ 3billion).

BigDreamer
March 22nd, 2010, 12:57 AM
^^ I agree with you MTKJ. This is probably not for the metro. but it will be a great extension to the international train station. I hope it will get built :banana:

dude01
March 22nd, 2010, 05:34 AM
i hope they build a TGV <3

aakj
May 26th, 2010, 05:02 PM
Iraq eyes 8 foreign firms for $3bln metro project

* Shortlists WS Atkins, Versar, 6 others for Baghdad deal

* Project expected to help ease taffic jams


By Aseel Kami

BAGHDAD, May 26 (Reuters) - Iraq has shortlisted eight foreign firms for the construction of a $3 billion metro rail through the capital Baghdad as it seeks to rebuild infrastructure damaged by decades of war and underinvestment.

Baghdad's municipality media office said on Wednesday the companies -- which include British engineering consultancy firm WS Atkins (ATKW.L) and U.S. project management company Versar (VSR.A) -- would have to present their bids to the project consultants, French engineering group Systra.

The other companies shortlisted for the contract are a consortium of British project managers Halcrow Group, German consulting firm Dorsch and Finnish engineering and consulting group Poyry (POY1V.HE); British firms Mott MacDonald and Arup; Italy's Torno and IECMB; and U.S. firm Parsons Brinckerhoff. "The metro rail will help to solve a big part of the problem in Baghdad's streets, which suffer from huge traffic jams due to the continuous rise in the number of cars that have entered Iraq (since the 2003 U.S.-led invasion)," the office said in a statement.

Most commuters in Baghdad are dependent on taxis and buses for transport, and it often takes hours to travel short distances due to traffic congestion and long queues at security checkpoints which are dotted all over the city.

The underground project, which was initially drafted in the 1980s but put on hold due to years of war and international sanctions, will be the first of its kind in the war-shattered country if it comes to fruition.

Violence in Iraq has dropped sharply in the last two years, giving government the chance to invite foreign firms to invest in the country to help rebuild its deteriorated infrastructure.

The first line of the metro, which will be 21 km (13 miles) long and have 21 stations, will start in al-Mesbah in central Baghdad and then split into two minor lines. One of the lines will end in Weshash in western Baghdad and the second in the southwestern Bayaa area.

The metro's second major line, expected to be around 18 km (11.2 miles) long and have 20 stations, will start in the Sadr City district in northeastern Baghdad, pass through central Baghdad, and end in the northern Adhamiya area. (Editing by Serena Chaudhry and Hans Peters)


http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSLDE64P1HO20100526?type=marketsNews

Infestus
May 26th, 2010, 06:48 PM
At least another 6 month of bidding. Why does it always take so long? Is it because of the gouvernment or the companies? By the way, they should build a extreme secure tunnel system to make it as much as impossible for terrorists to target it.

BigDreamer
October 8th, 2010, 01:29 AM
anyone heard anything about the metro?!

I'm starting to think this is a scam ! googling it gets you no new hits at all !

elusive
October 8th, 2010, 06:06 AM
it probably is...sheytan would know lol

elusive
October 8th, 2010, 06:15 AM
it probably is...sheytan would know lol

BigDreamer
October 8th, 2010, 06:35 AM
:lol:

sheytanElKebir
October 8th, 2010, 12:23 PM
it probably is...sheytan would know lol

cant put it on a scam list yet, they haven't "officially" announced that its happening.

baghdad_sara
October 9th, 2010, 10:40 AM
cant put it on a scam list yet, they haven't "officially" announced that its happening.

Maybe because it wont happen lol

sheytanElKebir
October 9th, 2010, 01:01 PM
Maybe because it wont happen lol

such frivolities never stopped them before.

Anyone see the Erbil Tram or Najaf monorail lately?

BigDreamer
October 9th, 2010, 01:52 PM
i was hoping this project would be different from the rail-related joke projects like the Najaf mono etc.. (esp since plans for the baghdad metro date back to the 80s!)..

unfortunately.. there has been a real drought of reliable news on this project, it really does put a big question mark on its progress

sheytanElKebir
January 23rd, 2011, 03:20 PM
France's Alstom signs MOU for Baghdad metro

* 25 km line to cost about $600 mln

* To be financed by the French govt

* Iraq needs to rebuild its battered infrastructure

By Aseel Kami

BAGHDAD, Jan 21 (Reuters) - French engineering group Alstom (ALSO.PA) has signed an outline agreement with Iraq to build a metro line above Baghdad's streets, an official said.

Shaker al-Zamili, the head of Baghdad Investment Commission, said on Thursday Iraqi officials signed a memorandum of understanding with Alstom in France last week.

An Alstom spokeswoman in Paris confirmed the agreement was signed last Saturday, allowing exclusive talks for the building of 25 km (15 miles) of high-level track.

The metro would be partly funded by a French government loan covering 50 to 60 percent of the cost, Zamili said, with the remainder financed through a low-interest loan from a French government-run bank to be repaid over 20 years.

Zamili said the line, which would take up to two years to complete, would ease traffic congestion and would link the northern Baghdad districts of Shaab, Adhamiya, Kadhimiya and Hurriya with the central Alawi zone.

In June, Iraq's southern city of Najaf awarded TransGlobim International (Globim), a privately-owned Canadian consortium, a $600 million contract to build the country's first monorail. [ID:nANS649050]

Railways are among a number of large-scale infrastructure projects discussed by Iraqi officials since the fall of Saddam Hussein, including a plan for a multi-billion dollar Baghdad metro, none of which has been built yet.

Iraq's roads, railways, ports and power plants have been badly decayed by years of war, economic sanctions and underinvestment. (Additional by Matthias Blamont in Paris; Editing by Rania El Gamal and David Cowell)

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKAM03414320110121



now the confusing thing:
is this the "baghdad metro" or, as i can see,
the "baghdad monorail"?
Has the "old" baghdad metro plan from the 1980s been abandoned and now this is what constitutes the "baghdad metro"?

kurd123
January 23rd, 2011, 08:39 PM
such frivolities never stopped them before.

Anyone see the Erbil Tram or Najaf monorail lately?

This is all I got:- Project off course.

Transportation
Tram Way Erbil 80 km length
Tram Way Sulaimaniyah 70 km length
Tram Way Duhok 50 km length
Railway (Erbil – Zakho) Erbil – Duhok - Zakho 330 km length
Railway (Erbil – Penjwen) Erbil – Sulaimaniyah -Penjween 320 km length

http://kurdistaninvestment.org/files/sitecontents/260910060600.pdf

Gag Halfrunt
January 24th, 2011, 02:14 PM
now the confusing thing:
is this the "baghdad metro" or, as i can see,
the "baghdad monorail"?
Has the "old" baghdad metro plan from the 1980s been abandoned and now this is what constitutes the "baghdad metro"?
AFAIK, Alstom hasn't built any monorails, so this will probably be an elevated metro like the DLR in London (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Docklands_Light_Railway) or the SkyTrain in Bangkok (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangkok_Skytrain). We'll have to wait for details of the route to see if it's based on any previous plans.

sheytanElKebir
January 24th, 2011, 02:19 PM
Its not based on the old "baghdad metro" plan. Its along the same plan as the so called "baghdad tram / monorail" announced by the baghdad governorate in 2010.

BigDreamer
January 25th, 2011, 12:11 AM
how confusing !! we need an insider to clear things up..

BigDreamer
January 30th, 2011, 11:58 AM
Alstom signs agreement for Baghdad Elevated Train project

Meed reported that France’s Alstom has signed an agreement with Baghdad Municipality to discuss the possibility of signing a contract to build the estimated USD 600 million Baghdad Elevated Train project.

An Alstom spokesman said that “Alstom is willing to contribute to the reconstruction program in Iraq, in particular within the public transport area. Thus, Alstom has signed an agreement that opens a period of discussions with Baghdad local government, with the objective of signing a contract for the Baghdad Elevated Train.”

The project involves building a line that runs for 25 kilometers on a viaduct, which is aimed to reduce congestion in the city. It will link the areas of Al Mustansiriya and Alawi al Hilla in central Baghdad.

The French government will pay between 50% and 60% of the total project cost. The remainder will be financed through a low interest loan from a French government run bank that will be repaid over 20 years. The project was launched in July 2010.

The first line of the monorail will start from Mustansiriya and run to the Central Station in Alawi al Hilla in central Baghdad via Waziriya, Shaab, Sarafiya bridge, Buratha mosque, Abdulmohsin al Kazimi Square, Eden Square and Muthanna airport.

The second line will run from the Baya area to Doora highway, Oqba Square and will end at the Masbah metro station. The line will take about two years to build. This is a separate project to the USD 3 billion Baghdad metro.

A 37 kilometer long monorail project is already under way in the city of Najaf, which is located about 160 kilometers south of Baghdad.

Najaf and the nearby town of Karbala are both popular destinations for Shia pilgrims and they have shrines and monuments of religious significance. Currently, about 70 million pilgrims travel to Najaf each year. The monorail will help to reduce congestion in the city and transport the pilgrims around the city more easily.

BigDreamer
January 30th, 2011, 12:01 PM
^^ So we have some sort of answer, there are 2 projects (each consisting of one line apparently)

also, according to this article... the Najaf monorail is still alive.. fingers crossed

dwdwone
February 9th, 2011, 10:15 PM
This sounds more like an elevated urban railway than a monorail. The Makkah monorail in Saudia Arabia is actually an elevated urban railway. On the other hand, the Dubai monorail is a true monorail. Anyone living in Najaf have pictures of the construction?

sheytanElKebir
February 9th, 2011, 10:29 PM
hahahaa. there's no construction :D

BigDreamer
February 10th, 2011, 12:30 AM
I don't want a stupid monorail. i wanted an elevated light rail !!

monorails are absolutely useless.. !!!

MKTJ
February 10th, 2011, 03:39 AM
This sounds more like an elevated urban railway than a monorail. The Makkah monorail in Saudia Arabia is actually an elevated urban railway. On the other hand, the Dubai monorail is a true monorail. Anyone living in Najaf have pictures of the construction?

There is nothing called Dubai monorail! Dubai metro is an urban railway which is partly elevated. I think you are talking about palm Jumeirah monorail which is something different.

BigDreamer
February 10th, 2011, 03:56 AM
^^ yes, he's refering to the Palm Jumeirah monorail, which is a proper monorail.

sheytanElKebir
February 20th, 2011, 10:27 PM
some updates on the Baghdad mono-rail

they've come up with a second line.

baya3 - dora - dora bridge - za3farania - mesbah

At mesbah it is supposed to interconnect with the future Baghdad Metro.

sheytanElKebir
April 23rd, 2011, 09:22 PM
Systra discusses contract to build Bagdad metro

French engineering company Systra said a delegation from the Mayorality of Baghdad lead by the Vice-Mayor Mr. Ibrahim M. Hussain was received at Systra's head office by Philippe Citroën, Managing Director of Systra, on 22nd, 23rd and 24th of June 2010.

The purpose of the meeting was to discuss the contract for the study of the Bagdad metro. The design of the project consisting of two underground metro lines of 18 km and 22 km could start in September 2010.

Bremas
May 4th, 2011, 10:03 PM
could start in September 2010.

That soon? I wouldn't have expected it until 2009, or even 2008.

BigDreamer
May 5th, 2011, 08:40 AM
^^ yea I remember when that happened, it was only a FEED starting in 2010, not construction

BigDreamer
June 19th, 2011, 08:56 AM
Plans Advance for Baghdad Metro and Elevated Rail Lines

Through three wars, plans for an underground metro in Iraq’s capital city languished in a “pending” file. Now Baghdad municipally has signed a contract with a French firm and is dusting off decades-old designs for a 40-kilometer system.The government also aspires to develop a separate plan for a 25-km elevated transit project as well.

French design firm Systra S.A., Paris, now is mobilizing for 18 months’ work to develop the two-line metro project sufficiently for the city to solicit an engineer-procure-and-construct contract. Under Systra’s agreement, signed May 27, Systra also will advise on procurement.

Systra was among eight European, American and Middle Eastern firms shortlisted to bid in late 2009.

Also in the works, Paris-based Alstom Transport is negotiating a potential turnkey contract to develop an elevated rail system linking the northern district of Al-Mustansirya with Al-Alawi in central Baghdad. Baghdad officials signed a memorandum of understanding with the French firm for the 15-station project this January, confirms an Alstom spokeswoman.

So far, both projects appear to be evolving independently of one another. However, engineers at Systra expect to review how the two systems could interact during their study. The company bid for its metro contract without having seen designs prepared by a team of British consultants, led by Halcrow Group, London. That project was shelved during the 1980 to 1988 war with Iran.

The current iteration of the metro project includes two intersecting metro lines that will extend for 18-km and 22-km, respectively. Level and alignment of the underground system has been defined by the earlier study, says a Systra executive, asking not to be named. Earth-pressure-balance tunnel boring machines likely will be needed to cope with the wet alluvium covering much of the route, he adds.

Other construction challenges include a crossing of the River Tigris, largely uncharted utilities, a preponderance of archaeological remains and the still-uncertain security. To reduce risks to some 20 staff assigned to the project, much of the work will be done in Paris, says the executive.

dude01
July 6th, 2011, 09:06 AM
Baghdad Metro Project Suspended

Posted on 05 July 2011. Tags: Alstom, Baghdad, France, Metro
Baghdad Metro Project Suspended

A project to build a 22km urban rail network in the Iraqi capital has been put on hold due to a lack of funds, an advisor to the Transport Ministry said on Tuesday.

Karim Nouri told AKnews that the cost of the project exceeds this year’s federal budget allocation.

The 14-station metro line was intended to link the northern districts of Baghdad to the center and transport up to 30,000 passengers per hour.

At the end of May, Baghdad provincial council announced that the $1.5 billion project, to be carried out by the French firm Alstom, would take five years to complete and be partly-funded by the French government.

Mr. Nouri did not say when or if work on the planned urban rail link might begin.

http://www.iraq-businessnews.com/2011/07/05/baghdad-metro-project-suspended/

Basrawii
July 6th, 2011, 11:01 AM
Some renders and designs plz

Yousifovic
July 6th, 2011, 11:28 AM
Loool since the 1980 the project is on hold !
Y don't they just cancel it and stop giving us hopes !

sheytanElKebir
July 6th, 2011, 04:05 PM
can we finally move this thread to the "scam projects" list :D

BigDreamer
July 7th, 2011, 11:20 AM
status changed to on-hold, until we find out more about this

:ohno:

Persi
July 7th, 2011, 12:14 PM
On hold is better than cancelled :)

Spin Cycle
July 8th, 2011, 02:17 AM
To be fair, massive projects getting delayed by years or overrunning budget by 50%+ is not uncommon even in countries like the UK.

Our rail system is pretty poor, we've had NHS IT projects that have overrun time and budget hugely and still ended up being a failure.

Don't expect the donkeys running Iraq to succeed where the far more competent Westerners have failed time and time again.

SO, don't always assume it's a scam, incompetence is never in short supply with Iraqis.

sheytanElKebir
July 8th, 2011, 08:56 AM
To be fair, massive projects getting delayed by years or overrunning budget by 50%+ is not uncommon even in countries like the UK.

Our rail system is pretty poor, we've had NHS IT projects that have overrun time and budget hugely and still ended up being a failure.

Don't expect the donkeys running Iraq to succeed where the far more competent Westerners have failed time and time again.

SO, don't always assume it's a scam, incompetence is never in short supply with Iraqis.
UK is not a positive model for development! its pretty horrendous actually and to say the UK politicos and "middle manager" types are competent is stretching the limits of credulity.

Anyway, the issue with Iraq is not competence but the lack of cash due to having most of the state budget spent on state employees salaries/benefits as well as social security for the masses rather than the oil money spent on kickstarting the Iraqi economy and creating a private sector that employs the populace and pays the taxes that pay for necessary government expenditure.

who's going to fire 3,000,000 state employees and cut down the army and police by 50%? Not abu sibah! anyway I am exaggarating here. unfortunately in Iraq EVERYONE wants to be a state employee, exactly because its simply a licence to make a monthly salary for life, followed by a MULTI-GENERATIONAL PENSION for the family!

UTTER INSANITY! meaning that all the oil money ends up as cash in the pockets of the populace who go out and buy imported products with it.

/end description of Iraqi economy.

Spin Cycle
July 8th, 2011, 11:43 AM
UK is not a positive model for development! its pretty horrendous actually and to say the UK politicos and "middle manager" types are competent is stretching the limits of credulity.


I think you're underrating the UK. It may have its flaws, but it's still one of the five biggest economies in the world, has the second highest science research output, produces and exports world-class technology and is secure and stable enough that non-issues like a cat being put into a bin make national news. It's got flaws, no doubt - the over-reliance on the finance sector being a major economic one.

No, public sector workers are derided here, both for their work ethic and competence, any UK resident knows that. However, in put next to their Iraqi counterparts, they can almost be called respectable.

It's not a model of development for Iraq because it's a completely different type of country. It's wealth is a continuation of the intellectual assets and global positioning it has brought itself from the industrial revolution.

Iraq, is, to put it kindly, a rentier state.



Anyway, the issue with Iraq is not competence but the lack of cash due to having most of the state budget spent on state employees salaries/benefits as well as social security for the masses rather than the oil money spent on kickstarting the Iraqi economy and creating a private sector that employs the populace and pays the taxes that pay for necessary government expenditure.

who's going to fire 3,000,000 state employees and cut down the army and police by 50%? Not abu sibah! anyway I am exaggarating here. unfortunately in Iraq EVERYONE wants to be a state employee, exactly because its simply a licence to make a monthly salary for life, followed by a MULTI-GENERATIONAL PENSION for the family!

UTTER INSANITY! meaning that all the oil money ends up as cash in the pockets of the populace who go out and buy imported products with it.

/end description of Iraqi economy.

Sheytan, abu sibah can't change Iraqis. People want government jobs because they have no sense of entrepreneurship or making their own way. This is a decades old phenomenon. Neither does the immense corruption facilitate it.

Abu Sibah is essentially buying peace. If he could cut a substantial proportion of the government workforce, I guarantee you within a day you'd have bombs going off all over the place. For these people, it's a case of "give me money or I take it from al Qaeda, kidnappings and armed robbery".


Iraq is a very difficult problem to solve because you need to solve lots of problems at the same time to solve any one of them.

But otherwise I fully agree with you, the reliance on public sector jobs is absurd.

sheytanElKebir
July 8th, 2011, 12:22 PM
spincycle, I lived in the UK for more than 15 years and was a "state employee" (in the ministry of defence no less!) for part of that stay! Trust me on this (nowadays the biggest segments of the british economy are "real estate" and VAT fraud based "ghost" exports!). The UK destroyed itself, starting with the iron lady who did more damage to British industry than the Luftwaffe. but this is a topic for another thread altogether.

with regards to Iraq. I know that abu sibah is in a difficult situation... but instead of even trying to dig out of the hole, he's digging Iraq deeper into the malaise!

dwdwone
September 20th, 2011, 05:59 AM
The article doesn't make sense, unless it is only referring to one of two projects, as alluded in the earlier article. Also, the article talks about Alstom, but the previous article says that Systra was the contractor.

Can anyone clear this up?

sheytanElKebir
September 20th, 2011, 12:26 PM
There are three separate projects. A tram a monorail and a metro. All the posts got jumbled up here from all three separate projects.

Anyway, afaik, none of the three are serious projects at the moment.

BigDreamer
September 21st, 2011, 12:16 AM
yes, unfortunately, due to the serious lack of reliable info. We ended up with this ambiguous and somewhat confusing thread titled (Baghdad Metro Project), where in reality, we have at least three distinctly separate project announcements (all of them being refereed to as the "Baghdad Metro", none of which have solid credibility at this point.

we we hope that once we have solid project info (and on site construction evidence), we would start a new thread for each of these projects (if they ever materialize), and this thread would be closed.

dwdwone
September 21st, 2011, 03:57 AM
Speaking of metros. there were many rumours that an Sadaam had a metro built but used it for personal purposes. Is any of this true?

Forgive me if I seem a bit naive, but there are rumours worldwiide of "secret" metros, including Moscow and Washington.

BigDreamer
September 21st, 2011, 04:35 AM
^^ not as far as I know :D

they did build (or started) building tunnels for the Baghdad metro during the 80s, but the project was ditched and funds were redirected towards the military because of the Iraq-Iran war.

there is no underground metro in Baghdad. there is currently only one operating rail line from south of Baghdad to central (the line would later go all the way to Syria and turkey, passing few iraqi cities on the way).

but this isn't really a metro train..

makaay31
September 29th, 2011, 09:43 PM
Baghdad Mayor Discusses Baghdad Metro with French Company
Posted on 29 September 2011.

The Mayor of Baghdad, Sabir al-Issawi, met representatives of the French company Sistra [Systra] to discuss the studies and designs for the Baghdad Metro Project, a Mayoralty statement reported on Wednesday, according to Aswat al-Iraq.

“The Mayoralty’s Designs Department had prepared over the past few months the detailed dossiers about the transportation problems in Baghdad, for which the Company was supplied necessary documents from Baghdad Mayoralty, the Ministries of Transport and Planning, as well as other ministries,” the statement added.

Reuters reported in January that France’s Alstom would lead the Baghdad Metro Project, while AKnews reported in July that the project had been suspended.

Persi
September 30th, 2011, 03:14 PM
^^ :blahblah::blahblah::blahblah:

iraqishi3i
October 2nd, 2011, 12:54 AM
Just found a few things but i think youve all probably seen it

I found this picture :

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/29637_395524368950_167755553950_4499020_5188598_n.jpg

They have a website aswell http://www.baghdadmetro.com/

this is what it says on the site:

Iraq narrows metro project bid list
Iraq has said has narrowed down the number of companies competing to build country's first metro to eight foreign firms and expected the project to cost $3bn-$4bn, Reuters has reported. The companies include France's Systra, Britain's Pell Frischmann and Cyril Sweett Group Plc, US firms Parsons Brinckerhoff and Aecom, Germany's RMS, Turkey's Makyol and Mebex, a Lebanese firm.

Spin Cycle
October 2nd, 2011, 02:41 AM
^^ :blahblah::blahblah::blahblah:

This is precisely my thought whenever Sabir Issawi opens his mouth.

FromBaghdadWithLove
October 2nd, 2011, 09:10 AM
Just found a few things but i think youve all probably seen it

I found this picture :

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/29637_395524368950_167755553950_4499020_5188598_n.jpg

They have a website aswell http://www.baghdadmetro.com/

this is what it says on the site:

I'll promise I'll die and never see that on a metro train in my life.
They've been talking about baghdad metro since the 80's..

They'll discover corruption somewhere, or fake companies... Real Real soon...

BigDreamer
October 2nd, 2011, 10:34 AM
why does it say "saddam city" in arabic (madinat saddam), instead of Sader City. Is this a pre-2003 metro map ??

anyway. there isn't a single reliable source on the internet regarding this, I accpect we wouldn't have anything concrete for a long while to come

FromBaghdadWithLove
October 2nd, 2011, 02:26 PM
why does it say "saddam city" in arabic (madinat saddam), instead of Sader City. Is this a pre-2003 metro map ??

anyway. there isn't a single reliable source on the internet regarding this, I accpect we wouldn't have anything concrete for a long while to come

Lol, its a ba3thi company...lol


nah i think its one of the 1980s proposals, when they discovered that you dig a meter and you find water in baghdad, and cancelled the project.

Spin Cycle
October 2nd, 2011, 03:31 PM
I'd be somewhat concerned about the security aspects of this. Explosions in an enclosed space are far more destructive than in the open air (where they tend to dissipate within a shorter distance of the source). Then, when I think about how crowded the London underground gets during the day...it's a terrorist's paradise.

I don't think Iraq will be ready for this for quite some time.

sheytanElKebir
October 2nd, 2011, 05:45 PM
which is why trams are far safer, easier to build, cheaper and more accessible to everyone.

hell. they can even create a network of low floor trolley busses if they don't want to spend too much on CAPEX and create a pedestrianised zone in all of central baghdad. It will do the same job.

http://bc.transport2000.ca/images/TL_2007_NFI_E60LF_2533.jpg

Spin Cycle
October 2nd, 2011, 05:58 PM
That thing is electrically powered? Never seen one of those before.

sheytanElKebir
October 2nd, 2011, 09:27 PM
you've never been to Europe? trolley busses have been around for AGES!

Spin Cycle
October 2nd, 2011, 10:40 PM
you've never been to Europe? trolley busses have been around for AGES!

No, I've been to Europe, in fact, almost got run over by a tram right outside TU Vienna. Don't recall seeing one of these electric buses.

BigDreamer
October 3rd, 2011, 01:55 AM
lol I haven't heard of trolley buses until now :lol: (and i've been to europe several times :cripes:, I should stop taking pre-arranged tours !).

what a great concept, I love the idea very much, I wonder why my city (Auckland) is spending so much to recreate the old tram system when they can simply go with something like this.. :bash: I bet maintenance is way cheaper than vintage 1900s trams (that they are building now!!)

Anyways I love this, I wonder if anyone in the ministry of transport has thought of this?!


The only bad thing that I can think of trams (or trolley buses), is that they add congestion the already over crowded roads in Baghdad, where as a subway does not interefere with the roads. which is why i still support a subway system. but those trams can be so great if they go along the river bank and the main centers of baghdad (eg, al rasheed street, abu-nuas street, even haifa street !). would also be very good in cities like erbil, najaf, karbala, even basara. these cities are not big enough to prompt bulding a subway, so trams would be perfect..

FromBaghdadWithLove
October 3rd, 2011, 02:14 AM
Why trolly buses? Electrically powered, we dont have electricity, but I think we can do with petrol.

BigDreamer
October 3rd, 2011, 02:15 AM
^^ might as well use normal buses then !! :lol:

i think the entire idea for metro/trams assumes that we would've solved the electricity problem by the time these projects go online, but that seems so far away already !

FromBaghdadWithLove
October 3rd, 2011, 11:39 AM
^^ might as well use normal buses then !! :lol:

i think the entire idea for metro/trams assumes that we would've solved the electricity problem by the time these projects go online, but that seems so far away already !

Also I forgot to mention that following 2003 their has been a massive rise in the number of cars on the roads, over crowding etc...

Iraq doesn't require these buses, it requires a Metro system (In important Provinces), Tram system (in important Provinces) and more public buses (in all Provinces)

If any of those happen, its a step forward, and about electricity I think the next elections that government will bring us electricity at the time...

hope!

sheytanElKebir
October 3rd, 2011, 08:48 PM
here's a list of countries with trolleybuses.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_trolleybus_systems

also metros are not really practical to construct in Iraq due to the issue of groundwater in all our cities.

it can be done... but at a MASSIVE cost. Trolleybuses using existing roads and creating the centres of towns to be no-go areas for cars would solve the problems overnight relatively cheaply.

here's an example of a Swiss double articulated system. that's certainly a cheap alternative to a tram.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3d/LighTram3-Linie-31-Z%C3%BCrich-Bild-1.jpg/800px-LighTram3-Linie-31-Z%C3%BCrich-Bild-1.jpg

Basrawii
October 3rd, 2011, 09:46 PM
I like the TRAM solution in turkey, they isolate two sides of the road for tram which goes without being oart of traffic. In Istanbul, a ride by car might take hours but trams go fourth and back and finish the same destinations in minutes. They are cheap, fast, and easy solutions to implement.

Totally agree with shaytan

BigDreamer
October 3rd, 2011, 11:17 PM
my two cents:

trams: great for all cities except for highly congested areas of Baghdad (the roads are simply not wide enough for trams and cars), if they want to implement trams, then convert the entire area into pedestrian only (sorta like what they want to do to Al-Rasheed Street).

for Baghdad, a light transit rail would be great, if under ground is too expensive, then they should build it over a viaduct when necessary (elevated rail ).

BigDreamer
October 5th, 2011, 01:35 AM
UPDATE:

Baghdad Metro plans to get green-light says mayor
Construction Week Online. - [10/3/2011]
Plans for Baghdad’s 22km-long Metro are reaching an advanced stage, with representatives from French transport company Systra visiting Iraq to meet with senior officials last week.



In a statement issued by the city mayor, Saber Al Esawi, said, “The coming weeks shall witness the end of the admin and accounting procedures regarding the opening of the documentary credit and then the studies, sketches, and designs making will start by the company within stage one of the project, 8 months long.”

“Both sides discussed issues related to the project, especially the admin issues like bringing the letter of guarantee and opening a documentary credit.”
The news flies in the face of reports by the country’s Transport Ministry in July that the project had been suspended because funds for the $1.5bn had dried up. Ministry advisor, Karim Nouri told local media that the cost of the project exceeded the year’s federal budget allocation, and that he didn’t know when, or even if, the project would start up again.

However, the mayor’s statement, issued last Wednesday, pointed out that “the French side submitted a proposal to make the public transportation study in Baghdad, a joint committee comprising the Baghdad Mayoralty and Ministry of Transportation [is] to study the proposal technically and to inform the French side of the requirements and to finish all procedures regarding the French grant.”

Systra played a key role in establishing the Dubai Metro system. In 2003, the company awarded the contract to prepare preliminary studies, including the drawing up of tender documents for the design and construction of the LRT.

In July 2005, SYSTRA, in partnership with Parsons, won the contract to inspect the designs for Systems and Civil Engineering, to manage the project, supervise works, testing and commissioning, launch the service and oversee the guarantee, as well as to provide assistance to the Dubai authority in selecting the operator and preparing for operation.

The company has also been involved in the initial stages of planning for the Al Sufouh Tram Project in Dubai, the Casablanca Tramway (Morocco), the North-South Line in Saudi Arabia, Algiers Tramway (Algeria) – and the Algiers Metro.

Basrawii
October 7th, 2011, 11:47 AM
Please see this news about designing BAGHDAD METRO lines 1 and 2.

Link: http://www.systra.com/Design-and-Tender-Services-of-the?lang=fr

Please notice the following on SYSTRA's wikipedia page:

2007 - 2009: Technical assistance for the Jerusalem light rail system

All the mentioned tram projects above are using tams by ALSTOM, the company is facing severe negative impacts for building a tram project in Israel that uses some parts of the Arab occupied lands.

Hopefully, this will not affect the project. As Alstom already gave out 402 trams to Dubai RTA to build the 1st phase of the Dubai Tram (Imagine they have both Metro and tram in Dubai , with no users lol)

See these links:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alstom
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem_Light_Rail

Besides, can I exactly know whether it will be a metro or a tram because there is very big difference!

IraqiPlan_et
November 4th, 2011, 12:39 AM
Board of Baghdad: the train project is not included in the budget



Baghdad, November 3 (Rn) - The Committee for Planning and follow-up in the province of Baghdad on Thursday that the rail project commentator is not included in the budget next year, which meant that the French company to prepare preliminary designs.

Committee Chairman Mohammed al-Rubaie told the Kurdish news agency (Rn) that "the train project commentator can not be implemented within the budget in 2012 because there are administrative and bureaucratic obstacles in addition to the General Secretariat of the Council of Ministers has not been formally approved yet."

He added that "the company informed the French Alixtrom the Baghdad Provincial Council that it has allocated 500 thousand dollars for the initial design of the train hanging from a bank loan interest rate to 1% and take a paid 15-year period."

The Iraqi Government has allocated an amount of one trillion and 200 million dinars for Baghdad within the next year budget.

He pointed out that the spring "of strategic projects in the capital, Baghdad, and require a long time because there are complex administrative procedures to expedite the stands completed."

He explained that "the local government in Baghdad sent the project to the Federal Government since July last, but received no response so that the Iraqi government did not make clear the obstacles that prevent the signing of the contract with the French company."

Offered to the province of Baghdad's giant rail project in June of last year, which set a course before the first of which includes the province and the people and Mustansiriya Waziriya Bridge Sarafiya and Utaifiyya Kadhimiya and Muthanna airport and Allawi.

The train on the use of medians in the public streets and provide a solid pillars of engineering.

Baghdad suffers from a severe crisis due to the transfer of the large number of checkpoints and the increasing number of cars and spare many of the subsidiary and the main streets because of security conditions.

dude01
November 5th, 2011, 08:56 PM
8/26/2011

The Iraqi Government is planning to invest $10bn to build a high-speed railway line connecting Baghdad to the southern provinces of the country. Iraq has signed an initial agreement with Alstom in May, 2011 to build an over ground urban metro line linking Baghdad to Basra at a cost of $1.5bn. Iraq is also looking to construct an underground rail transport system.

The 280-mile track will allow trains to run at 155mph and is expected to be completed in 2014.

Ali - Iraq
November 5th, 2011, 09:31 PM
8/26/2011

The Iraqi Government is planning to invest $10bn to build a high-speed railway line connecting Baghdad to the southern provinces of the country. Iraq has signed an initial agreement with Alstom in May, 2011 to build an over ground urban metro line linking Baghdad to Basra at a cost of $1.5bn. Iraq is also looking to construct an underground rail transport system.

The 280-mile track will allow trains to run at 155mph and is expected to be completed in 2014.
link?

makaay31
December 24th, 2011, 02:14 PM
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iraqishi3i
December 24th, 2011, 06:05 PM
The french guy said it would take around 8 months to finalize everything and to agree on a price ... this video was posted in May so in January 2012 is construction meant to start ?

Euphrates
December 24th, 2011, 06:08 PM
The french guy said it would take around 8 months to finalize everything and to agree on a price ... this video was posted in May so in January 2012 is construction meant to start ?

It's only been 7 months :D...1 month to go..although I'm very skeptical about this project, just like najafs mono rail.

FromBaghdadWithLove
December 24th, 2011, 08:49 PM
Kharabee6... will never happen with a ishtrakiya gov... nothing will

Chounz
December 24th, 2011, 11:40 PM
This project has come too soon; I don't think we're ready for this..... I would prefer that they start construction in at least another 5 years.

First, it's stupid that we don't even have a proper bus service and we're planning to start a metro. Let them build new bus stations all around the city, get hundreds of proper nice new buses, double deckers would be a plus.. plan a whole new bus transport system. This all should happen before building a metro.

Second, we need to wait till the security situation improves before starting this. This is gonna take at least another year or two, I don't think they should start construction until the security situation is good.

It's a good and much-needed project, and it seems the french company is decent too.. but its too far-stretched right now, we need to wait a while.

Euphrates
January 21st, 2012, 10:27 PM
This would be the best metro:
(Baghdad Metro once complete)

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/405818_10150515710507962_361263837961_8836788_758666433_n.jpg

Cheap and fun :D

BigDreamer
January 22nd, 2012, 12:29 AM
^^ lol :D

Basrawii
January 24th, 2012, 04:30 PM
Nice .... but I love camels, please don't insult them. Thank you.

SumerianKing
February 15th, 2012, 09:28 PM
Meed reported that France’s Alstom has signed an agreement with Baghdad Municipality to discuss the possibility of signing a contract to build the estimated USD 600 million Baghdad Elevated Train project. http://dubaimetro.eu/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/25-e1296200338618-300x150.jpg (http://dubaimetro.eu/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/25.jpg)An Alstom spokesman said that “Alstom is willing to contribute to the reconstruction program in Iraq, in particular within the public transport area. Thus, Alstom has signed an agreement that opens a period of discussions with Baghdad local government, with the objective of signing a contract for the Baghdad Elevated Train.”
The project involves building a line that runs for 25 kilometers on a viaduct, which is aimed to reduce congestion in the city. It will link the areas of Al Mustansiriya and Alawi al Hilla in central Baghdad.
The French government will pay between 50% and 60% of the total project cost. The remainder will be financed through a low interest loan from a French government run bank that will be repaid over 20 years. The project was launched in July 2010.
The first line of the monorail will start from Mustansiriya and run to the Central Station in Alawi al Hilla in central Baghdad via Waziriya, Shaab, Sarafiya bridge, Buratha mosque, Abdulmohsin al Kazimi Square, Eden Square and Muthanna airport.
The second line will run from the Baya area to Doora highway, Oqba Square and will end at the Masbah metro station. The line will take about two years to build. This is a separate project to the USD 3 billion Baghdad metro. A 37 kilometer long monorail project is already under way in the city of Najaf, which is located about 160 kilometers south of Baghdad.
Najaf and the nearby town of Karbala are both popular destinations for Shia pilgrims and they have shrines and monuments of religious significance. Currently, about 70 million pilgrims travel to Najaf each year. The monorail will help to reduce congestion in the city and transport the pilgrims around the city more easily.




This agreement can be viewed from over 20 sources on google.

alshawi1234
February 16th, 2012, 07:10 AM
It seems jama3atna are only good at signing agreements, if you read about the project they make it seems like new York, but when you look at reality they're just good advertising for elections

SumerianKing
February 16th, 2012, 07:54 AM
Yeh your right, I havnt herd of any construction begining or and development at the moment. I mean 12 months to just talk about the project?? i promise you if they was seriouse about it they could cut that down to 5 months, but the people managing these kind of projects are lazy asses.

FromBaghdadWithLove
February 16th, 2012, 01:33 PM
Yeh your right, I havnt herd of any construction begining or and development at the moment. I mean 12 months to just talk about the project?? i promise you if they was seriouse about it they could cut that down to 5 months, but the people managing these kind of projects are lazy asses.

haha! bro that was great sarcasm, its been going on since saddam's time. Since the 80s.

Chounz
February 16th, 2012, 02:52 PM
LOL a Baghdad Elevated Train project AND a Baghdad Metro??? Perhaps one of the stations will be placed right outside one of the many displacement camps/garbage yards we have that hold hundreds of thousands of homeless people.

It really makes no sense.

Most of Baghdad's streets are dirty, filled with rubbish and with pavement cut off/holes in the ground or muddy/unpaved. Most of the buildings look like crap. No electricity no water no security. Basically the state of the city is terrible. Like I said before this should wait at least another 5 years. It's just too different in contrast with the rest of the city.

SumerianKing
February 16th, 2012, 03:08 PM
LOL a Baghdad Elevated Train project AND a Baghdad Metro??? Perhaps one of the stations will be placed right outside one of the many displacement camps/garbage yards we have that hold hundreds of thousands of homeless people.

It really makes no sense.

Most of Baghdad's streets are dirty, filled with rubbish and with pavement cut off/holes in the ground or muddy/unpaved. Most of the buildings look like crap. No electricity no water no security. Basically the state of the city is terrible. Like I said before this should wait at least another 5 years. It's just too different in contrast with the rest of the city.

Your right its still very early. Although I think its good to lay the foundations from now but should be up and running when they fix the problems you have mentioned.

BigDreamer
February 17th, 2012, 01:26 AM
:lol: relax chounz, you make it sound like they're going to build this tomorrow

I bet this wont see the light of day till 2020+ (if ever)

Persi
March 3rd, 2012, 09:04 PM
Hey guys akteb bel 3rabi (Lean ma3lomati khososieh) :shifty:

Shabab ani ashtoghol bel SYSTRA DK, Filial of SYSTRA SA, France. 3lesas sharel 5 enro7 safre yomen lel france enshof sharekatel om SYSTRA menak rah ajibelkom akhbar teyebe an 7azel mashro3 men ghalbel 7ades . :)


cheers

Metromurcia
March 20th, 2012, 09:49 PM
It is true there are only two rides per day? And are they electric powered? There are no pics in google :(

SumerianKing
March 20th, 2012, 11:49 PM
Ya mono rail ya ba6eekh?

IraqiPlan_et
May 2nd, 2012, 03:42 AM
The Provincial Council: Implementation of the Baghdad Metro Project mid-year
April 28 2012


Revealed the Baghdad Provincial Council on the implementation of the Baghdad Metro Project in the middle of this year by the Korean company.

The head of the Baghdad Provincial Council full-Zaidi's / JD / "The implementation of the Baghdad Metro Project will be in the middle of this year," noting that "the Korean company will implement the initial stages of this project. He said al-Zaidi," The Committee on the designs in the Municipality of Baghdad so far did not give design of the company that will be implemented Baghdad Metro Project. "The head of the Baghdad Provincial Council full-Zaidi, had confirmed that" the implementation of the Baghdad Metro Project will be by the secretariat of Baghdad and the supervision and control vested in the province of Baghdad. "It was Mayor of Baghdad, Sabir al-Issawi, announced in 2008, plans to establish a two-track Metro at a cost of three billion dollars, the first track of the Metro will be a length of 18 km and includes 20 stations and starts from the end of Sadr City, where the center locomotives main across the street Alچuadr up to the yard Khilani and yard jump (to the station the main common) and then walk under the street caliphs and Solaely Street Great Imam and ending with the Square (Antar) in Adhamiya, and that the second track with a length of 21 km and includes 21 stations and start from square open area of ​​the pool through the street Sadoun across the yard Khilani up to the yard jump and heading to the Mansour district through street (Damascus) and up to the intersection of Fair Baghdad International and is divided into two branches, one towards the Mansour area and up to Washash and Alakhrbatgah Bayaa area across the street from the south and ends at the intersection of Sharjah.

fazl1991
May 2nd, 2012, 03:50 AM
NICEEEE

BigDreamer
May 2nd, 2012, 03:53 AM
yaaaaallaa 3aad !! they've been saying the same crap for 3 years !

Chounz
May 2nd, 2012, 06:14 AM
'Korean Company'????? Isn't it supposed to be that French Alstom company?

I think this is just more nonsense; I'll wait for an English article..

dude01
May 2nd, 2012, 07:12 AM
One word to describe this article : "kharot"

Persi
August 31st, 2012, 11:13 PM
Hey guys, i just found this great news and was shocked how this was never posted here :?


امانة بغداد : اكمال التصاميم الخاصة بتنفيذ مشروع مترو بغداد مطلع العام القادم


بغداد / العدالة - 15/08/2012

اعلنت امانة بغداد ان شركة (سيسترا) الفرنسية ستكمل اعداد التصاميم ووضع المتطلبات الخاصة بتنفيذ مشروع مترو بغداد مطلع العام القادم 2013 .


ونقلت مديرية العلاقات والاعلام عن مدير عام دائرة التصاميم قوله ان " شركة (سيسترا) الفرنسية المتعاقدة مع امانة بغداد التي باشرت مهامها نهاية شهر كانون الاول من العام الماضي انجزت عدداً من الاعمال المناطة بها والخاصة بمشروع مترو بغداد بضمنها تقرير الانتر ميديا (الوسطي) واكمال المسوحات الطبوغرافية للخطوط وتحديد مواقع المحطات وتأشيرها ". واضاف ان " اعمال الشركة الفرنسية تسير بخطوات متسارعة لانجازها وفقاً للسقف الزمني المحددة لها لاسيما مع وجود لجنة اشراف مشتركة تتألف من ثلاث جهات هي امانة بغداد بصفتها الجهة الرئيسة المنفذة للمشروع ووزارة النقل الى جانب استشاريين من الجامعات العراقية ". واوضح ان " شركة (سيسترا) الفرنسية ستقدم التصاميم الاولية للمشروع خلال شهر ايلول القادم وتعرض على الورشة المتفق عليها لمناقشتها ثم تقدم التصاميم التفصيلية والمتطلبات الخاصة بالمترو في الربع الثاني من العام القادم "، لافتاً الى ان " امانة بغداد وبعد اكمال هذه العملية ستباشر بتوجيه الدعوات الى الشركات العالمية المنفذة المدرجة ضمن القائمة القصيرة لتقديم عروضها الفنية والتجارية ". وبين ان " مترو بغداد يتألف من خطين بطول (42) كم الاول يبدأ من مدينة الصدر بإتجاه ساحة عنتر في الاعظمية ويمر بساحة الخلاني وصولاً الى شارع الرشيد فيما يبدأ الخط الثاني من تقاطع عقبة بن نافع ويتجه الى شارع السعدون ويلتقي مع الخط الاول عند ساحة الخلاني ثم يعبر نهر دجلة ويتفرع من ساحة الفارس العربي الى منطقــتي المنصور والبياع في جــــانب الكرخ ".



http://www.aladalanews.net/index.php?show=news&action=article&id=101364

SumerianKing
September 1st, 2012, 01:23 AM
Meanwhile, Mr Ibrahim Hussain deputy Mayor of Baghdad led a delegation which visited French consultancy Systra at its Paris headquarters from June 22 to 24 to discuss the proposed USD 3 billion Baghdad metro project. The 2 parties expect to finalize an agreement to conduct a feasibility study for 2 underground lines in the near future. Eight international companies had been shortlisted for the design contract.

(From systra)

Long standing proposals envisage that Line 1 would be 18 kilometers long with 20 stations running from Sadr City in Al Rusafa, via Al Khulani in the city centre to Antar Square in the Al Adhamiyah district. A second line 22 kilometers long with 21 stations would run from Al Fath in the southeast to Al Khulani, providing an interchange with Line 1, before forking into two branches serving the western and southwestern districts.

sheytanElKebir
September 1st, 2012, 01:40 AM
do not get your hopes up.

Systra themselves state that their scope of work in Baghdad is just:


PRE-PROJECT SUMMARY STUDIES OF UNDERGROUND BAGDAD METRO


http://www.systra.com/?id_rubrique=54&page=rubrique&x=13&y=11

elusive
September 1st, 2012, 02:45 PM
lmao they scored a free trip to paris...

sheytanElKebir
September 1st, 2012, 04:53 PM
lmao they scored a free trip to paris...

hehehe. elusive its almost as if you can read their mind :lol:

elusive
September 3rd, 2012, 11:26 AM
hehehe. elusive its almost as if you can read their mind :lol:

haha well the Iraqi dental association, instead of spending money purchasing much needed dental equipment/materials sent a massive delegate to the dubai world dental exhibition :ohno: free holiday for all

sheytanElKebir
January 8th, 2013, 10:45 PM
one thousand passengers per hour does not compute!!! :D


anyway what they really need in iraq are proper double decker trains from alstom going to the huge new suburbs...

to thawra, ghazaliya, besmaya etc... like an RER network for baghdad.

http://www.alstom.com/Global/Transport/Resources/Images/X_trapolis%20suburban%20trains%20image%202.jpg

make it cheap for the passengers with "women carriages" cos we know what kind of sarsaris iraqis are.

sheytanElKebir
May 8th, 2013, 12:23 AM
hmmmm,.... :D

أعلنت أمانة بغداد، اليوم السبت، ان شركة (سيسترا) الفرنسية باشرت بتطوير التصاميم القديمة لمشروع (مترو بغداد) وأكدت أن العام الحالي سيشهد إنجاز جميع التصاميم والدراسات الخاصة بالمشروع من أجل االبدء بتنفيذه، لافتة إلى أن الكلفة التقديرية للمترو تبلغ نحو (7.5) مليار دولار.

وقال مدير دائرة التصاميم في أمانة بغداد نجم عبد جويد، في حديث إلى (المدى برس)، إن "شركة سيسترا الفرنسية التي فازت بإعادة وضع التصاميم لمشروع مترو بغداد قد باشرت بعملها"، مبينا أن "التصاميم والدراسات الخاصة بالمترو ستنجز هذا العام لتعرض بعدها على الشركات المختصة".

وأضاف جويد ان "الكلفة التخمينية للمشروع تبلغ (7.5) مليار دولار"، مبينا أن "مدة إنجاز المشروع تصل إلى (5) سنوات".

وأعلنت أمانة بغداد، في (14 آب 2012)، أن شركة سيسترا الفرنسية أنجزت الأعمال الخاصة بمترو بغداد بينها إكمال المسوحات له، وفيما بينت أن التصاميم الأولية للمشروع ستقدم خلال أيلول 2012.

وكانت أمانة بغداد أكدت، في 25 تموز 2011، أن شركة فرنسية تقوم بإعداد التصاميم الأولية لمشروع مترو العاصمة، داعية الشركات الفرنسية للتنافس مع الشركات العالمية الأخرى لتنفيذ مشاريع إعادة الاعمار، فيما أشار السفير الفرنسي في العراق إلى أن بغداد تشهد حاليا استقرارا امنيا يشجع الشركات على العمل فيها.

واختارت أمانة بغداد، في شباط 2011، سبع شركات عالمية من دول مختلفة لتقديم عروض وتصاميم لمشروع مترو بغداد، بكلفة قد تصل إلى ثلاثة مليارات دولار أميركي، حيث من المؤمل أن يحل هذا المشروع مشكلة الاختناقات المرورية التي تعاني منها شوارع المدينة.

وسيكون مترو بغداد من مسارين، الأول سيكون بطول 18 كم مع 20 محطة، ويبدأ من نهاية مدينة الصدر حيث المركز الرئيسي للقاطرات مروراً بساحة الخلاني ثم شارع الخلفاء فشارع الإمام الأعظم وانتهاءً بساحة عنتر في مدينة الأعظمية، أما المسار الثاني للمترو وسيبلغ طوله 21 كلم ويتألف من 21 محطة، ويبدأ مساره من ساحة الفتح بمنطقة المسبح مروراً بشارع السعدون ويتجه إلى منطقة المنصور عن طريق شارع دمشق ويصل إلى تقاطع معرض بغداد الدولي ويتفرع إلى فرعين أحدهما باتجاه المنصور ويصل إلى منطقة الوشاش والآخر باتجاه منطقة البياع عبر شارع الجنوب وينتهي عند تقاطع الشارقة.

وتشهد العاصمة العراقية اختناقات مرورية كبيرة في شوارعها بسبب تزايد أعدد السيارات وبقاء الطرق والجسور على حالها، فضلا عن إغلاق بعض الطرق لدواعي أمنية.

ويتلخص المشروع في وضع مسارين للمترو بطول (23) كم لكل مسار، ويبدأ المسار الأول من مدينة الصدر باتجاه ساحة الطيران مرورا بمنطقة ساحة بيروت، ومن ثم التوجه إلى المقبرة الملكية في الأعظمية، وربما بعدها إلى الكاظمية، على أن تكون المحطة الرئيسية في ساحة الخلاني قرب جسر السنك، أما المسار الثاني فيبدأ من ساحة عقبة بن نافع مرورا بشارع السعدون والمحطة الرئيسية ليشق بعدها نهر دجلة قرب جسر الأحرار باتجاه جانب الكرخ وصولا الى ساحة الفارس العربي ليتجه بعدها باتجاهين احدهما الى المنصور والآخر الى البياع، ومن المقرر أن يصل عدد القطارات إلى (86) قطار بطول (150) مترا، على أن تكون الفترة الزمنية الفاصلة بين كل قطارين هي دقيقتان.

يذكر أن التصاميم الأولية لمشروع مترو بغداد، وضعت عام 1981 لكن الظروف التي مرت بها البلاد، من حروب وحصار اقتصادي حالت دون الشروع به، وعاد الحديث مجددا عن المترو بعد 2003، وتتولى أمانة بغداد مسؤولية إعادة وضع التصاميم والإشراف على المشروع.

sheytanElKebir
May 8th, 2013, 12:24 AM
Announced that the secretariat of Baghdad, on Saturday, that the company (Systra) French embarked on the development of the old designs for the project (Baghdad Metro) and confirmed that the current year will see the completion of all the designs and studies for the project in order to start its implementation, pointing out that the estimated cost of Metro is about (7.5 billion) dollars.

The director of the Department of the designs in the Municipality of Baghdad star Abdul Javed, in an interview to (range Press), "The company Systra French, who won re-develop designs for Baghdad Metro Project has begun its work," noting that "the designs and studies for the metro will be completed this year to present later on competent companies. "

Javed added that "Estimated cost of the project is 7.5 billion dollars," noting that "the completion of the project period of up to five (5) years."

Baghdad Municipality announced, (14 August 2012), the French company Systra completed metro business Baghdad, including the completion of his surveys, showed that the initial designs for the project will be submitted through September 2012.

The secretariat of Baghdad confirmed, on 25 July 2011, the French company prepare preliminary designs for the Metro project capital, calling for French companies to compete with international companies to implement the reconstruction projects, as pointed out the French ambassador in Iraq that Baghdad is currently witnessing a stable security encourages companies to to work with.

And selected by the secretariat of Baghdad, in February 2011, seven international companies from different countries to submit bids and designs for Baghdad Metro Project, at a cost of up to three billion U.S. dollars, where it is hoped that this project will solve the problem of traffic jams plaguing the city streets.

It will be Metro Baghdad of two tracks, the first will be a length of 18 km with 20 stations, and starts from the end of Sadr City, where the main center for locomotives passing through the courtyard Khilani then Street caliphs Fshara Imam greatest and the end of the courtyard Antar in Adhamiya, second track and Metro will reach a length of 21 km and is composed of 21 station, and begins its path of Fath Square area of ​​the pool through the street-Sadoun, is heading to the Mansour district by Damascus Road and up to the intersection of the Baghdad International Fair, and is divided into two branches, one toward Mansour and up to the area of ​​Washash and the other towards the Baya across the street from the south and ends at the intersection of Sharjah.

Experiencing the Iraqi capital, a large traffic jams in the streets because increasing enumerate cars and roads and bridges remain intact, as well as the closure of some roads for security reasons.

And summed up the project in the development of two tracks of Metro-long (23) kilometers per track, begins the first track from Sadr City toward the yard flying through the area Beirut Square, and then go to the cemetery property in Adhamiya, and perhaps later to Kazimiyah, to be the main station in the yard Khilani near the bridge sink, second track begins Square Uqba passing through the street-Sadoun, the main station to shove after the Tigris River near the bridge Liberals toward the Karkh down to the yard jockey Arab to head after the two directions, one to Mansour and the other to Baya, is due to arrive number of trains to (86) train length (150 meters), to be the interval between each train is two minutes.

The preliminary designs for the Baghdad Metro Project, developed in 1981, but the conditions experienced by the country, from wars and economic blockade prevented initiate it, and returned to talk again about the subway after 2003, and holds the secretariat of Baghdad, the responsibility of re-setting designs and supervision of the project.



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