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madurakarenda
June 7th, 2012, 10:25 AM
i do not understand Anniyan comment , your comment.
i think in +2, Namakkal student secured state rank.
Namakka is famous for Brailer also..

Nothing is special in my reply. Anniyan is saying that SSLC board exams are 'memorizing contests' (in which the Namakkal, Tiruchengode, Andhiyur schools are pioneers) for 15 years old and he is wondering why some from those schools didn't score.

Me too meant more or less the same.

kannan infratech
June 7th, 2012, 10:34 AM
Namakkal Rasipuram style in State Board +2 is similar to Kota / Hyderabad in IIT.

Students from all over TN are sent there and in many schools hostel is compulsory.

If anybody wants Medical seats in TN or top engg college seats in TN and they are not naturally talented, Namakkal/ Rasipurram is ideal solution.

For 2 -4 years, every day from 4 am onwards the grinding starts. ROte Model perfected.

But many of these students are not able to fare better in medical or engg colleges.

venkyinblr
June 7th, 2012, 11:55 AM
Namakkal Rasipuram style in State Board +2 is similar to Kota / Hyderabad in IIT.

Students from all over TN are sent there and in many schools hostel is compulsory.

If anybody wants Medical seats in TN or top engg college seats in TN and they are not naturally talented, Namakkal/ Rasipurram is ideal solution.

For 2 -4 years, every day from 4 am onwards the grinding starts. ROte Model perfected.

But many of these students are not able to fare better in medical or engg colleges.

^^Yes Exactly , the long-term problem for them is they will lack a Complete Academics(like communication,bit of IQ) , when they are in to Professional life.I have heard stories that this is like prison where they squeeze you every day for just marks and marks.I would rather send my kids to a Standard school with focus on all the things required for a student life, never-mind the great higher marks what they could get.

madurakarenda
June 9th, 2012, 05:20 AM
http://www.thehindu.com/multimedia/dynamic/01106/08MA_KAMALHASAN_CI_1106957e.jpg

Versatile film actor Kamal Hassan is likely to be roped in as a key guide for the ambitious project of establishing a top class film institute in Madurai Kamaraj University here.

A state-of-the-art film institute is being set up on the university campus on the lines of the ones in Pune and Chennai.

The Vice-Chancellor, Kalyani Mathivanan, has made an announcement about this project after she assumed charge in April and preliminary discussions are now taking place with popular film personalities to get them on to the film institute advisory board.

In that process, renowned actor Kamal Hassan was approached and the project details were explained to him and his participation was sought.

“Yes, I met Kamal in Chennai last month. I am in touch with him…we are trying to get him on board because Kamal Hassan is a renowned artiste with deep interest in the film world. More details can be disclosed only later,” the Vice-Chancellor told “The Hindu” on Thursday when contacted.

A detailed project report is now being prepared by a reputed auditor in Chennai which will be taken to the Chief Minister's attention seeking funding support. Apart from Kamal Hassan, a few more personalities from the film industry will also be roped in to be on the advisory board. The Vice-Chancellor declined to divulge more names at this stage.
Five-year course

In the film institute, a five-year integrated course covering a range of specialities in film making such as editing, sound, cinematography, music and so on will be offered. The syllabus for this course would be prepared by the university taking expert inputs from film personalities.

Last month, Professor Kalyani Mathivanan, during her interaction with presspersons, has said that the university is thinking of getting some funding assistance from the University Grants Commission under the innovative scheme.

“Genuinely talented youngsters in south Tamil Nadu, who are interested in film making and film industry, will benefit from the MKU's film institute. We are planning it in such a way that students from all parts of the country can join the institute which will have a well-equipped studio,” she said.


http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Madurai/article3502122.ece

kannan infratech
June 9th, 2012, 11:46 AM
IIT Kanpur defies Kapil Sibal, to have own exam from 2013

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/iit-kanpur-defies-sibal-to-have-own-exam-from-2013/265100-3-222.html

I had the opportunity to discuss about the common admission test for IITs, NITs and othe Engg Institutes with people who are in the know of things.

It seems that most of the people including IIT Kanpur guys have not read the recommendations fully nor understood them correctly.

Please read them here
http://www.cse.iitk.ac.in/users/dheeraj/jee/ramasami-report-merged.pdf

HRD ministry had enegaged the Indian Statistical Institute for collecting and collating

All the 42 Higher Secondary Education Boards in India and plotted the performaces in a graph ( 42 curves) by using percentile function for each board so that the individual performance is trated in relation to the toppers in his / her own board. They did it for 50 - 60, 60-70, 70-80, 80-90, 90-100 marks ranges over the last 20 years.

Then they collected the performances of the AIEEE statewise / boardwise. They plotted the performances in a graph and fitted a curve. (over the last decade)

Then they collected IIT JEE performances statewise / boardwise for a decade. They plotted them and fitted a curve in a graph.

Then all these curves were plotted in a single graph - Boards vs AIEEE vs IITJEE.

They found the deviations for each boards vis a vis AIEEE & IIT JEE. The respective Boards Chiefs were called and shown the results and the most deviated boards were asked to up the standard. They have already started the process working.

TN Board Samacheer Kalvi is part of that. TN & Bengal Boards curves were found to be closer to the target curve. AP was more competitive than other but the performances were deviant (due to excessive concentration on IIT JEE).

Based on that they have designed an Exam pattern. It will have 3 parts.
Board Marks - 40% (Percentile only)
Main JEE ( Objective Type / Multiple Choice) & Advanced JEE (Subjective Type) - Balance - 60% from JEE.

Students are allowed to choose Main JEE alone or Main JEE and Advanced JEE. This means IIT aspirants can write Advanced JEE and others need not.

Institutes are free to accept any combination.
Not so elite institutes may take board marks + Main JEE.
Elite Institutes may take Board + Main JEE as Qualifying (Cut off above a certain %) and then.

IITs only will be setting the question paper for Advanced JEE, very similar to now but more on Subjective model (which was the norm for IIT JEE prior to 2000). So all these hulla bullo about lowering the standard are ill informed. Usurping their autonomy is also not true.

Even the Private Engg Colleges / Deemed Universities have accepted the new form of JEE.

The main opposition seems from the promoters of the IIT JEE Prep schools / institutes and their supporters.

The presently accepted Reservation policies by individual colleges will not be interfered with.

ramtongauler
June 14th, 2012, 05:48 PM
Unless otherwise Navodhya schools are started, our educational system in Tamil nadu will be still going downwards. The bitter part is that our politicans are gaining some polictical milage in the costs of students. That's really bad. Friends throw your views

murlee
June 16th, 2012, 10:32 AM
All-in-one textbooks score with students

For students like Mythili G., the new textbook under the trimester pattern which compiles all relevant chapters from various subjects into two comprehensive volumes, is a welcome relief.

“I come by bus from Kannagi Nagar, and earlier, since the bag was really heavy, even those seated would refuse to hold it. Since there are just two textbooks now and a few notebooks, I carry a smaller bag, and travelling has become much easier,” said the student of Chennai High School on V.P. Koil Street in Mylapore.

For many who commute by public transport, travelling has become much lighter this academic year. While students of classes I to V have just one volume with five subjects, students of classes VI, VII and VIII have two volumes — one for languages, i.e., Tamil and English, and another for Maths, Science, and Social Studies.

And that's just one of the many plus points. Rishitha M., a class V student at a city school, said that even though the textbook had all the five subjects, landing at the right page was easy because each section had colour-coded margins with references.

Vibha Dhoka, a class VII student said that she now packed a crayon box in her schoolbag and drew in her free time. Another student, Sharon Y.P, said her mother who kept a tab on her studies had to take a look at just one textbook now.

But there is also a downside to it. both upsides and downsides, Malavika S., a student of class VIII, said, “On the one hand, you don't have to look into the time-table each day and my school bag has become much lighter. But I have to carry an additional book as the language textbook has only English and Tamil, and my second language is Hindi. The spine of the book is not strong enough to hold the pages together, and if you forget to bring that one book, you don't have a textbook for an entire day,” she said.

Though accepting of the new system, Sangeetha R., who teaches students of class III, IV and V at a city school, is apprehensive about how her young students will maintain the textbook for a whole term.

“Since there is just one textbook, the students have to use it all day, and in some books, the pages are already showing signs of wear and tear,” she said.

She is also anxious about the distribution of the chapters over the trimesters. “Last year we had a total of seven poems and seven prose lessons for class V, and we covered three poems and three lessons in the first term as it is the longest. This year, the first trimester's textbook has only two poems and two lessons, and we are not sure how the rest of the portion will be distributed,” she said.

Though teachers say that it is too early to assess the trimester method, where students will be assessed through Continuous Comprehensive Evaluation and will not have to study the year's portions for the annual exam, students seem to have taken a liking to it.

“Forty marks are allotted for project work, slip tests, and activities and the theory paper is for 60 marks, as opposed to the usual 100 marks. This has made learning stress-free, interactive, and creatively challenging,” said M. Rajesh, a class VI student.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/chennai/article3533641.ece

murlee
June 16th, 2012, 10:32 AM
“Forty marks are allotted for project work, slip tests, and activities and the theory paper is for 60 marks, as opposed to the usual 100 marks. This has made learning stress-free, interactive, and creatively challenging,” said M. Rajesh, a class VI student.

:cheers:

murlee
June 22nd, 2012, 08:05 PM
Zee Learn expanding in TN


Zee Learn, the education arm of Essel Group, has announced plans to expand in Tamil Nadu.

At a press conference here, Mr Pradeep Pillai, Channel Head, K-12, Zee Learn, said the State Government’s school mapping exercise had revealed a need for primary and upper primary schools.

Zee Learn, which runs the Kidzee brand of preschools and Mount Litera Zee brand of schools that offer education from kindergarten to the 12th standard, will focus on Chennai, Madurai, Tiruchi, Tirunelveli and Kanchipuram, besides Puducherry.

There are over 900 Kidzees in India, 95 of them in TN. In the next 12-14 months, Zee Learn will add another 100 in the State. It expects to add 10-12 Mount Litera Zee schools, of which there are seven now in TN.

They will be set up in partnership with franchisees, education entrepreneurs and real estate players. Zee Learn follows a mixed model of owning, managing and franchising its schools.

Mr Pillai said the Rs 61-crore Zee Learn has been making big investments in expanding its business. It started BrainCafe, in association with Japanese company Gakken Education, to supplement science education in schools.

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/industry-and-economy/marketing/article3559435.ece?ref=wl_industry-and-economy

First time hearing about these schools..

Any idea about them??

kg4129
June 23rd, 2012, 04:47 AM
^^Mount Litera Zee school in Trichy too (Woriyur)

Mount Litera Zee School (http://www.mountlitera.com/MLZ-school-centres.html)

Kidzee also in Trichy as below

kidzee (http://www.kidzee.com/CenterSearch.aspx?cname=TIRUCHIRAPPALLI%20/%20TIRUCHI%20/%20TRICHY%20/%20TRICHINOPOLY)

madurakarenda
June 23rd, 2012, 04:55 AM
Zee Learn expanding in TN

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/industry-and-economy/marketing/article3559435.ece?ref=wl_industry-and-economy

First time hearing about these schools..

Any idea about them??

Could see a number of Mount Litera Zee schools here and there. We have it in Nagari (off NH7 to Sholavandhan) in Madurai and saw hoardings of the Mount Litera, Tiruppur in Palladam (during my last visit to Coimbatore) and have seen some advertisements in Trichy as well a month back.

Have heard that they have a presence in Erode, Karur, Salem and Coimbatore also. (Their website : www.mountlitera.com)

Kidzee (the zee schools' Preschool brand) too have a good presence over the cities of TN.

saysenthil
June 27th, 2012, 05:57 PM
Jaya allots Rs 61.12 cr for new students hostels (http://www.newstodaynet.com/newsindex.php?id=28274%20&%20section=6)



Tamilnadu Chief Minister J Jayalalithaa today ordered construction of own buildings for 148 hostels for backward, most backward and denotified tribes students all over the State.

According to an official release here, land has been identified to construct own buildings for 69 hostels which would house 50 students each and 15 hostels which would house 100 students each. These hostels were functioning in private buildings so far.

'The Chief Minister has alloted Rs 61.12 crore to construct buildings for these hostels. Also, she has allocated Rs 3.35 crore to install solar power equipment in these facilities,' said the statement.

The release also said Jayalalithaa has ordered upgradation of three Government Kallar Primary Schools as Middle Schools, and three Government Kallar Middle Schools as High Schools and three Government Kallar High Schools as Higher Secondary Schools.

'Due to the upgradation of these schools, 24 graduate teachers posts, 27 post graduate teachers posts, 3 junior assistants posts and 3 lab assistant posts will be created. The government will spend Rs 1.39 crore for this annually,' said the release.

Only last week, Jayalalithaa inaugurated seven student hostels constructed on behalf of the Department of Backward, Most Backward and Minorities Welfare at various districts including Karur, Tiruvallur and Madurai.

According to an official press release, the Chief Minister inaugurated the above facilities through video conference from the Secretariat in Chennai.

The hostels were constructed at a cost of Rs 3.51 crore. Further, she distributed pension-related benefits to the tune of over Rs 54 lakh to former employees of Wakf Board, the release said.

In December last, Jayalalithaa ordered construction of buildings for Adi Dravida hostels at 42 places all over the State.

'About 1,254 Adi Dravida welfare hostels, 40 tribal welfare hostels, 296 government tribal boarding schools are functioning at present from rented buildings. The Chief Minister wants to ensure that all these facilities are functioning from their own buildings,' said the press release,

It added: 'Based on this, Jayalalithaa has allotted Rs 46.50 crore to construct buildings for 93 Adi Dravida welfare hostels. She allotted Rs 21 crore for those hostels functioning in rented buildings but are ready to move into new premises'.

Anniyan
June 27th, 2012, 06:01 PM
IIM -A's senior prof to join Chennai maritime varsity as V-C

http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_iima-s-senior-prof-to-join-chennai-maritime-varsity-as-v-c_1707299

kannan infratech
June 27th, 2012, 06:05 PM
IIM -A's senior prof to join Chennai maritime varsity as V-C

http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_iima-s-senior-prof-to-join-chennai-maritime-varsity-as-v-c_1707299

Dr Vijayan is gone. What about the cases ?

chennaiyorker
June 28th, 2012, 12:13 AM
Top Medical Colleges in Tamil Nadu

http://kalvikalanjiam.com/english/top-medical-colleges-in-tamilnadu/

ganie006
June 28th, 2012, 10:33 AM
Thanjavur Gnanam School of Business achieves 100% Placement

The Management of Gnanam School of Business in the press meet held recently expressed immense pleasure and pride in announcing the successful completion of its 2010-12 MBA Batch and in securing 100% placement for the students consecutively for the 2{+n}{+d}year since its inception in 2009.

The announcement was officially made by Mr.Alagappan, the Founder CEO of Blossoms School, Thanjavur and Member-Governing Council GSB, in the presence of CEO of the college Mr. S.P.S Arul doss. And this was followed by a briefing of the College activities during the academic years 2010-12 by the Chairman of the college Mr. S.P.Selvaraj.

The Chief Guest observed that college through its various innovative and interactive teaching methodologies and guest lectures from eminent personalities of Industries inculcates in students, business acumen and entrepreneurship skills empowering them to meet the corporate requirements. Apart from the academic inputs, the college through its various tie-ups with reputed institutes like RAI, IIFB, MCX, NSE, supplement the students with various value addition certification courses to improve their employability.

The Chairman and the CEO extended their gratitude to all the corporate recruiters for the job placements provided to their students. The Management expressed their happiness on Top notch companies from various sectors hiring the students.

The Mix of companies featured in the placement programme is as listed below BNP Paribas ,HDFC bank, Karur Vysya Bank, City Union Bank (CUB) , Murugappa Group, TVS, Coca cola, TTK Prestige3i Infotech and Maveric BMA wealth Creators ,MCX ,Reliance Capital Dalma Motors, TATA AIG Insurance, Kotak life Insurance.

The Chairman shared that the companies were contended with the quality of students and expressed belief that GSB will be a favored destination for many more MNCs and Blue chip companies for campus recruitments in future.

The average salary offered for the outgoing batch of 2010-12 was 3.6 lakhs, an increase of 17% as compared to that of the previous batch of 2009-11.The sector wise placements also witnessed an improvement with equal number of students placed in Banking, Financial services, ITES, Retail and Manufacturing Industries.

The event was drawn to close with offer letters being handed over to the students by Mr. P. Alagappan and the students expressed their gratitude to the management for empowering them to achieve this feat.

madurakarenda
June 30th, 2012, 10:04 AM
சிவகங்கை அரசு மருத்துவ கல்லூரிக்கு அங்கீகாரம்: மருத்துவ கவுன்சில் உத்தரவு

சிவகங்கை : சிவகங்கை அரசு மருத்துவக் கல்லூரியில், நடப்பாண்டிற்கு, (2012-13) மாணவர்கள் சேர்க்கைக்கு அங்கீகாரம் வழங்கி, இந்திய மருத்துவ கவுன்சில் அனுமதியளித்துள்ளது.

கல்லூரி டீன் முனியப்பன் கூறியதாவது: இந்திய மருத்துவ கவுன்சில், சிவகங்கை கல்லூரிக்கு அங்கீகாரம் அளித்துள்ளதாக, தமிழக அரசுக்கு தெரிவித்துள்ளது. வரும் 5ம் தேதி முதல் துவங்கும் எம்.பி.பி.எஸ்., சேர்க்கைக்கான கவுன்சிலிங்கில், கல்லூரிகளுக்கான பட்டியலில், தமிழகத்தில், 18வது மருத்துவக் கல்லூரியாக, சிவகங்கை இடம்பெறும். தென் மாவட்ட மாணவர்கள், இங்கு மருத்துவம் படிக்க வாய்ப்பு கிடைத்துள்ளது. படிப்படியாக, கல்லூரிக்கு தேவையான பேராசிரியர்கள், ஊழியர்கள் நியமிக்கப்படுவர். இவ்வாறு டீன் கூறினார்.


http://www.dinamalar.com/News_Detail.asp?Id=497301

^^ Sivaganga Medical college given MCI approval to begin courses this academic year i.e 2012 - 2013

madurakarenda
July 1st, 2012, 08:59 AM
"விஷன் - 2023' திட்டம் : நடப்பு ஆண்டில் ஐந்து லட்சம் பேருக்கு தொழில் பயிற்சி

தமிழகத்தில், பயிற்சி பெற்ற தொழிலாளர்கள் பற்றாக்குறையை போக்கும் விதமாக, ஐந்தாண்டுகளில், 48 லட்சம் பேருக்கு, 1,400 வித தொழில்திறன் பயிற்சிகள் அரசால் அளிக்கப்படவுள்ளது. இந்தாண்டு மட்டும், 5.1 லட்சம் பேர் பயிற்சி பெறுகின்றனர்.

5.1 லட்சம் பேர் : தமிழக அரசு வெளியிட்ட, "விஷன் 2023' தொலைநோக்கு திட்டம் மூலம், ஐந்தாண்டு காலத்தில், 48 லட்சம் திறன் பெற்ற தொழில் பயிற்சியாளர்களை உருவாக்க, அரசு இலக்கு நிர்ணயித்துள்ளது.அந்த வகையில், மாநிலத்தில் உள்ள அனைத்து அரசு தொழிற்பயிற்சி நிலையங்கள் மற்றும் தனியார் தொழிற்பயிற்சி நிலையங்கள் மூலம், பல்வேறு தொழில் திறன் பயிற்சிகளை வழங்க, பயிற்சித் துறை முடிவெடுத்துள்ளது. இத்திட்டத்தில், இந்தாண்டில் மட்டும், 5.1 லட்சம் பேருக்கு பயிற்சிகள் வழங்கப்பட உள்ளன.

உதவித்தொகை : இதுகுறித்து, வேலைவாய்ப்பு மற்றும் பயிற்சித் துறை உயர் அதிகாரி கூறியதாவது: தொழிற்பயிற்சிகள் பெரும்பாலும், அரசு ஐ.டி.ஐ.,க்கள் மூலம் வழங்கப் படுகின்றன. தமிழகத்தின் அனைத்து மாவட்டங்களிலும் இத்திட்டத்தை துவக்க, நடவடிக்கை எடுக்கப்பட்டு வருகிறது. தொழிற்பயிற்சிகளை வழங்க, தகுதி வாய்ந்த பயிற்சியாளர்கள் தேவை. ஆகையால், முதல்கட்டமாக, இந்திய தொழில் கூட்டமைப்பில் உள்ள நிறுவனங்களில் பயிற்சி பெற்ற அதிகாரிகள், பயிற்சியாளர்களுக்கான நவீன திறன் பயிற்சிகளை அளித்து வருகின்றனர். இதில் 30 பேர், பயிற்சியை முடிக்க உள்ளனர். அடுத்த கட்டமாக இவர்கள், பணியாளர்களுக்கான பயிற்சியை அளிக்க உள்ளனர். துறையை பொறுத்து, ஒரு மாதம் முதல், இரண்டு ஆண்டுகள் வரை பயிற்சிக் காலம் இருக்கும். பயிற்சி பெறும் முழு காலத்திற்கும், பயில்வோருக்கு உதவித் தொகை வழங்கப்படும். இவ்வாறு அவர் கூறினார்.

ஐ.டி.ஐ.,யில் கூடுதல் இடம்! : முன்பெல்லாம், ஐ.டி.ஐ.,க்களில் சேர, இளைஞர்கள் பெரும்பாலும் ஆர்வம் காட்டுவதில்லை. ஆனால், அரசு ஐ.டி.ஐ.,களில், பயிற்சி முடித்ததும், பணி வாய்ப்பு கிடைத்து விடுவதால், 15 ஆயிரத்து, 776 இடங்களுக்கு, ஆண்டுதோறும், 50 ஆயிரத்திற்கும் மேற்பட்டோர் விண்ணப்பிக்கின்றனர்.
இதை கருத்தில் கொண்டு, இந்தாண்டில் மட்டும், 10 ஐ.டி.ஐ.,க் களை புதிதாக துவக்க அரசு முடிவு எடுத்துள்ளது. மேலும், பொது, தனியார் பங்களிப்பின் கீழ் துவக்குவதற்கான ஆய்வுகளும், நடத்தப்பட்டு வருகிறது. இதன் மூலம், ஐ.டி.ஐ., பயிற்சிக்கான இடங்களின் எண்ணிக்கை அதிகரிக்க வாய்ப்பு உள்ளது.


http://www.dinamalar.com/News_Detail.asp?Id=497910

^^ Govt to establish 10 ITIs this year and to see ways of setting up ITIs in PPP model

kannan infratech
July 1st, 2012, 07:18 PM
I am right now watching the Vijay TV Neeya Naana. The topic is Namakkal Type Student Factories - Boon or Bane ?

Interesting.

But I am afraid that our TN parents after seeing this program may force their children to study in these schools.

doccbe
July 1st, 2012, 08:12 PM
^^

Even though I had studied in one of these schools, I hate them to the core. It may be good for the short term but disastrous on a long term. I always want to forget those eleventh and twelfth school days.

kannan infratech
July 1st, 2012, 08:56 PM
The Namakkal Gobi school owners were arrogant but could not answer to genuine questions.

It was shocking to know that they give very harsh physical punishments and the students are allowed to sleep for only a few hours.

Psychological scars incurred during those two or three years stay for life, it seems

I hope that TN Govt brings back the Engg & Medical admission tests.

doccbe
July 1st, 2012, 10:07 PM
^^

But the school in which I studied had physical punishment only on disciplinary violations and not for under performance in academics. But I had a restricted sleeping time. I think nobody would cherish those type of school days.

Is there any possibility of bringing the entrance exams back? Since you are close to govt you can tell the future plans our govt has on this issue. Do you really think that this would happen?

chennaiyorker
July 2nd, 2012, 01:09 AM
OMFG...I saw the neeya naana episode and i was cringing when the "military" school people were proudly talking about their methods to get the kids score high marks - 5.30 am to 10pm...seriously? what's wrong with them? what's wrong with the parents?

Going by the students' reactions, none of them liked their school! I'm glad that my high school days were fun. we studied hard, played hard and they gave us avenues to do both! no doubt, there was a lot of pressure to score good marks, but there were lotsa avenues that allowed us to let off the steam as well..annual day/sports day/house day celebrations, inter school sports competitions, plus youth camp for sex ed....and, of course we had a few party pooping teachers, but who doesn't?

A school's purpose is not to just teach how to get marks....

kongutamizhan
July 2nd, 2012, 01:21 AM
But why target or single out namakkal schools alone? Because they came first in the state now (or have been that way for past few years?). It is a pan TN problem that we go after marks. It's a 50 year old problem. Targeting Namakkal schools alone is unfair (and fishy). Instead i would have appreciated had Gopi gone after the system. After all schools just are the medium that aligns with our system(mark based)

If school representatives were arrogant what do u say about activist Kadarkarai?

murlee
July 2nd, 2012, 03:51 AM
I think u are confusing 2 different issues.

The pan TN problem in education is the rote system of getting marks while the Namakkal zone specific issue is about the military discipline and absolute lack of any extra curricular activity encouraged in schools.

kongutamizhan
July 2nd, 2012, 04:15 AM
I think u are confusing 2 different issues.

The pan TN problem in education is the rote system of getting marks while the Namakkal zone specific issue is about the military discipline and absolute lack of any extra curricular activity encouraged in schools.

Not only them. I know of several in chennai, coimbatore, erode area that follows such discipline (that doesnt mean others in state don't do it).

murlee
July 2nd, 2012, 04:33 AM
Not only them. I know of several in chennai, coimbatore, erode area that follows such discipline (that doesnt mean others in state don't do it).

Of course there are several such institutions in other cities as well.. But, exceptions shouldn't be taken as the norm, right??

The thing is, parents from other places go and admit their wards to Namakkal schools specifically for this tough discipline. I still remember my dad's friend advising him to admit me in Rasipuram after my 10th. The phrase he used was " olunga padikalana bend-a nimithiru vanga!"

Thank God my dad didn't pay heed to his advice.

krishnaswamy
July 2nd, 2012, 05:06 AM
We never heard about "Namakkal schools" during our schooling days.
Still mug up and vomitting was there.
just 1 sample.
1. +2 chemistry tution class, suddenly power went off. It was a friday and everybody was happy that teacher will ask us to go home and so we can watch "Oliyum, Oliyum". but he was a smart guy. He told he will teach Phosporus lesson(inorganic chemistry) on next day, but for now, he will tell all the equations of Phosporus and we need to repeat it until 9 pm.
that day also, we had the chance to see only "World this week" .:(

venkyinblr
July 2nd, 2012, 10:53 AM
^^

Even though I had studied in one of these schools, I hate them to the core. It may be good for the short term but disastrous on a long term. I always want to forget those eleventh and twelfth school days.


It is well said.Best is to get the words out of an victims mouth.If we want to get the kids the knowledge thn this school is not the one..pls advice you near and dear ones..

venkyinblr
July 2nd, 2012, 10:56 AM
Not only them. I know of several in chennai, coimbatore, erode area that follows such discipline (that doesnt mean others in state don't do it).


The epicenter of this kind of education arose out of (and still is) Namakal,Erode belt , this is very high when compared to other districts.They are the forerunners who may mislead the enriched educational way of TN(I could see students with high marks from these schools couldnt talk in simple english)

venkyinblr
July 2nd, 2012, 11:01 AM
We never heard about "Namakkal schools" during our schooling days.
Still mug up and vomitting was there.
just 1 sample.
1. +2 chemistry tution class, suddenly power went off. It was a friday and everybody was happy that teacher will ask us to go home and so we can watch "Oliyum, Oliyum". but he was a smart guy. He told he will teach Phosporus lesson(inorganic chemistry) on next day, but for now, he will tell all the equations of Phosporus and we need to repeat it until 9 pm.
that day also, we had the chance to see only "World this week" .:(

^^Thanjavurla yaaruta chemistry tution ponnenga..perhaps im from same stock :)

krishnaswamy
July 2nd, 2012, 11:05 AM
^^Thanjavurla yaaruta chemistry tution ponnenga..perhaps im from same stock :)
Famous duo of chemistry teachers from 2 different school. 1 is famous for in-organic and the other is famous for Organic.
"Thevar Magan" kamal hasan meesiyum, Enfield bike-yum nenaichu parunga ..anthe Phosporus teacher pathi..

venkyinblr
July 2nd, 2012, 11:11 AM
Famous duo of chemistry teachers from 2 different school. 1 is famous for in-organic and the other is famous for Organic.
"Thevar Magan" kamal hasan meesiyum, Enfield bike-yum nenaichu parunga ..anthe Phosporus teacher pathi..

^^The Great VKR ta tuition ponnega polla iruku..he taught me chemistry in school..but went to a different tuition teacher..nice to recollect all those funny scenarios with VKR as a Always out-standing students.kadidi varikum nan antha periodic tables and something like formula tab column atha naa avarta sollavae illa.:lol::lol:

krishnaswamy
July 2nd, 2012, 11:16 AM
^^The Great VKR ta tuition ponnega polla iruku..he taught me chemistry in school..but went to a different tuition teacher..nice to recollect all those funny scenarios with VKR as a Always out-standing students.kadidi varikum nan antha periodic tables and something like formula tab column atha naa avarta sollavae illa.:lol::lol:
oh,..i am the student of other "duo". but Namakkal schoole-e ippo pannura anthe mark classification was done that time itself and i am bracked in the top mark pool and in that batch(monday) except myself and 1 more guy, rest all others are from KHS ;)
All my close friends came on Tuesday batch :(

venkyinblr
July 2nd, 2012, 11:20 AM
oh,..i am the student of other "duo". but Namakkal schoole-e ippo pannura anthe mark classification was done that time itself and i am bracked in the top mark pool and in that batch(monday) except myself and 1 more guy, rest all others are from KHS ;)
All my close friends came on Tuesday batch :(
.

:lol: it was quite funny hw we mug up during those days..if some one ask me now..will either die or kill the party..

krishnaswamy
July 2nd, 2012, 11:23 AM
:lol: it was quite funny hw we mug up during those days..if some one ask me now..will either die or kill the party..
I do not see the difference between +2 and software.
how many people understand the concepts and do the development?
google with Ctrl C+Ctrl V Combo ille neriya peru Ambo...

robertashok
July 2nd, 2012, 11:32 AM
google with Ctrl C+Ctrl V Combo ille neriya peru Ambo...

Well I was asked this question for an interview, I told them I can without google, he asked me how, I explained,but still did not get through.

venkyinblr
July 2nd, 2012, 11:33 AM
I do not see the difference between +2 and software.
how many people understand the concepts and do the development?
google with Ctrl C+Ctrl V Combo ille neriya peru Ambo...

Agree.Period. :)

kannan infratech
July 2nd, 2012, 11:57 AM
Top Software companies and TN Govt have formed ICTACT and are training the Computer Science teachers in the schools all over TN.

I happened to see one program from close quarters and I was really impressed.

But the schools from rural areas do not show much interest in these programs since their teachers are afraid to attend such programs.

One of the Software Professional who doubled as a teacher also formed Google Groups with 9 students per group and taught them online also just week before examns. He selected mainly those who failed in CS subject but scored well in Maths - mainly from Corporation Schools and poor students from other schools. Almost 200 students in total.

Almost all the students who learnt from him scored 90%+ in CS boards. (They were failing in their school CS examns before that).

One comment from such student : .... Sir varadhukku munnale, CS subject nale ore Bhayam. Sir romba velayatta katthu kodutharu. Usual Exam ezhuhina madhiriye (Kashtam) ille. 98% vaangiitten.

Another Student : .... Sir varadhukku munnala, Edhukkaga CS use agum ne clear a theriyadhu. Ippo naane oru small program ezhudhi irukken. Enga schoola ippo adha use pannranga. Naandhan School First. HM prayer meetingla enna kooppittu Malai ellam pottaru. Enga Nayinavum, Ammavum Patthuttu romba azhudhuttanga.

Another Student : Enga veettula Kanakku Padam (Accountancy) edukka chonnanga. Enga Science teacher dhan, ennai Computer Science edukka chonnaru. Ellaa School tests layum Fail dhan. .... SIr vandha pinna, romba jolly a irukku. Paadam padikkaradhila kooda ivvalavu easy a irukkumne theriyadhu. CS la naan 90%. Maths la 84%. Physics ladhan koranju poittu. New College la BSC apply panniyirukken.

Anniyan
July 2nd, 2012, 02:19 PM
UPSC should conduct exam in Tamil: Karunanidhi to Manmohan
Chennai: DMK chief M Karunanidhi today claimed that Hindi-speaking candidates enjoyed an edge due to changes incorporated in the UPSC exams in 2010 and sought intervention of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh in extending similar benefit to Tamil-speaking students to ensure a level-playing field.

The UPSC had introduced a "significant change," in the Civil Services Aptitude Test and questions in the new format were framed in such a way that only candidates well-versed in English will be able to answer them in the stipulated time of two hours, Karunandihi, whose DMK is a key constituent in the UPA, said in a letter to Singh.

"However such questions are also found translated in Hindi.

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So candidates who are conversant in Hindi can understand the questions easily by reading its Hindi version," he said.

The change had allowed Hindi-speaking candidates to end up scoring more in CSAT and has emerged as a "severe challenge" for those from Tamil Nadu, he said, adding, the present system was in violation of Article 14 of the Constitution, i.e Right to Equality.

He said while 122 of 980 candidates selected through Union Public Service Commission exams in 2010 hailed from the state, it had dipped to 68 out of 910 the next year and blamed the change in pattern for the declining trend, claiming it had put the Tamil-speaking students "at a clear disadvantage."

If the present system of framing questions continued, it would result in a further dip. Candidates from Tamil Nadu were of the view that the benefit provided to their Hindi-speaking counterparts should be extended to them also, Karunanidhi said.

The Railway Board conducted exams in Tamil and UPSC should also consider doing so, he said.

The objective of the UPSC exam was to test and select the best and brightest candidates and its purpose will not be diluted by providing translation of the questions in Tamil as well as Hindi. This will provide candidates from the state a level playing field, he said.

"Kindly intervene to find a solution to the issue that is likely to make a lasting impact on the policy and programmes of the country in future," he told Manmohan Singh.




http://www.ndtv.com/article/south/upsc-should-conduct-exam-in-tamil-karunanidhi-to-manmohan-238646

chennaidesi
July 2nd, 2012, 04:28 PM
During neeya naana only one guy talked about how namakkal type students are doing in IIT's or CG exam in general but unfortunately the discussions did not continue.

Do you think at least in 2013 little more TN guys can make it to IIT because of new exam style. Of course in 2014 there is no chance as usual the Kota institutes will come up with good question bank based on 2013 syllabus.

kannan infratech
July 2nd, 2012, 04:39 PM
During neeya naana only one guy talked about how namakkal type students are doing in IIT's or CG exam in general but unfortunately the discussions did not continue.

Do you think at least in 2013 little more TN guys can make it to IIT because of new exam style. Of course in 2014 there is no chance as usual the Kota institutes will come up with good question bank based on 2013 syllabus.

TN State Board Students & Parents do not worry much for IIT or NITs. So these schools also do not worry much.

If TN Engg & Med admission test is revived or the Kapil Sibal recommended CAT is used, then there will be some qualitative improvement. But TN Govt & Political parties will fight tooth & nail. They do not realise that they have already killed most in a generation of students by abolishing the entrance test.

In South, AP (Hyd) and TN (Namakkal / Gobi) areas have the most no of Residential schools who prepare the students for IIT or TN Boards.

Even if AICTE becomes strict, things may improve on the std of faculty & infra & results of the pvt engg colleges.

I feel that TN & Maha may be the best places to try new ideas as people are genuinely passionate about Education (AP is one extreme & BIMARU are the other extremes)

jaish
July 2nd, 2012, 05:16 PM
But why target or single out namakkal schools alone? Because they came first in the state now (or have been that way for past few years?). It is a pan TN problem that we go after marks. It's a 50 year old problem. Targeting Namakkal schools alone is unfair (and fishy). Instead i would have appreciated had Gopi gone after the system. After all schools just are the medium that aligns with our system(mark based)

If school representatives were arrogant what do u say about activist Kadarkarai?

+1. I just don't know how would you evaluate a student if there is no mark. I storngly feel it was against namakkal schools because they are offering best possible results at very less price. Calling people scores by rote with concept are something which people could not do.

Now rich and influential wants to confuse the system so their lazy kids to get the benefit..

My daughter never studies just takes same way like all those kids by studying you are going to get anything, totally opposite to me who used to burn midnight oil to score a seat in CEG. There was a drive not pressure from my parents. The way mother used to see CEG whenever we used cross it was the drive for me.

All this drama now played are just to support lazy kids who wants to enjoy i-pad, I-pod, Vijay TV but still wants to land in professional course with their parents money.

jaish
July 2nd, 2012, 05:19 PM
We never heard about "Namakkal schools" during our schooling days.
Still mug up and vomitting was there.
just 1 sample.
1. +2 chemistry tution class, suddenly power went off. It was a friday and everybody was happy that teacher will ask us to go home and so we can watch "Oliyum, Oliyum". but he was a smart guy. He told he will teach Phosporus lesson(inorganic chemistry) on next day, but for now, he will tell all the equations of Phosporus and we need to repeat it until 9 pm.
that day also, we had the chance to see only "World this week" .:(

Why he should have done that? That was the drive which has given the strength to survive as the fittest.

jaish
July 2nd, 2012, 05:23 PM
I think u are confusing 2 different issues.

The pan TN problem in education is the rote system of getting marks while the Namakkal zone specific issue is about the military discipline and absolute lack of any extra curricular activity encouraged in schools.

Those schools are not for who wants extra curricular activities. Those who wants extracurricular activities let them join in scools which claims as Rs 100K as fees teachs horse riding, singapore tour, how to open account in FB. What kannan sir said is correct, TN students don't try much for IITs. More over getting selection for IIT is also the same way only learn . see what is happening in KOTA

gvijayan
July 2nd, 2012, 06:03 PM
It is the parents and the teachers that need to be blamed. Students in Namakkal Zone schools are victims of the mistakes by their parents and the teachers.

I know of several parents from various other districts sending their children to Rasipuram, Nammakkal or Tiruchengode for 11th and 12th standard.

According to parents, their children MUST score 100%. Even if one tricky non-standard question (where the student should think a bit before answering) is asked in a public exam of 10th or 12th, it is blown out of proportion by the media. News headlines like "12 am Vaguppu pothu thervu Vina thaal kadinam. Maanavargal athirchi, petrorgal kumural." are not uncommon.

Parents and teachers make that a big news, and demand for grace marks when correcting. In most cases, the Department of education ends up giving grace marks for such questions.

Nobody seem to understand that getting a seat in a college is purely based on relative scoring and not absolute marks.

Before 2004, a cut off mark of 270 was considered excellent, and you will get a place in a Top tier college easily.

Around 2004-05 political parties started interfering in the toughness of the entrance exam, and they became just another public exam. Even 280 then became an average score. Parents seemed to take pride in their children getting 280 and even though they end up in an average college.

Also, everyone forgets the basics of Ranking System.

When 10 students get 1186, they are all State 1st - which is okay.
When 15 other students get 1185, they are termed State 2nd - which is totally illogical. They are all State 11th.
When 20 other students get 1184, they are termed State 3rd - which again is illogical. They are all 26th.

People are always running behind marks and forget what real education is. At the end of the day their children suffer big time during their professional education.

I had a classmate from one such school in Tiruchengode with an Engineering cut-off mark of 294 (it was when the Entrance Exams were still present). He was not able to cope up with the Engineering course, and ran into a lot of issues.

I am also from the same zone, but studied in a Government School (through Tamil medium), but I was able to perform better.

jaish
July 2nd, 2012, 06:21 PM
Dont say that out, Next week gopinath will conduct neeya naana how a government school tamil medium student can join in engineering college.

chennaiyorker
July 2nd, 2012, 06:33 PM
+1. I just don't know how would you evaluate a student if there is no mark. I storngly feel it was against namakkal schools because they are offering best possible results at very less price.

Now rich and influential wants to confuse the system so their lazy kids to get the benefit..

All this drama now played are just to support lazy kids who wants to enjoy i-pad, I-pod, Vijay TV but still wants to land in professional course with their parents money.

I woud like to disagree Jaish....The rich and influential need not confuse the system as they will get their kids into professional colleges with their money anyways! I don't think they care. If the kid complains about the school being very hectic, the rich will change them to a school which will suit the kid. so, this is not a conspiracy, IMO.

These military schools will produce only lemmings, who will follow what is already there, and will not produce free thinkers and leaders. They do not give any avenues for creativity or imagination or critical thinking, if not for "extra/co-curricular" activities; and that is the main point of discussion in that program.

deepu051993
July 2nd, 2012, 06:41 PM
It is the parents and the teachers that need to be blamed. Students in Namakkal Zone schools are victims of the mistakes by their parents and the teachers.

I know of several parents from various other districts sending their children to Rasipuram, Nammakkal or Tiruchengode for 11th and 12th standard.

Also, everyone forgets the basics of Ranking System.

When 10 students get 1186, they are all State 1st - which is okay.
When 15 other students get 1185, they are termed State 2nd - which is totally illogical. They are all State 11th.
When 20 other students get 1184, they are termed State 3rd - which again is illogical. They are all 26th.

KT sir, The Debate specifically on Namakkal zone need not be thought fishy as there is a reason when all the first three marks are from the zone, but what about the overall pass percentage of the district, are they even in top 10, this shows there are studying students but more average students, all because of residential students.

Students of 10th, 12th are some what grown, but think of children of class 5 and even below who are boarding there, i don't know how parents making their child to separate from them and stay in hostel. Heard from boarding students that small children would cry to the teachers to speak or go home to meet their parents, but are not allowed, which is more horrible life for a child.

Vijayan sir, i think the announcement is made as no. of students got first mark, second mark, etc. where does they announce ranking in 12th result.

kongutamizhan
July 2nd, 2012, 06:50 PM
These schools will produce only lemmings, who will follow what is already there, and will not produce free thinkers and leaders. They do not give any avenues for creativity or imagination or critical thinking, if not for "extra/co-curricular" activities; and that is the main point of discussion in that program.

What are "these" schools? Only namakkal schools? How much % of schools in TN today have a ***functional*** school ground to encourage few sports? Does the schools outside namakkal really encourage creativity? May be 20%? (being liberal).

Namakkal school system itself is a victim of our education system of which the students are victims. Namakkal system is just a tactic that aligns with our "mark-only-matters" education system. They are in rat-race just like others.

They are in frying pan now because they devised a functional tactic that works for students to score marks when it matters (on 12th) better than other schools in rat-race. So may be other schools cry foul. But their tactic were no more (or less) creative than namakkal systems when they held the top position.

PS> This doesn't mean that I approve of this system. I am only saying we are barking at wrong tree. Of-course if you don't like there is an easy fix. Why enroll your kids there?

jaish
July 2nd, 2012, 06:50 PM
Can you please show one system where all people went in become leader and great scientist. Where we can show so many evidences that school drop outs have made great in their life. Becoming great is inherent strength and dedication of one Individual (Mayilsamy, APJT Abdul kalam, Valarmathy). Remaining all the people we need soldeirs with great focus and dedication to perform within the given rules of game. City people could not digest the fact somebody from namakal gaining all the accolades. Like crying china is following strict procedure to gain olymibic gold medal.

Anniyan
July 2nd, 2012, 06:53 PM
I agree with kongutamizhan.

madurakarenda
July 2nd, 2012, 06:57 PM
One of my friends has planned to take a short film on this Namakkal region residential school life, since he was a victim of some among them from 5th standard. Let me hope he succeeds in his efforts and I share it here.

Anniyan
July 2nd, 2012, 07:00 PM
The claim that namakkal students wont shine in their university studies and career is similar to the biased argument that a section of people/media make against reservation seats in education.

krishnaswamy
July 2nd, 2012, 07:01 PM
Its true that most of the schools does follow the mugup pattern in TN, that too nowadays, it is just too much.
Even in 90s, when the entrance exam system was there, during +1, only +1 lessons were taught in the school. After the exam, they will start +2 tutions with 15 days vacation.
After the +2 exam, when the entrance exam was there, there is a 1 month separate "coaching centers" was there and same teachers taught the same lessons in a different "analytical" way.lot of mug up students could not repeat the same magic in the entrance exams, where as the "analytical" person, gets more mark in the entrance exam. Thus "the cut off" marks were kind of balanced one in those days.
Even in those days too, metriculation students moved to state board XI find it very easy as they learnt most of the lessons as part of their curriculam.

It looks, now everything is messed up with people chasing only "marks". High time for Entrance exams to be brought back.

chennaiyorker
July 2nd, 2012, 07:12 PM
What are "these" schools? Only namakkal schools? How much % of schools in TN today have a ***functional*** school ground to encourage few sports? Does the schools outside namakkal really encourage creativity? May be 20%? (being liberal).

Namakkal school system itself is a victim of our education system of which the students are victims. Namakkal system is just a tactic that aligns with our "mark-only-matters" education system. They are in rat-race just like others.

They are in frying pan now because they devised a functional tactic that works for students to score marks when it matters (on 12th) better than other schools in rat-race. So may be other schools cry foul. But their tactic were no more (or less) creative than namakkal systems when they held the top position.

PS> This doesn't mean that I approve of this system. I am only saying we are barking at wrong tree. Of-course if you don't like there is an easy fix. Why enroll your kids there?

I did not refer to Namakkal schools, when I said "these" schools. "These" refer to all schools which follow regimented rote type methods. It is the reality that the Namakkal schools have made it their USP to garner more students into their institutions. It is indeed a their "creative" tactic to get more business. However, their products tend to be utterly incapable of being creative!

I agree the system pushes for more marks. Maybe we are barking at the wrong tree when you see the big picture. However, a school is not just a business. In my opinion, as much as they have responsibilities to give returns to their stakeholders, they have a responsibility in creating healthy minds! I saw that to be the crux of the program. I don't have an issue with them because of their "success" rate and neither am I associated with any of the schools crying foul. To me, it is a non issue who is crying foul, as long as what is cried at is actually foul!

jaish
July 2nd, 2012, 07:31 PM
Its true that most of the schools does follow the mugup pattern in TN, that too nowadays, it is just too much.


How one could one mugup with out understanding. Even if it so, that is the rule of the game. IMO, if the system is fault, it would not have turned so many people life into prosperity. Can any body suggest / show best system in world?

How our system produced APJ Abdulkalam, Mayilsami, Valarmathi...

chennaiyorker
July 2nd, 2012, 07:36 PM
Can you please show one system where all people went in become leader and great scientist. Where we can show so many evidences that school drop outs have made great in their life. Becoming great is inherent strength and dedication of one Individual (Mayilsamy, APJT Abdul kalam, Valarmathy). Remaining all the people we need soldeirs with great focus and dedication to perform within the given rules of game.

Well, at this point in history we are a country who need more leaders and thinkers...with that fact in mind, I don't think we can afford to arrest 100 minds out 100 in the class to follow rules and nothing else. That simply is not wise to me. Yes, there are great many examples of great personalities who came up through their own drive without being in a great school system. However, that does not discount the fact that a school's responsibility is to determine who amongst its students have the potential to be leaders and thinkers, and encourage those qualities in them.

It is also the responsibility of a parent to see if their kid really is gaining from this system and make the right call! for every rank holder/professional seat getter, there are hundreds of "under achievers" who are tortured during the prime years of their adolescence! they may have not gotten in whether in a Namakkal school or any other school. It is not their calling and they end up with scars to carry for the rest of their lives!

chennaiyorker
July 2nd, 2012, 07:42 PM
It looks, now everything is messed up with people chasing only "marks". High time for Entrance exams to be brought back.

+1

krishnaswamy
July 2nd, 2012, 07:44 PM
How one could one mugup with out understanding. Even if it so, that is the rule of the game. IMO, if the system is fault, it would not have turned so many people life into prosperity. Can any body suggest / show best system in world?

How our system produced APJ Abdulkalam, Mayilsami, Valarmathi...
Well,it does not mean that every body is doing mug up. as your question itself answers, we have few exceptions only. that is possible in any system.Here we are discussing on the "majority" crowd of mug up and always there are some % of exceptions.
In my batch, most of the mug up failed badly in Entrance test.

jaish
July 2nd, 2012, 07:52 PM
Well, at this point of history we are a country who need more leaders and thinkers...with that fact in mind, I don't think we can afford to arrest 100 minds out 100 in the class to follow rules and nothing else. That simply is not wise to me. Yes, there are great many examples of great personalities who came up through their own drive without being in a great school system. However, that does not discount the fact that a school's responsibility is to determine who amongst its students have the potential to be leaders and thinkers, and encourage those qualities in them.

I too agree with you. All i am asking is tell me the system how school could identify that qualities in one individual with out any bias (Class and Caste). Instead of that develop and create the ambience how those few individual got drive. our system develops some of world class renowed people in every field that you can name.

chennaiyorker
July 2nd, 2012, 08:03 PM
All i am asking is tell me the system how school could identify that qualities in one individual with out any bias (Class and Caste).

All I'm saying is the answer to that question is CERTAINLY not putting 100 students in a class room, and not letting them know each other, and asking them to look at a point in the middle of a circle on the wall, and drive them like slaves to read the same stuff repeatedly, and testing them every day from 5.30am to 10.00pm! Terrorists locked down at GITMO are prolly treated better!

madurakarenda
July 2nd, 2012, 08:04 PM
I don't think Kalam, Mayilsami, etc formed just like that. It was because they landed in the right place i.e personally with some kind hearted persons (in their schools and colleges) good enough to have identified the person inside them and promoted to the next level in their knowledge (We may even see their names in their auto bio graphies like 'Agni Siragugal').

Nowadays, I could see teachers (in colleges) who think that "Enge ivan nammala vuda periya aala aaiduvaano?". But schools and teachers are really good (The one who used to take Physics for us was really good -> see I am remembering him because he was good, I remember the evil ones (in my college) too but not for good reasons).

jaish
July 2nd, 2012, 08:06 PM
Well,it does not mean that every body is doing mug up. as your question itself answers, we have few exceptions only. that is possible in any system.Here we are discussing on the "majority" crowd of mug up and always there are some % of exceptions.
In my batch, most of the mug up failed badly in Entrance test.

So what, all those people would have got some other course.

I feel we could not perform to our potential because we are bonded to our family and could not follow the passion. Next generation surely will rise up wait.

kongutamizhan
July 2nd, 2012, 08:10 PM
I too agree with you. All i am asking is tell me the system how school could identify that qualities in one individual with out any bias (Class and Caste). Instead of that develop and create the ambience how those few individual got drive. our system develops some of world class renowed people in every field that you can name.

Few things that I can think of. All this under assumption that you don't have to really evaluate a student till class 12.


Change it to GPA based system based on range instead of marks.
Common entrance will do for most institutions like few mentioned
References on the student's work (Again with a grade /assessment of the student's skills by teachers outside subject)
References on his extra-curricular by reputed experts outside school
If a graduate / elite school (college) still thinks it is not enough they can judge them through a seperate test or viva/interview process


All these will work only when the outside system is fool proof and less corrupt. Negative side of this is teachers and supposedly "experts" may ask for bribe for references. That has to be addressed.

Yes it has to be dealt with a multi-pronged approach based on a complex-but-transparent (oxymoron??) system because education is serious business

lordvijay
July 2nd, 2012, 08:17 PM
There's no such thing as a bad student, there's only an incapable teacher. We need to address the poor quality of teachers first.

jaish
July 2nd, 2012, 08:17 PM
All I'm saying is the answer to that question is CERTAINLY not putting 100 students in a class room, and not letting them know each other, and asking them to look at a point in the middle of a circle on the wall, and drive them like slaves to read the same stuff repeatedly, and testing them every day from 5.30am to 10.00pm! Terrorists locked down at GITMO are prolly treated better!

You are exagerating. They have not got all those people by force. They went their voluntarily . How army is being trained?

So you want only gain with out any pain. So every body here want a system that give 100% of mark with out any effort. Basic lesson in life is success is directly proportional to your effort.

Always remember Vedam Pudidhu Dialogue by Sangrachariar When question was raised to him 6 people could not lift you? how 4 atheist has lifted you with ease?

jaish
July 2nd, 2012, 08:23 PM
Few things that I can think of. All this under assumption that you don't have to really evaluate a student till class 12.


Change it to GPA based system based on range instead of marks.
Common entrance will do for most institutions like few mentioned
References on the student's work (Again with a grade /assessment of the student's skills by teachers outside subject)
References on his extra-curricular by reputed experts outside school
If a graduate / elite school (college) still thinks it is not enough they can judge them through a seperate test or viva/interview process


All these will work only when the outside system is fool proof and less corrupt. Negative side of this is teachers and supposedly "experts" may ask for bribe for references. That has to be addressed.

Yes it has to be dealt with a multi-pronged approach based on a complex-but-transparent (oxymoron??) system because education is serious business

I agree to your last two paragraph in totality. Given the situation the current system with some tinkering would do good thing.

Wait Reliance is waiting for big opportunity to jump see how our system dances to their tunes.

chennaiyorker
July 2nd, 2012, 08:24 PM
All i am asking is tell me the system how school could identify that qualities in one individual with out any bias (Class and Caste).
All I'm saying is the answer to that question is CERTAINLY not putting 100 students in a class room, and not letting them know each other, and asking them to look at a point in the middle of a circle on the wall, and drive them like slaves to read the same stuff repeatedly, and testing them every day from 5.30am to 10.00pm! Terrorists locked down at GITMO are prolly treated better!

To answer your question, the key to that is TEACHERS. More needs to be invested on teachers to train them to think out of the box, and not just follow text books word by word. The school managements also should start listening to good teachers/education experts, and not just listen to good followers of the unwritten "mission statement" of the financial stakeholders.

Kandeeban
July 2nd, 2012, 08:26 PM
How one could one mugup with out understanding. Even if it so, that is the rule of the game. IMO, if the system is fault, it would not have turned so many people life into prosperity. Can any body suggest / show best system in world?

How our system produced APJ Abdulkalam, Mayilsami, Valarmathi...

Let me pose the counter-question....
why did our system not produce Djikstra, Turing and Nobel Prize winners?

Kandeeban
July 2nd, 2012, 08:27 PM
I have studied in a few states and i do know for sure that even in relatively backward states like Orissa, the quality/syllabus of school edn is better than that in TN .. as well as the fact that there is more importance on understanding the subject and 0 importance on mugging up..

Its a credit to tamilians that ppl like Mylsami come up INSPITE of the edn system

chennaiyorker
July 2nd, 2012, 08:33 PM
How army is being trained?

So you want only gain with out any pain.

education and military are not the same. In military they are trained that way so that you lose critical (more of moral) thinking and just follow orders. What if at the point of time you are engaging the enemy, your thinking kicks up and your mind says killing may not be the best choice (morally and logically) to end the conflict? You die!

Where as in the society it is the other way around. you need to think and arrive at solutions for better tomorrow. IMO, we can't follow what army follows to do that!

No Pain, no gain is true! that doesn't mean all pain is good!

Kandeeban
July 2nd, 2012, 08:35 PM
+1 chennaiyorker

krishnaswamy
July 2nd, 2012, 08:56 PM
அரசு பள்ளிகளில் தயாராகுது அசத்தல் "மெனு' : சத்துணவு திட்டத்தை நவீனப்படுத்த பயிற்சி (http://www.dinamalar.com/News_Detail.asp?Id=498539)
சென்னை சைதாபேட்டை, மாந்தோப்பு அரசு பள்ளியில், உணவுத்துறை அமைச்சர் சம்பத் முன்னிலை யில், "செப் தாமு' மாணவர்களுக்கு "கம கம' மணத்துடன், சத்துணவு தயாரித்து கொடுத்துள்ளார். அதுமட்டுமின்றி, 16 மாவட்டத்திலுள்ள சத்துணவு அமைப்பாளர்கள், சமையலர்களுக்கு சுவையான ஆரோக்கியமான சத்துணவு சமைப்பது, சுகாதார முறைகளை கடைபிடிப்பது குறித்து பயிற்சி அளித்துள்ளார்.
"சத்துணவில், கொண்டைக்கடலை பிரியாணி, தக்காளி புலாவ், வெஜ்ட புள் பிரியாணி, தக்காளி, புதினா, கருவேப்பிலை, கொத்தமல்லி, கீரை சாதங்கள், பிஸ்மலாபாத், கடலை குழப்பு சாதம், சாம்பார் சாதம், பிரைடுரைஸ், காய்கறி கலந்து மசால் சாதம் ஆகிய 13 வகையான நாவுக்கு ருசியான சாப்பாடு தயாரிக்க முடியும்.
முட்டையை அப்படியே அவித்து கொடுக்காமல், பெப்பர் முட்டை, தக்காளி முட்டை, முட்டை தொக்கு, முட்டை குருமா, மசாலா முட்டை என ஐந்து வகை "சைடு டிஷ்' தயாரிக்க முடியும். வெள்ளிக்கிழமைகளில் உருளைக்கிழங்கு, சுண்டல், பாசிப்பயறு போன்றவற்றில் வறுவல் செய்து கொடுக்கலாம்.
இந்த "மெனு' அரசு வழங்கும் நிதிக்குள் தயாரித்து, தினமும் ஒரு "மெனு' வீதம் கொடுக்க முடியும். "
சுகாதாரத்துக்கும் "டிப்ஸ்'
சத்துணவு பணியாளர்களுக்கான பயிற்சியின் போது, சுகாதாரத்துக்கும் "டிப்ஸ்' கொடுக்கிறார், "செப்' தாமு.
* சத்துணவு அறையை சுத்தமாகவும், குப்பை இல்லாமலும் வைத்திருக்க வேண்டும். சமைக்க பயன்படுத்திய பாத்திரங்களை நன்கு கழுவி, தண்ணீர் உலரும் வகையில் கவிழ்த்து வைக்க வேண்டும். தினமும் பாத்திரங்களை கழுவி பயன்படுத்த வேண்டும். மாணவர்கள் சாப்பிடும் தட்டுகளை கழுவி, ஈரத்தை துணியால் துடைத்து வைக்க வேண்டும்.
* சமையல் பொருட்களை இருப்பு வைத்திருக்கும் ஸ்டோர் ரூம்களை சுத்தமாக வைத்திருக்க வேண்டும். பொருட்கள் எடுத்த பின், மூட்டைகளை நன்றாக கட்டி வைக்க வேண்டும்.
* முட்டையை தண்ணீரில் போட்டு கழுவும்போது, அவை தண்ணீரில் மிதந்தால், அழுகிய முட்டை என்பதை கண்டறிந்து அகற்ற வேண்டும். கத்தரி, வெண்டைக்காய்கள் தண்ணீரில் மிதந்தால் அழுகியவை என அகற்ற வேண்டும்.
*சமையல் பணியில் ஈடுபடுவோர் தினமும் குளித்து, தலைமுடி வெளியில் தெரியாத அளவுக்கு சுகாதாரமாக இருக்க வேண்டும். கைகளை அடிக்கடி கழுவி சுத்தமாக வைத்திருக்க வேண்டும்.
^^ Chef Damu demonstrated & gave training to 16 district mid day meals workers on preparing tasty, healthy food from the given groceries.
some of the menu include different variety rice, different Egg dishes.
He also adviced the workers to keep the environment clean.

My comments
On paper, by this face value, it looks promising step. but in reality, there is huge difference.
1. place were the food cooked is not having "adequate" facilities to keep it clean.
2. workers are also not having any training or selected by their experience. They are employed "politically" as it is evident from few posts on TN AA.most of the time, cook are unable to bear the workload.
3. There is huge corruption on "supply" chain gap of procured list and actual list. Many times, eggs, Provisions were sold in open market. for a salary of 5000rs stipend, huge number of people applied and ready to give bribe of 2-3 lakhs/post, shows how much is the "earning potential".
4. Atleast Govt can block some "holes" on these food distribution.

PS: With all these ground realities, still TN is successful in this scheme. Mine is not allegations, but facts as it comes in open media many times.

kongutamizhan
July 2nd, 2012, 09:10 PM
Wait Reliance is waiting for big opportunity to jump see how our system dances to their tunes.

jaypeeyaaru, jagatratchagan, aranganayagam, nehru maadiryaana aalunga engineering college aramikkum bodhu reliance senja thappa?

gvijayan
July 2nd, 2012, 09:27 PM
Bringing entrance exams back is going to be really a big question mark. These sick politicians will come as a hindrance and oppose such a move. And majority of the parents who care only to the total marks will also oppose any move of bringing back the entrance examinations.

All the shameful media (Dhinathanthi, Dinamalar, Dinakaran etc) will cover the crappy agitations from politicians and parents, failing to do justice to their actual role of making parents realize the importance of entrance examinations.

As long as we have cheap politicians, crap media - nothing is going to go in the positive direction.

Education System, Traffic and civic sense everything is going in a very dangerous direction in the state.

venkyinblr
July 3rd, 2012, 10:24 AM
UPSC should conduct exam in Tamil: Karunanidhi to Manmohan





http://www.ndtv.com/article/south/upsc-should-conduct-exam-in-tamil-karunanidhi-to-manmohan-238646 (http://%3Cbr%20/%3E%0A%3Cbr%20/%3E%0Ahttp://www.ndtv.com/article/south/upsc-should-conduct-exam-in-tamil-karunanidhi-to-manmohan-238646)


^^ Good move hope its not party politics :)

saysenthil
July 3rd, 2012, 10:27 AM
Makkalaae...... indhaa vaaraaa NEEYAA NAAANAAA yaaraavadhu paathingaalaaa?

Was very good show highlighting the "Education system in Namakkal district!!"

And I will recommend you to have a look. For those who dont know the link just click

below....

Neeya Naana 01-07-12-Vijay TV show (http://www.rajtamil.com/2012/07/neeya-naana-01-07-12-vijay-tv-show/)

venkyinblr
July 3rd, 2012, 10:36 AM
This topic "Namakal School" was there in my head since long time (may be the time I started my college around 1999) .Its just matter of time that the cat is out of the bag.If they don't want critics they should better equip the schools with better infrastructure(including teaching,communication,curricular activities) .They should try not to be a breed-ground for mark scorers .I personally know how 'HOT' is this business around the zone(these vikas ,skv,srv's) .Schools from Chennai ,Kovai,Madurai and Trichy are always better.People and parents should think beyond the bloody marks...:bash::bash:

Perhaps the Entrance system can help

kongutamizhan
July 3rd, 2012, 02:44 PM
Schools from Chennai ,Kovai,Madurai and Trichy are always better.People and parents should think beyond the bloody marks...:bash::bash:

Perhaps the Entrance system can help

In what way are they better? Eloborate please. Don't they not teach for marks? Did they produce Nobel laureates? How many schools across the state have the school infrastructure? sunnambu adikka kooda donation ethirparthu irukkura schools neenga sonna cities la evvalavu irukkunu theriyuma?

The fact is that in a mark based system like ours they are all behind namakkal now.

I agree with you on entrance part.

murlee
July 3rd, 2012, 02:51 PM
In what way are they better? Eloborate please. Don't they not teach for marks?

Of course they teach for marks.. But, there is difference in the intensity!

Its like eating.. Everybody eats! But, not everyone is called a glutton!!

jaish
July 3rd, 2012, 04:00 PM
Let me pose the counter-question....
why did our system not produce Djikstra, Turing and Nobel Prize winners?

Let me pose a question to you what is the research facility that is available here? but still there are few scientiest Born here and educated to some extent here got noble prize when they got right kind of opportunity.

I dont want belittle any other state board. You are entiltled to have your own perception. Always there is room for growth which we will always have.

jaish
July 3rd, 2012, 04:15 PM
No Pain, no gain is true! that doesn't mean all pain is good!

You and me can't decide whether that pain is wothy or not. Further this to this if those people have been thought how to stay at the pinnacle even after reaching there would be great. This is very difficult even Fedex(Tennis) could not do that. We are not having a luxury of enjoying like arabs we need to play to our strengths to shine i.e hard work

gvijayan
July 3rd, 2012, 04:23 PM
This topic "Namakal School" was there in my head since long time (may be the time I started my college around 1999) .Its just matter of time that the cat is out of the bag.If they don't want critics they should better equip the schools with better infrastructure(including teaching,communication,curricular activities) .They should try not to be a breed-ground for mark scorers .I personally know how 'HOT' is this business around the zone(these vikas ,skv,srv's) .Schools from Chennai ,Kovai,Madurai and Trichy are always better.People and parents should think beyond the bloody marks...:bash::bash:

Perhaps the Entrance system can help

Its the education system that should change. Then automatically such schools will start feeling the pressure.

The education system will never be changed, due to politics.

It was these bloody politicians who removed the entrance examinations. I don't remember any demand from the public to scrap this. But when it was removed, majority felt happy. Politicians are 24x7 busy in finding ways to loot money.

They will never think about change of education system and all.

And For everyone's information - SRV's and Vikas' were still the Top Rank holders for several years, even when TNPCEE was in effect. They did not suddenly become Top schools (in terms of marks) only after the entrance exams were scrapped out.

lordvijay
July 3rd, 2012, 04:30 PM
If the entrance exams are brought back, another debate will start that rural students will not have access to the coaching centres to prepare that urban students have. But we cannot do without them.
The state board should also tweak it's method of testing, the question papers should be prepared such that it does not encourage rote learning, but allow the student to apply what he/she learnt. The state board should take a leaf out of CBSE here, their paper covers all aspects, basic theory, and applications. In CBSE if you mug up you can pass but won't be able to score high marks.
We can also try having a mix of boards as well as entrance exams, which can help students to better their chances and not be disappointed by one bad day. Colleges can choose students based on entrance or board marks.

jaish
July 3rd, 2012, 06:17 PM
I am not understanding one point here where is the so called intelligents who are going to be produced once we change the system ? what are they doing now? brooding egg. Why they could not clear pre medical exam and other central government exam.

Ada theriyada The***** ku kudam konal.


All i am saying, People just want to take advantage of the system by creating from absolute measuring terms to immeasurable way .

jaish
July 3rd, 2012, 06:22 PM
jaypeeyaaru, jagatratchagan, aranganayagam, nehru maadiryaana aalunga engineering college aramikkum bodhu reliance senja thappa?

Yes they are bad. All this people will do some corruption with existing system in TN level. But the Rel**** create their own corrupt system only to benefit them in Pan India level. these people are local dada encounter is enough for them. But they are International don that very highly co ordinated operation to remove them.

Have you not heard of their slogan Mere pappa ka sapna sab ka mall apna.

krishnaswamy
July 3rd, 2012, 06:57 PM
I am understanding one point here where is the so called intelligents who are going to be produced once we change the system ? what are they doing now? brooding egg. Why they could not clear pre medical exam and other central government exam.

We are not talking about few individuals who came out successfully on research field, irrespective of any system they are in. We also have some good people, in each and every top position of India's research department.
but one big problem is their "passion" to continue. few of my friends who worked at ISRO, IGCAR moved to Software field for "better money, u.s opportunities".

Here, We are talking about how to increase that % of people on problem solving and on analytical side. while mug up students also strive to get 60-70% BE, get settles in good job and having life out of it..
But over the time, this practice lead to considerable drop in quality of people coming out. I went for a campus interview 3-4 years back in a reputed Engg College. those who cleared "Aptitude test" is no way related to their "computer subject marks" and most others failed on writing simple algorithm on problem solving. Again it is not 100%, but 70% people got failed. that is why in a written test for 300 people only 35 people cleared the Apti. We lowered the "eligibility" marks to get those 35 people else it was just 15.

It is important that not only "mug up", but understand the concepts, apply the formula and derive the result should be important.
I strongly agree, Language should not be excuse in implementing this kind of educational system.

chennaiyorker
July 3rd, 2012, 07:33 PM
I am not understanding one point here where is the so called intelligents who are going to be produced once we change the system ?

what are they doing now? brooding egg. Why they could not clear pre medical exam and other central government exam.


My friend... you have the answer in your question itself. Where are the intellectuals now? - Ans: they are not here as "they are going to be produced" once we change the system, and not produced yet because of the current system. who ever is clearing those exams (as few as they are) are mostly from non rote schools. If this number has to increase, then we need to move away from rote system.

jaish
July 3rd, 2012, 07:51 PM
Anyway my simple mind refuses to accept such system can ever be produced. If any such thing happens i would be very clad.

Who would not be happy to live with million scientist and leaders? All i am worried, pillaiar Pudika poi pudham killamba kudathu. New system should not create lopsided soceity should give equal oppurtunity to all.

kongutamizhan
July 3rd, 2012, 08:43 PM
I am not understanding one point here where is the so called intelligents who are going to be produced once we change the system ? what are they doing now? brooding egg. Why they could not clear pre medical exam and other central government exam.

Cost of status-quo :)

krishnaswamy
July 3rd, 2012, 08:54 PM
All i am worried, pillaiar Pudika poi pudham killamba kudathu. New system should not create lopsided soceity should give equal oppurtunity to all.
^^..why do you think so?
instead of vomiting the concepts, applying the concepts and get the answers is much more simpler right?

venkyinblr
July 4th, 2012, 10:50 AM
In what way are they better? Eloborate please. Don't they not teach for marks? Did they produce Nobel laureates? How many schools across the state have the school infrastructure? sunnambu adikka kooda donation ethirparthu irukkura schools neenga sonna cities la evvalavu irukkunu theriyuma?

The fact is that in a mark based system like ours they are all behind namakkal now.

I agree with you on entrance part.

The other schools what I had in mind for comparision teach for marks,that's obvious.But they dont teach only for marks.They are trying to nurture the kids in other part of school-development activities(be it sports,or knowledge development or house activities).My point is the Namakal zone strive really really hard only for marks? why don't they crack the shell and teach them other essential things too which will be necessary for the kids for their life? or at-least they try?I dont know if something is not fishy there wont be complaints

Also cities which I have said If you take a cursory look at them honestly, they dont give you a Hint of Mark-Based-Squeezing-Schools.And they are better in teaching 360 degrees for a student's need.(Again this is just comparison,I cant quote that they are the best in all the aspects)...

Nobel Laurels :) , you kidding me right?

India is at the bottom of the list when it comes to nobel price we are not in to that kind of academics (reaon1- v r not in Stuttgart,reason2-blame it on Macaulay) you knew that ?!?! and we didnt produce bunch of Nobel laureates anywhere in the country from a specific place ..never in the history..(if u take south india ,thr r only 3 noble laurels all hailing from the Delta District of TN, that doesnt mean Tanjore/Trichy has got best schools, Agree Bro ?)...

jaish
July 4th, 2012, 03:57 PM
^^..why do you think so?
instead of vomiting the concepts, applying the concepts and get the answers is much more simpler right?

How would you evaluate application of concepts?

chennaiyorker
July 4th, 2012, 05:57 PM
You want to know what real learning, teaching, education is all about?....watch this video. (not sure if it has been shared before) It's long but, valuable IMO. He died 8 months after this lecture.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ji5_MqicxSo

jaish
July 4th, 2012, 06:05 PM
Today only world found god particle. We found god itself long time back.

jaish
July 4th, 2012, 06:07 PM
Do you really want me to watch after your fore warning? j/k. Surely i will watch.

kannan infratech
July 4th, 2012, 07:25 PM
Indha vaara discussion romba soodu pidikkudhu.

Koodiya viraivil varugiren.

kannan infratech
July 4th, 2012, 07:27 PM
Makkalaae...... indhaa vaaraaa NEEYAA NAAANAAA yaaraavadhu paathingaalaaa?

Was very good show highlighting the "Education system in Namakkal district!!"

And I will recommend you to have a look. For those who dont know the link just click

below....

Neeya Naana 01-07-12-Vijay TV show (http://www.rajtamil.com/2012/07/neeya-naana-01-07-12-vijay-tv-show/)

Pl start from post no 1019.

krishnaswamy
July 4th, 2012, 07:32 PM
How would you evaluate application of concepts?
very easy. some sample
If a guy explains "conduction, convection, radiation" with a day-day items, he sees, that is a good example.
if a person understands what is "Probability" and able to explain with some good samples that is fine. if they can just calculate the "total prices" of the grocery within 2 mins, that should be suffice.(applicable of various short cut addition, multiplications etc..)
If a student realises "Magadh" is nothing but orissa, it is further ease.
"kyber bolan" kanavaigal padikkame where it is now, how people have migrated through those passes..
English-le eppo, enthe word use pannanumnu therincha pothum.
molecular formula purinchuthuna, chemical equations easy.
mug up pannama, porul unarnthu padithal, neriyan gnabagam irukkum. easy co-relate pannikka mudiyum.
"Persistence" context purinchuthuna, hibernate, JPA easy ;)
"Pointers" purinchuthuna, Data structure easy.
"different" sorting algorithms purinchuthuna, enthe data structure enge use pannanum-ngaru easy agum.
I can go on listing this.

one big problem is "quality of teaching, teachers". many times, we found wanting in this area. particularly english, science, economics and maths.
Teacher should go and taught the lesson. He should not read from the books.
In my school days, the "crux" of the lesson was explained in the board or through oratory, and then couple of students read the books. The teacher then co-relates what he told earlier with the words in the book.

PS: because of software, neriya perukku, spellings confuse aanathu than micham.(because of u.s english and u.k english)
color, center...goes on

kannan infratech
July 4th, 2012, 07:40 PM
WIPRO identified the problem and has started a school for technical teachers Training.

jaish
July 4th, 2012, 07:43 PM
Final result will be left to teacher who listens to it. I am worried is that it should not turn out how chidambaram aleged to have won the election. Atleast in present examination system some transparency is available.

chennaiyorker
July 4th, 2012, 07:52 PM
Today only world found god particle. We found god itself long time back.
Here is an interesting, funny, smart interview (video is just about 6 mins long) by the comedic, satirical talk show host Steven Colbert...Science vs. God. The ending of the interview is a stroke of genius! :lol:
http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/415707/june-21-2012/lawrence-krauss

Im more of a man of science than a man of belief...but he just stumped science!! :lol:

Anniyan
July 4th, 2012, 11:14 PM
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chennaiyorker
July 5th, 2012, 05:26 AM
Rural students dominate Tamil Nadu Agricultural University rank list.

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-07-03/coimbatore/32523197_1_rural-students-rank-list-btech

Gayathri has scored 1,177 marks in Plus Two. She is a student of DAV School in Chennai though her family hails from elsewhere. She plans to write the civil service exams and that might tip her choice in favour of choosing BSc Agriculture over a career in medicine.

C Deepika with a cut off of 197.75 scored third rank. Hailing from Sivagiri in Erode district, Deepika also plans to study BSc Agriculture as she wants to write the civil services exams. She said her teachers were the inspiration for her to study well. "My hobbies include reading books. I read whatever I can lay my hands on," she told TOI. She is a student of SSV Matriculation Higher Secondary School at Sivagiri.

Refreshing to read about the kids who think out of the box and not just follow the masses. News like these need more visibility.

chennaiyorker
July 5th, 2012, 05:32 AM
Tamil Nadu CM Jayalalithaa hikes engineering seats' sports quota

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/tn-jaya-hikes-engineering-seats-sports-quota/269295-62-128.html

chennaiyorker
July 5th, 2012, 05:37 AM
^^
wait a min...is this a form of reservation??

logan_square_guy
July 5th, 2012, 06:42 PM
Chennaiyorker, thanks for sharing this. Really inspirational. Great display of courage. So charismatic and incredible grace

You want to know what real learning, teaching, education is all about?....watch this video. (not sure if it has been shared before) It's long but, valuable IMO. He died 8 months after this lecture.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ji5_MqicxSo

krishnaswamy
July 5th, 2012, 07:07 PM
^^
wait a min...is this a form of reservation??
by the "english" word, yes..but on the context you need to look at.
there is a vast difference between some one getting into a seat based on "caste/gender/disability" and someone getting into a seat because of his "performance".
talent appreciation?
is Dhoni got into IAF because of "reservation" or "talent encouragement"?

chennaiyorker
July 5th, 2012, 08:35 PM
by the "english" word, yes..but on the context you need to look at.

Yes, looking at "context" is right. But, that context will depend on the plane you are seeing things from. We need to look beyond context.


there is a vast difference between some one getting into a seat based on "caste/gender/disability" and someone getting into a seat because of his "performance".
talent appreciation?

If you are making a case for "talent appreciation" (you can say it is based on their performance, but that performance is not related in any way to what they are allotted seats for) , then why not make a case for "social equality appreciation"? The government sees that sports and the athletes (who are disadvantaged to continue with sports and yet compete in education on a level that is skewed against them, as the students they are competing with students who spend 15 hrs a day studying) need to be encouraged, and they allot a certain number of seats for students who excel in sports. The same way the government sees the socio-economically backward people need encouragement and the allot a certain percentage of seats in colleges. The context may be different, but the principle/philosophy isn't. So, You can use any word - allotment, allocation, reservation, accommodation, concession, protection - they are all different variants/contexts of the same principle - to create opportunities for the disadvantaged that they may not get in the current existing system, so that the country/state grows in more uniform way in all desired fields/levels of society.

The above just answers WHY we need it.

Then the question is HOW?

The way how this is being done is absolutely inefficient! We have an agreement on that. After 65 years, it needs to be looked at and revamped. India has moved forward. Hence, the percentages need to be looked at, the criteria need to be looked at...well, with the politicians using this to play their cards, I'm not hopeful it can be done.

However, Just because the answer to HOW is wrong, we should not overlook the answer to WHY. As a society we tend to do that a lot. The schools we have discussed before on this forum tend to teach in ways that only takes into mind HOW to get marks... forgetting WHY. Parents and teachers teach the kids HOW to get into professional school, and not WHY. (You may say the answer to why is to get a good paying job and to buy a house and a good car etc etc...but, is that all? you can ask a kid why they chose engineering, and the above answer is all most of them can come up with. There are not many who will say I saw Chandrayaan placing the Indian flag on moon, which inspired me to work for ISRO, and that is I joined this course, or I was so fascinated by the technology being used in the construction that I wanted to be part of it and excel)

We tend to look mostly at HOW to arrive at our decisions. WHY should not be forgotten and it has to complement HOW and viceversa.

krishnaswamy
July 5th, 2012, 09:22 PM
^^ good points Chennai yorker.
everybody understand "Why" and "How" on reservation on "caste/gender/". am not debating on that.
but
1. "How long" is the question to be answered for "caste/gender" based reservation. right?
2. what was the result of "How" it was achieved to be measured right?
we are practicing for 65 years. but the irony is instead of removing more "caste", these politicians are trying to add more caste due to vote bank politics.
Also in the "Why" section, "Economic" should be in the 1st place irrespective of "Caste".
thats it.

whereas in the "sports quota/economy", since it is a continuous one, we need to do that.
Anyway, i request, let us not discuss again on "reservation" on "caste". I have just replied to your post thats it.

coming back to your points on Education system,
I am having strong opinion 1 can come up in any discipline and can earn money in many good ways. I have seen +2 passed guy at Tanjore makes more money than M.Sc/B.E guys who works in a call center in chennai.
Catering master earns more money than a "honest" govt oppice clerk.
musicians makes more money than a B.E guy who works for 8000 rs monthly salary in Chennai.
In the recent times, due to flooding of Engg Colleges, lot of people gets into B.E, but not doing that much well, whereas Commerce graduates, Science graduates are doing well.

chennaiyorker
July 5th, 2012, 09:36 PM
^^ good points Chennai yorker.
everybody understand "Why" and "How" on reservation on "caste/gender/". am not debating on that.
but
1. "How long" is the question to be answered for "caste/gender" based reservation. right?
2. what was the result of "How" it was achieved to be measured right?

I am not saying people don't understand "why?" They perfectly do! But, my point was the answer to "why" is overlooked for decision making - when the debate goes to "Reservations/concessions don't work as intended, hence we need to scrap it" Here we are making a decision based on the answer to "how it is being done?" Instead, we need to re-ask ourselves "how" to make it efficient?

"Economic" should be in the 1st place irrespective of "Caste".
thats it.

I strongly agree. Economic and family education background should be used instead of caste.

chennaiyorker
July 5th, 2012, 09:41 PM
Anyway, i request, let us not discuss again on "reservation" on "caste". I have just replied to your post thats it.

+1

venkyinblr
July 6th, 2012, 09:53 AM
CHENNAI: Fancy being a critter doctor? The growing need for qualified veterinarians has led to a big rise in demand for courses offered by the Tamil Nadu Veterinary and Animal Sciences University (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/Animal-Sciences-University) (Tanuvas).

As many as 7,838 candidates are vying for 260 seats on offer for the bachelor of veterinary science and animal husbandry (BVSc&AH) course offered by Tanuvas, while 592 students are competing for 40 seats available in the varsity's the bachelor of fisheries science (BFSc) course. The university has received applications from 404 students for its 20 seats in BTech (Food Processing Technology) and 185 applications for 20 seats in the BTech ( Poultry Production Technology (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/Poultry-Production-Technology)) course.

The university received a total of 10,821 applications, compared to 5,700 in 2011. The numbers have been increasing since 2008.

The veterinary and fisheries industry are the only two industries that are growing by around 8% to 10%, the same pace as the software industry, Tanuvas vice-chancellor R Prabakaran said. "There is a high demand for these courses as students have realised that they can all get government jobs after completing the course," he said. "There is a lot of scope in the private sector too."

There is an annual requirement of 3,700 veterinarians, but only 1,800 students pass out of the 42 veterinary institutes in the country, so there is a severe shortage of manpower. "Many more students are applying for these courses than even four years ago," Prabakaran said. "The number of applications increased from 800 in 2008 to 1,700 in 2009, 3,625 in 2010 and 5,700 in 2011."

Despite the higher demand this year, there has been only a marginal increase in the cutoff marks as fewer students scored centums this year. The cutoff for the open category for the popular BVSc&AH course went up from 194.25 in 2011 to 195 this year, while for backward classes the cut off increased from 192.25 to 193.5 this year. For SC candidates the cut off went up from 185 in 2011 to 188 this year.

With the launch of two new colleges in Thanjavur and Tirunelveli this year, the Tamil Nadu Veterinary and Animal Sciences University has added 34 seats to its popular Bachelor of Veterinary Science and Animal Husbandry programme. The number of seats has gone up from 226 to 260 for the 2012-13 academic year.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chennai/Demand-for-veterinary-course-seats-sees-spike/articleshow/14701476.cms

kannan infratech
July 6th, 2012, 11:15 AM
Getting a job is easier in Banks (as Field officer) if one has an Agri / Veterinary degree. Many prefer to take up the course precisely for this reason only and not for the love for Agri / animals.

Similarly in an Indian type of Set up, Professional Sportsmen / women can not survive for long as they are not supported by either Govt / Society. They need a decent job to survive. So they need a good degree to get a decent job which will feed them & their families even after their sport activity is diminished.

Creamy Layer Concept is the best but will not be allowed by the politicos.

venkyinblr
July 6th, 2012, 12:23 PM
I have heard that Agri Students shine better in the Civil services exam of India than the professional course guy...though I dont have correct statistics in Hand.

kannan infratech
July 7th, 2012, 01:24 PM
Cross Posted from Coimbatore Forum:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=90653760&postcount=27

jaish
July 7th, 2012, 03:43 PM
I have heard that Agri Students shine better in the Civil services exam of India than the professional course guy...though I dont have correct statistics in Hand.

Due to increasing trend of nuclear family so many families are having pets and ready to spend more on pets.

sanjaysan
July 7th, 2012, 03:51 PM
Cross Posted from Coimbatore Forum:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=90653760&postcount=27

WOW :eek2:.... :cheers: .... Recently I read some article stating that some fresher from the IITs received 60lakh rupee job from twitter.. But this is awesome... :nuts: .. Congrats to him! ..

krishnaswamy
July 10th, 2012, 12:54 AM
:applause: :applause:
1.In TN, all the application forms to be online for school exams, (8th,10th, +2).
2. revaluation forms too.
http://epaper.dinamalar.com/PUBLICATIONS/DM/DINAMALAR/2012/07/10/Article//002/10_07_2012_002_011.jpg

murlee
July 10th, 2012, 09:04 AM
:cheers:

http://www.thehindu.com/multimedia/dynamic/01137/09THTHENUR_1137568f.jpg

Village children take the Skype route to education


Bridging the gap between rural and urban students is an initiative that connects children in interior villages with volunteers, who can make learning interesting.

“How are you? I am fine,” ten-year-old Rajesh enunciates clearly.

Pointing to the computer screen in front of him, he says, “That’s what I say when Miss talks to me.” For Rajesh and friends from a government school in a village near Perambalur, the fundamentals of English, Science and Mathematics are taught by teachers as far away as Greece, China and United States and closer home from Chennai and Bangalore – all with the help of the Internet, a webcam and Skype.

Bridging the gap between rural and urban students is an initiative that connects children in interior villages with volunteers, who can make learning interesting. Students from government schools in Jeeyapuram in Tiruchi, Thenur and Vidyashram in Perambalur and Ambasundaram in Tirunelveli experience teaching that is far from the conventional methods they are used to. “Students drop in for an hour after school every day. Teachers use YouTube videos and discussion board to work out sums, screenshots of web pages and models to explain concepts better,” says Chinnappan, a school teacher and coordinator of the Jeeyapuram centre that has entered its third year.

The initiative is undertaken by a non-profit organisation – eVidyaloka – that partners with local NGOs and community workers to implement the programme. Outside the State, the programme is under way in Juvvalapelam near Guntur, Andhra Pradesh and Tikratoli, Jharkhand. Students between Class VI and VIII are the target group as there are many dropouts in village schools after Class VIII, says Satish Viswanathan, co-founder eVidyaloka.

“The initiative hopes to inspire these children to pursue higher education,” he notes. The Skype classes are designed to supplement the school syllabus.

As technology is the mainstay of the initiative, unscheduled power cuts, slow internet speed and absence of broadband in villages have interrupted regular classes.

The latest centre added to the list where classes were conducted through the audio format for a year has started Skype classes with 3G dongle now.

Volunteer teachers

Though hampered by challenges, the two-year-old initiative is driven by the passion of volunteer teachers, feel Bangalore-based co-founders Sathish and Venkatramanan Sriraman.

With the initiative expanding to other States, volunteers conversant with technical terms in Telugu, Tamil, Hindi and other regional languages are in demand.

Source (http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/tamil-nadu/article3617427.ece?homepage=true)

vivasayee
July 11th, 2012, 04:09 AM
Private schools cautioned against book load given to children

http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/5803/bookload.jpg

Source: Dinamalar

krishnaswamy
July 11th, 2012, 06:09 AM
:applause::applause:
Nithya, once a child labourer, now student of medicine (http://newindianexpress.com/states/tamil_nadu/article563933.ece)
mprinted in R Nithya’s memories are her days as a child labourer at a powerloom in Bhavani in Erode District. Forced to work eight hours a day after her family fell into a debt trap and consequently into poverty when she was in Class IV, she lived on a rare two meals a day and a single pair of clothes, as she toiled with her tiny hands to keep the family afloat. But she emerged a winner from these challenges.

On Tuesday, in what could be the highest point in her life till now, Nithya secured an MBBS seat in a government college, fulfilling a dream of hers. In her second appearance for medical college counselling, Nithya got admission to the Tiruvarur Government Medical College. The moment was so emotional, her parents who accompanied her were moved to tears and hugged their child in joy.

murlee
July 11th, 2012, 08:02 AM
Anna varsity’s draft curriculum ready


Students entering the portals of an engineering college under Anna University this September will be the first to study certain advanced subjects of technology that the university plans to introduce as part of its revised curriculum for 2012- 2016. The Board of Studies consisting of 10 experts from every department submitted a draft comprising the recommended changes nearly a fortnight ago. The draft will be approved by a standing committee in the next few days, and final syllabus is expected to come out in August first week.

However, the changes are most likely to be part of the sixth semester, as the curriculum in the initial semesters will mostly remain the same to ensure the thrust will be on basic subjects, said officials.

Electives such as mobile technologies, study of smart phone applications and gadgets and Cloud sharing and computing might also be part of the new curriculum. According to senior professors, production engineering and mechanical branches might undergo the most changes, as subjects of automated manufacturing and design technologies for the core braches of engineering are top on the list. While electives in medical electronics and nanotechnology are also being considered, certain subjects being offered as electives now are likely to be made mandatory.

“These are necessary keeping futuristic technology in mind. There are interdisciplinary subjects planned. For instance, it has become important for civil engineers to study sensors and networks to create better structures.

The Anna University curriculum is spread over four years with eight semesters. The initial two semesters are spent on basic subjects of Physics, Chemistry, mathematics, fundamentals of computing, programming, and the fundamentals of core engineering. Students study six theory subjects and three practical subjects a semester, except in the eight semester. In all, there are 45 theory subjects, besides the project.

Students can choose six elective subjects from a range of 20 offered to them.

The University had initially appointed a nine-member committee including 2 senior persons from the industry and 3 senior professors from IIT- Madras to design the new curriculum.

“The curriculum that consists of what the students need to study every semester has already been designed. We have also asked for the omission of certain subjects with theories that have become obsolete now,” said a professor.

Interestingly, a section of professors have also asked the panel to initiate the ‘open book’ system of examinations, already prevalent in reputed institutes such as the IITs, particularly for subjects that involve problem solving as part of the new curriculum. “ It is high time we introduced the system because students are increasingly depending on solved illustrations and regular set of problems. This will be a better way of testing how well they apply the concepts,” said a senior professor.

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Mukkesh
July 11th, 2012, 04:21 PM
[QUOTE=krishnaswamy;93167697]:applause::applause:


Great

murlee
July 12th, 2012, 08:26 AM
Meet the country's youngest apps programmers (http://www.ndtv.com/article/cities/meet-the-country-s-youngest-apps-programmers-242426)

shiv.chennai
July 12th, 2012, 09:23 AM
:applause::applause:
Nithya, once a child labourer, now student of medicine (http://newindianexpress.com/states/tamil_nadu/article563933.ece)
mprinted in R Nithya’s memories are her days as a child labourer at a powerloom in Bhavani in Erode District. Forced to work eight hours a day after her family fell into a debt trap and consequently into poverty when she was in Class IV, she lived on a rare two meals a day and a single pair of clothes, as she toiled with her tiny hands to keep the family afloat. But she emerged a winner from these challenges.

On Tuesday, in what could be the highest point in her life till now, Nithya secured an MBBS seat in a government college, fulfilling a dream of hers. In her second appearance for medical college counselling, Nithya got admission to the Tiruvarur Government Medical College. The moment was so emotional, her parents who accompanied her were moved to tears and hugged their child in joy.

wow truly inspirational!!! :applause::applause:

vivasayee
July 16th, 2012, 01:32 PM
PMK Leader G.K. Mani says Govt should collect college fees and give it to the colleges

News source: Dinakaran

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murlee
July 17th, 2012, 08:21 AM
TN to bring more schools under ICT-aided medium of instruction


With a view to encouraging ICT-aided mode of instruction in state government schools, the Tamil Nadu Chief Minister, Ms J. Jayalalithaa, has directed expanding an existing scheme to nearly 2,000 more schools, allocating an initial sum of over Rs 26 crore towards it.

The expanded scheme would cover 1,999 schools across the state and it would be implemented over five years at an estimated cost of Rs 127.94 crore, an official release said.

Ms Jayalalithaa has allocated Rs 26.65 crore as first instalment for the scheme, it said, adding that 2,341 schools had already been covered under the ICT-aided medium of instruction.

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/news/states/article3648576.ece

karthikarthik
July 18th, 2012, 06:40 AM
http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2012/07/new-rfid-device-could-jam-your-cell-phone-while-your-car-is-moving/

Drive on any road or highway, and you’ll come upon the same irritation. A car is going slowly in the left lane, or swerving in the right, or turning without using a signal. When you finally pass, you probably aren’t the least bit surprised to see what’s going on: The driver is distracted by a cell phone.

The use of mobile phones while driving isn’t just an irritation—it’s an increasingly dangerous trend. A survey by the Department of Transportation found that 18 percent of all distraction-related fatal car crashes in the United States involved a phone, and a University of Illinois study showed that talking on a phone consistently reduced drivers’ response times, whether they used a hands-free device or not. As smartphones proliferate, things are only getting worse: A recent survey of smartphone owners indicated that nearly 20 percent browse the web while driving, and data indicate that texting while driving may be even more dangerous than calling.

All of this has led dozens of counties and a majority of U.S. states to ban either calling or texting while driving. Obviously, though, inconsistently enforced laws aren’t enough to deter drivers from getting their communications fix. So a team of engineers at the Anna University of Technology in Chennai, India, has decided to use technology to force drivers to keep their eyes on the road.

Their prototype system, as described in an article published yesterday in the International Journal of Enterprise Network Management, uses radio-frequency identification (RFID) technology to automatically detect whether a car is in motion and if the driver is attempting to use a mobile phone. The system then triggers a low-range mobile jammer to prevent only the driver’s phone from operating, while allowing passengers to continue calling and texting freely.

Previously, technologies have been leveraged to prevent drivers from using cell phones in more indirect ways. The SafeTexting app for Android phones prevents the sending and receiving of text messages while a car is in motion—but it also prevents passengers from using their phones. A system presented last year at the International Conference on Mobile Computing and Networking uses a car’s speakers to produce a series of beeps, which are then detected by a phone only if it is in use and in the driver’s seat, thereby reminding the driver to hang up.

This new system goes one step further, actively blocking the transmission of data from a driver’s phone so that he or she has no choice but to stop trying to use it. Using RFID, the same technology present in electronic toll collection systems such as E-ZPass, the device automatically detects signals coming from the driver’s phone while the vehicle is in motion and uses a jammer to prevent transmission.

The engineers designed the system with the notoriously accident-prone Indian trucking industry in mind, envisioning truck owners installing it in hopes of preventing employee drivers from using phones while on the road. They also note, though, that it could be linked with local law enforcement efforts to prevent drivers from using phones. When the device detects a driver using a phone, it could automatically transmit data stored in a vehicle’s license plate RFID tag to a police reader, so the driver could be pulled over and given a ticket. Future state or national laws could, for example, force car manufacturers to include the device in all new cars as a mandatory safety feature, as occurred with seat belts and air bags.

All of this is sure to have road-safety advocates excited—and privacy advocates understandably concerned. When our devices are distracting us to the point of lethal accidents, should the police be able to electronically detect when we’re on the phone and jam our communications? It’s difficult to decide if privacy ought to be sacrificed for safety, but one thing is for sure: After years of technological advancements that have connected, entertained and eventually distracted us, future technologies to force our attention back on the road are sure to come.

krishnaswamy
July 18th, 2012, 09:14 PM
http://img.dinamalar.com/data/gallery/gallerye_003037638_509983.jpg (http://www.dinamalar.com/News_detail.asp?Id=509983)

முந்தைய தி.மு.க., ஆட்சிக் காலத்தில், தொழிற்துறை ஒதுக்கீட்டின் கீழ், "லெட்டர் பேடு' கம்பெனிகள் கை நீட்டிய மாணவர்களுக்கு, "சீட்' வழங்கப்பட்டது, அரசின் விசாரணையில் கண்டுபிடிக்கப் பட்டது. விதிமுறைகளை மீறி, 400 மாணவர் வரை, அண்ணா பல்கலை கல்லூரிகளில் சேர்க்கப்பட்டனர் என்ற, "திடுக்' தகவலும் வெளியாகியுள்ளது.
அண்ணா பல்கலையின் கீழ், கிண்டி பொறியியல் கல்லூரி, அழகப்பா தொழில்நுட்பக்கல்லூரி, கட்டடக் கலைதொழில்நுட்பக் கல்லூரி மற்றும் குரோம்பேட்டையில் எம்.ஐ.டி., கல்லூரி என, நான்கு கல்லூரிகள் இயங்கி வருகின்றன. இந்தகல்லூரிகளில், 2,000 இடங்கள் உள்ளன.
தொழில் துறை ஒதுக்கீடு:இந்த கல்லூரிகளில், விளையாட்டு வீரர்கள், மாற்றுத்திறனாளிகள், தொழிற்கல்வி பிரிவினர், முன்னாள் ராணுவத்தினர், சுதந்திரப் போராட்ட தியாகிகளின் வாரிசுகள் மற்றும் பொது சேர்க்கை ஆகிய பல்வேறு பிரிவுகளின் கீழ், கலந்தாய்வு சேர்க்கை நடைபெறுகின்றன. இந்தப் பட்டியலில் சேராத ஒரு பிரிவு, தொழில் துறை ஒதுக்கீடு.தொழில் துறையும், அண்ணா பல்கலையும் இணைந்து செயல்பட வேண்டியதன் அவசியத்தை கருத்தில் கொண்டு, பெரிய தொழில் நிறுவனங்கள், பெரிய தொகையை அண்ணா பல்கலையில் முன்கூட்டியே செலுத்தி, அதன் மூலம், திறமையான மாணவர்களை அண்ணா பல்கலையில் படிக்க வைத்து,
பின்னாளில் அவர்களை தங்கள் நிறுவனத்தில் வேலையில் அமர்த்த, வழி வகை செய்யப்பட்டுள்ளன. இதற்காக, ஒவ்வொரு பாடப் பிரிவுகளில் உள்ள மொத்த இடங்களில் (கவுன்சிலிங் இடங்கள்), 4 சதவீதம், இத்துறையினருக்காக ஒதுக்கப்பட்டுள்ளது. இந்த பிரிவின் கீழ், எத்தனை மாணவ, மாணவியர் சேர்க்கப்படுகின்றனர் என்ற விவரத்தை, பல்கலை நிர்வாகம்வெளியிடுவதில்லை.
அமைச்சர் குற்றச்சாட்டு:இதை பயன்படுத்தி, முந்தைய தி.மு.க., ஆட்சிக் காலத்தில், அதிகமான மாணவ, மாணவியர், அண்ணா பல்கலை கல்லூரிகளில் சேர்க்கப்பட்ட விஷயம், அ.தி.மு.க., ஆட்சிக்கு வந்ததும் வெளிச்சத்துக்கு வந்தது. சட்டசபை கூட்டத்தொடரில் பேசிய, உயர்கல்வி அமைச்சர் பழனியப்பன், ""தி.மு.க., ஆட்சியில், 300 மாணவ, மாணவியர், முறைகேடாக, விதிமுறைகளை மீறி, அண்ணா பல்கலை கல்லூரிகளில் சேர்க்கப்பட்டனர். இதைப் பற்றி விசாரணை நடத்தி, நடவடிக்கை எடுப்போம்,'' என்றார்.
விசாரணை தீவிரம்:இதன் தொடர்ச்சியாகத் தான், தற்போது லஞ்ச ஒழிப்பு போலீசார், அண்ணா பல்கலையில் தீவிரமாக விசாரணை நடத்தி வருகின்றனர். அதிக மாணவர் சேர்க்கையில், பணம் விளையாடியிருக்கலாம் என்பதால், இதில் யார் யார் தலையீடு இருக்கிறது; எந்தெந்த நிறுவனங்கள் சார்பில் மாணவ, மாணவியர் சேர்க்கப்பட்டனர்
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என்ற விவரங்களை எல்லாம், தோண்டி துருவ ஆரம்பித்துள்ளனர்.மேலும், அண்ணா பல்கலையில், விசாரணைக்கு என, தனி கமிட்டி அமைத்து, விசாரிக்க முடிவு செய்யப்பட்டிருக்கிறது.நடவடிக்கை நிச்சயம்:தி.மு.க., ஆட்சியில், உயர்கல்வி அமைச்சருக்கு நெருக்கமாக இருந்த ஒருவர், "லெட்டர் பேடு' நிறுவனங்களுக்கெல்லாம், கையெழுத்து போட்டுக் கொடுத்து, "சீட்' வாங்கி கொடுத்திருப்பது, அரசின் முதற்கட்ட விசாரணையில் தெரிய வந்துள்ளது.இப்படி, 400 மாணவர்கள் வரை சேர்த்துள்ளனர். தொடர்ந்து விசாரணை நடந்து வருகிறது. அதன் முடிவில் தான்,முறைகேடுகளில் தொடர்புடையவர்கள் யார் யார் என்பது, முழுமையாக தெரிய வரும். அதன் பின், சம்பந்தப்பட்டவர்கள் மீது, அரசு கண்டிப்பாக நடவடிக்கை எடுக்கும்.இவ்வாறு வட்டாரங்கள் தெரிவித்தன.

Corruption in Admission of Anna university.
400 illegal admissions in Anna university during the past regime. Vigilence department is looking into it.

This been reported in JV long back. ippo than Dinamalar-ku theriya vanthurukku..

Anniyan
July 20th, 2012, 12:35 AM
மாணவர்களுக்கு அரசு வழங்கிய விலையில்லா மடிக்கணினியில், ஆபாசக் காட்சிகளை பதிவிறக்கம் செய்வதை, சென்னையில் நடந்த சோதனையில் போலீசார் கண்டுபிடித்தனர். இதுதொடர்பாக மூன்று மடிக்கணினிகள் பறிமுதல் செய்யப்பட்டுள்ளன.



பர்மா பஜார், இரண்டாவது கடற்கரை சாலை, பாரிமுனை ரத்தன் பஜார் சாலை உள்ளிட்ட பகுதிகளில், போலீசார் சோதனை நடத்தினர். இதில் புதுப்பட மற்றும் ஆபாசப் பட "சிடி'க்கள் சிக்கின. பர்மா பஜாரில் முகமது சகி கடையில் நடந்த சோதனையில், மாணவர்களுக்கு அரசு வழங்கிய விலையில்லா மடிக்கணினியில், ஆபாசப் படங்களை பதிவிறக்கம் செய்து, அதன் மூலம் அலைபேசியில் பயன்படுத்தப்படும் மெமரி கார்டுகளில் பதிவு செய்து, பள்ளி மற்றும் கல்லூரி மாணவர்களுக்கு வினியோகிக்கப்படுவது தெரியவந்துள்ளது. இந்த வகையான மெமரி கார்டுகள், 300 ரூபாய் முதல் 500 ரூபாய் வரையிலும், பென் டிரைவ்கள் ஆயிரம் ரூபாய்க்கு விற்கப்படுவதாகவும் போலீசார் தெரிவித்தனர். இதுதொடர்பாக முகமது சகி மற்றும் சையத் இப்ராகீம் ஆகியோர் கைது செய்யப்பட்டு, புழல் சிறையில் அடைக்கப்பட்டுள்ளனர்.



எட்டாயிரம் ரூபாய்: மாணவர்கள் கல்வித்திறனை மேம்படுத்த விலையில்லா மடிக்கணினிகளை பள்ளி மற்றும் கல்லூரி மாணவர்களுக்கு அரசு வழங்குகிறது. இவற்றில் சில பர்மா பஜார் சந்தையில், 10 ஆயிரம் ரூபாய் வரையில் விலை வைத்து விற்கப்படுகின்றன. இவற்றை வாங்கும் வியாபாரிகள், அதிக விலைக்கும், ஆபாசப் படக் காட்சிகளை பதிவிறக்கம் செய்வதற்கும் பயன்படுத்துகின்றனர். தற்போது அரசின் விலையில்லா மடிக்கணினிக்கு கிராக்கி ஏற்பட்டுள்ளதாக, பர்மா பஜார் பகுதி வியாபாரிகள் தெரிவித்தனர்.
http://www.dinamalar.com/News_Detail.asp?Id=511514

kongutamizhan
July 20th, 2012, 12:43 AM
^^Why parimudhal for downloading educational materials?

krishnaswamy
July 20th, 2012, 12:50 AM
^^Why parimudhal for downloading educational materials?
Exactly!
Llot of people here too complained that there is no sex education in schools.
Teachers than solli kodukkalai. Students kastapattu avangaloda "sontha" aarvathule kathukira materials-yum pudingki kitta eppadi?:lol::lol:


PS: KolliKattaiyai koduppanen!Thalai Eriyunthu sollvanen?ithukku bathila schools-ku computer lab or library with internet panni koduthu irukkalam.

murlee
July 20th, 2012, 08:03 AM
TN Govt to set up fisheries technology institute


An institute of fisheries technology that would offer diploma courses in various disciplines connected with fishing will be set up by the Tamil Nadu Government in neighbouring Tiruvallur district.

Chief Minister J Jayalalithaa had sanctioned administrative approval for the Rs 34.08 crore project at Ponneri.

The institute would offer diploma courses in various disciplines such as prawn-rearing, fish-breeding and equipment management among others, an official release here said, adding 20.

PTI

vivasayee
July 20th, 2012, 08:52 AM
Dinamalar news on school fee revision

http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/7655/palli.jpg

madurakarenda
July 21st, 2012, 11:49 AM
TN Govt to set up fisheries technology institute


PTI

Ennaa baa idhu? Naagai la varudhu nu sonnaango? Idhuvum Chennai ah?

murlee
July 21st, 2012, 02:41 PM
Ennaa baa idhu? Naagai la varudhu nu sonnaango? Idhuvum Chennai ah?

Naagai la University varudhu ba.. Idhu andha univ ku affiliated college.. dealing only with fish processing tech.

Link: http://www.tn.gov.in/seithi_veliyeedu/pr20Jul12/pr200712_426.pdf

madurakarenda
July 21st, 2012, 02:56 PM
Naagai la University varudhu ba.. Idhu andha univ ku affiliated college.. dealing only with fish processing tech.

Link: http://www.tn.gov.in/seithi_veliyeedu/pr20Jul12/pr200712_426.pdf

Ada paavingala, bike vaangurathuku munnadiye helmet vaanguraanuvale :ohno:

Already announce pannuna University ku innum kaasu allot pannala, college ku udane kaasu kuduthutaanuva? (Yen baa? Chennai pakkathula naagai irundhurndhaa University-kum kaasu kuduthurupaangala?)

murlee
July 21st, 2012, 03:08 PM
Are u sure kaasu innum allot pannala for nagai univ?

Innoru interesting fact-u.

Nagai Univ ku Rs 30 crore.. Indha processing tech college ku 34 crore.

madurakarenda
July 21st, 2012, 03:16 PM
^^ We didn't get any more updates on fund allocation for that university, did we? If it was done, my apologies. But then, if it was not?

On the last point, Govt is ready to spend 34 crores for constituent college (for comparatively small 21 acres) but unwilling to spend 30 crores for a even big (around 85 acres if I am not mistaken) university for whose promise came first.

murlee
July 21st, 2012, 03:21 PM
That's why KT calls it chennai govt.. :lol:

kongutamizhan
July 21st, 2012, 07:39 PM
http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Coimbatore/article3665453.ece

Formulating effective teaching methods

Training conducted for SSA district coordinators

With interesting experiments, projects and other activity-oriented learning methods, exciting classroom sessions await students in Classes I-VIII this academic year.

Topics ranging from formulating simple experiments and projects, peace and value education to motivating newly recruited teachers were discussed at the State-level training for district coordinators of Sarva Shiksha Abhiyan (SSA) held at Jeeva Jyothi Ashram recently.

Around 30 district coordinators prepared and presented the training modules for the topics allotted for them at the two-day residential programme. P. Kuppusamy, Joint Director, SSA, Chennai, who conducted the programme, said that the training focussed on providing motivation to teachers and adopting effective pedagogical methods.

S. Raja and P. Elango Jayaprabhu, lecturers at District Institute of Education and Training, assessed the proposals presented by the district coordinators and finalised the modules to be followed.

The coordinators would in turn train teachers across the State.

The coordinators shared their views during the feedback session.

S. Maruthamani and M.R. Devika said that with the implementation of Continuous Evaluation Method this year more emphasis was given to activity-based learning and creative pedagogical methods.

The coordinators would train newly recruited teachers on basics such as Activity Based Learning, Active Learning Method, Right to Education Act, 2009 and Continuous Comprehensive Evaluation.

Modules for training block resource persons, cluster resource person and head masters were also discussed at the programme.

madurakarenda
July 22nd, 2012, 09:48 AM
AUTs to be merged on August 1

http://www.maalaimalar.com/2012/07/22110440/madurai-trichy-coimbator-tirun.html

saysenthil
July 23rd, 2012, 10:53 AM
Hope, concerns over Anna varsity merger (http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/chennai/article3670431.ece?homepage=true)


The restoration of Anna University’s status as an affiliating university and merging of the regional Anna Universities of Technology (AUTs) with it are expected to bring back the name and quality associated with the premier institution. But the move has given rise to some apprehensions, too.

“There is no doubt that colleges and students will benefit . The University has a premier reputation and will definitely increase the value of the student’s degree,” says the principal of a self-financing college. The merger means that as many as 535 engineering colleges will come under the Anna University’s fold.

The government has argued that bringing all technical institutions under one umbrella would raise standards and provide for a common syllabus, and that the world famous university would regain its glory.

However, a key concern among the academic and student community is if would be possible for one institution to standardise the procedures in and quality of all colleges, and what would be the implications of the move for the conduct of examinations, evaluation, awarding of degrees and administration.

Some academics welcomed the move but said it would be difficult for one university to monitor so many institutions. “Maintaining quality and administration is a big challenge,” says a senior professor at AUT, Chennai.

“There is scope for shortfalls in administration,” says the principal of a self-financing college. He cites an example. “AUT, Coimbatore, uses Electronic Question Papers which are released to colleges on their websites half an hour before the exam, with a lock that can be opened . On the contrary, Anna University, Chennai, still sends a representative with sealed papers to the exam venue.”

There are other questions– “What if one exam gets postponed in one region because of heavy rains? Will the fact that some students’ mark sheets will be in the name of AUT and the degree certificates in the name of Anna University affect those wishing to pursue further studies overseas?” However, many principals of self-financing colleges maintain that it is too early to comment.

A senior professor who was involved with the decentralisation of the process described the move to merge universities as ‘disastrous’ because it would only create “carbon copies of students with no distinct capabilities or distinct perspectives.”

“Nowhere in the world will you find one university in charge of 500 colleges. The ideal solution would have been to divide the colleges and allot them to a university in a specific region. That could have provided us with graduates who have unique and varying capabilities.”

kannan infratech
July 23rd, 2012, 12:16 PM
^^^^

I really do not understand what they fear about.

Earlier, there was only one University for entire TN ie Madras University.

Even the original Anna University was for the entire state. They used to conduct the entrance exam and manage the semester examns for all years for all Engg colleges.

kongutamizhan
July 23rd, 2012, 03:16 PM
When you mean originally how far are you dating back? When I did completed my graduation in early 90s local colleges are affiliated to local univ. I have "Bharathiyar Univ" degree and so did my seniors and jrs few years before and after me

kannan infratech
July 23rd, 2012, 03:23 PM
Madras University - Entire state
Madras & Madurai Kamaraj University (Madurai & nearby)
Anna University - Entire state - Engg Colleges
Madras, MKU Anna, Bharathiar, Bharathidasan
above + Mother Theresa & MGR medical varsity
Almost district kku oru University
Almost region kku oru Anna Univ

Admin has never improved by delegation / partition. Quality has come down drastically. Only more VC postings and more staff postings.

kannan infratech
July 23rd, 2012, 03:39 PM
KT,

If possible, can you post the articles written by SASTRA University VC Dr. Sethuraman in Thuglak on Education Policy ? 2 or 3 weeks, he has been writing.

Thanks

kongutamizhan
July 23rd, 2012, 04:39 PM
Here u go - Part II first. (I myself reading it only after you pointed it out :) )

Will post part I after this

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http://www.thuglak.com/thuglak/main.php?x=curissue/university_19_07_2012.php&startpos=2

அயல்நாட்டுப் பல்கலைக் கழகங்கள் நமக்குத் தேவையா?

11-7-2012 தேதியிட்ட துக்ளக் இதழில், இந்தியக் கல்வியின் பெருமையைப் பற்றித் தெரிவிப்பதாக உறுதி கூறினேன். அறிவு உருவாக்கத்திற்கும் தேடுதலுக்கும் நம் நாடு பல வருடங்களாக வீடாகத் திகழ்ந்திருக்கிறது. காலனி ஆதிக்கத்திற்குப் பிறகு, தன்னுடைய தனித் தன்மையை அது இழந்து விட்டது.

“இந்த நாட்டின் முதுகெலும்பாக விளங்கும், மண்ணின் மணம் கமழும் ஸ்திரத் தன்மையை உடைத்தெறிந்தாலன்றி அவர்களை நம் வசப்படுத்த முடியாது. அவர்களுடைய பெருமை மிக்க கல்வி முறையை வேரறுக்க வேண்டும். ஆங்கிலமும், மேலைநாட்டு நாகரிகமும் உயர்ந்தது என்று இந்தியர்களைச் சிந்திக்கச் செய்ய வேண்டும். தங்களின் தனித்தன்மை அனைத்தையும் மறந்து, நம்மையே சுற்றிவரச் செய்ய வேண்டும். அப்போதுதான் நமக்குப் பணிவார்கள்” என்றார் மெக்காலே.

சுருங்கச் சொன்னால், தரம்பாலின் புத்தகம் பல தகவல்களை உள்ளடக்கிய கருத்துப் பெட்டகம் எனலாம். நாம் ஒன்றை நன்றாகப் புரிந்து கொள்ள வேண்டும். வெள்ளையர்கள் காலத்தில்தான் இந்தியக் கல்விமுறை மோசமானது. சுதந்திர இந்தியாவில் முறையான செயல்பாடில்லாமையாலும், செயலற்ற தன்மையாலும், கொள்கையை உருவாக்குவோரின் காலனி ஆதிக்கப் போக்காலும்தான் சீர்குலைந்தது. கல்வியின் இன்றைய நிலைக்குக் காரணம் பிரிட்டிஷாரின் திட்டமிட்ட சீரழிப்பு நடவடிக்கைகளே யாகும். சுதந்திர பாரதத்தில் அலட்சிய போக்குடைய கோட்பாடுகளை உருவாக்குவோரால் கல்வி இழிநிலைக்கு தள்ளப்பட்டது. இந்தியர்களிடையே தாழ்வு மனப்பான்மையை உருவாக்கி, அவர்களைத் தலைகுனியச் செய்வதுதான் பிரிட்டிஷாரின் அணுகுமுறையாக இருந்தது. இந்த அணுகுமுறை சுதந்திர இந்தியாவிலும் தொடர்ந்து, பள்ளி மற்றும் உயர் கல்வி முறைகளை நினைக்க முடியாத அளவுக்கு பின்னுக்குத் தள்ளிவிட்டது.

கல்வி நிலையங்களின் எண்ணிக்கையை அடிப்படையாகக் கொண்டு பார்த்தால், உலகிலேயே இந்திய உயர் கல்வி முறைதான் மாபெரும் கல்வி முறையாக உள்ளது. சமீபத்தில் மேற்கொள்ளப்பட்ட ஓர் ஆய்வின்படி, இந்தியாவில் 31,324 உயர்கல்வி கூடங்கள் உள்ளன. அமெரிக்காவில் 6742-ம், சீனாவில் 4297-ம்தான் உள்ளன. 2010-ஆம் ஆண்டு தகவலின்படி, மாணவர் சேர்க்கையைப் பொருத்தமட்டில் ஒரு கோடியே ஐம்பது லட்சம் மாணவர்களைக் கொண்ட நாம் அமெரிக்கா, சீனாவிற்குப் பிறகு மூன்றாம் இடத்தில்தான் உள்ளோம். கல்விக்காகும் செலவினம் பற்றிய புள்ளி விவரம், சொல்லிக் கொள்ளும் வகையில் இல்லை. தரம் மிக்க ஆசிரியர், மாணவர் சேர்க்கை ஆகியன மார்தட்டிக் கொள்ளும் வகையில் இல்லை. எனவே, அது பற்றி நான் விரிவாக எடுத்துரைக்கப் போவதில்லை.

இந்தியக் கல்வி முறையைக் குறைத்து மதிப்பிட நான் முயற்சிப்பதாக யாரும் கருதிவிட வேண்டாம். உலகிற்கு அது வழங்கியிருக்கும், புதுமைகளையும் கண்டுபிடிப்புகளையும் நான் அறியாதவனில்லை. இந்தியா போன்ற இளமையெனும் வளமை கொழிக்கும் நாடு, கல்வியில் புதிய பாதை வகுக்க வேண்டிய காலம் நெருங்கி விட்டது என்பதை உணர வேண்டும். ஏனென்றால், அதனிடம் எண்ணிலாக் கல்வி நிலையங்கள் இயங்கி வருகின்றன. ஆனால், ஒரு பொய்யான தோற்றம் உருவாக்கப்பட்டிருக்கிறது. அயல்நாட்டு கல்வி நிலையங்கள் மட்டுமே நோய்க்கு மருந்தளிக்க முடியும் என்ற மோகம் ஏற்படுத்தப்பட்டு வருகிறது. ஆங்கில வழிக் கல்வி கற்ற அறிவுஜீவிகள் கூட, இந்தப் பாட்டுக்குப் பின்பாட்டு பாடுகிறார்கள். இந்திய வணிகவியல் சங்கம் (Assocham), இந்தியத் தொழில் கூட்டமைப்பு (CII) மற்றும் பல்வேறு வல்லுநர்கள் என்று சொல்லி கொள்பவர்கள், ஏற்கெனவே அயல்நாட்டுப் பல்கலைக் கழகச் சட்ட மசோதாவிற்குப் பச்சைக் கொடி காட்டி விட்டார்கள். அயல்நாட்டுப் பல்கலைக் கழகங்களின் வருகையை இருகரம் கூப்பி வரவேற்பதோடு, ‘அவர்களால் மட்டும்தான் இந்திய உயர் கல்வியைக் காப்பாற்ற முடியும்’ என்ற பல்லவியையே திரும்ப திரும்பப் பாடுகிறார்கள். தக்ஷசீலம் வழியாகவும், நாலந்தா வழியாகவும் உலகிற்குக் கல்வியை ஏற்றுமதி செய்த இந்தியத் திருநாட்டிற்கு இப்படியொரு வெகுமதியா? வெட்கம்! வெட்கம்!

ஆனால், இப்போது அமெரிக்காவிலும், பிரிட்டனிலும், பிற வளர்ந்த நாடுகளிலும், உயர் கல்வி பெருத்த நெருக்கடிக்கு உள்ளாகியிருக்கிறது. தங்களைப் பற்றிக் கவலைப்படுவதை விட்டுவிட்டு, அவர்கள் இந்தியாவின் உயர் கல்வியைப் பற்றி மிகுந்த அக்கறை காட்ட விரும்புகிறார்களாம். நல்ல வேடிக்கை! இந்தியாவின் மீது அவர்களுக்குள்ள நாட்டமெல்லாம் ஒன்றுதான். இந்தியக் கல்விச் சந்தையைத் தங்கள் வளமையைப் பெருக்க உதவும் கருவியாகப் பயன்படுத்துவதுதான் அந்த உத்தி. அயல்நாட்டுப் பல்கலைக் கழகங்கள் இந்தியாவில் காலடி எடுத்து வைக்க வேண்டாம் என்பது என் நோக்கம் இல்லை. இத்தொடரில் அடுத்து வரும் கட்டுரையில், உத்தேசிக்கப்பட்ட அயல்நாட்டுப் பல்கலைக் கழக மசோதாவை எந்த முறையில் அணுகலாம் என்பது பற்றிச் சிந்திப்போம்.

– பேராசிரியர் ஆர். சேதுராமன்,
துணை வேந்தர், சாஸ்த்ரா பல்கலைக் கழகம், தஞ்சாவூர்.



30.10.1931-ல் மகாத்மா காந்தி, லண்டனில் உள்ள சீதாம் (Cheetham) ஹாலில் வரலாற்றுச் சிறப்புமிக்க சொற்பொழிவு ஒன்றை நிகழ்த்தினார். அதில், இந்திய குருகுல கல்வி முறையைப் பற்றி வானளாவப் புகழ்ந்தார். பிரிட்டிஷ் நிர்வாகம் இந்தியக் கல்வி முறையின் ஆணிவேரைத் தகர்த்த விதத்தையும் விளக்கினார். இந்தியக் கல்வி முறை, பிரிட்டிஷ் அரசின் அதிகார பலத்தால் நசுக்கப்பட்ட விதத்தையும் எடுத்துரைத்தார். காந்திஜியின் தத்துவத்தில் தோய்ந்தவரும், சிறந்த வரலாற்று அறிஞருமான தரம்பால் (Dharampal) தன்னுடைய 'The Beautiful Tree' எனும் படைப்புக்கு, தேசப்பிதாவின் இந்தப் பேச்சுதான் மூல காரணம் என்று கூறினார்.

பலருடைய அறிவுக்கண்களை இந்த நூல் திறந்தது; இந்தியாவின் கடந்த கால கல்வியைப் பொருத்த மட்டில், அது எழுச்சி மிக்க காலம் என்றும், அதன் எழுத்தறிவும், படிப்பறிவும் பெருமிதத்திற்குரியதாக இருந்தது என்றும் அதைப் படித்த பலர் புரிந்து கொண்டனர். இன்றைய இளைய பாரதமும், பொறுப்பற்ற கொள்கைகளை உருவாக்குபவர்களும் கட்டாயம் ஒருமுறை இந்த நூலைப் படித்துப் புரிந்து கொள்ள வேண்டும். இந்த நூல் இந்தியக் கல்வியின் அன்றைய நிலையைப் புரிந்து கொள்ள நன்கு உதவும். 1800 முதல் 1830 வரை வங்காளம், பஞ்சாப், சென்னை ஆகிய மாநிலங்களில் பிரிட்டிஷ் அரசால் நடத்தப்பெற்ற பல்வேறு கணக்கீட்டு அறிக்கைகள் பற்றியும் அந்த ஆய்வு வெளியிட்டுள்ளது.

சரியாகச் சொல்லப் போனால், இதை ஒரு கருத்துக் கண்ணோட்டம் என்பதை விட, ஒரு சரியான மக்கள் தொகைக் கணக்கெடுப்பு என்று கூறுவது பொருத்தமாக இருக்கும். அந்த அளவிற்கு துருவித் துருவித் தகவல்களைத் தந்துள்ளது. பள்ளிகளின் எண்ணிக்கை, பயிற்றுவிக்கும் முறை, கலைத் திட்டம், பாடநூல் கற்பிக்கப்படும் காலஅளவு, கல்விக் கட்டணம், கல்வி முறைக்குரிய நிதியுதவி ஆகியன குறிக்கப்பட்டுள்ளன. பெண்களின் கல்வி நிலை பற்றிய குறிப்பும் காணப்படுகிறது. மாணவர், ஆசிரியர் ஜாதி பற்றிய விபரங்களும், சமயம் மற்றும் மொழிப் பற்று குறித்த செய்திகளும் இடம் பெற்றுள்ளன. அந்தக் கால கட்டத்தில் இருந்த கல்வியின் நிலையோடு, சமூகவியல் நோக்கில் பல நுண்ணிய தகவல்கள் இந்த அறிக்கையில் உள்ளன.

அறிக்கையின் விபரங்கள் பிரிட்டிஷாருக்குக் கசந்தன. காரணம், பிரிட்டனைவிட இந்தியாவில் எழுத படிக்கத் தெரிந்தோரின் எண்ணிக்கை கூடுதலாக இருந்தது. பிரிட்டிஷ் கல்வி முறையைக் காட்டிலும், இந்திய முறையில் கருத்துக்கு முக்கியத்துவம் அளிக்கப்பட்டது. அதைக் கற்பிக்கும் முறையிலும் தரம் உயர்ந்திருந்தது. சமுதாயத்தின் எல்லாப் பிரிவினரும் கற்போர் பட்டியலில் சேர்க்கப்பட்டனர். உயர்ந்தவர், தாழ்ந்தவர் என்பது பேச்சுக்குக் கூட இல்லை. எழுத்தறிவு விகிதம் போற்றத்தகும் வகையில் இருந்தது. ஆசிரியர்கள் சிந்தனை, சொல், செயல் மூன்றிலும் ஒன்றுபட்டு வாழ்ந்து வழிகாட்டிகளாக இருந்தனர். அன்று ஆசிரியர்கள் எளிய வாழ்க்கை வாழ்பவர்களாக விளங்கினர்.

இருபதாம் நூற்றாண்டின் தொடக்கக் காலத்தில் என்னுடைய பாட்டனார் ஆசிரியராகப் பணியாற்றியுள்ளார். அவர் ஆடம்பரமில்லாத எளிய வாழ்க்கை வாழ்ந்ததாக கூறக் கேட்டிருக்கிறேன். நானே நேராகப் பார்த்தும் இருக்கிறேன். இம்மாதிரி உயர்ந்த நிலைகளை எல்லாம் பிரிட்டிஷ் அரசால் தாங்கிக் கொள்ள முடியாததால், இதற்குத் தடையை உருவாக்கியது.

2.2.1835-ல் மெக்காலே பிரபு, பிரிட்டிஷ் நாடாளுமன்றத்தில் பின் வருமாறு பேசினார். “இந்தியாவின் மூலை முடுக்குகளுக்கெல்லாம் நான் சென்று பார்த்திருக்கிறேன். பிச்சைக்காரர் எவரும் என் கண்ணில் படவில்லை. அதே போலத்தான் திருடனும் தென்படவில்லை. இப்படிப்பட்ட அரிய காட்சியை இந்த நாட்டில்தான் பார்க்கிறேன். வாய்மையையும், மரபையும் உயிரெனப் போற்றும் பண்பாளர்களை இங்கேதான் காண்கிறேன். மக்களின் ஆற்றல் அளவிடற்கரியது. இப்படிப்பட்ட சூழலில் நாம் இந்தியாவை வெல்வது என்பது நடக்காத காரியம்

kannan infratech
July 24th, 2012, 12:13 PM
There was a report in TOI today on Dress Code for TN School Teachers:

Churidhar Banned; only saree allowed.

Churidhar Khameez & Duppatta looks far more decent than saree.

Many teachers have complained that students take photos from the sides / backside when they write on board (wearing saree) and upload in internet too.

Ennappa Nadakkudhu indha statela ?

jaish
July 24th, 2012, 04:31 PM
Eventhough i am not supporting retrogressive decision. Dress their personal choice.

Teachernga ellam Anushka sharma madhiri poratum nadatha vendiyathu thane? (TVS ad)

Decent saree a katta mudium.

kongutamizhan
July 24th, 2012, 04:36 PM
^^ Decent saree-a katta mudiyum, but churidar beats saree hands down in convenience for women on the move (whether they go out frequently for work or for family activities)

chennaidesi
July 24th, 2012, 04:41 PM
Only in TN this is a problem in other states no one cares if even teachers come in bikini.

kannan infratech
July 24th, 2012, 04:45 PM
NDTV Report on Little China in Vellore

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EI_OGwrCbI

kannan infratech
July 24th, 2012, 05:02 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/indiahome/indianews/article-2170605/Dress-code-Tamil-Nadu-teachers-raises-eyebrows.html

Dress code for Tamil Nadu teachers raises eyebrows
By M.C. RAJAN

No 'indecent' dress in schools, please. Stunning the teaching community and women activists alike, the Tamil Nadu Directorate of School Education has called for strict adherence to an 'appropriate dress code'.

In the absence of any provocation or complaints, the step has raised eyebrows. And naturally it has sparked off a debate on what is 'decent'.

Barely a month has passed since the new academic year has commenced and the directorate issued an advisory on June 29 in this regard.

It asked all district and chief educational officers to direct the principals of government as well as recognised schools to ensure that teachers conform to an 'appropriate dress code'.

On the school campus, they should not wear any attire which is against 'our cultural ethos', the advisory says.

Complaints about improper attire by teachers have been far and few. In the recent past, the high court had to restrain a private college management in Chennai, which termed the salwar-kameez as 'indecent'.

The court ruled that it was the right of teachers to wear salwar-kameez. Similar cases were reported in Madurai and elsewhere. However, there was never a furore over what teachers wear.

However, the argument put forward by the directorate is that while students have been prescribed uniforms to do away with discrimination among them, it was expected of teachers to be role models right from their choice of how they dress.

It was also pointed out that wayward dressing created disaffection among the public.
This might sound similar to the views of a moral policing brigade.

Even in 2009, the directorate had come out with a detailed circular on dress code for teachers.

It had banned jeans and T-shirts for men while women had been banned from sporting low-cut blouses and transparent sarees.

Now, going a step further, the directorate is preaching the values of appropriate dressing.



'The attire of teachers must be consistent with the dignity of their post,' the advisory says, regretting the deviation found among the teaching community.


Namma ooru mattumille. Bengal layum idhe kadhai.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/kolkata/Teacher-hauled-up-for-wearing-salwar-kameez/articleshow/13016038.cms

Teacher hauled up for wearing salwar kameez


http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-tamilnadu/article3644322.ece

Mixed reactions to dress code suggestion


A few have welcomed it and others have questioned the need for it
The reactions are mixed to the suggestion from the Directorate of School Education on dress code for teachers, in both government and private establishments. By way of a circular dated June 29, 2012, the Directorate says though it had sent communications in the past stating that teaching faculty should avoid dressing and using ornaments/accessories in a manner that would be beneath the dignity of the post they held and could cause disparity, mental disturbance, inferiority feeling, etc. among boys and girls, of late there had been a tendency to not adhere to such messages. And the same had come to its notice. To avoid students getting affected and the public getting upset about such attitude on the part of the teachers, men and women teachers, while reporting for duty, should dress and use accessories or jewellery that would not harm the dignity or the prestige of the post they held. And the students too should not be affected. The circular asks heads of institutions to ensure that the teachers in their institutions adhere to the code and that there were no shortcomings in this regard. It also asks the teachers to instil love and discipline among students.

A few have welcomed the suggestion and others have questioned the need for it. M. Krishnamoorthy, president, Tamil Nadu P.G. Teachers’ Association, Coimbatore, said that though there had been a few incidents of teachers reporting for duty in a manner that brought disrepute to the institution, there was no need to impose a dress code. “Majority of the teachers are aware of the need to dress in a dignified manner,” he said. He, however, added that the schools or the associations were yet to receive the circular and only then would they be able to react in detail.

R. Vishalakshi, president of Tamil Nadu Private Schools’ Association, said that there was nothing wrong in sensitising teachers on the need to be role model to students, but suggesting a dress code was unnecessary. “As far as Tamil Nadu is concerned, there is no need for bringing in a dress code as teachers usually come decently dressed to schools. It should be left to the choice of the individual. There is nothing wrong in teachers wearing salwar kameez if it is properly worn.”

She also said that the rules should also be applicable to men teachers. Welcoming the move, R. Baby, principal, National Model Matriculation School, said that there was a need to sensitise teachers on the issue. Though majority of teachers are aware of their influence on students, a few had the tendency to give undue importance to attire and jewellery and that would create a bad impression on students.

kannan infratech
July 24th, 2012, 05:25 PM
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Ravi Nag
டீவீ சீரியல் ஆர்ட்டிஸ்ட் இலங்கை போனா அவங்களுக்கு நெருக்கடி, காமெடி நடிகர் கருணாஸ் போனா அவருக்கு கருப்பு கொடி, பாட்டு பாட ஹரிஹரன் போனா அவருக்கு துரோகி பட்டம் இதெல்லாம் பன்ணினீங்களே அசின் ராஜேபக்ஷே மனைவியின் காலை நக்காத குறையாக போய சேவை செஞ்சாங்களே அவங்க படத்தை விட மாட்டோம்னு சொன்ன எல்லோரு விஜய்க்காக மறந்துட்டாங்க இப்ப ஏற்கனவே மணல் கொள்ளையை பத்தி காட்டு காட்டுன்னு காடுற புதிய தலைமுறை தொலைக்காட்சி ஏன் அவங்க பழ்கலைகழகத்தில் நடக்கும் கேப்பிடேஷன் கல்வி கொள்ளையை பத்தி மட்டும் பேசவே மாட்டேங்குதுன்னு கேட்ட போது எல்லாம் மவுனம் காத்த இப்ப அவங்க கல்வி சேவையை இலங்கையில் சிங்கள மாணவர்களுக்காக ஒரு சிங்கள கம்பெனியோடு கைகோர்த்து இருக்கு இதுக்கு நானும் பார்க்கபோரேன் எத்தனை பேர் என்ன செய்ய போறீங்கன்னு

இதை படிங்க....இந்தியாவின் பிரபலமான தனியார் பல்கலைக்கழகமான எஸ்ஆர்எம் பல்கலைக்கழகம் தனது கிளையை கொழும்பில் திறந்துள்ளது. இத்தகவலை அந்த நாட்டு தொழில்துறை அமைச்சர் ரிஷாத் பத்யுதீன் தெரிவித்துள்ளார். எஸ்.ஆர்.எம். லங்கா என்ற பெயரில் இந்த பல்கலைக்கழகம் கொழும்பில் தொடங்கப்பட்டுள்ளது. இதற்கான தொடக்க விழா கொழும்பில் உள்ள காலாத்ரி ஹோட்டலில் பெற்றுள்ளது. இதுகுறித்த மேல் விவரங்கள் தெரிவிக்கப்படவில்லை. செனனை எஸ்.ஆர்.எம். பல்கலைக்கழகமும் இதுகுறித்து மேற்கொண்டு எந்த விவரத்தையும் இதுவரை வெளியிட்டதாக தெரியவில்லை. எஸ்ஆர்எம் கிளை திறப்பு குறித்து இலங்கை அமைச்சர் ரிஷாத் கூறுகையில், எஸ்ஆர்எம் வருகையால் இந்தியாவுடனான வரலாற்றுச் சிறப்பு வாய்ந்த தொடர்புகள் மேலும் வலுப்படும் என்றார். சென்னை அருகே காட்டாங்கொளத்தூரில் எஸ்.ஆர்.எம் பல்கலைக்கழகம் உள்ளது. இந்தியாவின் நம்பர் ஒன் தனியார் பல்கலைக்கழகமாக இது வர்ணிக்கப்படுகிறது என்பது குறிப்பிடத்தக்கது.

Partial Inputs from Prakash M Swamy - New York — with Prashanth Siva and 3 others.


Ravi Nag SRM University Explanation - எஸ் ஆர் எம் பல்கலைகழக துணைவேந்தர் விளக்கம்..

Dear friends,

This is thoroughly a misleading information. SRM university has no plans to set up its campus in SriLanka. SRM university admits students from around the world to study at SRM University in India.To popularize the academic programmes of SRM University we conduct awareness programmes in different parts of the world. We have set up an International Relations devision in the University and SRM Globals. We have organized such awareness programmes in China, UAE, Singapore, Nepal, Malaysia, SriLanka, etc. The one in SriLanka, referred in this mail is just one such programmes only. To admit students from SriLanka one Mr. Sivakumar Sinna Raja took up the responsibility through his organization SRM ( Sinna Raja Memorial ) Lanka Private Ltd., SriLanka. He invited us to Colombo in October 2011 for conducting the awareness programme. For the function he also invited Mr. Rishad Bathiudeen, Minister of Industry and Commerce. The Minister was highly enthused and spoke as published in the news media.The press had reported his speech in its daily dated 01.11.2011. I was there in the meeting. None of us gave any impression about starting a campus of SRM University in SriLanka. The photo is the one taken in the function. The press has given the title for the photo as printed in the photo. SRM University has never thought of starting its campus in SriLabnka. I am attaching the copy of the MOU with SRM ( Sinna Raja Memorial ) Lanka Private Ltd., SriLanka for your reference. This MOU is now canceled since there were no operations from the date of signing this MOU.

My would like to inform all my Tamil friends that SRM University is committed to serve towards the development and protection of Tamil language, Tamil culture and Tamil community. With that in view only we have established Thamizh Perayam and every year 10 Tamil literary awards amounting to a total amount of Rs.20 lakhs are proposed to be awarded. This year these awards are going to be presented on 24th August. Thamizh Perayam has many other programmes for the promotion of Tamil and Tamils. Please visit the SRM website for details.

My appeal to all of you is that never ever doubt SRM University's integrity towards Tamils.

-- SRM University


Then what about this ?

http://kalakakkural.blogspot.in/2012/07/blog-post_22.html

kannan infratech
July 24th, 2012, 05:36 PM
^^^^

TN Politicians are using the Sri Lanka issue for their Petty Politics - For or Against.

Nobody seems genuinely concerned about the Tamils in Sri Lanka (Yazh as well as Malayagam).

It is getting sickening day by day. Only Lip Service.

CG can do many things with its economic might but is not able to do any thing substantial mainly due to bad advisors.

Just opposing anything Sri Lanka is insane. We are not helping the Tamils there but inciting the Sinhala activists by all these publicity.

Many of us may not know that the ready made dresses what we buy - most of them were made in Sri Lanka.

Of late most of the factory PEB construction in India is being done by Sri Lankan contractors and materials brought thro SL (Mainly from Japan & China)

Should we oppose all that ?

karkal
July 24th, 2012, 08:34 PM
Chennai: Anna University to open 17 regional offices across TN (http://ibnlive.in.com/news/chennai-anna-university-to-open-17-regional-offices/273507-62-130.html)

Chennai: The decision of the government to enforce the merger of all five Anna Universities of Technology (AUTs) with the Anna University in Chennai from August 1 has brought with it a host of changes to the functioning of these institutions. The announcement made on Sunday said that 535 engineering colleges in the State, including those in the five places where the AUTs were created, would now become affiliated colleges of the Anna University in Chennai.
The twelve constituent colleges in Tiruchi, Tirunelveli, Chennai and Madurai would henceforth function as constituent colleges of the Anna University. For the purpose of better administration, zonal offices would be established in Tiruchi, Coimbatore, Madurai and Tirunelveli, which would monitor the functioning of the affiliated as well as the constituent colleges.
The University departments of the AUT in Tiruchi was being converted to a constituent college of the Anna University and students in these departments would continue to study in the above mentioned college. In case of the departments in Chennai AUT, they would be merged with the Anna University where the students would henceforth pursue their studies.

The students of the departments in other three AUTs, on the other hand, would function in the zonal offices that would be established soon in these places. Examinations to all these institutions would be conducted through 17 regional offices by the Anna University, Chennai.
The press release announcing the decision said that through the merger process, the lost glory and tradition of the Anna University was being restored. This would also facilitate students across the colleges to pursue a standardised syllabus.

kannan infratech
July 25th, 2012, 11:20 AM
There was a report in TOI today on Dress Code for TN School Teachers:

Churidhar Banned; only saree allowed.

Churidhar Khameez & Duppatta looks far more decent than saree.

Many teachers have complained that students take photos from the sides / backside when they write on board (wearing saree) and upload in internet too.

Ennappa Nadakkudhu indha statela ?

Sorry.

I read the article in Ananda Vikatan and not TOI. Thookak kalakkathula rendayum padichen. Ore Conpuson.

kannan infratech
July 25th, 2012, 11:35 AM
The survey I was mentioning earlier in this thread will be out soon.

Only 20% Indian Engineers possess language skills for Business Writing & Client Interaction!
by ARUN PRABHUDESAI on JULY 25, 2012 |

We pride ourselves for having one of the largest English speaking population in the world. We need to rethink that notion. It is probably the Hinglish that we are talking about and not English.

According to survey conducted by Aspiring Minds, majority of recently passed out Engineers in India lack the basic language competence required in Business as well as local environment.

The findings in the Aspiring Minds report are based on the objective test-attempt data of 55,000 engineering students from 250+ engineering colleges across multiple Indian states who graduated in 2011. All of them undertook AMCAT English, a competency-based standardized assessment of English developed by Aspiring Minds.

Comparison of English comprehension skills


According to the report, 25 to 35% engineers cannot even comprehend English used in day-to-day conversations. Given that Engineering curriculum and lectures offered are all in English, the level of knowledge transfer during classes is surely a huge concern for colleges and universities.

Nearly half of the Indian engineers (50% to 60%) are unable to construct grammatically correct sentences even for writing emails. In the context of employment, especially in the knowledge based Industry like Information Technology (where maximum number of engineers are recruited), written communication plays a very important role.

The report also finds that only one in four engineering graduates (27%) have superior grammar, comprehension and vocabulary command over English language. This is generally the level that is required for research and analysis profiles in the Knowledge Process Outsourcing industry. This level of competence is also required incase he/she is considering higher studies or studying abroad.

One of the reasons why we see this low level of competency in English language among Indian engineering graduates is because more than 90% of students complete their their school & high school studies in their local language. English comes in as 2nd language. When they enter Engineering, everything is taught in English without the use of local language. Given that their basics are weak, they graduate without much proficiency in English.

The report opines that to achieve good level of proficiency in English language four years of Engineering alone is not enough and the onus lies with schools to clear the basics and inculcate in students a love for reading and writing in the English language.



http://www.telegraphindia.com/1120725/jsp/nation/story_15769095.jsp#.UA_CRWH7bj4

Engineers flunk English test: Survey

OUR SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT
New Delhi, July 24:

More than half of India’s engineering graduates, some of them from the IITs, don’t know the meaning of the word “absurd”, while over a fourth can’t follow lectures in English.

Some 40 per cent can’t write correct sentences in the language, the global lingua franca.

These are some of the projected findings of a study by Aspiring Minds, an employability measurement company that conducted an English language test for 55,000 engineers who graduated in 2011 and are eligible for jobs.

Nearly 10 lakh aspiring engineers enrol every year in hundreds of institutions across the country.

Students from 250 engineering institutions, including a few from the IITs, took the test that asked questions on vocabulary, grammar and comprehension skills.

In the vocabulary test, the students were asked to give antonyms and synonyms of words used frequently both at the workplace and outside. Not knowing the meanings of such words would imply the student might not be able to follow conversations in English.


The report says only 48 per cent could answer questions on words like “absurd”, “generic”, “cease”, “adamant” and “novice”. When it came to more difficult words like “impasse”, “ephemeral”, “nefarious” and “decadent”, only 28 per cent could answer correctly.

According to the report, over 25 per cent did not possess English comprehension skills required to understand engineering school curriculum.

Only 57 per cent engineers can write grammatically correct sentences in English, the report says. This means a huge 43 per cent cannot write a correct email, increasingly the preferred mode of applications by job seekers.

“Recruiters and HR managers around the world report that candidates with English skills above the local average stand out and garner 30-50 per cent higher salaries than similarly qualified candidates without English skills. The trends in India are no different, with fluency in English being one of the key qualities recruiters look for during interviews,” said Varun Aggarwal, director, Aspiring Minds.

Teachers at IITs agreed that the level of competence in English among many students in the premier tech schools was below expectations.

“While speaking to students, one can make out the poor communication skills of students in English. Otherwise, they are all bright students. But in IITs, they learn and improve,” said K. Narasimhan, professor in the department of metallurgical engineering and materials science, IIT Bombay.

That many aspiring engineers are not comfortable in English is evident from the IIT-JEE entrance exam. Some 10 per cent take the test in Hindi.

Former IIT Delhi director Surendra Prasad, however, appeared to differ with the findings, saying most of the students who took the test might have been from substandard institutions. “My guess is most of these students would be from run-of-the-mill institutions. My experience as a teacher is that the percentage of students facing difficulty in English in the IITs is very less. By the time they graduate, they achieve the expected level of competency.”

Narasimhan said IIT Bombay had started special courses in communication for postgraduate students.

kannan infratech
July 25th, 2012, 11:38 AM
http://www.thehindu.com/education/issues/article3336855.ece

Language barrier puts students from Tamil medium in a fix
VASUDHA VENUGOPAL B. ARAVIND KUMAR

Engineering and medical colleges do little to help such students cope with the subjects that are largely taught in English

It has only been a year since newspapers carried his photo, predicting he would soon fulfil his dream of becoming a software designer in a big company, but Prabhakar Rajan (name changed), a student of the College of Engineering Guindy, from Salem, who secured a State rank in class XII, is not keen on talking about those times now.

“I often don't even understand the question in an examination. I have memorised all these programs but I will forget them in a week,” says the computer engineering student. His notebook is filled with questions which have cross marks next to them — ‘write a program that creates a palindrome' or ‘create a graphic with a pendulum that strikes after an hour's interval and says, ‘Hello'.' He plans to ask friends for their meaning.

“I topped in English in my school. But here, there are no ‘paper patterns' or important questions. Teachers help you if you approach them, but I can't do that every day,” says the second-year student.

For students like him, the first few months of engineering education are nothing short of a maze. Even As Anna University boasts of an increasing number of students from Tamil medium schools joining its courses, its students are facing increasing difficulties in understanding and clearing exams without arrears piling up.

Second-year engineering students of a college here say almost 50 per cent of the class comprises students from Tamil medium schools. Surprisingly, most students face maximum difficulty with mathematics that is integral to engineering, at least for the first two years. “Theta, differentiation, integrals, probability – getting used to these terms takes a long time. We understand the concepts, but it takes a long time to register symbols and formulae. In exams, we lose out on speed itself,” says Anivar Kannan, a third-year student. “Even those who speak English fail in mathematics but they write the theorems or explanations and get some marks.”

Besides, digital signal processing and subjects that involve mathematics also end up being difficult as do those with theory. “It is okay with mechanical and civil subjects and those with diagrams and flowcharts. With some diagrams, we write a little to get pass marks,” says Gunaskaran, a third-year engineering student.

There were no bridge courses in the first year and that made it all the more difficult. In the second year, these students had a 15-day course wherein the basics of engineering were taught. “Still, it is difficult. Some lecturers motivate us, but others tend to be rude,” says a student of mechanical engineering who still has a few papers to clear.

Two years ago, Anna University started offering civil and mechanical engineering in Tamil medium too. Both streams have 60 students each, mostly hailing from rural areas. Ganesh, a first year student says, “I had 87 per cent in class XII but I joined Tamil medium because I didn't want to fail. I am scared of reading English. Many of my school friends who are studying courses in English are getting arrears every year,” he says.

“But reading from the few available Tamil books is very difficult so we entirely depend on photocopied material. The basics of visai (force), tiribu (stress) and thagaivu (strain) are easier to comprehend, but when it comes to larger concepts, Tamil words become difficult. But I can't write or learn in English because I just don't get the concepts and depend on my friends' understanding of it.”

Professors handling these courses explain everything in English and Tamil and the students can write exams in either of the languages, he says, adding, “Most students prefer the English courses over these mainly because there is no use, I think. Professors have already warned us that companies might not take us,” the student says.

Despite private engineering colleges' claims that they offer bridge courses, spoken English classes and facilities such as language laboratories, students from rural backgrounds have only their teachers for support, particularly in the first year. The issue assumes significance as 68 per cent of students who joined engineering education in 2011-12 came from Tamil medium schools.

S. P. Dhanavel, head, English department, Anna University says that the Tamil medium students who come from families that watch English news sometimes, or have access to a library card or even a good English teacher in school, tend to do better than many others. “Given that many here come from very modest backgrounds, they don't relish the concept of leisure that can be used to read. Their vocabulary is limited to their course, which limits their sentence-making abilities as well.”

“While some work really hard, to learn English others fail to realise that they cannot avoid a subject they have to learn their entire course in. Also, they memorise everything possible without understanding. And so, they don't relate to the subject at all, he adds.

The scenario is no different when it comes to medical education. Aravind Santosh, a first-year student of the Madras Medical College (MMC), feels the problem lies in the school system in the State that encourages rote learning and never bothers to teach students any concepts. Most Tamil medium students find it difficult to cope with the English language as the text books prescribed for medical education are usually of very high standards, he says.

“You cannot say that they lack talent. But ‘medical English' is tough and without help from their classmates and teachers it might be really difficult. One year is not adequate for them to learn the language and the subject,” Aravind says. This is true in most cases.

For Prabhakar, studying three theory subjects in computer engineering, two application-oriented ones and clearing four earlier arrears, all in a span of four months is a huge task.

“Sometimes, I feel as if attending class is a waste of time, not because the teaching is bad, but because I don't understand anything,” he says.

Even as Anna University, Chennai, is in the process of fashioning a new curriculum for engineering education from the academic year 2012-13, senior professors at the university suggest a system that is student-friendly and industry-oriented.

Robert Bellarmine, former English Studies Officer, British Council (south India) says, most bridge courses are sympathetic to learners but not empathetic to them. They are based on a ‘something is better than nothing,' approach which does not help, he says. “You have to motivate the learners too, and provide them with accessible translations. Knowing a few English words is not enough to complete engineering. Both teachers and students need to know that.”

(With inputs from B. Kolappan)

kannan infratech
July 25th, 2012, 11:53 AM
More on Tamil Medium Students:

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-04-28/chennai/31451216_1_tamil-medium-d-sherin-velicham

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/chennai/article3325338.ece

http://anna-university-counselling.vdestine.in/2012/07/engineering-in-tamil-medium-good-or-bad/

TNEA 2012 SEATS UPDATE

Recently i got a mail from a student asking to tell him whether taking Civil engineering or mechnaical engineering in Tamil medium in TNEA 2012 Engineering is a good choice. I am not sure of that yet. No one is sure about that yet.
Engineering in Tamil Medium was introduced in 2 courses Civil engineering and Mechanical Engineering from the academic year 2010-2011. No batch has been passed out and hence no one is sure about the placement or the scope of the course. But here are the advantages and Disadvantages of joining Tamil Medium

1. The only advantage in Tamil Medium is that the students wont know the burden of education. While in English medium, they struggle hard to clear papers, Tamil medium students will go with it easily
These are dis advantages as li8sted by student studying Civil, Tamil Medium in Anna University, Chennai, CEG Campus.



1. There is no Engineering books with tamil as the medium of instruction. SO the students have to study with Photocopied or Xerox materials.

2. No Professor have come from Tamil Medium. So they will teach the lessons in both english and tamil. The students can write the exams in any language. English or Tamil. This is waste of time.

3. Basics in Engineering when written in Tamil are easy to comprehend. But when we take larger concepts, it is very difficult to write down those words in Tamil.

4. There is no pre-defined scope for these courses. No one is sure whether students studying in this course will get a job or not.

5. Some say to learn in your mother tongue.But here, Its not a battle for english or tamil. Here medium of instruction decides the career. When All companies prefer English as the basic qualification to enter into their company, how are we supposed to learn in Tamil Medium.

6. If you want just a degree and not a future, then just take this course

These are the views of that particular student and VDestine has no connection with these ideas

vivasayee
July 26th, 2012, 03:43 AM
^^^ Kannan what about other states? Are they studying Engg in Kannada, Malayalam, Telugu, Marathi, Gujarathi, Oriya, Hindi, Punjabi, Bengali etc?

chennaidesi
July 26th, 2012, 03:46 AM
Engineering in Tamil is a real waste of time. I am not sure why govt want to do it.

kannan infratech
July 26th, 2012, 02:20 PM
Hey

I just quoted the blogger with reference URL. Not me writing the blog and not my mail.

Without having the books and support systems in Tamil, TN State Govt should not have ventured into Tamil Medium for Engg courses.

Having said that, I am also of the view that Engg is possible to be taught through respective mother tongues. But the Govt, University faculty and publishers all have to come together and put real efforts. Only after that, they can implement.

I have seen Sri Lanka Yaazppanam University Science books and graphics in Tamil. Very good quality. They can do the same for Engg also. Even TN State Board 12th Std Computer Science book (Tamil) was very good. Many laymen and who want to learn about basic computer skills (word, excel etc) can use that.

@ Poor English comprehension:

I also strongly feel that the first year students esp from Tamil medium should be taught extra to make them feel easy with English.

Many of you may be from English medium and may not really understand the real fear / plight of Tamil medium students. Sorry to bring myself as the example to emphasise the point.

I studied in Tamil medium till 11th std in Srivilliputhur and did my PUC from Viveka, Chennai. That year was a nightmare to me. I had to write the English equivalents of each & every maths / physice/ chemistry term / word and mug up. By the time I became somewhat confident, it was the Final Exam.

Fellow students would ridicule since it was very difficult to talk a full sentence in English without mixing Tamil. (But now a days Thanglish is accepted & cool among the GenY)

Added to that I had IIT JEE and RECs (now NITs) interviews to tackle.

I was able to score much better marks than most of my classmates despite my handicap. This shows that Knowledge about the subject is more important than the English language skills.

After the advent of the IT boom, the importance of English Language has increased. The entire Engg craze is tilting towards Getting a job in an IT Company.

I strongly feel that for a core engg subject like mechanical, electrical or civil, Soft skills may not matter much as far as one is good in subject. Since all books are in English, it is a MUST to learn English and feel easy with that.

Colleges & Univs have to address this problem on an URGENT basis.

During the Counselling (mainly for Prevention of Suicides) I come across many students from the districts / villages who are basically okay with subjects but very low on confidence wrt English. Professors pesaradhu puriyamaye, 3-4 semester poyiduthu. Naduvula arrears vea. (konjam oru thala kadhal / kadhal failure m undu :lol: )

Colleges & Govts simply refuse to accept this issue as a big Problem on hand.

They should include Functional English extra papers for the Tamil Medium students in the first 2 semesters. Only after that Engg subjects should start.

jaish
July 26th, 2012, 03:56 PM
A language can't be used only for Kavithai, for movies and for pazham perumai. It should rejuvenate itself with science. There is nothing wrong government trying this. Do you know in ME they are teaching Engineering in Arabic?

krishnaswamy
July 28th, 2012, 08:48 PM
Awareness and implementation of TN GO on 100% educational fees waived for economically backward SC/ST students is very poor.
மறைக்கப்படுகிறதா கல்விக் கட்டண ரத்து ஆணை?
'தமிழகத்தில் அனைத்து வித மான படிப்புகளுக்கும் பொருளாதாரத்தில் பின்தங்கிய எஸ்.சி./எஸ்.டி. மாணவர்களுக்கு 100% கல்விக் கட்டணம் ரத்து’ என்று ஓர் அரசாணை வெளியிடப்பட்டது. தமிழகம் முழுவதும் தீயாய் பரவியிருக்க வேண்டிய இந்தச் செய்தி, ஏனோ யாருக்குமே தெரியாமல் போய்விட்டது.அதிகமாய் அந்தச் செய்தி பரவிவிடக்கூடாது என்று அரசு அமைதியாய் இருக்க... 'கட்டணம் கட்டவில்லை’ என்று தலித் மாணவர்கள் மீது நடவடிக்கை எடுக்கும் கொடுமையும் பல இடங்களில் நடக்கிறது!

தாழ்த்தப்பட்ட மக்களின் உரிமைக்காகப் போராடி வரும் 'துடி’ அமைப்பினர் ஜூலை 17-ம் தேதி சென்னையில் அந்த அரசு ஆணை குறித்து கவன ஈர்ப்பு ஆர்ப்பாட்டத்தை நடத்தினார்கள். திரளான மாணவர்கள் பங்குகொண்ட இந்த ஆர்ப்பாட்டத்தில் பேராசிரியர் கல்யாணி, வழக்கறிஞர் ரஜினிகாந்த் உட்பட பலர் உரையாற்றினர்.

போராட்டத்தில் ஈடுபட்ட மாணவர்களிடம் பேசினோம். ''மத்திய அரசு உதவித் தொகைத் திட்டத்தின் கீழ் 9.1.2012 அன்று அரசாணை எண் 6, தமிழக அரசின் ஆதிதிராவிடர் நலத்துறையால் வெளியிடப்பட்டது. இந்த அரசு ஆணையின்படி சுயநிதிக் கல்வி நிறுவனங்களில் அனைத்துவிதமான படிப்புகளுக்கும் அரசு ஒதுக்கீடு செய்த இடங்களில் பயிலும் ஆதிதிராவிட பழங்குடியின மாணவர்களிடம் பெறப்பட்ட தொகை முழுவதையும் கடந்த கல்வி ஆண்டில் இருந்து திருப்பிச் செலுத்த வேண்டும். பதிவுக் கட்டணம், டியூஷன் கட்டணம், விளையாட்டு, மாணவர் சங்கம், நூலகம், பத்திரிகைகள், மருத்துவப் பரிசோதனை போன்ற கட்டணங்களும் இதில் அடங்கும். சிறுபான்மையினர் நடத்தும் கல்வி நிறுவனங்களுக்கும் இவை பொருந்தும். இரண்டு லட்ச ரூபாய் வரை வருமான வரம்புள்ள பொருளாதாரத்தில் பின் தங்கிய எஸ்.சி/எஸ்.டி. மாணவர்களுக்கு இந்த அரசாணை பொருந்தும். ஆனால் இது வெறும் ஏட்டளவில் நின்றுவிட்டது. தாழ்த்தப்பட்ட ஏழை மாணவர்கள் பலரும் கடந்த ஆண்டில் கட்டிய கட்டணத்தைத் திரும்ப பெற வேண்டிய நிலையில் இது தெரியாமல் இந்த ஆண்டுக்கான கட்டணத்தையும் கட்டி வருகின்றனர்.

அரசு ஆணை வெளியிட்டு ஆறு மாதங்கள் கடந்த பிறகும், இது குறித்த தகவல் முழுமையாக அனைத்துக் கல்வி நிலையங்களுக்கும் அனுப்பப்படவில்லை. இந்தத் திட்டத்தின் கீழ் பயன்பெற வேண்டிய தலித் மாணவர்களுக்கு இந்த அரசு ஆணை வெளியிடப்பட்ட தகவலே தெரியவில்லை. ஏனெனில் செய்தித்தாள்கள் மூலமாகவோ, பிற ஊடகங்கள் மூலமாகவோ தமிழக உயர்கல்வித் துறை, ஆதிதிராவிடர் நலத்துறை, நிதித்துறை என்று எந்தத் துறையுமே பொது மக்களிடம் இந்த விஷயத்தைக் கொண்டு சேர்க்கவில்லை.

கடந்த கல்வி ஆண்டில் இருந்து இது நடைமுறைப்படுத்தப்படும் என்று ஆணையில் இருக்கிறது. அப்படியென்றால் கடந்த ஆண்டு பொறியியல், மருத்துவம், தொழிற்கல்வி, கலை மற்றும் அறிவியல் துறையில் கட்டணம் செலுத்திய மாணவர்களுக்கும் இந்த ஆணை பொருந்துகிறது. ஆனால் கல்வி நிறுவனங்களில் அரசு ஆணை விஷயம் தெரியாததால், மாணவர்கள் கட்டணம் செலுத்த நிர்பந்திக்கப்படுகிறார்கள். பொறியியல் மற்றும் மருத்துவம் போன்ற தொழிற்கல்வி பயிலும் மாணவர்கள் சிலர் கட்டணம் கட்ட இயலாத நிலையில், இடை நீக்கம் செய்யப்படும் சூழலில் இருக்கின்றனர். இந்த ஆண்டு தொழிற் படிப்புகளில் சேரும் மாணவர்களிடமும், 'பின்னர் திருப்பித்தரப்படும்’ என்கிற உத்தரவாதத்தோடு கட்டணம் கேட்கிறது அரசு. இது தேவையில்லாத நிதிச் சுமையை ஏற்படுத்துகிறது. இதனால் கட்டணத் தொகையைத் திரட்ட முடியாமல், தொழில் கல்வியில் சேர முடியாமலே பலர் போய்விடும் அபாயமும் இருக்கிறது'' என்றனர் மாணவர்கள்.

துடி இயக்கத்தைச் சேர்ந்த பாரதி பிரபு, ''வறுமையின் காரணமாகக் கல்வியைப் பாதியிலேயே நிறுத்தும் தலித் மாணவர்களின் குடும்பங்களிடையே ஒரு கல்விப் புரட்சியை ஏற்படுத்தும் நோக்கத்திலேயே இந்த அரசாணை அமைந்திருக்கிறது. ஆனால் இந்த அரசாணையை தமிழக அரசுத்துறைகளே முறையாக நடைமுறைப்படுத்தவில்லை என்பது வேதனை அளிக்கிறது. இதனை தமிழக முதல்வரின் கவனத்துக்குக் கொண்டு செல்லும் நோக்கத்தில்தான், கவன ஈர்ப்பு ஆர்ப்பாட்டம் செய்தோம்.

இந்த அரசு ஆணையை முறையாக தமிழகத்தில் உள்ள கல்வி நிறுவனங்க ளுக்கு அனுப்ப வேண்டும்; தலித் மாணவர்கள் அனைவரும் இதை அறிந்துகொள்ளும் வண்ணம் பத்திரிகை களில் வெளியிட வேண்டும்; பொறியியல், மருத்துவம், தொழில் கல்வி கற்றுத் தரும் கல்வி நிறுவனங்களுக்கும் இந்தத் தகவலை ஆதிதிராவிட நலத் துறை கொண்டு சேர்க்க வேண்டும்; கலை மற்றும் அறிவியல் கல்லூரிகளுக்கும் உயர்கல்வித் துறை உடனடியாகச் சுற்றறிக்கையாக இந்த அரசாணையை அனுப்ப வேண்டும்; கடந்த கல்வியாண்டில் தலித் மாணவர்கள் செலுத்திய தொகையை திருப்பித் தர வேண்டும்; சாதி மற்றும் வருமானச் சான்றிதழைக் காண்பித்தாலே கட்டணமின்றி அவர்களை அனுமதிக்க வேண்டும்'' என்றார்.

ஆதிதிராவிடர் நலத்துறை அமைச்சர்

நா.சுப்ரமணியத்திடம் பேசினோம். ''அரசு ஆணை வெளியானபோது முக்கிய நாளிதழ்களில் விளம்பரம் கொடுத்தோம். அடிக்கடி விளம்பரம் கொடுத்து அரசுக்குச் செலவு வைக்க முடியாது இல்லையா? முறையாக எல்லா கல்வி நிறுவனங்களுக்கும் அரசாணை அனுப்பப்பட்டுவிட்டது. ஏதாவது ஒன்றிரண்டு கல்வி நிறுவனங்களில் மாணவர்கள் கேட்டபோது தெரியாது என்று சொல்லி இருக்கலாம். அந்த நிறுவனங்கள் எவை என்று தெரிவித்தால், முறையாக நடவடிக்கை எடுக்கப்படும். தலித் மாணவர்களுக்கு ஒரு குறையும் இல்லாத வகையில் அரசு இயங்குகிறது'' என்றார்.

இந்தத் திட்டம் அனைத்து மக்களையும் கொண்டு சேர்க்கும் பணியில் அனைத்துக் கட்சிகளும், பொது நல இயக்கங்களும் களம் இறங்கவேண்டும்.

murlee
August 2nd, 2012, 10:36 AM
Class act
Innovation in education: How to increase elementary education in a state

The Panchayat Union Primary School in Kumaran Kottam village, 55 km from Coimbatore, does not fit the stereotype of the average Indian school. It has no tables, no chairs and no regular classes. Teachers sit on the floor. Students do likewise, in little circles. In some rooms, students from different grades sit together. All of them are busy. Some write on low blackboards, some draw, some use an abacus. In one room, a puppet show exposes the pupils to mathematical tables… This is the world of activity-based learning (ABL), an initiative that has transformed elementary education (classes I to IV) in Tamil Nadu.

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ABL, based on the pedagogical principle of learning through activity, was launched across Tamil Nadu's 37,486 government and government-aided schools in 2007/08. It has catapulted the state to the top of the elementary education charts, going by surveys conducted by the National Council of Educational Research and Training (NCERT).


PROBLEM
Despite the state government spending Rs 4,000 crore annually on elementary education, children in Tamil Nadu were struggling to pick up basic skills
SOLUTION
Activity-based learning, introduced across government schools, led to academic standards rising sharply in the state. A student at Rani Meyammai School in Chennai learning multiplication


In 2004, Tamil Nadu's students' performance at the elementary level was below the national average. Students in Class III scored just 53.48 per cent in NCERT's mathematics test. In 2008, just a year after ABL was introduced, this score jumped to 75.20 per cent - the highest in the country. The same is the case with language (Tamil) and other subjects. All this has been achieved with no extra budgetary support from the state.

The success is not restricted to just academic outcomes. Surveys have found that the children have greater self confidence, higher levels of motivation and less fear of exams. Take the case of S. Surendar, who was in the first standard in 2006/07. Teachers at the Rani Meyammai Primary School in Chennai's Adyar locality were at their wits end as he constantly cried in class and failed to master basic skills, especially in mathematics. "ABL transformed this boy. The activities got him interested and he began learning very quickly. Today he is in the seventh standard and among the toppers in his class,'' says N. Manimekalai, headmistress of the school. ABL has spawned many Surendars, she adds.

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The story was very different in 2005, when an NCERT survey left officials in Tamil Nadu's Elementary Education Department stunned. It revealed that 65 per cent of Class V students in government and aided schools did not have a grasp of basic mathematical skills such as addition and subtraction. Thirty five per cent could not read or write in their first language, Tamil. The survey triggered some soul searching within the state government, which, back then, spent close to Rs 4,000 crore annually on elementary education alone. The state provided excellent school infrastructure, had enough teachers and low student dropout/absenteeism rates. And yet, its students were performing poorly.



Traditional Teaching
Focus on teaching not learning
Classrooms are teacher-centric
Learning driven by listening
Emphasis on rote learning
No teaching materials or learning aids
Learning far from fun
Activity-based Learning
Focus on the student
Learning through fun activities
Teachers play only facilitators’ role
All five senses used to learn
No exams. Only understanding assessed
Classroom facilitates peer learning
Classroom creates conditions to develop thinking, build self confidence


For M.P. Vijayakumar, an Indian Administrative Services (IAS) officer, the findings proved to be a blessing in disguise. Serving as Commissioner of Chennai Corporation at the time, he had designed and implemented ABL to good effect in the 264 schools that the local body administered. And he would spearhead its adoption and implementation in state-run and aided schools across Tamil Nadu. "When I heard of the government's predicament, I invited myself to the executive committee meeting of Sarva Shiksha Abhiyan - Tamil Nadu held towards the end of 2005. I convinced the committee that the classroom process was the problem." The problem, he said, lay in the teaching method, which focused more on rote learning (see Traditional Teaching). Vijayakumar, who has since retired, is currently a member of the National Resource Group of the Ministry of Human Resources and Development's Sarva Shiksha Abhiyan programme.


ABL's SUCCESS MANTRA
Clarity of vision
Looking beyond govt diktats
Change through demonstration
Political backing
Proper hand-holding


Flawed System

Vijayakumar had actually woken up to the shortcomings of the elementary education system during a stint as Collector of Vellore District in North Tamil Nadu in 1993. The administration at the time was implementing a programme for abolition of child labour and bonded labour - notorious in the district's beedi factories. Officials found the 6,000 or so children weaned out of the drudgery of beedi-making struggling to cope in non-formal schools. These schools had been set up especially for the children, to prepare them for a return to mainstream schooling as their education had been disrupted. Some of the struggling students even went back to work. This made the officials look for an alternative system of education.

In Rishi Valley School, located in Andhra Pradesh's Chittoor district, they found a system that was being put to effective use among tribal children. "The basic philosophy of that system is that children do not learn by listening alone. They also learn by doing, experiencing and reflecting. We borrowed this idea and introduced it into our non-formal schools,'' says Vijayakumar. Numbers, for instance, were taught as rhymes or through activities and games. The core philosophy was to help students act and think independently, avoid rote learning and solve problems creatively. The children loved these methods and were quick to learn. They began to excel in the formal schools as well. This made the team from Tamil Nadu question the efficacy of the formal schooling system and consider taking ABL to regular schools.


Political will was the key and successive governments backed us to the hilt: M.P. Vijayakumar


Vijayakumar got the opportunity to implement the system in Chennai when he took over as Commissioner of the city corporation in 2003. Teachers were sent to Rishi Valley for training and to prepare teaching material. The national education policy has stipulated that between classes I and IV, a student should acquire 554 competencies, including addition, subtraction, alphabets, forming words, and so on. These were used to draw up various activities. To start with, ABL was piloted in 13 schools in 2003/04. A year later, it was implemented in all the 264 Chennai Corporation schools.

The state-wide implementation involved 37,486 schools, 140,000 teachers and three million students. "We had picked up 10 schools in each district to start with during academic year 2006/07, but we had to train the teachers,'' recalls Vijayakumar. So, a massive training programme was started.

Over 40,000 teachers were brought to Chennai to train, and to watch ABL at work in the Corporation schools. And teachers from the Corporation schools were sent across the state to train other teachers. But implementing the system across thousands of schools came with its share of problems. There was resistance from some teachers, with a few complaining that they could not sit on the floor. "It was a hassle initially. But once we understood ABL, it gave us freedom,'' says headmistress Manimekalai. A few parents, too, were unhappy with the new system, which was multi-grade, had no exams and no homework. But the students enjoyed it. "Despite facing these issues, we persevered. Political will was the key and successive governments backed us to the hilt,'' says Vijayakumar. The tide turned slowly and resistance evaporated.

ABL has sparked another transformation, one that was hard to imagine until recently. It has altered the student profile in government and aided schools, where students by and large hail from poor families. "Almost 20 per cent of our 686 students are from the middle class today. We are even getting students from the nearby convents,'' says Manimekalai.

But challenges remain. A recent NCERT study that looked into the efficacy of ABL pointed out shortcomings in teacher training and learning material. It has also raised safety concerns over the plastic beads used in mathematics kits. For now ABL has become a showcase project. The Department of International Development, UK, recently held a retreat for its education officers (from 70 countries) in Chennai to enable them to see ABL at work. Even China sent a team to study the system. In India, it is being piloted across17 states. On the ground, the satisfaction is of a different kind. Says V. Soureeswari, a teacher in the Kumaran Kottam school. "Earlier the focus was on finishing portions.
Today I go home satisfied that the children have learnt properly.''


http://businesstoday.intoday.in/story/innovation-education-activity-based-learning/1/186621.html

murlee
August 2nd, 2012, 10:46 AM
Felt good to read the above article.. Happy to see a move away from rote learning in elementary education! Hope this is carried forward into the higher levels as well..

geico2000
August 2nd, 2012, 10:56 PM
Reforms in 10+2 science stream likely

NAGPUR: Change seems to be operative word for the human resources development (HRD) ministry, and before September-end a committee will be constituted to look into possible reforms at the 10+2 level for the science stream. A highly placed source in the HRD ministry told TOI that the idea is to provide students with an option of studying an advanced level of subjects, so that they do not have to rely on coaching for competitive exams.

The HRD ministry official said, "IITs always test students for something beyond the class curriculum, because they are of a higher magnitude of difficulty. In our meetings with the IITs, one of the suggestions that came up was to see if we can provide students with a higher level of science at the 10+2 level. So students who want to crack competitive exams like IIT can take an advanced level of physics, maths etc"

He added that the system would be similar to what CBSE practices with its English subject. "Students can choose 'English Core', which is a basic level or 'English Elective', which is an advanced level. Now the question is can we do it for math and physics also? Certainly not impossible, and if we do manage to do it then the IIT method of testing can be built into the school system itself," the official said.

Students who then want to take a shot at the IITs can choose the advanced level at 10+2, while the others would be spared of learning the advanced topics. In CBSE, students have to choose either one of the core and elective. "One of things the HRD ministry is accused of is that we don't take everyone's opinion. But this idea was something which everyone agreed was worth exploring and hence we have decided to constitute the panel soon," he said.

Also, the option of advanced science level at 10+2 will make the inclusion of board marks for IIT seats consideration more realistic, the official said.

But many in the city feel that the HRD ministry's literal war against coaching classes is a lost cause. Sameer Phale, a lecturer at Dr Ambedkar College (Deekshabhoomi), said, "Earlier, we had only one IIT test, now there are two, basic and advanced, which has increased the pressure on students. So students will continue to join coaching classes."

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Reforms-in-102-science-stream-likely/articleshow/15332449.cms

chennaiyorker
August 3rd, 2012, 01:10 AM
ABL, based on the pedagogical principle of learning through activity, was launched across Tamil Nadu's 37,486 government and government-aided schools in 2007/08. It has catapulted the state to the top of the elementary education charts, going by surveys conducted by the National Council of Educational Research and Training (NCERT).
Felt good to read the above article.. Happy to see a move away from rote learning in elementary education! Hope this is carried forward into the higher levels as well..
+1
Refreshing!!

kannan infratech
August 3rd, 2012, 12:59 PM
I personally know many people who were / are in the process of preparing the ABL program for TN Edu Dept. (High Quality Pvt School Teachers & Educationists)

The first level introduction (which was opposed by JJ due to many references / eulogy for DMK politicos) was almost good standard except those on eulogising.

I happen to see the next level introduction which is based on Hands on & Computer Graphics (even interactive ones are there).

I hope that if this new level is also introduced, TN will set an example for the entire country to follow.

Very High quality even better than what they have in Pvt schools.

TN rocks.

murlee
August 3rd, 2012, 01:30 PM
TN rocks.

:ohno:

Waiting for a :storm:

kannan infratech
August 3rd, 2012, 02:11 PM
KT,

Can you post this week article by SASTRA Univ Sethuraman ?

Though I do not accept all his views, we need to consider and think of mitigation procedures wrt Allowing Foreign Universities into India, if they go wrong.

geico2000
August 3rd, 2012, 02:20 PM
I personally know many people who were / are in the process of preparing the ABL program for TN Edu Dept. (High Quality Pvt School Teachers & Educationists)

The first level introduction (which was opposed by JJ due to many references / eulogy for DMK politicos) was almost good standard except those on eulogising.

I happen to see the next level introduction which is based on Hands on & Computer Graphics (even interactive ones are there).

I hope that if this new level is also introduced, TN will set an example for the entire country to follow.

Very High quality even better than what they have in Pvt schools.

TN rocks.

Nice effort by the people who are involved in this. I used to wonder when we will get rid of full theory based education. Good it has started, and this should benefit millions of kids from the villages.

kannan infratech
August 3rd, 2012, 02:57 PM
One of the teachers was arguing that the scheme should start from 1st std to 12th std year by year only so that the students follow a logical proper plan.

If you introduce also for say 9th std today, they may find it out of their line since they were not trained in that from 1st to 8th std.

I saw one example where Pallan Kuzhi & 5 Kal Game (which are generally played by girls esp in villages) were used. Great mathematical concept was explained so simply.

Similarly Number Theory. Aritmatic & Geometric Progressions.

Pulli Kolam was another example. Permutation & Combinations were explained.

Simultaneous equation problem. Lotus & parrots story, Boat / Adu / Puli / Pullukattu story. When the children enact the story, they will know the result through concept.

Pinnal Kolattam was another example. But I did not sit through. I will check up what they explained by that. May be a method of memorising (not Rote)

Many of the teachers are taking only notional pay for this. No Fees.

Science they say is more interesting. Will check & post.

Geography - I suggested a play using Atlas which they showed interest. (Identification of cities / capitals & locations). Treasure Hunt type.

Music - Parai Kottu playing. Children enjoyed & freaked out. Through Thalam, they taught sound & frequency. Doppler Effect.

I wish I am young enough to go through this. May be my grand children will enjoy.

I hope that the board will not edit all these.

Govt school teachers should be trained first properly to take it to the children.

Religion / Caste / Babudom I am afraid of. They will raise silly issues and scuttle.

murlee
August 3rd, 2012, 04:13 PM
:happy:

I wish I studied in such a system..

karkal
August 3rd, 2012, 05:50 PM
I saw one example where Pallan Kuzhi & 5 Kal Game (which are generally played by girls esp in villages) were used. Great mathematical concept was explained so simply.

Similarly Number Theory. Aritmatic & Geometric Progressions.

Pulli Kolam was another example. Permutation & Combinations were explained.

Simultaneous equation problem. Lotus & parrots story, Boat / Adu / Puli / Pullukattu story. When the children enact the story, they will know the result through concept.

Pinnal Kolattam was another example. But I did not sit through. I will check up what they explained by that. May be a method of memorising (not Rote)

Many of the teachers are taking only notional pay for this. No Fees.

Science they say is more interesting. Will check & post.

Geography - I suggested a play using Atlas which they showed interest. (Identification of cities / capitals & locations). Treasure Hunt type.

Music - Parai Kottu playing. Children enjoyed & freaked out. Through Thalam, they taught sound & frequency. Doppler Effect.



Nice. Is this method of training available in video format ?

kannan infratech
August 3rd, 2012, 06:25 PM
No. Not yet.

First hurdle - Approval from the Board.

kannan infratech
August 3rd, 2012, 06:28 PM
http://agelessbonding.blogspot.in/2006/06/pallankuzhi.html

Pallankuzhi
Usha
If you were born after the 70s and lived in one of the cities all your life, it is very likely that you do not know what Pallankuzhi is. But those older, especially from the smaller towns of South India may have spent many summer afternoons in endless rounds of this game. Remember this?


The kit for the game was no more than this wooden plank with 14 holes and 144 to 170 cowrie shells ( sozhi).
The game did involve some calculations while each player tried his best to capture all the sozhis and defeat the other players.It was a little like life itself - At the start of the game eveyone gets the same number of sozhis and what you made of it later was purely left to yourself and chance.Sometimes you were nearly bankrupt and then ended with a windfall ( in the form of getting access to the central hole called the Kasi) However careful you were in your calculations,chance did play a part and you ended up losing. For example the first player had some advantages in some settings and when a player did not have enough for all the holes on his side, the holes he chose to leave empty had a role to play. There were variations of the game depending on the age groups differing in degrees of difficulty.

The above is a 60 year old pallankuzhi plank with me and when my fingers need some exercise I do play solitaire version of it. My grandmother used to play against herself and every hand she played she played to win.And I am sure it was a good exercise for her hands and mind and perhaps a defense against Alzheimer's and the like.She lived to be 90, alert and active.

So you can imagine my delight when I saw THIS
"warmed the cockles of my heart!" as Bertram Wooster would have said. And indeed it did exactly that. I am reproducing it here for your convenience:

"A Game of Warri"


"Harbhajan Singh wracks his brains over a game of Warri, a pastime that the locals introduce him to. Warri is played in India as well – it's known as Pallanguzhi in Tamil – but, going by the mystified looks, none of the Indians seemed to have heard of it."

"If you have mastered Warri, you earn the title of "professor". One such professor decided to give Harbhajan a lesson, teaching him the intricacies of the game. A Warri board comprises twelve large pockets, into which 48 beads are filled equally. The player who begins empties one of the pits that belongs to him and distributes the seeds - one for each pit in a clockwise direction. He continues the process by emptying the pit next to where he ends the first set of seeds. He carries on the process until the end, when if he finds more than one empty pit, he gives up the turn to the other player. If he finds one empty pit next to the pit where he ended, then he captures all the seeds gathered on the right side of the empty pit. The player who captures the most seeds ends up the winner."

"Quick counting of the beads and judgement of the number of pockets to be filled requires one to be very attentive. It also requires some rapid mental calculations. Harbhajan does well, plays a few smart moves and thrills "professor" with his learning curve. Inevitably he loses, but the margin (25 to 23) tells you how close it got. "Professor" challenges him for one more round. Harbhajan, though, has a valid excuse: "I need to go out to bat, wickets are falling quickly."
Posted by Siddhartha Vaidyanathan
http://blogs.cricinfo.com/tourdiaries/archives/2006/06/a_game_of_warri.php#more

Pallankuzhi-warri championship trophy - any sponsors???

kannan infratech
August 3rd, 2012, 06:31 PM
PALLANKUZHI - ITS MATHEMATICAL ASPECTS


http://mat.iitm.ac.in/home/wbv/public_html/pub/a-151.pdf


Blackberry Apps:
http://appworld.blackberry.com/webstore/content/reviews/73665/?lang=en

http://www.educationworldonline.net/index.php/page-article-choice-more-id-818

kannan infratech
August 3rd, 2012, 06:48 PM
Pullik Kolam :

Kolam - Geometric Art :
http://www.bookslinksandmore.org/2009/04/kolams-geometric-art.html

Kolam & Mathematics :
http://www.authorstream.com/Presentation/aSGuest133316-1400692-kolam-and-mathematics/

Teaching Mathematics through Art of Kolam :
http://condor.depaul.edu/ppereira/courses/geo/pagany.pdf

kannan infratech
August 3rd, 2012, 06:52 PM
http://mathematicsmyway.blogspot.in/2008/06/geometry-in-kolam-designs.html



How students learn Mathematics :

http://mesamsamo.wetpaint.com/page/HOW+STUDENTS+LEARN+MATHEMATICS%3F

geico2000
August 3rd, 2012, 06:57 PM
One of the teachers was arguing that the scheme should start from 1st std to 12th std year by year only so that the students follow a logical proper plan.

If you introduce also for say 9th std today, they may find it out of their line since they were not trained in that from 1st to 8th std.

I saw one example where Pallan Kuzhi & 5 Kal Game (which are generally played by girls esp in villages) were used. Great mathematical concept was explained so simply.

Similarly Number Theory. Aritmatic & Geometric Progressions.

Pulli Kolam was another example. Permutation & Combinations were explained.

Simultaneous equation problem. Lotus & parrots story, Boat / Adu / Puli / Pullukattu story. When the children enact the story, they will know the result through concept.

Pinnal Kolattam was another example. But I did not sit through. I will check up what they explained by that. May be a method of memorising (not Rote)

Many of the teachers are taking only notional pay for this. No Fees.

Science they say is more interesting. Will check & post.

Geography - I suggested a play using Atlas which they showed interest. (Identification of cities / capitals & locations). Treasure Hunt type.

Music - Parai Kottu playing. Children enjoyed & freaked out. Through Thalam, they taught sound & frequency. Doppler Effect.

I wish I am young enough to go through this. May be my grand children will enjoy.

I hope that the board will not edit all these.

Govt school teachers should be trained first properly to take it to the children.

Religion / Caste / Babudom I am afraid of. They will raise silly issues and scuttle.

Awesome. Any ideas which schools/places have they implemented this?

kannan infratech
August 3rd, 2012, 06:57 PM
ABL impact on learning ALGEBRA -

http://sigmaa.maa.org/rume/crume2008/Proceedings/CKO%20SHORT.pdf


ABL in Primary Schools - A Report :
http://www.eric.ed.gov/PDFS/ED144840.pdf


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-auAQSYaCk&feature=BFa&list=UL0-auAQSYaCk

kannan infratech
August 3rd, 2012, 06:58 PM
Awesome. Any ideas which schools/places have they implemented this?

Thaleeva.

Fulla padinga.

Ippodhan formation stage. Innum Approval e varalai. Long Way to go.

kannan infratech
August 3rd, 2012, 07:06 PM
TN & ABL :

http://www.educationforallinindia.com/evaluation-of-activity-based-learning-of-tmail-nadu.pdf

krishnaswamy
August 3rd, 2012, 07:10 PM
how many houses are practicing Pallankuzhi nowadays? Fathers have time on weekends to send their kids to Cricket coaching centers, Tennis centers.
but none of them taken time to play these indoor games.
In Dayam also, there is a game with 4- corner game with 6 coins each and 4 people can play. that is good thought for logical ability.

kannan infratech
August 3rd, 2012, 07:14 PM
Project Based Learning in Mathematics

Learning Activities in Math Designed to Extend Concept Awareness

Six math projects that integrate real-world math problems are presented as a teaching strategy for helping students develop a greater understanding of math.

Teaching strategies which involve project based learning offer students the potential of gaining deep insights into mathematical concepts. Mathematics projects prompt students into developing and answering their own questions. This strategy assists students in developing higher order math skills that allow them to make the all important connections between one math concept and other math concepts.

Math Problems
Math problems in project based learning must challenge students with an in-depth investigation of a mathematical concept. These type of problems lead to students using critical thinking and reasoning skills in solving problems. Project based learning in mathematics require students to:

develop a plan to solve math problems posed by a project
collect information from a variety of sources
develop a plan for solving the problem
analyze all data and information collected
carry out the plan
communicate findings as to how the problem was solved to complete the project

Math Projects
Math projects provide a method for connecting a number of math concepts within one math problem. This is critical step for students developing a better understanding of math; connecting several math concepts together. In addition to making connections in math, projects provide teachers with the opportunity to use of real-world applications.


The advantage of using math project teaching strategies is that it allows students to decide and apply math problem solving strategies and skills. This teaching strategy helps students develop a sense of mastery of math concepts. As students master math concepts they are more likely to retain the knowledge gained for a longer period of time, avoiding the short term gains of rote memorization.

Student Learning
Teaching strategies that include project based learning activities offer the greatest opportunity for student learning and must be hands-on, minds-on; i.e., students are actively engaged physically and mentally. Six examples of math projects include:

Tessellations Project – students create geometric shape using tessellations by hand. This provides students with an opportunity to use dividers, protractors, and other geometric tools. Students develop a sense of regular and repeating patterns in the world around them.

Math Cartoon Project – students must create a cartoon comic strip using a minimum of six panels. The key to success in this project is that students are able to communicate a math concept, math rule, or math technique using humor. Since all students are not artistically inclined, students have the option of using a computer drawing program.

Creative Math Book Project – students create a book using cartoons, illustrations, and pictures to explain everyday real-world applications of math. This project supports student learning in math as they make connections with geometry, algebra, number sense, and more concepts.

Stock Market Project - students pick a stock they want to follow. They make a brochure for prospective investors using a publishing computer program. Students then graph the sales of the stock over a several week period to display how well the stock fared during this time period. They make several math connections along with reading, using newspapers in the classroom, watching stock reports on television, comparing and contrasting, and more.

Geometry Map Project – students are required to design a map that includes lines, angles, and triangles. The map can be of a neighborhood town, city, or state. The map must include the following as a minimum:

Two sets of streets that are parallel
Two sets of streets that are perpendicular
One street that intersects another street to form an obtuse angle
One street intersects another to form an acute angle
One street that is a line segment
One street that is a line
One street that is a ray
One building in the shape of an equilateral triangle
One building that is in the shape of a scalene triangle
One building that combines three different geometric shapes in its design

Math Problem Solving Video – students create a video of everyday math they observe in the real-world that explains a math concept, math rule, or math technique. Students may work in groups to present a skit or role playing situation as they follow the guidelines of the project.

Making Connections with Project Based Learning
Student learning benefits both academically and personally from their involvement in project based learning. Student participation in actual real-world learning activities might encourage them to do their best work and see the relevance of mathematics in their daily lives. Teaching strategies that include collaborative math projects, particularly involving students outside their school setting, helps students learn how to be a part of a team and communicate appropriately with others.

geico2000
August 3rd, 2012, 07:27 PM
Thaleeva.

Fulla padinga.

Ippodhan formation stage. Innum Approval e varalai. Long Way to go.

Got it. After reading that, I thought its implemented. II level.

"ABL, based on the pedagogical principle of learning through activity, was launched across Tamil Nadu's 37,486 government and government-aided schools in 2007/08. It has catapulted the state to the top of the elementary education charts, going by surveys conducted by the National Council of Educational Research and Training (NCERT)."


"A few parents, too, were unhappy with the new system, which was multi-grade, had no exams and no homework. But the students enjoyed it"

I used to visit my Kids classroom and was really impressed with the way they teach. No home work no grades. Its all student centered and graphic oriented. I bought a house in the community where this school was located. Used to talk to my wife, If they do this in India, it will be great. Nice to see that it is getting stated.

kongutamizhan
August 6th, 2012, 05:02 PM
Did free meals help people to get to school?

http://www.ideasforindia.in/article.aspx?article_id=28

krishnaswamy
August 6th, 2012, 05:13 PM
I used to visit my Kids classroom and was really impressed with the way they teach. No home work no grades. Its all student centered and graphic oriented. I bought a house in the community where this school was located. Used to talk to my wife, If they do this in India, it will be great. Nice to see that it is getting stated.
That system is good for America sir. It will improve kids communication skills, but maths and other subjects, kids romba weak-agidum. when we relocate to india, 1st 8-9 months porattam than(both for the parents and kids)...

Even...
"Montessori" schools-lam chennai la vanthuruchu sir..
Tamil Nadu-le kooda matha smaller towns-la vanthuruchu..
hm..anthe kalathule thatha Patti, ille appa amma kuzhanthaikalukku solli kodupanga. so even the same syllabus looked good in 80s and early 90s.
teachers were able to explain the subjects with more day to day life.
Day by day, the quality of teaching came down and now everybody is looking as it is a mug up system.
At the age of 5,indian students can read English, Tamil and do maths. is that possible in u.s with school teaching alone without Kumon or parents special "Indian"ised teaching?

kannan infratech
August 6th, 2012, 05:16 PM
Mid Day Meal Scheme has surely helped Rural TN Primary school attendance.

But how much it was utilised to make the students study - to be investigated.

In Many schools, children come just before meal time and leave after eating. Mostly single teacher schools .

But now a days, the natural insistence from parents for school enrolment of their children has increased. (even without the lure of meals.). But it had a tremendous impact during MGR's days.

kannan infratech
August 7th, 2012, 09:43 AM
Cross Posted from Chai Bar


Sorry to say this.

A classic case of India Born Confused Techie.

I encounter many such students during counselling sessions and the main culprit is Lack of Higher Education Counselling at Schools & Career Counselling at Colleges.

Many students get confused between Degree, career & passion. Just to explain, I take myself as an example.

I took Chem Engg since many of my relatives were Chem Enggrs.
I ended up working with Architects & Builders and more of a Civil Enggr by profession now. I am involved in Urban Planning.
But my passion keeps varying. Buildings to Urban Planning to History & Religion.

The advent of IT sector has skewed up the whole scenario. Students fall for the high salary paid by the IT companies irrespective of the branches they graduated.

Why study Mech, Civil, etc if one works / wants to work for IT ?

rutvij,

Unless you are very good in Physics & Maths concepts, studying Aero Engg for PG will be very difficult. Passion may be there but studies & research are different. Doing the PG from a good school / reputed Univ is also important.

You may satisfy your passion by joining Aviation industry (may not be in technical divisions) or related fields / support systems like marketing etc.

During our counselling, we segregate students into a few categories like

Academic Oriented - Strong in Concepts but not enough for Industry / practical solutions.

Genius Types - Very strong in concepts, very innovative, Out of Box thinking, generally rebellious

Materialistic - Not very good in academics but very smart in maneuverability. Will make good Salesmen, PR agents, Entrepreneurs

Mediocre - Majority fall in this. By parents insistence , took Engg. Confused what to do. Satisfied with any job. No real interest in career advancement (but huge expectations in salaries though).

Misfits - This tribe is growing in numbers by leaps & bounds. Due to reservation policies, social pressures, parental expectations, they take Engg but do not have a clue about what it is. They accumulate Arrears and go wayward.

Counselling during Pre Final Year & Final Year is a must.

kannan infratech
August 7th, 2012, 10:03 AM
^^ Spot-on about the IT companies grabbing all available good graduates. But then, it is also a fact that we don't really have too many jobs in other fields. Actually that is the real problem.

A small correction.

There are more than enough jobs but not high paying as IT.

A Mech or Elec Enggr is needed for any factory / establishment at least for maintenance.

Civil Enggrs have never had it so good AFAIK. Huge demand.

Even B.Com grads prefer to join only IT / Bank / Insurance / Home loan Cos since they get much higher salaries. But they end up an unsatisfied lot in a few years without any career advancement.

Companies like TCS, CTS, etc recruit 1000 to 3000 Engg Grads EACH from VIT Univ, SRM univ, SASTRA Univ, Anna Univ, NIT T in TN. Almost all Engg students get IT Jobs there. Really weird.

Even MSC Comp Sci or BSC IT guys can do the same job at much lesser pay.

As we all know, not much of real IT Consulting happens in India ie no real programming takes place. Only support systems. Why waste all our Human resources in a field which is not sustainable.?

Of late Eurpean Cos have realised and are starting KPOs in India and that may be a suitable field for Enggrs with IT knowledge. Even the jobs will be sustainable as they are directly related to the quality of the output.

For the first 2-3 years after Graduation, Learning should be given preference and not salaries.

kannan infratech
August 9th, 2012, 12:00 PM
One of the School Projects given to School Students. Amazing.


http://academy1.wcatyweb.org/pluginfile.php/4400/mod_resource/content/1/SpaceTravelAndExplorationSyllabus2012.pdf

venkyinblr
August 10th, 2012, 12:25 PM
TIRUCHIRAPALLI: A US-based company has hired a NIT-Tiruchirappalli (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/NIT-Tiruchirappalli) computer science and engineering graduate at an annual package of $1.25 lakh (about Rs 70 lakh), a senior faculty of NIT-T has said.

"There has been a significant increase in annual average salary in campus placement at NIT Trichy. The average package for UG candidates is Rs. 6.25 lakh as against Rs 5.5 lakh last year. NIT-T clinched 100% placement for UG candidates. It was over 80% for PG candidates.

About 20% of the PG candidates had gone for research and higher studies abroad," A K Bhakthavatsalam, dean, placement and training told reporters last night.

Last year, a UG candidate was offered $1.08 lakh. For three consecutive years, NIT- T students (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/NIT--T-students) have been bagging the highest annual pay packages in the country, he claimed.

Over 240 corporates, consisting of PSUs, MNCs, IT, manufacturing, banking and consultancy numbering had visited the institute for the placement exercise.

NIT-T director Srinivasan Sundararajan (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/Srinivasan-Sundararajan) said the institute was in the process of recruiting over 100 faculty members.

The 8th convocation of NIT-T will be held on Saturday.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/careers/job-trends/US-firm-hires-NIT-computer-graduate-at-annual-pay-of-Rs-70-lakh/articleshow/15433737.cms

kongutamizhan
August 10th, 2012, 11:59 PM
Don't agree that everything British did is with evil design, but the article does have some compelling points about their negative contribution to educational system in India

http://www.tamilpaper.net/?p=6401

kongutamizhan
August 11th, 2012, 03:24 AM
^^ And now they don't want to impose what they perceive as our culture in their backyard :lol:

And we are divided among ourselves based on the history that they wrote rewrote...

No Indian dance, play sports, says David Cameron (http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/no-indian-dance-play-sports-says-david-cameron-253638?pfrom=home-otherstories)

jaish
August 11th, 2012, 09:51 AM
[QUOTE=kongutamizhan;94082591]Don't agree that everything British did is with evil design, but the article does have some compelling points about their negative contribution to educational system in India

http://www.tamilpaper.net/?p=6401[/

Very good article.

kannan infratech
August 11th, 2012, 01:45 PM
@ KT:

But for the British, India may not have got the fool proof system in Govt Admin.

In spits of numerous amendments from 1947 till date, our politicos are not able to dilute it very much and make the same redundant.

Indian Railways is one Dept which will talk of the Britishers' contribution for ages.

In Education, I fully support the theory that they introduced the system by (cunning) design to divide the Indian society and make them feel bad for their past history.

murlee
August 15th, 2012, 05:31 AM
Nurturing Talent


Sridhar Vembu, who founded Zoho, picks up students completing Class 12 (or in the second year of a diploma after Class 10) in corporation schools in Chennai and other towns in Tamil Nadu and puts them through a one-year classroom training and a six-month, on-the-job training. The students are mostly from poor backgrounds.

When they join Zoho University, as it is called, they are provided with a laptop with unlimited internet access, free lunch and dinner, and a stipend of Rs 6,000 a month. They are trained in computer programming, as also in math and English.

Almost all are absorbed into Zoho, and when they join, they are given salaries at par with those joining from the IITs and other engineering institutes. "Today, 170 employees out of Zoho's total strength of 1,600 are from Zoho University," says Aravind Natarajan of Zoho.

Vembu's philosophy has been that it does not require an IIT graduate to create world-class products out of India, and given the tremendous success of his office and business applications — Zoho has six million subscribers globally and competes against Google, Microsoft and Salesforce.com — he seems to be right.

Natarajan says Vembu's objective is to ensure that 50% of Zoho employees would be from Zoho University. The training facility started with six students in 2005; the latest batch has 59.

Some of the fastest growing startups in India are employing Vembu-like strategies, creating talent themselves instead of hoping that the external environment would generate the talent required, which it does not, at least not fast enough. The strategy also often helps them to keep costs under control. Smaller firms typically have to pay higher salaries to attract skilled people from more established companies. An intense training programme for freshers obviates that.

Mu Sigma started what it calls the Mu Sigma University around the same time that Zoho did. The company, which helps clients analyse the massive quantities of data they deal with and arrive at decisions, needed people with analytical skills.

"India has plenty of talent in math and quantitative techniques, given that parents emphasize math for their children at an early age. That was very good for us. But we needed to convert that into analytical talent," says Ambiga Rajaram, who handles talent creation in the company.

The emphasis of the training is on inferential learning. The contrast here is with experiential learning, where past experience is a guide to the future. The understanding is that in today's environment, businesses have to be very innovative, often doing things their industry never did before. "Like when Apple started a retail store," says Ambiga.

Mu Sigma has developed its own methodologies in inferential learning.

Ambiga says the programme has over time become almost a mini-MBA. "We are even training employees on how to consult with customers in order to bring new business," she says.

The Mu Sigma University is a big reason why the company has so rapidly scaled. It has 1,500 employees and is expected to cross $100 million in revenue in 2012.

RedBus, the pioneering bus booking portal and software company, has its internal training programme and is now looking at establishing a RedBus Academy that pools all the knowledge that it has gained about the bus industry and associated technologies ever since it was founded in 2006. The idea is still at a concept stage, but Charan Padmaraju, co-founder of the company, notes that the quality of skills makes a huge difference.

"We need to particularly develop soft skills, managerial, leadership and communication skills," he says.

The startup, which has been funded by VC firms Seedfund, Inventus and Helion, has been more than doubling its revenues over the past several years. Last year it touched a revenue of Rs 320 crore and turned profitable. "We believe we'll cross Rs 700 crore this year," Padmaraju says. That kind of growth requires more and more quality talent, and the best way to do that would be to produce them internally.


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/Nurturing-Talent/articleshow/15499947.cms

uppili
August 18th, 2012, 11:56 AM
English, Tamil practicals soon
For the first time in the history of higher education, all undergraduate and postgraduate students in universities and colleges in the state will have to take up practical examination in English and Tamil from this academic year.

In an informal chat with Deccan Chronicle, state higher education minister P. Palaniappan lamented that most students who pursue higher education from the rural areas find it difficult to interact in English. “I have seen several students not being able to speak or write in English without grammatical errors. In the past, our students were experts in English, but, now, most of the students find it tough to use English for interaction,” he said.

For complete news read:
http://www.deccanchronicle.com/channels/cities/chennai/english-tamil-practicals-soon-191

Arul Murugan
August 20th, 2012, 08:42 AM
Mechanical comes out top as B.E. counselling ends

For the first time in five years, mechanical engineering has emerged as the favourite among engineering aspirants as nearly 29, 319 have chosen the stream, followed by 27,082 who chose ECE and 18, 706 who opted for computer science and engineering.

With nearly 1.4 lakh students allotted engineering seats in over 500 colleges across the State, the general counselling of Tamil Nadu Engineering Admissions 2012 came to an end on Saturday.

This year, there are 15,000 more takers for engineering, compared to 2011. There were indeed many more seats than required here, and students had ample choice, much to the relief of those who had their counselling dates this week, the last of the counselling that lasted over a month.

S. Kumar, a parent from Salem, said he was uncertain whether to wait for a seat through counselling process or get through by paying donation. “Many of my sons’ friends did that, but I was hoping we would get through general counselling,” said the relieved father, proudly showcasing his admission document for a seat in SRS, Salem.

Many others had their share of problems. For instance, a candidate chose a college in Tiruvannamalai, not knowing it was facing legal problems. “They then told me that Anna University won’t be responsible if there is a legal issue. I was shocked. But thankfully, I reversed my decision and took another college,” he said.

“There are many vacant seats but most of these colleges are not the known ones. So we had to be extra careful,” said Rudran, another student, from Perambalur. Ajith Kumar, the last student to be allotted the engineering seat, got one in Anna University in Panruti.

As many as 55,813 engineering seats will go vacant this year, of which 55,168 are in self-financing colleges, and 644 in colleges under Anna University. “There is one vacant seat in the ST category in the textile technology,” said an Anna University official.

This year, the number of seats available through single window counselling was 1.73 lakh. Self-financing institutions surrendered 14,000 seats before counselling started.

“Last year, the allotment for 1.50 lakh students was done in 35 days; this year, the same task was accomplished in the same time for 1.24 lakh students. We hope all those who got in enjoy and learn something substantial in their course,” said V. Rhymend Uthariaraj, secretary, Tamil Nadu Engineering Admissions.

The officials expect the number to go up to 1. 26 lakh, with two more days — vocational phase II and supplementary counselling — scheduled on Sunday and Monday

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/chennai/article3792736.ece

Arul Murugan
August 20th, 2012, 08:45 AM
^^

what is use of choosing mechanical and ECE when majority of them will fall into IT field??

Unless we are into mass manufacturing the job oppurtunities in this field will be less and they will land in IT.

madurakarenda
August 20th, 2012, 09:20 AM
^^ Arul, as students they never wish to take risk by taking IT, CS like the IT business scenario is unpredictable, students (and their parents) aim at RoI and hence they end up choosing Mech and ECE since they think that they are on the safe side.

Even if IT industry was good, the firms never hesitate to choose Mech or ECE students for their IT job because they give prior training. (Mech and ECE guys never aim at their core industry while choosing the same except a few, but at the end they fall into TCS or Cognizant during mass placement). They fit into the industry too because not much is expected of them.

darkprinz
August 20th, 2012, 10:43 AM
Mechanical comes out top as B.E. counselling ends

For the first time in five years, mechanical engineering has emerged as the favourite among engineering aspirants as nearly 29, 319 have chosen the stream, followed by 27,082 who chose ECE and 18, 706 who opted for computer science and engineering.

With nearly 1.4 lakh students allotted engineering seats in over 500 colleges across the State, the general counselling of Tamil Nadu Engineering Admissions 2012 came to an end on Saturday.

This year, there are 15,000 more takers for engineering, compared to 2011. There were indeed many more seats than required here, and students had ample choice, much to the relief of those who had their counselling dates this week, the last of the counselling that lasted over a month.

S. Kumar, a parent from Salem, said he was uncertain whether to wait for a seat through counselling process or get through by paying donation. “Many of my sons’ friends did that, but I was hoping we would get through general counselling,” said the relieved father, proudly showcasing his admission document for a seat in SRS, Salem.

Many others had their share of problems. For instance, a candidate chose a college in Tiruvannamalai, not knowing it was facing legal problems. “They then told me that Anna University won’t be responsible if there is a legal issue. I was shocked. But thankfully, I reversed my decision and took another college,” he said.

“There are many vacant seats but most of these colleges are not the known ones. So we had to be extra careful,” said Rudran, another student, from Perambalur. Ajith Kumar, the last student to be allotted the engineering seat, got one in Anna University in Panruti.

As many as 55,813 engineering seats will go vacant this year, of which 55,168 are in self-financing colleges, and 644 in colleges under Anna University. “There is one vacant seat in the ST category in the textile technology,” said an Anna University official.

This year, the number of seats available through single window counselling was 1.73 lakh. Self-financing institutions surrendered 14,000 seats before counselling started.

“Last year, the allotment for 1.50 lakh students was done in 35 days; this year, the same task was accomplished in the same time for 1.24 lakh students. We hope all those who got in enjoy and learn something substantial in their course,” said V. Rhymend Uthariaraj, secretary, Tamil Nadu Engineering Admissions.

The officials expect the number to go up to 1. 26 lakh, with two more days — vocational phase II and supplementary counselling — scheduled on Sunday and Monday

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/chennai/article3792736.ece

^^ Arul, as students they never wish to take risk by taking IT, CS like the IT business scenario is unpredictable, students (and their parents) aim at RoI and hence they end up choosing Mech and ECE since they think that they are on the safe side.

Even if IT industry was good, the firms never hesitate to choose Mech or ECE students for their IT job because they give prior training. (Mech and ECE guys never aim at their core industry while choosing the same except a few, but at the end they fall into TCS or Cognizant during mass placement). They fit into the industry too because not much is expected of them.

Though most of the times what you say is true ... In my college... i have observed starting from my immediate seniors batch i.e 2009 max. number of guys are working only in Core industries irrespective of the company profile rather than jumping into mass placements by TCS or other IT companies..

venkyinblr
August 21st, 2012, 08:34 AM
Mechanical comes out top as B.E. counselling ends

For the first time in five years, mechanical engineering has emerged as the favourite among engineering aspirants as nearly 29, 319 have chosen the stream, followed by 27,082 who chose ECE and 18, 706 who opted for computer science and engineering.

With nearly 1.4 lakh students allotted engineering seats in over 500 colleges across the State, the general counselling of Tamil Nadu Engineering Admissions 2012 came to an end on Saturday.

This year, there are 15,000 more takers for engineering, compared to 2011. There were indeed many more seats than required here, and students had ample choice, much to the relief of those who had their counselling dates this week, the last of the counselling that lasted over a month.

S. Kumar, a parent from Salem, said he was uncertain whether to wait for a seat through counselling process or get through by paying donation. “Many of my sons’ friends did that, but I was hoping we would get through general counselling,” said the relieved father, proudly showcasing his admission document for a seat in SRS, Salem.

Many others had their share of problems. For instance, a candidate chose a college in Tiruvannamalai, not knowing it was facing legal problems. “They then told me that Anna University won’t be responsible if there is a legal issue. I was shocked. But thankfully, I reversed my decision and took another college,” he said.

“There are many vacant seats but most of these colleges are not the known ones. So we had to be extra careful,” said Rudran, another student, from Perambalur. Ajith Kumar, the last student to be allotted the engineering seat, got one in Anna University in Panruti.

As many as 55,813 engineering seats will go vacant this year, of which 55,168 are in self-financing colleges, and 644 in colleges under Anna University. “There is one vacant seat in the ST category in the textile technology,” said an Anna University official.

This year, the number of seats available through single window counselling was 1.73 lakh. Self-financing institutions surrendered 14,000 seats before counselling started.

“Last year, the allotment for 1.50 lakh students was done in 35 days; this year, the same task was accomplished in the same time for 1.24 lakh students. We hope all those who got in enjoy and learn something substantial in their course,” said V. Rhymend Uthariaraj, secretary, Tamil Nadu Engineering Admissions.

The officials expect the number to go up to 1. 26 lakh, with two more days — vocational phase II and supplementary counselling — scheduled on Sunday and Monday

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/chennai/article3792736.ece

Good to see this...There are few Mech.Engineers who dont wish to opt the IT or Services field..They want to be Mechanical Engineers throughout their life..I have seen many..With the present slowdown in the Software/IT services industry..The Engineering stream is going towards a more secure/in-house opportunities (there are many Auto/Mech companies in India as well,driven by local economy)

Someone said.."While there is the Existence of Iron, there are Mechanical Engineers"

krishnaswamy
August 21st, 2012, 09:12 AM
TN chief minister ordered for upgradation of 256 libraries in TamilNadu and postings of librarians for them.
256 நூலகங்கள் தரம் உயர்வு: ஜெயலலிதா உத்தரவு (http://www.maalaimalar.com/2012/08/21104545/256-library-upgrade-jayalalith.html)
தமிழக அரசு வெளியிட்டுள்ள அறிக்கையில் கூறியிருப்பதாவது:-

நூலகங்கள் நாட்டின் அறிவுக்களஞ்சியங்கள். கேடில் விழுச்செல்வமான கல்வியை முழுமையாகப் பெற வேண்டுமாயின், அதற்கு பெருந்துணையாயுள்ளது நூல் நிலையங்கள் ஆகும். பூசை அறை, சமையல் அறை, படுக்கை அறை வைத்துக் கட்டும் நம் மக்கள், படிக்கும் அறை வைத்து வீடு கட்டும் காலம் என்று வருகிறதோ அன்றுதான் நாம் எழுச்சி பெற்றவர்களாவோம் என்று பேரறிஞர் அண்ணா கூறுவார்.

எந்த ஒரு நாட்டில் படிக்கும் பழக்கம் பெருகுகிறதோ அந்த நாடு விழிப்புணர்வு மிக்க நாடாக கருதப்படும். இப்படிப்பட்ட சிறப்பு வாய்ந்த நூலகங்களின் தரம் உயர்த்தப்பட வேண்டும் என்பதைக் கருத்தில் கொண்டு, 96 ஊர்ப்புற நூலகங்களை கிளை நூலகங்களாக தரம் உயர்த்தியும், அதனை நிர்வகிக்க 96 மூன்றாம் நிலை நூலகர் பணியிடங்களை ரூ 5,200- 20,000 மற்றும் தர ஊதியம் ரூ.2,000 என்ற ஊதிய விகிதத்தில் தோற்றுவிக்கவும் முதலமைச்சர் ஜெயலலிதா உத்தரவிட்டுள்ளார்.

இதுமட்டுமல்லாமல், 160 பகுதி நேர நூலகங்களை ஊர்ப்புற நூலகங்களாக தரம் உயர்த்தவும், தரம் உயர்த்தப்படும் நூலகங்களை நிர்வகிக்க 160 ஊர்ப்புற நூலகர் பணியிடங்களை ரூ2,500–5,000 மற்றும் தர ஊதியம் ரூ.500/- என்ற சிறப்பு ஊதிய விகிதத்தில் தோற்றுவிக்கவும் முதலமைச்சர் ஜெயலலிதா உத்தரவிட்டுள்ளார். அரசின் இந்த நடவடிக்கைகள் பொதுமக்கள் மற்றும் மாணவர்களுக்கு பெரும் உதவிகரமாக இருப்பது மட்டுமன்றி, அவர்களது கல்வி அறிவு சிறந்து விளங்க வழிவகை செய்யும்.

இவ்வாறு அதில் கூறப்பட்டுள்ளது.

jaish
August 21st, 2012, 09:24 AM
Very good move.

wlbkng
August 22nd, 2012, 09:38 PM
Tamil Nadu student wins U.K. MBA scholarship

Sruthi Vijayachandran, a postgraduate student from Tamil Nadu, has been awarded a scholarship to study MBA at the London School of Business Finance after being awarded the First Prize in the final of the Best Young Speaker from Asia competition held at Robinson College, University of Cambridge.

Ms. Vijayachandran, who hails from Coonoor, was among nine young English language students from across Asia flown to Britain to take part in the competition that involved giving two presentations with a business theme and answering a series of questions put to them by an expert panel.

She described it as “an amazing experience”.

Simon Wright of the University of Cambridge ESOL Examinations (English for Speakers of Other Languages Examinations), which organised the competition, said: “Sruthi has a real flair for communications and this really showed on the day. Her talent and ability really caught the eyes of the judges and I’d like to congratulate her for such an impressive performance.”

Organisers said that Ms. Vijayachandran, who holds a Master’s Degree in public relations, secured a place in the final by “impressing judges with her English speaking ability” at the regional rounds held earlier this year.

She also recently passed Cambridge English: Business Vantage (BEC) – a high level business English qualification developed by Cambridge ESOL.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/article3808068.ece?homepage=true

TShyam
August 23rd, 2012, 10:01 PM
Ajith Kumar, the last student to be allotted the engineering seat, got one in Anna University in Panruti.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/chennai/article3792736.ece

:lol:
I feel bad for Ajith Kumar. This is probably the only time his name will appear in a newspaper and he cant proudly exhibit it. Poor chap.

kannan infratech
August 24th, 2012, 10:21 AM
Though it may be against ethics, I just want to share this news.

Yesterday, I attended a counselling session with a student from an Engg College in TN District and his father & cousin (who stays at Chennai & who had a similar counselling session with me a few years back).

The guy, a dalit just managed to pass the +2 examn. English Knowledge is very poor. Even writing in Tamil coherently is difficult.

His father is a farm worker. Does not own any land. Lives in a (dalit) colony in their village. Does not get regular work due to poor farming season this year. Mother is also a farm worker.

The student applied and got a seat in one of the Engg colleges in TN Districts. Branch opted is Civil. His cousin came to me for financial help to pay the fees etc a few weeks back (which I do in my personal capacity & through my friends).

But on meeting him, we found that the student will certainly not make it & may accumulate arrears. The college where he got admission does not have proper / enough teachers too and work in make shift classrooms (Forget about labs & workshops).

Since we refused Financial aid, the student attempted suicide. Then they brought him to me for counselling.

This is the status of Engg education & Student maturity in TN.

The Govt should give extra training & spend money on better food, health & edu facilities so that the downtrodden students can come up in life.

But simply admitting unqualified students in Engg colleges and swelling the number of Failed students & unemployed graduates / engineers is a great disservice to the society.

All political parties do not address this issue at all.

I hope that they bring back the Engg Entrance exam.

NSH
August 24th, 2012, 12:00 PM
Though it may be against ethics, I just want to share this news.

Yesterday, I attended a counselling session with a student from an Engg College in TN District and his father & cousin (who stays at Chennai & who had a similar counselling session with me a few years back).

The guy, a dalit just managed to pass the +2 examn. English Knowledge is very poor. Even writing in Tamil coherently is difficult.

His father is a farm worker. Does not own any land. Lives in a (dalit) colony in their village. Does not get regular work due to poor farming season this year. Mother is also a farm worker.

The student applied and got a seat in one of the Engg colleges in TN Districts. Branch opted is Civil. His cousin came to me for financial help to pay the fees etc a few weeks back (which I do in my personal capacity & through my friends).

But on meeting him, we found that the student will certainly not make it & may accumulate arrears. The college where he got admission does not have proper / enough teachers too and work in make shift classrooms (Forget about labs & workshops).

Since we refused Financial aid, the student attempted suicide. Then they brought him to me for counselling.

This is the status of Engg education & Student maturity in TN.

The Govt should give extra training & spend money on better food, health & edu facilities so that the downtrodden students can come up in life.

But simply admitting unqualified students in Engg colleges and swelling the number of Failed students & unemployed graduates / engineers is a great disservice to the society.

All political parties do not address this issue at all.

I hope that they bring back the Engg Entrance exam.

I agree with your points to bring back Engg. Entrance Exam. In 80s and early 90s Engineering had some value as DOTE has set cut off marks for elgibility to appear Engg. entrance. Off late due to mushrooming of engg. colleges run by power poltical personnel to settle down in their life has changed the profile of engg. Trusts were formed to find out safe avenue for black money, channelize income for politician's wards for future.

Better late than never and it is high time to take hard steps to bring some level of standards.

kvijayasundaram
August 25th, 2012, 01:31 AM
Though it may be against ethics, I just want to share this news.

Yesterday, I attended a counselling session with a student from an Engg College in TN District and his father & cousin (who stays at Chennai & who had a similar counselling session with me a few years back).

The guy, a dalit just managed to pass the +2 examn. English Knowledge is very poor. Even writing in Tamil coherently is difficult.

His father is a farm worker. Does not own any land. Lives in a (dalit) colony in their village. Does not get regular work due to poor farming season this year. Mother is also a farm worker.

The student applied and got a seat in one of the Engg colleges in TN Districts. Branch opted is Civil. His cousin came to me for financial help to pay the fees etc a few weeks back (which I do in my personal capacity & through my friends).

But on meeting him, we found that the student will certainly not make it & may accumulate arrears. The college where he got admission does not have proper / enough teachers too and work in make shift classrooms (Forget about labs & workshops).

Since we refused Financial aid, the student attempted suicide. Then they brought him to me for counselling.

This is the status of Engg education & Student maturity in TN.

The Govt should give extra training & spend money on better food, health & edu facilities so that the downtrodden students can come up in life.

But simply admitting unqualified students in Engg colleges and swelling the number of Failed students & unemployed graduates / engineers is a great disservice to the society.

All political parties do not address this issue at all.

I hope that they bring back the Engg Entrance exam.

Though the story is disturbing, I could possibly be an one-off case. IMHO, It may not be a right thing to generalize the status of Engg education in TN as a whole based on personal experiences that are apparently glaring and catch one's attention very easily.

Nonetheless I agree that we need Engg/Medical Entrance exams back, but not just to filter students based on the marks they obtain in tests, but to provide a feedback of where the students stand and where they are falling short. This can be instrumental in rectifying any subject deficiencies and equip them to face higher studies with confidence.

kvijayasundaram
August 25th, 2012, 01:36 AM
Not related to TN education, yet nice read..
http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Hyderabad/article3817433.ece

The joy of reaching their dream destination is turning out to be a short-lived one, apparently due to a faulty training system that only prepares students to enter the prestigious Indian Institutes of Technology (IITs).

The suicide of an IIT Kanpur student, Vaditya Nehru, has once again brought to fore the pressure on State students to perform at the IITs. It has also exposed the mismatch of quality of training they get at the Intermediate level and the stringent academic standards maintained at the institutes.

The rote mode of learning and getting trained to crack the IIT-JEE are the banes, apart from the inability to handle the pressure in such a competitive atmosphere.

Nehru, who hails from Miryalaguda, allegedly took the extreme step unable to match the academic standards. Last year, L. Nitin Kumar Reddy of Chittoor committed suicide in IIT Madras for similar reasons.

There have been quite a few earlier too, apart from those who have made unsuccessful attempts. In most cases, academic pressure was the main reason.

“In IITs they are exposed to a totally different academic style, unlike what they learn in junior colleges, and unfortunately, they are not prepared well,” says R.V. Raja Kumar, Vice-Chancellor of RGUKT, who was a faculty at IIT Kharagpur earlier. “Their conceptual understanding is less. They get admissions due to the grinding they go through for the entrance exam.”

Interestingly, some professors from Andhra Pradesh working in IITs conducted an internal study to pinpoint the lacunae among Telugu students. Their study found that most of them lack creative skills or they don’t adapt to the new system easily. Education at IITs emphasises on creative work and capability to learn new things fast. Unfortunately, they are poor on both counts.

A teacher says that IITians from the State can be divided into three groups. The first one constituting around 25 per cent are exceptionally good while the second group constituting about another 40 per cent work hard to overcome their inherent deficiencies. The problem is with the remaining 35 per cent who fail to rise up to the IIT standards.

“The pressure is on two counts – to perform according to their JEE rank status, and perform after adapting to a totally different academic style competing with the best minds from different parts of the country. Majority of our students lack that competitiveness,” says an IIT trainer. “Andhra Pradesh accounts for nearly 18 per cent of all successful IIT aspirants in the country, thanks to the aggression of the corporate colleges’ training but not quality preparation.”

“The IITs on their part offer total assistance to academically weak students, and it’s a manageable issue,” says U.B. Desai, Director, IIT Hyderabad. “But what they need is support from parents and friends back home, who generally have huge expectations. Unfortunately, there are few channels for the frustrated students to confide and seek solutions, and that leads to suicides,” says C. Veerender, a counsellor.

kannan infratech
August 25th, 2012, 11:15 AM
Though the story is disturbing, I could possibly be an one-off case. IMHO, It may not be a right thing to generalize the status of Engg education in TN as a whole based on personal experiences that are apparently glaring and catch one's attention very easily.

Nonetheless I agree that we need Engg/Medical Entrance exams back, but not just to filter students based on the marks they obtain in tests, but to provide a feedback of where the students stand and where they are falling short. This can be instrumental in rectifying any subject deficiencies and equip them to face higher studies with confidence.

Vijay,

It is not one off. It happens to top colleges too.

In Anna Univ Guindy campus, (which admits top students based on +2 marks - 99% or so) not even 50% clear all subjects in 1st & 2nd semester.

We get a stream of students for counselling from Guindy campus and most of the students are not able to cope up with the Engg education.

There should be a filter which tests the real understanding of the subjects before they are admitted into Engg colleges.

90% of the top students take CSE / ECE since IT companies recruit them as first choice. They really do not have the aptitude required for CSE/ ECE.They become misfits and fail in the examns.

kannan infratech
August 25th, 2012, 11:21 AM
Reg IIT JEE coaching:

I have been having a ringside view for the last 4 years as my son was going through this.

It is Rote Model for State Board HSC examns.

It is Pattern Recognition Model for IIT JEE.

The top coaching classes train you to identify the pattern and solve the problems blindly. They hardly get 30 secs per question and unless you do Pattern recognition, you will be at seas.

Kota, Patna & AP coaching classes do this and so are able to get most students qualify.

If they change IIT JEE pattern back to Subjective ones (as it used to be earlier), then these coaching classes may not be able to get such high results.

The real brilliant students will only make it.

murlee
August 25th, 2012, 02:51 PM
Came across this initiative by Govt of AP. Pretty good effort, I think..

http://www.rgukt.in/home-aboutrgukt.html

No idea how it is working on the ground, though. TN should try something like this.

Think this is some what like what Kannan Sir was trying to convey. Give the brighter rural students a better chance for quality education..

kannan infratech
August 25th, 2012, 07:52 PM
Came across this initiative by Govt of AP. Pretty good effort, I think..

http://www.rgukt.in/home-aboutrgukt.html

No idea how it is working on the ground, though. TN should try something like this.

Think this is some what like what Kannan Sir was trying to convey. Give the brighter rural students a better chance for quality education..

I went and studied the system there. More on paper as of now. But a good initiative. No Doubt

I feel the English Phobia is the biggest stumbling block for a rural student. They should have the Engg / Medical entrance in Tamil also. Many good students will qualify which they are not able to crack now due to poor english.

During first year degree, the rural students should be given special coaching in Business English and Scientific English.

murlee
August 26th, 2012, 11:22 AM
Southern states lead pack in providing education loan


Southern states of Tamil Nadu, Kerala, Andhra Pradesh and Karnataka account for about 50 percent of education loans disbursed by public sector banks.

Of the total outstanding education loan of Rs 49,069 crore as of March 2012, these four states among 35 states and union territories account for as much as 54 per cent of the total disbursement.

Disbursement of education loan has been highest in Tamil Nadu with outstanding loan of Rs 11,625 crore followed by most literate state Kerala with Rs 6,180 crore.

As per official data, Andhra Pradesh and Karnataka accounted for Rs 5,215 crore and Rs 3,479.80 crore respectively. Education loan disbursement in these four states put together stood at about Rs 26,500 crore at the end of 2011-12.

In terms of disbursement, union territory of Lakshadweep was lowest with disbursement of just Rs 0.38 crore followed by Daman and Diu at Rs 2.91 crore.

Over Rs 49,000 crore education loan has been disbursed through 24.60 lakh accounts at the end of March 2012.

In order to promote education loan, Finance Minister P Chidambaram recently directed banks not to reject such loan applications without sufficient reasons.

"No application should be turned down by the (bank) officer who is receiving it. It can only be turned down by one level higher. They will now penalise branch managers who turn down, say, 5/10 deserving applications which are overturned by a superior officer," Chidambaram had said last week.

The Indian Bank Association (IBA) would come out with a new circular on education loans in the next few days, he had said.

"Bank loan is the right of every student who meets the parameter. No bank can turn away an applicant. Every application for a bank loan must be received and acknowledged and every deserving candidate must be given the loan if the student meets the parameter," he had said.

Education loan is granted to Indian nationals for pursuing higher studies in India or abroad. As per its website, State Bank of India gives loan of up to Rs 10 lakh for studies in India, and Rs 30 lakh for education abroad.

Such loans are usually extended to candidates pursuing professional courses from approved universities or from autonomous institutions like IITs and IIMs, among others.


http://zeenews.india.com/news/nation/southern-states-lead-pack-in-providing-education-loan_795838.html

saysenthil
August 27th, 2012, 10:27 AM
70% of seats vacant in new B.E. colleges in TN (http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/chennai/article3824933.ece?homepage=true)

http://www.thehindu.com/multimedia/dynamic/01190/vbk-26rs-chenp2-BE_1190193f.jpg


In some institutes, vacancy goes beyond 90 per cent as students opt for established names

Over 70 per cent of seats in the 20 engineering colleges that were started this year remain vacant. Many students have trumped courses in these new institutions in favour of reputed colleges.

The new colleges had surrendered 60 per cent of their seats to Tamil Nadu Engineering Admissions when counselling began.

Of the 3,456 seats available through general academic counselling, nearly 3,157 seats were vacant as per the data available on Tamil Nadu Engineering Admissions (TNEA) 2012 website a day before counselling got over.

“In some colleges, the vacancy position goes beyond 90 per cent,” says D. Nedunchezhian, consultant, Technocrats India College Finder. The AICTE had approved 32 new colleges this year, of which 12 are architecture colleges and the rest, engineering institutions. Nearly 1.4 lakh students were allotted engineering seats in over 500 colleges across the State as TNEA’s general counselling came to an end last week.

A lot of expenditure is incurred in establishing a college, and this is especially so, in the case of colleges that are not part of an established trust.

For instance, Prof. Sasi, principal of Sri Ramakrishna College of Engineering, 25 km from Ariyalur, says though his is one of the few colleges in the district, many seats are vacant.

“It takes time for a college to establish and gain in reputation. Though we have good laboratories and faculty members who were appointed before the college started, we have very few students,” he says. The principal is, however, relieved that his college has done better than many other newer colleges opened in southern part of the State.

Officials from other college managements blame the delay in approvals as the reason for the large number of vacant seats. “We were informed about the approval only in the beginning of June. We did not even have time to advertise properly,” says the principal of a college in Pollachi.

Colleges that are under the fold of established trusts that already run many other institutes have little to worry about.

For instance, V. Ganesan, chairman of Vedanta Institute of Technology, says though only about 50 seats have been filled in his college, he does not see a reason to worry, because the management runs nearly 38 colleges across the State.

“Students who opt for new colleges are mostly poor scorers who are not well informed about what choices to make,” says Mr. Nedunchezhian. He also points out that since engineering is an expensive course, most students want to ensure they get admitted into a college with a good placement record.

Most of the new colleges have four operational branches of engineering that include computer science, mechanical engineering, ECE and electrical engineering.

“Streams that demand more investment like chemical or civil engineering are introduced only at a later stage. We also predicted IT would go out of favour this time, so we did not offer that branch,” says a professor of a college in Kancheepuram.

This year, there are 15,000 more takers for engineering, as compared to 2011. There were more seats than required and students had ample choice, says a TNEA official. “Most reputed colleges applied for an increase in seats. Colleges that began with just 200 seats in 2008, have up to 700 seats now,” he says.

murlee
August 27th, 2012, 06:07 PM
IIIT Srirangam project gets two more companies as private sponsors


The proposed Indian Institute of Information Technology (IIIT) at Srirangam, near Tiruchi, a pet project of Tamil Nadu Chief Minister J Jayalalithaa, which hit a hurdle with some companies backing out of this public-private-partnership, is seeing some ray of rope now.

Two more companies, to add to the initial four sponsors, have given their letter of consent for participation. "Two companies have given their consent today for participating in this initiative," said Higher Education Secretary TS Sridhar, while addressing corporates at an event conducted by the ICT Academy of Tamil Nadu in Chennai on Monday. The academy is an initiative of the Indian Government, Tamil Nadu Government and the CII. He didn't name the two companies.

Discussions for the setting up of the IIITstarted in April this year, a Government Website had then noted, with participation from companies such as Hyundai , Ashok Leyland, Polaris Financial Technology, Infosys, Saint-Gobain, TVS group, Tafe, Autodesk, Take Solutions and Microsoft Corporation.

Only four sponsors - Cognizant, TCS, Take Solutions and Infosys co-chairman Kris Gopalakrishnan (personal contribution) - eventually agreed to take part, giving Rs 2 crore each toward the project. Others who took part in the initial discussions backed out. These four also refused to contribute further to make good the loss of those who backed out.

"We need a minimum of three and maximum of ten corporates to be a part of this venture. I request companies to contribute academically and financially. It is a worthy venture to participate and participating companies will be on the board of IIIT," Sridhar said.

Tamil Nadu already has an IIIT at Kanchipuram for IT in design as well as manufacturing.

The IIITs are jointly promoted by India's Ministry of Human Resource Development, the host state government and the industry. These institutions provide undergraduate as well as postgraduate education in information technology.

According to a note on the Web site of the Ministry of Human Resource Development, 20 IIITs have been planned in the 11th Five Year Plan (which ends this year).

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/news-by-industry/services/education/iiit-srirangam-project-gets-two-more-companies-as-private-sponsors/articleshow/15836354.cms

kannan infratech
August 28th, 2012, 11:50 AM
ICTACT which has been formed by TN IT Dept with the backing of all IT majors is doing yeomen service for the IT Teachers Training in schools, setting syllabii for IT related subjects in Schools & colleges, Giving training to Engg & CS grads so that they become employable.

A very great initiative and most successfully run in the country.

vivasayee
August 29th, 2012, 03:42 AM
Many matriculation schools are not following samacheer syllabus. They are teaching in Matriculation syllabus and are conducting examinations in matric syllabus.This burdens students physically and mentally.Students are carrying more books against the wish of TN govt.

சமச்சீர் கல்வி திட்டத்தை செயல்படுத்தாத பள்ளிக்கு நோட்டீஸ்-28-08-2012

சென்னை: தமிழக அரசின் அங்கீகாரத்துடன் இயங்கும் பிரபல தனியார் பள்ளிகள், சமச்சீர் கல்வி திட்டத்தை அமல்படுத்தாமல், சி.பி.எஸ்.இ., பாடத் திட்டங்களை நடத்தி வருகின்றன. சமீபத்தில், பிரபல தனியார் பள்ளி ஒன்றில், இத்தகைய முறைகேட்டை கண்டுபிடித்த, மெட்ரிக் குலேஷன் பள்ளிகள் இயக்குனரகம், அதன் அங்கீகாரத்தை ரத்து செய்வது குறித்து நோட்டீஸ் அனுப்பி உள்ளது.

http://kalvimalar.dinamalar.com/tamil/news-details.asp?id=14962&cat=1

kannan infratech
August 29th, 2012, 01:00 PM
I find Samacheer books very interesting & syllabii is also good.

krishnaswamy
August 30th, 2012, 03:51 AM
From AV:
சர்வதேசப் பெருமையைத் தட்டியிருக்கிறார் குன்னூரைச் சேர்ந்த ஸ்ருதி விஜயச்சந்திரன். லண்டன் கேம்பிரிட்ஜ் பல்கலைக்கழகம் சார்பில் நடந்த சிறந்த ஆசிய இளம் பேச்சாளருக்கான போட்டியில் ஆசிய நாடுகளைச் சேர்ந்த ஒன்பது போட்டியாளர்களிடையே 'சிறந்த பேச்சாளர்’ ஆகத் தேர்வு பெற்றிருக்கிறார் ஸ்ருதி. கேம்பிரிட்ஜ் பிசினஸ் வான்டேஜ் பல்கலைக்கழகத்தில் பட்ட மேற்படிப்பு முடித்தவருக்கு இதனால் சர்வதேச நிதி நிர்வாகப் பள்ளியில் படிக்கும் வாய்ப்பு கிடைக்கும். பேசிக்கிட்டே படிங்க!
Shruthi Vijayachandran from Coonoor has won "best Asian young orator" award from London Cambridge university.
:applause::applause:

krishnaswamy
September 6th, 2012, 03:12 AM
TN CM Inaugurated Bodi(Theni Dt) Engg College and inaugurated new campus for the various govt colleges in TN.
Total estimated cost for these projects around 110 cr and 93 cr is allotted for the Bodi Govt college.
http://epaper.dinakaran.com/pdf/2012/09/06/20120906a_004101005.jpg

karthikarthik
September 7th, 2012, 07:15 AM
As a part of stanford university online courses, i have participated in technology entrepreneurship class(Free online course by Stanford). 20 teams got selected and was offered one-to one meetings with various investors, experts and serial entrepreneurs. Now a repeat session is going to happen. Anyone interested can join.


We are very proud to announce 5 new Stanford classes to be offered on Venture Lab this Fall. Here is the list:

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A Crash Course on Creativity, Tina Seelig http://venture-lab.org/creativity
Designing a New Learning Environment, Paul Kim http://venture-lab.org/education
Finance, Kay Giesecke http://venture-lab.org/finance


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http://www.udacity.com/overview/Course/ep245/CourseRev/1

uppili
September 8th, 2012, 10:41 AM
அரசு மற்றும் அரசு நிதியுதவி பெறும் பள்ளிகளில், ஒன்று முதல், எட்டாம் வகுப்பு வரை பயிலும் மாணவர்களுக்கு, இரண்டாம் பருவத்திற்கான, 9.50 கோடி பாடப் புத்தகங்கள், 15ம் தேதி முதல் வினியோகிக்கப்படும்,'' என, பாடநூல் கழக நிர்வாக இயக்குனர் கோபால் தெரிவித்தார்.

Source: http://www.dinamalar.com/News_Detail.asp?Id=543077

geico2000
September 10th, 2012, 05:11 PM
நல்லாசிரியர்' விருதுகளை"அள்ளும்' கிழக்கு ஒன்றியம்:7 ஆண்டுகளாக சாதனை

மதுரை;மதுரையில், மேலூர் கல்வி மாவட்டத்தில், கிழக்கு ஒன்றியத்துக்குட்பட்ட பள்ளி ஆசிரியர்கள், 7 ஆண்டுகளாக தொடர்ந்து "நல்லாசிரியர்' விருதுகளை பெற்று சாதனை படைத்து வருகின்றனர். சிறந்த சேவை மற்றும் கல்வி பணிக்காக, ஆண்டுதோறும் "நல்லாசிரியர்' விருது வழங்கப்படுகிறது. இதை 7 ஆண்டுகளாக கிழக்கு ஒன்றியத்துக்குட்பட்ட பள்ளி ஆசிரியர்கள் தொடர்ந்து பெற்று வருகின்றனர்.இந்தாண்டு, நரசிங்கம் சி.எஸ்.ஐ., தொடக்க பள்ளி தலைமையாசிரியர் ஜான்குணசேகர பாண்டியன் பெற்றார். 2010-11ல், ரங்கநாயகி (சிட்டம்பட்டி நடுநிலை பள்ளி), சாந்திக்கு (அப்பர் தொடக்க பள்ளி) கிடைத்தது. 2009-2010ல், சந்திரன் (ஊராட்சி ஒன்றிய நடுநிலை பள்ளி, கபீர்நகர்), முத்துலட்சுமி (ஆர்.சி.நடுநிலைப்பள்ளி), செல்வராஜ்(தேசிய நல்லாசிரியர் விருது) பெற்றனர். 2008-2009ல், தாமரைச்செல்வி (ஊராட்சி ஒன்றிய நடுநிலை பள்ளி, குன்னத்தூர்) பெற்றார். 2007-2008ல், ஜெயபால் (கபீர் நகர் பள்ளி), 2006-2007ல், ஜெயபிரகாஷ் நாராயணன் (வடக்கு சக்குடி பள்ளி), ராமு (உலகனேரி பள்ளி), சுப்பிரமணியன் (மாநகராட்சி பள்ளி, சாத்தமங்கலம்) பெற்றனர். 2005-2006ல், பாண்டி (ஒத்தக்கடை, தலைமையாசிரியர்) என, கிழக்கு ஒன்றியத்துக்குட்பட்ட ஆசிரியர்கள் தொடர்ந்து "நல்லாசிரியர்' விருதுகளை பெற்று சாதனை படைத்து வருகின்றனர்.

http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/dinamalar/Latest_News/~3/xGIr-18u3B8/News_Detail.asp

kvijayasundaram
September 13th, 2012, 05:32 AM
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/industry-and-economy/info-tech/article3885894.ece

Accenture and Wipro have come back with a vengeance to recruit from campuses. They compensated for the lacklustre hiring from the usual mass recruiter Cognizant Technology Solutions at VIT University, Vellore, which annually churns out nearly 3,000 graduates.

On day one of the campus recruitment on Monday at VIT, about 120 km west of Chennai, Accenture made 1,492 job offers to students as against just 90 last year. Media reports say that for the global software major, out of its 2.50 lakh global employee base, nearly one-third is in India.

Similarly, Wipro made 1,308 job offers this year compared to just 130 last year.

In contrast, Cognizant’s numbers declined by more than half to 803 as against 1,920 offers last year, according to the university. Tata Consultancy Services did not visit the university for the last two years. Infosys is also not visiting this year, said university sources. It is reliably learnt that at Sastra University in Thanjavur in south Tamil Nadu, on day one of the campus recruitment, TCS made offers to 863 students. Last year, the company created a record by recruiting 1,755 students from this university.

‘FEELING THE HEAT’

VIT’s Vice-President G. V. Sampath said that despite the bad market conditions, the institution was able to place students with companies. In a recession-like scenario, every company wants to cut 50 per cent in recruitment and institutions are feeling the heat, he told Business Line.

Samuel Rajkumar, Deputy Director of the university’s placement cell, said Flipkart had offered an annual pay package of Rs 12.5 lakh while D.E. Shaw, a software company, which is yet to conduct its recruitment drive, has offered Rs 14.5 lakh.

A total of 55 companies have conducted placement drives. Rajkumar said that every year 150 to 160 companies visit the university. “Last year, 188 companies came and we are trying to get as many this year. In fact, last year our placement accounted for 95 per cent placing 3,007 students. The overall numbers this year could be due to the slowdown,” he said.

kannan infratech
September 13th, 2012, 08:48 AM
KVS

Do not try to read too much or expect much from these Campus recruitment.

kvijayasundaram
September 14th, 2012, 04:11 AM
^^ Kannan, Why do you say so? Getting MNCs and national biggies to offer 3K jobs in 3 days is no mean Feat. I am yet to see any outside-state private universities reaching this level of VIT or Sastra. I mean.. the sheer number of job offers pouring in like this, however smaller the compensations are compared to IITs and IIMs.

madurakarenda
September 16th, 2012, 07:56 AM
KVS

Do not try to read too much or expect much from these Campus recruitment.

+1.

Most of the pooled recruitment kind of things don't end up in jobs (even in small scale companies). And some of those selected by even MNCs are not called for jobs. I saw a good number of such people.

kannan infratech
September 17th, 2012, 01:55 PM
I was really surprised by this Project report submitted by a Matric school girl from Chennai.

DAIRY FARMS

http://www.indiastudychannel.com/attachments/Resources/150539-31841-Copy-of-Dairy-Farms.docx

robertashok
September 18th, 2012, 10:16 AM
I was really surprised by this Project report submitted by a Matric school girl from Chennai.

DAIRY FARMS

http://www.indiastudychannel.com/attachments/Resources/150539-31841-Copy-of-Dairy-Farms.docx

Way To go. Outstanding.

kvijayasundaram
September 24th, 2012, 03:24 AM
http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/chennai/placement-begins-on-a-low-in-chennai-colleges/article3927191.ece

With IT companies recruiting merely 50 per cent of aspirants at placement drives, the season looks very bleak for final-year engineering students.

Campus recruitment at colleges in and around the city began early this week. The two major recruiters, as usual, were TCS and Cognizant. TCS roped in students from SRM University, Rajalakshmi Engineering College and RMK Engineering College. “Except at SRM, the company recruited just 200 students from the other two colleges. Last year, it recruited over 450 from these campuses,” said a placement director.

At SRM, TCS recruited 858 students as compared to 1,231 last year. “TCS, as a matter of policy, does not share slots, while Cognizant has been sharing first day slots with Capgemini and Wipro this year. We have to look for at least six more companies to get our students placed,” said a placement officer of a private college.

Earlier this week, Cognizant recruited students from St. Joseph’s College of Engineering and Panimalar Engineering College but the numbers, again, were much lesser than last year. While some colleges are worried over fewer offers, many others, with no accreditation from companies, have not received any intimation of slots.

“While the top 15 colleges can expect 85 per cent placement, the lesser-known ones find it difficult to place even 40 per cent of the students,” said the principal of a college in Ramapuram.

Students say the pattern of aptitude tests, too, has changed. “We prepared for the regular format comprising questions on time and distance, and probability among others. Instead, we got puzzles, sudoko, crossword, twisters, mind teasers and analytical questions,” a student said. The interviews too, he said, had three panellists instead of one.

Prior to the placement drive in Chennai, TCS recruited 862 students from Sastra University as compared to 1,755 last year, and 300 from Thiagarajar College of Engineering, as opposed to 702 last year.

At VIT University, Accenture recruited 1,492 students and Wipro, 1308 students. Cognizant which took in 1,820 students last year, recruited 803 students this year. Accenture has not recruited students from city colleges so far.

Companies, however, maintained that their recruitment process was on track.

Thangaselvan
October 4th, 2012, 04:31 AM
அடுத்த 6 மாதங்களில் நாட்டில் உள்ள அனைத்துப் பள்ளிகளிலும் குடிநீர், கழிவறை வசதியை ஏற்படுத்தித் தர வேண்டுமென மத்திய, மாநில அரசுகளுக்கு உச்ச நீதிமன்றம் உத்தரவு பிறப்பித்துள்ளது.

English: All schools should provide drinking water and toilet facilities within next six months -Supreme Court.

robertashok
October 4th, 2012, 05:17 AM
அடுத்த 6 மாதங்களில் நாட்டில் உள்ள அனைத்துப் பள்ளிகளிலும் குடிநீர், கழிவறை வசதியை ஏற்படுத்தித் தர வேண்டுமென மத்திய, மாநில அரசுகளுக்கு உச்ச நீதிமன்றம் உத்தரவு பிறப்பித்துள்ளது.

English: All schools should provide drinking water and toilet facilities within next six months -Supreme Court.

From the Bottom of my heart, I salute this.

murlee
October 4th, 2012, 09:06 AM
Corporation all set to increase English medium sections


The recent admission process to Chennai schools has turned out to be a revelation about the aspirations of parents in a rapidly changing society. The opening of 30 extra English medium sections in schools run by the Chennai Corporation, and the admission trends that have emerged seem to be an indicator for the public education sector in coming years.

The Corporation Council had approved the setting up 30 English medium sections in schools spread out across the city. These sections were to add to the 69 sections already functioning for the past three years. Around 2100 students were already enrolled in these 69 sections, and this year has seen a further 600 admitted.

Corporation officials say parents have been queuing up to get their children admitted to the English medium sections, after shelving their plans to send their children to private English medium schools.

The opening of English medium sections had been envisaged by the previous administration in 2009, as a way to boost sagging enrolment numbers in Corporation-run schools. The sections had been the first ever English medium sections in schools run directly by the Tamil Nadu government or by one of its arms.

Demand unmistakeable

“Interest has been high among parents. The feedback we have received also indicates that many parents would prefer to send their children to government-run schools over private schools. But there was an impediment with the medium of instruction,” says a Corporation official.

“Many councillors have sent letters thanking the Corporation administration for setting up English medium sections in their wards. Many other councillors have also given letters asking for English medium sections in schools in their wards. It is up to the top brass to decide whether more sections are going to be opened in the next academic year,” the official added.

If more of these sections are to be opened, an announcement to the effect may be expected around March 2013, and admissions may be expected to commence in June. But, there is a lot to be done before any further expansion is possible, the official pointed out. Around 50 teachers who are already working in Corporation schools, and who have majored in English, are currently being trained to handle these English medium sections. They are being given training in phonetics, language and functional grammar. More teachers would have to be trained in advance if the Corporation decides to open more English medium sections, the official said.

Roaring response in South Chennai

The 99 English medium sections that are currently functioning in Corporation-run Chennai schools have currently been distributed keeping the demand in mind. This has meant a higher concentration, as well as response, of these sections in the southern and central regions of the city. Response has been markedly lower in the northern parts according to the civic body’s statistics.

Of the 30 new English medium sections that have been opened by the Corporation, eight are in North Chennai, nine in Central Chennai and 13 in South Chennai. While the North and Central regions have seen 106 and 128 admissions respectively, the South is ahead with 375 admissions.

“There are some localities, like Jafferkhanpet, where we opened English medium sections in two schools. We were still unable to meet the demand in that area,” says an official.“But under no circumstances are we forcing it on any school, teacher, parent or students. Only those who want their children to study in English medium sections are approaching us,” the officials adds.


http://ibnlive.in.com/news/corporation-all-set-to-increase-english-medium-sections/297310-60-120.html

karkal
October 4th, 2012, 09:21 AM
Corporation all set to increase English medium sections




http://ibnlive.in.com/news/corporation-all-set-to-increase-english-medium-sections/297310-60-120.html

Good Initiative. They should open English medium sections in all corporations schools across the state.

jayak914
October 6th, 2012, 06:15 PM
Honble Chief Minister inaugurated Engineering Colleges affiliated to Anna University at Theni, Cuddalore and Thanjavur and new buildings of the Higher Education Department through Video Conferencing

http://www.tn.gov.in/seithi_veliyeedu/pr05Sep12/pr050912k.jpg


Honble Chief Minister inaugurated the newly built school buildings, laboratories, offices and other buildings of the School Education Department through Video Conferencing

http://www.tn.gov.in/seithi_veliyeedu/pr05Sep12/pr050912l.jpg


Honble Chief Minister inaugurated colleges at 11 locations through video conference

http://www.tn.gov.in/seithi_veliyeedu/pr11Aug12/pr110812k.jpg

venkyinblr
October 8th, 2012, 07:03 AM
CHENNAI: With campus placements turning weak, more students are opting for post graduate (PG) studies. Colleges have seen a 10% to 40% increase in applications for post graduate courses this year.

With the economic slowdown taking a toll globally and sentiment falling domestically, companies are going slow on campus recruitments. Consequently, students who are graduating want to use this time to equip themselves with more qualifications.

"The trend started in 2009 because of the weak job market then. Year-on-year, we are seeing a 5%-10% increase in the number of applications. All the programmes are full. That was not the case earlier," said S Vaidhyasubramaniam, dean - planning & development of SASTRA University in Thanjavur. "The demand has increased for PhD programmes, especially in life sciences. We received more than 800 applications for 15 PhD seats."

At Manipal University, there has been a 15%-20% increase over the last year for PG admissions, said Chetana Bekal, management executive, Manipal University. "The increase is significant in MTech and more surprisingly in MSc. Many MSc students are looking to get into teaching," she said. At SRM University in Chennai, the number of applications has increased by around 10% said S Ganapathy, dean of placement. He said that the situation was the same in other universities too.

There is also considerable increase in the number of people applying for competitive examinations like Graduate Aptitude Test in Engineering (GATE), which are the qualifying examinations for PG studies. "I clear GATE applications and I have seen an increase of almost 40% in the number of applications," said M A Maluk Mohamed, principal at M A M College of Engineering, Trichy. "Many public sector firms like BHEL accept GATE scores for recruitment. So, it helps students in that regard too." "Such trends are seen during economic slowdown. It's not only students. Even executives will look to add to their skills in this period," said E Balaji, CEO of Randstad India, an HR consultancy firm.

This influx has both positive and negative aspects, says experts. While it is for genuine addition of skills in many cases, it is only to decorate the resume in others. "Increasing enrolment for PG is not unusual in times of recession. However, the challenge lies in attracting brighter students to PG studies. If quality increases, it would do a lot of good to the academic system," said Vaidhyasubramaniam.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chennai/Jobs-hard-to-come-by-students-opt-for-PG/articleshow/16718903.cms

venkyinblr
October 11th, 2012, 03:17 PM
The Top Indian university to present in the World University Rankings 2012-2013 is IIT Kharagpur.

It Ranks number 250 in the Global list(oops).Given the Rankings being Neutral and highly accepted, Where are we in the Global map of Education?.Do we Need KFC's ,Burberry and BMW's to be the yard stick of Development in India.?

Wake up Please.......

kongutamizhan
October 11th, 2012, 06:13 PM
Banks refusing to accept applications for education loan.

Source (http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Coimbatore/banks-refusing-to-accept-applications-for-education-loan/article3980762.ece)

Indha ooru kaara payaluva ellam padichi enna panna poranga. Vela vetti kidaikaatha, power illatha oorula gevermentu kudukkura aadu/maadu meichi kaalam thalla MBA edhukkunu ninaichirupaangalo? :)

TShyam
October 12th, 2012, 08:17 AM
Yep, too many moochers in TN waiting for govt handout. Useless people.

karkal
October 12th, 2012, 06:15 PM
Nobel laureate studies shrimp to map immune system (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chennai/Nobel-laureate-studies-shrimp-to-map-immune-system/articleshow/16776925.cms)

CHENNAI: French Nobel laureate Jules A Hoffmann is pushing for a collaboration with Annamalai University to study viral infections in shrimp to understand the human immune system.

Professor Hoffmann of Strasbourg University in France, whose decades-long work on the fruit fly revolutionised the study of the human immune system, has evinced keen interest in studying viral infections in shrimp and identified it as an important research area for joint Indo-France collaboration.

"There are a lot of parallels between the study being undertaken by Annamalai University and the research we did on fruit flies. Since we have experience in this area, we can jointly work with the University to identify constituents of other organisms and gain insights into how the human immune system works," said Hoffman.

Hoffman, along with Professor Bruce A Beutler, was awarded the Nobel prize in physiology or medicine in 2011 for the discovery of the key principles for the activation of the immune system. The duo discovered receptor proteins that can recognise microorganisms and activate innate immunity which can destroy invading micro organisms. This discovery has made possible the development of new methods for preventing and treating diseases.

The Nobel laureate, who was in the city to participate in the 25 years of celebration of Indo-French Centre for Promotion of Advanced Research (IFCPAR), on Thursday delivered a lecture on 'Antimicrobial Defence of Drosophila: A Paradigm for Innate Immunity From Flies to Humans' at Anna University.

Hoffmann also stressed on the need to study infectious diseases and expressed the hope that there would be cures for all kinds of diseases, including HIV and cancer, in the next 10 years.

"When I began my research we lacked enough resources and infrastructure which frequently impeded our study. With advancement in technology over the last decade, we should be able to find cures for all kinds of infectious diseases in the next 10 years or so," he said.

Praising the progress India had made in the scientific sector, Prof Hoffman said future collaborations with the country could not be ruled out.

Prabhaharan
October 14th, 2012, 04:10 AM
Tender calleds for Tamilnadu Fishries at Nagapattinam and institute at Ponneri. . .