This super tower really needs an official thread.At 245m it will be one of the talelst skyscrapers in Australia on completion in 2006/7.
Ive scanned the B&W faxes but im getting colour renders mailed soon.
The architect who designed Q1 & Circle on Cavill left Sunland recently and 'defected" to DBI design and help design SOUL!! Its a fab looking design. It has 8 blades that rise above roof line on the upper penthouses. Not sure of towers COLOUR scheme? maybe blues and whites?
It is a curved floor plate measuring only 50m wide x 32m deep. (Q1 measures 51mx38m).AT 251mRL is only 30m lower than Q1s fin!

http://img52.photobucket.com/albums/v158/culwulla/soulfromnorth.jpg

It is a massive site facing Cavill Mall and set way back adjacent to 80m Zenith next door.
The rear elavation> (pog checkout how blades go higher than 246m mark).

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid122/p64d39d9c70d69827a5b9d8bec4fdc2ff/f84346f6.jpg

skyline with Q1 to far left and Circle behind.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid122/p7dea02e6e803b57a477dff2f04202d2e/f84342df.jpg

view from mall. Its going to look superb from there!
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid122/pc88ea450825bba6b163ca2b275186f87/f84339e4.jpg

North elevation. so slender. At 32m wide and 245m tall, its height/width ratio is 10.2 -1 which qualifies as a super tall! anything over 10 to 1 is fantastic!

http://img52.photobucket.com/albums/v158/culwulla/soulnorthelevation.jpg

floor plans>
typical floor plate measures 50mx 32m.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid122/p0a5f32fdedc7dd12cf5fb717a3f41876/f843351e.jpg

city location plan with others. I coloured towers in to show ocations ect.
The adjacent twin towers that Raptis are planning also look nifty. the taller one measures approx 170m!

http://img52.photobucket.com/albums/v158/culwulla/soulcityplan.jpg

OMG WOW! That design looks so excellent! Can't wait to see it in colour!! :D

Hearing speculation about a 70 storey tower is one thing...but to actually see the renderings and realise the size of this beauty and its impact on the skyline is incredible!

And Juniper rocks! Their developments are always really good looking, so can't wait to see this one under construction! :okay:

Thanks for posting these Cul.

Tough to tell what it's going to look like from BW renders but shape looks promising. Looks massive and i like the view from the rear. Can't believe how close it is to the beach,though.

Interesting diagram showing proposed/UC buildings in central surfers too. I wonder which of those will go ahead next. Any Ideas for the Meriton one? Maybe they're too busy with Shores to start on this one?

Thanks for posting these Cul.

Tough to tell what it's going to look like from BW renders but shape looks promising. Looks massive and i like the view from the rear. Can't believe how close it is to the beach,though.

Interesting diagram showing proposed/UC buildings in central surfers too. I wonder which of those will go ahead next. Any Ideas for the Meriton one? Maybe they're too busy with Shores to start on this one?
The twin Dophin towers will start this year! raptis are eager for this project.
Also Meriton have employed wonder -boy BOB NATION to design there 50storey tower. Should commence soon.

OMG WOW! That design looks so excellent! Can't wait to see it in colour!! :D

Hearing speculation about a 70 storey tower is one thing...but to actually see the renderings and realise the size of this beauty and its impact on the skyline is incredible!

And Juniper rocks! Their developments are always really good looking, so can't wait to see this one under construction! :okay:

COLOURS!!!
The external colour palette features blue glazing, charcoal recesses, white balustrading and vertical columns and silver blades in alpolic.

This looks like a beautifull tower!! It's amazing that the Gold Coast has so much development taking place when it only has 500,000 people. I think the GC skyline will be famous in the future - move over Sydney;) - Joke.

I just can't believe it?

Q1 won't stick out now thats for sure. All those comments about it "sticking out like dogs balls" should now be well and truly quashed. This will make GC look spectacular.

jt

Hey, Sydney may well and truly have to "move over" in the future, especially when you think about the GC's liberal planning policies vs Sydney's restrictive ones. However, nothing will ever touch Sydney for density.

Hopefully Brisbane might one day.

The shape doesn't look too bad, but I'll reserve judgement until I see a full colour render. I'm not sure if I like it being so close to the beach though, it would have been better if it was a few streets back, with smaller towers cascading to the beach.

You know it would be very tempting to move to GC now.

1. Its less than an hour from Brisbane
2. On a planners salary I could rent a two bedroom in a highrise with magical views - its older style apartments are still cheaper than Brisbane!!!
3. Its getting a spectacular skyline - OK so it already has one but its getting better.
4. GCCC is crying out for Urban Planners so getting a job could be easy, there are also lots of private planning firms on the Coast.
5. Its closer to my favorite beach - Byron.
6. It has Australia's fastest growing gay and lesbian community - its now 4th in Australia after Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane.
7. I'd still be in the greater SEQ metro area.

A Very Tempting thought indeed.

jt

But when you think about it brizzychris it wont make much difference as shorter towers will still cast a significant shadow over the beach. SOUL's shadow just extends out further over the ocean where it wont effect anyone except maybe the fishes.
Also it will be extra-spectacular looking up at this beauty from the beach! And the apartments beachfront views will be a major selling point for this project.

You know it would be very tempting to move to GC now.

6. It has Australia's fastest growing gay and lesbian community - its now 4th in Australia after Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane.
jt



I'd hardly call MP's a good night club.
What else is there down there??? The Spit ? :jk:

I'd hardly call MP's a good night club.
What else is there down there??? The Spit ? :jk:

Last time I looked there were 9, including a couple of saunas - but this is off the topic. All I know is it is alot better than when I used to go down a few years ago. It is becoming a proper city in many ways, though many would argue againsed this.

Soul looks fantastic and with all these interesting designes on the skyline I wouldn't be surprized if GC wasn't catapulted into the world stage in some way.

Celebs are already discovering it.

jt

This is what I was referring to in that other thread last weekend.

Cheers for the info Cul, it's an amazing development. GCCC certainly did the right thing knocking back a proposal for two shorter towers.

The arguments of a couple NIMBY's ("The shadow will go further out to sea") just don't cut it. Surfers Paradise may earn a reputation as a place where you can go out and have a surf at 3pm and not get sunburt ;)

So much for Q1 sticking out like a sore thumb. When it comes to quality scrapers, the Gold Coast is rapidly becoming "The Coast with the Most".

I thought shadows and shading would be a good thing up here in the semi-tropix.

Any colour renders Culwulla? :)

And Juniper rocks! Their developments are always really good looking, so can't wait to see this one under construction! :okay:Great point. This is a big step up from their usual boutique towers. If this is a succes we could see a string of quality talls.

view of site from Paradise centre
http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/9401/101629401mm1086767913.jpg

A closer shot taken last October. Based on Culwulla's map the tower will be on the Esplanade adjacent to the building in the top left of this photo.

http://members.optusnet.com.au/johnthay1/oct03soul.JPG

wow thats it duke! the blddg to left is the 80m/24st ZENITH! i stayed there 5 years ago!lol just looking at pic, i can honestly say the Raptis Plaza wont be missed! hehe

Queries regarding Soul may be directed to Haley Bond at Sean Juniper's Office. She can be contacted on h.bond@juniper.com.au or 5444 8765.

That looks awesome in elevation hopefully it does get built. Mind you in the Gold coast everything gets approved!

There's a colour diagram of Soul on SSP.com now.
http://www.skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=30037
The colour (essentially gold) doesn't seem to correspong to Culwulla's description though.

ive just emailed the illustrator saying how the diagrams are excellent BUT many errors with various heights and Soul wont be gold!
heres architects description>
The external colour palette features blue glazing, charcoal recesses, white balustrading and vertical columns and silver blades in alpolic.

Here's a shot of the site. McDonalds and O'malleys will be demolished with the tower situated back near the Zenith Tower you can see in this pic.

http://img36.photobucket.com/albums/v108/n4214439/zenith.jpg

Actually the site with mcdonalds and O'malleys will not be touched by juniper, raptis plaza wrapps around that entire corner site which I believe is owned by devine. I doubt it will ever be redeveloped though, it sure needs a good makover...

Actually the site with mcdonalds and O'malleys will not be touched by juniper, raptis plaza wrapps around that entire corner site which I believe is owned by devine. I doubt it will ever be redeveloped though, it sure needs a good makover...
Are you sure about that?
I was under the impression the entire corner was being redeveloped. There was talk 6 months ago that the pub would be closed for a while.

Are you sure about that?
I was under the impression the entire corner was being redeveloped. There was talk 6 months ago that the pub would be closed for a while.

Im pretty much certain that the development does not include that corner site. Junipers only own the site with raptis plaza on it, which is seperate from the mcdonalds site. That site was bought by devine earlier this year. Also I have seen the plans for Soul, and the mcdonalds site is not included in their development, Only raptis plaza building, plus the empty block of land just north of it. The Soul mall will front cavill ave and the esplanade along the sections where raptis plaza currently does.

My understanding is that David Devine's personal company owns the corner site with Macca's etc. I've always thought that this was a strategic purchase in the expectation of redevelopment of this prime area. Perhaps he will do a deal with Juniper if Juniper want/need the corner badly enough.

Yep, I remember now. David Devine bought it.
I swear I read somewhere that building would be redeveloped as well.

Maybe not.
cheers

Yeh. Raptis Plaza does go around that corner site. That Maccas pays the highest rent on the coast and one of the highest rents in the country. I think O'Malleys was close to going broke a while ago and that may have been what they were talking about.

But thank God they're finally going to renovate Raptis Plaza. It's currently a eyesore in Surfers.

almost 3 months since last post!!! must be something new to know about this... a new pic at least!

i spoke with GCCC planner last week about its progress. it was actually going to a council meeting to talk about it. there seems to be some issues about overshadowing & impending traffic snarls.

i spoke with GCCC planner last week about its progress. it was actually going to a council meeting to talk about it. there seems to be some issues about overshadowing & impending traffic snarls.
lol @ traffic snarls.

If they want to solve that problem, start cracking down on all the losers out there doing "blockies". Traffic is shit along there at the best of times thanks to these numb nuts losers with nothing better to do than laps of Surfers.

From the Bulletin...

Shadow shrouds new tall tower
20Oct04

A GIANT tower proposed for Surfers Paradise will cast its 72-storey shadow on tourists swimming at the region's most popular beach.

The Juniper development, if approved by the Gold Coast City Council, will tower over all buildings on the Coast skyline, except Q1.

The controversial tower, to be built alongside Raptis Plaza, was unveiled behind closed doors to councillors yesterday, raising concerns because its pencil-like shadow would creep on to the surf.

Surfers Paradise councillor Susie Douglas will request hourly projections of shadow movement before voting on the development.

"We have got to be measured and very careful about this one," she said. "I thought Q1 was going to be the only supertower so it would be iconic. "If we have them all over the place, it really loses that."

Councillors were yesterday told the Juniper project would involve the rejuvenation of Raptis Plaza.

Under the proposal, half of the centre would be reconstructed, with the remaining half given a new facade.

Father-and-son team Graeme and Shaun Juniper paid $33 million for the site in 2002.

Juniper Developments, responsible for a number of large developments on the Queensland and northern NSW coast, refused to comment yesterday.

It is understood the company has presented a second proposal, involving two shorter towers, to council.

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Hmmm....hope it gets through. If it does then I'd bet that it would sell like hotcakes...beachfront, right in the centre of town, quality developer, only 4 apartments per floor. This would be one brilliant development. Go son!

pfffttt @ 2 short towers

You'd think in the skin cancer capital of the world they'd appreciate a little free shade in the afternoon. As for 'iconic', give me a break, no one needs the phallic q1 to stick out too much. It needs company, i think we all must agree.

I think alot of people will be happy if the beach gets a little shade. I for one burn easily and when I go to the beach I often have to walk miles just for a piddly bit of casuareena shade - like a branch or something.

As a palm lover I think they should just go in and plant as many palms as possible but until then a tall buildings shade will suffice - lets hope.

jt

And there's no Suntan Man anymore so all the more reason for a little shade on the beach. In the way of trees there are heaps better for shade than scraggly palms, in fact anything - like Terminalia for example.

But anyway what's one more shadow on the beach going to matter
http://home.iprimus.com.au/budmartin/frank/Pics/Gold%20coast.jpg

These kind of designs come once every 10 years!

shadows again! bloody hell.
i wonder heights of smaller towers?
there probably tall anyway.-150m?

Surely Council couldn't have been so dumb as to think that approving Q1 wasn't going to open the Pandoras box to other developments.

As for the shadows, I know that when I go to the beach I like to go mid morning and only stay till just after lunch cos it gets to hot, the shadows would be a welcome break in my opinion. Maybe we should chop all the Pine trees down at Burleigh Heads because of the shadows they cast on the beach in the afternoon?

had a chat to the town planner involved with the Soul DA. He said we will find out next week if Soul will be approved at its current height. The shadow issue is causing many problems with new DA;s. Also they (planners/councillors) didnt think that Q1 would set a precident for supertalls beacuse of the size of the block of land required for FSR to build an 80storey tower. but there are some blocks which can accomodate one and Raptis plaza is one of them. If it does get refused, then it wil definatley go to court.
Appaarently Juniper arent keen on submitting the lower proposal.

had a chat to the town planner involved with the Soul DA. He said we will find out next week if Soul will be approved at its current height. The shadow issue is causing many problems with new DA;s. Also they (planners/councillors) didnt think that Q1 would set a precident for supertalls beacuse of the size of the block of land required for FSR to build an 80storey tower. but there are some blocks which can accomodate one and Raptis plaza is one of them. If it does get refused, then it wil definatley go to court.
Appaarently Juniper arent keen on submitting the lower proposal.

Council want Q1 to be the southern end of the "Super Talls" area and somewhere around Cypress Avenue to be the northern end.

should find out anyday now about Souls outcome at council.

should find out anyday now about Souls outcome at council.

Well I hope this project does get to go ahead, It would certainlly be interesting to watch its progress as you dont get big developments like Soul Tower everyday.

yes, well at the moment we have Q1 and 219m/70st Circle on cavil going up, so its in good company.

BIG NEWS FROM GC BULLETIN!
SOUL IS APPROVED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[The 72-storey residential tower, named Soul, will be built by Australia's largest privately-owned developer, Juniper, at an anticipated cost of $675 million.

Final approval is expected to be made on Monday, with construction set to begin late next year.]

cool. good news for gc n seq

CASA has restricted height at RL246m or 240m above ground! also its down from 73 to 72 storeys. 303 units.
amazing stuff!

BIG NEWS FROM GC BULLETIN!
SOUL IS APPROVED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow that is awesome news, Gold Coast's skyline is going to look incredible!

From the Courier-Mail Webstie.
http://www.couriermail.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,11195483%255E3102,00.html

GO ahead . . . the proposed Surfers Paradise tower.


Approved tower has it made in the shade
Jeff Sommerfeld, property editor
27oct04
CONCERNS about shadows across the beach have not stopped the Gold Coast City Council from approving a $675 million mega-tower for Surfers Paradise.



Sunshine Coast developer Juniper yesterday received approval from the Gold Coast City Council's Development and Planning Committee for its 72-storey Soul Surfers Paradise residential project which will eventually tower at almost 240m above sea level.

The plans will be presented to a full council meeting for final approval on Monday.

Soul will only be eight levels shorter than Sunland Group's 80-storey Q1 (328m above sea level) currently under construction in Surfers Paradise, which will be the world's tallest residential tower on completion in August 2005.

Gold Coast Mayor Ron Clarke yesterday accepted the new tower would cast a shadow across the beach, but said alternative proposals would have cast greater shadows.

"Our officers and the applicants examined a whole series of digitalised images of the shadows cast – this seems to be the best result with a much thinner lined building," Cr Clarke said.

The new tower is most likely to put the beach in shade from 2pm onwards during summer and from 1pm during winter. Cr Clarke said often during summer "the shadow is often welcome on the beach from 2pm onwards".

"The other ingredients of the building are excellent – a lot of open space and only 40 per cent of the site is occupied. It's a very attractive proposal," he said.

The 303-apartment mega-tower will be built on the existing Raptis Plaza building site and adjoining vacant land on the beachfront corner of Cavill Mall and The Esplanade.

thanks for that rum! they still got heights confused. it says "almost 240m above sea level" .That should read above street level.
anyweay.

fuck me it never ends does it? The Gold Coast is absolutely unbelievable, well and truly on its way to becoming one of the greatest skylines in the world..

Blue is my favourite colour.

http://server4.vnpages.net/~one/gc/soul_render.jpg

thanks defec. yes it has a blue tinge to it. i can see the top vertical blades have been deleted from top. looks cool still.

I dont understand why CASA would bother with 5m restriction, seems like a ridiculous and unnecessary use of power. They let Q1 get away at 322.5m! I know 5m doesnt seem like much, but thats the point! What were these dickheads taking?!

Exactly what I was thinking pog. Bullshit. But I guess those CASA slackers have to look like they're actually working.

I think Coolangatta needs a new councilor!

From the GC Bulletin

THE sky's the limit overlooking Surfers Paradise beach.

Gold Coast City Council yesterday shrugged off concerns over height and shadow to approve a 72-storey residential skyscraper overlooking the beach.

Council officers urged approval of the $675 million project, marked for the Raptis Plaza site, warning councillors that the town plan did not specify height restrictions in the foreshore area.

Developer Juniper pledged to bring new life to the tired and flagging foreshore with its 303-apartment residential tower, named Soul Surfers Paradise.

However, the controversial development immediately raised concerns because its pencil-like shadow would creep on to the patrolled area of Australia's most famous beach.

Coolangatta councillor Sue Robbins vehemently opposed the development, describing its approval as a 'travesty'.

"You go to the beach to swim in sunshine, you don't want to swim in constant shade," she said.

"If we're not very, very careful in this city, that's all we're going to end up with in Surfers Paradise."

Councillors viewed shadow projections which revealed the building's shadow would encroach on the patrolled area of sand for a couple of hours a day at various times of the year.

However, Juniper architect Barry Lee said the shadow effect of a variety of different designs had been investigated, and the narrow tower option had the least impact.

"A single, narrower, taller tower produced much less shadow on patrolled beach than three smaller towers would," he said.

Cr Robbins suggested the council's local area plan be reviewed as it allowed unlimited height in the foreshore area, although she sat on the planning review committee last year.

"We discussed shadow and I felt that at the time the shadow code had enough teeth but obviously it doesn't," she said. "I can't know every area of the city as well as I know my own division."

Defending the height, Mr Lee said high towers were the way of the future, highlighting buildings such as Q1 and Circle on Cavill.

"That traditional Gold Coast skyline, raising in Broadbeach and Surfers Paradise, is taking a quantum leap," he said.

As well as a revamped retail, restaurant and streetscaping precinct encompassing the Raptis Plaza, Juniper will also provide new public toilets, changing rooms and a lifeguard service storage facility. It will open up the foreshore and create a pedestrian zone on The Esplanade.

Joint managing director Graeme Juniper said Soul would create a new image for Surfers Paradise which was 'very much' in need of change.

"We want the locals of the Gold Coast to come back to central Surfers Paradise," he said.

Mr Juniper and son Shaun paid $33 million for the site in 2002.

An alternative proposal, involving two shorter towers, was rejected earlier this year.

Eddy Sarroff and Grant Pforr were the only other councillors to vote against the project, with Cr Sarroff expressing concern the development would have a detrimental impact on the area.

If approved by the council on Monday, Soul will tower over all buildings on the Gold Coast skyline, bar Q1.

The GC Bulletins editorial.....


What the Bulletin thinks
27Oct04


THE unspoken competition to see who can build the tallest and most impressive building on the Gold Coast is by no means over.

The Gold Coast City Council approval of the Juniper Developments proposal for a 72-storey building in Surfers Paradise symbolises another dramatic stage in Gold Coast history and gives notice that the iconic Q1 soon to be 80 storeys and the tallest building in Queensland is not the final chapter in high- rise development.

It also shows that the Gold Coast's thirst for building is far from satisfied even though there are signs in most metropolitan cities that the boom of the past two years is over.

The Gold Coast appears to be taking on a Shanghai-like culture, albeit on a much smaller scale, that defies the boom-bust mentality.

Indeed, the Gold Coast's property market is showing signs of individualism that have not been apparent in its history.

Up until a couple of years ago, the city was a slave to the influences of the real estate markets in Sydney, Melbourne and, to a lesser extent, Brisbane. When they rose or fell, the Gold Coast was never far behind.

That appeared to change during the recent boom. It was as if the Gold Coast awoke from a long real estate sleep and went its own way.

There has been some easing in the market, giving some hope to potential first home buyers who were excluded from home ownership by soaring prices.

Now at least they have an opportunity to buy at reasonable prices in some suburbs.

However, against national trends, prices still are bubbling along in seaside areas and in some of the more prestigious suburbs.

The difference between the Gold Coast and most other cities is the steady, strong growth of its population.

This city has to accommodate the equivalent of a medium-sized town's population every year and that is why development stagnation is not an option.

So in a sense, the Gold Coast has changed from follower to leader in property trends in Australia. We should not be surprised if the skyline continues to change along the coast and the suburbs continue to spread, even while other cities go into decline.

Yeah. The entire GCCC should be sacked. The Mayor is a drongo who has fallen from grace with all the election promises he made.
The council is controlled by the existing, 'non-existant' developer backed voting bloc (Including the mayor). There are 3 opposition councillors. But they get kicked out every second meeting, or they get thrown off boards, but they get all the publicity. There are then about 3 non-aligned councillors(Who were originally part of the 'bloc').

Sue Robbins is probably one of the craziest of them all.

not a bad render
http://www.propertyreview.com.au/archives/2004/27102004/headline/image/juniper_soul.jpg

neato~

I actually really like the blue

What happened in the Monday Council meeting? Is this one still awaiting the final approval?

its allready approved i thought

^No, it got approval from the planning committee. Yesterday, it went to the full council for approval. I can't find whether Soul got approval or not, but I assume it has, or else the developers would have made some noise.

yep it got fully approved yesterday in council, i believe there were only two councillors against it, and their reasons were they were concerned about shadow, bloody morons, the graphic modelling in the plans makes it quite clear that there is hardly any more shadow impact on the beach than there already is. I hate it when politics is used to defy logic, luckily the majority voted sensibly.

excellent news! one giant finishes next year (Q1) and another starts -SOUL!
i want it in Sydney!

Yeah, I want GC style towers in Sydney too! :)

:cucumber: :cucumber:

yep it got fully approved yesterday in council, i believe there were only two councillors against it, and their reasons were they were concerned about shadow, bloody morons, the graphic modelling in the plans makes it quite clear that there is hardly any more shadow impact on the beach than there already is. I hate it when politics is used to defy logic, luckily the majority voted sensibly.

And bloody Sue Robbins who was leading the charge against Soul, has never been on Surfers beach around the times that the shadows start to move over.

Yeah, I want GC style towers in Sydney too! :)

:cucumber: :cucumber:

lol, the funny thing is you'd NEVER hear a Melburnian say that!

^lol. So, so true

Congratulations GC, everytime I think us Brisbanites are catching up a little bit, you take another step forward. Good Tower.

Cr Sue Robbins is dead.

The former chairperson of the Planning Committee(SOUTH) died last night(apparently from a heart attack). She was the strong opponent against SOUL.

Cr Sue Robbins is dead.

The former chairperson of the Planning Committee(SOUTH) died last night(apparently from a heart attack). She was the strong opponent against SOUL.

see what happens when your city has no soul

sudden

she was MURDERED BY THE DEVELOPERS!

she probably died from skin cancer or something... if only there was more shade on the beach when she was growing up ... life is so sad sometimes... when doves cry.

lol.

No, but we all had to listen to our stupid Mayor Ron Clarke go on and on about what a great person she was on the radio. But you must feel for the people in her division, 4 elections in less than a year.

wweeeelllll the thread was cleaned lol.

yes step up from the level it had reached

wweeeelllll the thread was cleaned lol.

lol why have you been brigged blendy boy :rofl:

she was MURDERED BY THE DEVELOPERS!

Funny, it was the developers who funded her re-election this year.

edit : before i get banned too. :sleepy:

the site will launch soon, but great new render.

http://www.soulgc.com.au/

That site says 77 storeys

I love it.

That site says 77 storeys
developers always make it sound taller. it totals 77. theres approx 5 ug.

Will be the best looking tower on the GC (and #1 location too!). Can't wait! :cheers:

wish they would stop that

yes by far te best looking build we have seen in Australia, almost as good as the angel place proposal... and I love the colours.

They say "rising 77 levels", so technically they are lying...:)

LOL u can rise from a hole - technically it might not be wrong!

Obviously alot of us didn't watch the news tonight (Friday night). Channel 9 had a story on the Penthouse in Soul Tower being released as Australia's most expensive Apartment. The price is 16.7 million dollars.

I can tell you right now, it won't sell for more than $13mill. Q1's penthouse sold for just $8.9mill. A bargin in comparison. But, then again, Soul is the best location.

OMG :eek2: :eek2: ....what is the tallest Q1 penthouse?

Weren't they asking $15m for the penthouse in Crystal Tower a while back? Anyway, Soul is a very different development to Q1. For a start it's 303 apartments vs 527 so you can already see the emphasis is on quality and not quantity. The end value is actually higher than that of Q1. Whatever it is, the penthouse will go for a pretty penny.

Well the tower will be almost right on the edge of the beach at Surfers unlike Q1, so it's in a very good location, also almost right in the centre of the action. Has anyone got a picture of what the interior of the apartments will look like?

Yeah, I can understand why it would go on the market for $15-$19mill, It's a 4 storey penthouse! I think they could have gotten $19mill, 6 months ago. As you all know, the housing bubble has burst. It might get up to $15mill. But there's no way it'll get to 19.

Article in the Herald Sun (http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,11721127%255E1702,00.html)

top render
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,3600,403925,00.jpg

Surfers set for $16.75m penthouse

December 17, 2004
AUSTRALIA'S most expensive penthouse will be built 220 metres above Surfers Paradise beach at the summit of an exclusive millionaires-only skyscraper.


Exclusive ... an artist's impression of the 77-storey Soul Tower / AAP


With a price tag of $16.75 million, the sky mansion at the Soul on Surfers Paradise tower is set to eclipse a previous record of $14 million paid by actor Russell Crowe for a penthouse at Woolloomooloo's Finger Wharf in Sydney last year.

"I'm sure if Russell has got $16.75 million spare and wants a beach shack for the weekend we'd love to see him," said joint managing director of Juniper Development Group, Shaun Juniper.

Queensland-based Juniper today unveiled plans for the 77-storey Soul tower which will target the wealthiest end of the real estate market with two and three bedroom apartments starting at $1.05 million and sub penthouses for between $12 million and $14 million each.

Soul will become the second tallest high-rise on the Gold Coast behind the 80-storey Q1 which is set for completion in August next year. The Q1 penthouse sold off the plan to a Japanese restaurateur for $8.9 million.

Soul will be built on prime real estate adjacent to Cavill Mall and within 50 metres of the tourist strip's most popular swimming beach.

The custom designed penthouse has four levels and will feature a rooftop recreation deck and swimming pool.

The developer described the record setting price tag as a bargain compared to similar penthouses that sold for as much as $40 million in New York City.

"We believe that it is more than achievable," said Mr Juniper. "It's extremely cheap, quite frankly."

Work is expected to start on Soul in 2006 with completion in 2008.

The name was chosen because the project represented an opportunity for the developer to revitalise the centre of the Gold Coast.

"We'll bring the heart and soul back," said Mr Juniper. The company reports strong interest in the apartments despite a national decline in real estate sales.

Juniper reports a portfolio of $2 billion worth of projects including the $500 million Sea Temple Chain in North Queensland and a $69 million Sebel resort at Maroochydore on the Sunshine Coast.

Has anyone got a picture of what the interior of the apartments will look like?

No, most of the appartments in SOUL will be custom designed to suit what the buyer wants. i.e. No. of bedrooms, bathrooms, formal and informal living rooms, ect.

No wonder it is being targeted towards the wealthiest end, thats very impressive. But wouldnt there be some kind of restrictions? Unless they havent specified how many apartments they will build. Or will you get a certain space and you decide what you want?

This project keeps getting more impressive by each media release. Not only is it tall, but it will be a real quality one only for the rich! This is a real strong indication of how much surfers has changed from the tacky run down tourist district filled with crappy t-shirt shops that it was only a few years ago. This development will bring in a lot of class to a part of surfers where its really needed, cavill mall.

No wonder it is being targeted towards the wealthiest end, thats very impressive. But wouldnt there be some kind of restrictions? Unless they havent specified how many apartments they will build. Or will you get a certain space and you decide what you want?

You would get a certain space. But I'm sure if you were to buy two or more apartments next to each other, they would arrange it so that you could have 1 big one.

scanned this from last weeks GC Bulliten.
the top 4 floors is a 1 unit "superpenthouse"!
the two guys in pic are legends! Graeme & Shaun Juniper

what a great model. really shows the real elements.design ect. looks unreal.
http://img142.exs.cx/img142/2999/soultowermodel2ga.jpg

I had to copy and paste the link (http://img142.exs.cx/img142/2999/soultowermodel2ga.jpg) to get it to work.

Looks really swish.

Amazing model...i wish I had it. I love the glass on the side near the top.

must be the imageshackus web link? no wonder its free. shit service.

The top and the back of this tower reminds me Gran Hotel Bali in Benidorm sly :sly:
http://img52.photobucket.com/albums/v158/culwulla/soulfromnorth.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v424/Alexandros121/Benidorm065.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v424/Alexandros121/Benidorm075.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid122/p64d39d9c70d69827a5b9d8bec4fdc2ff/f84346f6.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v424/Alexandros121/Benidorm090.jpg

BTW Amazing tower you got there!! :bow:

lol thats interestingly similar. The shape as well as the window styles and the top.

Maybe the architect of Soul was inspired lol

The ad makes it look pretty good.

whens this gonna start??

^ Sometime this year I guess, its in the pre-launch stage atm. It seems Juniper are spending quite a bit on advertising, their tv ad and displace office in cavill mall are pretty cool. There is an awesome poster up in the windows of virtually every real estate office in town, with "Australia's Beachfront icon" soaring above surfers skyling as viewed from the beach with Q1 in the background.

i read the project will commence ealry 2006. I find it weird how it has approval and Juniper can demolish existing premises anytime and start 2005..Maybe they just require some more time.Put units to markets see how they sell? It should be a welcomed addition to skyline after completion of mighty Q and Circle!

Wow. The model from the GC Bulletin is great!!

Lots of glass and sharp white trimming. Nice.

Pity about the salesmen. :D

Amazingly similar in form to the Bali scraper.

LOL @ "Superpenthouse". Very 90s with the supermodel fad. 4 floors....eek!! It will need its own mini-mart 7/11.

I'm sure there are enough white-shoe wannabes for this tower to sell.

another render>>

http://img.domain.com.au/img/6570/2004746518_1_FS.JPG?mod=041230-191910

model base looks superb!!
http://img.domain.com.au/img/6570/2004746518_2_FS.JPG?mod=041230-191912

http://img.domain.com.au/img/6570/2004746520_2_FS.JPG?mod=041230-193039

i just hope these 200m+ towers will brighten the skyline up at night:)

What ever happened to the fourth tower that was going to be built on the Paradise Centre? It was going to be built on the part that was burnt down

What ever happened to the fourth tower that was going to be built on the Paradise Centre? It was going to be built on the part that was burnt down

Hey, I was thinking about that the other day...crazy eh?


Anyways, Apart from TV...these are the only renders I've seen, and evertime I see them I like this building even more. It'll really stand out with those 2 "sections" from most of those generic GC scrapers. :D

When do they expect to start?

Starting to advertise. Below from the weekend Fin Review. Also website with a QuickTime slideshow of pretty pics lol:

SOUL Tower (http://www.soulgc.com.au)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/Muse11/soultower1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/Muse11/soultower2.jpg

looks huge ey? :)

Yeah. I think Soul will probably become an icon of the Gold Coast more than Q1

yes i agree with you . great site right in the centre will look as high as Q1 without spire from a distance .

But I think Soul will be the Gold Coast's icon, because it's right in the centre of town.

business is still BOOMING in GC!
Last week Soul had massive sales with 70 units sold worth $100mil! Juniper also said this week 50 more units had been secured! Holidays have been kind to unit sales in Surfers ray White quotes.

business is still BOOMING in GC!
Last week Soul had massive sales with 70 units sold worth $100mil! Juniper also said this week 50 more units had been secured! Holidays have been kind to unit sales in Surfers ray White quotes.

They are selling apartments before they've even been released on the market?

so its getting built?

^
It will only get built if the value of pre-sales reaches a certain proportion of the value the entire project (over 50% I'd think), and building costs don't rise too much (amongst other things). At the rate it's selling now I'd say it wil reach the sales threshold quite easily, while the building industry will cool in the next few years so I doubt cost inflation will be a factor. So I reckon she'll be up by the end of the decade.

let us prey....



:laugh:

went to the sales office yesterday as of friday they had sold 130 units in thee weeks
the guy said mainly in the lower levels (from 26th floor- down) at average price of $1.6 million .sales going very well . he said start in early 2006 finish late 2008 or so. also that the street in front of soul along the beach that they will do up will cost $15 million alone . coloured paving new roundabouts ,trees will make this area look so much better.----- to buy one a deposit of 10% $160thousand is needed -------------so start saving.

^Well than they've sold $206million worth of apartments. It's getting closer to the halfway mark.

What was the total cost of the project???

Citiboy did they give u any sort of pricing list. Am just curious as to how much it would cost for a 3brm on the north (unit type 5) on say about the 30th floor

This building would fit so well in Sydney's skyline... I'm a big fan of it. Shame it's up there and not down here, although it'll help in pulling the skyline upwards there.

1.6 far beyond what i could afford :(

went to the sales office yesterday as of friday they had sold 130 units in thee weeks
the guy said mainly in the lower levels (from 26th floor- down) at average price of $1.6 million .sales going very well . he said start in early 2006 finish late 2008 or so. also that the street in front of soul along the beach that they will do up will cost $15 million alone . coloured paving new roundabouts ,trees will make this area look so much better.----- to buy one a deposit of 10% $160thousand is needed -------------so start saving.

Yep because the tower is so tall its far beyond the city plans density ratio. However the council allows buildings of this height to go ahead if there is some sort of "public benifit", similar scenario with Q1's observation deck and ConC's open plaza and big tv screen. Council is planning a huge beachfront makeover/redevelopment and Juniper were required to "contribute" to this for Soul's approval. I think the street level of this project will be awesome, the tower is a bonus. :)

whats Circles big tv about???

In 'THE CIRCLE', which is a large public open space between the two towers, there will be a massive screen for people to watch movies and stuff on.,

wow its going to be such a hub with all that !

Here's a couple of model shots from sales office.. the MACCAS building is staying.. they wouldn't sell for the price they were offered.. and it's the only corporate MACCAS in Australia.. ie owned by head office..

SOUL will also rebuild the street fronting the beach to create a new promenade.

In the office there is a side on view of the building with a little red light on eaach apartment sold.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/emerbot/IMG_0448.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/emerbot/IMG_0447.jpg

Interesting what they've done with the road. Looks like two dead ends and a pedestrian-only zone in front of the tower. Should be a fantastic spot, the perfect setting for a Maccas. Nice find, thanks for pics.

^Yes, that's just what I was thinking.

I was in Surfers last night actually, and I saw a model of Surfers with Q1, CoC, Dolphin, Avalon and Soul. It was so beautiful

Oi, you know that maccas is the most expensive retail space in the country. I forget the actual figure, but I remember it was in the Courier Mail ages ago.

The same courier mail that is also notorius for getting facts correct lol

excellent. Soul looks great. model looks 1;1000 scale. its amazing how the tallest CoC isnt much shorter then Soul (by 21m).
thanks for pix

Are they honestly cutting off the Esplanade?

No they are not cutting of the esplanade, no way in hell. It is just a change in street paving and layout. It is part of the surfers beachfront redevelopment. There will also be a very cool looking lifeguard tower on the end of an "arm" branching out over the sand from that circle thing(on the end of cavill mall). Notice in the main section all the crappy fencing and plantations are gone, it is completely open up to the beach.

I just saw an ad for this tower on channel seven here in Sydney and it was quite good. The ad featured a 3D model of the tower and they panned around the upper levels of it and showed what it would would like from the ground etc.

they alwaysadvertize new projects on Sydney channels, were the only bastards that will buy the units.lol

Looks like towering inferno:

http://irwinallenmemories.com/ia/movies/towering/inferno1.jpg

http://www.konsept.com.tr/serbestdusme/yasam/hobi/bk/resim/22.jpg

^looks more like Eureka-antenna IMHO

nice model pic abc, now i see where it exactly will be :)

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/9151/102139151ml1105675380.jpg

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/6122/102196122al1108002546.jpg

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/6122/102196122ml1108002525.jpg

looks awesome in that second night time shot

Will be a very awesome tower if it gets approved. Goldie is coming on strong!!

Dubai will have nothing on the G/C. In fact, it reaaly does not already IMO

I was just looking at some Dubai pics then, and gold coast by far has heaps more high rises. Dabai i must admit, has a fare bit of 7 - 10 strorey density, and most of there towers are quite good architecture. But Still there towers look nice only to compensate for the bad soil : (

ahh crap, dont tell me in talking about the wrong city

Dubai will have nothing on the G/C. In fact, it reaaly does not already IMO


Go and take a look at skyscraperpage.com diagrams and you will see that Dubai has a great deal on the Gold Coast infact. Like 2x 700 + metre buildings and a load of 300 + metre buildings not to mention how many 200+ metre buildings and loads of smaller ones. Dubai is going so crazy its like a plastic city. It hasn't aquired the paterna of life which makes a city interesting. (But then again neither really has the Gold Coast). Thats just my opinion anyway.

Your kidding! I've never seen these buildings in photos. In fact the only photos i see of Dubai is the crazy curved looking building. Will check it out. Stand corrected

Fark - just checked it out. That is sooo crazy!!!! All in the last year and so much more to come.

Go and take a look at skyscraperpage.com diagrams and you will see that Dubai has a great deal on the Gold Coast infact. Like 2x 700 + metre buildings and a load of 300 + metre buildings not to mention how many 200+ metre buildings and loads of smaller ones. Dubai is going so crazy its like a plastic city. It hasn't aquired the paterna of life which makes a city interesting. (But then again neither really has the Gold Coast). Thats just my opinion anyway.

Come on, cut the GC some slack. We are starting to get into a pattern. Locals are wanting to move into Main Beach, Surfers and Broadie. The trigger was definately Chevron Renaissance

whats the Cheveron Renaissance? Is that what has made goldie boom?

This G/C boom - Australian boom even is nothing compared to whats happening on the world stage ATM

Go and take a look at skyscraperpage.com diagrams and you will see that Dubai has a great deal on the Gold Coast infact. Like 2x 700 + metre buildings and a load of 300 + metre buildings not to mention how many 200+ metre buildings and loads of smaller ones. Dubai is going so crazy its like a plastic city. It hasn't aquired the paterna of life which makes a city interesting. (But then again neither really has the Gold Coast). Thats just my opinion anyway.

I agree with that last comment.

Gold coast isnt nearly as bad as Dubai in that sence but same deal is there

Will be a very awesome tower if it gets approved. Goldie is coming on strong!!
? Soul was approved a few weeks ago! It starts construction in 12 months.already 200 units sold.
if you want accurate data and up to date stats go to http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/ci/bu/sk/li/?id=100510&bt=2&ht=2&sro=1

im editor for that city and its up todate and accurate. skyscraperpage lags behind. i cant control that stuff.

whats the Cheveron Renaissance? Is that what has made goldie boom?

Chevron Renaissance was a project by Raptis which was started in 2000(I think). It's a tri-tower project, built one at a time, Skyline, Skyline North and Skyline Central.

Almost all finished...
http://ct4host.lunarpages.com/gc/chev17.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v175/kwigibo/chevron.jpg

What Surfers will look like once it's all finished. Chevron on right.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/culwulla/MVC-042F.jpg

Should changed this thread to #Approved?

In those models of it the top looks a bit stumpy, I think they should taper it up more steeply as in some of the renderings. It makes it look even better and more slender with a sharper summit IMO. Does anyone agree?

Yeah, I understand what you mean, but I disagree. I think it's perfect the way it is.

Dubai is going so crazy its like a plastic city. It hasn't aquired the paterna of life which makes a city interesting. (But then again neither really has the Gold Coast). Thats just my opinion anyway.

I agree with that last comment.

Gold coast isnt nearly as bad as Dubai in that sence but same deal is there

Go to any other city of 500,000 and explore their "paterna of life", and then come back and tell me that the GC isn't interesting. I also wonder if you have been to dubai?

why must you take offense to that true comment.

If you think that the GC is the same type of city which the capitals are then u try to present the arguement.

I like the GC. The GC and Bris are the same area. Id be stupid not to support it.
Im just agreeing with someone else. geeeeeez

^I think he was commenting on the city's "life", not about it not being a centre for commerce and government, like the capitals. In that case I would agree. Many people make the mistake of believing the GC is nothing more than a beach with resorts built along it.

^I think he was commenting on the city's "life", not about it not being a centre for commerce and government, like the capitals. In that case I would agree. Many people make the mistake of believing the GC is nothing more than a beach with resorts built along it.

True - few 'tourists' would ever venture out into GC's western suburbs and see where the real action is in terms of business, industry and commerce. I recently went to Robina and it totally blew me away - was shocked to see how much is planned for this community, likewise other communities such as Coomera, Helensvale, Yatala and Coolangatta are also undergoing massive changes.

jt

http://img91.exs.cx/img91/4024/p10101665nt.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

i was walking from Club Cleo, and i found this, (sorry for the shake)

Some pics of the model.

http://img213.exs.cx/img213/7708/s140ty.th.jpg (http://img213.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img213&image=s140ty.jpg)

http://img213.exs.cx/img213/8603/s157pk.th.jpg (http://img213.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img213&image=s157pk.jpg)

http://img213.exs.cx/img213/6727/s162xz.th.jpg (http://img213.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img213&image=s162xz.jpg)

http://img213.exs.cx/img213/1476/s178ov.th.jpg (http://img213.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img213&image=s178ov.jpg)

http://img213.exs.cx/img213/8317/s180of.th.jpg (http://img213.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img213&image=s180of.jpg)

http://img213.exs.cx/img213/1338/s215oy.th.jpg (http://img213.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img213&image=s215oy.jpg)

http://img213.exs.cx/img213/8903/s192xe.th.jpg (http://img213.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img213&image=s192xe.jpg)

http://img213.exs.cx/img213/7149/s209uj.th.jpg (http://img213.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img213&image=s209uj.jpg)

jt

Those are awesome photos! Thanks JayT!

Ouwh! Great JayT!!

I'm hoping you saw a few people jostling for apartments with $$$s in their mits.

Loving the plaza areas and how they open up onto the sand.

...

looks very Q1
http://img213.exs.cx/img213/6727/s162xz.jpg

Q1

jayt pic
http://img213.exs.cx/img213/725/q68om.jpg

Those are awesome photos! Thanks JayT!
Your welcome;)

@Muse - the sales lady said they had just sold the southern pentouse that morning. She was very pleased!!!

jt

so,,,,is this tower getting built??

I saw an add for this on Channel 9 in Sydney this morning. They are setting up a display of the project at the Quay Grand hotel over this weekend for anyone interested.

alot of gold coast projects are marketed/advertised heavily in Sydney. must be where all the buyers are?
this happened wth Q1.didnt take long to be sold out.
thanks

good to see the website now up and running with pics - http://www.soulgc.com.au/

I got sent some promotional material yesterday and though I would share! Some of the pics have been posted before but I think these are a bit better quality..

Anyways.. enjoy!

http://www.cmrdesign.net/towers/040605/soul-beach.jpg

http://www.cmrdesign.net/towers/040605/soul-beach2.jpg

http://www.cmrdesign.net/towers/040605/soul-interior.jpg

http://www.cmrdesign.net/towers/040605/soul-pools.jpg

http://www.cmrdesign.net/towers/040605/soul-retail.jpg

Thanks Heaps firefly! Geez they look realistic:D Wow these are probs the best pics i've seen of Soul so far.

Thankyou for the pics of this masterpiece firefly! I really can't wait for Soul to be built.

im looking forward to the retail area :)

This tower is gunna be remmemberd like q1 i reckon. The interior Looks fab.

ffm: Thanks for those pics!! :) Another excellent contribution from you. Bring on Soul!!!

GREAT STUFF. the RL of Soul will be 246m. The RL of Q1's lev78 ob deck will be 241m,so you will be actually looking up at Soul from Q1.amazing

Soul will be one of Australia;s great towers
http://img213.exs.cx/img213/7149/s209uj.jpg

Thanks fireflymairi :okay:...and CULWULLA (is that one of JayT's pics?)

cant wait great pics cull

will the colour be green or blue??

Fireflymairi what high quality pictures, thankyou so much....I am eager for this to begin construction and watch it grow

No worries guys! I got all excited myself when I saw these - can't wait for it to begin. Apparently it will be starting in 2006 and wont be completed until 2009! Three years of construction, wow. How long has Q1 taken out of interest? I moved here when it was already quite tall, when exactly did it start?

Depends what you mean by starting construction.
Ground clearing/excavations/piling takes months but after all this and crane is bolted on site and concrete starts pouring, then a major highrise should only take 2 years.
Q1 starting excavations in Sept 2002.

heres a pic oct2002
http://img299.echo.cx/img299/4043/q1oct20021vn.jpg

construction actually started in feb2003
pic from bulliten may2003

http://img299.echo.cx/img299/3906/q1may20030zn.jpg

So i reckon Soul will take a couple of years.2008 it should look near completed and 2009 interiors will be done.

wow 2008-2009 i hope i cant wait that long for this tower lol. O well it will be interesting watching Soul Grow. Cul i remember when Q1 was only that small and i went past it regularly thinking that one day it will be as tall as it is as today.

I was in Raptis plaza, apparently there's this building called Soul going up. (Note that I managed to get a bare arse in the shot, maybe we should start a tradition.)

http://img208.echo.cx/img208/6498/soul6wx.jpg

And what do ya know, it's next door.

http://img208.echo.cx/img208/9813/soul28lg.jpg

i agree kwigibo... we should start a thread for scrapers with arse shots!! heres one i posted about a month ago

went down to the gold coast on the weekend and had a look at the Q1 display unit :) noice i say.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/danubiis/Q1may05d.jpg

The site for Soul isnt very big at all, i've seen it in real life and i didnt think a tower like Soul could fit in that area?

The site for Soul isnt very big at all, i've seen it in real life and i didnt think a tower like Soul could fit in that area?

I think the plan is to knock down Raptis plaza first

^really? Dam i like Raptis plaza i used to go there alot when i was younger untill a few years ago. i didnt actualy think they were gonna take down the plaza

i never really liked that naked guy :D

j./k

^lol when i was young and to this day i had always wondered why that statue is there

^i've always found its presence disturbing.

lol. There's a statue of a naked guy prominantely placed in the library here at JCU. If that's not bad enough, he's a little excited as well ;) But it's art so its alright - I've never been game to read the information next to it though :)

Anyway back to Soul, which thankfully looks nothing at all like... one of them, and everything like the best skyscraper on the GC by far. :banana:

Anyway back to Soul, which thankfully looks nothing at all like... one of them,

It kind of looks like the bris went horribly wrong, or as though it belongs to a reptile. Let's face it, they're all giant phallic symbols, all the guys at Juniper, Sunland etc. are probably incredibly insecure in the pants.

This tower is sooooo sexy!!! :)
Love the podium too.

^lol when i was young and to this day i had always wondered why that statue is there

Its Micheal Angelo's 'David' - a replica anyway. Notice the big hands on the statue, people always wondered why it had big hands. I wonder where they will put it?

Its fun when you are showing some tourists around the Gold Coast, I always make them stand in front of David and take their picture making sure it ends up funny. You know, if you position people just right like getting them to put their hands on a railing just so - well you get the picture:D

^LOL man thats classic :rofl:
Anyways does anyone know when Soul will start construction if all goes to plan?

Early next year i believe so there is a while to wait yet

another great landmark tower for the Gold Coast, really starting to step up now, 246m aint shabby at all!

so Circle on Cavill, Q1, and Soul Tower is that it for the 210m+ towers on the Gold Coast for the next 5-10 years?

Soul is 240m or 72storeys. Circle on cavill North tower will be 219.5m/70storeys.
The Transit site has approval for a 300m/100storey apartment tower envelope. This will be built within 10 years. who knows when next 200m+ will be planned? could come along tommorrow.

Not sure if these pics have been posted yet.

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/1390/102461390ml1118116043.jpg

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/1390/102461390al1118116044.jpg

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/1390/102461390bl1118116045.jpg

^ yeah, firefly posted them on post number-185.
looks great

yeah! it shore is a nice looking tower and i like how the top arches off..

If goldie got a few more towers like this (height/floors) spread along the coast, it would really compliment the skyline rather then just having one or two only towers curently that are 200m+ poking out like (as cull would say ) rats balls :D

Speaking of which, how far away is Soul from Q1?

Predictably the $16.5 million penthouse hasn't sold. Marketing it as the most expensive penthouse was a clever way to get the development in the papers. Expect it to sell for half that amount after the tower is built (if it goes ahead).

Speaking of which, how far away is Soul from Q1?

Soul is only a few blocks from Q1. Soul is to be on the corner of The Esplanade and Cavill Mall. A few blocks away is Q1, which is at the southern end of Surfers Paradise Boulevarde.

Predictably the $16.5 million penthouse hasn't sold. Marketing it as the most expensive penthouse was a clever way to get the development in the papers. Expect it to sell for half that amount after the tower is built (if it goes ahead).
I bet it sells, and for more than $8 Million. Just because Euerkas penthouse can't sell for that amount, doesn't mean this one won't!!

^Fully. Q1's penthouse sold for $8.9million, and is now back on the market for $10mill.

Soul is in a much better location, so it could sell for the $14.5million pricetag, not $16.5mill.

This tower looks so sick!! GC getting some great towers now

i heard Souls penthouse will be the most expensive on the Gold Coast

^ From what i understand it will be the most expensive in Australia. It will be a 4 story jobby.

damn :D

Dam that will be a TAD more than i can afford lol

Will Soul be able to maintain its distinct identity once it's completed? Or will it go down in history as just 'Q1's little brother'?

Soul will be only 20m higher then the nearby Circle on cavill. Plus there will be a 300m tower not far from Q1. there will be supertalls everywhere.

And Q1's roof proper is only slightly higher than Soul's.

Dam that will be a TAD more than i can afford lol
yeah, just a tad bit more for me too :D
j/k

When is construction going to start for this tower?

Plus there will be a 300m tower not far from Q1.?

transit center

Soul will start next year.
the 300m transit tower will eventually go ahead. developer who will build it will probably wait for next cycle.

^ fare enough

Perhaps 300 metres is a little hopeful and speculative, particularly in light of the corruption and accountability issues arising recently with respect to the Council "yes men". We all know that everything gets approved on the G/C - but perhaps this will no longer be the case with the media exposure of some of - what some may call refer to as past "dodgy deals"...

watch this space

Perhaps 300 metres is a little hopeful and speculative, particularly in light of the corruption and accountability issues arising recently with respect to the Council "yes men". We all know that everything gets approved on the G/C - but perhaps this will no longer be the case with the media exposure of some of - what some may call refer to as past "dodgy deals"...

watch this space

lol, what on earth are u talking about??? The reason everything gets approved here is because there is almost no opposition to developments in community, little heritage to protect, and proposals fit the town plan.

The council has not yet made a decision on what the height limit for the Transit Centre Site will be, but it won't be 300m. The proposed height control was to go before the strategic Growth Management Committee in March but has been delayed.

hahaha yes grollo is bitter that eureka penthouse couldnt sell for anything like this penthouse - but then again what view would u prefer: gold coast or melbourne?

lol, what on earth are u talking about??? The reason everything gets approved here is because there is almost no opposition to developments in community, little heritage to protect, and proposals fit the town plan.

Yer right - another undergraduate 'know it all' - typical. As a matter of fact, I do happen to know what im talking about. Impact assessable developments as you may be aware from your lectures, are relatively complex and there a number of steps: DA – Information stage (assessment manager at IDAS seeks further info from the developer) - Public Submissions – Decision to approve, approve with conditions, or reject. * Note that the public consultation section of the process occurs quite late. In the end there must be a decision made by a human. This inevitably involves the exercise of discretion, and where there is discretion there is the ability to corrupt the process with politics or whatever. Go do some reading -perrhaps the newspaper for stories regarding this same topic and stop being so arrogant.

The council has not yet made a decision on what the height limit for the Transit Centre Site will be, but it won't be 300m. The proposed height control was to go before the strategic Growth Management Committee in March but has been delayed.
thats funny? thats not what i was told be a GC planner not long ago.ill enquire again this week.

^ From what i understand it will be the most expensive in Australia. It will be a 4 story jobby.

No it won't. 16 million dollars at Wooloomoolloo Walf, 15 million for World Tower and 22 million for Mosman Hotel penthouse.

thats funny? thats not what i was told be a GC planner not long ago.ill enquire again this week.

Surfers Paradise Transit Centre - The Facts:
http://www.goldcoast.qld.gov.au/t_std.asp?pid=4443

FURTHER REPORTS TO COUNCIL IN 2005:

- TOWER HEIGHT CONTROLS (INTENT IS TO LIMIT THE HEIGHT)

Building Height Control (To Strategic Growth Management Committee) (14.03.05)
• Council resolution G04.1129.026 refers (resolution No 15)

I guess they will always be able to go up to 300m with a spire even if the roof height limit is lower.

^ yeah. i actually drew a 300m high bldg envelope for the council superimposed on my skyline panorama.they wanted a block 300m high with flat top. I suppose to see full potential of site.
Ive always thought the tower will be 250m-275m with fin or spire, similar to Q1.
Ive also heard Meriton have shown interest in the site.It might be harrysT last chance to build a super tower at surfers pd?. No doubt he will employ Bobby Nation to design it.

Yer right - another undergraduate 'know it all' - typical. As a matter of fact, I do happen to know what im talking about. Impact assessable developments as you may be aware from your lectures, are relatively complex and there a number of steps: DA – Information stage (assessment manager at IDAS seeks further info from the developer) - Public Submissions – Decision to approve, approve with conditions, or reject. * Note that the public consultation section of the process occurs quite late. In the end there must be a decision made by a human. This inevitably involves the exercise of discretion, and where there is discretion there is the ability to corrupt the process with politics or whatever. Go do some reading -perrhaps the newspaper for stories regarding this same topic and stop being so arrogant.

Didn't mean to come off as arrogant. It's just that I have learnt quite a bit of my father who worked in the council for almost a decade. I'm not a "know it all", thank you very much. I don't mean to spark a debate. I do believe there was corruption of the sort your thinking of quite a while back (like in the 80's) from memory. Haven't heard of anything recent, I don't watch ACA garbage...

i was up on the gold coast last week, and i ventured into the display suite for SOUL

i was very impressed. looks nice ! i thought it may be taller than 250 metres though. it looked huge !

cheers

lozza

^ well its 246m RL, so it is nearly 250m above the ocean.

An interesting news article relating to Soul:

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SOUL PUTS HEART IN UNIT SALES
The Gold Coast Bulletin, Tuesday 13th September 2005
The Soul tower in Surfers Paradise has sparked a revival in unit sales on the Gold Coast.

Soul, on the corner of Cavill Mall and The Esplanade, contributed 112 sales in the past quarter.

This lifted total sales volume from 207 units to 408 units, the best figures in 18 months.

The Midwood report, released yesterday, said stock levels totalled 1324 units, almost 2-5 year's supply.

Two Soul sub-penthouses sold over Easter for a total of $9 million to Gold Coast and Brisbane buyers.

A level 64 residence went for $4.57 million, while one on level 65 sold for $4.375 million.

The release of the project's custom-designed residences from levels 40 to 77 mark its full public launch. It is already one of the fastest-selling projects of its size in Queensland.

Since the Boxing Day release of levels one to 39, more than 140 of its 300 apartments have sold for more than $220 million.

The 246m Soul tower is on a prime 8690sqm site that runs through from Cavill Avenue to 114m of beach frontage on The Esplanade.

The project also will have a shopping destination with more than 5500sqm of beachfront restaurants and retail outl

Souls selling like hotcakes! why wouldnt it. its fine design on probably finest location in the whole Surfers stretch!

Anyone seen the Soul ads they are running on tv nowdays? With the flying in over the ocean, looks huge!:)

http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/9190/s25rj.jpg

http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/7421/s13to.jpg

havent seen it but sounds cool.
How spoilt is surfers atm? just completed 322m Q1 , now 219m Circle on Cavill uc and soon the 240m Soul will start! fantastic :cheers: