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mohammedirshad06

February 12th, 2012, 03:48 PM

So its now official.... NO MORE COCHIN, ALLEPPEY, QUILON, PALGHAT etc.... Its all back to Malayalam as per Government of India notification

Shakespeare may have said what's in the name but for the Home Ministry it is a matter of sentiments of millions as it had approved renaming of 25 towns across the country during the last decade.

In Kerala, the highest number of 17 towns were renamed, followed by Punjab, where the Centre approved the change of names in four towns, besides two in Odisha.

Though the Home Ministry approved the change of names in two towns in Madhya Pradesh, it rejected the proposal of renaming capital Bhopal as Bhojpal.

Punjab's Sahibzada Ajit Singh Nagar is now known as Ajitgarh while Sunam town is Sunam Udham Singh Wala. The name of Nawanshahar has been changed to Shahid Bhagat Singh Nagar and Muktsar town is now known as Sri Muktsar Sahib.

Phulbani in Odisha is now called Baudh Kaudhamal while the name of Sonapur has been changed to Subarnapur.

The rechristened towns in Kerala are Thrissur (from Trichur), Kollam (Quilon), Alappuzha (Alleppey), Palakkad (Palghat), Kannur (Connanore), Thalassery (Tellicherry), Vadakara (Badagare), Paravur (Parur) and Aluva (Alwaye).

The other name changed towns in Kerala are Devi Kulam (from Devi Colam), Kochi (Cochin), Changanassery (Changanachery ), Chirayinkeezhu (Chirayinkil), Kodungallur (Cranagnore), Mannarkad (Mannarghat), Mananthavady (Mannantoddy) and Sulthan Bathery (Sultan's Battery).

Names of two Madhya Pradesh towns -- Gotegaon and Mhow -- have been changed to Sridham and Ambedkar Nagar respectively.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Govt-approves-change-in-names-of-25-towns/articleshow/11859587.cms

Aslesh

February 12th, 2012, 04:34 PM

Weren't they renamed yet? What about Thiruvananthapuram?

Xeno Axe

February 12th, 2012, 06:01 PM

Weren't they renamed yet? What about Thiruvananthapuram?

I think Thiruvananthapuram was renamed in 1991.

RajeshVR

February 12th, 2012, 07:10 PM

I think Thiruvananthapuram was renamed in 1991.

I think Trivandrum {place name}has not been changed yet.
What changed was the name of district from Trivandrum to Thiruvananthapuram

RKPV

February 12th, 2012, 07:46 PM

^^What about the names Quilandy, Chaughat, Feroke and Wynad?

Sali_varakkal

February 13th, 2012, 04:58 AM

I think Trivandrum {place name}has not been changed yet.

Is there really a place Trivandrum. Its Tampanoor only right?. The district and city is generally and historically called Trivandrum.
So the name change was done way back as some one told.

RKPV

February 13th, 2012, 05:35 AM

Is there really a place Trivandrum. Its Tampanoor only right?. The district and city is generally and historically called Trivandrum.
So the name change was done way back as some one told.

Palayam , mananchira, nadakkave, puthiyara - engal evidyanu koyikkodu kandittullathu...? Athupola thanne mashe thiruanthoram.

PPJ

February 13th, 2012, 06:18 AM

Palayam , mananchira, nadakkave, puthiyara - engal evidyanu koyikkodu kandittullathu...? Athupola thanne mashe thiruanthoram.

Thats correct. There is no place called kozhikode/calicut but refers to a huge area. Thats how every city is named.

I remember some years back some kochi friends while visiting my home asked where is "proper" calicut. (Kochities are more into using the word proper).

maheshponneth

February 13th, 2012, 06:28 AM

^^Mananchira is the proper calicut

Malayaali

February 13th, 2012, 06:29 AM

Kochities are more into using the word proper.

:)

Yeah, 'coz there is a proper Ernakulam!

Malayaali

February 13th, 2012, 06:31 AM

Nurses’ strike in Lakeshore ends (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/kochi/Nurses-strike-in-Lakeshore-ends/articleshow/11865894.cms)
The two-week-long strike by nurses' unions in Lakeshore Hospital ended on Sunday.

The hospital management has revised the salary package for the nursing staff. Minimum wages have been fixed at Rs 8,131. Salary for experienced nurses will be between Rs 11,750 and Rs 14,750 based on experience. The revised salary package will be effective from January 1, 2012.

During the talks initiated by labour minister Shibu Baby John to settle the strike, the management and nurses' union were ready for a compromise. Baby John said the state government would not hold any discussions with hospitals that were not giving minimum wages to nurses. He also said there was no use blaming the government without giving minimum wages to nursing staff.

But the strike continues in MOSC Medical College Hospital in Kolencherry where talks failed again. The hospital management was not ready to accept the salary package that was proposed by the labour minister in a discussion that was held in Aluva on Saturday.

The private hospital management association on Sunday said they would close down hospitals across the state if the government failed to settle the nurses' stir in the next 15 days.

Aslesh

February 13th, 2012, 07:14 AM

^^Mananchira is the proper calicut

Yes because the old Samoothiri kovilakam was in that area. Hence the name Koyilkodu. Similarly proper Thiruvananthapuram must be the East Fort area. The name came from the temple no?

PPJ

February 13th, 2012, 07:50 AM

Yes because the old Samoothiri kovilakam was in that area. Hence the name Koyilkodu. Similarly proper Thiruvananthapuram must be the East Fort area. The name came from the temple no?

I am not sure if the exact fort place is located yet. It can be anywhere between beypore to manachira. And about the names calicut/kozhikode has several other names too. The name kozhikode was not made to relate a specific place, but to relate the region around it.

mohammedirshad06

February 13th, 2012, 11:42 AM

Yes because the old Samoothiri kovilakam was in that area. Hence the name Koyilkodu. Similarly proper Thiruvananthapuram must be the East Fort area. The name came from the temple no?

The Manachira is something that came later during the peak of Samoothiri rule. Like Kochi, the official name of Kozhikode and its kingdom in those times was Eranad, with its capital at Nediyiruppu.... The city of Kozhikode came much later

In Travance, it was known as Thiru-Vallum-Kotta, which is shorten as Thiruvallukode and later Thiruvitamkode and Thiruvitamkoor... Sree Vallumkode Bhagavati residing in a small temple near Padmanabhapuram Palace was the official deity of Travancore, hence the name struck as Thiruvallum devi as its more of Tamil essence in Southern Travancore

Even Kochi is a corrupt chinese word for Kochuazhi..... The original name of the island was known as Gothuruthu.... The official name of Kochi Kingdom was Perumpadappu, which is a place in Malappuram, the native of Kochi Rulers and later a similar name was extended to a place in Gothuruthu.... In some records, the state was known as Goshreerajayam, a name now extended to Northern Kochi Islands....

Even though Kannur is Kannanoor in reality, it was a small locality referred near to the place.... The city was Arakkal, during the reign of Arakkal Sultans while its northern portion was Chirakkal... Even Chirakkal name came much later, as original name is Kolathupura, the city of Kolathunadu Kingdom......

Malayaali

February 14th, 2012, 05:16 AM

15,000 HIV/AIDS cases in the state (http://www.deccanchronicle.com/channels/cities/kochi/palakkad-tops-hivaids-cases-301)
Don’t be surprised to know that the district that cares the most for the bed-ridden is also the district having the most number of HIV/AIDS patients in the state.

Palakkad has reported the highest number of HIV/AIDS patients in the state, 2,825 persons, according to the latest statistics released by the Kerala AIDS Control Society.

In another key finding, the society has detected that 2,200 persons are detected with HIV every year in the state. Of 10,000 pregnant women, seven are being detected with HIV/AIDS, while in 2011 alone 86 pregnant women were detected with the deadly disease.

The total number of people identified with the infection across the state is 15,000 While four in every 1,000 sex workers in other districts are found infected with HIV, 36 sex workers in Palakkad contracted the disease.

“The sex workers in other districts are better paid than those in Palakkad and hence the number of clients per each sex worker a day in other districts is 1 to 2 while in Palakkad it is 5 to 6 per day.

Hence the chances of contracting the disease are on the upper side in Palakkad,” according to Dr M. Prasanna Kumar, team leader and head of technical support unit for Kerala State AIDS Control Society.

The maximum cases are reported from Chittur, Alathur and Palakkad taluks. Another interesting fact is that even agriculture labourers are found infected with the disease in Palakkad while it is nil in other districts.

The proximity of Palakkad to Coimbatore in Tamil Nadu where the prevalence rate of AIDS is over one percent, is cited as the main reason for the high incidence. The illicit liquor trade flourishing in the district is another reason.

Close on the heels is Thrissur, with 2,012 registered cases and Thiruvanathapuram follows suit with 1,700 HIV cases.

The least affected is Wayanad with 200 cases, while in Ernakulam the numbers rests at 1,000. Low prevalence is also reported from Alappuzha, Idukki and Kottayam. The society is yet to study the reasons for the high prevalence in Thrissur.

moncy

February 14th, 2012, 08:10 AM

So have another happy news:cheers:
http://epaper.mathrubhumi.com/epaperimages/322012/322012-md-ek-1/31921718.JPG

Kerala's second Private aircraft, all set to land at Kochi on Feb 13th morning 10:30 AM. Owned by Thrissur based Kalyan Group, which owns a series of Jewellery and Textile showrooms, the flight is Embraer Phenom-100 business jet from Brazil.

The luxury jet will be based in Cochin Airport and will be country's 61st Private Jet. Eariler Joy Alukkas personally owned his flight which is too based in Kochi....

So now there is a justification for Private Jet terminal in Kochi... More and more rich Malayalis will likely to buy private jets, after RR series......

http://i44.tinypic.com/2lvfwg1.jpg

OK Landed

Source: Deepika

Aslesh

February 14th, 2012, 11:58 AM

Pay more tax if you are living close to Metro. (http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/markets/real-estate/news-/people-living-close-to-metro-corridors-may-end-up-paying-more-tax/articleshow/11885331.cms) :lol:

PPJ

February 14th, 2012, 12:18 PM

mohammedirshad06

February 14th, 2012, 01:18 PM

What a dumb idea!!! Govt has gone nuts!:bash:

Well, thats something good and improves the viablity of such projects. It just additional cess..... The property near a metro line gets double or triple more valuations in any market. Why should land owners get extra advantage at society's expense of constructing a metro line with state money? They too need to pay a part of that increased profit share with the society.

If my knowledge is right, Singapore is one such country to have cess on properties classifed as zones based from distance of an MRTs line

In one way, its an direct earning for Metro's profitablity. But the Govt should try to see, such additional cess, must go to the Metro company directly, rather than Govt itself using for its own inefficient matters or other places development....

sanjupalayat

February 14th, 2012, 04:20 PM

Sadhoo beedi ad in the 1950's

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Malayaali

February 16th, 2012, 06:02 AM

Well, thats something good and improves the viablity of such projects. It just additional cess.The property near a metro line gets double or triple more valuations in any market. Why should land owners get extra advantage at society's expense of constructing a metro line with state money?
+ 1

One of the best ideas on the float. The metro line once completed or in the event of construction will definitely boost up the market prices of the locality and it'll reflect in real estate prices there. I have seen this in Dubai, where accommodations near to Metro stations charge much more than other places. So the point is why should some one bear the fruit over public money?

The tax is meant for property transactions. So it doesn't bother who don't want to sell their property. And for others, they gonna get hiked prices for their property of which a share will go back to the government. Thumps UP!

Aslesh

February 16th, 2012, 06:22 AM

Metro ente veedinu munniloode venam enn njan paranjillallo? Also they took half of my property in LA. :X

ajithv

February 16th, 2012, 06:29 AM

:rofl:

MX9Mom3daf4

അല്ലപ്പാ ഈ കണ്ണൂരെബിടെയാ ഒച്ചയില്ലത്താ സ്ഥലോള്ളത്....

Malayaali

February 16th, 2012, 06:47 AM

Metro ente veedinu munniloode venam enn njan paranjillallo? Also they took half of my property in LA. :X

You are speaking like a leftist now! Some one has to suffer in any case. Take the case of Kochi, where no one is practically suffering.

The metro construction where more land needs to be acquired is Banerjee road, where most of the buildings near to road is no more used! These structures was in dilapidated condition for long and was anticipating take over for a long time now. They are blessed that the metro construction fetched them a good price.

In MG road, only a handful of owners will suffer and the magnitude of loss is minimal. The team for land acquisition is named Land Purchase committee rather than Land acquisition committee, since they are paying market rates to the tune of 30-35 lakhs per cent and sq ft rates for the area demolished!! And at the end of the day, the remaining property is provided with state of art road and a Metro rail, which will fetch their property a price much higher than what it would have got earlier and the govt. wants them to share the profit, that's it, EOD :)

Aslesh

February 16th, 2012, 07:08 AM

PPJ

February 16th, 2012, 07:31 AM

Ennod paranjitt karyamilla. Metro is not going to come in front of my house anyway. This is what people will say if this tax is going to come in Kerala. Also it not leftists but capitalists(traders and businessmen) who oppose land acquisition. Houses are easier to be acquired than shops and offices.

Thats a point I would support. The metro line and paths are not decided by the people who live near by. For business people its actually loss in business for few years. One good example I would like to show is metro construction in indiranagar in bangalore. People just lost the business for few years because of construction activities. Some even left the business there.

As for common man who do not give the house for rent, why should he pay extra money as tax as he do not gain anything from the metro.

Even if the house is rented at high rent or sold at higher price, govt will get the higher tax anyway. So no need of separate tax.

Malayaali

February 16th, 2012, 07:45 AM

As for common man who do not give the house for rent, why should he pay extra money as tax as he do not gain anything from the metro.

Even if the house is rented at high rent or sold at higher price, govt will get the higher tax anyway. So no need of separate tax.

നിങ്ങള്ക്ക് ഇതുവരെ കാര്യം മനസിലായില്ലേ?

പച്ച മലയാളത്തില് പറയാം!

കൊച്ചീല് മെട്രോ വരുന്നുണ്ട് മോനെ, എന്റെ കൊറച് സ്ഥലം പോകും. പക്ഷെ കൊഴപുല്ലാത്ത പൈസ കിട്ടും. എന്നാ പണി കഴിഞ്ഞു ബാപ പോകുമ്പോ വേണെങ്കില് വിറ്റ് കളയാം. ഇപ്പൊ കിട്ടുന്നതിന്റെ ഇരടിയോ മൂന്നു ഈരട്ടിയോ കിട്ടും. നല്ല റോഡും റയിലും ഒക്കെ അല്ലെ ടീംസ് പണിത് ഇട്ടിരികുന്നത് കുറച് പൈസ സര്കാരിനു കൊടുക്കണം, എന്നാലും കൊഴപ്പൂല്ല. വിക്കുന്നില്ലെങ്കില് ഒരു പ്രശ്നോം ഇല്ല ;)

rajkrish

February 16th, 2012, 08:18 AM

Idiotic idea by the govt again. I don't understand why we get a bunch of Munchausens.

mohammedirshad06

February 16th, 2012, 08:30 AM

Thats a point I would support. The metro line and paths are not decided by the people who live near by. For business people its actually loss in business for few years. One good example I would like to show is metro construction in indiranagar in bangalore. People just lost the business for few years because of construction activities. Some even left the business there.

As for common man who do not give the house for rent, why should he pay extra money as tax as he do not gain anything from the metro.

Even if the house is rented at high rent or sold at higher price, govt will get the higher tax anyway. So no need of separate tax.

Well, the concept is simple.... Currently the fair value fixed by the govt has some criteria, say, land in front of a Panchyat/Muncipal road, Land in front of a NH, Land with access road of less than 3 m width and things like that.... The fair value is determined differently for different types of land.

Just like a 30 M wide road gives a frontage property higher value, hence resulting in govt fixation of higher Fair Value, a new clause being now added to revise the fair value of that part of land where metro passes. Neither land owners nor public might have argued for the road... Same in case of Metro.

If we look, house tax and property tax are also accessed based on several parameters, like how interior is the property from the main road, the bulit up sqft etc..... Now Metro line passes in front of the house/unit, resulting in increase in value of the property. Hence even house tax should also be revised, just like how a new road revises the property valulations.

If this clause is not added, what happens is that land owners will show only the fair value in transaction agreements and govt will get only share what it used prior to the metro/rapid transit. Revising fair value is a tedious process, as it needs appointment for full fledged land assessment commission. So more easy factor is, introducing a new tax/cess on property transactions or regular taxes which also acts like a revised fair value chart or property assessment.

PPJ

February 16th, 2012, 09:09 AM

Well, the concept is simple.... Currently the fair value fixed by the govt has some criteria, say, land in front of a Panchyat/Muncipal road, Land in front of a NH, Land with access road of less than 3 m width and things like that.... The fair value is determined differently for different types of land.

Just like a 30 M wide road gives a frontage property higher value, hence resulting in govt fixation of higher Fair Value, a new clause being now added to revise the fair value of that part of land where metro passes. Neither land owners nor public might have argued for the road... Same in case of Metro.

If we look, house tax and property tax are also accessed based on several parameters, like how interior is the property from the main road, the bulit up sqft etc..... Now Metro line passes in front of the house/unit, resulting in increase in value of the property. Hence even house tax should also be revised, just like how a new road revises the property valulations.

If this clause is not added, what happens is that land owners will show only the fair value in transaction agreements and govt will get only share what it used prior to the metro/rapid transit. Revising fair value is a tedious process, as it needs appointment for full fledged land assessment commission. So more easy factor is, introducing a new tax/cess on property transactions or regular taxes which also acts like a revised fair value chart or property assessment.

Explanation is quite reasonable with comparing fair value calculation based on proximity to road and type of road. But in case of metro line it doesnt make sense. Simply because one cannot use metro line because it passes near by his house. He still has to go to metro station and take tickets. Metro line doesnt make any good for pedestrians. There may or may not be good road connectivity to metro station. The road near to his house may be narrow and unpaved. There are lot of possible situations. Its as good as saying since railway station or airport is nearby I need to pay extra tax.

So by lot of ways we cannot compare fair value calculation in comparison to roads. Even if it has to be taxed it would be surely a complicated equation.

sanba

February 16th, 2012, 10:15 AM

RajeshVR

February 16th, 2012, 10:23 AM

mohammedirshad06

February 16th, 2012, 11:49 AM

Explanation is quite reasonable with comparing fair value calculation based on proximity to road and type of road. But in case of metro line it doesnt make sense. Simply because one cannot use metro line because it passes near by his house. He still has to go to metro station and take tickets. Metro line doesnt make any good for pedestrians. There may or may not be good road connectivity to metro station. The road near to his house may be narrow and unpaved. There are lot of possible situations. Its as good as saying since railway station or airport is nearby I need to pay extra tax.

So by lot of ways we cannot compare fair value calculation in comparison to roads. Even if it has to be taxed it would be surely a complicated equation.

Well, in that case not every house near the road have their own cars or bike. There are many, who depend on buses on road. The Buses, as per the law or record, are not supposed to stop anywhere in the road, other than bus stops. So you still have to walk from the house to the bus stop. Nammal parayllie- Bus pozhannu vazhi, which gets more value....

Does the fair value ascertains whether the house have car or not, to fix prices?

In Metro's case, there is one stop in almost a KM.... Thats why we have 23 stops for a 25 Km stretch, so you don't have to walk long to stations. Well, in other Metro running cities, you have something called Metro Feeder Buses, that are dedicated Buses connecting interior places with nearest Metro stations in a radius a Km. For example there could be a Metro Feeder bus running in Kadavanthara and KP Vallon Road, for the proposed stop at Kadavanthara. So the utility of Metro, reaches almost one KM from the Metro station, which too increases the value.

Secondly the likely model is adding a cess at time of sale, which means the buyer pays to the govt. The Seller is putting an advantage tag- Near to Metro, just like we say bus pozhanna vazhi gets more money per cent than interior.... Its sure, a seller will put this tag while selling the land. So why should Govt lose an income stream?

If we look, the land near Nedumbassery airport gets almost double or triple, what one gets in Sreemoolanagaram or in Chalakkudi. The key reason is because of Airport nearby. So the govt should have introduced an additional appreciation cess on the land transanctions nearby, which can help many airports to grow, rather taxing passengers alone....... After all these projects are economic simulators too...

moncy

February 16th, 2012, 11:53 AM

Idiotic idea by the govt again. I don't understand why we get a bunch of Munchausens.

I thought it is a bad word in malayalam . then searched in net

Munchausen Syndrome
Definition
Munchausen syndrome is a psychiatric disorder that causes an individual to self-inflict injury or illness or to fabricate symptoms of physical or mental illness, in order to receive medical care or hospitalization. In a variation of the disorder, Munchausen by proxy (MSBP), an individual, typically a mother, intentionally causes or fabricates illness in a child or other person under her care.

enthu cheyana dictionary vechodu venam vayican erican.

rajkrish

February 16th, 2012, 12:07 PM

I thought it is a bad word in malayalam . then searched in net

Munchausen Syndrome
Definition
Munchausen syndrome is a psychiatric disorder that causes an individual to self-inflict injury or illness or to fabricate symptoms of physical or mental illness, in order to receive medical care or hospitalization. In a variation of the disorder, Munchausen by proxy (MSBP), an individual, typically a mother, intentionally causes or fabricates illness in a child or other person under her care.

enthu cheyana dictionary vechodu venam vayican erican.

You should read Adventures of Baron von Munchausen, where the protagonist conjures up seemingly impossible feats. Its very funny indeed. When I hear about the grandiose projects image of Munchausen comes to my mind :)

ajithv

February 16th, 2012, 12:15 PM

I thought it is a bad word in malayalam .
I know somewhat similar to this came to your mind ;)

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/1954/moonjikkal.jpg

This place "Moonjikkal" is near to Kodaikanal and not a bad word :cheers:

moncy

February 16th, 2012, 12:19 PM

I know somewhat similar to this came to your mind ;)

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/1954/moonjikkal.jpg

This place "Moonjikkal" is near to Kodaikanal and not a bad word :cheers:

Haha :banana: so fast you got it... we have a famous brand beer in that name

PPJ

February 16th, 2012, 12:38 PM

Interesting article on poverty.

http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/columns/Harsh_Mander/article2882340.ece

Malayaali

February 16th, 2012, 01:39 PM

India to become 3rd largest Economy in 2012

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/419480_387386597944280_100000188285039_1783702_2020082666_n.jpg

amalmohan

February 16th, 2012, 02:19 PM

^^good to hear....with bigger power comes bigger responsibilities...:)

abhilashtvpm

February 16th, 2012, 04:35 PM

http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/2721/image001enx.jpg

ajithv

February 16th, 2012, 04:47 PM

^^
If the Govt. is ready to pay much much lower than this per cent,we could've seen 6 lane highways throughout Kerala by now.

rajkrish

February 16th, 2012, 04:50 PM

^^
If the Govt. is ready to pay much much lower than this per cent,we could've seen 6 lane highways throughout Kerala by now.

+100

ajithv

February 18th, 2012, 07:20 AM

ചില സൂചനകള്* അറിഞ്ഞോ അറിയാതെയോ നമ്മുടെ നിലവാരത്തെക്കുറിച്ച്
നമ്മെ ബോധവാന്മാരാക്കാന്* പ്രാപ്ത്മായിരിക്കും.അത് ചിലപ്പോള്* ഒരു അനിവാര്യത ആകാം.അല്ലെങ്ങില്* ഒരു കാവ്യ നീതി..കേട്ടിട്ടല്ലേ
"ജനങ്ങള്*ക്ക്* അവര്* അര്*ഹിക്കുന്ന നിലവാരത്തിലുള്ള ഭരണ കര്*ത്താക്കളെ ലഭിക്കും" എന്ന്.അത് പോലെ തന്നെ ആണ് ഈ വാര്*ത്ത ചാനലിനു
അവര്* അര്*ഹിക്കുന്ന പേരുള്ള വാഹനം തന്നെ കിട്ടിയത്....!!! (തറ)..:nuts:

http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/1176/mmnews.jpg

Malayaali

February 18th, 2012, 10:29 AM

Best Tourism Destination: Kerala, Kochi 6th best city! (http://english.manoramaonline.com/cgi-bin/MMOnline.dll/portal/ep/contentView.do?contentId=11055276&tabId=1&channelId=-1073865030&programId=1080132912)
For the second year running, Kerala has been rated the best tourist destination in the country, according to a survey.

The survey says: "Kerala topping the list is a no-brainer."

The survey was conducted by the Nielsen Company on behalf of the Outlook Traveller magazine.

"The Outlook Survey has come as a big endorsement for Brand Kerala. It will spur us to take it forward with many more new initiatives," said Kerala Tourism Secretary T.K. Manoj Kumar here.

The survey also found Kerala as the second best state for winter destination after Goa, while Rajasthan and the Andamans occupied the third and fourth slots, respectively.

In the category of beach destinations, Kerala occupies the fourth place.

Another highlight of the survey is about Kerala' coastal city of Kochi, which has emerged as the sixth best city for tourists after Jaipur, Bangalore, Delhi, Mumbai and Hyderabad.

This rating has come at a time when the arrival of international tourists into Kerala grew from 6.50 lakh in 2010 to 7.3 lakh in 2011.

The number of domestic tourists grew from 85 lakh to 93 lakh and on the revenue side, the total foreign exchange earnings grew by 11.18 percent to touch Rs.4,221 crore, while the total earnings grew 9.40 percent to reach Rs.19,037 crore.

RKPV

February 18th, 2012, 06:28 PM

Great news for Kerala!

But still we need good laxury hotels especially near to beaches. One feedback on hotels in Bombay is that, they are laxurious in any matter but as expensive as hotels in NewYork city !

Best Tourism Destination: Kerala, Kochi 6th best city! (http://english.manoramaonline.com/cgi-bin/MMOnline.dll/portal/ep/contentView.do?contentId=11055276&tabId=1&channelId=-1073865030&programId=1080132912)

DileepKS

February 19th, 2012, 06:04 AM

Great news for Kerala!

But still we need good laxury hotels especially near to beaches. One feedback on hotels in Bombay is that, they are laxurious in any matter but as expensive as hotels in NewYork city !

We have a list!!

Major chain Hotels present & coming up in Kochi

Le Meridien Cochin - Maradu
Vivanta by Taj Malabar - Willingdon Island
Trident Cochin by Oberoi - Willingdon Island
Holiday Inn Cochin - NH Bypass
Ramada Cochin - Kumbalam
Casino by CGH Earth - Willingdon Island
Gateway by Taj - Marine Drive
Brunton Boartyard by CGH Earth - Fort Kochi
Dream by VCHWyndham - Kadavantra
VRINDA by Oberoi - Kochi Backwaters
Gokulam Park by Sarovar - Kaloor
Biznotel Emarald by Pride Hotels - Vytilla
Boghatty Palace by KTDC - Bolghatty Island
Flora COCHIN by Flora Hotels - CIAL
Hotels by ABAD - MG Road, Fort Kochi, CIAL

U/C and Coming soon

Courtyard by Marriott - Edapally (U/C)
Courtyard by Marriott - CIAL (U/C)
Crown Plaza by ICH - Maradu (U/C)
The PARK - Vytilla (U/C) - Opening July '12
Banyan Tree Residence - Poothotta (U/C)
Berggruen Keys - Thevara (U/C)
Gateway by Taj-Muthoot - Kakkanad (U/C)
Night by VCHWyndham - Silversand Island (Proposed)
Hyatt Place - Maradu (Proposed)
Ramada by Gold Souk - Kalamassery (Proposed)
Hotel by SAHARA - Grace, Kakkanad (Proposed)
BEAUMONDE by The FERN - (Proposed)
Movenpick - (Proposed)
Dusit Princess - (Proposed)
ITC @ Nitesh - Kakkanad (Proposed)
Hyatt @ Lulu Bolghatty - (Expected)
Holiday Inn Express - Aluva (Proposed)
Zinc City - (Proposed)

mohammedirshad06

February 19th, 2012, 07:44 AM

Great news for Kerala!

But still we need good laxury hotels especially near to beaches. One feedback on hotels in Bombay is that, they are laxurious in any matter but as expensive as hotels in NewYork city !

Though we have many Luxurious brands coming up across Kerala, what I feel is that, we must not feel that typical skyscraper hotel chains like elsewhere is something that should be considered. For that experience, a New Yorker doesn't need to come to Kerala, as he can enjoy in his own place.

Rather, we must have our own experiential tourism concept. Infact, Bed and Breakfast scheme is popular throughout the world. Perhaps, one might have more BnBs in England than in Kerala. But our homestay concept is quite unique and far more experiential than typical BnBs. That kind of experience is something one can't get in any Le Meridien or Kempinski.....

What more required is that, providing better training for Homestay operators, ensuring they get noticed well with proper branding and marketing support, providing more eco-friendly and responsible tourism practices etc.

Likewise, niche hotels, boutique hotels are something which we need to look forward.... The concept of privacy combined with serene and romantic is something which we have to sell hard, than mass-grandiose hotels.... That is too needed, for business tourists... But our focus is on those who seek retreat.

Malayaali

February 19th, 2012, 11:31 AM

ഐ.ടിയില് കേരളം ശ്രദ്ധാകേന്ദ്രമെന്ന് നാസ്കോം (http://www.mathrubhumi.com/online/malayalam/news/story/1458884/2012-02-19/kerala)

10 companies express interest to setup operations in Kerala. :cheers:
Posted on: 19 Feb 2012

കൊച്ചി: സാമ്പത്തിക മാന്ദ്യവും കുറഞ്ഞ വളര്ച്ചാനിരക്കുമെല്ലാം ആഗോള വിവര സാങ്കേതിക മേഖലയെ പിടിച്ചുലയ്ക്കുമ്പോഴും ഐ.ടി.രംഗത്ത് 'കേരള ബ്രാന്ഡി'ന് പ്രിയമേറുന്നു. കുറഞ്ഞ മുതല്മുടക്കിനും മികച്ച മനുഷ്യവിഭവശേഷിക്കുമൊപ്പം അടിസ്ഥാന സൗകര്യങ്ങളിലുണ്ടാകുന്ന വികസനവും കേരളത്തിന് നേട്ടമാകുന്നതായി നാസ്കോം ഇന്ത്യ ലീഡര്ഷിപ്പ് ഫോറത്തില് വിലയിരുത്തല്.

മൂന്ന് ദിവസമായി മുംബൈയില് നടന്ന ഫോറത്തില് കേരളത്തില് പ്രവര്ത്തിക്കാന് താല്പ്പര്യം പ്രകടിപ്പിച്ച് കേരള സംഘത്തെ സമീപിച്ചത് പത്തോളം കമ്പനികളാണ്. ഇത് സംബന്ധിച്ച തുടര് ചര്ച്ചകള് വരും ദിവസങ്ങളില് സംസ്ഥാന സര്ക്കാര് പ്രതിനിധികളുടെ മേല്നോട്ടത്തില് നടക്കും.

മറ്റ് രാജ്യങ്ങളിലെല്ലാം ഐ.ടി വളര്ച്ച പ്രതിസന്ധിയെ നേരിടുകയാണ്. എന്നാല് ഇന്ത്യയില് വളരെ മികച്ച രീതിയിലാണ് ഐ.ടി. വളര്ച്ചയെന്ന് ഫോറം അഭിപ്രായപ്പെട്ടു. ഇന്ത്യയിലെ പ്രമുഖ നഗരങ്ങളില് നിന്ന് ഐ.ടി മേഖല കേരളം പോലുള്ള ചെറു സംസ്ഥാനങ്ങളിലേക്ക് പ്രവര്ത്തനം മാറ്റുകയാണ്. ഉയര്ന്ന പ്രവര്ത്തന ചെലവും തിരക്കുമെല്ലാം ബാംഗ്ലൂരിനെയും ഹൈദരാബാദിനെയും പോലുള്ള നഗരങ്ങള്ക്ക് ദോഷം ചെയ്യുന്നതായും ഫോറത്തില് പങ്കെടുത്തവര് ചൂണ്ടിക്കാട്ടി.

മറ്റ് സംസ്ഥാനങ്ങളെ അപേക്ഷിച്ച് കേരളത്തില് ജീവനക്കാരുടെ കൊഴിഞ്ഞുപോക്ക് നിരക്ക് വളരെ കുറവാണെന്ന് ഫോറത്തിലെ വിവിധ ചര്ച്ചകളില് സംസാരിച്ചവര് ചൂണ്ടിക്കാട്ടി. മറ്റ് സംസ്ഥാനങ്ങളില് ജീവനക്കാരുടെ കൊഴിഞ്ഞുപോക്ക് നിരക്ക് ഏഴ് മുതല് 12 ശതമാനം വരെയാണ്. എന്നാല് കേരളത്തിലിത് മൂന്നര മുതല് അഞ്ച് ശതമാനം വരെ മാത്രമാണ്. എന്നാല് ഐ.ടി.അനുബന്ധ സേവന മേഖലയില് കേരളം വേണ്ടത്ര ശ്രദ്ധ കാണിക്കുന്നില്ലെന്നും ഐ.ടി.മേഖലയിലെ വിദഗ്ധര് അഭിപ്രായപ്പെട്ടു. ഐ.ടി.ക്കൊപ്പം തന്നെ ശ്രദ്ധ കേന്ദ്രീകരിക്കേണ്ട മേഖലയാണിത്. ഒട്ടേറെ വികസന സാധ്യതകളും തൊഴിലവസരങ്ങളുമുള്ള ഈ രംഗത്ത് കേരളം ഇനിയും മുന്നേറാനുണ്ടെന്നും ഫോറം ചൂണ്ടിക്കാട്ടി.

കേരളത്തില് നിന്നും സംസ്ഥാന സര്ക്കാരിന്റെയും വിവിധ ഐ.ടി കമ്പനികളുടെയും പ്രതിനിധികള് ലീഡര്ഷിപ്പ് ഫോറത്തിലുണ്ടായിരുന്നു. തിരുവനന്തപുരം ടെക്നോപാര്ക്ക് സിഇഒ ഗിരീഷ്ബാബു, ഇന്ഫോപാര്ക്ക് സിഇഒ ജിജോ ജോസഫ് തുടങ്ങിയവരും ഫോറത്തില് പങ്കെടുത്തു.

moncy

February 20th, 2012, 07:29 AM

Kerala may use monkeys to pluck coconuts

February 20, 2012
By Nadeesh Kareemadathil
Correspondent
Thrissur

Monkeys may soon “officially” pluck coconuts in the state as they do in Sri Lanka or south-east Asia. A proposal for “requisitioning” the “services” of monkeys will soon be presented to the government by two agriculture officers.
This will be a part of the steps being initiated or contemplated by the Coconut Development Board (CDB) that has already introduced mechanised climbing of the trees, and has even formed collective workforces called “Chengathikootam”.
As the state is facing a serious shortage of men who adopted plucking of coconuts as their vocation, and of men who can climb the tall trees, many appear disinterested in the cultivation of coconut. Hence, the initiatives.
Agriculture deputy director K.R. Vijayakumar and principal agriculture officer V.K. Raju have mooted the “monkey plan”, as also the proposal for the setting up of a training centre for monkeys. They say the government would do well to establish a “training school” for monkeys with the help of the “foreign faculty” from Sumatra (Indonesia) or Thailand.
The training centre can have a group of monkeys enrolled for the training for three to four months. The trainer would develop a close bond with the monkeys by using kind words and positive emotions which give them the ability to sense things and understand commands properly. “It is like the training that’s given to wild elephants when they become experts in picking logs,” says Mr Vijayakumar. Instructions begin with simple tasks such as spinning a coconut on its stem.

Source: deccan chronicle.

moncy

February 20th, 2012, 07:45 AM

http://i41.tinypic.com/2dkqj7.jpg

Source: Deccan chronicle.

Thenga edunna problemvum thirnnu.. Kerala going hi tec

Malayaali

February 20th, 2012, 07:48 AM

Thenga edunna problemvum thirnnu.. Kerala going hi tec

It's not Hi-tech! Its primitive :lol:

കാശ് കൊടുക്കേണ്ടല്ലോ, ഞാന് ഹാപ്പി ;)

moncy

February 20th, 2012, 07:58 AM

It's not Hi-tech! Its primitive :lol:

കാശ് കൊടുക്കേണ്ടല്ലോ, ഞാന് ഹാപ്പി ;)

Hi tech or Primitive , enthellam kanan erikkunnu... Kalavandi varumarikkum :lol::lol: entha late ayi poyathu indonesiayil engananannu ariyan..

Aslesh

February 20th, 2012, 08:13 AM

It's not Hi-tech! Its primitive :lol:

കാശ് കൊടുക്കേണ്ടല്ലോ, ഞാന് ഹാപ്പി ;)

Definitely you have to pay money to its owner/trainers. Like we do for elephants.

Malayaali

February 20th, 2012, 09:16 AM

Definitely you have to pay money to its owner/trainers. Like we do for elephants.

അറിയാം മാഷേ! നമുക്ക് ഒരെണ്ണത്തെ വാങ്ങി വളര്ത്തിയാല് മതിയല്ലോ! :)

murlee

February 20th, 2012, 02:51 PM

Guys... What happened to the treasure in Padmanabaswamy temple?? There is not much talk about that in the media now-a-days..

Is anything covered in the local media??

Xeno Axe

February 20th, 2012, 03:24 PM

Guys... What happened to the treasure in Padmanabaswamy temple?? There is not much talk about that in the media now-a-days..

Is anything covered in the local media??

The inventory and documentation of the treasures started today.

See the Trivandrum forum for more details. There is a thread for the temple. :)

murlee

February 20th, 2012, 03:34 PM

Thanks Xeno!

RajeshVR

February 20th, 2012, 09:26 PM

Rs 4,000-crore worth illegal gold trade thrives in state (http://www.deccanchronicle.com/channels/cities/thiruvananthapuram/rs-4000-crore-worth-illegal-gold-trade-thrives-state-908)

^^

No wonder 2 gold merchants have already purchased private aircrafts. We can expect more from these guys :)

vinod/kakka

February 20th, 2012, 09:32 PM

^^ And no sales tax is collected even from the "official" gold sales channels, but we do collect sales tax on cancer medications and hawaii chappals.

maheshponneth

February 21st, 2012, 04:13 AM

Rs 4,000-crore worth illegal gold trade thrives in state

An underground gold trade, unofficially estimated to be worth at least Rs 4,000 crore or 20 percent of the mainstream gold trade, is thriving in this gold-crazy state.

It is the tonnes of gold pledged in private finance companies that finds its way into the warehouses of these underground traders.

The parallel business functions on the basis of the ‘friend in need’ principle. These traders, without bidding, come to the aid of those finding it impossible to cough up the money required to take back their pledged gold.

They are willing to pay even the interest that has accrued over the months or years the gold was locked in the bank. And then they express a willingness to purchase the re-claimed gold at the prevailing market rate.

A win-win situation. Jewellery thieves have found this the most convenient hassle-free route to convert stolen gold into cash.

The gold is then transported to a central godown from where it is fanned out to households on the basis of the orders placed.

There are no showrooms, only a large network of young sales executives. In underground jargon, the sales model is termed the ayyan shrinkala or the ‘youth network’.

The payyans or the young sales executive does the door-to-door canvassing and place orders at the central storehouse. The gold reaches your doorstep at prices far lower than the market rate.

The soliciting of customers happens right in the open. The classifieds pages of major dailies are sprinkled with words of such ‘friends in need’ with their mobile numbers.

However, commercial sales tax commissioner Suman Billa admits his helplessness. “We have no way to net them.

They effectively work out of the system,” he told DC. A source said that the mobile phones the sales executives are given are purchased on fake addresses and even this is changed every month.
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dc (http://www.deccanchronicle.com/channels/cities/thiruvananthapuram/rs-4000-crore-worth-illegal-gold-trade-thrives-state-908)ithum koodi onnu vayikkanam. Avare kuttam parayan pattilla. karanam Government itself supports them for their benefit. This is not only in jwellery sector, almost all sectors have this kind of problems.

Malayaali

February 21st, 2012, 05:13 AM

Traders to go global with ‘Made in Kerala’ tag (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/Traders-to-go-global-with-Made-in-Kerala-tag/articleshow/11971625.cms)
KOCHI: Painting Kerala's growing industrial might before the world will require more than intense shades of green. It will take efficient quality control, a green tag for the best products and a deserving attribution.

The 'Made in Kerala' label should do just that. The Confederation of Indian Industry (CII), along with the Kerala government, is planning to issue 'Made in Kerala' labels for select products and services from the southern state.

Along the lines of 'fairtrade' labelling, the new label will be used to market products or services which are "green, egalitarian and accepted by the local community". Jose Dominic, chairman of CII's Kerala chapter, told TOI that the labelled products would be aimed at premium customers in domestic and global markets.

"Made in Kerala will represent a spectrum of related values - green, non-polluting, eco-friendly, organic, healthy, participative, compliant with the laws of the land, transparent, made with zero child labour, premium, among others," Dominic said.

'Made in Kerala', said Dominic, represents a unique competitive advantage that has the potential to attract investments into certain highvalue industries generating employment in both manufacturing and service sectors.

However, experts say the positioning of such products in domestic and global markets will be tricky. "This type of brand will succeed in the global markets only if it has the premium image that comes with the green, egalitarian and organic attributes of the products. For the pricesensitive domestic consumer, these attributes may not work now. However, these products may find premium consumers even in India," said Sumit Mitra, associate professor of strategic management at the Indian Institute of Management, Kozhikode.

To promote the concept of branding premium products and services out of Kerala, CII will conduct a 'Made in Kerala Conference' on March 10. CII has also laid plans for a 'Made in Kerala Foundation' to oversee branding and labelling activities on the side.

DileepKS

February 21st, 2012, 05:39 AM

Remember seeing a part of a movie while channel surfing, where Prithviraj acts as one such ornament dealers.

ajithv

February 22nd, 2012, 07:27 AM

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/9730/hsnp.jpg

Source: Metro Manorama

abhilashtvpm

February 22nd, 2012, 08:55 AM

Performance evaluation system soon

THIRUVANANTHAPURAM: Taking a cue from countries like UK, New Zealand and Malaysia, the State Planning and Economics Affairs Department is set to evaluate the performance of all government departments in Kerala.This means that all ministers and departments will become more accountable as a quantitative analysis with points on performance of their respective departments, will be put on the public domain after each fiscal.

“Kerala is the first state in the country to introduce a comprehensive performance monitoring and evaluation system, Results Framework Document (RFD), which was given to all departments last September. The first review meeting will be held in April and after tabulating the performance for the financial year, marks will be awarded to each department out of a total of 100. This system will make each minister and department heads more accountable,’’ said Subrata Biswas, Secretary, State Planning and Economic Affairs Department.

RFD provides a summary of the most important results that a department expects to achieve during the financial year.The marks will be presented in a five-point scale - Excellent = 100 per cent - 96 per cent Very Good = 95 per cent - 86 per cent, Good = 85 per cent - 76 per cent, Fair = 75 per cent - 66 per cent, Poor = 65 per cent and below.Biswas said that RFD would shift the focus of the department from process-orientation to result-orientation and provide a basis to evaluate the overall performance of departments at the end of the year.

“What is now being practised is evaluation of departments based on spending. Under the new system, the overall performance of each department will be evaluated. An ad hoc committee of the Union Government will be conducting a third party evaluation in April,’’ he said.Kerala State Planning Board vice-chairman K M Chandrashekar told ‘Express’ that the basic concept of such performance monitoring is to make each department more proactive.
“Usually officials tend to be reactive.

A performance evaluation system will make them proactive. In the beginning of every year, they will be asked to list the objectives that the department wants to carry out. At the end of the year, the performance will be evaluated after discussions by an expert panel comprising of academics, management experts and resource persons,’’ he said.He said that every three months the departments will be asked to review their objectives as outside factors like a financial crisis can play a role in governance.

IBN (http://ibnlive.in.com/news/performance-evaluation-system-soon/232687-60-116.html)

Aslesh

February 22nd, 2012, 09:07 AM

Fishermen killed in Kerala: mediation on behalf of Cardinal Alencherry and Catholic Ministers (http://www.fides.org/aree/news/newsdet.php?idnews=31049&lan=eng)
A story of a Catholic Cardinal, Catholic Fishermen, Catholic K.V. Thomas and Catholic Ministers in Government of Kerala. :doh:

SajithVijayan

February 22nd, 2012, 09:52 AM

binujoseph

February 22nd, 2012, 07:28 PM

Punish the guilty, says Cardinal Alencherry (http://ibnlive.in.com/news/punish-the-guilty-says-cardinal-alencherry/232749-62.html)

Kochi: Cardinal Mar George Alencherry issued a press statement on Wednesday after an alleged remark by him on the fishermen deaths sparked a controversy. The Cardinal said, "The report of the Italian press agency is wrong. The agency removed the report and expressed their apology for the mistake. I have not tried to intervene in this matter, nor have I contacted any ministers regarding this."He added, "Two precious lives have been lost. Strong legal action should be taken against the guilty."In a report published by an Italian news agency on Wednesday, Alencherry was quoted as saying that the Kerala government must not "precipitate action" on the issue, and that the Opposition in Kerala might look to "exploit" the situation.
Alencherry, an archbishop from Kerala, was recently ordained as a Cardinal in Rome.Father Babu Joseph, Spokesperson, Catholic Bishops Conference of India too said that Alencherry had been misquoted."The Cardinal has in no way intervened. We should let it rest at that and let the two governments deal with the situation. The Indian government and other sources are saying that he was misquoted.I think we should move on from this. Misquotation is not exclusive to the Indian media, it can happen anywhere in the world," the reverend said.Chief Minister Oomen Chandy, meanwhile, refused to be drawn into the controversy. He merely said that the Syro Malabar Church had refuted the reports and therefore, he was not going to say anything on the matter.He, however, added, "The police is seriously questioning the culprits. We will continue to take all action under the IPC. There is a lot of concern about the security of fishermen. We are calling a high level meeting with the Coast Guard and the Navy. We will not let the guilty escape from here."
Opposition leader in Kerala Assembly VS Achuthanandan, meanwhile, said that the statement of the Cardinal was condemnable, if he had made such a remark. "If the statement was true, it showed that the Cardinal was with the persons who killed and not with the victims. The Cardinal tried to justify the incident more than the Italian authorities," he said.Referring to the Cardinal's alleged remark that the Opposition would try to "exploit" the situation, he said it was unexpected that such an "irresponsible statement came from a person like the Cardinal".The Syro Malabar Church of Kerala, however, said that the Cardinal was keen that both India and Italy resolve the matter in a "peaceful and amicable" manner. A spokesman of the church, Father Paul Thelekat, told PTI in Kochi that he had spoken to the Cardinal following the controversy over his reported statement.

RajeshVR

February 22nd, 2012, 10:45 PM

DileepKS

February 23rd, 2012, 01:51 AM

franclin

February 23rd, 2012, 05:28 AM

Commually charged statements from the tread should be deleted !

RajeshNair

February 23rd, 2012, 05:30 AM

Malayaali

February 23rd, 2012, 06:06 AM

Commually charged statements from the tread should be deleted !

+ 1

Politics can be discussed, but better to keep Faith/Religion out of SSC.

RajeshVR

February 23rd, 2012, 08:05 AM

These Guineas are worse than the Pakis in giving out false news!! I honestly do not think a catholic bishop would make such utterly foolish statement. They hold allegiance to the holy see, not Italy, and they know very well where their constituency stands.

And Rev Alenchery is in fact a very good guy.

How can you say that? Of course he is a good gentleman from the track record we got from the media . Now you are saying that this Guineas are worse. You always opposing news against rich/famous people. In this forum whether it is Manappuram/Chittilappilly/Eastern curry powder news/Alanchery. I strongly believe he might have told in the glamour of this new position which was given by his boss purely because of his allegiance to the church/Pope. It is natural also. Sayippine kanumbol kavathu marakkuna pazhaya paripadi. .
Now a days it ihs become a fashion to say anything and reject the statement later when it becomes controversy.

Commually charged statements from the tread should be deleted !

This is not communal or political,but the life of two Indian (Malayali)fishermen.
So this must be discussed here, if not where?

Malayaali

February 23rd, 2012, 08:15 AM

This is not communal or political,but the life of two Indian (Malayali)fishermen.
So this must be discussed here, if not where?

If then, stick to it rather deviating it to Catholic Bishop's House! PEACE

Malayaali

February 23rd, 2012, 08:16 AM

Punch for drunk drivers (http://www.deccanchronicle.com/channels/cities/kochi/punch-drunk-drivers-818)
Next time you get into the driver’s seat after gulping down a few drinks, there is a good chance that your licence will get a punch mark.

And when you get three punch marks, the licence will be revoked.

The increase in the number of drunken driving cases and other traffic violations has forced the motor vehicles department to come up with a new system where the licence of the driver will be punched for every offence and the cumulative three punch marks could lead to revocation of the licence.

“Warnings and slapping fines have so far not been effective in curbing offences like drunken driving and talking on the mobile while driving, so we are going in for this punching method,” said the district regional
transport officer, T. J. Thomas.

The new penalty system could be introduced from April.

The government still has to approve it.

Meanwhile, over 200 licences have been suspended by the motor vehicles department in the district and 286 accident deaths have been reported last year.

Aslesh

February 23rd, 2012, 08:30 AM

More private FM Channels coming to Kerala in IIIrd phase bidding
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/462/keralafmn.jpg
Kozhikode - 2 more
Kochi - 1 more
Alappuzha - 4
Kanhangad - 3
Palakkad -3
http://mib.nic.in/writereaddata/html_en_files/fm/PolicyGuidelines_FMPhaseIII.pdf

simpliCITY

February 23rd, 2012, 08:59 AM

+1
. Vatican has nothing to do with Italy any way.
Heheheheeh!! What a joke!! :lol:Vatican is just an imaginary country with a land area of just 108acres inside the downtown Rome!!. People working for Vatican government and Swiss Guards are residents of Rome. Vatican cannot go anything against Italy's interests.

As of now Vatican has population of just 832people. it is not enough for a government to run itself and appoint overseas diplomats. But they can appoint any Cardinal with any other nationality as a Vatican Consulate in any other country. If you think this way you can see Cardinal George Alanchery himself has official tie with Vatican Government. Remember that Pop Benedict 16 was a German Cardinal until he became Pop in 2006.

Appo Italikkare sukhippikkathe avidunnu porunnathenganaa?
Pinne puilvaalu pidichu kazhinjal abhiprayam maatti rakshappeduka ennathu naattunadappalle?

Malayaali

February 23rd, 2012, 09:39 AM

More private FM Channels coming to Kerala in IIIrd phase bidding

Kozhikode - 2 more
Kochi - 1 more
Alappuzha - 4
Kanhangad - 3
Palakkad -3
http://mib.nic.in/writereaddata/html_en_files/fm/PolicyGuidelines_FMPhaseIII.pdf

Is there any rule that a region can't have more than 4 channels?

rajkrish

February 23rd, 2012, 09:39 AM

Heheheheeh!! What a joke!! :lol:Vatican is just an imaginary country with a land area of just 108acres inside the downtown Rome!!. People working for Vatican government and Swiss Guards are residents of Rome. Vatican cannot go anything against Italy's interests.

As of now Vatican has population of just 832people. it is not enough for a government to run itself and appoint overseas diplomats. But they can appoint any Cardinal with any other nationality as a Vatican Consulate in any other country. If you think this way you can see Cardinal George Alanchery himself has official tie with Vatican Government. Remember that Pop Benedict 16 was a German Cardinal until he became Pop in 2006.

Appo Italikkare sukhippikkathe avidunnu porunnathenganaa?
Pinne puilvaalu pidichu kazhinjal abhiprayam maatti rakshappeduka ennathu naattunadappalle?

+1

Aslesh

February 23rd, 2012, 10:07 AM

Is there any rule that a region can't have more than 4 channels?
Yes
http://i41.tinypic.com/qpgxvm.jpg

A+ Métro cities Delhi,Mumbai, Kolkata,Chennai
A Population above 20 lakhs
B Population above 10 lakhs and up to 20 Lakhs
C Population above 3 lakhs and up to 10 Lakhs
D Population above 1 lakh and up to 3 Lakhs
Others Cities with a population upto 1 lakh

Malayaali

February 23rd, 2012, 10:11 AM

^^

Funny that these Radio corporates considering corporation limits for their service!

Aslesh

February 23rd, 2012, 10:18 AM

^^

Funny that these Radio corporates considering corporation limits for their service!

Like other Central govt entities Ministry of Information & Broadcast consider UA population.

Malayaali

February 23rd, 2012, 10:32 AM

Like other Central govt entities Ministry of Information & Broadcast consider UA population.

In that case Kochi & Kozhikode should be in A

Thrissur, Kannur, Thiruvananthapuram should be in B, as per your classifications.

DileepKS

February 23rd, 2012, 10:40 AM

Aslesh

February 23rd, 2012, 10:44 AM

In that case Kochi & Kozhikode should be in A

Thrissur, Kannur, Thiruvananthapuram should be in B, as per your classifications.

This notification came well before census 2011 UA results. Pls check that date in the link given. Also 2011 census results are still provisional not final.

DileepKS

February 23rd, 2012, 10:48 AM

I should admit that I had not realized that the news about the Cardinal's comment was published by the official vatican news agency. I thought it was an Italian agency (hence the Guinea moniker). This fact does change the perspective a lot.

And RajeshVR, I plead "no contest" on your charge that You always opposing news against rich/famous people. In this forum whether it is Manappuram/Chittilappilly/Eastern curry powder news/Alanchery.. I take my position on individual issues on their respective merits as I perceive them. You are absolutely entitled to derive any pattern or conclusion from those positions as you perceive.

DileepKS

February 23rd, 2012, 10:55 AM

I am not sure how many radio channels you need.

We have five (including AIR's two), and I listen to only മാങ്ങാത്തൊലി. I have severe allergy to Ranjinish accents and Mollywoodish content, so couldn't take Club and Red. In fact, mango had introduced an RJ with severe Ranjinitis (looks like a member of the owner family) on 7:00pm slot, which made me tune out promptly on her. She was removed within a couple of months.

Aslesh

February 23rd, 2012, 11:03 AM

Malayaali

February 23rd, 2012, 11:07 AM

This notification came well before census 2011 UA results. Pls check that date in the link given. Also 2011 census results are still provisional not final.
Thanks for the clarification Aslesh.
We have five (including AIR's two), and I listen to only മാങ്ങാത്തൊലി. I have severe allergy to Ranjinish accents and Mollywoodish content, so couldn't take Club and Red. In fact, mango had introduced an RJ with severe Ranjinitis (looks like a member of the owner family) on 7:00pm slot, which made me tune out promptly on her. She was removed within a couple of months.
I have felt Malayalam FM's in Dubai provide much better and value programs than in Kochi!

For e.g: Hit FM 96.7 (https://www.facebook.com/hit967)

DileepKS

February 23rd, 2012, 11:08 AM

Well, the Cardinal claimed that Fides appologized to him, but they just published a clarification for the public

http://www.fides.org/aree/news/newsdet.php?idnews=31062&lan=eng

Rome (Agenzia Fides) - "Truth and Justice" on the case of the fishermen killed in Kerala on February 15: this is what Cardinal George Alencherry, Major Archbishop of the Syro-malabrese Church, based in Kerala asks for in an interview with Fides.
The Cardinal today released the following statement to Fides: “I would like to precise my views reported by the news agency “Fides” regarding the incident in which two fishermen were killed in the sea. This event has to be investigated and if there is a culpable action it has to be dealt with legally and the culprits have to be punished. Truth and justice have to be established. What I said the other day parenthetically was that this event shall not become a cause for conflicts and enemity in the communities and between nations. I have no intention to take a mediatory role in the setting of this matter”. (PA) (Agenzia Fides 22/2/2012)

RajeshVR

February 23rd, 2012, 11:59 AM

Del.

mohammedirshad06

February 23rd, 2012, 02:21 PM

It is UA, otherwise, Kochi would be C class, right?

Even UA concept breaks down in Kerala. The Kochi channels cover Kottayam also, as well as the new UA of Kothamangalam. It fignts by signal with the transmitters of Thrissur, resulting in funny reception around chalakudy and Kodungalloor. Alapuzha is going to be worse, unless they use different frequencies.

I have tried out Club FM 94.3 near Chalakuddy in NH.... You will hear mixed programs from both Kochi and Thrissur stations, making too difficult to follow.... I remember, hearing Onnam Ragam Padi song with a Hindi music in between its layers, making a prefect blend for ears.... Some sort of Jugalbandi....

I always wonder, why the radio providers adopt a Pan Kerala approach like televisions or much like any Malayalam radio service in UAE..... Going city wise, doesn't improve anything....

Content wise, UAE Radios, particularly HIT FM stands out extremely well especially when we compare with amaturish Kerala radio....In Kerala, FM Owners believes, only teens are going to hear their bull-shit.....

They should appear more logical, more engaging and more pan-Kerala approach, than talking about Kadavanthara's drain opening or other kiddish topics

ak.army

February 23rd, 2012, 02:21 PM

Its not about Religion,its a social issue.Dont mix both of these and ask for deleting the posts.Nobody is attacking any religion.Its just the individual who made a statement against the interest of the nation who happens to be a cardinal.Its not blasphemous to question a indl who ironically has let down people from own faith.No Cardinal or mullah or pandit has any damn business in poking their nose in issues wr they are not supposed to.The law of the land prevails.Not even God can interfere let alone the preachers.

Aslesh

February 23rd, 2012, 03:44 PM

I have tried out Club FM 94.3 near Chalakuddy in NH.... You will hear mixed programs from both Kochi and Thrissur stations, making too difficult to follow.... I remember, hearing Onnam Ragam Padi song with a Hindi music in between its layers, making a prefect blend for ears.... Some sort of Jugalbandi....

I always wonder, why the radio providers adopt a Pan Kerala approach like televisions or much like any Malayalam radio service in UAE..... Going city wise, doesn't improve anything....

Content wise, UAE Radios, particularly HIT FM stands out extremely well especially when we compare with amaturish Kerala radio....In Kerala, FM Owners believes, only teens are going to hear their bull-shit.....

They should appear more logical, more engaging and more pan-Kerala approach, than talking about Kadavanthara's drain opening or other kiddish topics

I can't agree with you on pan-Kerala approach. FM should continue to provide region specific content. I never hear anything about Kannur in our TV channels unless some one chop somebodies head off. It's all about Trivandrum and Kochi news. Nothing about malabar except for Nattuvarthakal in Manorama News. Even there it's all about Kozhikode. Where as FM channels in Kannur always speak about Kannur. That is why these guys are welcomed whole heartedly when they organise some events or road shows. When TV channel guys visit we feel like foreigners or aliens. No need of any pan-Kerala approach in FM. Have to be city specific or else they will fail. I think Manorama and Mathrubhumi started metro pages in their dailies when they identified the huge demand of region/city specific content through their FM channels.

mohammedirshad06

February 23rd, 2012, 03:46 PM

Well,

I don't know whether Cardinal has said so or not.... By the time, I checked the link, the original article was removed.... So only have heard what others says in media....

In normal context, we have a reason/logic to believe that what said first might be the original and later withdrawn or be blamed upon media for misintrepreting as regularly done by all, when original comments go into controversy.

But here, right from beginning Italian Media as whole has taken a very strong defensive position.... They have even gone far ahead to call, there is a HOME GROWN PIRACY in India, which by any logic is utmost overdoing... They are busy picturizing what the Italian Marines did was right and Indians doing wrong. Check google news to understand and if possible translate all Italian Newspapers/blogs using Google Translate....

When a media of one country as whole take a highly partisan stand, how can we expect their media reporting a statement of Cardinal free and fair, especially when he is an Indian and from the state where the incident happened? In every logic, its sure, they will over-do the statement, to gain utmost advantage.....

I don't think, a Cardinal, that too highly educated and who have spend most of his time here in Kerala, dealing with local issues, will openly say before media, that HE WILL INFLUENCE CATHOLIC MINISTERS.... Even a layman won't say like that....

Perhaps at the most, the Cardinal might have said, he would be pleased to intermediate into the issue and solve it , before Communists picturize it as Imperialism and use for elections to garner Catholic/Christians votes in their favour, which the Italian Media might have picturized as he would see Italians go scoot-free.....

Well, surely I stand with what Latin Catholic Archbishop said, the Catholics will never hear even if Vatican askes so, as its not a Church's matter, rather State matter.....

mohammedirshad06

February 23rd, 2012, 04:01 PM

I can't agree with you on pan-Kerala approach. FM should continue to provide region specific content. I never hear anything about Kannur in our TV channels unless some one chop somebodies head off. It's all about Trivandrum and Kochi news. Nothing about malabar except for Nattuvarthakal in Manorama News. Even there it's all about Kozhikode. Where as FM channels in Kannur always speak about Kannur. That is why these guys are welcomed whole heartedly when they organise some events or road shows. When TV channel guys visit we feel like foreigners or aliens. No need of any pan-Kerala approach in FM. Have to be city specific or else they will fail. I think Manorama and Mathrubhumi started metro pages in their dailies when they identified the huge demand of region/city specific content through their FM channels.

May be true.... One thing of Radio culture of India is that, there is NO NEWS content... I think, its prohibitted in India, unlike UAE where you have news slots at every half an hour basis....

So technically speaking, in India, FMs are developed as something like Teens/youngsters service..... But when going with too localized versions, the quality has denoriated to greater levels..... Well, the word quality level differs from person to person and experience to experience...

For many local listeners, I feel that service seems to be highly adequate and of best quality. But as a person, who have listened to similar Malayalam radio in Gulf, I won't call it best, especially on comparison..... I think, you too will tell this, if you hear Hit FM atleast for few hours and compare with any local FM radio.... Perhaps, a US guy will mock at Hit FM, when he compares with his service in US... Thats the world....

Going by localized version of content, it makes little sense, as none of them are technically allowed to speak on public/news value content.... So they opt too kiddish topics for providing a localized feel.... Just for example, I have heard Radio Mango, discussing one hour exclusively for a name board of Cochin Corporation.... Ofcourse, that discussion helped the Corporation to change the old dilapidated board to a new one.... But it makes no sense or much entertainment value...

Rather they can discuss more popular common things, which is local free.... One or two hour for own city discussion can be done, only which each city station being used. Rest all content can be jointly developed and presented together, may be region wise....

Rather having city based, especially like ours as each city borders touches to another so closely, makes too hard and boring..... Especially during travel times, we hear more radio... If programs changes based on cities, surely that rasa charadu will be lost!!!!

RKPV

February 23rd, 2012, 04:18 PM

How come...??? !!
Mathrubhumi Club FM have a different frequency in Trissur- 104.8.
It might be Mango or RED.

I have tried out Club FM 94.3 near Chalakuddy in NH.... You will hear mixed programs from both Kochi and Thrissur stations, making too difficult to follow.... I remember, hearing Onnam Ragam Padi song with a Hindi music in between its layers, making a prefect blend for ears.... Some sort of Jugalbandi....

RKPV

February 23rd, 2012, 04:29 PM

Kollam and Malappuram missed out the chance. Malappuram, since it is a 20+ UA now and already an AIR facility there at Manjeri. Hope Alappuzha will serve for Kottayam -Changanassery-Thiruvalla too.

More private FM Channels coming to Kerala in IIIrd phase bidding
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/462/keralafmn.jpg
Kozhikode - 2 more
Kochi - 1 more
Alappuzha - 4
Kanhangad - 3
Palakkad -3
http://mib.nic.in/writereaddata/html_en_files/fm/PolicyGuidelines_FMPhaseIII.pdf

mohammedirshad06

February 23rd, 2012, 04:31 PM

How come...??? !!
Mathrubhumi Club FM have a different frequency in Trissur- 104.8.
It might be Mango or RED.

Is it so?.... I didn't knew.... I remember lot of mixing happens, while driving in NH 47 near Chalakkudy.... Infact, I basically donot hear much of Indian radios as I hate the kiddish talks, except when driving alone to keep me engaged.... I still remember how songs overlap each other when reaching the border... I guessed it could be because of same frequency of two stations.......

ajithv

February 23rd, 2012, 04:42 PM

^^
In the beginning,RED FM has the same frequency (93.5 MHz) for all FM Stations.Because of the overlapping of the frequency,later they switched to 91.1 MHz in Thrissur.

Now Radio Mango (91.9 MHz) has the problem with overlapping in Thrissur in Kunnamkulam/Chavakkad areas with the Kozhikode one.

Aslesh

February 23rd, 2012, 04:43 PM

Kollam and Malappuram missed out the chance. Malappuram, since it is a 20+ UA now and already an AIR facility there at Manjeri. Hope Alappuzha will serve for Kottayam -Changanassery-Thiruvalla too.

I wonder why Manjeri and Devikulam where left out when they already have AIR FM stations. Private FM stations in Kanhangad and Palakkad have to wait until AIR FM stations are constructed. Malappuram UA was bigger than Kanhangad in 2001. May be distance is also a criterion?

Aslesh

February 23rd, 2012, 04:47 PM

ajithv

February 23rd, 2012, 04:52 PM

^^
Even in some areas of Trivandrum & Kollam, you have the overlapping of RED FM (93.5 MHz) with Suryan FM (93.5 MHz) of Thirunelveli....
Imagine "Daddy Mummy Veettil Illa..." from Suryan FM overlaps with "Paadilla Paadilla Namme Nammal..." of RED FM...:lol:

RKPV

February 23rd, 2012, 05:16 PM

Pothu janathinittu pani kodukkan oru vadi koode aayi.
Ithu nerathe kandu pidichirunnenkil- Ethenkilum kuttakruthyam nadannal vegam ettavum aduthulla kallu kudiyane angu pidichal mathiyayirunnallo...:ohno:

Kallane pidikkan ethayalum kazhivilla. Kallu kudiyane eluppam pidikkamallo:nuts:

http://www.mathrubhumi.com/story.php?id=253961

ട്രെയിനില്* മദ്യപിച്ച് യാത്ര ചെയ്യുന്നവര്*ക്ക് തടവുശിക്ഷ

Posted on: 23 Feb 2012

തിരുവനന്തപുരം: ട്രെയിനില്* മദ്യപിച്ച് യാത്ര ചെയ്യുന്നവര്*ക്ക് ആറ് മാസം തടവും പിഴശിക്ഷയും ലഭിക്കുമെന്ന് റെയില്*വെ. മദ്യപിച്ച് റെയില്*വെ പ്ലാറ്റ്*ഫോമില്* പോലും പ്രവേശിക്കരുതെന്നും ആര്*.പി.എഫ് സേഫ്റ്റി കമ്മീഷണര്* കെ.ജെ.ജോയി പറഞ്ഞു. ട്രെയിനില്* വെച്ചോ റെയില്*വെ പ്ലാറ്റ്*ഫോമില്* വെച്ചോ മദ്യപിച്ചിട്ടുണ്ടെന്ന് കണ്ടെത്തിയാല്* ആറ് മാസം വരെ തടവുശിക്ഷ ലഭിക്കും.

RajeshNair

February 23rd, 2012, 11:31 PM

[QUOTE=RKPV;88819923]Pothu janathinittu pani kodukkan oru vadi koode aayi.
Ithu nerathe kandu pidichirunnenkil- Ethenkilum kuttakruthyam nadannal vegam ettavum aduthulla kallu kudiyane angu pidichal mathiyayirunnallo...:ohno:

Kallane pidikkan ethayalum kazhivilla. Kallu kudiyane eluppam pidikkamallo:nuts:

This again proves that RPF is on antiquated force which doesn't serve any real purpose. Are they going to take action if the railway employees does the same. I don't think so. They can remove a person from the train if he is inebriated. A guy who has a couple of drinks before a long journey should not have to go through this nonsense breatalyzer test and so on.
What next, ban all the disabled people who use the railway since Govindachamy was disabled.
:cheers:

sanjupalayat

February 24th, 2012, 02:15 AM

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RajeshVR

February 24th, 2012, 11:45 AM

ak.army

February 24th, 2012, 01:30 PM

sudheeshnairs

February 24th, 2012, 02:20 PM

^^No, Surya news was ridiculing this yesterday. And as per legal experts, this will not hold good.

BTW our society is not matured enough, that’s why we see all this kind of bull shit.

Anyway I dont think even if made a law, it will not be practical in Indian context:lol: We do drink after driving or while driving or even while travelling by train for years. And it will continue so. Only one thing should be adhered to; വെള്ളമടിച്ചാല്* വയറ്റില്* കിടക്കണം.

ajithv

February 24th, 2012, 05:08 PM

^^
If someone won't come to railway station or platform after a drink..But he can take drink (within a limit) on board without anybody's knowledge.(Can see so many examples of such techniques while you travel in a train ;) )
What RPF will do? :nuts:

sudheeshnairs

February 24th, 2012, 08:53 PM

I use to drink at least four pegs esp while I am travelling alone. Mix vodka with sprite. And if you are in a lower side berth in a 2 nd AC coach, the merrier.

vinod/kakka

February 24th, 2012, 11:59 PM

I have had very bad experiences from drunk people on long distance trains - Once travelling from Bombay to Trivandrum as a bachelor, when a couple of people were trying to harass a bunch of nursing students, and once travelling with family including small kids - a guy was trying to act smart with a lady travelling alone with a kid.
There should be a way for RPF to deal with people causing trouble on trains, whether drunk or not.

DileepKS

February 25th, 2012, 01:38 AM

It is a good idea. Why?

1. I don't drink, so I have no problem with the law.
2. I hate drunks creating problems. (I don't have any problem with കുടിച്ച വെള്ളം വയറ്റില്* തന്നെ കിടക്കുന്നവര്*)
3. This law will prevent drunks weaseling out "but I didn't do nothing onlee".

Of course, some nice guys, like Sudheesh, who drink but cause no problem, may end up in trouble. Hey!! Isn't drinking a vice? Isn't drinking bad for you? So, it is good that you are motivated not to drink!!

sudheeshnairs

February 25th, 2012, 03:34 AM

DileepKS

February 25th, 2012, 06:28 AM

^^Hey, I agree on everything except "And it is an idiot who said it is a vice".

ak.army

February 25th, 2012, 07:08 AM

Our society has not grown up. They dont know how to enjoy a drink responsibly. And it is an idiot who said it is a vice. Vellamadichal vayattil kidakkanam, allathe mattullavarude mel kuthira kayararathu.

I hate people who make noise after drinks. And mostly for guys back home drinking is making noise in a group. The effect of your drink should not be evident on your behaviour.

Sadly in our country the drinking culture is very primitive; and in kerala we are yet to graduate from OPR/OCR.

Bangalore is unique in India in this and it gives a social drinker lots of good options for a healthy & vibrant lifestyle. Here even Govt bodies promotes festivities like Wine Festival or Oktoberfest like Germany.
Fully agree with you..In kerala i have seen people drinking to create ruckus..their aim of drinking is not met if they dont act like pigs..it gives them bragging rights amongst their peer groups.and jave u seen a malayali drinking..its as if they are taking a tequila shot.and dont forget the touchings...one shoud learn how to drink and then go for it.....I must make one thing clear for teetotallers...drinking doesnt make a man act differently unless that person wants to do it deliberately..those who enjoy their pegs will agree with me.Remember even gods used to take madira if u read puranas..

ak.army

February 25th, 2012, 07:10 AM

And forget one point if u travel in long distance trains,TTEs and RPf people go to sleep after few pegs down...and those who are in WL and req conf berth dont forget to take a cheap OCR/Honeybee/Old monk..

maheshponneth

February 25th, 2012, 07:17 AM

Aslesh

February 25th, 2012, 07:23 AM

^^ Salman Khan too. :lol:

sudheeshnairs

February 25th, 2012, 07:43 AM

.I must make one thing clear for teetotallers...drinking doesnt make a man act differently unless that person wants to do it deliberately..those who enjoy their pegs will agree with me.Remember even gods used to take madira if u read puranas..

Nice to hear this friend, and nice to see guys who think alike. Today is weekend, hope we could have sat for a few rounds of scotch if you were here in Bangalore.:cheers:

^^Hey, I agree on everything except "And it is an idiot who said it is a vice".

Hey Dileep, drinking per se is not a vice, if that is so, many things in life, starting from fast food would be vice.

You can have your opinion, but it doesn’t mean it is true. Moderate drinking is not harmful, and to some extent it will help to reduce your LDL and increase HDL. Reservatol in red wine is good for heart. And yes, അധികമായാല്* അമൃതും വിഷം

Of course, in general, with respect to Indian/kerala context, esp among the drinking habits of middle class and lower class, I agree that it is more of a vice. You cannot have the same measuring ‘scale’ for all.

ajithv

February 25th, 2012, 07:47 AM

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ajithv

February 25th, 2012, 07:47 AM

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ak.army

February 25th, 2012, 08:34 AM

Nice to hear this friend, and nice to see guys who think alike. Today is weekend, hope we could have sat for a few rounds of scotch if you were here in Bangalore.:cheers:
Man i am far away from Bangalore...anyway thanks for the offer

sudheeshnairs

February 25th, 2012, 08:53 AM

^^Ya, thats what I told:cheers:

mohammedirshad06

February 25th, 2012, 08:58 AM

Nice to hear this friend, and nice to see guys who think alike. Today is weekend, hope we could have sat for a few rounds of scotch if you were here in Bangalore.:cheers:

Hey Dileep, drinking per se is not a vice, if that is so, many things in life, starting from fast food would be vice.

You can have your opinion, but it doesn’t mean it is true. Moderate drinking is not harmful, and to some extent it will help to reduce your LDL and increase HDL. Reservatol in red wine is good for heart. And yes, അധികമായാല്* അമൃതും വിഷം

Of course, in general, with respect to Indian/kerala context, esp among the drinking habits of middle class and lower class, I agree that it is more of a vice. You cannot have the same measuring ‘scale’ for all.

Well, the key issue is over-drinking, not social drinking..... Infact, over a period of time, in Kerala, the drinking habits have changed to over-drinking.... It could be traced to more complicated social pressures, teen pressures as well as availablity of liquor shops everywhere..... Infact, even if the taxation is higher, one thing must be noted, the purchasing power of Malayalees are too higher.... Hence it won't solve the key issues.

Infact, I don't understand, why should one drink in train or while travelling.... Perhaps having a peg or two is somewhat understandable. But thats the not the case..... Now a days, we see many of them, young or old take some sort of alchol while travelling in trains.... I have been to several European Countries where Liquor is part and parcel of their social life. Yet never seen the alochol in unnessecary places like travelling etc.... Yes, they have made it as a food habit... But in Kerala, its over-drinking, a cultural issue to be addressed.

Along with strict laws and policies, even cultural awarness and voluntary reduction should be made....

A railway station law merely won't help, unless the Govt brings up more stringent laws.

1. Liquor only available under Liquor permit system, a sort of ration card, which divides can restricts quota per month, based on age and income basis, for purchase of liqour from Bevaco

2. Double or triple taxations, which additional luxury and service taxes for liquor taken from hotel bars. Foreigners can get rebates, at time of exit from Kerala thro' tax refunds thro' online basis.....

3. Bars only be allowed in 4 star and 5 star restaurants and hotels. Beer, branded Toddy(Kallu) and Wines may be available thro' supermarkets, beer parlours and openly, with or without licences.

4. Govt policy, for not paying not even single penny for those who die/lose eyesight for drinking illicit liquor procured for unauthorized sources. If from authorized centers, yes it has to be dealt sharply.

5. Possession more liquor than permits or without permit, hefty fines and jail punishment

6. Reduction of operating times of bars and bevaco stores from Morning 10 to Afternoon 1 pm as well as from 3 PM to 7 PM in evenings..... Bars in 4 star and 5 star hotels can function upto 11 PM or 12 Midnight. Kallu shops can function upto 9 PM.

6. Social awareness and campaigns to reduce intakes....

7. Promotion of more mocktails and light spirited cocktails as an alternative to hard spirits.......

maheshponneth

February 25th, 2012, 09:14 AM

^^Government thanne over drinkinginu support cheyyunna ikkalathu thankalude suggestions nadannathu thanne:lol:

RajeshVR

February 25th, 2012, 10:16 AM

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ട്രെയിനില് മദ്യപിച്ച് യാത്ര ചെയ്യുന്നവര്ക്ക് തടവുശിക്ഷ

RajeshVR

February 25th, 2012, 11:17 AM

Infact, I don't understand, why should one drink in train or while travelling.... Perhaps having a peg or two is somewhat understandable. But thats the not the case.....

Yes it relax your journey , especially if it is a long one where you have nothing to do particularly apart from some movies and music.
If drinks can be served in flights why some one can not travel in train after consuming a peg? This rule is strange .One more law made to break!

I have been to several European Countries where Liquor is part and parcel of their social life. Yet never seen the alochol in unnessecary places like travelling etc.... Yes, they have made it as a food habit... But in Kerala, its over-drinking, a cultural issue to be addressed.
Hot drinks are available in almost all shops in European countries , even in small convenient/corner shops. Any one above the age of 16 can buy it, provided they have to produce a photo identity card to prove the age.

1. Liquor only available under Liquor permit system, a sort of ration card, which divides can restricts quota per month, based on age and income basis, for purchase of liqour from Bevaco
I have seen this in Gulf countries. I know some Arababs/Sponsors issue certificates to their laborers with high salaries to get liquor permit. That liquor will be consumed by the Arabs as they are not legally permitted due to religious restrictions!

2. Double or triple taxations, which additional luxury and service taxes for liquor taken from hotel bars. Foreigners can get rebates, at time of exit from Kerala thro' tax refunds thro' online basis.....

This will lead to illicit liquor production and death due to liquor poisoning.

3. Bars only be allowed in 4 star and 5 star restaurants and hotels. Beer, branded Toddy(Kallu) and Wines may be available thro' supermarkets, beer parlours and openly, with or without licences.

The huge unfulfilled demand for booze which drives supply underground into an unregulated industry.

4. Govt policy, for not paying not even single penny for those who die/lose eyesight for drinking illicit liquor procured for unauthorized sources. If from authorized centers, yes it has to be dealt sharply.

The money giving following the death due to illicit liquor poisoning is mainly meant for the helpless family dependents not for the diseased. So it has to be continued and will be continued.

5. Possession more liquor than permits or without permit, hefty fines and jail punishment

Absolutely.

6. Reduction of operating times of bars and bevaco stores from Morning 10 to Afternoon 1 pm as well as from 3 PM to 7 PM in evenings..... Bars in 4 star and 5 star hotels can function upto 11 PM or 12 Midnight. Kallu shops can function upto 9 PM.

Not practical in our set up. People will find some sort of solution for that.Just like beverage closure on 1st day of a month.

7. Promotion of more mocktails and light spirited cocktails as an alternative to hard spirits.......

This will help beginners to start with and they can boost up to spirits

..

LightsR

February 25th, 2012, 11:53 AM

http://www.drinkaware.co.uk/tips-and-tools/drink-diary/

http://www.knowyourlimits.info/AboutAlcohol.aspx

http://www.bhf.org.uk/alcoholcalculator/main_page.html

Keep an eye on your units or face the health issues in your later age. Binge drinking is a problem everywhere, some countries actively help drinkers to understand what is social drinking and what is binge drinking....and some countries don't help in that way, so it's up to you to look after yourself.

1/4 bottle of Spirit is c8 units, double the recommended for men, How many of the men in India know about it? how many regularly exceed this limit? We all Know the answer.

moncy

February 25th, 2012, 12:15 PM

Tips for making Homemade Kerala Wine (http://www.swapnascuisine.com/2011/12/tips-for-making-homemade-kerala-wine.html)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7017/6503653397_7a1268775d_b.jpg

BTW, I have 2 litres of excellent wine maturing!!

It is a good idea. Why?

1. I don't drink, so I have no problem with the law.
2. I hate drunks creating problems. (I don't have any problem with കുടിച്ച വെള്ളം വയറ്റില്* തന്നെ കിടക്കുന്നവര്*)
3. This law will prevent drunks weaseling out "but I didn't do nothing onlee".

Of course, some nice guys, like Sudheesh, who drink but cause no problem, may end up in trouble. Hey!! Isn't drinking a vice? Isn't drinking bad for you? So, it is good that you are motivated not to drink!!

Thanks for the tips ... My wine is ready now. You only taught me how to prepare good homemade wine :)

sudheeshnairs

February 25th, 2012, 12:32 PM

I have been to several European Countries where Liquor is part and parcel of their social life. Yet never seen the alochol in unnessecary places like travelling etc..

Thanee, nee ethokke european countries kanditundu?

In December '11 & this month, I had been to Heidelberg, Germany & there are exclusive trams which literally make beer flow

Nobody said drinks should be there in all modes of travel, but as drinks are a part of food, you cannot help if somebody gets in to a train after having few drinks, which is a part of his lunch, dinner. In our country, the law says that you should not drive, not being driven.

DileepKS

February 25th, 2012, 12:40 PM

I have half of it left :) Half is already gone, for myself as well as friends and family. Got good reports from them.

Since you mentioned it here, and now, I got to qualify my 'don't drink' statement. I am not a teetotaler. I take less than 100ml of the homemade wine at a time. Hard liquor in proper company and environment, is limited to 30ml. Beer to one can. I do not drink when I travel. Not on a plane, not on a train, and not in a car. Drank one airline glass of wine once on a transatlantic flight, and felt terrible. Never did it again.

Used to do better, ie upto twice the above quantities, but that was decades ago.

DileepKS

February 25th, 2012, 12:44 PM

In December '11 & this month, I had been to Heidelberg, Germany & there are exclusive trams which literally make beer flow

Could you explain this a bit please? I have seen trams running criss-cross across Heidelberg, but those were regular downtown trams. Didn't get in on one, and didn't see beer flowing either. :)

sudheeshnairs

February 25th, 2012, 12:49 PM

I do not drink when I travel. Not on a plane, not on a train, and not in a car. Drank one airline glass of wine once on a transatlantic flight, and felt terrible. .

I think the reverse, when on a trans continental flight, time flies when you drink and then have the nice food. My wife says I am lucky not feeling bored, she had to eat time switching between film channels

sudheeshnairs

February 25th, 2012, 12:55 PM

Could you explain this a bit please? I have seen trams running criss-cross across Heidelberg, but those were regular downtown trams. Didn't get in on one, and didn't see beer flowing either. :)

Oh sorry then you are an unfortunate guy, I have seen exclusive trams in Heidelberg, not the regular crowded commuter ones. Didn't had much time, otherwise would have got in to one.

I dont have exclusive photos of that tram, but some 800 other pics. Not getting time, need to start a seperate tbresd

DileepKS

February 25th, 2012, 01:11 PM

sudheeshnairs

February 25th, 2012, 01:30 PM

I still don't get it. What exactly is meant by "Exclusive Trams"? Special services on which you are allowed to drink? Or is it something like a tourist service? Need to know what exactly are they.

Of course, I happen to miss a lot of things, but that is how my life is. We were on one of this "see europe in 12 days" tour, so couldn't get much of (in fact any) fun.

I think it could be exclusive tourist services. I was drinking 'Gluwhein' at Bismarkplatz when I saw those trams.

Yes, you miss a lot if things when you are on a chartered program, explore it your own way man, I was doing that. I was on a single tourist visa, exploring Frankfurt, Heidelberg & Walldorf on my own.

DileepKS

February 25th, 2012, 01:38 PM

I see no mention of any such service on the websites of Heidelberg Tourism. If it were something special/exclusive, I would expect to see a mention in the tourism sites. Do you have any info/link on that?

Anyway, what makes you claim that they are exclusive and made beer flow? Did you see a lot of people boarding/alighting those trams holding beers or something.

RKPV

February 25th, 2012, 01:46 PM

Dubai-il eee rule okke undo? Atho kealathil maatram mathiyo?

1. Liquor only available under Liquor permit system, a sort of ration card, which divides can restricts quota per month, based on age and income basis, for purchase of liqour from Bevaco

2. Double or triple taxations, which additional luxury and service taxes for liquor taken from hotel bars. Foreigners can get rebates, at time of exit from Kerala thro' tax refunds thro' online basis.....

3. Bars only be allowed in 4 star and 5 star restaurants and hotels. Beer, branded Toddy(Kallu) and Wines may be available thro' supermarkets, beer parlours and openly, with or without licences.

4. Govt policy, for not paying not even single penny for those who die/lose eyesight for drinking illicit liquor procured for unauthorized sources. If from authorized centers, yes it has to be dealt sharply.

5. Possession more liquor than permits or without permit, hefty fines and jail punishment

6. Reduction of operating times of bars and bevaco stores from Morning 10 to Afternoon 1 pm as well as from 3 PM to 7 PM in evenings..... Bars in 4 star and 5 star hotels can function upto 11 PM or 12 Midnight. Kallu shops can function upto 9 PM.

6. Social awareness and campaigns to reduce intakes....

7. Promotion of more mocktails and light spirited cocktails as an alternative to hard spirits.......

The Adventurer

February 25th, 2012, 01:47 PM

Trains in Europe serve beer in their pantry car.Its consumed as cool as we consume tropicana here....guys and girls sit around high tables sipping beer out of bottles!
But since the guys here don't really sip but actually gulp, i don't think it'll ever work out in India unless its a tourist exclusive train with Kali as a bouncer.

DileepKS

February 25th, 2012, 02:07 PM

Well, there are public intoxication laws in those countries as well. If you do anything funny, you will end up in the slammer. Our problem is, we are an out-of control lot. For every sudheesh who enjoys his drink responsibly, there are hundreds of പാലാരിവട്ടം ശശി, who think that it is a disgrace not to show that you are drunk.

For out-of-control people, you will need out-of-control laws.

sudheeshnairs

February 25th, 2012, 02:09 PM

sudheeshnairs

February 25th, 2012, 02:17 PM

Dubai-il eee rule okke undo? Atho kealathil maatram mathiyo?

Puluthi, dont look to Dufaai..even though all illegal things including open prostitution happens there, rules reg liqour is in effect there.

You can drink at bars & night clubs/dance bars which are open till 3 am, but if you want to buy and have some drink at home, you should have a permit and quota

vinod/kakka

February 25th, 2012, 02:21 PM

Well, the key issue is over-drinking, not social drinking..... Infact, over a period of time, in Kerala, the drinking habits have changed to over-drinking.... It could be traced to more complicated social pressures, teen pressures as well as availablity of liquor shops everywhere..... Infact, even if the taxation is higher, one thing must be noted, the purchasing power of Malayalees are too higher.... Hence it won't solve the key issues.

Infact, I don't understand, why should one drink in train or while travelling.... Perhaps having a peg or two is somewhat understandable. But thats the not the case..... Now a days, we see many of them, young or old take some sort of alchol while travelling in trains.... I have been to several European Countries where Liquor is part and parcel of their social life. Yet never seen the alochol in unnessecary places like travelling etc.... Yes, they have made it as a food habit... But in Kerala, its over-drinking, a cultural issue to be addressed.

Along with strict laws and policies, even cultural awarness and voluntary reduction should be made....

A railway station law merely won't help, unless the Govt brings up more stringent laws.

1. Liquor only available under Liquor permit system, a sort of ration card, which divides can restricts quota per month, based on age and income basis, for purchase of liqour from Bevaco

2. Double or triple taxations, which additional luxury and service taxes for liquor taken from hotel bars. Foreigners can get rebates, at time of exit from Kerala thro' tax refunds thro' online basis.....

3. Bars only be allowed in 4 star and 5 star restaurants and hotels. Beer, branded Toddy(Kallu) and Wines may be available thro' supermarkets, beer parlours and openly, with or without licences.

4. Govt policy, for not paying not even single penny for those who die/lose eyesight for drinking illicit liquor procured for unauthorized sources. If from authorized centers, yes it has to be dealt sharply.

5. Possession more liquor than permits or without permit, hefty fines and jail punishment

6. Reduction of operating times of bars and bevaco stores from Morning 10 to Afternoon 1 pm as well as from 3 PM to 7 PM in evenings..... Bars in 4 star and 5 star hotels can function upto 11 PM or 12 Midnight. Kallu shops can function upto 9 PM.

6. Social awareness and campaigns to reduce intakes....

7. Promotion of more mocktails and light spirited cocktails as an alternative to hard spirits.......

This is so stupid in so many levels. What next, dress codes to reduce rape? Go to Bangalore - Better liquor outlets, no draconian laws, cheaper, yet less drunkedness.

Laws preventing "public disturbances" should be effectively implemented, and RPF should have the power to do the same in trains.

For the money that BevCo makes, shops should be more like super markets, fully airconditioned. Bevco queues can bring out the animal in anybody.

The same with bars. If anything, liquor should be made cheaper so that people can drink better brews.

sudheeshnairs

February 25th, 2012, 02:45 PM

SajithVijayan

February 25th, 2012, 02:53 PM

നമ്മുടെ ബൈജുനെ മറന്നിട്ട് എന്ത് ഡിസ്കഷന്* !!!

Relax and enjoy :cheers:

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mohammedirshad06

February 25th, 2012, 03:25 PM

Thanee, nee ethokke european countries kanditundu?

In December '11 & this month, I had been to Heidelberg, Germany & there are exclusive trams which literally make beer flow

Nobody said drinks should be there in all modes of travel, but as drinks are a part of food, you cannot help if somebody gets in to a train after having few drinks, which is a part of his lunch, dinner. In our country, the law says that you should not drive, not being driven.

Well, been working in Greece for nearly 8 months as well as been regularly to UK, France and Portugal for company related tours in between 2005-2007.... Hope you might have read my statement clearly. In France, people take liqour almost 3-4 times a day.... I was bit shocked seeing how people can take hard spirits after lunch regularly... But as someone said, its their food habit... Just like we take some sweets or payasam...

But they never over-do. Its just an appetizer.... That difference is there and here. Here, we take liqour as a separate activity and overdo.... There lies the key difference. And the issue originates when people overdo....

Beer is not strictly a hard spirit.... Even in Gulf countries, beer is placed along with Pepsi, Coke in cold station area of Supermarkets.... And if it was beer, a major consumption item in Kerala, I think, half of the issue is gone....Rather people take hard spirits.....

Infact, thats why I believe, the right alternative is to make certified Toddy and Beer more easily available at stores and supermarkets, for public to buy and consume as an alternative to hard spirits..... When Hard spirits are more difficult to access, the public switches to light ones like these. It will be a right move to slowly reduce the consumption.....

I hope you understood what I meant

mohammedirshad06

February 25th, 2012, 03:38 PM

Puluthi, dont look to Dufaai..even though all illegal things including open prostitution happens there, rules reg liqour is in effect there.

You can drink at bars & night clubs/dance bars which are open till 3 am, but if you want to buy and have some drink at home, you should have a permit and quota

Well, UAE has more leaner laws.... Well Baharin has the best and easy laws for liquor consumption. Yet we never see any public taking it overboard and making public nuisance. Fear of law is the key issue.

Hope you guys know, Shakeela was playing as a Bar Dancer in Hotel Mayfair inbetween 2006-2007 time...... Those things happen without any legal restriction. But the issue is people who earn AED 1000 or AED 2000 can't afford to go to such high end bars and become snakes.... Even to secure Liquor licence, one need atleast AED 2500 as salary. And there is a limit as per salary range. And how many of them can afford to spend 100 Dhs per Peg or above in star hotels..... So either depend illict ones risking legal prosecution or avoid it....

The key role here is, it keeps an regulation people on lower income to avoid spending higher and reduce their saving......

In Kerala, the key issue is poor and lower income guys, students spends over their limits, to buy liquor and adversly affect their lives and nuisance to others.... It has to be limited..... There is a difference a Man spending Rs 5000 or above for Liquor in a month when earning 50,000 Rs and a man spending Rs 100 after earning Rs 200 or 300....

Thats why a restriction must be in place. Since they depend Bevaco, automatically a restriction will directly impact them......

The key issue, is that, people who take illict liqour mostly, knows they take it from unauthorized sources.... If there is a fear in them that Govt will not take any responsiblity after consuming so, automatically there will be decline.

The illicit liquor trade in Gujarat and Kerala is key example. In Gujarat, its a govt policy, they will never take any responsibility for consumption of illicit liquor. Rather if the man who consumed it, if alive and caught will be prosecuted for the same... That fear reduces the consumption and sale rate.... Whereas no such fear is there in Kerala.... If Kerala govt starts punishes even those who consume illicit liquour at lllicit sources, we can see the difference......

Well, I strongly believe, Govt has to press in action, for reducing Bevco shops, increasing taxes etc.... Let Illicit liquour flows in and more tragedies will help in one way to keep public fear of natural consequences of consumption of unauthorized liquour...... This will automatically reduce the same.....

mohammedirshad06

February 25th, 2012, 03:45 PM

This is so stupid in so many levels. What next, dress codes to reduce rape? Go to Bangalore - Better liquor outlets, no draconian laws, cheaper, yet less drunkedness.

Laws preventing "public disturbances" should be effectively implemented, and RPF should have the power to do the same in trains.

For the money that BevCo makes, shops should be more like super markets, fully airconditioned. Bevco queues can bring out the animal in anybody.

The same with bars. If anything, liquor should be made cheaper so that people can drink better brews.

I believe, only a combination of laws and circumstances will reduce consumption. Bangalore cannot be taken as example..... There you have high end bars, targetting the rich, techies etc.... Small wine shops for low income group etc....

In Kerala, bars, bevco and all target almost similar crowd... Perhaps people go for Bevco for better rates and govt authorized liqour... I know even many well to do people go for Bevco....

The key issue here, on one side GOVT is promoting liqour consumption, by opening more and more bevco stores.... And more bars also increasing temptations to drink..... Drinking pattern in Kerala and Bangalore are different.... Take any bar, we have almost always full crowd almost all times.... This is not case of Blore......

The key role of Govt should be stopping liqour consumption by closing down channels of authorized hard spirits reaching public more widely.... Let a combination of legal and potential tragedies due to lllicit liquour consumption brings up a psychological fear to reduce consumption patterns.

Added to this, some hurdles in securing permits and some other alternatives like beer, kallu, toddy etc, will slowly and slowly reduce the consumption. If we increase the shops, its going to be more and more consumption, than reduction.

After all, Blore is not Kerala... We must consider our drinking habit and pattern.......

sudheeshnairs

February 25th, 2012, 03:52 PM

Dey shaniyazcha kooduthal vidathe, let me see later as I cannot read essays during saturdays and it is party time as well as my mobile charge is getting over

RajeshVR

February 25th, 2012, 04:00 PM

But the issue is people who earn AED 1000 or AED 2000 can't afford to go to such high end bars and become snakes.... Even to secure Liquor licence, one need atleast AED 2500 as salary. And there is a limit as per salary range. And how many of them can afford to spend 100 Dhs per Peg or above in star hotels..... So either depend illict ones risking legal prosecution or avoid it....

The key role here is, it keeps an regulation people on lower income to avoid spending higher and reduce their saving......

^^
In Oman/Muscat people buy a tiolet cleaning liquid made of spirit as a substitute. They call it as പന്ത് :)

PPJ

February 25th, 2012, 04:01 PM

Dey shaniyazcha kooduthal vidathe, let me see later as I cannot read essays during saturdays and it is party time as well as my mobile charge is getting over

+1
Enjoy the weekend!

abhilashtvpm

February 25th, 2012, 04:06 PM

Dey shaniyazcha kooduthal vidathe, let me see later as I cannot read essays during saturdays and it is party time as well as my mobile charge is getting over

:rofl:

RKPV

February 25th, 2012, 07:44 PM

Anyway the law resembles Taliban rule. Is the law came to force right now?

Nammade kodiyeri balettan ithu sammathicho?

RKPV

February 25th, 2012, 07:57 PM

The esseyist dont even know the alcaholicity of beer and toddy. Those have to put for sale in supermarket along with pepsi???!!! : welcome, good idea! !!
Dey shaniyazcha kooduthal vidathe, let me see later as I cannot read essays during saturdays and it is party time as well as my mobile charge is getting over

vinod/kakka

February 25th, 2012, 08:36 PM

I believe, only a combination of laws and circumstances will reduce consumption. Bangalore cannot be taken as example..... There you have high end bars, targetting the rich, techies etc.... Small wine shops for low income group etc....

In Kerala, bars, bevco and all target almost similar crowd... Perhaps people go for Bevco for better rates and govt authorized liqour... I know even many well to do people go for Bevco....

The key issue here, on one side GOVT is promoting liqour consumption, by opening more and more bevco stores.... And more bars also increasing temptations to drink..... Drinking pattern in Kerala and Bangalore are different.... Take any bar, we have almost always full crowd almost all times.... This is not case of Blore......

The key role of Govt should be stopping liqour consumption by closing down channels of authorized hard spirits reaching public more widely.... Let a combination of legal and potential tragedies due to lllicit liquour consumption brings up a psychological fear to reduce consumption patterns.

Added to this, some hurdles in securing permits and some other alternatives like beer, kallu, toddy etc, will slowly and slowly reduce the consumption. If we increase the shops, its going to be more and more consumption, than reduction.

After all, Blore is not Kerala... We must consider our drinking habit and pattern.......

I know whats there in Bangalore - all super markets have a liquor section. In Kerala, the stupidity of the government is sometimes amazing. Maybe St. Antony did not make any money out of it, but most probably banning arrack in Kerala made quite a few liqour barons money.
Kerala for its liquor policy has to study from Srilanka - preminum 12 year old arrack for sale at CMB duty free. Making Arrack distilled from Toddy the only Arrack sold in Kerala, and selling it in BevCo outlets would make Thengu krishi much more attractive.
With regards to law, the government cannot dictate morality - A governments involvement in domestic violence should not be because its immoral, but it hurts the person involved. Similar should be the laws on drunkardness - I should be allowed to drink myself to death, but without causing disturbances to others.
As for limiting bar licenses to 4* etc, have you ever thought how much current 4* hotel owners would "influence" leaders to get such a rule passed?

As for drunkardness, I have seen Malayalam movies move from the time of only the villian drinking to the time of the hero is never sober. Neither should be our popular culture. Drunkedness has markedly gone up since the Govt took sole right to sell retail liquor - Atleast some of us here are old enough to remember a time before that, when there werent any queues, and there were many more retail outlets like Bangalore.
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Bars with better lighting and ambience. would be the answer. I like having a wine when eating out. But I wouldnt take my 3 year old to most places in Kerala where alcohol is served.
If Indian Coffee house served Beer, would it be overrun with drunks? ie, all restaurents of that level?

Sali_varakkal

February 26th, 2012, 06:11 AM

As for drunkardness, I have seen Malayalam movies move from the time of only the villian drinking to the time of the hero is never sober. Neither should be our popular culture.
^^Agree
Drunkedness has markedly gone up since the Govt took sole right to sell retail liquor - Atleast some of us here are old enough to remember a time before that, when there werent any queues, and there were many more retail outlets like Bangalore.
^^ Government not to b blamed popular culture only man
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If Indian Coffee house served Beer, would it be overrun with drunks? ie, all restaurents of that level?

^^ The case of the KTDC beer parlour in Ramanattukara, a suburb near Calicut City, where beer parlour put the hotel's future on the block.

mohammedirshad06

February 26th, 2012, 06:20 AM

I know whats there in Bangalore - all super markets have a liquor section. In Kerala, the stupidity of the government is sometimes amazing. Maybe St. Antony did not make any money out of it, but most probably banning arrack in Kerala made quite a few liqour barons money.
Kerala for its liquor policy has to study from Srilanka - preminum 12 year old arrack for sale at CMB duty free. Making Arrack distilled from Toddy the only Arrack sold in Kerala, and selling it in BevCo outlets would make Thengu krishi much more attractive.

In Sri Lanka, you have Toddy canned by Govt agencies and sold in supermarkets.... Perhaps can be considered in Kerala too.... Compared to hard spirits, Beer and Toddy are better alternatives and will help reducing the nuisance created by drunkards after consuming heavy drinks over the limit...

Anyways, over-drinking even Beer/Toddy over also creates the same effect.

So primarily we have to address the issue of over-drinking, NOT Drinking in general..... But it too requires a systematic method...

With regards to law, the government cannot dictate morality - A governments involvement in domestic violence should not be because its immoral, but it hurts the person involved. Similar should be the laws on drunkardness - I should be allowed to drink myself to death, but without causing disturbances to others.

Well, I too join with govt not interfering in morality. But it should not be restricted in Liqour business alone. If so, the same concept, needs to be extended, whether its gambling, prostitution or anything which Malayalees see immoral at mornings and moral at night......

But thats not happening anyways... As long as the govt maintains the concept of morality in its policy decisions, even that concept need to be extended in liquor trade too, not just on gambling, prostitution etc....

I also agree, just laws will not help... If so, the anti-suicide laws would be enough to prevent suicides, being worst in Kerala.

One must also understand, its a combination of several factors, law, morality, spirituality, social awareness, culture and entertainment being all considered into a circle of social life...... Here you have enough liqour, enough money, more stress, more pressures all leading to deteronination of social values, adding further pressures and eventually even leading to suicides.

I am not saying, just drinking contributes to these... But Kerala have to address the issue of OVER-DRINKING, not regular drinking.....

As for limiting bar licenses to 4* etc, have you ever thought how much current 4* hotel owners would "influence" leaders to get such a rule passed?

4 star hotels, anyway can't sell liqour at seedy local bar rates... The luxury tax, service tax and other direct and indirect taxes will shoot up the price of hard spirits, which not everyone can afford...

Either that will force public to opt light spirits like beer/toddy/wines etc as alternative or even illicit hard liquour at own risk. But a hard govt policy and regular occurence of illicit liquour tragdies over a period of time, will create fear in consumption of same from unauthorized sources...

Drunkedness has markedly gone up since the Govt took sole right to sell retail liquor - Atleast some of us here are old enough to remember a time before that, when there werent any queues, and there were many more retail outlets like Bangalore.

I don't consider govt activity alone has contributed more drunkedness. If so, TN would have to report same, as it has an identical similar Govt policy as of Kerala.

In Kerala, even social factors contributed increased drunkedness, which is comparatively less than in TN.... And the issue of over-drinking is more in Kerala than TN..... I am not saying Tamil folks are not drinkers and saints... But surely on any rate of comparison, Keralites consume more alchol than them, despite of having an identical govt policy. This proves a point, there are much more factors to be addressed at grass-root level too.

Bars with better lighting and ambience. would be the answer. I like having a wine when eating out. But I wouldnt take my 3 year old to most places in Kerala where alcohol is served. If Indian Coffee house served Beer, would it be overrun with drunks? ie, all restaurents of that level?

Well, I am in basic opinion that beers and wines must be made available in restaurants and supermarkets, to as systematic method to reduce over-dependency on hard spirits..... Equally, the taxes and rates of hard spirits must shoot up in authorized market..... And those who depend on illicit liquor will have to be under psychological fear of tragedies occuring or not... In a way, it will reduce the habit of OVERDRINKING......

Well, I don't think, issuance of Liquor permit is something too tough.... Kerala is gearing up issuance of Labour cards, unheard anywhere in India (another Gulf Rule), in a highly unorganized migrant workforce sector..... If so, I believe it can be more successful in more organized Bevaco Markets.

DileepKS

February 26th, 2012, 10:34 AM

Leave the net, I too didn't see much other than the overpriced (as per INR terms) guided tours in Heidelberg when I sesrchef the net before going there.

Yes, these trams are of different colour, something of vintage feel, with more of chair/table seating and big filled beer glasses.

I may go again or even migrate to Walldorf/Heidelberg as my wife may get a transfer to the SAP global HQ in Walldorf. Will get you pictures also if so. Only the love for my home, parents and my prized possession of my new, beautiful & big villa in Trivandrum is holding me back despite the attraction of earning in euros.

That actually made me wonder. You went as a free tourist, then why Heidelberg of all places in Deutchland? Did you go on a recon mission for future migration? Of course, Germany has better visa rules than USA, where an H4 holder can't work.

Heidelberg is part of the bus tour trail operated by the desi companies, simply because it is en-route and convenient. I wonder why some freebird tourist go there!

mohammedirshad06

February 26th, 2012, 10:50 AM

Power Crisis looms over Kerala.....

Heard that its going to worst summer this season, with undeclared powercuts in Morning slots in domestic sector. The water in Idukki and other dams are just enough to meet requirements for next 80 days.......

mohammedirshad06

February 26th, 2012, 11:08 AM

The Nurses agitations are getting like a wild fire.....

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The fast-spreading strike by nurses in Kerala has laid bare the inherent contradiction in India’s burgeoning healthcare sector: it is a highly exploitative industry dominated by money-minded corporates and doctors.

While the doctors and surgeons earn by the hour, sometimes running into millions of rupees a month, the nurses who form the backbone of patient care are thrown the crumbs. At best, on an average, Rs 4000-8000 a month.

While managements are trying every trick in the book to rein in the striking nurses, including court injunctions and new recruitments, the doctors asked for invoking ESSMA, the essential services maintenance act, the bogey that oppressive governments use against labour unrest. The state unit of the Indian Medical Association (IMA) and the Qualified Private Medical Practitioners Association (QPMPA), an association of private medical practitioners and hospital managements were united in this demand.

The QPMA even went a step ahead and asked the political parties and the government not to encourage the strike.

Does it matter that for every doctor, you need many nurses and without them, hospitals will crumble? The contrarian stand of the doctors clearly demonstrates the power and class inequality in the healthcare sector.

The nurses are now clear that even the doctors they serve 24/7, much less the management, will not support them. Their agitation is spreading to every part of the state threatening to cripple its private healthcare sector. It’s a “white-revolution” that is as spontaneous as the Arab Spring.

The demands of the nurses are very simple. They want decent salaries and better working conditions. Reuters
The demands of the nurses are very simple. They want decent salaries and better working conditions. Nothing more. In 2009, the state government has fixed a minimum salary of Rs 9,000. A majority of the hospitals do not pay this, although the nurses say that even this salary is inadequate and should be revised.

According to United Nurses Association, the newly formed organisation that galvanised the feeble voices of protest into a snowballing movement, only five per cent of the hospitals in the state pay the minimum wages. In a Kochi hospital where the nurses are on strike, a nurse with 16 years of experience is given only Rs 7,000. Most of the nurses are paid Rs. 4,000-6,000.

The worst off are the “trainees” or the straight-out-of-college nurses. They are usually paid Rs 1,000 or so and work under bonded conditions. This is widely prevalent in hospitals outside the state, where the managements even confiscate their certificates. The state of their bonded condition was brought to light, when a nurse committed suicide in Mumbai last year. The trainees suffer in silence in the hope of a few years experience so that they can shift to a bigger hospital or go abroad.

The flicker of protests first appeared at the end of last year with Keralite nurses going on strike in Mumbai, Delhi and Calcutta. Early this year, about 800 nurses from a “multi-speciality” hospital in Kochi and another 600 in a private medical college hospital in a southern district went on strike, followed by several other hospitals.

The organisational capacity of the nurses has strengthened considerably since they agitated in Mumbai and Delhi. They were so busy with enslaving work that they didn’t even know how to organise a protest without inviting criticism. The main charge against them has been that they didn’t give sufficient notice to managements and the patients suffered.

The labour minister of Kerala, Shibu Baby John, while supporting nurses advised them to follow fair labour practices, such as sufficient advance notice, so that they are on good legal footing. Now they serve notice and go on strike. The Association says that more hospitals have been served notice, including the one where they had reached an agreement last year. Apparently this hospital reneged on their commitment.

The doctor-management nexus that the strike has brought to light was not unexpected given their mutually beneficial stakes. “IMA seeking ESMA against striking nurses is only a ploy to protect hospitals, some of which are owned by its members.” according to Jasmin Shah, State President of the United Nurses Association. The doctors also came in for severe criticism from civil society because they went on strike several times in the recent past. “If the IMA can call for state-wide strike when doctors face a problem, why can’t we agitate for minimum wages,” is Shah’s counter.

Meanwhile, support is pouring in from all quarters. The CPM, the CPI, the women’s wing of the Congress and INTUC have openly supported the cause of the nurses. The labour minister remained categorical that he wouldn’t allow anybody to pay the nurses below the minimum wages and violate labour rules. The State Women’s Commission member T Devi said that the commission will intervene if the nurses asked for help.

Even the courts are on their side. While responding to a plea on the issue, the Kerala High Court said last week that nurses were being exploited. They were forced to work for low salaries and that is why they were on strike, the court said. Some private hospitals haven’t revised the salaries even in the past ten years.

It’s worthwhile to note that when the nurses from Kerala went on strike in Mumbai and Delhi last year, the politicians in Kerala hardly paid any attention since they were busy with a politically expedient Mullaperiyar.

However, the nurses didn’t wait for any patronage. Their working conditions were so exploitative, that they abandoned their fear of job-(in)security and anxieties about hefty loan-paybacks. The sincerity of purpose paid off. Now that their movement is gaining momentum, all political parties want a share of the success.

The doctor-management voice against them continue to demonstrate the class struggle in the healthcare sector.

sudheeshnairs

February 26th, 2012, 02:27 PM

That actually made me wonder. You went as a free tourist, then why Heidelberg of all places in Deutchland? Did you go on a recon mission for future migration? Of course, Germany has better visa rules than USA, where an H4 holder can't work.

Heidelberg is part of the bus tour trail operated by the desi companies, simply because it is en-route and convenient. I wonder why some freebird tourist go there!

Heidelberg is famous for its history, and its castle. It is a major tourist centre which is close to Germany's aviation hub, Frankfurt, which was my port of entry.

Ya, it can be said as a reccee, I was moving around Walldorf, Heidelberg & Frankfurt for one week on my own. I was exploring Walldorf & Heidelberg mostly on foot, interacting with people, getting in to bars/ restaurants, striking friendships etc. It was totally different from an Indian guided tour where people would be herded like cattle, with most times an Indian kitchen also accompanying.

I liked the place very much, the wheiss (wheat ) beer, food-beef, pork & turkey, the infrastructure, people etc. And unlike other places, there is no migration of asians esp from India's neighbours, which I liked.

DileepKS

February 27th, 2012, 02:28 AM

^^Good for you man! Good luck!!

The bus tour has its virtues. It is cheap, it is practically risk-free, and it is convenient for lugging around the lady and the kids. Personally, I hate having to eat from the kitchen caravan, but that saves a lot of time. On top of all, it gives you bragging rights "Oh, I had been to Jarmanny onlee!!, and svitjarlaand, itaalee, phraanj, eenglaand, beljeeyum and astreeya too!!"

The tour operator told that, consider this as a recce tour. You can come back to the places you like later. In fact that made a lot of sense to me. There are a few places that I do want to go back, but Germany isn't one of them. Neither is Paris.

psanthosh

February 27th, 2012, 04:20 AM

Robotics not receiving the attention it should in India: scientist

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A staunch advocate of the application of robot systems for improving living standards, Dr. Vadakkepat elaborates on the scope of robotics. “There are many jobs (dirty, dangerous or dull), which humans would rather leave to robots and have a dignified exit. There are many fronts where robotics and automation can play role in our daily lives. There are several consumer robots, for entertainment or to perform certain domestic tasks like floor cleaning. Daily floor cleaning is a boring affair and it is becoming increasingly difficult to get man power. It is in this context that floor cleaning robots like are a boon for households. Likewise, human beings deserve better living conditions on various areas including roadways, waterways, parks, common facilities and public places, where robotics and automation can be utilised. Being an agrarian society, our nation has opportunities in automating agricultural-related activities. Coconut and betel nut plucking are difficult tasks and where man power is lacking. Similar situations exist in various agricultural fields for better yields and crop collection. Moreover, in addition to medical and biological sectors, the personal and service robotics segment will receive increasing attention in the coming decades,” he said.

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http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/kerala/article2935414.ece

LightsR

February 27th, 2012, 08:46 AM

I may go again or even migrate to Walldorf/Heidelberg as my wife may get a transfer to the SAP global HQ in Walldorf. ... Only the love for my home, parents and my prized possession of my new, beautiful & big villa in Trivandrum is holding me back despite the attraction of earning in euros.

.... I had been to Heidelberg, Germany & there are exclusive trams which literally make beer flow

...Ya, it can be said as a reccee, I was moving around Walldorf, Heidelberg & Frankfurt for one week on my own. I was exploring Walldorf & Heidelberg mostly on foot, interacting with people, getting in to bars/ restaurants, striking friendships etc..

If i'm in your situation, key questions I would be asking myself are,...( all said with good intentions, and some are through experience)

What will you do there, when your good lady is at work?, obviously it is difficult to spend all your time in the beer flowing tram ;-), though i'm sure you wouldn't mind doing that.

Your job - do you know the language ? or can learn to read/write/speak fluently quick enough..say in 1 yr? as obliviously local jobs (e.g a property agent) will require 'more' knowledge in language, culture, etiquettes etc.. than a typical IT job.

Schooling - how good are they?, taught in English? Difficult to move kids around when they are grown up (> 6yrs), and they grow up quickly!, especially, it gets very difficult moving kids from a non English school to English school.

Friends - yes we all make few, but in non English speaking western countries, it is bit tricky to build networks quickly.

Key there is, you are contemplating a migration to a non English speaking western country....it's very different to, being a happy tourist with loads of dosh in the pocket & a camcorder.

I liked the place very much, the wheiss (wheat ) beer, food-beef, pork & turkey, the infrastructure, people etc. And unlike other places, there is no migration of asians esp from India's neighbours, which I liked.

Locals don't see in that way - Will be seen as an Asian, it takes time for you to explain things like India, southern India, Goa etc..even to your own friends you make there. Nothing wrong in that, as not everyone is good at geography of Asia.

Good luck, and wish you all the best.

Aslesh

February 27th, 2012, 10:51 AM

Manushyanmarude oru Karyam.
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TVM2020

February 27th, 2012, 12:48 PM

How many people will turn down Rs. 40 lakh and a luxury Sports Utility Vehicle worth many more lakhs, when it's all there for the taking by simply turning a deaf ear to the voice of one's conscience?

Not many. But then, Peter did. Selling lottery tickets to fortune seekers, Peter chose to shun it when the very fortune smiled on him. Despite leading a hand-to-mouth existence, he had the courage of mind to uphold honesty and handover that fortune to its rightful owner.

Murukan, who makes a living by ironing clothes, had left the lottery with Peter since he did not have money to pay for it then. And when that ticket won the prize, Peter didn't have to think twice before informing Murukan and handing over the ticket to him.

And that integrity won him a special guest on Saturday in the form of Minister of Finance K.M. Mani, who also holds the charge of lottery. Tears rolled down his cheeks when the veteran of many a political battle turned up to meet him and held him in his embrace. A visibly moved Peter definitely did not hear the words of praise the Minister had for him. Before this encounter, he had seen the minister only on television.

Peter lives with his wife and two children at Parambithara Road. He had stopped selling lottery before returning to it recently when the government re-started lottery trade afresh. Without a shop of his own, Peter sells lottery tickets in front of a bank at Woodlands Junction at M.G. Road.

Murukan, a resident of Kovilpetty at Chidambaram in Tamil Nadu, is among the many who buy ticket from Peter on credit. Peter is not selectively honest, as is evident from his act of having returned a ticket which has won Rs. 5,000 to one of his credit clients in the past.

When a ticket sold by Peter won Rs. 40 lakh and Toyota Innova on Friday's draw, he contacted all those who have bought ticket from him. But, he could not locate the winner. That was when he remembered about the ticket Murukan has left with him.

On confirming the winner, he rushed to the firm where Murukan is working. He broke the news to a stunned looking Murukan and handed him over the ticket. More than the prize he won, what surprised Murukan was Peter's sincerity. He could have easily taken that prize, Murukan said with a lump in the throat.

Peter, however, is content with his present life and only wishes that the God will continue to give him that life.

Mr. Mani said that the government will think of how to recognize such honest traders. The likes of Peter definitely deserve that in an age when it's hard to avoid the glitter of money.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Kochi/article2934926.ece

sudheeshnairs

February 27th, 2012, 12:55 PM

Thanks for your insights, yes, I have asked these myself also. Anyway it is only 20: 80 chance, and these days I am getting more homesick and thinking of going back to Trivandrum. Anyway TVM is just an hour flight costing Rs.3000-5000/-, that is keeping me in Bangalore, but Frankfurt would be a day, including transit, costing about Rs.50,000/-

If i'm in your situation, key questions I would be asking myself are,...( all said with good intentions, and some are through experience)

What will you do there, when your good lady is at work?, obviously it is difficult to spend all your time in the beer flowing tram ;-), though i'm sure you wouldn't mind doing that. .

Ya, I don’t mind doing that, as far as she is paid well and the rupee conversion makes the total earnings really good.:cheers:But yes, my core competency and the knowledge/expertise I have earned through last decade would be of no use.

Your job - do you know the language ? or can learn to read/write/speak fluently quick enough..say in 1 yr? as obliviously local jobs (e.g a property agent) will require 'more' knowledge in language, culture, etiquettes etc.. than a typical IT job. .

Yes, language is the main hindrance. But even if I scout for openings, my focus would be on International consultants like BNP Paribas, Knight Frank etc. And I would be looking at more corporate transactions as I do here, where English is more or less used. BTW infact I am told by one of my friend/associates here in Bangalore who is a Director at BNP Paribas that knowing English can be made in to an advantage as it is very difficult to get Germans who know English. And Bangalore is a big market of real estate transactions for them, with the parent companies based in Germany. SAP, Bosch, Schneider are examples.

BTW I think learning German would be easier than learning Kannada. We can read it since the script is same as English, I was moving around there reading German signages, bus timetables etc . May be perhaps it will take one year to learn to speak and write well enough. There is an example of one my colleague’s sister-in-law who is now settled in Frankfurt who learned enough mastery of German in one year.

Schooling - how good are they?, taught in English? Difficult to move kids around when they are grown up (> 6yrs), and they grow up quickly!, especially, it gets very difficult moving kids from a non English school to English school. .

True, but there seems to be some English schools, esp around Frankfurt. The same person I mentioned earlier has got her kids there.

Key there is, you are contemplating a migration to a non English speaking western country....it's very different to, being a happy tourist with loads of dosh in the pocket & a camcorder. .

Very much true. BTW there are other options also, in US and Canada. Montreal is one such city. Anyway my wife says we should experience work/life outside India also. We have worked in our state, then another State in India and now outside India, and can comeback when we are in our mid 40s.

Locals don't see in that way - Will be seen as an Asian, it takes time for you to explain things like India, southern India, Goa etc..even to your own friends you make there. Nothing wrong in that, as not everyone is good at geography of Asia..

In places like Walldorf, I got a feeling that for the people there India is Bangalore!. Most of the questions I faced when I said Hi to a bartender is ‘SAP’?? Bangalore??

Good luck, and wish you all the best.

Anyway as I said, still my mind is where my heart is, my home in Trivandrum. I have been getting some offers in between, including that of top management/CEO positions back home, of course in set ups much smaller than what I am in now; and can wait for some more time.

RajeshVR

February 27th, 2012, 02:25 PM

Very much true. BTW there are other options also, in US and Canada. Montreal is one such city. Anyway my wife says we should experience work/life outside India also. We have worked in our state, then another State in India and now outside India, and can comeback when we are in our mid 40s.

Good luck.
When the kids starts their school, very difficult to go back even though our hearts throb for home town .

RKPV

February 27th, 2012, 07:00 PM

Super !!!
One of the best from Indran- Mathrubhumi

http://www.mathrubhumi.com/online/malayalam/news/story/1472196/2012-02-26/articles,columns

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ഇറ്റലിക്കാരെക്കൊണ്ട് ഇത്രയും വലിയ ഉപദ്രവം ഉണ്ടാകുമെന്ന് ആരും ധരിച്ചിരുന്നില്ല. രണ്ട് നാവികര്* കൊലക്കേസില്* കുടുങ്ങി എന്ന നിസ്സാര സംഭവമേ നടന്നിട്ടുള്ളൂ. നിയമം നിയമത്തിന്റെ വഴിക്ക് പോകും എന്നൊരു പ്രസ്താവനയിറിക്കി മിണ്ടാതിരുന്നാല്* പോരേ അവരുടെ മന്ത്രിമാര്*ക്ക്. നമ്മുടെ എത്ര പൗരന്മാര്* ഏതെല്ലാം രാജ്യങ്ങളില്* എന്തെല്ലാം കേസില്* പ്രതികളായി ജയിലില്* കിടക്കുന്നു. എത്ര നിരപരാധികള്* ജയിലിലാകുന്നു. ആരെല്ലാം കൊല്ലപ്പെടുന്നു. നമ്മളുണ്ടോ ഇങ്ങനെ താടിക്ക് തീപിടിച്ചതുപോലെ വിരണ്ടോടുന്നു. രണ്ടുകൊലക്കേസ് പ്രതികള്*ക്കു വേണ്ടി വാദിക്കാന്* ഇറ്റലിയില്* നിന്ന് ആരെല്ലാമാണ് വന്നത്. വിദേശകാര്യമന്ത്രി പോലും വരുന്നു. ഇനി പ്രധാനമന്ത്രി വന്നാലും അത്ഭുതപ്പെടേണ്ട. ആര്*ക്കറിയാം, അവിടെയും പിറവം പോലെ വല്ല ഉപതിരഞ്ഞെടുപ്പുമുണ്ടോ എന്തോ.... ഞങ്ങളല്ല വെടിവെച്ചത്, വെച്ചിട്ടുണ്ടെങ്കില്*ത്തന്നെ തോക്കുകൊണ്ടല്ല വെടിവെച്ചത്, തോക്കുകൊണ്ടാണെങ്കില്* ത്തന്നെ വെടികൊണ്ടത് ഇന്ത്യക്കാര്*ക്കല്ല, കൊള്ളക്കാര്*ക്കാണ്, ഇനി വെടികൊണ്ടത് ഇന്ത്യക്കാര്*ക്കാണെങ്കില്*ത്തന്നെ ഇന്ത്യന്* അതിര്*ത്തിയിലല്ല, അന്താരാഷ്ട്ര കടലിലാണ് സംഭവം നടന്നത്, വെടിവെച്ചത് തോക്കുകൊണ്ടാണെങ്കില്*ത്തന്നെ അത് അദൃശ്യതോക്കാണ്...എന്തെല്ലാം വാദങ്ങളാണ് ഉയരുന്നത്! നാം നമ്മുടേതെന്നും അവര്* അവരുടേതെന്നും കരുതുന്ന കടലിലാണ് സംഭവം നടന്നതെന്ന് പ്രസ്താവനയിറിക്കി മിണ്ടാതിരുന്നാല്* പോരേ അവര്*ക്ക് ?
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തീവണ്ടിയില്* നടക്കുന്ന സകലമാന ഉപദ്രവങ്ങളും പരിഹരിക്കുന്നതിനുള്ള ഒറ്റമൂലി റെയില്*വേ പോലീസ് കണ്ടെത്തിയിരിക്കുന്നു. ട്രെയിനില്* ഇനി സമ്പൂര്*ണ മദ്യനിരോധനമാണ്. മോഷണം, കൊള്ള, സ്ത്രീപീഡനം, കള്ളവണ്ടി കയറ്റം തുടങ്ങിയ എല്ലാ കുറ്റകൃത്യങ്ങളും ഇതോടെ അവസാനിക്കും. ട്രെയിനുകള്* വൈകിയോടുന്നതും പാളം തെറ്റുന്നതും കൂടി അവസാനിക്കുമോ എന്നറിയില്ല.
ഹനുമാന്* പണ്ട് പറന്നുചെന്ന് പിഴുതെടുത്തുകൊണ്ടുവന്ന ഋഷഭാദ്രി മലയുടെ കഷണം സതേണ്* റെയില്*വേ ഹെഡ്ക്വാര്*ട്ടേഴ്*സിലാണ് വീണത്. അതിന്റെ അവശിഷ്ടങ്ങള്*ക്കിടയില്*നിന്നാണ് ഒറ്റമൂലി കണ്ടെടുത്തത്. വിവരം ബ്രെയ്ക്കിങ് ന്യൂസ് കഴിഞ്ഞ ദിവസമേ പുറത്തുവന്നുള്ളൂ എന്നുമാത്രം. മദ്യത്തിന്റെ മണമെങ്കിലും ശ്വാസത്തിലുണ്ടെങ്കില്* ആള്* ജയിലിലാവും. ആറുമാസം പിന്നെ മദ്യപാനമില്ലെന്ന് മാത്രമല്ല, അമ്മയെ കൊന്നവന്റെയും മോളെ ബലാത്സംഗം ചെയ്തവന്റെയുമൊപ്പം കിടക്കുകയും വേണംസര്*ക്കാര്* വില്*ക്കുന്ന മദ്യം, മണിക്കൂറുകള്* ക്യു നിന്ന്, കേട്ടാല്* ഞെട്ടുന്ന വില കൊടുത്തുവാങ്ങുന്നവര്* ഇതിനേക്കാള്* വലിയ ശിക്ഷ അര്*ഹിക്കുന്നുണ്ടെന്നത് സത്യം.

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റെയില്*വേയെ ഹാര്*ദമായി അഭിനന്ദിക്കുക. അതിനിടെ ആരോ പറയുന്നതുകേട്ടു. രാജസ്ഥാനിലോ മറ്റോ ഏതോ ട്രെയിനില്* വിനോദസഞ്ചാരികള്*ക്ക് റെയില്*വേ തന്നെ മദ്യം വില്*ക്കുന്നുണ്ടത്രെ. സത്യമാവില്ല, ദുഷ്ടന്മാരുടെ അപവാദപ്രചാരണമായിരിക്കണം. ഇനി ഒരു ചെറുകാര്യം കൂടി. റെയില്*വേയിലെ സമ്പൂര്*ണ മദ്യനിരോധനത്തിന് ആധാരമായ നിയമം റെയില്*വേ ആക്ടില്* പണ്ടേ ഉള്ളതാണ്. അതനുസരിച്ച് മദ്യപിച്ചു എന്ന കുറ്റത്തിന് ആരെയും പിടികൂടാന്* പറ്റില്ല, ശിക്ഷിക്കാനും പറ്റില്ല. ലക്കുകെട്ടവരെയാണ്, മദ്യപിച്ച് ശല്യം ചെയ്യുന്നവരെയാണ് നിയമം ലക്ഷ്യം വെക്കുന്നത്. ഈ വകുപ്പ് റോഡില്* നടക്കുന്നവര്*ക്കും ബാധകം തന്നെ. റെയില്*വേ പോലീസിന് വേറെ ദുരുദ്ദേശ്യമൊന്നുമില്ല. പത്രക്കാര്* വാര്*ത്ത വളച്ചൊടിക്കുംപോലെ ആവശ്യത്തിനൊത്ത് പോലീസിന് നിയമം വളച്ചൊടിക്കാം. എങ്കിലേ ദിവസവും അവര്*ക്ക് ഇര കിട്ടൂ.

LightsR

February 27th, 2012, 07:38 PM

Anyway my wife says we should experience work/life outside India also. We have worked in our state, then another State in India and now outside India, and can comeback when we are in our mid 40s.

100% correct, when one get a chance, should experience travelling, working, living in another culture/country... But not sure about 'returning in mid 40' though :), there I would agree with RajeshVR.

DileepKS

February 28th, 2012, 01:54 AM

If i'm in your situation, key questions I would be asking myself are,...( all said with good intentions, and some are through experience)

<snip>
ഓ അതു വല്ല്യ കാര്യമൊന്നുമല്ലന്നേ, എത്രയോ അച്ചായന്മാര് നഴ്സ് അച്ചായത്തികളുടെ കൂടെ ജര്*മ്മനീപ്പോയി പെടോളടിക്കാനും കാറുകഴുകാനും നില്*ക്കുന്നു!! ആരറിയാനാന്നേ?
:crazy2::crazy2:

Seriously, the hurdles are not that bad. Of course, you can't expect to get a CEO/manager job when you migrate this way, but it should be possible to get a job in your field at a level that is not too low from your current level. It takes only 3 months to learn spoken german, so that too is not a problem.

About return, I tend to agree with LightSR. I planned my RTI to make it before the kids are not too old, but still there was (and is) problem.

PPJ

February 28th, 2012, 03:17 AM

100% correct, when one get a chance, should experience travelling, working, living in another culture/country... But not sure about 'returning in mid 40' though :), there I would agree with RajeshVR.

+1
Everybody migrates thinking the same, but kids will stick to new place and you will also stick there. Unless kids grow up and get married and you are retired from job, dont expect a comeback. Well thats the trend now. People leave kerala young and comeback when retired and old.

sudheeshnairs

February 28th, 2012, 04:12 AM

People leave kerala young and comeback when retired and old.

Not with everybody, ha ha..

I left Kerala when I was nearing mid thirties and after close to a decade in my career. Actually it was not that much necesssary, but thought will have a change. I took two years to take a decision to join my wife in Bangalore and was flying between the cities on weekends. Eventhough Bangalore is treating me well, I believe I had a better life, more involved one, back home.

I still keep my identity proof, valid address, car registration, ration card, electoral card, census records etc in Trivandrum only. I connect with my parents & friends daily and spend a lot on flight tickets. My new home which I passionately built is also in Trivandrum and I make a point to sleep there on few weekends every month.

I think many of our SSC friends are also like that. Some in their late thirties also are shifting back home.

amalmohan

February 28th, 2012, 12:59 PM

this is interesting....
ജനസംഖ്യാനിയന്ത്രണം: വീണ്ടുവിചാരമാവാം (http://www.mathrubhumi.com/story.php?id=255002)

RKPV

February 28th, 2012, 04:14 PM

Interesting..! Edaya lekhanam patrathilum vannu thudangi :ohno:

this is interesting....
ജനസംഖ്യാനിയന്ത്രണം: വീണ്ടുവിചാരമാവാം (http://www.mathrubhumi.com/story.php?id=255002)

RKPV

February 28th, 2012, 05:45 PM

Additionally, The high school and primary graduate level education is better in Kerala and South Indian cities , than USA or elsewhere in Europe where a flexible edu. systems exist like USA.

This is one of the reasons, so many techie guys and our sudheesh ji getting a chance to live there.

+1
Everybody migrates thinking the same, but kids will stick to new place and you will also stick there. Unless kids grow up and get married and you are retired from job, dont expect a comeback. Well thats the trend now. People leave kerala young and comeback when retired and old.

Viveks

March 1st, 2012, 04:35 AM

Found this on FB. Ithil Kooduthal parayaan eniku onnum illaaa.... :nuts:

http://i44.tinypic.com/34eos8z.jpg

DileepKS

March 1st, 2012, 04:53 AM

Why this kolaveri da?

ajithv

March 1st, 2012, 05:47 AM

KFC aka KFC !! :lol:

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/9194/kfce.jpg

sanjupalayat

March 1st, 2012, 08:25 PM

Since the hot discussion in SSC nowadays is about Monorail, especially the Kerala threads, i would like to share an old Bollywood video from the movie "Love in Tokyo" where you can see monorail rolling over the pillars, never knew that the technology was popular even during the 60's.

Start from 1.15 minutes.

UNxPGHJr9vk

RKPV

March 1st, 2012, 09:04 PM

http://www.mathrubhumi.com/story.php?id=255656

It is a welcome move , except the high lighted one.
GPS, FM radio okke aa ganathil pedille?

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നൂറുമില്ലിലിറ്റര്* രക്തത്തില്* 30 ഗ്രാമിലോ അതില്* കൂടുതലോ മദ്യത്തിന്റെ അംശമുണ്ടെങ്കില്* ആറുമാസം വരെ തടവോ 2000 രൂപ പിഴയോ രണ്ടും കൂടിയോ ലഭിക്കാം. മദ്യത്തിന്റെ അംശം 60-150 ഗ്രാമാണെങ്കില്* ഒരുവര്*ഷം തടവോ 4000 രൂപയോ രണ്ടുംകൂടിയോ ലഭിക്കാം. മൂന്നുവര്*ഷത്തിനിടെ കുറ്റം രണ്ടാമത് ആവര്*ത്തിക്കുന്നവര്*ക്ക് മൂന്നുവര്*ഷം തടവും 8000 രൂപ പിഴയുമായിരിക്കും ശിക്ഷ.

150 മില്ലിഗ്രാമിലധികം മദ്യത്തിന്റെ അംശം രക്തത്തില്* കാണപ്പെട്ടാല്* , ആദ്യത്തെ തവണ രണ്ടുവര്*ഷം തടവും 5000 രൂപ പിഴയും. കുറ്റം ആവര്*ത്തിച്ചാല്* നാലുവര്*ഷം തടവും പതിനായിരം രൂപ പിഴയും. ലൈസന്*സ് റദ്ദാക്കുകയും ചെയ്യാം.

മരണകാരണമായി അപകടമുണ്ടാക്കുന്നതിനുള്ള ശിക്ഷയും വര്*ധിപ്പിച്ചിട്ടുണ്ട്. തട്ടിവീഴ്ത്തി പാഞ്ഞുപോകുന്ന കേസുകളില്* പിഴ 50,000ത്തില്*-നിന്ന് ഒരുലക്ഷം രൂപയായി ഉയര്*ത്തി.

മൊബൈലില്* സംസാരിച്ച് വണ്ടിയോടിക്കുന്നതിന് ആദ്യത്തെതവണ 500 രൂപയാണ് പിഴ. രണ്ടാംതവണ 2000 രൂപയും. മൊബൈല്* മാത്രമല്ല , വണ്ടിയോടിക്കുമ്പോള്*, സിഗ്*നലുകള്* ഉപയോഗിച്ച് വിവരങ്ങളോ ചിത്രങ്ങളോ സ്വീകരിക്കുകയോ ടെക്സ്റ്റ് സന്ദേശങ്ങള്* അയയ്ക്കുകയോ ചെയ്യുന്ന ഏത് ഉപകരണവും ഇതിന്റെ നിര്*വചനത്തില്*പ്പെടും. പാട്ടുകേള്*ക്കാന്* ഉപയോഗിക്കുന്ന ഐ പാഡും ഈ കൂട്ടത്തില്*പ്പെടും.

അപകടകരമായ രീതിയില്* വണ്ടിയോടിക്കുന്നതിന് ആറുമാസം തടവും ആയിരംരൂപ പിഴയും നല്*കേണ്ടി വരും. സിഗ്*നലുകള്* ലംഘിക്കുക തുടങ്ങിയ പൊതുനിയമലംഘനങ്ങള്*ക്ക് പിഴ ആദ്യതവണ 100 രൂപയായിരുന്നത് 500 രൂപയായും 300 രൂപയായിരുന്നത് 1000-1500 രൂപയായും ഉയരും. ലൈസന്*സില്ലാത്തവര്* വണ്ടിയോടിക്കുന്നതിനുള്ള പിഴയും 1000-ത്തില്*നിന്ന് 2000 രൂപയാക്കി. പ്രായപൂര്*ത്തിയാകാത്തവര്* വണ്ടിയോടിച്ചാല്* പിഴ നല്*കേണ്ടത് വാഹനഉടമയാണ്.

അമിതവേഗതയ്ക്കുള്ള പിഴ 400 രൂപയില്*നിന്ന് 1000 രൂപയായും തുടര്*ന്നും കുറ്റംചെയ്താലുള്ള പിഴ 2000 രൂപയില്*നിന്ന് 5000 രൂപയായും ഉയര്*ത്തി. മദ്യമല്ലാത്ത ലഹരിപദാര്*ഥങ്ങള്* ഉപയോഗിച്ച് വണ്ടിയോടിച്ചാലുള്ള പിഴ ആദ്യതവണ 2000 രൂപയും ആറുമാസം തടവുമായിരിക്കും. കുറ്റം ആവര്*ത്തിച്ചാല്* 3000 മുതല്* 10,000 രൂപവരെ പിഴ നല്*കേണ്ടിവരും.

രജിസ്*ട്രേഷന്* ഇല്ലാത്ത വാഹനമോടിക്കുന്നതിന് 20,000 രൂപ പിഴയോ ഒരുവര്*ഷം തടവോ നേരിടേണ്ടി വരും. ഹെല്*മെറ്റ് ധരിക്കാതിരിക്കുന്നതിനുള്ള ശിക്ഷ 1500 രൂപയായിരിക്കും. സീറ്റ്*ബെല്*ട്ട് ധരിക്കാതിരുന്നാല്* 500 മുതല്* 1500 വരെ രൂപ പിഴ നല്*കേണ്ടിവരും. ഭേദഗതികള്* ഇനി പാര്*ലമെന്*റില്* അവതരിപ്പിക്കും.

scorpiogenius

March 2nd, 2012, 01:01 AM

^^ This is good. Will force people to think twice before indulging in such activities. I think they have to increase it further.

Here is Oz the average fine for drink driving is 1000$; goes up depending on the level of alcohol in your blood. Whatever be the percentage you'll be banned from driving for 6months - 3 years...Here the banks have separate loans to pay off Traffic fines. One of our Malayalee guy got caught here with high blood alcohol levels. Lost his license for 2 years on top of a 2000$ fine (2000$ will be almost his average monthly income!). The fine will be direct debited from his bank account every month, around 220$ for 1 year. :lol: Lesson hard learned; he will remember this everytime the money comes out of his bank account

DileepKS

March 2nd, 2012, 01:58 AM

Yes. Astronomically high fines are the only viable enforcement here in India. High fines means high bribe. You can't wave an Rs 100 note at the pandu and get away.

I think radio is exempted because it doesn't receive images.

ajithv

March 2nd, 2012, 02:27 AM

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/1379/27281781.jpg

:cheers:

krp

March 2nd, 2012, 04:50 AM

Yes I too feel that higher fines on offending motorists are only going to increase bribes in Indian situation.

Instead I feel motorist with minor vehicle offences should be made to undergo corrective learning classes in addition to a reasonable fine. For drunken driving, suspension of license and not just higher fine amount, is needed.

The whole exercise by Central Govt. seems to be for higher revenue collection than disciplining offensive motorists..

ajithv

March 2nd, 2012, 04:59 AM

Instead I feel motorist with minor vehicle offences should be made to undergo corrective learning classes in addition to a reasonable fine.
Do you know how many such classes are conducting atleast in every month all over India? Eventhen the drivers are taking alcohol and driving; esp truck drivers.Not only alcohol, they are using Pan Parang etc.If you ask them why using these,the readymade answer is that "We can drive long distance without any sleep"...For drunken driving, higher fine and suspension of license will only effective, if implemented strictly.

ajithv

March 2nd, 2012, 05:41 AM

നായ നടുക്കടലില്* ചെന്നാലും നക്കിയേ കുടിക്കൂ :bash:

http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/9448/93380212.jpg

krp

March 2nd, 2012, 06:12 AM

Do you know how many such classes are conducting atleast in every month all over India? Eventhen the drivers are taking alcohol and driving; esp truck drivers.Not only alcohol, they are using Pan Parang etc.If you ask them why using these,the readymade answer is that "We can drive long distance without any sleep"...For drunken driving, higher fine and suspension of license will only effective, if implemented strictly.

Yes true and also many of these truck drivers possess more than one license from different states..

I was talking more about 2-wheeler and four wheeler riders private vehicles. For them, corrective classes may be imposed along with fines.

As for public transport heavy vehicle drivers, nothing less than suspension of DL and even jail term , if needed should be imposed for offences like drunken driving, drugs etc..

RajeshNair

March 2nd, 2012, 06:19 AM

??? ???????????* ????????? ??????? ???????? :bash:

Annie george is out of custody without furnishing any bond. She must have contributed heavily to someone's campaign fund. Rich folks can get away with any thing, whether it is US or INDIA

ajithv

March 2nd, 2012, 06:26 AM

I was talking more about 2-wheeler and four wheeler riders private vehicles. For them, corrective classes may be imposed along with fines.
:lol: How many of them will attend the class?

sudheeshnairs

March 2nd, 2012, 07:19 AM

The danger of drunken driving is more with heavy vehicles, the buses and trucks. If they lose control, the results would be more grave, endangering the lives of those inside the vehicles as well as on the roads.

With regards to two wheeler guy, the affected party would mostly be him only, eventhough it can be said that he may hit pedestrians also, but it might not be a grave thing at all when compared with a speeding out of control truck. The bike will crash on the road when he loses control, but the truck can run long causing disasters, after the driver loses control.

Life is getting tough, all cannot afford drivers, even though I dream of it these days. You would be having official meetings or parties or occasions very often in which drinks is an indispensible part. It doesn’t mean that you are drinking to the core and out of control. Even two glasses of wine from the club or party can leave you in soup, on the road if Police does the checking.

So my strategy is that if I am planning to stay late than 10 PM and looking to indulge more, arrange for a MERU and pool with other friends. If you are planning to leave by 9.30-10 pm, it is safe. In Bangalore, traffic is heavy till about 10.30 pm, so you are safe. Only after 11.30 pm, the barricades come up and police start checking.

Survival techniques:

Always have good road manners, drive normally, no speeding, loud music, changing lanes etc. Also less chances of being pulled up for checking if you are in a formal attire, with tie etc, and belted up.
Be specific of the timings; better to reach home within the rush hour traffic, nobody will check you. It depends from city to city and is normally 10.30 pm in Bangalore, esp in the Old Airport Stretch.
Use main roads only when there is heavy traffic, otherwise always weave in and out of inner roads and bylanes.
Driving within residential layouts, streets etc are safer.
The location of most check points/behavior of cops are predictable, watch out for such locations & avoid them.

It is always better to drink at home. But most of our brethren may be not lucky (as I am;)). Either their better halves would be objecting or they may not have enough privacy on their dwelling units.

rkpai13

March 2nd, 2012, 02:51 PM

Everybody is thinking that bribe will increase by strict traffic rules. That means everybody wants to drink and drive and pay police for this "minor" offence. And later claim that there is corruption in India.

Better to follow traffic rules. Isn't it?

sudheeshnairs

March 2nd, 2012, 06:49 PM

It is not that everybody wants to drink and drive and then pay bribe, (eventhough driving is nice after a couple of drinks.)

Personally I feel driving is ok if you are drinking till the limit which you are sure. But in the case of most our people it may not be practical. I always arrange for a taxi if I am planning to indulge much.

BTW it is not about paying bribe, you should not do it; it is about the smartness of not getting caught!

One interesting episode some years back in trivandrum. I had a couple of drinks till about 12 am or so at my home and then slept in the couch itself, around 1 am, I woke up and then went to the bedroom. As I was about to slip in to sleep again, I am getting a call in my mobile, it is from my close friend. He is calling from Police Station and said that he has been booked for drunken driving. Somebody with an 'Address' need to go there and give a statement that that person will take him back to his home safely (since inebriated condition), only then he would be released. He needs to go to the court next day, pay the fine and get the car released. I told him that I have also had some drinks to which he replied no issue, you come. I then took my car, drove some 5 km and went to the police station with my id proof and then got him released. The police guys had heard our conversation that I had also some drinks, anyway my friend was jovial and was cracking jokes with them and they also laughed it out. Anyway he didn't pay any bribe, next day paid some Rs. 3000/- at court and got the car released.

In Bangalore also this is the norm, you cannot escape by paying some 500 or 1000. The cops will get you a taxi or an auto to reach home leaving the car with them. Next day need to go to court, pay the 3000+ fine and get back the car.

amalmohan

March 3rd, 2012, 05:15 AM

കേരളം കുതിക്കും, ഇതാ പത്ത് കാരണങ്ങള്* (http://www.dhanammagazine.com/php/coverStoryDetails.php?cov=2010)

ajithv

March 3rd, 2012, 07:20 AM

മിമിക്രി എന്നാല്* ഇതാണ് :cheers:

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Aslesh

March 3rd, 2012, 09:40 AM

OOVbymGE_ls

Venunair

March 3rd, 2012, 10:07 AM

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amalmohan

March 4th, 2012, 07:01 AM

Kochi: The Kerala Chamber of Commerce and Industry (Kwill spend Rs 30 crore to set up a business television channel, said KCCI Chairman K N Marzook. The channel is expected to be launched in September following the inauguration of Kerala Trade Centre, the chamber's new building, on August 17 by President Pratibha Patil. "We will tap funding from non-resident Indians (NRIs) in the US, UK, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. Our overseas division, headed by N M Sharafuddin, MD of Omega Travel and Tourist Agency, will be in charge of fundraising for the channel," Marzook said.

The new channel will be called 'KCCI', which will use the logo of the organization and operate out of the upcoming Kerala Trade Centre on Marine Drive. "The channel will function as an independent organization; we are in talks with three Mumbai-based companies to manage the channel for KCCI," Marzook said. Finding ad revenue for the new channel wouldn't be a problem, Marzook said.

"It is the members of KCCI who support the existing television channels with advertisements. Further, we just need our channel to be run on a no-loss-no-profit basis," he said. "We have prospects of getting advertisements from multinational companies as one or two teleshopping brands have also evinced interest," he said.

Kochi-based KCCI has a direct membership of 3,500 businessmen and industrialists across the state. This apart, it has 36 associated bodies, and the total indirect membership is expected to touch around one lakh. "Kerala has close to two dozen television channels. By the end of 2012, a few more channels will be added to this cacophony," observed Dominic Savio, vice-president and head of advertising firm Mudra Communications Kerala. "General entertainment channels and news channels dominate the category, and together account for 50% of the total channels. Surprisingly, we have more channels devoted to religion than movie or music channels. This is something advertisers should take note of. The proliferation of channels and stiff competition has made existing channels invest in better programs because what sells today are programs and not channels. This will probably encourage more channels to come in," he added.

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-03-02/kochi/31116430_1_new-channel-advertisements-ad-revenue

mohammedirshad06

March 4th, 2012, 07:46 AM

OOVbymGE_ls

I would completely join with K.Babu. Not specific to this incident. In General, the quality of Reporter News is almost similar to Fire or any other Yellow Journalism..... Too Pathetic. Infact, ever since Nikesh Kumar developed an interest in Ice Cream case during his Indiavision days, the focus ofIndiavision and later Reporter changed from general reporting, to individual targeting and over-sensationalization.

They seems to have no basic ethos or journalistic principles. I never seen they reporting any development issue or any news of positive value. Even the way they handled Padmanabhaswamy temple news, as if they have some sort vengeance against Royal Family and temple authorities, rather than reporting about the treasures or its origins or past even in so-called investigative journalism program- Adayalam.

Nikesh seems to have lost his sheer sense of balanced journalism and productive news reporting during his early days in Asianet or Indiavision... Now it seems he became more commie than Kairali TV.... Most of its programs now airs extreme Leftist viewpoints, more leftist than CPM/CPI ideologies which in general have strong traits of individual haunting and targetting system.....

maheshponneth

March 4th, 2012, 08:07 AM

mohammedirshad06

March 4th, 2012, 08:30 AM

^^ I have a question to you,MI, which is the channel, who has view point that you mentioned above? Which newspaper or channel have development topic? When you opened the nonorama, there will be the news of Arun Kumar only. None of our news paper or channels claim on development news.

But I think, some efforts of Reporter to bring the evils of Politics into light is remarkable. In the present democratic scenario, the people can question this kind of political leaders only in election period. Thereafter it is not possible. So in my humble opinion, the newspapers/ channels should be in front side to question the political leaders lazyness, inefficiency and wrong activities.

I am not saying, we are having 100% prefect News channel. For that mattereven BBC or CNN is not too...

But if you watch Manorama or Asianet and compare with Indiavision or Reporter, there is a signficiant difference. Manorama always attack its opponents, particularly communists. But its never 24x7 kind of thing.... Here, the moment you open Reporter, they have either only Kunjahalikutty or Rauf or the Ice Cream case to tell. If you want a break, they have some other individual targetted stories to tell..... Nothing else.

Manorama or Asianet, dedicated atleast 30 to 40% news to development matters. Here we have two new channels dedicated to over-sensationalism...... I had a deep interest to watch Ice Cream during 2004-2005 period in Indiavision... But there is a limit to anything. How long you can continue telling same Rajina story and other stories forever? Even mainstream newspapers seems to be fed up with this story, but Indiavision and Reporter seems not.........

I personally lost interest in watching both Indiavision and Reporter, which in my opinion are purely meant to tarnish individuals with no other content.....

RajeshVR

March 4th, 2012, 08:31 AM

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Norka-Roots call centre begins functioning

THIRUVANANTHAPURAM: Norka-Roots has started a call centre for helping non-resident Keralites and their relatives. The call centre functions from 8am to 8pm and those from within the country can contact on toll free number 1800 425 3939. Another line, +91471 2333339 is available for those calling from abroad.

Using this helpline, one can avail details about the new projects of Norka-Roots, NRK welfare fund and other government schemes, said a press release from Norka-Roots. Details about various employment opportunities abroad and legal formalities about work permit and visa will also be available from the call centre.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/thiruvananthapuram/Norka-Roots-call-centre-begins-functioning/articleshow/12126630.cms

RajeshVR

March 4th, 2012, 10:09 AM

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/419164_10150639496908676_205051538675_9012689_214817987_n.jpge

We all are talking about malls.

അവസരം കിട്ടുമ്പോള് ഇവരെയൊക്കെ സഹായിക്കുക...
ലാഭത്തിനു വേണ്ടിയല്ല മറിച്ചു ജീവിക്കാന് വേണ്ടിയാണ് ഇവര്കഷ്ട്ടപെടുന്നത്..

ajithv

March 4th, 2012, 11:42 AM

^^
From Facebook :)

DileepKS

March 4th, 2012, 12:28 PM

^^And please, do not haggle!!

I have personally seen people who gladly shell out the inflated prices at big shops, but haggle hard with the poor sidewalk vendors. Once we were traveling with another family, and they saw some earthen pots. The lady, who just spent five digit amounts in shopping, started haggling for a two digit sum. She seems to be happy about the Rs 15 discount she got!!

I have a policy to buy such things on face value. Except of course, at occasions where I am convinced that the price is over-inflated to cheating level.

maheshponneth

March 4th, 2012, 02:26 PM

abhilashtvpm

March 5th, 2012, 04:37 PM

All set to host world’s largest annual gathering of women

THIRUVANANTHAPURAM: If you are planning to visit Thiruvananthapuram this Wednesday, better think twice. More than 3 million women from India and abroad will be laying siege to the capital city of Kerala from 4:00 am to 5:00 pm on that day .

No, it is not for any agitation against economic liberalisation or harassment against women. Wednesday marks the Attukal Pongala, where women, irrespective of caste, creed and religion, descend on the city to perform the annual ritual of Pongala to the presiding deity of Attukal Temple, the Supreme Mother.

“The Guinness Book of World Records has rated this as is the world’s largest annual gathering of women. Last year we saw more than 3 million women descending at Thiruvananthapuram on the Pongala Day,” M Radhakrishnan Nair, president, Attukal Trust, the agency entrusted with the temple administration, told DNA.

He said the intelligence agencies had told the temple authorities to be prepared to host 3.5 million women for this year’s Pongala. The city will remain out of bound for all males other than the priests, the temple volunteers and local police force.

What makes the temple festival of Pongala unique is the presence of women from India and abroad. “Though this was considered as an exclusive Hindu festival, it has become a thing of the past. Attukal Pongala is a festival featuring Hindus, Muslims, Christians, and all other religions,” said Laila Venukumar, an ardent devotee of Attukal Amma. She said many of her friends from Christian and Muslim faiths join her in offeringPongala (a mixture of rice, jaggery, ghee and coconut cooked as an offering to the deity).

Mohammed Ghouse, a former bank official, settled in the temple neighbourhood, said thousands of Muslim women join their Hindu counterparts in the offering. “But what makes the temple festival really interesting is that the entire Muslim community in Thiruvananthapuram throw open their doors for the devotees to prepare the Pongala,” said Ghouse.

DNA (http://www.dnaindia.com/mobile/report.php?n=1658770)

mohammedirshad06

March 5th, 2012, 04:49 PM

Very Happy to report, that Italian Marines who involved in shoot-out in seas were taken to Poojapura Central Jail, after Kerala Police refused to ask for further police custody. As a result, the court asked the Marines to move to Central Jail.

Happy, atleast they spend one day in Central Jail, instead of spending in air-conditioned guest house at CISF Guest House.....:banana:

RajeshVR

March 6th, 2012, 10:28 AM

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CM , Ooommen Chandy praying at Attukal Bhagavathy Temple.

simpliCITY

March 6th, 2012, 10:33 AM

How he can enter the temple?? with others wearing shirts?? is Attukal temple has some other tradition??

RajeshVR

March 6th, 2012, 10:40 AM

How he can enter the temple?? with others wearing shirts?? is Attukal temple has some other tradition??

I think this is the outer entrance, where one can wear shirt. But if we need to go inside of this entrance need to remove shirt. In Attukal temple all believers can enter , I mean non-Hindus are also allowed.

RajeshVR

March 6th, 2012, 11:12 AM

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mohammedirshad06

March 6th, 2012, 04:04 PM

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rajkrish

March 6th, 2012, 04:08 PM

I think this is the outer entrance, where one can wear shirt. But if we need to go inside of this entrance need to remove shirt. In Attukal temple all believers can enter , I mean non-Hindus are also allowed.

That's not right. In Attukal you don't have to remove the shirt while going inside.

ajithv

March 7th, 2012, 03:57 PM

The issue getting serious in Italy !

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simpliCITY

March 7th, 2012, 05:06 PM

ivar entha ee parayunne??

mohammedirshad06

March 7th, 2012, 06:11 PM

I really admire the Italian Govt and attitude of Italian public. Kudos for them, for showing support to their men in distress.... We have lots to learn from them......

http://static.dnaindia.com/images/cache/1659580.jpg

Staffan de Mistura the Italian deputy foreign minister is the most talked about name in Kerala nowadays. Not because he is a foreigner with fair complexion or the imported limousines in which he is driven around in Kochi, Kollam and Thiruvananthapuram.

But for the politically conscious people of the state, the Italian deputy foreign minister is a new experience. He is not here on any trade or commerce mission. Mistura has only one objective — to ensure the safety and well being of the two Italian marines who have been arrested by police in connection with the murder of two fishermen off the Kerala coast on February 15.

Massimilano Latore and Salvatore Girone, the marines of the Italian Navy posted on board the ship Enrico Lexie, are believed to have shot and killed two fishermen in the fishing boat St Antony mistaking them for pirates.

The marines were taken into custody by the Kerala Police within two days of the incident. The arrests could be made only after the arrival of GiamPaolo Coutillo, the Italian consul general, who has been accompanying the marines in their trips to the Kollam Judicial magistrate court and to Poojappura Central Jail.

Both the marines who were in police custody for a fortnight were accommodated at the colonial style guest house of the CISF at Wellington Island in Kochi. Coutillo too stayed with them in an adjacent suite.

Mistura arrived in New Delhi on February 19 and since then he has been shuttling between Kochi, Thiruvananthapuram, Kollam and New Delhi to ensure that the marines are well protected.

Though the Italian minister tried to get an appointment with Kerala chief minister Oommen Chandi at the state capital, he could not succeed because the chief minister was away at Idukki for a mass contact programme.

Mistura, not one to be cowed down with such excuses and inconveniences, drove down to Idukki, almost 300 km away from the capital to meet Chandi. He had to wait till midnight to meet the chief minister.

Doing away with protocol and all other formalities, he has stuck to his mission of liberating the marines and taking them with him back to Italy.

He rushed to Thiruvananthapuram when he was told that Latore and Girone were to be sent to Poojappura Central Jail. The minister pleaded with the jail authorities not to put the marines in the jail. He requested the director general of police (prison) to accommodate his countrymen in some guest houses.

The Kerala Police officials are to take a final decision about their place of residence during the period of judicial custody later on Wednesday.

People in Kerala hold Mistura in high regards, not because of his Italian origin, but for the way he ensures the well being of his countrymen. This is the way ministers should treat their people.

"In Kerala, we have seen the ministers washing their hands off when we approach them with problems faced by those working abroad. Indifference is the hallmark of our ministers,” said a veteran journalist.

http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_in-kerala-staffan-de-mistura-is-the-most-talked-about-man_1659567

krp

March 7th, 2012, 06:24 PM

tit for tat.. :nuts:

Right-Wing Italian Group Plans ‘Blitz’ on Indian Restaurants
http://blogs.wsj.com/indiarealtime/2012/03/07/right-wing-italian-group-plans-blitz-on-indian-restaurants/

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March 7th, 2012, 07:14 PM

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ajithv

March 8th, 2012, 02:20 AM

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RKPV

March 8th, 2012, 03:47 AM

ivar entha ee parayunne??

namukku soniyaajiyodu chodichu nokkam. angane vittal patoolallo...

RKPV

March 8th, 2012, 03:55 AM

DileepKS

March 8th, 2012, 04:34 AM

It is the government's duty to protect its citizens to any level needed, guilty or not, and Italy is doing an enviable job at that. Wouldn't you do whatever it takes to protect your kin, when they end up in trouble?

Our nation does the opposite. They strictly believe in the motto "Ask not what your country can do for you -- ask what can you do for your country". The primary (secondary, and upto the last) purpose of the embassy is to provide a cushy posting for the babus, and to take care of the visiting high babus and politicos. Nothing else.

Recently, singer Markose ended up in Saudi jail because of some paara from the feuding mallu groups. The embassy didn't even know such a thing first, and then they did absolutely nothing. After he was released, they claimed that they "thought he is already released long ago".

mohammedirshad06

March 8th, 2012, 06:02 AM

meeen pidikkan poya pavappetta randu pere ethinte perilayalum vedi vechu konnathu kolapath akam thanne aanu. Avanmare rakshikkan nokkunnathum kuttakaram thanne. cheyyunnathu sayipp ayaondu nammal kavathu marakkanada....

Their government itself is a mafia.

http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_in-kerala-staffan-de-mistura-is-the-most-talked-about-man_1659567[/QUOTE]

A govt is bound to protect its citizen abroad, even if the crime is proven and accused is found guilty. Its the basic fundamental duty of a country. Italians are doing their job to prefect.... What appears fault to us, may not be a fault in front of them. Even if so, they have the right to seek extradition of such accused and allow them to serve their sentences in their own country, if they have any extradition treaty in place.

The actions of Kerala police against Italian Marines and Italian intervention does reminds lots of scenes in movie Urumi..... I hope there is no such Jagathy Character in real life, to save marines from Jail........

Happy that atleast we could able to prison them even for a day.... In past, when Bhopal Tragedy struck, the first priority of Govt was to save Union Carbide Chairman out of India. Things have changed a lot from there.......

sudheeshnairs

March 8th, 2012, 06:20 AM

I really admire the Italian Govt and attitude of Italian public. Kudos for them, for showing support to their men in distress.... We have lots to learn from them......

It is the government's duty to protect its citizens to any level needed, guilty or not, and Italy is doing an enviable job at that. Wouldn't you do whatever it takes to protect your kin, when they end up in trouble?

Our nation does the opposite. They strictly believe in the motto "Ask not what your country can do for you -- ask what can you do for your country". The primary (secondary, and upto the last) purpose of the embassy is to provide a cushy posting for the babus, and to take care of the visiting high babus and politicos. Nothing else.

Fully agree with you guys.

I have felt disappointed/frustrated many times when similar things happen to Indians and our Govt acts indifferently. Leave ordinary citizens, even the soldiers who in general have more immunity are also treated the same. I still remember a cover photo on a national magazine of the body of a dead Indian soldier tied on his legs and arms to a pole and carried by some Bangladeshi villagers in the border. I don't think anything was done regarding that episode where some bangladeshi villagers killed some Indian soldiers on the border, rather than some statements by GoI. What is the use of the so called Power or Strength if it is not exhibited??

Full marks to the Italian Govt in this for standing by their marines/citizens. Other countries which I admire are Israel and US and generally most of the European nations who stand by their citizen who are in distress. Can you imagine any of our ministers or babus doing like what the Italians do? I don’t think; even if they do, it will be out of pressure and not from the heart!

meeen pidikkan poya pavappetta randu pere ethinte perilayalum vedi vechu konnathu kolapath akam thanne aanu. Avanmare rakshikkan nokkunnathum kuttakaram thanne. cheyyunnathu sayipp ayaondu nammal kavathu marakkanada....

RKPV, even for crimes committed by Indians in Indian land also, the dear and near ones will be trying to help them get acquitted. It is guaranteed under our law and a person should be seen not as guilty till the time he gets convicted by the court.

And here things are little different unlike the crimes committed by an ordinary citizen, within the boundaries of the country. Things would have been different also if an Italian tourist had killed some Indian in Indian soil. Since the accused are marines, in Uniform, and there is still uncertainty regarding the location of the crime, they have more immunity.

Hope the law takes its own course and GoI doesn’t take a different stance once the Piravom elections are over. We are hearing about the imminent Rs. 5/- hike in Petrol any time as the ‘Elections’ are over, so nothing can be ruled out.

simpliCITY

March 8th, 2012, 09:20 AM

Google Translation of a comment from an Italian news site
but the Italians have been invited to or have them removed?
If you were invited to support their argument, well, even if he should just be the commander being held accountable.
If instead they were taken, and that 'a clear violation of international agreements that require absolutely no military of other nations that are taken against their will by a structure, boat, plane or otherwise, which flies the flag of the nation.
This' should be considered "hostile act" in military terms means "hand to arms."
The Indians do so because they 'are not aware of international agreements or to prove they are a nuclear power?

Is there any such international agreement existed??

simpliCITY

March 8th, 2012, 09:34 AM

I really admire the Italian Govt and attitude of Italian public. Kudos for them, for showing support to their men in distress.... We have lots to learn from them......

http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_in-kerala-staffan-de-mistura-is-the-most-talked-about-man_1659567

It is nothing but a white-men chauvinism. They just think India as a poverty stricken country with ugly politics and impotent judiciary. So they want their beloved army men get free from this trouble. I don't think it is a government's duty to run after every criminal from their country to make him free. That is not fair

Funnily enough, If there is a case between an European country and an African or Asian country, the western media will portrait the non European as a barbaric regime, but if it is between western Europe and eastern Europe. you will see news about the bad manners of former communist east.:lol: and finally if it is a case between US&A and western Europe, you will suddenly see the Europeans as less educated less modern nations... :lol::lol::lol:
It is their way of making propaganda.

simpliCITY

March 8th, 2012, 09:38 AM

Recently, singer Markose ended up in Saudi jail because of some paara from the feuding mallu groups. The embassy didn't even know such a thing first, and then they did absolutely nothing. After he was released, they claimed that they "thought he is already released long ago".

Our Embassies especially in the ME states are a joke. But please consider the the population they serve, it is bigger than the population of respective governments serves in these countreis :nuts:.. They are working as mini(not mini, bigger than many countries in the World) republics with limited fund and limited employees.

RajeshVR

March 8th, 2012, 10:08 AM

Our Embassies especially in the ME states are a joke. But please consider the the population they serve, it is bigger than the population of respective governments serves in these countreis :nuts:.. They are working as mini(not mini, bigger than many countries in the World) republics with limited fund and limited employees.

^^
Point noted.:)

sudheeshnairs

March 8th, 2012, 10:21 AM

First of all, to make it clear, I am not supporting Italy. Law should take its own way.

It is nothing but a white-men chauvinism. They just think India as a poverty stricken country with ugly politics and impotent judiciary. So they want their beloved army men get free from this trouble. .

It is not fair from our side to have a prejudice it is chauvinism.

I don't think it is a government's duty to run after every criminal from their country to make him free. That is not fair .

You may not think that way; but most of the developed world where the administration is accountable to the people thinks so. That’s value of the PASSPORT one holds! If we were a better, responsible and accountable country, we would also be enjoying those benefits of your country standing by your side.

I recently read that Israel freed some 500+ Palestinian war prisoners in exchange for a single Israeli soldier who was in Palestinian custody. That’s the depth of accountability a state has for its army men and I salute them. An US Marine was recently involved in a shootout in Pakistan killing a civilian (don’t remember exactly, but I think that guy was also on the other side of law) and US got his release after a hard struggle.

Here, as they are marines serving the country, it is the responsibility of the country to try for their release. Also not to brand the marines as ‘criminals’ also as a person need to be treated as innocent till convicted. Moreover, the shooting can be more of a mistaken identity. We have to be in each other’s shoes and think. It’s been said that Europeans/Americans are very paranoid about terrorism/ safety these days, unlike Indians for whom now it is a normal thing and the life becomes normal in the next day even if a bomb blast happens today and kills a few.

Our Embassies especially in the ME states are a joke. But please consider the the population they serve, it is bigger than the population of respective governments serves in these countreis :nuts:.. They are working as mini(not mini, bigger than many countries in the World) republics with limited fund and limited employees.
It is not fair from our side also to have a prejudice that

Citing population is not an excuse for everything. If the population you have to serve is bigger, then you have to be more efficient rather than leaving them for other’s mercy. And that is the sad thing which is the bane of Indians.

maheshponneth

March 8th, 2012, 10:29 AM

It is nothing but a white-men chauvinism. They just think India as a poverty stricken country with ugly politics and impotent judiciary. So they want their beloved army men get free from this trouble. I don't think it is a government's duty to run after every criminal from their country to make him free. That is not fair

Funnily enough, If there is a case between an European country and an African or Asian country, the western media will portrait the non European as a barbaric regime, but if it is between western Europe and eastern Europe. you will see news about the bad manners of former communist east.:lol: and finally if it is a case between US&A and western Europe, you will suddenly see the Europeans as less educated less modern nations... :lol::lol::lol:
It is their way of making propaganda.
I think you are correct. If a desperate person, got punishment, then it is duty of Government to force the other countries' governments/judiciary to withdraw punishments. But if a person who lives in other countries, who purposely did the crime, then it is not the duty of Government to follow him. Because he is deserved the punishment. The Government won't question our Government's support to criminal? it will tarnish our image in the world.
Here the italian government understood that their soldiers did evil. and it affected their image. So they are interested to cover up the matters and to escape from the problem.
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"jeevan poyathu poyi. namukkenthu prashnam alle." I am sure that this kind of attitude won't take place in arab countries.

simpliCITY

March 8th, 2012, 10:32 AM

First of all, to make it clear, I am not supporting Italy. Law should take its own way.
It is not fair from our side to have a prejudice it is chauvinism.

If you go Through Italian Media in the internet, You will get what I meant.

You may not think that way; but most of the developed world where the administration is accountable to the people thinks so. That’s value of the PASSPORT one holds! If we were a better, responsible and accountable country, we would also be enjoying those benefits of your country standing by your side.

That is how the world order works, And my point was I simply hate this world order.
If you have muscles, you misuse it for every single cause. whether it is genuine or not. These countrymen-love only works when the other party is weak. I don't think any European Country will make any Negotiations with USA to get any criminal free.

As you mentioned, here the case is different as it involved two soldiers on duty. I was saying don't compare this special case with every Indian criminals facing trial in foreign countries. - It was an answer to MI for his sudden Italian love.

It is not fair from our side also to have a prejudice that

Citing population is not an excuse for everything. If the population you have to serve is bigger, then you have to be more efficient rather than leaving them for other’s mercy. And that is the sad thing which is the bane of Indians.

I was not defending Indian Embassies impotency. But just saying that there is some reasons behind it that we cannot ignore easily.

mohammedirshad06

March 8th, 2012, 10:44 AM

I personally believe the Italians must be punished. But we can't brand at very first instance, that they are hard core criminals etc... After all, they haven't killed the fishermen intentionally. At the same time, they had done mistake of not cross checking, whether they were pirates or not. They could have atleast fired warning shots as well as initimated SOS to Maritime center or Navy.

So here you have two major issues- a case of mistaken identity and a case of not following standard procedures. And punishment is surely for not following standing procedures, which resulted in killing 2 innocent people. And they must be pay for it and will serve other marines/ships in future that India will take action, if they take things lightly.

At the same time, I am equally happy to see the level of support their ministers and embassy team is spending.... They are setting a right model. Whether marines have done wrong or not, is something only COURT can say at end of the day. Till then, they should not be made scrapgoat, by leaving them half way in distress. Rather, Italian Govt is full supporting them and consoling them in their distress.

In my opinion, once the trial is finished and if any punishment awarded to Marines, surely we can expect Italian govt putting up more pressure against that. Instead, once the award of punishment declared, the govt of India must seek a very hefty amount as fine say Rs 20 Crore for each deceased and must be awarded to the family and ensuring once extradited, they will be barred from further services.

In this manner, even victim will be compensated by more fair justice, while they get punishment. There is no point in holding them few weeks after declaring Punishment and later freed under some UN law or bilateral process......

mohammedirshad06

March 8th, 2012, 10:54 AM

As you mentioned, here the case is different as it involved two soldiers on duty. I was saying don't compare this special case with every Indian criminals facing trial in foreign countries. - It was an answer to MI for his sudden Italian love.

Well, I am not loving Italian Marines and their actions. But the way they post one Minister back in India, to pressurize and lobby for the sake of release of one of their men..... Thats really patriotic of them, for them... We even haven't done anything when India's most respected man, Abdul Kalam was humiliated in US Airport, not once, but twice......

Well, I agree, the attitude of European/whites are generally like this when involving non European/western powers..... Thats something we have to prove otherwise. Surely, no power will play spoilsport when Thailand is involved or Japan or China as these countries have proved N number of times, they will not hear any other ones, when a foreigner has involved into a crime in their country. Bangkok's Hilton has more foreign prisoners, even some high profile and no kind of lobbying ever used to work there.

If India proves this time, from next time onwards we will not see this. And I believe, as a rising nation, we will prove so.

Secondly, I don't find fault in Western European attitudes, as the world and humankind is like this only. Chanakya says in his arthashastra, if the rival King is less powerful than you, fear him... If he is of equal, lobby and make terms with him.... And if he is more powerful, always believe that what he says is absolute right.....

Thats the prefect way how Humankind works and will only work.... Europeans used to believe, Asians, particularly South Asians are less powerful, so they used terroize us... Now they treat somewhat equal- so lobbying.... Whereas they always say US is right, because latter is more mightier and hence they are prefect...Tommorrow they will too say same with India.....

Thanks......