NSSF to build Tanzanian embassy in Nairobi

The National Social Security Fund (NSSF) yesterday signed an agreement with K&M Archplans Limited to provide detailed designs for the construction of a planned Chancery at Tanzania ís High Commission in Nairobi. The signing was done at the Fundís headquarters in Dar es Salaam by NSSFís Director General Dr Ramadhani Dau and Mr James Kimathi of K&M Archplans Ltd.

Under the new agreement the designers are charged with providing structural details for the planned building before commencement of the tendering process. K&M Archplans Limited has offices in Nairobi and Dar es Salaam The agreement is part of the governmentís long-term effort to minimize administrative costs by constructing and owning buildings housing the countryís foreign missions. Already the government owns 17 such premises out of her 32 foreign missions worldwide.

The initial agreement that resulted in the current agreement was signed on February 28, 2008 by Dr Dau and former acting Permanent Secretary in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation Ambassador Abubakar Ibrahim.

The project is estimated to cost 23.4 million US dollars. However, the actual construction cost will be known after receipt of construction bids and detailed design data.The government, whose equity in the new project includes the ownership of Plot No. 209/3678 in the up market Upper Hill area of Nairobi , will control 20 per cent of the projectís share capital while the Fund will control the remaining 80 per cent.

The new 26 storey chancery will be built close to the British High Commission and the Embassy of Japan. The construction is scheduled to kick off in September and is expected to be completed by March 2012 before formal handing over in October 2012.

Can't wait. I hope it will have a nice design. :cheers:

This may outsmart the Kenyan embassy in Dar es Salaam.

So, are they going to lease space in it to private companies?

Since this Chancery is a Tanzanian diplomatic tool, I believe they will give priorities for lease to Tanzanian government or private concerns. I read some interesting discussions in the popular Tanzanian discussion forum; JamiiForums.com about this projects which has been on cards since last year, one person argued that the N.S.S.F(Tz) had previously acquired a plot somewhere in Dar and was yet to develop it. The blogger wondered why NSSF is investing huge amount of capital to construct a 26 storey prime chancery in Nairobi, Kenya (an unstable foreign country) yet Tanzania as a whole did not even have a tower of that magnitude!

That's a really big building for just a chancery!!
Is that really the best use of Tanzanian money?!

there you go...

http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae190/tanzan_2010/SANY2147.jpg

The name of the building will change to Umoja House symbolizing Tanzania and Kenya's unity:)

there you go...

http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae190/tanzan_2010/SANY2147.jpg

The name of the building will change to Umoja House symbolizing Tanzania and Kenya's unity:)

I lack words!!! Thats breathtaking, thanks Tanzan.^^

wow, i like the design :cheers::cheers:tanzan keep the good work :rock:

its a political and business move. The Govt wants to own a Chancery in Nairobi and NSSF wants to diversify it investment portfoli

its a political and business move. The Govt wants to own a Chancery in Nairobi and NSSF wants to diversify it investment portfolio

^^yep, its true :lol:

the renders look more like the upcoming KCB bank headquaters that will be comissioned later this year............Wow its a massive project>>>>

the renders look more like the upcoming KCB bank headquaters that will be comissioned later this year............Wow its a massive project>>>>

^^did you have renders for that project, try to share with us :)

This may outsmart the Kenyan embassy in Dar es Salaam

http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae190/tanzan_2010/kq.jpg

It also houses KCB Corporate Office(they moved from PPF tower in CBD) and a Catering outlet.

it is located in Oysterbay area out of city center

the renders look more like the upcoming KCB bank headquaters that will be comissioned later this year............Wow its a massive project>>>>

I thought you said the KCB Headquarters was to be a 40 fl. tower. All the same, this tower is impressive.

I thought you said the KCB Headquarters was to be a 40 fl. tower. All the same, this tower is impressive.

better make it 45 floors just to make sure it is the highest in East Africa ;)

I thought you said the KCB Headquarters was to be a 40 fl. tower. All the same, this tower is impressive.

^^he said over 60 floors if i am not wrong :)

^^he said over 60 floors if i am not wrong :)

Ok! Now that's tall for Nairobi.

GIO better get this sucker posted for iam on the loop to get it posted out*.

GIO better get this sucker posted for iam on the loop to get it posted out*.

pleeeeez post it! I have been eagerly waiting for news on this project for weeks.

wow! 60 floors...:banana:

60 floors is tall for Nairobi but where are the plans good people, can someone post some for us to admire already?

Did I see something about the national assembly?

Did I see something about the national assembly?

Their are plans going to expand the national assembly. About the 60 storeys we are keeping our eyes open -the construction is slated to be in upperhill though.

http://www.kmarchplans.com/images/Projects-Tanzania-House_03.jpghttp://www.kmarchplans.com/images/Projects-Tanzania-House_07.jpg

^^love it :cheers:

has anybody seen a render of the 60 floor building? I would love so much to see it.

http://www.kmarchplans.com/images/Projects-Tanzania-House_03.jpghttp://www.kmarchplans.com/images/Projects-Tanzania-House_07.jpg

Beautiful.:)

Their are plans going to expand the national assembly.

If the new constitution sails through. At least they will need a new building to house the senate.

I had not seen these pictures...it will really add to upper hill skyline. A positive sign for Tanzania investing in Kenya.

this project might not even take place

Politicians especially the current minister of Foreign Affairs Mr Membe is derailing it stating that the Govt stake is too small compared to NSSF which will build the structure using their funds!

Typical WaBongo

this project might not even take place

Politicians especially the current minister of Foreign Affairs Mr Membe is derailing it stating that the Govt stake is too small compared to NSSF which will build the structure using their funds!

Typical WaBongo

well stop using the government funds then! :lol:

well stop using the government funds then! :lol:

I think their NSSF (National Social Security Fund) is a Govt. corporation,as the Kenyan one,though I am not sure!:ohno:I believe its the peoples money,not the Governments.

Typical WaBongo

^^
Please, don't start that here!

what does wabongo mean?

what does wabongo mean?

Tanzanians.

hmm, I hope this thing is actually built.

I just have to point out that GIO has not been here for weeks, and I'm dying to see the renders of the 60 floor bank HQ. Has anyone got any info?

Anybody with renders for the bank hq? Itching to have a look at them!! Looking at the profile KCB has across the region it deserves a greater image of financial stability evidenced by a large physical presence which can make shareholders and customers feel confident as its stakeholders.

I think their NSSF (National Social Security Fund) is a Govt. corporation,as the Kenyan one,though I am not sure!:ohno:I believe its the peoples money,not the Governments.

I believe the proper way to phrase it is that the money belongs to the people but its in the custody of a government agency.

How can an embassy have over 26 floors? Embassies are usually lowrise buildings. Are there any other skyscraper embassies anywhere in the world?

How can an embassy have over 26 floors? Embassies are usually lowrise buildings. Are there any other skyscraper embassies anywhere in the world?

If you notice, the tower has two buildings -the diplomatic tower(16 Flr) that will house the embassie and its functionaries and the tall commercial tower(26 Flr) that will be-presumably for rental and among others house Tanzania's business conglomerates.

http://s03.flagcounter.com/count/0NBu/bg=FFFFFF/txt=FFFFFF/border=FFFFFF/columns=1/maxflags=1/viewers=3/labels=0/ (http://s03.flagcounter.com/more/0NBu)

Its beyond my comprehension to see the Tanzanians building a 26floor complex in Kenya whereas they dont have any building reaching that height in their own country. They need to get their priorities straight.:ohno:

Its beyond my comprehension to see the Tanzanians building a 26floor complex in Kenya whereas they dont have any building reaching that height in their own country. They need to get their priorities straight.:ohno:


Sounds crazy to me..lol!

Its beyond my comprehension to see the Tanzanians building a 26floor complex in Kenya whereas they dont have any building reaching that height in their own country. They need to get their priorities straight.:ohno:

Maybe they do now or will next year sample some of these Dar'es constructions(courtesy tanzan).

http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae190/tanzan_2010/DSC05704.jpg

http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae190/tanzan_2010/DSC03492.jpg

http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae190/tanzan_2010/DSC03488.jpg

It is true that this project raised some eye brows in Tanzania because we hardly have enough such towers.

Here are some Major Towers underconstruction:
Viva Tower:21 floors
PSPF Tower: 24 floors
Uhuru Heights: 25 floors
Umoja wa Vijana: 20+25 floors
Millenium Tower: 27 floors & many more under 20 floors

Major Towers Proposed:
Mwalimu Nyerere Towers: 15+20 floors
Rita Tower:24 floors
Mzizima Towers: 27 floors
PSPF Commercial Towers:32+32 floors
Ilala Municipal Tower:40 floors
Mchikichini Towers: 35+35+50 floors

It is true that this project raised some eye brows in Tanzania because we hardly have enough such towers.

Here are some Major Towers underconstruction:
Viva Tower:21 floors
PSPF Tower: 24 floors
Uhuru Heights: 25 floors
Umoja wa Vijana: 20+25 floors
Millenium Tower: 27 floors & many more under 20 floors

Major Towers Proposed:
Mwalimu Nyerere Towers: 15+20 floors
Rita Tower:24 floors
Mzizima Towers: 27 floors
PSPF Commercial Towers:32+32 floors
Ilala Municipal Tower:40 floors
Mchikichini Towers: 35+35+50 floors

Interesting developments coming up.. Thanx tanzan

Has construction started?

Its beyond my comprehension to see the Tanzanians building a 26floor complex in Kenya whereas they dont have any building reaching that height in their own country. They need to get their priorities straight.:ohno:

There's more demand in Nairobi (most of this complex will be leased), so the project is more economically viable there than in TZ, not that TZ can't support a taller office building but it's easier to justify in Nairobi.

Has construction started?

My sources haven't revealed anything new; guess its still bureacracy at work and attention to details phase.

Since this Chancery is a Tanzanian diplomatic tool, I believe they will give priorities for lease to Tanzanian government or private concerns. I read some interesting discussions in the popular Tanzanian discussion forum; JamiiForums.com about this projects which has been on cards since last year, one person argued that the N.S.S.F(Tz) had previously acquired a plot somewhere in Dar and was yet to develop it. The blogger wondered why NSSF is investing huge amount of capital to construct a 26 storey prime chancery in Nairobi, Kenya (an unstable foreign country) yet Tanzania as a whole did not even have a tower of that magnitude!


I don´t believe that Kenya is an "unstable foreign country". At least not to teh Tanzanians, surely. We are together in the EAC, for crying out loud.

As for the wisodm of building a 26 storey chancery, I don´t see it too. But they might have a good reason, haha.

I just read on local newspaper that a consultancy company just won a tender for topographical survey for the construction of Tanzania House.

So guys...this thing is on and just be patient & let the process take its course:cheers:

interesting design, how is the constructino going?

I just read on local newspaper that a consultancy company just won a tender for topographical survey for the construction of Tanzania House.

So guys...this thing is on and just be patient & let the process take its course:cheers:

I hear its going to come up near the Rahimtullah tower...If that's true, this one will dominate upperhill's skyline for sure. I'll be patient as usual for things to start. :)

I can't wait for this. In the future upperhill (and Westlands) might no longer be residential areas. I think these areas will be zoned for businesses only.

I cant fault NSSF Tanzania for being visionary

and you cant blame them for making cross border investments

Its Globalisation so movement of money and investments is part of it

I don´t believe that Kenya is an "unstable foreign country". At least not to teh Tanzanians, surely. We are together in the EAC, for crying out loud.

As for the wisodm of building a 26 storey chancery, I don´t see it too. But they might have a good reason, haha.

^^to call Kenya a unstable country is an insult. we had a unfortunate situation in 2008, but we have a more stable democracy than Tz. They have a false multi-partyism which is actually a one party dictatorship in disguise, the opposition don't stand a chance there really.:ohno:

BELO PROJETO EM NAIROBI'

^^to call Kenya a unstable country is an insult. we had a unfortunate situation in 2008, but we have a more stable democracy than Tz. They have a false multi-partyism which is actually a one party dictatorship in disguise, the opposition don't stand a chance there really.:ohno:

Well that is just an isolated opinion expressed by someone on the internet, it does in no way reflect the overall view of TZdians regarding Kenya.

^^to call Kenya a unstable country is an insult. we had a unfortunate situation in 2008, but we have a more stable democracy than Tz.

humm! really!

They have a false multi-partyism which is actually a one party dictatorship in disguise, the opposition don't stand a chance there really.:ohno:

Check your facts properly...Sikiliza Maasai...you are making wild statement off from nowhere.

We have opposition members of parliament, opposition councilors, opposition mayors.

Check your facts properly...Sikiliza Maasai...you are making wild statement off from nowhere.

We have opposition members of parliament, opposition councilors, opposition mayors.

wacha hasira tanzan. i didn't say that yu don't have opposition parties, but if i may ask you, what are the chances of tanzanian opposition party producing a president? NIL. what are the chances of the tanzanian opposition producing the majority of MPs in TZ? nil! that is what i meant by 'one party dictatorship' in disguise. CCM makes sure the opposition remains very very weak.
I don't wish to continue this argument. keep the peace.

wacha hasira tanzan. i didn't say that yu don't have opposition parties, but if i may ask you, what are the chances of tanzanian opposition party producing a president? NIL. what are the chances of the tanzanian opposition producing the majority of MPs in TZ? nil! that is what i meant by 'one party dictatorship' in disguise. CCM makes sure the opposition remains very very weak.
I don't wish to continue this argument. keep the peace.

OK...FYI...Zanzibar has an opposition Vice President. Opposition are gaining more seats in parliament each election.Actually CCM lost about 60 seats this past elections. You are right CCM still bulldozes everyone...but there are pressures from wananchi that there shud be a free National Electoral Commission.

So Yes, untill there is independent NEC...the opposition will have a chance to get a majority.

Peace Out!:)

I was not impressed by this project. Putting up 26 floors in a foreign unfriendly country???? From the way I know Kenyans, this will turn in an object of harrasment whenever there is a diplomatic row between Tz & KE.

I was not impressed by this project. Putting up 26 floors in a foreign unfriendly country???? From the way I know Kenyans, this will turn in an object of harrasment whenever there is a diplomatic row between Tz & KE.

Maybe because Kenya built a huge and extravagant embassy in Tanzania? You are not painting a very good picture of Tanzania, which would be bad because Kenya invests heavily in Tanzania. (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=949856) Kenyans view Tanzania with admiration for your sense of nationalism and resolve, so most Kenyans think of or would like to have Tanzania as a friendly country which is one of the reasons Kenyan businessmen and enterprises spend so much money on Tanzania when Kenya itself is in need of investment. I hope the majority of Tanzanians don't view Kenya as "unfriendly" since Kenyans are just beginning to invest in Tanzania and if they are met with hostility, then we could avoid problems by just leaving Tanzania alone and focusing on our own country.

I was not impressed by this project. Putting up 26 floors in a foreign unfriendly country???? From the way I know Kenyans, this will turn in an object of harrasment whenever there is a diplomatic row between Tz & KE.

Are you serious?how old are you?you need to grow up.Kenya is an unfriendly country? You are the people who are hindering the progress of the EAC.You do not realize that Kenya,Uganda,Tanzania and the other EAC countries can only grow faster if we remove trade barriers between us.Stop sowing the seeds of hate.

this sounds like a bunch of 12 year olds arguing.

you guys need to cool it. all of you

I find it funny that an EAC citizen can call Kenya an unfriendly foreign country. Am I the only person who feels completely at home in almost all the EAC states? (TZ, UG, Rwanda...) , Burundi to a lesser extent cause they are relatively new into the union.

there you go...

http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae190/tanzan_2010/SANY2147.jpg

The name of the building will change to Umoja House symbolizing Tanzania and Kenya's unity:)
Any news and progress?This is an iconic building that will stand out from the rest at Upper Hill. I guess most of the floors would be leased out as there is a high demand for office space in that area.

Maybe because Kenya built a huge and extravagant embassy in Tanzania? You are not painting a very good picture of Tanzania, which would be bad because Kenya invests heavily in Tanzania. (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=949856) Kenyans view Tanzania with admiration for your sense of nationalism and resolve, so most Kenyans think of or would like to have Tanzania as a friendly country which is one of the reasons Kenyan businessmen and enterprises spend so much money on Tanzania when Kenya itself is in need of investment. I hope the majority of Tanzanians don't view Kenya as "unfriendly" since Kenyans are just beginning to invest in Tanzania and if they are met with hostility, then we could avoid problems by just leaving Tanzania alone and focusing on our own country.

I have worked in a number of the so called "Kenyan companies" in Dar only to find out that they are multinationals which had their first footing in EA during the Kenyatta and Moi era when Tanzania had yet to open up her market and Uganda was still succumbing to internal governance issues arising from the Idi Amin era. These companies are domiciled outside EA but after Tz and UG opened up, they extended their presence from the Nairobi residence. The major shareholders in the "Kenyan companies" are mostly Non East Africans and you would find a few minority Kenyan shareholder - directors owning shares they acquired as employee benefits (share based payments) and who are also included in the Board in order to comply with the requirements of various laws in Kenya.They are branded "Kenyan" by defensive job seekers who seek to justify free pass into the Tz job market because the Tz market is not as saturated as the Kenyan one. These companies are famous for high employee turnovers, low pay and are mostly warehouses and insurance firms. The global economy is not short of hungry investors and in the event "Kenyan" companies close doors in Tz, many South African, local and Chinese companies will increase their market share to fill the small vacuum.

I do not hate any East Africans but I am simply putting it in plain terms. I am also being driven by a strong sense of nationalism and resolve in writing this. Kenyans should not be tempted to think that Tanzanians who appear more calm in mannerisms than them are dull. It is simply an aspect of our "national personality". Before you claim being the hated ones, you would better re-examine the way you as a people handle other peoples' self esteems especially in our region. To every action there is an equal and opposite reaction! Very soon Uganda with her abundant oil resources will probably be the economic boss in EA and so can Tanzania. The Kenyan arrogance will be laid to rest soon!

I have worked in a number of the so called "Kenyan companies" in Dar only to find out that they are multinationals which had their first footing in EA during the Kenyatta and Moi era when Tanzania had yet to open up her market and Uganda was still succumbing to internal governance issues arising from the Idi Amin era. These companies are domiciled outside EA but after Tz and UG opened up, they extended their presence from the Nairobi residence. The major shareholders in the "Kenyan companies" are mostly Non East Africans and you would find a few minority Kenyan shareholder - directors owning shares they acquired as employee benefits (share based payments) and who are also included in the Board in order to comply with the requirements of various laws in Kenya.They are branded "Kenyan" by defensive job seekers who seek to justify free pass into the Tz job market because the Tz market is not as saturated as the Kenyan one. These companies are famous for high employee turnovers, low pay and are mostly warehouses and insurance firms. The global economy is not short of hungry investors and in the event "Kenyan" companies close doors in Tz, many South African, local and Chinese companies will increase their market share to fill the small vacuum.

I do not hate any East Africans but I am simply putting it in plain terms. I am also being driven by a strong sense of nationalism and resolve in writing this. Kenyans should not be tempted to think that Tanzanians who appear more calm in mannerisms than them are dull. It is simply an aspect of our "national personality". Before you claim being the hated ones, you would better re-examine the way you as a people handle other peoples' self esteems especially in our region. To every action there is an equal and opposite reaction! Very soon Uganda with her abundant oil resources will probably be the economic boss in EA and so can Tanzania. The Kenyan arrogance will be laid to rest soon!


What is this really about? This is uncalled for, really!! So for how long will you go on like this? And who is it helping? You, the people you direct it at or none? This is a waste of this forum, really.How does this contribute to the topic of this thread? Please post respectful messages and those that can advance the role of this thread.Whoever is boss, I guess it boils to individual satisfaction.There are very unhappy and poor people in the USA, Britain, Japan, China, etc.So let the country not get into ones mind, even in the name of nationalism.Lets post messages which reflect tolerance,maturity and morality, ladies and gentlemen!! We are all one people so let not talk like this about each other's country.Nobody likes to be poor and those who are rich should not look down upon the poor or deprived.We all have human dignity...

What is this really about? This is uncalled for, really!! So for how long will you go on like this? And who is it helping? You, the people you direct it at or none? This is a waste of this forum, really.How does this contribute to the topic of this thread? Please post respectful messages and those that can advance the role of this thread.Whoever is boss, I guess it boils to individual satisfaction.There are very unhappy and poor people in the USA, Britain, Japan, China, etc.So let the country not get into ones mind, even in the name of nationalism.Lets post messages which reflect tolerance,maturity and morality, ladies and gentlemen!! We are all one people so let not talk like this about each other's country.Nobody likes to be poor and those who are rich should not look down upon the poor or deprived.We all have human dignity...

Guys,is there any other big (25 and above) on going/UC project in Nairobi apart from this Tanzania House?...

Guys,is there any other big (25 and above) on going/UC project in Nairobi apart from this Tanzania House?...

Not much, esp in the NBO-CBD. Here's my rough count for both Proposed and U/C - I will lower my cap to 20 +.

CBD : Proposed

CBD | Delta Hotel | 25 fl - Delayed
Hazina Trade Centre (NSSF) | 38 fl - Tendered


Westlands : Proposed

WESTLANDS | Le'Mac | 24 fl - Proposed


Upperhill : Proposed & U/C

UPPER HILL | Delta Office Centre II | 21 fl - Under Construction
UPPER HILL | Tanzanian Embassy | 26 fl - Tendered
UPPER HILL | Government Skyscraper | 60 fl - Proposed
UPPER HILL | UAP Park Towers | 28 fl - Proposed . U/C
UPPER HILL | KCB Plaza | 21 fl - U/C

Concentrated Developments & Others

Nairobi Metropolitan Region Projects | Vision 2030 (Long Term Project)
WESTLANDS | Bharti Airtel Africa Headquarters (Unsubstantiated)| $150million - Proposed

UPPER HILL | UAP Park Towers | 24 fl - U/C
UPPER HILL | KCB Plaza | 21 fl - U/C[/LIST]



i would appreciate if anyone can give us up to date information on those two projects. especially UAP Park Towers, i haven't heard much of the project lately

Not much, esp in the NBO-CBD. Here's my rough count for both Proposed and U/C - I will lower my cap to 20 +.

CBD : Proposed

CBD | Delta Hotel | 25 fl - Delayed
Hazina Trade Centre (NSSF) | 38 fl - Tendered


Westlands : Proposed

WESTLANDS | Le'Mac | 24 fl - Proposed


Upperhill : Proposed & U/C

UPPER HILL | Delta Office Centre II | 21 fl - Under Construction
UPPER HILL | Tanzanian Embassy | 26 fl - Tendered
UPPER HILL | Government Skyscraper | 60 fl - Proposed
UPPER HILL | UAP Park Towers | 28 fl - Proposed . U/C
UPPER HILL | KCB Plaza | 21 fl - U/C

Concentrated Developments & Others

Nairobi Metropolitan Region Projects | Vision 2030 (Long Term Project)
WESTLANDS | Bharti Airtel Africa Headquarters (Unsubstantiated)| $150million - Proposed


Quite impressive...^^

Not much, esp in the NBO-CBD. Here's my rough count for both Proposed and U/C - I will lower my cap to 20 +.

CBD : Proposed

CBD | Delta Hotel | 25 fl - Delayed
Hazina Trade Centre (NSSF) | 38 fl - Tendered


Westlands : Proposed

WESTLANDS | Le'Mac | 24 fl - Proposed


Upperhill : Proposed & U/C

UPPER HILL | Delta Office Centre II | 21 fl - Under Construction
UPPER HILL | Tanzanian Embassy | 26 fl - Tendered
UPPER HILL | Government Skyscraper | 60 fl - Proposed
UPPER HILL | UAP Park Towers | 28 fl - Proposed . U/C
UPPER HILL | KCB Plaza | 21 fl - U/C

Concentrated Developments & Others

Nairobi Metropolitan Region Projects | Vision 2030 (Long Term Project)
WESTLANDS | Bharti Airtel Africa Headquarters (Unsubstantiated)| $150million - Proposed


thanks for the info...I read on Tz newspaper that NSSF will go for Joint Venture on the embassy project. It didn't mention the partner but it is highly possible that nssf will be minority partner.Award notification for construction will be after 2 months.

How can an embassy have over 26 floors? Embassies are usually lowrise buildings. Are there any other skyscraper embassies anywhere in the world?

Nigeria House (Consulate) (http://newshopper.sulekha.com/nigeria-unpaid-taxes_photo_1118976.htm)

ModernAfrica from your comment, it's clear who's being hateful here. If we are going to succeed in creating the East African Republic then we need put aside our differences. By the way, are you bothered by the fact that Kenya is East Africa's economic hub? Just like Malaika I feel at home in UG, TZ and Rwanda, generally in East Africa so can we just stop already?

Let us talk buildings guys! Cheers!

Tanzania needs not to spend that amount of money to build some embassy in Kenya....26 floors...a complete waste of money and construction materials. Tanzania needs to focus on its issues and FIX THEM FIRST. Like our energy crisis...our power rationing...our roads. Goodness, wake up people! But then again, I am just some young radical who doesn't understand. Well, when these old mafisadi fools drive our countries into a never before seen debt, I guess that is when we will wake up.

And by the way, EAC at this moment is not a wise thing for Tanzania to get itself into. This federation will not work out for the good of the Tanzanian people. If anything, everyone else will benefit while Tanzanians continue to stay down. It is no secret that foreign companies are always looking for new ways to extract all our precious resources. If our politicians had the least of common sense, they would (and should) vote against the proposed East African Federation. At least for now!

By the way, are you bothered by the fact that Kenya is East Africa's economic hub? Just like Malaika I feel at home in UG, TZ and Rwanda, generally in East Africa so can we just stop already?

In the heat of an arguement it is what you portray of others that defines you. It doesnt matter that it maybe a fact but how would it feel if you were seated next to Bill Gates and he starts yapping out on how immensely blessed brainwise he is? would you not start thinking he is taking you for a moron?
Back to the proposed building,am quite stunned that N.S.S.F has all that money for those project bearing in mind that back in tz they are proposing to build not one,two or ten but countless no of them.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1135361
If they have been holding all this money they should be prosecuted for failing to massively contribute to tanzanias reinassance.

In the heat of an arguement it is what you portray of others that defines you. It doesnt matter that it maybe a fact but how would it feel if you were seated next to Bill Gates and he starts yapping out on how immensely blessed brainwise he is? would you not start thinking he is taking you for a moron?
Back to the proposed building,am quite stunned that N.S.S.F has all that money for those project bearing in mind that back in tz they are proposing to build not one,two or ten but countless no of them.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1135361
If they have been holding all this money they should be prosecuted for failing to massively contribute to tanzanias reinassance. Yeah depending on whatever you might have said to Bill gates, you might have been trying to make him look dumb and stupid or said something to make him feel he doesn't deserve his wealth that made him yap, we are all human, peace. The building looks nice I hope it will come up.

Yeah depending on whatever you might have said to Bill gates, you might have been trying to make him look dumb and stupid or said something to make him feel he doesn't deserve his wealth that made him yap, we are all human, peace. The building looks nice I hope it will come up.

It will get built eventually as I saw on the newspaper about NSSF's 2011-2012 procurement plans. It will be a joint venture project with NSSF being minor investor possibly 33%...I don't know exactly on the figure but this is why it took a long time to look for a majority partner.

thanks for the info...I read on Tz newspaper that NSSF will go for Joint Venture on the embassy project. It didn't mention the partner but it is highly possible that nssf will be minority partner.Award notification for construction will be after 2 months.

We will be keenly waiting for those updates..^^

Kam on guys..........hadi saa hii hakuna msee ameclear ile land ya embassy ya Tz saa kutaendaje

Kam on guys..........hadi saa hii hakuna msee ameclear ile land ya embassy ya Tz saa kutaendaje

Patience. Lol.

To be part of the same complex:

Tanzania to build $40m mall in Nairobi
East African (http://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/business/Tanzania+to+build++40m+mall+in+Nairobi+/-/2560/1320572/-/item/1/-/uh4m6hz/-/index.html)
5 February 2012
Tanzania’s National Social Security Fund is keen to make further inroads into East Africa’s real estate sector with its planned construction of a commercial building in Nairobi, the Kenyan capital.

The complex, to be built at the junction of Mara and Hill roads in the upmarket Upper Hill area of the Kenyan capital, will house the Tanzanian Chancery and a shopping mall. The building will be a one-stop centre for the country’s affairs in Nairobi.

Apart from Tanzanian diplomats, a large chunk of the complex will be reserved for business offices.

The initial construction cost of the 26-storey embassy, to be named Umoja House, is estimated at $40 million and will be managed by the government and NSSF.

The state, whose equity in the project includes the ownership of plot number 209/3678 in Upper Hill, will contribute 20 per cent of the project’s share capital while NSSF will foot the remaining 80 per cent.

Minister for Foreign Affairs and International Co-operation Bernard Membe confirmed to The EastAfrican that construction work will kick off in July.

Mr Membe said the commercial building in Nairobi will be used to generate income to cater for other diplomatic missions in Africa, in a bid to reduce operational costs.

“It is expensive to run a mission abroad and so we want to set up a number of investment centres in strategic areas to generate revenue to meet the costs of our diplomatic missions around the globe,” he said.

Besides the Nairobi centre, the state plans to build a $28 million complex in London.

Tanzania already owns 17 such premises out of 32 foreign missions worldwide.

The first investment centres were set up in Washington DC and New York a few years ago.

“This mega project will set a precedent for other similar projects in Kigali, Rwanda and the wider region,” said Yacoub Kidula, NSSF director of planning, investments and projects.

NSSF’s director general Dr Ramadhani Dau says that plans are underway to replicate other construction projects at Tanzania’s embassies in Kigali, Maputo in Mozambique, Abuja in Nigeria and Kinshasa in the DRC.

The NSSF pension bill currently stands at nearly $76 million per annum, with the highest paid pensioner getting $6,565 per month and the lowest getting $50.
The current number of NSSF pensioners stands at 6,049, according to NSSF’s director of operations Crescentius Magori.

NSSF’s investment policy demands that 75 per cent of operational income go to investments while 25 per cent is used to pay member’s benefits and administration costs.

NSSF invested $130 million to construct Kigamboni Bridge, a tourist hotel in Mwanza with a capacity of 122 rooms, two office complexes in Arusha and residential quarters for police in various part of the country.

“Due to growing pension demands and to be able to enhance our member’s benefits we must invest, especially in real estate,” said Mr Kidula.

Originally, construction was scheduled to kick off in September 2010 and expected to be completed by March 2012 before being formally handed over in October 2012.


So I gather:

- Cost: $40 million
- Construction start: July 2012

To be part of the same complex:

Tanzania to build $40m mall in Nairobi
East African (http://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/business/Tanzania+to+build++40m+mall+in+Nairobi+/-/2560/1320572/-/item/1/-/uh4m6hz/-/index.html)
5 February 2012



So I gather:

- Cost: $40 million
- Construction start: July 2012

Cant wait for construction to start. I just wish they wont delay it again

So where is the Tanzanian Emabssy at now did they begin a ground breaking???

We are now in August, any news or did they delay again?

I searched and searched but i saw none of this project anywhere in upperhill

So what do the 2 towers really symbolize? A chart showing the GDP per capita in Kenya (big tower) and Tanzania (short tower)? ;)

(The Tanzanians in this forum are gonna kill me now! :lol:)

This will take like 50 years before it even begins to be constructed,, just sell the land away and let a hotel put up a 30flr tower...

Let them tell us its dead and give me that land i can then pray for a bank loan and build a 70 flr

Let them tell us its dead and give me that land i can then pray for a bank loan and build a 70 flr

Love or hate them, they are building taller than us these days.

We love them and once we stop fighting and next year's election we will be on the driver's seat again

Love or hate them, they are building taller than us these days.

Well they need such buildings which is great for Dar, But Nairobi doesn't see this as competition, We are already have several projects of high value coming in the next few years Upperhill and Westie will propel us upwards( Also i got info that the One Nairobi might begin construction in 2014 or 15)

If 2013 is not pangas that one nairobi might start soonest and still hope demand makes it remain 70flr...i only hoped elections were held this year so we could move on quick...these MPs

If 2013 is not pangas that one nairobi might start soonest and still hope demand makes it remain 70flr...i only hoped elections were held this year so we could move on quick...these MPs

+1 and we also vote for a smart, attentive leader, who will be a fresh face in the kenya, africa, and the world( *clears throat* Peter Kenneth) The Shrunk the initial design to about 55floors because the 70floors government saw as danger to planes.. which is now still in the books, but it will be coming( where will it be build in upperhill??)

Well they need such buildings which is great for Dar, But Nairobi doesn't see this as competition, We are already have several projects of high value coming in the next few years Upperhill and Westie will propel us upwards( Also i got info that the One Nairobi might begin construction in 2014 or 15)

Are you sure? that's great news

+1 and we also vote for a smart, attentive leader, who will be a fresh face in the kenya, africa, and the world( *clears throat* Peter Kenneth) The Shrunk the initial design to about 55floors because the 70floors government saw as danger to planes.. which is now still in the books, but it will be coming( where will it be build in upperhill??)

Which planes? Or do kenyans fly by their own will? Jkia and wilson flight paths are nowhere in upper so no need to shrink the tower. I dream that one day nairobi will compete with the world, why deny it now when the dream starts

Are you sure? that's great news

Kinda? my cousin told me the staff at the One office in nairobi want a 2014 or 2015 launch, Which Kenya must be on a new leaf and growing again

Which planes? Or do kenyans fly by their own will? Jkia and wilson flight paths are nowhere in upper so no need to shrink the tower. I dream that one day nairobi will compete with the world, why deny it now when the dream starts

JKIA planes bro, They didnt want to risk it so they were told to reduce it, anyway even at 55floors its still pretty massive which will be the tallest thing in kenya and east africa penetrating the night sky like a massive symbol of hope for the many kenyans and east africans. imagine driving on Thika Road, Mombasa Road, Nakuru highway etc and before you enter the city you see this massive building in the distant glowing and reeling you in to this great city....

Kinda? my cousin told me the staff at the One office in nairobi want a 2014 or 2015 launch, Which Kenya must be on a new leaf and growing again

The One Nairobi should be constructed downtown. It'd look better there and fit in nicely with the already sizable CBD skyline.

Maybe they are afraid of a repeat of 911.We may not have money to rebuild it,if something were to happen like 911.They might also be afraid that our intelligence is not as good as the States yet,and don't want to take a chance.What with what's going on next door.

Maybe they are afraid of a repeat of 911.We may not have money to rebuild it,if something were to happen like 911.They might also be afraid that our intelligence is not as good as the States yet,and don't want to take a chance.What with what's going on next door.

That will never happen.

Maybe they are afraid of a repeat of 911.We may not have money to rebuild it,if something were to happen like 911.They might also be afraid that our intelligence is not as good as the States yet,and don't want to take a chance.What with what's going on next door.

Exactly, and the building would be insured but it would have negative impacts on kenya. But no planes are supposed to fly near the city and if a plane broke this protocol Moi airbase would send fighters into the sky to help changed the planes course or shoot it down...


The One Nairobi should be constructed downtown. It'd look better there and fit in nicely with the already sizable CBD skyline.

The cost would be to much, n upperhill is a great area since nice and high and has splendid views of nairobi

Such a massive tower has to have bright lights atop it for pilots to see it at night...and jkia planes rarely pass above the CBD area expect one or two so planes should not be the issue so take it back to 70

Exactly, and the building would be insured but it would have negative impacts on kenya. But no planes are supposed to fly near the city and if a plane broke this protocol Moi airbase would send fighters into the sky to help changed the planes course or shoot it down...

Why and who with the capability would try to fly a plane into a building in Nairobi? One that isn't even symbolic at that. You guys sound like those 9/11 conspiracist believers - full of bologna.:tongue2:

The cost would be to much, n upperhill is a great area since nice and high and has splendid views of nairobi
Could easily be recuperated after selling each available condo. We're not talking about Hong Kong land prices here.

Such a massive tower has to have bright lights atop it for pilots to see it at night...and jkia planes rarely pass above the CBD area expect one or two so planes should not be the issue so take it back to 70

Yes they would have airplane beacons so planes can avoid flying near the tower, but those were the concerns of government not mine and the tower was reduced in height to address those concerns.. Can nairobi even facilitate a 70floor tower??

Why and who with the capability would try to fly a plane into a building in Nairobi? One that isn't even symbolic at that. You guys sound like those 9/11 conspiracist believers - full of bologna.:tongue2:


Could easily be recuperated after selling each available condo. We're not talking about Hong Kong land prices here.

One of the most ignorant comments i have ever heard, Kenya has been the epicenter of major terrorist attacks in east africa. And it would be major props for a terrorist to hijack a plane and crash it into one of our buildings causing death and damage while their targets would be not be kenyans but international residents. The military airbase in the city started drills on such scenario's before September 11 and we have clear protocols that if planes enter nairobi airspace they have to follow a certain flight path and if they break it they will be shot down if pilots don't respond...

No way for it work in the CBD its to unattractive at the moment and also very expensive, better to build it in upper-hill where its greener and not as expensive as the CBD plus major views of nairobi

One of the most ignorant comments i have ever heard, Kenya has been the epicenter of major terrorist attacks in east africa. And it would be major props for a terrorist to hijack a plane and crash it into one of our buildings causing death and damage while their targets would be not be kenyans but international residents. The military airbase in the city started drills on such scenario's before September 11 and we have clear protocols that if planes enter nairobi airspace they have to follow a certain flight path and if they break it they will be shot down if pilots don't respond...

Adama Kenya is not some special case when it comes to terrorism threats. Other nations ranging from the U.S., UK, Spain, India, Nigeria and so on have seen terrorist attacks. Other the the U.S. no other nation has seen a 9/11 ordeal, though the closet being the London bombings, and I doubt ever will due to intensive security checks in airports today.

Al-Shabab is not Al-Qaeda and is not nearly as powerful. It took Al-Qaeda years and years of preparation and training to pull of 9/11 and you expect me to believe some small, dying terrorist organization can pull off what they did in Kenya?:lol:

What is so significant about a residential tower? The WTC had significance behind it symbolizing American economic might in one of the world's most influential cities. Nothing in Nairobi compares or ever will, and like I said it will never happen. They'd have a better chance just detonating a bomb downtown.

Seriously these "what ifs" are just retarded.

No way for it work in the CBD its to unattractive at the moment and also very expensive, better to build it in upper-hill where its greener and not as expensive as the CBD plus major views of Nairobi
At the moment, hopefully things change for the better in the future. Is Upper Hill walkable?

70flr is merely 2 times tower in height maybe 4 in volume so nairobi can handle it

Adama Kenya is not some special case when it comes to terrorism threats. Other nations ranging from the U.S., UK, Spain, India, Nigeria and so on have seen terrorist attacks. Other the the U.S. no other nation has seen a 9/11 ordeal, though the closet being the London bombings, and I doubt ever will due to intensive security checks in airports today.

Al-Shabab is not Al-Qaeda and is not nearly as powerful. It took Al-Qaeda years and years of preparation and training to pull of 9/11 and you expect me to believe some small, dying terrorist organization can pull off what they did in Kenya?:lol:

What is so significant about a residential tower? The WTC had significance behind it symbolizing American economic might in one of the world's most influential cities. Nothing in Nairobi compares or ever will, and like I said it will never happen. They'd have a better chance just detonating a bomb downtown.

Seriously these "what ifs" are just retarded.

At the moment, hopefully things change for the better in the future. Is Upper Hill walkable?

Now you have to be special to be involved in terrorist attacks?? What are they teaching you in school?? First terrorist attacks that ever happened in kenya were in 1975 when bombs exploded in the nairobi CBD killing around 30 people, then followed then 5 years later the Norfolk hotel bombing happened destroying the hotel and killing 20 people and injuring 80 others and was claimed by an Arab organization protesting kenya of letting the Israeli use our airspace, Followed by the 1998 embassy bombings were 223 people lost their lives and 4,000 injured and was claimed by Al Qaeda etc... Now are you telling me Alshabab was involved in these attacks or shouldn't care to take precaution because it may never happen? like they saying goes never say never and we take these things seriously. This year alone we saw Iranian men carrying several pounds RDX enough to level several buildings in the CBD and kill hundreds of people are we not supposed to take such threats seriously??? The One is a mixed Development with Banks on the bottom floors Hotel on the middle floors and expensive apartments at the top all a good target for terrorist since it will be the biggest shiniest thing in the east african skies, would you feel better if i said the Times Tower which is the Tax mans office. I thought wall street was America's economic might not the WTC which just hosted a lot of foreign companies. And made it such a shiny target for terrorists..

Upperhill is just a five or ten minute walk from the center of the CBD

70flr is merely 2 times tower in height maybe 4 in volume so nairobi can handle it

Maybe in the Future bro but it ain't happening for the The One

Adama Kenya is not some special case when it comes to terrorism threats. Other nations ranging from the U.S., UK, Spain, India, Nigeria and so on have seen terrorist attacks. Other the the U.S. no other nation has seen a 9/11 ordeal, though the closet being the London bombings, and I doubt ever will due to intensive security checks in airports today.

Al-Shabab is not Al-Qaeda and is not nearly as powerful. It took Al-Qaeda years and years of preparation and training to pull of 9/11 and you expect me to believe some small, dying terrorist organization can pull off what they did in Kenya?:lol:

What is so significant about a residential tower? The WTC had significance behind it symbolizing American economic might in one of the world's most influential cities. Nothing in Nairobi compares or ever will, and like I said it will never happen. They'd have a better chance just detonating a bomb downtown.

Seriously these "what ifs" are just retarded.

At the moment, hopefully things change for the better in the future. Is Upper Hill walkable?

Al-Shabab has made explicit threats against towers in Nairobi, so IMO you are too dismissive of the threat. It's not easy or likely, but the possibility is certainly there.

Yes, Upper Hill is walkable. There should be more pedestrian infrastructure, but it is walkably pleasant.

Now you have to be special to be involved in terrorist attacks?? What are they teaching you in school?? First terrorist attacks that ever happened in kenya were in 1975 when bombs exploded in the nairobi CBD killing around 30 people, then followed then 5 years later the Norfolk hotel bombing happened destroying the hotel and killing 20 people and injuring 80 others and was claimed by an Arab organization protesting kenya of letting the Israeli use our airspace, Followed by the 1998 embassy bombings were 223 people lost their lives and 4,000 injured and was claimed by Al Qaeda etc... Now are you telling me Alshabab was involved in these attacks or shouldn't care to take precaution because it may never happen? like they saying goes never say never and we take these things seriously. This year alone we saw Iranian men carrying several pounds RDX enough to level several buildings in the CBD and kill hundreds of people are we not supposed to take such threats seriously??? The One is a mixed Development with Banks on the bottom floors Hotel on the middle floors and expensive apartments at the top all a good target for terrorist since it will be the biggest shiniest thing in the east african skies, would you feel better if i said the Times Tower which is the Tax mans office. I thought wall street was America's economic might not the WTC which just hosted a lot of foreign companies. And made it such a shiny target for terrorists..

Upperhill is just a five or ten minute walk from the center of the CBD

You don't have to be special, but my point still remained. I doubt anything, or should I say one, will ever try to bring down The One. Using that as justification as to why it'd not be built is also dumb (not saying you're guilty of this just saying).

Hell if you guys are so concerned about a tower being demolished then I guess Nairobi should never construct a single skyscraper.:|

The One wont be forever alone. Nairobi will have many more skyscrapers, ad other East African cities will as well. And they'll all be fine.

Al-Shabab has made explicit threats against towers in Nairobi, so IMO you are too dismissive of the threat. It's not easy or likely, but the possibility is certainly there.

Yes, Upper Hill is walkable. There should be more pedestrian infrastructure, but it is walkably pleasant.

Yes and do they have the resources? Anyone can threaten. Action speaks not words. Amd I'm sure the Shabab will be nearing its death bed in the coming years. Thus threat minimized if not destroyed.

Now you have to be special to be involved in terrorist attacks?? What are they teaching you in school?? First terrorist attacks that ever happened in kenya were in 1975 when bombs exploded in the nairobi CBD killing around 30 people, then followed then 5 years later the Norfolk hotel bombing happened destroying the hotel and killing 20 people and injuring 80 others and was claimed by an Arab organization protesting kenya of letting the Israeli use our airspace, Followed by the 1998 embassy bombings were 223 people lost their lives and 4,000 injured and was claimed by Al Qaeda etc... Now are you telling me Alshabab was involved in these attacks or shouldn't care to take precaution because it may never happen? like they saying goes never say never and we take these things seriously. This year alone we saw Iranian men carrying several pounds RDX enough to level several buildings in the CBD and kill hundreds of people are we not supposed to take such threats seriously??? The One is a mixed Development with Banks on the bottom floors Hotel on the middle floors and expensive apartments at the top all a good target for terrorist since it will be the biggest shiniest thing in the east african skies, would you feel better if i said the Times Tower which is the Tax mans office. I thought wall street was America's economic might not the WTC which just hosted a lot of foreign companies. And made it such a shiny target for terrorists..

Upperhill is just a five or ten minute walk from the center of the CBD
No, the WTC towers were the tallest buildings in NYC and the country at the time. They were the world's tallest when first completed. They appeared in pop culture and so on. A symbol/landmrk of NYC, our financial heart.

You don't have to be special, but my point still remained. I doubt anything, or should I say one, will ever try to bring down The One. Using that as justification as to why it'd not be built is also dumb (not saying you're guilty of this just saying).

Hell if you guys are so concerned about a tower being demolished then I guess Nairobi should never construct a single skyscraper.:|

The One wont be forever alone. Nairobi will have many more skyscrapers, ad other East African cities will as well. And they'll all be fine.

So does mine The One being the tallest skyscraper in East Africa would be fair game to any fanatic terrorist. Nobody said the Tower will not be built but we take all precautions seriously.. That is why we have Anti-terror police, Military base in the confines of the city to handle all threats that is thrown at us. Terrorists have never damaged and never will stop the spirit of the Kenyan people every-time they attacked us we have come back stronger than ever.

So does mine The One being the tallest skyscraper in East Africa would be fair game to any fanatic terrorist. Nobody said the Tower will not be built but we take all precautions seriously.. That is why we have Anti-terror police, Military base in the confines of the city to handle all threats that is thrown at us. Terrorists have never damaged and never will stop the spirit of the Kenyan people every-time they attacked us we have come back stronger than ever.

Which makes this entire conversation null. The city is, or should be, prepared for any threat posed.

Which makes this entire conversation null. The city is, or should be, prepared for any threat posed.

I already said we are prepared for all threats, the other day we caught Somali suicide bombers trying to detonate a car bombs and suicide vests in the CBD... We are always on high alert

No, the WTC towers were the tallest buildings in NYC and the country at the time. They were the world's tallest when first completed. They appeared in pop culture and so on. A symbol/landmrk of NYC, our financial heart.

So when they went down did it cripple america?? No, because they were building's which are replaceable but the lives lost are the reason why remember that day...

So what do the 2 towers really symbolize? A chart showing the GDP per capita in Kenya (big tower) and Tanzania (short tower)? ;)(The Tanzanians in this forum are gonna kill me now! :lol:)

:lol:

So when they went down did it cripple america?? No, because they were building's which are replaceable but the lives lost are the reason why remember that day...

A mild recession and two wars followed. You don't get the point. Before the towers were attacked the thought of any outsiders causing as much damage and dismay on American soil was unheard and unthought of. The towers being destroyed showed that it was possible.

A mild recession and two wars followed. You don't get the point. Before the towers were attacked the thought of any outsiders causing as much damage and dismay on American soil was unheard and unthought of. The towers being destroyed showed that it was possible.

And its been debated that the Iraqi war was pointless no weapons of mass destruction was found. Destroyed an entire country over falsified evidence:ohno:.. America had just come out of a ColdWar and for 40years they were subliminally taught to be ready of an attack on the homeland..

Are you sure? that's great news

these excuses of flight paths are boring, flight paths...nairobi is not the only city with an airport, yet there are much taller buildings in several cities with airports. don't pull that one, it's a terrible excuse by the way. flight path is in ngong to jkia i don't another outside of that one.

these excuses of flight paths are boring, flight paths...nairobi is not the only city with an airport, yet there are much taller buildings in several cities with airports. don't pull that one, it's a terrible excuse by the way. flight path is in ngong to jkia i don't another outside of that one.

I am not the one that makes the rules that is the government they felt that the building was to tall for nairobi and they reduced it for reasons i had already mentioned. All cities in the world have a protocol on flight-paths that planes need to follow. We had seen the government demolish homes because they were in the planes flight-paths what makes you think they wouldn't reduce the height of buildings...

these excuses of flight paths are boring, flight paths...nairobi is not the only city with an airport, yet there are much taller buildings in several cities with airports. don't pull that one, it's a terrible excuse by the way. flight path is in ngong to jkia i don't another outside of that one.

Dont believe anything that is said. Upperhill is kilometres away from any flight path.

SE9 clean this thread

Anyone with info about this tower, if construction has started and its location in upperhill

I have roamed upperhill and lowerhill all over but i have seen no such project that was claim to start in july...hope its not dead

How about those towers in lowerhill??

Which ones are you refering to?

the 80million dollar office blocks in lowerhill that look like shields

No, the WTC towers were the tallest buildings in NYC and the country at the time. They were the world's tallest when first completed. They appeared in pop culture and so on. A symbol/landmrk of NYC, our financial heart.

The WTC were the tallest buildings in the US for only two years, they were surpassed by the Willis Tower (Sears Tower by then) in 1973.

I didnt see them too

Honestly I doubt if this building will ever get built

It might get built in the year 2020 and the design is ugly and will never be built in upperhill...

^^I pray to God that the Tanzanians buy some plot in Umoja if they have to built that concrete mound :lol: Infact it will go well with the neighborhood since they share a name. Upperhill should remain all glassy.

Lets not give up yet, in the location they say, i have seen fencing of a plot with iron sheets recently, i will follow up.

Keep us updated Kinyakankick

The WTC were the tallest buildings in the US for only two years, they were surpassed by the Willis Tower (Sears Tower by then) in 1973.

I know, but that doesn't change the fact they were the tallest upon completion.

The lesson i have learnt in the 2 years I have been in this forum is that, individuals who are obsessed with skyscrapers, are folks with an ego to keep. That is to say most contributors in this forum are egocentric individuals no wonder the frequent TZ - KE clashes. I beg Xusein to remove me from this forum as I don't want to belong to this lot anymore! I already bid my fellow countrymen a good bye in my home country's forum. So fellas keep your egos going!!

Okay.. Goodbye

The lesson i have learnt in the 2 years I have been in this forum is that, individuals who are obsessed with skyscrapers, are folks with an ego to keep. That is to say most contributors in this forum are egocentric individuals no wonder the frequent TZ - KE clashes. I beg Xusein to remove me from this forum as I don't want to belong to this lot anymore! I already bid my fellow countrymen a good bye in my home country's forum. So fellas keep your egos going!!

Go back to the villages where skyscrapers are just but dreams.

^^:hilarious:hilariousGo back to the villages where skyscrapers are just but dreams.

The lesson i have learnt in the 2 years I have been in this forum is that, individuals who are obsessed with skyscrapers, are folks with an ego to keep. That is to say most contributors in this forum are egocentric individuals no wonder the frequent TZ - KE clashes. I beg Xusein to remove me from this forum as I don't want to belong to this lot anymore! I already bid my fellow countrymen a good bye in my home country's forum. So fellas keep your egos going!!

You joined a Skyscrapercity forum and you are shocked that people are 'obsessed' with skyscrapers? That's like asking a pastor to throw you out of church cause you entered and didn't expect people to be religious. Tchuss.

^^:lol::lol:

^^:rofl:

You joined a Skyscrapercity forum and you are shocked that people are 'obsessed' with skyscrapers? That's like asking a pastor to throw you out of church cause you entered and didn't expect people to be religious. Tchuss.

:lol:

I finally found the site today, its just at the junction of upperhill and mara roads and next to rahimtulla. No activities on site just a board there states the land is not for sale and belongs to TZ govt. So they may just built still.

I finally found the site today, its just at the junction of upperhill and mara roads and next to rahimtulla. No activities on site just a board there states the land is not for sale and belongs to TZ govt. So they may just built still.

It has lots of opposition at home..i dont think it will, of if they ever build a tower, it wont be 26 flrs. Siasa nyingi sasa sana sana kwasababu Uchaguzi upo karibu 2015 na Kikwete atakuwa kamaliza muda kwahiyo kila mtu anataka kuonekana ni mtu wa watu..kujenga jengo refu Kenya itakuwa si tiketi nzuri kwa huyo mjengaji.

It has lots of opposition at home..i dont think it will, of if they ever build a tower, it wont be 26 flrs. Siasa nyingi sasa sana sana kwasababu Uchaguzi upo karibu 2015 na Kikwete atakuwa kamaliza muda kwahiyo kila mtu anataka kuonekana ni mtu wa watu..kujenga jengo refu Kenya itakuwa si tiketi nzuri kwa huyo mjengaji.

They should then sell the land to people who want to build 20+ towers Upperhill is growing so fast and idling land will get gobbled up. They should buy land in gigiri and set-up a small building there if they want.

We can't let such prime land go to waste

They should then sell the land to people who want to build 20+ towers Upperhill is growing so fast and idling land will get gobbled up. They should buy land in gigiri and set-up a small building there if they want.

We can't let such prime land go to waste

I agree, but looking at it more critically, you know we have other embassies there as well.

I agree, but looking at it more critically, you know we have other embassies there as well.

I know that they were there before even upper hill began developing, but the land where the building will be built is such prime position and if there are no plans to utilize the land then it should be sold off to an investor who wants to develop the area into a financial hub.

I agree with Adama. Use the land or sell it.

I know that they were there before even upper hill began developing, but the land where the building will be built is such prime position and if there are no plans to utilize the land then it should be sold off to an investor who wants to develop the area into a financial hub.

Well if laws are implemented, the land can't lie idle for so long cause govt is supposed to reposses undeveloped land no?

Well if laws are implemented, the land can't lie idle for so long cause govt is supposed to reposses undeveloped land no?

All undeveloped land, right? Not just this one alone because there is a lot of land lying idle in upper hill still!

All undeveloped land, right? Not just this one alone because there is a lot of land lying idle in upper hill still!

Yip all undeveloped land.

Well if laws are implemented, the land can't lie idle for so long cause govt is supposed to reposses undeveloped land no?

If it is owned by tz govt the kenyan govt cannot interfere without running against a certain convection.

If it is owned by tz govt the kenyan govt cannot interfere without running against a certain convection.

Oh yeah I hadn't factored in the foreign ownership angle, though I am thinking it should be a lease no?
I guess the TZ govt will start building after their next elections.