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SeeMacau June 20th, 2004, 07:48 AM A new 40 story height and 234 meter hotel will starts the construction beginning of next year.
It will becomes the tallest building in Macau after completion.
SeeMacau June 20th, 2004, 07:48 AM New casinos are cropping up, the economy is booming in double-digits and Macau is about to find out if it made a smart bet by opening the doors to Las Vegas-style casinos ready to give longtime gambling tycoon Stanley Ho a run for his money.
Ho held a monopoly on gambling for more than four decades in this former Portuguese colony, but the competition starts rolling within days as The Sands Macau opens its door, led by the man who made a splash in Las Vegas with his casino-hotel replica of Venice.
Sheldon Adelson's Venetian group hopes to open the Sands on Monday -- though one casino executive acknowledged privately that the company is consulting with feng shui experts to pick a lucky day and that May 18 may be the right time to open. Anyway, construction isn't quite finished yet on the Sands property, slated to have 250 gambling tables and 600 slot machines.
But it will soon be followed by the Waldo Hotel, a smaller property with 38 tables and 100 slot machines that launches next month and will be operated by Hong Kong-based Lui Che-woo, who shares a casino license with Adelson.
Ho holds one of Macau's three licenses that were awarded in 2002, with the other held by Las Vegas gambling mogul Steve Wynn who is hoping for reforms to the enclave's gambling laws before he commits further.
Critics say that decades as a monopolist gave Ho little incentive for innovation in a chain of casinos dominated by the flagship Lisboa, but he's scrambling now to become more competitive and predicts he'll beat out his new rivals.
Las Vegas may be known as the global gambling capital, but Ho spokeswoman Janet Wong says that in tiny Macau her boss is still the king.
"We are the only one that has its roots in Macau," Wong said. "We have more than 40 years of experience and a good network of hotels, retail and property businesses.
Some locals agree.
"Everyone knows about Mr. Ho and his Lisboa but nothing about those from Las Vegas," said Macau resident Ng Pui-peng, 42.
Ho, who is 82, recently spiffed up the Lisboa with bright neon lights reminiscent of the old Las Vegas Strip, and he's planning a 40-story expansion nearby, along with an amusement park and a culture village. Ho's operations brought in billions in revenues last year, paying Macau unprecedented taxes of $1.3 billion, a 31 percent increase from 2002.
The newcomers could be at a disadvantage because they need to start from scratch, but some customers say that may be a draw.
Ho's Lisboa is seen by many as indifferent to customers, who can be packed several deep waiting to bet at the smoke-filled tables during peak hours. Some call the ambiance downright seedy, with dozens of prostitutes prowling common areas.
"Lisboa is the worst of all," said 50-year-old Hong Kong retiree Judy Lau, an avid gambler who spoke to a reporter after dropping more than $640 in one of Ho's smaller casinos.
"In Las Vegas, you give the croupiers a tip of US$1, they will say 'thank you'; you give US$5, they will say 'thank you very much.' But here, they put up a long face -- almost like you owe them money -- when you give them HK$500 (US$64) or HK$1,000 (US$128)."
Wang Xuxia, 37, a pregnant tourist from the nearby mainland Chinese city of Shenzhen, is also ready to give the new casinos a shot.
"It's so crowded and suffocating in Lisboa," Wang said. "I will certainly check out the new attractions."
Macau is being transformed by the coming competition. The latest boom helped push Macau's economy ahead by a 15.6 percent last year, with growth hitting an astounding 21.1 percent in the fourth quarter.
Adelson's company Web site says its next stage of development will feature The Venetian Macau, a luxury resort hotel-casino similar to The Venetian in Las Vegas.
Developers envision it as part of a so-called "Cotai Strip," which will go up away from the main action in Macau with an estimated 60,000 hotel rooms. Adelson's company is touting it as "the Las Vegas Strip of Asia."
Meantime, Lui's next hotel-casino project, the Galaxy StarWorld Hotel, is coming soon, with the piling work set to begin by next month, company spokesman John Au said.
Amid all the sudden bustle of this former Portuguese colony returned to Chinese rule in 1999, American casino boss Wynn remains the wild card.
Wynn threatened in August to pull out of a planned venture if Macau failed to enact gambling reforms by the end of last year. It didn't happen, but Wynn didn't make good on his threat to bail out.
The tycoon recently showed a visitor in his Las Vegas office a mockup of a Macau property -- a smaller version of his $2.4 billion Wynn Las Vegas megaresort now being built.
Wynn is hoping for legislative changes in Macau that would let his company extend credit to gamblers, as well as tax reforms.
Macau lawmakers are working on allowing for casinos to lend money to gamblers, but one of them, Ng Kuok-cheong, said the bill stops short on tax concessions.
Marco Bruno June 22nd, 2004, 10:04 PM I think that Mr. Ho is the same boss of the biggest casino in portugal: Casino Estoril, and he will make a new casino very soon on Lisbon riverside.
SeeMacau June 23rd, 2004, 04:37 AM Mr. Ho also planning to build casinos in Philippines too
SeeMacau September 19th, 2004, 04:03 AM Expansion project of a new wing of Asia's oldest casino resort Hotel Lisboa in Macao is expected to cost some 250 million US dollars to flaunt itself among Asia's most luxury hotels.
Expansion project of a new wing of Asia's oldest casino resort Hotel Lisboa in Macao is expected to cost some 250 million US dollars to flaunt itself among Asia's most luxury hotels.
Macao's largest Portuguese-languaged newspaper Ponto Final said Friday that Stanley Ho Hung Sun will launch construction of the 40-story Grand Lisboa next to his flagship Hotel Lisboa, which houses his largest casino-entertainment parlors, this month.
The newspaper quoted its sources with Ho's Macao Gaming Co. Ltd.as saying that the 40-floor mega-hotel will comprise 800 hotel rooms and 30,000 square meters in casino space.
The expansion project to be completed in 40 months in two phases will be started on a former soccer pitch, facing the three-decade old Hotel Lisboa across a street and connected by an overhead walkway. It is expected to turn the future hotel into Macao's tallest building.
At present, the 338-meter Macao Tower is the tallest building in Macao, which is also owned by Ho's affiliated company.
Speaking to the media earlier this year, Ho said the hotel's facade would resemble the lotus flower, which is regarded as an official emblem of Macao Special Administrative Region (SAR).
Ho's gaming company now runs all 12 operating casinos in Macao.The company holds one of Macao's three casino-operating concessions granted by the Macao SAR government in 2002. The other two concessions are held by the Hong Kong-owned Galaxy Group with The Venetian from Las Vegas as a sub-concession, and Wynn Resorts from Las Vegas.
Galaxy and The Venetian have announced their plan to open their first casinos in Macao next month. Wynn Resorts is expected to start construction of a mega-casino resort in Macao's Outer Harborby the end of the year.
However, before the high-profile exposure of foreign casino rivals, Ho still has the stronghold in the gaming market. His casino business made a record net profit of 3.3 billion patacas (412 million US dollars) last year, an increase of around 50 percent on the previous year.
van_gogh July 22nd, 2005, 01:50 PM Does anyone how is the progress of Grand Lisboa? Is the "egg" visible from ground level yet? Wynn started construction around the same time and its very visible already.
Curious George July 23rd, 2005, 11:42 AM Wow! This online forum has the most Macau information (daily news, transportations, latest developments) in English that I have seem so far. I am looking forward to visit Macau this Thanksgiving, and will take a picture of Grand Lisboa to share.
guia July 23rd, 2005, 02:02 PM Wow! This online forum has the most Macau information (daily news, transportations, latest developments) in English that I have seem so far. I am looking forward to visit Macau this Thanksgiving, and will take a picture of Grand Lisboa to share.
Hotel Lisboa & Grand Lisboa in July, 2005
http://www.guiaworld.com/image/macau/grandlisboa5.jpg
Grand Lisboa
http://www.guiaworld.com/image/macau/Hotellisboa057.jpg
Hotel Lisboa & Bank of China Building
SeeMacau July 24th, 2005, 03:50 AM Great updates!! Guia
but the speed is so slow for Hotel lisboa
what is the project under construction in front of New Yaohan (if im not mistaken), is it the Nam Van lake item?
SeeMacau July 24th, 2005, 03:51 AM Guia, do u take anymore pics of Macau?
SeeMacau July 24th, 2005, 03:52 AM Wow! This online forum has the most Macau information (daily news, transportations, latest developments) in English that I have seem so far. I am looking forward to visit Macau this Thanksgiving, and will take a picture of Grand Lisboa to share.
Welcome to this forum!! :)
wish u can take some pics of macau and share to us .. cant wait!! :D
guia July 24th, 2005, 10:22 AM Great updates!! Guia
but the speed is so slow for Hotel lisboa
what is the project under construction in front of New Yaohan (if im not mistaken), is it the Nam Van lake item?
http://www.guiaworld.com/image/macau/Hotellisboa057x.jpg
guia July 24th, 2005, 10:32 AM Guia, do u take anymore pics of Macau?
http://www.guiaworld.com/image/macau/Taipa2.jpg
North of Taipa
van_gogh July 25th, 2005, 06:43 AM no progress at all for Grand Lisboa. How about they finish the diamond egg part by 2006? I never knew that they have a Kam Pek extension. Would you have the rendering for it?
van_gogh July 25th, 2005, 11:18 AM The Portugese school still hasnt' been removed yet. Do they have to wait till when the relocation is done in order to start construction?
guia July 25th, 2005, 02:09 PM no progress at all for Grand Lisboa. How about they finish the diamond egg part by 2006? I never knew that they have a Kam Pek extension. Would you have the rendering for it?
Casino Kam Pek will expansion to four floors
http://www.guiaworld.com/image/macau/KamPek2X.jpg
Casino Kam Pek at San Kin Yip Commercial Center
1/F is Original "Casino Kam Pek"
2/F is New additional "Casino Arabian's Night"
3/F is Mocha Slot Hall at Kam Pak
4/F is new expansion floor of casino
konghsvincent September 24th, 2005, 10:18 AM Things are on progress, the egg will come out soon
SeeMacau September 25th, 2005, 12:49 PM welcome to the forum konghsvincent !! :)
r u from macau too?
bs_lover_boy October 10th, 2005, 01:17 PM What happened to the bridge???
SeeMacau October 11th, 2005, 04:22 AM the bridge is re-open again
ggaaxx January 31st, 2007, 05:51 AM so hurry for the new year crowd.....:cheers:
Grand Lisboa is to open on 11 February, just before the approach of the Lunar New Year on 18 February.
In an SJM press release, CEO Stanley Ho claimed that the 1 February has consistently been the 'target date' for the construction progress of the complex.
The press release also claimed that personnel and equipments have arrived for the preparation of the inauguration.
It should be pointed out that it is the casino part of the complex, at the lower floors, that will open. The remainder of the structure will still be under construction.
source (http://macau.blogharbor.com/blog/_archives/2007/1/31/2697114.html)
SeeMacau February 9th, 2007, 04:38 PM there will be a daily cash prize drawings on the opening day
ggaaxx February 9th, 2007, 09:02 PM what a gimmick!:|
a2zMacau February 10th, 2007, 11:53 AM Tens of thousands of gamblers are expected to descend on Macau Sunday for the opening of a spectacular new high-rise casino in the booming Chinese gambling resort. Punters from Hong Kong, mainland China and Taiwan will queue for seats at the new Grand Lisboa where owners have promised to give 10,000 Hong Kong dollars (1,300 US dollars) to a random guest every 15 minutes.
The six-hour, 31,000-US-dollar giveaway, which begins when the new casino opens at 10 p.m. Sunday, is expected to spark off a frenzy among casino fans in the former Portuguese colony.
In September last year, the Las Vegas-owned Wynn casino was forced to open its doors early when false rumours swept through the waiting crowd that free gambling chips were going to be given away on the opening night.
The Grand Lisboa, a giant multi-storey casino a stone's throw from the Wynn, is casino mogul Stanley Ho's extravagant answer to the wave of new Las Vegas casinos opening in Macau.
Macau's biggest building, it boasts 40 floors, 200 gaming tables and is shaped like a giant lotus flower, symbol of the territory which reverted to Chinese sovereignty in 1999 after 449 years of Portuguese colonial rule.
Ho held a 40-year monopoly on Macau's casinos until the island's chief executive Edmund Ho opened up the industry in 2003 to allow swish Vegas-run casino resorts to operate.
Macau now appears to be on course to establish itself as the world's number one gambling resort largely because Chinese gamblers bet far more heavily than their counterparts in Las Vegas and Monaco.
a2zMacau February 12th, 2007, 06:50 AM I just found this great clip, even though the quality is not so good!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An-12kRGfa4
The animation is awesome!:banana:
ggaaxx February 13th, 2007, 06:35 PM ^^
To embed youtube video in this forum, you can do this:
1. Type in a pair of youtube tags (youtube) (/youtube), replace ( ) with [ ]
2. Put whatever after the "=" in your youtube link between the tags
An-12kRGfa4
ggaaxx February 13th, 2007, 06:39 PM didn't know it will be that tall.:shocked:
Over 10,000 people were known to have gathered around the flagship premise of SJM which opened last night (11 February).
The management of Grand Lisboa decided to open the casino ten minutes earlier than the scheduled 22:00.
500 police officers plus 600 members of staff from SJM took part in maintaining order of the crowd.
Grand Lisboa, the tallest building in Macau after Macau Tower , measures 52 storeys high and 240 gaming tables and 480 slot machines distributed in five floors.
The hotel complex is still under construction, and will provide 430 rooms if completed before the end of December.
source (http://macau.blogharbor.com/blog/_archives/2007/2/12/2728407.html)
a2zMacau February 14th, 2007, 09:13 AM [QUOTE=ggaaxx;11724635]^^
To embed youtube video in this forum, you can do this:
1. Type in a pair of youtube tags (youtube) (/youtube), replace ( ) with [ ]
2. Put whatever after the "=" in your youtube link between the tags
Thanks for the tip, you learn something everyday! :banana:
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Here is the clip of the opening! :cheers:
ggaaxx February 16th, 2007, 08:58 PM His rivals boast the financial faith of public equity markets, but Stanley Ho has the natural spirits on his side. Two feng shui experts say that Ho's forthcoming Grand Lisboa is positioned to dominate the competition. These masters of the ancient Chinese art of harmonizing buildings and interiors with nature have some suggestions to ensure Ho's Sociedad de Jogos de Macau (SJM) doesn't squander its divine advantage.
Consulting a renowned feng shui expert can cost millions of patacas. For casino moguls seeking advice on their new gaming facilities, fees reach astronomical proportions. Two famous and respected feng shui masters point out the good and the bad in today's gaming geography. The results were curious, but one thing is certain: you can't just wish for nature's blessing, you must pay for it.
With the opening of the Sands Macao casino in 2004, many predicted the end of Stanley Ho's golden era. However, the end of one era simples marks the start of another era. Even when life was easier for SJM's boss with the gambling monopoly, he fretted about feng shui. Now more than ever, Ho feels the terrain before stepping on it.
Winning bat
Ho's flagship Hotel Lisboa is a feng shui triumph. Its main entrance represents a bat turned upside down: an animal that sucks blood encourages the building to suck money. The Nobre de Carvalho Bridge channels the money right to Lisboa's casino door, and the stairs point the way in.
In their bid to end the Lisboa's domination, Ho's rivals have also enlisted feng shui, and the war is on. Since the design and construction of one casino influences others, the new projects require modifications to fight negative influences. This cycle goes on and on, as long as there's enough ambition and money.
Hotel Lisboa is now a dwarf next to its neighbours. The new Wynn Macau just opposite is "squishing" it, according to one expert. With the Bank of China building on the opposite side, dear old Lisboa is being "smashed" from all sides. But it's only a temporary squeeze.
According to feng shui master Cheang Kwai Sang, the obvious "rescue strategy" is to build a bigger and more imposing building. Rising next to the original, Ho's Grand Lisboa, taller than Bank of China and much bigger than Wynn, will turn the balance once again in favour of SJM. Cheang salutes the Grand Lisboa project as a "brilliant idea".
Cheang's office walls in Taipa are covered with photographs of famous people who have called during his 30 years in Macau. The Master, as Cheang likes to be called, also flaunts his interest in "accidents foreseen at birth" with a wall of newspaper clips documents events he knew were about to happen, mainly car accidents. He strongly believes people's names and birth dates determine what professions they should follow, as well as the dates good and bad things will happen to them.
Grand Lisboa has a bad name
When it comes to the new balance between casinos, the master has no doubts about Grand Lisboa's future greatness. But every rose has its thorns. Grand Lisboa should change its name, Cheang says, noting that the English name was chosen before the Chinese one.
Grand Lisboa translates to New Lisboa in Chinese. The three characters - San Pou Keng - are written in 36 strokes, which bring bad luck. In feng shui's language, the number 36 together with the name means "difficulty and complication". He suggests a change according to Chinese tastes - Gold Lisboa. Aside from the cultural benefit, Kam Pou Keng needs only 31 strokes to be written. That's "very good, meaning strength, leadership and command," Cheang says, and consistent with the style that Stanley Ho cultivates. The names Wynn and Sands may not have been chosen by feng shui masters, but they sound very good in Cantonese, especially Sands, which translates to Chinese and Portuguese as Golden Sand.
Wynn fakes it
Steve Wynn's new casino looks like the profile of a hand, Cheang says, covering the old Lisboa's view, with its sight on the water. In Cantonese, water also means money. Chang says everything round is linked with that precious resource. But he derides the curvature of Wynn Macau as "a fake round". Cheang says that's a bad shape for business, although good for government buildings, museums, libraries and cultural activities.
Feng shui master Si Tou disagrees. With a list of published books and a long waiting list for consultations, Si Tou believes Wynn Macau has very good feng shui. The roundabout just in front of Wynn is a good element, he says, seeing the round shape as a "hand" that "grabs" money circulating in the vicinity. But he feels the main entrance facing northeast may bring "bad things" during 2007. Overall, though, Si Tou expects good business ahead for the next two years for Wynn, Sands and SJM.
Stanley Ho's pearl
Even with a bad name, both masters agree Grand Lisboa has great feng shui and that the casino will be successful. Master Cheang thinks that the "pearl" at the base of the building is an excellent idea because it makes the entire project look like a "hand holding a pearl". Others see the base as an "egg" or "ball". In one opinion, the Grand Lisboa is a "lotus flower being born from an egg".
But Cheang fears the building is too close to Bank of China and that "the street is narrow" for such an imposing building. He suggests adding a plaza at the main entrance and a fountain, projecting water - symbolizing money - toward the building. There should be "large areas to balance the entire site," Cheang says. "With a square just in front, the feng shui would greatly improve."
Si Tou sees the situation differently. Grand Lisboa will "transfer" good feng shui to Hotel Lisboa. "The goal is to allow Hotel Lisboa to maintain its longstanding aspirations." Since Wynn could only account for the Hotel Lisboa building, Grand Lisboa "holds all the cards," Si Tou adds. To him, Grand Lisboa is a "pearl" and Wynn is a "hand", and "that hand will always sustain the pearl". In other words, the more Wynn earns, the more Grand Lisboa receives. The Wynn "hand" could just grab the "pearl" and win, but the tall building protects it, according to Si Tou.
Frog on a disco ball
However, to maximize Grand Lisboa's feng shui, Si Tou recommends converting the "pearl" into a mirrored ball. "If the structure was covered by crystals or glass, like in a disco, the multiple reflections would keep all evil things at bay," Si Tou explains. "Perfection would be achieved if there were some light projectors creating the feeling of movement around the pearl." He thinks that good feng shui would spread to all in the vicinity, except Wynn.
The Grand Lisboa may not get that disco ball, but Si Tou is sure there will be a frog to partner with Lisboa's bat across the street. Among feng shui enthusiasts, the frog is known as a "money sucking" animal. This master, whose books include one on avoiding bad luck in casinos, encourages everyone to place a frog (the ones with a coin in their mouth) facing the sea or other water, in a window or on a balcony.
MGM has the stars
MGM Grand Macau casino has favourable lucky stars, Si Tou says. He warns that with MGM and Grand Lisboa flanking it, Wynn will "tremble", echoing Master Cheang's prediction that Wynn would have a difficult 2007. MGM Grand Macau is a partnership between US based MGM Mirage and Pansy Ho's Shun Tak, operating under subconcession from SJM. Pansy Ho is the daughter of Stanley Ho, and the family probably gets advice from the same feng shui masters, so the two buildings could work together against Wynn.
The Venetian Macao on Cotai resembles "two hands shaped like a shell," extremely fortunate, as Si Tou sees it. The shell shape allows the casino to gather water, in this case, money tourists bring as they land at the nearby airport. Si Tou believes that Melco's City of Dreams being built behind Venetian won't get many "leftovers". Melco has enough time to correct the problem, Si Tou says, although "it will be hard to find a solution".
Galaxy's site in Cotai is just a huge hole at the moment, but Si Tou has seen some blueprints and remembers a detail at the top of the building. "There will be a sort of a sword pointed at Venetian," he recalls. If properly designed, that sword could "cut" its neighbour's source of income. But the master warns, "It really has to be well done, otherwise it could turn against Galaxy."
Si Tou offers another cautious note. "So far we have three winners, but in the end, only one will remain. Between 2009 and 2010, big changes are going to happen, and [then] we'll get to know the final winner."
by Joyce Pina
source (http://www.macaubusiness.com/index.php?id=579)
http://grandlisboa.com/Grand%20Lisboa%20front%20page.jpg
SeeMacau February 22nd, 2007, 03:18 PM didn't know it will be that tall.:shocked:
Over 10,000 people were known to have gathered around the flagship premise of SJM which opened last night (11 February).
The management of Grand Lisboa decided to open the casino ten minutes earlier than the scheduled 22:00.
500 police officers plus 600 members of staff from SJM took part in maintaining order of the crowd.
Grand Lisboa, the tallest building in Macau after Macau Tower , measures 52 storeys high and 240 gaming tables and 480 slot machines distributed in five floors.
The hotel complex is still under construction, and will provide 430 rooms if completed before the end of December.
source (http://macau.blogharbor.com/blog/_archives/2007/2/12/2728407.html)
This will be the tallest building in macau probably in the next few years, unless we have more new projects coming up which is taller than this one
SeeMacau February 22nd, 2007, 03:21 PM thanks for sharing the videos a2zmacau, the Grand Lisboa is indeed look so giant
Jo March 14th, 2007, 04:57 PM Not sure if construction updates are needed, since most people living in Macao can see this one almost daily, but here's the status on the 5th of March..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v515/joprb/travel/98aa6915.jpg
ggaaxx March 14th, 2007, 08:24 PM There are not many people in this board live in Macau. It's good to see the updated pictures. Thank you for sharing.
a2zMacau March 15th, 2007, 06:09 AM Hi Jo,
Great shot, now if you could also make some update pictures on The Cotai Strip, Venetian, Crown Macau, Ponte 16, MGM Grand and Wynn Expansion, that would be really great!!!!
I hope its not too much to ask, of course we don't want them all at once :lol:
Cheers,
Bert
ChauTauVillager March 15th, 2007, 09:24 AM Nice Pics. Wonder if its as golden as the original painting at night !
Think a lot of people here have linkages with Macau but don't live there.
Jo March 16th, 2007, 01:59 PM I'm not in Macau any more. Was just there three days, so this is the only update I have I'm afraid :(
I didn't see much of the Cotai Strip, just passed the Venetian construction in the airport bus. I recall the main buildings are in place but much work remains to be done.
The same with Crown Macau. I passed by but didn't take any photos. It's near completion I guess.
Is MGM Grand that highrise with a wavy facade? Cladding was more than halfway to the top IIRC. Wynn expansion looked like it would open any day now, if I'm talking about the right building :)
The glass sculptures near Wynn/Lisboa are almost done, but the underpasses are not open yet.
The amount of casino developments in Macau is amazing right now. I have to get back there one day!
dreamtime October 28th, 2007, 07:13 PM Well i just want to say this forum is quite intersting and informative but 1 thing myths me i have just been to Macau and saw Grand lisboa and yet i cant find a single thread about it in here????
Have you all gone bnored of skyscrapers or something??????
Its the bets skyscrape ri have ever seen and it snot even completley finishe dyet but almost just the top of it now.
Iwish i could post pics i took of it but i cant do it now a sim on holiday and without the correct wires etc.. BUT WH YTHE HELL NOBODY MENTION IT??????? WHATS UP MAN???? Its the real deal best thing since sliced bread.
Anybody know its official height also??
and hello Macau beautiful place best place i have been so far :cheers:
ggaaxx October 29th, 2007, 03:47 AM ^^
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=112461
Of course we haven't overlooked it. Looking forward to your pictures!:)
MacauVillager28 October 29th, 2007, 05:25 AM Well i just want to say this forum is quite intersting and informative but 1 thing myths me i have just been to Macau and saw Grand lisboa and yet i cant find a single thread about it in here????
Have you all gone bnored of skyscrapers or something??????
Its the bets skyscrape ri have ever seen and it snot even completley finishe dyet but almost just the top of it now.
Iwish i could post pics i took of it but i cant do it now a sim on holiday and without the correct wires etc.. BUT WH YTHE HELL NOBODY MENTION IT??????? WHATS UP MAN???? Its the real deal best thing since sliced bread.
Anybody know its official height also??
and hello Macau beautiful place best place i have been so far :cheers:
I think dreamtime has a point here..... I think a lot of people interested in Macau are into the 'new' things more... Cotai, Venetian, MGM Grand, MelcoPBL/Crown, Wynn, Galaxy etc... Whereas this seems to be just 'another' of Mr Ho's casinos. Maybe Mr Ho needs a bit more on PR side.
I would agree it terms of visual, it is one of the most unusual buildings around (on a par with Venetian (due to size) and Macau Tower).
Also, most of the people looking at Macau are say people from the US who may be interested in what the US co's are doing in Macau.
However, in defense, I think it is hard to take a good picture of Grand Lisboa since it is not on the seafront, so other buildings obscure the base. And when you get close enough to see the base, the top is too hi to photograph !! Maybe someone can figure out a location ??
SeeMacau October 30th, 2007, 08:28 AM the construction of the hotel part is going very slow,
this is the most recent pic taken by stayrudee
www.flickr.com
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2172/1799174190_767ac94d4f_o.jpg
Jim856796 November 4th, 2007, 01:27 PM I say the design of the Grand Lisboa is quite original. I haven't seen any similar-looking skyscrapers anywhere else in the world.
Cidade_Branca November 19th, 2007, 10:44 PM Wow...
superchan7 November 22nd, 2007, 09:45 PM Very interesting building, anyone with recent updates?
hkth January 3rd, 2008, 02:13 PM Xinhua News:
Asia's oldest casino resort Hotel Lisboa to be rebuilt (http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-01/02/content_7355648.htm)
-- Would the "Birdcage" be torn down then? :?
LealSenado January 5th, 2008, 06:05 PM I think so mate :(
MacauVillager28 January 6th, 2008, 08:38 AM Shame !! Such an icon, and lights still look good...
On the bright side... will they do Macau's first LV-style explosion demolition !!
Jim856796 January 6th, 2008, 05:47 PM ^^ They may do an implosion (although the taller hotel tower would be one year short of a full life when that happens in 2009). I don't know how i can implode more than one hotel towers at once. I think the implosion needs to be done in phases.
I may need some information on how the Hotel Lisboa expanded.
LealSenado January 6th, 2008, 06:51 PM No demolition. According to the macanese architects Rui Lećo and Carlos Marreiros the new project will just make a "facelift" to the building.
MacauVillager28 January 7th, 2008, 03:45 AM No demolition. According to the macanese architects Rui Lećo and Carlos Marreiros the new project will just make a "facelift" to the building.
Didn't Mr Ho just say to the media there'll be an 'international design competition' ???
MacauVillager28 January 7th, 2008, 04:01 AM ^^ They may do an implosion (although the taller hotel tower would be one year short of a full life when that happens in 2009). I don't know how i can implode more than one hotel towers at once. I think the implosion needs to be done in phases.
I may need some information on how the Hotel Lisboa expanded.
Just joking !!! Don't think there'll be an implosion - I personally think site is too small and too crowded (tho looks like Jim's the expert - noticed the 'I'). But if I didn't make the comment then wouldn't have known Jim was an implosion expert !!!
I don't think HK/Macau ever had an explosion (similar - crowded), tho there's been one just across my home, over the border in Shenzhen, China.
However, I'm sure if Lisboa can be imploded, Mr Ho would do it and make money from getting visitors to see it !.:lol:
Wow... never thought we have such 'explosive' personalities visiting this Macau section !
LealSenado January 7th, 2008, 12:53 PM There'll be an 'international design competition' but no demolition in mind of Uncle Stanley.
sfgadv02 January 23rd, 2008, 12:35 AM Weren't they already doing facelift before?
SeeMacau February 16th, 2008, 05:22 PM Grand Lisboa @ night
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd99/eric0130/Thailand/P1020661.jpg
SeeMacau February 16th, 2008, 05:23 PM http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd99/eric0130/Thailand/P1020660.jpg
SeeMacau February 16th, 2008, 05:24 PM http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd99/eric0130/Thailand/P1020673.jpg
SeeMacau February 16th, 2008, 05:25 PM statue of a horse's head bought by Stanley Ho
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd99/eric0130/Thailand/P1020664.jpg
Ekumenopolis March 6th, 2008, 01:03 PM SO bizarre (on the top, at street level, and even inside!) :nuts:
Chrisvenz June 6th, 2008, 05:38 PM very nice building. the best in the world i guess
macau_now June 11th, 2008, 02:45 PM very nice building. the best in the world i guess
:puke: I think it is one of the ugliest and ill-proportioned monstruosities ever to grace the Macau landscape...
coimbra July 11th, 2008, 05:24 PM Here's a recent picture, under the rain.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3164/2628332758_fbea4ec1c8.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gurugo/2628332758/
hkskyline August 7th, 2008, 03:12 PM Six firms have designs on giving 38-year-old Lisboa a new look
31 July 2008
South China Morning Post
Architectural designs for redeveloping Macau's iconic casino, the 38-year-old Lisboa, have gone on display at Grand Lisboa, the flagship casino of SJM Holdings.
Unnamed pictures of a dozen concepts submitted by six design firms are being shown in an exhibition, from yesterday to Sunday, in the casino's Grand Ballroom.
Gaming mogul Stanley Ho Hung-sun, the managing director of SJM, praised the long history of Casino Lisboa at the exhibition's opening ceremony, referring to it as Macau's "heritage". "While integrated resorts are now the accepted formula in Macau, it should be remembered that this innovative concept was introduced by us back in 1970," he said.
SJM was aiming for a redevelopment that would be "unique and culturally appropriate for Macau".
Each design firm has come up with two concepts: one with, and the other without, the Lisboa's famed "birdcage" design. It is still uncertain whether the birdcage will be retained in the redevelopment.
The exhibition is part of a design contest organised by SJM. A judging panel comprising SJM executives and architects will shortlist three concepts for a second round, in which a winner will be selected.
When Casino Lisboa opened in 1970, its circular design was considered revolutionary at the time. The birdcage shape was especially popular among foreign tourists.
Many Hong Kong gamblers believe that the "birdcage" has a special fung shui effect - "caging" punters and their money inside.
But Mr Ho said yesterday that fung shui was not considered. "People said it was a fung shui design to confine gamblers," he said, "Lisboa was designed by Eric Cumine, a relative of mine. He is a foreigner who knows nothing about fung shui."
Design firms taking part in the contest include Paul Andreu Architecte of Paris, which designed the National Grand Theatre of China; Dennis Lau & Ng Chun Man Architects & Engineering, which designed the Grand Lisboa; and Simon Kwan & Associates, which designed the Hong Kong Science Park.
Blackraven November 15th, 2011, 08:27 PM Sorry to bump this but has anyone seen Rowan Atkinson (Johnny English) at the Grand Lisboa Hotel and Casino? :)
NuncaPior November 18th, 2011, 07:01 PM Met some of the crew when they were making it here. No chance to watch it on cinema yet.
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