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screenshotartist
May 5th, 2010, 03:43 AM
I was wondering across the net when I came across this. Modern Villas Under Construction in Gombe Kinshasa. I am not sure if this has been posted on SSC before.

Thanks to Mr Butembo for telling me they have been Completed already. I have edited the topic title and set them under the completed category.

The Images date back to 2008 and they are all a courtesy of Hasan Jaffal

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/5813/belleveugombekinshasa.jpg (http://img88.imageshack.us/i/belleveugombekinshasa.jpg/)

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/6877/belleveukinshasa1.jpg (http://img28.imageshack.us/i/belleveukinshasa1.jpg/)

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/4197/kinshasabelleveuvillago.jpg (http://img413.imageshack.us/i/kinshasabelleveuvillago.jpg/)

BUTEMBO21
May 5th, 2010, 05:44 AM
Any website or info about the project?

I can't even see the picture on this computer, check it on a different computer.

BUTEMBO21
May 5th, 2010, 08:14 AM
Oh , these apartments were completed 3-4 years ago.

screenshotartist
May 5th, 2010, 08:26 AM
Thanks Butembo for the Info.

Are they any similar project for the future or under construction?

These look very good and I hope the developer has more plans in mind.

BUTEMBO21
May 5th, 2010, 08:30 AM
I like them as well and they look they can be built en mass and very fast. but i don't know they are any other projects like similar. i would like to see more like that.

Lubum09
May 5th, 2010, 11:48 AM
I know a guy who is building a similar building (but a litle bit smaller) in ngaliema... I'll ask some pics. Real estate is the safest investment and this kind of projects does really improve the living standard... But in DRC it's not always easy to get a piece of land, and the rest is not easy at all... I hope that all the OHADA changes about business facilities will improve the situation.

DRC should have a real estate strategy such as in Kenya which will boost the economy and give many jobs to the congolese. That would contribute to the 5 yards of JK.

screenshotartist
May 5th, 2010, 01:15 PM
I know a guy who is building a similar building (but a litle bit smaller) in ngaliema... I'll ask some pics. Real estate is the safest investment and this kind of projects does really improve the living standard... But in DRC it's not always easy to get a piece of land, and the rest is not easy at all... I hope that all the OHADA changes about business facilities will improve the situation.

DRC should have a real estate strategy such as in Kenya which will boost the economy and give many jobs to the congolese. That would contribute to the 5 yards of JK.

I would like to see some pics :)

Congolese really need to look at what others are doing and follow or try harder rather than admire and comment on how far behind we are or we could never do that.

What I would also like to see implemented is the eradication of slums such as the ones taking place in Nairobi. By that I mean Targeting places such as Masina or whichever is the worst slum and construct massive units with water and electricity.

This has been a great success in Kenya. Kibera in Nairobi is the world's second largest Slum, (Just a fact) but that is soon to be history

preme3000
May 5th, 2010, 04:08 PM
I agree with all the above statements, these type of projects are much needed and don't require much in terms of finances and logistics. Construction is an easy industry to grow, my dream is to see a major public works program in a joint government-private effort.

Thanks for the pics also, I rememeber seeing it somewhere a couple of years back.

Mulopwe
May 5th, 2010, 04:56 PM
I agree with all the above statements, these type of projects are much needed and don't require much in terms of finances and logistics. Construction is an easy industry to grow, my dream is to see a major public works program in a joint government-private effort.

Thanks for the pics also, I rememeber seeing it somewhere a couple of years back.

Well done by Congo Future.

Mulopwe

BUTEMBO21
May 5th, 2010, 05:03 PM
Well done by Congo Future.

Mulopwe

That was Congo future project?

BUTEMBO21
May 5th, 2010, 05:10 PM
I would like to see some pics :)

Congolese really need to look at what others are doing and follow or try harder rather than admire and comment on how far behind we are or we could never do that.


Exactly

What I would also like to see implemented is the eradication of slums such as the ones taking place in Nairobi. By that I mean Targeting places such as Masina or whichever is the worst slum and construct massive units with water and electricity.

That's what important first. Water, electricity and a decent shelter. taking people out of misery, extreme poverty first.

And the apartments should be smaller as well. those who want bigger can go get work hard and make more money to build the kind of house they want.


I think the people in slams should either get the land (which they can sell to developers and make more money) or the government should Smaller apartments in high rises.

This has been a great success in Kenya. Kibera in Nairobi is the world's second largest Slum, (Just a fact) but that is soon to be history

That will not happen with the Morronic Government and even worst the Idiotic , moronic , maniac thug Andres Kimbuta.

Mulopwe
May 5th, 2010, 06:02 PM
That was Congo future project?

Yes it was. Since then, they built another complex and one is under construction along with Crown Center on 30 Juin Blvd.

Mulopwe

BUTEMBO21
May 5th, 2010, 06:27 PM
Yes it was. Since then, they built another complex and one is under construction along with Crown Center on 30 Juin Blvd.

Mulopwe

These guys are really good. they should be given opportunities to transform Kinshasa's slums. But that will never happen with this dumb Kimbuta and the Idiots , morons central government .

Imagine if Kinshasa is given a Cement factory that produces 2.5 million tonnes of Cement/year.

Then hire Congo future as contractor to transform the ghettos. Kinshasa would change within less than 10 years.

In facts every Province should have 2 a cement factory that prodeces at least 1.5 million tonnes of cement to use in building mass housing, schools and Hospitals and urban roads as well.

And have every province to an Asphalt machine to build state highways .

The country would change within just 10 years wihtout ever calling Chinese or Koreans.

This project could only coast 2 billion dollars.

But thats possible if we had a Visionary, disciplined, patriotic leadership.

Mulopwe
May 5th, 2010, 09:04 PM
These guys are really good. they should be given opportunities to transform Kinshasa's slums. But that will never happen with this dumb Kimbuta and the Idiots , morons central government .

Imagine if Kinshasa is given a Cement factory that produces 2.5 million tonnes of Cement/year.

Then hire Congo future as contractor to transform the ghettos. Kinshasa would change within less than 10 years.

In facts every Province should have 2 a cement factory that prodeces at least 1.5 million tonnes of cement to use in building mass housing, schools and Hospitals and urban roads as well.

And have every province to an Asphalt machine to build state highways .

The country would change within just 10 years wihtout ever calling Chinese or Koreans.

This project could only coast 2 billion dollars.

But thats possible if we had a Visionary, disciplined, patriotic leadership.

You are right… We need more cement factories; it is one the reason why Rakeem have not start on the 3rd project. Congo Future has my full support.

Mulopwe

BUTEMBO21
May 5th, 2010, 09:16 PM
You are right… We need more cement factories; it is one the reason why Rakeem have not start on the 3rd project. Congo Future has my full support.

Mulopwe

Can you imagine what Sudan just did?

They spent $1.5 billion on Cement industry and now they are about to produce 10+ million tones/year.

and thats only 6 massive Cement factories. and their demand is only 2.5 million right now.

same demand as us, but for us, that money is what we steal through corruption.


If we expand CILU, CINAT, the one in South Kivu, Kalemie, and CIMEKAT ( Near Kolwezi, Likasi) , Build a bigger CIPOR (Kisangani), build the one in Kasai Oriental,

We can even just spend 1 billion and boost production and even export to those that need it. making extra money.

The cheaper the cement the more contruction there will be. Its like food.

screenshotartist
May 6th, 2010, 12:21 AM
Yes it was. Since then, they built another complex and one is under construction along with Crown Center on 30 Juin Blvd.



So there is another one under construction? :cheers:


My congratulations to these guys :banana: I would like to see some pics.

BUTEMBO21
May 6th, 2010, 12:37 AM
You are right… We need more cement factories; it is one the reason why Rakeem have not start on the 3rd project. Congo Future has my full support.

Mulopwe



These or different ones?


Courtesy of forumer Yupes
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1040007



http://i32.tinypic.com/dz9w5s.jpg



http://i30.tinypic.com/14vsrbt.jpg

screenshotartist
May 6th, 2010, 05:09 AM
These Villas are Tres Kitoko


Here is a link to an album showing more of them including interiors.
http://picasaweb.google.com/smithoasis/OurNewHome#

kaps76
May 6th, 2010, 05:22 AM
These Villas are Tres Kitoko


Here is a link to an album showing more of them including interiors.
http://picasaweb.google.com/smithoasis/OurNewHome#

Lovely pictures. Nice and clean. I dont know if acquisition opportunities were given to everybody or these were houses already prepaid, but in any case, very beautiful and I am very impressed.

I agree with what has been said by most people, we need a national housing strategy. We already have the expertise with Congo Future and Safricas. We can start building new cities, social housing in move the people leaving in some of these poorer area of the capital. Kenya, Angola, Nigeria and Marocco are doing a good job in that sense.

Yupes
May 6th, 2010, 04:12 PM
Sweet pictures^ Screenshotartist. They should be a definite interest in similar projects and the fact that not many villas are being built further reinstates the demand for villa projects.

Mulopwe
May 6th, 2010, 05:35 PM
These or different ones?


Courtesy of forumer Yupes
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1040007



http://i32.tinypic.com/dz9w5s.jpg



http://i30.tinypic.com/14vsrbt.jpg

Butembo21-

The two bellows on Blvd du 24 Nov are completed. The one on the top is under construction.

Kaps76,

Do not count on Safricas. It is the most corrupt construction company in DRC. We need to social housing program subsidize by the government through local financial institution … kind like the old ONL.

Mulopwe

BUTEMBO21
May 6th, 2010, 05:41 PM
LOL, Safricas are very corrupt and they take decades to finish something small. i have no respect for Safricas.

kaps76
August 20th, 2010, 02:26 PM
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/ogLDy0fXmNxuzPMLFdAgew?feat=directlink

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/C3IltriqEwSZyNBnbJ7o0Q?feat=directlink

young po
August 22nd, 2010, 01:29 AM
I got you mate! :)

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_xJyL2XzM-DY/TFt2Qs3auDI/AAAAAAAAAZk/fFiCzZ4SBBc/IMG00092-20100720-1002.jpg

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_xJyL2XzM-DY/TFt2RI-tDpI/AAAAAAAAAZo/sD9p_FBmed4/IMG00093-20100720-1003.jpg

BUTEMBO21
August 22nd, 2010, 02:03 AM
Now thats how i want all Kinshasa and Congo to look like. Immaculately clean.

C-RDCONGO
August 22nd, 2010, 02:52 AM
So guys is this property were this building are and the area state owned or they belong to
an investor ????

When we look at this picture I would like to know why this place is clean and able to stay clean???

BUTEMBO21
August 22nd, 2010, 03:05 AM
Its private . No wonder, its clean.

Nothing can be clean or in decent shape if owned and managed by government.

C-RDCONGO
August 22nd, 2010, 03:07 AM
Okay that makes sense
But man it just shows how beautiful of a city we could have.

C-RDCONGO
August 22nd, 2010, 03:08 AM
By the way what happened to the cleaning company that would work on making Kin clean??????

screenshotartist
August 22nd, 2010, 05:18 AM
Nothing state owned in Congo is ever clean or looked after. The selfishness and greed in the officials does not move them to think of allocating cleaning and maintenance funds.

That is why all the nice looking buildings in Kinshasa which were left by the Belgiums deteriorated over time and now I would rather have them not being there than see them. These buildings would make kinshasa look like a decent place but have never been serviced or cleaned since 1970s

From THIS back in the 50's

http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/6928/bdalbert1er.jpg (http://img688.imageshack.us/i/bdalbert1er.jpg/)

To THIS Nowadays The dirtiest skyline in the world, The paint is worn out and dirt outside, but in this case you can judge a book by its cover because inside these buildings is hell.

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/9936/img2096q.jpg (http://img291.imageshack.us/i/img2096q.jpg/)


Just look at a typical state owned building on the right
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3156/theotherkinshasa2.jpg (http://img267.imageshack.us/i/theotherkinshasa2.jpg/)

C-RDCONGO
August 22nd, 2010, 07:40 AM
Well as we can see, the more investors pour into Kin ,
the cleaner it will become. A place this small and its able to look like this...
Now if the private investors continue to pour in, how clean they will make the city.

djsmallz
August 25th, 2010, 12:52 PM
I got you mate! :)

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_xJyL2XzM-DY/TFt2Qs3auDI/AAAAAAAAAZk/fFiCzZ4SBBc/IMG00092-20100720-1002.jpg

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_xJyL2XzM-DY/TFt2RI-tDpI/AAAAAAAAAZo/sD9p_FBmed4/IMG00093-20100720-1003.jpg

hello mate

How are you? Tell me .. these properties are they for middle class then? I take it anyone living there is in a fairly good financial space or not?
cheers

Lubum09
August 25th, 2010, 02:07 PM
hello mate

How are you? Tell me .. these properties are they for middle class then? I take it anyone living there is in a fairly good financial space or not?
cheers

I'm currently in Belgium and I just met a guy in Brussels who lives in there, and I can assure this kind of properties are not affordable for the congolese "middle class". It's quite impossible to find properties in kinshasa for affordable prices. Even for somebody who lives and work in Europe, it isn't easy to get a house in kin!

That's why "la cité du fleuve" is very needed, it would put some competion on the market and lower the prices!

pro818
August 25th, 2010, 05:24 PM
how much are we talking about for a 4 bed room at belle vue ?

Mulopwe
August 25th, 2010, 05:55 PM
how much are we talking about for a 4 bed room at belle vue ?

Rent range from $400-1200.

If you want to purchase a property; Best deal is on Cite de la fleuve. Soon they are going to build the first 15 three stories apartments complex ....2, 3 and 4 bedrooms with price range between $25000 to 75000 ... cheaper than Rackeem and others. Gare central is the most expensive.

Mulopwe

screenshotartist
August 25th, 2010, 11:31 PM
Rent range from $400-1200.

If you want to purchase a property; Best deal is on Cite de la fleuve. Soon they are going to build the first 15 three stories apartments complex ....2, 3 and 4 bedrooms with price range between $25000 to 75000 ... cheaper than Rackeem and others. Gare central is the most expensive.

Mulopwe

Is that per week, Fortnight or month?



Gare centrale has the right to be expensive due to laction

Mulopwe
August 26th, 2010, 05:36 PM
Is that per week, Fortnight or month?



Gare centrale has the right to be expensive due to laction

Per month for flat or townhouse.

Mulopwe

djsmallz
August 26th, 2010, 11:10 PM
Rent range from $400-1200.

Soon they are going to build the first 15 three stories apartments complex ....2, 3 and 4 bedrooms with price range between $25000 to 75000 ... cheaper than Rackeem and others. Gare central is the most expensive.

Mulopwe


How soon ? If it's that low then don't expect it to be modern in any ways. but then again atleast the less fortunate are getting their deals... but if it's this way that robert is marketing this project he might steer the very wealthy away from the island lol!! i though cite fleuve was going to be the "victoria island- nigeria" of Congo

kaps76
August 27th, 2010, 03:55 AM
I too thought that the rent will be more expensive than that. I will wait, and this is affordable, I will definitely be tempted to get one.

C-RDCONGO
August 27th, 2010, 05:56 AM
I hope rent is more expensive than that......
The reason why I say this, is because in states or areas that is expensive to live,
a higher stander of living is forced to occur. People in general will demand more form their city or community.

BUTEMBO21
August 27th, 2010, 06:27 AM
I hope rent is more expensive than that......
The reason why I say this, is because in states or areas that is expensive to live,
a higher stander of living is forced to occur. People in general will demand more form their city or community.

No. Its not good for the people when rent is very expensive. It limits the number of people from getting excess to them. That slows down the economic progress or growth.

Its better when Developing real Estate must be affordable for more people.

Look at how the Chinese have taken over the world with their cheap and affordable products.

Even in the US. Real estate is affordable for many people and thats good for the economy. Thats why so many people are moving to Texas because the Rent is half that of California.

C-RDCONGO
August 27th, 2010, 06:33 AM
No. Its not good for the people when rent is very expensive. It limits the number of people from getting excess to them. That slows down the economic progress or growth.

Its better when Developing real Estate must be affordable for more people.

Look at how the Chinese have taken over the world with their cheap and affordable products.

Even in the US. Real estate is affordable for many people and thats good for the economy. Thats why so many people are moving to Texas because the Rent is half that of California.



400$ to me sounds to low.....
I would say at least 600 and up.
In BK or Goma alone you are paying the 600 for a decent developed place. And I said the high price because in society , places that are cheap seem to get runned down, and people tend to not ask for more or better.

BUTEMBO21
August 27th, 2010, 06:43 AM
400$ to me sounds to low.....
I would say at least 600 and up.
In BK or Goma alone you are paying the 600 for a decent developed place. And I said the high price because in society , places that are cheap seem to get runned down, and people tend to not ask for more or better.

But 400$ is not cheap in Kinshasa or Congo.

It only sounds Cheap to you because you live in a developed country.

screenshotartist
August 27th, 2010, 07:28 AM
But 400$ is not cheap in Kinshasa or Congo.

It only sounds Cheap to you because you live in a developed country.


Yes. If that was the Price in a developed nation it would have been way too cheap, but in Kinshasa that is way too much.


I was in Nairobi, and the really good places in Westlands or South C would not cost you that much, Now in Kinshasa a city that is pre-historic, that is way above the line.

BUTEMBO21
August 27th, 2010, 11:21 AM
Yes. If that was the Price in a developed nation it would have been way too cheap, but in Kinshasa that is way too much.

Prices get high because of shortage of products. If the quantity if the product satisfies the demand prices go down. This is the reason why


I was in Nairobi, and the really good places in Westlands or South C would not cost you that much, Now in Kinshasa a city that is pre-historic, that is way above the line.

It's high for Kinshasa because the construction materials are expensive.

Its logical. Importing most of the cement and other materials. will make the construction costly and that will make the owner elevate the price in order to get back his/her investments and then make profits.

Good think about this market. Its done by private for private. Marxist economic policies kept us behind the likes of Kanya, even Uganda in terms of Estate development.

Look at Bukavu, Goma. Places have a booming Estate equal to Kampala and Nairobi's. Thanks to market economy.

Trade = development . Thats how it been throughout Human history. Look at Lebanon. Its trade that builds Beirut after it has been destroyed. A country that has no single Natural resource.


That Mobutu nonsense Marxist economic policies were a disaster for Congo.

Mulopwe
August 27th, 2010, 03:55 PM
I too thought that the rent will be more expensive than that. I will wait, and this is affordable, I will definitely be tempted to get one.

Rent at belle view range from $400-1200 not at Cite Du Fleuve .... I think you all misinterpreted .


Mulopwe