Just saw in an article posted from Business Review Weekly a quote that Brisbane is set to become Australia's second biggest city within 20 years.

Optimistic as I am about Brisbane's pop overtaking Melbourne eventually, 20 years is definitely hard to swallow.

Maybe they meant SEQ?

Calling JayT!

Just saw in an article posted from Business Review Weekly a quote that Brisbane is set to become Australia's second biggest city within 20 years.

Optimistic as I am about Brisbane's pop overtaking Melbourne eventually, 20 years is definitely hard to swallow.

Lol, give us a look at the article! Even if Melbourne stopped growing right now (as opposed to the 50,000+ people it's been adding for the past few years), Brisbane would have to add almost 2 million more to catch up, which is 100,000 people a year for 20 years! The whole state of Queensland isn't growing that fast! ;)

Either the author of the article is extremely deluded, or they are referring to SEQ, in which case they shouldn't be calling it Brisbane's population! :)

I'd say they mean SEQ, but if that is what they meant it is still very optimistic (if not a little weird). Considering that Queensland is more decentralised and is not predicted to be larger than Victoria in 2021 (closest numbers) forgive me for being cynical.

2124, maybe.

shit not again...

again!

1 + 1 = A Window.

heh we haven't started a fight yet. I'm pretty sure they were including SEQ, as they also said that Brisbane's population would be 2 million people by this time. But I think SEQ = 2.5 million + 60k/year = 3.7 million in 20 years, which wouldn't even quite be Melbourne's population today, excluding Geelong etc.

Unfortunately I can't post a link, because I found it on a work intranet site which posts news articles relating to rail in some way (article was about need for increased infrastructure in SEQ). It was from Business Review Weekly though, and it was a passing reference, with no facts or figures quoted to back it up.

And I've seen this type of claim in the news before, so its no surprise some of us Brisbanites sometimes cause trouble by going on about Brisbane nipping at Melbourne's heels on this forum.

1. Sydney
2. Melbourne
3. Brisbane
4. Perth


There are clear definitions between all four.. so these constant claims that one or the other are close, or the same or catching up is stupid.

Those are the four Biggest cities in nearly every category in Australia, and until it ACTUALLY changes with proof, i think it is stupid.

I think Melbourne will always be more superior than Brisbane IMO.

I don't think anyone said anything about which city is, or will be more superior swifty78. Don't come on here starting arguments about which city is better, they are talking about populations here.

I think Melbourne will always be more superior than Brisbane IMO.

True, same as Chicago is superior to Los Angeles in terms of business ect - at least I think it still is. LA has now more than double the population though.

I think the article was probably looking at the entire metro region of SEQ rather than just Brisbane. (LOL have we been through this a thousand times)

I have seen many articles that state that SEQ will add another 800,000 people between now and 2011 due to interstate and international immigration on the rise. This should put the population of SEQ somewhere around the 3.5 million mark. And before you say the cities in SEQ will never meet up well GC and Brisbane arn't far off.

Out of interest I also saw some interesting stuff on growth within Queensland. The growth is in actual numbers not percentage but I don't have the figures, I do remember the order though.

Aparently Brisbane is number one in growth - LOL who would have thought:)
The Gold Coast is second in the state for growth
Hervey Bay is third - Yes Hervey Bay!!!
It beat the Sunshine Coast which is in 4th place for growth.

jt

Harvey Bay ahead of Sunshine Coast? I've heard before that it was no 1 in QLD on percentage growth, but it is surprising that in actual numbers it would be ahead of ss coast. I remember some stats from maybe 5 or more years ago which had Brisbane and Gold Coast at 13k growth, and ss coast at 12k (but split into Caloundra, Maroochydore and Noosa back then)

I've looked for some figures on the net and the best I've found suggests Hevery Bay is growing at 3k per year.

True, same as Chicago is superior to Los Angeles in terms of business ect - at least I think it still is. LA has now more than double the population though.

I think the article was probably looking at the entire metro region of SEQ rather than just Brisbane. (LOL have we been through this a thousand times)

I have seen many articles that state that SEQ will add another 800,000 people between now and 2011 due to interstate and international immigration on the rise. This should put the population of SEQ somewhere around the 3.5 million mark. And before you say the cities in SEQ will never meet up well GC and Brisbane arn't far off.

Out of interest I also saw some interesting stuff on growth within Queensland. The growth is in actual numbers not percentage but I don't have the figures, I do remember the order though.

Aparently Brisbane is number one in growth - LOL who would have thought:)
The Gold Coast is second in the state for growth
Hervey Bay is third - Yes Hervey Bay!!!
It beat the Sunshine Coast which is in 4th place for growth.

jt
Its all about Quality of Life not living in a permanent holiday/tourist town.

Its all about Quality of Life not living in a permanent holiday/tourist town.

Oh yeah - there's no quality of life on the Gold Coast - none at all. Give it a rest mate - one of your fellow Victorians reprimanded me the other day about making smart arse comments. I think he could/should look in his own back yard first - there is fertile ground there.

^^ yeah that was me... this time i agree with u...seriously Barney, u need to realx champ. A lot of what u post on this forum is just foolish dribble.. grow up dude and stop being so defensive.

Cheers

Dean - Melbourne

Oh yeah - there's no quality of life on the Gold Coast - none at all. Give it a rest mate - one of your fellow Victorians reprimanded me the other day about making smart arse comments. I think he could/should look in his own back yard first - there is fertile ground there.

Trouble with many Victorians on the forum, they are uneducated and many (not all) are very insular, parochial, ignorant and behind the times in the way they percieve life outside their state. Many would prefer not to believe Queensland and NSW actually exist which is why there is usually a tirade of abuse when you point out that fact that they do.

Get used to it Gough because you will find this kind of attitude occuring time and time again.

Ever notice that when you start a thread on subjects related to how well Queensland or NSW is doing on basically anything you can expect a tirade of abuse and yet when they post the same articles on Victoria they expect everyone to bow down and worship - LOL.

I just want to note that not all Victorians are like this and there are many who are knowledgeable and are interested about what happens north of the Murray and that every state even Qld poses people who are parochial, insular and who don't want information posted to do with other states.

jt

Trouble with many Victorians on the forum, they are uneducated and many (not all) are very insular, parochial, ignorant and behind the times in the way they percieve life outside their state. Many would prefer not to believe Queensland and NSW actually exist which is why there is usually a tirade of abuse when you point out that fact that they do.


LOL! If only! Hehe.

I also believe it goes two ways, a lot of Qlders fish for a response when we've been over this/other topics time and time again. Each time there might be a subtle difference but the response of many is not acceptable.

I have seen many articles that state that SEQ will add another 800,000 people between now and 2011 due to interstate and international immigration on the rise. This should put the population of SEQ somewhere around the 3.5 million mark. jt

Jayt i know your passionate, but u really need to think a little more... never never believe everything u read.

Given that the entire state is growing at around 80,000/year, and 2011 is 6 and a half years away, this figure(3.5million) is unlikely. Maybe around the high 2mill mark, is more realistic.

Now im not trying to be a smart arse, just trying to work by the numbers.

Cheers

Dean - Melbourne

Jayt i know your passionate, but u really need to think a little more... never never believe everything u read.

Given that the entire state is growing at around 80,000/year, and 2011 is 6 and a half years away, this figure(3.5million) is unlikely. Maybe around the high 2mill mark, is more realistic.

Now im not trying to be a smart arse, just trying to work by the numbers.

Cheers

Dean - Melbourne


Probably about 3 million would be right - eg-

Brisbane now approx 1800000
GC now approx 500000
SC now approx 270000
total SEQ now approx 2570000

Now assume 80000 net increase into qld for forseeable future and 80% of that into SE corner x 6.5 years = approx 416000

Total by 2011 = approx. 2986000 - rounded up to say 3 million.

The big issue however is the infrastructure needed @ that time and in the years beyond. By the mid 2020's the population in SEQ will be vastly bigger again. Governments must plan and execute agendas NOW in order to cater for this growth.

Just remember that the travelling time from Brisbane to the Gold Coast is about 45 minutes and Brisbane to the Sunshine Coast is about an hour. To me you can't even have these cities as one mega city - I think this is what gets to Melbournians/Victorians. We do not include Geelong in our population, no Ballarat, Bendigo etc. Just like Sydney does not include the 500 000 Newcastle in their population.

Just remember that the travelling time from Brisbane to the Gold Coast is about 45 minutes and Brisbane to the Sunshine Coast is about an hour. To me you can't even have these cities as one mega city - I think this is what gets to Melbournians/Victorians. We do not include Geelong in our population, no Ballarat, Bendigo etc. Just like Sydney does not include the 500 000 Newcastle in their population.


True,true - but 45 mins is nothing. To travel from some of Sydneys western suburbs to eastern would take longer. Note also that SEQ projections don't include Toowoomba - population over 100000, because there is a clear separation between it and the urban area of Brisbane - just as there is a clear separation between Melbourne and Geelong/Ballarat/Bendigo or Sydney/Newcastle.

The reason SEQ is frequently referred to as a growth corridor is that the major population centres are growing into each other very quickly - this is particularly so for Brisbane/Gold Coast and to a much lesser extent Brisbane/Sunshine Coast.

Don't sweat it too much man - the statistical corridor is just used as a point of reference - it's not meant to be (and shouldn't be) a pissing contest. We've all said it before - larger populations don't necessarily mean better lifestyles/cities.

Current projections in QR for passenger growth put major increases in ss coast to Brisbane CBD, and gold coast to Brisbane CBD. If not one city, then the coasts are still going to contribute significantly to increasing Brisbane's CBD.

In B4 Danubis. So how did this pan out aye?

Nobody cares about you, Lance.

lol. fuck off idiot!

i'm just sick of the same 3 threads being active... day after day after day, same shit in the same 3 threads. Lance knows. he does.

i do. no one can be farked posting new articles in this sub-forum anymore. the same threads will rise back to the top. nice effort though. i enjoyed jumping back to the last page to find a duplicate story.