Negde krajem aprila meseca, par prijatelja i ja smo dosli do lude ideje da konacno vidimo zapadnu obalu Kanade, tj. gradove poput Vankuvera, Viktorije i popularno, sada vec Olimpijsko, skijaliste/odmaraliste Visler.

Razmatrali smo vise opcija sto se prevoza tice, od aviona do licnog prevoza (hteli smo da rentamo nekakav dzip) ali na kraju smo se ipak odlucili za popularni voz nazvan - "The Canadian" - sa svojih 4,466 kilometara od Toronta do Vankuvera, to je druga po duzini zeleznicka trasa posle ruske Trans-sibirske pruge.

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Voz polazi u deset uvece tri puta nedeljno (utorkom, cetvrtkom i subotom) sa Union stanice u Torontu:

Par mojih slika od ranije, cisto da vam docaram ako vec niste videli - ovaj put je bio mrkli mrak pa nisam nista slikao:

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Dakle, nakon prve burne noci u vozu, u ranu zoru smo se probudili u nekom malo mestu par stotina kilometara severno od Toronta:

Prvi utisak je da je nas voz jako jako dugacak - skoro 40 vagona, dve lokomotive, dva vagona-restorana, cetiri vagona za razgledavanje, itd, itd...eh, samo kad se setim da su ne bas tako davno ovakve kompozicije krstarile i barskom prugom:(

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Kvalitet slika ovog dela reportaze nije bas nesto - slikanje iza duplih i zamagljenih (prljavih? :bash: ) prozora voza u pokretu nije bas lako:(

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Nakon nekih 6-7 sati non-stop putovanja, priblizavamo se polako sledecoj stanici u gradicu Foleyet ... izlazimo da protegnemo noge i slicno...

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Nakon prelepih jezera i suma severnog Ontarija, prelezamo polako u provinciju Manitobu, ciji krajolik veoma podseca na vojvodjanske ravnice...

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Opa, CS! Fenomenalan put!

Postepeno se primicemo glavnom i ujedno najvecem gradu Manitobe, Vinipegu.

Grad se gotovo nalazi na polovini puta od Vankuvera do Toronta tako da ce se voz ovde zadrzati nekih cetiri-pet sati, tokom cega ce promeniti posadu, doliti gorivo (kao i sveze zalihe hrane i pica) i ukrcati nove putnike.

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Od Vinipega, grada sa nekih ~650,000 stanovnika, sam iskreno ocekivao malo vise.


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Pet sati u sablasno praznom Vinipegu (ili "Winterpegu" kako ga moj kolega stalno zove:D ) smo iskoristili da kupimo neke namirnice kao i da obidjemo uzi centar.

Dve stvari su mi privukle najvise paznje - interesantan most koji deleju kao kombinacija podgorickog Milenijuma i bratislavskog "UFO" mosta kao i ogroman i veoma skup muzej ljudskih prava (kako tipicno kanadski :D) koji je trenutno u izgradnji:

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Lokalni Indijanac...posto mu nisam hteo dati pare za pice rece ajde, barem me slikaj:)

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Sediste provincijske Vlade Manitobe...

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Ovde smo vec malo zurili nazad na stanicu tako da nisam stigao da se raspitam o cemu se ovde radi...ocigledno je da je nekad Vinipeg imao tramvaje:

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Ukrcavamo se u voz i napustamo Vinipeg...

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Nadam se da vam je bilo interesantno - nastavak sutra:cheers:

Odlična reportaža Miloše! :applause:

Vinipeg izgleda brutalistički, mogu samo da zamislim kako je tamo zimi. :runaway:

Čekamo Saskatun. :cool:

pa i ja sam razocaran vinipegom. mora da si bio tamo za vikend posto izgleda nenormalno prazno? da ima vise svijeta na ulicama, vjerovatno bi impresija bila potopuno drugacija
standardno sam ocekivao izuzetno cist grad, sto i jeste, mozda malo vise zelenila. ipak nije ni primac vankuveru, torontu ili victoriji

:drool: :drool: E to se traži :cheers2::master::master:

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW! Fenomenalno! Meni se Winnipeg bas dopada a i taj landscape Kanade izgleda izuzetno mocno!

:applause:

Deo do Manitobe veoma podseca na evropski deo Rusije

^^
Upravo tako, a i ne zove se džabe prerija. ;)

E ovo se zove put i reportaža. Naklon do poda, Krejzi. :cheers:

ne škrtari na fotkama i utiscima.


što se tiče Vinipega, baš je onakav kakvim sam ga zamišljao.:) tipična kasaba izgrađena kako je već sjevernoamarički Zapad 'osvajan', a poslije se igrom slučaja razvijala kao jedini kakav-takav centar unutar kanadske provincije sa odoka povučenim granicama. znam par ljudi koji su u Vinipegu proveli neko vrijeme i vrlo brzo su pobjegli glavom bez obzira. ovaj jedan je otišao u Kičener gdje se maltene osjećao kao u Parizu nakon Vinipega.:)

možda da napišeš, Krejzi, koji je bio dan u nedelji i koje doba dana kad si proveo ta 4 sata u Vinipegu, možda to malo pojasni ovu pustinju i manjak života na ulicama. mada imam neki hunch da je ovo uobičajena slika Vinipega bilo kog dana u bilo koje vrijeme.

ajmo sad Saskačevan, mogu tu tek da zamislim gradove.:)

Koliko se secam, voz je u Vinipeg stigao u subotu, u osam sati ujutru a napustili smo grad oko podne.

Nego, da nastavimo...sad cu mozda malo da vas udavim slikama prerije ali bice bolje nakon Edmontona:)

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Interesantna dolina nastala tokom povlacanja leda nakon zadnjeg ledenog doba... njene cari ove slike ne mogu nikako da prenesu...

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Ukrajinska crkva
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Zalazak sunca iz vagona...moracu da razocaram sve koji ocekuju da vide Saskacevan, kroz tu provinciju smo izgleda projurili nocu tako da nista nisam slikao. Sledece jutro, probudili smo se u Edmontonu, glavnom gradu naftom-bogate Alberte, koji takodje nismo imali priliku da vidimo zato sto je stanica smestena negde na periferiji grada. Ipak, videcete skajlajn grada...


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Dobrodosli u Edmonton...

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U Edmontonu smo proveli svega sat vremena... to vreme smo iskoristli da malo prosetamo okolo i kupimo par stvari na stanici. U isto vreme, nas voz je dobio jos jedan vagon, tkzv. "Panorama" vagon za razgledanje najnovije generacije.

Mozete ga videti ovde, na samom kraju:

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Ukrcavamo se nazad u voz i nastavljamo dalje, prema Britanskoj Kolumbiji i Vankuveru...

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U Edmontonu smo proveli svega sat vremena... to vreme smo iskoristli da malo prosetamo okolo i kupimo par stvari na stanici. U isto vreme, nas voz je dobio jos jedan vagon, tkzv. "Panorama" vagon za razgledanje najnovije generacije.

Mozete ga videti ovde, na samom kraju:

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E ovo je fotka i predio, a ne tamo neke 2D fotke prerije :lol: Šalim se, naravno, ovo samo CG progovara iz mene :D

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E ovo je fotka i predio, a ne tamo neke 2D fotke prerije :lol: Šalim se, naravno, ovo samo CG progovara iz mene :D

Hehe, strpljenja molim, stizemo mi polako i do tih "3D" predela;)

Nakon tri dana putovanja, na horizontu se konacno vide prvi obrisi spektakularnih Roki planina (Rocky mountains)

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^^
Upravo tako, a i ne zove se džabe prerija. ;)

Ja sam mislio na ovaj deo do Manitobe sa sumama cetinara i breze, rekama i jezerima. A sto se tice prerije to je valjda od Manitobe a ekvivalent mu je stepa ali to je vec azijski deo Rusije i Kazahstan.

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Evo ovo izbliza

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or not :D

Stizemo u gradic Jasper, poznato turisticko mesto na samoj granici izmedju Alberte i Britanske Kolumbije....tu cemo se zadrzati oko sat i po vremena:

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Kojom se brzinom krece ovaj voz?

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Kratka pus-pauza na jednoj maloj stanici...za divno cudo, pri stanici je i veoma dobro snabdevena "general store" - radnja gde prodaju sve, od igle do lokomotive:D

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Kojom se brzinom krece ovaj voz?

Zavisi od deonice. Voz je svakako sposoban za brzine do 160 kilometara na sat i zaista, jedan lik koji je kod sebe imao GPS je u jednom trenutku izmerio brzinu od oko ~145 kilometara na sat. Ipak, brzina voza je vise podredjena putnicima tj. razgledanju prirode, tako da je retko kad dostizao takve brzine. Brzina se dakle uglavno kretala izmedju 80-100km na sat.

Brze nego bilo sta na nasim prugama:ohno:

E ovo se zove reportaza! Kada ti od skrolovanja otpadne kaziprst. Somi, opravdao si nick. Svaka cast na reportazi. :cheers2:

Ma ovo je ludilo!!!! Gde ste ljudi nagrnuli!?!?...Prvo Kanada uzduz i popreko a onaj u drugoj Colorado....ocete da poludim bre!?!??!?! TO HOCETE!!!!?!?!!!!!! JEL!?!? JEL!? JEL!??!?!

^^hahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahaha

steta za edmonton, na slikama koje sam gledao po internetu djelovao je kao mnogo lijep grad. vjerovatno ljepse izgleda ljeti kad vegetacija buja

a da te pitam, postoje li brzi vozovi na toj relaciji? tri dana putovanja vozom mi djeluje previse ma kako lijepa priroda bila

Dok CS ne odgovori - čisto sumnjam da postoji išta brže jer pruga nije elektrifikovana ;)

KM svaka cast na reportazi i zelji da nam docaras nedodjije i zabiti Kanade. Reportaza je za 10.
Moji utisci:
1. dio s onim sumamam i brezuljicma je simpatican, ali vjerovatno je nakon odredjenog vremena dosadan
2. dio je od pocetka do kraja dosadan
3. dio s planinama je super, taj gradic na slikama podsjeca na Svicarsku ili neko mondensko alpsko skijaliste.
Generalno sve me podsjeca na neku blijedu kopiju Norveske. Izuzetno negativno sam iznenadjen koliko djeluje sve zapusteno i sirotinjski van gradova, sva sela su mi kao iz najgorih americkih hororo filmova, kuce dascare poluraspadnutog stanja, stara auta, u dvoristima po 3 skoljke. Jako depresivno i ruzno. Mislio sam da takvi prizori u Kanadi nisu toliko cesti.
Sve u svemu nikad ne bih volio zivjeti tu.

Zalazak sunca iz vagona...moracu da razocaram sve koji ocekuju da vide Saskacevan, kroz tu provinciju smo izgleda projurili nocu tako da nista nisam slikao. Sledece jutro, probudili smo se u Edmontonu, glavnom gradu naftom-bogate Alberte, koji takodje nismo imali priliku da vidimo zato sto je stanica smestena negde na periferiji grada. Ipak, videcete skajlajn grada...

Ovo je SK:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=57100801&postcount=48

+ što se puno Ukrajinaca (i Rusina iz Vojvodine) doselilo tamo a ti si uslikao i ukrajinsku crkvu.

Generalno sve me podsjeca na neku blijedu kopiju Norveske. Izuzetno negativno sam iznenadjen koliko djeluje sve zapusteno i sirotinjski van gradova, sva sela su mi kao iz najgorih americkih hororo filmova, kuce dascare pluraspadnutog tipa, stara auta, u dvoristima po 3 skoljke auta. Jako depresivno i ruzno. Mislio sam da takvi prizori u Kaadi nisu toliko cesti.
Sve u svemu nikad ne bih volio zivjeti tu.

Hmmm....vidi ja ne znam kako je u Kanadi posto nazalost jos nisam bio tamo, ali zato dobro znam kako je u nekim delovima Geneve, znaci Tower Hamlets (oficijalno najsiromasniji deo EU istoimene londonske opštine) je majka urednosti i standarda naspram nekih delova tog grada.

Svaka cast CS, odlicna reportaza.

Mozda nisam ni video, ali koliko si dugo putovao do Vankuvera?

Ma ovo je ludilo!!!! Gde ste ljudi nagrnuli!?!?...Prvo Kanada uzduz i popreko a onaj u drugoj Colorado....ocete da poludim bre!?!??!?! TO HOCETE!!!!?!?!!!!!! JEL!?!? JEL!? JEL!??!?!

Heh...onda bolje da ne postavaljam reportazu iz samog Vankuvera, da ne bude nekakvih nezeljenih posledica po tvoje zdravlje, Storm:)

^^hahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahaha

steta za edmonton, na slikama koje sam gledao po internetu djelovao je kao mnogo lijep grad. vjerovatno ljepse izgleda ljeti kad vegetacija buja

a da te pitam, postoje li brzi vozovi na toj relaciji? tri dana putovanja vozom mi djeluje previse ma kako lijepa priroda bila

Pa ovaj voz je sam po sebi prilicno brz - mi smo presli Kanadu tj. preko 4000 kilometara za svega tri dana. Na ovoj relaciji jos dugo vremena nece biti potrebe za nesto brze.
Ako u Kanadi ikad bude pravih brzih vozova, to ce biti na tkzv. Windsor-Quebec korodiru, duz koga zivi nekih 18 miliona ljudi.

Svaka cast CS, odlicna reportaza.

Mozda nisam ni video, ali koliko si dugo putovao do Vankuvera?

Hvala, Sena:)
Putovanje je trajalo oko tri dana i cetiri noci.

Zadnja etapa putovanja...polako se spustamo do Vankuvera:

Rano jutro je...

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Metro-most...:)

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Ukleta lokomotiva 6407...svega dva dana pre nego sto smo mi krenuli put Vankuvera, isti voz na relaciji Toronto-Vankuver je tokom snezne mecave u Edmontonu na pruznom prelazu naleteo na automobil i usmrtio citavu porodicu :(

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Stanica u Vankuveru:

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Da predstavim malo unutrasnjost voza....nisam puno slikao, ne znam zasto. Trebao sam bar osoblje da slikam, bilo je dosta lepih devojaka koje su samo trcale oko nas, da nam ucine put sto ugodnijim:D

Ovo je jedan od vagona ekonomske ili kako to oni zovu - "Comfort" klase gde smo mi bili. Nas vagon je bio polu-prazan tako da smo se prilicno rasirili po ovim sedistima. Mesta je dakle bilo vise nego dovoljno, jedini problem je bio sa spavanjem.

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Ovo zovu "lounge car" - tu smo se skupljali uvece, igrali karte i slicno:

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Vagon-restoran - iako smo imali dobar plan da se uglavnom hranimo jeftinim namirnicama koje smo kupovali u supermarketima duz puta, nije nam uspelo.
Ja sam dakle licno potrosio izmedju $250-300 tokom tri dana putovanja u ovom vagonu:doh:

Bilo kako bilo, svidelo mi se sto forsiraju lokalne kanadske specijalitete i pica (imali su solidan izbor piva iz raznih mikro-pivara)

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Taman sam hteo da te pitam za unutrasnjost vozova. Mislio sam da ima jos nekih vidova zabave, makar bi covek u Severnoj Americi ocekivao televizore :laugh:

Cudno da na takvoj relaciji ne saobraca voz sa kupeima ili makar spavaca kola. Ne znam kako to izgleda spavati 4 noci u stolici a i ne deluje da su u najboljem stanju.

^^voz bas djeluje rustikalno ili staromodno unutra. Kao iz 70ih ili najbolju ruku 80ih.

Inace ovo djeluje kao beba od Hong Konga :)

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Transsib

prva klasa

http://glavpoezdrus.ru/up/photos/album/train2/1klass_kupe_2010.jpg

druga klasa

http://glavpoezdrus.ru/up/photos/album/train2/61_4440kupe.jpg

treca klasa

http://glavpoezdrus.ru/up/photos/album/train2/plazkart09.jpg


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http://mirsovetov.ru/images/701/11.jpg


panorame http://demo.neq4.ru/rzd/

ruski vozovi stvarno izgleda klasa naspram kanadskih. slazem se sa prethodnim komentarima, malo sam razocaran, ocekivao sam mnogo bolje.

Heh...onda bolje da ne postavaljam reportazu iz samog Vankuvera, da ne bude nekakvih nezeljenih posledica po tvoje zdravlje, Storm:)

Ma postavi slobodno, sad kad sam vec nacet nek bude do kraja :lol::lol::lol:

Winnipeg na pola slika izgleda kao posle napada zombija...

Inace super slike :) Ali me stvarno cudi to da nemaju spavaca kola... 3 dana u stolici...vala ne bi... i za te pare koje si puk'o na restoran si mogao da letis :D