PRESIDENT Jakaya Kikwete's 2005 election slogan - better life for all Tanzanians - is now being realized in deeds following the signing of an agreement to construct a multi-billion shilling project in Dar es Salaam.

The long-awaited project to be executed at Mchikichini in Ilala District follows an agreement between the Ilala Municipal Council, the National Social Security Fund (NSSF) and a Malaysia-based Symmetric Link SBN BHD company.

"For a long time, the Ilala Municipal Council authorities have been looking for an investor to put up a huge multi-use structure at Mchikichini but those efforts have been in vain," says the Ilala Municipal Council Mayor Abuu Jumaa.

He adds: "But today we can breathe with a sigh of relief following the partnership between the NSSF and the Symmetric Link firm from Malaysia, the project is now on the cards and it will soon be realized."

Under the project, which will make Mchikichini look like a development village, there will be housing for accommodating 400 residents at the project area, over 1,600 flats covering 50 floors and office structures covering 25 floors and international standard hotels covering another 50 floors.

According to the project's implementation programme, there will also be medium level hotels in 10 floors, a modern shopping arcade covering three floors and elegant office for the Ilala municipal authorities covering 40 floors.

Architectural designs and artistic impressions for the project has already been drawn out indicating that initial construction stages will involve building of two flats with 17 floors each, with a total number of 480 houses.

The project, the first of its kind to be implemented in Tanzania, addresses the issue of affordable housing for majority poor Tanzanians and provision of special commercial services that were initially available in the central business district.

"This huge investment which we have been looking for a long time will turn Ilala municipality into a beehive of business activities," says Mayor Jumaa wearing a broad smile.

"The first beneficiaries of the project will be the 400 residents in the area," says the mayor, adding that some of the residents will be paid handsome amounts for compensation as they will be required to give way for the project.

He says construction will be done in phases with the first phase involving construction of residential houses, to be followed by the second phase covering commercial structures such as offices and hotels.

"Implementation of the project will take four to five years before completion," says the mayor, adding that all the hotels and offices to be constructed at the area will be sold or rented to Tanzanians.

He adds: "Definitely this project is going to stimulate development not only for Ilala but for the entire country, as it will attract businesses from the country's four corners."

The project will help to showcase the state-of-the-art houses, hotel structures and office accommodation in addition to creating employment to majority young Tanzanians and it will also act as a source of revenue for the government.

"The entire project area will not look the same when implementation of the project is completed," says Mahamed Hussein, a representative of the Malaysian firm.

The new project will improve Dar es Salaam's skyline with its new high-rise buildings making it the largest city in Tanzania and it is the country's important economic centre.

Tanzan, What's the cost of this project? It sounds really big.

3 floor- shopping mall
17 floor-low income flats
20 floor-middle income flats
25 floor-high income flats
10 floor-3*hotel
35 floor-office towers
40 floor-Ilala municipal tower
50 floor-5*hotel & office tower

Tanzan, What's the cost of this project? It sounds really big

I have not got the figures yet but once i get hold of it...i will share. I will also post renders for it. Its a massive project for sure.

http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae190/tanzan_2010/Jpeg.jpg

http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae190/tanzan_2010/Jpeg.jpg

tanazania will shine

^^i love it, wacha ikulane :cheers::cheers:

Holy shit. The Gentle is waking up. :bananana2:

The rest will only see dust.

After Angolan magic , Its Tanzania.

Thanks a lot Tanzan, you doing a fantastic work.

nice ill wait for the construction pictures bt excellent project hope it comes thru

its about time this city got some skyscrapers. GO TANZANIA

50 floors??

Thats high. That higher the Nairobis tallest tower (the grey one which i have forgotten the name)

Also goin to be taller that Gare centrale Kinshasa.

WOW

50 floors??

Thats high. That higher the Nairobis tallest tower (the grey one which i have forgotten the name)

Also goin to be taller that Gare centrale Kinshasa.

WOW

Well Nairobi IS Planing to buld a 60 floor tower. But This project is very nice, plus it's approved which gives it more credit. I was hoping Tanzania would get at least ONE Skyscraper.

I recently visited NSSF pavillon at SabaSaba grounds...this project was highlight of the show and are serious about it. I will show some updated photos.

http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae190/tanzan_2010/DSC03275.jpg

Hopefully this will come to fruition.

That's a massive project, but I hope they rework the designs. Those renders have got me worried for the final result.

Africa is truely rising, Go Tanzania.

woah that's some nasty tiger print stuff going on the buildings....hope it comes through even half of it would be great

hsark woah that's some nasty tiger print stuff going on the buildings....hope it comes through even half of it would be great

I have been trying to figure out the same thing...what material is that?

I guess this will be the 3* Hotel
http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae190/tanzan_2010/DSC03278.jpg

phase one-apartment block planned to start construction this year.

http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae190/tanzan_2010/DSC03078.jpg

http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae190/tanzan_2010/DSC03080.jpg

front side
http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae190/tanzan_2010/DSC03085.jpg

I wonder what material they will use for that leopald design on the buildings!
http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae190/tanzan_2010/DSC03090.jpg

http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae190/tanzan_2010/DSC03091.jpg

http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae190/tanzan_2010/DSC03093.jpg

http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae190/tanzan_2010/DSC03092.jpg

I wonder what material they will use for that leopald design on the buildings!
http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae190/tanzan_2010/DSC03090.jpg

http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae190/tanzan_2010/DSC03091.jpg

http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae190/tanzan_2010/DSC03093.jpg

http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae190/tanzan_2010/DSC03092.jpg

thats a strange design for a building . leopard skins design but still this is going to be a great project.

normally such huge projects design changes during construction and you find the completed building does not look the same as proposed on paper.

normally such huge projects design changes during construction and you find the completed building does not look the same as proposed on paper.

thats true i guess . is there any new prjects in mwanza and arusha.

NSSF to build apartments in Mchikichini

By LUDOVICK KAZOKA, 16th October 2010

THE National Social Security Fund (NSSF) is expected to further invest in real estate by constructing residential apartments at Mchikichini Area in Dar es Salaam.

This was said by the Fund’s head of research and plans, Mr Gerald Sondo, during a one-day seminar for journalists to brief them on NSSF’s contribution to the economic development. He said the project would start before the end of this year.
“The aim of investment is to increase the benefit of every shilling deposited by our customers and meet the administrative expenses,” he said. Mr Sondo said investment by the NSSF had tremendously contributed to the socio-economic development.

The Fund’s projects had provided the people with employment and social services, he observed. He noted that as the Fund had both short and long term benefits. The later had to be invested to preserve the value of money deposited by the customers in order to provide them with satisfactory benefits.

Mr Sondo also said the Fund planned to embark on a house loan plan through which customers would be able to get a loan for house construction. The real estate projects by NSSF had unraveled the problem of residence to government officers.

He added that the Fund planned to invest in the Kigamboni Bridge project to ease transport. The Fund would benefit from the vehicles fees which would be charged for using the bridge, he said.

Who can one contact to get involved in these projects?

you can get in touch with the National Social Security Fund of Tanzania.

Awesome.
Thanks Tanzan.

Who can one contact to get involved in these projects?

Just curious. Do you own a construction firm?

Well I dont own a construction firm, but, I work for a QS firm.

Why?

I just find it really amazing that Tanzania is like so far advanced, looking at the photos that Tanzan puts up, it is really amazing.

I was also wondering besides the NSSF in Tanzania, who else can one contact to get involved or bid for projects?

Could you, anyone of your, perhaps, forward a few Architects, Engineers, Contractors as well as other QS firms to me, that I could contact?

We really would be grateful for the assistance.

Nice project, the buildings would look better without the giraffe skin pattern, in my opinion.

http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae190/tanzan_2010/MCHIKICHI.jpg:banana:

I'm about to cry because I never thought in a million years that my hometown would even be looking forward to such a new and upscale look. Even more reason for me to leave this American dump. I am so homesick right now.

I'm about to cry because I never thought in a million years that my hometown would even be looking forward to such a new and upscale look. Even more reason for me to leave this American dump. I am so homesick right now.

no place like home!

If Tanzania was able to build something like a 70-80 storey skyscraper, I think I would piss in my pants. If that ever happens within the next 20 years, I want to document every single moment of the construction from start to finish.

Just a matter of time...20 years is way too far...I would put it within 10 years. Word on the street is one guy wants to put up a 60 storey and you know people in DSM talk then turns out to be true most of the time.

One thing got me to thinking that we talk way too much about DAR and rarely talk about other smaller cities like Arusha, Mwanza, and Dodoma. Tanzan, do u know of any construction projects going on in these cities?

Tanzan, do you have any more information about the Kigamboni Bridge project? Now that is one project that I really want to see get done. It would ease congestion on Dar's side and maybe upon bridge completion, people will start to develop Kigamboni.

NSSF is the lead project developer for Kigamboni Bridge Project. Apparently some 6 companies have been short-listed...thats all what is known.maybe next year it will start. Soon as it starts...we will start a separate thread for it.

Okay, thank you for the info. One thing that bothered me is that the bridge is only going to be two lanes. What kind of bridge has two lanes? It's not going to be too helpful in easing traffic congestion. It might actually create traffic on the bridge. They should have invested more on the bridge so that it would be at least 4 lanes.

You are right...originally it was designed 3 lanes but World Bank who are financiers said it is not necessary which pisses me off if you ask me!

So far it is still not clear wheather it would be double lane or triple lane.

You are right...originally it was designed 3 lanes but World Bank who are financiers said it is not necessary which pisses me off if you ask me!

So far it is still not clear wheather it would be double lane or triple lane.

But was it designed to be 3 lanes on each side or 3 lanes in total? It should be at least two lanes on each side if they claim they cannot afford a 4 lane bridge. That is a lie. They can afford it. They just don't wanna hand that kinda money to an African nation.

3 lanes on each side...that makes it 6 lanes in total

I think Tanzania deserves it's own forum. Can you start to lobby Tanzan?

Are there any plans of urban renewal in Dar es Salaam?

we have already started it...we need to build more tanzanian contributors first atleast 10 to make it more lively.

what do you mean urban renewal? Examples?

hello tanzan, do u know anything about dar es salaam Waterfront Project? i remember candian firm were interested to build, do u have any updates on this?

3 lanes on each side...that makes it 6 lanes in total

Yea Tanzan. That is definitely more realistic of what an average bridge looks like. But they were seriously thinking about building a bridge with a total of only 2 lanes. That is what pissed me off! How cheap can one get?

this project may start this year with phase 1.

http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae190/tanzan_2010/1-18.jpg

this is great!!!!

i cant wait to see how the buildings look like after they are completed

this is great!!!!

i cant wait to see how the buildings look like after they are completed

hohoooo!:nuts: I can't wait either! tallest tower will be 50+ storey

How do we go about lobbying for Tanzanian forum?

How do we go about lobbying for Tanzanian forum? upate ujumbe kwamba moderators hawataki Tanzania iwe visible! na unaweza kujua moderators ni nani bila kumung'unya by now! ujaribu tu kujiuliza kama Ethiopia na Sudan ambapo hamna construction projects nyingi kama Tanzania wana forum yao, je inakuwaje Tanzania haina!

English please my friend.

upate ujumbe kwamba moderators hawataki Tanzania iwe visible! na unaweza kujua moderators ni nani bila kumung'unya by now! ujaribu tu kujiuliza kama Ethiopia na Sudan ambapo hamna construction projects nyingi kama Tanzania wana forum yao, je inakuwaje Tanzania haina!

quit with the politics.

it is not just about projects(which TZ has) it is also about having atleast 10 tanzanian forumers(which idk if you have that or not) and how active they are(the TZ forumers on here so far are very active which is good)

if you ask me it is only a matter of weeks before tanzania gets its own forum. i do not know where you get the impression that the moderators do not want TZ to have its own forum(that is primitive thinking). plus i think some of the mods on here do not have the power to establish new forums.

just make sure that the right moderators are aware that you have met those three basic requirements and i am more than sure that you will get the forum.

and for your information ethiopia has waay more and bigger projects going on more than any other country in the greater eastern african region.

quit with the politics.

it is not just about projects(which TZ has) it is also about having atleast 10 tanzanian forumers(which idk if you have that or not) and how active they are(the TZ forumers on here so far are very active which is good)

if you ask me it is only a matter of weeks before tanzania gets its own forum. i do not know where you get the impression that the moderators do not want TZ to have its own forum(that is primitive thinking). plus i think some of the mods on here do not have the power to establish new forums.

just make sure that the right moderators are aware that you have met those three basic requirements and i am more than sure that you will get the forum.

and for your information ethiopia has waay more and bigger projects going on more than any other country in the greater eastern african region.

well as far as i know right now Uganda can at least claim that otherwise Ethiopia has also discovered oil or other natural resources! here i talk of projects that worth billions of US$! may be tell me some! you help me to know that by proving your statement.. today Tanzania has anounced US$ 3 billion worth of coal and iron ore (http://af.reuters.com/article/investingNews/idAFJOE70H0H920110118) just two months after signing a US$ 7 billion of gas commercialization project in the South (http://www.dailynews.co.tz/business/?n=10264&cat=business) and more is to come an aluminium smelter project worth of US $4 billion is on draft! forgetting a number of cement factories cropping up in the south and BG just had oil discoveries on two offshore blocks according to bloomberg news (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/print/2011-01-13/afren-s-wells-target-900-million-barrels-of-oil-in-east-africa.html) this is besides numerous gold mining investments that come up everytime putting aside those for Uranium, platinum, cobalt, coltan, nobidium, diamond and soda ash that are to start 2012-2015! sasa kama kuna projects zaidi ya hizo zitaje hapa na uache kelele! Only Uganda can argue in the region right now as far as i know cause of oil! try to read here http://www.africaintelligence.com/aif/channel/country/TANZANIA to see all the projects in Africa

NB: Energy investments
http://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/business/Work%20begins%20on%20the%20Iringa%20Shinyanga%20power%20line/-/2560/1090464/-/uwcbthz/-/index.html
http://af.reuters.com/article/topNews/idAFJOE6B006I20101201

upate ujumbe kwamba moderators hawataki Tanzania iwe visible! na unaweza kujua moderators ni nani bila kumung'unya by now! ujaribu tu kujiuliza kama Ethiopia na Sudan ambapo hamna construction projects nyingi kama Tanzania wana forum yao, je inakuwaje Tanzania haina!

It is not true bro! on the contrary many want Tanzanian forum...Look even Pule has initiated to lobby for Tanzanian forum. thanks Pule.

Ethiopia has many construction projects just as Tanzania does.Sudan also.

we need more Tanzanian forumers.

It is not true bro! on the contrary many want Tanzanian forum...Look even Pule has initiated to lobby for Tanzanian forum. thanks Pule.

Ethiopia has many construction projects just as Tanzania does.Sudan also.

we need more Tanzanian forumers. ohk yo have a point on investments saw the ranking though i didn't see Sudan (http://www.tanzaniainvest.com/tanzania-economy/news/205-tanzania-investment-opportunities-rank-in-top-five)! but do you agree there are no 10 Tanzanian contributors so far?

well as far as i know right now Uganda can at least claim that otherwise Ethiopia has also discovered oil or other natural resources! here i talk of projects that worth billions of US$! may be tell me some! you help me to know that by proving your statement.. today Tanzania has anounced US$ 3 billion worth of coal and iron ore (http://af.reuters.com/article/investingNews/idAFJOE70H0H920110118) just two months after signing a US$ 7 billion of gas commercialization project in the South (http://www.dailynews.co.tz/business/?n=10264&cat=business) and more is to come an aluminium smelter project worth of US $4 billion is on draft! forgetting a number of cement factories cropping up in the south and BG just had oil discoveries on two offshore blocks according to bloomberg news (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/print/2011-01-13/afren-s-wells-target-900-million-barrels-of-oil-in-east-africa.html) this is besides numerous gold mining investments that come up everytime putting aside those for Uranium, platinum, cobalt, coltan, nobidium, diamond and soda ash that are to start 2012-2015! sasa kama kuna projects zaidi ya hizo zitaje hapa na uache kelele! Only Uganda can argue in the region right now as far as i know cause of oil! try to read here http://www.africaintelligence.com/aif/channel/country/TANZANIA to see all the projects in Africa

NB: Energy investments
http://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/business/Work%20begins%20on%20the%20Iringa%20Shinyanga%20power%20line/-/2560/1090464/-/uwcbthz/-/index.html
http://af.reuters.com/article/topNews/idAFJOE6B006I20101201

poa mkuu, tanzania has the largest investments in the region.

wewe unakichaa.

poa mkuu, tanzania has the largest investments in the region.

wewe unakichaa. argue intelligently, there are ranks on this! e.g. star of Africa 2009 survey said so... and showed top 5! there must be one for 2010 by now i hope! People calculate this and not a blah blah! And even the ones i showed you are serious investments if you look at them! nionyeshe single investment in Kenya worth a billion US$! labda kama mna deposits somewhere! BTW that is not a fact to even dare to contest! for your info. in the next 2 years no one can beat Tanzania in the region when it comes to investments on deposits apart from DRC and Uganda (esp. on oil discoveries which is btw highly anticipated at the coast of TZ)! Live with that fact dude..

argue intelligently, there are ranks on this! e.g. star of Africa 2009 survey said so... and showed top 5! there must be one for 2010 by now i hope! People calculate this and not a blah blah! And even the ones i showed you are serious investments if you look at them! nionyeshe single investment in Kenya worth a billion US$! labda kama mna deposits somewhere! BTW that is not a fact to even dare to contest! for your info. in the next 2 years no one can beat Tanzania in the region when it comes to investments on deposits apart from DRC and Uganda (esp. on oil discoveries which is btw highly anticipated at the coast of TZ)! Live with that fact dude..

are you bragging about investments in the mining sector:ohno: your little head must be nuts. for how long has tz been mining stuff esp tanzanite? and EXACTLY where has that money been going??? how has that tanzanite money benefited the common man???? you make a yourself look desperate when you start yapping about investment in mining sector

how about investment in things that are actually immediately are felt by the common man? have you checked the ethiopian investments in roads, energy, education, railways, housing, manufacturing parks etc the kind of investments that actually go straight to benefiting the common man??? on these kinds of investments none holds a candle to ethiopia in the greater eastern africa region.

you are yapping about mining contracts, while whatever is mined is exported overseas refined and sold back to you for a higher price and the paltry royalty money paid by the mining companies to the govt is eaten up by the few politically connected.

for you to beat your chest about mining contracts is just pathetic on your part.

are you bragging about investments in the mining sector:ohno: your little head must be nuts. for how long has tz been mining stuff esp tanzanite? and EXACTLY where has that money been going??? how has that tanzanite money benefited the common man???? you make a yourself look desperate when you start yapping about investment in mining sector

how about investment in things that are actually immediately are felt by the common man? have you checked the ethiopian investments in roads, energy, education, railways, housing, manufacturing parks etc the kind of investments that actually go straight to benefiting the common man??? on these kinds of investments none holds a candle to ethiopia in the greater eastern africa region.

you are yapping about mining contracts, while whatever is mined is exported overseas refined and sold back to you for a higher price and the paltry royalty money paid by the mining companies to the govt is eaten up by the few politically connected.

for you to beat your chest about mining contracts is just pathetic on your part.

The issue here is investments and when they rank countries, they don't look at whether come from mining or otherwise! BTW from mining there is a room to diversify our economy...think as a smart person and not political! when you were finger crossed as a country desperately waiting to discover oil/gas at Isiolo (http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate%20News/CNOOC%20quits%20Kenya%20oil%20drill%20and%20heads%20for%20Uganda/-/539550/1077918/-/view/printVersion/-/12pwt4kz/-/index.html) and end up hiting air you must have probably not thought of what you are bitterly pitting right now! BTW such mining activities bring permanent jobs and i am sure no sensible man can argue like the way you do...countries wishes to have deposits! and if not then technological advanced of which Kenya is not a part of! Live with that...and for your info. even the Tanzanite business has impacted on the economics of Arusha cause many youths are imployed there as artisan miners!

The issue here is investments and when they rank countries, they don't look at whether come from mining or otherwise!

the devil is always in the details geza.

so since they dont look where the invertments come from, the rest of us should not look? wewe ni kama kondoo, you will believe and follow anything you are told without using your own intellect to make your own analysis.

have fun braggin about investmnts in mining, if you were smarter you would think before you talk but apparently you dont.

tanzan i am sorry for soiling your thread. i am done

the devil is always in the details geza.

so since they dont look where the invertments come from, the rest of us should not look? wewe ni kama kondoo, you will believe and follow anything you are told without using your own intellect to make your own analysis.

have fun braggin about investmnts in mining, if you were smarter you would think before you talk but apparently you dont.
hata mama yako anaweza kuwa kondoo pia maana naona unakosa ustaarabu! i talk of economics here while you keep arguing about your fantacies, can you call yourself an intellectual? For your info. even the US started with mining, before diversifying so is Australia, the UAE, Brazil, South Africa and India! investments in mining activities come with infrastructure whether railway or port improvements or electricity or machinery! BTW, most inventions came from mining related activities even the modernization of Europe in 1900s! I am sure you wish to have deposits but unfortunately not blessed and even the agriculture you think you are good at, we still feed you and this year it is estimated around 5 million Kenyans will be in hunger! Sasa sijui unaongea nini wakati najua mta-cross border kuja kununua chakula!

http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae190/tanzan_2010/Jpeg.jpg

I recently visited NSSF pavillon at SabaSaba grounds...this project was highlight of the show and are serious about it. I will show some updated photos.

http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae190/tanzan_2010/DSC03275.jpg

this is massive :banana2: bring 'em out

tanzan i am sorry for soiling your thread. i am done




You should at all time understand that KENYAS, many KENYAS talk lot of shits about us, unlike you, you seem cooperative in here with us, thanks.

Again, since then, Kenyans regarded themselves as SUPERMEN/WOMEN, but in the wake of regional-economic competition, Kenyans are losing so fast and very seriously.

Bad enough, Kenyans are engaging in “hate speech” in many of Kenya’s media out-lets.

And when talking about bragging, we all know that, KENYAS are leading the Block with such an irrational trend.

Just read this shit from your Kenyan friend, and tell me, how we would feel with our “new and regional biggest and busiest AIRPORT current under-construction.

You are the cause……….lets think REGIONALLY……..even though its Kenya’s overly greediness that led to the collapse of the first regional-block.


Welcome homie, feel at home!!!! :tiasd::badnews:

tanzan i am sorry for soiling your thread. i am done




You should at all time understand that KENYAS, many KENYAS talk lot of shits about us, unlike you, you seem cooperative in here with us, thanks.

Again, since then, Kenyans regarded themselves as SUPERMEN/WOMEN, but in the wake of regional-economic competition, Kenyans are losing so fast and very seriously.

Bad enough, Kenyans are engaging in “hate speech” in many of Kenya’s media out-lets.

And when talking about bragging, we all know that, KENYAS are leading the Block with such an irrational trend.

Just read this shit from your Kenyan friend, and tell me, how we would feel with our “new and regional biggest and busiest AIRPORT current under-construction.

You are the cause……….lets think REGIONALLY……..even though its Kenya’s overly greediness that led to the collapse of the first regional-block.


Welcome homie, feel at home!!!! :tiasd::badnews:


Can julius nyerere international airport become a hub?

I know this might cause a furor amongst aviation zealots. Patriotism aside, let us face it. We are not yet near seeing Julius Nyerere International Airport (JNIA) become a hub. Not in the short to medium term. It is easier said than done. Last week we saw that there are certain conditions precedent to be attained for an airport to become a hub. These include the critical mass in terms of traffic movements through an airport and the seamless and effective connectivity in terms of time efficacy at the airport in question.

But equally important is the airport and ancillary infrastructure to support and sustain that particular hub. For instance, a hub airport needs enough runways to be able to handle as many aircraft ladings and take offs especially during the peak periods. That is why the planned second runway at JNIA is very important both in terms of capacity building and emergency cases. Also important are the terminal facilities that can cope with traffic volumes both passing and transiting through the hub. These include civil aviation navigational facilities, aircraft parking space, passenger and baggage handling facilities, resting lounges for transit passengers, duty free shopping space, aircraft ground handling facilities and a passenger user-friendly environment.

The ancillary infrastructure in this context include good and affordable hotel accommodation within the airport proximity, efficient road network and last but not least security. These are some of the factors which airlines take into account before taking a decision to fly to a destination. Normally an airline sends an advance team to access the situation on the ground and see if the chosen destination has adequate accommodation for crew and emergency situations in case of a technical layover for passengers. Easy accessibility to the airport also plays a crucial part in determining the suitability of the destination because traffic jams can be a menace as far as on-time-performance goes and of course security of the airport and the country in general can make or break the airport’s perception.

It is quite obvious from the foregoing that JNIA is still lacking in many respects. For example, suppose there was a windfall of traffic to double from the current through put traffic of 1.5 million passengers (ball pack figure) to 3.0 million per annum (currently JKIA stands at 4.5 million). JNIA would be completely choked up! The airport would suddenly become a sight of long queues at check-in and check-out counters let alone congestion within the passenger holding areas and crammed aircraft in a parking area. All these factors militate against JNIA maturing into hub at least in the short to medium term but more particularly because of its proximity to Jomo Kenyatta International Airport (JKIA) in Nairobi, due to the following factors.

First, JKIA is already a fully fledged hub of East Africa thanks to Kenya Airways (KQ) and other foreign international airlines. At the moment JKIA is like a powerful “magnet” attracting all sorts of traffic from almost all corners around Africa through Nairobi such that it will be a monumental task for JNIA to set up an equally competing “magnet” to counter JKIA. Theoretically yes, but practically it is a very tall order indeed. Let us remember that it has taken many years of dedication and perseverance for KQ ( and Ethiopian Airlines) to be where it is especially in terms of networking Africa. Also KQ’s strategic partnership with KLM Dutch Airlines was well thought out and carefully executed hence beneficial and a catalyst to KQ’s JKIA hub strategy.

Second, JKIA already has a head start in terms of attracting many foreign airlines into Nairobi as a destination compared to JNIA. Because Nairobi has much superior aviation facilitation than Dar Es Salaam, many airlines have already taken the decision to set camp in Nairobi instead of Dar Es Salaam. Examples abound. Air Mauritius, Air Madagascar, Bellview Air, Air Sudan, Virgin Atlantic Airways and Saudia all have online operations into JKIA and seem contented to feed into and out of Nairobi therefore it is very unlikely that they will change their position anytime soon unless something dramatic takes place. In addition JKIA has become a distribution centre for many cargo flights into East and Central Africa. Emirates Cargo, Ethiad Cargo, Air France Cargo, MK, Maersk Cargo, Lufthansa Cargo and Martinair have flights into JKIA which makes it a beehive of activities compared to JNIA and Entebbe International Airport (EIA). Let us take cognizance of the fact that it is a herculean task to convince even some of these airlines to relocate from Nairobi to Dar Es Salaam which is only a few air kilometers away. Not in the current state of our beloved city of the haven of piece.

Third, because of its economies of scale, JKIA is a cost competitive airport to operate from compared to its neighbouring airports of JNIA and EIA. Take for example the ground handling services. Whereas JKIA has more than three ground handling companies EIA has only two while JNIA has effectively one namely Swissport Company, a virtual monopoly with very little room for maneuver when it comes to pricing . Despite being on the Indian Ocean port of Dar Es Salaam, the price of jet fuel JNIA is USD 0.756 per litre (VAT exempted) compared to USD 0. 686 per litre found at JKIA right in the hinterland of Kenya! The same applies for airport departure taxes. Nairobi stands at USD 20 per ticket for an adult person while Dar Es Salaam is at USD 30 per ticket for an adult. This is not only a turn off to foreign airlines which may wish to start operations at JNIA but also a deterrent to would be passengers because JNIA is an expensive airport to start a flight journey from compared to JKIA.

Finally, Nairobi is endowed with many International organizations. For example, the headquarters of United Nations-HABITAT is based in Nairobi. HABITAT and many others coupled with the superior economy of Kenya give Nairobi City a big boast as opposed to neighbouring cities of Dar Es Salaam and Kampala in terms of traffic generation thus making JKIA a much more active and lively airport than its competitors. Admittedly these advantages are not about to go away. At least not in the near future. But of more importance is the fact that KQ as a national airline of Kenya has remained focused on making JKIA a hub of East Africa and the Government is firmly behind this strategy.

It is from this perspective that the writer is of the strong view point that JNIA has a very long way to go before it can really catch up with JKIA let alone provide formidable competition. To achieve this monumental task the economic planners need to take a holistic or multi-disciplinary approach encompassing aviation, infrastructure, tourism and leisure sectors. This can only be realized if everyone plays his part lest JNIA will continue to play second fiddle to JKIA for a very long time.

http://www.jamiiforums.com/business-and-economic-forum/50247-can-julius-nyerere-international-airport-become-a-hub.html

Byase Luteke

You should at all time understand that KENYAS, many KENYAS talk lot of shits about us, unlike you, you seem cooperative in here with us, thanks.

Again, since then, Kenyans regarded themselves as SUPERMEN/WOMEN, but in the wake of regional-economic competition, Kenyans are losing so fast and very seriously.

Bad enough, Kenyans are engaging in “hate speech” in many of Kenya’s media out-lets.

And when talking about bragging, we all know that, KENYAS are leading the Block with such an irrational trend.

Just read this shit from your Kenyan friend, and tell me, how we would feel with our “new and regional biggest and busiest AIRPORT current under-construction.

You are the cause……….lets think REGIONALLY……..even though its Kenya’s overly greediness that led to the collapse of the first regional-block.


Welcome homie, feel at home!!!! :tiasd::badnews:


Can julius nyerere international airport become a hub?

I know this might cause a furor amongst aviation zealots. Patriotism aside, let us face it. We are not yet near seeing Julius Nyerere International Airport (JNIA) become a hub. Not in the short to medium term. It is easier said than done. Last week we saw that there are certain conditions precedent to be attained for an airport to become a hub. These include the critical mass in terms of traffic movements through an airport and the seamless and effective connectivity in terms of time efficacy at the airport in question.

But equally important is the airport and ancillary infrastructure to support and sustain that particular hub. For instance, a hub airport needs enough runways to be able to handle as many aircraft ladings and take offs especially during the peak periods. That is why the planned second runway at JNIA is very important both in terms of capacity building and emergency cases. Also important are the terminal facilities that can cope with traffic volumes both passing and transiting through the hub. These include civil aviation navigational facilities, aircraft parking space, passenger and baggage handling facilities, resting lounges for transit passengers, duty free shopping space, aircraft ground handling facilities and a passenger user-friendly environment.

The ancillary infrastructure in this context include good and affordable hotel accommodation within the airport proximity, efficient road network and last but not least security. These are some of the factors which airlines take into account before taking a decision to fly to a destination. Normally an airline sends an advance team to access the situation on the ground and see if the chosen destination has adequate accommodation for crew and emergency situations in case of a technical layover for passengers. Easy accessibility to the airport also plays a crucial part in determining the suitability of the destination because traffic jams can be a menace as far as on-time-performance goes and of course security of the airport and the country in general can make or break the airport’s perception.

It is quite obvious from the foregoing that JNIA is still lacking in many respects. For example, suppose there was a windfall of traffic to double from the current through put traffic of 1.5 million passengers (ball pack figure) to 3.0 million per annum (currently JKIA stands at 4.5 million). JNIA would be completely choked up! The airport would suddenly become a sight of long queues at check-in and check-out counters let alone congestion within the passenger holding areas and crammed aircraft in a parking area. All these factors militate against JNIA maturing into hub at least in the short to medium term but more particularly because of its proximity to Jomo Kenyatta International Airport (JKIA) in Nairobi, due to the following factors.

First, JKIA is already a fully fledged hub of East Africa thanks to Kenya Airways (KQ) and other foreign international airlines. At the moment JKIA is like a powerful “magnet” attracting all sorts of traffic from almost all corners around Africa through Nairobi such that it will be a monumental task for JNIA to set up an equally competing “magnet” to counter JKIA. Theoretically yes, but practically it is a very tall order indeed. Let us remember that it has taken many years of dedication and perseverance for KQ ( and Ethiopian Airlines) to be where it is especially in terms of networking Africa. Also KQ’s strategic partnership with KLM Dutch Airlines was well thought out and carefully executed hence beneficial and a catalyst to KQ’s JKIA hub strategy.

Second, JKIA already has a head start in terms of attracting many foreign airlines into Nairobi as a destination compared to JNIA. Because Nairobi has much superior aviation facilitation than Dar Es Salaam, many airlines have already taken the decision to set camp in Nairobi instead of Dar Es Salaam. Examples abound. Air Mauritius, Air Madagascar, Bellview Air, Air Sudan, Virgin Atlantic Airways and Saudia all have online operations into JKIA and seem contented to feed into and out of Nairobi therefore it is very unlikely that they will change their position anytime soon unless something dramatic takes place. In addition JKIA has become a distribution centre for many cargo flights into East and Central Africa. Emirates Cargo, Ethiad Cargo, Air France Cargo, MK, Maersk Cargo, Lufthansa Cargo and Martinair have flights into JKIA which makes it a beehive of activities compared to JNIA and Entebbe International Airport (EIA). Let us take cognizance of the fact that it is a herculean task to convince even some of these airlines to relocate from Nairobi to Dar Es Salaam which is only a few air kilometers away. Not in the current state of our beloved city of the haven of piece.

Third, because of its economies of scale, JKIA is a cost competitive airport to operate from compared to its neighbouring airports of JNIA and EIA. Take for example the ground handling services. Whereas JKIA has more than three ground handling companies EIA has only two while JNIA has effectively one namely Swissport Company, a virtual monopoly with very little room for maneuver when it comes to pricing . Despite being on the Indian Ocean port of Dar Es Salaam, the price of jet fuel JNIA is USD 0.756 per litre (VAT exempted) compared to USD 0. 686 per litre found at JKIA right in the hinterland of Kenya! The same applies for airport departure taxes. Nairobi stands at USD 20 per ticket for an adult person while Dar Es Salaam is at USD 30 per ticket for an adult. This is not only a turn off to foreign airlines which may wish to start operations at JNIA but also a deterrent to would be passengers because JNIA is an expensive airport to start a flight journey from compared to JKIA.

Finally, Nairobi is endowed with many International organizations. For example, the headquarters of United Nations-HABITAT is based in Nairobi. HABITAT and many others coupled with the superior economy of Kenya give Nairobi City a big boast as opposed to neighbouring cities of Dar Es Salaam and Kampala in terms of traffic generation thus making JKIA a much more active and lively airport than its competitors. Admittedly these advantages are not about to go away. At least not in the near future. But of more importance is the fact that KQ as a national airline of Kenya has remained focused on making JKIA a hub of East Africa and the Government is firmly behind this strategy.

It is from this perspective that the writer is of the strong view point that JNIA has a very long way to go before it can really catch up with JKIA let alone provide formidable competition. To achieve this monumental task the economic planners need to take a holistic or multi-disciplinary approach encompassing aviation, infrastructure, tourism and leisure sectors. This can only be realized if everyone plays his part lest JNIA will continue to play second fiddle to JKIA for a very long time.

http://www.jamiiforums.com/business-and-economic-forum/50247-can-julius-nyerere-international-airport-become-a-hub.html

Byase Luteke Mkuu today's economy doesn't look at the existence of lets say UN headquarters but the number of passengers! Tanzania can still manage to make Dar a hub even without having them just making the airport more friendly and improving the infrastructure! other issues are irrelevant

Mark, reading what you wrote about what would need to be changed at JNIA is very important information; information that an airline fanatic like me didn't even know about. And you are indeed right. If we want our beloved Dar es Salaam to be not only a Haven of Peace, but a HUB of Peace for East Africa, then we would indeed have a long way to go.

And you are right that all areas would have to be involved from tourism to the government. The airport would need all the support it could get. Swissport is a crappy company in my opinion and the way they do things in JNIA is just unacceptable. We deserve better and we should work harder to make our airport not only the best in E. Africa, but a world-class airport.

Most importantly is the long distance between JNIA and City Centre. If they were smart, people would start building hotels in the areas surrounding the airport. Most international airports worldwide are surrounded by tons and tons of hotels when the passenger leaves the airport. This is especially true in the some of the largest airports in the world. If JNIA wants to attract more airlines and more passengers, they would have to start convincing hotels to build in that area as well. This would turn into a domino effect where-as development would start to boom in the area surrounding the airport. People then wouldn't have to go to City Centre to enjoy the city.

Last but not least, INFRASTRUCTURE is everything!!! One of the major problem at JNIA is that there is no air-conditioning. It is important that we get that fixed, and this is when reliable electricity comes in. Extensions on the roads leading to the airport comes in hand as it would help to decongest the current roads which are too small for the traffic that we have in Dar.

If there are things I left out, feel free to add onto what I've already said.

Hongera Bongo!:) Sijui kwa nini hawataki kujenga majengo ya orofa mengi Nairobi:( !

Very interesting read, i fully agree with what you have written. I, as a Tanzanian, would like JNIA to compete with JKIA but quite frankly it can't happen in the short term.

Construction of a new terminal is currently underway which means an increase in passenger traffic. TAA (Tanzania Airport Authority) seem to have in under control but i would like to say KIA (Kilimanjaro International Airport) is slowly dying because of the success of JKIA.

What we need is a national airline that would compete with KQ while the government gives out incentives for international airlines to land in Dar.

If TAA doesn't not pull up its socks JKIA will be East Africa's hub for many more years.



….all things are in a right place, coz base to the aviation blueprint in the country, in 7 to 13yrs from now we can beat KQ.

Tanzania: Govt - Aviation Plan Will Be Global Envy.
http://allafrica.com/stories/201012080753.html

….and in terms of regional Hub, you can just check below……….also mind you, the down link was published in Kenya, by a Kenyan newspaper. Apart from this, they talk a lot of shit about us in their newspapers.


Tanzania: Dar Airport to Handle Over 30 Planes an Hour.

http://allafrica.com/stories/201003020616.html , and when you read, you will understand, wameichakachua habari, so as to establish a foolish “sense” kuwa tuna jengewa!!!


:eek2::banana:

Mark, reading what you wrote about what would need to be changed at JNIA is very important information; information that an airline fanatic like me didn't even know about. And you are indeed right. If we want our beloved Dar es Salaam to be not only a Haven of Peace, but a HUB of Peace for East Africa, then we would indeed have a long way to go.

And you are right that all areas would have to be involved from tourism to the government. The airport would need all the support it could get. Swissport is a crappy company in my opinion and the way they do things in JNIA is just unacceptable. We deserve better and we should work harder to make our airport not only the best in E. Africa, but a world-class airport.

Most importantly is the long distance between JNIA and City Centre. If they were smart, people would start building hotels in the areas surrounding the airport. Most international airports worldwide are surrounded by tons and tons of hotels when the passenger leaves the airport. This is especially true in the some of the largest airports in the world. If JNIA wants to attract more airlines and more passengers, they would have to start convincing hotels to build in that area as well. This would turn into a domino effect where-as development would start to boom in the area surrounding the airport. People then wouldn't have to go to City Centre to enjoy the city.

Last but not least, INFRASTRUCTURE is everything!!! One of the major problem at JNIA is that there is no air-conditioning. It is important that we get that fixed, and this is when reliable electricity comes in. Extensions on the roads leading to the airport comes in hand as it would help to decongest the current roads which are too small for the traffic that we have in Dar.

If there are things I left out, feel free to add onto what I've already said.



............come down homie!!!…….all things are in a right place, lets pray for peace and unit. Just go through my post above.

wow!!! this is getting embarrassing

MARK S, I can feel you bro, Im not sensitive but that makes two of us, im having problems understanding why someone has to say those unpleasants words to us, I saw many my bro, some even posted directly to tanzanian blogs, I dont want to jump to conclusion pretty fast but some are hurting coz is too much, why even say sth you are not even sure of, I remember our brother claiming that "TANZANIANS ARE PARTY ANIMALS AND FUNNY CREATURES" this one

:ohno::ohno::ohno:, plus we have been despised coz we cannot speak english, wish Lord God bless us and build a strong harmonius East African Community.

MARK S, I can feel you bro, Im not sensitive but that makes two of us, im having problems understanding why someone has to say those unpleasants words to us, I saw many my bro, some even posted directly to tanzanian blogs, I dont want to jump to conclusion pretty fast but some are hurting coz is too much, why even say sth you are not even sure of, I remember our brother claiming that "TANZANIANS ARE PARTY ANIMALS AND FUNNY CREATURES" this one

:ohno::ohno::ohno:, plus we have been despised coz we cannot speak english, wish Lord God bless us and build a strong harmonius East African Community.

Just try to learn their character and it won't bother you at all! as for me i know "them" in and out! Lets be strong as people and no one will intimidate us in anyway! as a matter of fact outside their borders they become one inside they become separate 2012 is coming you will see things!

wow!!! this is getting embarrassing

change that

This is getting comical

this thread is about Dar Multi-Billion Projects so i agree with Nairoberry.

change that

This is getting comical

............point taken, lets change and change that topic.


I love you men!!!! :happy:

............point taken, lets change and change that topic.


I love you men!!!! :happy:
:ohno:guys get it, i think he mean he is changing from this is getting embarrassing to this is getting comical

Guys, please keep posting the nice pictures that I now miss.
And somebody get the Mod around here, the many irrelevant posts can make way so that we can stay on-topic

Guys, please keep posting the nice pictures that I now miss.
And somebody get the Mod around here, the many irrelevant posts can make way so that we can stay on-topic

yeah, got you, :cheers:

in another development,...........................................


""Songwe airport is expected to be open for business before the end of this year. It has the longest runway in the country (3.5 km long). Dar es Salaam’s Julius Nyerere International Airport (JNIA)’s runway is 3 kilometres long.

According to Mr Kapunga, Mbeya City Council has set aside two places for investment purposes. “We have set aside Lwambi as a planned residential area….an Export Processing Zone is also to be built close to the residential place…..Isyesye is also earmarked as a residential and commercial area….with such initiatives, we are sure we will have played our part carefully when Songwe Airport opens for business,” he said.

The National Housing Corporation has already approached Mbeya City Council for a place to build over 100 multi-storey houses. It is expected that the airport will spur investments in agriculture especially in crops like tea, coffee, cotton, cocoa and tobacco, among others.

The Southern Highland Zone is also famous for minerals like coal, gold, iron-ore and gemstones. The region is also rich in tourist attraction sites including Ruaha National Park and Kipengrere, Katavi and Ihefu game reserves:ohno:. ""

:ohno::ohno::bash:


source:: http://thecitizen.co.tz/business/-/8498-modern-airport-expected-to-attract-investors-to-mbeya

http://www.thecitizen.co.tz/images/stories/dsmplan.jpg

MAKONGO SETTLEMENTS will “resemble those at Beverly Hills in the United States of America (USA).”



“Let me assure you that soon the project will start" - This was said by Lands, Housing and Human Settlements Development Minister Prof. Anna Tibajuka


source: http://www.ippmedia.com/frontend/index.php?l=26546

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtxUglIEVW0

Butembo can you please upload this video clip...I am having hard time up loading you tube stuff up in here!

watch this amazing video of proposed high rise towers for DSM.

http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k609/kiligoland1/th_TheSerkatguy.jpg (http://s1118.photobucket.com/albums/k609/kiligoland1/?action=view&current=TheSerkatguy.mp4)

are you bragging about investments in the mining sector:ohno: your little head must be nuts. for how long has tz been mining stuff esp tanzanite? and EXACTLY where has that money been going??? how has that tanzanite money benefited the common man???? you make a yourself look desperate when you start yapping about investment in mining sector

how about investment in things that are actually immediately are felt by the common man? have you checked the ethiopian investments in roads, energy, education, railways, housing, manufacturing parks etc the kind of investments that actually go straight to benefiting the common man??? on these kinds of investments none holds a candle to ethiopia in the greater eastern africa region.

you are yapping about mining contracts, while whatever is mined is exported overseas refined and sold back to you for a higher price and the paltry royalty money paid by the mining companies to the govt is eaten up by the few politically connected.

for you to beat your chest about mining contracts is just pathetic on your part.
thamk u Nairoberry

Kiligoland...can you upload the clip?

Kiligoland...can you upload the clip?

I tried to apload but not successiful, i downloaded the clip from youtube using realplayer and then put it into photobucket, but when you upload it here its like a photo and not a video clip, i dont know why?

thamk u Nairoberry

guys please, when will it end? can we focus on what this thread is about? what is this?

guys please, when will it end? can we focus on what this thread is about? what is this?



......the best way of ending it, lays on us, to end it. Its over, we wont hit-back.

.........they should take a chill-pill, and stay tuned for the new, and heavier investments on the offing.


ALUTA CONTINUE!!:banana::banana::banana::banana::lol::lol::lol::lol:

they also refer the city as kilimanjaro city in ilala .
http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k609/kiligoland1/r120640x480.jpg
http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k609/kiligoland1/Slide4.jpg
http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k609/kiligoland1/Slide5.jpg
http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k609/kiligoland1/Slide9.jpg
http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k609/kiligoland1/ilala2.jpg
http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k609/kiligoland1/r720640x480.jpg
http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k609/kiligoland1/Slide6.jpg
http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k609/kiligoland1/Slide8.jpg
http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k609/kiligoland1/Slide10jpgg.jpg
http://www.jpzgroup.com/my/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=70&Itemid=98
http://www.jpzgroup.com/my/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=64&Itemid=71

Kiligoland...Kinondoni Municipal are planning a similar project in Magomeni quarter but on a smaller scale...demolition of the area will start next month.It may start before this Ilala project.I have not seen any renders for the Magomeni city as its been named.

Kiligoland...Kinondoni Municipal are planning a similar project in Magomeni quarter but on a smaller scale...demolition of the area will start next month.It may start before this Ilala project.I have not seen any renders for the Magomeni city as its been named.

wow i heard it too during the president speech to kigamboni residents, just waiting for these projects to kick off, god bless Tanzania , :)

any update on this project?

Work on NSSF`s USD450 million shopping malls to start this month


By Stella Barozi



11th July 2011

The National Social Security Fund (NSSF) multi-billion joint venture project for three high rise residential and shopping malls at Mchikichini in Dar es Salaam will take off this month as planned.
The USD 450m project in which the fund expects to partner with Ilala Municipal Council and Symmetric Link of Malaysia is scheduled for completion in 2013.
According to the fund’s senior investment officer, Salvatory Hinju at least 30 acres of land have been acquired for the project.
“It is a huge investment which once completed will be more than the Mlimani City mall and is expected to improve the skyline of Dar es Salaam,” he said.
Under the plan, Hinju said, the fund is going to construct three high rise office towers, a three storey shopping mall, recreation park, cinema centre and three residential towers with apartments to cater across three different segments of the population (to be sold to interested individuals).
The project’s initial study, according to him, shows that the low cost apartments will comprise 480 units in a 15 storey building, 1,165 units in a 25 storey medium cost apartments and 604 units in a 30 storey building for luxury apartments.
Apart from residential houses, he said, the business complex will comprise shopping malls, supermarkets, banks, a five star hotel and a three star hotel.
He said a block will be constructed to accommodate about 300 inhabitants of the Ilala Municipal Council houses located in the project area to give room for demolition.
These will be given preferential rates to buy apartments in the block and those who will opt to just be tenants will pay rent at an affordable rate, he said.
The Mchikichini project is one among the fund’s many investment projects that will not only serve as the fund’s source of income, but will also create employment and help solve the city’s housing crisis, he added.
Among the fund’s ongoing housing projects is the 300 Mtoni Kijichi houses in Dar es Salaam, 85 of which are already complete.
The houses whose construction started in 2008 will be ready for sale at the end of this month and are meant for middle income earners who will pay either in cash or on loan with a 15-year repayment period, he said.
Preference will be given to NSSF members who shall repay the loan at a concession rate and non members at bank rates, he said.
The remaining 215 houses which are still under construction will be complete in March next year.
NSSF has also acquired property for future development at Gezaulole, Vijibweni, Dungu and Mwongozo areas in Kigamboni.
“We have also acquired property in Mwanza and Arusha for similar projects,” Hinju said.



SOURCE: THE GUARDIAN

hopefully this really does come into fruition.

Work on NSSF`s USD450 million shopping malls to start this month


By Stella Barozi



11th July 2011

The National Social Security Fund (NSSF) multi-billion joint venture project for three high rise residential and shopping malls at Mchikichini in Dar es Salaam will take off this month as planned.
The USD 450m project in which the fund expects to partner with Ilala Municipal Council and Symmetric Link of Malaysia is scheduled for completion in 2013.
According to the fund’s senior investment officer, Salvatory Hinju at least 30 acres of land have been acquired for the project.
“It is a huge investment which once completed will be more than the Mlimani City mall and is expected to improve the skyline of Dar es Salaam,” he said.
Under the plan, Hinju said, the fund is going to construct three high rise office towers, a three storey shopping mall, recreation park, cinema centre and three residential towers with apartments to cater across three different segments of the population (to be sold to interested individuals).
The project’s initial study, according to him, shows that the low cost apartments will comprise 480 units in a 15 storey building, 1,165 units in a 25 storey medium cost apartments and 604 units in a 30 storey building for luxury apartments.
Apart from residential houses, he said, the business complex will comprise shopping malls, supermarkets, banks, a five star hotel and a three star hotel.
He said a block will be constructed to accommodate about 300 inhabitants of the Ilala Municipal Council houses located in the project area to give room for demolition.
These will be given preferential rates to buy apartments in the block and those who will opt to just be tenants will pay rent at an affordable rate, he said.
The Mchikichini project is one among the fund’s many investment projects that will not only serve as the fund’s source of income, but will also create employment and help solve the city’s housing crisis, he added.
Among the fund’s ongoing housing projects is the 300 Mtoni Kijichi houses in Dar es Salaam, 85 of which are already complete.
The houses whose construction started in 2008 will be ready for sale at the end of this month and are meant for middle income earners who will pay either in cash or on loan with a 15-year repayment period, he said.
Preference will be given to NSSF members who shall repay the loan at a concession rate and non members at bank rates, he said.
The remaining 215 houses which are still under construction will be complete in March next year.
NSSF has also acquired property for future development at Gezaulole, Vijibweni, Dungu and Mwongozo areas in Kigamboni.
“We have also acquired property in Mwanza and Arusha for similar projects,” Hinju said.



SOURCE: THE GUARDIAN

This is beautiful and all. But what makes me laugh is how people are willing to spend millions of dollars on buildings, but somehow they never include the advancement of the electric power grid or the enhancement of our road-networks. These people really need to get their priorities str8. It's a shame to see beautiful tall structures springing up in Dar next to two lane roads. Not to mention the fact that we still don't know how all these projects will be powered. We need leaders and citizens with common sense...not leaders/citizens with millions of dollars at their expense.

This is beautiful and all. But what makes me laugh is how people are willing to spend millions of dollars on buildings, but somehow they never include the advancement of the electric power grid or the enhancement of our road-networks. These people really need to get their priorities str8. It's a shame to see beautiful tall structures springing up in Dar next to two lane roads. Not to mention the fact that we still don't know how all these projects will be powered. We need leaders and citizens with common sense...not leaders/citizens with millions of dollars at their expense.

jnyerere89 I think your views are a bit too cynical. The economy can not develop along only one front. So what if you have plenty of power available but yet still have plenty of homeless people? For those living in the outskirts of Dar, working up at 4.00am everyday so as to arrive early at work is very disturbing. Indeed we need more houses close to the CBD so that rent/ prices for that matter drops making it affordable for the avarage working classTanzanian to live close to the CBD. The CBD is at present like part of Mumbai because it is inhabited by Asians mostly. The power problem is bound to go but government needs to take it as an urgent matter. It is the lack of a sense of urgency that plagues government and not the issue of prioritizing!

jnyerere89 I think your views are a bit too cynical. The economy can not develop along only one front. So what if you have plenty of power available but yet still have plenty of homeless people? For those living in the outskirts of Dar, working up at 4.00am everyday so as to arrive early at work is very disturbing. Indeed we need more houses close to the CBD so that rent/ prices for that matter drops making it affordable for the avarage working classTanzanian to live close to the CBD. The CBD is at present like part of Mumbai because it is inhabited by Asians mostly. The power problem is bound to go but government needs to take it as an urgent matter. It is the lack of a sense of urgency that plagues government and not the issue of prioritizing!

I completely understand why you might have thought I was being a little cynical. Now I have just recently been to the outskirts of Dar and it completely broke my heart to see not only grown people, but students waiting at the daladala stops at 4am just so that they can get to their destinations on time. It is not right and nobody should have to live like that. However, the thing with housing is not that the government is not building enough. It is that Asians to begin with, have a lot of economic control of that area...which makes it hard for the average Tanzanian to get affordable housing in that area.

Second, people love money more than they love to help people. With that said, you and I both would have to be very naive to think that the government (in 2011) wants to build cheap housing for the least advantaged of Dar es Salaam citizens. There is always construction going on in Upanga but it is the rich and well-off that benefit. Even with the future movement of the city centre to Kigamboni, I am doubtful that things will get any better for average Tanzanians to be able to afford a 3 bedroom apartment in a place like Upanga. We are living in a time of wickedness and individualism in Tanzania. Capitalism seeks to destroy the poor and uplift the rich. You cannot possibly think that things are going to get any better for the poor through the government. Now, there is always hope even for the government. But as of now, I have not seen anything that has led me to speculate that the governmental body cares.

Now people like you and I can definitely do things to ease each others' suffering as Tanzanian citizens, but the government is not going to do it and definitely not the president. The one thing that I am very cynical on is the power issue and I will tell you why it is important. You cannot expect economic development or upliftment of lower social groups if you cannot even get your power grid in tact. In 2008, Tanzania was off to a very good start as our economy was growing at a rate of 7.3%, one of the highest in Africa. Last year, we ended the year at a growth rate of 6.5%. It is not that Tanzanians are stupid and don't know how to progress. The evidence shows that "severe power rationing", which was partially caused by corruption of Tanesco officials, contributed to the relatively smaller growth rate. Without power, there is no economic growth. Without economic growth, we as Tanzanians will stay poor. So in other words, we all want our country to develop but everything attached to development depends on electricity. It is not the only area that will help our country develop, but it still deserves the highest attention in infrastructure development.

But don't mind my cynical ways. Sometimes being cynical is the only way to bring change into a society. It is merely nothing compared to what the French did to their corrupt monarchs (cut their heads off) and what the Russians did to their corrupt monarchs (gun-down the entire family). The truth is sometimes hard to hear, but history shows us that the "harsh truth" helped to bring forth change in the most-developed countries we know of today. I still really do have a lot of hope for Tanzania. This is only a setback that we all have to get through as a people. But I know that once we get over this speed bump, things will get much better!

^^ well said jnyerere89

I completely understand why you might have thought I was being a little cynical. Now I have just recently been to the outskirts of Dar and it completely broke my heart to see not only grown people, but students waiting at the daladala stops at 4am just so that they can get to their destinations on time. It is not right and nobody should have to live like that. However, the thing with housing is not that the government is not building enough. It is that Asians to begin with, have a lot of economic control of that area...which makes it hard for the average Tanzanian to get affordable housing in that area.

Second, people love money more than they love to help people. With that said, you and I both would have to be very naive to think that the government (in 2011) wants to build cheap housing for the least advantaged of Dar es Salaam citizens. There is always construction going on in Upanga but it is the rich and well-off that benefit. Even with the future movement of the city centre to Kigamboni, I am doubtful that things will get any better for average Tanzanians to be able to afford a 3 bedroom apartment in a place like Upanga. We are living in a time of wickedness and individualism in Tanzania. Capitalism seeks to destroy the poor and uplift the rich. You cannot possibly think that things are going to get any better for the poor through the government. Now, there is always hope even for the government. But as of now, I have not seen anything that has led me to speculate that the governmental body cares.

Now people like you and I can definitely do things to ease each others' suffering as Tanzanian citizens, but the government is not going to do it and definitely not the president. The one thing that I am very cynical on is the power issue and I will tell you why it is important. You cannot expect economic development or upliftment of lower social groups if you cannot even get your power grid in tact. In 2008, Tanzania was off to a very good start as our economy was growing at a rate of 7.3%, one of the highest in Africa. Last year, we ended the year at a growth rate of 6.5%. It is not that Tanzanians are stupid and don't know how to progress. The evidence shows that "severe power rationing", which was partially caused by corruption of Tanesco officials, contributed to the relatively smaller growth rate. Without power, there is no economic growth. Without economic growth, we as Tanzanians will stay poor. So in other words, we all want our country to develop but everything attached to development depends on electricity. It is not the only area that will help our country develop, but it still deserves the highest attention in infrastructure development.

But don't mind my cynical ways. Sometimes being cynical is the only way to bring change into a society. It is merely nothing compared to what the French did to their corrupt monarchs (cut their heads off) and what the Russians did to their corrupt monarchs (gun-down the entire family). The truth is sometimes hard to hear, but history shows us that the "harsh truth" helped to bring forth change in the most-developed countries we know of today. I still really do have a lot of hope for Tanzania. This is only a setback that we all have to get through as a people. But I know that once we get over this speed bump, things will get much better!

I would neither fully agree nor disagree with your views but cynicism has got too much into the way of things in Tanzania to the extent of blinding us. Everything that either the government/IMF/World Bank/the US and other "development partners" want to assist us with, would be viewed suspiciously. Aren't we too quick into thinking that someone is out to suck our blood? Were these not the sentiments that led to the Arusha declaration in 1967? Aren't these the sentiments that prompted the Mwakyembe commission into falsely accusing the then PM Lowassa of favouring an allegedly shell company (Richmond) in 2008? Mind you, the turbines provided by Richmond are currently in use and the project has been recently endorsed by Hilary Clinton. If we do not change our ways and leave behind our cynical mindbox, we will not get anywhere.

Mind you, the turbines provided by Richmond are currently in use
You seem to love the idea of buying for dollars and selling for pennies

...and the project has been recently endorsed by Hilary Clinton.
It doesn't mean anything

jnyerere89 I think your views are a bit too cynical. The economy can not develop along only one front. So what if you have plenty of power available but yet still have plenty of homeless people?
Look my friend! You can't build anything without a well defined structure (animals, plants, cities, bridges and skyscrapers they all need it), that's a building block, you can't tell me you're going to build skyscrapers with no roads to accommodate transportation.

Also Energy is key, in developed countries like the US energy is regarded as a national security issue. It's sad you don't get it but even a poor fetus in it's early stages of cell division knows it has to have energy to survive by first developing its closed circulatory system, then and only then it can get somewhere. Energy is important, no country has ever developed without it,

Look my friend! You can't build anything without a well defined structure (animals, plants, cities, bridges and skyscrapers they all need it), that's a building block, you can't tell me you're going to build skyscrapers with no roads to accommodate transportation.

Also Energy is key, in developed countries like the US energy is regarded as a national security issue. It's sad you don't get it but even a poor fetus in it's early stages of cell division knows it has to have energy to survive by first developing its closed circulatory system, then and only then it can get somewhere. Energy is important, no country has ever developed without it,

No body said electrical energy is of no importance for economic growth! It is as well difficult to make sense out of your response above.

It is as well difficult to make sense out of your response above.
Ok let me break it down for ya...

Before you build those tall buildings you're proud off, you have to have better sewage system, roads, clean running water and power, Dar has non of these.

It has only four roads that lead to the city (Bagamoyo, kilwa, Mandela and Morogoro road), sewage system sucks (it was designed for the city of 30,000 people), blackout is a normal way of life, don't you think something is wrong here? And don't tell me you're happy for Clinton endorsing the Richmond project the company that didn't do anything better to light up the city.

I am disappointed that you have not understood the theme of my responses. I am not saying we should not develop our power and other infrastructures but we can not stop other things because of a problem that can be solved. My point is that our cynical ways should not get into the way of everything we do.

Ok let me break it down for ya...

Before you build those tall buildings you're proud off, you have to have better sewage system, roads, clean running water and power, Dar has non of these.

It has only four roads that lead to the city (Bagamoyo, kilwa, Mandela and Morogoro road), sewage system sucks (it was designed for the city of 30,000 people), blackout is a normal way of life, don't you think something is wrong here? And don't tell me you're happy for Clinton endorsing the Richmond project the company that didn't do anything better to light up the city.

I think the main point here is a private institution with tons of cash is buidling these projects. Yes, it is a government agency but ran as a private institution. Most of the things you complain about are the responsibility of the public arm of the government. So, it is like saying that TATA should not build a project in Tanzania until the sewers are taken care of. We should instead be proud of the achievements of the corporation and worry also about the other issues. However responsibilities should not be confused.

if a PRIVATE company wants to build a 70 floor scraper in the middle of nowhere then its fine as long as they get proper approval.

as long as direct government funds are not building them then i do not know what chamoto and nyerere are complaining about.

I am disappointed that you have not understood the theme of my responses. I am not saying we should not develop our power and other infrastructures but we can not stop other things because of a problem that can be solved. My point is that our cynical ways should not get into the way of everything we do.

I got you loud and clear but I'm also disappointed too that it doesn't sink in your neurons that we're putting the cart before the horse and you're cool with that. You can't tell me, "hey, let's build and build because we can't stop other things" . What problem is more important to you than having a poor infrastructure? That's why earlier I used a fetus as a metaphor to explain the importance of prioritizing things. So, yes we should stop everything and rebuild infrastructure first, then and only then we can have those fancy 100 storey skyscrapers.


as long as direct government funds are not building them then i do not know what chamoto and nyerere are complaining about.

What I'm bitching about is the lack of vision and strategy.

The government is to blame because it's the one that approves these development knowingly there will be a disaster in the future if what I said above is not implemented. Now don't get me wrong I like the East African city to look like Chicago one day but those skyscrapers in the windy city were built after the city laid out a plan to accommodate growth in the future, we aint got that strategy.

Now nairoberry you've got to know that Nairobi was planned to be where it is today, Dar es salaam wasn't. When you look at the city history you'll find that it was planned by the Germans but they left in 1918 (almost 100yrs ago) before they finished it, the British didn't have any plans for it. In other words it remained stagnant (strategic speaking) for the next 80 or so years because even in Nyerere Ujamaa period the emphasis was to build national identity, education and self reliance.

So here we are with tall buildings congested in one small area which was neither intended nor can accommodate such a massive number of people with only few narrow two lane roads, gimme a break? That's why when it rains, Dar is filled with rivers and lakes (or what ever you wanna call it) from block to block and you know what that means? Cholera! Does that make sense to you?

I got you loud and clear but I'm also disappointed too that it doesn't sink in your neurons that we're putting the cart before the horse and you're cool with that. You can't tell me, "hey, let's build and build because we can't stop other things" . What problem is more important to you than having a poor infrastructure? That's why earlier I used a fetus as a metaphor to explain the importance of prioritizing things. So, yes we should stop everything and rebuild infrastructure first, then and only then we can have those fancy 100 storey skyscrapers.



What I'm bitching about is the lack of vision and strategy.

The government is to blame because it's the one that approves these development knowingly there will be a disaster in the future if what I said above is not implemented. Now don't get me wrong I like the East African city to look like Chicago one day but those skyscrapers in the windy city were built after the city laid out a plan to accommodate growth in the future, we aint got that strategy.

Now nairoberry you've got to know that Nairobi was planned to be where it is today, Dar es salaam wasn't. When you look at the city history you'll find that it was planned by the Germans but they left in 1918 (almost 100yrs ago) before they finished it, the British didn't have any plans for it. In other words it remained stagnant (strategic speaking) for the next 80 or so years because even in Nyerere Ujamaa period the emphasis was to build national identity, education and self reliance.

So here we are with tall buildings congested in one small area which was neither intended nor can accommodate such a massive number of people with only few narrow two lane roads, gimme a break? That's why when it rains, Dar is filled with rivers and lakes (or what ever you wanna call it) from block to block and you know what that means? Cholera! Does that make sense to you?


Be worried of saying things you have no idea about and you can't substantiate... Dar had a last City Masteplan in 1979 (http://www.dgmarket.com/tenders/np-notice.do~3617849)! Though ever since there hasn't been another one, a new Masterplan is currently being drafted! And FYI there are plenty of satellite cities programs underway in Dar though the implementation takes long! As for floods, the reason is because most of the drainage system is not functioning anymore....

You are telling lies here, be worried of saying things you have no idea about... Dar had a last Masteplan in 1970! Though ever since there hasn't been another one, a new masterplan is currently being drafted! And FYI there are plenty of satellite cities programs underway in Dar though the implementation takes long!

Don't get too emotional Geza, I myself love Dar, It's my home town (born and raised in the heart of the city) but I was talking about the city center infrastructure which date back to German East Africa colonial era which has nothing to do with the 1970's master plan. Over the years the population has increased tremendously but the sewage system and roads leading to the city center hasn't improved since 1940's and about power supply I don't even wanna start. That's not a lie.

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee470/Groria_Brown/pla.jpg

BTW Tanzan I'm sorry for getting off topic

Don't get too emotional Geza, I myself love Dar, It's my home town (born and raised in the heart of the city) but I was talking about the city center infrastructure which date back to German East Africa colonial era which has nothing to do with the 1970's master plan. Over the years the population has increased tremendously but the sewage system and roads leading to the city center hasn't improved since 1940's and about power supply I don't even wanna start. That's not a lie.

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee470/Groria_Brown/pla.jpg

BTW Tanzan I'm sorry for getting off topic

That's why cities expand, updating Masterplan does not mean erasing all the roads that existed before! in any city there r must be old and new incorporated! Your argument fails to see that map has less than a quarter of the city when compared with the way the city looks today...

That's why cities expand, updating Masterplan does not mean erasing all the roads that existed before! in any city there r must be old and new incorporated! Your argument fails to see that map has less than a quarter of the city when compared with the way the city looks today...
And that was the point to show you that there is a need to build at least few overpass in CBD area to connect roads because the city still has only four main roads just like it was in 1949.
http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k609/kiligoland1/r720640x480.jpg

BTW are these tiles or what?

Kiligoland...can you upload the clip?

ZtxUglIEVW0

to be fair enough, i am not impressed with the design! too much concrete (and not steel and glass) and lack of creativeness in designing the buildings!

Concrete has its advantages over Glass.

Excessive glass absorbs too much solar heat gain.

And glass does not equate to creativity.

I think a combination between the new and old design is a better result. The building should not be entirely patterned, it looks more like a garment than a building. The rest of the building should be conventional.

to be fair enough, i am not impressed with the design! too much concrete (and not steel and glass) and lack of creativeness in designing the buildings!

Tanzanians are cynics. Period! Nothing impresses them.

ZtxUglIEVW0

Quiet impressive, this will be one of the most attractive places to live and play in Dar:cheers:

Hopefully this will come to fruition.

Construction to start in August:bash:

Jamani, I am so sorry for causing drama. That was never my intention.

I have been away in rural Tanzania, therefore internet has been hard to come about. Lakini this blew out of proportion as an argument. Let's end it please. Let's keep this a drama-free thread and also let's just agree to disagree. Everyone has their points and views, but let's not get ugonjwa wa moyo over one subject matter. Back to skyscrapercity.com.

This project is dead!

This project is dead!

What do you mean?

Last time I checked...the remaining stumbling block is paying compensation to the current tenants...the question is who pays them? Is it the Developer,is it NSSF or Ilala Municipal? Once this is done...construction will start.I hope they sort it out the soon.

From the way things are going, i find no reason to believe that this project will ever take off.

The stumbling block is Ilala Municipality not NSSF. Too many levels of approval in municipality and mayors/diwanis/directors want a piece of the cake.Imagine all diwanis in the designated area approve and you all know municipals are full of corruption in TZ.Lets not blame NSSF.

This project will proceed as planned...

This project will proceed as planned...

Any updates??

The stumbling block is Ilala Municipality not NSSF. Too many levels of approval in municipality and mayors/diwanis/directors want a piece of the cake.Imagine all diwanis in the designated area approve and you all know municipals are full of corruption in TZ.Lets not blame NSSF.
In NSSF I have no trust! 'm sorry for all Dr. DAU supporters.

In NSSF I have no trust! 'm sorry for all Dr. DAU supporters.

I understand your frustration...I am no less frustrated as anyone else about this project but never lose hope.

NSSF has successfully started RITA Tower...yes its their project in jv basis with RITA and construction is going very well.

After more than 30 years NSSF has kick started Kigamboni bridge construction (to start anytime now)

they have already demolished their plot along Uhuru road ready for construction of 20 floor tower.

Udom university...NSSF spent billions...since we want NSSF to do every thing they are now jumbled up with many projects which they have to trend carefully with due deligence and this takes time.

Huwezi kujua labda hao Malaysians wanataka kutulalia?

I agree their speed is frustrating but lets keep hope alive.

[QUOTE=tanzan;88048045]I understand your frustration...I am no less frustrated as anyone else about this project but never lose hope.


These towers would have looked better had they been constructed in Kagamboni. They would have kickstarted the Kigamboni city!

There could be light end of the tunnel...

There could be light end of the tunnel...

Umeanza, ebu tueleze kijana umenusa nini huko kwa wakubwa?:)

Umeanza, ebu tueleze kijana umenusa nini huko kwa wakubwa?:)

wakubwa wanaendelea kuongea baada ya world financial crisis kuwa hit wawekezaji. Sasa wanarudi na pengine michoro itabadilika...sasa tuombee mazungumzo yao ya mwisho yataleta mafanikio.Soon tunaweza kusikia deal ipo ama haipo.

wakubwa wanaendelea kuongea baada ya world financial crisis kuwa hit wawekezaji. Sasa wanarudi na pengine michoro itabadilika...sasa tuombee mazungumzo yao ya mwisho yataleta mafanikio.Soon tunaweza kusikia deal ipo ama haipo.

Sawa tunawasubiri wakubwa....:)

Sawa tunawasubiri wakubwa....:)

Moderator please close this forum. This project will never start!

Moderator please close this forum. This project will never start!

Its not over till its over:)

Moderator please close this forum. This project will never start!

Close the entire forum because of a single project?^^

Close the entire forum because of a single project?^^

:lol::lol::lol:

i saw a video on youtube recently which was dated as of last week and zitto kabwe was talking about pensions status in tanzania and he said most of the pensions schemes are waiting for the government to pay them back the cash they owe them. He did talk about Mchikichini and so it is still alive..just needs more help.

He also emphasized that the next year, pension funds are being urged to build houses and high rises which locals can afford, so expect to see many 15 storey projects when the next budget finalises.

updates from Kidula and co?