http://www.vocfm.co.za/public/images/upload_images/vuvuzela.jpg

Ok, i'm lost here. This instrument/gadget/traditional music instrument is surely going to make headlines. I cant imagine how it will sound like on the opening match at the SC stadium.

I see the amigos in ear-plugs. This would suggest that there would be unwanted sound that's being shielded off! but why would South Africans make this world cup sort of a "nuisance"? Don't get me wrong folks I'm not criticizing the use of Vuvuzelas, coz I don't know the history of it.

I want to hear it from South Africans. Clearly, there are some folks who've talked negatively about what they call a "noisy instrument".

I've heard South African doctors warn, on South African media about the dangers of the vuvuzela. Has it ever come to the attention of South Africans that the instrument is a "health hazard" as those doctors claim? Does it bother them? Naturally if someone is warned about something he would try and get rid of it or avoid it as much as possible or get an alternative. but this thing keep getting more and more popular with the masses.

Are South Africans not well informed people, why would they ignore the advice of their intellectuals.

this picture speaks volume.
http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq159/tadpolefarm/50718346.jpg
courtesy tadpolefarm

It actually made me start this thread. It seems there are some concerned folks most likely south African citizens.


http://viviennemackie.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/vuvuzela2.jpg
I need to know why this instrument is so much popular, why south Africans would never want to throw it away. Someone please tell me.

Maybe I'm dumb, but what volumes does that picture speak?

From a South African perspective, I've been to a sold out soccer match at Moses Mabhida, and the atmosphere is absolutely electric.. the stadium literaly hums and it makes the hairs on the back of your neck stand up...

On TV it annoys me to a certain extent, at the soccer game its a different story. As Toxic said, it ads to the atmosphere.

The Vuvuzela was never remotely enough to put me off coming.I will have my earplugs handy ,just in case because they don't take up any space at all.
My only concern is that the foreign supporters will be drowned out and we won't hear any chanting
Time will tell

Can't wait

Why don't allow vuvuzelas only in south africa matches? That's the way they support their team. But in other matches maybe would be better not allow them, in order to give the foreign fans the opportunity to create their own atmosphere, with their chantings and all.

I say that because i dont see any brazilian samba nor mexican hinchadas nor argentinan chantings in matches that these countries are not in.

^^ that is what fifa should have done instead of allowing it....It number 1 thing i am worried about in this competition is not transport or security but the vuvuzela....when kids have to wear ear plugs to the game isnt it sad...blow it but dont over blow it...if people over blow the vuvuzela during the world cup as they did in the confederations cup its going to ruin the athmosphere of the world cup..

apparently some brazilians have said, that our vuvuzelas are nothing compared to the noise their fans make. i get annoyed by the songs the english sing. even spanish fans have trumpet like instruments that aren't everyone's fav's. one thing i will say is that i've experienced alot of very insensitive fans, who just blow their vuvuzelas in other people's faces. that's just plain disrespectful. they don't seem to be very interested in the game, just in how many people they can antagonise. so for me it's not the vuvuzela that's annoying, but how the person next to, our behind me uses it.

apparently some brazilians have said, that our vuvuzelas are nothing compared to the noise their fans make. i get annoyed by the songs the english sing. even spanish fans have trumpet like instruments that aren't everyone's fav's. one thing i will say is that i've experienced alot of very insensitive fans, who just blow their vuvuzelas in other people's faces. that's just plain disrespectful. they don't seem to be very interested in the game, just in how many people they can antagonise. so for me it's not the vuvuzela that's annoying, but how the person next to, our behind me uses it.


Nail-head

Guys here in Portugal they are actually supporting the vuvuzela.
Galp (Portuguese oil company) is selling vuvuzelas for 1€ and theirs been a lot of publicity on TV. Ive heard at night quite a few of them. I have mine but with SA flag!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRWdoHbKrfw

Maybe I'm dumb, but what volumes does that picture speak?

From a South African perspective, I've been to a sold out soccer match at Moses Mabhida, and the atmosphere is absolutely electric.. the stadium literaly hums and it makes the hairs on the back of your neck stand up...

Toxic, no you're not dumb, that picture "may" ( I stress on MAY) suggest that the vuvuzela or just the noise made by it may be harmful to the young kid. Don't you think so? Or is that not a tell-tell sign to you?

The reason why i stress on "may" is that the child might just have prior problems with the ears. And we all know stadiums are not libraries. Just like my little sisters, she wears ear plugs coz of some ear infection she had.

During the last world cup I watched the game between sweden and trinidad and tobago and even then I saw a child that had ear muffs on. Any football atmosphere is loud, of course the vuvuzelas make a lot of noise but don't generalise them as being the only problem.

You can't ban Vuvuzelas. They are the key ingredients to the SA Football. Every Football loving nation has something at the equivalent of Vuvuzelas.

Take Egyptian games. they are noise as crazy, all north african derbies are insane, their noise sound more than Vuvuzelas, and huge flags everywhere. Congolese games have annoying noisy songs with big instruments from the start of the game to the end.

^^ yea key to south african football....then let it be used in south african football only.....and let others celebrate in their unique way.....thats what fifa should have done.

^^ no one's forcing foreigners to buy vuvuzelas. if south african buys a world cup ticket in his own country he should be allowed to celebrate his way. as i said before, all that should be expected is that people take others around them into consideration.

Toxic, no you're not dumb, that picture "may" ( I stress on MAY) suggest that the vuvuzela or just the noise made by it may be harmful to the young kid. Don't you think so? Or is that not a tell-tell sign to you?

The reason why i stress on "may" is that the child might just have prior problems with the ears. And we all know stadiums are not libraries. Just like my little sisters, she wears ear plugs coz of some ear infection she had.

I'm sorry that picture says absolutely NOTHING about the vuvuzela since there isn't a vuvuzela in the picture... It just shows a young child with either a worried or expectant look on their face looking back up the stadium.... it is not possible to determine that look on the childs face because there is no context as to where and what the child is looking at.

I'm sorry that picture says absolutely NOTHING about the vuvuzela since there isn't a vuvuzela in the picture... It just shows a young child with either a worried or expectant look on their face looking back up the stadium.... it is not possible to determine that look on the childs face because there is no context as to where and what the child is looking at.
Check what's in the kid's ear..

So, the child has an object (possibly an earplug) stuck in their ear.. the picture itself still says absolutely nothing about Vuvuzela's specifically since there isn't one in the picture... all the picture says to me, now that I've noticed that specific object, is that live sporting events are loud, which is something we all know anyway...

So, the child has an object (possibly an earplug) stuck in their ear.. the picture itself still says absolutely nothing about Vuvuzela's specifically since there isn't one in the picture... all the picture says to me, now that I've noticed that specific object, is that live sporting events are loud, which is something we all know anyway...
Dude, although I'm totally FOR the vuvu, the OP was making the point that medically it's been investigated and shown that the vuvuzela has long term detrimental effects to a person's hearing which isn't a good thing. Yeah all soccer matches are loud but having been to Confed Cup games too, the vuvu takes it to a whole new level.

And yes, that's an earplug....or maybe just a gigantic piece of wax.

The OP can make whatever point he wants....

BUT my point still stands that that specific picture doesn't speak the volumes the OP thinks it does... It doesn't reference the Vuvuzela in any way at all. There is an implication due to the context the picture is used in in the post.. but the actual picture itself doesn't speak about the Vuvuzela at all, just live sporting events.

Toxic are u stevie wonder.......that pic speaks a loud voice that says the vuvuzela is gonna blow up my ear drum....cmon dude.

this discussion doesn't make that much sense to me, or not the way it's going at the moment. people are either for or against vuvus, no matter what other people say. it's got nothing to do with crowd noise levels, because others events are the same in that regard. i think it's about finding it either just exciting or unfamiliar and annoying. nothing anyone says is gonna change anybody else's mind.

The OP can make whatever point he wants....

BUT my point still stands that that specific picture doesn't speak the volumes the OP thinks it does... It doesn't reference the Vuvuzela in any way at all. There is an implication due to the context the picture is used in in the post.. but the actual picture itself doesn't speak about the Vuvuzela at all, just live sporting events.

I agree, without the written context you have no way of determining if there was even a vuvuzela in the stadium. So the picture kinda lacks a point, other than to add an emotional value to the story, but without proper grounding (within the context of the picture)

herb u have been smoking too much um "herb"

this discussion doesn't make that much sense to me, or not the way it's going at the moment. people are either for or against vuvus, no matter what other people say. it's got nothing to do with crowd noise levels, because others events are the same in that regard. i think it's about finding it either just exciting or unfamiliar and annoying. nothing anyone says is gonna change anybody else's mind.

Amen brother. You've nailed it. Have nothing more to say

herb u have been smoking too much um "herb"

No I have an understanding of what toxic was saying and believe it makes sense to question the validity of an image that shows no clear link with the context of an article

Thanks... someone gets it..

I'm not questioning the OP's point in his "article"... I'm saying the picture used of the child is irrelevant to the OP since it has no link to the topic being presented.

I'm also worried about these vuvu things! I can just imagine it being really annoying if there are too many of them. Oh well, hope everyone tries to be respectful :lol:

I'm also worried about these vuvu things! I can just imagine it being really annoying if there are too many of them. Oh well, hope everyone tries to be respectful :lol:

Respectful to who? This is OUR house!!! All o' y'all should be showing some RESPECT!

Thanks... someone gets it..

I'm not questioning the OP's point in his "article"... I'm saying the picture used of the child is irrelevant to the OP since it has no link to the topic being presented.

Come on mate. Use your brain.

Although there are no vuvuzelas present in the picture, it is a perfectly fair assumption that they may be the reason the child is wearing ear plugs.

Not piece of evidence is explicit, but most people are able to use powers of deduction.

Respectful to who? This is OUR house!!! All o' y'all should be showing some RESPECT!

Uh? Not sure what you mean. I mean I hope that the users are respectful and dont blow them in peoples faces and right by their ears.

Come on mate. Use your brain.

Although there are no vuvuzelas present in the picture, it is a perfectly fair assumption that they may be the reason the child is wearing ear plugs.

Not piece of evidence is explicit, but most people are able to use powers of deduction.
Nail ---> Head

Come on mate. Use your brain.

Although there are no vuvuzelas present in the picture, it is a perfectly fair assumption that they may be the reason the child is wearing ear plugs.

Not piece of evidence is explicit, but most people are able to use powers of deduction.

I am using my head..

I have been to many live sporting events that don't have Vuvuzela's and seen many kids with earplugs because live sporting events are loud and raucus.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTfNoH1Hngw&feature=player_embedded

And that clearly isnt in a stadium where vuvuzelas were preseant. So although the norm would be to assume that the child is wearing ear plugs because of the vuvuzelas given the context of the article. In truth the discerning read would have to question if the image really did show that or was just added to entice an emotional response.

Come on mate. Use your brain.

Although there are no vuvuzelas present in the picture, it is a perfectly fair assumption that they may be the reason the child is wearing ear plugs.

Not piece of evidence is explicit, but most people are able to use powers of deduction.

Exactly.....Lets just say some south africans can be in denial.....

^^ I think you would find that the argument wasnt about the noise levels of the vuvuzelas but rather the appropriatness of the image in question to illustrate a point, very different debates really.

i've seen adults with earplugs at sports events and yes, at soccer games there where vuvuzelas. but i've also seen guys who wear ear protection at big concerts and smaller loud gigs. the point is, an image of someone with an earplug is no argument for the banning of an instrument. people are different and some are more careful than others. you just can't generalise, particularly if you've never been in a stadium filled with vuvuzelas.

I've just watched the South Africa - Bulgaria friendly game and it was really painful to sit through all 90 minutes - like you are in some giant beehive.. simply awful.:ohno: I don't think i can stand the whole world cup if it's gonna be like this. They should ban them surely
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/4376/vuvuzelafreewc2010.png

I've just watched the South Africa - Bulgaria friendly game and it was really painful to sit through all 90 minutes - like you are in some giant beehive.. simply awful.:ohno: I don't think i can stand the whole world cup if it's gonna be like this. They should ban them surely
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/4376/vuvuzelafreewc2010.png

Too bad ur beloved Bulgaria didn't make the finals. Ur in Africa dude, get used to the vibe.

lmao @ that sign

i don't get it. even if it does sound like a beehive (which i disagree with) what's so bad about that? other countries have much more annoying customs when it comes to football. are we going to take poll for for everyone of them and ban whatever we don't like. we can't make everyone happy. everyone is entitled to their opinion, so if you like it great, if you don't you don't.

Johannesburg - Vuvuzelas will be banned from all WC 2010 matches if rowdy supporters throw these soccer trumpets onto the pitch, or use them as a weapon, the soccer bosses said on Thursday.

Bafana Bafana's match against Colombia - with 75 000 spectators - in Soccer City on Thursday is also an opportunity to test whether the vuvuzelas' deafening noise disrupts the match too much.

The opening match will be played precisely two weeks from Friday. Brazil, who landed on Thursday, were the second WC team to arrive in the country.

"Should any vuvuzela be thrown onto the pitch in anger, that will be the end of the vuvuzela," Danny Jordaan, chief executive of the local organising committee, told journalists in Sandton on Thursday.

If a vuvuzela was to be used as a weapon, it will "be banned from the next game".

During the Confederations Cup in June last year, foreign players as well as journalists complained that the vuvuzelas are so noisy it made their heads spin.

Jérôme Valcke, secretary general of FIFA, said on Thursday that FIFA expects it to be much less noisy in the stadiums than it was during recent matches.

According to Jordaan, a constant drone is unacceptable, especially while "presidents or kings" are speaking. Furthermore, spectators must be able to hear announcements for safety reasons.

"We can't have a constant noise when we're in the middle of a national anthem. We can't disrespect national anthems. When the president speaks, everybody needs to hear," Jordaan said.

That's why Thursday night will serve as a dress rehearsal for the opening match.

"We'll see on Thursday night (what the noise levels are like). This is the first time that Soccer City will be full, and we have to see if the noise has an impact on the efficiency of the activities," Jordaan said.

Authorities also ran out of patience with journalists pestering the WC teams on Thursday.

The police detained a Sunday Times photographer, Simon Mathebula, at the OR Tambo airport. He was questioned and ordered to delete all the photos - those he took when he tried to get a little too close to the Brazilians.

Darryl Hammond, picture editor at the paper, said Mathebula wasn't supposed to be in that area. "There seems to have been a misunderstanding."

Once he had arrived in South Africa, famous Brazilian midfielder Kaka said on Twitter that he's very excited to be here.

"Just arrived in South Africa. Incredible atmosphere!"

^^ About time...

^^ About time...tho rulani send me that vuvuzela dude...

The thing is the World Cup is supposed to showcase the diversity and different flavors from all the participating nations. I'm sorry but the consensus for most of the world is that the vuvuzela is annoying and more importantly drowns out the noises from singing and chants which are far more pleasant to hear. I mean a well coordinated song gives a far superior atmosphere than random blowing of horns.

^^ About time...tho rulani send me that vuvuzela dude...

You aint gettin nothing Dennis:)

The thing is the World Cup is supposed to showcase the diversity and different flavors from all the participating nations. I'm sorry but the consensus for most of the world is that the vuvuzela is annoying and more importantly drowns out the noises from singing and chants which are far more pleasant to hear. I mean a well coordinated song gives a far superior atmosphere than random blowing of horns.

it's interesting though when you go to the airport or an international game, there' one thing all the foreign visitors have in common: they all buy at least one vuvuzela.

i hope fans start battling each other with the vuvuzela :bash: from the minute south africa and mexico kick off. the sooner the vuvuzela is banned from the cup the better, for the sake of humanity and planet earth in general.

i hope fans start battling each other with the vuvuzela :bash: from the minute south africa and mexico kick off. the sooner the vuvuzela is banned from the cup the better, for the sake of humanity and planet earth in general.

i guess you are not coming to the WC as well. Same reason why the tickets are coming back into the market. We are filling up stadiums for your games. So expect that noice in each and every game of the WC.:lol:

Johannesburg - Vuvuzelas will be banned from all WC 2010 matches if rowdy supporters throw these soccer trumpets onto the pitch, or use them as a weapon, the soccer bosses said on Thursday.

Bafana Bafana's match against Colombia - with 75 000 spectators - in Soccer City on Thursday is also an opportunity to test whether the vuvuzelas' deafening noise disrupts the match too much.

The opening match will be played precisely two weeks from Friday. Brazil, who landed on Thursday, were the second WC team to arrive in the country.

"Should any vuvuzela be thrown onto the pitch in anger, that will be the end of the vuvuzela," Danny Jordaan, chief executive of the local organising committee, told journalists in Sandton on Thursday.

If a vuvuzela was to be used as a weapon, it will "be banned from the next game".

During the Confederations Cup in June last year, foreign players as well as journalists complained that the vuvuzelas are so noisy it made their heads spin.

Jérôme Valcke, secretary general of FIFA, said on Thursday that FIFA expects it to be much less noisy in the stadiums than it was during recent matches.

According to Jordaan, a constant drone is unacceptable, especially while "presidents or kings" are speaking. Furthermore, spectators must be able to hear announcements for safety reasons.

"We can't have a constant noise when we're in the middle of a national anthem. We can't disrespect national anthems. When the president speaks, everybody needs to hear," Jordaan said.

That's why Thursday night will serve as a dress rehearsal for the opening match.

"We'll see on Thursday night (what the noise levels are like). This is the first time that Soccer City will be full, and we have to see if the noise has an impact on the efficiency of the activities," Jordaan said.

Authorities also ran out of patience with journalists pestering the WC teams on Thursday.

The police detained a Sunday Times photographer, Simon Mathebula, at the OR Tambo airport. He was questioned and ordered to delete all the photos - those he took when he tried to get a little too close to the Brazilians.

Darryl Hammond, picture editor at the paper, said Mathebula wasn't supposed to be in that area. "There seems to have been a misunderstanding."

Once he had arrived in South Africa, famous Brazilian midfielder Kaka said on Twitter that he's very excited to be here.

"Just arrived in South Africa. Incredible atmosphere!"

The fact that FIFA put such a strict tone just shows how they rather not have the vuvuzela either, but in trying to be politically correct they need just one incident to ban it. Just one tame act of throwing a vuvuzela on the pitch, will according to fifa ban it for future games

i guess you are not coming to the WC as well. Same reason why the tickets are coming back into the market. We are filling up stadiums for your games. So expect that noice in each and every game of the WC.:lol:
my problem isn't with the vuvuzela in and of itself. a lot of idiotic amateurish soccer countries with unsophisticated fan-bases have similar horns in their games (like some in some CONCACAF countries). my problem is that rather than blowing them at certain times of the game (like when their country scores or has a good moment) they just mindlessly blow them throughout the game, regardless of what's happening on the pitch. the result of that stupidity is that nearly all football-literate homo sapiens sapiens on planet earth hate the vuvuzela.

given how the great sea of humanity on planet football loathes the vuvuzela, it won't take long for someone to launch a vuvuzela "in anger" or manufacture "an incident" to get that horrible horn banned and rid us all of that awful beehive sound until the end of time (july 11), for the good of the game. if they want to keep it for the south african team matches, i'm fine with that, as it means i won't watch just those three games.

Maybe one fan will purposely do it to make fifa ban it lol.

was thinking about that earlier. if you dont like the vuvuzela, got a stadium, wait for the anthems, and then blow it.

I just saw vuvuzelas on sale at Sainbury's while shopping this afternoon.

^^ thats super... bulls fans yesterday were loving it also. novelty. and if the people watching the match get into it i rate everyone just put their tvs on mute if theyve got a problem with it

http://www.j-sainsbury.co.uk/index.asp?PageID=415&section=&Year=2010&NewsID=1275

Horn to Hit High Note For Football Fans
April 22, 2010



It's a sound said to resemble a giant raspberry - and few people in Britain know how to play it - but in 50 days time the Vuvuzela horn is set to be most famous instrument in the world.

No football fan will be without one in any of the World Cup stadiums - it's the South African equivalent of a whistle or drum.

So popular will the sound become that supermarket Sainsbury's is shipping over 50,000 of the horns to meet demand in the UK.

Said a Sainsbury's spokesperson: "The sound of the Vuvuzela is set to become more familiar than the referees whistle. It will certainly become a "must have" item, and already interest from customers is high."

The sound of the Vuvuzella horn - or Vuvu for short - has become common throughout all South African football leagues.

However, the technique to play the one metre long horn can be tricky for beginners to learn.

Air blown through pursed lips - a similar technique to playing the trumpet - is the best method, according to experts, but things can often go wrong.

Said a Sainsbury's Spokesperson: "Beginners can expect to produce sounds which have been likened to an elephant call or an angry swarm of bees en masse."

"Played correctly however, the horn is believed to have powerful abilities to ‘kill off' the opposing team's player's during a match'."

The Vuvu horns will cost £2 each and is part of the full range of World Cup essentials, including wigs, flags, inflatable hands and face paints that will hit Sainsbury's shelves in May.

that's great. 50,000 less vuvuzelas in south africa. please ship them all abroad, preferably to siberia.

its not that bad at the stadium. sounds worse on tv.

its not that bad at the stadium. sounds worse on tv.

+1

was listening to the radio this morning and the DJ brought up an article from a black journalist, (not sure which guy) but he said when FIFA called upon to ban them, we all cried foul and claimed it was part of our "footballing culture". according to him Vuvuzela's only came popular in the late 90's early 2000's and before that fans should sing and dance. I recall the African Cup of Nations final at FNB, lots of singing by the crowd so his got a point. Im sure we all can agree that singing is better than that stupid horn.

^^ +2

+1

was listening to the radio this morning and the DJ brought up an article from a black journalist, (not sure which guy) but he said when FIFA called upon to ban them, we all cried foul and claimed it was part of our "footballing culture". according to him Vuvuzela's only came popular in the late 90's early 2000's and before that fans should sing and dance. I recall the African Cup of Nations final at FNB, lots of singing by the crowd so his got a point. Im sure we all can agree that singing is better than that stupid horn.

http://www.timeslive.co.za/opinion/columnists/article476668.ece/Nothing-kills-the-joy-of-soccer-like-a-bunch-of-wailing-vuvuzelas

+1

was listening to the radio this morning and the DJ brought up an article from a black journalist, (not sure which guy) but he said when FIFA called upon to ban them, we all cried foul and claimed it was part of our "footballing culture". according to him Vuvuzela's only came popular in the late 90's early 2000's and before that fans should sing and dance. I recall the African Cup of Nations final at FNB, lots of singing by the crowd so his got a point. Im sure we all can agree that singing is better than that stupid horn.

which is what i said last year during the confed cup. i'm not anti vuvuzelas at all, but it is still a relatively new thing.

haggie lol....u make me laugh.....u tend to stay neutral on this subject but u slightly support it.

Haggie lets say u driving in a car and the light was red...and i am in the other lane and blasting my hip hop jam on all cylinders...with the bass up....and lets say u happen not to like hip hop...wouldnt u say why cant this clown listen to his music with the volume low and windows up in his car....doesnt he know that not everybody like this kinda of noise.

Thats a daft analogy dennis....

Its not daft at all......just because somebody like the sound of some sound doesnt mean everybody likes it......do u know how many white people complain to my manager cuz my hip hop music is damn loud when i go deliver pizz....thats the way the vuvuzela is...south africans enjoy it but no the rest of the world..why cant the vuvuzela be blown in a decent way and not blowing it when anthems are playing...now the vuvuzela is daft TB.

^^ come on dont be daft. We didnt blowing Vuvuzela all time like your car blasting the hiphop whatoever.

^^ come on dont be daft. We didnt blowing Vuvuzela all time like your car blasting the hiphop whatoever.

Blasting a loud music that is annoying to people sometimes is just the same as blowing that obnoxious sound of the vuvuzela...

dennis, i'm trying to see both sides of the argument, that's all. of course i have my own opinion. if that makes you laugh...

listening to music while you work is totally different from celebrating in a stadium.

i don't know when you heard vuvuzelas during the anthems. people have respect. plus, foreigners go gagga over vuvus when they're over here. you're basing your arguments on nothing but your opinion. your entitled to it but don't generalise about other people based on what you think.

Blasting a loud music that is annoying to people sometimes is just the same as blowing that obnoxious sound of the vuvuzela...

if you can blast your hip-hop music knowing that some will find it annoying, why cant SA blow their vuvuzelas knowing that some will find it annoying

Franco i cant believe your south american azz is supporting the vuvuzela......shakes head

^^ he's got a point.

Going into the world cup the international media were all abuzz about SA's crime rate and its suitability to host the world cup. Well after almost seven days of the world cup no major glitches, very little crime except pretty girls in short orange dresses being arrested. LOL

However, it is sad that the major talking point about this world cup is the beloved vuvuzela. Now don't get me wrong, I have no problem with it as I am quite used to the sound. Thing is the rest of the international viewership are not use to the sound it makes over the tele. The perception now exist that this is the worst world cup ever even though the football has been top notch.

Did Fifa and the LOC drop the ball by allowing it and is it too late to do something about it? Do we want 2010 to be remembered as the most annoying world cup ever? There has been lots said about "when in Rome do like the Romans". However, the success of 2010 depends on the perception of the international viewership; people really don't care whether the tournament runs smoothly or if security guards go on strike. Its about whether someone can sit at home 10 000 miles away and watch a game 5 minutes without having to put the telly on mute.

Are we as south africans being insensitive to the rest of the world? Do we lack the capability to look at ourselves critically and come to the conclusion that whats best for us may not be best for the world. Are we being to PC? Does the world owe us anything? And why do we feel the need to get defensive about a plastic horn?

Hey Phil Cpt,

I'm think South Africans are being a little insensitive about this. The entire world is watching our beautiful country right now but that constant noise does not make for pleasant viewing. I work in a big office in London and we all have TV’s on our desks but have been told to mute them during games because the noise is so irritating. Also, everyone that I speak to over here hates them! I just hope that this does not get remembered as the world cup with the annoying sound.

^^ Might be too late for that now?

People's horn is beyond FIFA's grip
June 17, 2010

By Jayaditya Gupta
(Archive)

I dislike the vuvuzela. I haven't been to a South Africa game yet but the noise at other games has been loud enough, with fans of other countries adopting the instrument as their own. I can only imagine what it's like when Bafana Bafana play.

And it's everywhere - walking down an empty and quiet street you can be sure to have your thoughts rudely interrupted by a loud 'parp' or three. My sympathies lie with the players and coaches who have to communicate on the field.

But I cannot countenance a ban on the vuvuzela, or any official intervention to regulate its use. It may be in your face, it may be disruptive, it may be ersatz - as my fellow writer Firdose Moonda pointed out on this site, it is not as ubiquitous in regular South African football as it has become in this World Cup. Yet it appears to be the public's weapon of choice and in this I would have to say, hand over my ears, that the people must have their way.

My reasoning is this: In a tournament where everything is so closely regulated by Officialdom, where advertising and PR screams out at you from every possible inch of space, the vuvuzela is probably the one thing that is the people's own. The food they eat is regulated, so too the water, soft drinks and beer they drink. One security official in Cape Town told me that the most heart-wrenching sight on the first day was to see hundreds of kids have to dump their burgers, crisps and drinks at the entrance - many of the packets unopened, meant to be eaten inside the ground - because they were the wrong brand. In Port Elizabeth there is concern over the fate of similar uneaten food that has been piling up at the entrances.

The vuvuzela's popularity may have been artificially inflated, but I haven't seen any commercial hand behind it. Sure it's been adopted by some of the companies who've begun handing them out free but to blow or not to blow is still the individual's choice. I've seen them being blown at stadiums over the past week and I haven't seen it choreographed; it comes out as a spontaneous expression. You cannot tell a kid (or even an adult who's had several pints of the house beer) when to blow a vuvuzela and when not; it will happen when it happens. It may be mindless, as Firdose has argued, but so is a lot of football chanting - and, let's face it, the vuvuzela is not going to emit anything racist or homophobic or similarly offensive.

It distracts players, is the argument; perhaps, but they have to be able to deal with it, probably as they deal with the cold. My own feeling - wishful thinking you say - is that it will fade away, reduced to the irrelevance of the Mexican wave, the last real innovation by fans. There are more serious things for FIFA to consider at its flagship event - the suitability of the Jabulani, for instance.

SOURCE: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/world-cup/columns/story?id=797774&cc=5739&ver=global

..... One security official in Cape Town told me that the most heart-wrenching sight on the first day was to see hundreds of kids have to dump their burgers, crisps and drinks at the entrance - many of the packets unopened, meant to be eaten inside the ground - because they were the wrong brand....

Disgusting:ohno: FIFA need to be brought down to earth and learn some humanity in the process.

Although I don't like the sound from vuvuzela very much , I am willing to enjoy its unique cultural way by blowing it , for the 2010 World Cup is held in South Africa, Whoever knows when it will hold again in African continent , and let the people blow it with one's strength as much as possible , anyway it nowadays indeed a great event in the world ...


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Funny how people complain about the Vuvuzela, but they still learn how to, then they blow it even louder. people from different countries still complain about it, but still their brothers who came to the WC buy it painted in their traditional country colours and blow it even louder.

vuvuz are fine at MM... smaller stadiums with enclosed structures.. could be more of a pain...my two kids sitting next to me blasted away but up into the roof and well everyone around us were just fine, from what i could figure.

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I have been to 5 matches now ...and I think the vuvu takes awy a lof of the "magic" of the crowd atmosphere, the singinging and chanting that make each game unique. I loved the way the Mexicans chant before goalkicks or the way the Argentinian fans sing along to many songs together while waving ther flags. Most of you watching on tv will miss that.

But .....it is SA's right to enjoy the world cup as it sees fit - and the vuvu is the fan's choice so let everyone enjoy ths WC knowing the fans who have paid a lot of money to be there, have chosen th vuvuzela to celebrate.

I noticed that in the last games the noise declined.

i hate barmy army...barmy army...barmy army for days on end. I hate seeing flares at matches which cant be ideal as a player. so every where is different but the bladdy european players are pussies and complain at every oppotunity just cos its different. Its too cold, the ball is not round enough etc etc etc

I have been to 5 matches now ...and I think the vuvu takes awy a lof of the "magic" of the crowd atmosphere, the singinging and chanting that make each game unique. I loved the way the Mexicans chant before goalkicks or the way the Argentinian fans sing along to many songs together while waving ther flags. Most of you watching on tv will miss that.

But .....it is SA's right to enjoy the world cup as it sees fit - and the vuvu is the fan's choice so let everyone enjoy ths WC knowing the fans who have paid a lot of money to be there, have chosen th vuvuzela to celebrate.

I agree. I don't have a real problem with the horns but it can not be denied that the vuvuzelas reign over all other sounds. This way the world (but also south africa) is denied the right to enjoy the Brazilian samba sounds, the english community singing, the spanish olé's and so many other sounds. Compare for instance the sounds of Holland games in Germany/USA/Korea/France and for sure in 4 years time in Brasil with the sounds of the first Holland game in Soccer City. If you do that honestly you will have to admit that everybody is missing out on something. (notwithstanding the fact that it took place in one of the greatest football venues ever)

Personally the thing I really miss is the African feeling for rhytm. As a regular visitor (and fan) of the continent I know no other continent masters rhytm and singing so well as the African continent. This world cup however gives the opposite impression.

But the bottom line of course is that the WC takes place in south african stadions and that the fans are allowed to express their enthusiasm the way they prefer to. If that has to happen by blowing the vuvuzela, than so be it.

i watched a game yesterday - korea vs argentina and the horns weren't too bad - you could actually hear cheers from the crowd and chants etc

first time i noticed they didn't over power on the TV - nice change

Broadcasters Filtering out World Cup Vuvuzelas

COLOGNE, Germany (Hollywood Reporter) - Around the world, broadcasts of the football World Cup have been accompanied by the same, annoying drone ... of commentators complaining about the vuvuzelas.

The plastic horns are a traditional noisemaker in South African sports stadiums, local officials claim. But the sound of thousands of vuvuzelas honking has commentators, networks and audiences at home raising their voices in protest.

The BBC alone received 554 viewer complaints about the sound of vuvuzela horns in its live World Cup coverage from South Africa, with many fans claiming they couldn't hear the color commentary. It's a similar story worldwide, with on-air pundits, newspaper editorials and Internet bloggers pitching in to bitch about the horn.

Even the players hate it. Portugal superstar Cristiano Ronaldo has complained the noise affects player concentration, and the French team blamed their 0-0 draw with Uruguay last Friday on the distracting drone. (It was not known if vuvuzelas were also to blame for their 0-2 loss to Mexico on Thursday.)

After World Cup organizers refused to ban vuvuzelas from South Africa stadiums, several networks have taken matters into their own hands. Sky Deutschland in Germany and Canal Plus in France have both begun filtering out the blaring noise. Both broadcasters aired a vuvuzela-free version of Wednesday's South Africa vs. Uruguay match. Canal Plus used a special sound filter developed by Paris-based Audionamix, while Sky combined several different filters to get the right sound.

"The viewers loved it, we got thank you calls, which never happens. Usually people only call in if they want to complain," said Sky spokesman Ralph Further.

The BBC plans to follow suit, promising to filter the vuvuzela sound from England's Friday-night match against Algeria.

But many broadcasters are worried dampening the noise could also dampen commentators' voices, making them sound robotic. Univision, which is carrying World Cup games for Spanish-speaking fans in the U.S., is monitoring sound levels but has so far opted not to filter.

Our goal is to provide the best viewing experience for our audience and we feel that the vuvuzelas are an important part of living the games," said Alina Falcon, president of News at Univision Communications. "We strive to strike a balance so that our commentators come across clearly without losing the natural passion and excitement of the crowds."

German public broadcasters ARD and ZDF have taken a similar tack, although for German matches, the networks say they will filter the live feed slightly to minimize vuvuzela noise. "I think people have gotten used to it, there are fewer complaints now than there were at the beginning of the tournament," a ZDF spokesman said. "It's part of South Africa, it's part of the atmosphere there. You can't do without it."

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=10947490

What I had to say in the International forum:

I don't know why you South Africans keep feeling the need to justify everything. You will never be able to please everybody and you will never be able to change the minds of those who have already made up their minds.

Let it be, confident in the fact that you have put on a spectacular show and proven all the naysayers wrong. Also be fully aware that nothing is going to be perfect - nothing ever is.

Australians (and I am generalizing) have the biggest ego in the world - nothing compares to them, they are so blissfuly ignorant and so far up their own asses that they have forgotten what shit smells like yet it surrounds them on every level.

Let the people bitch - you as South Africans should sit back and enjoy the show, it is a once in a lifetime opportunity - don't let some ignoramus tell you otherwise.

The more you try to justify things, the more desperate you look. Just let it be and have FUN ! ;)

Anyone got a link to what the filtered version sounds like?

http://www.reuters.com/resources/r/?m=02&d=20100617&t=2&i=132589708&w=390&fh=390&fw=&ll=&pl=&r=2010-06-17T215027Z_08_JM1E66F1I0801_RTRRPP_0_SOCCER-WORLD
A sticker forbidding the blowing of vuvuzelas is seen on a door of a mall in downtown Bloemfontein, June 15, 2010.
REUTERS/Jorge Silva

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there is of course a face book group "Ban-football-from-vuvuzela-concerts"

http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/pages/Ban-football-from-vuvuzela-concerts-/128116680555277?ref=search

i think since south africa lost to uruguay....the vuvu noise have gone down............yay!

so sick and tired of this topic. if it's too loud you're too old.

seen in the portuguese forum

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I love the Vuvuzela, I downloaded the Vuvuzela App for my iphone:D

I noticed that in the last games the noise declined.

we have invented the durban-ela

now this sucker sorts the dubanites from the capie-ites/jhb-ites...etc...

exclusive to MOSES Mmm

SEE...anyone sitting close to you just gets up and moves away.


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Fan Ejected Out Of Yankees Stadium After Blowing Vuvuzela
By STEPHANIE BARISHwpix.com
4:06 PM EDT, June 17, 2010

BRONX (WPIX) - First it was iPads, now add vuvuzelas to the list of items that are not permitted inside Yankee stadium.

During Tuesday's game against the Phillies, Anthony Zachariadis tooted on the excessively loud plastic horn and was ultimately ejected from the game because officials said it was found to be a major distraction to both fans and players alike.

"I blew on it only five or six times - for big plays," Zachariadis told the New York Post.

However, Zachariadis told the newspaper when security officials came to take away the horn, they were met with boos from fans in the bleachers. According to the report, Zachariadis eventually agreed to leave in exchange for the horn.

According to stadium rules, which are listed on the team's website, "blow horns and all other distracting noisemakers" are prohibited inside the stadium.

Zachariadis initially bought several horns online because he had planned on traveling to South Africa for the World Cup. However, when the trip got canceled he decided to bring them along to Yankees Stadium and smuggled them past security guards. He admits to even passing one to a fellow fan.

"Phillies fans would walk by and we would blow it in their ear," he said. "They had a laugh - they knew we were playing with them."

The vuvuzela horn could be seen and heard at many of the games happening this month at the World Cup.

softies hey:banana:...wont happen in AFRICA:nuts:

......if they don't like the vuvuzelas, then they can take the assess to AUSTRALIA.......

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And this is how Argentina is going to win the world cup

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This is too funny!!!

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It is reported that 90% of vuvuzela is made in China , is it true ? Lol , May its sound continue to encourage the left teams to finish their goal ...

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Our Vuvuzelas, Ourselves
Each nation responds to the infernal plastic horn in its own way.
By Anne Applebaum
Posted Monday, June 21, 2010, at 8:03 PM ET
Here is why I love the World Cup: Every four years, it creates a perfectly controlled environment, one in which national characteristics are suddenly illuminated and easily compared. There is none of the chaos of the Olympics, with its confusing mixture of sports and its nationally biased TV transmissions. With only one sport and one tournament, everybody has to watch at the same time, and everybody has the same conversation. This year, that conversation is about fumbled saves, bad penalty calls—and the vuvuzela.

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For those who haven't been following, the vuvuzela is a longish plastic trumpet that produces a buzzing noise, something like an overgrown pennywhistle. When thousands of people blow them all at once, they make a very loud buzzing noise, something like a massive swarm of bees. When played in a World Cup soccer stadium, they create an irritating background hum—one that is capable of ruining the sound on a billion television sets around the world.
In the United States, we Americans have responded pragmatically to this nuisance, treating the vuvuzela as a slightly mystifying foreign addition to a slightly mystifying foreign game and quietly posting online technical advice for those who want to filter out the buzz. But for the Germans, the vuvuzela creates a moral problem. Some angrily demand a ban. Others call the plastic horns "traditional instruments of South American football" and oppose a ban on the grounds that this would demonstrate unacceptably Eurocentric disdain for other cultures. The center-right Die Welt denounced "the intolerance of those who are annoyed by the vuvuzela" and instructed its readers to accept the fact that "vuvuzelas belong to South African football like battle songs belong to German games." The center-left Die Tageszeitung bluntly told its readers to "turn the sound down" on their televisions if they can't accept this foreign custom. Presumably, German archaeologists and anthropologists are already on their way to southern Africa to begin the hunt for ancient sources of colored plastic.
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In France, by contrast, the vuvuzela presents an aesthetic problem: If you can't ban them, integrate them into the artistic canon. Le Monde suggests treating this plastic horn as a genuine instrument, even providing its online readers with links to vuvuzela works composed by one Pedro Espi-Sanchis ("Pedro the Musicman'), a musicologist, musician, and Spanish teacher resident in Cape Town, South Africa. The newspaper Libération last week absorbed the term into its art criticism, condemning a particularly noisy set of installations as "vuvuzelas de l'art contemporain" ("vuvuzelas of contemporary art").
For the South Koreans, the vuvuzela presents complex issues of etiquette. One Korean columnist feared an outright ban would be rude to the host country. But perhaps other "traditional" instruments might be substituted? "Sometimes when percussionists in the stadium are flashed up on the television screen, I ardently wish to hear the sound they make," he wrote. Then he made an attempt at gentle persuasion: "I sincerely hope our African friends will put down the horns and take up other instruments." If persuasion should fail, however," one can find solace in the fact that the games will be adjourned in three weeks." As for the North Koreans, we don't know what they think: Although their official news agency has conceded that the national team is indeed playing in the World Cup, no additional information—not on vuvuzelas and not on rumors that some players tried to defect—is available.

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No such reticence is evident in Britain, where the tabloids accuse the instruments of causing hearing loss, swollen lips, even windpipe rupture. Worse is predicted: British supermarkets are said to be selling out of the instruments, with tens of thousands more on order. These are expected to arrive just in time to ruin the English soccer season next autumn, possibly forever.
This vuvuzela invasion will not be coming from South Africa, of course. For some nations, the vuvuzela is an opportunity, not a problem. Instead of making noise, complaining about noise—or, like the Argentine goalie, blaming the noise for one's mistakes—the Chinese have been manufacturing the noisemakers like crazy. A million vuvuzelas have already been shipped from Zhejiang and Guangdong to South Africa, and more are on their way to the rest of the world. The Guangda Toy Factory in Yiwu has already raised its production to 20,000 per day, according to one report, and the owner says she will continue to produce them "as long as there is market demand."
Which there will be, at least until someone has the good sense to ban them.

Mexican Vuvuzela in 80's ad

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saw a bunch of them at LAX yesterday on mexican supporters. Apparently 15 000 sold to some baseball team for their supporters and the players complaining already. Also at a mets game last week a guy was removed for playing one

u can buy them anywhere - they use them at hockey games too- but they only use em at certain times...

oh and youtube has added a vuvuzela thingie - so you can watch any video on youtube with the added bonus of a vuvuzela playing throughout the whole time! lol - just click the soccer ball just under the video - near the right...

appears on any youtube video...

http://www.ubergizmo.com/photos/2010/6/youtube-vuvuzela.jpg

YouTube Adds A Vuvuzela Button To Its Videos

http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives/2010/06/youtube_adds_a_vuvuzela_button_to_its_videos.html

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lol!

Get a life dude! Fuçk off!

You could have stayed at home.

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lol!

The best part about that is the guy with the thumbs up in the background!

http://www.thehubsa.co.za/forum/index.php?/topic/75024-uses-for-the-vuvuzela/

I cant get enough of the vuvu waves ...love to hear it at bok games going forward....:banana:

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I cant get enough of the vuvu waves ...love to hear it at bok games going forward....:banana:

what the hell is a vuvu wave...

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its the sound of 30,000ish vuvuss blasting simultaneously, in waves, listen out for it at the next game.... at a game its simply fantastic..conservative kiwis want to ban them for the rugga world cup....such loosers.

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its the sound of 30,000ish vuvuss blasting simultaneously, in waves, listen out for it at the next game.... at a game its simply fantastic..conservative kiwis want to ban them for the rugga world cup....such loosers.

its so insane when they do that.. its like u willing the team to score - or in the case of the boks - cross the tryline..

would love to hear it when john and they boys have a rolling maul going.. can u imagine ..

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its the sound of 30,000ish vuvuss blasting simultaneously, in waves, listen out for it at the next game.... at a game its simply fantastic..conservative kiwis want to ban them for the rugga world cup....such loosers.

Id love to ban the haka same fucking difference

Id love to ban the haka same fucking difference

:lol: sure

saw a bunch of them at LAX yesterday on mexican supporters. Apparently 15 000 sold to some baseball team for their supporters and the players complaining already. Also at a mets game last week a guy was removed for playing one

Such backward wooosies,,:lol:

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who wants to be a URUGUAYAN with 50.000 vuvus going when you`ve got to take the deciding penalty just now.


damn i spoke too soon

wholy wack i was right he stuffed it

yo-yo-yo...

Pilgrims use vuvuzelas to pray


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Durban – Barefoot and dressed in white, thousands of pilgrims gather on a hilltop overlooking Durban blowing on long metal "imbomu" tubes, the forerunner of the vuvuzela.

Every year, faithful from the Nazareth Baptist Church make a pilgrimage to Ebuhleni Mission, where their church's founder Isaiah Shembe lived in the southeastern part of the country.

Pilgrims will make the journey over the course of July to walk along the dirt roads of the poor settlement that lies within sight of Durban's World Cup stadium.

This year's pilgrimage is especially poignant, coming as the church is finalising a deal with the manufacturer of the plastic vuvuzela trumpets that now symbolise South Africa's World Cup.

Under the agreement, Shembe will be recognised as the inventor of the vuvuzela, an instrument his followers say he created a century ago using antelope horns.

Good for the church

"We saw Bill Clinton blowing in a vuvuzela in a stadium. It makes us very proud. It is good for the church," said Enoch Thembu, spokesperson for the evangelical church which claims 5.2 million followers across southern Africa.

The pilgrimage in their holy month of July is far removed from the World Cup celebrations in Durban, where surfers and bikini-clad fans watch games on jumbo screens on the beach to the relentless hum of vuvuzelas – a noise seen either as joyous or maddening.

In this settlement, the sound is harmonious.

"It's all in the blowing," explained Thembu.

"We don't blow it for 90 minutes when it is a soccer game. You have to stop and you sing. Then you give the opponents the time to play their song. It must entertain people, not irritate them," he said.

Sound of hymns

To the sound of hymns accompanied by imbomus, the pilgrims known simply as the Shembe enter a field dominated by the statue of their founder, considered an African Messiah.

Men with walking sticks and women in traditional hats or white veils erupt into cheers at the mere glimpse of one of Shembe's descendants behind a window.

Mixing Christianity and African traditions, the Shembe base their beliefs on the Old Testament. They practise polygamy, and they avoid pork.

The village's shops sell leopard skins and springbok tails, elements of traditional dress. Sex is forbidden during the pilgrimage, as is medication. Any ailments are treated with prayers, water and Vaseline.

Before entering, the faithful must purify themselves by donating a small amount of money.

Big ambitions

Despite their traditional beliefs, the Shembe have big ambitions for their newly recognised claim to the vuvuzela.

They want to claim intellectual property rights to the instrument and cash in on its manufacturing.

"Our aim is to make jobs for South African workers and to generate some income for the church to look after the widows, the orphans and the destitute people," Thembu said.

According to him, South African firm Masincedane Sport made at least 60 million plastic vuvuzelas before the World Cup, and the Shembe want at least a small slice of that pie.

"We have to give a job to all these people," Thembu said.


http://www.sport24.co.za/Soccer/WorldCup/NationalNews/Pilgrims-use-vuvuzelas-to-pray-20100705

so there.....vuvus have overtaken didgeridoes in infamy

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Are NZ scary of losing or feel like chasing by swarm of angry bee?

Kiwis ban vuvuzelas at Tri-Nations

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=6&click_id=4&art_id=nw20100707104837671C363167

Wellington - New Zealand stadium authorities have moved swiftly to ensure the vuvuzelas providing an ear-splitting backdrop to the soccer World Cup in South Africa are unlikely to be heard at next year's rugby equivalent.

The long plastic horns, likened to the sound of a swarm of angry bees, have already been banned from this weekend's Tri-Nations opener between the All Blacks and South Africa in Auckland and other stadiums are set to follow suit.

"I think it's a judgment call on whether to let in certain items," Eden Park's chief executive David Kennedy told NZPA on Wednesday.

"There are 25,000 people expected to turn up to the test match this weekend and any vuvuzelas brought to the venue will be confiscated."

Christchurch's AMI stadium officials are also likely to slap a ban on the trumpets for the Bledisloe Cup clash between New Zealand and Australia on Aug. 7.

"We would be concerned about the potential for them to spoil the experience for fans at the stadiums," said Bryan Pearson, the chief executive of venue management company VBase.

"Given the experience at the soccer World Cup, I can't see that that sort of deafening drone is going to be in any way well received by fans at AMI stadium." - Reuters

yes they are...they never invented anything in their lives...they dont have anything to shout about...you must see those miss match stadiums of theirs...i couldnt imagine spending my dosh flying the whole way to that no where corner of the planet to sit in those 70s style stadiums...they can buzz off.

Heard my first one in Central London yesterday. It was quite a bit louder than I expected. I can only imagine how deafening a stadium full of them must be!

no you cant if you havent been there ...its amazing just faaaantastic.

I loved the vuvuzelas. I took mine to every game and had fun. There were locals in the stadium who didnt like the sound. WTF ? I am a foreigner who embraced it.
I brought home 2 vuvu's and everyone at work is asking me abt it.

I loved the vuvuzelas. I took mine to every game and had fun. There were locals in the stadium who didnt like the sound. WTF ? I am a foreigner who embraced it.
I brought home 2 vuvu's and everyone at work is asking me abt it.

I hope people will understand that its fun blowing it. Players who know its backing them will feel high by its sound, and the opposite will be annoyed and put off by that noise. Thats its convenience.:)

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what kind of dweeb will buy that cd

they used to say the same about the squeeze box acordian...it became acceptablee..vuvu wave rocks.

Thought this was great!! A lot of Irish people have been slagging the vuvuzela off in the pubs I've been to but that hasn't stopped me (and the person at the end of my street) from belting ours out at every concievable chance... looks like there will be more of us soon! :)


In Pictures: Jay-Z and Vampire Weekend rock Oxegen
Saturday, 10 July 2010

They have been a constant soundtrack to the World Cup and now the droning sound of the ubiquitous vuvuzela is threatening to drown out the Oxegen festival.

For the estimated 35,000 people who slept in the campsites at Punchestown last night and Thursday night, it was as if Cape Town had come to Kildare.

The unmistakable cacophony of the metre-long vuvuzela horn, which can reach 135 decibels, is on sale at Oxegen this year for €10.

“We didn't get a minute of sleep. The vuvuzelas were going all night. We can't get the sound of them out of our heads this morning,” said Chris McBeth (18) from Co Down who was camping with his girlfriend Nuala Gaffney (18) from Letterkenny.

“I bought my vuvuzela on a stall up here. It's my revenge for having to listen to them all the way though the World Cup,” said Corkman Ryan Pettit-Mee (20).

Despite the din, the first full day of the Oxegen music festival took place at Punchestown, Co Kildare, yesterday with sets from Arcade Fire, Jay- Z and Groove Armada.

A further 30,000 fans had descended on Punchestown with AA Roadwatch saying no major delays had been reported and that traffic was moving well on the M7 Limerick/Dublin and the N81 Dublin/Tullow routes. Unfortunately for revellers the festival was hit by intermittent rain throughout the day.

But not everybody was unhappy. “We brought 1,500 Oxegen Wellington boots and sold all of them at €25. The problem is that we've exhausted our whole stock and don't have any more wellies to sell,” said Becky Bullen, in charge off clothes stall Joe Bananas.

In contrast with previous years, when heavy downpours left Punchestown a muddy mess, rain this year was less of a problem with more than €1.5m spent in recent years putting in permanent and temporary roadways.

For the celebrity spotters, there were reports that Beyonce, wife of Friday's headline performer Jay-Z, was spotted in a Centra in Naas.

Read more: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/entertainment/music/news/in-pictures-jayz-and-vampire-weekend-rock-oxegen-14872026.html#ixzz0tJLNumW2


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try sitting in a stadium in rsa when the vuvu wave hits.....HUGE HUGE HUGE HUGE VIBE.

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try sitting in a stadium in rsa when the vuvu wave hits.....HUGE HUGE HUGE HUGE VIBE.

I imagine that is the sound that you would hear inside of a space ship being kidnapped by aliens. Or its like being part of the Borg collective. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE

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The inventor of the vuvuzela: will ferrell

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[QUOTE=DennisRodman817;60452053]The inventor of the vuvuzela: will ferrell

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hooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooles. :lol:

I'll try by all means to take it as a joke. Thats what its meant to be right?

English clubs ban vuvuzelas
By Sports Network
Last Updated: July 20, 2010 2:01pm

Tottenham became the first English Premier League club to ban vuvuzelas Tuesday, and fellow London side Arsenal followed suit.

The vuvuzela, a plastic horn that produces a humming sound, was prominent at the recent FIFA World Cup in South Africa. FIFA considered banning the musical horn at the matches in South Africa but did not.

A number of English Championship clubs previously banned the vuvuzela, and the Spurs announced on their website "the club will not be permitting vuvuzelas or similar instruments into White Hart Lane on match days."

Tottenham also revealed it was concerned the horn may pose "unnecessary risks to public safety and could impact on the ability of all supporters to hear any emergency safety announcements."

Arsenal also announced on its website it has decided to "forbid the use of vuvuzelas within Emirates Stadium with immediate effect.

"This decision has been taken to ensure the enjoyment and safety of supporters on match days, which is of paramount importance to the club."

Birmingham, Everton, Fulham, Liverpool, West Ham and Sunderland later joined the list of clubs banning the vuvuzela.

I watched LFCTV on Saturday, they interviewed the public in Liverpool, they seemed pretty cool on us using it for the World Cup but they wont have it in their city, so I dont see the need for clubs to be "banning" them if none of the supporters will use them. Plus whats up with it being for "safety reasons"

I don't understand it either. At the Women's U 20 World Cup you can hear an occasional vuvu in the crowd but nothing more. How is that disturbing or dangerous?

its a stupid sound ...i dont know why u south africans dont it....why did south african rugby ban them at the rugby games cuz the sound sucks....about time somebody ban them....its good to blow for fun but its deafening watching football on the tv.

Italian man fires shots in vuvuzela rage

An Italian man fired shots from a rifle and rammed his car into a bar after being driven mad by the incessant blowing of vuvuzela trumpets, the noisy instruments which became notorious during the World Cup in South Africa.

The 51-year-old, who has not been named, exploded with rage after enduring hours of listening to the plastic horns being blown in the Coco Bamboo bar in the village of Pievebelvicino near Vicenza, in north-eastern Italy.

He first grabbed a rifle and fired shots into the air, but the warning had no effect on those in the bar.

So he then jumped into his car and rammed it at least three times through the windows of the drinking hole, sending drinkers inside scattering in panic. Miraculously, no one was hurt.

The man fled the scene but later turned himself into a local hospital.

He was arrested by police and will undergo treatment in a psychiatric unit.

south africa: in the words of steve urkel "look what you did"

^^ the reason they were banned from rugby, is because rugby tactics and the flow of the game consist waaaaaaay more set pieces where players need to shout very specific instructions. that's all. it's not an emotional decision. one man freaks out and you call that an argument? other people freak out in the traffic. should we ban traffic now. i know of way more foreigners who like vuvuzelas and bought some for themselves.

^^ the reason they were banned from rugby, is because rugby tactics and the flow of the game consist waaaaaaay more set pieces where players need to shout very specific instructions. that's all. it's not an emotional decision. one man freaks out and you call that an argument? other people freak out in the traffic. should we ban traffic now. i know of way more foreigners who like vuvuzelas and bought some for themselves.

I totally agree that the Vuvuzela won’t work at Rugby game, the same goes for cricket game, even though I sometimes think they need it in the 5 day games. If England ban the vuvuzela , because they prefer to sing, that’s ok. I think that some people should just try and attend different sports and they will release what works and what doesn’t.

I hate noise vuvuzela

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Their is a difference between someone not liking the noise of the vuvuzela and the vuvuzela deserving to be banned. I at times did not like when teams scored and youd hear nothing but a faint cheer drowned out by the vuvuzelas, but at no time did i question whether it should be banned. When a team scores or a play of interest happens, south africans pick up their vuvuzela and use it for what its meant to be used for; a loud droning buzzing noise. This is the same as fans singing songs as fans will sing throughout the match and sa'ans blow their vuvuzela throughout the match. And the case can be made that its annoying having to hear the same chants over and over, which can be compared to the vuvuzela, the same noise over and over. And just like the singing fans when a goal is scored who will sing louder, sa'ans do the same and the vuvuzelas become louder when a goal is scored. The songs and drums and what not are also used for the same reason as the vuvuzela which is to cheer on and create a dauting setting for the oppposing team.While this sound might be at times annoying it essentially does the same as drums or trumpets or songs coming from the stands, which is make noise. So, in conclusion, the vuvuzela should not be banned because it is the same as any other instrument just with a different tone to it.

Thanks Chileno. people just dont respect it coz its an African thing and not invented in Europe. to Europe, anything African is inferior and not fit for.

i was at the manchester united vs. airtricity xi game at the new aviva stadium in dublin last week and low and behold there was the odd vuvuzela being blown... if u were listening in to the charity shield the other day too you'd have heard them. :)

Vuvuzela enters Oxford English Dictionary
By Andrew Gregory 19/08/2010


It blasted its way into our eardrums throughout the World Cup - and now the vuvuzela is set to make a big noise in the dictionary.

The long South African horn was used incessantly through every match in the tournament.

And the vuvuzela is one of more than 2,000 new words and phrases included in the Oxford Dictionary of English for the first time.

Other newcomers include tweetup (a meeting arranged through Twitter), cheeseball (lacking taste or style) and a turducken (a roast dish consisting of a chicken inside a duck inside a turkey).

Paywall (which restricts website access to subscribers only), microblogging (posting short entries on a blog), netbook, viral and defriend have all arrived in our language thanks to the internet.

The financial world has also provided a host of words and phrases, including toxic debt and staycation (a holiday spent in your home country).

And politics has also contributed - with exit strategy, overthinking, catastrophizing (presenting a situation as considerably worse than it is) and soft skills (personal attributes that let you interact harmoniously with others).

I had no probs with the Vuvu in SA ,took earplugs-never ever wore them.
By the same token you can totally understand Clubs and other sports banning them-everyone has their own traditions and atmosphere they want to preserve.
For me it was a one off-it suited SA

unbelievable ....whats next... the vuvuzela will be inducted into the hall of fame.

Came from UK with my wife for WC2010 and a holiday in Margate, KZN. Bought vuvuzelas -wow! Watched soccer match in Durbs (Holland v Slovakia). Enjoyed it more than any match I have seen in the UK. Vuvuzelas made it for me - much better than English league games with ignoramuses constantly bellowing four letter words and worse.

Thanks SA - you are helping clean up the game! Just get all the locals on the same wavelength and the place will really be humming.

^^ thats the word

Dennis you are totally entitled to your opinion. but don't pretend like others are idiots for disagreeing.

i know i am...but i just think ignorance play a part in some posting on here

UEFA bans vuvuzelas from European matches

Vuvuzelas have been banned from UEFA matches, European football's governing body said on Wednesday, as it sided with chanting and singing in Europe's stadiums.

UEFA told its 53 member associations that it had adopted the ban to protect "Europe's football culture and tradition", adding that "the atmosphere at matches would be changed by the sound of the vuvuzela".

"UEFA has decided that vuvuzelas -- the trumpet that came to prominence at games during this summer's FIFA World Cup in South Africa -- may not be brought into stadiums at matches in UEFA competitions," it announced on its website.

The decision takes immediate effect, days before the kick off the Euro 2012 qualifiers and before the main phases of the Champions League and Europa League get under way this month.

Europe's footballing chiefs took exception to the introduction of "a continuous loud background noise", while acknowledging that in South Africa, "the vuvuzela adds a touch of local flavour and folklore".

The long plastic trumpets brandished by thousands of spectators alternately enchanted or infuriated football supporters, purists, players, coaches and commentators with their incessant soundtrack for the World Cup in South Africa.

Any bans on national league and cup matches in European countries are up to individual associations.

"The magic of football consists of the two-way exchange of emotions between the pitch and the stands, where the public can transmit a full range of feelings to the players," UEFA claimed.

"However, UEFA is of the view that the vuvuzelas would completely change the atmosphere, drowning supporter emotions and detracting from the experience of the game."

The governing body headed by ex-French international star Michel Platini defended a European footballing tradition of "singing, chanting, etc."

National football associations in Europe were told to ensure that clubs involved in UEFA competitions "take all necessary operational measures".

Its not like we really care. we have our own PSL to blow them at.

and we must continue to listen to their tone deaf supporters

Vuvuzelas are just good for SA. DRCongo's League got more better noise than them Vuvus. Thing is the Vuvu hit in Congo is that, if a person is annoying, they tell him to stop their vuvuzela noise.

Vuvuzelas heading for India

New Delhi - Loved and loathed in equal measure, the drone of the vuvuzela will resonate in India for the first time at the Commonwealth Games in October.

The plastic horn, which went on to become Soccer's World Cup soundtrack in South Africa this year, will be part of Delhi's noisy celebration for the October 3-14 multi-sports gathering, organisers said on Thursday.

Even though the cacophony received a resounding thumbs-down in Europe, the chairperson of the event's official merchandising partner, Premier Brands, said the high decibel level should not be a problem in India.

"In India we enjoy sports with lot of noise. We are not like the Europeans," Suresh Kumar said on Friday.

"The organising committee only needs to ensure that the fans are allowed to enter the stadiums with the vuvuzelas and it is not perceived as a security issue."

Kumar refused to share the sales target and where he was sourcing the horns from.

"With just a month to go for the Games to start, we have not set ourselves any target but I can assure you that supply would not be an issue."

Unlike the ones sold in South Africa, the vuvuzelas would be decorated in Indian colours and priced at a little less than $4.

Apart from the company website, vuvuzelas and other official merchandise products could be obtained from mobile vans which will visit schools in the morning and shopping malls and residential areas in the afternoon.

Vuvuzelas symbolised South Africa's passion around the soccer World Cup but were soon consigned to the scrapheap once the final whistle had sounded.

The horns were banned from the Wimbledon tennis grand slam and also from UEFA competitions such as the Champions League, Europa League and Euro 2012 qualifiers.

The vuvuzelas, however, are expected to be a hit in a country where loud celebrations are part of life and where cricket crowds are often so noisy that umpires struggle to detect edges.

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The Malawi football fraternity has delved into the debate over the growing ban of vuvuzelas, especially in Europe, with the Football Association of Malawi (FAM) describing it as a mere campaign against an exclusive African invention.

There is nothing wrong for Africa to have its rational way of celebrating football different to that of Europe, FAM chief administration officer, Suzgo Nyirenda says.

"We should be proud to have invented the vuvuzela which made the World Cup final special. In Mexico, they had Mexican wave and nobody condemned it," Nyirenda says.

Absence of concrete proof that the long plastic horns pose a health hazard, make the anti-vuvuzelas campaign baseless, according to Blantyre's Bullets FC administrator, Trouble Kalua.

"It's an anti-African philosophy. They are against a thing developed and popularised exclusively in Africa," Kalua argues.

Flames goalkeeper Swadick Sanudi has played in South Africa under the vuvuzelas' atmosphere and he disagrees with the trumpets' condemnation.

"If you looked at the trend at the World Cup, most of the players and teams that were against the vuvuzelas were on the losing end," says the African Warriors keeper.

Uefa this week banned fans from taking vuvuzelas into stadiums for European Championship, Europa League and Champions League matches.

Uefa say the plastic trumpets "are not appropriate in Europe" because they drown out fans' traditional songs and emotional responses to action on the field.

Vuvuzelas made the 2010 World Cup unique with every match accompanied by a low-pitch drone likened to a swarm of buzzing bees.

Fifa ignored repeated calls for vuvuzelas ban.

Several English Premiership clubs have banned the vuvuzelas just like some South Africa rugby grounds.

i predict world war 3 with this vuvuzela saga! plus rulani i still aint got mine in the mail...cmon dude

Lol. you cant give up D. i guess i have to send it.

well send it caswell cmon dude ....dont hesitate cuz i hate the instrument...i wanna use it to annoy some people here.....plz send 3...i wanna use it as a gift to this russian girl who loves it....

Vuvuzelas banned from Europe by Uefa

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The controversial plastic trumpets that divided opinion at the World Cup will not be heard in Europe
By Jonathan Harwood
LAST UPDATED 2:54 PM, SEPTEMBER 1, 2010 ShareThe vuvuzela, the controversial plastic trumpet that provided an unceasing soundtrack to matches throughout the World Cup, will not be allowed to drown out the songs and chants of European football supporters in Europe. The instrument – if you can call it that - has been outlawed by Uefa.

Uefa said this morning it had made the decision "for reasons related to Europe's football culture and tradition". The ban will apply to all Uefa-sanctioned matches, including Euro 2012 qualifiers and Champions League and Europa League games.

"The magic of football consists of the two-way exchange of emotions between the pitch and the stands," said Uefa, "where the public can transmit a full range of feelings to the players.

"Uefa is of the view that the vuvuzelas would completely change the atmosphere, drowning supporter emotions and detracting from the experience of the game."

Vuvuzelas divided opinion during the World Cup. Some fans felt that they contributed to the unique atmosphere inside the stadia, but others were less impressed by the din. Many of the players were unhappy, too. "Those trumpets?” said Spanish midfielder Xabi Alonso. "That noise I don't like... Fifa must ban those things ... it is not nice to have a noise like that."

Fifa, the world governing body, refused to take action against the vuvuzela in South Africa because it was reckoned to be part of local footballing culture - although some commentators pointed out that it only became commonplace in recent years.

Uefa’s decision echoes that of many clubs in England, among them Arsenal and Spurs. The Gunners took the decision in order to "ensure the enjoyment and safety of supporters", or in other words, protect fans from the racket. Spurs expressed concern that they would drown out stadium announcements



Read more: http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/68029,sport,football,vuvuzelas-banned-from-europe-by-uefa#ixzz0yjur7JXF

They can ban it from sticking it in their asses as well. its not like we care.

OMG, this is HILARIOUS.

Gandalf goes to the WC....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7B2LPxggvqY

Lol Haha roman. I still hate the horns even with all the funny jokes.

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