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Xusein

June 7th, 2010, 07:45 AM

Somalia | Soomaaliya | الصومال‎ ‎

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Somalia does not have a country gallery here like other countries, I believe it is time for one. Although it is in a state of civil war in certain areas, it is still a part of Africa and it's hidden beauty deserves to be shown in my opinion.

If you have pictures of Somalia, you are welcome to post them here.

Xusein

June 7th, 2010, 07:55 AM

As a point of reference, here are threads of Somali cities in this forum that have been already made.

Daynile (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1136901)

Bosaso (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1135307)

Mogadishu (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=594297)

Berbera (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=524370)

Hargeisa (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=389193)

Another thread on Mogadishu (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1012947)

Puntland State of Somalia (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=655546)

Somali Cities/Towns (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=561863)

Xusein

June 7th, 2010, 08:10 AM

Let's start in the South.

Unlike common thought, Somalia is not a totally desert nation.

The most extreme southern part of the country is not only fertile, but green.

The Jubba River, in the southwest, is Somalia's most important river and the only one that is totally navigable and does not dry at all.

Here is a picture of the Jubba from an airplane.

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Here is a picture of an important town on the Jubba, called Baardheere, in the Gedo region.

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Xusein

June 7th, 2010, 08:39 AM

Banana plantation outside Mogadishu, mangos on the left

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Xusein

June 7th, 2010, 09:02 AM

Herding livestock is still a very important profession among the Somali people, and culturally very important to our heritage and history.

A classic Somali sheep, you can tell it is Somali when it has a black head. :)

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Somalia has more camels than any country in the world.

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Xusein

June 7th, 2010, 09:27 AM

Sanaag Highlands in the north.

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desert burner

June 7th, 2010, 09:43 AM

^^gorgeous:cheers:

Xusein

June 7th, 2010, 10:20 AM

Indeed, I'd love to visit one day during the Gu (wet) season. :cheers:

i'll post more pics later...

I.M Boring

June 7th, 2010, 01:38 PM

So there are farms in Somalia? I guess you learn something new every day ;)

how long is the "Gu"?

Also, how large a part of Somalia does the Jubba river cover?

Yoniii

June 7th, 2010, 01:49 PM

Beautiful photos Xusein, keep 'em coming!

I would loved to see recent photos of Somalia. How do the Northen cities that are relatively peaceful look like? There are stories on how fancy the "pirates" live, driving big american cars etc.. Any photos from those closed communities?

Also, how large a part of Somalia does the Jubba river cover?

"The Jubba River (Somali: Webi Jubba) is a river in southern Somalia. It begins at the border with Ethiopia, where the Dawa and Ganale Dorya rivers meet, and flows directly south to the Indian Ocean, where it empties at the Goobweyn juncture." - Wikipedia

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Ras Siyan

June 7th, 2010, 06:37 PM

SANAAG REGION

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Ras Siyan

June 7th, 2010, 06:39 PM

SANAAG Waterfalls

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desert burner

June 8th, 2010, 08:16 PM

i love it keep them coming :cheers:

StormShadow

June 9th, 2010, 09:55 PM

Good gallery, Xusein! Feel free to update those specific urban Somali threads if you wish. I will do so, when I have more free time.

jeffb

June 11th, 2010, 03:49 PM

Brings back memories does that especially seeing the pics of the Juba river. Good old days:banana:

Jeff

Ras Siyan

June 18th, 2010, 10:12 AM

Somalia has Africa's longest sea coast, too bad there are not a lot of pictures available, but here are some:

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abesha

June 18th, 2010, 11:47 AM

Beautiful pics. I'm embarrassed to admit that I thought it was just one big flat desert. Highlands and tropical farms were unexpected.

Yoniii

June 18th, 2010, 01:49 PM

Beautiful pics. I'm embarrassed to admit that I thought it was just one big flat desert. Highlands and tropical farms were unexpected.
Same here, I was surprised to see tourists on the beach as well.

aminechangchun

June 19th, 2010, 08:54 AM

WAW!!!!

Same here , i tought it was an arid desert!!

That's a shame a country like this is in a civil war!!! :ohno:

ufookoro

June 20th, 2010, 06:44 PM

What potential going to waste. Very sad. Even the citizens do not freely enjoy these scenes due to the civil troubles.

Xusein

June 20th, 2010, 08:03 PM

Somalia is a mostly semiarid grassland country. There are places that could apply as full-blown desert, but they are in the minority.

Compare it to say, Western Texas.

The only places that I would consider to be HOT are on the northern and northeastern coasts where it gets above 40 degrees in the daytime and might not even get below 30 at night. Further inland, the nights get colder and you might need a sweater if in the highlands. Many of the higher towns have a pretty pleasant climate year round. I have never been to southern towns, but I have heard that humidity is a problem there, and don't expect any cool temps since Somalia straddles the Equator and even goes below it in the extreme south.

jeffb

June 20th, 2010, 10:51 PM

Beautiful pics. I'm embarrassed to admit that I thought it was just one big flat desert. Highlands and tropical farms were unexpected.

Thats what i thought, when i found out my dad was working in Somalia in the early 80's. How wrong was i

Xusein

August 6th, 2010, 11:15 AM

Bump.

Some pics of Bossaso that I found on the net. Bit small, but nice...:)

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Xusein

August 6th, 2010, 11:21 AM

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Xusein

August 6th, 2010, 11:26 AM

Street scenes

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Xusein

August 6th, 2010, 11:29 AM

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Ras Siyan

August 6th, 2010, 04:44 PM

Nice pics of Somalia, and Bosaso seems better than I expected (just visited Borama and Hargeisa). Thanks for the pics Xusein!!!! Please go on, we need more pics on this beautiful country.

Any pics on regions such as Gedo and Bay, Bakool?

Xusein

August 6th, 2010, 07:22 PM

The first pics on this thread were from Gedo region (Baardheere)...around the Jubba river valley. As for Bay and Bakool, I've found some pics but they aren't really appealing, maybe if I look further I can find better ones. Shame since both regions are/were very beautiful places.

Bossaso is a pretty nice place growing economically but it's too hot. I'd rather go inland personally.

The Nomadic Warrior

August 6th, 2010, 07:50 PM

Yoniii

August 6th, 2010, 07:59 PM

Ras Siyan

August 6th, 2010, 08:00 PM

Somaliland hasn’t progressed at all for 20 years after the liberation same applies to Puntland. Somalis need to realize they are not going to develop at all without a centralized government that can protect investment and provide security for businesses and people alike.

Somalia needs to implement Federalism. This is the way forward, and every clan/tribe has his own region. Then they all come together and pick a leader. I don't see why this is not happening.

Federalism could be a sustainable solution. But as you said, there won't be any progress as long as the current situation prevails. If it is not succeeding, it is due to a lack of political will, remember lots profit from the chaos and would do about anything to keep it this way. They're basically holding a whole nation hostage!

A country with just so much potential (Africa's longest coast, lots of proven oil and gas reserves, fertile lands, strategic location ect...) going to waste.

The Nomadic Warrior

August 6th, 2010, 08:17 PM

Being relatively peaceful and the only democracy in the region is a huge progress considering it's location. It's also seeing a growing economy. This successful region shouldn't be dragged down into the southern mess.

Somaliland has 21 million dollar debt compelled with the fact that trade at Berbera is dead. The economic situation is bleak, high unemployment with no real development. This is the reality, democracy doesn't equate to development.

Literally, you know nothing about Somali politics or Somalis. You embarrass yourself with every post regarding this subject. Don't be a fool, just kept quiet and don't embarrass yourself.

Federalism could be a sustainable solution. But as you said, there won't be any progress as long as the current situation prevails. If it is not succeeding, it is due to a lack of political will, remember lots profit from the chaos and would do about anything to keep it this way. They're basically holding a whole nation hostage!

A country with just so much potential (Africa's longest coast, lots of proven oil and gas reserves, fertile lands, strategic location ect...) going to waste.

I really think Federalism is the solution. Every major tribe gets to manage and dictate their own future. Example, in Somaliland there would be Awdal region, Somaliland region and SSC region. Puntland would be one major state since its one clan dominated. The South is a bit more trickery but it can be done. All those small tribes would create their own mini state with the majority Hawiye dividing up. Along with Ogaden and Marehan creating their own states.

All sub clan issues should be dealt by the elders not the government or outsiders

States would enforce their own laws regarding road law, crime, transport and hospitals. Natural resources would be entitled to the states and would receive royalties and so on. Goverment would receive federal income tax

Federal government job would be to create a constitution, defense policy and foreign polocy.

Federalism in Somalia with Xeer Law is the future

Xusein

August 6th, 2010, 08:32 PM

I'd rather not want this thread to be changed into a political discussion because several times in the past has shown that there are members in the SSC Africa forums that do not have educated opinions about Somalia and apply stereotypes and ramble endlessly about those Al Shabab people as if that is the only thing going on in that country. One of the reasons I created this thread was to show to certain people that Somalia is not the Mad-Max style post-apocalyptic wasteland that the media show it to be.

That said, I will put my personal opinion here. In a perfect system, federalism and devolution would be the best solution in Somalia, with a legal system based on Xeer as well as a limited government in general that basically does the minimum (guarantees infrastructure, health, security, and property rights) and lets business do it's thing. However, with the MAJOR corrupting influences on all sides that keep the country down, I don't think that this will happen anytime soon. Every political establishment in Somalia is dead set against this for personal enrichment reasons.

Trelawny

August 7th, 2010, 04:42 AM

ja'far

August 7th, 2010, 07:35 AM

Somalia is an easy country to get going. It's in a perfect location, surrounded by water. Close to another continent. Just add caribbean beach hotels along the massive coast line.

But the war is terrible!

Asia and Middle East not far.

Somalia has untapped reserves of numerous resounces, including uranium, iron ore, tin, gypsum, bauxite, copper, salt and natural gas. Oil is also believed to be in Somalia.

Yoniii

August 7th, 2010, 12:27 PM

Somaliland has 21 million dollar debt compelled with the fact that trade at Berbera is dead. The economic situation is bleak, high unemployment with no real development. This is the reality, democracy doesn't equate to development.

Literally, you know nothing about Somali politics or Somalis. You embarrass yourself with every post regarding this subject. Don't be a fool, just kept quiet and don't embarrass yourself.

Democracy and stability is obiously very important. There are countries that still hasn't come near any of those two things after a hundred years. For Somaliland to reach this statues after just 20 is incredible, to say the least.

I am positive that Somalilands economy will catch up now that the Saudi livestock sanctions are lifted, this was a vital income source.

Oh and, don't pollute this thread with childish attacks, stay on topic. :)

Ayatulahi

August 7th, 2010, 08:58 PM

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ja'far

August 7th, 2010, 09:50 PM

^^ Great pictures of Hargeysa.. Do u have other photos of other cities, like Burco and Borame? I heard they too are developing fast.

Ayatulahi

August 7th, 2010, 10:02 PM

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Xusein

August 8th, 2010, 03:55 AM

Burco reppin here. :D

Tbite

August 8th, 2010, 07:16 AM

The architecture and environment looks similar to Ethiopia.

Xusein

August 9th, 2010, 06:55 AM

You think so? Maybe the Ogaden and Eastern areas perhaps.

Also, there really is no stark or truly defined boundary between Somalia and Ethiopia...the people are the same on both sides of the border.

The thing that I hate about the recent developments in these places is that there is no uniform architectural style, people just build what the hell they want without any indication of little things such as "aesthetics". The sliding roofs in some of the new houses in these places like these which see plentiful sunshine is a testament of that.

But I guess since urban planning is a novel and almost non-existent concept there, I guess beggars can not be choosers.

Mysterydude

August 21st, 2010, 05:46 PM

It is such a beautiful country. May peace return to somalia.

Constantine MMX

September 11th, 2010, 08:15 PM

Merka, Somalia
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http://farm1.static.flickr.com/150/429458097_ac9948b188.jpghttp://somalifans.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/baraawe.jpg

Hargeisa
http://img.youtube.com/vi/chpOl55O99Q/0.jpg
http://aqoonkaab.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/sheikh.jpg?w=510&h=382
http://www.panoramio.com/photos/original/5108666.jpg
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/3104514.jpg

Constantine MMX

September 12th, 2010, 12:13 AM

Borama
http://harowo.com/uploads/Image/Seeraha%20Boorama/Seeraha%201.JPG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f7/Rays_Hotel_in_Borama.jpg
http://www.somalilandeye.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/yacquub-aadam.jpg
http://www.somaliweyn.com/pages/news/May_07/Sawiro/Hotel_Boorama_Rays.jpg
http://www.afmaal.com/media/ahmedgoo/amoud1.JPG
http://www.somalitalk.com/2007/aug/06aug02.JPG
http://boorama.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/dsc01533.jpg?w=480&h=360

ja'far

September 12th, 2010, 12:33 AM

^^
Thanks for the photo updates.

Are you from Algeria?

Constantine MMX

September 12th, 2010, 12:48 AM

Constantine MMX

September 12th, 2010, 12:51 AM

^^
Thanks for the photo updates.

Are you from Algeria?

No, from Somalia:), Algeria is a beautiful country though.:cheers:

aghiles11

September 12th, 2010, 01:41 AM

Merka, Somalia

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2207/2098352962_fa0b83c98a.jpg

Merka is much like the city of Rabat in Morocco

http://fatihamine.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/rabat21.jpg

ja'far

September 12th, 2010, 01:42 AM

No, born in Somalia:), Algeria is a beautiful country though.:cheers:

What city?:)

Constantine MMX

September 12th, 2010, 02:03 AM

Merka is much like the city of Rabat in Morocco

True, i'm very impressed with the way North Africans and Moroccans in particular have preserved their historic coastal cities, while turning them into money-making tourist machines. There are about a dozen along Somalia's Indian Ocean and Red Sea coasts that have the same potential. I think when calm returns to the country, these places in Somalia should become 'sister cities' of those in the Maghreb, and in the process absorb any advice on preservation and tourism. :)

What city?:)

Mogadishu:
http://i52.tinypic.com/2lm6nx5.jpg

Simfan34

September 12th, 2010, 03:20 PM

The architecture and environment looks similar to Ethiopia.

Really? I don't think so.

The landscape may be harsh, but the architecture and history of this land is just (was?) beautiful, and the sadness of what has happened to Somalia is just heart breaking. You don't mind if I post some videos?

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I have to give it Somalians, feeling the need to rep their country. I feel almost embarrassed when saying I'm Ethiopian... I can't imagine what it would be like if I was Somalian.

Constantine MMX

September 12th, 2010, 05:23 PM

My Ethiopian brother, to the average Somali person self-worth and being happy with your background & heritage is not linked to how well their country is doing at a particular time and period. The average Polish person in 1945 would still feel love for their country despite Warsaw being in utter ruins, the average German of today has every right to be proud of their country rich heritage despite the dark events during the world wars of the past, similarly you have nothing to feel embarrassed about with regards to the Ethiopian people or Ethiopian culture. One however can be frustrated with corrupt governments and criminal elements within their countries and distance themselves from these entities.

Somali people will love their country wether it's a stable cosmopolitan gem in East Africa with thousands of German and Malaysian tourists flocking to its sandy beaches like in the 80s, or when it's hi-jacked by destructive criminal elements like Pirates, or warlords, because it transcends all of this, since no country in history has ever experienced eternal peace or eternal chaos. Imagine Americans giving up when they saw the aftermath of their civil-war on the infrastructure and their society, there would have never been the Reconstruction period that propelled them into what they are today.

Nice quote that captures the meaning of my reply:

"The true test in life does not occur when all is going well. The true test takes place when we are faced with challenges. Some people have a positive attitude towards life only when all is well. However, when the going gets tough, their attitude changes instantly, and they become very negative or are consumed with self pity." - Catherine Pulsifer, from All Is Going Well?

Keep repping your country in good times and bad times, people can only make your feel "inferior", with your own consent, don't allow this to happen. :)

Xusein

September 12th, 2010, 05:41 PM

^^ Well said! :applause:

Soomaaliya ha noolaato!

Simfan34

September 12th, 2010, 09:49 PM

Yoniii

September 12th, 2010, 10:32 PM

Camellete

September 12th, 2010, 10:48 PM

Bari - NW Somalia

http://i43.tinypic.com/2emcvf8.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3550/3384324129_485cbd196d_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3559/3384728721_6f039d1912.jpg

Sanaag - N.Somalia

http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/static.panoramio.com/photos/original/17287322.jpg

http://www.biyokulule.com/buurta%20sanaag.jpg

http://somalitalk.com/2009/mar/05ma201.jpg

Gedo
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c4/Dhadhable.gedo.jpg/799px-Dhadhable.gedo.jpg

http://www.hirda.org/beerta/beerta.JPG

Shabeelada Hoose

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/4707/markatv9.jpg

http://somalifans.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/baraawe.jpg

http://markacadey.banadir24.com/go/images/baraawe.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/188/399152351_ba43413d40.jpg?v=0

http://maayland.com/images/janaale.jpg

Hadaafftimo

http://www.laasqoray.net/images/sawirada_waaweyn/P1000097.JPG

http://www.biyokulule.com/sawiro/sawirada_waaweyn/Hadaafftimo1.jpg

Ras Siyan

September 13th, 2010, 01:45 AM

Somalia, oh dear Somalia. Look at the beauty, the heritage, the historical buildings, the beaches...My prayers will always be with you beautiful Somalia.

It saddens me to see the country in the current state because I have my roots there. My grandparents emigrated to Djibouti but were originally from Somalia (just like a vast proportion of Djibouti population who came from Somalia, Ethiopia, Eritrea and Yemen).
I just hope these historic buildings will be renovated and preserved once peace returns.

Well said Constantine, we love Somalia no matter the current situation, please post more and lets revive this threat!

Waranle

September 13th, 2010, 03:48 PM

Historic

Zeila
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/54/Zayla.jpg

Taleh
http://s5.tinypic.com/2zoc0tu.jpg

Hafun
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/Hafun%2C_Somalia.jpg

Eyl
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ca/Eyl_Castle.jpg

Mogadishu
http://www.fotothing.com/photos/c8f/c8fd60db653915b1afb76063882ec4d8.jpg

Almnara Tower
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/Ancient-Almnara.jpg

Medieval entrance and window frames
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/32/Coral_house_mogadishu.JPG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6d/Somali-window-frame.jpghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2e/Somali_art.jpg

One thing i loved about somalia when i visited their in 2006 besides the food, was the architecture. Their was beautiful architecture everywhere, the sad thing was alot of it was runied or decaying, and most people had no idea of its value, no pictures taken of them or reasearch done on them. Sometimes its sad the amount of reasearch done in Somalia in terms of archaeology, and the same goes for Ethiopia too. Two countries with long histories yet no reasearch or archaeology rarely goes into them.

Constantine MMX

September 14th, 2010, 12:06 AM

http://i54.tinypic.com/2uqnjes.jpg
http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs231.snc3/21859_249897322028_654297028_3468587_3280186_n.jpg
http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs231.snc3/21859_249897332028_654297028_3468588_6476369_n.jpg
http://i46.tinypic.com/2j8e0x.jpg
http://www.somaliaonline.com/mogadishu9.jpg
http://www.somaliaonline.com/mogadishu20.jpg
http://images.snapfish.com/343839%3A723232%7Ffp46%3Dot%3E2347%3D%3A9%3B%3D%3C4%3C%3DXROQDF%3E2323853767535ot1lsi
http://www.ramaasnews.com/images/Picture005.jpg
http://lughaya.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/brbr.JPG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ef/Bosasocityview.jpg
http://www.somaliweyn.com/pages/news/May_07/Sawiro/Cade_Muse_Boosaaso_5.gif
http://www.dhahar.com/maamule/pictures/2078.jpg
http://i51.tinypic.com/2s623yd.jpg

Constantine MMX

September 14th, 2010, 12:16 AM

One thing i loved about somalia when i visited their in 2006 besides the food, was the architecture. Their was beautiful architecture everywhere, the sad thing was alot of it was runied or decaying, and most people had no idea of its value, no pictures taken of them or reasearch done on them. Sometimes its sad the amount of reasearch done in Somalia in terms of archaeology, and the same goes for Ethiopia too. Two countries with long histories yet no reasearch or archaeology rarely goes into them.

I agree, but such is the fate of all architecture in war-time, but Beirut, Sarajevo and practically most European and Asian capitals post-45' have shown us this does not mean it's irreparable. Your other point is very true, the fact that every ancient or medieval map prominently shows the Horn, or mentions the various emporiums trading with the world only tells there are still many interesting things burried beneath the sands or the seas, but one needs stability and funding for such ambitious endeavours, let's hope this happens in the future brother. :cheers:

Simfan34

September 14th, 2010, 12:28 AM

http://www.ramaasnews.com/images/Picture005.jpg

Admas University? That's a school in Addis. Glad to see we're helping Somaliland someway.

Constantine MMX

September 14th, 2010, 12:40 AM

http://www.travelthewholeworld.com/sitebuilder/images/Somalia-Berbera-Telesom-339x455.jpg
http://www.longlivesomaliland.com/IMAGES/Telesom-Tog-Wajaale.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/169or9g.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/t50sae.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/1zxw07k.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/2nktf08.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/2hpo9xv.jpg

Constantine MMX

September 14th, 2010, 12:52 AM

Admas University? That's a school in Addis. Glad to see we're helping Somaliland someway.

Yep, you've got to admire the determination of Somali educators, they have managed to set up universities in every major city and town, most of it from their own pockets and have cleverly created ties with foreign institutions that have either established a campus, or send neccessary equipment. Mogadishu University is a good example, it's in the Top 100 of Africa despite the conflict:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/be/Mogadishu_university.jpg

Simfan34

September 14th, 2010, 02:28 AM

Yep, you've got to admire the determination of Somali educators, they have managed to set up universities in every major city and town, most of it from their own pockets and have cleverly created ties with foreign institutions that have either established a campus, or send neccessary equipment. Mogadishu University is a good example, it's in the Top 100 of Africa despite the conflict:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/be/Mogadishu_university.jpg

I know. The Somalis are such enterprising people! Imagine what would happen if the chaos ended!

Xusein

September 14th, 2010, 03:54 AM

Simfan34

September 14th, 2010, 03:59 AM

ja'far

September 14th, 2010, 04:02 AM

@Xusien

True. However, Mogadishu University looks great. I totally ddin't expect it.

Xusein

September 14th, 2010, 04:13 AM

It's really no worse than Addis- and we have a government. The fact that this is happening without one (an unrecognized government really can't provide all those services) is amazing in itself.

Perhaps amazing, but it shows the limits of the status quo.

What I am beckoning to hear is when the business class starts demanding those bottom-feeding politicians to actually use their money to develop infrastructure. They are at a strong competitive disadvantage atm as it drives up costs (although this applies to most of Africa I guess too).

Simfan34

September 14th, 2010, 04:23 AM

Perhaps amazing, but it shows the limits of the status quo.

What I am beckoning to hear is when the business class starts demanding those bottom-feeding politicians to actually use their money to develop infrastructure. They are at a strong competitive disadvantage atm as it drives up costs (although this applies to most of Africa I guess too).

But where would they get their supplies from? They can't trade overseas, as they formally don't exist.

Xusein

September 14th, 2010, 04:30 AM

The government? No, they can't. But they can get the materials from trading companies that already import the stuff.

Oh, and whoever creates a concrete factory there one day will be a rich man indeed.

I literally have many ideas that can help, but they need solid property rights/laws before making a plunge.

Constantine MMX

September 14th, 2010, 02:16 PM

http://i53.tinypic.com/23vixaa.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_qqz1p9_Lp9k/TE15QNb2lPI/AAAAAAAAECU/kwwF_xLgT3w/s400/Pink+house+terrace.JPG
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_qqz1p9_Lp9k/TE15P4oYPUI/AAAAAAAAECM/THEpQrQgHn4/s400/Pink+house+pool+table.JPG
http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/18340217.jpg
http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/32813145.jpg
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_A6wTr02fB5s/S66c8bK4DbI/AAAAAAAADcA/Ns_kqmnq7jg/SDC10652.jpg

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/1185/xamar2.jpg
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/5558/xamar1.jpg
http://i55.tinypic.com/okvjih.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/03/Hasowya.JPG
http://static4.bareka.com/photos/medium/26443275.jpg
http://static4.bareka.com/photos/medium/26443083.jpg
http://static2.bareka.com/photos/medium/26443117.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1287/1278205038_a4cdf718c8.jpg

Constantine MMX

September 14th, 2010, 02:31 PM

Man, although I like the fact that development is abound in places like Hargeysa, I really dislike the architectural style of some of the projects.

The design of that Telesom building is outrageous! And it doesn't look very applicable to the climate. They don't even hold a candle to the old styles.

I am also looking forward to the day that the electrical grid is modernized and put underground. Another horrible thing about Somali cities is that you see feeble cable lines all over the city, and they are very ugly. Infrastructure is very neglected, I believe many of the richer parts of Hargeysa don't even have fully paved roads.

Great pictures though, keep them coming. And welcome Constantine MMX to the forum. :)

:lol: One of the Somali designers must have grown up watching the Jetsons, or there is Jaad involved :nuts:, still not bad though, quite interesting actually. Your are right about the electric cables, those should be rectified immediately, not just for aesthetic reasons but also for the safety of the people walking under them. Luckily massive storms are unheard of in Somali cities.

Even in the developed west this is an issue some places are plagued with (read story (http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2010/08/friday-question-of-the-day-how-impt-are-buried-power-lines-to-you/)). During the Istanbul conference this year five major Somali companies created Trans-National Industrial Electricity and Gas Company (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-National_Industrial_Electricity_and_Gas_Company), with a one billion dollar budget that will revitalise and construct important infrastructure, the issue of electric cables could be addressed to them through a campaign of sorts.

Thanks for the welcome!:)

Constantine MMX

September 14th, 2010, 02:41 PM

Beautiful piece of history: Somali Prime Minister A. A. Sharmarke meeting US president
John F. Kennedy. Washington DC, Nov 1962 on a Official state visit.

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If he had survived the assassination, the military would have no justification to stage a coup, and Somalis would have maintained their title as a great example of African Democrats.

Waranle

September 14th, 2010, 05:23 PM

Ras Siyan

September 14th, 2010, 09:49 PM

During the Istanbul conference this year five major Somali companies created Trans-National Industrial Electricity and Gas Company (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-National_Industrial_Electricity_and_Gas_Company), with a one billion dollar budget that will revitalise and construct important infrastructure, the issue of electric cables could be addressed to them through a campaign of sorts.

:applause::applause: Excellent news! Its time the private sector steps in to fill in the gap.
That's what I love about Somalians, how a whole country is running without a central government, a stability and where basic services (electricity, water, telecommunications& internet) are provided by private companies. And amazingly for me, these services are 10 times cheaper than ours! Sectors such as the telecommunications are a fine example.

Ras Siyan

September 14th, 2010, 09:54 PM

ja'far

September 14th, 2010, 10:10 PM

Yep, you've got to admire the determination of Somali educators, they have managed to set up universities in every major city and town, most of it from their own pockets and have cleverly created ties with foreign institutions that have either established a campus, or send neccessary equipment. Mogadishu University is a good example, it's in the Top 100 of Africa despite the conflict:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/be/Mogadishu_university.jpg

Wlcm to SSC.
You brought this threat to life. Many thanks bro.

Ras Siyan

September 14th, 2010, 10:16 PM

Wlcm to SSC.
You brought this threat to life. Many thanks bro.

I second to that! Soo dhowow!

Xusein

September 15th, 2010, 02:17 AM

Even in the developed west this is an issue some places are plagued with (read story (http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2010/08/friday-question-of-the-day-how-impt-are-buried-power-lines-to-you/)). During the Istanbul conference this year five major Somali companies created Trans-National Industrial Electricity and Gas Company (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-National_Industrial_Electricity_and_Gas_Company), with a one billion dollar budget that will revitalise and construct important infrastructure, the issue of electric cables could be addressed to them through a campaign of sorts.

Interesting stuff, although I read about it a fair amount ago. Not trying to sound negative. Either way, infrastructural improvement is BADLY needed for economic development in the future...makes me mad to think about the wastes in efficiency and money that have happened for businesses for years since the fall of Afweyne's government. Still, great news no doubt!

Constantine MMX

September 15th, 2010, 05:37 PM

Thanks for the warm welcome brothers!:cheers:

Here are some pics from completed projects by EAMECO (http://www.eameco.com/) in Mogadishu(the same guys who constructed the above Mogadishu campus):

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs371.snc3/23848_1345419310227_1073582064_1055832_4562273_n.jpg
http://www.eameco.com/images/Simad_bldg.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_GWb0Dc27Z94/TASWCXW3ACI/AAAAAAAAAG0/fNBwMVDWECk/S485/3054_72511688906_542443906_1872387_5638247_n.jpg
http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2629/187/124/63914806/n63914806_35538372_5010817.jpg
http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2629/187/124/63914806/n63914806_35538373_1041657.jpg
http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2629/187/124/63914806/n63914806_35538370_210916.jpg
http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2629/187/124/63914806/n63914806_35538367_6798691.jpg
http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2629/187/124/63914806/n63914806_35538368_3121839.jpg
http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2629/187/124/63914806/n63914806_35538362_1825201.jpg
http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2629/187/124/63914806/n63914806_35538363_3675636.jpg
http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2629/187/124/63914806/n63914806_35538364_8326135.jpg
http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2629/187/124/63914806/n63914806_35538360_8130526.jpg
http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2629/187/124/63914806/n63914806_35538361_3374146.jpg
http://www.eameco.com/images/ph.jpg
http://www.eameco.com/images/ph6j.jpg
http://www.eameco.com/images/PH1.jpg
http://www.eameco.com/images/ph6.jpg
http://www.eameco.com/images/ph2.jpg

Constantine MMX

September 15th, 2010, 06:14 PM

Oriental
http://www.orientalhotelhargeisa.com/images/restauranttop.jpg
http://i51.tinypic.com/2j3sgeg.jpg
http://www.biyokulule.com/sawiro/sawirada_waaweyn/Hargeysa-oriental%20hotel2.jpg
http://www.orientalhotelhargeisa.com/pages/images/Picture%20308.jpg
http://www.orientalhotelhargeisa.com/pages/images/Picture%20309.jpg

Maan-Soor
http://i52.tinypic.com/24b2s12.jpg
http://maan-soor.com/cafteria.jpg
http://maan-soor.com/Hall%201.jpg
http://i54.tinypic.com/2zykier.jpg

Ras Siyan

September 15th, 2010, 07:44 PM

^^^^Beautiful villas you got there, thanks Constantine, keep them coming...

Yoniii

September 15th, 2010, 10:00 PM

I like the white houses and bright colors in general, it gives the unique touch compared to most large cities in Africa. Kinda like the houses on Greek islands, really nice!

Simfan34

September 15th, 2010, 10:28 PM

If he had survived the assassination, the military would have no justification to stage a coup, and Somalis would have maintained their title as a great example of African Democrats.

What was Shermarke's position towards Ethiopia? I'm guessing it was pretty reasonable.

But I have to say, A.A. Shermarke does not sound Somali at all. :lol:

Xusein

September 15th, 2010, 10:32 PM

Abdirashid Ali Shermarke is a full 100% Somali name. ;)

Foreign relations wasn't very important back then btw.

Simfan34

September 15th, 2010, 11:07 PM

Abdirashid Ali Shermarke is a full 100% Somali name. ;)

Foreign relations wasn't very important back then btw.

"Abdirashid Ali" sounds Somali for sure, but "Shermarke" sounds rather English.

Are you saying he had no position?

Xusein

September 15th, 2010, 11:14 PM

Well, it's not. It is a ethnic Somali name (while Abdirashid Ali is not).

In the sixties, Somalia was a nonaligned country and with the exception of a border clash with Kenya, not much happened. Of course Somalia was agitated about the Ogaden being part of Ethiopia, but the tensions did not get worse until later when Siad Barre was in power.

Simfan34

September 16th, 2010, 03:27 AM

Well, I won't claim to be an expert on Somali names. :lol:

Waranle

September 16th, 2010, 01:09 PM

kush-boy

September 18th, 2010, 06:49 PM

N. East(Bari), Caluula's unique Landscape

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_MNrOSeZNN5M/SBIuVO9KrDI/AAAAAAAABnk/cjO8YzTTA0s/s640/Bild%20172.jpg

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_MNrOSeZNN5M/SBIvhu9KrNI/AAAAAAAABo0/Kb3A1QeO3BE/s640/Bild%20182.jpg

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_MNrOSeZNN5M/SBIvbu9KrMI/AAAAAAAABos/YuNp7K8bnQc/s640/Bild%20181.jpg

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_MNrOSeZNN5M/SBIvpe9KrOI/AAAAAAAABo8/7k52u4tcfNI/s640/Bild%20183.jpg

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_MNrOSeZNN5M/SBIu3-9KrHI/AAAAAAAABoE/jpVoWhb0vE0/s640/Bild%20176.jpg

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_MNrOSeZNN5M/SBIuQ-9KrCI/AAAAAAAABnY/7rCBS-2EdLc/s640/Bild%20171.jpg

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_MNrOSeZNN5M/SBIv1-9KrQI/AAAAAAAABpM/JORINm_xKpo/s640/Bild%20185.jpg

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_MNrOSeZNN5M/SBIxK-9KrdI/AAAAAAAABq4/mw_f1RCzPdo/s640/Bild%20198.jpg

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_MNrOSeZNN5M/SBItV-9Kq7I/AAAAAAAABmg/AlnBx5_3pCk/s640/Bild%20164.jpg

kush-boy

September 18th, 2010, 06:52 PM

Dates farm in Caluula

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_MNrOSeZNN5M/SBIxiO9KrgI/AAAAAAAABrQ/x85Li3fiEJc/s640/Bild%20201.jpg

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_MNrOSeZNN5M/SBIyH-9KrlI/AAAAAAAABr8/My1ZK824ELY/s640/Bild%20206.jpg

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_MNrOSeZNN5M/SBIyAu9KrkI/AAAAAAAABrw/CTZl28XlsAg/s640/Bild%20205.jpg

Xusein

September 18th, 2010, 07:01 PM

Nice pics!

I like seeing the date farms. IMO, Somalia has the potential to be a major date producer.

kush-boy

September 18th, 2010, 07:09 PM

The east coast of Somalia, has the best beaches in the Red Sea and arguably in Somalia(lil competition from the Jubba). Perfect blend of mountains, white-sand beaches and crystal clear warn water.

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_MNrOSeZNN5M/SBItF-9Kq5I/AAAAAAAABmQ/elJosIe5xQ8/s640/Bild%20162.jpg

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_MNrOSeZNN5M/SBIs1-9Kq3I/AAAAAAAABmA/KwvmcnFJLkY/s640/Bild%20160.jpg

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_MNrOSeZNN5M/SAYen42ebEI/AAAAAAAABQs/JwdIeE9EteY/s640/PHOT0006.JPG

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_MNrOSeZNN5M/SAYeu42ebFI/AAAAAAAABQ0/qibBw8QQYNM/s640/PHOT0007.JPG

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3588/3385133428_fd9de345cd_z.jpg?zz=1

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2472/3647114053_8364ccc6fc_z.jpg?zz=1

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3576/3391407925_fec1a03774_z.jpg?zz=1

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3598/3406869494_96b5d2083b_z.jpg?zz=1

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs414.snc4/47753_114020171990081_100001462977416_108084_85124_n.jpg

:banana::banana::banana:

kush-boy

September 18th, 2010, 07:27 PM

Nice pics!

I like seeing the date farms. IMO, Somalia has the potential to be a major date producer.

I know, Northern Somalia has so much unexploited potential. if Properly managed the Frankincense forests, would definitely make us the biggest perfume(cuud/uud) producer in the world.:bash:

Frankincense forest
http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/14329057.jpg

http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/14387422.jpg

ja'far

September 18th, 2010, 07:32 PM

^^
Great photos. Damn, i am homesick now. I never knew the Gulf of Aden looked that pretty.

Well, as the saying goes "you never know what you lost untill you miss it".

Camellete

September 18th, 2010, 10:22 PM

Does anyone know whether the Bajun Islands are considered to be apart of Somalia?
I know its of the Coast of Kismaayo.
And how many Islands are there in total?

Xusein

September 18th, 2010, 10:32 PM

According to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bajuni_Islands), yes it is in Somalia, they are a part of Jubbada Hoose region and there are six main islands.

The people there are Swahili speakers though, so maha? Would be really cool to see pictures of those islands if anyone has any.

Camellete

September 18th, 2010, 11:09 PM

I've actually Just read some book on ''Google Books'' and it states that its infact apart of Somalia. And according to the book/s a few Bajuni people also live in Kismaayo (as that's their original homeland)
Which is pretty cool!!

Bajuun Islands

http://www.imagineafrica.co.uk/images/KEN-Kiwayu-family.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3492/3944402677_187522938d.jpg

http://www.somalianonsolo.it/Immagini/bajuni.JPG

http://www.africaguide.com/accomm/images/uploads/224/stand_001.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/180/429459264_84efbe6350.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/158/429457666_b72755ec29.jpg

Ras Siyan

September 18th, 2010, 11:23 PM

^^^^
I've always wondered what the Baajuun Islands looked like. Thanks sooo much for these photos!!!
And yes, these islands belong to Somalia.

Nice jobs you're doing here guys, keep them coming!!!!

ja'far

September 18th, 2010, 11:44 PM

Does anyone know whether the Bajun Islands are considered to be apart of Somalia?
I know its of the Coast of Kismaayo.
And how many Islands are there in total?

Well done and wlcm back!

It has been a long time since we heard from you.

Camellete

September 18th, 2010, 11:53 PM

Your welcome Ras Siyan.
There's hardly any pictures of these Islands (like the rest of Somalia)

A few more photos of Bajuun

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3432/3944403577_15efa1674d.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3444/3945186970_378896697a.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/167/429457529_fa159157e3.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/146/429459654_0744429964.jpg

Cute Bajuuni girls (weaing what looks like diraac)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3483/3944406689_03bf9c5fe4.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2663/3943370469_3b5d7ac344.jpg

Thanks Ja'far:)

Ras Siyan

September 19th, 2010, 12:26 AM

kush-boy

September 19th, 2010, 01:09 AM

I never thought Caluula was this green! I expected a rather desertic landscape. Qurux!

Keymahan kuwii fooxa miyaa? Ma ka ganacsadaan dadku fooxa keymahaa ka baxa?

Most of Bari highlands are green and cooler than Boosaaso, Berbara and Jabuuti

Maya walaal fooxu wuu kuyaryahay Bari.

kush-boy

September 19th, 2010, 01:13 AM

Last picture of the day, the coolest camel ever

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs336.ash2/61611_447044994640_508754640_4782320_1942296_n.jpg

Ras Siyan

September 19th, 2010, 02:28 AM

Maya walaal fooxu wuu kuyaryahay Bari.

Goboladee weeye hadaba kuwa uu ka baxo fooxu? Sool? Sanaag? Nugaal?

Thanks Camellete for the Baajuun Islands pics, did you come across the Saxardiid Islands (thats the name right?) off the Zeila coast?

Don't get mad, I fantasize sometimes about the Zeila area attached to Djibouti...

Ras Siyan

September 19th, 2010, 02:31 AM

Last picture of the day, the coolest camel ever

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs336.ash2/61611_447044994640_508754640_4782320_1942296_n.jpg

Even the camels can't resist the beauty and serenity of the Somalian coast! This picture could be used by the Somalian Tourism Ministry:)

Constantine MMX

September 19th, 2010, 04:16 PM

What was Shermarke's position towards Ethiopia? I'm guessing it was pretty reasonable.

But I have to say, A.A. Shermarke does not sound Somali at all. :lol:

Somalia and Ethiopia did have a border clash when they were led by emperor Haile Sellasie and president Aden Osman Daar in 64', but during A.A's term things normalized as his prime minister was Mohammed Egal who preferred dialogue with Somalia's neighbours.

Shermarke btw is a bonafide Somali name, it's more properly spelled as 'Sharmarkay' which means 'he who sees no harm'.

I never thought Caluula was this green! I expected a rather desertic landscape. Qurux!

I think there are areas along the historic town of Alula that has desert-like landscape, a bit like the old part of Bandar Qassim/Bosaso:

http://i50.tinypic.com/o88b40.jpg

Constantine MMX

September 19th, 2010, 04:37 PM

To Camelette and Kush-boy those are some fine additions of Caluula and Bajun. Here are some of Mait/Maydh:

http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/14328906.jpg
http://www.salthaug.com/Somalia/Somalia_3.jpg
http://www.salthaug.com/Somalia/Nodhavn_3.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_x_-r_Mdsr-k/SR5zRk3LWtI/AAAAAAAAABk/BhnDRVSQZ08/s400/2930657383_238624a7c5.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_x_-r_Mdsr-k/SR5uBH7bKyI/AAAAAAAAABU/0JjAZ--GBwQ/s400/2931460698_e3581a3c24.jpg

Camellete

September 19th, 2010, 04:53 PM

Thanks Camellete for the Baajuun Islands pics, did you come across the Saxardiid Islands (thats the name right?) off the Zeila coast?

I've heard about that Island (there's only two Islands there right, correct me if I'm wrong).. but I've never seen any photos of it.

Constantine, gr8 pictures of Maydh, the picture below is of Rabshi Island which is just off the coast of Maydh..

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_iktv_pIt_AM/THMHIgXqSdI/AAAAAAAAEtQ/J53LiO9jaak/s640/Rabshi+Few+kilometres+East+of+Mayd,+Sanaag.jpg

Constantine MMX

September 19th, 2010, 06:31 PM

Somalia: Civil War Hides Steady Growth of Internet Services

Balancing Act (London)

March 5, 2007 - Posted to the web March 5, 2007

Russell Southwood
London

Somalia was one of the last African countries to get connected to the Internet after the country established its first ISP in 1999. But today the country has internet connectivity to almost 53% of the whole area of the country and the Internet business is mushrooming in the country and becoming one of the fastest growing services along with telephony.

Based on the 2006 report of Somali Telecommunication Association (STA), a watchdog organisation that oversees the Policy development and regulatory framework of ICT sector in Somalia, by the end of 2005 there were more than 0.5 million users of Internet services in the country with 22 established ISP and 234 cyber cafes with growth of 15.6% per year.

Several types of Internet services are available in the country including dial up services that are mainly provided by the major network operators in the country. The major players include Global Internet Company which is a jointly owned by the three major networks of Hormud Telcom, Telcom Somalia and Nationlink. Global Internet Company is the biggest ISP in the country and the sole provider of dialup services in South- central regions of the country. While in Somaliland and Puntland, Internet services has been bundled within the network products and services whereby each network delivers Internet dialup services into its own subscribers. Major regional service leaders include Telsom, and Ts in Somaliland regions and Golis and STG in the Puntland region.

Dial up internet services in Somalia is the fastest growing internet services in Africa as Somalia enjoys landline growth of more than 12.5% per year compared to Horn and eastern Africa countries where landline is experiencing a serious decline due vandalism and increase cost of copper cables in the international market. This growth is attributed to the unique services policy adopted by the Somali telcom operators that is based on free local calls within each town of in the country. Landline has become the product of choice and most affordable telecommunication service in the local market. By just paying a flat rate of US$ 10 per month for unlimited calls and US0.005 per minute for Internet connections, with one time connection fee of US$50.

The other high-flying Internet service in the country is Wireless Internet for corporate, learning institutions, UN, NGO and diplomatic Missions. This service is provided by both dial up and non-dial up ISPs. Major cities like Mogadishu, Hargeisa, Bosaso, Kismayo and Galkayo, the services has been delivered at the pricing structure ranging from US$ 150- 300 per month for unlimited internet access with bandwidth rate of 64kbs up and down.

For instance, the capital city Mogadishu hosts the biggest wireless internet services and has largest subscriber base in the country and Dalkom (Wanaag HK), webtel, Orbit, and Unitel are the major leaders of service providers. The challenges facing the wireless internet providers include the cost of subscriber terminal equipment and electricity supply as well the cost of bandwidth.

Somafone, one of the GSM services providers, has also introduced a GPRS service for wireless Internet in the market. GPRS service has not yet picked up in the local market but it is available in Mogadishu and its neighbourhood regions of Lower and Middle Shabelle.

ADSL and LRE( long range ethernet) Internet services are also offered in Mogadishu, specially for the business centres and corporate institutions in the city. The services has not been extended to other major cities in the country but expected to be completed in the near future. So far Global internet is the only operator at the moment able to provide ADSL services in Mogadishu.

In the last quarter of 2006, Dalkom Somalia came up with a programme extending ADSL services throughout the country by providing ADSL equipments to all network operators in the country with a revenue sharing business model, after realising a great shift of Internet connectivity and the huge demand for broadband services in the market. Most of the operators are studying this proposal and expected to be endorsed by this year. It hopes this will help the operators to improve internet usage, increase the subscriber base and connectivity of internet in the country. Dalkom Somalia says it has technical and resources capacity to roll out countrywide ADSL services in collaboration with all the networks in the country.

The cost of ADSL services in country, believed to be the cheapest in the sub-region. For instant, the cost of the terminals plus the installation is about US$100 while the rate of services is determined by the number of computers that to be connected. For example ADSL services connected to one computer costs US$30 per month for unlimited Internet access and unlimited downloads.

Internet over the satellite services is also offered in the country especially in the remote areas and the cities that have no either dialup or wireless Internet services. Major clients include UN, NGOs, financial institutions particularly the remittance companies and Internet Cafes. Currently over three hundred satellite terminals, connected to various teleports in Europe and Asia are available throughout the country. This type of services have shown a stable growth of 10-15% per year.

But the more the broadband wireless Internet increases throughout the country, the less there will be a need for satellite Internet. Therefore the market for satellite Internet has gone down in the past three years in the urban areas of Somalia while this type of services picked up in the rural areas and the demand has been steadily growing up. The Educational centres, media companies and financial institutions have been contributing to the growth of the demand of Internet over the satellite services as these institutions are pushing the extension of services into the remote areas of the country, in order to be able to operate in rural areas.

The biggest challenge for Internet services in Somalia is the cost of bandwidth as most of the customers are currently paying between US$ 2500-3000 per Mbs per month. The Major international bandwidth providers include TAIDE, Skyvision, Etisalat, Sinosat, and Newskies , Eutalsat, Panamsat and Intelsat.

Dalkom, an international gateway and Internet backbone operator in Somalia provides various products and solutions for the internet services providers(ISP), corporate institutions , learning centres and cyber Cafees include cheap bandwidth through Its backbone, internet over satellite and Premium routes for the content providers and media operators as well international voice gateway services for global carriers.

Dalkom Somalia considers the internet market one of the fastest growing sectors in the country and it will keep on growing in the next two decades as market is shifting into data and Voip services. Most of the ISP are shifting to development of contents, integrated solution of Voice and data, VOIP, hosting and video streaming as e-commerce and media over internet are the deals of the day. Dalkom's international gateway has a capacity to support the growing internet market demand of country and still trying to source more affordable bandwidth in the international market in order to improve affordability of bandwidth in the local market as bandwidth becomes a precious commodity in the market. Dalkom Somalia has also plans to expand its international gateway services into regional operators by building a sub-station in the regions of Somaliland and Puntland as well the completion of its commercial national backbone in order to further improve international connectivity of the country and minimise the cost of network operations as the current international gateway supports the network operators in South-central Somalia

Allafrica.com (http://allafrica.com/stories/200703050656.html)

some pics:
http://www.dayniile.com/Actobar009/Dahabshiil.jpg
http://gfx.nrk.no/coBNp7j7rcCEANXFygPSYw7qsQLQNz2Fbh3LsPmw33tQ.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/44/139783624_907b501377.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/47/139783627_33558030e1.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/44/139783626_2576425403.jpg
http://galgalanews.com/index/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/horseedmedia.jpg
http://www.dhahar.com/images/sawirada_waaweyn/103_1898.JPG
http://www.waagacusub.com/images/hortel5.jpg
http://www.waagacusub.com/images/hortel7.jpg
http://www.iibka.com/adpics/4c0f3ef6479d4cc3c987ea01b.jpg
http://i51.tinypic.com/2ex11zp.jpg

Constantine MMX

September 19th, 2010, 06:43 PM

I've heard about that Island (there's only two Islands there right, correct me if I'm wrong).. but I've never seen any photos of it.

You guys mean Sacaada diin Islands, this place is very lush and has many medieval ruins:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3547/3320786543_047bf960e3.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2255/2468224512_bb94872271.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2104/2467414749_a7984f34a8.jpg?v=0
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3245/2467414753_8b39a7524f.jpg?v=0
http://www.africanbirdclub.org/countries/Somalia/images/Sacaada-Din-Somalia.jpg

Constantine, gr8 pictures of Maydh, the picture below is of Rabshi Island which is just off the coast of Maydh..

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_iktv_pIt_AM/THMHIgXqSdI/AAAAAAAAEtQ/J53LiO9jaak/s640/Rabshi+Few+kilometres+East+of+Mayd,+Sanaag.jpg

Nice, very mysterious. I just read it's the favorite migrating spot for several different bird families.:cheers:

kush-boy

September 19th, 2010, 11:47 PM

You guys mean Sacaada diin Islands, this place is very lush and has many medieval ruins:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3547/3320786543_047bf960e3.jpg

That snap-shot is missing two more islands, there are 5 Sacaada diin Islands in total, the biggest oneis about 6kmsq and roughly half of it is covered by mangroves forest

http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss279/hotxxxxx/3435382547_8d0ac472f8.jpg

Ras Siyan

September 20th, 2010, 12:03 AM

You guys mean Sacaada diin Islands, this place is very lush and has many medieval ruins:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3547/3320786543_047bf960e3.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2255/2468224512_bb94872271.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2104/2467414749_a7984f34a8.jpg?v=0
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3245/2467414753_8b39a7524f.jpg?v=0
[img]http://www.africanbirdclub.org/countries/Somalia/images/Sacaada-Din

Wow, thanks for the pics. Sacaada Diin, not Saxardiid then.

These islands are great, with all the mangrove, the look like Moucha and Maskali Islands (Djibouti). Its close to Djibouti-City, too bad there are no camps, it could be a great getaway, the way Moucha and Maskali are today

Constantine MMX

September 20th, 2010, 06:08 AM

^^Very interesting sxb, one could attract wealthy characters to these areas the way a Somali entrepreneur from Sheikh succesfully attracted the Kuwaiti Royal family to built a vacational palace in that town.

@Kush-boy thanks for pointing that out, i wasn't aware there were five Islands instead of two.

Some more pics of various parts of the country:

http://www.fotothing.com/photos/92d/92de15e52ce5f11aafa9116cacd3fcac.jpg

http://www.fotothing.com/photos/783/7833002833fbee67a68cb8e864883e88.jpg

http://www.fotothing.com/photos/773/77348b8890502865a01c429e14951dc9.jpg

http://www.fotothing.com/photos/6bf/6bf9486aeb05b5e292e26b84baa7b407.jpg

http://www.fotothing.com/photos/19c/19cd20cbc8b267e5dee47952448b9631.jpg

http://www.fotothing.com/photos/5d4/5d47b0adce2ddd064e9121f98d876d22.jpg

http://www.fotothing.com/photos/bb2/bb2c532d1202c0d6f8a62dae2708857c.jpg

Constantine MMX

September 21st, 2010, 01:10 AM

University of Gedo - renderings
http://i55.tinypic.com/n4dvgy.jpg
http://i54.tinypic.com/2jf0kya.jpg

Unbelievable, and this is Somalia in a Coma. :cheers:

Camellete

September 21st, 2010, 01:40 AM

Brawa/Brava

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3231/2909535182_f0e31e3823.jpg?v=0

http://www.wikiwak.com/image/Barawa.jpg

http://www.dsm-ehemalige.de/Kisimayo/Brava.jpg

http://www.jimalinderphotography.com/somalia%20man%20with%20boat,%20brava.jpg

http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/static.panoramio.com/photos/original/18242541.jpg

http://www.baraawepost.com/normal_baraawe.jpg

Constantine MMX

September 21st, 2010, 01:41 AM

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_MNrOSeZNN5M/SBIsku9Kq1I/AAAAAAAABlw/Fwc-iKHEGME/s640/Bild%20158.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/220/468393117_58d9fd4d38.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/184/468393113_17e39a5782.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/193/468577323_01f2dfc9fe.jpg

Simfan34

September 21st, 2010, 01:44 AM

University of Gedo - renderings
http://i55.tinypic.com/n4dvgy.jpg
http://i54.tinypic.com/2jf0kya.jpg

Unbelievable, and this is Somalia in a Coma. :cheers:

You're kidding me, right? Imagine Somalia if it actually had a government- the Somalis are perhaps the most enterprising people on earth.

Constantine MMX

September 21st, 2010, 01:58 AM

You're kidding me, right? Imagine Somalia if it actually had a government- the Somalis are perhaps the most enterprising people on earth.

Which at times can be rendered moot, as we also boast some of the most retarded people on earth.:lol:

Ras Siyan

September 21st, 2010, 02:32 AM

University of Gedo - renderings
http://i55.tinypic.com/n4dvgy.jpg
http://i54.tinypic.com/2jf0kya.jpg

Unbelievable, and this is Somalia in a Coma. :cheers:

Again, just :eek2::eek2::eek2:

abesha

September 21st, 2010, 03:23 AM

This thread just fascinates and blows me away!

ja'far

September 21st, 2010, 03:47 AM

This thread just fascinates and blows me away!

why?

ja'far

September 21st, 2010, 03:54 AM

Which at times can be rendered moot, as we also boast some of the most retarded people on earth.:lol:

True. I heard about fund raising event in Europe and North America to build Gedo Uiniversity. If it ever materilizes, it would be plus for that region. BTW, the rendering of Gedo Uni looks great.

Once agian job well done bro.

ja'far

September 21st, 2010, 04:33 AM

One thing i like about Marka and Barawe is that they were not affected by the civil war.

abesha

September 21st, 2010, 05:02 AM

why?

Because it shows me a Somalia I couldn't imagine. It's very different than what I expected.

I wish I could visit all these places. The tourism potential is mind-blowing.

Xusein

September 21st, 2010, 06:59 AM

University of Gedo - renderings
http://i55.tinypic.com/n4dvgy.jpg
http://i54.tinypic.com/2jf0kya.jpg

Unbelievable, and this is Somalia in a Coma. :cheers:

:shocked:

Constantine MMX

September 21st, 2010, 10:43 AM

http://www.falaar.com/images/marko.JPG
http://www.fr33agents.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Merca_boats.jpg
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_0t-K3XKhKRM/S3_kLvt5KsI/AAAAAAAAAFU/pSJWBXIZXCo/s640/img683.jpg
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_0t-K3XKhKRM/S3_kQKZNqaI/AAAAAAAAAFY/nhDxQVBf1Gw/s640/img684.jpg
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_0t-K3XKhKRM/S3_kn4v8erI/AAAAAAAAAFw/9Ns8pm2cAFU/s640/img690.jpg
http://www.nw-merka.ch/archiv/children_report05-Dateien/image002.jpg
http://macruuf.jeeran.com/photos/242285_l.jpg
http://macruuf.jeeran.com/photos/242296_l.jpg
http://ic2.pbase.com/o4/26/621726/1/67080818.gCY0c9re.0087.tr.jpg

Constantine MMX

September 21st, 2010, 11:34 AM

http://somalilandpress.com/wp-content/gallery/somaliland-education/sunshine_algebra.jpg
http://i56.tinypic.com/332cpef.jpg
http://somalilandpress.com/wp-content/gallery/somaliland-education/2563729984_c698254a5a.jpg
http://i53.tinypic.com/2dufq7m.jpg
http://www.calayaale.com/Calayaale%20Gabdho%20Ciyaarayo%20Left.jpg

Knaan back to the motherland:
http://www.sdwo.com/Knan22.jpg
http://www.sdwo.com/Knan14.jpg

^^Notice the width of the tree in background, definitely a few milleniums old.:)

Kwazimoto

September 21st, 2010, 11:40 AM

:(http://somalilandpress.com/wp-content/gallery/somaliland-education/sunshine_algebra.jpg

Camellete

September 21st, 2010, 06:56 PM

Because it shows me a Somalia I couldn't imagine. It's very different than what I expected.

I wish I could visit all these places. The tourism potential is mind-blowing.

I think the outside world thinks the whole of Somalia is a worn torn desert.. while the reality is totally different.
Another thing most people don't know is that Somalia is also rich in wildlife (well it was before the civil war) But a good amount of wildlife can still be seen around the country, from Lions to elephants. Somalia is also home to numerous rare species like the somali wildass.

Hargesia Zoo

http://images.world66.com/ha/rg/ei/hargeisa_zoo_galleryfull1

Ayatulahi

September 21st, 2010, 08:43 PM

Because it shows me a Somalia I couldn't imagine. It's very different than what I expected.

I wish I could visit all these places. The tourism potential is mind-blowing.

Abesha:

Abaayo soo diyaar garow, anaa ku kaxaynaaya, oo meel walba kusoo marinayaa.
Waanan hubaa si wacan baad usoo dalxiisaysaa.
Adiguna marka ugu danbaysa ii ogolow inaan hal habeen sariirta kula share-gareeyo!! :naughty::dance2:

Camellete

September 21st, 2010, 09:06 PM

^Lol Abesha isn't Somali

kush-boy

September 21st, 2010, 09:18 PM

Xamar(Hamar) in the 80s

http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss279/hotxxxxx/Bild1.jpg

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_DAo23eK0KUg/SqRvb4606xI/AAAAAAAAB_w/2mT5a_-G6xw/s640/scan0048.jpg

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_RCpxVBoAf9A/SCR9NWlRRYI/AAAAAAAACm8/SWY0ADM5HRs/hotel%20%20curuuba.jpg

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_DAo23eK0KUg/SqRviNZvFCI/AAAAAAAAB_0/xzOUq3vaoIA/s640/scan0049.jpg

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_DAo23eK0KUg/SuZLhRPVGBI/AAAAAAAACSo/wR9zzn9SPoE/s720/scan0019.jpg

Yoniii

September 21st, 2010, 09:22 PM

:lol: The day I see a Somali poster named Abesha is the same day we see world peace. :D

I must agree with Abesha though, this is a positively chocking thread, specially the University.

Simfan34

September 21st, 2010, 09:25 PM

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_RCpxVBoAf9A/SCR9g2lRRmI/AAAAAAAACos/cJQmFRkQvXI/miram.jpg

This isn't Somalia- this the Miramare Palace in Trieste, Italy. Unless it's a replica, which would be :wow:

Simfan34

September 21st, 2010, 09:27 PM

^Lol Abesha isn't Somali

:lol::lol::lol:

Everyone must know Abesha= Xabashi!

Camellete

September 21st, 2010, 09:30 PM

:lol::lol::lol:

Everyone must know Abesha= Xabashi!

Lool I know.
But I know a few Somalis who have 'Xabashi' as a nick name.. Heck there's a Somali sub-clan which is called Xabasheed lol.

kush-boy

September 21st, 2010, 09:38 PM

[/QUOTE] This isn't Somalia- this the Miramare Palace in Trieste, Italy. Unless it's a replica, which would be :wow:[/QUOTE]

You probably right and no it is not a replica. thanks I will take it down

Simfan34

September 21st, 2010, 09:46 PM

Lool I know.
But I know a few Somalis who have 'Xabashi' as a nick name.. Heck there's a Somali sub-clan which is called Xabasheed lol.

Really? Why is that?

Camellete

September 21st, 2010, 09:55 PM

Really? Why is that?

The man I know who's nicknamed Xabashi is 1/2 ethiopian I believe, while another one was raised by his Ethiopian grandmother and her relatives.
And the sub-clan I mentioned are the off spring of a Xabashi woman... Their called 'Habar Xabasheed' - which basically means 'The old Xabashi Woman'.

Ayatulahi

September 21st, 2010, 10:06 PM

http://www.imageurlhost.com/images/x85az2nsjw9z8hiih73.jpg
http://www.imageurlhost.com/images/dw49cibdxvv0pti5y0n9.jpg
http://www.imageurlhost.com/images/7j2tkff52myp6tyhg30y.jpg
http://www.imageurlhost.com/images/9bowwf1funv3lfjddim0.jpg
http://www.imageurlhost.com/images/ah9x1flnsyrufmkb96go.jpg
http://www.imageurlhost.com/images/axo1aj4pdcf9kugm62u.jpg
http://www.imageurlhost.com/images/ox9f0u9yu11qa4w9lw98.jpg
http://www.imageurlhost.com/images/ayu67xfwz4ibfj7f76o.jpg
http://www.imageurlhost.com/images/n1tbhy3abfevo4bn0181.jpg
http://www.imageurlhost.com/images/owispd63l50n2rld8uct.jpg
http://www.imageurlhost.com/images/k2by57iw1nxtwd1g09a.jpg
http://www.imageurlhost.com/images/4kcv373kdwpab9ug4uf9.jpg
http://www.imageurlhost.com/images/p953l9kegzz8vsdqxgqv.jpg
http://www.imageurlhost.com/images/x7knb8jpnov1020480a.jpg
http://www.imageurlhost.com/images/3c1wh7vbzuhf5hw1mc.jpg
http://www.imageurlhost.com/images/ur6pq79n921y04zhckpe.jpg

Simfan34

September 21st, 2010, 10:10 PM

Somali Airlines... the White Star Service!

No idea why I know that! :lol:

Ayatulahi

September 21st, 2010, 10:13 PM

Somali Documentary - 1976

RaQutLLBi-U

Xusein

September 21st, 2010, 10:26 PM

Someone needs to bring Somali Airlines back...I'm glad that there are other airlines (Daallo, Jubba, etc) to fill the void but I don't find those airlines to be reputable internationally. And I hate their old planes from Ruushka...

Simfan34

September 21st, 2010, 10:39 PM

Xusein

September 21st, 2010, 10:41 PM

LOL, that would be insult to injury.

I'd rather have a SOMALI-owned national airline, thank you very much.

Simfan34

September 21st, 2010, 10:44 PM

LOL, that would be insult to injury.

I'd rather have a SOMALI-owned national airline, thank you very much.

I knew that prospect wouldn't excite you?

Well, Ethiopian certainly is reliable.... perhaps joint ownership, like ASKY?

Xusein

September 21st, 2010, 10:46 PM

There are enough Somali businesspeople out there in the world to make it feasible without foreign involvement.

Yoniii

September 21st, 2010, 10:47 PM

I'd wish Ethiopian could fill the gap, perhaps buying the rights to the Somali Airlines name.
When me and my family flew with EA to Addis from Stockholm at least 20% were Somalis. Somali Airlines should be owned by Somalis, anyone else (specially Ethiopians) would never be accepted. That doesn't mean Somalis won't choose Ethiopian if they offer better prices/service.

Xusein

September 21st, 2010, 10:53 PM

When me and my family flew with EA to Addis from Stockholm at least 20% were Somalis. Somali Airlines should be owned by Somalis, anyone else (specially Ethiopians) would never be accepted. That doesn't mean Somalis won't choose Ethiopian if they offer better prices/service.

Because Addis is a relatively good transit-point because it has flights to places like Hargeisa directly. Places like Dubai and Djibouti are also good in that respect as well. When the situation in the area gets better and foreign airlines are not scared to fly to Somalia anymore, I expect a direct flight to Europe (probably London, Paris, or Rome) from Somalia one day.

Yoniii

September 21st, 2010, 11:20 PM

Because Addis is a relatively good transit-point because it has flights to places like Hargeisa directly. Places like Dubai and Djibouti are also good in that respect as well. When the situation in the area gets better and foreign airlines are not scared to fly to Somalia anymore, I expect a direct flight to Europe (probably London, Paris, or Rome) from Somalia one day.
Absolutely, I understand the reason to why they fly via Addis. My point is that some Somalis obviously choose Ethiopian, even though there are cheaper flights from Stockholm to Addis with for example Turkish Airlines. Ethiopian is a good airline and I am sure that they can compete on future Somali markets as well, even though they have a very unpopular owner. :)

kush-boy

September 21st, 2010, 11:32 PM

I love Merka's old Islamic architecture, a part from neglect the war seems to have had caused minimal demage to the city's main structures.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2207/2098352962_fa0b83c98a_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2130/2064783500_e8645bf397_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2153/2098356740_4525ff9218_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2249/2098595888_eb2b9c31c3_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2335/2098590800_8c6a85762a_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2206/2078431862_a491af45e8_z.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2223/2098359674_027e2c9234_z.jpg

Simfan34

September 21st, 2010, 11:37 PM

These modern pictures? I'm so glad some part of Mogadishu has survived the war.

kush-boy

September 21st, 2010, 11:39 PM

Merka's picturesque country side

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2315/2054161232_8ac4b8b2be_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2298/2063946181_2ea384b143_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2090/2063951453_25af127b24_z.jpg

Camellete

September 21st, 2010, 11:42 PM

These modern pictures? I'm so glad some part of Mogadishu has survived the war.

Merka and Mogadishu are 2 different cities.
Merka is south west of Mogadishu.

kush-boy

September 21st, 2010, 11:43 PM

These modern pictures? I'm so glad some part of Mogadishu has survived the war.

These pictures are quit recent, from Merka 70km south of Muqdisho(Xamar).

Simfan34

September 21st, 2010, 11:51 PM

Oh well, it's quite nice to see a intact city regardless.

Camellete

September 22nd, 2010, 12:13 AM

Galgala

http://www.dhahar.com/sawiro/sawir/gl1.jpg

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4099/1170/1600/SOMALIA_017.jpg

Sanaag

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4099/1170/1600/somalia_21.jpg

Kismayo

University

http://www.hiiraan.com/images/2010/apr/jamacada%20kismaayo.jpg

http://beledxawo.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/kismaayots3.jpg?w=400&h=200

http://somaliswiss.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/wobiga-jubba-kopie-2.jpg?w=508&h=350

Samataar

September 22nd, 2010, 12:34 AM

hello to every one I'am new here

first of all i would like to congradulate Xusein for starting this thread it a wonderful way to showcase the wonders of our homeland and to show a side of somalia most of us hardly see.

i'am thoroughly enjoying this thread so keep it up

Samataar

September 22nd, 2010, 12:45 AM

Amud
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/11/Amud%2C_Somalia.jpg

Stone city of Gondershe.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/17/Gondereshe2008.jpg

Samataar

September 22nd, 2010, 12:52 AM

Neolithic cave paintings Laas Gaal

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f1/Laas_Geel.jpg

abesha

September 22nd, 2010, 12:59 AM

The falls in post 159 are the Awash River Falls (Ethiopia).

I love the cave paintings. The colors are so vivid, it's really well preserved.

ja'far

September 22nd, 2010, 01:00 AM

Mr. Samataar, Soo dhowow.

Thanks for the new photos and add more if u come across them.

ja'far

September 22nd, 2010, 01:16 AM

LOL, that would be insult to injury.

I'd rather have a SOMALI-owned national airline, thank you very much.

:lol::lol::lol:

Xusein

September 22nd, 2010, 01:25 AM

The falls in post 159 are the Awash River Falls (Ethiopia).

Yeah...I don't know of any year-round waterfalls in Somalia anyway.

Also, welcome to the forum Samataar! :cheers:

Ras Siyan

September 22nd, 2010, 12:05 PM

I looked for info on Gondershe on the net and this is what I found:

Gondershe is an historical Somali stone city built on an oasis in southern Somalia. The city's ruins consist of typical Somali architecture such as coral stone houses, fortifications, tombs and mosques. It is said to date from the Ajuuraan period, when it became a center of trade that handled smaller vessels sailing from India, Arabia, Persia and the Far East.

Gondershe was also a popular tourist attraction during the 1970s and 1980s in Somalia. In addition, the film La Conchiglia (1992) by the award-winning Somali filmmaker Abdulkadir Ahmed Said was shot here, and features the town's local residents.

source: wikepedia

Guys any news on that mentioned film?

P.S: Great contribution guys, keep them coming!

Ras Siyan

September 22nd, 2010, 12:12 PM

Somali-Arabo tabet (Somali written using Arabic alphabet)

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/7000/somalistone.jpg (http://img190.imageshack.us/i/somalistone.jpg/)

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Muqadishan currency during the Ajuuraan Empire

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/5974/horizontalmogadishancoi.jpg (http://img4.imageshack.us/i/horizontalmogadishancoi.jpg/)

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Medieval Muqadishan ship

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/5730/mogadishanship.jpg (http://img94.imageshack.us/i/mogadishanship.jpg/)

Jubba River

http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/6304/jubariverdownstreamjama.jpg (http://img826.imageshack.us/i/jubariverdownstreamjama.jpg/)

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Ayatulahi

September 22nd, 2010, 12:16 PM

Electronic passport

http://www.imageurlhost.com/images/wwupx3firj1vz2pj9ny.jpg
http://www.imageurlhost.com/images/6yswsa3r2crinmvb2bxv.jpg

Simfan34

September 22nd, 2010, 12:36 PM

Those are more advanced than Ethiopia's passports!

Waranle

September 22nd, 2010, 05:04 PM

Camellete

September 22nd, 2010, 07:04 PM

The falls in post 159 are the Awash River Falls (Ethiopia).

I love the cave paintings. The colors are so vivid, it's really well preserved.

Thanks for clearing that up for me.. I got it from someone's blog, the title said it was around the regions of Somalia and Ogaden.. but they didn't label the pictures.
Took it down!

kush-boy

September 22nd, 2010, 09:41 PM

Buurhakaba, Bay, rural south

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs657.snc4/61702_116004008458364_100001462977416_118722_5935237_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs677.snc4/61702_116004005125031_100001462977416_118721_3250865_n.jpg

http://img104.exs.cx/img104/3792/buur13.jpg

http://img103.exs.cx/img103/8049/buur14.jpg

Constantine MMX

September 22nd, 2010, 10:06 PM

Some houses and villas built by Daryeel Construction, very interesting designs, some are OTT, while others like the bottom right appeal to me:)

http://daryeel.com/BF01.jpghttp://daryeel.com/BF02.jpg
http://daryeel.com/BF09.jpghttp://daryeel.com/DSC000180.jpg
http://daryeel.com/BF012.jpghttp://daryeel.com/B200880.jpg
http://daryeel.com/B200830.jpghttp://daryeel.com/DSC000470.jpg
http://daryeel.com/DSC000200.jpghttp://daryeel.com/DSC000210.jpg
http://daryeel.com/B2008190.jpghttp://daryeel.com/B2008210.jpg
http://daryeel.com/F200830.jpghttp://daryeel.com/F200820.jpg
http://daryeel.com/DSC000380.jpghttp://daryeel.com/DSC000390.jpg
http://daryeel.com/DSC000820.jpghttp://daryeel.com/DSC000510.jpg

Simfan34

September 22nd, 2010, 11:39 PM

http://daryeel.com/DSC000470.jpg
Nice and simple, this one.

Constantine MMX

September 23rd, 2010, 03:06 AM

Some ongoing projects:

Tawakal Bank:
http://www.hadhwanaagmedia.info/attached/u_11479d_2010-4-12-0-30-39f_image001.jpg

Hargeisa Airport:
http://somalilandinfo.com/files/images/hargeisa%20airport.jpg

Abaarso Tech
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/images/2010/05/20100505131744abaarso1.jpg

^progress:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/images/2010/05/20100505131855abaarso3.jpg

ja'far

September 23rd, 2010, 04:26 AM

^^
Thanks for the new info.

War ma reer Mudug baad tahay, mise reer Waqoyi.

Constantine MMX

September 23rd, 2010, 05:04 AM

^^Sxb, reer Somaali baan ahay, wax kale aniga ma'aqaan :nocrook:

Adiga :ancient: baad tahay abowe, na la soo gal 21st centuryka :happy:

ja'far

September 23rd, 2010, 05:10 AM

^^Sxb, reer Somaali baan ahay, wax kale aniga ma'aqaan :nocrook:

Adiga :ancient: baad tahay abowe, na la soo gal 21st centuryka :happy:

:lol::lol:

Fair enough.

Sxb in la is barto ma xumo.

Xusein

September 23rd, 2010, 05:58 AM

^^Sxb, reer Somaali baan ahay, wax kale aniga ma'aqaan :nocrook:

Adiga :ancient: baad tahay abowe, na la soo gal 21st centuryka :happy:
Haha, perfect answer there! kkkkkkk

Ras Siyan

September 23rd, 2010, 06:44 AM

^^The Tawakal Bank building is gonna be in Hargeysa too?

P.S: Somalians seem to love the name Tawakal, so many companies, xawaalado, shops carry that name in Somalia.

Xusein

September 23rd, 2010, 07:37 AM

Yeah, very interesting...I never noticed that before actually. Laakiin, waa magac fiican, ruunta?

I assume that the project is in Hargeysa but maybe Constantine knows where it is if isn't.

Xusein

September 23rd, 2010, 07:47 AM

I forgot about this and wanted to comment...:D

http://daryeel.com/F200830.jpg

THIS is the kind of house that I want to build in my ancestral hometown of Burco...Islamic styling with a few mango trees in the courtyard, and a decent home for my housekeepers. Satellite TV and Internet. And a Land Cruiser. Then I will be NINKA WEYNE. :cool: I heard that Somali cities are getting expensive though...I saw that a few of the biggest villas in Bossaso cost more than USD$70-100.000, and that's without mortgage financing. I expect prices to skyrocket once things get better!

Constantine MMX

September 23rd, 2010, 09:21 AM

Tawakal Bank is being constructed in Bosaso, brothers:)

I forgot about this and wanted to comment...:D

THIS is the kind of house that I want to build in my ancestral hometown of Burco...Islamic styling with a few mango trees in the courtyard, and a decent home for my housekeepers. Satellite TV and Internet. And a Land Cruiser. Then I will be NINKA WEYNE. :cool: I heard that Somali cities are getting expensive though...I saw that a few of the biggest villas in Bossaso cost more than USD$70-100.000, and that's without mortgage financing. I expect prices to skyrocket once things get better!

Same dream bro, but in our ancient metropolis, Mogadishu, the White Pearl of the Indian Ocean(-wiki):cheers:

Constantine MMX

September 23rd, 2010, 09:48 AM

Himilo Village, Hargeisa

http://halganews.com/images/stories/himilo/Himilo-Shoping.jpg
http://himilovillage.7p.com/cgi-bin/image/templates/Himilomap.JPG
http://halganews.com/images/stories/himilo/Site%20and%20Mappp%20Edited.jpg
http://i52.tinypic.com/o8cpyx.jpg

It's being built somewhere in the vicinity of this part of Hargeisa, passed the hill, right next to the Naaso Hablood mountains:

http://jaanhost.com/out.php/i16009_mistoverhargeisa.jpg

Yoniii

September 23rd, 2010, 11:02 AM

Some ongoing projects:

Tawakal Bank:
http://www.hadhwanaagmedia.info/attached/u_11479d_2010-4-12-0-30-39f_image001.jpg

Hargeisa Airport:
http://somalilandinfo.com/files/images/hargeisa%20airport.jpg

Really nice!

Do you have more info on the airport? When will construction start? Will they be able to handle all kind of Jets?

Constantine MMX

September 23rd, 2010, 11:56 AM

Sheikh Sufi Mausoleum
http://i56.tinypic.com/2mquo0h.jpg

Zeila
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2a/Zeila,_Somalia.jpg

Qandala Castle Town
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/58/QandalaCastleTown.jpg

Kismayo Mosque
http://i55.tinypic.com/2cnulub.jpg

Sultan of Hobyo
http://i54.tinypic.com/id8660.jpg

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41zCEGjTVHL._SS500_.jpg

http://i54.tinypic.com/2wfoiyt.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c7/Somali_warriors_board_British_naval_batilla.jpg

Taleex
http://www.allgedo.com/Galged/taleex.jpg

Fakr Ud Din Mosque

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/98/Fakr_Ud_Din_Mosque.jpg[

Mogadishu
http://i54.tinypic.com/25qycxs.jpg

Constantine MMX

September 23rd, 2010, 11:59 AM

Really nice!

Do you have more info on the airport? When will construction start? Will they be able to handle all kind of Jets?

There is a project thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1073087) discussing the construction of the airport and contains some interesting info, have a look:)

Ayatulahi

September 23rd, 2010, 12:08 PM

Dahabshiil Bank - Hargeisa (under construction)

http://www.imageurlhost.com/images/js9dkimm31z7eufsteo.jpg
http://www.imageurlhost.com/images/k1kxdzhcv5lxd45znn.jpg

Ayatulahi

September 23rd, 2010, 12:23 PM

Telesom tower - Hargeisa

http://www.imageurlhost.com/images/bh29005lppef7lxyn0an.jpg

Constantine MMX

September 23rd, 2010, 12:35 PM

Hey bro you got a link for that project?(Telesom Tower, Hargeisa)

Ras Siyan

September 23rd, 2010, 03:05 PM

Are you kidding me? That is a modern skyscraper! Go Somalia!

Ras Siyan

September 23rd, 2010, 03:06 PM

Himilo Village, Hargeisa

http://halganews.com/images/stories/himilo/Himilo-Shoping.jpg
http://himilovillage.7p.com/cgi-bin/image/templates/Himilomap.JPG
http://halganews.com/images/stories/himilo/Site%20and%20Mappp%20Edited.jpg
http://i52.tinypic.com/o8cpyx.jpg

It's being built somewhere in the vicinity of this part of Hargeisa, passed the hill, right next to the Naaso Hablood mountains:

Wow, just wow! All of that without a centralized government!

Camellete

September 23rd, 2010, 03:12 PM

A house in one of Mugadishu's safest suburbs
http://www.iibka.com/adpics/4bb719930a2567052b9ebeef3.jpg

Mohamoud Ali Shire, a prominent Somali anti-imperialist leader and the 20th Sultan of the Warsangali Sultanate.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/77/Sultan_Mohamoud_Ali_Shire_2.jpg

Borama
http://harowo.com/uploads/Image/Boarama/Seeraha%20Boorama.JPG

http://harowo.com/uploads/Image/Boarama/Xaafad%20Boorama%201.JPG

House in Hargeisa
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_qqz1p9_Lp9k/RxdAKsw6b0I/AAAAAAAAArE/v0SlVetg7vM/s400/Office+Hargeisa.jpg

Nugaal (I think)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8b/Horses3.jpg

Bosaaso
http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/static.panoramio.com/photos/original/9502214.jpg

Constantine MMX

September 23rd, 2010, 03:39 PM

Thanks Camelette!

ja'far

September 23rd, 2010, 10:52 PM

Himilo project looks well planed one.

Simfan34

September 23rd, 2010, 10:56 PM

Telesom tower - Hargeisa

Now I'm skeptical of all these projects... this is the HSBC Tower in Hong Kong! :lol:

The Nomadic Warrior

September 23rd, 2010, 11:02 PM

Himilo Village, Hargeisa

http://halganews.com/images/stories/himilo/Himilo-Shoping.jpg
http://himilovillage.7p.com/cgi-bin/image/templates/Himilomap.JPG

They said they were going to built this in 2004? What happened?

Constantine MMX

September 23rd, 2010, 11:34 PM

^^They are probably already finished or close to finishing, they just haven't updated us with recent images, good pictures related to Somalia are hard to come by it seems.

Now I'm skeptical of all these projects... this is the HSBC Tower in Hong Kong! :lol:

That clearly was fake by Ayatulahi, since he disappeared when asked for a link, i'm not sure why he is trolling an excellent topic.:ohno: I'm suprised however that you would doubt the integrity of the projects i personally have posted, since they are easily trace-able and have been accompanied with 'progress' images.

Simfan34

September 23rd, 2010, 11:38 PM

Well not all, but I'm going to be skeptical when he posts a project.

http://www.daryeel.com/commercial022.jpg
Here is the real Telesom Tower.

The Nomadic Warrior

September 23rd, 2010, 11:40 PM

^^They are probably already finished or close to finishing, they just haven't updated us with recent images, good pictures related to Somalia are hard to come by it seems.

No abti, I don’t even think they built it at all. We would have known if it was finished, since it would be a major construction.

Constantine MMX

September 24th, 2010, 12:12 AM

Don't underestimate them sxb, a similar construction project called White Sand Village is also close to completion, or already completed, yet their website has gone down and now we have to rely on flickr to provide us with recent pics:

A few years back
http://www.gargaar.com/images/star1.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/2r23z8o.jpg

Recent
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3180/2563728062_a5f56ce05c_o.jpg

Yet nothing was updated on their website, infact it disappeared, and had that good person not uploaded that recent image to flickr we probably would be questioning the integrity of the W.S.V project aswell.

Xusein

September 24th, 2010, 12:22 AM

^^ Where is that?

Constantine MMX

September 24th, 2010, 12:24 AM

Hargeisa.

Xusein

September 24th, 2010, 02:06 AM

Thx, Sxb.

Pics of the Las Qoray Tuna processing plant a bit further east. Got them here (http://www.laasqoray.net/view_article.php?articleid=4848).

http://www.laasqoray.net/images/sawirada_waaweyn/sawiro%20012_3.jpg

http://www.laasqoray.net/images/sawirada_waaweyn/SDC10589.JPG

http://www.laasqoray.net/images/sawirada_waaweyn/SDC10596.JPG

http://www.laasqoray.net/images/sawirada_waaweyn/SDC10574.JPG

http://www.laasqoray.net/images/sawirada_waaweyn/SDC10567.JPG

http://www.laasqoray.net/images/sawirada_waaweyn/SDC10551.JPG

http://www.laasqoray.net/images/sawirada_waaweyn/SDC10565.JPG

More pics are in the link...

ja'far

September 24th, 2010, 02:20 AM

^^
Thanks Sxb.

abesha

September 24th, 2010, 02:41 AM

Xusein

September 24th, 2010, 03:01 AM

I presume that the majority of their revenue comes from domestic markets.

Tuna is the cheapest fish you can get there, even in interior regions. I wish that Somalis could embrace fish more often, because the fishing industry could have massive potential...and we wouldn't need to complain about illegal foreign fishers if we had governments more proactive in this industry.

Constantine MMX

September 24th, 2010, 07:39 AM

SOMGAS

http://www.dayniile.com/Janaayo%20010/So1.jpg
http://www.dayniile.com/Janaayo%20010/so2.jpg
http://www.dayniile.com/Janaayo%20010/so3.jpg
http://www.dayniile.com/Janaayo%20010/so4.jpg

Link (http://www.dayniile.com/Janaayo%20010/20janaayo5.htm)

Yoniii

September 24th, 2010, 10:26 AM

Love seeing these developments. Constantine MMX you brought this thread to life, please continue! :)

Eda95

September 24th, 2010, 01:00 PM

Interesting photos :)

http://s02.flagcounter.com/count/3Djs/bg=782D7D/txt=F1B8FF/border=CC62CC/columns=1/maxflags=1/viewers=0/labels=0/pageviews=0/ (http://s02.flagcounter.com/more/3Djs) http://2.s03.flagcounter.com/count/0NBu/bg=FFFFFF/txt=FFFFFF/border=FFFFFF/columns=1/maxflags=1/viewers=3/labels=1/ (http://s03.flagcounter.com/more/0NBu) http://2.s02.flagcounter.com/count/3Djs/bg=782D7D/txt=F1B8FF/border=CC62CC/columns=1/maxflags=1/viewers=3/labels=0/pageviews=0/ (http://s02.flagcounter.com/more/3Djs)

Camellete

September 24th, 2010, 02:40 PM

Indhadeero soap factory - Burco

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2079/2346085725_51f339bb48_m.jpg

http://www.indhadeero.com/factory.html

Ras Siyan

September 24th, 2010, 02:48 PM

That tuna processing plant looks very modern. Where do they export it to?
Tuna is so expensive in Ethiopia, it's imported from Europe and the Middle East, they'd make a killing if they exported it there.

They export it to Djibouti too, I was eating that Laas Qoray Tuna when I was there.

Great contribution guys, go on...

Ras Siyan

September 24th, 2010, 02:51 PM

Telesom tower - Hargeisa

http://www.imageurlhost.com/images/bh29005lppef7lxyn0an.jpg

Come on Ayatulahi, there are other ways you can promote Hargeysa. Don't harm the credibility of this thread.

Ayatulahi

September 25th, 2010, 06:20 PM

^^^^

All-right sir :dj:

Xusein

September 25th, 2010, 08:44 PM

Pics of Garowe.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs205.ash2/46849_154454077900725_100000084000540_470022_1473677_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs205.ash2/46849_154454077900725_100000084000540_470022_1473677_n.jpg

http://www.raxanreeb.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/SHAR.jpg
http://www.raxanreeb.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/SHAR.jpg

http://www.raxanreeb.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/ANAAL.jpg
http://www.raxanreeb.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/ANAAL.jpg

http://www.somaliaonline.com/un-building.jpg
http://www.somaliaonline.com/un-building.jpg

Xusein

September 25th, 2010, 08:46 PM

http://www.somaliaonline.com/garaw.jpg
http://www.somaliaonline.com/garaw.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs361.snc4/44376_153038691375597_100000084000540_460536_1467001_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs361.snc4/44376_153038691375597_100000084000540_460536_1467001_n.jpg

http://www.somaliaonline.com/buurahagaroowe.jpg
http://www.somaliaonline.com/buurahagaroowe.jpg

http://www.somaliaonline.com/garoweintersection.jpg
http://www.somaliaonline.com/garoweintersection.jpg

http://www.somaliaonline.com/garowehotel.jpg
http://www.somaliaonline.com/garowehotel.jpg

kush-boy

September 26th, 2010, 01:41 AM

Scientist unearths 5,000-year-old rock art, including drawing of a mounted hunter, in Somaliland

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Users/Help/screenshots/2010/9/17/1284736902731/dr-sada-mire-rock-art-som-006.jpg

A local team headed by Dr Sada Mire, of the Institute of Archaeology at University College London (UCL), made the finds, which include a man on horseback, painted around 4,000 years ago – one of the earliest known depictions of a mounted hunter.

Leaping antelopes, prancing giraffes and snakes poised to strike are among animals and reptiles depicted with astonishing clarity.

Such is the quality of the paintings that at least 10 sites, scattered across semi-desert terrain, are likely to be given World Heritage status.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/sep/17/cave-paintings-found-in-somaliland

It is good to see a Somali archaeologist finally doing same well needed excavations^^

Constantine MMX

September 26th, 2010, 08:32 AM

Hargeisa Bridge
http://oi51.tinypic.com/23ivzme.jpg

http://oi51.tinypic.com/2h5iesx.jpg

Progress
http://www.oodweynenews.com/uploads/images/SAM_1784.JPG
http://www.oodweynenews.com/uploads/images/SAM_1785.JPG
http://www.oodweynenews.com/uploads/images/SAM_1788.JPG

Constantine MMX

September 26th, 2010, 09:05 AM

http://www.berberanews.com/images/news/Markab%20xoolo.jpg

http://www.raxanreeb.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/xoolo-berbera.jpg

http://horseedmedia.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Gudaha-Maxjarka-1..JPG

http://www.togaherer.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/maxjar.jpg

http://www.bar-kulan.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/xoolaha-oo-hortaagan-dekedda-Boosaaso..jpg

Constantine MMX

September 26th, 2010, 09:51 AM

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c5/Somali_man_Myrrh_tree.jpg
The African Frankincense: The Beloved Perfume of the Ancestral Guides of Punt – By Jide Uwechia

The Catholic church is one of the biggest buyers and users of incense in today’s world. Muslim Somalia, is the Roman Catholic’s Church biggest supplier. The Vatican mostly buys Somalian frankincense, the fabled perfume of the Gods of Punt, to burn for their own god Jesus the son of Mary - Read on (http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/african-frankincense-the-beloved-perfume-of-the-ancestral-guides-of-punt-by-jide-uwechia/)

http://www.churchsupplywarehouse.com/images/products/Enlarge/T14.jpg

Ras Siyan

September 26th, 2010, 05:12 PM

The Nomadic Warrior

September 27th, 2010, 12:29 AM

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c5/Somali_man_Myrrh_tree.jpg

http://www.churchsupplywarehouse.com/images/products/Enlarge/T14.jpg

Now that is very interesting. What region does it grow and who exports it.

The Nomadic Warrior

September 27th, 2010, 12:31 AM

Constantine MMX

September 27th, 2010, 01:54 PM

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2209/2322884255_2c31569be3.jpg
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http://ceelwaaqnews.com/spaw/body/large-images/Carwada%20Alxamdu%20Lillaahi%2014.jpg
http://sbclive.net/images/gate8.jpg
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http://farm1.static.flickr.com/29/61279252_4c16c5d8ba.jpg

Constantine MMX

September 27th, 2010, 02:05 PM

Now that is very interesting. What region does it grow and who exports it.

Kush-boy earlier made a related comment:

I know, Northern Somalia has so much unexploited potential. if Properly managed the Frankincense forests, would definitely make us the biggest perfume(cuud/uud) producer in the world.:bash:

Frankincense forest
http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/14329057.jpg

http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/14387422.jpg

Somalia is already the world's biggest producer of Frankincense and Myrrh, Yemen and Oman no longer export it significantly, making Ethiopia the only alternative producer.

The Vatican, China and the U.S are the main importers of Somali Frankincense.

Constantine MMX

September 27th, 2010, 02:20 PM

Garowe is much better than I expected! At first I didn't understand why they made Garowe Puntland's capital and not Bosaso. Glad to see that that decision developed very much Garowe.

Off-topic: the civil war brought the emergence of regional hubs within the country, cities such as Hargeysa, Bosaso, Burco, Garowe etc... Before the civil war, Somalia was a centralized state, it won't be so anymore.

The centralized system ment that the government controlled everything, from education to enterprise, and billions of dollars were spend on the metropolis Mogadishu, basically putting all of our eggs in one basket, and boy did that basket burn! During this period of decentralization, a whole new generation of Somali entrepreneurs have come to the forefront, from the small shop owners to the big companies like Dahabshiil(Africa's answer to Western Union), they have managed to flourish, and not just in Somalia but in neighbouring countries aswell, giving us a healthy growing private sector and several centers of commerce. I think Somalia will come out of the conflict as a more equal and robust country. :)

Xusein

September 28th, 2010, 01:17 AM

Pretty much, people are investing in their own home regions now.

It makes it more obvious that the politics should address this reality. Federalism/devolution is the only real option for Somalis.

Simfan34

September 28th, 2010, 01:37 AM

Either that or Southern Somalia is just too unstable to attract the same level of investment as Puntland, much less Somaliland. But I'm no expert.

Xusein

September 28th, 2010, 01:46 AM

^^ Most of the people who are investing in Somaliland and Puntland are originally from there...they are helping their home. Same thing is happening in Mogadishu and some other Southern cities but it's at a less extent because of the ongoing instability.

musa90

September 28th, 2010, 06:32 AM

Cool thread guys! I enjoyed it very much, keep up the good work :applause:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3251/2689452288_f06be4085b_o.jpg
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http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3269/2689437266_b07c68dbed_o.jpg

Constantine MMX

September 28th, 2010, 11:52 AM

Hiiraan University - Main Campus render
http://oi54.tinypic.com/2ltiz68.jpg

Construction nearby at the Madrassah(Duqsii) part of Hiiraan University:
http://www.hiiraan.com/images/july2008/HU/HU1.jpg
http://somaliswiss.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/muuqaalka_guud-ee-jaamacadda.jpg?w=540&h=405

Constantine MMX

September 28th, 2010, 12:01 PM

Lucky Star construction projects:

http://oi53.tinypic.com/v7xq10.jpg
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/8214/sample204vi7.jpg
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/4911/sample201df8.jpg
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/7530/uni1yl2.jpg
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/9404/uni2us0.jpg

Simfan34

September 28th, 2010, 01:35 PM

Eyl looks less serene and more like a backwater than anything. Which is odd, beacuse a BBC article portrayed it as being flush with Piracy money.

Constantine MMX

September 28th, 2010, 02:03 PM

It's an old town with some interesting historic Castles whose port has been hi-jacked by criminal elements and that's it, the rest is just typical BBC - exaggerated nonsense. The whole Piracy-monotary impact is being inflated ridiculously, one of the many Somali telecommunication companies like Hormuud Inc alone makes more profit anually than all of the Pirates combined, though the latter group is partying like its 1999.

musa90

September 28th, 2010, 02:46 PM

Eyl looks less serene and more like a backwater than anything. Which is odd, beacuse a BBC article portrayed it as being flush with Piracy money.

It is a little town with no more than 1,000 people. The pirates don't care about the development of that place, it's only used because it so far away from all the authorities. The Puntland government has no control over that town despite being part of the state. The pirates mostly invest their money in the larger cities of that region namely Bosaso with 250,000 inhabitants.

When I was there I counted at least 30 large vessels anchored along the coastline. :ohno:

Constantine MMX

September 28th, 2010, 03:49 PM

http://airlinersgallery.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/jubba-airways-737-200-5y-bxg-tko-dxb-pdnlr.jpg
http://www.dayniile.com/Agoosto%20009/juba2.jpg
http://www.dayniile.com/Agoosto%20009/juba1.jpg
http://www.somalisan.com/Images/lulyo/Jubba%20(2).JPG
http://www.dayniile.com/imagesj/Juba%2011.08.2009%20(3).jpg
http://www.somalisan.com/Images/lulyo/Jubba.JPG
http://www.dayniile.com/imagesj/daalo%202010.jpg
http://www.panoramio.com/photos/original/2316175.jpg

Waranle

September 28th, 2010, 03:59 PM

Constantine MMX

September 28th, 2010, 04:04 PM

Bro use the ''^^'' option instead of quoting all of the images.

Mahadsanid, insha-allah i will!

Ayatulahi

September 28th, 2010, 04:13 PM

Mogadishu 2010

http://www.imageurlhost.com/images/qyhmvzm341ejle7p9eg1.jpg

Burco 2006

http://www.imageurlhost.com/images/uiwwephaobp0y431cqp.jpg

Ras Siyan

September 28th, 2010, 04:37 PM

Guys, isn't DAALLO Airlines partly Djiboutian owned?

Thanks for the pics, keep it coming...

Xusein

September 28th, 2010, 05:32 PM

Yeah it is Djiboutian, but Daallo is one of the biggest airline providers in Somalia too. :)

ja'far

September 28th, 2010, 06:22 PM

^^
According to Daallo airlines website, the company started its business in
1991. The owners are from Northern Somalia (Somaliland), however the company is registered at Djibouti.

Few years ago a division of Dubai investment group bought a majority ownership of Daallo.

ja'far

September 28th, 2010, 06:25 PM

Yeah it is Djiboutian, but Daallo is one of the biggest airline providers in Somalia too. :)

How about Dahabshiil Air? I mean, these guys are loaded with cash, why not diversify?

abesha

September 28th, 2010, 08:43 PM

I had no idea there were Somali airlines still flying. It looks really good too.

ja'far

September 29th, 2010, 01:13 AM

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ja'far

September 29th, 2010, 01:36 AM

I had no idea there were Somali airlines still flying. It looks really good too.

It's not Somali Airline, but those airlines are own by Somali businessmen and women.

Somali Airlines is long gone and we missed her indeed.

abesha

September 29th, 2010, 02:22 AM

^^ No that's what I meant, that's why I didn't capitalize Airlines.

I guess my impression of anarchy was that there was no large organization like an airline company.

Does it operate just towards Somaliland or other parts of the country as well?

Xusein

September 29th, 2010, 02:59 AM

You don't need a government to have all these things...and yes, they fly to Mogadishu.

Xusein

September 29th, 2010, 03:11 AM

How about Dahabshiil Air? I mean, these guys are loaded with cash, why not deversify?

Waa khatar, look at all the problems that Daallo has had with the EU...

I'd rather have Dahabshiil turn into a real bank and diversify from remittances. Their advance into debit cards in Somaliland is a good start, and maybe in the future they can start issuing credit to help finance businesses grow. All of this stuff you are seeing going on is because of cold hard cash!