Toowoomba projects

[JayT]

Somewhere to put all those little Toowoomba Projects.


http://www.hallmarkproperty.com.au/grosvenor/index.html
Grosvenor Apartments - starting at $650,000 - rather expensive for a big country town!!
http://www.hallmarkproperty.com.au/grosvenor/images/building_large2.jpg

Toowoomba Aerial showing location of the Grosvenor.
http://www.hallmarkproperty.com.au/grosvenor/images/aerial.jpg

jt

[GMAC]

You would think that that is expensive for a big country town but that older end of Toowoomba is very expensive and if this has views off the range then alot of people are going to think that it is worth every single penny. I like the style of the building, it will fit in very nicely in Toowoomba.

[Danubis]

does anyone know where we can get a map of hieght limits for toowoomba? ive been searching for months and cant find anything, i even tryed writing email to council but with no reply :-(
I'm Particularly interested in height limits for the CBD... cause i remember vaguely that the council reduced limits when heritage building society headquarters and condamine centre were built... hopefully fake memory :-P

[Joe]

Danubis I have lived in toowoomba for 11 years and i have heard of no such height limits. I will try and get my hands on a height limits map. The council are pretty lax. I went in years ago and asked for details on the condamine centre and heritage plaza and they did not know what i was talking about. A year later i met a good mate that worked on the 4th floor of the council offices, where the information is and he got me all the heights and details.

There is another building in Ruthven Street that has been approved, a 7 storey office at 32 meters. I will try and get some pics

[Blend]

I have thought that when Toowoomba gets skyscrapers, it would look amazing from the bottom of the range, to look up and see skyscrapers there.

[Joe]

Yeah would look great. The skyscrapers would have to be pretty large thou. The city is about 4 km from the edge of the range and is in a hollow. The only chance is skyscrapers like cottesloe crest on the range, the grosvenor is hopefully the start of things to come.

[Danubis]

was looking on skyscraperpage.com at the diagrams page for toowoomba, and thought the diagrams for the pictures look a bit misleading. although i dont question the height of cotesloe crest, in real life, it dosnt to be in that proportion when compared to heritage building

[Joe]

Yeah the picture on skyscraperspage.com is a bit misleading. That picture was draw years ago and was a bit dodgy, i will have to update the picture. A couple of years ago there was a building proposed, think it was called sunset plaza, it was to be 85 meters, but i think that the conservative nature of toowoomba snuffed this one out. Rang my mate the other day and he said that there was a 50 meter height limit when heritage and condamine were built, this was reduced to 35 meters in 1990. But as far as he nows there is no height limits on the range, its just up to the public and developers.

I think that they have lifted the height limit for the city. All the suburbs have a height limit of 25 meters now and uni has a 35 meter height limit to roof. There are numerous buildings at uni that are 5 stories and new engineering building is around 30 meters. The old engineering building is 25m to roof and 70m to the top of the spire/ant.

[Danubis]

Just a pic of cotesloe crest on the range...

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid128/p11962acf0bc6f443c95a167eedce5947/f7de2bbc.jpg

as you can see its official height is a little deceptive because its situated on a slope...

apparently it cost 6.7 mil to construct.

[Joe]

Yeah the height is quite deceptive. I only write what i have been told. My mate in the council gave me all the figures and i just have used them. I have changed the building on skyscraperpage.com. Yeah never could work out why you would by the bottom floors as on the city side there is huge dirt ridge about 8m in height and brisbane side there is gym and other facilities. 6.7 million is the figure i have. Took a lot of careful placement i think and land levels made.

[Danubis]

can anyone hava guess at how high the empire theatre is? not that tall but very noticable in toowoomba's little skyline...

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid131/pad0fb5c2a4cf1d05a37042adbd93f719/f7a8d782.jpg

[Danubis]

Just something i made up because I was up at 5 in the morning and very bored!!! lol

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid131/p140e99ff8e8df5f009d2a7a4370c0850/f7a8a099.jpg

Long Pano ->

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid131/p39a82e434a7426cf95da60b6a387f391/f7a8a096.jpg

Post any pics of Toowoomba's skyline too please :-) i'm yet to come across any pics that acurately show toowoomba's unique cbd

[JayT]

I wish I could get a view from Queens Park - it reminds me of a smallish Adelaide.

jt

[Joe]

Good effort thou, gives an idea of how toowoomba's skyline is not reaching for the stars just yet.

[Joe]

http://www.users.tpg.com.au/pleasure/to1.PNG

[Danubis]

ooo thats much nicer then mine!! :) do you think the 'spire' on the uni block is counted as a structural feature? hence tallest building in toowoomba?

[Blend]

can someone list the buildings and heights for toowoomba?
i looked on Skyscrapers.com but i found only 2

[Joe]

Danubis not trying to outdo u :) mate, just i have a few toowoomba pana's already done, had them on my hard drive, just had to find them. I will post a few more.

[Joe]

yeah not sure if the spire on the uni block is included but if it is, it is the tallest in toowoomba.

[Danubis]

i heard from my old 'rumour sources' back in woombie that because heritage has expanded so rapidly in qld over the past few years, that they're considering building another building for office space between the bus exchange thingy and the existing terminal... i imagine that they would connect it to the excisting building somehow... from memory, heritage plaza thingy is there at the moment (which is part of the heritage building structure anyway)

[Joe]

bit of a tricky one to understand Danubis. The Heritage plaza extends from ruthven street ... down the mall about 80m to the city centre bus exchange . It would be unlikely that they would expand. Until recently there have been 2 shops empty. Not sure maybe office demand has increased? The condimine centre is not full either, floors 1, 5 and 8 are up for rent. The other premium office space is the AMP building in ruthven street and it has 2 floors up for rent. And they are building another office building.?

[Danubis]

yeah, but i presume heritage would like to keep all its business arms together in the one location

[Joe]

TOOWOOMBA

1. Cottesloe Crest - 69m (roof)
2. Condamine Centre - 46m (roof)
3. Heritage Plaza - 45m (roof)
4. The Parks - 44m (roof)
5. UNKNOWN NAME u/c apartments next to the grosvenor apartments 33m (EST)
6. Ruthven Street Proposed Office Block 32m (Roof)
7. USQ Z Block (New Engineering Block) 32m (Observatory) previously quoted lower (to roof below observatory)
8. Empire Theatre 27m
9. Grosvenor Aparments u/c 26m http://www.hallmarkproperty.com.au/grosvenor/index.html
10. USQ S BLOCK - 25m (roof) 70m (spire)

[Joe]

http://http://www.users.tpg.com.au/pleasure/AMPABOVEs.jpg
AN INTESTING AERIAL PICTURE OF THE AMP BUILDING

[Joe]

http://www.users.tpg.com.au/pleasure/HPANDCONCENTREABOVE.jpg
HERITAGE PLAZA AND CONDAMINE CENTRE FROM ABOVE

[Joe]

http://www.users.tpg.com.au/pleasure/AMPABOVEs.jpg
AMP BUILDING FROM ABOVE

[Joe]

http://www.users.tpg.com.au/pleasure/CottesloeCrestAbove.jpg
Toowoombas Tallest From Above

[Joe]

http://www.users.tpg.com.au/pleasure/HANDCONFOOTPRINT.jpg
As you can see from the footprints, heritage plaza extends for about 100m and the condamine centre is not far behind

[bum]

HA toowoomba with its own thread - I've seen it all.

nice flower show they have, also nice place to go for a relaxing weekend stopping at all the fruit shops along the way

[Joe]

Bum mate , where are you from??. Toowoomba with over well over 100,000 deserves it own thread.

[Danubis]

yeah, it has a myer and 4 McDonalds.... tis the big smoke

[Oriolus]

Toowoomba has a Myer? When did that open. I didn't think it would be feasible - Myer refuses to open a store in Townsville (we only have Target & BigW) & Toowoomba doesn't get that many tourists does it?

On the other hand Townsville has 6 McDonalds with another one planned. Touche!! :)

[Blend]

maybe myer is cautious. Didnt they have a David jones in the mall? and it shut down?

this the reason myer wont?

[Danubis]

myer has been in toowoomba for ages, then they built grand central around the existing myer building then put cladding over it to match the new shopping centre... cant even tell they left the old building there

[Oriolus]

^^David Jones closed its CBD store in Townsville to move to suburban Stockland in 1993, then left altogether in 1997. After them Harris Scarfe used the Stockland site, but now it's been subdivided into Rebel Sports & wait for it.... a Crazy Clarks mega warehouse! Oh the humanity!!

I think the tourists who come to Toowoomba are probably more affluent then many of those in Townsville ie backpackers & probably are mainly domestic tourists as well & more inclined to shop at Myers.

[Gertzy]

You should see New South Wales, Dubbo, Nowra, Port Macquarie etc all have Grace Bros. (Upmarket version of myer, owned by colesmyer for those who haven't heard of it.) and the majority of those cities are just inbetween 20-30 000.

[mrlaxative]

Something I've heard on a very reliable grapevine (although way off topic), George Colbran & Co not only have Fairfield Waters McDonalds soon under construction, but another one again (that makes 8 Maccas in TSV!).

Mr Colbran is said to have a McDonalds Woodlands coming soon. Not many people know about it, and I don't know HOW true it is. But I'm pretty sure there will be a McDonalds popping up on the highway north of Townsville in the near future.

[JayT]

myer has been in toowoomba for ages, then they built grand central around the existing myer building then put cladding over it to match the new shopping centre... cant even tell they left the old building there
Grand central had the tallest crane in the southern hem when it was built!

jt

[Oriolus]

Wow Colbrans sure on a roll at the moment - 8 McDonalds! I wonder if he'll replace Maccas on the Mall with another CBD outlet when (if?) Flinders Mall is torn up.

To bring us back into topic a bit here's a picture of Toowoomba's Russell St, featuring a McDonalds outlet. Is that Heritage on the right?

http://www.toowoomba.com/data/photoimages/russellstreet.jpg

[Joe]

Oroilus that picture is about 8 years old . I will try and get a new picture. That is The condimine centre on the right and the heritage plaza is next to that.

http://www.skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?7373247 here is a link showing some of the toowoomba buildings.

Towoomba only has 5 McDonlads , has 4 subways as well.

[Oriolus]

Thanks Joe - do you live in Toowoomba? The picture is from Toowoomba.com & said to be taken in 1999. It would be nice to see some photos of Toowoomba's highrises but as noted by Danubis in the first post there seems to be a distinct lack of them on the net. Maybe someone from Brisbane with a digicam will go up & take some one day. :)

[Joe]

Yep i am from Toowoomba Oriolus. But have been out of town for 3 months,
going back this weekend. I could never provide many pictures as i only had a ricoh film cam. I have recently purchased a Canon A85 so i will be able to provide some interesting pics. There are i think 2 apartment blocks on the range going up and one office block downtown.

http://www.users.tpg.com.au/pleasure/to1.PNG

A small diagram of some of towoombas tallest

http://www.users.tpg.com.au/pleasure/HANDCONFOOTPRINT.jpg

Here you can use this picture to work out where the condimine centre and heritage plaza are in releation to that pic date 1999?

[Joe]

http://www.users.tpg.com.au/pleasure/to1.PNG


A small diagram of some of towoombas tallest

http://www.users.tpg.com.au/pleasure/HPANDCONFOOTPRINT.jpg

Here you can use this picture to work out where the condimine centre and heritage plaza are in releation to that pic date 1999?

http://www.hallmarkproperty.com.au/grosvenor/views.html

The link above is for some new apartments just constructed on the range

http://www.tmbamall.com/photos/grandctl02.jpg

Found this pre 2000 pic of grand central shopping centre... i reckon that it has the largest myers outside brisbane... i would hate to guess the floor space size

[Gertzy]

I'm starting to get abit annoyed in some way, that there is a Myer in Toowomba, And I mean, they keep refusing offers to come to Townsville. Maybe they could do something with Dimmeys plaza on the mall there when Woolworths leaves, to probably attract a Myer or Grace Bros or even a Two story Target, like they have in Brisbane.

[Danubis]

there is a hair dresser on the second level in the 'bay' window in that pic that i used to go to, it was great cause it had an amazing view of the cbd from that position... very noice.

[Oriolus]

Great news today - Townsville looks like getting a Myer! Check the Townsville projects thread - I'll leave this for Toowoomba.

[Joe]

http://www.users.tpg.com.au/pleasure/ToowoombaDT1..jpg

A quick pic on my way downtown
You can see the condamine centre and heritage plaza. Pic taken while travelling east along russell street

[Joe]

http://www.users.tpg.com.au/pleasure/ToowoombaDT2.jpg

another quick downtown pic. Look at all the old architecture. Condimine in the background

http://www.users.tpg.com.au/pleasure/ToowoombaDT3.jpg

a long distance shot. ...all of the shots were taken at 60+kph. On the left of the sign there is the parks apartments(white building). Further back there is cottesloe crest( the green building. Over 5k away).

On the right of the sign there is st vincents hospital (large building about 4 k way) and then if you look hard just to the right of the power post ... on the range you can see the grosvener apartments .... on just over 30m in height but seen from 5 k away

[Gertzy]

Well, that looks good. The Old buildings make something for Toowoomba

[Danubis]

http://www.users.tpg.com.au/pleasure/ToowoombaDT3.jpg

I grew up in toowoomba, and this photo is the exact memory i have of the place... look at all the gorgeous trees everywhere... very unique to toowoomba, i wish brisbanites had the same mentality about town planning where trees a concerned, tree lined streets are the best defining feature of any city

[Danubis]

lol, obviously not the street in the forground... thats fugly... but the streets in the background... you get the idea!! lol

[Danubis]

Also, another interesting fact, Toowoomba Celibrates 100 years as a City during 2004, pretty old as far as australian cities go. dont know the stats, but it would be up there amongst the first (excluding the capitals obviously) in australia.

[JayT]

I grew up in toowoomba, and this photo is the exact memory i have of the place... look at all the gorgeous trees everywhere... very unique to toowoomba, i wish brisbanites had the same mentality about town planning where trees a concerned, tree lined streets are the best defining feature of any city
I like how in Toowoomba they hang the street lights over the middle of the roadway - because of the trees. They do that with traffic lights also don't they?
I actually counted how many traffic lights there were in Toowoomba - there are 86 intersections with lights!!!

jt

[Danubis]

i think they're actually replacing most of those hanging lights cause they kept falling onto the traffic in high wind storms... but i know what you mean, they had a certain charm

[Danubis]

We've seeemed to have lost all the info on the Grosvner, the new residential building they are building on the range... does anyone have the picture of it still? it was on another thread but its gone away now :-(

Edit: i found some details about it and started a new thread for it :-)

[Joe]

http://www.users.tpg.com.au/pleasure/TOOWOOMBA/USQfront1.jpg

Just a quick pic of the admin block and in the back ground S block with a spire that reachs to 70 m. There is a cool 6th Storey observation deck i would love to get to

[CULWULLA]

joe. i have a few questions for ya.
is the condamine centre the grey looking building? is it 8 office floors? with plantroom maybe 36m high? where did you get 46m from? is that an official height or estimated?
also the 70m spire you mention. what is it attached to? a school or church?
it doesnt look 70m either? maybe 30-40m.
Is Cottelsloe Crest exist?
i would like to add to ss.com, but need accurate info.
sorry to hit you wth so many queries.
cheers

[CULWULLA]

heres a forum for locals>

http://toowoombatalk.com/forum/
just some pix i found

nice water tower>
http://www.toowoomba.com/data/photoimages/watertower.jpg

classic town hall

http://www.toowoomba.com/data/photoimages/townhall.jpg

skyline

http://www.toowoomba.com/data/photoimages/town.jpg

massive silos
http://www.toowoomba.com/data/photoimages/silos.jpg

Mecure hotel
http://www.advences.com/share/hotels2/RT/3217/3217H00.gif

Church of christ
http://www.deh.gov.au/cgi-tmp/photodb2678216430.jpg

swansons Bridge (1900_
http://www.deh.gov.au/cgi-tmp/photodb2070416639.jpg

[Joe]

2 years ago my mate worked in the city council office, gave me all the details i qoute. He asked me what heights i wanted to know and he told me ... he does not work there anymore so i have no way of accurately backing up the info, i trusted him as he had no reason to change the figures. These days you contact the city council and they give you nothing.

SS.com has cottesloe crest and the condimine centre already on there.

The spire i talk about is at the University of Southern Queensland. From my information it is 23m to roof ....26m to observation floor roof and then a 44 meter spire is attached....

The information he gave me about condamine centre was 11floors above ground and 2 below... has a 2 extra floors on one side due to lay of land

I personally would not have a clue about heights ... i cant tell from photos.

This is another shot of the Spire atop the USQ S blockftp://users.tpg.com.au/TOOWOOMBA/4oct2004%20Sblock.jpg

[Joe]

http://www.users.tpg.com.au/pleasure/TOOWOOMBA/4oct2004%20Sblock.jpg

[Danubis]

awww memories... i did half an arts degree at usq, i remember vomiting under one of those conifers after a night out at the uni club...

[CULWULLA]

thanks joe. i reckon the spire has a total height of 44m. not 44m + 26m. it really does look only 150ft high.only looks 10storeys high?
the 4-5 storey bldg would have 3.5m floors, thus 15m high ob deck-18m then 26m spire- total-44m.?
Cottelsoe Crest would b lucky to be 49m not 69m? its just 16floors ,x3m =48m.
ill contact Toowwomba council to enquire about heights.
ill let you know how i go
cheers

[Joe]

Hope you have more luck than me mate. Thanks culwulla for taking an interest in the toowomba side of things

[CULWULLA]

hi again. no worries. when i did research on churches around Australia, the Toowoomba St pats cathedral impressed me. Its a pity the enormous tower /spire was built. it would of been a landmark at 40m high!

http://www.deh.gov.au/cgi-tmp/photodb2678623403.jpg

i had a good chat to a toowoomba city planner and she told me a few things.
She said Cottelsloe Crest was built 1997-98 and has 28 units with 9ft ceilings. so she reckons 10ft/3m floor to floor, so 16x 3m =48m. not sure if it has a plantroom?
not sure who put it on ss.com as 69m?
ill amend it asap.
also is it pos for someone to take a pic of it ? i lve to see the complete elevation.
She also said about new city plan which limits highrise to 8-9 storeys.
So Cottelsoe will be tallest for a while.
heres a pic of base from realestate .com

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/2505/101842505ml1094194583.jpg

[Joe]

Will have to get you a shot from other side ... Found out details of S BLock at USQ

. 17.25 m to roof.
21.05 m to observation roof
54.55 m to top of Spire

Ground Level (FOYER LEVEL) . 0 - 3.85m ---(1.5m below ground)
Floor 1 3.85 - 7.20m (FLOORS are 3.35m)
Floor 2 7.20 - 10.55m
Floor 3 10.55 - 13.90m
Floor 4 13.90m - 17.25m ---- TOP OF ROOF
PLANT ROOM 17.25 - 20.00m ----- TOP OF PLANTROOM
Floor 5 17.25m - 21.05m ---- TOP OF OBSERVATION ROOF(NOT FOR PUBLIC)(3.8m)
SPIRE 21.05m - 54.55m ---- TOP OF Antennae ( Used for Communicaiton --- formley broadcasted 4BBD.)

[CULWULLA]

excellent Joe! i knew it wasnt 70m but 54m is quite tall.

ive noticed the skyscraperpage is also way out. A Joe Mathews has put in a few diagrams which are all wrong.
im trying to contact him to let him know to amend

heres the list now on ss.com

1. Cottesloe Crest 49 m/ 16 /1998
2. Condamine Centre 46 m /11/ 1989
3. Heritage Plaza 45 m /11 /1989
4. The Parks 44 m /12 /1990
there are currenty no photos.
we need photos.

[Joe]

ok see what i can do... hard for me to get pics , always working out of town

[Joe]

Culwulla , cottesloe crest has a triangled shaped structure on the roof. Has to be 2 meters.... 50m might be more accurate

[Joe]

Just saw you post ... 49 m it is.

[Danubis]

on ss.com cullwulla, Heritage is on corner of Ruthven street and Bell st mall and The Parks is on Margaret street

[Joe]

Good Stuff Danubis , you know your toowoomba. I would have to join you on the spewing under th conifers. Damn USQ club

[Danubis]

Hey joe, have you heard any more about the proposed commercial building in the cbd? you mentioned something here at the begining of the year but we havnt heard any more? I dont hear much about toowoomba since ive moved to bris, people down here think us toowoomba folk a bit on the hillbilly side, so i dont mention it much in conversation lol. but yeah, back on topic, if you've heard any more about the commercial building, please spill the beans...

cheers.

danubis.

[Joe]

Danubis, the office project in the cbd is still up for tender i think. Land has been cleared but it has been that way for 6 months. Signs are all still up , but no activity. Not sure what is happening. Will try to find out more.

[Joe]

Got Some details about the mecure hotel, downtown Toowoomba.

Foyer ---- 0 - 4.00
Floor 1 ----- 4.00 - 7.45
Floor 2 ----- 7.45 - 10.90
Floor 3 ----- 10.90 - 14.35
Floor 4 ----- 14.35 - 17.80
Floor 5 ----- 17.80 - 21.25 (TOP OF ROOF)
Plant Room - 21.25 - 23.85 (TOP OF PLANT ROOM)
Sign on Side 21.25 - 22.75

[Joe]

A few pics of downtown . Very foggy
Take from the 4 storey of the city car park. about 15m up.

Grand Central in the back ground, heritage on the right

http://www.users.tpg.com.au/pleasure/TOOWOOMBA/18hoct2004%20016gc.jpg

Looking at the Condimine centre... the top 6 stories showing, with plant room on top.

http://www.users.tpg.com.au/pleasure/TOOWOOMBA/18hoct2004%20013con.jpg

Looking Past the condimine centre toward the large silos in the background

http://www.users.tpg.com.au/pleasure/TOOWOOMBA/18hoct2004%20023con3.jpg

[Joe]

Looking towards the mecure hotel. The brick building directly in front is an old church building. Maybe housing homeless people. Now is an employment agency. (4 st approx 14m) on the right there is a blue building which is the amp building ( 4st official 18m to plant room).

On the far right behind the amp building is the city hall tower (approx 23m to top of mast)

http://www.users.tpg.com.au/pleasure/TOOWOOMBA/18hoct2004%20027mecurehotel.jpg

[Joe]

Another pic from a different angle, this time from the other side of the cbd. Still about 13-15m up in the 4 storey of the grand cenral carpark.

http://www.users.tpg.com.au/pleasure/TOOWOOMBA/18hoct2004%20037citysouth.jpg

[CULWULLA]

hey joe! i spy a brick chimney! im always trying to compile data for all brick chimneys in Australia. i haven tgot this one.
what is it part of?
would you know how old chimney is?
high high is it est?
does it rise 6storeys from ground thru old bldg?
any answers would be cool
http://www.users.tpg.com.au/pleasure/TOOWOOMBA/18hoct2004%20013con.jpg

[Joe]

Another Quick View toward the silo. In the foreground you can see the 3 floor attached onto the tinroof?? up to the 10thfloor so about 12 to 40m

http://www.users.tpg.com.au/pleasure/TOOWOOMBA/18hoct2004%20022con2.jpg

[Joe]

Culwulla will find out more info on the chimney. But yeah it is quite large, not sure why they needed a chimney that large. I know about 20 years ago there used to be a large bakery in that area. Have seen pictures of it at uni. Will try and get u some scans. The pics i have seen are like 60 years old at least so 60+ years ,,, maybe up to 80 or 90 . Think it would have been built when this area when ahead about 80 ot 90 years ago.

Yeah Rises from the gound, through the building which they have now built around. I reckon it could be protected.

[Joe]

Just got some details. I was about 14 metres of the ground

6m to roof of 1st level of carpark
3.2m 1 to 2
3.2m 2 to 3
1 m space 3 to 4
.5 m sidings ( I was using to take photos)
WALL you can see is approx 15m
(15.62m To Camera) + 1.72m (my height)

I would say it is 9 m above where the wall is so.... 24m.

[CULWULLA]

wow, thanks for calcs! 24m. excellent ! i wonder how old it is?

[Joe]

A pic of the MLC building. Cant work out how high it is, i have 16m in my toowoomba list but seem higher that that. ( Take from the 3rd floor of the carpark

6m to roof of 1st level of carpark
3.2m 1 to 2
1m space 2 to 3
+1.72m to camera height... so 12m approx

It is a 4 storey office block with plant room



http://www.users.tpg.com.au/pleasure/TOOWOOMBA/18hoct2004%20026old%20mlc.jpg

[Joe]

View of empire theatre from City Car Park

http://www.users.tpg.com.au/pleasure/TOOWOOMBA/18hoct2004%20024empire.jpg

[Danubis]

Danubis, the office project in the cbd is still up for tender i think. Land has been cleared but it has been that way for 6 months. Signs are all still up , but no activity. Not sure what is happening. Will try to find out more.

Again amazing pics joe! much appreciated, makes me feel homesick :cry:

where abouts have they cleared the site for tender? as in street address... just trying to get an idea where abouts they're trying to push for this sorta development, cause i would have assumed it that it would be better to creat a 'hub' around the exisiting heritage/condamine buildings, so that bell street mall can be fully utilised instead of the 'slum' feel at the moment.

[Danubis]

Also joe, how high would you guess the new toowoomba base hospital to be? i remember when i worked there were about 8 floors in the lift! lol
its hard to work out the floor to ceiling ratio (maybe someone knows standard for hospital floor heights), cause there was a void in between each floor where gases/scavenging/cables and wires all ran through - i remeber watching a sparky fix something in one of the theatres in the void, and it looks to be about a 1.5m void. so guessing that the floor to ceiling is 3m + 1.5m void = 4.5m per floor. 4.5m x 8 floors = 36m. (also ground floor was higher then the rest cause of the foyer and the escilators but havnt factored in this calculation) Theres also a feature that goes to a higher point with the 'tmba base hospital' in lights on it which may double as plant room possibly. say another 3m. so the base hospital would be about 39m in height by my guestimates (therefore worthy of emporis.com toowoomba page), but i wouldn't be suprised if it were slightly higher... a pic of it would be great joe for working it out properly.. (if you find the time)

thanx champ.

danubis.

[Joe]

The cleared site is between the amp building and mecure hotel. I would say 400 ruthven street. Straight across from the art gallery.

The thing that annoys me about the mall is that on the eastern side of the condimine centre there is a vacant piece of land that is just used for a car park. A canadian man bought it a while ago but i think the building he proposed was knocked back.

From memory it was a little to large for toowoomba. A 22 storey building featuring 2 levels of shopping, 6 levels of office , 13 levels of hotel and 1 level of restruaunt/nightclub/function room.. Was to be 86m i think a few names come to me ( Phoneix Tower, MaCafferties Plaza, Sunset Plaza)

As for the hospital i think that there is 8 stories and a feature on top. Possibly make it 40m.Will have to get a pic for a better idea

Foyer 5m
1 -2 ----4.5
2 -3 ----4.5
3 -4 ----4.5
4 -5 ----4.5
5 -6 ----4.5
6 -7 ----4.5
7 -8 ----4.5 TOP OF ROOF (36.5m)
TOP OF PLANT 39.5m (approx)
Lighting Rod 3m 42.5m to top

[CULWULLA]

i was told the hospital is rather tall by planner.
thanks for stats.
ive found most hospitals are 40m tall.due to height restrictions in the burbs.
whats official name and address of hospital?
is it St Andrews at 280 North st?
or base hospital>
http://www.usq.edu.au/faculty/science/depts/nursing/midwifery/dswmedia/media/images/intro/tbh.jpg

[Joe]

That would be base hospital.

[Oriolus]

Great work with all the pic and stats Joe

Cul - do you know anything about the brick chimney at the site of the old Ross River Meatworks in Townsville. It's pretty big. My info is that it was built in 1891 and was operational until 1995 when the meatworks closed down & were later demolished and the area was turned into a housing estate - Fairfield Waters - the chimney remains and was going to be incorporated into the housing estate but the developers havn't touched it - it's sitting in an empty field at the moment.

[CULWULLA]

yes i know of the stack at old meat works. its a beauty! i have pix but not scanned. I had it measured at a lofty -40m tall.
Its great how the old stacks are incorporated into new housing estates. this has happened many times now all around Australia.
heres an old pic of the works with dominating stack

http://www.photosau.com/thuringowa/PiclibTh/jsmall/0006/0006897.jpg

[Gertzy]

That Empire thertre looks quite impressive. It looks bigger than Readings in Townsville. And thats our biggest Cinema complex. Is it a Cinema Complex or just a Thertre. If its a thertre then that too is bigger than Civic.

[Danubis]

its a proper performing arts theatre, although it used to be used as a cinema in the 40's or something. was only done up and reopened in 1997.

[Joe]

They are expanding the empire theatre at the moment, drove past the other day and there was a crane on site, and workers.

[Joe]

http://www.users.tpg.com.au/pleasure/TOOWOOMBA/19102004Empire1.jpg

Tried to take a pic while driving yesterday, didnt quite get it. You can see the crane beside the Empire

http://www.users.tpg.com.au/pleasure/TOOWOOMBA/19102004Sblock.jpg

A picture of the foyer of Sblock at USQ. Has a spire attached to the roof which goes to 55m

[Gertzy]

Its looks more like a cinema complex than a Performing arts Thertre. It looks quite impressive though.

[Joe]

yeah quite an impressive structure. at least there are many tall buildings near it so you can see it from a far distance

[Danubis]

i was told the hospital is rather tall by planner.
thanks for stats.
ive found most hospitals are 40m tall.due to height restrictions in the burbs.
whats official name and address of hospital?
is it St Andrews at 280 North st?
or base hospital>
http://www.usq.edu.au/faculty/science/depts/nursing/midwifery/dswmedia/media/images/intro/tbh.jpg

Its got an amzazing 360 view from the top floor of the new complex. if you get a side on view of the hospital you can get an idea of how massive the whole place is, cause its got another 3 buildings behind it that run all the way up to james street. 2 were to be demolished but Q health decided it was too expensive.

Hey cul, is the 40m height enough to get it onto skyscrapers.com? if so 'yay' for toowoomba, a whole 5 buildings on there!! tehehe :)

also, has there been a thread on australian hospitals on here? since they make such an impact architectually to most australian city's, especially the regional ones.

[Joe]

Yeah 40 m is enough to get the hospital onto SS.com. Will try and get a side shot. Monday i have some buisness downtown so will try then

[Danubis]

thanx joe, you're the bestest... ive just noticed its been added to emporis.com (aka skyscrapers.com), the new building thats 40m high was completed in 1997 cullwulla. it was built around the same time as grand central in the centre of town. i remember because there were something like 4 huge cranes in toowoomba, which was a bizaar feeling for town like toowoomba.

[Danubis]

also joe, i just remembered the huge chimney stack at the back of the hospital which was used to burn all the body parts that we cut off in operations (and soiled linen too). it would have to be the highest structure in toowoomba, it seemed about twice the height of the hospital building... what do you think?

[Joe]

yeah i drove past it the other day seems very tall. Will have a look tommorrow, try and get a pic.

[Joe]

http://www.users.tpg.com.au/pleasure/TOOWOOMBA/04OCT2004CLUB.jpg

USQ CLUB ,,, ar the memories

[Joe]

Cottesloe crest may be higher than 49m . Got pic of the roof today... While driving to brisbane.

The strucure on the roof looks 3 or 4 m??

http://www.users.tpg.com.au/pleasure/TOOWOOMBA/topofcottesloe.jpg

[Danubis]

Have they started construction of the new part of Clifford Gardens yet joe? there was talk of adding a cinema complex jutting out from the existing food court (with the windows facing james street) heard anything about that?

[Joe]

no word of that yet. but have heard there was to be an extension with ALDI... the new supermarket chain

[Joe]

A pic of USQ tallest building to roof

http://home.ripway.com/2004-10/192634/TOOWOOMBA%20PICS/19hoct2004zblock.jpg

Foyer 0 -4m
1 4 - 7.9m
2 7.9-11.8m
3 11.8 - 14.7m
Plant Room 14.7 - 18.6m
Observation 18.6 - 27.6m ( 29m to top of Fence on Obs Deck)
33m to top of aerials

[Joe]

Not a real good shot of the hospital. Gives you idea of how tall the smoke stack is. The hospital is the building you can see in the centre an is 40m.

http://home.ripway.com/2004-10/192634/TOOWOOMBA%20PICS/19hoct2004BASEHOSPITAL.jpg

[Joe]

A pic of USQ from ruthven street, about 2kms away

http://home.ripway.com/2004-10/192634/TOOWOOMBA%20PICS/19hoct2004UNIFROMDISTANCE.jpg

[Joe]

http://home.ripway.com/2004-10/192634/TOOWOOMBA%20PICS/City26102004_1.jpg

A quick pic of the city from the 5th storey of the grand central car park.. about 17m + up. You can see the nothern part of the city.

The black arrow shows where a took most of the other pics from ... Baileys look taller that i thought.. 25m?

[JayT]

What is happening with the Bypass and tunnels projects on the North side of town? From the main roads website it looks exciting!!!

jt

[Danubis]

http://home.ripway.com/2004-10/192634/TOOWOOMBA%20PICS/City26102004_1.jpg

A quick pic of the city from the 5th storey of the grand central car park.. about 17m + up. You can see the nothern part of the city.

The black arrow shows where a took most of the other pics from ... Baileys look taller that i thought.. 25m?

i would guess about 20m perhaps... but i agree, i never really noticed it was that high either... for those outside of toowoomba, baileys is on the 'exact centre' of toowoomba... at the intersection of ruthven and margaret streets... and is where the toowoomba's living christmas tree is aswell.

on another note, does anyone have any pictures of the new oblisks - public art in ruthven street?

[Joe]

Sorry about that ... forgot to label where baileys was. I have some pics of the oblisks in ruthven street . Just have to scan them.

[Joe]

Some Art In Toowoomba

Margaret Street Art

http://home.ripway.com/2004-10/192634/TOOWOOMBA%20PICS/ToowoombaArtMargSt.jpg

Ruthven Street Art

http://home.ripway.com/2004-10/192634/TOOWOOMBA%20PICS/ArtRuthvenStreet51104.jpg

Toowoomba Base Hospital Side View

http://home.ripway.com/2004-10/192634/TOOWOOMBA%20PICS/TwmbaBase261004.jpg

[Joe]

Originall built 1912. Elevation of 24m . Original use Unknown. One of the highest structures in Toowoomba in 1912

http://home.ripway.com/2004-10/192634/TOOWOOMBA%20PICS/Chim51104.jpg

[Danubis]

Hey Joe, have you heard any news about the quarry gardens project 'utopia'? ive been checking the website - http://www.quarrygardens.com.au but I dont think its been updated for like a year... ive even tryed writing to the email address they provide for 'more information' but the slackers havnt replied.... so yeah. any info would be great cause it looks like a great project for toowoomba. Hope it goes ahead.

Cheers.

Danubis.

[Danubis]

i started a thread for quarry gardens... i think it deserves its own :)


Edit - Also joe, ive heard whispers that clive burghoffer has sold off village fair and the new owners have turned it into a sorta harbor town... my friends told me its called 'garden town' lol... hopefully they were just having a lend of me... such a cliche name... even for the garden city.

[Joe]

No that is true. About 2 months ago village fair closed for renevations and after we have Garden Town. Have not actually shopped but i have heard you can get lots of bargins there.

[Danubis]

:rofl:

[Blend]

lol. so its a mix of Harbour town and Garden City

[Joe]

hahahaha thats funny ... toowoomba is a very creative city by the looks

[Danubis]

i found a good picture of the Toowoomba CBD.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/danubiis/toowoombacbd1.jpg

unusual angle. as in hard to take a shot of the city from such a vantage point... so very impressed.

[Danubis]

a comparision of toowoomba's tallest, and the soon to be tallest in the world, burj dubai

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/danubiis/tmbacatchingup.jpg

[Blend]

Toowoombas tallest beside the Enviromission Solar Tower
http://tinypic.com/lh73q

[Blend]

or cottesloe beside the illinois
http://tinypic.com/lh7on

[Danubis]

awww, cottesloe is just higher then the steps of the illinois

[Joe]

Great pic of Toowoomba CBD danubis. How did they get that angle??

[Danubis]

i reckon its from ontop of the big silo's near the foundry, northern end or ruthven street (is that the smarter end of ruthven or the stupid? i can never remember)

[Danubis]

ive been away from ssc for about 3 months... is there anything exciting happenin in my home town? surely there must be some go ahead with that 20 story commercial tower there was talk about a while back... there must be some resi's at least?!?!

[Danubis]

it was in the courier mail today that toowoomba had the lowest unemployment in the state and second lowest in the country. at 2.8%, its well below the national average of 5.1%. The Eastern suburbs of sydney had the lowest in the country.

[Danubis]

New motel aims to be city’s finest
29.01.2005

___________

CONSTRUCTION has started on a new Toowoomba motel which aims to be the best the Garden City has to offer.

Work started on the $5million Eastgate on the Range on Thursday with the completion date for "Toowoomba’s finest motel" set down for the second week in August — just in time for the city’s premier event, The Carnival of Flowers.

Between 40 and 50 local contractors will be employed throughout the 29-week, $3million Hutchison Builders contract.

Located at the top of the Range, Eastgate features 39 rooms, from standard motel rooms and units to two- and three-bedroom self-contained bungalows. Set on 8001sqm, it is also the site of Queensland’s first motel, Shannon’s Range Motel, and has frontages to the Range Highway, Burnage Street and Tourist Road.

The old Range Motel was demolished some years ago and part of the land sold off for a restaurant.

Former Toowoomba restaurant and motel owner, Bill Klaassen (pictured) heads the development company with partners Graham Newnham (real estate principal) and Brian Hodgen (architect).


http://www.thechronicle.com.au/storydisplay.cfm?storyid=3622040&thesection=localnews&thesubsection=&thesecondsubsection=

[Joe]

I havent been in Toowoomba for ages. Not much happening as far as i can tell. Interesting story about the motel on the range.. wonder how many stories it is

[Joe]

I heard a rumour about a 11 storey multi-purpose building.... hunted around ... got the figures and a picture today.

1-3 commercial development ( 0 - 14m)
3-11 residential development ( 14m - 38m)
Feature on Roof ( 38m - 41m)

http://home.ripway.com/2004-10/192634/TOOWOOMBA%20PICS/TOOWOOMBAVISION_2005.jpg

[Danubis]

cool, thats in margaret street...'eat street' end. at last!! something in toowoomba, was about bloody time!!.

story from the chronicle -

http://www.thechronicle.com.au/storydisplay.cfm?storyid=3623484&thesection=localnews&thesubsection=&thesecondsubsection=

Unique project to bring old church back to life
10.02.2005

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/danubiis/PAGE1_09christ.jpg

AN HISTORIC Toowoomba church is set to be brought back to life as part of a unique inner-city development.

The proposed $13 million Margaret Street project would create the city’s first combined high-rise residential, commercial and retail development.

Building contractor and project manager FK Gardner & Sons plan to restore the former Church of Christ chapel and construct an outdoor bar and restaurant as well as a nine-storey residential and office space building.

"It is a first," FK Gardner & Sons managing director Gary Gardner said. "It’s bringing an old building back to life, providing a use for it."

Formerly the Trades Hall building, the century-old Romanesquestyle chapel at one stage faced the prospect of demolition when it could not be sold.

Mr Gardner said the company intended to restore the church, including its historic ceiling, with part of it to be a foyer into the multi-storey building. Part could also be a display area for local wineyards and producers to showcase their wares.

A development application has been lodged with the Toowoomba City Council and Mr Gardner said the company hoped to start construction in September. Construction would take around 12 months.

The nine-storey complex to be built behind the church comprises two floors of office space and seven floors of units and overlooks the retail section on Margaret Street.

Business Development Manager Heather Gardner said the development would have character, incorporating the historic church, with luxury units to have views across Queens Park.

"The feedback has been very positive. A lot of people like the flexibility of having office space in a residential development," she said.

Mr Gardner was confident about demand for quality office space and also believed the unit market in Toowoomba was picking up.

The Church of Christ building at 133 Margaret Street was built more than a century ago by the Congregational Church.

Considered an unusual example of a Romanesque revival-style church, with belltower and turrets, it is on the Heritage Council’s register of the national estate.

FK Gardner & Sons, originally based at Brookstead, has been in Toowoomba for 15 years.

The company is currently building a new medical centre in Toowoomba as well as a three-storey office block in Kitchener street.

[jellyman]

cool mcgool

[Joe]

The article says 9 stories .... i have a new source in the city council and she seem to think that is was 11 ....

Figures i got were

0-1 5m
1-2 4m
2-3 4m
3-11 3.55m
Feature 3m

So if it is 9 stories that would make it 37m approx. Ground 5m + 32m 1-9stories

[Danubis]

article says 9 story of res i thought, + 2 commercial = 11 stories

[CULWULLA]

great news guys! looks superb!
so what height will i put on ss.com
11 storeys?
name of tower?
height-37m or 41m?
cheers

[Joe]

Well at this stage it still looks to be

11 stories at 41m
The Name is at the moment : Garden City Tower

[Danubis]

that romanesque church as a foyer to your apartment!?!! how cool is that!

[Joe]

That would be cool. You should buy one danubis

[Oriolus]

that romanesque church as a foyer to your apartment!?!! how cool is that!

Amen to that danubis. lol
Hopefully this will act as a catalyst for other major projects in the CBD.

[Danubis]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/danubiis/Twmbapic.jpg

Ive copyed this off skyscraperpage and put in the new building, also note that i've altered to height of cotestloe cres to its real height of 49m, not the 69.9 as quoted on ssp.

[Malt]

nice job

[Danubis]

here's a pic that culwulla posted last year in this thread of the church itself

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/danubiis/romanesque.jpg

[Joe]

Nice diagram Danubis

[Joe]

You should put that diagram on SSP danubis

[Joe]

Just a quick pict of some of the extra buildings in toowoomba

http://home.ripway.com/2004-10/192634/TOOWOOMBA%20PICS/NEWTOOWOOMBASCAPE5.jpg

[Danubis]

very noice joe, we'll have to get onto that new office building, 8 stories will still impact the toowoomba cbd.

[Joe]

Yeah a friend of mine said that he saw a billboard posted for a new 8 storey commercial tower. I asked him to take a picture of it and send it to me.

[Joe]

Trilogy Apartments


Source... The Chronicle
http://www.thechronicle.com.au/storydisplay.cfm?storyid=3624180&thesection=localnews&thesubsection=&thesecondsubsection=

Approved to Start In July


Official Height 37m
9 stories

http://home.ripway.com/2004-10/192634/TOOWOOMBA%20PICS/IMG_4279forweb.jpg

[Malt]

booming :P

[Joe]

Trilogy Towers
Cost 30 million dollars
Start Construction July 2005
Finish Construction August 2006

http://home.ripway.com/2004-10/192634/TOOWOOMBA%20PICS/TRILOGYTOWERS.jpg

[Danubis]

excellent news!! is 30 million a bit much for a nine story building tho? and why is it called trillogy???

[Oriolus]

Great news. This is bigger than the render suggests

It comprised one floor of retail with a mezzanine level, one floor of commercial space, eight luxurious penthouses, 10 sub-penthouses and three floors of serviced apartments.

In all, the building would include 61 apartments as well as a conference room, gym, lap pool and barbecue facilities.

It must be pretty long heh?

[Danubis]

from the chronicle - joe posted the link b4 :)

$30 million development to inject life into inner city
16.02.2005



A $30 MILLION development of a type not seen before in Toowoomba is set to change the city’s skyline and inject life into the central business district.

Work will begin in July on an eightstorey complex opposite City Hall in Ruthven Street comprising not only retail, high-rise residential and commercial levels, but also prestigious serviced apartments.

A consortium including local developer Roger Telford and Prime Property Investment managing director Sid Knell has acquired a vacant block and an adjoining site in Ruthven Street to build "Trilogy Apartments".

News of the approved project comes just days after building contractor and project manager FK Gardner & Sons unveiled plans for a $13 million high-rise residential, retail and commercial development in Margaret Street.
Market analysts point to growing demand for high-rise apartment living, including in the CBD, which would boost inner city cafes, restaurants and retailers.

Urban Development Institute of Australia, Toowoomba president Ron Barclay said such developments were good for the city, good for retail and good for restaurants in the CBD.

"It’s a sign of the city growing up," he said.

Prime Property Investment business development manager James Latta said the Trilogy Apartments project was unique for Toowoomba.

"(It has) four different varieties of space in one building," he said.

Trilogy Apartments, which would be built across the two blocks on Ruthven Street, would have three levels of sub-basement parking, with 130 car spaces.

It comprised one floor of retail with a mezzanine level, one floor of commercial space, eight luxurious penthouses, 10 sub-penthouses and three floors of serviced apartments.

In all, the building would include 61 apartments as well as a conference room, gym, lap pool and barbecue facilities.

Mr Latta said the Toowoomba City Council had approved plans for the development, with the building scheduled to be completed around August/September, 2006.

Prices for the apartments would range from just below $300,000 for two bed room apartments and around $550,000 for the penthouses, he said.

Marcus Eames, of LJ Hooker Commercial in Toowoomba, said innercity residential developments presented lifestyle options for a growing city.

"It is definitely a good thing for the CBD and Toowoomba," he said.

The Chronicle Online (http://www.thechronicle.com.au/storydisplay.cfm?storyid=3624180&thesection=localnews&thesubsection=&thesecondsubsection=)

[Danubis]

Do you think this is seperate to that other rumoured 8 story office building thats was planned? or is the rumoured project?

[Joe]

No unfortunately not ... it is on the same block of land as the 8 storey commercial building so .... unless they can find another block in the city does not look good. There is only one spare block in the city. It had a proposal about 5 years ago of a 20 storey monster (for toowoomba) but there were aboriginal land claims as it joins the Atsic building?. Sunset Plaza i think was what it was called.

Not sure why they called it Trilogy Towers. Updated diagram of Toowoomba City.

http://home.ripway.com/2004-10/192634/TOOWOOMBA%20PICS/TOOWOOMBABACKINGfeb16.jpg

[Joe]

Trinity Towers Dimensions

Height 37m
Width 18m
Lenght 55m

Cost at 30million must be really decked out

[CULWULLA]

excellent guys! ive added to ss.com. remember any highrise over 35m is eligible for ss.com.
Hey Joe, dont forget to add Toowoomba base Hospital.Its 9 storeys and 40m to LMR and 36m to roof.
cheers

[Joe]

A 3d Model of Toowoomba in its early stages ... The red is the new apartment block at 133 margret street(Construction Start August)... The Green is Garden town Shopping Centre. Heritage Plaza is the brown building. The Condamine Centre is just to the right. The new apartment block "Trinity Towers is off to the right of screen.

http://home.ripway.com/2004-10/192634/TOOWOOMBA%20PICS/TOOWOOMBACITY3DAlpha117022005small.jpg

[Malt]

what program did you use?

[Joe]

I use Bryce 5 , its more a landscape tool but i find it useful for 3d modeling . The only thing it does not have is the accuracy 3DS max does.

[Malt]

i use 3ds max.... well i did before the program decided to lock me out.
Ill get round to reinstalling.. but meh.
I kept all my files so i dont have to rush

[Danubis]

updated pic with hospital

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/danubiis/Twmbapicnew.jpg

I dont think the height on emporis is right for the Toowoomba Base Hospital... its 40 m to the top floor... but as you can see in this picture.. theres a roof feature that extends much higher then 40m...
side view of hospital curtisy of joe ->

http://home.ripway.com/2004-10/192634/TOOWOOMBA%20PICS/TwmbaBase261004.jpg[/QUOTE]

cul, could your discerning eye guess the height approximately of the roof feature and update the details on emporis?

[CULWULLA]

when i contacted hospital, they said it was 40m overall, which includes plant ect.
but ill recheck if you want.
cheers
thanks for pic

[Danubis]

oh ok :) sorry to question cul, lol just hopin for some extra height ;)

[Joe]

The tallest part of the hospital is the Smoke Stack out the back. Would say it is 50m plus.

[Danubis]

Lifestyle + Technology + Position (TRILOGY TOOWOOMBA)
$315,000
15/16 RUTHVEN TOOWOOMBA
SETTING A NEW STANDARD FOR THE DARLING DOWNS
Quest apartments are located in the main street of Toowoomba across the road from the Town Hall. The development comprises 33 ‘dual keyed’ large two bedroom apartments and two one bedroom apartments. Within the complex is a swimming pool, spa, sauna, gymnasium and café. The development also has underground parking and a stylish foyer and concierge style front desk. This is an ideal place for conferences and functions. This complex is linked to the information superhighway as each apartment will be linked to broadband, Internet and cable television. On the ground floor of the complex will be commercial space available for usage as retail or restaurant/cafes or office space. There will also be a number of residential apartments within the complex.

Quest Toowoomba offers all the luxury of a resort and provides four star quality to the traveller or ‘corporate stay’ guest.

Quest Toowoomba has commercial accommodation and a mixture of residential apartments and serviced apartments which has been distributed throughout the 7 levels of Quest Toowoomba.

Technology

Each room is linked to the 21st century via Interent, broadband and cable television. This development truly raises the standards for the Darling Downs. Corporate and leisure travellers will have everything at their fingertips. Of course such well appointed apartments means that the investor can claim handsome tax depreciation benefits!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/danubiis/102214069ml1108618087.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/danubiis/102214069cl1108618090.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/danubiis/102214069al1108618088.jpg

[Danubis]

no one cares about toowoomba :(

[Oriolus]

I care about Toowoomba :) So Trilogy will be run by Quest heh? How real do those renders look. I thought that last one was a photo at first.

[JayT]

no one cares about toowoomba :(

Yes we do - it has an amazing amount of development for its size and will probably continue.

jt

[Danubis]

Theatre precinct reinforces city’s cultural foundations
04.03.2005

The Chronicle (http://www.thechronicle.com.au/storydisplay.cfm?storyid=3626323&thesection=localnews&thesubsection=&thesecondsubsection=)


MOTHER Nature let rip with a massive rumble of thunder at the precise moment the Empire Theatre Centenary Conference Precinct was officially opened yesterday.

It could perhaps be taken as a roar of approval for a project that has been dogged with controversy since first mooted in the 1990s — and certainly how Empire Theatres Foundation chairman Peter Swannell would like to see it.

"It was a controversial decision in the 1990s to restore the theatre, and I think now to all who love the performing arts, it was a superb decision," he said, wiping the sweat from his brow.

(It may have fittingly — been only a theatrical gesture: it later transpired that Toowoomba City Council will fund the air-conditioning of the theatre church.)

"The precinct will also win that support by offering the people of Toowoomba the whole experience," Professor Swannell said.

One of those initially opposed to redevelopment of the Empire Theatre was Toowoomba Mayor Dianne Thorley, who was more than happy yesterday to eat her words.

"I guess I’ve had my epiphany on the road to Damascus," Cr Thorley said.

"I didn’t support it, but now I’m an advocate for the Empire Theatre.

"Paris people didn’t want the Eiffel Tower, Sydney didn’t want the Opera House or the Harbour Bridge, and Toowoomba didn’t want the Empire Theatre.

"Now we love the Empire Theatre — and the obelisks!"

More than 120 people attended yesterday’s opening, held in the fully restored 1877 gothic church adjacent to the theatre.

The magnificent original stained-glass windows threw brilliant shards of light across the guests, who were entertained by an ensemble of young instrumentalists from Harristown State High School.

The theme of the morning — "Expanding Possibilities" — was based on the aim of making the precinct the very hub of Toowoomba events and cultural life.

[Danubis]

City house prices do better than Brisbane
03.03.2005

The Chronicle (http://www.thechronicle.com.au/storydisplay.cfm?storyid=3626161&thesection=localnews&thesubsection=&thesecondsubsection=)

TOOWOOMBA house prices continued to outperform the Brisbane market in the December quarter, jumping a solid 4.6%.
However, the market may slow temporarily in the current quarter after the Reserve Bank of Australia yesterday moved to head off any pick-up in inflation by lifting interest rates by 0.25 of a percentage point.

Toowoomba’s median house price rose to $226,000 in the December quarter from $216,000 in the previous quarter.

The Real Estate Institute of Queensland Ltd (REIQ) figures were based on quarterly sales of 620. In comparison, the median Brisbane house price rose 0.6% in the quarter to $352,000.

Within Toowoomba, Rockville led the gains with a 19.4% rise in the median price of a house in the December quarter to $191,000, based on 25 sales.

Toowoomba couple Barry and Sandra Sharpe were happy with the price they recently received for their Centenary Heights home, sold by Terry Parker of Raine & Horne.

"Back when there was the boom we might have got a little bit more, but we are happy with the price," Mrs Sharpe said.

She said interest was a little slow before Christmas but after that more people had been looking.

[Malt]

Lifestyle + Technology + Position (TRILOGY TOOWOOMBA)
$315,000
15/16 RUTHVEN TOOWOOMBA
SETTING A NEW STANDARD FOR THE DARLING DOWNS
Quest apartments are located in the main street of Toowoomba across the road from the Town Hall. The development comprises 33 ‘dual keyed’ large two bedroom apartments and two one bedroom apartments. Within the complex is a swimming pool, spa, sauna, gymnasium and café. The development also has underground parking and a stylish foyer and concierge style front desk. This is an ideal place for conferences and functions. This complex is linked to the information superhighway as each apartment will be linked to broadband, Internet and cable television. On the ground floor of the complex will be commercial space available for usage as retail or restaurant/cafes or office space. There will also be a number of residential apartments within the complex.

Quest Toowoomba offers all the luxury of a resort and provides four star quality to the traveller or ‘corporate stay’ guest.

Quest Toowoomba has commercial accommodation and a mixture of residential apartments and serviced apartments which has been distributed throughout the 7 levels of Quest Toowoomba.

Technology

Each room is linked to the 21st century via Interent, broadband and cable television. This development truly raises the standards for the Darling Downs. Corporate and leisure travellers will have everything at their fingertips. Of course such well appointed apartments means that the investor can claim handsome tax depreciation benefits!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/danubiis/102214069ml1108618087.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/danubiis/102214069cl1108618090.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/danubiis/102214069al1108618088.jpg


Nice renders.
cool that its all cable'd and broadbanded up :)

[Joe]

Will get some pics of the parcel of land that trilogy is going to sit. Will be in a very prime position

[Danubis]

cool joe... is there a church on the other side of this? cause the burke and wills is on the other side as visable in the pic

[Joe]

Will get some pics today. I think the church is further down the street next to the amp offices

[Danubis]

thought i would post in here again so it moves to the first page, since certain people insist on having 20 threads for the one city :S

[Joe]

Am going to get some pics of trilogy space and garden city space tommorrow

[Danubis]

went up to toowoomba on sunday to see Grease at the Empire Theatre... got a few random pics of the cbd while i was there -

grand central -
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/danubiis/tmba20march6.jpg

heritage plaza -
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/danubiis/tmba20march5.jpg

one of 'those' oblisks -
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/danubiis/tmba20march4.jpg

another one of 'those' oblisks -
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/danubiis/tmba20march3.jpg

the new refurbished village fair (now renamed 'garden town') -
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/danubiis/tmba20march1.jpg

drive by photo of 'the parks' opposite queens park -
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/danubiis/tmba20march2.jpg

[Joe]

good pic danubis. Grand Cental is a big shopping center. The heritage building is the headquarters for the heritage building society, pretty rare for toowoomba.

[Joe]

A pic the back of the church where garden city towers is going to sit

http://home.ripway.com/2004-10/192634/TOOWOOMBA%20PICS/IMG_4508800x600jpeg.jpg

Next door is the 4 storey 18 m canberra place offices. Built back in the 30s

http://home.ripway.com/2004-10/192634/TOOWOOMBA%20PICS/IMG_4507800x600jpeg.jpg

[Blue_Copper]

shasy

[Danubis]

excellent joe, good to get different perspective of the site

[Malt]

nice pics danubis

[Danubis]

Complex sells for $36 million
23.03.2005


TOOWOOMBA’s Gardentown Shopping Centre has been bought for more than $36 million by a Perth-based property trust.
Aspen Group yesterday said it had exchanged contracts to acquire Gardentown Brand Direct Shopping Plus for $36.6 million plus acquisition costs.

The stock market-listed Aspen described Gardentown as an impressive retail centre in the heart of Toowoomba.

Aspen Group managing director Angelo Del Borrello confirmed Gardentown, formerly Village Fair, had been acquired from private Perth-based investment company Riseley Investments.

He told The Chronicle the acquisition was the first for Aspen in Toowoomba and only the second in Queensland.

"The centre has gone through a repositioning in the market and it is appealing to us,’’ he said.

Aspen said Gardentown provided 12,434 square metres of lettable area which was complemented with 750 car bays. The major tenant was a Super IGA Supermarket with a remaining lease term of 14 years.

[Joe]

A quick pic of the Trilogy Tower site. Between the white sewing building and the brick bulding is where it will sit. Sorry didnt have time to line it up.

http://home.ripway.com/2004-10/192634/TOOWOOMBA%20PICS/TRILOGYTOWERSITE800x6001.jpg

A picture from further down the street

http://home.ripway.com/2004-10/192634/TOOWOOMBA%20PICS/IMG_4767800x600.jpg

[Danubis]

Ive completed a much needed update to the toowoomba page on wikipedia. Ive put some of your pictures on there joe, I hope you dont mind :)

Toowoomba Profile on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toowoomba%2C_Queensland)

[Joe]

No that is cool danubis. Good to see that someone cares about toowoomba..

[Joe]

Picture Looking South Along Ruthven Street. Heritage Plaza is on the left.

http://home.ripway.com/2004-10/192634/TOOWOOMBA%20PICS/RuthvenStreetToSouth_1.jpg

[Joe]

Grosvenor Top . Beside Grosvenor 6 Storey Apartments plant room bout 20m

http://home.ripway.com/2004-10/192634/TOOWOOMBA%20PICS/GrovenorTop240305.jpg

[Joe]

Picture of Grosvenor Front. Basically Completed just for a few finishing touches

http://home.ripway.com/2004-10/192634/TOOWOOMBA%20PICS/GrosvenorFront240305.jpg

[Joe]

A different angle on the heritage plaza.

http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/500/276heritageplaza.jpg

[Danubis]

the grosvnor looks great!! such a classy development.

also, i've always picture a packet of cigarettes whenever i look at the heritage building?! lol anyone else get that image too?

[Joe]

Just a quick pic of where the trilogy towers is going to sit

http://home.ripway.com/2004-10/192634/TOOWOOMBA%20PICS/TRILOGYTOWERS_1.jpg

[Joe]

A picture of the Empire Theatre from the 5th Storey Grand Central car park. To the right u can just make out Grosvenor Apartments(6kms away) to the left you can see the top 7 stories of the Parks apartments(foreground) and Cottesloe Crest Apartments in the background (6kms away)

http://home.ripway.com/2004-10/192634/TOOWOOMBA%20PICS/EMPIRE_130405.jpg

[Joe]

A pic of part of the CBD from the train station. In the centre through the palm trees you can see the Heritage Plaza . To the right of the Heritage Plaza you can see a building with a wavey roof , that it the 26m Empire Theatre. To the Right of that you can see a blue square box... that is the 28m super amart sign.

http://home.ripway.com/2004-10/192634/TOOWOOMBA%20PICS/ToowoombaCity_1.jpg

[Joe]

http://www.thechronicle.com.au/storydisplay.cfm?storyID=3628956&thesection=localnews&thesubsection=


A new dual tower for toowoomba yippee. A nine storey and eight storey apartment block called argyle on kitchener. Looking for pics but have chased down the heights.

8 Storey apartments Tower 1

Ground to 1 4.5m
1 to 6 4.5 m to 26.5m
6 to 8 26.5 to 34.5m
Roof Feature 34.5 to 36m


9 Storey Apartments Tower 2

Ground to 1 4.5m
1 to 7 4.5m to 28m
7 to 9 35.5m
Roof Feature 35.5 to 38m

[Joe]

Quote Below

[Joe]

[QUOTE=Joe]http://www.thechronicle.com.au/storydisplay.cfm?storyID=3628956&thesection=localnews&thesubsection=

Click for information about photo sales
Dorothy Row says the nine-storey development would dominate the skyline. Picture: BEV LACEY


Resident concerned about memorials’ tranquillity
24.03.2005


AFTER going decades with just a handful of buildings taller than three storeys, Toowoomba has had a spate of applications or approvals for multi-storey residential buildings.

The latest is for Argyle on Kitchener, a dual-tower, eight- and nine-storey residential development with ground-floor cafe/restaurant, proposed for the corner of Kitchener and Phillip streets, opposite East Creek Park.

Submissions on the development closed last week, with Toowoomba City Council expected to vote on the application in six to eight weeks.

Argyle on Kitchener, however, has angered Phillip Street



resident Dorothy Row, who said tall buildings would block the residents’ morning sun and East Creek Park’s afternoon sun.

"Huge buildings dominating the landscape will diminish the beauty and tranquillity of East Creek Park and the memorials," she said.

ERM Projects director Andrew St Baker said ERM would release more details as the application progressed.

ERM’s application reports Argyle on Kitchener will "provide a catalyst for urban renewal and revitalisation of the city’s centre" as has occurred in other cities such as Brisbane.

"The park-oriented development utilises high-quality design and finish unlike anything else in the city at present. " Each level has a large balcony area and one tower has a splitlevel penthouse.

A traffic impact study accompanying the application said the 29 apartments would generate about 21 vehicle trips in peak hours having "negligible impact on the operation of the intersection and the road network".

Mrs Row said 29 units would add to already-horrendous peak-hour traffic problems and would reduce visibility for motorists.

And she criticised notification boards which she said gave little hint of the project’s size.

"They only listed "multiple units and food outlet’," she said.

"The residents thought that’s five or six units, but I got a funny feeling and collected the relevant documents and they were an inch thick."

[Danubis]

what a stupid bitch ^^^ !!!!

Great news tho! cant wait to see the renders for them... correct me if im wrong, but im picturing this project somewhere near the suncorp call centre building?!?

[Joe]

yes just one block north of there only bout 100m up road
... that area is really going ahead

coucil wont worry about her

[jellyman]

reduce visibility for motorists???????????????????????????????????????????

I suppose the motorists want to see the morning sun as well.

[Danubis]

So just a recap on Toowoomba's Skyline come the end of 2006

49m - Cotesloe Cresent - Built - 2001
46m - Condamine Centre - Built - 1989
45m - Heritage Plaza - Built - 1989
44m - The Parks - Built - 1990
41m - Garden City Tower - Approved - 2006
40m - Tmba Base Hospital - Built - 1997
38m - Argyle on Kitchener (Tower 2) - Proposed - 2006
37m - Trinity Towers - Approved - 2006
36m - Argyle on Kitchener (Tower 1) - Proposed - 2006
33m - The Grosvenor - Built - 2004

Finally!!! Toowoomba will have 10 buildings over 30m! quite impressive in my biased books.

Lovely Diagram :) -

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/danubiis/Twmbaskyline2006.jpg

[Malt]

Simply amazing danubis.

lol. Nice job.

I particularly like the diagrams for Argyleon Kitchner Towers 1 and 2, very detailed.

[Danubis]

lol you do better then poohead... I can find any renders of it yet

[Joe]

Danubis dont worry about anyone elses comments. There does not seem to be any renders on it yet. Am working on finding some. Yes finally we get some action in Toowoomba.

[Danubis]

lol was just jokin about malt ^

also, i was surfin' emporis and guess what i find updated?!!?!

Toowoomba's description is a little more in depth and the extra proposed buildings have been added!! Bring total for toowoomba listed on the site to 9!

Thanx cul! you're a champ!

heres what he wrote -

Toowoomba is located (700m above sea level)125 kms west of Brisbane and is Queensland's largest inland city. The city offers the best of both worlds, a relaxed lifestyle and easy access to the coastline.

Toowoomba enjoys a prosperity which is strong but stable. Although somewhat exposed to the highs and lows of the rural sector, Toowoomba has a substantial manufacturing and supply industry, a major education sector as well as a highly competitive retail industry. The historic city has 42 registered buildings with the National Trust and has now a growing modern skyline.

Emporis.com (Toowoomba Page) (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/ci/?id=103697)

[Joe]

Thanks Cul. Hope Toowoomba sustains the development. Getting to double figures would be cool.

[Danubis]

hey joe, do you know the details of that commercial building that was proposed in the bell street mall but rejected cause it was too tall in the mid 90's... so that cull can add it to 'never built' in the emporis database :-) the word 'sun' is in my head for some reason...

[Danubis]

This block can shape our city
11.05.2005

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/danubiis/tmbacbd1.jpg

THE streetscape of the northern fringe of Toowoomba’s central business district appears likely to alter dramatically with a multi-million-dollar, prime site up for sale.

Energy company Energex has put the high-profile 9905-square metre development site at 3 Neil Street on the market after making little use of it over the past seven years.

Marketing agents Damian Tutt and Robert Dunne, from Savills, said surrounding development comprised retail, commercial and hospitality industries.

"This property is the most significant development site to hit the market in Toowoomba this year," Mr Tutt said.

Zoning allowed for extensive uses including retail, residential, commercial or mixed-use development.

Mr Tutt said expressions of interest in the site would close on June 3.

Already Savills had received significant enquiries from possible buyers.

The property is at the northwestern corner of Neil Street and Chalk Drive, some 600 metres from the intersection of Ruthven and Margaret streets.

Energex said the sale would not impact on its operations.

A spokesman said the land had been surplus to needs since it was acquired along with other Allgas assets in 1998.

Energex had made only minimal use of the site since that time.

The spokesman said Energex’s active Toowoomba depot was in Taylor Street.

Mr Tutt said the site offered strong exposure with high traffic flows, with Chalk Drive a major arterial road, and good access to the CBD.

The Chronicle (http://www.thechronicle.com.au/storydisplay.cfm?storyid=3635231&thesection=localnews&thesubsection=&thesecondsubsection=)

[Danubis]

Cancer trips soon a thing of the past

14.05.2005


IT WAS a breast lump the size of a grain of salt that sent Cheryl Warby on a journey through surgery and chemotherapy, then countless daily trips to Brisbane for radiotherapy treatment.
But with the announcement that Queensland’s first inland government-funded radiation oncology unit will be established at St Andrew’s Toowoomba Hospital, Ms Warby says she’s pleased thousands of patients will be spared the arduous trek.

The $8.6 million facility, made possible through federal funds, is expected to be completed and running by March 2007, two years after it was first expected to be opened, and will treat up to 900 patients each year.

"St Andrew’s will be the centre for cancer care on the Darling Downs," hospital CEO Ray Fairweather said.

The unit will support patients from the Downs as well as from Ipswich, the Burnett, Lockyer, south-west Queensland and regions of northern New South Wales.

Ms Warby, who completed seven weeks of radiotherapy at Brisbane’s Mater Hospital this week, said receiving treatment in "your own back yard" would ease the emotional and physical strain on cancer patients.

"I think it is wonderful that people will be able to complete their treatment and be in their home town," she said.

The Chronicle (http://www.thechronicle.com.au/storydisplay.cfm?storyid=3635755&thesection=localnews&thesubsection=&thesecondsubsection=)

[Joe]

The building that was cancelled was sunset plaza ..

think it was 22 stories and 78 m

[Danubis]

dont happen to have a diagram do you :)

[Joe]

will have a look i know that there is one here somewhere

[Joe]

http://img219.echo.cx/img219/4466/sunsetplaza19992000125co.gif (http://www.imageshack.us)

one of my first diagrams , quality not so good.

[Joe]

there is actually 11 buildings over 30m

original list by danubis

78m - Sunset Plaza - NEVER BUILT - 1999
49m - Cotesloe Cresent - Built - 2001
46m - Condamine Centre - Built - 1989
45m - Heritage Plaza - Built - 1989
44m - The Parks - Built - 1990
41m - Garden City Tower - Approved - 2006
40m - Tmba Base Hospital - Built - 1997
38m - Argyle on Kitchener (Tower 2) - Proposed - 2006
37m - Trinity Towers - Approved - 2006
36m - Argyle on Kitchener (Tower 1) - Proposed - 2006
33m - The Grosvenor - Built - 2004
31m - Z Block USQ - Built - 2001

[Joe]

http://img213.echo.cx/img213/9569/transparentsunsetplaza121pb.gif

transparent version

[Oriolus]

Wouldn't Sunset Plaza have been great for Toowoomba!! Would have been 2m taller than Holiday Inn in Townsville and hence the tallest building outside "metro Brisbane" if you like. It was an office tower right? Any renders?

Check out this thread on old OzScrapers
http://www.hoogbouw.nl/OZforum/cgi-bin/topic.cgi?forum=2&topic=343
Were those cancelled projects legit?-
Berghoffer Centre 20s/71m
Toowoomba Convention Centre 130m
They were supposedly on SSP as proposed (but not anymore). Must have been a joke or a mistake heh??

[Joe]

yeah the bergohoffer center or mcafferties tower where proposed at 71m for that site as well.

[Joe]

The site owner was looking for some investment. Toowoomba Convention Centre 130m is a fantasy thou.

[Joe]

http://img278.echo.cx/img278/4395/toowoombabackingmay253rk.jpg

A quick update to the toowoomba skyline

[Danubis]

very good joe! pity about sunset...

has any construction begun on trinity or the margaret street one?

[Joe]

Trilogy has just started construction. Will get some pics when i am in town next

[Joe]

The argyle on kitchener on has increased in size to 10 stories and 9 stories repectfully

[Danubis]

YAY!! so about 41m and 39m respectfully!! that extra level should make all the difference me thinks!!! good news.

[Joe]

yes very good news ... hopefully it becomes approved very quickly. Before the some what conservative toowoomba people block it

[Joe]

An artists impression of Argyle on Kitchener , from The Toowoomba Cronicle on Wednesday 8th of June .




http://img62.echo.cx/img62/1264/aonktoowoombacron09060520ex.th.jpg

[Joe]

A smaller pic hehe

http://img162.echo.cx/img162/8389/aonktoowoombacron09060526000wo.jpg

[Danubis]

CITY FACES TOWERING ISSUES
07.06.2005



By Susan Searle susans@thechronicle.com.au

A $30 million, eight-storey commercial/residential development, opposite City Hall, faces almost certain approval by Toowoomba City Council today.

The plan is for shop and office space, 150-seat cafe and restaurant, 35 serviced four-star motel apartments, 28 multiple dwellings, manager’s unit and basement parking.

The complex has a swimming pool, spa, sauna and gymnasium as well as conference facilities.

Already 33 units have reportedly been sold off the Trilogy Apartments plan in the two weeks since its release.

The prospectus reveals prices started at $290,000 with a September 2006 envisaged completion date.

The vacant 2413sqm of land, and vacant commercial building, has a 30-metre frontage to Ruthven Street and 30-metre frontage on Annand Street, and is south of the Quality Burke and Wills Motel.

Council’s senior planning officer, Paula Newman, will air concerns that the proposal does not completely satisfy the city’s planning scheme codes, but conditions can be imposed to meet compliance.

Ms Newman recommends approval subject to streetscape appearance, accessibility to car parking spaces, solar access and private open space for multiple dwelling units.

Councillors will vote today.

[Danubis]

Tower builder stays upbeat
08.06.2005


By Susan Searle susans@thechronicle.com.au

A BRISBANE developer remains confident he can meet most councillors’ concerns and still secure approval for his two-tower, 10-storey development, Argyle on Kitchener.

Andrew St Baker, of ERM Projects Pty Ltd, toyed with reconfigurations en route back to Brisbane after yesterday’s Committee of Council meeting.

"There is no way we can deliver this level of quality and amenity (on a par with any capital city) on this signature site without the proposed apartment and height yield," he said.

Councillors’ concerns included height, given the town plan’s eight-storey preference for that area, as well as site cover and landscaping.

They heard architects’ impressions featuring mature trees could not be fulfilled since trees would not survive in the restricted on-street area.

An excited Planning Committee chair Michele Alroe was confident the issues could be resolved.

"This is the sort of development we want to see," she said.

Lyle Shelton, Graham Barron and Keith Beer agreed Toowoomba had "come of age as a city". Mr St Baker will seek a deferral of the proposed preliminary approval so modified plans reducing the site cover and increasing the landscaping at ground level can be prepared.

[Joe]

http://img88.echo.cx/img88/5532/toowoombabackingjune1033sf.jpg

[Danubis]

nice little skyline growing !! lovely.

[Oriolus]

Councillors’ concerns included height, given the town plan’s eight-storey preference for that area, as well as site cover and landscaping.
What are the height limits in Toowoomba? The above suggests they vary but what's the maximum. Anyone have a map?

[Joe]

10 storeys was the max last year but this year they have approved Garden City Tower which is 11 storeys. Will try and find a map

[Danubis]

All praise $13 million project
29.06.2005


EVEN the lone opponent to a $13 million development, which includes the restoration of the old Church Of Christ church, last night agreed it was a good outcome.
The F.K. Gardner & Sons plan has the church in the foreground and a nine-storey residential, commercial and retail develop- ment at the rear.

Cr Sue Englart had resisted plans to penetrate the eastern wall of the building to allow access to a planned restaurant.

Last night Toowoomba City Council unanimously supported the revised plans for the project which incorporated an extra 15 car parks.

[Danubis]

Height still a sticking point in multi-storey units plan

19.07.2005


By Susan Searle susans@thechronicle.com.au AN AMENDED plan for multi-storey unit development Argyle on Kitchener, to be considered by Toowoomba City Council today, will satisfy most concerns.
However, Brisbane developers ERM Projects will persist in seeking to exceed the eight-storey height stipulated.

An application for two 10storey towers, on two allotments on the corner of Kitchener and Phillip streets, was considered by council last month.

Concerns about the height, site cover and landscaping were raised and the project was withdrawn before to the ordinary council meeting.

The revised plans provide for one tower, once of nine storeys, to be of eight storeys with a mezzanine level; and the other tower, once of 10 storeys, to be of nine storeys plus a mezzanine and rooftop facilities.
The site cover is now 44% after initially being 72%.

Building setbacks along Kitchener and Phillip streets have been increased to allow for more landscaping.

The initial plan offered 29 three-and four-bedroom units. This has been reduced to 27 three-bedroom units.

Council officers today will tell councillors that apart from the proposed height of the two buildings, the amended proposal generally satisfies the requirements of the planning scheme.

"Approval is recommended subject to a condition that the height of the buildings is no greater than eight storeys," the officers’ report states.

The Chronicle (http://www.thechronicle.com.au/storydisplay.cfm?storyid=3644455&thesection=localnews&thesubsection=&thesecondsubsection=)

[Joe]

heard that the developer is still trying for the 10 storey tower thou with foyer making it 40+m .... we need it... going to get some shots of trilogy tower tommorrow.... last i saw was a trench digger and another piece of machinery on site

[Danubis]

does every city in queensland have a project titled *trilogy* lol... wish people could think of more original names. something elvish would suffice.

[Malt]

Lothlorien?

[Danubis]

indeed.