who will be south africa's president when cape town host the 2020 olympics?

julius malema

^^

I really highly doubt it. And if that were to be the case, we'd see an ANC split larger than the COPE split. There's massive divisions in the ANC Youth League. Thanks to him, conferences have had to be cancelled due to tensions between rival factions of the ANC Youth League.

Firstly I don't think Capetown will host the 2020 Olympics, but Durban if it is a South African city. And secondly if by any chance Malema becomes South Africas next president, certainly there will be no Olympics Games in South Africa.

I dont think it will be Malema, I think, if its possible, Zuma will be re-elected for a second term WHEN Cape Town host the Olympics.

People said that if he was pres in 2010, SA would not hold the SWC...I think events like these are bigger than the president of any country.

Kgalema Motlanthe

Tokyo Sexwale

Lindiwe Sisulu

Trevor Manual

anc knows it would be a gamble to put Malema in that sit

^^ Any of the above I'd be comfortable with. Kgalema wasn't half bad in his short time as pressie.

Lets have a strong female candidate?

Manuel

Lets have a strong female candidate?

I personaly dont agree... A woman President... :ohno:

this malema guy is an idiot...u dont need this clown running the office.

i like manuel.

not manuel

^^ why not?

Manuel all the way! Educated, knowledgeable, well known, quite respected etc etc etc

Zuma has not been near as bad as what we all or at least I thought. I wound not mind if he got a second term. Kgalema is a good Deputy and should get a second term being just that.

I dont know any of these people lol. Why wouldn't Zuma be re-elected? Or Helen Zille can do a miracle run.

Kgalema Motlanthe

Tokyo Sexwale

Lindiwe Sisulu

Trevor Manual

anc knows it would be a gamble to put Malema in that sit

Not army lady. :ohno:

The other 3 I agree with. Also, what about Cyril Ramaphosa, the man that was almost our first deputy president?

but seriously SA needs some really smart, wise and intelligent president. Someone who will engineer radically productive policies and lead with confidence. Zuma, Motlante, Tokyo are all probably just getting the presidency by inheritance. If only some younger 40 year old, highly educated man or woman would run for ANC presidency and hence SA presidency it would be great for everyone. Malema's political career is probably nearing the end, especially with this new SARS controversy. As Tutu said, SA deserves better than what it is getting right now.

I like zuma but hopee the next prez is young and smart, i highly doubt hellen zille Will be prez anytime soon!

still curious to see the great annman's point of view....

not manuel

cos he supports the All Blacks

Others like Tokyo wont cos they are capitalists at heart and are making too much money to do a civil service

Sam Shilowa.....


voters need a new system to elect by...current system keeps ANC in power for long long time.

Helen Zille. Let her work her Cape magic on the entire South Africa :yes:

Helen Zille, unfortunately, will never be President. Both because a straight-out national Democratic Alliance victory isn't likely until the end of the decade and, yes, because South Africa most likely will never have another white head of state ever again and if that does happen, it's generations away from happening.

still annman is ignoring this thread...

but seriously SA needs some really smart, wise and intelligent president. Someone who will engineer radically productive policies and lead with confidence. Zuma, Motlante, Tokyo are all probably just getting the presidency by inheritance. If only some younger 40 year old, highly educated man or woman would run for ANC presidency and hence SA presidency it would be great for everyone. Malema's political career is probably nearing the end, especially with this new SARS controversy. As Tutu said, SA deserves better than what it is getting right now. we had a president like that i think his name was thabo :lol:

^^ Geez! Can't visit every single thread in existence. :)

Helen Zille will not become president, because by the time South Africa's electorate wakes up to non-racial politics, she will already be too old. I predict the ANC will lose the majority in approximately two more elections, probably 2024, maybe 2019. Although, I think it will take a major opposition alliance to do it (including the DA) or it will come at the ANC's own hands, with splitting ideologies ripping the ANC and TriParty Alliance apart from within.

The next president will more than likely still be Zuma. Although he has gone through some rough patches, he's still seen in the ANC ranks as the least divisive figure within the party. He's of a leftist background with the rightist understanding.

Manuel won't happen soon due to his "shading." Sad, but true. He is a well respected and intelligent man, but the leftist factions will not allow it; due to his financial and business background, he's perceived as being 'capitalist friendly.'

Tokyo Sexwale and Kgalema Mothanthle are more likely, however both are also looked upon with minor suspicion from the leftists, as Tokyo has a business background and Kgalema was a fence-sitter in the Mbeki quagmire.

Malema will never be president. He is probably the most divisive figure in the ANC's upper ranks and the ANC-NEC will never allow someone like him to obtain that much power, because then he will be the reason the TriParty Alliance is destroyed and the ANC will inevitably loose the majority.

;)

hahaha

Helen Zille, unfortunately, will never be President. Both because a straight-out national Democratic Alliance victory isn't likely until the end of the decade and, yes, because South Africa most likely will never have another white head of state ever again and if that does happen, it's generations away from happening.

never say never-there was a time we thought there would never be a black man in power-Mandela , Obama etc

there was also a time when we thought we never host a worldcup malema is going to be key in deciding who is the next president :imo....after zuma's next term

never say never-there was a time we thought there would never be a black man in power-Mandela , Obama etc


it took a long time b4 America even thought a black man can be prez. its the reverse 4 sa. its early to think a white prez 4 sa. ..but u never know...maybe an Indian prez 4 sa ...how about that or coloured

Kgalema Motlanthe

Tokyo Sexwale

Lindiwe Sisulu

Trevor Manual

anc knows it would be a gamble to put Malema in that sit

Any of those four would be quite competent. Trevor Manuel would be the best of the four. Malema couldn't run a damned lemonade stand, forget a nation of 50 million people. Zille would be very good, but she'll never get there if for no other reason than the fact that she is white. The same problem hurts Manuel. (Sad, but true.) Malema I honestly hope keeps shooting his mouth off, because if he does he'll break the TriParty alliance, and force the ANC to have to do their jobs well, lest the other triparty alliance - COPE, DA and ID - start being able to take power from them.

Whoever wins really needs to deal with the crime in South Africa. I am Jamaican and we have crime but it is very localized to 4 areas. While South Africa is all over. Just look at these stats. http://www.saps.gov.za/statistics/reports/crimestats/2009/categories/murder.pdf :ohno:

I think many people are overrating Malema's influence and stature. While there are vehement supporters of him, it's only limited to a bloc of the ANC. The bloc is those who feel that there are disillusioned with the progress of black socioeconomic "liberation" and feel as if Malema is the voice of the voiceless. But there is another bloc of the ANC that feel that Malema is simply a disaster and bad for the ANC itself. As the black middle class inevitably grows even larger, Malema grows more irrelevant within the ANC. In addition to that, people who already don't vote ANC will make their voice of opposition heard too. Personally, I wouldn't worry about a President Malema.

^^ I agree with you. I was worried about Malema earlier this year, however his influence has been drastically reduced. Originally he was seen within the ANC ranks as a firebrand youth leader, but once he stepped on the toes of the ANC top brass, defied ANC protocol and embarrassed the ANC internationally, he was cut down to the smaller figure we see today.

He simply overstepped the bounds and became a pariah within his own party ranks. Even the ANCYL is no longer united around his presidency of the organisation.

Unless he has major leadership skills second to none, I think the threat of Malema is over. The ANC knows he's too militant for a maturing democracy like South Africa. The longer South Africa moves along the path away from segregation and disenfranchisement, the less a militant voices like his strikes a cord with the electorate.

The World Cup was also a terrible blow to his style of leadership. South Africans are more united than ever. Malema's brand of blaming and slamming other South Africans does not sit well with a population that feels more united, more proud and more cohesive in their goal to build SA together.

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Unless he has major leadership skills second to none, I think the threat of Malema is over. .

I don't want to step on anyone's toes here so please just take the statement as it comes--but never underestimate the power of the people-I mean the real people. Not the middle class, not the upper class but the real people. As long as the vast majority of people have a public figure they believe in and for lack of education or facts or whatever continue to believe his words, you will have someone who can climb his way to the top. The French revolution was a case in point where the Ancien Regime thought they understood the masses.When people see that you have more than they have and a public figure plays on that regardless of wether he's driving a merc, you've got a support base.
Perhaps not Malema, but the evil will find a strong host to feed on again---lol voldemort will arise again

a dictator's greatest weapon is the uneducated masses. You don't need reason when you have empty promises

Cyril or Tokyo

Malema is even scared to be an MP. He's good in barking at the backyard. More like Entertainment minister if there would be such. He would be good on it.

^^ Minister of Entertainment! :hilarious

I'll be honest, if Malema becomes President, he'll have deserved and I'll support him. He would have had to do some serious growing up and mitigating of his radicalism, plus convincing people of his change. It'd probably be one of the greatest political redemption stories, to be honest.

I'll be honest, if Malema becomes President, he'll have deserved and I'll support him.

:lol::lol: Africa: one step forward and three steps backward.