Projects in Vilnius

[Edd]

Lithuanian forum miestai.mip.lt is dead so I decided to create a new thread about projects in Vilnius here. Btw @Mantaz: Will miestai.mip.lt ever be "alive" again?
This thread is dedicated to all sort of projects and news from Vilnius a bit of OT is allowed here too ;).

In the first post I'll give a list of mostly already known projects (atleast for the members of our Lithuanian forum).

High-rise buildings (which are U/C or quite certainly will be U/C):

1-2. Two 23 floor residentials near press high-rise.

3. 17 floor building (part of "The Gates" project):
http://img51.photobucket.com/albums/v156/Edd_host/gates.gif

4. Victoria tower 16-story 76.3-m high in Bussiness Triangle district:
http://www.constructus.lt/pic/Header%20LT/mg-en.jpg

5-6. Two 16 floor residentials
http://img51.photobucket.com/albums/v156/Edd_host/seskine.jpg

7-8. Two 16-floor residential buildings
http://www.alsva.lt/uploads/pic/alsva_pradinis.gif

9. 16 floor residential building (identical building to this one is already finished):
http://www.mastas.lt/images/news/pictures/1969s.jpg

10-11. Complex of two 16 floor buildings and eight 11 floor buildings:
(btw in their web site it was written about this project: "original architecture" - funny isn't it :D)
http://www.big.lt/images/image1.jpg

12. 16 floor residential:
http://www.skala.lt/images/vaizd1.jpg

13. 14 floor building (part of "The Gates" project)
http://img51.photobucket.com/albums/v156/Edd_host/gates.gif

14. SBA office building 12 (?) floors
http://system.pii.lt/db_index/index_lt.jpg

15. 12 floor office building in Bussiness Triangle district (six floors will be added to already existing building). I don't
know when this project will be realised so it does not actually fall in the category of buildings which "quite certainly will be soon U/C".
http://img51.photobucket.com/albums/v156/Edd_host/hanner.jpg

16. complex of 12 floor buildings
http://www.mabilta.lt/ukmerges/img/d_namas.jpg

Other buildings:

"Grand Duke Palace" (stupid name) - the old building will be extended and renovated. It is already u/r. There are more
buildings similar to this one renovated in Vilnius. Rendering:
http://img51.photobucket.com/albums/v156/Edd_host/vizualizacija.jpg

New casino in Vilnius? (I just found some renderings on the net but I don't know anythig about it):
http://img51.photobucket.com/albums/v156/Edd_host/vilnius.jpg

http://img51.photobucket.com/albums/v156/Edd_host/vilnius1.jpg

http://img51.photobucket.com/albums/v156/Edd_host/vilnius2.jpg

http://img51.photobucket.com/albums/v156/Edd_host/vilnius3.jpg

10 floor office building:
http://oh.ober-haus.com/Photos/04c26461-bb32-4258-8672-517976e4e361/w315/OH21025-1.jpg

And there are loads of other projects - mostly residential buildings or residential-office buildings and some small office buildings like this one:
http://oh.ober-haus.com/Photos/04c26461-bb32-4258-8672-517976e4e361/w315/OH26112-1.jpg

[blimey]

We should stick this thread!
Thanks Edd. :)

[boogy]

hmm well some of these projects are really nothing special...
but a few projects made me angry!!!!
http://www.big.lt/images/image1.jpg
http://www.mabilta.lt/ukmerges/img/d_namas.jpg
http://www.mastas.lt/images/news/pictures/1969s.jpg
didn't they know that vilnius already has way too many commie-blocks
they should take away forbid such architects to design buildings... but probably building company is behind this all they care for is to get money, i just hope that one day this huge demand of housing will be gone and people will have a chance to choose between crap and real architecture.

but i still think very highly of vilnius gate project, sba tower and victoria tower (wich will be completed really soon)

[ch1le]

actually im happy that your personal forum is down, now we other forumers are privileged to know about other Vilnius projects too!!

Riga, Vilnius, Tallinn development threads all should be stickied!

[Mantas]

Yeah, I wonder what is happening with that www.mip.lt server, but as I mentioned few times before, I ordered a new paid server and the forum will be restored probably this week :) Moreover, I'm now working on a portal which would represent all Lithuanian towns and cities :D

Btw, that Casino is the same already finished Grand Casino near the Gedimino avenue ;)

[intervention]

I made this thread a sticky for those interested :)

[Mantas]

Thanks drowned.world :)

[Gatis]

Is there a possibility to make Riga and Tallinn threads sticky as well?

[Oberleutnant]

Is there a possibility to make Riga and Tallinn threads sticky as well?

Agreed, that would be fair.

[Edd]

Thanks dw, for making it sticky :). I agree - Riga and Tallinn threads should be sticked too. But maybe there will be too many sticked threads? (five). If yes, then this thread should be unsticked too - otherwise as Ober said it wouldn't be fair.

@Mantaz: We'll be waiting ;).

[Edd]

Part of Gediminas avenue is already reconstructed - but only small part of it. Today reconstruction works of other 260 m. long part starts. The reconstruction of this part will end in 2004.12.10. There will be 42 trees planted (the old ones are already gone), lighting, clocks, trash bins, benches will be the same as the ones in reconstructed part of Gediminas avenue. This reconstruction is a part of the third reconstruction stage. There will be five reconstruction stages:
http://www.vilnius.lt/I/lukiskiu/ca_schema.jpg

"etapas" means stage.

1-st stage was the reconstruction of Cathedral square and the 2-nd stage - the reconstruction of the first part of Gediminas avenue.
The most interesting I think will be the 4-th stage (time period: 2005-2006). In this stage big square - "Lukiškių" square will be reconstructed.
Lukiškių square is inside that red area:
http://www.vilnius.lt/I/lukiskiu/la_mieste_schema.jpg

[Renx]

Nice projects!:) Well, most of them:D, why do they have to build new commieblocks?

The thing is, about other threads becoming sticky, that here are far more Lithuanians than Latvians and Estonians, plus Vilnius has more projects....the threads about Tallinn and Riga can't possibly generate as much interest and updates as the ones about Vilnius.:tongue3:

[Edd]

@Renx: You are wrong - most of Lithuanians are gone - it's summer afterall ;). Now I think that there are more active members from Tallinn than from Vilnius and I also think that Tallinn development thread is and will be much more active than this one - so it should be made sticky for sure. I stay with my previous opinion - all three threads should be sticked or all three threads should be unsticked :).

[Gatis]

May be the approach could be like this: make another subchapter - "City updates" where you can go and see, how are the cities in this region doing.
Btw. I am thinking abouth long-thread "Latvia outside Riga" - it could be interesting too.

[Vaidas]

One more new project: a 10 or 12 storey office building will be built in the Akropolis shopping and entertainment complex. Most of the offices will be accomodated by VP Market, but some wil be for rent.

http://img50.photobucket.com/albums/v152/v4idas/akropolis.jpg

The expansion of the complex should be finished by the end of November.

[Gatis]

Yes, and regarding Gediminas prospect - sure it will be the grand prospect of Baltics. Other cities (except Kaunas) will not have such glorious prospect. Brivibas Street in Riga is a bit too trafficky, although it is very nice too. Kr. Barona street in Riga may become wonderful if the city would be wise enough to make it into something like Gediminas prospect.

[blimey]

Gatis> traffic in Gedimino is allowed so its just another street. Nothing special.

[Edd]

@Gatis: I agree - the best idea is to make a "City updates" subsection.
@Vaidas: This year by the end of November?? Hm the building process seems to be quite fast :).
@Blimey: "just another street"? It can't be compared to any other street in Vilnius I think :). From 6 oclock the traffic is not allowed - but I am also disapointed that it isn't fully pedestrian street :(.

[blimey]

@EDD:Gedimino is nothing more than a clean beautiful street. Thre's no streets like that in the Baltics but there's thosuands of them in Paris, London, etc.
The only way to make something special out of that street is to ban traffic completely.

[ch1le]

tallinn might get such a street,(although smaller! - look at develop. thread now and then)

[sdes]

Is there a possibility to make Riga and Tallinn threads sticky as well?
And Finnish highrise projects thread too :)

[Edd]

Artificial island and bay are planned. The bay is planned near the "gates of Vilnius" where also "culture complex" is planned (which includes concert, theatre halls, galleries, etc.). Some renderings:
http://img41.exs.cx/img41/8290/above.gif

http://img25.exs.cx/img25/3851/Image125.jpg

http://img25.exs.cx/img25/2125/Image126.jpg

http://img26.exs.cx/img26/6661/Image162.jpg

http://img45.exs.cx/img45/757/Image60.jpg

http://img41.exs.cx/img41/1204/Image17.jpg

http://img31.exs.cx/img31/4630/Image138.jpg

http://img29.exs.cx/img29/7633/Image161.jpg

http://img26.exs.cx/img26/899/Image163.jpg

http://img22.exs.cx/img22/2491/Image192.jpg

http://img25.exs.cx/img25/3452/Image128.jpg

[ch1le]

wow /\ great news... water is always good!

[Renx]

That's unimaginably cool!:cool::eek2:
Wonder when will Tallinn stop whining and start doing something...

[sdes]

Wow. Looks very cool :master:

[Edd]

@Renx: Hold on and stop beating the authorities of Tallinn ;). This is only a project and in the past there were more interesting projects which were not realised - so there is a posibility that it will not be realised at all. Although I'm quite certain that atleast some parts of this project will be realised :).

[Gatis]

These renderings are in very early stage. And interesting :)
That bulb-like concert hall is interesting, although I am not that sure how it fits in surroundings. Flying saucer above the bridge looks kitshy. If they decide to go for it - here is needed very good designer to make it success, otherwise it will look like cheap "show-off".

[Oberleutnant]

And Finnish highrise projects thread too :)

If you are referring to my Finnish project thread, then I can only echo what you said. :) However, if drowned.world or any other mod intends to heed your advice, please wait till I can get its successor thread done (it's already under works).


I wish I'd be able to comment the projects and ozelis' trip now, but I don't have time for that. Gotta run now! (I'll be disconnected from the 'net for most part of this week).

[Edd]

@Gatis: "bulb-like" building is not a concert hall (actually I don't know what that building is for). "Culture complex" building will be much bigger and it is planned near artificial bay - it is not shown in the renderings which I posted. And I think that the main idea of these renderings is only to show how that area could be developed - but not the designs of individual buildings.

[John]

I see some new projects were revealed while I was away :)

what about that office block at "Akropolis", was there any article or smth?


and this one, I actually don't like the appearance of those "towers" (at least in the model) but this is quite a rare and distinctive style known as brutalist, there are no many buildings of this style around and actually I think it will be intresting to see the final result, if the good colors will be chosen they might look quite interesting :)
http://www.mabilta.lt/ukmerges/img/d_namas.jpg

[blimey]

Wb John :)

How was your trip?
WHen can we expect pictures?

[John]

Wb John :)

How was your trip?
WHen can we expect pictures?

my trip was not yet, perhaps I'll go to Riga on Sunday for a couple of days, and for now there's nothing interesting, I even didn't take any pics because the places sucked (Siauliai and Palanga) ;)

[Vaidas]

what about that office block at "Akropolis", was there any article or smth?


Actually there was an article in "Būstas", but nothing really new was written - it's a waste of time even reading it, never mind scanning it.

[Edd]

One 10 floor building near NCC (or actually we can say "in NCC") will be reconstructed and expanded. It'll have 12 floors - so it'll be a "high-rise" ;).

Now I'll post an article in LT language.

Straipsnyje yra info ir apie vietoj baseino statoma pastata. Gal kas nors mate jo renderinga? Is aprasymo sunku spresti ar tai bus "visiskas komiblokas" :) ar ne. Taigi straipsnis:

Prabangių apartamentų gyventojai dairysis į Gedimino pilį
Aušra Pocienė
„Lietuvos ryto“ korespondentė

Krantinėje užvirs statybos

Šią vasarą Vilniuje statybų epicentras iš Konstitucijos prospekto persikels į Neries krantinę kitoje Žaliojo tilto pusėje.

Čia įkandin gyvenamųjų namų, kylančių vietoj buvusio pramogų komplekso „Delfinas“, prasidės buvusio Nidos banko rekonstrukcija, o vietoj nugriauto sporto draugijos „Žalgiris“ baseino bus statomas Karaliaus Mindaugo komercinis ir apartamentų centras.

„Invaldos“ įmonių grupė, įsigijusi buvusį Nidos banko pastatą, pavers jį trijų korpusų komercinių patalpų, apartamentų ir butų kompleksu.

Paskatinti pirmojo savo gyvenamosios statybos projekto, įgyvendinamo vietoj buvusio „Delfino“, sėkmės investuotojai tikisi, jog dar geresnėje vietoje statomi butai ir prabangūs apartamentai bus ne mažiau paklausūs.

Už butus su įspūdinga Senamiesčio panorama pro langus tuomet žmonės mokėjo po pusę milijono litų, o dauguma butų buvo nupirkti net nepradėjus statybų.

Dabar planuojama, kad naujųjų apartamentų ir butų kainos turėtų siekti 3000-8000 litų už kvadratinį metrą.

Projektai – iš vienų rankų

Naują gyvenamųjų namų kompleksą, kaip ir netoliese iškilsiantį Karaliaus Mindaugo komercinį bei apartamentų centrą, projektavo Kęstučio Pempės vadovaujami Vilniaus architektūros studijos architektai.

Šią Neries krantinės dalį galima vadinti Vilniaus architektūros studijos vizitine kortele – K.Pempės grupė buvo „Delfino“ projekto ir bendrovės „Lietuvos energija“ pastato rekonstrukcijos autoriai.

Dabar Vilniaus architektūros studijos architektai Daiva Pauliukonienė, Algis Pliučas, Martynas Nagelė bei Večiaslavas Malenka baigia rengti buvusio Nidos banko pastato rekonstrukcijos projektą.

Dešimties aukštų Nidos banko pastatas po rekonstrukcijos pakils dviem aukštais ir iš šonų apaugs į upę orientuotu 3-5 aukštų korpusu ir ties A.Juozapavičiaus gatve iškilsiančiu devynių aukštų pastatu.

Žemiausias ir arčiausiai upės statomas pastatas išsiskirs rudų klinkerio plytų apdaila.

Kitų dviejų korpusų fasaduose dominuos stiklas ir melsvos apdailos plokštės.

Butus ir nuomos, ir parduos

Naujame komplekse bus įrengta 180 įvairaus dydžio butų: nuo nedidelių 40-50 iki 100-150 kvadratinių metrų su atviromis terasomis bei žiemos sodais viršutiniuose pastatų aukštuose.

Dalį apartamentų numatoma nuomoti, dalį – parduoti.

Centrinio korpuso pirmajame aukšte bus nuomojamos komercinės patalpos.

Komplekso vidiniame kieme suplanuoti vaikų žaidimų ir sporto aikštynai, žaliosios rekreacinės zonos, po kiemu cokolinėje pastatų dalyje – dviejų aukštų automobilių garažas.

Bendrasis naujojo komplekso plotas sieks apie 15 tūkst. kvadratinių metrų.

Investuoti į šį projektą numatoma apie 60 mln. litų.

Įrengs apartamentų viešbutį

Šios vasaros viduryje vietoj nugriauto baseino bendrovė Vilniaus „Žalgirio“ dengtas plaukimo baseinas pradės Karaliaus Mindaugo komercinio bei apartamentų centro statybą.

Planuojama, jog čia veiks prabangių apartamentų viešbutis.

Bet Vilniaus „Žalgirio“ dengto plaukimo baseino direktoriaus pavaduotojas Kazimieras Musteikis nepaneigė, jog apartamentai gali būti ir pardavinėjami.

Naująjį pastatą projektavo architektai K.Pempė, Lijana Jančytė ir Romualdas Kirdulis.

Pasagą primenančio, nuo keturių iki šešių aukštų aukštėjančio pastato formą lėmė susikertančių gatvių struktūra.

Pastatas turės ir vidinį kiemą, o ateityje numatoma pristatyti ir stačiakampio formos dalį, skirtą biurams.

Bendrasis naujojo komplekso plotas – apie 12 tūkstančių kvadratinių metrų.

Penktas fasadas – stogas

„Paprastai statiniai turi keturis fasadus, o šis kompleksas turės dar ir penktą – stogą. Jis gerai matomas nuo Gedimino pilies ir aplinkinių kalvų, todėl terasomis upės link besileidžiantis stogas visas bus eksploatuojamas.

Ten bus įrengtos apartamentuose gyvenančių žmonių terasos, apžvalgos aikštelės, želdinių oazės“, – pasakojo vienas projekto autorių R.Kirdulis.

Visai šalia Senamiesčio statomam pastatui parinktos artimos apdailos medžiagos – keraminės plokštės, medžio apdaila. Stiklo stengtasi naudoti kuo mažiau.

Pirmajame pastato aukšte numatomos komercinės ir visuomeninės paskirties patalpos. Ten galėtų įsikurti banko skyrius, sporto klubas, nedidelės prabangios parduotuvės.

Nuo antro iki šešto aukšto bus apartamentai, kurių dydis svyruos nuo 70 iki 190 ir daugiau kvadratinių metrų. Po pastatu bus įrengtas dviejų aukštų garažas.

Investicijos į šią statybą sieks apie 20 milijonų litų. Statybą numatoma baigti ateinančių metų rudenį.

[Mantas]

Thanks for the article :) It's really hard to imagine that building in place of Zalgiris swimming pool, but it can be something similar to Vyrokas apartments, but way lower, of course ;)

And which one is that 10floorer to be recosntructed? It's possibly one of these two commie office buildings, isn't it? Then good news :D

[Edd]

@Mantaz: I don't know really but there are no other 10 floor buildings around there so the bank of Nida should be one of these commie office buildings :).

[John]

I think it's gonna be this one, that's very good news! :)
there are two more similar looking buildings nearby which also need reconstruction - one of 12 floors and another 8 floorer
http://www.paveldas.vilnius.lt/Photo/21864/9-3-2.jpg

[Mantas]

Btw, welcome back John :D It's probably really one of these buildings :banana:

[John]

some additional info about UAB Mabilta complex at A2 highway near Baltpark Hotel

the complex will be made of 8 residential buildings (five 12 storey buildings, one 10 storey building and two 9 storey buildings) with all needed infrastructure. In total 724 apartments
http://www.mabilta.lt/ukmerges/img/d_namas.jpg

plan
http://www.mabilta.lt/ukmerges/img/namu_isdestymas.jpg

[Dr.Jackal]

Well,some news-in Vilnius,Naujamiestis district,near "Vingis" cinema,a construction of 22-or 23-floor office tower has begun:)

[singing tram]

Well,some news-in Vilnius,Naujamiestis district,near "Vingis" cinema,a construction of 22-or 23-floor office tower has begun:)

:eek2: :eek2: :eek2:

What a conspiracy! Unknown tower??? Does anybody have more info?

[Dr.Jackal]

:eek2: :eek2: :eek2:

What a conspiracy! Unknown tower??? Does anybody have more info?
This project was mentioned here abuot a few mounths ago,but there was no info since.

[Mantas]

Well,some news-in Vilnius,Naujamiestis district,near "Vingis" cinema,a construction of 22-or 23-floor office tower has begun:)
Really, where do you know that from? :) Great news :banana:

[Vaidas]

That is indeed good news! I think that location is very good for such buildings. :okay:

[Edd]

Great news! I liked that design (if it was not changed since John showed it). Later I'll try to find rendering of that tower.

[John]

This is f..ing great! :banana:

could it be this tower? or at least in this location? :?
http://www.inre.lt/g_img/past2.jpg

http://www.inre.lt/g_img/past1.jpg

[Mantas]

That's really nice :yes:

[Edd]

@John: I was thinking about that one too.

(Beje, puslapyje parasyta tik: "Daugiaaukštis pastatas. Projektiniai pasiūlymai", tai galbut ir ne sitas).

[blimey]

Wow. Kick-ass.

[Edd]

New hotel in Vilnius?

Source: www.aaa.lt

"We seek an Operator and/or Investor for our property that we shall develop into a new hotel in Vilnius, Lithuania.
We recently purchased a property at Universiteto 14/2 in Vilnius, that we shall renovate for commercial and hotel use. The property is located near government offices, banks, private enterprises, foreign embassies. "

Picture:
http://www.aaa.lt/nimages/i2.jpg

[Mantas]

At last they did start doing something with this one :okay:

[Monkey]

Thank you for the good news, Eddai! :banana:

That building is just sooo beautiful! :) John and I passed it repeatedly during our peregrinations of Vilnius and saw it from afar. He told me a hotel project of the Kempinski chain had fallen through, and we both agreed that it would be wonderful to have this grand building rehabilitated. So I'm hoping it really will happen this time around. :angel1:

And they're right: the location is just splendid! :okay:

[Gatis]

Highrise looks very fine. :)

[Dr.Jackal]

This is f..ing great! :banana:

could it be this tower? or at least in this location? :?
http://www.inre.lt/g_img/past2.jpg

http://www.inre.lt/g_img/past1.jpg

Yes,you can just visit this area and ensure by own. Seems,the design haven't been changed:)

[John]

Yup, I'm just back from the place :cheers1:

[Dr.Jackal]

And now,some rumours... One of my friends says,the offices in some proposed >40-storey tower in NCC is under sale already...

[John]

And now,some rumours... One of my friends says,the offices in some proposed >40-storey tower in NCC is under sale already...

you're kidding of course, right?

[ch1le]

/\ Gosh, if thats true... then... EEEEEK!!!!

[sdes]

And now,some rumours... One of my friends says,the offices in some proposed >40-storey tower in NCC is under sale already...
WOW, that sounds too good to be true :)

[Dr.Jackal]

Just rumours...but the source in reliable enough.;)

[singing tram]

Just rumours...but the source in reliable enough.;)

Ooh my... The second wave of scrapers is coming to Vilnius!

[SinCity]

This is f..ing great! :banana:

could it be this tower? or at least in this location? :?
http://www.inre.lt/g_img/past2.jpg

http://www.inre.lt/g_img/past1.jpg

This is a beautiful tower. What are the chances of it being constructed. What is the tallest building in Vilnius?

[Vaidas]

@ SinCity: This tower is under construction already. And the tallest tower is Europa Tower (133m):

http://img50.photobucket.com/albums/v152/v4idas/PICT0361.jpg

[blimey]

@Vaidas: 150m with a spire.
So 150m. :)

[John]

@Vaidas
it's 129m not 133 ;)

@blimey

it's not a spire, it's antenna and its 148m with antenna :)

[blimey]

Ok whatever. 148m. Still.

[ch1le]

theres a difference between spire and antenna :P but its high neverthelesS!

[SinCity]

@ SinCity: This tower is under construction already. And the tallest tower is Europa Tower (133m):

http://img50.photobucket.com/albums/v152/v4idas/PICT0361.jpg

Thanks for the picture. Both towers look great together, looks like the start of a fine skyline. What is the number of skyscrapers in Vilnius and are they close together or far apart. How many more are in the pipeline?

[Mantas]

Thanks for the picture. Both towers look great together, looks like the start of a fine skyline. What is the number of skyscrapers in Vilnius and are they close together or far apart. How many more are in the pipeline?
Well, Vilnius has just started its skyscraper development and there aren't many here :) But the list is the following
1. Europa Tower 129 m (the tallest in the pic)
2. Europa apartments (the U/C tower in the pic) 90 m
3. Reval Lietuva Hotel (the 3rd high-rise in the pic) 85 m
4. The New City Hall 77 m
5. Zirgo apartments 67 m
6. Crowne Plaza Hotel 65 m
7. Didlaukio residential 1 57 m
8. Hanner building 56 m
9. Vyrokas residential 55 m (U/C)
10. BCC 50 m

also U/C
1. Helio tower (have just started) 90 m
2. Victoria Tower 75 m
3. Vilnius gates 68 m (just started)
4. SBA tower 12 fl
5. Delfinas apartments 12 fl

I think that's it ;)

[SinCity]

Thats a good start on towers, so I assume they are all pretty close together?

[Mantas]

Thats a good start on towers, so I assume they are all pretty close together?
Nah, just 5 towers form the main cluster ;)

[SinCity]

Nah, just 5 towers form the main cluster ;)

I like the pic above. The cluster of towers will no doubt form a nucleus for more highrise development in the future. :)

[sOmeOne]

It's good to know that Vilnius keeps building more commieblocks :D
It looks like your plan to burn down a Belorussian trolley didn't work after all, heh?
People just love commiebocks too much to give up on them! All people, except Mantaz and his group.
You know why he is so interested in psychology? That's because he is planning on brainwashing people into beleiveing that they hate commieblocks. But brainwashing can't change how people's hearts feel :love:

You can't stop the commieblock invasion, Mantaz, so stop trying!
Soon every person on this planet will be living in a big concrete commieblock!

Muhahahahahaha!!!!!



You can't fool me! I know everything about your plans!

[Mantas]

It's good to know that Vilnius keeps building more commieblocks :D
It looks like your plan to burn down a Belorussian trolley didn't work after all, heh?
People just love commiebocks too much to give up on them! All people, except Mantaz and his group.
You know why he is so interested in psychology? That's because he is planning on brainwashing people into beleiveing that they hate commieblocks. But brainwashing can't change how people's hearts feel :love:

You can't stop the commieblock invasion, Mantaz, so stop trying!
Soon every person on this planet will be living in a big concrete commieblock!

Muhahahahahaha!!!!!



You can't fool me! I know everything about your plans!
I know what happens when you drink too much coffee. But what did you drink now? :D

Btw, that Belarussian trolley was burn't in Riga ;)

[Monkey]

People just love commiebocks too much to give up on them! All people, except Mantaz and his group.

I beg to differ. :D

[sOmeOne]

I beg to differ. :D
I know you like them, you are just afraid to admit it to yourself ;)

@Mantaz, I just got back from Starbucks when I wrote that :D
Either way, it doesn't matter where the Belorussian trolley was burned - it's all part of your plan >(

[John]

Few fresh photos of 16 storey and 76m high Victoria Tower construction and place where it's built - Business Triangle. In August construction of BCC2 is starting (identical to BCC - the dark blue 13 storey office building), after these two buildings are completed, Business Triangle will be a fully developed and architecturally complete area.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/johngang/Projects/updates/IMG_5747.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/johngang/Projects/updates/IMG_5748.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/johngang/Projects/updates/IMG_5752.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/johngang/IMG_5769.jpg

[Mantas]

Yeah, business triangle looks just great and is going to look better with finished Victoria, BCC2 and the Hanner recosntructed to a 12floorer :yes:

[Vaidas]

In August construction of BCC2 is starting

Where do you know this from? They were saying "the construction will start soon" for the past 2 years. Is it more plausible this time?

[John]

@Vaidas

bcc.lt rasoma, kad prasides "vasaros pabaigoje", taigi Rugpjuti ;)

[SinCity]

Few fresh photos of 16 storey and 76m high Victoria Tower construction and place where it's built - Business Triangle. In August construction of BCC2 is starting (identical to BCC - the dark blue 13 storey office building), after these two buildings are completed, Business Triangle will be a fully developed and architecturally complete area.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/johngang/Projects/updates/IMG_5747.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/johngang/Projects/updates/IMG_5748.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/johngang/Projects/updates/IMG_5752.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/johngang/IMG_5769.jpg

Wow, I love these construction pics John! Did you take them?

I must say that these buildings are very smart looking. Good to see plenty of activity in Vilnius! :)

[Mantas]

Thank you SinCity, although the last picture is a little bit fake, because these clusters are some 1.5 km away from each other :|

[PornStar]

Oh wow, Vilnius looks like a real glassy metropolis in this last pic, something unfortunately I cannot say about Tallin, where the skyline from further distance doesn't look good, except the churches. And I'm not even talking of Helsinki or Stockholm...
I wonder how this would look if more skyskrapers are built in this city?
So Vilnius, are you gonna try to take over Warsaw?(where there's not that much going on lately)

[Gatis]

Now you are pulling in other cities unnecessarily. Glassy metropolis is not the only way to look fine.

[PornStar]

Now you are pulling in other cities unnecessarily. Glassy metropolis is not the only way to look fine.
My god, what a sad thing. I say Vilnius in THIS PIC looks LIKE A REAL GLASSY METROPOLIS, whereas Tallinn or Helsinki don't for me. Now I'm not sure what's wrong with this statement... Since I said nothing about the general beauty or whatever these cities are... :weirdo:

[Petr]

So Vilnius, are you gonna try to take over Warsaw?(where there's not that much going on lately)
And you call it "there's not that much going on lately" ;):
http://www.warsaw3d.com/Rondo-View4-RenderOK.jpg
http://212.160.140.230:8080/capture1.jpg

[Mantas]

And just the only project, petr? Go Vilnius, go :D :D :D

[John]

yeah very few new projects in Warsaw, what a shame! :D

On the other hand Rondo 1 gross floor area is bigger than Vilnius NCC and Business Triangle combined :|

[Petr]

On the other hand Rondo 1 gross floor area is bigger than Vilnius NCC and Business Triangle combined :|
That's why we must wait a while for next proposals.
And we have Mr Borowski City Chief Architect who has strong aversion towards skyscrapers.
Of course from the unoffcial sources we know that there are some new projects...

[Petr]

And just the only project, petr? Go Vilnius, go :D :D :D
:tongue:
You have forgotten about the Golden Terraces:
http://www.se.com.pl/_gAllery/32/82/32823.jpg
Grzybowska Center:
http://www.warsaw3d.com/grzy-montage2-real.jpg
http://www.startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=263642&quality=80&maxpixel=800&identifier=29df5ed197

This construction should start this year:
http://www.sky.s64.pl/home/Plany/rc05.jpg

New proposal for Warsaw:
http://www.bt-invest.com.pl/image_rep/btd/btd-wspolna.jpg

There isn't any ground to talk about stagnation in Warsaw.

[blimey]

God damn it. Guys, guys!!!!!! Stop provocating them! They're gonna flood our thread with Warsaw pictures again!!!!!!!

[Mantas]

The last proposal is one that I like :yes:

[Petr]

God damn it. Guys, guys!!!!!! Stop provocating them! They're gonna flood our thread with Warsaw pictures again!!!!!!!
Don't be scarred @blimey, I've already finished.
When you have such a nice stuff it's a harm to don't show it to your Lithuanian friends.;)

[Petr]

The last proposal is one that I like :yes:
I have mixed feelings towards this project. We must wait for better renderings and of course for the final effect.

[Jacek]

There are many low rise projects in Warsaw just like that business triangle but nobody here cares to post it simply because for us they are just unspectacular boxes (there are over 350 of new buildings in Warsaw built after 1990).

We only post big projects.

[blimey]

Yeah i bet you got loads of districts that have overall value equal to the business triangle in Vilnius

one of them is called Warsaw

:D

[Jacek]

One business park alone in Warsaw has more office space than the entire capital of Lithuania. So yes Blimey you are correct.

[blimey]

I know i am.

[Kommandant Mark]

Ah, what are you fighting about:|

Lets just say... I think even two decades ago, Belgrade had more square meters of office space than Warsaw and Vilnius combined:D

[blimey]

Mexico city has more office space than Vilnius, Warsaw and Belgrade combined. Thats wy its so awesome, beautiful and rich.

[Jacek]

Belgrade can't compete with Warsaw when it comes to modern office space. 20 years ago it had more for sure (as Warsaw had almost none) but today it is a different story.

[intervention]

Hey, let's get back to the topic eh? :) Vilnius.

[Monkey]

Thanks, intervention! :)

[Petr]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/johngang/IMG_5769.jpg
BTW ;) This office cluster is great. It looks so modern and dense.

[Mantas]

Yeah, the business triangle is great. Photo by John
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/johngang/Vilnius/NCC_BT/IMG_5794.jpg

[Oberleutnant]

To be honest, I like Business Triangle way more than NCC. Somehow the buildings there look first-rate. With Victoria Tower and BCC2 completed it is going to rock very strongly.

[John]

Although there's no way I could like Business Triangle more than New City Center but no doubt it looks really cool when you pass it, buildings are built very tightly and it's a real cluster in the real meaning of it.

Here's my rendering of the final view of BT which should look like it already next year after BCC2 is built and Hanner's 5 storey office building is extended and becomes "highrise", Of course Victoria also will be completed ;)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/johngang/Vilnius/NCC_BT/bt.jpg

present view
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/johngang/Vilnius/NCC_BT/IMG_5793.jpg


view in 2001 (photo by Romas from Lithuanian forum), bankrupted shoe factory which was later reconstructed to an office building now known as Baltic Center
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v193/romas/Neris/56570009.jpg

[blimey]

EDIT: Thanks Swede:)

[ch1le]

nice john! Business triangle will surely look cool :)

[Swede]

@Blimey - nemas problemas :)

Thw Buisness Triangle does indeed look great with real density. It's not all that big of an area tho, but that's not a bad thing. It's better do develope a few blocks at a time (or less), that way its more organic growth.
btw - love the EU stars on BCC :D

[Kommandant Mark]

Interestng....what does "nemas problemas" mean, and what language is that?:)

[ch1le]

nemas problemas? judging from languages all around the world id say No problem... in lithuanian

[boogy]

more like in swedish dialect of lithuanian :)

[ch1le]

well... it was pretty easy to understand lithuanian...
I just added AS to some words and got a lithuanian equivalent..
Bank - Bankas, Cider - Cidras and so on :) I got along pretty well :)

In latvia I added only S... Banks, Big Macas and so on :)

[John]

well... it was pretty easy to understand lithuanian...
I just added AS to some words and got a lithuanian equivalent..
Bank - Bankas, Cider - Cidras and so on :) I got along pretty well :)

In latvia I added only S... Banks, Big Macas and so on :)

ch1le, your Lithuanian is really improving ;)

btw, "as" is added only to male names.

[ch1le]

aciu..
as is in Russian female word is then something which ends with A and so on? hmmm didnt know lithuanians had female/male word system! :)
Or did you mean Male names? as JonAS, VytautAS?

[Gatis]

In Latvian - if you would say - "Banks" everybody will laugh his ass off. Bank is in female gender - "banka". And "Big Makas" sounds Lithuanian - Latvians would just add "s" - Bigmaks. Which also sounds stupid because it is foreign name.
Yes, in this respect (female gender is with "a" or "e" added) Latvian is similar to Russian - after all Baltic languages are somewhat nearer relatives to Slavic languages than the others.

[John]

aciu..
as is in Russian female word is then something which ends with A and so on? hmmm didnt know lithuanians had female/male word system! :)
Or did you mean Male names? as JonAS, VytautAS?

sorry I meant all male words, not only names. Although in some cases it's not "as" but "is" or even "us" (I know this is crazy :laugh: ), for example some Estonian ...nicknames ;)

Renx -> Renxas
Sander -> Sanderis
Jarmo -> Jarmas

Russian name Aleksey -> Alekseyus

as for Russian felame names, it's exactly the same as in Russian.

[John]

In Latvian - if you would say - "Banks" everybody will laugh his ass off. Bank is in female gender - "banka". And "Big Makas" sounds Lithuanian - Latvians would just add "s" - Bigmaks. Which also sounds stupid because it is foreign name.
Yes, in this respect (female gender is with "a" or "e" added) Latvian is similar to Russian - after all Baltic languages are somewhat nearer relatives to Slavic languages than the others.

this is interesting because in Lithuanian bank is a male word (bankas). Although in Northern part of Lithuania in spoken language many people use only "s" instead of "as", for example

Jonas -> Jons
Mantas -> Mants
Bankas -> Banks

[blimey]

John: we wouldnt say Jarmas. It would be just Jarmo. Everything that ends in -o is just that. Like there's a driver in F1 called Jarno Trulli and commentators call him Jarno Trullis not Jarnas Trullis :)

[blimey]

Btw, gatis, this whole male-female thing is not slavic. Many languages do it e.g. French

[John]

John: we wouldnt say Jarmas. It would be just Jarmo. Everything that ends in -o is just that. Like there's a driver in F1 called Jarno Trulli and commentators call him Jarno Trullis not Jarnas Trullis :)

you're not exactly right, they sometimes say like that.

[blimey]

I am right.
You know Estonian driver Marko Martin? Have you ever heard someone saying Markas Martinas? At least in the news they always say Marko Martinas.

[John]

I don't watch TV blimey so I don't know, but even if this is the common case some do say like I told (especially older people).

Actually this -as stuff was even more common in Soviet times. E.g. if you've got the "Soviet Encyclopedia" (in Lithuanian), there's an article about cars, there's a picture of old Ferrari car and it's written "Feraris" :)

[blimey]

Maybe old people did this, but nobody does it anymore.


From http://www.kaunodiena.lt/lt/?id=6&aid=7993

Estas Marko Martinas su naujuoju “Ford Focus RS WRC 03” penktadienį važiavo pakankamai greitai ir stabiliai, dienos pabaigoje estas tenkinosi garbinga antra pozicija.

From http://www.infosport.lt/news.php?news_id=236


1. Michaelis Schumacheris (Vokietija) - 90 tšk.
2. Rubensas Barrichello (Brazilija) - 68
3. Jensonas Buttonas (Didžioji Britanija) - 48
4. Jarno Trullis (Italija) - 46
5. Fernando Alonso (Ispanija) - 33
6. Juanas Pablo Montoya (Kolumbija) - 25
7. Takuma Sato (Japonija) - 14

And its good because if you said Markas Martinas people would think that his name is actually Mark Martin not Marko Martin.

[Gatis]

"Btw, gatis, this whole male-female thing is not slavic. Many languages do it e.g. French"
I know that genders are in most (all?) indoeuropean languages. But the way how genders are made in Baltic languages is one of the things which makes them somewhat similar to Slavic languages.
:) But after all this is Vilnius development thread, not linguistics.

[ch1le]

right gatis... although the female/male seems weird for an estonian..
My name is Martin... then someone adds Martinas... or in russian even worse Martina - which sounds like a girlsname :P or Martinaz... then im like Juan Pablo :P For me its weird that you also change names... a name should be identical to the user :) not turned and twisted...

[blimey]

Btw, one last remark about the linguistics thingie:

These -as -us -is endings make Lithuanian names look African and inpronouncible. E.g. in a basketball game if someone saw our flag [very similar to ethiopian] and the list of our players such as Sarunas Marciulionis and Arvydas Macijauskas, one would probably think that its an african team thats playing.

[ch1le]

you really hate your flag, dont you? :laugh:

[blimey]

How did you notice?! :)

Estonian one rules though, love it.
Latvian is great too.

Ours is completely useless, meaningless and tasteless. Furthermore it looks African.

[ch1le]

well.. i find your flag quite nice ;), but i cant understand Latvian one...
Im quite satisfied with ours... although a Scandinavian cross would have been much cooler :) (also it was actually proposed)

[Gatis]

Should we invent new Lithuanian flag??? May be @blimeys new avatar can inspire us??? :)

[Gatis]

What is hard to understand in Latvian flag btw??? Story goes - somewhere in 12th century there was laid dying man after the battle on a white sheet. All the flag except for the place where he was lying, was coloured with his blood. The man apparently was extremely thin. Thus we ended up having this flag:
http://www.state.gov/cms_images/latvia_flag_2003-worldfactbook.gif

[ch1le]

ok.. i got it.. :) cool, newer heard of that story ! :)

[blimey]

OMG!
Why would you want to have a flag that represents a dying skinny man lying in his blood!
Or is this some sort of conspiracy against Lithuania, since Lithuanians tend to be tall and skinny? ;)

[blimey]

as for Lithuanian flag, it should be either a white double cross of Vytis in red background or white Gedimino Stulpai in red background.

[John]

OMG!
Why would you want to have a flag that represents a dying skinny man lying in his blood!
Or is this some sort of conspiracy against Lithuania, since Lithuanians tend to be tall and skinny? ;)

blimey, it was a Latvian killed by Lithunaians.

[ch1le]

or the other way around /\

[John]

back to topic

some news
Vilnius aquapark construction starting this year

according to the latest news the construction of Vilnius Aquapark is starting later this year and will be complete by the end of 2005. Why it's so important? Because it will be the first aquapark in Lithuania and people will no longer have to go to aquaparks to neighbouring countries as most do now. Also an aquapark of similar size is under development in Lithuanian resort town of Druskininkai, it will open in 2006.

some facts about Vilnius aquapark:
- total area: 9500 m2
- max. visitors at once: 1500
- estimated visitors per year: 350,000
- construction will last 12 months
- cost: 13M Eur

visuals
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/johngang/Projects/ent%20park/Image4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/johngang/Projects/ent%20park/Image3.jpg


aquapark is part of Vilnius entertainment park development which is divided into 3 phases and possible later developments

1 phase - Siemens Arena (2003-2004)
2 phase - Aquapark (2004-2005)
3 phase - Family entertainment park (2005-2006)

Vilnius Entertainment park
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/johngang/Projects/ent%20park/Image1.jpg

Family entertainment park
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/johngang/Projects/ent%20park/Image2.jpg

[ch1le]

seems cool:okay: waterparks are always great fun! :)

[John]

small construction photo update

Vilnius Gate one of the biggest projects in Vilnius underway, construction of the lower part has already started (in the photo), construction of 19 storey tower and tunnel extention is starting in late August
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/johngang/Projects/updates/IMG_5868.jpg

they're already placing concrete poles after what the framework will start
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/johngang/Projects/updates/IMG_5869.jpg


Helios Center, the underground floor will be done soon and tower framework will start shortly
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/johngang/Projects/updates/IMG_5870.jpg

[John]

Some good news!

The abandoned construction which stood since 1989 is now finally resumed and next year will open as a new 10 storey multifunctional center which will include 190 room hotel, conference center of 1000 seats, exhibition center and public parking for 300 cars.

present situation, it stood like this for the last 15 years, located in Konstitucijos Avenue, just next to Europa Square :)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/johngang/Projects/IMG_0018.jpg

Scan from "Lietuvos Rytas" by Vaidas
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/v4idas/Scan/forumas.jpg

[ch1le]

wow! Great to see those projects :) Empty buildings are hidious!

[boogy]

huh? atleast from this angle that new building looks worse than the abandoned one.. weird and tasteless.

[Gatis]

This is one fine and interesting update :) Would disagree with @boogy - that abandoned buildings now looks worse. The new project is a bit weird too, but nothing that terrible. Funny location for the trees - they will wonder whole life why they are up there...

[Gatis]

Regarding the waterpark - it looks very similar to the one in Jurmala. Would it be near waterbody???
Currently Lithuanians make major part of clients in aquapark in Jurmala, profits are high and aquapark is planning extension.
Impatiently waiting for "Helios" - according to the design that should very fine highrise.

[John]

I'm not very glad about the new building either, it's just ok but nothing more. They are keeping the old construction which will be integrated into the new building so perhaps that's why it looks quite weird. But anyway it's good to see that concrete monster gone as it is now.

[DocentX]

Very nice thread :)

BTW - do You have any news, or photos from the reconstruction of Royal Palace ?

[Vaidas]

Victoria tower:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/v4idas/PICT4823.jpg



The location of the new 23-stroey tower (a crane in the middle of the photo): (BTW. take a look at those hills! :eek: )

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/v4idas/PICT4824.jpg



"Delfinas" residential almost complete:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/v4idas/PICT4827.jpg



2nd section of "Akropolis" taking shape:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/v4idas/PICT4829.jpg



"Vyrokas" update:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/v4idas/PICT4830.jpg



No action in the "SBA" building site :(

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/v4idas/PICT4839.jpg



Didlaukio street. The 2nd 16-storey new-age commieblock on the way:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/v4idas/PICT4844.jpg

[Mantas]

Wow, some photos are very impressive :eek:

[Vaidas]

Thanks.

I just realized that i've resized some of them and overwritten the originals :wallbash:

[PornStar]

These are very cool pics, Vaidas! I esp like this one:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/v4idas/PICT4829.jpg

[SinCity]

Nic construction pics Vaidas !!!!!!

[Gatis]

Sad about SBA - they had to make it faster to create good publicity for highrises...
Fine that Vyrokas is continued - maybe they will change the cladding as the highrise would be built???
Delfinas looks lika a missed opportunity in beautiful place.
Akropolis... wow... should be very very large at the end... How big it would be?

Vilnius is built in crazy speed :)

[Mantas]

It should be extended to 110,000 AFAIK :)

[Swede]

Interestng....what does "nemas problemas" mean, and what language is that?:)
nemas problemas? judging from languages all around the world id say No problem... in lithuanian
more like in swedish dialect of lithuanian :)
It is, in fact, iirc taken from a comercial a few years back in Sweden (said by a character simply known as Mr. Jim, International Buisnessman). It's kinda generalized Western (non-English) way of saying, like ch1le guessed, "no problem".:D

@Vaidas - nice pics there :D
@PornStar - yeah, forest-construstion site-commieblocks-forest-horizon. :) I can relate top that (always with the forest on the horizon in much of Sthlm).

[Gatis]

In Ukrainian (or some other Slavic language?) it would be "nema problema"

[Kommandant Mark]

Yeah, thats why I was wondering.
Because, in Serbian, its also "nema problema" (no problem)

[sOmeOne]

Look! It's a cute commieblock cluster :love:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/v4idas/PICT4829.jpg

See, even PornStar likes commieblocks. I know you all do.

[John]

@sOmeOne
you're always awaited to move from Seattle to Vilnius, in fact this is only a small part of all commieblocks, we've got alot more, so be sure life quality is alot higher here :yes:
;)

[PornStar]

Another awful massive boîte in Vilnius?

11floors + 2 floors of underground parking

http://www.hanner.lt/common/img/obj/18/big/2.jpg

http://www.hanner.lt/common/img/obj/18/big/0.jpg

www.hanner.lt

[John]

I'd be surprised if they build somth what is not "awful" in this location, it's a commie district and it would be too naive to expect something else. It's ok.

[John]

FINALLY!
The project which according to some is much more important than all those skyscrapers and mega scale shopping centers.

Construction of Vilnius Southern Highway starts in 2005 and completetion is expected in 2007

The location of Southern and Western highways were set back in 1965(!) Vilnius city general plan. The construction of Southern highway started in late 80's but halted in 1991-1992 and didn't move since then. Currently the new technical project is finally prepared and the construction is starting next year. Financing will be provided from the EU funds (85%), Lithuanian Government and Vilnius municipality (15%) - in total about 60 million Eur will be spent for the construction of the 4-6 lane road and all neded infrastructure (multilevel crossings, lighting, communications etc.)

Southern highway is a short but very important transportation arterry which will serve as city center bypass road for those travelling from Minsk direction to Kaunas and Klaipeda. Length of the newly constructed track - 3.2km

Part of the road was constructed earlier in Soviet times but now it's a highway to nowhere because the cars anyway have to turn to the city center and cross the entire city if want to go to Kaunas, Klaipeda or elswhere. After the road is complete, it will become direct access to A1 highway Vilnius-Kaunas-Klaipeda


current condition - road to nowhere :eek:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/johngang/greitkeliai/pietinis3.jpg

the designated route of the Southern Highway. The track is very complicated (several railway lines, streets and a roundabout junction) so the cost is much higher than it would be for a similar length highway range.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/johngang/greitkeliai/pietinis.jpg

It's not considered as a real city bypass road because its track is inside city limits and city suburbs continue far away outside the road but the purpose is a bypass of city center to avoid transit traffic crossing the very center of the city what is the case now
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/johngang/greitkeliai/pietinis2.jpg



Construction of the Western Highway (it will be just the continuation of the Southern) will start in 2007, the length - ~10km. After both roads are complete, the Southern highway continued as Western highway will connect Vilnius-Minsk road with A2 Vilnius-Panevezys motorway so redirecting all transit traffic to bypass the central part of city.

[Gatis]

Haah... these are very good renderings+picture, which show very clear what will be done!!! Yes, this is interesting and complicated project
Congratulations!!!

[Gatis]

Remember - once I got lost in Vilnius (I love it :) ) and stumbled upon that road. Funny that there is that small gravel road at the end - as if caricature of the big double carriage road. Last opportunity to make pictures :)

[John]

the place indeed looks strange, earlier i was wondering what was that but later discovered that it's the dead highway project prepared 40 years ago! :)

I tooks a pic a while ago
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/johngang/roads/IMG_5912.jpg

[Mantas]

Great news :D

[John]

Old "commie" style office building in central part of Vilnius will be reconstructed and made into luxury apartment building "Nida Apartments".

The current old 9 storey office building will be "upgraded" to 12 floors and additional two buildings will be built next to it.

I don't like it's "architecture" (looks like yet another new-age commie style residential) but according to the builder they are going to use only the top quality expensive materials so maybe it won't be that bad after all.

It will be the most expensive apartments in the whole Vilnius with price of square meter up to 2800 Eur/m2, the most expensive apartment on the top floor with terrace will cost as much as 2.5 million Eur :eek:

http://img40.exs.cx/img40/4382/nidos.jpg

http://img40.exs.cx/img40/3491/nidos2.jpg


present view (the building marked with red lines)
http://img34.exs.cx/img34/1859/STD_5288.jpg

[ch1le]

i think the old one looks better then the new one...
ehh 2.5 mil euro? insane! notify me if anyone will buy

the apartment at tallinn's highes residential building.. Maakri maja at 19 floorshttp://www.fksm.ee/everest/est/keskkond.htm 115m2, one m2 cost 30 000 eek, 2000 euro... the location is prime!

in your post u sayd 2800 euro per sqm2.. well.. how big is that terrace apartment?!

[John]

i think the old one looks better then the new one...
ehh 2.5 mil euro? insane! notify me if anyone will buy

the apartment at tallinn's highes residential building.. Maakri maja at 19 floorshttp://www.fksm.ee/everest/est/keskkond.htm 115m2, one m2 cost 30 000 eek, 2000 euro... the location is prime!

in your post u sayd 2800 euro per sqm2.. well.. how big is that terrace apartment?!

well that apartment is gonna be big, over 800m2 + 200m2 terace, it's gonna occupy two top floors so no wonder why it's that expensive, although 1sq.m price is still very high. On the other hand it will provide the best views in the city, Gediminas castle and the entire old town just in front of you :)
and afaik, about 30% of apartments are sold to this day. Construction should start in a few weeks.

[sdes]

i think the old one looks better then the new one...

So do I :)

2.5 million Eur, are you serious?

EDIT:
Ok now I get it, over 800m2 :D

[ch1le]

hehe 800m2... that is huge... no wonder 3.5 miljo pricetag...mm, dont know.. i think europa apartments still have a better wiev... :)
Pricy apartments in tallinn sell like hot cakes too :) the most central apartmens, in Viru keskus(10 storey building) sold out very very quickly...!
In tallinn skyscraper apartments are getting more and more popular - Maakri maja 19 stroreys, pirita 16 stroyes, Osten tor 15 storeys, Twin 1 30 storeys, proposed tartu mnt 15 - planned 40 stroyers... :D mmm :cheers:

edit: looking at the pictures... it seems impossible to me that that tiny terrace can be 200m2?!

[John]

Detailed info about expansion of "Akropolis" shopping center

The original mall "Akropolis" was built in 2002 and became the biggest shopping center in Vilnius as well as biggest center owned by VP market.
Some facts:
Total building area: ~55,000 m2
Shops: ~120
Workplaces: ~2000
Parking: 2600 cars
Landplot: 15,5 ha


This year expansion of "Akropolis" has started, additional building of more than 55,000 m2 is being built. Over 70 new shops, restaurants and cafes will open in the new building. Nearby streets and infrastructure will be upgraded as well.
Facts about the new part of "Akropolis":

Total building area: over 55,000m2
Shops: over 70

a few photos
view of the whole center
http://img36.exs.cx/img36/5035/IMG_6412.jpg


construction of the extension building, there were plans to build a highrise office building next to it but currently there's no any info about it
http://img56.exs.cx/img56/1138/IMG_6413.jpg

After the completion of the additional building (in November this year) "Akropolis" will be the biggest shopping center in Baltic countries with total area of 110,000 m2 and about 200 shops inside.

[ch1le]

it seems tiny!

[John]

but it is huge :D

[Gatis]

You may get very tired after walking in this shop. Have they thought about some tramlines inside it?
Very flat and large. And 110 000 m2 - that would be hard to beat in Riga, I am sure. The city is "fed up" with the trade space a bit. F.e. the building site for the supermarket "Riga Plaza" has been prepared but now they announced that they will stop and wait a little - if purchasing power of people will grow quickly over in this year - then may be they will continue. "VP Market" is going to build their giant - "Daugavgriva centrs" here anyway. It is also 110 000 m2 - so which is going to be larger - the one in Riga or in Vilnius? May be in Riga they will build 110 001 m2?

[ch1le]

does that 110 000m2 include parking space? or is it the value of floorspace of shops(the walkways not included)

[Edd]

does that 110 000m2 include parking space? or is it the value of floorspace of shops(the walkways not included)
No, parking space is not included. I think that it's a total area of the shopping centre.

[Edd]

Btw just next to "Akropolis" there is a 30 000 places national stadium planned, but I doubt that it'll be built :(. The football in Lithuania is in a very bad situation.

[Gatis]

May be building of stadion will improve football as well? (No, I know, it should be the other way round)

[John]

The problem is that Vilnius hasn't got ANY normal football stadium so it must be built anyway.

[John]

Construction of BCC2 is starting

I checked the place today, they've already erected the construction infoboard and started construction of multistorey parking, construction of BCC2 itself may start anyday.
BCC2 will be practically identical to BCC which will stand just a few meters away.

Building info:
Total floor area: 8,000 sq.m
Office space: 6,000 sq.m
Floors: 13 (12+1 tech. floor)
Height: 50m
Completion: December 2005

http://img12.exs.cx/img12/3986/bcc2.jpg

http://www.eika.lt/admin/images/get.php?id=887

present situation of Business Triangle. BCC2 is not the last project yet, building on the right in the foreground will be "upgraded" from 5 to 12 floors, after this Business Triangle will be complete
http://img13.exs.cx/img13/817/IMG_5751.jpg

[ch1le]

great! i like bcc! its a nice building

[Swede]

BCC has a cool facade, from the right angle it'll look 30+ storeys tall :)

Adding height to that round one? that's good planning - preparing for more floors even if they're not needed at first.

[John]

@Swede

I think originally the round one was planned to have 10 storeys but it was not allowed "to ruin" the urbanistic view, and it was just in 1999, now it seems the times have changed and even 12 floors won't ruin anything :)

and here's a fresh shot of Victoria tower which is about to reach the top height in a couple of weeks
http://img77.exs.cx/img77/5847/victoria_vln.jpg

[Edd]

And here is how that small round office will look like after some floors will be added:
http://img51.photobucket.com/albums/v156/Edd_host/hanner.jpg

[Swede]

^ok, but still they included structural elements so they could build the "not allowed" floors later. Me likes that way of thinking :)

[Edd]

@Swede: I think that they did not included structural elements which could be used to build the "not allowed" floors later (I'm not sure). That's why in the rendering there are constructions from the ground which will help to hold new added floors.

[Edd]

Middle Europe Investments Baltija, a Dutch capital real estate development company is going to rebuild two houses in the old town at Stikliu street.

The buildings were built in XIV-XV ages and they were destroyed after the second world war. They will be used for residential and commercial purposes. The reconstruction of these buildings started in 2003 year but it ended after one of the workers died at the construction site. Now this project was taken over by Middle Europe Investments Baltija and the works will continue.

Some renderings:

http://img2.exs.cx/img2/9718/Untitled-76.jpg

http://www.arcoreal.lt/images/ss_big/1092133755_04_Stikliai.jpg

http://www.arcoreal.lt/images/ss_big/1092133780_03_Stiklai.jpg

Middle Europe Investments Baltija plans to invest around EUR 100 million in Lithuania and another project by them is "Grand Duke Palace" at Gediminas avenue - information about it was posted earlier.

[Gatis]

The last one is clever idea ;) Am tired of people who think that in Old Cities there should be included modern architecture

[John]

@Edd
didn't know about this, thanks for the models, love such projects when they try to rebuild buildings according to their original view :okay:


@Gatis
I don't like those "combinations" of modern and old which look neither old neither modern, just some kind of tasteless kitch. This one will be kitsch as well but at least it'll look like old :)


and here's a completely kitschy project which is still under develpment, entertainment zone in Pavilnys Regional Park in Vilnius (just some 6 km away from city center). They built all this on an empty place, but I still kinda love it :)
There are few cafes, restaurants, and other stuff.

those "old" buildings didn't exist a year ago :)

http://img13.exs.cx/img13/7307/IMG_6442.jpg

http://img10.exs.cx/img10/2377/IMG_6444.jpg

http://img10.exs.cx/img10/903/IMG_6445.jpg

http://img10.exs.cx/img10/1581/IMG_6448.jpg

http://img10.exs.cx/img10/8702/IMG_6449.jpg

http://img10.exs.cx/img10/9828/IMG_6453.jpg

[Edd]

@John: This project was posted a long time ago in ssc forum but then the situation was a bit different.
@Gatis: Everything started three years ago and then there was a competition and the winner project was a modern glassy building. But it was not allowed to build such modern project in the old town. So finally we'll have old buildings rebuilt :).

[boogy]

@John I've been there a month or two ago, the place looks simply gorgious! Those new fountains, bars, restaurants and small parks look so charming and everythig is just squeeeky clean :) I couldn't believe my eyes because I saw it then the place was just empty remains of a huge building.

[John]

boogy, exactly my thoughts :)
That place really looks great, I was kinda suprised to see all this even though I know that some new development was underway there.

[Kommandant Mark]

John, what you just posted, thats definately one of the weirdest projects I ever seen here. I know where such old buildng were re-constructed, but built totally from scratch? Holy...:eek:

I LOVE IT!

[stockholm79]

and here's a completely kitschy project which is still under develpment, entertainment zone in Pavilnys Regional Park in Vilnius (just some 6 km away from city center). They built all this on an empty place, but I still kinda love it :)
There are few cafes, restaurants, and other stuff.

those "old" buildings didn't exist a year ago :)

Wow, that's just so cool! It looks as if they would have used some old plans, and the transitions between the different materials (stone/wood, stone/brick) looks as if it had grown through the centuries!
And it definitely proves that it the Lithuanians are able to rebuild and renovate old buildings.



The problem is that Vilnius hasn't got ANY normal football stadium so it must be built anyway.

Aaah, reminds me of a soccer crazy German friend of mine who just had to watch a match in Lithuania.
I think it was the local Vilnius team against Marijampolė, one of them had the team name Šviesa.
Somebody had called him 'filigrane' once, so he put the name 'Filigranauskas' on the Lithuanian National Team shirt he had bought, I don't know the reactions of the other spectators.
The Vilnius stadium wasn't really crowded, there were a handfull of each team's supporters. The match itself shouldn't have been any sensation, he described it as maybe somewhere near the German Regionalliga level. His "best" memory was of the urinals, which he described with an "oooooo".

/or

[Geex]

Ok here is some photos from my neighbourhood :) I wanted to take all projects, but battery went low, i will add more later..


First of all 2 new comies

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_0151.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_0150.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_0149.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_0143.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_0141.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_0142.jpg

And here new LNK TV building (small red :))

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_0153.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_0146.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_0148.jpg

New commercial + residental building

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_0155.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_0154.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_0156.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_0157.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_0158.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_0159.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_0164.jpg

And another commie

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_0163.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_0162.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_0161.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_0160.jpg

[RGG]

The last one was a complete disaster for the image of northern Vilnius :bash:

[Dziki REX]

Why, looks abit scandinawic. Nice architecture.

[Edd]

It's time to bring this thread back to life I think :). I'll do it with a very unique project in Vilnius.
The story begins when in a prestiguous district of Vilnius called "žvėrynas" (it's located not far from the city center) one very valuable wooden building was demolished - atleast everyone thought so. The land plot where the old wooden building was, belongs to chief executive of a big IT company "Alna". He decided to build a house for his family in that place. It seems that the old house was not demolished - it was disjoined into parts and these parts will be restored and used in a new building. The new building actually is going to look exactly like the previous old wooden building - the old wooden building is going to be rebuilt. Half of the new building is going to be in a new underground floor (the overground part of the building as I said before is going to look like the old "demolished" wooden building).
Some pics (sorry for bad quality):
http://img71.exs.cx/img71/4748/pic34.jpg

http://img80.exs.cx/img80/8300/pic32.jpg

[John]

wow, now that's something interesting, thanks Edd :okay:

[Monkey]

Fascinating, Edd! :) That's a strange story indeed. While I'm glad the guy went to the trouble of disassembling the old house with the intent to replicate it and re-use the old parts, I wonder why he wants to put part of the old building underground and build the new part above ground? Why not do it the other way round? -- Well, there must be reasons, and I'm very happy about this project.

It's a BEAUTIFUL house btw ... all that ornate carved wood is lovely! :cool:

[Edd]

@WH: No, the old building will be rebuilt in the same place as it was before and the new part (extension of the building) is going to be located underground. Maybe I wrote a bit unclear in my previous post (it might be because of my not so good English language :)).

[Monkey]

Thanks for clearing that up for me, Edd! :cheers1: Now I'm 100% in love with the project! :banana:

And please don't don't think your English is "not so good" because I find that the opposite is very much the case--you're doing great! :okay:

[Edd]

Jewish quartal will be rebuilt, rendering:
http://img24.exs.cx/img24/8041/rend1.jpg

The first floors of rebuilt buildings will be given to jewish community, there will be historical, culture expositions. At the end of XIX century there were 64000 jews in Vilnius (38% of all inhabitants of Vilnius).

[Edd]

Are there any news from the project of reconstruction of town hall square? Few years ago one company "Omnitel" said that when town hall square will be reconstructed they will build a big fountain there which will be controlled by sms messages. Inhabitants of Vilnius chose one project of fountain but then everything ended. That's very strange - there are completely no news from that project.

I also found some other reconstruction project on the internet but it was written there that reconstruction should start in 2002 and end in 2003:
http://www.archinova.lt/rotuse1.jpg

http://www.archinova.lt/rotuse2.jpg

[John]

@Edd

I'm not sure (this is just my thought) but I think the reconstruction was delayed on purpose. Next year the Old Town bypass road should be built and it was said that after that some traffic limitations in the old town will be set. It was also said that after reconstruction cars would be banned from the town hall square. So if taking these two things into consideration now I guess they're going to build the bypass first and then reconstruct the square.

[John]

VP Market's high-rise office building is U/C next to the extension of "Akropolis" shopping center. The building will have 15 floors, nothing really impressive as for a high-rise. However there's one important feature - it will have FREE public observation deck on the top while the views from there should be some of the best in the city because the area is located at one of the highest points of Vilnius.

visual
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/v4idas/Scan/akropolis.jpg

How it's going to look from the city center, some are worrying about "destruction" of the panorama of those green hills
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/johngang/akropolis.jpg

construction pic a few days ago
http://img34.exs.cx/img34/1817/IMG_6819.jpg

[Vaidas]

^
That visual was 5 months old. The newest one (from the other side though):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/v4idas/Scan/akropolis2.jpg

And the observation deck will be totally cool! It will be a perfect place to go and zoom-zoom some panoramas :D

[Geex]

Just few more photos :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5790.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5789.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5788.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5787.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5786.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5785.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5784.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5781.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5778.jpg

[ch1le]

great pics :yes: et looks very tall :yesyes:

[Koniaczeq]

Europa Tower is amazing !!! What a shame that she isnt in Warsaw :D !!

[John]

Europa Tower is amazing !!! What a shame that she isnt in Warsaw :D !!

I agree, Rondo 1 would look much better in Vilnius
;)

[Monkey]

Thank you for the show, Geex! :) VERY nice shots. :okay:

On the other hand, I can't say that I am enthralled by that green box popping out of the woods in the outskirts of town. :(

[Koniaczeq]

I agree, Rondo 1 would look much better in Vilnius
;)
Maybe :P ;) but you know Warsaw needs skyscraper like ET :) I mean on shape of round :D near Rondo 1 and IC :D But this is topic about Vilnius :p not Warszawa :D

[ch1le]

Wh, thats how baltic citys are...what seems as a Outskirt to you, is actually there centre! :D

[Geex]

And more pictures... :)

Reconstructed old "soviet era" building, now it is commercial like everithing else.. :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5844.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5846.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5847.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5848.jpg

New commies in snipiskiu district..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5845.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5850.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5851.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5852.jpg

And new commies in seskine district..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5853.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5854.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5856.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5860.jpg

LNK TV (funny photo)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5859.jpg

New (finished 1 week ago) commercial buildings in seskine district. They are from 3 to 7 floors hight. I will ad more photo of those buildings soon.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5857.jpg

Btw shoot was taken from very far so you can't see all of them :)


And few more photos just for fun..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5861.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5841.jpg



And another news from Vilnius: i saw several new areas where constuction is just begining, i hope to add new info i photos as soon as posible :)

[John]

LOL something is really funy about it, it looks like the building has moved from its place and is about to leave :laugh:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5859.jpg

[blimey]

Great photos, Geex. Thanks.
Quality is excellent.

[Geex]

One more update for today..

"Helios" Tower construction site

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5862.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5863.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5864.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5865.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5866.jpg

Some buidings near "Helios"..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5867.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5868.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5869.jpg

New Commies near "Crowne Plaza" & Hotel itself ;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5870.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5871.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5872.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5875.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5876.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5873.jpg

"Street" ;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5880.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5877.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5881.jpg

Mmmm.. new&ugly&commie?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5882.jpg

And other photos..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5884.jpg
We love America too, dont we?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5883.jpg
Cars su* :(

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5885.jpg
Crane in "Vilniuas vartai" construction site (i like this foto very very much)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5887.jpg
Ehh how i hate cars.. ;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5888.jpg
Green :)

[ch1le]

great pics, WHoa when did Helios start construction????????

[Geex]

Don't know when, but it is under construction :)

[Monkey]

Ow wow, Geex, what a nice series! :okay:

So varied and informative ... there sure is a lot of building going on in Vilnius! :cool:

[John]

Geex, thanks for the update :)


@ch1le
the first construction works started back in June, it was a big suprise for us all because there was no info about this project anywhere.
It's also one of the "problematic" cases because of # of floors. Municipality allowed a 23 storey building there but the company is going to build it to 26 floors. We'll see what is what after it's done (next year), we all hope for the best (i.e. 26 or even 27 floors :D).

[ch1le]

Oh, june, ok. I thought like what they built so much in a month or so :) Glad to hear it will be taller, still, i wont tire to say it again: Vilnius construction companies are crazy not keeping in boundrys set by Municipality! GOOD FOR THEM! :D

[Geex]

Thanks Whose Homepage.

But there is a lot of more new projects "on paper" if most of them will be approved (and i hope they will) new construcion "boom" expected in Vilnius in 2006.

Just lets hope new projects will be approved.

Btw some sources in local administration says, that most of them will be pending until summer of 2005, we will see..

[Geex]

Oh, june, ok. I thought like what they built so much in a month or so :) Glad to hear it will be taller, still, i wont tire to say it again: Vilnius construction companies are crazy not keeping in boundrys set by Municipality! GOOD FOR THEM! :D

Hehe thats true :) But it's because of very small fines set by goverment, so construction companies just pay's fines and then sell much more commercial/residental space and get much more money :runaway:

[John]

Oh, june, ok. I thought like what they built so much in a month or so :) Glad to hear it will be taller, still, i wont tire to say it again: Vilnius construction companies are crazy not keeping in boundrys set by Municipality! GOOD FOR THEM! :D

and looking from another angle we might say that it's the crazy (or better lazy ) bureaucrates who create all kinds of formal problems to compenies :)

[Oberleutnant]

It's definitely good for high-rise enthusiasts, but I don't that's a proper way to do business. Irresponsible companies who defy official rules belong to thirld world countries and places like Russia.

I hope Vilnius municipality can improve itself and reduce bureaucracy, so that there won't be "need" for this.

[sdes]

I 100% agree with Toni!

[Gladiator]

Municipality allowed a 23 storey building there but the company is going to build it to 26 floors. We'll see what is what after it's done (next year), we all hope for the best (i.e. 26 or even 27 floors :D).

I'm afraid not this time. I heard that some people living near this neighbourhood (Ciurlionio gatves rajonas) opposed to this building very much and wanted to stop it, but then they reached the agreement with building company that they will cut 2 or 3 floors.

[Geex]

It's definitely good for high-rise enthusiasts, but I don't that's a proper way to do business. Irresponsible companies who defy official rules belong to thirld world countries and places like Russia.

I hope Vilnius municipality can improve itself and reduce bureaucracy, so that there won't be "need" for this.

Well.. they don't defy rules, they just want to change them, but in many cases they didn't changed rules.

[Gladiator]

It's definitely good for high-rise enthusiasts, but I don't that's a proper way to do business. Irresponsible companies who defy official rules belong to thirld world countries and places like Russia.

I hope Vilnius municipality can improve itself and reduce bureaucracy, so that there won't be "need" for this.

Agree, but usually these bureaucratic barriers are made on purpose to make some bribes from businessman. Btw recently construction of 15 story building was stopped, because they haven't a single permit to build this building.

[Oberleutnant]

Agree, but usually these bureaucratic barriers are made on purpose to make some bribes from businessman. Btw recently construction of 15 story building was stopped, because they haven't a single permit to build this building.

Seriously? I know Jonas talked about corruption on municipality level, but corruption as bad as this? Damn.

[Vaidas]

great pictures, Geex!

One more update for today..

New Commies near "Crowne Plaza" & Hotel itself ;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5870.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5871.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5872.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5875.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5876.jpg


I am not sure about the design of this building, but AFAIK this is supposed to become one of the most luxurious apartment buildings in Vilnius




http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/geex/IMG_5884.jpg
We love America too, dont we?

'70s Corvette Stingray... sweet... Didn't know there were any in LT :drool:

[John]

Seriously? I know Jonas talked about corruption on municipality level, but corruption as bad as this? Damn.

Corruption is everywhere, we just don't see it :)

Btw, talking about municipal corruption in Baltic cities, according to a survey which was done a year or two ago Tallinn is a complete leader in this field among Baltic cities.

[Oberleutnant]

Corruption is everywhere, we just don't see it :)

True, but not everywhere as much as in some other places. :) And that it exists elsewhere certainly doesn't mean it should be encouraged



Btw, talking about municipal corruption in Baltic cities, according to a survey which was done a year or two ago Tallinn is a complete leader in this field.

It was? Definitely not a good thing.

[Gladiator]

True, but not everywhere as much as in some other places. :) And that it exists elsewhere certainly doesn't mean it should be encouraged

It's just soviet era echo. It was the way of life back then. People paid from doctors, to get into the clinic, to butchery or vodka factory bosses to get a job in these places :runaway: .

[Edd]

Great updates but why no one make updates of "Siemens" arena? And John: where are the promised news about "Registru centras" building? ;)

One more important thing which was not mentioned here: The municipality of Vilnius made a list of projects for 2004-2005 years where money from EU funds will be also invested (they hope so). The list contains 41 project with total worth of 200 mio EUR. The biggest projects are western, southern city high-ways and other infrastructure projects. One rendering of a few crossroads not far from the new city center:
http://img98.exs.cx/img98/7176/vilko2.jpg

[John]

@Edd

I didn't call to the municipality yet to ask about Registru Centras (what a lazy bastad I am), I'll do this next week for sure :)

and it's good they're starting to do something about the roads because traffic in Vilnius sucks incredibly bad.

[ch1le]

Corruption is everywhere, we just don't see it :)

Btw, talking about municipal corruption in Baltic cities, according to a survey which was done a year or two ago Tallinn is a complete leader in this field among Baltic cities.

thats complete bullshit, where did u get that from?

[John]

thats complete bullshit

This was some survey a while ago, now can't remember exactly the details. They stated thet generally corruption level in Estonia is the lowest in the Baltic states but at municipal level the corruption is very high and higher than in Lithuania or Latvia. I dunno if this was bullshit or not.

[ch1le]

hmm, interesting never heard of it, but its possible...

[Eerik]

Btw, talking about municipal corruption in Baltic cities, according to a survey which was done a year or two ago Tallinn is a complete leader in this field among Baltic cities.

That's very interesting. Can you cite the name of the study, or at least who the study was conducted by? How was the survey conducted?

For many years, according to similar assessments by the World Bank, IMF, and other organizations, the main reason economic development and progress in Lithuania lagged so terribly was due to economic and political uncertainty that created a lack of faith on part of foreign investors.

But that was the past; thankfully in the last couple of years things have started to change for the better in Lithuania.

But if you get the chance, and remember the name of that study, I would really appreciate it if you could share that information with us!

[John]

@Eerik

I can't remember it now, it was some article in Delfi maybe a year ago and I just recalled what was stated there. If i'll find it I'll post it.

[Eerik]

This was some survey a while ago, now can't remember exactly the details. They stated thet generally corruption level in Estonia is the lowest in the Baltic states but at municipal level the corruption is very high and higher than in Lithuania or Latvia. I dunno if this was bullshit or not.

...but then again, all you have to do is look at the current situation in the Tallinn municipal government! Fortunately foreign investment is more contingent upon national measures and less so on local politics.

[Kim André]

I'm new to skyscrapercity, and I think this is a very good thread. You have posted a lot of nice pictures of the architectual landskape of Vilnius here. Looks nice! I've never been to Lithuania before, but I'm actually planning to move there when I have graduated ;)

I'll follow this one!
Kim

[John]

I'm new to skyscrapercity, and I think this is a very good thread. You have posted a lot of nice pictures of the architectual landskape of Vilnius here. Looks nice! I've never been to Lithuania before, but I'm actually planning to move there when I have graduated ;)

I'll follow this one!
Kim

Welcome to SSC Kim. It's very interesting that you're going to move to Lithuania, but why are you going to do so? :)

[Monkey]

Welcome again, Kim! :) Like John, I'm curious to learn why you've chosen Lithuania to move to? Actually, it's not a bad choice -- I visited Vilnius last summer and got to meet John, who gave me a fabulous guided tour of the city, and a number of other Lithuanian forumers. :grouphug:

On the other hand, I don't know the other Baltic countries at all :( and so the above recommendation might be interpreted as prejudice, which is not the case.

ALL S&B countries and cities are great! :okay:

[Kim André]

Hi again, John and.. eh... I call you WH ;)

I have no "logical" reason for moving to Lithuania or any other country in this region actually. I have a general interest for countries, peoples, cultures, politics, language, religion and so on, so I have always been fascinated by other places and people than those I know well.

East and Central Europe has more appeal to me than other regions, and my "favourite country" varies by time. I often get very in to one country, and just that country, when I first get my "period". Earlier it has been Austria, Latvia, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Poland and Russia. I've been into Lithuania a couple of times before, and I seem to always fall back to having Lithuania as my favourite country :)

It looks very pretty there, and I have to admit that this page has been inspiring: http://vilnius.web1000.com/

So... I'm soon starting the work on my masters dissertion, and I'm planning to write about Lithuanias way into the European Union. The work that has been in forehand to fit into the EU system, and also how the Lithuanian government and people have implementet the changes that has been neccessary to fullfill the demands that has been set by the EU for Lithuanian membership.

I have collected many important HTML-pages now, and I'm soon ready to start the early work of my project :)