This thread is part II...



The origional has been archived here...

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=177251

oringal design of espirto santo
http://img119.exs.cx/img119/6003/lg81a8ip.jpg
http://www.perkinswill.com/projects/project.aspx?id=81

i really don't know why they stop,maybe they're not ready to start the condo yet
http://img115.exs.cx/img115/3207/11059514610914184ou.jpg

accodring to the website the condo should b over in a year, i seriously doubt that that will happen, and as we all know from met's site, sites are not always the most reliable sources, the met site didnt change throughout the entire fiasco... chuck will save us, he always knows everything, hell find out wats goin on

I though that part of the site was the parking area, the condos are supposed to go up on the other end of the huge mary brickell site, right??

I'm pretty sure this is the parking structure that has topped out right next to the metrorail/mover station



http://img103.exs.cx/img103/582/mb3.jpg

I fear that parking structure was just a placeholder in the original design, that that's where the condo's supposed to go.

woow good find uptown, look @ the espirito santo old design, seems like a skeleton though.

Street, this is an early rendering of MBV. Notice the cars are going one way to the North, which means that is the view looking to the west. This is before the residential component was added to the project. Behind that structure in picture would be the Metrorail, on the 900 block of Miami Ave, the Metro Mover is separated by two blocks from the MetroRail. My guess is, that they will continue with the retail component whether or not the residential component is successful. I'll be waiting for Chuck and his hard hat gumshoes to report in with the facts.

yeah that espirito santo pic still looks cool though would love to see that bein placd somewhere else though... hey u guys know any info on the ground breaking/completion of 500 brickell and plaza i thought activity for these 2 site was moving but it looks dead to me?

I always thought the tower was supposed to be on the Eastern edge of MBV and the parking structure on the western edge by the Metrorail. Guess we'll have to wait and see.

I always thought the tower was supposed to be on the Eastern edge of MBV and the parking structure on the western edge by the Metrorail. Guess we'll have to wait and see.
The parcel east of Miami Ave is quite small and I bellive is about topped off. The rendering that I saw looked like the towers are on top of the parking to west of the western parcel.
http://www.restainer.com/MBV.jpg

ROARK :) , Bro, Have you been Watching the 35 FOOT HIGH Top on Top of your Brickell on the RIVER :) CONDO TOWER Lately, Its still Going UP !!! :cheers:

ROARK :) , Bro, Have you been Watching the 35 FOOT HIGH Top on Top of your Brickell on the RIVER :) CONDO TOWER Lately, Its still Going UP !!! :cheers:
Yah mon! Come over for a base jumping party in July!!!! :cheers:

so any reports on the spire at bor

any reports?, man i still think it should have been that taller spire in the older rendering that was like an extra 100 feet, they had 2 downgrade it 2 the cheap minispire lol

any news on the plaza or 500 brickell projects shouldnt they have broken ground yet.. i thought there was activity over at the plaza but it seems dead to me and 500 i just saw some drill truck on the site <----huh?--->

The parcel east of Miami Ave is quite small and I bellive is about topped off. The rendering that I saw looked like the towers are on top of the parking to west of the western parcel.
http://www.restainer.com/MBV.jpg

You're right it will go on the west side. It looks from the rendering that it will be behind (to the west) of the parking garage. If you look at the construction there is an empty space where the tower is going to rise. I guess they want to finish the garage before they start the tower. See the rendering on the website: http://www.skylinemarybrickell.com/


http://img101.exs.cx/img101/2017/mbvcam5bq.jpg

That's a relief.

jemanuel,you couldn't of seen a drill crane at 500,because i sure 50 biscayne,plaza and loft 2 will start before 500

http://linkurealty.com/agent_pictures/434/Axis%20arch%201.jpg
http://linkurealty.com/agent_pictures/434/Axis%20arch%202.jpg
http://linkurealty.com/agent_pictures/434/Axis%20view.jpg

http://linkurealty.com/agent_pictures/434/axis.jpg

Cool renditions, Axis breaks ground soon right?? Wasn't it this Spring??

i'm trying to figure out the same thing, street. i've seen a bunch of places saying it breaks ground winter '05, but that can't be right. i doubt they'd be advertising for it this early if they were a year away from construction.

so who's got a firm & reliable date?

i've heard may,april or march but the site hasn't been touched the other day i did see someone surveying it.but the have a long way to go becuase theres probably a good 100- 150 trees

i'm trying to figure out the same thing, street. i've seen a bunch of places saying it breaks ground winter '05, but that can't be right. i doubt they'd be advertising for it this early if they were a year away from construction.

so who's got a firm & reliable date?

The Star Lofts on the bay started advertising like 2 and a half years before breaking ground. The "Baywalk" or whatever its called now in North Bay Village went on sale like 3 years ago and is just now breaking ground. Thats why I'm still amazed Blue went up so fast, it was announced to topped off in about a year and a half. Carbonnel was quicker than that.

Axis is supposed to break this spring 05... they did clear most of the tress from tha land already but their is still a few. i believe it will break ground when stated spring 05.

Wow. I like Axis, it's glassy and sleek and not too beachy looking. It looks short though, compared to Espirito Santo, so it's gotta be around 20 stories right? Exactly how tall is it?

it does look short its supposed be like over 30 stories and compared to the vue which is only around 420 feet, these towers dont look to even bee 400 footers but w/e at least it gives density

but what about the groundbreaking of infintiy

Axis is either 39 or 40 stories (heard both), and is supposed to break ground in March.

www.buymiaminow.com has them has 38 stories and on MiamiBallinBoi's last rendering I counted like 39 floors, so it should be about the same size has ESP, but whoever did this rendering is just a bad photoshopper and did the proportions wrong..

http://linkurealty.com/agent_pictures/434/Axis%20view.jpg

But your right they will add more density and they are very modern looking..

Axis is supposed to break this spring 05... they did clear most of the tress from tha land already but their is still a few. i believe it will break ground when stated spring 05.


they haven't touche3d a tree on that site

they haven't touche3d a tree on that site
Uptown-Midtown :) , I went by there Friday at the AXIS Site, their Clearing the Land for a TRAILER to be Installed Next Month FEBRUARY, 2005, TRUE :) There's MANY TREES at the Site and they didn't knock them DOWN YET, but its going to happen SOON :) , But For Ground BREAKING , its got to be Around Summer or FALL, 2005. :cheers:

^na, cuz esp is like 36 floors but has alot of office space to make it tall almost 500 feet, these are probably like 10 foot ceilings, maybe just below 400 feet

well they did clear the fence from the axis site thats a start

The Star Lofts on the bay started advertising like 2 and a half years before breaking ground. The "Baywalk" or whatever its called now in North Bay Village went on sale like 3 years ago and is just now breaking ground. Thats why I'm still amazed Blue went up so fast, it was announced to topped off in about a year and a half. Carbonnel was quicker than that.

blue i can understand cause it was backed by a guy with VERY deep pockets.
but you're right, though. i guess it's not that uncommon for a developer to start advertising a project a year or more in advance. these days, though, i expect to hear about a project, see advertising within a few months, expect to hear a week or two later that it sold out right away & then expect to hear a construction date set for a few months or so after that.


seems like developers aren't having to sweat out construction financing anymore & are able to go from city approval to ground breaking without any setbacks, although that's probably just my perception. but doesn't it seem like there's a money tree that all these developers are shaking to fund their projects? it's amazing how much is being built & how fast they're coming out of the ground.

yeah that money tree ur talking about is all of those who end up with units in these projects... average is like $350 per sq ft. thats crazy, so they think man i took 150 million from the bank and sold out in one day at 320 million why not build another. it will only get worse...

CHUCK ITS NOW YOUR TURN TO SPEAK ABOUT THE INTREST RATES HOLDING.....!!!!

yeah that money tree ur talking about is all of those who end up with units in these projects... average is like $350 per sq ft. thats crazy, so they think man i took 150 million from the bank and sold out in one day at 320 million why not build another. it will only get worse...
Worse or better depending on your participation. How would you like a condo in the Tides on South Beach for $1,200 per square foot? Hopefully, the forum is still going strong and archiving, then we can all look back and laugh (some with joy, some with pain from missed opportunity) that someone thought $350 per square foot was crazy.

January 20, 2005


Dear Brickell Avenue area residents and businesses:

The Florida Department of Transportation District VI will conduct a kick off information meeting to discuss the Project Development and Environment (PD&E) Study far the proposed improvements to SR5/Brickell Avenue from S of S.E. 25th Road to S.E. 4th Street in Miami-Dade County. The public meeting will be held on Thursday, February 10, 2005— 6:00 p.m. at the First Presbyterian Church of Miami, located at 609 Brickell Avenue, Miami, Florida.

The subject study will recommend preliminary design improvements based on an analysis of the Brickell corridor. The Study will recommend safety, operational and aesthetic improvements based on an analysis of the existing conditions, typical sections, traffic patterns, right-of-way requirements, environmental impacts, and the cost to implement the improvements.

This meeting is held as an information exchange with the general public with special interests in the Brickell Avenue corridor. Graphic displays will be showcased at this meeting and Deportment representatives will be on hand during the meeting to informally discuss the project and answer questions. Residents are encouraged to attend and review this important transportation improvement study.

Anyone needing special accommodations under the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 should contact Andre W. Goins, by telephone at 305-470-5208 or by writing FDOT — District VI, Professional Services Unit— 1000 NW 11th Avenue, Room 6202-B, Miami, FL 33172, email:
andre.ggjns@dot.state.fl.us, at least seven 7 days prior to the information workshop.

KICK OFF MEETING INFORMATION
DATE: Thursday, February 10, 2005
TIME: 6:00 — 8:00 p.m.
PLACE: First Presbyterian Church of Miami
(Social Hall Behind the Sanctuary)
609 Brickell Avenue, Miami, FL

For additional information about this project, please contact:
Andre W. Goins, P.E., FDOT Project Manager
1305) 470-5208 email: andre.goins@dot.state.fl.us


andre.golns@dot.sfate.tl.us

Worse or better depending on your participation. How would you like a condo in the Tides on South Beach for $1,200 per square foot? Hopefully, the forum is still going strong and archiving, then we can all look back and laugh (some with joy, some with pain from missed opportunity) that someone thought $350 per square foot was crazy.


$350 per square foot is crazy. it may be a "value" compared to outrageous prices like $1,200 a square foot, but it's still pretty damn expensive. at least for the average person, anyway.

$350 per square foot is crazy. it may be a "value" compared to outrageous prices like $1,200 a square foot, but it's still pretty damn expensive. at least for the average person, anyway.For $350 psf, you can get brand new construction, on the 38th floor with water views, close to downtown, low cost of living, great weather, no state or city income tax, 10 minutes to an International Airport, hot nightlife, culture, 24 hour entertainment, transportation, 3 professional sports teams, miles of beaches, several amazing public golf courses, etc. That is value no matter what!!! Tell me where you can have all of those things for less?

thats cool roark,

like whenever were driving around in downtown and my parents see the cranes and new stuff goin on they say, "Who wants to live in downtown" how can they sell out.

i tell them watch youll see, but now ill tell them everything roark just said lool,

but then they argue u can still got the beaches and downtown and all that stuff if u live in the suburbs and drive.

and this is me 2 them :bash: loool

theyll see whats up with downtown in a couple years lool, and ill get the last laugh :cheers:

ROARK DONT GET ME WRONG I AM ONE OF THOSE IDIOTS WHO HAVE HELPED SUPPORT THIS MADNESS OF DEVELOPERS IN THE PRECONSTRUCTION PHASE. I BOUGHT INTO 500BRICKELL AND AXIS AT BRICKELL VILLAGE BUT IM SPEAKING IN TERMS OF THE AVERAGE PERSONS POINT OF VIEW , BECAUSE FOR 350 A SQ FT IN WEST PALM U COULD BUY A 4 BEDROOM HOME KNOW WAT I MEAN.... BUT ALL IN ALL IM VERY EXCITED ABOUT LIVING DOWNTOWN/BRICKELL I JUST DREAM OF THE VALUE RISE IN 5 YEARS WITH ALL THESE PROJECTS. ROARK I UNDERSTAND BUT OTHERS JUST THINK WERE CRAZY!!! :weirdo: :)

Says here CABI is thinking about trying to put a new tower on top of the Parking Garage of the Brickell Bay Tower on Brickell Bay Dr (that loop road around the 4 Seasons).

http://www.miamitodaynews.com/news/050127/story5.shtml

Brickell Bay Tower residents cast wary eye on developer's plan



By Claudio Mendonça
With construction to begin soon on its Everglades on the Bay condos downtown, CABI, a Mexican development company based in Aventura, is planning to erect a 192-unit residential building on Brickell Bay Drive near Southeast 14th Street.
As with the Everglades project, CABI didn't choose vacant land for its Brickell target. CABI leveled a 1926-vintage 17-story hotel on the site this week. The new structure would rise above a parking lot belonging to one of the city's oldest condo buildings.
But that is pending approval of the building's 214 condo owners.
"First we have to see if this is legally possible," said Ted Slack, who lives at Brickell Bay Tower, 1408 Brickell Bay Dr., built in 1964. "All we have is preliminary information. It will take our law firm, Becker & Poliakoff, two weeks to research and come up with conclusions."
The first step, Mr. Slack said, is to find out whether the project would be legal. Then, the developer would have to acquire air rights.
Florida law requires permission of unit owners to significantly change a condo property, Mr. Slack said, and a sale to CABI must be discussed among Brickell Tower's owners. A meeting, he said, should occur in February.
"When someone owns real estate, not only do they own surface of the land but they own below and above as well," said Mr. Slack, a real estate appraiser. "Right now, we have no idea if we want to do it and don't know if legally we could do it."
A spokeswoman for public-relations firm Gordon Reyes, representing CABI, said the firm wants to wait a couple of weeks before commenting on the new development.
"It is a complicated issue," Mr. Slack said. "Constructing a building on top of parking garages is totally novel to me. We were really surprised when we heard about it. Once we have a meeting with owners and once we have the opinion from our lawyers, we will move ahead."

man thats crazy huh thanx for the news dave ! next they will try to build horitontal condos on top of the met 3, wachovia center, and four seasons ___-T-___ yeah like the letter "t" hey maybe ill suggest this to jorge perez

woow cool news, ill be right there to cover it lool comeon get approval! :cheers:

OK folks, it's past time for this thread to go...


Any input on how I go about doing that, without ruining the discussion for you folks?

i guess the same way u did with the cbd thread

OK folks, it's past time for this thread to go...


Any input on how I go about doing that, without ruining the discussion for you folks?
YES JASON :) , Please SAVE the LAST 57 POSTS :) and Moved them to the NEXT THREAD for this ONE, That would be NICE :) , and Yes its been alot here , BUT save the LAST 57 POSTS, Thanks, AGAIN. :cheers:

exactly, leave the last 50 or so, then archive the rest (or w/e u do).. u da man jason

amazin chuck

everytime any1 takes a trip we get some nice aerials, lol, but they always seem to be of brickell, cant some1 vacation somewhere more north so that the tragectory carries the plane over downtown, come on guys, stop being so selfish in ur vacation choices and consider ur ssc brothers

big advertisement in the paper the other day for axis, several pages, u no the usual thing, sat on my desk for a while, then just now i realized something, in one of the pictures in the backround they have the backround and pictures of the boa and bor... and on the bor i noticed a nice tall spire... i wonder if this is what we can expect...

http://img188.exs.cx/img188/7149/borwitspire5ar.jpg

wow cool hopefully thats it

hey that does look nice. question? when developers build their projects they have closings on lower floors usually first right? Like in the icon people are living their already in the lower floors but the higher are still being worked on..... just asking beacuse BOR seems like its comming along fast>

nymby are their any other renderings from the paper u can ploace on here i would like to see those axis shots

true emanual like with four seasons, it was opened but the penthouses were still u/c and higher floors.

when developers build their projects they have closings on lower floors usually first right?Usually, not necessarily. In order for any closings at all, a building must have a temporary certificate of occupancy. In general, that means the common areas and the ingress/egress are safe and in working order. Usually not finished and not pretty, but that is when the building gets the TCO. Closings begin while hallways and elevators and other details are incomplete. This works out well because most residents are improving their "decorator ready" apartments anyway. Flooring guys / tradesman are making noise and banging up the halls and elevators with equiptment for several weeks. Once most residents are on a floor, then they will begin to put on the final coat of paint, put in the carpet/tile in the hallways, and prettying up the place. If you are planning on moving into your pre-construction apartment asap, you should also plan for very dusty and noisy conditions for about 2 months after you move in. That's more information than you asked for, but hopefully that helps someone.

NO ROARK THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR THANKS FOR THE INFO U ANSWERED TO THE "T"

ROARK :) , MIAballinboi :) , JE :) , Anyone KNOW about This TOWER I just found Out ABOUT ??? THE POINTE AT BRICKELL :) , a 42 STORY, 442 FOOT :) Tower to be built next to the FIRE STATION on South Miami Avenue and S.W. 11 street, 1100 South Miami Avenue, With 330 UNITs, :cheers:
I GUESS its Still Pending Approval form the CITY OF MIAMI :) , or Did it JUST get approved, THIS SOUNDS LIKE A WINNER !!!, Another TALL TOWER for BRICKELL :) , GO CRANES, I'm lovin IT !!! :cheers:

wat woow chuck, werent those the miami circle towers or na dat was brickell pointe lol

woow another condo yes!! 400 footer! :cheers:

havent heard but which piece of land is that by, i thought 11 and south miami ave is where the miami flat iron was suppose to be?

The last time they went before the board it was supposed to be 38 stories, it got delayed for a couple of weeks, then when they came back it was 42. Its on the same block as Axis (just to its East), accross the street from the Flatiron site, and just to the north of "Vue".

wait, i thought the flatiron died

Flatiron has a "for sale" sign up.

The Point at Brickell. Anybody know if it passed?

Consideration of a Major Use Special Permit for the Pointe at Brickell project, located at
approximately 1100 South Miami Avenue. (Downtown NET District)
No.: 2005-006
Applicant: Gilberto Pastoriza, Esq., on behalf of Carlos A. Saenz,
Jr., Trustee, and Los Arcos de Brickell Corp. (collective owners)
and Brickell Village Partners, LLC (contract purchaser).
Consideration of a Resolution approving with conditions a Major Use Special Permit pursuant
to Articles 9, 13 and 17 of Zoning Ordinance No. 11000, as amended, the Pointe at Brickell
project, located at approximately 1100 South Miami Avenue, Miami, Florida, to construct a
422-foot, 38-story high mixed use structure to be comprised of approximately 348 total
multifamily residential units with recreational amenities, approximately 15,576 square feet of
retail space, and approximately 364 total parking spaces

yeah i think the faltiorn died cool i think a tower there would really seperate the street nicely in south miami ave

http://img87.exs.cx/img87/1228/takesavillage1xz.jpg

Developer asks for more time to review plan for Sheraton site

By Yeleny Suarez
The Related Group on Tuesday asked the City of Miami to defer for the third time its application to build three high-rise towers on the site of the Sheraton Biscayne Bay hotel, a project it calls the largest ever mounted in Miami.
Related representatives asked the city's Historic and Environmental Preservation Board to delay action until March 5 on its request to develop in an archeological conservation area so it can complete its development plan.
In a previous interview, preservation officer Sarah Eaton said the board must review the project because it is in the archeological conservation area next to the historic Miami Circle.
"The plan is still premature," Related Vice President Bill Thompson said.
The $100 million, 4.7-acre waterfront property Related purchased in December will be developed with three towers - one of 45-48 stories followed by a 52- to 55-story tower and a 55- to 57-story tower, Mr. Thompson said at a Brickell Area Association meeting Jan. 11.
At the Brickell meeting, an agreement was established with Related to preserve what many call the last areas of remaining green space on Brickell. The Brickell family agreed to deed 8,300 feet of Brickell Park next to the Sheraton to Related in exchange for 11,000 feet of bayfront land behind the Sheraton, a site that had been in litigation since 1988. According to the agreement, the park - except for the area deeded to Related - will be transferred to the city with a covenant restricting use to a private park.
Related, one of South Florida's most active developers, purchased the Sheraton property from Massachusetts Mutual Life Insurance. The hotel has 17 floors and 600 rooms.
"The hotel is to remain open for the next six months, and then it will be demolished for groundbreaking this fall or spring," Mr. Thompson said. "A baywalk connecting the area to downtown is also planned to alleviate traffic congestion. This is the largest project ever done in Miami."
Mr. Thompson said a planning application would be submitted soon.

hey thanks for the article great info. if they do create a bay walk to tie in with the cbd river walk, will the walk path be automated to allow boats to pass thorugh???????? :sleepy: :sleepy: :sleepy: :sleepy:

yeah nice articLE BUT wheres the LINK????

Renner, here's the link to the article about the sheraton site:

Every Wednesday/Thursday they update their website with new info.

Miamitodaynews.com: http://www.miamitodaynews.com/news/050203/story6.shtml

thanks

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/wrestlechamp316/7.jpg

this is a shot i took in my last update, just to show it here, nice cranes going up :cheers:

that's a nice shot, ballinboi.

i keep forgetting to post this. the most recent commission agenda (1/27) on the city of miami's website added some nice .pdf files within the main .pdf file with some great info (basically scans of all the legal docs) about each of the approved projects. so now,instead of just reading whether or not a project was approved, you can also check out the renderings & site maps & such. very nice!

here's a skyline shot with 1390 Brickell in it.

http://img230.exs.cx/img230/9597/13903wa.jpg

EDIT: btw, you can check out all the goodies here. (http://www.ci.miami.fl.us/Agendas/Marked/05-01-27.pdf)

damn...I can't wait for 1390 to start...it's such a cool building with all the setbacks and such:D:D

By the way that site lists the new proposed height at 477ft.

^does it? i looked for a height but couldn't find one.

477ft. sounds a little short. how tall is jade again? cause 1390 looks like it's only a hair shorter than jade in the rendering. of course, renderings suck for judging height, we know that. but still, 1390 is gonna be what, 47 or 49 stories? even if it's 47, it should still be taller than 477ft, shouldn't it? i don't know. this is why i don't pay that much attention to heights & #'s. as long as i have a general idea how tall a building will be i usually don't care about the details.

Jade is 500 ft.

i keep forgetting to post this. the most recent commission agenda (1/27) on the city of miami's website added some nice .pdf files within the main .pdf file with some great info (basically scans of all the legal docs) about each of the approved projects. so now,instead of just reading whether or not a project was approved, you can also check out the renderings & site maps & such. very nice!

Qudos to Miami, that is a brilliant idea. Power to the People.

This thread will go to the NASF Archive tonight... I will keep all posts past 500 for the new thread...


Remember, if someone wants to bring pics over from the old thread or whatever, you can go to the archive to see the old thread.

If someone compiles a list and posts in into the new thread, I will even edit the new thread's first post to put the list in... (so it liooks like the Tampa compilation list). This would be very smart for you folks to do IMO.

so you mean just grab all the pics & information for each project that's been posted in this thread, & you'll add it to the very first post in the new thread? i can do that.

will the new thread be up tomorrow, jasonhouse?

Look at how a project is posted about at the beginning of the Tampa thread... There's a rendering/pic or two, the basic building stats, and maybe some basic info, like developer's name and website...

Any little snippet like this created for a project, I will plug into the thread's initial post, so that a proper list can be created... Once the list is created, then it can be very easily transferred from one thread to another, as they get big and must be archived...


I have the server compiling right now, so that I can work on this thread (these huge threads really make the database work for some reason, so it takes time, which is why I do them late at night, when very few forumers are online)

cool pic dave. yup cant wait for 1390 great building, i passed by the sales center last week same o same o lol

one observation i made, right on the north east side of the intersection of se 15 rd and brickell ave,

is an empty lot, pretty big site, that was always advertised as street retail project by fortune international, but as i walked by yesterday the signs are gone, and the site is just empty,???

maybe theyre starting construction soon

oooooorrrrrr

maybe they sold the land to a developer thats gunna build a 50 story tower on it looool, lets hope this is the case!!

it is a pretty big site, which can fit a high rise

theres an infinty II coming soon

^^

I'll be happy to see the first one start up (they've been advertising it forever).

Well i heard that they're waiting for financing,and how come we haven't heard of avenue phase 1

theres an infinty II coming soon

it kills me when you do these drive-by posts. wanna expand on that a little?

link?

sorry your highness,i would of posted the link but i didn't find it a worthy link,its from the hpb board(historic perservation board) and all it said was infinity II 1300 south miami ave. certificate for ground disturbing excavation

When is Infinity slated to start ? thought I'd heard Mar/Apr earlier.

i also heard march but i don't know

sorry your highness,i would of posted the link but i didn't find it a worthy link,its from the hpb board(historic perservation board) and all it said was infinity II 1300 south miami ave. certificate for ground disturbing excavation


that's all you had to say. just give us an idea what you read & where you read it. & if you don't know much about it than say that. i don't think that's too much to ask, is it?

thanks for the info, uptown.

welcome back Midtown

cant wait hope infinity II is true lets first see infinity 1 go up,

i remember in octoboer i spoke with borges the main architect, and im like wats up with it. hes said its going through some permits or some crap.!!

IS IT ME OR HAVE ALL PROJECTS DESIGNED BY BORGES TAKEN FOREVER OR NOT HAPPENED,w/e well i hear that midtown is also going through getting building permitshttp://img124.exs.cx/img124/4633/aol57354ce.jpg

also while i was there i was surprised to see on biscayne this 15 story glass office building like about 10-15 blocks away from blue,i looked real nice
http://img124.exs.cx/img124/9748/aol57362fc.jpg

my aunt works in that ivax building, lol

its a nice building, theyres some really nice ones along biscayne, i especially luv the bacardi buildings... until recently i thought they were a memorial or something, never realizing that it was just an office building

ill try and get some pics

Yes, I also heard another project from Colonial development is in the works right next door to where Infinity is going to be. Spoke to one of the sales people there......and heard that the land right next door was purchased last year........it is mostly vacant except with a bank (Helm?) on the corner where it borders S Miami Ave.

Also heard it was going to be taller than the Infinity which is currently 56 stories.

BTW, Infinity is expected to start construction around late March/early April. Heard that financing is already obtained...and that they were finalizing contracts with the construction company.

Great news ! So Infinity has gone from 52 to 54 to 56 stories now ?!

Yes, I also heard another project from Colonial development is in the works right next door to where Infinity is going to be. Spoke to one of the sales people there......and heard that the land right next door was purchased last year........it is mostly vacant except with a bank (Helm?) on the corner where it borders S Miami Ave.

Also heard it was going to be taller than the Infinity which is currently 56 stories.

BTW, Infinity is expected to start construction around late March/early April. Heard that financing is already obtained...and that they were finalizing contracts with the construction company.

that's great to hear about infinity getting financing in place. even though i hadn't heard anything, i was starting to wonder if infinity was gonna happen. & now we hear that not only is it gonna happen, but it's also gonna have a 2nd, taller phase. that's amazing. i just hope they give it a more interesting design than infinity.

i think we've all heard that summit brickell has been bought & is to be turned from rentals to condos, right? i think it's called vue at brickell now. i also read that the new owners are gonna spruce up the property & give it more night time lighting to make the building stand out more. but i wasn't expecting this:
http://live6.truelook.com/timages/live6/ecodb/ecodb_fourseasons_camera1/imgbuf/buf_605/1107412189209331.jpg

is it me or has the building been repainted cotton candy blue? i'm hoping it's just the lighting or something cause that's an, uh, interesting choice of color.

thats hott!! i like that color looks alot better than white

ya thats hott, cool color different at least

yup infinity 1 should break ground then infinity 2 is in the planning which is a 700 footer!! great news

I agree.....the paint job on Vue at brickell is better than the plain old white it was initially. Although I still hate the building. Hopefully the lighting at night will make it more bareable.

Dale...yes...the Infinity is 56 stories....I counted the number of floors when i saw the detailed plans a few weeks back.

^^WHATS WRONG WITH VUE I LIKE IT,NICE SIMPLE DESIGN

I SURE HOPE THATS PRIMER BECUASE IT LOOKS UGLY

Vue at Brickell was supposed to have a larger box on top, they cut it short and ever since I have disliked the building. Look at the old renderings.

no comment on the colors of vue, but the conversion is soooo nice the lobbies and pool deck are pretty nice. as far as the design, yeh i dont hate it but i dont love it either... i like the building

BREAKING news!!!

800 footer in preliminary phases in brickell, it will be the tallest in brickell!!!

check out the city of miami file febraury edition excel file!!!! :cheers: :cheers:


64 stories 800 feet, called "SMA"

:cheers:

http://www.ci.miami.fl.us/Planning/pages/land_development/LargeScaleDev.asp

this file is very good but also has some hidden stuff, like for park place, it only lists the heigot of phase I in the list but if u look for it, it has the height of phase II, u gotta put the mouse over the project and it says
in the far right in the comments section will tell u.


phase II is 511 feet and 32 stories

ballinboi -

I think it's going to be an office tower. Taller than ESP !

here's the general area where the new sma project would be located (thanks to don pacho for the pic)

http://img152.exs.cx/img152/5422/brickellaerial42bv.jpg

with this, infinity2, axis, the pointe & the rest, this area is really gettin loaded. nice to see west brickell start to grow.

don't forget www.avenuemiami.com which is going to be infront of it and to the right

Thanks, dave.

And Avenue II, at 46 stories, breaks ground next month !

new rendering of premiere towers--site doesn't work yet www.premieretowers.com
<img src="http://img219.exs.cx/img219/1394/highrisebappremiere1ip.jpg" width="192" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us" />

http://img219.exs.cx/img219/1394/highrisebappremiere1ip.jpg

http://southfloridaceo.com/CURRENT-JANFEB05/Art/Highrise-Avenue.jpg

Avenue
LOCATION:
1060 Brickell Avenue
Miami

DEVELOPER:

Intell Management and Investment Company
Gary Barnett, President

Gary Barnett is president of Intell Management and Investment Company, the New York-based firm that developed the swank W Hotel Times Square and is currently developing the highly anticipated InterContinental Boston Harbor condo-hotel project. To develop Avenue, the company has assembled a team of award-winning architects and designers to deliver all of the elements of Miami's urban lifestyle – great design, diverse floor plans and must-have features.

DESCRIPTION:

Every great metropolitan city has its Avenue - the place to see and be seen. In Miami, it's Brickell Avenue - where urban living is now pushed to new heights with the introduction of Avenue, a new 570-unit, mixed-used condominium development. Avenue's amenities include a state-of-the-art fitness center with sumptuous spa treatment rooms, a virtual golf room, a billiards room, a business center, a wine and cigar lounge and a home theater. The pet-friendly building will also feature advanced “Smart Building” technology and high-speed wireless Internet capabilities. Residences range from 570-square-foot studios and lofts to 2,500-square-foot duplex penthouses, with prices from the low $200,000s to more than $1 million. All roads lead to Avenue, the new standard for high-life city living.

Amenities:
Retail and restaurants located on ground floor
Lushly landscaped resort deck featuring temperature-controlled pool and whirlpool, sun deck and recreation spaces
State-of-the-art fitness center including advanced cardiovascular and weight training equipment, sauna, showers and locker rooms
Spa treatment rooms and yoga/aerobics room
Game room with billiard table and home theater offering multimedia capabilities
Business center with conference rooms offering high-speed data, video and voice capabilities
Family room with large children's play area and lounge and party room with catering kitchen accessible from pool deck
Virtual golf room featuring sophisticated indoor golf simulator
Wine/Cigar lounge outfitted with temperature-controlled wine storage cabinets and personal humidors
Mail and package receiving area

CONTACT:

Fortune International
www.AvenueMiami.com / 305-329-1060

NUMBER OF UNITS: 570
SQUARE FOOTAGE: 570 - 2,500
PRICE RANGE: Low $200s to more than $1 million
OPENING DATE: Completion Early 2007

uptown, your pic of premiere towers didn't show so i'm re-posting it for you.
http://img219.exs.cx/img219/1394/highrisebappremiere1ip.jpg

i really like the look of this project in this pic. that's smooth. i also like the way the towers meet the street. very nice. i just got a whole lot more excited about this project!

where'd you find this pic, uptown? is this the only one?

EDIT: i guess your pic is showing, uptown. oh well, it's cool enough to be posted twice. :)

And Avenue II, at 46 stories, breaks ground next month !

i'm glad you posted that, dale, cause i was gonna ask when this was supposed to start.

so the 46 story tower is going up first? is this the one that'll front brickell or is that the shorter one?

anyone know of a project at 600 brickell??


^^dave i got it in this article from southfloridaceo its in my breaking news thread

i'm glad you posted that, dale, cause i was gonna ask when this was supposed to start.

so the 46 story tower is going up first? is this the one that'll front brickell or is that the shorter one?

dave -

www.miamitodaynews.com

The site's not working for me now, but I think it's in the FYI section. Said that the 34 story tower is *already* u/c, with the 46 story starting March.

ooo...I didn't know the premier towers were gonna be built with that cool reflective glass....SCORE!!:D

LOVE Premier Towers !

THE PREMIER TOWERS.. MAN EVEYTIME I COME ON THIS SITE I READ ABOUT A NEW PROJECT. WHERE IS THIS ON SLATED TO BE ???? LOOKS REALLY GOOD!!! ITS CONDOS OR OFFICE AND 600 BRICKELL AVE I HAVENT EVEN HEARD OF ANY CONSIDERATION OF BUYING THIS LOT HAS ANYONE HAVE ANY INFO ON 600 BRICKELL?

Premiere Towers is awesome, whats the exact location? I would go as far as to say its the best project propsed for Brickell.

i highlighted the site in red. it's at the corner s. miami ave (east of the site) & sw 9th st. (north of the site).

& i agree with you, skydive, this could be the most interesting project in brickell.

according to the excel development file (our bible), it's mixed-use with 560 residential units, 46,000 sq. ft. of office space & about 27,000 sq. ft. of retail space. at least one tower is gonna be 579ft. tall & by looking at the rendering it's possible they're both the same height.

can't wait to see more renderings of this one!

http://img219.exs.cx/img219/8425/brickellaerial22gp.jpg

EDIT: thanks again to don pablo for the great pic.

500 Brickell (http://www.500brickellcondo.com) is up & running now with lots of nice eye candy. everyone should definitely check out the video cause there's some nice vr shots of it in the skyline. i tried to get screen captures but for some reason i couldn't.

Cool music too. I had to get my guitar out and jam a bit while watching the video.

yeah, funny that they used moby as their background music. although it's really not that surprising considering he licensed every single track off of that album. can't believe he whored himself out like that, but i guess everyone wants to cash in these days.

i wonder what it costs to use one of his songs for something like this?

i went to the 500 sales opening party tonight... nothing special at all just get free drinks and talk, barely any food no dancers but the building looks nice. u'd figure for a project like this related group would go all out but i guess we'll wait and see for the second party ground-breaking see if it outbeats this one. thanks for the web sfldave. Dave or anyone isnt the everglades on the bay party suppose to be this month and which day and met 3 as well next month? just asking if anyone knows

Can somebody give me a list of miami firms?

new rendering of premiere towers--site doesn't work yet www.premieretowers.com
<img src="http://img219.exs.cx/img219/1394/highrisebappremiere1ip.jpg" width="192" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us" />

http://img219.exs.cx/img219/1394/highrisebappremiere1ip.jpg
Who designed this wonderful structure? Was this ever listed in the Sun-Sentinel or the Miami Herald?

Premiere Towers is awesome, whats the exact location? I would go as far as to say its the best project propsed for Brickell.

This is quite posssibly my favorite Brickell Project so far too!!:D

I believe Bermello, Ajamil & Partners is the architect.

Bermello, Ajamil & Partners is the architect and bap is the developer i believe they are both the same architect/developer

Can somebody give me a list of miami firms?
these are the ones i know,
fullerton diaz
borges associates
arquitectonica
bermello arjamil and partners
bc architects
sieger suarez architectual partnership
luis revuelta-rvlarchitect
kobi karp

Spillis Candela ? Bosch & Sandoval ?

night rendering
http://img30.exs.cx/img30/4035/prehome3lu.th.jpg (http://img30.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img30&image=prehome3lu.jpg)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/enyers/prehome.jpg



:cheers: :cheers:

What's their status ?

i really don't know because theres hardly any info on premiere towers i think that they were originally intended to be rentals,but since the condo market is doing good it might be another condo conversion

^^in the rendition of Premiere towers, is that Mary Brickell Village off to the left???

i'm guessing the building in front is mbv

^ I think so.

miamisunpost.com
$500,000 Miami River Feasibility Study on City Agenda

The Miami River Tunnel is just one of two proposed underwater tunnels in Miami.

By Erik Bojnansky
Editor



An emergency item authorizing the use of $500,000 to study the “feasibility” of an underwater traffic tunnel connecting downtown Miami to Brickell Avenue is on this Thursday’s Miami City Commission agenda.

Estimated to cost $200 million, the Miami River Tunnel is a multi-lane road running below the Miami River along Southwest First Avenue between Southwest Seventh and First streets. The $500,000 study has been earmarked for funding by the countywide People’s Transportation Plan, which is financed by the Miami-Dade voter approved half-percent transit sales tax.

Mary Conroy, director of capital improvements, said the emergency resolution is necessary in order to start the study immediately. Last January the Miami Riverfront project’s approval was contingent on the mixed-use parcel’s pedestal being redesigned to conform to the future traffic tunnel, Conroy said.

Under a proposed “Joint Participation Agreement” with Miami-Dade County, Miami is to “secure consulting services to perform the study.”

“The study will be conducted by one of the 10 firms recently selected and awarded contracts by the city to provide transportation engineering services for any and all major transportation and transit projects in the City of Miami’s Capital Improvement Plan,” stated a city of Miami February 10 agenda summary report.

Reynolds Smith and Hills, a Miami-based planning company, will perform the study, Conroy said.

Reynolds Smith and Hills is responsible for holding public meetings related to the Miami River Tunnel, for coordinating with local governmental entities to ensure design and right of way requirements “are compatible with local public works improvements” and for developing a study “using Computer Aided Drafting and Design (CADD) systems.”

The tunnel is part of a much larger downtown Transportation Master Plan that seeks to alleviate gridlock in Miami’s downtown area. The purpose: to give commuters an alternative to driving through Downtown’s winding bridges and to prepare for additional traffic that thousands of future units will bring.

The Miami River Tunnel is just one of two proposed underwater tunnels in Miami. Among the many items to be funded by the $2.9 billion general obligation bond issue, approved by county voters last November, is $130 million for a seaport tunnel connecting Watson Island to Dodge Island.

So this study is or is not going to delay the Riverfront project ?

^^yea it will delay riverfront(im not sure if it will delay the east or west parcel) atleast 6months,in which after if the location of tunnel is to close to riverfront it may not be built which i find good because i feel that site deserves something better

where are you finding these renderings of the premiere towers, uptown? do they have a website?

ok so its going on the west parcel
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/enyers/improvetransport.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/enyers/prehome.jpg



:cheers: :cheers:


Awesome looking towers. too bad you'll be able to see them from I 95 only with all the buildings and projects going up around it you won't be able to see them from any of the causeways. Anyways I really like these two towers. And they're all glass (well at leats most of Them)

BS YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SEE IT (PREMIER TOWERS) DRIVING DOWN 8TH STREET ENTERING BRICKELL RIGHT NOW THE WASHINGTON MUTUAL BANK IS ALWAYS VISIBLE AT NIGHT WITH ITS WAVING FLAG.

Those are really nice looking buildings, but arent they supposed to be like 57 floors? Is it just me or do they look shorter than that in the picture?

579 ft.

look pretty short... but definetly one of brickells finest if they get done

BOR ALMOST TOPPED OUT
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/enyers/1107412189836680.jpg

wheres my spire dammit

^^in the rendition of Premiere towers, is that Mary Brickell Village off to the left???
NO STREET :) , That's THE 30 -story World Trade Center Tower With a Japan and USA FLAGS on top, its been there for about 20 Years JUst EAST of the METRORAIL LINE in Brickell. :cheers:

street, if you're talking about the low-rise building that's in front of the premiere towers, then, yeah, that's mbv. if you're talking about the taller tower, then what chuck said.

cool, i figured out how to get some screen captures from the 500 brickell video.

http://img154.exs.cx/img154/7648/500brickell14mf.jpg

http://img154.exs.cx/img154/5066/500brickell29gg.jpg

http://img154.exs.cx/img154/7449/500brickell36tt.jpg

http://img154.exs.cx/img154/2826/500brickell49ms.jpg

http://img154.exs.cx/img154/2339/500brickell54ff.jpg

http://img154.exs.cx/img154/2638/500brickell62pm.jpg

this is gonna be an interesting project. also, i really think that the heights listed on the pdf file are off. at least some are, anyway. according to that, 500 brickell is 523 feet. but if this video is accurate, then it's much closer to or even above 500ft since 701 brickell right across the street is about 450ft. guess we'll find out.

also, according to the pdf, the lot directly south of 500 brickell (600 brickell) is gonna have a 57 story tower. niiiice!

you know, i take it back. now that i look at the pics again, 500 brickell isn't taller than 701 brickell. 423ft. looks about right. not sure why it looked taller before but it's definitely shorter than 701. oh well.

I have to say it looks pretty nice though. Does anyone know if they plan on lighting it up like that? I am really suprised at how much open land there is in that area. Look at all the empty lots in that area.

theres tons of land there, although alot of it is already planned for projects theres still tons, when people say were running out of land its really not true, all of west brickell, including all west of the metrorail and all of park west are still there... we just gotta expand downtown a little bit, we cant keep building everything off of brickell or biscayne, downtowns gotta expand... also, theys a shitload of crappy one and two story shopping malls in downtown that are ready to be torn down to make way for great towers! as long as the thrist is still there, theres plenty of room, just not as conventionally though

this project does look stumpy, but if they light it up like that, and keep the architecture, itll b worth it, id rather had a kik ass shorter building than a crappy taller one, part of the reason im not ecstatic about met 3... just look at espirito santo, would u guys give that up for anything? i think not

Espirito Santo is a landmark of this city. The design and the glass color they used it's extraordinary. That building looks awesome especially at dusk. too bad it wasn't taller.

good pics dave, cant wait for 600 brickell

me too ballinboi, when u think well find out what they got up their sleeve for 600 brickell?

i'm excited because 600 brickell is going to have 260,000 ft of office and condos so it should be a huge building.

have you guys noticed that were not getting anymore all office buildings,but now were getting all these office condo buildings.how do you guys feel about this?

also 600 is only in preliminary approval process so give it atleast 3months

office condos is still offices, i dont see any bad side to office condos...

Im with Nimby on this. I think a mixed use project has a better chance of getting built and a better chance of staying solvent after being built. Heck a person and live and work in the same building (in Minnesota that would work great in winter). If I had a set up like that I would get rid of my car, there is enough in the area to not need it.

yea but it cuts down the height of the building,but it does give it a better chance of being built

Uptown maybe they can build a new Coral Gables high school with mixed classes and residences, it could be 57 stories tall and have school disctrict offices as well. On the ground floor there could be a library and a Gap store lol

for now its great cause it allows us to get some offices in the are without buildings huge office buildings that with the current market would be totally empty... hopefully this will help spark more interest in office downtown and as a result the market will pick up and well get some more buildings like wachovia and boa in there that will define our skyline... who knows maybe even a 1000 footer...

Uptown maybe they can build a new Coral Gables high school with mixed classes and residences, it could be 57 stories tall and have school disctrict offices as well. On the ground floor there could be a library and a Gap store lol

man that would be great imagine having p.e. on the roof playing some b-ball.or maybe some football throw a hail mary and see someone try and catch and fall 600ft .

watever it is just if its built is good,

i guess if the 600 brickell is serious and if they do a review, then it should be in the next report, also these heights arent in stone, maybe sma will go for a height increase or some other towers to get up there,


just imagine when met3 and sma and other tall towers are topped, other proposals come up next door that would tower over them lol

comeon 1000!!!

uptown, good luck building 600 ft in the gables... theyre nimby nazis in that damn city

^^yea the just want to have the biltmore as the tallest,and ballinboi 600 brickell is already reviewed.

ya it is, it reviewed in december 04,

but i mean that well get more info, if it gets reviewed again, if u notice the projects that are highlighted were revised since the last report so well see whats up and new revisions in the march 05 file

heres some good news,

asia on brickell key increased its hegith from the january 05 report, its gonna be 36 stories and 483 feet tall, the tallest on brickell key so far :cheers:

whoa i'm gone a week a we've got another 57 story tower,awesome

anyone know who is the developer

DID SOMEONE TAG.BOR?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/enyers/1107412190649543.jpg

Wow, that up by the roof right? How did they get up there? The elevators aren't installed I assume, except for the temporary service ones that go up the outside. Also notice the grafiti goes beyong the little balcony railing onto a ledge. It was one brave guy doing it.

i don't know if it was done maybe by the contractors or someone else but i find it funny

hahaha, he was probably let in by the construction workers or someone, maybe it was uptown himself lol j/k

prob done by a construction worker, and its off the edge... thats crazy... props to the guy that did it

Can somebody please post a link to the Feb' 05 file? Thanks, and once again congrats on such an awesome find!! :cheers: Now, we don't have to guess on the status and heights of buildings.. I think the City had us in mind when they made this list, hey you never know :) ..

DID SOMEONE TAG.BOR?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/enyers/1107412190649543.jpg
YEP :) , Your RIGHT MIAballinboi :) , That was Uptown-Midtown :) , He walked up the Stairs and Painted that on There, HES da Man !!!, Brave HEART too !!! :cheers:

ha you guys are crazy if you think i'm going to go up 400 ft to tag a bldg anyways i'm not very artistic except when its comes to architecture.and i'm terrible with a spray can and do you know how many years they'll put you in jail for trespassing into a construction site i think its like 10 years and 10,000 fine.you guys are crazy.

Yep :) , Thats UPTOWN-MIDTOWN's Painting on Top of BOA :) , He said it, He can't spell and BAD at spray painting, He did'nt even Have time to Finish what he was trying to put on There, LOL. Uptown-Midtown :) , Even Knew Everyone Could see it from the Herald WEBCAMS :cheers: , So he Tried to Write S.S.C.K. ( Sky Scraper City KID ) :cheers: , But Messed UP on the C part, he thought it was CEEEEEEE !!!, LOL, Got to Love Him :) , hahahahaha. :runaway:

Chuck, we were thinking it was you, seeing as how it's ALL CAPS !

hahahah

Uptown maybe they can build a new Coral Gables high school with mixed classes and residences, it could be 57 stories tall and have school disctrict offices as well. On the ground floor there could be a library and a Gap store lol

That would be a really cool plan.

hmmmm

One Brickell Park, anyone?

http://relatedgroup.com/AdminOLD/_condos/_newcondos/one_brickell_parkbay.jpg

the related group (http://www.relatedgroup.com) updated their website & this is on there. gotta assume this is a preliminary design (probably very preliminary), but it's still cool to see. can't wait for it!

thanks dave can i be the first to say omg

all glass,can i be second two say omg

Man, it's been a slow week.

I was going to say omg but someone else already did. So I will say something like, jeepers Dave that is really flaming. That looks like a big project. Is it three towers?

Man, it's been a slow week.

it never ends, dale. never ends.

i thought this was supposed to be 3 towers, but looks like there's a 4th tower in the rendering. i won't argue if they go with 4 :)

Wow ! You're right about the fourth tower.

Shy little devil, isn't she ?

woow,

cant wait for the specs

r you guys sure that those are four,because to me it looks like the other one is attached to the second one.w/e but if they're its going to cut down the height of the building

yeah, i wondered the same thing, uptown. it's hard to tell from that rendering, so it could go either way.

i really don't like that the towers are rectangles, cause lord knows miami doesn't need anymore of those. but i do like that they've got what looks to be completely glass facades, something that miami needs much more of, imho. so we take the bad with the good & be happy.

those are fuckcin sick! holy shit, i luv it, glass! we have glass! its beautiful... cant wait for more pics, those are amazing

wow that was really fast i guess they are selling already cuz the web page is up and going ! check out the updated www.premieretowers.com
they even have a cool VR tour

One Brickell Park, anyone?

http://relatedgroup.com/AdminOLD/_condos/_newcondos/one_brickell_parkbay.jpg

the related group (http://www.relatedgroup.com) updated their website & this is on there. gotta assume this is a preliminary design (probably very preliminary), but it's still cool to see. can't wait for it!
S.F.Dave :) , ITS Coming to a Brickell :) Area Near you, Its what THE PLAZA ON BRICKELL TWO Condo TOWERS will look Like :cheers: , WELL :) ,Two of the TOWERS, Very Close to THIS PIC, Also the Two Front Towers in the PIC are Exactly HOW they WILL be Build in that ANGLE !!! :cheers:

BUTTTTTT :) , S.F.Dave :) , I could BE a little Wrong, and THAT PIC Could be the FUTURE of the SHERATON HOTEL RESORT's FUTURE :) rendering of the Condos PLANNED there at 501 BRICKELL, ( Did I get that address Correct, LOL.) :cheers:

The VR Tour on the premier towers website is very, very amazing:D:D

^wha?! what premiere towers website? gimme link!

edit: that is, would you be so kind as to provide me with a link to the aforementioned website?

DAVE IT UP THERE www.premieretowers.com AND CHECK OUT THE TOUR AND RENDERINGS

what the hell? i swear i looked that up before & found nothing.

anyway, thanks a lot JE. i've been waiting to see this project for a while now!

I REALLY LIKE HOW THE GARAGE LIGHTS UP LIKE THAT IN THOSE COLORS AND WITH THE ALL GLASS BUILDINGS IT WILL REALLY SET THINGS RIGHT FOR THAT AREA OF BRICKELL. SO NOW WE KNOW THE REASON FOR THE ALL GLASS IS CUZ THEY ARE LIKE MOSTLY SPLIT LOFTS UP TO 52 STORIES HIGH... DOES ANYONE WANT TO GUESS THE HEIGHT ON THESE TWO? NOW TWO BUILDINGS IN BRICKELL WILL ADD COLOR TO THE SKYLINE LIKE THE BOA BUILDING THEY ARE 500 BRICKELL AND THE PREMIERE TOWERS I WONDER WHO COPIED WHOS DESIGN WITH THE GARAGE SCHEME :) :)

when i first saw that side of the garage in the video i was pissed cause it's a just a big, blank, ugly wall. then i saw the night shots & the cool lighting & felt a little better about it. it's gonna be ugly as hell during the day, but should be pretty cool at night.

JE, according to the spreadsheet from the city's website, the towers are gonna be 579ft.

here's a few of the pics from the website:
http://img220.exs.cx/img220/1984/premieretowers53ae.jpg

http://img220.exs.cx/img220/8416/premieretowersnight22ju.jpg

http://img220.exs.cx/img220/8320/premieretowers64jf.jpg

http://img220.exs.cx/img220/8411/premieretowers70af.jpg

btw, i called the sales center today (which is temporarily located in the onyx2 sales center) to see if they had a scale model. i was told that right now they're just doing pre-sales & that they won't be opening up a permanent sales center for public sales til june. the lady i talked to said she didn't know when ground breaking would be but expected it would about 6 months or so after public sales start.

so we won't being seeing this one start to rise til december at the earliest. lets hope the market lasts that long.

south miami ave=a new brickell ave

^agree with uptown

great renderings, these are some kick ass towers

TRUE MIAballinboi :) and Uptown-Midtown :) , 2 of the 50 PLUS TALL TOWERS in the Next 5 YEARS,52 FLOORS EACH at OVER 620 FEET TALL :cheers: , Wow, GO CRANES :) !!!, and S.Miami AVE , ROCKS :) just as MUCH as Brickell AVE, THE PEACHTREE STREETS of the SOUTH of Atlanta, Georgia. :cheers:

what's over 620ft. tall? not the premiere towers. they're listed as being 579ft. in the spreadsheet & just by looking at them in the renderings that's about right.

where do you get your #'s from, chuck?

Premiere Towers could turn out to be Miami's answer to Chicago's Marina City. Chuck and others who have been to the windy city, you'll see what I'm talking about.

Any news on the Plaza?

Great renderings. They look fairly tall in the third pix.

these are amazing towers... and ya uptown, south miami ave is gonna b up with brickell ave and biscayne blvd as the ultimate urban canyons...

that is a great VR tour they have on theyre site... however the award for best video still has to go to 900 biscayne, the video on theyre site is sooooo kik ass..... but this one comes in second

Any news on the Plaza?
YES JZ :) , I was by there Yesterday :cheers: , Its FULL Speed Ahead, this Project is underway SO Fast, Jorge Perez :) , Really wants these two TOWERS Done !!!, Im got this Feeling THE PLAZA on Brickell :) Will be Completed BEFORE Marina Blue :) Condo Tower, Its really Cleared and The Foundation is Going in NOW !!! :cheers:

Its really Cleared and The Foundation is Going in NOW !!!

that's awesome news. the plaza is gonna do wonders for the skyline. the towers themselves aren't anything special, but they're gonna fill in an empty spot in the skyline nicely!

that's awesome news. the plaza is gonna do wonders for the skyline. the towers themselves aren't anything special, but they're gonna fill in an empty spot in the skyline nicely!
YES S.F. Dave :) , Lots of Empty Spots being filled in around the City of Miami during THIS HUGE BOOM !!!, DAVE :) , Talk About EMPTY SPOTS, Have you taken a RIDE Accross the I-395 FROM MIAMI BEACH towards the BLUE CONDO :) ,THEN LOOK SOUTH at the SKYLINE OF DOWNTOWN MIAMI :) , How the ONE MIAMI TOWERS Have Changed the PICTURE of MIAMI :) , with the 4 TOWER Construction Cranes on top of the TWO TOWERS topping them BOTH OUT with those wavy Design Tops :cheers: , and ITS Dense and Bulky the CITY SKYLINE with the ONE MIAMI towers dominating THE VIEW !!! :cheers:

I really like Plaza as well...they'll fill in nicely, and give some height to an area of Brickell where there isn't much:) can't wait till it startss rising!

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$150M Brickell Bay Condo Breaks Ground 80% Pre-Sold
By Marita Thomas
Last updated: February 23, 2005 11:59am

MIAMI-The 49-story 1390 Brickell Bay residential condominium will break ground this summer at that address at a construction cost of $150 million. This is locally based BBB Group’s first--but not its last--South Florida project, Kenneth Baboun, president, tells GlobeSt.com.

The developer just received Miami’s coveted special-use permit, required for all tower construction here. Locally based Fortune International, headed by Edgardo Defortuna, is handling the sales and marketing, and Baboun says the 364 units are more than 80% pre-sold. Delivery is scheduled for spring 2008.

Originally planned as a 39-story tower, the developer and architect Bernard Zyscovich, also based here, added an additional 10 floors. They provide another five floors of two-story lofts to the initial plan, which called for just one floor of the loft-unit configuration. Units range from studios of approximately 537 sf with 131-sf balconies that sell for about $300,000 to a three-bedroom, plus den, loft-style penthouse that sells for $1.4 million. A representative two-bedroom, two-bath unit measures 1,431 sf and has a balcony of up to 451 sf. Two-bedroom penthouses are available beginning at $700,000, Baboun says.

He credits the early pre-sell success to “pent-up demand from Downtown executives and young professionals wanting to live close to their offices. Nearly half of the sales to date are from local residents looking to live in the Brickell area,” he says. Construction of 1390 Brickell Bay called for the demolition of a smaller building on the one-acre parcel located a block from the bay. “This is the most prized area in Miami,” he says, “and there is no land left.”

Building amenities include a heated pool, recreational sun deck, fitness center and spa. Residential units have nine-foot ceilings, city and bay views, balconies, full-size washer and dryer and upscale finishes and fittings.


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^'bout time! :)

i was beginning to think it wasn't gonna happen. i know they changed the FAR & all that, but still, when projects linger without breaking ground for long periods of time, in my mind they become suspect. so this is really good news.

took some pics today:

the emerald & the sail
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i love how close to each other these are.
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solaris
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love those reflections.
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Great pictures

gracias, toucano!

yeah...thanks for the pics..hopefully in a few years we'll see alot more pedestrian action in Brickell!

I think that wave design in te middle of 1390 is gonna contrast greatly with the desing of the Axis project...Nice:)


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With very few Ocean Drive Magazine Advertisements and not a single billboard...Avenue broke ground today.
In all my years of real estate, this is the fastest that any project has been launched in Miami. The developer was taking friends and family reservations at the end of November, public sales began the begining of December with purchase agreements and the first 10% due. The official groundbreaking was today, and the second 10% was due. 3 months. Amazing. 38 story west tower sold out with 20% deposits hard, and only a few left in the 45 story tower.
That's really astounding...500+ apartments and 3 months...Even Related has a few ads in the paper leading up to what people think are the opening sales day.
Mayor Diaz, Commissioner Winton, Edgardo DeFortuna, and the Intel Management Principals were there with the golden shovels.
You could see the Hot Air Balloon going up on the site from I-95!!
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As you can see from the photo...Avenue is a reasonable commute from Mellon Bank, Colonial Bank, Greenburg Taurig, or any of a number of office towers. You better believe there will be pedestrian traffic in a couple years...also, out the back door of Avenue is the 10th Street Promenade Metromover station. If you aren't on the water...this is the next best thing.

thanks for the pics on the progress of the Emerald & Sail projects Dave. After 1390 Brickell rises across the way this street will definetly have a canyon effect.
Roark thanks for the great news on Avenue that really was quick!

YEs thank you so much....you guys are such valuable memebers to the forums...I'm so happy to see Avenue start....the Brickell District is chugging along:D

Which Avenue building will go up first? Is the smaller building the one that fronts Brickell Ave? Will both go up at the same time?

good news, roark. but what's with the balloon ride? is it a marketing thing?

street, the shorter is supposed to be going up first. this one is on SE 1st Ave, just west of brickell. the taller tower will be on brickell.

thanks sfd:)...these are lovely modern building...and what looks to be great street interaction




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I wish Plaza decided to go with design...it's so much more dynamic than the other designs that have been floating around lately....can you imagine the towers below with an all glass exterior...Hot!!


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why is it that relateds projects always take so long,i know plaza started selling more than a year ago and still is only doing foundations.

Good werk guys. Avenue; Plaza; a year from now... my God.

great pics everyone

good news, roark. but what's with the balloon ride? is it a marketing thing?Yeah...a guess...marketing moslty...it was a groundbreaking party.... usually the real estate parties feature body painting and some lame new vodka, this one was pretty refreshing...select buyers/party goers get to go up in a Hot Air Balloon to get a look at the sites!!

great, heres another 400 footer breaking ground,

400 feet exactly, then the next one is 495 feet, great it can join the "almost 500" club lool

New developers take over Miami Riverhouse project
A Miami site slated to house a condominium development has sold for $11.3 million so the former developer can concentrate on another property in the area.

Miami Riverhouse Ltd. bought the land, at 1170 N.W. 11th St., from Seabrook Development Properties, which is retaining an unspecified interest in the property. The site houses a Travel Inn, which Seabrook principals said they will operate until it is demolished.

The last time the land traded hands, it sold for $1.8 million in 1994.

Principals of Miami Riverhouse Ltd. are Lauris Boulanger and Mark Rousso. They are also development partners in projects including 3030 Aventura, Star Lofts and Luna.

Real estate veteran Judah Burstyn, a member of the family that runs Seabrook, said the family sold its primary interest in the Miami Riverhouse project to focus on another development: a 650,000-square-foot, mixed-use project on a two-acre site at 1050 N.W. 14th St., in Miami.

The Burstyn family owns that land, which is adjacent to the new University of Miami Miller School of Medicine Research Center. It currently houses a Days Inn.

Burstyn said her family is assembling a national development team with consultation from Jay Massirman of CB Richard Ellis.

"This project will only add to the booming momentum of the Civic Center District," Burstyn said. "Our newest project will create jobs, residences, and will facilitate the city's request for high-density projects in this highly endorsed employment zone."

The Miami Riverhouse development, which is also in the Civic Center area, already has plans and site approval. Sales are to begin in April.

The 19-story tower is to hold 199 one- and two-bedroom units, as well as one-story flats. Residences are to range from 671 to 1,050 square feet, with prices from $150,000 to the $300,000s.

Amenities are to include a pool, hot tub, tennis courts, fitness and aerobic center, dog park, meditation garden and executive center, along with 24-hour security and guest valet services.

The first and second floors are to include 8,856 square feet of retail space and 12,900 square feet of office space.

bizjournals.com

wow cant wait for that 650,000 sq foot high dense project!

1390 Brickell (http://www.1390brickellbay.com) updated their website. not a whole lot of new stuff on there yet, but there is a shot of the new design.

cool site

miami
office market size-26
vacancy rates in downtown-4th quarter-13.9,3rd- 15.2, 2nd quarter- 14.5
vacancy rate in suburbs--- 4th---------13.4,3rd- 14.4, 2nd--------- 16.3
vacancy rate in metro------4th---------13.5,3rd- 14.6, 2nd --- 15.8

Rent per sq. ft.: $23.98, 2Q 2004

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hotel occupancy-
2004, the Miami hotel market recorded an average occupancy rate of 74.3%, up 8.8% over last year, while revenue per available room (RevPAR) was $97.55, an increase of 16.5%
http://www.nreionline.com/mag/real_estate_miami_makeover_attracts/

Multifamily:
6.8% vacancy, 1Q 2004
6% vacancy, 1Q 2003
Rent per unit: $905, 1Q 2004
Source: Reis Inc.

Retail:
4.4% vacancy, 1Q 2004
4.9% vacancy, 1Q 2003
Rent per sq. ft.: $18.25, 1Q 2004
Source: Reis Inc.

Industrial (Miami-Dade County):
7.4% vacancy, 2Q 2004
8.3% vacancy, 2Q 2003
Rent per sq. ft.: $5.82, 2Q 2004
Source: CB Richard Ellis