This thread is part II...



The origional has been archived here...

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=160736

I just got caught up on reading all the posts & read this one from RX:

Consideration of a Major Use Special Permit for The Loft 2 Project located at approximately 133 NE 2nd Avenue, 226 NE 2nd Street and 236 NE 2nd Street. No.: 2004-073 Applicant: Gloria M. Velazquez, on behalf of TRG-Downtown Loft II, Ltd. contract purchaser and Rafael Kapustin, Trustee,
owner. Consideration of a Resolution approving with conditions a Major Use Special Permit pursuant to Articles 13 and 17 of Zoning Ordinance No. 11000, as amended, the The Loft 2 Project located at approximately 133 NE 2nd Avenue, 226 NE 2nd Street and 236 NE 2nd Street, Miami, Florida, to construct a 433-foot, 35-story high mixed use structure to be comprised of 496 total multifamily residential units with recreational amenities, approximately 4,675 square feet of retail, with up to 500 parking spaces to be provided in the City of Miami Parking Garage No. 3, located at 190 NE 3rd Street.

I was not aware that this property was going to have retail space?

Great the site is up and running again, I was miserable without it lol.
I was checking the skyscraperpage.com site and I saw the have updated their hole info on Miami.

great point bhk i was using urbanplanet and skyscraperpage








yea i got number 500post

Hold on did I miss something?? What posts were deleted??

Well, anyway good news on those twin 50- story towers. Man Downtown Miami(especially Biscayne) is gonna be DENSE!!

Let us know if you find some renderings, man.

damn well i had 500 post on the central bus. district thread but now i have 501 what 50 story building are you talking about

oh you meant the one at 330 biscayne

EVERYONE :) , I'm Back and read all the Thread here before it GOES. AND
JASON :) Thanks for Leaving it here for a few more Days to read it after my vacation. THANKS All the MEN :) and Any Women :) Out there FOR THE GREAT INFO here :) in this GREAT THREAD, Its Going to be MISSED. :cheers: CHICAGO was GREAT , But I ratther LIVE IN MIAMI !!! :cheers:

Chi-town, place of my birth. See CHUCK, how Miami has the geography to best Chicago with the right developments in the right areas. Miami-Miami Beach can really tighten the screws if these projects keep rolling in and change these neighborhoods. BUT, the MARLINS need a downtown stadium. I'm going to start a new thread reflecting same. :)

man the marlins can go to las vegas if they want,theres no way that mlb is going to leave south florida without a team meaning that if the marlins left,mlb would probably relocate another team here.

but with that said thats what l.a said when the nfl raiders or was it the rams left la now they don't have a team and the nfl doesn't really care

Chi-town, place of my birth. See CHUCK, how Miami has the geography to best Chicago with the right developments in the right areas. Miami-Miami Beach can really tighten the screws if these projects keep rolling in and change these neighborhoods. BUT, the MARLINS need a downtown stadium. I'm going to start a new thread reflecting same. :)
TRUE JZ :) , Chicago is " MY KIND OF TOWN, Chicago IS ", And MIAMI :) is NEXT in Line !!! :cheers:
Don't Worry , Be Happy, :) , THE MIAMI MARLINS Stadium WILL be a REALITY, and it will be DONE in 2007, IT might BE LATE and around Summer of 2007, BUT it WILL be DONE in MIAMI just Southwest of the ORANGE BOWL, Its Going to Happen, And I know Manny Diaz will MAKE it Happen , HERE !!!
Chicago was Great, I LOVE the Water PLACE TOWERS the two of them with the Round Parking Garages at the Bottom Floors, LOOKS AWESOME. There's ALSO a NEW Downtown McDonalds with the HUGE GOLDEN Arches being BUILT next to the RAIN FOREST CAFE , and the SEARS TOWER WAS Great, Went to the TOP and it was all FOG, BUT I was There at the TOP, WILD and WINDY, YES, Chicago , Is My Kind Of town. :cheers:

TRUE JZ :) , Chicago is " MY KIND OF TOWN, Chicago IS ", And MIAMI :) is NEXT in Line !!! :cheers:
Don't Worry , Be Happy, :) , THE MIAMI MARLINS Stadium WILL be a REALITY, and it will be DONE in 2007, IT might BE LATE and around Summer of 2007, BUT it WILL be DONE in MIAMI just Southwest of the ORANGE BOWL, Its Going to Happen, And I know Manny Diaz will MAKE it Happen , HERE !!!
Chicago was Great, I LOVE the Water PLACE TOWERS the two of them with the Round Parking Garages at the Bottom Floors, LOOKS AWESOME. There's ALSO a NEW Downtown McDonalds with the HUGE GOLDEN Arches being BUILT next to the RAIN FOREST CAFE , and the SEARS TOWER WAS Great, Went to the TOP and it was all FOG, BUT I was There at the TOP, WILD and WINDY, YES, Chicago , Is My Kind Of town. :cheers:

Yeah, Chicago is awesome! I went a couple of weeks ago, I visit there a lot. Did you go to the new downtown park? I missed it because I did not think it was what it really is. My uncle mentioned it to me when I got back, so next time I will surely make it a point to go.
I wish downtown Miami will be as nice as downtown Chicago. We need to bring those nice retailers in here. I hope once they see the new skyline they all jump on the bandwagon and start opening up in the area.

CHUCK, you're talking about Marina City, the twin corn-cob looking apartment towers (60 stories) (Bertrand Goldberg) whose bottom twenty levels are parking, right? Or, are you talking about the John Hancock Center's external cylindrical six story parking ramp on its southeastern corner across the street from the Water Tower Place?

Either way, all of those structures are awesome. But, I am no longer a Windy City loyalist.

TRUE, Miami needs downtown retail. No BS retail. REAL retail, no exceptions. Retail begets retail. 1976, Water Tower Place with Marshall Field's opened with Lord & Taylor. I. Magnin was across the street. Then, in mid eighties, Neiman's a couple blocks down. Late eighties saw Bloomingdales at 900 N. Mich. Ave., Saks at Chicago Place, Crate & Barrell down the street, and others. It's an evolution.

Miami's Retail Evolution needs to take the FIRST STEP. Bayside is a cheesy Jax Landing clone (or vice versa). The MET Miami retail proposal is CHEESE. Its a bunch of BS. Its a waste of real estate. Miami needs the Water Tower Place. The Merrick Park mall, if held off for 5 years, could have been built in downtown as part of this boom with a little international flair in its design. Unless the Miami market is big enough to handle Merrick in the Gables and another mall in downtown.

Miami needs a mall building connected to METROMOVER kind of the way it connects to BOA. it needs to tear down Bayside. Miami has outgrown it. Time for the international big time retail mixed use center. Seriously. Bayside is a joke. Ft.L has Las Olas. Worth Ave. in Palm Beach. Miami ain't got shite, except at malls away from downtown, not that those malls suck... they don't.

METROMOVER is such a blessing. Atl. and Cinci. have skywalks connecting buildings together (I think Minneapolis too). Miami has METROMOVER. The city need to add and incorporate MORE innovation.

JZ :) , Thanks, Thats the ONE, MARINA CITY :) , Very nice and TALL, right next to the River canal, accross from S. WACKER DRIVE, wow , So many Buildings THERE Under Construction in that Area of Chicago. Every Block you drive around in the CITY there's a Tower Construction Crane Building a Tower on a Huge City Block. Its almost like MIAMI ,Under Construction. :cheers:

The Loft III??? Anybody?

have you heard something, brickell?

i, myself, haven't heard anything about a 3rd phase.

loft 3 havent heard.. but i want to hear more about the BAYSIDE PLAZA 330 biscayne. and JZ i think ur right as well we really dont have and good retail malls except aventura or dadeland but thats not downtown. even though we have outgrown bayside i think it should stay , it is part of miami culture spanish music with island foods. its a tourist place to be.

Loft 3 in approval process
Posted on Tue, Dec. 14, 2004

OTHER PROJECTS

In addition to the Sheraton Biscayne Bay property, Related Group of Florida has big plans at these downtown Miami and Brickell Avenue locations:

• One Miami: 315-335 S. Biscayne Blvd., 900 units, under construction

• Lofts Downtown: 234 NE Third St., 200 units, under construction

• Lofts II: 133 NE Second Ave., 500 units, break ground in January

• The Plaza: 851 and 901 Brickell Ave., 1000 units, break ground in January

• 50 Biscayne: 50 Biscayne Blvd., 550 units, break ground in March

• 500 Brickell: 500 Brickell Ave., 630 units, break ground in June-July

• Lofts III: 201 NE Second Ave., 500 units, in approval process

• Mercy Hospital property: 300 units, in approval process

good job renner

update plaza has a heartbeat,today i saw what looked to me like a red foundation crany thing on site

Yeah, I heard that Plaza might start before the end of the year.

great news rennar, !

Yes that's the article i saw. I thought it strange that we would hear about it first like that. I like I and II, through should be good.

If Loft I is 23 stories and Loft II 35 stories then (do the math) Loft III should be 47 stories.

And Loft IV will be 59 stories and Loft V... :)

Chicago's Water Tower is incredible. Millennium Partners had a proposal for upmarket shopping on the Miami River on the site between Brickell on the River and the Miami Ave bridge and continuing South for about 3 blocks and adding another Movie theater component. Sadly, the Merrick Park project flopped, and market conditions changed in their view. To exemplify "flop", Bal Harbour shops sells $1,350 worth of merchandise per square foot (tops in the United States), Merrick Park is around $450. It would be great to have a Water Tower type project in the downtown area, and it wouldn't surprise me to see a proposal in the next year. Supposedly, Sopher's plan for the Miami Arena was to do just that. As for Bayside, that place is a stalwart! If you haven't been there in a while, take a boat and and dock there for a bite to eat. That place is CONSISTENTLY busy day and night. Apart from the cheesiness of the lizard wranglers with Polaroids, there is a great vibe and mucho dinero being spent there. It has got to be one of downtown Miami's success stories. Tourists love it, and it makes a great guilty pleasure for locals!! :) Of course, I only go there for the chicken wings.

I agree. you're right. It's just that the MetMiami guys are going in the direction of Bayside with their retail component marketing it as if it will be the next Rockefeller Center/Time Square. Not even close. That's why I said to get rid of bayside b/c of the influence it's had on downtown- too festive and not enough on the cha-ching side of retail.

Too bad about Merrick Park. I think Merrick is suffering b/c noone knows its there. It took me a while to find it off of US1 last year when I was last there. I think it only caters to locals in the Gables and Grove area. Bal Harbour has geography on its side.

A 'water tower place' mixed use center would transform downtown into an extremely progressive downtown- hope they tear down miamiarena and do something. But, they need a designated retail corridor street.

Cities with most construction: Either I read it here or somewhere else, but, the US cities with the most construction (maybe residential only?) are No. 1 NYC, No. 2 Miami, No. 3 Chicago, and I think Vegas is in the next spot or two. Pretty interesting

its downtown every street is retail

I agree. you're right. It's just that the MetMiami guys are going in the direction of Bayside with their retail component marketing it as if it will be the next Rockefeller Center/Time Square. Not even close. That's why I said to get rid of bayside b/c of the influence it's had on downtown- too festive and not enough on the cha-ching side of retail.

Too bad about Merrick Park. I think Merrick is suffering b/c noone knows its there. It took me a while to find it off of US1 last year when I was last there. I think it only caters to locals in the Gables and Grove area. Bal Harbour has geography on its side.

A 'water tower place' mixed use center would transform downtown into an extremely progressive downtown- hope they tear down miamiarena and do something. But, they need a designated retail corridor street.


oh trust me i know why merrick park sucks,i go to coral gables high which is right across from it and most students hate merrick park ,even the rich kids hate it.you wanna know why,they pretty much discriminate and prohibit kids from the high school to even go in there. everything they sell is expensive as hell and there not kid friendly at all,which i find stupid because dolphin mall is oriented towards kids and teens thats why its so packed friday and saturday.as much as people think women shop trust me teens shop more and its in every malls interest to have either a movie theater or atleast somewhere where teens feel comfortable to chill.which is why dadeland,aventura,dolphin and sunset were successful

merrick park is supposed to be upscale on the scale of bal harbour. they could care less if the teens want to go there or not. teens, for all the hanging around they do, spend very little comparetively.

Add to that 'discrimination' is not necessarily bad.

Thats why Sunset Place is failing so miserably. All the teens hang out there but never buy anything (except for at Virgin, the movies, and Gameworks). And with all the teens there, the people who do want to actually purchase things don't go. Merrick park is struggling because it has too much competition. In a row on US-1 every couple of miles you have the Falls, Dadeland, Sunset Place, Merrick Park and Cocowalk.

oh trust me i know why merrick park sucks,i go to coral gables high which is right across from it and most students hate merrick park ,even the rich kids hate it.you wanna know why,they pretty much discriminate and prohibit kids from the high school to even go in there. everything they sell is expensive as hell and there not kid friendly at all,which i find stupid because dolphin mall is oriented towards kids and teens thats why its so packed friday and saturday.as much as people think women shop trust me teens shop more and its in every malls interest to have either a movie theater or atleast somewhere where teens feel comfortable to chill.which is why dadeland,aventura,dolphin and sunset were successful


I’d Like to know the last time you bought anything at Tiffany and Co., Burberry, Hugo Boss, Neiman Marcus, Nordstrom, Jimmy Choo, etc.

Teens spend more than adults is the most absurd thing anyone has ever said, although yes the teenage market in America is a formidable one that should not be ignored, Merrick Park is an Upscale shopping mall, not a hang-out for the kids of Sunset Place or Dolphin mall. I do also agree that discrimination against kids hanging out in Merrick Park is a good thing to keep the place looking as good as it does now as well as keep its appeal to the upper echelon of spenders in Miami.

I think the main reason Merrick is not as successful, is b/c of the location. You can't see it from US1. Everyone sees Bal Harbour and Dadeland. Not sure about The Falls- never been there but I think they got a Bloomingdales.

Yeah, Sunset Place and Dolphin Mall are apples and oranges to Merrick Park. Teens are like wasps at Sunset. they're everywhere in swarms.

They should build some mid-rise housing across from Merrick

Retail corridor- my definition is this: see 5th Avenue and Michigan Ave. and Wilshire blvd. Now, being realistic, you can't just build sidewalk accessible stores like Jimmy Choo, RL, Gucci, Saks, Crate & Barrel, Sony, etc... before you get constant foot traffic. Chicken and the egg.

Miami needs a Water Tower Place first. Miami also needs a new large convention hotel as well, with at least 250,000 sq. ft. of expo space.

there's a lot of pieces to the puzzle. downtown residential is one piece.

Seems to me that downtown Miami is retailing in the best way: block-by-block, retail being incorporated into the ground floors of all the major projects.

^^I agree with Dale

Thats why Sunset Place is failing so miserably. All the teens hang out there but never buy anything (except for at Virgin, the movies, and Gameworks). And with all the teens there, the people who do want to actually purchase things don't go. Merrick park is struggling because it has too much competition. In a row on US-1 every couple of miles you have the Falls, Dadeland, Sunset Place, Merrick Park and Cocowalk.


thats crap sunset is failing because all the violence thats happened there,which was not done by teens. i really disagree that teens don't shop because ever monday you here all the girls talking about what they bought during the weekend and all the guys talking about there new shoes or jersey. and whoever said that teens don't buy at burberry,coach,neiman marcus yea right thats bullcrap all the girls have burberry perfume and coach bags and buy there shirts at neiman marcus.dave have you ever been to dolphin and gone around lookin at the stores most are full with teens,they may not buy anything but they tell they're parents to buy it for them. i do understand that merrick park is an upscale place but every mall should have stores like footlocker,disney,movie theater,gamestore,abercormbie and fitch.merrick park can be an upscale mall even if it has one or two things that appeal to the younger people.so in my opinion merrick park could and should do a better job at attracting younger and more diversed clientel

It'd be nice to see Coral Gables Miracle Mile return to it's high end roots.

crane at ten museum or is is 900,im not sure but i think its 10mus.

http://img87.exs.cx/img87/760/9001hw.jpg
http://img70.exs.cx/img70/3266/9010pv.jpg

yeah, that's the 10 museum site. not sure what crate you're seeing, but there's a ton of activity at that site. won't be long before it starts coming out of the ground.

can't wait!

theres a huge blue crane

theres a huge blue crane
Uptown-Midtown :) , GET ready for THIS DATE; NOVEMBER 15th, 2005, THERE's 14 HUGE BLUE CRANES in Just DOWNTOWN MIAMI, Another 12 HUGE YELLOW CRANES, and Another 10 HUGE WHITE CRANES in the CITY OF MIAMI Limits. ITS MIAMI Under Construction With OVER 40,000 Construction Workers Driving Down I-95 Towards MIAMI With 4 Construction Men in their Back bed pick-ups with HUGE WALLETS, lol. :cheers:

oops, i read that as crate, not crane.

i say it august and there 26 blue cranes 18 yellow and 10white

2infinity
4axis
2avenue
21390
2plaza
2beacon
2premiere
2 500brickell
2 900 bis
2marinablue
2ten mu
2loft1
2loft2
2 midtown
2midtown
2skyline mary brickell village
2met1
2 50bis
4evegd
2lat
2neover
2ivy
2wind
2ice
2ice 2
2opera

u can also see that stupid gas station on their, that owner must be reading this site and laughing cuz he knows hes a rich man when jorge perez goes and offers him millions to get that outta there loool

cant wait

GO CRANES1
lol chuck now they got big wallets and saying xmas jokes dressed as reindeer?

ok looks like this thread has been taken down, now wheres the link to the old one?

ok looks like this thread has been taken down, now wheres the link to the old one?
MIAballinboi :) , My Friend :) , Its Probably BURNED :bash: in the ARCHIVE ASHES, All those Wonderful PICS gone , It was a GREAT THREAD, But We'll just have to Start again. :cheers:

theres a huge blue crane
TRUE Uptown-Midtown :) , VERY HUGE, lol. :)

but tampa had a link to the old thread and none of the pics would get deleted just in archives, so do the same here, jason!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/kleclerc4/dupont.jpg

Hmmm, Dupont looks better now than it ever did. :)

lol its almost all gone now, great pic street, i saw that yesterday but didnt wanna waste a pic on it we know its gone lol

ding dong the ugly witch is dead

New Pictures.. getting densier..

my bad.. here they are..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/bhk24/Miamidaytime040.jpg




You can see the 2 One miami towers rising on the skyline

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/bhk24/Miamidaytime042.jpg




Carbonell..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/bhk24/Miamidaytime058.jpg




And those 3 ugly, short, dirty... towers that should be demolish. Man that's a nice site for a glass tower (a second Onyx)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/bhk24/Miamidaytime038.jpg

bhk.i agree with you totally,all those old south brickell condos should go

Any chance on that happening any time soon??

south brickell isn't as alluring as brickell,i don't know why?

yeah south brickell needs some good density and height to make it desirable, get those ugly buildings step one, true cuz south brickell is the place for older stuff generally and north where 4 seasons and jade is the schiit, just get a 600 footer or more in south brickell, santa maria is being the lone 500 footer , the southernmost tall tower, then it gets short from there except for the bristol, and the skyline which should have been @ least the height of bristol but isint!

ooh, nice pics again, bhk. that first pic shows a lot of the action on the river. brickell on the river is much more prominent from i-95 then you'd think. i always expect it to be further away, but when i drive by it's right there.

just think how neovertika & latitude are gonna look!

900 Biscayne (http://www.900biscayne.com/) has put up a virtual reality movie with some great shots of the tower in the skyline.

here's a few (small & crappy) screen captures from it:
http://img135.exs.cx/img135/1440/90027dx.jpg

http://img135.exs.cx/img135/368/9003tc.jpg

http://img135.exs.cx/img135/6654/90032gs.jpg

this tower is gonna be massive!

Edit-changed dup. pic.

Man...900 Biscayne looks so nice in that VR tour. That and 10 Museum really take the cake. South Brickell is lame because there is no retail, or community gathering areas. The only people on the sidewalks are jogging or walking a dog, and there little other reason to walk. At the northern end of Brickell, you can walk for a bite to eat or to get a haircut. There are gyms, spas, restaurants, and things to do. As the riverwalk develops there will be an ever better pedestrian energy in the Brickell/Miami Avenue area.

lol true, theyres always people running, walking dogs, or riding bikes along us1 from south brickell to like southeast 15 rd

great vr!:)

hahaha

Hey ya'll!! Great pics and good news on Loft III. I hope it goes at least 40 stories.

Well, anyway I didn't know where to post this but I figured the Central Business District thread would be apropriate. Our world-famous Bank of America Tower aka International Place is one of the nominations for Best Iluminated Skycraper in the Hall of Fame thread. We finally made it past the nomination rounds and we are now doing the official voting!! Go vote, vote, vote!! It's going against buildings like Empire State building, Petronas Towers, Chrysler Building and others. Help BoA become the Best Illuminated Skyscraper in the world!!!:cheers:

Hey one and only Cubanator..post the link....I M Pei had some incredible ideas...and if you don't now how the Bank of America Tower get's red white and blue on the Fourth of July and Blue for Christmas...take the Metromover around town sometime...That tower just has to win, even though I love the Chrysler Building.

aite, i figures the closest thing to the port was downtown, so ill post this here, this was in todays herald and i scanned it, the new cranes r here... look http://img82.exs.cx/img82/2426/cranes0tr.jpg

btw roark, i was takin a friend from outta town around miami, and she was amazed by the bank of america building... shows u how great it is

Hey ya'll!! Great pics and good news on Loft III. I hope it goes at least 40 stories.

Well, anyway I didn't know where to post this but I figured the Central Business District thread would be apropriate. Our world-famous Bank of America Tower aka International Place is one of the nominations for Best Iluminated Skycraper in the Hall of Fame thread. We finally made it past the nomination rounds and we are now doing the official voting!! Go vote, vote, vote!! It's going against buildings like Empire State building, Petronas Towers, Chrysler Building and others. Help BoA become the Best Illuminated Skyscraper in the world!!!:cheers:

I heard Loft III is going to be 47 stories !

hey dale are you serious

Yes, saw it on another thread, can't remember which. There's also going to be a Loft VI apparently.

Heres the best i could get of the port cranes and not to mention our never ending continous growing skyline


i have tons of pics to post asia, loft 3, new brownstone projects near arena
but im still very skeptive of posting on here after the last stunt pulled by
jasonhouse shutting this forum down i dont like to see my work go to waste


http://img113.exs.cx/img113/7744/port6biz29dq.jpg

http://img113.exs.cx/img113/4959/port5biz22qu.jpg

http://img113.exs.cx/img113/5885/port3biz23if.jpg

http://img113.exs.cx/img113/1412/port2biz23py.jpg

Clear View to the other side of the river now that the dupont is almost gone

http://img27.exs.cx/img27/8391/closer1jd.jpg

man, those are some seriously huge cranes.

come on, RX, give up the pics. we've been waiting to see those 3 projects for a while now. i know how you feel about what happened, but it's not worth holding a grudge about.

if nothing else, would you at least consider emailing them to me to take a look at? you'd make my day!

woow those cranes are amazing!! :)

RX, ur da man! :cheers:

4get about what hpn, n please show those pics ull b a hero :)

come on rx post them,please

well rx, u sure beat the hell outta my pic lol

please!!!!!! pics make me happy

RX

Please post any info you have on ASIA. I can't wait to see what this will look like.

ooo...brownstones...you're torturing us, pretty, preeety pleez!

Man you gotta post those pictures!!!

Three projects on the agenda are

lynx a proposed mix-use project south of se 2nd street and west of se 1st street

miami rivertown consisting of three future high-rises to be built at the Mahi auditorium shrine at 1480-1500 nw north river drive and

Paramount park a mixed-use project at 700 biscayne boulevard

ok so that would be right in fron of the arena

rivertown i've seen and it look nice,its 3 different towers

http://img5.exs.cx/img5/9933/jan620050mz.jpg



say hello to the new condo alley

nice..i'm really interested in the lynx development!!

where lynx at

Three projects on the agenda are

lynx a proposed mix-use project south of se 2nd street and west of se 1st street

miami rivertown consisting of three future high-rises to be built at the Mahi auditorium shrine at 1480-1500 nw north river drive and

Paramount park a mixed-use project at 700 biscayne boulevard

wat the hell is the mahi auditorium shrine? sounds historic, are we losing a piece of history here for another generic tower (like everglades)

and wats paramount park, does that mean we got a 5th high rise condo in a row takin up prime skyline visibility on biscayne, shit man, this needs to stop, these condos r takin everything, i mean, i wouldnt give up marina blue for anything, but when we finally get another office boom, and that is wat is REALLY gonna make downtown, theyre gonna have to settle for second rate inland lots, these condos (though God bless em) r taking over everything!

ne1 got ne pictures of any of these projects?

oooohhhhh god here we go again,this reminds me of miami circle.



miami sunpost-

Indian Burial Ground
Seminole Rep. to Miami: Archaeologist Working too Slow on Development Site

“What we are talking about is the excavation of a cemetery and we have no plans to where [the remains are to be relocated].” –W.S. Steele, representative for the Seminole Indian tribe.



By Erik Bojnansky
Editor



The remains of possibly one hundred ancient Native Americans might be buried beneath the ground of a future mixed-use project but work to excavate the bones is going way too slow, a representative of the Seminole Indian tribe complained to Miami’s Historic and Environmental Preservation Board, Monday.

W.S. Steele, a historic preservation officer for the Seminole Tribe’s Ah-Tah-Thi-Ki Museum in Clewiston, said little archaeological work has been done on the site of MetOne, a future $600-million, 40-story mixed-use retail condo near 301 SE 3rd Street, since at least early December 7. Any future delays, Steele said, could create a conflict the tribe wishes to avoid.

“There are real interests of both the [tribal] community and the developer. If Mr. Carr does not move forward [more quickly on the site] a conflict will occur,” Steele said.

Steele referred to Robert Carr, the director of the Archaeological and Historical Conservatory (AHC) and the on-site archaeologist for MetOne. Since work began in September 2003, the remains of possibly 52 individuals, possibly Tequesta Native Americans from 3500 years ago, have been found at MetOne. Steele said there could be as many as 300 other individuals buried at the MetOne site.

“What we are talking about is the excavation of a cemetery and we have no plans to where [the remains are to be relocated],” Steele said. “It is the largest archaeological burial excavation of Tequestas,” he said.

Steele told the HEPB that the reason work was going slow was that Carr’s organization was being spread too thin amongst Miami projects. But Carr, who informed the board that the 13 employees of the AHC were working with at least a dozen projects in Miami alone, said the only reason there was little work being done at the MetOne site was because much of his staff was away during the holidays. He also took issue with Steele’s accusation.

“I think there has to be very definite evidence we can’t do the job,” Carr said. “[Otherwise] it is not fair.”

Carr later clarified that the AHC only has four active sites. The other “eight or ten” projects are to be scheduled later.

But in Tuesday’s meeting alone Carr was the archaeologist of record for three projects on the HEPB agenda: Lynx, a proposed mixed-use project south of SE 2nd Street and west of SE 1st Street; Miami Rivertown, consisting of three future high-rises to be built at the Mahi Auditorium Shrine at 1480-1500 NW North River Drive; and Paramont Park, a mixed-use project at 700 Biscayne Boulevard.

Recently, the state’s Bureau of Archaeological Research ordered that the western portion of the L-shaped site be excavated although that section has hardly been touched, Steele complained. Moreover, a meeting between the bureau, the South Florida Water Management District, the Seminoles and the Miccosukee was delayed because there was still no report from the site.

Carr replied that the delay in the plan’s drafting was due to a redesign in the MetOne project. He also downplayed the chances of there being any clash between the developers (MDM Development Group) and the Seminoles. “They [the developers] are required to get the work done … the conflict shouldn’t happen,” he said.

Since 1989, Miami requires that projects being developed in designated “archaeological conservation areas” retain the services of an on-site archaeologist and, if there is a high-probability of historical remains, to provide an archaeological survey prior to “ground disturbing activity,” said Sarah Eaton, preservation officer for the city of Miami. The Miami River, Biscayne Bay south of Downtown, and portions of Biscayne Boulevard and Little River fall into these conservation areas, Eaton said.

“What I find so interesting is that the City of Miami, so famous for development … has one of the best archaeological preservation laws in the U.S.,” said Carr, who worked for the county as an archaeologist between 1981 and 1999, when he was promoted to director of Miami-Dade’s Historic Preservation Department. “The reason for that is that archaeology in Miami and Dade County is not about stopping development but making sure we have some sort of balance.”

When then-Dade County first created a historic preservation ordinance in 1981, Miami was the first to opt out of it by creating its own historic code in 1982. Miami’s historic preservation code also took into account Florida’s hidden past from the time of the Tequestas, who lived in Florida for thousands of years prior to the arrival of Spanish conquistadors in 1513, to the excavation of Spanish colonial outposts, Seminole villages, U.S. military bases and battle sites and even Miami’s first hotels.

It was Miami’s archaeological code that in the late 1990s allowed for the discovery of the Miami Circle, a 38-foot-wide stone circle between 500 to 2,000 years old that was used by the Tequesta, Eaton said. “A Certificate of Appropriateness for ground disturbing activity was a part of the Major Use Special Permit for the project at what is known today as the Miami Circle,” Eaton stated in an e-mail to the SunPost. “It is because of this requirement that an archaeological survey and monitoring was required for this property. The circle was found during the excavations by the archaeological consultant.”

To preserve the site, the state and Miami-Dade County paid private developer Michael Baumann $26.7 million for the land.

“Miami is a very rich historical area,” said Carr, credited with being a discoverer of the Miami Circle. So is Miami Beach, although that city’s historic preservation codes don’t require archaeological excavations. Carr suspects that the draining of Miami Beach’s swamps in the 1920s covered many of these artifacts. Could hidden evidence of human settlement from hundreds or thousands of years ago be found in Miami Beach? “Oh sure, there are a lot of sites but no one ever looks for them,” he said. “On the east side of Collins, by the dune ridge… If there are any sites that is where they will be.” After all, a lot of Tequesta artifacts and remains have been found in the municipality just north of it. “Surfside at 95th Street is the largest known Tequesta burial site,” Carr said. “Not many people know that.”

In 1985, Carr co-founded the non-profit Archaeological and Historical Conservancy, a “Florida not-for-profit organization dedicated to the investigation and preservation of archaeological sites,” according to the organization’s website. (Carr has been AHC’s full-time director since he retired from the county in 1999.) The AHC has historical and archaeological digs from the Florida-Georgia state line to even various sites in the Bahamas.

But Steele is mainly worried about work being done at MetOne. Ever since a December 2004 HEPB meeting, when it was revealed that as many as 52 individuals were found at the site without any ceramic pottery – an indication that the remains might be over 3500 years old, Steele said – the tribe’s interest in the remains has grown. (The Seminoles consider the Tequestas among their ancestors.) When Steele visited the site on December 6, there was only one person working. On December 27, the tribe did an aerial fly-by over the site and found only one person working. On December 28, Steele said that the city’s archaeologist, Alison Elgart-Berry, told him no one was working at MetOne.

During Tuesday’s board meeting, Elgart-Berry, said two months ago she “raised similar concerns.” “I was also concerned that he didn’t have enough people,” she said.

Carr assured the board that if he felt his organization was stretched to the limit, he would either refuse future work or sub-contract to other archaeologists. “[But] to talk about what may or may not happen is not appropriate,” he said.

Eaton, though, told the board that the HEPB couldn’t tell a developer whom it should hire as an archaeologist.

HEPB member Lourdes Solera urged patience. “All these projects take months and perhaps years to happen.”

Other issues discussed at the HEPB meeting:

*Lynx’s application for “ground disturbing activity” was unanimously approved. Among the conditions: that an archaeological assessment is completed prior to construction, that the city archaeologist be notified of any significant discovery and that a final report be submitted to the archaeologist “documenting the results of this investigation.”

According to a HEPB fact sheet, “there is a historic site (the Fillmore site) associated with the Third Seminole War occupation of Fort Dallas located on the project parcel, and other Fort Dallas-related refuse was found directly south of it.” Used by soldiers from Ft. Dallas in 1849 during the Seminole War, the structure now called “Fort Dallas” was actually constructed in 1844 as slave quarters for a plantation owned by William English. The house was relocated to Lummus Park in 1925, where it still stands today.

“The parcel is located in one of the oldest sections of the modern city. Three buildings were built upon the parcel by 1899,” the HEPB sheet stated. “In the early Twentieth Century, some of Flagler’s worker’s cottages may have been located here, and by 1911, several residences were present in the northern part of the parcel and some warehouses occupied the southern part.” The area was “used for commercial use” by the 1930s and today serves as a parking lot.

*The HEPB unanimously approved an application for “ground disturbing activity” at the Mahi Shrine, pending an archaeological assessment and other conditions similar to Lynx’s.

Currently owned by the Mahi Shriners, the land at 1480-1500 NW North River Drive and the auditorium is contracted to be sold to Miami Riverside Limited, which has plans to build three high-rises on the site, each with 34 floors, said John Borsa, Jr., business manager for the Mahi Auditorium. The Mahi Auditorium, constructed on the site in 1963, will be demolished. “It’s not historic,” he said.

But the site might be pre-historic. “An archaeological survey has never been conducted on the parcel and two recorded prehistoric sites and one unrecorded prehistoric site are located within a one-mile radius of the parcel,” stated a HEPB fact sheet.

*The HEPB approved “ground disturbing activity” for Paramont Park at 700 Biscayne Boulevard. The proposed project will consist of condominiums, retail stores and a hotel. The site was previously developed prior to 1903.

*The HEPB approved the demolition of the burned-out remains of a 1923 house at 4719 N. Miami Avenue in the Buena Vista East Historic District.

Scott Short and Marcello Barba had been rehabilitating the home for the last four years when it mysteriously burned down. Short said he and Barba purchased the abandoned home and invested $300,000 to pay off previous liens in an effort to make the neighborhood better. After the fire, city inspectors imposed liens on the property again. In order to settle the liens, code compliance informed Short that the house would have to be completely demolished.

Fire officials are still investigating but Short told the board “we did find a mattress” that was moved to a part of the room where it wasn’t before. “I did happen to speak to a resident of a neighboring crack house [about the fire],” said Short, who suspected that the house was broken into by drug users and burnt down.

“I am so sorry. You were working so hard. It is a shame it went up [in flames],” Lourdes said.

*The HEPB ordered the owner of a tree-filled lot at 2800 Jefferson Street in Coconut Grove to hire an arborist to ensure that trees not approved to be cut down won’t be harmed by the construction of a single-family home.

Gordon Hecht told the HEPB that he needed to cut down just some of the large oak trees on the lot so he could build his house there. However, neighbors feared that Hecht may destroy more trees than were approved by code compliance. They also wanted Hecht to simply relocate the trees rather than cut them down.

Hecht, who ironically choose the property because of the trees’ presence, said it costs anywhere from $3,000 to $5,000. He also said he would not mind hiring an arborist as long as it wasn’t cost prohibitive. Otherwise, Hecht feared he might have to sell the parcel. “I get a letter every day from developers,” he said, pointing out that prospective buyers were likely to try and get commercial zoning and rip down all of the trees.

Chairman Andy Parrish said investing in an arborist would likely make the property far more valuable. “I have no doubt that [a buyer will likely be] from the old school of development and bulldoze all the trees on the lot and say ‘I didn’t know I couldn’t do that’ and pay a fine,” Parrish said. But Parrish said the time has come to make a stand against the “strip mining” of trees in Coconut Grove.

Hecht will come back before the HEPB with a tree-clearing plan in March.

Comments? Contact the author at erik@miamisunpost.com.

no mahi auditorium is an old auditorium that looks like a convention center,and trust me i rather have the rivertown.

5. Miami Rivertown Approximately 1480-1500 NW North River Drive Application for a Certificate of Appropriateness for ground disturbing activity involving new construction within an Archeological Conservation Area.
6. Lynx Approximately 16 SE 2ndStreet, 60 SE 2ndStreet, 41 SE 3rdStreet, 61 SE 3rdStreet Application for a Certificate of Appropriateness for ground disturbing activity involving new construction within an Archeological Conservation Area.

7. Paramont Park 700 Biscayne Boulevard Application for a Certificate of Appropriateness for ground disturbing activity involving new construction within an Archeological Conservation Area

also of the commisions agenda is this-
Sheraton Biscayne Bay Redevelopment 495 Brickell Avenue Application for a Certificate of Appropriateness for ground disturbing activity involving new construction within an Archeological Conservation Area. (This item was continued from the meeting of November 29, 2004.)
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Boca developer enters Miami with careful plans
Paola Iuspa-Abbott
Now that a Boca Raton developer controls $37 million worth of land at three sites along Miami's Biscayne Boulevard, Park West and Omni areas, he's ready to make at least one move.


Royal Palm Communities unveiled a proposal last week to build a project in the Omni district, with up to 350 luxury units overlooking Biscayne Bay, a few blocks north of the former Omni Mall, said Daniel Kodsi, president and CEO of Royal Palm.

The developer, which has built 4,000 units in Florida, expects to close on the site within a month. The parcel occupies almost a block between Northeast 20th Terrace and 21st Street.

Prices in the area range from $100 to $200 a square foot, depending on proximity to the water, said Thomas Blazejack, principal of appraisal firm Blazejack & Co.

Flex Enterprises in Miami is selling the nearly 2.7 acres, just north of the newly revamped Margaret Pace Park. Royal Palm hired Miami-based Arquitectonica to design the project, called Paramount at Edgewater Square. The 45-story building will be pushed back from the water, conceptual plans show. Ranging from 950 square feet to 1,800 square feet, units would sell for between $350,000 and $1 million.

While Kodsi still has to apply for permits and gain approvals, he plans to restore an old house by the water to be the anchor of a waterfront plaza. At the eastern edge of the square, restaurants and shops will cater to local residents.

The developer will ask the city to extend a bay walk that ends at Margaret Pace Park, Kodsi said.

The Omni area has at least four residential projects under construction or in the permitting process. It also has some existing residential towers.

"It is an established residential community," Kodsi said about the area. "There are about 8,000 residents within walking distance from our site."

But Kodsi isn't planning to rush ahead and develop the other two parcels he owns in the area. He'll wait for the formerly industrial Park West to become more residential, Kodsi said.
He is applying the same strategy for the about 1.6-acre parcel on 700 Biscayne Blvd. The land, across from the AmericanAirlines Arena, is currently used for parking.


"So far, the absorption has been phenomenal," Kodsi said. "But we don't want to oversupply the market. We want to let the area mature, become a residential community."

Royal Palm, now building the 61-unit Esplanade Grande in West Palm Beach, is part of a land-rush wave that started about three years ago. Hoping people will move to the downtown and surrounding neighborhoods, developers and investors spent millions of dollars on vacant land and rundown buildings in Miami.

Three luxury residential towers are being planned on Biscayne Boulevard between Eight and 10th streets. They total 1,216 condominium units, many of which are already sold.

Developer and real estate lawyer Pedro Martin is about to close on a parcel on Ninth Street. The 900 Biscayne Blvd. would be comprised of 500 condo units, some retail and office space, he said.

Unit prices would range from $250,000 to $950,000. Construction could start in January 2005.

The more residential units are built, the better it will be for the market, area developers said.

"You need the synergy of many developments for an area to improve," said Gregg Covin, developer of Ten Museum Park. "That is what happened to South Beach. With new developments the infrastructure improved," and the city got new sidewalks, landscape, lighting and security.

and wats paramount park, does that mean we got a 5th high rise condo in a row takin up prime skyline visibility on biscayne, shit man, this needs to stop, these condos r takin everything, i mean, i wouldnt give up marina blue for anything, but when we finally get another office boom, and that is wat is REALLY gonna make downtown, theyre gonna have to settle for second rate inland lots, these condos (though God bless em) r taking over everything!

ne1 got ne pictures of any of these projects?

Hey I thought this was where Promenade was gonna go. A while back Streetscaper posted some Adobe Reader documents he found about development in Downtown/Overtown, Homestead, South Dade etc.. in the Downtown Miami Project Rundown thread (I think it was on like p.g. 7). In the Downtown/ Overtown adobe document there was something about a Promenade project across the street from American Airlines Arena but it quickly faded from memory because of all the other awesome projects we were buzzing about.The Promenade included plans for a media tower and entertainment district... but don't let me describe it to you read it for yourself!! In fact there are several other projects in this document also..

Downtown/Overtown Revitalization (http://www.doverkohl.com/project_graphic_pages_pfds/Miami%20CRA.pdf)

If anybody knows the deal on these projects or if they died out fill us in.. I'll ask the sales associate for Blue maybe he knows something..

Applicant: Adrienne F. Pardo, on behalf of Royal Palm Miami Holdings, LLC, contract purchaser/owner and Bacardi USA, Inc. Consideration of a Resolution, approving with conditions, a Major Use Special Permit pursuant to Articles 5, 9, 13 and 17 of Zoning Ordinance No. 11000, as amended, for the Paramount at Edgewater Square project located at approximately 317, 341, 345, & 363 NE 20thTerrace; 2040, 2066, & 2072 North Bayshore Drive; 348, 340, & 338 NE 21stStreet; and 2075 Biscayne Boulevard, Miami, Florida, to construct a 562-foot, 47-story high mixed use structure to be comprised of approximately 369 total multifamily residential units with recreational amenities, approximately 45,781 square feet of retail space, and 690 total parking

5. Miami Rivertown Approximately 1480-1500 NW North River Drive Application for a Certificate of Appropriateness for ground disturbing activity involving new construction within an Archeological Conservation Area.
6. Lynx Approximately 16 SE 2ndStreet, 60 SE 2ndStreet, 41 SE 3rdStreet, 61 SE 3rdStreet Application for a Certificate of Appropriateness for ground disturbing activity involving new construction within an Archeological Conservation Area.

7. Paramont Park 700 Biscayne Boulevard Application for a Certificate of Appropriateness for ground disturbing activity involving new construction within an Archeological Conservation Area
UPTOWN-MIDTOWN :) , This Sounds Like an " INDIAN BATTLE :bash: " To me, There's That Many Indians Out there still Protecting THEIR GROUNDS, lol ??? :cheers:

Damn....Metone is such an important site (at the nexus of downtown)...now who knows when construction will begin...hopefully within the next two months!!

Does anyone think the digging is the reason that Met 3 has been moved up ?

The plot thickens.

here are the tequesta settlement map,and the royal palm hotel map,which means that both dupont,and all the mets are going to be delayed and delayed for a while.

http://img34.exs.cx/img34/4849/cirmap6du.gif
http://img34.exs.cx/img34/921/miami20037he.jpg

Urban Bliss: High-End Spas Can Help Spur Quick Sales, Record Prices

By Chad Oppenheim and Meredith Oppenheim

JANUARY 01, 2005 -- Few owners will dispute the fact that offering a high-quality fitness center is all but mandatory today at a luxury multi-housing community. Not having one, or providing an inferior product, makes leasing a major challenge at rental properties and can significantly hamper sales efforts at a condo project.


Oppenheim Architecture + Design and Clinique La Prairie Lifestyle Developers created Ten Museum Park, a resort-like environment in a Miami urban setting, with the intent of integrating all the pleasures one might indulge in while on vacation in a world class resort.
And there's no question that our target audience was drawn to the project's amenities and atmosphere: By offering owners a world-renowned spa and sizzling modern architecture, unprecedented sales prices and optimal returns were achieved.


When Ten Museum Park hit the supposedly saturated Miami market, it pre-sold for $150 per square foot more than similar product in more ideal locations. Even at these high prices, the project sold out in 8 days.



Not surprisingly, considering the success of our Ten Museum Park project, we are applying the same proven formula of combining award-winning architecture and spa amenities at our other developments. Sales prices at our Ice2 ("Ice Squared") project in Miami, for example, have averaged approximately $630 per square foot—far exceeding prices at other leading projects in the area.

Also in the works is a 2.5 million-square-foot project designed in collaboration with the Pei Partnership slated for Downtown Miami. This project will take the concept of combining a luxury spa with cutting-edge architecture to the max: It will comprise 450 condominium units, a 400-key condominium hotel, 80,000 square feet of office space and a 150,000-square-foot multi-story spa/health club with rooftop gardens.

here are the tequesta settlement map,and the royal palm hotel map,which means that both dupont,and all the mets are going to be delayed and delayed for a while.

http://img34.exs.cx/img34/4849/cirmap6du.gif
http://img34.exs.cx/img34/921/miami20037he.jpg

They're still moving awfully slow. Met was announced over two years ago, and MDM projected an early 2004 construction start *even taking into account the necessary excavation*.

uptown, chill with the font size. we can read it.

also, what's the source of this? i've noticed recently that you post a lot of info with no source.

the one about met is from sunpost,and the other one is multihousingnews

DALE :) , Or Anyone :) , Can you Please look at the FOUR SEASONS WEB CAM and ZOOM in to the TOP of the ONE MIAMI East TOWER and Check to see IF that's a TALL SKINNY Palm Tree :) on the WEST end of the Tower for the TOPPING OFF , Check it out NOW,. LOL. :cheers:

i trust ur sources uptown, u dont gotta post em for me


Also in the works is a 2.5 million-square-foot project designed in collaboration with the Pei Partnership slated for Downtown Miami. This project will take the concept of combining a luxury spa with cutting-edge architecture to the max: It will comprise 450 condominium units, a 400-key condominium hotel, 80,000 square feet of office space and a 150,000-square-foot multi-story spa/health club with rooftop gardens. [/COLOR]

is this a new project? any1 got nemore info one this one, 400 condos plus another 400 condo-hotel, sounds big, mite get a nice one outta this one

i trust ur sources uptown, u dont gotta post em for me

you trust his sources so that means he doesn't need to post 'em?

now that's logic!

despite your boy nimby gettin' your back, i'd still appreciate it if you posted sources, uptown.

double post

and wats paramount park, does that mean we got a 5th high rise condo in a row takin up prime skyline visibility on biscayneYeah, Nimby, it's going to take up that skyline on 7th and Biscayne. Blocking the views from your favorite picnic spot. It's a shame, now 400 apartments are going to filled by people that will enjoy great views and pay property taxes, and all the "picnic ers" will have to walk one block over to the waterfront. We've got to put an end to this...

Hey I thought this was where Promenade was gonna go. A while back Streetscaper posted some Adobe Reader documents he found about development in Downtown/Overtown, Homestead, South Dade etc.. in the Downtown Miami Project Rundown thread (I think it was on like p.g. 7). In the Downtown/ Overtown adobe document there was something about a Promenade project across the street from American Airlines Arena but it quickly faded from memory because of all the other awesome projects we were buzzing about.The Promenade included plans for a media tower and entertainment district... but don't let me describe it to you read it for yourself!! In fact there are several other projects in this document also..

Downtown/Overtown Revitalization (http://www.doverkohl.com/project_graphic_pages_pfds/Miami%20CRA.pdf)

If anybody knows the deal on these projects or if they died out fill us in.. I'll ask the sales associate for Blue maybe he knows something..

And that Lynx project is on the spot where the IM Pei (or however its spelled) project was supposed to go.

Ok so putting it all together the Pei project that we had been waiting on is called Lynx, will have 450 condo units plus 400 condo-hotel units (that 850 total), 80,000 sqft of office and a 150000 sqft spa and "will take the concept of combining a luxury spa with cutting-edge architecture to the max". Can't wait to see it.

you trust his sources so that means he doesn't need to post 'em?

now that's logic!

despite your boy nimby gettin' your back, i'd still appreciate it if you posted sources, uptown.


i don't mind posting the source its just i forget to do it at times,guys its not i.m pei its the son and daughter of which have a company called pei partnership and there designing lynx,so don't expected this great building. i believe lynx is going to be two 45-60-story towers both with about10story parking lots and the towers will be triangular shapes.this is what i think they're going to look like.

i'll elaborate after seeing the city commisioners meeting on wed.13.i'll also describe paramount park.

EXCLUSIVE REPORTS
From the October 22, 2004 print edition
Top global architects planning Miami projects
Susan Stabley

Two of the biggest names in architecture are crafting new creations in Miami-Dade County: World-renowned architect Richard Meier of New York and the sons of I.M. Pei are designing works for Lynx Strategic Development, the new sister company to Rodrigo Niño's Prodigy International Development Sales.

Both Meier and the Pei sons would be working with local architects - Kobi Karp and Chad Oppenheim, respectively. The projects are in downtown Miami and Surfside.

Niño said both properties may get flipped or a developer will be brought in to handle the responsibility - and the risk - of construction, from getting the general contractor to securing the financing.

Niño and partner Ian Ludmir have a $22 million contract on a parking lot parcel next to the colorfully lit Bank of America Tower at International Place, formerly known as the CenTrust Tower and designed by I.M. Pei.

Now the sons of the famed Chinese architect have designed a $300 million, mixed-use building for Lynx that has a pair of towers rising from a multi-level platform at South Miami Avenue and Southeast Second Street. Each tower boasts three facades and the unnamed project would house a blend of offices, retail, residences and hotel units under the preliminary designs by Pei Partnership Architects.

"We want very much to contribute something of enduring value," said L.C. (Sandy) Pei, principal of New York City-based Pei Partnership with brother C.C. (Didi) Pei. "We are looking forward to developing with Chad Oppenheim on something that hasn't been done before."

Pei had worked on the former CenTrust building with his father and said the new project is designed as a "city within a city" that respects the iconic tower next door.

"It's intended to be a fragmented composition, sort of an arrangement of buildings that orient themselves to some of the principal views of the city," he said.

The downtown project promises to be a "very high-impact, high-design project with a lot of glass, sort of a signature style fused with a little Pei," Oppenheim said. It could have up to 450 condos, 200 hotel rooms and another 200 condo-hotel units, plus about 80,000 square feet of office space, he said.

Oppenheim noted that one of the reasons he went into architecture was the work of I.M. Pei.

"It's definitely fantastic for me to be considered at that level and work with his sons on an equal basis," he said.
Replacing the Beach House Hotel

Meanwhile, a $170 million, 12-story condominium by Richard Meier & Partners could replace the Beach House Hotel in Surfside formerly owned by the Rubell family. Meier has been recognized with the Pritzker Architecture Prize, one of his industry's highest honors, and his finalist designs for the World Trade Center site. This would be his first project in Miami.

"We look at this as a great honor," Karp said. "It creates an opportunity to bring Miami even further into the international forefront of architecture and design."

The concept for the Beach House is "clean, sleek and modern," Karp said.

Niño and Ludmir are heading a group of investors from Chile, Venezuela and Colombia in a venture called Beach House Property that bought the hotel on Collins Avenue in August for $26.45 million. The Rubell family still operates the hotel and plans to tear down the property are a year away.
Life after Fortune International

Both projects are the brainchild of Niño, Ludmir and Senior VP Jorge Brugo, who is credited with bringing in Meier and the Pei sons. All three had previously worked for Fortune International in Miami. Niño said that Brugo was tapped as a Lynx partner this week.

It was just over a year ago that Niño left his job as VP of development sales at Fortune International and started his own third-party sales organization.

"It was just me with my laptop that I bought at Best Buy with my personal credit card," he said. Quickly, Niño had his first client - one from his former Fortune life - Brickell on the River. Then came Spiaggia in Surfside, Solé on the Ocean in Sunny Isles Beach and Solaris in the Brickell area. Recent projects include Paramount Park on Biscayne Boulevard and the Racquet Club & Marina in North Bay Village, plus redevelopments of South Beach's Roney Palace and Aventura's Bay Club.

Today, he handles a real estate inventory worth $1.5 billion. Prodigy has grown to 32 employees and serves a network of more than 40,000 brokers.

"This surpassed my wildest dreams," Niño said.

Niño believes third-party sales organizations shouldn't get deeply involved in development.

"Maybe I'm a pre-developer," he said. "No, no, I'm just a landlord."
http://southflorida.bizjournals.com/southflorida/stories/2004/10/25/story1.html

Can't wait to see the renderings !

you trust his sources so that means he doesn't need to post 'em?

now that's logic!

despite your boy nimby gettin' your back, i'd still appreciate it if you posted sources, uptown.


not logical, just lazy, if he posted em, i wouldnt go 2 em neways... not my fault im a fat ass, lol, i trust that w/e ne1 posts in this forum is legitament, i make sure that anything i post is, and would appreciate it if my fellow scraper contesours (thats definetly not spelled rite, u get the idea tho) would do the same, makes shit easier


Yeah, Nimby, it's going to take up that skyline on 7th and Biscayne. Blocking the views from your favorite picnic spot. It's a shame, now 400 apartments are going to filled by people that will enjoy great views and pay property taxes, and all the "picnic ers" will have to walk one block over to the waterfront. We've got to put an end to this...


is that sarcasm i sense roark? u mis understood me, i mean that is was takin the space of where we could fit another great building, perhaps a great office tower, with yet again more condos, which many in downtown simply havent been anything special, however not all are, i would give up either of our three on biscayne for any office tower, so hopefully this one will live up to the high standards of this street, but if we get another 50 biscayne, or another met 1, on this amazing site, ill have to shot some1

Sure, I would have liked to have seen the 65 story mixed-use tower. But let's face it; Cousins is risk-averse.

And I think we're going to like 50 Biscayne.

It has to be good...or nimby's gonna shoot someone.

dales the only one who truely understands me...

lol,

wheres those office towers!! the lands getting eating up, the office is our only chance for another 800 footer, cuz face it once met3 is done and passed over 800 plus with all these projects, i dont think there will be another proposed 800 foot residential,

comeon office boom!!!

dales the only one who truely understands me...

There, there, little one.

*pats nimby on the head*

office's regularly don't go on waterfront,but an 900 foot office building would look gorgeous by the bay.

What about the ROSS's plot ?

what do you mean,are you talking about the ross store by wachovia

what do you mean,are you talking about the ross store by wachovia

Yes. Earlier someone predicted that it might be developed in the future.

not a bad plot,but small,and it has access to metromover,problem is wachovia next door,chances of getting approved slim.


on another note,paramount edgewater(right next to opra tower)got approval by zoning board,many might say well they already got a musp from the commisioners but guess what the barcardi rum company was part of the developers who were part of the deal,but at the last minute they decided to not go ahead and do the project and with that they didn't sell half of the land. but the other developer is still going to do the project on a smaller parcel but the building still looks the same,thats why we hadn't heard much about it.so sales should begin by may.

NOT SURE WHAT YOU MEAN THAT PLOT OF LAND IS NOT SMALL AT ALL...


http://img124.exs.cx/img124/3487/119kr.jpg

rx what happened to the renderings.

rx, are you gonna post those pics? we're all dying to see them.

I SENT SOME TO MIABALLINBOI

BUT IM NOT POSTING THEM ON HERE ANYTIME SOON

I STILL HAVENT HEARD FROM JASONHOUSE AS TO WHY HE PUNISHED ALL OF US FOR ONE PERSONS COMMENTS. SO PERHAPS I SHOULD NOT BE THE ONLY ONE TO PUT PRESSURE ON HIM TO RECOGNIZE HIS WAYS.

IM SCORN AND BITTER AND CONSIDER YOURSELF LUCKY YOU SAW THE CRANES REACH THE PORT.

i hear ya. will you email them to me, too? i really, really wanna check them out.

dpaz@bellsouth.net

Real estate expo coming to town
A real estate expo is coming to Miami Beach for the fourth year in a row to showcase developers and lending companies.


The event is to be at Eden Roc Resort & Spa, 11 a.m. to 7 p.m., Jan. 22 and 23.

Exhibitors are to include WCI Communities, Fortune International, Majestic Properties and Bank of America.

So far, organizers said more than 1,000 people have registered to attend.

"This is the most unique and effective marketing forum for exhibitors to showcase their properties and introduce their services to targeted residential real estate buyers and investors," Real Estate Expo president and founder Paolo Sadri said. "In addition, attendees can interact face to face with the industry professionals."

All exhibit booths are sold out. Attendees may get tickets in advance for $10 at www.realestateexpo.us or buy tickets for $20 at the door.

ok someone plese post them

these are towers that were designed by pei partnership,and the reason i posted them was because our project might look like this because it said in the article that the building would have a 3 sided triangular facade.but we'll findout tomorrow.
http://img80.exs.cx/img80/6727/7156161large0ql.jpg

That was a project for Jakarta which I believe was never built.

these are towers that were designed by pei partnership,and the reason i posted them was because our project might look like this because it said in the article that the building would have a 3 sided triangular facade.but we'll findout tomorrow.
http://img80.exs.cx/img80/6727/7156161large0ql.jpg
That would be awesome!!! I hope it looks something like that, Miami needs more glass...you said the renderings will come out tomorrow? I can't wait!

miaballinboi,whats up with posting the renderings huh?

this was posted by magic city a while ago...............

http://img9.exs.cx/img9/4891/boa20im20pei20new20towers20des.jpg

i didnt get anything this week or any renderings of the pei project they woulda been up if i did...

thats the only one i saw that, that uptown posted,

$15 billion of housing planned in Miami
By Yeleny Suarez
With an unprecedented 209 mixed-use developments to house 58,317 residential units planned in Miami at a projected construction cost of more than $15 billion, city officials say the urban building boom shows no sign of slowing.
Of the projects, 32 have been finished at a cost of $1.9 billion, and 31, for $3.6 billion, are rising now, officials say.
Another 59 projects at costs of $7.3 billion have been approved; 21, for $1.9 billion, are in the application phase; and 66, at $376 million, are in preliminary phases.
"Because Miami is an international market, it is very difficult to forecast when and how the market will slow down," said Luciana Lamardo-Gonzalez, city special projects coordinator. "Other municipalities like Chicago have already started to see a slowdown. However, at this time, Miami has shown no signs" of one.
Veteran real estate consultant Michael Cannon of Integra Realty said he is unsure of Miami's future market demand. "There is so much money fueling the market, I can't predict where it's going," he said. "It's going to be interesting to see what is going to happen this year."
The 209 developments do not include tens of thousands of housing units rising or planned elsewhere in mushrooming Miami-Dade County.
Only five mixed-use residential projects in the city have been cancelled.
"Projects can be cancelled for any multitude of reasons, and if so, it is done by the applicant, not the city," said Kevin Walford of the city's planning department. "Projects that come for preliminary review once or twice and are never heard of again can be considered cancelled."
Downtown's future looks promising, with 72 projects totaling 32,732 units at an estimated construction cost of $10 billion. The next-largest clusters are in Wynwood and Edgewater, with 7,240 units in 40 projects at $1.8 billion, and Coral Way, with 23 projects totaling 2,999 units at a projected cost of $277 million.
Seventeen projects are planned for Little Havana, with 2,596 units ($199 million); 12 for Allapattah with 3,238 units ($529 million); 11 each for northeast Miami and the upper east side, 3,053 units ($840 million); eight for West Little Havana, 2,078 units ($247 million); six for Flagami, 3,258 units ($249 million); five for Overtown, 765 units ($66 million); two for Little Haiti, 182 units ($20 million); and one for southwest Coconut Grove and Model City, 176 units ($47 million).
Ms. Lamardo-Gonz·lez said the city can't control when projects are built.
"The majority of the projects approved or seeking approval should be built within the next six years because approvals for projects last two years" and extensions expire at six years, she said.
The city commission must approve permits for projects of 200 or more units. The projects are reviewed for such things as design, historic preservation and urban development, zoning and planning before commissioners vote.
"The true test will come when the current projects that are currently under construction come into the market," Ms. Lamardo-Gonz·lez said. "Then we will have a better idea of how deep the market has been tapped."

street i kinda posted that article in the breaking news thread by mistake,miaballinboi,rx said that he sent you the renderings of asia loft 3 and the brownstones.

what loft 3, whats brownstones?

i just remember seeing the asia stuff and thats on the forum but i didnt get any new stuff of loft 3 or brownstones,

..

Hey I read something about the Riverwalk thats supposed to happen in the CBD on the Metropolitan Miami website. They also had some renderings. I couldn't copy and paste it but it said that it will connect bayside, AAA Arena, and the proposed science and art museums (i guess thats Museum Park). It also said that it will have lighting designs by l'observatoire who worked on the Louvre. It also said that the financing had been secured through the City of Miami and private money from the related group. I actually read it a while back but it slipped through my mind. How reliable is this? Does anybody know of the timeframe on this? By the details it seems they have already done the planning. This would be a great thing to have in place for the 2007 Super Bowl..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/wrestlechamp316/met.jpg

Yep, that's the one I saw. Notice that it's significantly taller than Wachovia.

That would be awesome!!! I hope it looks something like that, Miami needs more glass...you said the renderings will come out tomorrow? I can't wait!


OMG. this one is gorgeous. God I hope it gets built! :eek2: :eek2:

Wait I'm confused. Where's that new building that Uptown Midtown is talking about gonna be located? that thing is espectacular looks like the Bank of China building in Hong Kong. Is it for sure they're gonna build it?

Wait I'm confused. Where's that new building that Uptown Midtown is talking about gonna be located? that thing is espectacular looks like the Bank of China building in Hong Kong. Is it for sure they're gonna build it?

As I said, it's a design for Jakarta, Indonesia which I believe was never built. The design was shown to indicate what the Miami project *might* look like, given that the design shown is also a three-sided, I.M. Pei design.

ohh. Thanks for clearing that for me!

got this off of arquitectonica's website (http://www.arquitectonica.com) & enlarged it a bit:

http://img163.exs.cx/img163/8079/marinablue75mr.jpg

looks like the scale is off (although not by much) since it's shorter than the B of A tower, but it's nice to see a rendering of it in the skyline. i don't know why renderings of marinablue are so hard to come by. :?

man they look so small and punkish,well i think the renderings of marinablue are few is the reason that hyperion doesn't seem to like to release any.(as shown by the blue)i would like to see this project from the back.

WOW South Fla DAVE :) , Thats AWESOME, only ONE TOWER there of 50 in just 5 YEARS, How can we get all 50 in there NOW in that PICTURE. I mean every TOWER to go in there NOW , thats going up in the Next 5 years. :cheers:
Uptown-Midtown :) , sfDAVE :) , everyone ELse :) , OPUS TOWERS ARE NEXT :) , Its going to HAPPEN THIS WEEK !!!, WILL OPUS GET APPROVE !!!

i hope something goes up on the opus land,because has anyone seen that parcel,its just a huge empty warehouse were a buncxh of homeless smoke and drink.

Wow great job SouthFloridaDave!

Chuck, hold on to your CAPS!
I just heard a rumor and I'm still doing some fact checking. I was under the impression that the Museum Park site would not have a stadium. It would have 2 museums and a park. But what if...what if there were two museums, a retractable dome stadium, condos, and had hotel rooms. What if it were the TALLEST IN THE WORLD!!!!
Can't be....right? Probably not, but what an interesting rumor.

YEah...great find dave...thanks alot!!


well just have to wait and see about opus!!

holy christ, roark! now that's an interesting proposal! ain't a chance in hell it'll happen, but it's damn interesting. you sure it's 132 stories & that it would be a new world's tallest? cause it doesn't look that tall. either way, it's pretty freakin' cool!

there's definitely NOTHING like this in miami, that's for sure.

now the reason i got on here tonight...

i found this (http://www.urbanresource.com/) website which has a ton of info on miami projects. a couple of which i either hadn't heard of...

filling station lofts
http://www.urbanresource.com/images/dev/gallery/121/rendering.jpg

...or seen a decent rendering of...

1001 building-park west office tower
http://www.urbanresource.com/images/dev/gallery/120/1001rendering.jpg

pretty cool, both of them. although i'm in shock after seeing what roark posted.

:eek2:

ROARK IF U HAVE NAY INFO ABOUT THAT PROJECT PLEASE SHARE THAT IS ONE AWESOME LOOKING BUILDING.. I WOULD BUY A UNIT THEIR JUST FOR TH LOOK OF THE BUILDING.. AN ABOUT THE OPUS PROJECT LAST I HEARD ABOUT ONE MONTH AGO THE CITY WAS STILL BATTLING OUT WITH THE DEVELOPERS TO CLEAR 395 FOR THE UNDERGROUND TUNNEL. BUT HTIS WOULD MEAN NO OPUS... BUT WE'LL SEE. IF U GUYS WANT THE MOST ACCURATE INFO VISIT THE OPUS SALES CENTER AT 500 BRICKELL AVE 4TH FLOOR IN THE BUILDING

well there is a billboard on i believe the opus site with eddie laquer's number. Doesn't she broker all the land deals so maybe hyperion development is trying to sell the parcel there...

Just to add my two cents on this one... oh my God that is amazing! I am drooling! Although that is not likely to happen, the tall building would be very nice somewhere downtown. That would be the signature building the city would need to vault it into the "big boys" of the world. Wait til Chuck and Miaballinboi see that one!

OH MY GOD!!!. I'm out of words.. I know chances of this one getting built are pretty slim but hey who knows. Chuck is gonna faint when he sees this one. :) :eek2:

The fact that is has a baseball stadium should be the first clue that its not real. The plan to put a stadium there died 4 years ago.

We need to get more info on the filling station lofts...it looks cool, and would greatly add to the diversity of architecture of new buildings being built!!

axis



http://www.urbanresource.com/images/dev/gallery/12/axispooldeckweb.jpg

The fact that is has a baseball stadium should be the first clue that its not real. The plan to put a stadium there died 4 years ago.

right. this is probably some old, "visionary" design that someone dreamed up back when the marlins were trying to get their stadium built in the park. why they even draw up a rendering for something like this, i don't know. cause this thing never had a chance of being built. miami really isn't ready for a tower of this size.

too bad, though, cause it'd be cool as hell to wach this one being built.

Straight from the site that South Florida dave posted!!



The Mondrian in the Design District!!


http://www.urbanresource.com/images/dev/gallery/117/modrian.gif

River House Lofts


http://www.urbanresource.com/images/dev/gallery/118/riverhouseloftsrend.jpg

We need to get more info on the filling station lofts...it looks cool, and would greatly add to the diversity of architecture of new buildings being built!!

Its not the greatest area for a "high end" building as they call it though. Its about 6 or 7 blocks west of the Biscayne at around 17th Street on some railroad tracks and surrounded by delapitated shacks and vacant lots. Maybe they figure if they build there, others will follow. It worked for Biscayne.

^^yeah...that's what I like about it....these type of projects expand the definition of Biscayne Blvd Corridor to include the areas surrounding the corridor

for info on AXIS condos visit WWW.AXISBRICKELL.COM

for info on AXIS condos visit WWW.AXISBRICKELL.COM
they have good renderings and things like that its the developers official site

whoaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!roark what a beautiful tower,but never going to happen.

wooooooooooooooowww,


well its fun to see someone took their time to make this rendering,

but 2 bad it wont happen, as for the other stuff nice :cheers:

right. this is probably some old, "visionary" design that someone dreamed up back when the marlins were trying to get their stadium built in the park. why they even draw up a rendering for something like this, i don't know. cause this thing never had a chance of being built. miami really isn't ready for a tower of this size.Visionary, yes. Old, Nope! Not going to happen...odds are always against the tallest tower ever built. It is unlikely that this large a project would get done, but it would be abosolutely amazing. Very, very imaginative. Never say never.

:applause: :applause:

so it actually is a new proposal. wow, i'm shocked. who's proposing to build this, roark? & what's with the stadium? is that supposed to be for the marlins? it's the stadium that makes me skeptical. there's too many people who have been very vocal about putting a stadium on that land. not to mention that the marlins are pretty far along with their plans to build a stadium next to the orange bowl. now, that doesn't mean that a sweet deal like this could come along & change their plans, but, again, i'm very skeptical.

having said all that, i'd LOVE to see this happen! looks like an awesome project & would definitely a (probably THE) focal point of downtown.

thanks for posting this, roark. keep us informed of any & all info you hear about this.

oh, & speaking of the marlins, for those that may not have heard, they landed carlos delgado today! it won't be official til thursday or so but he's coming.

the marlins are gonna field one badass team this year! WOO-HOO!!!



:cucumber: :banana: :carrot: :pepper: :banana2:

well if it has the ftaa and has the stadium it can solve several issues, specially if the ftaa is in miami the chances of this being built! :runaway:


woow, well it can beat the odds and might hapn! :eek2:

great find roark

hold on one sec,


lets see how this project deals with the

FAA

as much as i like it there to many nimby's in miami to allow this to happen,and that skyscraper looks exactly like pinnacle which is supposed to be the next wtb.

Somebody post the pic on Projects and Updates...and then follow with the rumor that the height has been increased to 150 stories.

It'll surely agitate the Dubai forumers. :)

great idea dale,i'm going to do it

Has anyone seen activity at 10 Museum?

guys i did the thread checkout what people say.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=173549
"WTB,COMING TO MIAMI!!!!!!!!!!!!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

called verticus,its a project being financed and developed by a conglomerate of miami businessmen,including billionaire wayne huizenga(owner of miami dolphins,blockbuster video)mickey arison(owner of miami heat,carnival cruise lines)jeffery loria(owner of florida marlins.and also the related group of florida.the project includes a 2.5 million sq. office component,700 hotel rooms,1000 condo units.the building will be a total of 175 stories.the project is to be called vertical city and include two museums, park space and a 50,000 seat staduim for the florida marlins.the developers say they want the worlds tallest building to come back to the United states."

guys i did the thread checkout what people say.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=173549
"WTB,COMING TO MIAMI!!!No no no!!! Why did you do it Uptown? C'mon man, funny in concept, but now you are representing Miami and lying worldwide! No beuno. Bad, bad, bad Uptown. :wallbash: Now get back in that forum and edit that silliness...

c'mon roark it will be fun,i'll stop it 2moro.please/

i still wanna see the faa what they gotta say :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:

they might downgrade it by like 1000 feet those losers lool,


chuck where are you, :)

lool also lets hope its not the same guys that proposed that world trade miami thing, lool

miaballinboi,you're taking this project so serious.this project probably has a lesser chance of being built than the world trade center thing.that atleast got media coverage

lol uptown,

ya well we know its a dream but roarks right never say never, and he says it got all these sources and banks and stuff that its serious?? if anything itll probalby get downgraded of course if it becomes reality.


roark ? whered u get this news from though?

Would any of you guys be depressed if it got chopped down to, say, 1,500 ft. ?

no way 1000 footer would be great, 1500 even better,

but for now this is more realistic
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/wrestlechamp316/met.jpg

Oh, yeah. I'd forgotten about that stubby little thing.

Uptown, read the thread...funny in concept...funny period. I'll be standing by to receive the lawsuits and the dispostions all day tomorrow. Do they have the Internet in prison? Geez, what ever happened to the days when you could tell a little secret on the World Wide Web?

that little thing again yeah wats its called again ? oh yeah metropolitan 3 miami i dont know somehting like that but back to verticus or vertical city (uptown) now thats a building

For anyone who is wondering, Midtown-Uptown has been banned and Dale Brigged from SSC for their involvement in lying about and spreading the 'Verticus' rumor...


I implore forumers to read the forum rules, as they appear at the top of the forum. Do not post development news which cannot be verified. Also, anyone who knowingly fabricates development information (even as a joke), will be banned on sight. And no, we don't care who you are or what you mean to this site.

Chuck, hold on to your CAPS!
I just heard a rumor and I'm still doing some fact checking. I was under the impression that the Museum Park site would not have a stadium. It would have 2 museums and a park. But what if...what if there were two museums, a retractable dome stadium, condos, and had hotel rooms. What if it were the TALLEST IN THE WORLD!!!!
Can't be....right? Probably not, but what an interesting rumor.


As the rules state, do not post development "rumors". If the information is not verifiable, then do not post about it, period.

As you can see, your little rumor just got two people banned (the difference between them and you is that you said it was a rumor, they conspired to lie and spread it as fact, so don't feel bad). Just don't do it again please.

wow thats not cool but rules are rules huh... maybe he will be back as TOWNUP-TOWNMID :jk: :eek2:

uptown will wriggle his way bak, no keepin him down... this shit just went way to far... figures uptown would get carried away and pull something like this... i wouldnt have banned him, maybe suspended him or something, but thats jasons call, thanks for watchin out for the rules jason

Sorry to see Uptown go, and you too Dale. That kind of news exaggerated could cause some architect in Dubai to :badnews: Wish you didn't have to go, but lies can really start to have bad implications, Jason had no choice. Thanks for all the positive contributions gentleman. :booze:

wow that sux, shouldnt have been taken that far, as roark said about the dubai guys lool j/p

still its just a rumor for now and they shouldnt have done wat they done but w/e

so jason are they allowed to come back as another screen name or thats it they cant enter ssc ever again, that would suck

well miss you uptown and dale

Same here. Rest in peace, Uptown and Dale. We will always remember your world's tallest building prank.

MIAballinboi :) , The answer there is YES, Only if Uptown-Midtown :) or Dale :) Get a New Computer with a Different SERVER and a Different E-MAIL Name. Thats the Only way they can Register Here Again and Come in Here with Different Names and Keep Quiet about Who they were Before, That will be the ONLY WAY BACK in here, But Sad to see them GO. :sleepy:

I'm sorry to see them banned :sleepy:

Dale is just Brigged (suspended). he will be back in two days.

I'm not so sure about U-M, but I gaurantee that if he tries to circumvent the rules by reregistering, then all bets are off. We will ban him again and again and again, until he finally gives up.

Now, if he comes to an NASF staffer like a man, admits he was wrong and so on, then we'll see. I happen to ban easily and forgive easier. But I won't be disrespected (by reregistering) by someone who broke the rules, and forced me to spend much of my morning cleaning up his mess. It's not like I get paid or something. This is my liesure time!

that thread U-M created pissed off many forumers and staffers alike, and ultimately resulted in Jan himself creating new rules for the World P&U forum. And if anything, you guys shouldn't be feeling bad for U-M. He just made Miami look jealous and desperate in the eyes of alot of forumers from elsewhere around the world.


but anyways folks, please back to the thread's topic...:cheers1:

just found a private message that uptown sent me like a month ago (i never check that crap), thats got a cool picture of the american airlines arena on fire during construction... interesting photo, mighta been posted a while ago and i missed it, but cool picture, worth another luk by every1:

http://img86.exs.cx/img86/7054/019gz.jpg

Cool pic Nimby. Maybe if the Miami Heat start another 14 game win streak (or longer) they might just set the building on fire again! Go Heat!

Here is the link to the Herald Ad for Met 3 (http://newspaperads.miami.com/RopAds.aspx?adv=206613)

hhmm.

Just for the record, (as an outside-perspective)

I didnt get angered by U-M and Dales joke, and personally i wouldnt have punished them.. probably delete/close the thread and message them a stern warning.

But yes, i am at a loss to understand how that could inspire anger in anyone.

Bring U-M back :)

wow strong pic nimbyhater,

MALT :) , its true :) , There should of been a FIRST WARNING to Uptown-Midtown :) , and for DALE :) , he was just going along with Uptown-Midtown, but Got Suspended TWO days INSTEAD. But EVERYONE :) here DID KNOW THE RULES :cheers: , it WAS always POSTED , NOT TO LIE, I try to POST THE FACTS :) Here in this FORUM, and I would like to see UPTOWN-MIDTOWN :) Come BACK, If I was a JUROR :) here I would give Uptown-Midtown :) , A 2 - MONTH SUSPENSION, and a 6- MONTH PROBATION of NOT POSTING ANY OF HIS OWN THREADS. But I'm Not the Judge or the Juror here. :cheers:

^woow good thing ur not a juror chuck lol ,2 month suspension of him not being around and then on top of that 6 months of not posting any threads, loool

well c wat hpns, hopefully everythings worked out

))
now back to the miami=downtown miami central business talk :)

uptown, if ur readin this, just kiss jason's ass a little, apologize, say u fukd up, say u luv him, give him a hug, hell let u bak, he already said he would... we need u man

Art & Architecture

Everglades on the Bay developer Jacobo Cababie of Cabi Developers has teamed up with internationally acclaimed pop-artist Romero Britto, whose work serves as the artistic inspiration for the project’s marketing campaign. Britto recently unveiled a colorful maquette—an artistic interpretation of an architectural scale model—of the project, which will be permanently showcased in the window of Britto Central, his Lincoln Road gallery.

Everglades on the Bay is a mixed-use art-inspired condominium featuring 69,000 square feet of ground-floor retail space at 244 Biscayne Boulevard in Downtown Miami. It will contain 870 residences including flats, lofts, and one, two and three-bedrooms, priced from $179,000 to over $1 million.

http://img133.exs.cx/img133/2263/artarchitecture6zp.th.jpg (http://img133.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img133&image=artarchitecture6zp.jpg)

so this is britto's 'artistic interpretation' of the project, not a re-design, right, rx?

looks pretty cool.

it would make more sense to reposition the towers and get better water views for all the residents but unfortunatly they didnt.

i do know that the north towers floor plans where redesign and the amount of units went down but the hieght and design stayed the same. my guess is they added 3 bedroom units which seem to be a trend now since most families are likeing the idea of downtown living as opposed to a house with a yard.

yeah i agree they did the same to the 500 brickell project the east tower south east corner units will now be 3 bedrooms so they redesigned the floors to accomodate. which is a good thing i guess. theres a strong demand for the 3's. west tower 1-2 bed and east tower 1-3. watever makes the $$$$ i guess

another image from the .pdf file on the city's website.

front shot of the marquis:

http://img230.exs.cx/img230/5332/themarquis52ms.jpg

you can check it all out here. (http://www.ci.miami.fl.us/Agendas/Marked/05-01-27.pdf)

So Marquis is going to have a hole in it. I hadn't seen that in the previous angles.

Nice height, but other than that palm tree in the middle of the building (???), it looks pretty generic to me, nothing special. It kind of looks like 900 Biscayne in a way.

If you look at page 3 for this link they have the heights of the other buildings in the area too. They have Marina Blue at 649ft, 10 Museam at 550ft, Marquis at 683ft, and they had Opus on there at 641ft. What they have for 900 Biscayne isn't legible.

http://egov.ci.miami.fl.us/Legistarweb/Attachments/11406.PDF

Thanks again Southfloridadave, using that link I found the heights of River Front West development: Phase 1 - 512ft, Phase 2 - 630ft, Phase 3 - 533ft, Phase 4 - 384ft.

http://egov.ci.miami.fl.us/Legistarweb/Attachments/11484.pdf

I'm trying to get the heights of Riverfront East (Ivy, Wind..). It lists Phase 1 has being 501ft and Phase 3 as being 500ft but I can't make out what it says for Phase 2, it looks like of like 600 ft, but isn't phase 2 Wind? There is no way Wind is 600 ft. Its on page 2 of this link, check it out.

http://egov.ci.miami.fl.us/Legistarweb/Attachments/11541.pdf

i saw that too, dave. i agree that there's no way wind is that tall, if the renderings are to be trusted anyway. so these heights are probably off.

trying to get accurate building heights is more frustrating than listening to ashlee simpson "sing".

Dave I think it says 501.5 feet, it appears that the height without the roof feature is about the same height as the others.

guys where is the Marquis going to be located?

guys where is the Marquis going to be located?

Next to Ten Museum Park, right where the Howard Johnson? Hotel is located. :)

^ ok thanks Don, I didn't know they had already named that project.

this pic says it all...

http://www.buymiaminow.com/media_view.asp?id=898

it's got a website too, bob. although there's not much to see right now.

Marquis (http://www.marquismiami.com)

Awesome SF Dave. thanks for the renderings looks like Ten Museum.

woow great links and great heights nice tall towers, woow opus at 641, lets hope its not dead come back oppppppppuuuuuuuuussssssss!!!!!

w/e ill just post this here, from what i saw in brickell today


HERES THE BIG N-E-W-S!
as i was looking in the office, not really a sales center no model just like a work office, i notice some project boards lying against a wall,

there was one visible and there was like 10 boards behind it, well the one up front that u can see...............


at first millisecond that i saw it im like oo is this met-miami,

but then i look a lil closer..............

crap this is one big ass project, woow green looking towers, at first also i thought it was an older rendering of whats to go on the met site, but then i look at the corner and find out it says "pei partners" and the title of the project yup "lynx downtown" :eek2: :eek2:

woow now this is a project, it was a beautiful giant rendering, very tall towers, tower way over the boa, and they were like greenish and also have like the 10 story atrium or garage on the bottom kinda like met miami project,
but this is one kick-ass awesome really world class design.

now is the part that sucks, while i was in awe at this, the girls were like getting me some brochure of paramount in another room, then they come back and i say "can i take a pic of this project board" and shes like "no, its not ours" she said that they share the office space i guess with another team or something,


so then i left, disappointed i didnt get the pic of it :bash: :bash: :bash:

PLEASE, someone say that u already saw the rendering or have it. roark anyone, someone must have seen it . its really awesome and tall, its like 2 buildings, one taller than the other, like rectangular and thin, must have been at least 60 stories, and i know definetly taller than boa, probably at least 700 feet i will say., if not more!!

I want those boards. I want those boards NOW !!!

ok lets plan an attack lol. roark ur in brickell go on monday or chuck go with ur running around miami truck, go to 4 seasons, take the office elevators to the 10th floor, now the room # is 1003, its on the right hand side last door down a hallway ull catch it. its the paramount beach office, and thats where the boards are lool if u walk into the office, woow it was so nice .... lol

sunday ill be there again but i think theyre closed crap!

cleaning crew or security will let you in for 10-20 bucks

damn miaballinboi why didn't you take it and run

yooooooou uptown,

welcome back man!!!


well to answer ur questioin, dam now i feel bad crap, even if i did take a pic without asking, wats the worst shell say "o please dont do dat", but if i tried pulling fast ones, they were suspicious it was deserted who would be knocking on an office door at closing time, she might call the security, cuz then i would have to run down a hallway, hit the elevator wait for it, and would prolly be in handcuffs before it came lol.


u can do it, next time ur in brickell..

plus i didnt get to see what boards were behind it, maybe some more hidden treasure


anyways it was a professional, big rendering. so it should be online soon shouldint it ? maybe theyre ready to announce it,

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did anybody notice in those pdf files of marquis, where it says height restriction it says NO HEIGHT RESTRICTION! :cheers:

I would say the biggest projects are:

1. Met Miami project, great a new tallest

then its definetly the Lynx downtown

the lynx definetly stands out and has the great design and all glass towers. giant project! :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

are you talking about projects in downtown or all of miami.


because we have to wait and see what jorge perez is cooking up over at his brickell site which he calls miami's biggest project ever

^ no im talking big now, like in height and design,

i know midtown miami is like billions of dollars, but im talking here like high high rise,

the two biggest that we've seen: is Met Miami and the Lynx,

especially since the lynx has these great architects, its really a design.

and i cant wait to see wat jorge perez got up his sleeves, that will also join the list for biggest projects, met miami, lynx, and the sheraton site.

again this is a picture that magic city posted like 2months ago i just added some color to it
http://img225.exs.cx/img225/4891/boa20im20pei20new20towers20des.jpg

That one appears no taller than 650 ft. max.

damn miaballinboi why didn't you take it and runUptown....I thought you were going to change your dilliquent ways?

plus i didnt get to see what boards were behind it, maybe some more hidden treasure. anyways it was a professional, big rendering. so it should be online soon shouldint it ? maybe theyre ready to announce it,There probably were some more interesting boards. From experience, I can tell you that sales offices will have lots of renderings that never get done or change in very significant ways before they are revealed to the public. I would bet though, that if you saw them in the Prodigy office, then they were there to get feedback from the International brokerage community. They may not be cleared for U.S. advertisement/exposure for quite a while.

thats kinda the rendering with a few modifications, the one i saw was kick ass but thats the color.

roark, true, but i hope theyre out quick!

hopefully the apply for a m .u.s.p soon

the sheraton site 3

went drivin around downtown today... and lemme tell u, even tho the majority of projects havent even broken ground yet, its fukin crazy... went wit my girlfriend (so i didnt get any pics, i luv u guys, but i gotta get my priorities straight here, lol) and watching her reaction as some1 who really doesnt know anything about the current boom in teh city was amazing... she kept saying things like "wow, i never knew there was so much stuff goin on in downtown and brickell" "miamis really changing, this is great" "i wanna live in one of those" "hey, how bout we go in the backseat and..." opps, that last one wasnt for u guys, lol

neways, random story that u guys prob dont really care about, but long story short, just confirming what weve been sayin this whole time, shit, miamis really changin, and its gonna b really great in a few years, and watchin some1 else's reaction that hasnt been imersed in all this for a while really reminded me of that...

the sheraton site 3 condos i think the only info he had to say was the # of stories the projects were going to be.... 47-50 and 51-53 and 54-57 i think those were the stories for the 3 projects i guess he wants to add a domino effect like the murano grande project. BUT IT GEATS BETTER!!!! THIS THURSDAY FEBRUARY 10, 2005 IS THE SALES CENTER AND PROJECT PARTY FOR 500 BRICKELL. FROM WHAT MY BUDDY OVERHEARD IS THAT THEIR WILL BE ALOT OF BUZZ ABOUT THE SHERATON PROJECT SINCE THE PARTY WILL BE HELD ON THE BRICKELL PARK LAND AND INCORPORATE LAND FROM THE SHERATON SITE. IM DEFINETLY GOING TO BE THERE SO ILL SEE WHAT I CAN FIND. AT LEAST THE NAME OF THE NEW PROJECT :) :) OR MAYBE JUST MAYBE HE'LL RELEASE A RENDERING :runaway: ANYWAYS I WAS CLOSE WITH THE STORIES~~~~~~~~~~ :cheers:
http://www.miamitodaynews.com/news/050113/story6.shtml

great story nimby hater, cool jemanual great project sheraton,

nimby, u can drive right? how old r u, comeon pass by and get that rendering of lynx loool

man if i had my license, i would be there monday, 9 in the morning lool, :cheers: