I haven't seen any threads for the following projects, so i'll lump these all into the one section. Melbourne's Market precinct includes 380 La Trobe, Wills Tower, Wills Court and the soon to be Greenwich Village.

Wills Tower now receiving it's finishing touches. Will Court's core has rocketed to level 10.
http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/willscourt.JPG

the last pic of 380 La Trobe (AWB House)
http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/380lat.JPG

the rear of the tower is also getting the black glass.

Anyone have a picture of Wills Court?

Here's Greenwich. Wills Tower/Court is directly behind and 380 La Trobe to the left. Conveniently left out.
http://www.greenwichvillage.net.au/images/picPop22.jpg

Interesting thing about Wills Tower:

got my new RMIT 2003 diary today, and low and behold here's an advertisement about "Wills Tower - now leasing from 245 a week (1 Bed)"

tempting, but as much as I wouldn't mind living in it, 245 a week is a bit steep (especially on a student budget) - but still looks like they're going for the students as well - I was under the assumption it was mid-range market. but anyhow. Wills is looking spick-tastic as ever...

tays

Wills is looking great - I reckong that end of town is the best kept secret in Melb. Have they re-opened Wills Street yet? - they were supposed to have it up and running again by Xmas.

EDDIE

AWB House looks to be better than what I had thought. In stead of a concrete facade, its cladded along the sides. Regardless it's flying along!

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/201202lat.JPG

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/201202nes.JPG

That part of town will look very busy from the top of Building 8 @ RMIT. ;)

Blue

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Can you get out on a balcony / fire escape on the Swanston street side of Building 8, like you can on the other side ? silvermb's taken some purla pics from the metal fire escape of old P-HQ, T-HQ, Casselden, Aust Post House etcc....

:?

tays

Yep, it's on A'Beckett street lol :D

http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/wills3001031.jpg

http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/wills3001032.jpg

http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/wills3001033.jpg

tays

half an hour later........try and make the pictures a little bigger Tays, I cant quite see them


sarcasm will get you everywhere :cool:

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:finger:

no seriously, are they errr TOO big physically and in size of file ? or just in size of file ?

yours is the first complaint from a dial-up person......... :?


tays

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:finger:

no seriously, are they errr TOO big physically and in size of file ? or just in size of file ?

yours is the first complaint from a dial-up person......... :?


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ive got cable and i say bring em on!
hehe

anyway, good pics all round tayser

perhaps I should try thumbnails ?

tays

Katsilidis is a deity of some kind. Maybe we should rename Latrobe St!

Blue

"Nonda St" or "Katsalidis St" doesnt sounds right though ;)

lol :D

tays

Well, surprise, surprise, surprise!!!!

The Mondriane on the northeast corner of Spencer Street and Little Lonsdale Street is finally under construction! I just drove past it going to work, and there it was, full steam ahead with construction huts and other large mechanical "things" on site! Yipeeee

Great news, Mondriane is a really different design, very dark and solid compared to most residential towers which are light and airy. A similar look to Gallery Tower on Southbank.

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2001/01/121028.jpg

This is another tower that has been waiting paitiently for a builder to become available, same as Q2. You know you are in the middle of a boom when there is a waiting list to get a tower U/C!

Apparently the redvelopment of 60 Market Street (Pacific International Apartments) is having the same problem and is currently waiting for a builder to start construction.

This now brings the number of skyscrapers U/C in Melbourne to 43! (29 are 20 stories or higher, the same number as Toronto :-)

That pretty good until you look at Hong Kong which currently has 93 buildings over 50 levels U/C!!!!! Unbelievable.
12 U/C Hong Kong 500 footers in two straight lines:

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2002/05/149572.jpg

Mondriane's been hanging around on the Melbourne books long enough.

great stuff!

the sexification errr *cough* beautification of Spencer Street continues! lol :)

Excellent. Grollo, what is the word on Q2 with regards to construction?

Blue

Don't hold your breath on Q2 .. that's all I can say ..

A little birdy told me.. but it will be a minor miracle if it does actaully go ahead in its current form - despite the talk of a builder appointed last year..

Great news about Mondriane tho!

So how high is this? and how many levels is it! It does look very similar to the galleria...

Great to see another tower starting to be built!

Nothing much to see really, no elevated spots around to take pics of the site - however I can tell you it only looks like someone's "raked" over the soil lightly on the site hah :D

http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/mondriane1502031.jpg

tays

380 latrobe from rear

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/380latrobe_2003_02_17.JPG

wills court and the model

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/willscourt_2003_02_17.JPG

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/willsorig.JPG

YAAWWWN *THUNK* Ow! Oh, look, another boring apartment tower! Sure it's just a companion piece, but still...

Blue

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wills court or wills tower ?

Wills Tower is far from boring, one of the standouts IMO!

tays

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/sx_390latrobe_2003_03_06.JPG

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/willstower_2003_03_06.JPG

finally this super redevelopment is under way. McIver framework and demo/construction signs are all over the building.
http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/60market_20030306.JPG

from an absolute shocker
http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/60market_20030312.JPG

to one of the more elegant towers in town
http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/pacificintlapartments.JPG

the last of the four Northbank shockers to be signed off on, although it's u/c prior to Q2. Grollo you still got that pic?

thank god the "shit-brown" bricks are going..... can think of another "shit-brown" brick building that would suit another of these renos too. H-I-L-T-O-N...........

you heard any sales figures on it silvermb ?

tays

390 LaTrobe looks really sharp, for sime reason its cleaan-cut lines look really good. I think it fits in well out that side of town
http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/390latrobe_20030312.JPG

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/390latrobe_20030313.JPG

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/390latrobe_20030313=2.JPG

it was only 4 - 5 months ago and there was a considerable gap between M.C. and republic from that last angle - not anymore! :guns1:

any word on Greenwich ?

an interesting array of buildings on that side of town....
the markets seem to be getting more and more out of place as more condos spread north !!
howcome alot of new melbourne's building have the core exposed one side and not in the middle of the building ? i haven't seen that done b4 in perth?

Ita great to see so many projects going up in this precinct. its a pity about the site next to the old church in La Trobe Street that now has a single storey show room on it when it could have had a 20 storey building!!!!!

Does anyone know the height of the AWB HQ?

Yipeeeeeeee

Another fugly building about to be covered up!

About time, I was beggining to wonder about this one, it's been on sales for around a year now.

Here it is the pic:

http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/~naharrison/ugly.jpg

1. 11 William Street (refurbishment almost completed now)
2. 60 Market Street, soon to be Pacific International Apartments with three extra floors on top :-)
3. QBE Insurance Building, soon to be covered up completely by Q2.
4. Former Stock Exchange, total rebuilt underway, height to be increased by around 40m

I think these developments, although not very significant by themselves, will do more for the CBD skyline than a new 500 foot tower. At the moment the CBD can look a bit grotty in picture postcard views from southbank because of these 70's horror buildings.

There aren't many of these 70's horrors left now, most have been demolished (Gas & Fuel :-) or redeveloped (459 Collins, Marland House) over the past 10 years. Two of the worst that are left are 500 Collins and Enterprise House which you can see on either side of this pic:

http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/~naharrison/bp8.jpg

...I'd be inclined to say the Queen Street office tower between 2 and 3 and AXA are semi-butt-ugly-horrors as well... but yeah no where near as bad as the Pac Intl Building.......... BTW what's the name / address of the Pac. Intl. building as it is ?

A. Steve: think it's roughly 20 levels........ don't quote me though, Mr Stats-almanac-man-silvermb will have a better idea ;)

tays

what an improvement !! looks great except for the part on the left !!
there's a pacific international underconstruction in Perth CBD to and like melbournes one they are re-furbishing an old office building and adding 3 levels on

though i love new towers, i think its even more exciting when an ugly old tower gets a facelift
these redevelopments do melbourne wonders, not only is the city getting better with new towers, the old ugly ones are getting a new lease of life !!

The current RACV building is another fugly one which will be great to see gone or renovated with the new RACV building built!

This looks like a great poject! Are tehy adding on more levels? or just renovating it totally?

just a complete renovation probably... doubt they could add more floors to it - might have overshadowing problems.

tays

60 market st Tays, forgot to put it in. Also three floors added as Grollo said, final height 100m.

d'oh.

..it's the heat... or something ;)

tays

Excellent! :D I was wondering whether Q2 was still a go, great to see that awful QBE wall get swallowed up.

:cheers: Blue

bigger rendering:

thanks to A. Steve for finding it:

http://www.digitalfx.com.au/images/tower_exterior.jpg

And Vloepkleedje for finding this:

http://www.digitalfx.com.au/images/pool3K.jpg

:guns1:

tays

http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/market2503031.jpg

http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/market2503032.jpg

http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/market2503033.jpg

http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/market2503034.jpg

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Its actually 19 levels above the podium plus about 4 levels below so about 23 levels!

Its currently at 14 levels above the podium so still got 5 levels to go!

someone told me 92m on Friday

Rendering of 380 Latrobe:

http://www.propertylook.com.au/listings/CJ/CJ_21/300/CJ_21_13910_10816.jpg

It looks like A-brain was right, going by the pic above thanks to Grollo. It will be a great filler for La Trobe Street.

There was a hell of a lot of action today at this site. It looks like they have dug a hell of a long way down to at least 2 - 3 stories (I think). Maybe they have decided to put the car park below ground and have more apartments above ground!

It's one of those buildings that is looking a lot better in real life than in the renderings (like Crown Promenade). That is going to be a very dense little precinct soon and with a couple more sites available for towers and Greenwich Village (if it goes ahead) it only going to get denser :-)

...best views right now of this area are from the State Library Corner of the LaTrobe / Swanston intersection - at long last LaTrobe's seeing some beef, and on both end of it! :D

tays

Renders from bradygroup.com.au...

Wills Tower (wrong colouring):

___________http://www.bradygroup.com.au/images/wills_tower_pic.jpg

Wills Court
(more than likely being the incorrect colouring as well):

___________http://www.bradygroup.com.au/images/wills_court_pic.jpg

...and of course The Gill
(with a rather odd-shaped Wills Tower standing behind):

___________http://www.bradygroup.com.au/images/the_gill_pic.jpg

BTW the above render of 380 LaTrobe (AWB House) - skyscrapers.com states that it will be 92m (302ft) @ 23 floors above ground. Will this be correct? Ta :)

That tall Willie looks fantastic in real life!

ahh, I wont get sick of glass skyscrapers anytime soon, especially when they reflect two of Melbourne's premium towers

390 La Trobe and Republic Tower, with the new coloured Readymix truck to boot now that Readymix and CSR are different companies. The only one of its kind going around at the moment
http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/390latrobe_20030327=8.JPG


390 La Trobe and Melbourne Central
http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/390latrobe_20030327=4.JPG

Wills bare core and 390's bare core face eachother, as does Customs House and Wills Court. Between each pair there are fairly crappy buildings so its not a far-fetched assumption that towers will spring up in these gaps fairly soon

silvermb......not 390 but 380 :okay: .... and this coming from 750km away!!

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Actually museumb, but you should come a bit closer..

silvermb's first photo there just missed it but there is a whopping bit great 390 on that billboard .. so I think it's probably a clash between the formal council address and the publicised address.

My building in Little Lonsdale is 306-320 Officially thought the apartments are listed at 318 ..

Make sense ?

A-brain,

I wish i could come a bit closer but I live 750 - 800km away in Sydney, as you probably know.

skycrapers.com still lists it as 380 LaTrobe Street as does Grollo's above fantastic rendering does.

BTW A-brain, I'm not doubting you in regard to the hording now listing it as 390 LaTrobe, but are we splitting hairs here now so to speak?

BTW, I still haven't received an answer on this, or doesn't anyone know at this stage i.e below quote?:
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Thanks,
mb

probably is museumb

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anyhow from propertylook.com.au (URL is on that billboard)

Address: 380 - 390 La Trobe Street, MELBOURNE

Rental psm pa: $ 260 - $ 300 (AUD) GST Exclusive
GST: $ 26 - $ 30 (AUD)

Office m2: 1,221 - 10,989
Site m2: 0


Access to the law precinct in the western part of the central business district is excellent.This is a new development, currently under construction, 50% leased to AWB Limited. Completion is due early 2003. Access to 220 car spaces is provided from A'beckett Street.

Lease term: Negotiable
Lease type: Direct lease

Car parks available to rent: 228

Additional Information: This is a new development, currently under construction, 50% leased to AWB Limited. Completion is due September 2003. Access to 220 car spaces is provided from A'beckett Street.

Thanks tayser for clarifying that.

Much appreciated :) .

BTW ss.c quotes 380-390 LaTrobe's completion date as 2004 :?

Once again, perhaps splitting hairs again - ss.c as we know can sometimes give incorrect info.

Anyway let's hope it will be completed later this year :okay: .

You gotta love that lap pool rendering...apart from the intrusion of that horrible stack in the background! Currently we're working on redesigning that entire block...as a theoretical exercise sadly. What is the deal with that KSIG mob?

The KSIG website is back up but no updates since last october. They have moved (if they still exist) but have not updated the contact details on the web site (which is not a good sign).

Does anyone know the height of this one? I counted 27 ish levels x 3m = 81m?? would this be its height ?

88m Culwulla, increased from its original height

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/mondriane2.JPG

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/mondriane3.JPG

access to parking levels is via a cark lift. I guess hydraulic or pneumatic jacks would be the go on such a small site??
http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/mondriane1.JPG

Its higher! Excellent news :D

I listed it on Sksyscrapers.com at 88m ages ago :-)

What the structure on the roof in the elevations? is that included in the elevations? Also what's on levels 8 & 9? looks like office space or a restaurant or something.

thanks for that grollo. 88m is still impressive height. what part of town is it in? are there other talls around it?

Docklands Tower is near by, but it will stick out quite a bit as its right next to the flat The Age building in Spencer St.

not included in the height, but they're a satellite dish and four mobile phone towers

I believe they are offices Grollo

390 La Trobe today taken from about 0.1km, not quite 750km!!

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/390latrobe_20030403=2.JPG

hrmmm, yeah, looking much better "in the flesh" so to speak rather than the rendering....

simple, but nice [380 la trobe] is that the core on the side of the building ??????

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Hrmmmmm!

Anyway, yeah chris, i was wondering what was going to happen to that huge expanse of bare wall, on 380, i mean 390, i mean 380....

....oh the AWB HQ on La Trobe!

lol... yeah might be a good idea to just call it AWB House from now on, to save any further confusion / other stuff.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/market0904031.jpg

prefab houses or cards only ever seem to take a few weeks to build. Wills Court is flying along. Green windows, with black and silver finish. Hopefully it looks as good as Wills Tower when complete.

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/willscourt_20030410=1.JPG

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/willscourt_20030410=4.JPG

Suffering from street level vertigo Marcus from your fantastic canyon shot. Top stuff! Prefab is fab.

According to ss.com and/or skysraperpage.com both Wills Tower and AWB House will be 92m to top....
....and so will Crown Promenade Hotel ... BTW Repub. Tower is 120m., giving youz an idea of perspective.

http://www.vicprojects.com.au/ProjectImages/CrownHotel1.jpghttp://www.bradygroup.com.au/images/wills_tower_pic.jpghttp://www.propertylook.com.au/listings/CJ/CJ_21/300/CJ_21_13910_10816.jpg

The crane is up and almost ready for action!

Yeah went past today.. definately in major full swing now with crane all assembled..

They had some boardings down and the plot size is TINY !!!

Maybe this has already been said... but when's it due to finish?

Readymix have taken over from Piave last week so Mondriane has moved from foundation work to construction. Such a small site, this tower will rocket along.
http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/mondriane_20030510.JPG

Instant skyline!

http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/~naharrison/north2.jpg

http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/~naharrison/north cluster.jpg

http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/~naharrison/from queen vic.jpg

http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/~naharrison/380 latrobe reflection.jpg

http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/~naharrison/380 latrobe.jpg

Nice three storey addition and compete refurb of a drab 60's office tower:

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2002/03/142854.jpg

The glass is looking pretty slick like 15 William Street:

http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/~naharrison/william.jpg

you know there's a lot happening when you completely forget about projects such as this ;)

a little bit of wall-to-wall highrise refub action doesn't go astray :nocrook:

added to Quick Links btw

tays

If Grenwich Village gets off the ground, it will add a number of towers to this Market Precinct.

Yeah just drove past this today and the refurb looks really schmick.. that glass is fantastic..

Definately better than nothing I reckon.. William St is probably the CBD Street most needing refurbs of crap old 60's brick shizenhausens ..

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i reckon a year from now!
25 levels x 2weeks a pour= 50weeks.


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WOW! Willie and Republic look GOOD!

first time i've come across those pics Grollo; clarity and colour-sensational. The northern crane on 390 is minus its arm, just the cabin atop the tower frame. Also the core box has been removed from the northern end. Its looking the goods

Saw this in the AFR today:

The upper office levels of the 24 level building are to be known as 380 La Trobe Street, with the lower retail levels known as 390 La Trobe.

Strange but true :-)

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..well that settles it then ;)

tays

Speaking of 380 in that first pic, TIMBERRRRRRRR
;)

Does anyone know the value or approx value of this project?

BornMelb, seems no-one would know but there's a way of approximate.

Looking at the size of the building and the number of residential floors, i'd have a guess at about 120 apartments and considering they were sold some time ago, i'd say the average price would have been about 400,000. So thats about $50 million

Prices vary alot depending on the projects size and quality but i'd guess the cost ceiling at around $45-50 million and a little profit on top.

the crane was a nice surprised today coming home - never noticed it until today from Spencer St.

what's been happening on the site ?

tays

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/mondri_20030526.JPG

right on cue Mr. Mb, thanks :cool:

tays

On the left, yet another crane!

http://members.optusnet.com.au/~naharrison/spencer.jpg

Anybody else noticed the WHY LOG OUR WATER? on KSIG's power station chimney? we should see if we could get up there one day :-)

That's really a pretty damn ugly view at the moment, but just think of the potential :-)

P.S. The AGE building HAS TO GO!

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Shit theres already a core! Mondriane is creeping up out of the bloo..

The core box for the AWB in La Trobe Street is being removed today. :(

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/wcourt_20030530.JPG

those monkeys at DOI are at it again. It looks like another building with a fucking exposed concrete core sticking out the top! If this is the case someone has lost the plot at DOI. Good to see they'll leave a legacy of giving Melbourne a few eye-sores for the years to come. Im not against the core on the outside, just the fact it's sticking out like dogs balls on top. They need to insist that the towers design is built up or stepped in to the top of the core. If this is yet to happen for 380 i'll stand corrected but right now like QV , this is a dog.

Agreed. The design for 380/390 Latrobe is hopelessly ill-conceived from the west. what were they thinking?

Remarkable.

Blue

can add another building to 15, 277 and stalled 199 William redevelopments.

205 William, or Owen Dixon Chambers building is an absolute prehistoric shocker. Brick facade of various colours, tiny windows and every office has an external a/c unit bolted to the brick wall.

similar size to 277, anyway the building is all meshed over as was 277 William, with Hooker Cockram builders signs all over. Good to see some contemporary designs coming in to replace the 60's crap. If only the developers go after Nubrik House next to 277 William

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205 William, or Owen Dixon Chambers building is an absolute prehistoric shocker. Brick facade of various colours, tiny windows and every office has an external a/c unit bolted to the brick wall.

similar size to 277, anyway the building is all meshed over as was 277 William, with Hooker Cockram builders signs all over. Good to see some contemporary designs coming in to replace the 60's crap. If only the developers go after Nubrik House next to 277 William</td></tr>
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Owen Dixon Chambers was only internally refurbished (foyers and entrances) recently. So it's obvious that those money-loaded barristers aren't going to refurb their shocker.

277 William refurb is looking good already!

doesn't seem so obvious to me, im sure those money-loaded barristers wouldn't have contracted builders to erect scaffolding and mesh for the sake of it. Regardless even a coat of paint would do wonders...we will see.

is there a website for mondriane???

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http://members.optusnet.com.au/~naharrison/spencer.jpg

Anybody else noticed the WHY LOG OUR WATER? on KSIG's power station chimney? we should see if we could get up there one day :-)

That's really a pretty damn ugly view at the moment, but just think of the potential :-)

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the chimney will be heritage listed ,as its an early form of concrete slip form technique! In 1953 the stack was Australia's tallest at 114m! its actually not round but 16 facated sides. It starts at 10m below ground level.
I wich Sydney had a 114m stack right in the CBD
:D we have to be content with 2 x 60m brick stacks which are among the tallest of brick type in oz.

Cul, you can take it

at some stage someone will have to make the decision between a big tower or big chimney. Heritage listed or not, I already know the answer. Would be nice to have it somewhere else though, or at least part of it in a museum somewhere. It like the rest of the power station is laced with various poisons/toxins though.

From memory, the whole site is Heritage Listed, but because of its contamination, it can be demolished.

The buildings are covered by a heritage overlay but the are not included on the Victorian Heritage Register. The older 19th century buildings on Spencer Street would have to be kept but the later complex including the chimney are one of the worst cases of aspestos contamination in Australia. There was an attempt to clean up the buildings in the 1980's but this was abandoned when the extent of the contamination became apparent. The site is so badly contaminated that it is going to take 2 years to clean up once they have demolished the later buildings.

http://marina.fortunecity.com/greenland/350/ps23.jpg

http://marina.fortunecity.com/greenland/350/ps32.jpg

Jesus christ thats worse than the school I whent to!!!

oh thats a real shame about the stack! oh well , i quess safety issues come first. asbestos. yuk! implode the thing now! lol
nice by the way!

Yet another (future) beautiful piece of Melbourne architecture in the making.

i like those mini blades up the middle
http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/277w_20030605.JPG

from today's big paper
This week's listing of Communications House at 199 William Street, and its annexe at 518-532 Little Bourke Street, will tempt investors.

Built for Telstra in the 1960s, the property is one of the largest releases to the market this year, at 32,000 square metres. The long-vacant property is expected to fetch $20-$25 million.

Market analysts expect the buildings to be land-banked by an investor before a refurbishment, given the supply of office space on the market and rising buildings costs.

the proposed redevelopment, cant say its stunning, wonder if they'll go with another design or a new tower when the time is right
http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/199w.JPG

I may have complained too soon, there are columns atop AWB that are still to be poured, covering a half floor-plate closest to the core; it seems the design may step into the core. Its an interesting core though, the top has a massive gap visible (to the right) and entrances holes all the way to the top; it may not stick out above the floorplate after all? Certainly hope so

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/marketsub.JPG

also whats the story with Wills Court. I thought it was supposed to be 10m shorter than Wills Tower, and the core box is above WTower

http://www.bradygroup.com.au/images/wills_court_pic.jpg

L23 is exposed, L24 in the core box and, im guessing L25 (final) is still coming, so by that pic the core alone will be equal to Wills Tower

Yeah dont mean to sound facetious but I coulda told you so..

I've been watching 390 LaTrobe grow from my balcony day-to-day over the past year since I moved into the city.. and the rendering always predicted that the building would top out properly with 19 levels above the podium.

I dont think there will be a 'step-up' but rather just a fully finished flat roof..

Might take a pic tomorrow morning..

One thing is for sure, when its finished I'm gonna miss my wakeup call of the cranes firiing up in the morning which tells me each day if its a construction day today!!! (And not an RDO or Strike day)

Grollo was right!

"Instant skyline" indeed!

that's not from RMIT is it mb ?

tays

from realestate.com.au:

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/4951/4604951dl1048561992.jpg

:banana:

I think this refurbished tower is going to be great and it will add a hell of a lot more character to Williams Street (legal precinct).

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YEH! I thought the same thing. I thought one tower was supose to be shorter, but the taller it gets, the happier I will get! :)

That refurb looks bloody fantastic! It's the little things.... the use of different glass, the horizontal fins (my favourite part), the trianular box at the top right of the building.

I'm convinced that glass in Melbourne looks, well, "glassier" than glass elsewhere. :) I can't explain it!

bumping so as it wont get canned

http://www.westpoint.com.au/pictures/MarketSt/construction/200305/market_200305_01.jpg
http://www.westpoint.com.au/pictures/MarketSt/construction/200305/market_200305_04.jpg

Glad to see that this one is still alive, not much progress over the last month, every time I see it I get this bad feeling that the project is going to fall in a heap like Q2 and the former ASX.

Well, Westpoint developments seem to take a very loooooooooooooong time to get going!

Their "Portico" development in Sydney has only just put up its official hoardings so the work can get underway, and I think they must have started selling the project about 2 years ago!

At least this Melbourne development looks as though it will certainly be going ahead...whenever they're ready! :| ;)

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/pia_20030703.JPG

just saw this at dusk today, if there's any doubt that this refurb wont go ahead, well then that's shattered!

:D

Now that is what i call great news. Another heavy lifter going up into the Melbourne skyline. :D

Beautiful :-)

Thank god the days of this ugly box of crap diminishing the view from Southbank are almost over.

I went for a very long walk during lunch and have an update on a number of developments in this precinct
The AWB building looks amazing from close up and even from a distance. The “barcode” sign hiding the car park levels is very eye catching. A must see for everyone. The core is complete and only a few more floors to go till it tops out.
Wills Court looks spectacular. The core is at level 28.
Still no action at Greenwich Village
The reclad of a Williams Street office tower is also almost complete with only a few glass panels to go.

at the start of the week drove past and they hadn't started assembling the core box nor were the precast walls in place for the first floor. yesterday the core had risen and the first floor was in place ready to pour - speed!

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/mondri_20030704.JPG

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/wcourt_20030704=3.JPG

lol @ the core box taking up 1/3 of the site :)

tiny!

:rock: :cool: @ pic

_________

anyone heard anything on Greenwich ?

tays

Can't wait to visit the Market Precinct when I come to Melbourne in early Oct. during semester break from my Architectural Technology Certificate IV.

I adore & purely luuuuurve the area http://qopt.phys.msu.su/pasha/smiles/smiles1/1luvu.gif

Tays,

I understand Greenwich Village will be selling again in September with a pretty big campaign (or so an agent tells me)

They were in Asia recently making some sales on rodashow... They seem to be the 'quiet achievers' or the market place

EDDIE

thanks Eddie!

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Beef it up

http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/market1607031.jpg

x 2

http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/market1607032.jpg

So what's the latest? We wait with baited breath.

Originally posted by museumb
So what's the latest? We wait with baited breath.

Pretty much like tays last photo ...

I walked past on Sunday on the way to TD... it is truly amazing how small the footprint is and as tays said the core box takes up like 1/3 of the site !!!

But working progressing as normal by all accounts.. in fact I think the core may have risen since tays last pic..

Crane is now at full height, far left on this pic:

http://melbournephotos.gotdns.com/pics/2003-07-25%20Melbourne%20-%20Ozscraper%20meet,%20Southbank%20and%20IBM%20tower/IMG_2457.jpg
(pic by Uewepup)

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/market1808031.jpg

Look how tall Wills Court is! What a surprise, it must be like 26 stories by now and higher than the 92m Wills Tower. The rendeings on the Brady site still show a 20 storey building, strange.

Should be called "The Kramet Precinct"... always room for one more tower.

Keep em coming I say. :guns1: :guns1: :guns1:

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/market1808031.jpg

The Central Equity office in the market precinct must be a terrorist target!!!:D:D:D:D

There is a H - U - G - E site in the Market Precinct that no one has mentioned and that is the vast open space behind the Royal Mint. I still think the Royal Mint could have been a wonderful entrance foyer to a 4 - 5 star hotel with a 40 - 50 storey hotel/apartment tower behind it.

Yeah behind the mint is a prime site but it would be very difficult to get something approved considering the heritage significance of the Mint Building and the walls and fences that surround the site.

Originally posted by Grollo
Yeah behind the mint is a prime site but it would be very difficult to get something approved considering the heritage significance of the Mint Building and the walls and fences that surround the site.
I believe the mint's walls are also heritage listed, and the mint is currently fully refurbed and occupied as the Australian HQ of TEAC.

I know The Royal Mint is already restored and fully occupied by TEAC but I still think the rear of the site could be used. There are 2 small buildings (one used as a car park) on Little Lonsdale Street that I think would be owned by the State Government that could be demolished to provide access to the site.

the forgotten tower???

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/510/483mondri_20030820_5.jpg

Originally posted by Aussie Steve
I know The Royal Mint is already restored and fully occupied by TEAC but I still think the rear of the site could be used. There are 2 small buildings (one used as a car park) on Little Lonsdale Street that I think would be owned by the State Government that could be demolished to provide access to the site.

Yeah, but the rear of the site is ringed by the heritage listed walls!!!

And can I just say that Republic Tower is still the best looking resitower in town!

Yes, but like the heritage listed wall along Flinders Street, Docklands, anything can be done in the name of progress, and the only thing I want is a hole in the eastern wall, the wall that is now not at all visible! I am certain the hole would be approved.

I think people will be surprised at the skyline impact that this tower will have as there are no other towers around it apart from Dockside Tower which is around the same height and sticks out lkke a sore thumb. From this angle the roof should be a bit higher that the old power station chimney:

http://members.optusnet.com.au/~naharrison/spencer.jpg

Is the forgotton tower! I forgot about it!

I didn't realise it was going to be so tall....it will make a great impact at that end of the CBD! Just like we said in dan's thread in the skycraper pic section, it needs something good!

Nice pic Grollo

pic from www.realestate.com.au

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/6080/1986080al1061430572.jpg

Better (newer ?) rendering of Wills Court (Domain section of the Saturday Age (23/8/03))

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/willscourt.jpg

They STILL have the old rendering of the 20 storey design on the Brady website:

http://www.bradygroup.com.au/images/wills_court_pic.jpg

It looks much, much better now with the top matching Wills Tower, I hope they paint it the sma ecolour, that would look cool.

This tower actually got a height increase approved after it started construction! 26 or 27 levels? Probably the same height as Wills Tower, it doesn't look that way but it's further up the hill than Wills Tower so 92m?

if all my pics turned out like this id be happy

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/510/483mondri.jpg

quality silvermb, quality :cool:

Is AWB House structurally (& glass) complete yet A-brain ?

Originally posted by Grollo
They STILL have the old rendering of the 20 storey design on the Brady website:

http://www.bradygroup.com.au/images/wills_court_pic.jpg

It looks much, much better now with the top matching Wills Tower, I hope they paint it the sma ecolour, that would look cool.

This tower actually got a height increase approved after it started construction! 26 or 27 levels? Probably the same height as Wills Tower, it doesn't look that way but it's further up the hill than Wills Tower so 92m?

hehehe they must have read this thread because as you can see they now have the rendering of final version on the web site :-)

Originally posted by tayser
Is AWB House structurally (& glass) complete yet A-brain ?
Yes, from my office window, it looks (almost) finished.

Originally posted by tayser
Is AWB House structurally (& glass) complete yet A-brain ?

Hang on.. lemme go out to the balcony and check...

http://users.bigpond.net.au/speckled10/DSC00554.jpg

I'd say that's a 10/4 Big Daddy-O ..

Notice they've filled out the roof with some nice grey plant housings - so that the Core Box LMR doesn't stick out all by itself..

Also notice the nearly done Wills Court peeking out behind AWB at left ... this one definately snuck in under the radar.. It's about as Wills Tower and hardly anybody noticed !

that's what we want to see, MORE PICS! [everyone!]

thanks A-Brain :guns1:

Matrix Apartments (www.matrixapartments.com.au)
Yep, more developments up north in Franklin Street!

Very small, but a good filler

http://www.matrixapartments.com.au/media/other/image.jpg

http://www.matrixapartments.com.au/media/location/map.gif

100 Franklin Street (http://www.stjohngroup.com.au/properties/franklin.htm)

http://www.stjohngroup.com.au/propery-images/fraklin/frank-lrg.jpg

well this tower has come up really well. has its own style really, dont see too many towers without the glass balconies these days. Eifel on Flinders will be preety much the same style with the solid balconies.

if wills tower is 92m, id say wills court is about 105m

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/510/483wco_20031013.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/510/483wco20031013.jpg

what's the architectural? term for the canopy-type horizontal blades that overhand both Tower & Court?

just "blades" or some other swanky term?

great pics smb.

Scaffolding etc is up...

http://members.optusnet.com.au/lukekasper/Southbank/DSC00071.JPG

hope its not a dud, the renderings the pacific international perth looked good but it turned out cheap and tacky [same developer ie. westpoint] lets hope they do a better job and give me some faith for the proposed swan panorama development they are doing on the emu brewrey site

nice pics kasp, I'd love to see this tower stripped to the bare bones, such as what they did to 15W before re-cladding :guns1:

The crane for the AWB on La Trobe Street is coming down today. Any one interested in borrowing it for a while??

Seems as though this quiet little fella has move up in the world. I think the core is up around 10 stories and the floors at level 3 (I think).

A cherry picker, yes - a spare crane, no.

Originally posted by tayser
what's the architectural? term for the canopy-type horizontal blades that overhand both Tower & Court? Just "blades" or some other swanky term?Exactly that tayser i.e. 'canopy'. The horizontal blades are simply known as 'fins'. K.I.S.S.

Canopies as you know are also on the Melburnian and The Clarendon.

The canopies on Wills Tower and Court are made of Aluca bond and an expanded metal that is coated with a transucent paint, to make them appear tanslucent.

thanks for the clarification muse!

I like canopies, I want more canopies. No, I DEMAND more canopies, damnit ;)

Creme de la creme of Canopies:

http://www.phototour.minneapolis.mn.us/pics/2706.jpg

I am absolutely LIVID that Australia doesn't have some canopy-action on that scale, a US Bank Centre (tower above - in Minneapolis) would be nice on Bourke & Queen, with it's 3/4 canopy projecting South West, keeping with the South West theme (Bourke Place's roof-top feature) - can just see it now....

oh, sorry... :)

:drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:

EDIT: I guess the closest thing Melbourne's ever come close to having such as US Bank Centre, is the defunked Imperium :( :(

Does anyone know the year 60 market was built? mid 60's or late 60's early 70's?
also its original height?
cheers guys!

heres website for Pac int hotel. they keep pix on its construction. last pix were in May!lol we might have to take some for them.

http://www.westpoint.com.au/constructc.htm

Box-TACULAR, a very very smart looking box, with the plastic protection-ee cover-y things coming off :cool:

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/market2010031.jpg

hi:

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/market2010032.jpg

This one has turned out much better than expected, very crisp and clean.

:banana:

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/mond2410031.jpg

^^ that above is why you NEVER use digital zoom :)

Older pic, but think of the difference when / if Greenwich gets off the ground, or when / if CE gets their tower up:

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/8754/101128754ml1067212433.jpg

:guns1:

a fair judge of a towers quality is apartments in relation to height - this 72m tower has 315 apartments, way over the odds. i hope this tower doesnt get up.

although the front is acceptable and the piazza is a great idea...
http://www.greenwichvillage.net.au/images/picPop9.jpg

http://www.greenwichvillage.net.au/images/picPop28.jpg

...the rear just reminds me of the old movie 'the blob' where it consumes everything in its path, a very piss-poor Span Architects like design

http://www.greenwichvillage.net.au/images/picPop22.jpg

Rock on Wills Tower & Court :rock:

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/market3010031.jpg

How bout these pair of apples..

http://users.bigpond.net.au/speckled10/DSC00562.jpg
(c) 7:56pm Friday 31st October 2003 - Adrian's Balcony

Only Melbourne could make a Grey Wet night look so Schmick-tactular.. :no: :happy:

very nice Adrian...












....ya smartarse :righton: :)

tays

filled out nicely (from The Age - My Melbourne)

http://www.theage.com.au/ffxImage/urlpicture_id_1068013312019_2003/11/06/611mm8,0.jpg

AWB is excellent for what it is. I have a close friend moving into that building. And the barcode at its base is pretty nifty too - clean, crisp, it's like digital, man!:cool: Matrix, on the other hand, is OK as a gap-filler, but with a gawd-awful name like that...who's going to stay there?! Willie boy is good, but Court is crap!

Marco, I can live with Greenwich - becos it adds bulk and what's there at the moment is the land of the living crap.

Tays, shove your canopy fetish - we have SPIRES, CROWNS and LANTERNS. Anyway, Chifley has a mini canopy at the lower level, doesn't it? I'm talking KPF work - look at Frankfurt...the steel crown on top of Westendstrasse I (1993)...it looks pretty damn average compared to sleek spires and innovative crowns! Eurotrash. hehehe :tongue:

Now all bow down to Republic Tower coolness...

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/pacintl1111031.jpg

thanks for the pic tayser
oo i hope this looks fairly similar to the rendering after its finished

anything is an improvement on the big brown bog that's there now

Cheers

Dean - Melbourne

From the back.

http://members.optusnet.com.au/lukekasper/MelbourneNov/DSC00048.JPG

Is your dad still in that old RACV building eh kasper??

Originally posted by tayser
Is your dad still in that old RACV building eh kasper??

yep! Hasn't gone yet!

Seems we only use Digital zoom on this one!

http://members.optusnet.com.au/lukekasper/MelbourneNov/DSC00031.JPG

Originally posted by kasperluke
Seems we only use Digital zoom on this one!


hah! I had my new cam with optical today, yet completely forgot bout this one - and I used Spencer Street Station TWICE today......... dang.

:)

Just look at the bulk 3 small-ish towers can make:

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/4423/4714423ml1059175832.jpg

!

I think Greenwich Village is dead :( I wanted to know more about this project so I registered my interest a few months ago and have had nothing sent to me. I just tried to ring the number of their web site and its disconnected :( Oh well, another dead project!

^^ lol, poor A. Steve ;)

http://melbournephotos.gotdns.com/pics/2003-11-20%20Melbourne%20-%20Foggy%20day%20up%20Rialto/IMG_3125.JPG

Really getting quite dense out there!

unless thats the biggest bird crap ive ever seen AWB's core is getting a much needed paint job. As Blabby said, it is excellent for what it is.

as for Greenwich Village, die you ugly bastard!

:angel:

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/pacintl2011031.jpg

I don't think Greenwich Village is dead.

I understand they are relaunching next year with a different marketing program.

There have been some dsign changes too but I don't know what they are..... but I didn't think it was THAT ugly!!

Didn't know where else to put this developemnt on Swanston St, just south of The Unviersity.

http://www.winstruc.com/winport1/winport1_03a.jpg

http://www.winstruc.com/winport1/winport1_03b.jpg

preliminary design work for the AGE site on spencer street will start early next year....HASSELL are the architects so expect to see some funky happenings in town....

http://www.hassell.com.au/siteImageStore/The-Age-02.jpg

http://www.hassell.com.au/siteImageStore/The-Age-03.jpg

http://www.hassell.com.au/siteImageStore/The-Age-01.jpg

Are they preparing plans for a planning application or just building envelopes and concept plans to show prospective buyers? I wouldn't think that Fairfax would develop the site unless they have already done a secret deal to sell the site (the AFR would be very interested to hear this news :-).

With a hieght limit of 500 metres it will be interesting to see hwta they come up with :-) Although being realistic I think a couple of 500 footers would be a good outcome because it's not exactly prime real estate, even with Southern Cross Station going up across the road. More likely to get a big one on the Shape Towers (old power station) site across teh road.

http://www.hassell.com.au/siteImageStore/The-Age-01.jpg

:rock:

Originally posted by Grollo
Are they preparing plans for a planning application or just building envelopes and concept plans to show prospective buyers? I wouldn't think that Fairfax would develop the site unless they have already done a secret deal to sell the site (the AFR would be very interested to hear this news :-).

With a hieght limit of 500 metres it will be interesting to see hwta they come up with :-) Although being realistic I think a couple of 500 footers would be a good outcome because it's not exactly prime real estate, even with Southern Cross Station going up across the road. More likely to get a big one on the Shape Towers (old power station) site across teh road.
Awesome news all the same, and Fountainhead, you da man! (Great industrial archi pics there!)

So their going to be moving from Spencer Street?

Tullamarine is only for printing so are they moving or just renonvating in the CBD?

It just occured to me.. maybe they could build a 350 metre version of that rolled up newspaper in Spencer St !!!

Now *THAT* would be a new landmark for Melbourne..

Originally posted by MelbourneCity
So their going to be moving from Spencer Street?

Tullamarine is only for printing so are they moving or just renonvating in the CBD?

Their own Capital Gain has mentioned that "Fairfax has not expressed their desire to redevelop" but nearly everyone in property cycles would undoubtedly know the full significance of a move out of Spencer Street & the nextdoor site, Sharpe Towers.

:banana2:

Another Tower to add to the completed list:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/510/135willscourt119122003.jpg


This one has come up better than expected, looks great next to Wills Tower (have to take this shot again whne the weather isn't so crappy :-):
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/510/135twotowers1191203.jpg

^^ :drool:

the point of the first phase is testing feasibility of all options and a decision should be made around feb/march as to what option to develop....this could mean simply recladding the existing building (although it sounds like they want something more ambitious), to building a new tower(s).....we will all just have to wait and see

The basic premise is that the Age want to stay at Spencer St.

Please no big floorplate 10 storey campus style office building, not this site! I think it's most likely they will do a bit of a renovation because in about 6 years time because this site will be more viable for a big development when docklands is almost finished, zt the moment they would be mad to propose anything.

I don't think it will end up a "campus style" building. The difference is that it is the Age's own building and they are developing it themselves as their signature building, it's not a developer shlock and sell.....

So's anyone seen this baby from the cnr of Collins & William yet?

if you have, were you as pleasantly surprised as I was today? ;)

Originally posted by Grollo
Crane is now at full height, far left on this pic:

http://melbournephotos.gotdns.com/pics/2003-07-25%20Melbourne%20-%20Ozscraper%20meet,%20Southbank%20and%20IBM%20tower/IMG_2457.jpg
(pic by Uewepup)

Just slighty off the topic but does anyone know what is happening with the vacant block of land in front of the QBE Insurance building at the bottom left of the pic?

Originally posted by ciaobellaxo
Just slighty off the topic but does anyone know what is happening with the vacant block of land in front of the QBE Insurance building at the bottom left of the pic?

Unfortunately the Q1 proposal (Resi tower same height as QBE) for the site was all ready to go but the developer SGRO turned out to be a total schonkmeister and the company instead was wound up.

The land will be sold off if it hasnt already and we should eventually see a similar proposal..

Just drove past Verve 501 Swanston St, and there is a crane on site and plenty of demolition work underway.

Owen Dixon Chambers was only internally refurbished (foyers and entrances) recently. So it's obvious that those money-loaded barristers aren't going to refurb their shocker.

ha ha ha blabbyboy you should know better than to question me :cool:

luckily what was the worst building in melbourne is getting a new facade. the three (fourth pending) recladded towers on William street of late have really lifted what was a 60's strip.

not inspiring but it sure does look better than the previous crap

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/510/483205_20040113.jpg

It's a vast improvement but conservative in keeping with the Bar's (not your type of bar, Silvermb) conservative image.

So the only tower left, in a prominent possie, that needs some work is QBE on Queens St. (the worst blight on Melbournes skyline) i just wished Q2 had gone ahead, to block it out, sooner rather than later

15W, Pacific International and the William St ones, amonst others, have been completed or are in the process of refurbs.

Cheers

Dean - Melbourne

271 William Street is going to have a complete refurb, levels 14&15 will be extended and two more levels added on. It's the brick building to the left of 277 William in this pic:

http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/~naharrison/william.jpg

The former ES&A bank, South-West corner of Elizabeth and Franklin Sts.
This 13 storey scraper proposal which will rise from the existing 3 storeys was originally intended to be an office tower of 12 storeys back in 1959, with floors of alternating balcony projections and a North-facing decorative sun grille rising from the ground floor to pierce a floating roof. A tribute to Frank Lloyd Wright even with the new proposal is about to start construction. Boardings are up and the old building is swarming with construction workers gutting the place out.
No crane yet.

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it's looking schmick!

http://metropolis.tayser.net/projects/cbd/277w2201041.jpg

^^ that's awesome, however I've forgotten the new development name....... it's a blue tower, yeah??

anyhow, loving the base of AWB House:

http://metropolis.tayser.net/projects/cbd/awb2201041.jpg

Originally posted by tayser
[B]^^ that's awesome, however I've forgotten the new development name....... it's a blue tower, yeah??

The development is called: "Q Apartments"
A little gem of a building, it will retain the original 3 storey bluestone Frank Lloyd Wright inspired base and rise 10 storeys above that as a mainly blue glass curtain wall scraper.

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thankfully 'the blob' aka greenwich village is on ice. the entire 9000-odd sqm site is up for lease, probably the first-time developer Pro-Equity from Sydney tried for to much? 315+ apartments in 24 levels is alot to sell. Maybe they'll come back with a Wills Tower like desing that would sell easier: 190 would be a good figure in a slimmed tower with the same height.

the website is still going though - hideous or not?
http://www.greenwichvillage.net.au/images/picPop22.jpg

Btw, forgot to let you all know that AWB moved into their new premises this week (Monday). It's been broken in.

And....
The WALL at AWB is being painted white and it looks better for it.

Who knows, this could start a trend...:)

Yep, top half of the building windows are now shining brightly at night - more B@@F for the Winter early evening office building light show..

The bottom half still looks unoccupied. Obviously only got a pre-committment for half the building..

http://metropolis.tayser.net/projects/cbd/market/market3001041.jpg

great towers, I just hate blank walls.

surely they're gonig to rebuild the LMR / crown?

http://metropolis.tayser.net/projects/cbd/misc/pacintl3001041.jpg

But blank walls leave more room for highrise right next door. If they had glass all around them, then we couldn't have wall-to-wall highrise, only towers on podiums (which isn't bad, but a mix of both is better).

true, but case in point:

look at Seidler's crapheap on Spring Street - TWENTY YEARS and counting without any adjoining buildings, AND we'll probably have to wait til H***y cark's it in respect to building anything around it, just have a read here and you'll know what I mean: http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=85904

bleagh!

[/non-symmetrical / non-wholesome building bash for the day]

:)

I walked down Latrobe Street today and was pleasantly surprised at how good the AWB building now looks with the painted West wall. If only they would paint the BHP-Billiton North wall and pleasantly surprise me again!

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James Gibbs 1728

Digital zoom....I need a new camera!! hehe

http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/lukekasper/mondaraine.jpg

Some interesting news. A planning application has been submitted for the demolition of existing building, construct a 26 storey building with ground level retail, 126 residential apartments and 119 associated car spaces at 60 Market Street.

They must be planning to build another tower on the Flinders Lane frontage, altghough it would be a pretty tight fit!

Went and had a look up close today to see what has been done and the good news is that it is definitely being reclad and not just painted! The other thing is that the render they have in the display rooms is different from the original render and it appears that they are adding five floors on top of the existing building, not just three. The buiding now looks more modern in style instead of post-modern, with the top five floors given a different treatment from the rest of the building and jutting out to give the building a top heavy appearance.
As for Grollo's news of a new 26 storey building on the same site, he must be correct about the Flinders lane frontage.

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A great view of the potential of this "Market Precinct".
http://www.fitzroys.com.au/media/auctions/350_william/images/350_william_01.jpghttp://www.fitzroys.com.au/media/auctions/350_william/images/350_william_02.jpg
http://www.fitzroys.com.au/media/auctions/350_william/images/350_william_03.jpghttp://www.fitzroys.com.au/media/auctions/350_william/images/350_william_04.jpg

This forgotten beauty has filled in a bit of sky as you drive north up Spencer.;)

nice shots guys :angel1:

I walk past this site everyday and didn't think this thread existed! The tower certainly has progressed BIG TIME since these latest shots were taken! Will have to get my digicam out and take some shots.

Like I said, it has progressed BIG TIME :D
http://www.iffd.net/scott/Mondrianewide.jpg

I can tell you it looks damn impressive in that shot.....

But the other side is bad!!!! Plain concrete all the way up!!!

Why does this happen? When it gets taller, it will harm the view from that side.. Hopefully, it will be painted, because it's a shocker at the moment, just like BHP at QV!

Originally posted by Melb1
But the other side is bad!!!! Plain concrete all the way up!!!
Why does this happen? QV! [/B]

i think what normally happens is they come to an agreement with the people with the next door that serves both parties! its called consulting stake holders :colgate:

Originally posted by Melb1
But the other side is bad!!!! Plain concrete all the way up!!!

Why does this happen? When it gets taller, it will harm the view from that side.. Hopefully, it will be painted, because it's a shocker at the moment, just like BHP at QV!
Its the property boundary and the blank wall allows the neighbour to build a building up to the boundary at the same height if not higher. If there were windows on the property boundary, then the neighbouring building would have to be set back or cut short, and we don't want that!

Great!! We finally get some photo updates and nothing but red 'x' s!

(and I tried to cut properties and paste.....)
How frustrating......

Maybe another tower in the future!!!

Address: 212-224 King Street, Melbourne, Victoria

Expressions of Interest closed 10 March 2004, 3.00pm

An exceptional development site in a high growth Western CBD location close to Docklands, the Legal Precinct, Bourke St and Collins St
Curent permit and plans for the construction of a 28 level building
Suit residential, hotel and commerical developers
Extensive 31* metre frontage to King Street and easy rear access
Current improvements comprise a vacant 1,800 sqm* office building

http://www.propertylook.com.au/listings/KF/KF_69/300/KF_69_27650_16314.jpg



*Approximately

Site m2: 601

There was a thread on this one, seems to have vanished :-(

29 floors, 99m high

http://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2003/08/207840.jpg

http://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2003/08/207843.jpg

Thanks Grollo. Looking at those plans, I remember it from a few months ago.

great shots! got any at more than 50dpi?