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Grollo
February 20th, 2003, 02:37 PM
Another 19 level 60m beauty for the St. Kilda Road Precinct (it's on Queens Road actually):

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/2083/1542083cl1037373886.jpg

Constructions pics with thanks to Tays:

http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/stkilda5.jpg

This is a very small site and the tower had to be squeezed in behind the heritage listed mansion (can you imagine when St. Kilda Road and Queens Road were lined with mansions like this each side all the way from the City to St. Kilda?):
http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/stkilda6.jpg

tayser
February 20th, 2003, 03:08 PM
it's going to be a very nice addition to an already semi-dense section of St. Kilda Road,

I did try and take a pic between the old Mansion and the other 12 or so level residential (behind) however a foreman for the site was giving me odd looks lol.

Is the tower going to be like a wedge shape ? as that's what the site between the Mansion and other tower is!

tays

Grollo
May 12th, 2003, 03:30 PM
Yve Apartments (http://www.yve.com.au)
576-578 St. Kilda Road
20 levels
64 metres
240 apartments
Woods Marsh Architects

The first Melbourne project by the Sunland Group (Q1) and it's a beauty:

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/05/193062.jpg

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2002/12/174040.jpg

Aussie Steve
May 13th, 2003, 01:41 AM
The display suit for this site should be up and ready in a few weeks. They have covered one of the 2 buildings on the site in a white sheet from top to bottom. It looks great when driving or traming along St Kilda Rd.

Blabbyboy
May 13th, 2003, 01:57 AM
That first render says sexy (busty) beast. The second render shows it's just another St Kilda Rd mid-level stump.

Aussie Steve
May 14th, 2003, 01:27 AM
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<td align=left valign=center> <smallfont> <b>Quote</B> <I>originally posted by silvermb </i></b> </smallfont> </td>
<tr><td align=left valign=top>c'mon people!

this is a ripping tower and is befitting of St Kilda rd. What a tower for Sunland to enter Melbourne with, and Woods Marsh continue to raise the bar.

Yve and Alto a few doors down; let the battle begin.</td></tr>
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I agree. They are great designs for St Kilda Road, a hell of a lot better then that Central Equity crap near Toorak Rd. These have been designed by leading architects and I can't wait to see the cranes from my balcony.

A-brain
May 14th, 2003, 06:56 AM
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<tr><td align=left valign=top>That first render says sexy (busty) beast. The second render shows it's just another St Kilda Rd mid-level stump.</td></tr>
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Yeah sorry blabby.. on this occasion I'm totally with the others..

I know in our quest for unending height we can get a little frustrated with 20 level proposals.. but we just have to accept that outside of RDT, St.Kilda Rd is always going to be limited to these height towers.. that is its character.

And based on that.. this tower is as stunning a proposal for St.Kilda Rd as you'll see !! It's all understated class, like Metropolis, which is what St.Kilda Rd is all about..

Aussie Steve
May 23rd, 2003, 01:48 AM
I drove past this site last week and it looked like the mansion was about to be lifted up to allow for the construction of the basement. I must have a look again this weekend.

tayser
May 23rd, 2003, 11:56 AM
calling silvermb........... you've been keeping track of this one, no ?

tays

jag
June 25th, 2003, 02:53 AM
Sales target - $1M to go.

Asbestos removal / strip to core demolition to commence within a few weeks.

Sol Sapir - Architect Project Manager

Builder - TBA

Demolition - TBA





Spy

tayser
June 25th, 2003, 09:29 AM
thanks for that jag.

added to the official list.

rendering to jog people's memory:

http://www.hallmarkapartments.com.au/media/rendering/rend-lg.jpg

Clem
June 25th, 2003, 09:55 AM
Generally a very nice design but I'm a bit worried about how those bare-concrete walls are going to look in decades to come...

tayser
June 25th, 2003, 10:03 AM
ahh another one who dislikes bare-concrete!

welcome to the club :D

redden
June 28th, 2003, 09:39 AM
I don't think it was the footings; when I looked this week. they were still excavating. It's very deep now, and extends under the old Mansion. Shouldn't be much longer before we get serious with concrete.

Muse
June 28th, 2003, 09:18 PM
Gateway will deifinitely be a great addition to St. Kilda Rd, without a doubt!

It will join Metropolis, Marquise, The Melburian and the the future YVE development as great architectural additons to St. Kilda Rd.

CGI of YVE:

http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/yverender1.jpg

silvermb
July 13th, 2003, 01:25 PM
must be some deep deep piles

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/gw1.JPG

tayser
July 26th, 2003, 06:23 AM
nice pic!

The drive from Chapel to the city via Dandy Road / Queens Road is gonna get a whole lot better when this baby rises ;)

BigVman
July 26th, 2003, 08:15 AM
Wow, drove past this baby this arvo (between Rialto and the Fish shop) and it's WAY excavated if you know what I mean. Thos pics don't do it justice the whole is very deep. It's all a bit surreal seeing this old mansion house sitting ini mid air!

silvermb
October 9th, 2003, 03:55 AM
been waiting since mid year for this to do something, but the sub levels are so intricate the core pit is just starting to form

last month, with the floor plates extending under the mansion
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/483gate1.jpg

current
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/483gate2.jpg

uewepuep
October 9th, 2003, 04:10 AM
Cool photos.

Blabbyboy
October 9th, 2003, 04:17 AM
They should stop work, fill it with water and call it the floating palace or put a glass bottom into it and make it the largest aquarium in the southern hemisphere!

tayser
October 9th, 2003, 10:04 AM
glad someone else saved this thread from being purged! :okay:

silvermb
October 9th, 2003, 01:05 PM
im more along your lines of thought tays,

there are plenty more projects at a more interesting stage than Eureka for the time being

kasperluke
October 9th, 2003, 01:33 PM
I asked about this ages ago somewhere on this forum! I didn't realise it had its own thread....this has been a hole in the ground for AGES! Looks like it is going now! How is it going to be built? Around the mansion?

silvermb
October 30th, 2003, 05:00 AM
i can fill in jag's first thread

demolition has begun, Delta as always have the job. The builders are Hamilton & Marino, another small-time builder stepping up to fill the shortage of building firms at the moment. Their site office and huts are onsite so safe to say its finally u/c.

a render i haven't seen before, another gem on St Kilda rd, good height

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/510/483hallmark_aerial.jpg

Dean
October 30th, 2003, 05:20 AM
Yeah it will be 1000% improvement on the current crap building thats defacing St Kilda Road atm.

along with 8 on Dorcas and Royal Domain .. some really nice developments under construction within 100m of each other, near the Shrine

Cheers

Dean - Melbourne

Aussie Steve
October 30th, 2003, 05:28 AM
Yeh, I was going to say that they have started work on this development on the weekend, but I forgot to post it. More great news for St Kilda Road.

bearbrass
October 30th, 2003, 05:29 AM
Originally posted by Dean
Yeah it will be 1000% improvement on the current crap building thats defacing St Kilda Road atm.

along with 8 on Dorcas and Royal Domain .. some really nice developments under construction within 100m of each other, near the Shrine

Cheers

Dean - Melbourne

Isnt that the former Travlelodge Hotel/Motel building?

BraddyBoy
October 30th, 2003, 06:20 AM
Yes it is. :D

Dean
November 1st, 2003, 08:54 AM
Some good news for this stunner.

The Herald Sun today posted an article about this beautiful Sunland tower explaining that 70% of the aprtments are now sold (147/210) and constrcution will commence in February 2004 and to finish in early 2006.

This is probably the most awesome looking tower to ever grace St Kilda Road.. we should be glad its going ahead.

Cheers

Dean - Melbourne

tayser
November 1st, 2003, 11:15 AM
Bit of steam left in the old girl ;)

Grollo
November 1st, 2003, 02:09 PM
You beauty :-)

Wood Marsh are really setting the standard for residential design at the moment with YE5 and Yve two of the most innovative and beautiful residential buildings going up anywhere in the world at the moment.

Dean
November 1st, 2003, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by Grollo
You beauty :-)

Wood Marsh are really setting the standard for residential design at the moment with YE5 and Yve two of the most innovative and beautiful residential buildings going up anywhere in the world at the moment.

Amen to that...

DrDan
November 2nd, 2003, 06:57 AM
Yeah, one of my favourite Melbourne proposed buildings.

redden
November 3rd, 2003, 03:49 PM
Originally posted by Grollo
You beauty :-)

Wood Marsh are really setting the standard for residential design at the moment with YE5 and Yve two of the most innovative and beautiful residential buildings going up anywhere in the world at the moment.
Yes, in the 7 weeks I've just spent in South America (mainly Brazil), I didn't see anything that came close to Melbourne's current crop of talls. Oscar Niemeyer's (Brasilia's designer) 30+ year old curvy apartment building in Belo Horizonte was a rare pleasure, and made me think of Yve. Brazilian cities look spectacular from a distance ( e.g. Recife, a place I'd barely heard of, with a setting very similar to the Gold Coast, but with 3.7 million population), but are very ordinary close up. The next year or two will be so exciting to see all this inspiration realized.

BornMelb
November 14th, 2003, 04:06 AM
I believe Hamilton and Marino have been chosen to work on this one.

$35 million contract

Grollo
November 26th, 2003, 04:37 AM
The Chevron Hotel saga continues with a new planning application which will see the existing hotel restored to it's former glory and a multi-level residential building built behind it (don't know how many levels yet.).

The latest plans come after the collapse of the previous plan for a 23 storey tower on the site because of rising construction costs and lack of sales. The owners of the site then mooted the possibility of subdividing the site and building a low rise office and residnetial building on the corner and selling off 1/3 of the site on which a 60m tower could be built. This plan also hasn't gone ahead as the hotel will now be retained and the development covers the whole site. It's being assessed by DSE so it's over 25,000 sqaure metres, whcih is a good sign.

The Cheveron Hotel buildings will be restored and converted into office and residential apartments. McDonalds Australia is listed as the developer and the proposal includes a restaurant so maybe a new HQ for McDonalds Australia (McApartments???).

Details:

TPM 03/000054

Urbis Pty Ltd Jason Wood ON BEHALF OF MCDONALDS AUSTRALIA LTD LVL 10, 120 COLLINS ST MELBOURNE VIC 3000

Restoration of the existing Chevron building & use for office, restaurant & residential apartments & construction of a multi storey building for use as residential apartments with assoc basement carparking

The Chevron Hotel in it's heyday:

http://www.statelibrary.vic.gov.au/pictoria/b/0/4/im/b04463.jpg

BraddyBoy
November 26th, 2003, 05:03 AM
That's awesome that they are retaining the old hotel section :D

Aussie Steve
November 26th, 2003, 05:04 AM
I hope this proposal also dites the dust as the existing hotel building is a disgrace and needs to be demolished NOT restored. We need a major tower on that major corner of St Kilda Rd.

BraddyBoy
November 26th, 2003, 05:10 AM
As usual Steve is talking sh|t. That building is a classic. :bash:

bearbrass
November 26th, 2003, 05:10 AM
Originally posted by BraddyBoy
That's awesome that they are retaining the old hotel section :D
I agree there is no reasonthat the old girl cannot be tarted up as maybe a boutiuqe hotel and it would suit modern apartments without losing the charm and charatcher of this Melbourne icon.

bearbrass
November 26th, 2003, 05:13 AM
Originally posted by BraddyBoy
That's awesome that they are retaining the old hotel section :D
I agree there is no reasonthat the old girl cannot be tarted up as maybe a boutiuqe hotel and it would suit modern apartments without losing the charm and charatcher of this Melbourne icon.

aussie steve there is plenty of room on that site to build a biggie scraper behind the main building without destoying the Chevron..

Aussie Steve
November 26th, 2003, 05:29 AM
I presume none of you live near by and none of you have been inside and none of you have seen the outside in recent months either!

The building is of no "heritage" significance and St Kilda Rd would be better served with a quality building not a revamp of this old dump!

Aussie Steve
November 26th, 2003, 05:31 AM
Do we have a lift core for this development yet? Its been a while since there has been any news. Maybe I shoudl go for a walk, since I am the closest!

BraddyBoy
November 26th, 2003, 05:51 AM
Steve, calm down dude. Of course the place looks crap now. It's unrestored. The Chevron is a Melbourne icon and during it's heyday was 'the' place to stay for Melbourne's entertainment industry/celebs etc etc. I happen to like its 'grand american hotel of the 1950s' (well thats what i call it) styling.

A-brain
November 26th, 2003, 08:08 AM
I agree.. the old hotel style building should be retained.. but a big mother tower could be easily built in the carpark behind and look respectful of the old building..

barneybuck
November 26th, 2003, 12:08 PM
From the 1950s to the 1970s before the Southern Cross was built the Chevron WAS the place to stay in Melbourne.
All the visiting international stars would stay there.
I hope it will be saved as a reminder of a past era.

silvermb
November 27th, 2003, 09:05 AM
south side of the mansion is up to ground and complete. north side which is the tower is back to ground and the core is on its way, probably level one.

u have a camera Aussie Steve?

Blabbyboy
November 28th, 2003, 03:16 AM
Originally posted by A-brain
I agree.. the old hotel style building should be retained.. but a big mother tower could be easily built in the carpark behind and look respectful of the old building..
I agree. Does the name SANDERSON mean anything to you? I mean, a POS el crappo building on the outside, stunning on the inside. Melbourne should always lead the way for London to follow. :D

jag
December 11th, 2003, 03:14 AM
Im glad and I hope they retain the old hotel, just like they did further up the road with the whatsitcalled? next to Melb Grammar.
Nothing what a coat of paint wont fix.

St Kilda Rd used to be a beautifull boulevard until they fucked it up with all those ugly dated shitbox office towers.

If you want to see what StKilda Rd used to look like just check out Google images for St Charles Ave in New Orleans. Its the same on a smaller scale but with trams and the whole bit.

Grollo
December 19th, 2003, 02:24 PM
Definately U/C now:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/510/135hallmark1191203.jpg

Tony P
December 19th, 2003, 02:41 PM
ahh another one who dislikes bare-concrete!

welcome to the club :D

Bah! ;)

Based on the bare concrete in the render, this one is already shaping up to be my future favourite! What a little stunner!

:guns1:

Grollo
December 19th, 2003, 03:01 PM
At least the bare, rendered concrete will look better than the horrid brick walls that grace the building at the moment :-)

Aussie Steve
December 31st, 2003, 01:58 AM
My partner and I went for a walk last night and saw that there is a planning notice up at 505 St Kilda Rd for the demolition of the existing 12 storey office tower and the erection of a 21 storey residential tower. The existing office tower is fromt he 1960s and was repainted in the late 1990s in a green/blue color. Its very ugly, but the new apartment tower will have amazing views over Fawkner Park.

tayser
December 31st, 2003, 02:09 AM
This one doesn't ring a bell??

anyone got any renders?

Grollo
December 31st, 2003, 04:09 AM
Missed this one! St. Kilda road is absolutley booming at the moment with proposals everywhere, I guess people think it's a safer bet than Docklands or Southbank at the moment. I will do a big st kilda road post with more good news when I get a bit of spare time

Grollo
January 7th, 2004, 03:12 PM
St. Kilda Road has had a very steady rate of skyscraper construction over the past five years (around 3 towers completed per year) and that looks set to continue with 16 towers u/c and proposed.

Recent Approvals:

Eden Tower (extension of the existing Eden on the Park Hotel and apartments)
9 Queens Road
61m, 20 levels:
http://www.emporis.co.uk/files/transfer/6/2004/01/238412.jpg

http://www.emporis.co.uk/files/transfer/6/2004/01/238416.jpg

454 St. Kilda Road (apartments/serviced apartments)
64m, 18 levels:
http://www.emporis.co.uk/files/transfer/6/2004/01/238425.jpg

http://www.emporis.co.uk/files/transfer/6/2004/01/238426.jpg

- 428 St. Kilda Road (Hotel/apartments)
64m, 20 levels:
http://213.203.248.221/files/transfer/6/2003/06/199564.jpg

Other News:

- The Hallmark is now U/C
- Yve Apartments are set to start construction with a month or so.
- Linnium Apartments have been rereleased as Aquarelle Apartments.
- A new application for a 21 storey apartment building has been lodged for 505 St. Kilda Road (someone will have to go down to DSE and have a look at the plans :-)
- A new application for a mutil-storey apartment building has been lodged for the Chevron site (someone will have to go down to DSE and have a look at the plans :-)
- The RVIB tower is still being assessed by a planning panel.

Under Construction
1 Royal Domain Tower 162m 42
2 The Hallmark 70m 22
3 Gateway Apartments 61m 19

Approved

1 428 St. Kilda Road, 64m, 20
3. Yve Apartments, 64m, 20
5. 454 St. Kilda Road, 64m, 18
2 Eden Tower, 61m, 20
4. Alto Apartments, 60m, 19
5. Aquarelle Apartments, 40m, 12

Proposed

1 505 St. Kilda Road, 67m?, 21
2. RVIB Tower, 67m, 19
3. The Chevron ? ?

Completed in the past 5 years:

1. The Promenade, 85m, 25, 2000
2. City Condos, 85m, 25, 1999
3. The Princeton, 82m, 24, 1999
4. Marquise, 64m, 20, 2002
5. Aurora, 65m, 20, 1999
6. The Metropolis, 60m, 19, 2003
7. St. Kilda Road Towers, ?, 16, 2003
8. Mode Apartments, ?, 16, 2002
9. The Capri, ?, 16, 2001
10. Boulevarde 610, ?, 15, 2002
11. Vista, ?, 15, 2001
12. Scala Apartments, 45m, 14, 2003
13. The Metro, 13, 2001
14. The Plaza, 13, 2000
15. 209 Kings Way, 12, 2003

Go to Skyscrapers.com St. Kilda Road Zone listing for more details.

tayser
January 7th, 2004, 03:22 PM
454SK looks sweet as!

and I completely agree, St. Kilda Road's been somewhat of a quiet achiever of late, especially with RDT up the north end........ mmmmm ever since the cranes have become visible from the South East, I go through the daily ritual of trying to picture RDT at its full height (among other towers in Sthnk / CBD :D)

http://aardvark.tce.rmit.edu.au/Area-b/MApoint/Pic4hr.jpg

^ best. pic. ever.

CULWULLA
January 7th, 2004, 04:12 PM
wow, saint kilda is going off!
so most new ones planned hover around -60m/20storey mark. is this a new regulation so the skyline remains low or not many sites left?

Grollo
January 8th, 2004, 12:01 AM
The West side of of St. Kilda Road, which is in the City of Port Phillip) generally has 60m or 45m preferred height limit (plus 4m for architectural features, service levels...), you can go higher but Port Phillip are prettty tough on applications that dont comply.

The East side of St. Kilda Road, which is in the city of Melbourne, generally has a 60m preffered height limit, which is pretty flexible (usually 70m isn't much of a problem if the tower will not block views to the Shrine of Rememberance.)

Overall the height controls have done an excellent job of protecting the character of St. Kilda Road since the 1980's creating a unique character with two rows of towers around 60m on both sides of the road rather than scattered larger towers which would have been the result if there were no height controls.

Dean
January 8th, 2004, 03:03 AM
You're a plethora of information Grollo. good stuff

454 looks good, however im not sure about 428's big white wall

i have to say... thank god for the Hallmark redevelopment. one of the biggest blights on StKilda Rd is soon to be gone forever.

Scala was Australand's first venture into Melbourne and look what they've moved onto. So hopefully Sunland who start construction of Yve very soon can move onto something huge in Melbourne in future as well.

Cheers

Dean - Melbourne

Blabbyboy
January 8th, 2004, 03:42 AM
As Deano said, 454 is good, 458 is shite - brutalist crap.

tayser
January 8th, 2004, 03:47 AM
Does the 45m / 60m height limit apply to Queens Road Grollo?

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/hotdaypic.jpg

(looks more restrictive?)

Grollo
January 8th, 2004, 04:08 AM
Queens Road is 60m from where that pic was taken to Arthur Street and then 30-40m (15-25m setback from Queens Road) down to near the Junction where Gateway is U/C where it goes up to 45m.

So the height controls gradually get lower the further from the CBD you get, except for the area near St. Kilda Junction which is considered to be a gateway area so the heights go back up again.

Aussie Steve
January 10th, 2004, 05:55 AM
The more highrise along St Kilda Rd the better. There are so many sites that could be redeveloped and if we get 3 - 4 a year, that will be great! :D

Aussie Steve
January 15th, 2004, 05:12 AM
As of last week, we are now at ground level and the core should be rising above street level within a month or 2.

silvermb
February 9th, 2004, 12:47 AM
fairly simple from now on, amazing to think they lifted the mansion for the tower to fit into place. interesting they're not using a tower crane for this one, construction will be nice and slow

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/510/483gwe_20040204.jpg

compare it to the render

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/2083/1542083cl1037373886.jpg

Aussie Steve
February 24th, 2004, 02:03 AM
Eden on the Park

http://www.gtimages.com.au/images/portfolio/big_eden_on_the_park.jpg

tayser
February 24th, 2004, 07:40 AM
:)

http://metropolis.tayser.net/projects/stkildaroad/hallmark/hallmark2402041.jpg

jcocks
March 12th, 2004, 06:03 PM
St Kilda road is awesome in that you really can't tell when you're entering the city - there are towers all the way down and before you know it you're in the city.

I have very fond memories of st kilda road and these new towers will make it even better :D

silvermb
March 24th, 2004, 11:27 AM
RVIB failed to get its st kilda rd site re-zoned for mixed use due to one objection from wesley college - bastards.

even though an independent panel approved the plans MCC rejected the plans after the late objection, anyway the plan was for two residential towers and an office block, slightly different to the scheme i remember Grollo outlining?

RVIB aren't too happy as they need the money so i guess an appeal is coming?

Grollo
March 24th, 2004, 12:51 PM
The proposal was presented to council with only minor changes, one 19 storey apartment tower and one 8 storey office building.

The independent panel supported the application, Heritage Victoria issued a permit for the development, the planning department supported the application and it was passed at the Council Planning commitee.

Wesley college want to aquire the site in the future for a possible expansion, so they want to stop the RVIB doing anything with the site forever, just in case they need to aquire it one day. Refusing it is a purely political decision and would almost definately be overturned on appeal.

Aussie Steve
March 24th, 2004, 01:20 PM
I am off to Wesley tomorrow night for the launch of their most recent school history. I might try and ask a few questions about the RVIB.

Billy the Kid
March 24th, 2004, 01:21 PM
Lets hope common sense prevails and this project goes ahead.
So much for "christian charity" But then again "business is business"

tayser
March 24th, 2004, 03:59 PM
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/03/24/1079939717256.html

Row stalls high-rise project
By Martin Boulton
March 25, 2004

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2004/03/24/rvb_sketch_2503.jpg

An artist's impression of the plans for the Royal Victorian Institute for the Blind.

A massive redevelopment of the Royal Victorian Institute for the Blind in St Kilda Road has stalled amid pressure from a private school.

Melbourne City Council is expected tonight to formally delay for at least nine months a decision on the $50 million project.

The move comes amid speculation that the sole objector, Wesley College, wants to buy the site for a new school for international students.

Wesley College chief operating officer John Hickman denied the school wanted to buy the site, but said the land should not be rezoned for commercial use.

"You can never say never, but there are no plans currently to acquire the site," he said.

"Wesley College has worked through the planning process and feel the site is appropriately zoned (and) is an important part of the St Kilda Road streetscape.

"Having been used and zoned for educational and institutional use for over 100 years, the RVIB site should retain its current zone to allow for the growth and development of the education sector into the future."

The RVIB wants to rezone the land for construction of two residential towers - eight and 19-storeys high - with office space, a convenience store, meeting rooms and a gym.

Chief executive Doug Kent said the site had been occupied by the RVIB for more than 140 years. For it to continue to provide important services, the organisation needed the redevelopment to go ahead.

"We have been following the protocol for a rezoning meticulously for the past three years," Dr Kent said.

An independent panel appointed by Planning Minister Mary Delahunty last year recommended the site be rezoned, a decision supported by the council's planning staff.

In September 2002, Heritage Victoria issued a permit for the redevelopment. It stated that the RVIB heritage building and Ormond Hall must be restored - at a cost of $1.6 million.

Developer Becton is close to winning approval for its controversial student housing project in Swanston Street, Carlton, opposite Melbourne University.

Last night, Melbourne City Council, a key objector to the original plan, said it welcomed changes to the $160 million project.

Ms Delahunty is expected to approve the modified plan next month.

- with Royce Millar

Aussie Steve
March 25th, 2004, 01:01 AM
I haven't seen the plans for the RVIN, but from that little pic above, I think its a great development response to a small strip of land. I am glad to see that most of the open space on the corner of St Kilda Rd & Moubray St will be retain. Wesley College should be told to bugger off. Give the RVIB its rezoning and planning permit ASAP!

silvermb
April 5th, 2004, 11:57 AM
time to change the heading tays

might see a core say june after they excavate the whole site a few levels down for parking, but interesting none the less now with the demo

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/yve 20040405.JPG

Grollo
April 5th, 2004, 12:47 PM
Excellent, another one to add to the list :-)

Aussie Steve
April 6th, 2004, 01:00 AM
Forgot to say that demolition started well over 2 weeks ago. I will keep my eyes open on this one, considering I live so close to it!

plotstyle
April 7th, 2004, 06:06 AM
the display sweet was truely amazing.....

eeeeZeeee
April 7th, 2004, 12:34 PM
I read a few weeks ago that Lleyton Hewitt has bought a penthouse in Yve for 4 million. I takes one third of the top floor with the remaining two being bought by some business man who is going to combine them into a super penthouse.

plotstyle
April 15th, 2004, 01:31 PM
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~wadad/mypic20.jpg
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~wadad/mypic21.jpg
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~wadad/mypic22.jpg http://members.optusnet.com.au/~wadad/mypic23.jpg
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~wadad/mypic24.jpg
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~wadad/mypic25.jpg
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~wadad/mypic26.jpg
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~wadad/mypic27.jpg
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~wadad/mypic28.jpg
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~wadad/mypic29.jpg

well i finally got to borrow a digital camera again i was going to got to the top of the core but i thought it might be a bit risky these shots where very rushed hope u enjoy the detail...

im hoping to have a camera in a month and contribute weekly

tayser
April 15th, 2004, 01:49 PM
holy crap......... now that truly is what you call detail!

.....but one question: how?

plotstyle
April 15th, 2004, 02:37 PM
holy crap......... now that truly is what you call detail!

.....but one question: how?

i find that the best way to understand buildings is to get up close
:runaway:

tayser
April 15th, 2004, 02:39 PM
LOL!

:runaway: indeed. ;)

top work though, I was pleasantly surprised yesterday when I went past it - it was almost Eureka-like slow for a bit (due to complexity of the project) but eh, it's all good.

plotstyle
April 15th, 2004, 03:03 PM
if you want to see a fast project i think the riveria might be the one as its a fixed price contract im guessing anyway...

silvermb
April 16th, 2004, 02:23 AM
who's the builder of this tower? no visible signage on/around the site.

silvermb
April 16th, 2004, 02:38 AM
site is really u/c now, not much has happened in the past few months but its really moving now

big demag assembling the tower, no cabin/jib as yet. piling the real carpark, i think there'll be a 9-10 level addition on the carpark, similar in design to the taller tower. all the concrete going into the bowels of the tower and the brick facade is being strippd top-down similar to 15 William.

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/hma 20040406.JPG

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/hmk04.JPG

silvermb
April 21st, 2004, 02:06 PM
a couple more projects which are in the backlog along with all the others

572 st kilda rd
which is actually the huge site cr Quenns rd/Beatrice st, aka Grosvenor Tower. on hold for now but a real looker if it gets up eventaully
http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/grosvenor.JPG

this is 572 st kilda rd (which will replace the mansion the the first pic), cr st kilda/Beatrice st, redholme apartments
http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/redholme.JPG

opposite these two are Alto and Yve and one the other side of St Kilds rd is the proposed RVIB tower, not a bad corner....

A-brain
April 22nd, 2004, 01:31 AM
UPDATE: The existing buildings are gone! Razed to the ground and the first piling machines are already on site.

tays: I think you should edit this to official 'PROJECT: Yve Apartments' status..

Grollo
April 22nd, 2004, 01:32 AM
That sign on 572 St. Kilda Road has been there for quite a while. What I don't understand is how they could get premission to demolish Warwillah, which is the mansion at 572 St. Kilda Road:
http://statelibrary.vic.gov.au/jcollins/0/1/8/im/jc018149.jpg

It is protected by a heritage overlay, is one of only 5 remianing mansions on St. Kilda Road, and is in excellent condition.

Also at 55 Queens Road is Grosvenor mansion:
http://www.walkingmelbourne.com/images/grosvenor.jpg

This building is also protected by a heritgae overly and is one of only 4 remiaing manisions on Queens Road.

It's hard to tell from the pictures but maybe they are both proposals for towers on the same site behind Warwillah?

Aussie Steve
April 22nd, 2004, 01:44 AM
I think the 2 towers above are one and the same project, just redesigned. I think the tower is behind Warwillah. Any tower near Grosvenor will be built on Queens Road. I am almost certain both mansions will be retained.

tayser
April 22nd, 2004, 09:27 AM
^^ naw, I'll be merging it into a larger St. Kilda Road thread wsoon (gimme a week or two to get other stuff up and running first)

Favco750
April 25th, 2004, 02:52 PM
Sooner or later I will see you taking your wonderful photos. The Demag is a 120t crane and the rest of the tower crane was supposed to go up this weekend but some foul weather on Friday seems to have changed this. The tower crane will be a Favelle M380D. Six additional floors going on top.

kasperluke
April 26th, 2004, 11:49 AM
nice pics there plotstyle! I went past the other day too.. was suprised to see the core at level 6 or 7 (I counted very quickly)!

silvermb
May 5th, 2004, 01:34 PM
this tower would sit behind the Grosvenor mansion and is separate to the Redholme tower - different projects.

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/grosvenor.JPG

the new chevron plan, a real dissapointment!
not so much size but a real poor, typical design. $100 million project with three interconnected 10-odd level buildings of office and residential. construction commences early next year. at least they've retained the mansions.

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/chevron.JPG

just the rub it in, the previous proposal

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/chevron3.JPG

plotstyle
May 5th, 2004, 01:41 PM
wonder why they changed the design....

silvermb
May 5th, 2004, 01:41 PM
and one more, 333 st kilda rd, anyone know what site this is? dko architects, seeking approval

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/333stkilda.JPG

Aussie Steve
May 6th, 2004, 03:09 AM
That low rise design for the southern portion of the Chevron site is very poor. There is nothing interesting about the building. I am ok with it being low, but its poor! I would like to see them build a tall tower at the back as was originally proposed.

Favco750
May 6th, 2004, 02:18 PM
crane going up saturday.

tayser
May 13th, 2004, 02:29 PM
http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/8349/101528349ml1083743663.jpg

:)

DrDan
May 13th, 2004, 03:16 PM
wowee!
let's hope it looks as good as it does in the renders.
Unlike another tower Sunland is building... *cough* Q1 *cough*

A-brain
May 14th, 2004, 02:46 AM
If I can be the negative Nelly..

As much as we are lauding this design as brilliant - as indeed it does look in concept renders, in reality this is a pretty simple design which - although elegant - given the wrong choice of facade could end up looking pretty invisible.

Now Sunland doesn't exactly have a good recent track record with exteriors either do they?

But having said that I'm sure considering the value of the place they will do something nice with the exterior treatment. It really comes down to those balconies:

-- They could do a 'Scala' and turn an ordinary box design into a beautiful looking building with great glass & exterior colours.

-- Or they could do a 'Metropolis' and turn a beatutiful Post-Modern Art-Deco design into a rather invisible tower with - I have to be honest - rather bland exterior look & finish.

Grollo
May 14th, 2004, 03:56 AM
Woods Marsh are great with materials and colours so I'm pretty confident it will look pretty schmick :-)

Blabbyboy
May 14th, 2004, 08:05 AM
Woods Marsh are great with materials and colours so I'm pretty confident it will look pretty schmick :-)
Agree!

tayser
June 4th, 2004, 04:46 PM
Clearer render

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/8786/101508786ml1086091525.jpg

Aussie Steve
June 9th, 2004, 02:18 AM
Chevron complex gets go-ahead (http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/06/08/1086460294481.html)
By Susannah Petty
The Age (www.theage.com.au)
9 June 2004

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2004/06/08/09CHEVRON,1.jpg
The landmark Chevron building will be reincarnated as a 300-apartment complex.

The long-dormant Chevron site on St Kilda Road is set for a grand overhaul, this time by a pair of Sydney developers with plans for a $160 million apartment project.

Their company, 519 St Kilda Road Developments, has received approval to build a 300-apartment complex on the high-profile site.

The scheme is the second attempt to breathe life into the site since the building, once a ritzy hotel patronised by the likes of Ava Gardner and Frank Sinatra, closed its doors as a popular nightclub in 2001.

The former owner, Development Ventures, spent three years trying to raise its own $100 million-plus apartment project, but sold the site late last year for $16.5 million.

The latest project will incorporate more apartments, although the developers say it will be vastly different. Central to the plans is the restoration of the Chevron building into low-rise apartments. More apartments will rise behind this, ranging in height up to nine storeys.

The first apartments will roll out in August, priced from $280,000 for a one-bedroom apartment to $990,000 for one of 19 penthouse pads.

The development was approved last week by the Department of Sustainability and Environment in the face of concerns the near-city apartment market is oversupplied.

Figures from the Real Estate Institute of Australia show the vacancy rate for properties within 10 kilometres of the city climbed to 6.9 per cent in April from 4 per cent in March.

But Daniel Hausman and Lance Hodgkinson, equal partners in 519 St Kilda Road Developments, say the project will fill a niche. "There isn't a lot of other supply in this area that we're competing against and we're quite confident there's a lack of supply that will show through in the near future," Mr Hausman said.
__________________________________________________________________

I think this is very sad for such an important site. The buildings on this suite are not worth preserving, especially if we can build a wonderful gateway building into Commercial/Malvern Rd from St Kilda Rd!

Muse
June 9th, 2004, 04:16 AM
Ah, goodo. Something that will retain the buildings fronting St Kilda Rd. Sure, a frumpy low-rise but might be nicley designed. Yippo!

bearbrass
June 9th, 2004, 10:34 AM
Better than whats there at the moment but a little disappointing for such a prestgious site.

tayser
June 22nd, 2004, 09:59 AM
Anyone seen this enormous hole in the ground recently?

:eek2:

Aussie Steve
June 23rd, 2004, 05:39 AM
Yeh, its still a big hole in the ground.

silvermb
June 28th, 2004, 11:26 AM
http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/hma 200406.JPG

ive got to agree with Tony P, this tower will be it and a bit!

the old facade has been stripped and the footings are in for the sub levels so its from the ground up from now on

plotstyle
June 28th, 2004, 11:31 AM
nice shots! we need more good weather and less work!

silvermb
July 6th, 2004, 11:37 AM
not too long before it starts to rise, see if you can spot the poodle onsite... "No ticket, no start!"

http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/yve200407.jpg

plotstyle
July 6th, 2004, 12:40 PM
great shots when the actions on as usual!

tayser
July 15th, 2004, 04:23 AM
http://afr.com/premium/articles/2004/07/14/1089694419453.html [Premium]

Sunland on another St Kilda foray
Nicole Lindsay

The Sunland Group is making its second foray into Melbourne's premium apartment market with a $100 million project on St Kilda Road.

The company is developing the project in a 50-50 joint venture with the Pellicano Group which paid $4.2 million for the site at 454 St Kilda Roadin 1998.

The 2315 square metre site overlooking Albert Park Lake to the west and the Fawkner Gardens to the east, will be developed into luxury apartments.

It is on a very well-placed corner of St Kilda Road with Arthur Street running to the north and Queens Lane along its back.

This latest venture follows the phenomenal success Sunland has had with its first Melbourne apartment project, Yve on St Kilda Road, despite a slowdown in the city's apartment market.

While some other St Kilda Road projects, including the Chevron site across the road, have struggled to sell during the downturn, Sunland's focus on the luxury top-end of the market has helped the Queensland developer carve itself out a niche.

The company's father and son managing directors, Soheil and Sahba Abedian, believe that St Kilda Road is the premier place to build apartments in Melbourne.

Soheil Abedian said: "We sold it [Yve] in a very short period of time and we sold it from top to bottom rather than the cheaper apartments selling first."

More than 80 per cent of the 210 apartments at Yve situated at 576 St Kilda Road sold before construction started and its double penthouse fetched a record Melbourne price.

It is understood that tennis player Lleyton Hewitt paid $8.35 million to buy Yve's most expensive apartment and will move in after he marries fellow tennis player Kim Clijsters.

The new luxury apartment project will go up in place of the old Becton Centre, a two-storey glass-fronted office building constructed in 1980.

Mr Abedian said: "On the basis of the success we had with Yve, we have entered into negotiation with the owner of 454 St Kilda Road and we have finalised the joint venture between the two companies."

"We will provide the expertise and building to create 100 apartments."

The Pellicano Group, which owns the land, is prominent in Melbourne for developing and building industrial and commercial properties.

The nearly 40-year-old company owns five business and technology parks in Melbourne.

Last week, Sunland and City Pacific subsidiary CP1 unveiled plans for a $1 billion apartment development in the heart of Surfers Paradise.

CP1 will buy the Mercure Resort site on the Gold Coast for $61 million and will develop a new residential precinct with the Sunland Group.

Under planning rules, the apartment towers could be up to 30 storeys high and up to 2000 rooms could be developed.

"We are looking at a few other projects. The slowdown in the market has given us a few opportunities."

"When the market slows down we jump in and put our portfolio in place."

__________________________

I'll eventually merge all the smaller St. Kilda Road project threads into this one - except RDT.

Dean
July 15th, 2004, 04:42 AM
^^ do u mind deleting my thread on the same topic

Cheers

Dean - Melbourne

Grollo
July 15th, 2004, 05:32 AM
Palazzo Versace St. Kilda Road? hehe

Aussie Steve
July 15th, 2004, 05:33 AM
Hey Mr T, maybe you should group all the St Kilda Rd projects together!

Grollo
July 15th, 2004, 05:34 AM
A tower was approved for the site about 6 months ago. It was 18 levels and 64m high. It's not really clear form the article if they will be using the approved design or a new design.

See here for more details and pics:
http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=202539

Aussie Steve
July 15th, 2004, 05:39 AM
The brain is working overtime to figure out what is on that site at the moment. I think its a 2 storey, blue/gray lowrise buildiung that looks like it should be in the outer suburbs. I think its occupied by a chemist and newsagent. Am I right? I think I will take the tram home tonight to see! Either way, this is great news for St Kilda Rd. Plenty of sites for highrise! :D Not lowrise like Chevron :(

tayser
July 15th, 2004, 05:50 AM
Hey Mr T, maybe you should group all the St Kilda Rd projects together!

I'm planning on doing that

Click (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=118184)

:)

tayser
July 15th, 2004, 02:19 PM
Merged YVE, HALLMARK, GATEWAY, 505 ST KILDA ROAD, NEW PLANS FOR CHEVRON HOTEL & "St. Kilda Road update" threads.

Aussie Steve
July 16th, 2004, 02:10 AM
YVE still has a very big hole in the ground, but there is still no crane!

But I think I have bad news about another St Kilda Rd project. Alto (http://www.altoapartments.com.au/) is dead. The signs have come down and there is no action :(

silvermb
August 1st, 2004, 02:17 PM
gateway & yve

http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/gwe200407.jpg

http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/yve2004071.jpg

Aussie Steve
August 2nd, 2004, 01:36 AM
There are still a number of sites along St Kilda Rd that need a move along!

Tenders for the new (crappy) Chevron development are still being called for in The Age!

silvermb
August 8th, 2004, 12:25 PM
a little more info on Sunland's second tower. the 18L, 64m tower will be replaced by a 21L building so it seems that it's probably a new design

anyone know whats happening on the cr Queens rd & Lorne st, seems demolition is about to begin on an old 6L building, another development site on the way

and one of smaller projects that fly under the radar, Silverpoint Apartments
http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/seo 20040722.jpg

tayser
August 8th, 2004, 12:35 PM
is that right near Deano's joint?

Aussie Steve
August 9th, 2004, 09:30 AM
Silverpoint Apartments
http://www.equityalliancegroup.com.au/Images/spext.jpg

And that old building on the corner of Lorne St & Queens Way had a planning notice on it months and months ago. I never read it as I was flying past in my car at the time.

wooooossssshhhhhhh

That building is individualy listed in the cityof Port Phillip Planning Scheme Heritage Overlay. I don't know why!

It was the former John Bateman Motor Inn!

Dean
August 9th, 2004, 01:16 PM
is that right near Deano's joint?

Yep. I'm a few buildings to the left.

Favco750
August 12th, 2004, 12:38 PM
YVE still has a very big hole in the ground, but there is still no crane!

But I think I have bad news about another St Kilda Rd project. Alto (http://www.altoapartments.com.au/) is dead. The signs have come down and there is no action :(


Alto signs came down to begin work. My mate has an apartment on paper there and when I told him your rumour, he shit bricks and rang 'em up.

Crane coming to Yve, next few days.

Aussie Steve
August 12th, 2004, 01:09 PM
That is great news. I guess we have another project on our world famous boulevard about to start construction!

Grollo
August 12th, 2004, 02:15 PM
Alto signs came down to begin work. My mate has an apartment on paper there and when I told him your rumour, he shit bricks and rang 'em up.

Crane coming to Yve, next few days.

Talk about quiet achiever, St. Kilda Road is an established apartment market, unlike Southbank and Docklands. It has had a pretty constant rate of apartment development for nearly 80 years. Even in the early 80's when apartmnts were going up nowhere else they were still getting built on St. Kilda Road.

silvermb
August 16th, 2004, 10:47 AM
Gateway
under construction for over a year now, any builder worth their salt would have had it completed by now. notable lack of tower crane or mounted concrete pump or safety screens makes me think the developer chose a builder light on personnel and experience. it'll be a great project when completed in 2009
http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/gwe 200408.jpg

Yve
favco another crane on this project or not?
http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/yve 200408.jpg

plotstyle
August 16th, 2004, 11:04 AM
nice stuff :)

hahaha gateway has been going *** slow its a joke... like 2 floor plates in 3 months

mabye they getting the cranes/workers off peak i dunno what to make of it ...

Bronteboy
August 17th, 2004, 04:33 AM
big tower crane going in on st kilda road today - i was looking from other side of albert park lake, but maybe Sunland's 'Yve'??
yes, the rest of that one in silvermb's pic, i now see...

Favco750
August 17th, 2004, 10:21 AM
Silver
Gateway, developer may be builder. The mobile crane here is no slouch. It is a Demag AC 665 (250t) fitted with superlift, (same as the yellow Conmor/Boom one) It certainly is taking some time. There was an old 100t grove here for a while as well last year. As you note, the building seems to be being built without alot of the labour and time savings devices that we are used to like screens, deck mounted pumps, and tower crane. However, it may be taking longer than usual, but I bet it's a bit cheaper. Depends on how quick they are to be sold I s'pose. There is a hoist there though which is a worksafe/union requirement to enable ambos to get men down on a stretcher. Anything over 5 floors usually scores one of these, otherwise or up to that height, usually there are double width scaffold stairs.

Yve, crane now complete today and yes to your question. Mobile crane there is Boom's Liehberr LTM 1200. (200t)

silvermb
September 1st, 2004, 06:11 AM
now thats what i call a construction photo, not too far off a core box

http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/yve 20040901.jpg

Favco750
September 1st, 2004, 01:47 PM
Base for second crane in. How did you get up on the pump Silver ??????????? and inside the job as well ?????????? The pump is set up there on the start of the big ramp into the job ???????????

silvermb
September 1st, 2004, 02:33 PM
he he he
gotta keep one or two secrets up my sleeve

how are you going to erect that crane favco? thete isn't much of that ramp left and i doubt a 200t DEMAG could use it as a stable footing, maybe use the other tower crane?

plotstyle
September 2nd, 2004, 05:51 AM
with the crane base do they just chopit when finished and leave the metal posts in the pad footing?

Favco750
September 2nd, 2004, 02:23 PM
Ha Ha, you probably guessed it there all by yourself. The crane going up is a 310?? and by using a split deck crane, the heaviest lift will be the boom at 12-14t, which will be directed straight at the other crane, so yeah, probably. The 3rd crane at Sth X was put up by crane 2, the third crane on FWP Comm same as well. It's not uncommon, it just need to be within the capabilities of the machine. That second tower at yve isn't all that far from the street either so with some friendly stroking of the right councillors, it wouldn't be impossible for a mobile crane from St K Rd.
Plotty, yep. with a bit of planning, the footing for the crane can be incorporated into the building so it just gets covered. Or keener people than me could jackhammer it out.

Aussie Steve
October 4th, 2004, 02:07 AM
Yve has had the western half of the car park almost completed to ground level, but the eastern half is yet to be completed. And there is going to be another crane that is yet to be erected.

Also, Gateway is at around level 7 with the core at level 10

silvermb
October 6th, 2004, 11:41 AM
hallmark tower
crane has been jacked, finally started to add the extra floors
http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/hma200410.jpg

silverpoint
not a bad little tower, bit of style with plenty of detail still to be applied
http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/aer200410.jpg

gateway
very light blue glaze over the rear of tower, if its the same colour glass appears on the queens road section, watch out!
http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/gwe200410.jpg

Grollo
October 6th, 2004, 01:21 PM
I think Gateway wins the award fro slowest construction ever.

BigVman
October 7th, 2004, 12:43 AM
Lol - i'd thought that gateway must have been finished by now !

Grollo
October 12th, 2004, 03:19 AM
Chevron (yawn):

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/1916/101931916cl1097220109.jpg

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/1916/101931916bl1097220107.jpg

Aussie Steve
October 12th, 2004, 03:24 AM
Yuck!

Boring!

Demolish and start again!

The Chevron (http://www.thechevron.com)

barneybuck
October 12th, 2004, 04:23 AM
One word - pathetic for such an important site.

tayser
October 17th, 2004, 03:14 PM
photo contest pic by Hacksaw:

http://img46.exs.cx/img46/3506/APP1.jpg

look at all the space left to fill on St. Kilda road! That's got to be 30+ years worth of sites to fill! :banana:

Muse
October 18th, 2004, 04:06 AM
lol tayser. Your working overtime on that one. What would be left of any heritage buildings, any recently completed low-rise or other Chevron-like developments yet to come?

The far right could do with ome beefing though.

Nice glamour-rama.

tayser
October 18th, 2004, 09:49 AM
there's plenty of room to fit around any heritage stuff, who cares bout the Chevron muse! :)

Muse
October 18th, 2004, 10:46 AM
http://www.sayhey.co.uk/invboard/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif

"heritage stuff"....like it's some nuisance child.

I don't care for The Chevron development either but it will be a reality.

Aussie Steve
October 19th, 2004, 01:44 AM
There are about 10 - 15 development sites along St Kilda Rd & Queens Rd that I can identify. The next time I borrow the digi-cam from work, I will take pics of the sites I think are prime for highrise office/hotel/residential.

Aussie Steve
October 19th, 2004, 01:45 AM
PS. The 2nd crane for Yve is up and running.

silvermb
October 20th, 2004, 10:46 AM
just about to accelerate construction as there's not much of a podium, has all the bells and whistles onsite bar coreboxes

a cool half-million to get a view of next doors rendered concrete core...bemusing!

http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/yve200410.jpg

Aussie Steve
October 22nd, 2004, 06:16 AM
I just drove past "Gateway" and the floors are at level 10 with the core at level 13

plotstyle
October 22nd, 2004, 10:44 AM
silvermb is always on the money ;)

Muse
October 22nd, 2004, 03:10 PM
Great to Yve's construction in full swing. It's going to be a damn great building and a fantastic addition to The Strip.

Favco750
October 25th, 2004, 03:36 PM
What's happening with Alto???????

Aussie Steve
October 26th, 2004, 01:12 AM
I have just sent them an email asking if the Alto Apartments (www.altoapartments.com.au) are still going ahead.

Favco750
October 26th, 2004, 01:33 PM
Thanks Aussie Steve. Hopefully you might get an answer but I doubt it. My mate bought one (paid deposit anyway) and he has been having trouble getting any info from them. It appears to have just stalled like a mini towing a caravan up Cunningham's Gap.

Meanwhile, two doors down, Yve is powering along.

Aussie Steve
October 28th, 2004, 01:48 AM
Dear Sir,

Thankyou for your enquiry. The Alto apartments are still proceeding. Ifyou can please provide me with a contact phone number I will ask one of ouradvisors to contact you with more information.

Many thanks

Eva Gorski
Marketing Co-Ordinator
John Hopkins Group
Level 2, 613 St KildaRoad
Melbourne, VIC, 3004
Tel: 03 9525 2288
Fax: 03 95252670
E-Mail: egorski@johnhopkins.com.au

Favco750
October 28th, 2004, 11:25 AM
nice work Aussie Steve, I just copy and pasted it into an email to my mate, I will report back with any further details.

silvermb
October 29th, 2004, 09:51 AM
all the curvy bits are poured in mould at ground level and then lifted up, with form in place for the rest of the floorplate; interesting way to do it

ehhh thats some good glass, nice and prominent but when you're surrounded by white precast its hard not to be. gateway happens to block out the butt-end of some st. kilda rd CE boxes - bonus
http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/gwe20041029.jpg

Aussie Steve
November 15th, 2004, 12:10 AM
I saw an Add for Alto on the weekend, so its still going ahead. I think completion was 2007.

Blabbyboy
November 15th, 2004, 05:20 AM
poor st kilda rd mansions...

tayser
November 15th, 2004, 11:56 AM
dont go all NIMBY on us now Blabbs, not that I disagree with you, but please don't, think of the children! :)

one of the mansions I've been in only has it facade in tact, the insides were completely gutted with all the mod cons you'd find in any contemporary office in anywheresville, Melbourne.

idle21
November 15th, 2004, 12:09 PM
Whats with the incredibly slow progress on Gateway? Is it just me or has it been hovering around this height for almost a year now? Everytime i drive by that building it seems the same height.

silvermb
November 15th, 2004, 02:38 PM
hey idle, its been u/c for about two years and they only got back up to ground level this february; such was the complex nature of lifting the mansion by sitting it on concrete piles and then excavating/building directly underneath it. its slow for a variety of reasons, novice builder with a handful of workers doing it on the cheap basically.

http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/gwe200411.jpg

two things with the above photo say it all for mine. usually the door frames are flush against the concrete, stick in a few dynabolts and then the glass. why they have wood between frame and concrete is beyond me, basically unnecessary considering they could have enlarged the frame?? also plastering before and facade is applied. the plaster's attatched to railings and sits off the concrete so when it rained last week the water falls from the floor above and flows in between concrete and plaster.

here's one of yve, check out the post-tensioning. as long as it doesn't carry too much load there's no reo required in the floor. i doubletaked when the steel fixer said each cable (sitting in the silver jackets and poking out to the right) can carry 25t. how do they tighten the cables once the concrete's poured?

http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/yve200411.jpg

yve's first floor is half complete, far more curved than i had expected

the chevron website/display is fully up and running. the marketing campaign is as good as the model riding the bike on Verve's hoardings-oh baby! i like chevron, more class than height.

http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/cvn.jpg

http://www.thechevron.com/images/red5.jpg
http://www.thechevron.com/images/green9.jpg
http://www.thechevron.com/images/garden3.jpg
http://www.thechevron.com/images/garden4.jpg

sakor1
November 15th, 2004, 03:02 PM
So are you thinking then that it is being very poorly done, there will be problems? Or just that they are not doing it in a 'traditional' (ie: usual) way, or bit of both? Great post BTW.

Stu

uewepuep
November 15th, 2004, 03:35 PM
rofl at the chick.
*must not buy apartment because of naked chick*

plotstyle
November 15th, 2004, 11:04 PM
.here's one of yve, check out the post-tensioning. as long as it doesn't carry too much load there's no reo required in the floor. i doubletaked when the steel fixer said each cable (sitting in the silver jackets and poking out to the right) can carry 25t. how do they tighten the cables once the concrete's poured?

easy each tendon is fixed with a device like a cork at one end then a machine comes along and pulls then they put a metal cork in and chop the cable if required

Muse
November 16th, 2004, 03:35 AM
Ah plotty!! That's what the brightly coloured cork-shaped objects are on the ends are always for. Cool.rofl at the chick.
*must not buy apartment because of naked chick*The shape of the chair makes it...errr, all too obvious.

silvermb
November 16th, 2004, 10:35 AM
hey sakor, to answer your question

a bit of both. the builder of Gateway (Melbourne Transit) is doing it on the cheap so yeah maybe a few little problems like noise down the track but nothing significant - only my opinion

plotstyle
November 16th, 2004, 01:10 PM
for silvermb dont know if hes playing dumb or not ;)

think it talk it work it :bash:

http://www.workcover.vic.gov.au/dir090/vwa/alerts.nsf/0/7B4A8C56A4687A15CA256D040014198A?OpenDocument


http://members.optusnet.com.au/~wadad/mypic247.jpg
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~wadad/mypic242.jpg
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~wadad/mypic243.jpg
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~wadad/mypic244.jpg
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~wadad/mypic245.jpg
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~wadad/mypic246.jpg

silvermb
November 16th, 2004, 01:48 PM
yah thanks for that, there was a time where i used to concrete. didn't care much for all the reo ect, only needed to know where not to step. nothing as sophisticated as the above though

Favco750
November 16th, 2004, 01:52 PM
The tendons are tensioned by an electric hydraulic pulling device. They are usually tensioned day after slab is poured, then a week later again??? Something like that.

Check out Austress Freyssinet, they may have a www with a bit of info. They are pretty big into it. Can also use stressing as a method of lifting, qantas hanger at Brissy airport was erected by stessing cables.

tayser
December 11th, 2004, 01:10 PM
http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/9329/102089329bl1102658040.jpg

wow, nice:

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/9329/102089329ml1102658040.jpg

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/9329/102089329al1102658040.jpg

BigVman
December 12th, 2004, 05:14 AM
Is that Gateway?

tayser
December 12th, 2004, 06:25 AM
yip :)

plotstyle
December 12th, 2004, 08:06 AM
any more tayser of say yve???

silvermb
December 18th, 2004, 07:37 AM
she's got all the curves in all the right places, much more pronounced than i had expected

http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/yve200412.jpg

plotstyle
December 18th, 2004, 11:19 AM
cheers :)

CULWULLA
December 30th, 2004, 02:12 PM
anyone know how Hallmark is going?

Aussie Steve
December 31st, 2004, 12:21 AM
I think we have a few floors built ontop and the southern facade is moving along very fast. Do you wants some pics Mr C?

Aussie Steve
December 31st, 2004, 03:43 AM
Gateway:
http://img75.exs.cx/img75/7722/dsc002983uy.jpg

Hallmark on the left & Royal Domain on the right:
http://img90.exs.cx/img90/9876/dsc002990nu.jpg

Hallmark:
http://img73.exs.cx/img73/1315/dsc003008kb.jpg

Royal Domain Plaza:
http://img56.exs.cx/img56/4024/dsc003018ak.jpg

http://img83.exs.cx/img83/3652/dsc003024pv.jpg

http://img91.exs.cx/img91/7927/dsc003035qb.jpg

http://img84.exs.cx/img84/1955/dsc003040tz.jpg

tayser
January 6th, 2005, 08:02 AM
:rock:

http://thehoddlegrid.net/projects/updates/stkildaroad/stkildard0601051.jpg

Grollo
January 6th, 2005, 08:22 AM
That's the height where RDT would have topped out if it wasn't for bloody Jeff :-)

CULWULLA
January 6th, 2005, 12:16 PM
thanks guys! all progressing well!

plotstyle
January 18th, 2005, 07:22 AM
i think...

silvermb
January 18th, 2005, 07:30 AM
you getting circumcised plotty?


for us normal people Chevron is going ahead, either LUSimon or ABI Group will build it

tayser
January 18th, 2005, 07:32 AM
LOL.

plotstyle
January 18th, 2005, 11:56 AM
yes it does hurt ;)

silvermb
January 24th, 2005, 12:58 PM
gateway is now called the mansion apartments

silvermb
January 24th, 2005, 01:00 PM
gateway is now called 'The Mansion' at 83 Queens Rd, whatever its called its going to look the goods. pissy webpage www.themansion.com.au

http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/gma200501.jpg

alfred hospital, tower crane shortly

http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/alf200501.jpg

hallmark, probably the best looker of the current crop u/c

http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/hma200501.jpg

yve, wouldn't be far behind hallmark

http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/yve200501.jpg

and like plotty said ABI Group are going to start Chevron very soon. stick in alto and there's plenty happening

tayser
January 24th, 2005, 01:14 PM
yer, the mansion merges very well with that tower ;)

St. Kilda roads finally pumping them out eh.

plotstyle
January 24th, 2005, 01:20 PM
its called that because it used to be a club....

Aussie Steve
January 25th, 2005, 01:17 AM
Plenty of more potential redevelopment sites along St Kilda Rd/Queens Rd/Kings Way.

Alexander21
January 25th, 2005, 01:44 AM
Id love to see scrapers on both sides of St Kilda Rd and Kings Way leading into the CBD, a 'canyon' of some sorts. Now that would like impressive!

Aussie Steve
January 25th, 2005, 01:51 AM
There arn't as many sites left on the east side of St Kilda Rd, but we do have a few tall ones on that side already, but there are a number of sites on the west side of St Kilda Rd and the east side of Queens Rd & Kings Way that could be redeveloped.

I might have to go for a walk with my camera and take pics of sites I think have potential to go UP!

Muse
January 25th, 2005, 02:11 AM
Yve is gonna be hot!! I just know it...hot, hot, hot!!

Already the relatively thick floorplates are proving no cost cutting there.

Alexander21
January 25th, 2005, 02:40 AM
There arn't as many sites left on the east side of St Kilda Rd, but we do have a few tall ones on that side already, but there are a number of sites on the west side of St Kilda Rd and the east side of Queens Rd & Kings Way that could be redeveloped.

Agreed. I think the western side of Kings Way, from the end of Albert Park Reserve to Crown could do with some high rises.

There is a parcel of land near the old Shell (now Burma?) on Kings Way that I saw some work happening to, anyone know what that is??

tayser
February 22nd, 2005, 11:31 AM
Say What?

from Rovelive.com (Tues Feb 22nd ep).

Dannii Minogue
Dannii never let international superstardom stop her from being an Aussie gal at heart -- and now she's bought property to prove it. Dannii's just purchased a two bedroom apartment in Melbourne's iconic (???? :lol: ) Chevron development, and she's movin' in!

Northerly
February 22nd, 2005, 01:11 PM
L.U. Simon is doing the work near the old Shell on Kings Way - but their website doesn't reveal anything about the project...

Aussie Steve
February 22nd, 2005, 10:52 PM
I think that Kings Way site is a low rise office building :(

silvermb
February 23rd, 2005, 01:03 PM
yve & hallmark

http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/yve200502.jpg

http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/hma200502.jpg

Favco750
February 23rd, 2005, 01:32 PM
^^^^^ you're the man!!!

tayser
February 23rd, 2005, 01:43 PM
I concur.

plotstyle
February 24th, 2005, 03:06 AM
i want to stand on that slab... :)

and see how all the pt works if there is any...

Grollo
March 8th, 2005, 03:21 PM
The apartment tower proposed by Estate Project Developments (who are building Neo200) at 55 Queens Road has been approved by VCAT. The tower will be 14 storeys, with a hieght of 46.25m and have 191 apartments.

The existing, heritage listed, mansion on the site will be refurbished and converted iinto 6 apartments.

No renderings but the tribunal was very impressed with the design of the building:

The proposed apartment building may be loosely described as being configured in an “L” shape, wrapping around the northeast rear corner of the land. Whilst the northern and eastern facades are linear in form, the proposed building’s main face takes on a curved alignment that commences towards the northwest corner then sweeps behind Lanark’s northern façade before ending towards the southeast corner near Beatrice Street. This arrangement allows Lanark to sit within a landscaped setting on all 4 sides.

We think that it would be fair to say that it was common ground that, in its own right, the proposed apartment building displays design excellence in terms of its architectural qualities. We agree. The building form clearly responds to its context. The building has been designed with an elegant curved façade sweeping behind Lanark to create a separate, distinct and contemporary built form that acknowledges its historic neighbour. Further, the upper levels step back toward the northeast corner to present a form that not only recedes from both Queens Road and Beatrice Street, but also maintains the elegance of the curved façade of the levels below.

Aussie Steve
March 8th, 2005, 10:50 PM
Grollo, that is great news. Let's hope this bomb site is developed soon. It would sell very very well, considering its oposite the park.

tayser
March 9th, 2005, 07:53 AM
I'd love to be a typist for VCAT :D :lol: (pity I wouldn't be able to get the job, but that's beside the point :D)

kasperluke
March 10th, 2005, 10:38 AM
http://members.optusnet.com.au/lukekasper/RDTHall.jpg

plotstyle
March 25th, 2005, 01:53 PM
i noticed soil testing at one site in st kilda road a few days ago ;) almost opposite maccas

alverks
March 25th, 2005, 06:51 PM
plotty you are a genius ! ! !

silvermb
March 25th, 2005, 11:53 PM
Plotty it doesn't hurt to be a little more specific, what site is it. Wouldn't be next to the Royce Hotel by any chance?

Yve's facade is so reflective i couldn't figure out what colour it is from a few different angles, but charcoal seems a good bet
last weekend
http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/yve200503.jpg

The Mansion Apartments - minus core box
http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/gma200503.jpg

Hacksaw
March 27th, 2005, 06:33 AM
Yve from the Alfred Hospital:
http://img124.exs.cx/img124/8486/p32703400oe.jpg

tayser
March 27th, 2005, 07:11 AM
nice work, the both of you.

Yve = Lake Shore ala Melbourne

http://thehoddlegrid.net/dump/117039.jpg

silvermb
April 5th, 2005, 10:19 AM
shaping up extremely well

http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/hma200504.jpg

Aussie Steve
April 7th, 2005, 02:45 AM
Chevron

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/6495/102296495al1111550728.jpg

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/6495/102296495ml1111550725.jpg

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/6495/102296495dl1111550736.jpg

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/6495/102296495el1111550739.jpg

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/6495/102296495fl1111550742.jpg

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/6495/102296495cl1111550734.jpg

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/6495/102296495bl1111550730.jpg

silvermb
April 9th, 2005, 01:07 AM
so good!! frosted balconies look sensational

http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/yve200405.jpg

Favco750
April 9th, 2005, 03:16 AM
crane looking climbing soon, probably too windy this arvo.

tayser
April 9th, 2005, 02:07 PM
repost #22356

http://www.pbase.com/jchambers/image/27078621/large.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/jchambers/image/27078619/large.jpg

:banana:

nice work mb, keep it up pinko :cool:

Blue_Copper
April 10th, 2005, 03:07 AM
love this street

Favco750
April 10th, 2005, 04:20 AM
It's a Road Pete. A very big one. Some call it a boulevard, but they are wrong too. It's a Road.

That's why it is called St.Kilda Road.

NJANJA
April 10th, 2005, 11:08 AM
It's a Road Pete. A very big one. Some call it a boulevard, but they are wrong too. It's a Road.

That's why it is called St.Kilda Road.

Actually, I think you'll find it's a street, road, boulevard, thoroughfare and avenue (and more!) which happens to be called St Kilda Road. If you're going to be a pedant, get it right.

Cheers

Favco750
April 10th, 2005, 12:52 PM
I have always wanted to be a 'pendant', at least that way you would be able to wear me around your neck! :bash:

St. Kilda St. exists in Baxter, Brighton, Elwood and Mt Eliza.

St. Kilda Boulevard is virtually a driveway into the uni of dream-makers.

St. Kilda Ave is is in Upwey.

There is no such thing as St. Kilda thoroughfare, but you forgot St. Kilda Parade at Taylors Hill.

I would hardly think that there is any traffic carrying device in Upwey, Taylors Hill, Mt. Eliza or Brighton than can be compared with the road that is called St. Kilda Road.

NJANJA, please be aware that there are many people from all over the world whom peruse these pages for acurate information. Our friend Pete is a well known Sydney-sider who takes fantastic photo's of his home town and who I hope would correct us if we called the boat stop as "The Key."

So please allow those who mild critisicim is directed to the right of reply. I would hardly call an eight lane plus 2 tram line arterial road a street. It is a road.

That is why it is called St. Kilda Road. :)

NJANJA
April 10th, 2005, 01:31 PM
Fair enough.


St. Kilda Boulevard is virtually a driveway into the uni of dream-makers.


That made me laugh.

Favco750
April 10th, 2005, 03:01 PM
cool, :) :) :) :)

:eek2: for those not in the know, it is where the college of anethesists are situated.

Muse
April 11th, 2005, 02:38 AM
LOL @ Favco750 & Njanja.

Bit disappointed with the way Yve's facade may be shaping up. The materials are great, it's just the the floorplates seem to be edging out with the frosted balustrades. Would be nice if they sat flush with the windows.

Blue_Copper
April 11th, 2005, 04:53 AM
thanks favco750 "my mistake" ;)

Grollo
April 14th, 2005, 04:41 PM
An application has been made to DSE to build a hotel/apartment tower at 505-507 St. Kilda Road. A permit was issued to build a 21 level apartment building on the site in July last year so I am presuming that this application is a redesign incroporating a hotel as well as apartments.

Aussie Steve
April 15th, 2005, 01:11 AM
From memory, thats on the east side of St Kilda Rd, just north of Commercial Rd, next to the Fawkner Centre. Teh site is currently occupier by an aqua color 1960s office building. Am I right Grollo?

Grollo
April 15th, 2005, 04:02 AM
Correct.

mugley
May 4th, 2005, 11:35 AM
572 update: "Seasons on St Kilda Road" hotel/apartments.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v474/mugley/seasons1.jpg

Warwillah looks reasonably safe...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v474/mugley/seasons2.jpg

More info at http://seasonsmelbourne.com.au and http://www.apartmentguide.com.au/seasons/.

tayser
May 4th, 2005, 11:53 AM
Starting at $180,000 - oooh!

Aussie Steve
May 5th, 2005, 01:31 AM
WOW. That is fantastic. More hotels for Melbourne and more construction activity.

There is also activity on the site to the south of the Eden on the Park Hotel on Queens Rd. Does anyone know anything about the redevelopment/demolition or otherwise of the 5 or so storey office building?

Grollo
May 5th, 2005, 02:34 AM
I noticed that the other day, hopefully they are demolishing the building to make way for the approved Eden the Park hotel extension/apartment Tower (61m 20 levels).

Erektion
May 5th, 2005, 02:59 AM
Hey also, my in-laws are in a penthouse @ 442 St Kilda Road. They told me recently that part of their view will be built out in the next couple of years by two tall apartment buildings going up on the two corners of Arthurs Street and St Kilda Roads. They said they believe that they're both more than 20 stories each..
Anyone have any details of these two?

silvermb
May 5th, 2005, 07:57 AM
seasons replaces that precast shitbox Redholme apartments scheme - nice result and with Estate Properties approved tower directly behind on Queens rd - nice density.

Yve, hats off to the banana-benders for going through with such a pricey project. no cost cutting here, will probably be looked back upon as a defining tower of its time?

http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/yve 200505.jpg

Blabbyboy
May 5th, 2005, 08:11 AM
LOL @ Favco750 & Njanja.

Bit disappointed with the way Yve's facade may be shaping up. The materials are great, it's just the the floorplates seem to be edging out with the frosted balustrades. Would be nice if they sat flush with the windows.
I agree entirely with you on this one, Muse. Yve is another case of render is better than the actual thing. I'd be p*ssed if I were Leyton.

Which hotel is going to operate that "Seasons" facility, Grollo?

For the record, I believe that the traditional technical distinction between a "road" and a "street" is that a road is usually lined with houses, as St Kilda Road once was (with mansions, of course), and what a shame it still isn't.

mugley
May 5th, 2005, 12:31 PM
Which hotel is going to operate that "Seasons" facility, Grollo?
Hope you don't mind me jumping in, Grollo :)

From the apartmentguide site:

Seasons St Kilda Road will be an integral part of the Seasons hotel chain... Seasons plans to become a leading hotel brand located in major cities around world

silvermb
June 6th, 2005, 11:00 AM
damn good!

http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/yve200506.jpg

Grantus
June 6th, 2005, 12:32 PM
^ Fab shot's, building is traveling nicely

Grollo
June 6th, 2005, 02:30 PM
That's awesome :-)

sirbugalugs
June 18th, 2005, 02:11 PM
http://web.aanet.com.au/sirbugalugs/IMG_4711.JPG

http://web.aanet.com.au/sirbugalugs/IMG_4712.JPG

http://web.aanet.com.au/sirbugalugs/IMG_4715.JPG

sirbugalugs
June 18th, 2005, 02:17 PM
Not much more done but too much Yve is not enough. :)

http://web.aanet.com.au/sirbugalugs/IMG_4702.JPG

http://web.aanet.com.au/sirbugalugs/IMG_4703.JPG

tayser
June 18th, 2005, 02:32 PM
holy crap @ the Hallmark / Holiday Inn!

How good is St. Kilda road's crop shaping up to be?

:eek2:

Dean
June 18th, 2005, 03:44 PM
Well im very impressed by Yve. She reminds me of cindy crawford's curves at her peak.

The hallmark is awesome too. little can go wrong when you use Rialto/Eureka electric blue type facades. and the extra floors added have done wonders.

Cheers

Dean - Melbourne