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Phnom Penh airport needs to increase its direct flight destinations (ex. to any Middle East countries or Australia first, and then to the major European or American cities)

here the promotional link for the extra service, AUD$ 27, >US$25, hurry three days only
http://www.airasia.com/au/en/promotion/rr0710805.html

2x daily flights Kul-Pnh, yeah :rock:

Airasia To Have Two Daily Flights To Phnom Penh


KUALA LUMPUR, June 1 (Bernama) -- AirAsia will begin its second direct daily flight from Kuala Lumpur to the Phnom Penh International Airport on August 25 to meet the increased demand from business and leisure travellers.

The low-cost carrier will start with 14 weekly flights to the city, it said in a statement Tuesday.

Phnom Penh is the first Cambodian destination to be serviced from Kuala Lumpur and AirAsia currently flies to Siem Reap daily from here.

AirAsia's regional head of commercial, Kathleen Tan, said the Phnom Penh route had recorded a strong demand with over 480,000 passengers carried since its first flight to Cambodia.

"This service will give travellers better connectivity by reducing transmit times when connecting to further destination from Kuala Lumpur hub to other cities," she said.

Tan said with the second daily flight, passengers will have a smarter alternative travelling choices to fly low cost and enjoy other value-added services offered via online booking.

The airline also announced its new promotion from as low as RM69 for bookings made from June 1 to 6, 2010, for travel between August 25, 2010, to May 8, 2011

http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v5/newsbusiness.php?id=502735

Phnom Penh International Airport runway with a new parallel taxiway on the far right.

From Airliners.net

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/7/7/9/1739977.jpg

THAI extends maintenance service at Cambodian airports

By The Nation 6/08/2010


Thai Airways International's Technical Department and Societe Concessionaire De L'Aeroport (SCA), the airport operator of Cambodia, have signed a four-year extension contract for aircraft maintenance services at Phnom Penh International Airport and Siem Reap International Airport .

This four-year contract is an extension of the previous agreement made in 2004 for handling such airlines as Asiana Airlines, China Airlines, Korean Airlines, and Silk Air.


Nicolas Deviller, CEO of SCA, said the agreement will enhance the airports' services for carriers serving medium range destinations and, in the future, the prospected companies with long haul flights. Aircraft maintenance, which requires high level of expertise, is a major driving force for the development of the Kingdon's international airports.


Captain Montree Jumrieng, managing director of THAI Technical Department, said the contract would be carried out in line with the IATA Standard Ground Handling Agreement

Terminal, Runways, and Airplanes at Phnom Penh International Airport. From http://picasaweb.google.com/AsianJournal/2008PhnomPenhInternationalAirport#

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Phnom Penh airport needs to increase its direct flight destinations (ex. to any Middle East countries or Australia first, and then to the major European or American cities)

I would really want direct flight to and from Sydney, but there just isn't the demand. Maybe at most 1 flight a week. But is not up to the airport, is up to the airline to see if is feasible.

thanks for sharing....nice picture.....PP Airport has change a lots...:)

I would really want direct flight to and from Sydney, but there just isn't the demand. Maybe at most 1 flight a week. But is not up to the airport, is up to the airline to see if is feasible.

Demand is the major problem. Many tourists prefer to stop at Hong Kong, Thailand, Malaysia or Singapore first before heading to Phnom Penh :ohno:

Demand is the major problem. Many tourists prefer to stop at Hong Kong, Thailand, Malaysia or Singapore first before heading to Phnom Penh :ohno:

I agree, demand is everything, perhaps one day there are demand from PNH <> SYD, what is interesting, lots of successful business peoples in Cambodia are in fact from Sydney with Australian Passport.

As with the stop over, I wouldn't mind someone arrange stop over in Macau.
Sydney <> Macau <> Phnom Penh, will be good.

Sydney has direct flights to Macau, but the company went bankrupt few months ago.

Sydney has direct flights to Macau, but the company went bankrupt few months ago.

Yes, it did, but viva is so unreliable insurance company won't cover for plane cancel or delay.

Hi Mr Fusion, you live in Sydney right I live in Fairfield, where abouts do you live?

Hi Mr Fusion, you live in Sydney right I live in Fairfield, where abouts do you live?

I live in Canley Vale, but I am in Phnom Penh now.

^^ hope you get a lot of pictures ;)

I live in Canley Vale, but I am in Phnom Penh now.

Don't forget to post a lot of photo :)

yea....Please....:)

I watched news in TV today, it said Airberlin set up their first office in PP in order to provide flights to most European countries.

Today when I was in airport I saw 2 private jets landed in pp airport. One is from Russian and another is from Malaysia. I had been told that the group of Malaysian are the big investors and I saw the girls coming down fro the jet so hot :). Seems Cambodia will be booming soon as long as foreign direct investment are turning to Cambodia :)

Good news indeed. Cambodia needs that.

oh thanks for the hot news....you could have talking the picture of the girl....:D...

Hehe I can not take any pics of them. It is VIP terminal, so I was afraid of being kicked off. It is not polite to take photo of some1 without permission :)

One thing I notice in this airport when I was lining on the passport check counter is the number of wealthy Cambodian businessmen carrying ''Louis Vuitton'' luggage bags, their children wearing ''Gucci'' shoes with expensive watches and handbags by their mothers. This really proves the number of millionaires are growing in Cambodia :)

I rarely see the above scenario in any other airports I've been to ..

I'm so ridiculous with my reeboks shoes in comparaison of LV or Gucci :(

^^Oh, great... That good news...:)... we need of them to invest in Cambodia...:)

Hehe I can not take any pics of them. It is VIP terminal, so I was afraid of being kicked off. It is not polite to take photo of some1 without permission :)

Hehehe... I know... I was kidding...:)

I'm so ridiculous with my reeboks shoes in comparaison of LV or Gucci :(

Who knows, one day you may drive a Ferrari F430 on the street in Phnom Penh :)

Who knows, one day you may drive a Ferrari F430 on the street in Phnom Penh :)

I love this car ! I hope to drive this car in PP ... with beautiful girl(s) on my back :D:D:D

very nice pictures

22/10/2010
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Thank you for photos LostInTheSimCity. Do you go back to your living country ?

06/11/2010
The top legislator of china's airbus was taking off this morning
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Looks like you are driving on a freeway .. :D

I wish too :)

Seems like many private jets regularly land in pp airport :)
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06/11/2010
The top legislator of china's airbus was taking off this morning
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Wow, the 747 could land in PP now.

PP airport was ready for 747 quit a few years ago, but there is no regular flight.

I just notice PPIA has installed escalators form passenger arrival.

Are there any direct flights from Cambodia to Bhutan:) :cheers::cheers::cheers:

^^ no

Are there any direct flights from Cambodia to Bhutan:) :cheers::cheers::cheers:

Forget about Bhutan, let's have direct flight to New Delhi or Mumbai first :)

Forget about Bhutan, let's have direct flight to New Delhi or Mumbai first :)

^^I don't want to go to India! I love Bhutan and it's culture and beautiful people! :cheers::cheers:

Big Fat Windowless American Plane sitting in PP Airport

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^^ thats a us airforce plane, what it doing in cambodia

Today when I was in airport I saw 2 private jets landed in pp airport.

^^ thats a us airforce plane, what it doing in cambodia

I though is odd to have this monster parked in PP, that was Tuesday morning, (17th May), don't know if it has left.

^^ thats a us airforce plane, what it doing in cambodia

Probably for Angkor Sentinel 2011 military exercise. It's a US sponsored UN Peace Keeping exercise.

Japanese boeing 747-400 plane successfully landed in PP airport.

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Regarding to CTN news, japanese airline wants to see whether the plane can land in the airport. They will have direct fly with this boeing sooner.

Is this the first time Boeing 747 landing in PP airport??

^^ definitely not

Hopefully, the developer will consider to build new big airport regarding to increasing numbers of passenger every year and more directly fly.

Hopefully, the developer will consider to build new big airport regarding to increasing numbers of passenger every year and more directly fly.

I do think the airport should be move to a bigger site to cater for PP future expansion. This site is not suitable for serious expansion.

where do u think they should build???? phnom phen is getting more dense...........

where do u think they should build???? phnom phen is getting more dense...........


There must be spaces available outside of Phnom Penh limit. It is a bit far, but they can build big roads and trains to get to the city. I am sure it can be done if the goverment and parties involved want to.

I used to heard they want to build near kompong speu province which is about 30km-40km away from PP. I think it is fair for the airport to be built.

where do u think they should build???? phnom phen is getting more dense...........

maybe some where on NR4, first avaliable blocks of almost empty and flat land big enought to house an international airport.

I used to heard they want to build near kompong speu province which is about 30km-40km away from PP. I think it is fair for the airport to be built.

As long as there are decent road and PT, it sounds good.

what about if they could expand the old one to be bigger, dun it sound better????

what about if they could expand the old one to be bigger, dun it sound better????


In the long run, the airport needs a bigger and more modern international passenger terminal and another runway. The terminal could be built with no problem. But, to get a new runway there is more problematic. More land needed, and they are expensive now. Plus, the roads leading to the airport are small and traffic will be more chaotic in the future. It is better if the new one is built somewhere else.

what about if they could expand the old one to be bigger, dun it sound better????

In order to expand the current airport, much of the existing house around the airport will need to be buy back, the terminal will need massive expansion, the airport road will need to be reroute. Basically cut into the Elephane head village opposite the airport.

This will be massive movement, massive complaint, simply not feasible.

No, it does not sounds better.

When the airport was build, it is consider some distanct away from the PP city, now it is part of PP. As with all modern city, people will start to complain about aircraft noise.

i think they cant reconstruct on build new one yet until stingy french company is finished the concession. Now they have concession for operating and developing the PP SR PS airports. Look like they are just pumping money without any innovation our airport; however, i am happy to hear that gov approved the korean company to build new airport at SR

selecting a suitable site, designs, feasibility study, all that takes years, building it take years, you don't wait till the concession finish, if there are plan, it should be implement ASAP.

The french (and others) are welcome to submit proposal for the new airport, and operate it for 20-30 years.

The new airport is not bothering the old. They both can operate the same time and let see who is the winner :)

The new airport is not bothering the old. They both can operate the same time and let see who is the winner :)

It is going to share the same airspace if build too close, and the airspace need to be manage by the same entity.

Whoever has the contract to run PPIA now has exclusive right to operate the airport, and the government can not just introduce competition.

Just like someone mentioned in this thread before, the old airport can serve the domestic flights and the new airport can serve all the international flights

a domestic airport with only one route?? ^^

Just like someone mentioned in this thread before, the old airport can serve the domestic flights and the new airport can serve all the international flights

The last time I flight a domestic flight is in 2002 or 2003 to Siem Reap, using an airline called President (or similar), do we fly anywhere else now???

I would like to see some development that include a theme park when this airport expired.

On the other hand, Cambodia is lacking of domestic airports in other provinces and traveling by road is the best option for many. It is cheaper and given that Cambodia is a small country.

The last time I flight a domestic flight is in 2002 or 2003 to Siem Reap, using an airline called President (or similar), do we fly anywhere else now???

I would like to see some development that include a theme park when this airport expired.

President Air has gone bankrupt.

Air business is not easy to operate in Cambodia. The Phnom Penh to Siem Reap is probably the only domestic route can make profit, or Phnom Penh to Sihanoukville in the future.

President Air has gone bankrupt.

Air business is not easy to operate in Cambodia. The Phnom Penh to Siem Reap is probably the only domestic route can make profit, or Phnom Penh to Sihanoukville in the future.

The PP to Sihanoukville flight will be interesting, it is 3 hours drive, faster if and when the NR4 improve, about 180km, which means actual flight time is probably about 20 minutes.

How much will tickets cost?

i think Kompong Chang Airport could innovate into our international airport for insteading of PP airport. KC not air as from PP if we build express way road, may be take only 30 min from Wat Phnom to KC airport. Gov is easy to deal with land dispute

i think Kompong Chang Airport could innovate into our international airport for insteading of PP airport. KC not air as from PP if we build express way road, may be take only 30 min from Wat Phnom to KC airport. Gov is easy to deal with land dispute

A 30 minutes drive from the city center sounds sensible.

Building an airport is very costly, plus the cost of corruption at all levels during the constructions, I cannot imagine how much it costs to build up an airport

Building anything will have these problems, if it needs to be done, then open tender it to the rest of the world, the tendering process has to be open, experience company all over the world can can do the necessary studies, work out how much it cost to build, how long they want to operate the airport, let them do the maths. These will probably keep the corruption amounts to the minimum.

our PP airport land is too small it is hard to expand due to resident living around airport but if we move to province such as Kompong Chang is best location for innovating. our tourism sector is growing rapidly if we have direct from US or europ countries more it will boost our tourism sector. Gov could give concession for Kompong Chang for company who want to invest. Build express way could be BOT

i think corruption should be aware of our government already and cost: could be not much because we use the old land airport plus expand around. Building and Infrasture could be $1 billion.

that is right, the benefit for the development potential from the existing airport could have fund majority of the cost to build a new one.

The existing airport is probably worth $100+/sqm whereas a remote site is probably only worth $10/sqm.

i am waiting to see big jamboo jet to land our airport. we can go direct flight to around the world beside transit ..

i am waiting to see big jamboo jet to land our airport. we can go direct flight to around the world beside transit ..

First, you got to find that many people wants to come from the other side of the world, at the same time. from the same place.

Yes, we may have 1000 people a week want to come from NY, but some wants to come on a Sunday, some wants to come on Wednesday, etc. some wants to come in the morning, some like a night flight.

Laos airport have started innovating by loaning from chinese gov. they extend the run way as well. i think our pp airport wil be lowest quality & standard in Asean after laos completing innovation their airport.i am really bored n sick when i wait to pick up someone at PP airport that is boring, not such as like singapre bkk plenty shopping

Laos airport have started innovating by loaning from chinese gov. they extend the run way as well. i think our pp airport wil be lowest quality & standard in Asean after laos completing innovation their airport.i am really bored n sick when i wait to pick up someone at PP airport that is boring, not such as like singapre bkk plenty shopping

they are renovating now, it is a mess trying to get out of the airport, hell trying to pickup someone.

what do you want to do when you pick up someone in the airport?

vientiane airport is already larger than phnom penh airport, we are lagging behind

vientiane airport is already larger than phnom penh airport, we are lagging behind

yes, we are lagging behind, but those in charge doesn't seems to care.

hehehe... at least i can sit n relax with coffee n watch plane take off such as some modern airport in Asia. dont like to stand with crowne people lol...

hehehe... at least i can sit n relax with coffee n watch plane take off such as some modern airport in Asia. dont like to stand with crowne people lol...

I can't even do that (watch plane take off) when I pick up someone in Sydney.

with continue face lift of the exsiting PP airport, just small extra, there is no plan any time soon for a new airport.

I think the escalator should only be a couple of months old.
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currently there are also some renovation work in the arrival hall.

HK airport was best 2011 in the world C:\Users\NORA\Pictures\hkg226runway.jpg

HK airport was best 2011 in the world C:\Users\NORA\Pictures\hkg226runway.jpg

We can't see pictures in ur C: drive !:nuts:

HK airport was best 2011 in the world C:\Users\NORA\Pictures\hkg226runway.jpg

Nora, the website does not upload pictures from you harddrive.

Please upload it manually, and post the uploaded link.,

You can use Imageshack, http://imageshack.us/

No point to compare against HK, you have better chance to see Cambodia Snow all over, then seeing an airport half as good as HK in Cambodia in the next 50 years.

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thank mrfusion. i am not trying to compare our airport to KH airport.i just pray our airport will be like this in one day!

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After seeing this pic...i think we cant upgade our current PP airport, even extend the runway to 3600 m for Boeing 747 and second runway for take off plus building new teminal.

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After seeing this pic...i think we cant upgade our current PP airport, even extend the runway to 3600 m for Boeing 747 and second runway for take off plus building new teminal.


If A340-600 Air France can land there, so can B747-400. The length is fine. It is impossible to build another runway unless they have lots of money buying lands from people living near by. But, for now what they can do are:
1) extend or/and build the taxiway all the way to this end (in the picture) so that it is easy for airplane rotation - taking off and landing. So, more flights can be handled with ease.
2) build a new and bigger and more modern international terminal with at least three levels. Plus, the access to the airport should be improved. This should include more short term and long term parkings, and ramp to easy and fast drop-off and pick-up.

It they don't think it now, it may be too late in a few years time. Well, they may have to move to somewhere else, which is even better.

If A340-600 Air France can land there, so can B747-400. The length is fine.

It is not about landing, it is about take off.

And yes, it can take off fine, when the plane is not full (not just paseenger, include cargos, maximum fuel, etc.

It is not about landing, it is about take off.

And yes, it can take off fine, when the plane is not full (not just paseenger, include cargos, maximum fuel, etc.

Probably it needs 600 to 800 more meters (as now it has 3000m). Then, it will be OK for a full load take off.

Probably it needs 600 to 800 more meters (as now it has 3000m). Then, it will be OK for a full load take off.

It might be acheivable by buyback the area east side of the airport, possibly reroute NR3 a bit.

The dollar cost should not be a real concern as the land value don't normally reduce, and when one day there is a need to move the airport, that part can be resold at at least the same amount for redevelopment (building, sport complex, theme park, whatever).

Extending the passenger terminal will need to have some sort of study, as there isn't much room between the existing terminal and the Russie.

Overflight fees set to increase

http://www.phnompenhpost.com/index.php/2011082951326/Business/overflight-fees-set-to-increase.html

CAMBODIA may raise fees for planes moving through the Kingdom's airspace after granting Cambodia Air Traffic Services Company permission to increase the fees by 5.5 percent.

Cambodia's overflight fees are low, and will remain low, compared to other countries in the region, Soy Sokhan, undersecretary at the State Secretariat of Civil Aviation, said yesterday.

“The price of overflight in Cambodia will still be lower than other countries even after we increase the price,” he said.

Increased fees will not affect plane ticket prices, Soy Sokhan said, adding that airlines wishing to raise ticket prices must first get approval from the State Secretariat of Civil Aviation.

The new revenue will pay for improved flight monitoring systems which are upgraded annually, Soy Sokhan said, though he was unable to confirm yesterday the exact fee CATS was to charge. Training for staff, as well as the increasing cost of oil used to run the systems, will be covered by higher fees, he said.

The increase could have some affect on the tourism industry, according to experts.

The price of package tours to Cambodia would likely rise as a result, Ang Kim Eang, president of the Cambodian Tourism Association, said yesterday.

Although overflight fees have remained relatively low compared to other developing countries, airline operators have long complained that Cambodia's airport tax is relatively high, he said.

Shares in Samart Corporation Pcl, the Thai parent company of Cambodia Air Traffic Services Company, saw a 3.3 percent jump in Bangkok on Friday, closing at 9.30 baht (US$0.31) after announcing Cambodian approval for the fee rise.

“The price of overflight in Cambodia will still be lower than other countries even after we increase the price,” he said.

It doesn't say how much, not that it is relevant to us.

Increased fees will not affect plane ticket prices, Soy Sokhan said, adding that airlines wishing to raise ticket prices must first get approval from the State Secretariat of Civil Aviation.
If the increase is significant, I don't think they have the right or power to not approve.

The increase could have some affect on the tourism industry, according to experts.

The price of package tours to Cambodia would likely rise as a result, Ang Kim Eang, president of the Cambodian Tourism Association, said yesterday.

this seems to conflict with the comment above.

Although overflight fees have remained relatively low compared to other developing countries, airline operators have long complained that Cambodia's airport tax is relatively high, he said.
I do agree airport tax is relatively high, but now is build into the ticket, it becomes less significant.

does anyone has proposal or picture of new international siem reap airport? any information?

does anyone has proposal or picture of new international siem reap airport? any information?

Has been a year since they talk about it. JUST TALK ABOUT IT.

No one seems to talk about it after that.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1216675

http://www.fastcompany.com/1710321/siam-reap-aerotropolis-is-cambodias-next-stab-at-regional-stardom

A few picture taken while waiting to pickup a friend last week, there are constructions so the exit is diverted to the far end, the constructions has been going on for a while.

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Notice the sign: EXCUSE OUR MESS I think it sounds quite cute.
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i heard PP Int aiport arrival terminal is renovating....isnt it? currently they move to domestic...

i heard PP Int aiport arrival terminal is renovating....isnt it? currently they move to domestic...

It was renovating since about July, don't know the progress at the moment.

They finished the renovations. The new arrival is moved to near domestic arrival. There are now a lot of stalls for bank, phone company, taxi service to serve passengers along arrival path. Previous exit turned to coffee shop. The restaurant opposite now to become Pizza company.

Damn they should build new teminal... turning arrive & departure area to building plus more seat ...

It is better but not bigger

Damn they should build new teminal... turning arrive & departure area to building plus more seat ...

there is no immediate need for a new terminal, if they want to keep this airport (vs build a new bigger one), there should be plenty of room to build a decent size terminal on the north of the existing terminal, the type where the upper level is departure, and bottom level is arrival.

long long ago,i know it is best!

long long ago,i know it is best!

best compare to what?

a few pics taken a few night ago...

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I just notice part of the airport is fence off, don''t know what they are planning to do.

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Hello friends from Cambodia! Would like to ask if Phnom Penh International Airport still collects $25 departure tax even if it wasn't included at the time I purchased my ticket last February of this year?

Thanks in advance!

Hello friends from Cambodia! Would like to ask if Phnom Penh International Airport still collects $25 departure tax even if it wasn't included at the time I purchased my ticket last February of this year?

Thanks in advance!

if you did not pay for it in Feb, I think you will need to pay for it.
The tax window is still there, providing tax refund for those with Khmer passport.

^^

thank you!

I would just probably return to Bangkok by land border crossing since its cheaper coming from Siem Reap.

thanks again!

http://www.cambodia-airports.com/index.php?option=com_quicklink&view=newsletters&Itemid=80&lang=en[/URL]

http://www.cambodia-airports.com/index.php?option=com_quicklink&view=newsletters&Itemid=80&lang=en[/URL]

Newsletter Title Published Date Language
- AirBuzz October-2011 English
- AirBuzz July - August-2009 English
- AirBuzz May-2009 English

I wonder if they can find enough positive news to issue these newsletter quarterly.

Newsletter Title Published Date Language
- AirBuzz October-2011 English
- AirBuzz July - August-2009 English
- AirBuzz May-2009 English

I wonder if they can find enough positive news to issue these newsletter quarterly.


Look at the latest one (October-2011), some interesting improvement of the airport. Of course it is not very significant but good progress

Why is the airport so bloody crowd with Muslim today?

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Why is the airport so bloody crowd with Muslim today?

"Bloody crowd with Muslim" ? Are you against them or is it you don't like them?

"Bloody crowd with Muslim" ? Are you against them or is it you don't like them?

I would have say the same thing if these are babe in bikinis?

I would have say the same thing if these are babe in bikinis?


So, you do like them, don't you?

So, you do like them, don't you?

Depends on what you want to mean by the term "like",

I don't like them, but there are no sense of hate in the statement.

I don't mind working with them, but I probably perfer to work with other religious group.

I don't like them (or any group that matter) to stand in groups of thousands and block peoples way, doesn't matter if they are protesting, or welcoming someone they idol. Even if they are protesting on something I support, or welcoming me.

Singapore, S.Korea airlines to launch flights to Cambodia in winter season

English.news.cn 2011-10-28 13:47:05
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PHNOM PENH, Oct. 28 (Xinhua) -- Two new foreign airlines, Tiger Airways Singapore and South Korea's Eastar Jet, will launch their regular flights to Cambodia in this winter season, from November to March, a senior official at Socit Concessionaire d'A roport (SCA), the operator of Cambodia's airports, said on Friday.
The Tiger Airways will start its daily flights between Singapore and Phnom Penh, capital of Cambodia, by A320 (180 seats) and one flight a week from Singapore to Siem Reap, Cambodia's largest cultural tourism destination, Emmanuel Menanteau, Chief Executive of SCA, said during a press briefing on the promotion of the winter season flights schedule.
He said the Eastar Jet is due to operate four weekly flights for the winter season between Seoul and Siem Reap with a B-737 ( 149 seats).
Including the two airlines, there have been 23 airlines operating regular flights at Cambodia's airports, said Emmanuel.
Cambodia has three international airports, one is Phnom Penh International Airport, another is Siem Reap International Airport, and the other is Sihanoukville International Airport. So far, only two airports have been in full operations as the Sihanoukville International Airport has no plane landing due to the low number of passengers to the area.
According to the passenger records by the SCA, in the first ten months of this year, the Phnom Penh International Airport had received 1.47 million passengers, up 11 percent compared to the same period last year, and the Siem Reap International Airport got 1.39 million travelers, up 14 percent.

Should we encourage more foreign airlines to fly here or promote Cambodia Angkor Air? Which and why?

one flight a week from Singapore to Siem Reap

what is this???

can you also post a link next time so we can read more

Should we encourage more foreign airlines to fly here or promote Cambodia Angkor Air? Which and why?

I don't understand, how does more inbound airline promote Angkor Air.

can you also post a link next time so we can read more

So you can't read the full text I posted?

^^ that doesnt look full it looks a bit chopped up, but anyways we still need a link for reference

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/world/2011-10/28/c_131217714.htm

Should we encourage more foreign airlines to fly here or promote Cambodia Angkor Air? Which and why?

I'd would promote Cambodia Angkor Air instead because at least it is part of Cambodia National Airlines. On the other hand, it is part foreign (owned and operated with planes registered with Vietnam Airlines. So, my choice is limited. However, I don't mind to promote Japan Airline flying to Cambodia because it is my prefered airline of the world. I can't wait to see it has schedule flight to Phnom Penh very soon.

Depends on what you want to mean by the term "like",

I don't like them, but there are no sense of hate in the statement.

I don't mind working with them, but I probably perfer to work with other religious group.

I don't like them (or any group that matter) to stand in groups of thousands and block peoples way, doesn't matter if they are protesting, or welcoming someone they idol. Even if they are protesting on something I support, or welcoming me.

OK, I understand your stand on Muslim. So, you'd never want to be a famous super star or something because you don't like crowds of any kind welcoming you.

OK, I understand your stand on Muslim. So, you'd never want to be a famous super star or something because you don't like crowds of any kind welcoming you.

:lol::lol::lol: you are right, I don't want to be famous.

I'd would promote Cambodia Angkor Air instead because at least it is part of Cambodia National Airlines. On the other hand, it is part foreign (owned and operated with planes registered with Vietnam Airlines. So, my choice is limited. However, I don't mind to promote Japan Airline flying to Cambodia because it is my prefered airline of the world. I can't wait to see it has schedule flight to Phnom Penh very soon.

I do not understand why we can not attract Japan airlines? Japanese used to be top visitor and now still top 4 most visitor in Cambodia behind Vietnam, Korea and China.

bcos our airport is not meet their requirement to land! If our runway can extend to 3500 i think some big airline will look forward for our market!

bcos our airport is not meet their requirement to land! If our runway can extend to 3500 i think some big airline will look forward for our market!

Doesn't Japanese airlines have smaller plane like the Korean?

Doesn't Japanese airlines have smaller plane like the Korean?

Yes, it does. I don't think it is much because of the runway's lenght. It is more about politics at home in Japan, and the market is that strong yet for JAL to have a schedule flight to Cambodia. It does have charter flight to Siamreap in the winter. It will loose share of passengers flying into and connect in BKK and Saigon, if it has direct flight to Phnom Penh. Maybe it has a big deal with Vietnam Airlines and Thai International and Bangkok Airways. Well, it has to fly directly to Cambodia one of these days for sure.

i think something more than runway such as Sky Tax ( Governement), Airport parking & filling petrol (Airport) cost alot than our neighbor

Japan is such a rich country and I dont think the airport cost matter Japanse airline. For me, tourist alone does not attract airline. Korea and China both have alot of trade, investment and tourist to Cambodia. Japan just started to invest

Interesting video of Cambodia airport history

"Gateway to Cambodia"

http://www.vinci-concessions.com/

what is construction in PP airport?

what is construction in PP airport?

I think they are building more parking spaces in front of the to-be new extention terminal, which will be the size of the old one or a bit bigger. So, in a few more year it will have doubled its size. The construction in the terminal, however, is for more shops.

They will spend about $170m for PP, SRP and Sihanouk vile airport to build more terminals and runways.

I have no idea why they keep extending PP airport while it locate in the city.

i have no idea about expanding terminal space? they should build new terminal at other side such as VIP or military side! expand taxi parking for planes!

For me the question is when they start, not where

There are alot of construction vehicles as well as material in the right hand side of the existing terminal. According to the information board, it is the "Aprom Extension phase 2". Can someone share more detail of this project if you know?

The airport is currently extends the plane parking for 3 more Boeing 747s in preparation for Asean meeting.

Do u think passenger plane like Boeing 747 and Airbus 380 can land and take off at Phnom Penh airport?

^^ No, that's what the others told me ..

Do u think passenger plane like Boeing 747 and Airbus 380 can land and take off at Phnom Penh airport?

the runway is not long enough for a full load commercial 747 to take off, about 200m short.

I think A380 actually need less runway, only 2750m, not sure if the rest of the airport can handle it, as it is bigger.

the runway is not long enough for a full load commercial 747 to take off, about 200m short.

I think A380 actually need less runway, only 2750m, not sure if the rest of the airport can handle it, as it is bigger.


Thanks. I watch an TV interview with CEO of Cambodia airport and he said Phnom Penh airport runway can support all type of large aircraft including the Airbus A380. Maybe he refer to aircraft for delegation not for passenger.

Thanks. I watch an TV interview with CEO of Cambodia airport and he said Phnom Penh airport runway can support all type of large aircraft including the Airbus A380. Maybe he refer to aircraft for delegation not for passenger.

A380 has less runway requirement, if the plane does not take the full load, it wilk need less space to take off.

did cambodia has another airport beside this one ??

did cambodia has another airport beside this one ??

We have 3 international airports

http://www.cambodia-airports.com/

all tree branches (branches, not the tree) next to the fence has been cut off like 2 - 3 weeks ago, it make the airport looks so naked.

We have 3 international airports

http://www.cambodia-airports.com/

How many airport are there, include domestic, some possible some that doesn't get used anymore, but the site/runway is still around.

I think my uncles used one in Battambag before the war.

How many airport are there, include domestic, some possible some that doesn't get used anymore, but the site/runway is still around.

I think my uncles used one in Battambag before the war.

Refer to this webside

http://www.civilaviation.gov.kh/

all tree branches (branches, not the tree) next to the fence has been cut off like 2 - 3 weeks ago, it make the airport looks so naked.

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Why are they doing that?

I think they doing that to make these trees grow many small hands and grow more leaf in stead of to let the tree grow taller with big hands and less leaf.
Soon the tip of the tree's hands that they just cut will grow many new hands.

^^ that could be the case, but if you want it to branch outward, you only need to trim the top, no need to cut all the branches.

This airport should be renovated to be more modern, i don't see anything special in this international airport :ohno:

i dont get it why is phnom penh airport smaller than this

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^^ this is Naypyidaw airport in Myanmar

is airport is only gonna get a few flights a day, why phnom penh with so many flights not getting a bigger airport

Because Cambodia is poor and demand is not there yet.

^^ nice to see you back

Siem Reap will need a new airport sooner than later. New arrivals are coming online with increasing frequency. I hope the speculated new airport will be built soon. Whoever decides to build it will profit nicely from landing fees and other revenue.

i dont get it why is phnom penh airport smaller than this


^^ this is Naypyidaw airport in Myanmar

is airport is only gonna get a few flights a day, why phnom penh with so many flights not getting a bigger airport

Because existing PPIA is no where near capacities.

If PP don't have an airport, and decide to build one today, it will most likely be bigger then Naypyidaw.

^^ i read in an aviation forum the mas pax allowable is 3million but now already more than 2 million is taken up, i think this is one of few reasons air asia has not opened in cambodia

^^ i read in an aviation forum the mas pax allowable is 3million but now already more than 2 million is taken up, i think this is one of few reasons air asia has not opened in cambodia

I don't know exactly the maximum capacities of PPIA in its existing state, the current terminal can be expanded to accommodate more traffic, a new terminal can be build on the military side and it should handle plenty more traffic. The airport operator should know what they are doing and expand when the time comes. I heard but I can't confirm the current operator got at least 20 more years to run the airport.

There are lots of renovation recently but it is all cosmetic with no real increase in capacities.

I think the current terminal should be redesign so the departure is on the top floor, and arrival is on the bottom floor, and possibly a 3rd and 4th floor for office/shopping/duty free and dinning.

I don't know exactly the maximum capacities of PPIA in its existing state, the current terminal can be expanded to accommodate more traffic, a new terminal can be build on the military side and it should handle plenty more traffic. The airport operator should know what they are doing and expand when the time comes. I heard but I can't confirm the current operator got at least 20 more years to run the airport.

There are lots of renovation recently but it is all cosmetic with no real increase in capacities.

I think the current terminal should be redesign so the departure is on the top floor, and arrival is on the bottom floor, and possibly a 3rd and 4th floor for office/shopping/duty free and dinning.

I think eventually they have to build a new and more modern terminal near by somewhere that would meet what you have described (more than two floors two of which are for departure and arrival independently).

I agree that PPIA can handle traffic more than 3 million if there is a bigger terminal and a full length taxiway so that planes can rotate quick off and on the runway for take off and landing. There is room to expand. You are right that the operator has at least more than 20 years to run the big three airports (PPIA, SRIA, and Sihanoukville Airport) in Cambodia. They definitely know what they are doing, cost saving is one of them. But, sooner or later they will have no choice, but to spend more money to improve the airports.

^^ i read in an aviation forum the mas pax allowable is 3million but now already more than 2 million is taken up, i think this is one of few reasons air asia has not opened in cambodia

I think I have read that too, but I thing it meat the current terminal and facilities, not the site.

Because existing PPIA is no where near capacities.

If PP don't have an airport, and decide to build one today, it will most likely be bigger then Naypyidaw.

I think so too.

ppia has only 3 aerobridges the smallest of any airport that does have aerobridges, so i think its time to expand,

for a few reasons:
- air asia said it is interested in starting an airline in cambodia but with the current airport its no use,
- second many country in ASEAN are upgrading airports to be ready for the ASEAN open skies agreement which means no restrictinos on flights
- you cant build an airport overnight, just because we still have capacity does that mean that our airport will not be congested by the time we need one, like that saying where khmer- dol trov kha terp mok yok, when you need you just take, doesnt happen

Building an new airport should only need a couple of years if you have the money and find someone that has the experience to coordinate big projects.

I do think we need to reserved a site for a new airport. So there will be no land right issues when the time comes.

ppia has only 3 aerobridges the smallest of any airport that does have aerobridges, so i think its time to expand,

for a few reasons:
- air asia said it is interested in starting an airline in cambodia but with the current airport its no use,
- second many country in ASEAN are upgrading airports to be ready for the ASEAN open skies agreement which means no restrictinos on flights
- you cant build an airport overnight, just because we still have capacity does that mean that our airport will not be congested by the time we need one, like that saying where khmer- dol trov kha terp mok yok, when you need you just take, doesnt happen

Actually it technically has 4 aerobridges if my memory serves me right. I am sure that the Cambodia airport authority and operator have thought about the fact the an airport can't be built in one day. I am sure they are planning something, but they don't make it public yet. In fact, they are expanding it now as we speak, but in a small step at a time. Another 5 to 10, we'll see the difference.

^^ but i dont think the current operator wants that, they have another 20 years left, so they dont want a new airport

Building an new airport should only need a couple of years if you have the money and find someone that has the experience to coordinate big projects.

I do think we need to reserved a site for a new airport. So there will be no land right issues when the time comes.

Big enough land is important. Otherwise, 20 more years will be difficult, if not impossible, to find a large enough to build a bigger and more modern airport around PP. The project itself would take 5 to 6 years the most for a medium size one.

^^ but i dont think the current operator wants that, they have another 20 years left, so they dont want a new airport

So, expanding the old is the alternative. Like I mentioned, build a much bigger terminal and a full length taxiway (now it is about half) for planes rotations so that take off and landing can occur faster and more sufficient.

^^ but i remember the noise is a big problem, when i was in phnom penh in toul kork, every morning the planes would wake me up, so i dont like the idea of expanding the existing airport, i can actually see the pollution from the plane when i was there, the plane looked about 20m long in contraction

To be exact, Cambodia airport company will manage the airport until 2040 for all 3 international airports which is 27 years from now. If it has to spend US$100 million airport expansion for PPIA alone esp for new terminal in the next few years, do you guys think it will make profit. Maybe! I believe it will request the goverment for possible extension

^^ but i remember the noise is a big problem, when i was in phnom penh in toul kork, every morning the planes would wake me up, so i dont like the idea of expanding the existing airport, i can actually see the pollution from the plane when i was there, the plane looked about 20m long in contraction

Noise is always an issue everywhere in the world, people choose to live around airport, airport get busier, then people complaint.

Even if they choose to relocate the airport, the area around it will becomes busy, then they will complain about noise as well.

If noise is a problem, move away from the flight path before things get worse.

To be exact, Cambodia airport company will manage the airport until 2040 for all 3 international airports which is 27 years from now. If it has to spend US$100 million airport expansion for PPIA alone esp for new terminal in the next few years, do you guys think it will make profit. Maybe! I believe it will request the goverment for possible extension

It is up to them to work out profitability.
Any sort of upgrade will no doubt result in extension to run the airport.

In general, people would go to the where that they can do business and has cheaper living (if they are not so rich). It does not matter where the airport is, like mrfusion said, people go after it. It is not the airport's noise problem because these people know it is there, like it or not.

Having said all these, if it is profitable and sensible economically, having a new bigger and more modern airport farther away from the city in the next decade is not a bad idea.

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^^ Phnom Penh route map

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^^ in addition to the above

How about Philippine route?

^^ in the siem reap thread, because cebu pacific has only launch manilla-siem reap but not phnom penh yet, but soon

Ohh.. thanks!

It is green again.

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Interesting structure above the storm water gutter that doesn't connect by a paved road.

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Dara Airport Hotel lands at Ratana Plaza

Phnom Penh Post

A new hotel serving the Phnom Penh International Airport opened on July 1 at Ratana Plaza on the left off Russian Boulevard just before Hanoi Road on the way to the airport from central Phnom Penh.

The Dara Airport Hotel has 155 rooms with a fifth-floor reception, swimming pool, bar and spa. A 60-room second addition to the hotel on an adjacent street, with 11 long-stay apartments, in a building along with a restaurant and a branch of Canadia Bank is scheduled to open in November. When the adjacent addition is opened, the hotel’s total room count will be 226.

General Manager Pierre Bernard, who formerly worked at the Cambodiana Hotel and the Independence Hotel in Sihanoukville, says one of the best features of the hotel is the fifth floor open area where guests can relax in the open air, adjacent to the lobby.

“The advantage is to be close to the airport,” Bernard said.

The hotel is part of the Ratana Plaza complex, which houses a Lucky supermarket, Lucky Burger, iOne computers and a number of other shops.

An opening promotion rate of $55 per night is being offered for single rooms, $60 for double. The rates will later increase to $80 plus, and $90 for a deluxe room. The suites, with living rooms, couches and big screen televisions, start from about $200.

The hotel’s restaurant is called Blue Sky and has Western, Khmer and Chinese menus. The Attitude Lounge is located adjacent to the fifth floor rotunda and reception area.

Bernard said the hotel would focus on corporate clients.

“We already have guests, a majority of them are corporate from the government and factory sector,” Bernard said. “We are close to the golf course and the Cambodia Country Club,” he said.

Fitness and pool membership is being offered in an early bird special for $64.50 per month.

I don't think it is close enough to PPIA to associcate itself to the airport, nor called it an airport hotel. Even Bali Resort is too far.

Wipe out the ugly shop houses opposite the airport, and build it there, then we start talking.

Read this today....

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It say..

The CEO of the Cambodia 3 International Airport Management indicated, it will invest $US 100million to expand the Phnom Penh and Siem Reap International airport so the it can handle twice the number of passenger.

He indicated, the plan will be complete before end of the year, once it get approved by the government, it can start construction first quater next year, estimate to complete by 2015, by then, each airport can handle 4.5 - 5 million passenger per year.

Read this today....


The CEO of the Cambodia 3 International Airport Management indicated, it will invest $US 100million to expand the Phnom Penh and Siem Reap International airport so the it can handle twice the number of passenger.

He indicated, the plan will be complete before end of the year, once it get approved by the government, it can start construction first quater next year, estimate to complete by 2015, by then, each airport can handle 4.5 - 5 million passenger per year.

This is good news. It is a start in improving the airports.

Cambodian airports to get $400 million upgrade

Tuesday, 06 November 2012
Written by Joe Bates
Airport-World.com


VINCI Airports will invest close to $400 million on upgrading Cambodia’s airport system over the next eight years, according to chairman, Nicolas Notebaert.


Notebaert, speaking at the Global Airport Development (GAD) conference in Paris earlier today, revealed that $80 million would be invested on an extension to the international terminal at Phnom Penh International Airport.


He said that a further $100 million will be spent on upgrading Siem Reap International Airport – gateway to the Angkor Wat UNESCO World Heritage site – between now and 2020.


And Notebaert told delegates that VINCI Airports has set aside an additional $200 million for improvements at Sihanoukville International Airport, despite the fact that the resort gateway only welcomed the return of scheduled services last December after a four year absence.




Expanding the terminal in Phnom Penh would allow for the installation of a new state-of-the-art baggage handling system and create more than 3,000sqm of retail space, according to Notebaert.


The revamp at Siem Reap would add six new gates and create a bigger and more efficient check-in area, he said.


While in addition to a new runway and passenger facilities, Notebaert revealed that Sihanoukville had been earmarked for a number of ‘airport city’ type developments.


Both Phnom Penh and Siem Reap airports are expected to break the two million passengers per annum total for the first time in 2012, while Cambodia’s developing tourism industry continues to drive up traffic at Sihanoukville.


“We need new facilities to handle traffic growth and to be able to continue to offer the high service standards we offer today,” says Notebaert, noting that Phnom Penh handled around 600,000 passengers in 1995 and Siem Reap just 200,000 as recently as in 2000.


The latest forecasts predict that Phnom Penh could be handling around 3mppa by as early as 2015, Siem Reap up to 4mppa by 2020 and Sihanoukville some 4mppa by 2025.


“We are a long-term investor and will continue to invest in and develop Cambodia’s airports throughout out 45 year concession, and firmly believe that our success can be replicated in other South East Asian countries," said Notebaert.


He said that VINCI Airports had “recently looked at Myanmar”, which had become much more an attractive proposition since the lifting of sanctions.

All three airports are operated by concessionaire Cambodia Airports, which is 70% owned by VINCI Airports.

It always sounds strange when we are talking about building a new airport, and at the same time, talk about spending astronomical amount to upgrade existing, it makes me wonder if one or possible both news are nothing less then bull shit.

dubai does both, they are build the al maktoum dubai world central, and still upgrading the current airport

It always sounds strange when we are talking about building a new airport, and at the same time, talk about spending astronomical amount to upgrade existing, it makes me wonder if one or possible both news are nothing less then bull shit.


Yes, it is confusing. I think the current airport operator believes that there will be no new airports in Siem Reap. The korean project is dead. They also believe new PP airport plan in just a vision and maybe be build in the next 30 to 40 years or may not be built at all. So they can make money from now untill 2050.

That is Cambodia Kingdom of Wonder.... always make Cambodian wonder but nothing
will happening, Most of world best investors now looking and invested in Myanmar.

Cambodian will be the major of house/construction workers in SE-Asia counties in the near future....
Hundreds of Cambodians left their home town to neighboring countries for survive daily.

dubai does both, they are build the al maktoum dubai world central, and still upgrading the current airport

They expect to use both, our new one is supose to replace the old one.

Summit ensnarement http://www.phnompenhpost.com/index.php/2012111659774/National-news/summit-ensnarement.html

not sure if the land reclaim was on the news back in July, but now it get mention

Armed forces yesterday arrested eight villagers who spray-painted “SOS” on their house roofs and displayed giant photos of US President Barack Obama in the hope of drawing his attention to their impending eviction when he arrives in Phnom Penh on Monday.


The spectre of eviction has haunted residents of more than 160 households since they were issued with notices in July telling them they would have to make way for an extension of the airport’s security fence. Many villagers, who say they have the required land documents allowing them to stay where they are, feared they would be evicted before the ASEAN Summit, which began yesterday.

If the residence rightfully own those land, then they should be compensate with whatever is the market price of their property.

Allow to extend the runway is a good thing, even if is not, I do believe it is the right thing to do to make sure no private business or residence directly adjacent the airport.

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If Camko City were to finish, it would look nice in the background :D

If Camko City were to finish, it would look nice in the background :D

yes but unfortunately, Camko seem stop developing right now xD:bash:

sorry but I need to say Phnom Penh need a new airport station, this old one very ugly xD Hope the city develop fast so they need to think about new airport. Like the one in Seam Reap, very beautiful... But wait, I heard that they are about to build another airport in Seam Reap right? why?

What is an "airport station"?

anyway, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Anybody has a render of the airport terminal expansion? Will they expand the existing terminal or build a new terminal as a seperate one? then we call it terminal 1 & 2

sorry but I need to say Phnom Penh need a new airport station, this old one very ugly xD Hope the city develop fast so they need to think about new airport. Like the one in Seam Reap, very beautiful... But wait, I heard that they are about to build another airport in Seam Reap right? why?

^^

First of all, there is no such term as "airport station". It is called "AIRPORT". I understand English is not your language. Secondly, it is extremely rude to voice your opinion in such a negative view. There are many Cambodians as well as foreigners who find this small international airport to be quite nice and unique.

Additionally, the Cambodian government has already made announcement that they will build a bigger international airport to accommodate future air traffic. Right now, it is still only in the early planning stage. The current airport has a lot of history. I highly doubt they will demolish it. I hope they convert it into a private airport once the new international airport is built.

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First of all, there is no such term as "airport station". It is called "AIRPORT". I understand English is not your language. Secondly, it is extremely rude to voice your opinion in such a negative view. There are many Cambodians as well as foreigners who find this small international airport to be quite nice and unique.

Additionally, the Cambodian government has already made announcement that they will build a bigger international airport to accommodate future air traffic. Right now, it is still only in the early planning stage. The current airport has a lot of history. I highly doubt they will demolish it. I hope they convert it into a private airport once the new international airport is built.
I never think that at all, but it's reasonable to be convert it to a private airport ^^
Because in the near future many rich Cambodian will have their own air plan.. So easy for them to land it in phnom penh :cheers:

I wished they would use this for a station for a new train station because the current one will be right in downtown Phnom Penh. I was thinking of someone having this place as a New train Station, A bus terminal and a Sky train terminal.

I wished they would use this for a station for a new train station because the current one will be right in downtown Phnom Penh. I was thinking of someone having this place as a New train Station, A bus terminal and a Sky train terminal.

Apparently a Phnom Penh bus terminal is planned somewhere, if the project real, it should be ready within years. PPIA2 will probably be 2 decades away.

A train stations, requires tracks to be there, and it requires massive amount of land reclaim to get tracks to the existing PPIA, if the train stations is not going to be next to existing track, it might as well be anywhere.

I think the PPIA should becomes a theme park. PP is too boring, and requires some serious attractions.

I serious don't believe we need a private airport, riches people with private plane can arrange to use the new airport.

Apparently a Phnom Penh bus terminal is planned somewhere, if the project real, it should be ready within years. PPIA2 will probably be 2 decades away.

A train stations, requires tracks to be there, and it requires massive amount of land reclaim to get tracks to the existing PPIA, if the train stations is not going to be next to existing track, it might as well be anywhere.

I think the PPIA should becomes a theme park. PP is too boring, and requires some serious attractions.

I serious don't believe we need a private airport, riches people with private plane can arrange to use the new airport.

What about the theme park in front of NagaWorld? But I understand we need something better, like roller coasters. Also I can show you a map I drew where they can put the rails. :D

The current airport can be serve as a domestic, or an airport use by the military

The theme park (in front of Naga World) is not a permanent structure, the owner build a theme park there to generate extra incomes rather than leaving the site empty.

What about the theme park in front of NagaWorld? But I understand we need something better, like roller coasters. Also I can show you a map I drew where they can put the rails. :D

That has a couple of rides, hardly a theme park.

Yes, show us how you want to put the rail there.

That has a couple of rides, hardly a theme park.

Yes, show us how you want to put the rail there.


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1.The Train Station
2.Por Senchey Sky Train Station
3.Bus Terminal
4.Garden
5.Parking Area
6. Mixed Commericial use area (Homes,Apartments,Stores etc)

Rail Tracks

The Red line shows where the existing train tracks are.
Blue line equals where the new one would be.

Just remember though this is what I think they should do with this area and this is not a real project.( Well I hope it will :) )

why bulldoze something that exist, sydney airport is only 7km from the city cant complain about that can you?

Sydney is looking to build a new/2nd airport, Sydney is in a very similar situation as Phnom Penh on this issue.

Why you guys discuss about this? it wont happen in the next 3 or 4 decades. The company who run this airport is planning to invest another $100m to upgrade handling capacity

The company is also investing in Siem Reap Airport, but we are also talking about 2nd SR airport.

The current airport can be serve as a domestic, or an airport use by the military

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I have a feeling it will eventually become a domestic and/or cargo airport. Strategically, military planners will unlikely use this as an air base. They will have an air base on the outskirt of the city. Western military planners, especially the United States, believe having an air base in the outlying area will lessen the impact of airstrike during the war. Collateral damage will be much smaller.

This airport/air base used to be on the outskirt of the city, but Phnom Penh has grown over the years.

Why you guys discuss about this? it wont happen in the next 3 or 4 decades. The company who run this airport is planning to invest another $100m to upgrade handling capacity

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Why are we discussing this topic? It's for a very simple reason - the Cambodian government had already stated there will be a new international airport to replace the current airport. It won't happen overnight, but it will materialize. The $100m upgrade is just a temporary solution. The current land mass of Pochentong International Airport is just too small for today's standard. The upgrade will only be good until 2025. We're talking about 2 decades or so away.

I sincerely believe this topic is very much relevant. Airport handling capacity is always an issue for a rapidly growing city like Phnom Penh. The reality is that Phnom Penh is now an international destination.

the land is much too valuable to continue use as airport, if passenger fast rail materialise in the next 20 - 25 years (when the new airport is ready), domestic air travel may disappear.

the land is much too valuable to continue use as airport, if passenger fast rail materialise in the next 20 - 25 years (when the new airport is ready), domestic air travel may disappear.

Very good point. If ground transportation infrastructure is improved, then there is no need to fly since the country is so small. I think a combination of high speed rail/freeway heading north, south, east and west from Phnom Penh will be sufficient.

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^^ What does this have to do with the airport?

i think discussions related to the new airport should not be discussed in this thread i will create a new one, even if this project wont happen for a long time, there is no harm discussing about it

Refer to this thread for the new airport - Kampong Chhnang | Phnom Penh International Airport (Future) | Proposal

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WOAH, thanks kimmy, so burger king will start to franchise in cambodia!

Refer to this thread for the new airport - Kampong Chhnang | Phnom Penh International Airport (Future) | Proposal

I second this. This could be real because I have met with a few people working for Cambodia Aviation Department in Phnom Penh, and they told me that there is plan underway to study the possibility that could impact people living around the area of the Kampong Chhnang | Phnom Penh International Airport (Future) |. It is about 60 km from Phnom Penh centre. Also, the plan includes building a four-lane freeway and an express train line from the airport to Phnom Penh as well. However, it is still more than a decade to go because the present airport is not up to full capacity yet.

They don't make this public for being afraid that people would buy lands around the area and freeway which could cost government lots of money to buy back in the future.

For now, according to these people, the expansion of the this current airport is the way to go. At the present location, the current airport can be made handle 7 mil per year max. (now is about 2 mil - 3 mil). It is expanding the international terminal to the right of the existing with more gates, two of which have air bridges and room that can handle 300 to 400 passengers at a time so that the big birds with 300+ people can come in with ease. Then, they will build another parallel taxiway to the other end of the run way as well in order to speed up and increase airplane movements so that taking off and landing can be done as quick as possible to be able to handle more planes in a busy time. This would give PNH a capacity of 5 mil per year (Still more room to grow).

If it is full in the next ten years, then Kampong Chhnang | Phnom Penh International Airport (Future) | will be the next PNH in two decades.

The bad thing though, I'll be too old to enjoy the new airport.

^^ good to know

WOAH, thanks kimmy, so burger king will start to franchise in cambodia!

I wonder if it is going to be outside like the Pizza Company, or inside the restricted area.

I wonder if it is going to be outside like the Pizza Company, or inside the restricted area.

Outside, just like the Pizza company

I second this. This could be real because I have met with a few people working for Cambodia Aviation Department in Phnom Penh, and they told me that there is plan underway to study the possibility that could impact people living around the area of the Kampong Chhnang | Phnom Penh International Airport (Future) |. It is about 60 km from Phnom Penh centre. Also, the plan includes building a four-lane freeway and an express train line from the airport to Phnom Penh as well. However, it is still more than a decade to go because the present airport is not up to full capacity yet.

They don't make this public for being afraid that people would buy lands around the area and freeway which could cost government lots of money to buy back in the future.

For now, according to these people, the expansion of the this current airport is the way to go. At the present location, the current airport can be made handle 7 mil per year max. (now is about 2 mil - 3 mil). It is expanding the international terminal to the right of the existing with more gates, two of which have air bridges and room that can handle 300 to 400 passengers at a time so that the big birds with 300+ people can come in with ease. Then, they will build another parallel taxiway to the other end of the run way as well in order to speed up and increase airplane movements so that taking off and landing can be done as quick as possible to be able to handle more planes in a busy time. This would give PNH a capacity of 5 mil per year (Still more room to grow).

If it is full in the next ten years, then Kampong Chhnang | Phnom Penh International Airport (Future) | will be the next PNH in two decades.

The bad thing though, I'll be too old to enjoy the new airport.


Do you know when they start the expansion of existing terminal?

Do you know when they start the expansion of existing terminal?

They said they've had the drawing in hands and start digging very soon, probably in around the summer this year, if plan goes well.

I really want to see how the terminal look like after expansion. I think they need to have more check in, immigration, Luggage handling and boarding area. Some more space for shopping. They should consider to have space for display Cambodia history too

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as of 2013, route map phnom penh

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and this one too

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The construction of Burger King in the airport is doing well.

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looks like is open.

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Yes, BK is open, on Wednesday I want to order a Ice Latte, they said they don't have any.

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^^ the priced are way too high i had hungry jacks yesterday and 2 whoppers are $6 AUD