I always wondered what they are to build here:

http://a.imageshack.us/img25/5389/flairtowers.jpg

A two-tower high-rise along Reliance corner Pines street, near EDSA

Studio Unit
24 - 28 sqm.
Php 1.6M - 1.9M

2 BR
48 - 75 sqm.
Php 2.3M - 4M

3 BR
61.5 - 113 sqm.
Php 3.5M - 10.5M

Soon to Rise!!!

NO DOWNPAYMENT!!!

Location:

http://a.imageshack.us/img829/5565/flairtowersgooglemap.jpg

For Announcement Purposes Only

Source: http://www.dmci-homes.ph/Flair-Towers.aspx

July 19, 2010
DMCI Homes Gears up for 2nd Semester 2010

Excerpt:
Not resting on its laurels, DMCI Homes proceeds with the launch of more developments in 2010. By the second half of the year, it will be unveiling new projects in very strategic locations: a twin high-rise tower located behind the Manila Adventist Hospital along Donada St. in Taft Ave., Pasay; a two-tower high-rise along Reliance corner Pines St. near EDSA, Mandaluyong City; a medium-rise condo village in Visayas Avenue, Quezon City; a boutique condo enclave in P. Tuazon, Quezon City; a medium-rise development in West Service Road, Bicutan, Parañaque City; and another medium-rise property in Sucat, Muntinlupa City that will be set on a sprawling 3 hectare property.

Source: http://www.dmcihomes.com/whats_new_inner.php?id=1019

Very Nice. I would recommend this more than SM Light Residences as of now. :cheers: Its a 2-minute walk to the Pioneer MRT Station and 5-min walk Robinson's Pioneer and 8-15mins walk to Shangri-la (based from experience)

^^ Hi @lighter.

Hope you are well.

uhm.. I am not bashing SMDC Light Residences or something. Sorry to disappoint you. I am just saying, that I will recommend this more from now on, based on DMCI's track record. :peace:

Another thing, if you stay at Pioneer Highlands as much as I do, then feel free to provide your own experience. I do not make-up stories here in SSC. Seriously, I tried to walk these distances. Again, :peace: :cheers:

been waiting for this project. 2BR 48sqm, 2.3M?

please pm the details asap. thanks

wow

DMCI ulit wow!!!:banana:

Can someone post the payment terms and computation? Or please PM me. Thanks.

wow! finally, a DMCI project near mrt and ortigas! i'm sure this will be good!

also i agree with leechtat. DMCI has a better track record than SMDC. choosing light (SMDC) and flair tower (DMCI), i'd choose DMCI's. at least you won't get shortchange for your money. good move in choosing dmci leechtat!

wow! finally, a DMCI project near mrt and ortigas! i'm sure this will be good!

also i agree with leechtat. DMCI has a better track record than SMDC. choosing light (SMDC) and flair tower (DMCI), i'd choose DMCI's. at least you won't get shortchange for your money. good move in choosing dmci leechtat!

I think that's what Leechat meant "track record" hindi ung layo ng MEgamall, MRT etc.

still cant wait for the render. . . .

^^ yes, i meant dmci's track record is very good from quality to turnover.

also, i'm very familiar with the pioneer area so you will think that sm light and flair is far from each other, but its a very very short walk. from edsa central also you can just go straight from reliance frontage to mayflower, its a good exercise.

Can someone post the payment terms and computation? Or please PM me. Thanks.

^^ none yet. most likely though it would be the same as the other projects. will keep this thread posted.

Flair Towers will be launched soon. We are just waiting for the signal to formally launch the project.

Expect it to be like the other projects of DMCI Homes: with generous space intended for ground level amenities and lumiventte technology.

what an aggressive player, that is DMCI. keep it coming!

based on existing or past high-rise projects of dmci, how much would be the approx monthly dues of a 48sqm unit ?

Went to Brokers Briefing Yesterday and was surprised to find out that Flair Towers has a 60 to 70% open space! This is a welcome development considering the location and the density of condo units in the area.

been waiting for this project. 2BR 48sqm, 2.3M?

please pm the details asap. thanks



it will gonna be launched anytime this year....

Went to Brokers Briefing Yesterday and was surprised to find out that Flair Towers has a 60 to 70% open space! This is a welcome development considering the location and the density of condo units in the area.

that the trademark of DMCI... malaki open space ng mga projects nila kaya maganda:banana::banana:

May 1 BR kaya dito?

Question lang po, let say 50 yrs ang life ng building. ano mangyayari sa mga owner? kung lifetime ownership?

thanks.

May 1 BR kaya dito?

Question lang po, let say 50 yrs ang life ng building. ano mangyayari sa mga owner? kung lifetime ownership?

thanks.

Anybody!?!?!?!?!??! :bash:

^^ sent you pm

when's the turnover? location is great!

wala pa rin bang balita?

Hi - I am insterested in buying a 1 bedroom unit here. PM me the details.

^^ renders...

http://a.imageshack.us/img525/2980/highriserep.jpg

http://a.imageshack.us/img695/3164/flairamenities01.jpg

http://a.imageshack.us/img155/307/flairamenities02.jpg

edit:

source: http://www.flairtowers.com/

Let's just wait for the official render.

do you have the unit layouts? prices? where is this facing? EDSA?

isnt this tivoli gardens.

^^

from tivoli Gardens thread

Latest/Final Renders of the Towers :)

http://i30.tinypic.com/auf30z.jpg

exactly the same

^^ edited post above.

^^

http://www.flairtowers.com/images/stories/Flair/Building/Flair%20perspective%20.jpg

got this rendering from their website (http://www.flairtowers.com/)

^^ Let's hope it the right render now.. Lets post details as soon as its available..

See Fact Sheet: http://www.scribd.com/doc/37086560/Flair-Towers-DMCI-Mandaluyong-Condo-for-Sale

no 1 BR? shame!

hmm.. ganda.. sana they will have a commercial space for lease.. hehe

not bad..

. . . Got these pictures from one of the property consultants . . .

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j104/sq0111204/Flair%20Towers/Flairlocation.gif

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j104/sq0111204/Flair%20Towers/Flairtopview.gif

^^ nice. thanks for the updates. this is the first condo i will buy.

Anybody!?!?!?!?!??! :bash:

you could take it as it is. kung 50 years lang, you own the place for 50 years. after that it returns back to the owners. this goes esp. if the land is not owned by the developer. like it was leased or something like that. but if it's perpetual ownership, it's yours as long as it lasts :D

kaya better check sa contract whether its perpetual or there is only a timeframe. this seldom happens though as most developers own the lot where their project is located.

^^ nice. thanks for the updates. this is the first condo i will buy.

wow congrats if you are going for this! :cheers:

Wow, where did you got those renders SQ? you must have an insider at dmci right?

^^ nice. thanks for the updates. this is the first condo i will buy.

why Flair? what do you like most about this condo as Pioneer Woodlands
and Light are also within this same location?

. . . Got these pictures from one of the property consultants . . .

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j104/sq0111204/Flair%20Towers/Flairlocation.gif

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j104/sq0111204/Flair%20Towers/Flairtopview.gif

ganda namn.. are you from dmci? im interested in all commercial space ng dmci.. kaso i cant find a direct contact.. hopefully kaw na un.. hehe

May news na ba dito?

^^ no details yet. just some teaser brochures. end of month malamang meron na yan..

Flair Towers DMCI Mandaluyong is a two-tower high rise condominium project of DMCI Homes, along Reliance corner Pines St. near EDSA, Mandaluyong City.

DMCI Homes is the country’s first Triple A builder and developer of premium quality, urban-friendly, fully serviced communities for the underserved young families of modest income that aspire to live comfortably near their place of work, of study and of leisure.

Flair Towers – a two-tower high-rise along Reliance corner Pines St. near EDSA.

The site of Flair Towers DMCI Mandaluyong is along Reliance Street corner Pines Street in Mandaluyong. It is a 40-storey twin tower development with a total land area of 1.45 hectares. 75% or 1.08 hectares will be dedicated to open space.
Total Size of Development : Approximately 1.45 Hectares
Type of Development : High-Rise Residential Condominium
40 Storey Buildings (Twin Towers)
Single-loaded, Double-Row Building Type Resort Themed-Development

Composition: 2 Towers
2,066 Units

Unit Types: Studio, 2-BR, 2-BR Deluxe and 3-BR

Size of Amenity Area: Approximately 1.08 Hectares Open Spaces
75% Alloted to Amenities

No. of Parking Lots: 1,413 Slots (68%)

Unit Types Available
1. Studio units
2. 2-Bedroom units
3. 2-Bedroom Deluxe units
4. 3-Bedroom Suites

Flair Towers DMCI Mandaluyong will have resort and country club-like amenities like swimming pools, pavilions, a basketball court, garden trails and many more. Property management will be part of the services offered to ensure worry-free living for the residents. About 1.08 hectare is allocated to open space and amenities.

Typical DMCI communities are equipped with complete resort-like amenities that include:

* Clubhouse with function rooms, bar, KTV room and view deck
* Adult and kiddie resort type swimming pools
* Basketball and badminton courts
* Well-landscaped open areas, parks and playground
* Jogging and biking paths

Modern-day facilities that are standard features in the developments and contribute to a more convenient lifestyle are:

* 24-hour security service
* Gated entrance and perimeter fence
* Overhead water tank, deep well and underground cistern
* Automatic heat/smoke detection
* Individual drying area at the roof deck
* Provision for CATV and telephone lines

Flair Towers DMCI Mandaluyong is situated along Reliance Street corner Pines Street near EDSA , in Mandaluyong at the back of Paragon Plaza Building.

As the site is near EDSA, Flair Towers DMCI Mandaluyong is easily accessible by private and public transportation. It is in between two MRT stations (Boni Avenue and Shaw Blvd stations) on the Manila MRT Blue Line (MRT-3). Its nearest landmarks include Forum Robinsons, Victor Potenciano Medical Center and Paragon Plaza Building among others. It is also located near the headquarters of Globe Telecom at Pioneer Street.

How to get to Flair Towers DMCI Mandaluyong:

1. From Makati
Take EDSA, Make a right turn to Reliance Street.

2. From Quezon City
Take EDSA, Make a right turn in Boni Avenue,
Make a U-turn at Dansalan Street,
Take the underground tunnel to Pioneer Street,
Make a left turn to Sheridan Street and
Make a right turn in Reliance Street.

Nearby Establishments
1. Hospitals / Medical Centers

* Victor R Potenciano Medical Center
* Unciano General Hospital
* Rizal Medical Center
* Mary Immaculate Hospital
* Mandaluyong City Medical Center

2. Schools

* Lourdes School of Mandaluyong
* International Baptist College
* University of Asia and the Pacific

3. Churches

* St. Francis of Assisi Church
* Edsa Shrine

4. Commercial Areas

* EDSA Central Market
* Shangri-La Plaza Mall
* Star Mall
* Podium
* Robinsons Place Pioneer


For more information, reservation, computation and site viewing schedule:

Telephone: (+632) 502-8116
Mobile: (+63) 917-8373624
Email: dmciquery@yahoo.com
www.dmci-homes.com.ph

hey guys. more question.

1. let say magkaroon (sana naman wag) ng earthquake habang hindi pa turnover at nagkadamage/nasira ang building. ano mangyayari?

2. let say na turnover na, at nagkadamage/nasira ang building. ano din mangyayari? may insurance ba ang unit? if yes, how much? (1BR unit)

Pasensya na po, first time investor kasi.

thanks. :D

anyway, nadadaan ako dito madalas. parang naghuhukay na sila. nakabakod na din yung area na green with DMCI LOGO. nadadaanan ng jeep from BONI (SOGO jeepney)

hey guys. more question.

1. let say magkaroon (sana naman wag) ng earthquake habang hindi pa turnover at nagkadamage/nasira ang building. ano mangyayari?

2. let say na turnover na, at nagkadamage/nasira ang building. ano din mangyayari? may insurance ba ang unit? if yes, how much? (1BR unit)

Pasensya na po, first time investor kasi.

thanks. :D

1. The developer will make a claim to their insurance and rebuild.

2. The condominium board on behalf of the condominium association should have obtained coverage from its inception. If so, the insurance is supposed to cover the damage based on the policy taken by the condominium board. If the policy taken is to rebuild the condominium, then the insurance is obligated to rebuild. If the policy is less than the cost to rebuild, the condominium will have to decide what to do. One option is for the members to shoulder the difference and another option is for a payout. Personal contents owned by individual unit owners are separate and is not part of the condominium policy coverage. It’s up to each individual unit owners to obtain their own separate insurance coverage for the contents of their unit from the time they took possession.

The above is only an expression of my opinion and I am not a lawyer; hence take it with a grain of salt.

anyway, nadadaan ako dito madalas. parang naghuhukay na sila. nakabakod na din yung area na green with DMCI LOGO. nadadaanan ng jeep from BONI (SOGO jeepney)

^^ true. i see the area from my friend's condo window.. even at night they are starting digging. kudos dmci.

^^ nice. thanks for the updates. this is the first condo i will buy.

wow, this project must be really good for leechtat to choose this among the many projects he handles.. :banana: i find him credible so for him to choose this means a lot about how great this project must be. I just bought another property with DMCI.. really love this developer. it recently gave me a lot of earnings from its stocks in just months. :)

^^ if i can afford park terraces today, i will buy it. but since i am still starting, this i believe is bang for the buck. love the area. i stay at pioneer highlands mostly.

area is walking distance to shangri-la and robinsons. near all main areas of business - bgc, makati, ortigas. and its Location, location, location. area will be denser in the future with avida towers coming across but still great location. quiet at night, 24/7 shops due to BPO offices near area. Cheap 15-hr rate parking at Robinson's. friendlier payment terms. credible developer by DMCI.

honestly, its a pick between the grove and this one. since they are both affordable/manageable due to their terms. but this has a better location than the grove. and the grove is a bit more pricey. hope plans will push through..

details are not yet out. PM me for more info on Flair.

hey guys. more question.

1. let say magkaroon (sana naman wag) ng earthquake habang hindi pa turnover at nagkadamage/nasira ang building. ano mangyayari?

2. let say na turnover na, at nagkadamage/nasira ang building. ano din mangyayari? may insurance ba ang unit? if yes, how much? (1BR unit)

Pasensya na po, first time investor kasi.

thanks. :D

You can also buy an insurance for your unit. The premium depends on the amount to be insured and the insurer (company).

Thanks to all po.. sana makapagdecision na dad ko...

Flair Towers is going to be launched November

Cheers

Anybody!?!?!?!?!??! :bash:


Ngayon kasi, lifetime ownership na e. for as long as you own the unit and the whole development's common areas are managed by the condo corp, all the owners will enjoy lifetime benefits of owning the property.

But if a strong earthquake (for example) rocks the buildings and majority of it were damaged beyond repair, all the unit owners embodied in the condo corp may opt to sell the remaining development plus the land (i.e. to demolition companies) and have all the proceeds divided among the members/unit owners in ration to their unit ownership. For example, A unit owner having one unit will get less than the one having two.

^^ Teaser Flyer For Flair Towers..

http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/9678/flairflyer.jpg

^^ Teaser Flyer For Flair Towers..

http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/9678/flairflyer.jpg

Wow exciting! Teka, di kaya mahulog sa crane yung family?

Taken 10-10-10.

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/7526/flairtowersexcavation.jpg

Found this on a sulit ad

Floor plans

http://dmcihomes01.webs.com/35.JPG

http://dmcihomes01.webs.com/36.JPG

http://dmcihomes01.webs.com/37.JPG

http://dmcihomes01.webs.com/38.JPG

Few renders more on the site below

http://www.dmcihomes.com/image.php?dmci=3075&type=3.2

http://www.dmcihomes.com/image.php?dmci=3076&type=3.2

Source - http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/2559970/SOON+TO+RISE+FLAIR+TOWER++RESORT+TYPE+CONDO+BY+DMCI%2C+prime+location+almost+along+EDSA+%40+RELIANCE+ST.+PIONEER+MANDALUYONG+CITY..+AS+LOW+AS+8K/MOS..RESERVATION+OF+UNIT+20K+START+NOW!!call+063-9178878508%2C+02-5062041?referralKeywords=flair+towers

Those renders are not Flair's. They are for La Verti.
http://www.dmcihomes.com/project.php?id=1026&name=La_Verti_Residences

^^ Ok thanks for pointing that out, i have deleted the post. please delete your quote of me to avoid any confusion.

Flair Towers Reliance St., Mandaluyong Updates
FLAIR TOWERS UPDATES AS OF OCT. 8, 2010

TENTATIVE LAUNCHING DATE: OCTOBER 28, 2010.

Figures first release:

Studio units approximately 24 sqm valued at approximately 1.8-2M.

1BR units approximately 29 sqm up valued at approximately 2.1-2.2M.

Figures might still go down upon official launching.

www.dmci-homes.com.ph

We will know this week when we will be briefed for the projects launching on October 29, 2010. Once I got the info on prices, I will post them here. For those who are interested, please ready your reservation check, php 20,000. Please PM me if you have queries

^^ ang competitive ng price points niya for the area. there are 6 projects pre-selling or will be selling in this area alone. much like bgc.

the greatest possibility is the BGC-manda bridge. It will definitely enhance this transit-oriented mini-cbd area - pioneer.

In addition its a twin-tower 40 floor building, standing on approximately 1.5HA land

^^ ang competitive ng price points niya for the area. there are 6 projects pre-selling or will be selling in this area alone. much like bgc.

the greatest possibility is the BGC-manda bridge. It will definitely enhance this transit-oriented mini-cbd area - pioneer.

Does that include already the planned Avida/PNB project there along EDSA corner Reliance? 8 towers daw yun on a 2.5 hectare lot.

^^ yes. i have included that.

so its:

- flair towers by dmci
- light residences by smdc
- pioneer woodlands by east empire/mw
- avida towers pioneer
- twin oaks by greenfield
- sunshine 100 by chinese investor - siy
- gateway regency by rlc

:banana:

check this link for more Flair Towers information

www.flairdmci.com (http://www.flairdmci.com)

I was told that the offer price will be similar to La Verti's price range.
Studio will be priced at 1.8M to 2M, 1br = 2.2M to 3.2M and 2br = 3.4M+

The Flair Towers (http://www.alabangcondominium.com/mandaluyong-city/flair-towers.htm) is much awaited project of DMCI because of its strategic location in the area of Mandaluyong

http://www.alabangcondominium.com//images/stories/mandaluyong/flair-towers/Flair-tower-bldg.jpg


http://www.alabangcondominium.com//images/stories/mandaluyong/flair-towers/flairtower-location.jpg

This coming thursday, we will have the project briefing, will post the price info here as soon as possible

Here are the prices po, straight from the orientation today:

Unit Sizes and Prices:

Studio 24 sqm - 1.96M

1 Bedroom 29 sqm with 14.5 balcony - 2.3M
1 Bedroom 29 sqm - 2.29M

2 Bedrooms Regular 48 sqm with 19 sqm balcony - 3.6M
2 Bedrooms Deluxe 52 sqm with 17 sqm balcony - 4.2M

3 Bedrooms 66 sqm with 14 sqm balcony - 5.5M

We can help you reserve units here, we have full time agents to assist you, pls PM me for details

does the studio - 24sqm come with a balcony? 24sqm+balcony?

Here are the prices po, straight from the orientation today:

Unit Sizes and Prices:

Studio 24 sqm - 1.96M

1 Bedroom 29 sqm with 14.5 balcony - 2.3M
1 Bedroom 29 sqm - 2.29M

2 Bedrooms Regular 48 sqm with 19 sqm balcony - 3.6M
2 Bedrooms Deluxe 52 sqm with 17 sqm balcony - 4.2M

3 Bedrooms 66 sqm with 14 sqm balcony - 5.5M

We can help you reserve units here, we have full time agents to assist you, pls PM me for details

hi zandro, can you please clarify, are the size of balconies posted above correct? parang ang laki kasi masyado. and also, parang ang weird, 1BR with balcony & that without, difference is only 100k and its 14.5sqm additional floor area? thanks.

There's gotta be something wrong with zandro's post.. the balconies are just unreasonably big for such small units.. And the balcony of the 3br is smaller than those of 1br and 2br? Even the prices do not jibe. Only an additional 10k for a 14.5sq.m. balcony?

ang laki ng mga balcony! parang sayang ang space...
can anyone confirm if this indeed is correct?

hey guys .. 4.5 ung balcony...

uuhhmm.. 'LIL bit of common sense??? 4.5 for balcony.. sent by my agent

There's gotta be something wrong with zandro's post.. the balconies are just unreasonably big for such small units.. And the balcony of the 3br is smaller than those of 1br and 2br? Even the prices do not jibe. Only an additional 10k for a 14.5sq.m. balcony?

DMCI agent told me that the big balconies are on the ground and second floors. A 2 bedroom unit (48sqm without balcony) on the third floor costs P3.062M :)

FLAIR TOWERS Reliance Mandaluyong

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Advanced Reservations Starts Tomorrow October 22. Good Luck Everyone!


More Information, Terms and Computations on FLAIR TOWERS (http://www.dmci.bobonbeachresort.com/flair-towers-dmci-reliance-mandaluyong/)

hello ,

Im Jenny Saure from DMCI HOmes Property Consultant about your concern , I please to give you a sample computation for Flair Towers in Pioneer MAndaluyong.

only 20% Downpayment po tayo , 40 months construction , turn over will be feb 2014. 20k reservation fee.

P 9,780 per month for Studio Units for 40 months,
and then yung 80% Balance thrught Bank Finance only 16k for 15 yrs..

for more info. please contact me on my mobile: 09153365691/ 02 6664885 or please leave a contact number and i will call you back thanks...

Can someone post the payment terms and computation? Or please PM me. Thanks.
hello ,

Im Jenny Saure from DMCI HOmes Property Consultant about your concern , I please to give you a sample computation for Flair Towers in Pioneer MAndaluyong.

only 20% Downpayment po tayo , 40 months construction , turn over will be feb 2014. 20k reservation fee.

P 9,780 per month for Studio Units for 40 months,
and then yung 80% Balance thrught Bank Finance only 16k for 15 yrs..

for more info. please contact me on my mobile: 09153365691/ 02 6664885 or please leave a contact number and i will call you back thanks...

Naunahan ako.. haha.. I like it.. :applause:

San Miguel pala ang previous property owner ng site, my friend from san miguel told me na madami multo daw dito sa pines.. hehe.. takot ako.. kasi once i parked there and may experience ako diyan..

but i am sure, pina-bless na yan.. so good vibes na ang area.. :cheerS:

^^ care to share it? Halloween special =)

Selling is going too well. I can't believe it. Studios are running out fast

:banana:

Here is the link to the latest update for Flair Towers (http://www.flairdmci.com)DMCI Mandaluyong.

http://dmcisales.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/flair-towers-dmci-reliance-south-tower.jpg
(http://www.flairdmci.com)
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Here are the prices po, straight from the orientation today:

Unit Sizes and Prices:

Studio 24 sqm - 1.96M

1 Bedroom 29 sqm with 14.5 balcony - 2.3M
1 Bedroom 29 sqm - 2.29M

2 Bedrooms Regular 48 sqm with 19 sqm balcony - 3.6M
2 Bedrooms Deluxe 52 sqm with 17 sqm balcony - 4.2M

3 Bedrooms 66 sqm with 14 sqm balcony - 5.5M

We can help you reserve units here, we have full time agents to assist you, pls PM me for details


whoa! Im sorry. i got info from the phone and they must be panicking when they gave me this, anyway, here it is

Studio 24 sqm - 1.959M

1 Bedroom 32 sqm with 9.5 balcony - 3.122M
1 Bedroom 29 sqm - 2.296M

2 Bedrooms Regular 48 sqm - 3.074M
2 Bedrooms Deluxe 48 sqm with 12 sqm balcony - 3.452M

3 Bedrooms 66.5 sqm with 9.5 sqm balcony - 5.216M

A lot were sold today, grabe galing! Reserve now or forever hold your peace!

hello ,

I'm Jenny Saure of DMCI Homes Property Consultant , kakalaunch lang po yesterday Oct 21 ng Flair, pls contact me po for more information , feel free to call/text me on my mobile or landline : 09153365691 / 02 6664885. thanks and God Bless .

FLAIR TOWERS
Reliance st, Pioneer mandaluyong City



FLAIR TOWERS Reliance Mandaluyong

























































Unit Types

* Studio Unit: approx 24 sqm- LP: P1.8m, DP AS LOW AS P8,000 PER MONTH
* 1-Bedroom Unit: approx 31 sqm- LP: P2M, DP AS LOW AS P9,000 PER MONTH
* 2-Bedroom Unit: approx 48 sqm- LP: P3.7M, DP AS LOW AS P16,000 PER MONTH
* 3-Bedroom Unit: approx 66 sqm- LP: P4.8M, DP AS LOW AS P22,000 PER MONTH



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REASONS TO BUY:

1. PRIME LOCATION

2. SECURED, EXCLUSIVE & QUITE ENCLAVE

3. HIGHER RETURN OF INVESTMENT

4. LUMIVENTTE (LUMINOUS & WELL VENTILATED BLDG)

5. FLOOD FREE & WITHOUT NEIGHBOR SQUATTER

6. VERY ACCESSIBLE

7. 1 HECTARE AMENITIES ONLY

Flair Towers – a two-tower high-rise along Reliance corner Pines St. near EDSA.
The site of Flair DMCI Towers DMCI Mandaluyong is along Reliance Street corner Pines Street in Mandaluyong. It is a 40-storey twin tower development with a total land area of 1.45 hectares. 75% or 1.08 hectares will be dedicated to open space.

Total Size of Development : Approximately 1.45 Hectares
Type of Development : High-Rise Residential Condominium

40 Storey Buildings (Twin Towers)
Single-loaded, Double-Row Building Type Resort Themed-Development

Composotion: 2 Towers
2,066 Units
Unit Types: Studio, 2-BR, 2-BR Deluxe and 3-BR
Size of Amenity Area: Approximately 1.08 Hectares Open Spaces
75% Alloted to Amenities
No. of Parking Lots: 1,413 Slots (68%)

Flair Towers DMCI Mandaluyong will have resort and country club-like amenities like swimming pools, pavilions, a basketball court, garden trails and many more. Property management will be part of the services offered to ensure worry-free living for the residents. About 1.08 hectare is allocated to open space and amenities.
Typical DMCI communities are equipped with complete resort-like amenities that include:

Clubhouse with function rooms, bar, KTV room and view deck
Adult and kiddie resort type swimming pools
Basketball and badminton courts
Well-landscaped open areas, parks and playground
Jogging and biking paths

Modern-day facilities that are standard features in the developments and contribute to a more convenient lifestyle are:
24-hour security service
Gated entrance and perimeter fence
Overhead water tank, deep well and underground cistern
Automatic heat/smoke detection
Individual drying area at the roof deck
Provision for CATV and telephone lines

Flair Towers DMCI Mandaluyong is situated along Reliance Street corner Pines Street near EDSA , in Mandaluyong at the back of Paragon Plaza Building.
As the site is near EDSA, Flair Towers DMCI Mandaluyong is easily accessible by private and public transportation. It is in between two MRT stations (Boni Avenue and Shaw Blvd stations) on the Manila MRT Blue Line (MRT-3). Its nearest landmarks include Forum Robinsons, Victor Potenciano Medical Center and Paragon Plaza Building among others. It is also located near the headquarters of Globe Telecom at Pioneer Street.

How to get to Flair Towers DMCI Mandaluyong:
1. From Makati
Take EDSA, Make a right turn to Reliance Street.

2. From Quezon City
Take EDSA, Make a right turn in Boni Avenue,
Make a U-turn at Dansalan Street,
Take the underground tunnel to Pioneer Street,
Make a left turn to Sheridan Street and
Make a right turn in Reliance Street.

Nearby Establishments

1. Hospitals / Medical Centers
Victor R Potenciano Medical Center
Unciano General Hospital
Rizal Medical Center
Mary Immaculate Hospital
Mandaluyong City Medical Center

2. Schools
Lourdes School of Mandaluyong
International Baptist College
University of Asia and the Pacific

3. Churches
St. Francis of Assisi Church
Edsa Shrine

4. Commercial Areas
EDSA Central Market
Shangri-La Plaza Mall
Star Mall
Podium
Robinsons Place Pioneer
Free site visit..... no commitment....

For more info contact:

Jenny Saure

DMCI HOMES SENIOR PROPERTY CONSULTANT

Globe:01953365691

Smart: 09391100240

landline: 02-6664885

See my website: www.pinoydmcihomes.webs.com

God Bless....

wow! Very impressive renderings... Based on the pictures, it would seem you would really be living in a resort hotel! three pools with fountains.. galing! This project will certainly make the Light and Pioneer Woodlands investors think twice.. Sayang, this area is not my usual territory.. i hope yung sa La Verti would have the same resorts-feel also.

I went to the site, and as what i have expected, location is really nice, it is near edsa, near shangri-la and sm light. I saw that they already started digging. may i ask, what are the other projects around here? will there be any obstructions, future developments, at the east view of the south tower?

^^ just approximations and partial obstructions..

avida towers will be across, Twin Oaks Place in Greenfield district, shall block south tower view of ortigas CBD

light residences and pioneer woodlands and highlands will block makati, rockwell and BGC views

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have a nice day!:banana:

May tanong lang ako, pano ung process, like example if i was able to reserve a unit here, and then i wanna transfer it to somebody else within a month or less, may babayaran pa ba? and possible ba if the agent wants to give additional discount bukod dun sa binibigay ng DMCI? like example additional 1% discount? legal ba un? salamat!

Just want to ask the distance of Flair Towers from MRT Station/Edsa. Walking distance po ba and mga ilang minutes aabutin?

walking distance, mga 3 mins asa MRT ka na.

^^ true @mariella, i tried walking na from pioneer highlands to shangra-la even.. short distances lang ito..

kaso mejo nakakatakot pa ngaun ung daanan, kasi madilim, tsaka may paradahan ng jeep?

@Leechtat and Kyoto21E

Thanks for the reply, siguro sa 2014 may improvement na sa streets going to Edsa/MRT and/or Shangri-la.

you can rent commercial area if you are a unit owner, but there is a bidding with the co unit owner.

Hi Leechtat, since you're very familiar with the area, may I ask what's the going rate for 1br rental unit in the area right now? What's your forecast for Flair in 4 years time?

meron pa bang nakakuha ng unit dito?

@Kyoto21E----yes, I reserved a 1br unit, no balcony, atrium level ;)
I was told that most studio and 1br units at atrium levels got sold out on first day.
I was lucky enough to have a broker who acted fast in securing me my unit.
Thanks, Jenny.

May tanong lang ako, pano ung process, like example if i was able to reserve a unit here, and then i wanna transfer it to somebody else within a month or less, may babayaran pa ba? and possible ba if the agent wants to give additional discount bukod dun sa binibigay ng DMCI? like example additional 1% discount? legal ba un? salamat!

Yes you would need to pay a certain fee 5k but still transfer is subject to approval. If it's for relative of first degree that should be okay and no fees will be charged. No agent can give you a discount other than that given by DMCI. If it's of the form of a rebate of his/her commission that is illegal.

meron pa bang nakakuha ng unit dito?

You can find the latest availability at the bottom of the page here
Flair Towers Availability (http://www.dmci.bobonbeachresort.com/flair-towers-dmci-reliance-mandaluyong/)

@brokerods - transfer is subject for approval? what are the chances na hindi ma approved? and are rebates really illegal? why?

@brokerods - transfer is subject for approval? what are the chances na hindi ma approved? and are rebates really illegal? why?

It may not be approved if the transaction was not done in good faith

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really? Paano naging illegal yon e, personal na usapan na yon between the buyer and the agent. Correct me if i am wrong, but this is one personal tactic of some agents just to win over a byuer. Isasacripisyo ng agent ang parte ng kanyang commission (kahit na uncollected pa), like for example, 10K out of a 20K commission.
Babawi na lang yong agent sa dami ng macoclose nyang deal with this personal tactic, which is also beneficial to the buyers.

It is illegal. It's an illegal tactic. Actually if the agent isn't licensed there should be no commission at all. Ito ang sinasabing colorum agents. Yun nga lang, this rule isn't implemented very well so... but if you want try calling customer care and ask if it is allowed or not. :)

ARTICLE III – RULE OF CONDUCT AND PRACTICE

The Practitioners shall be governed by the following rules of conduct and practice.

SECTION 1. RELATION TO THE GOVERNMENT


(a) The Practitioner should secure all the necessary Licenses, permits and authority from the Bureau of Domestic Trade and other government agencies as may be required by law, ordinance or rules and regulations and comply with all the requirements thereof engaging in the same.


(b) He should pay any and all taxes, fees, dues, levies or changes that the government may impose in accordance to law, ordinances, or rules and regulations.


(c) He should help, assist and cooperate with the Bureau of Domestic Trade and all government agencies and instrumentality in the promotion, development and conservation of lands and other natural resources, its improvements and rights and interest therein.


(d) He should not encourage, abet, tolerate or participate in the evasion or illegal reduction in the payment of all taxes, fees, dues, levies or charges that may be imposed by the government.


(e) He should not offer or agree to pay, to split or rebate any commission, fee or valuable consideration, directly or indirectly with any person who is not duly licensed practitioner or to cooperate, assist or endorse any transaction or engagement of his services in violation of any existing law, rule or regulation.


(f) He should indicate the license number of the certificate issued by the Bureau of Domestic Trade in his letterhead, dry seal, signboard, billboard, advertisement of other announcement in relation to the Realty Service Practice.

How much is a 2 bedroom Unit ("korean layout") in the atrium floor?

Ok. sabi mo e. So, its illegal.
But my agent is a bona fide agent of that company. lahat ba ng bona fide agents ay licenced practitioners din?

Some are, but some are not. Only licensed brokers can technically sell and agents can sell through a broker's license at the ratio of 1 broker to 20 agents. Agents should also be licensed as salesmen with PRC to be legit. The good news is, those who would want to become licensed brokers can do so with the coming licensure exam next February. RESA Law has already been implemented and the IRR has been already in effect since July 2010.

There are still several 1 Bedroom units left though those at the atrium floors are getting sold out fast. Atrium levels are every 5 floors starting 1st floor

so, panu na yung mga in-house agents? i suppose they are not working for a brokerage kasi in house nga, unless DMCI, SMDC, AYala, alveo, etc are themselves brokerage also.

In-house agents work under brokers too. In house Broker->Sales Manager->Inhouse Agent. Inhouse have brokers too otherwise they can not sell, but we are working with 1:20. We are working to get them licensed as well hopefully if not this year, early next year. The IRR has just been implemented so it would take some time to finalize all these.

ok. ty

This is the exact pricelist of flair tower effective nov 9,2010

Studio ( inner) Gross area-24sqm 1.96Mn to 2.49mn
1bedroom A Gross area-41sqm 2.33Mn to 3.28Mn
1bedroom B Gross area-29sqm 2.29Mn to 2.43Mn
2bedroom A gross area-48sqm 3.06Mn to3.89Mn
2bedroom B gross area-60sqm 3.24Mn to 3.78Mn
2bedroom D gross area-52sqm 3.47Mn to 4.29Mn
3bedroom gross area-75.5sqm 5.14Mn to 5.72Mn

Ang galing talaga ng DMCI when it comes to giving vital information about the project like price, unit availability, and reminders before the turn over (yes, it is given even on a pre selling stage). Majority of the developers give only the building renderings, room specifications and amenities but not the three things i mentioned. They really lay down the cards before you sign that reservation agreement. Hope SMDC does this.

I agree. The area for each of the rooms in the unit are clearly specified too at naka-break down pati materials. They provide sample CTS and other details. Very upfront. So as an investor, kampante ka with DMCI projects. Goldland Properties (Millenia Tower Ortigas) has similar practice so I'm a happy investor :)

I was about to buy a unit at SMDC Light 2 months after it launched but got turned off with the sales agent coz she gave me wrong info about specifics on what I was going to get. She retracted the info she gave when I asked for a list of deliverables in writing. I think baguhan and not well-trained yung tao. Still think SMDC light is a good project, but they just need to improve their sales team and info dissemination.

I also learned that as investor, it's best to deal with seniors or managers. Mas pro kausap.

Good Day!

Terms of Payment & Discounts for Flair Towers (http://www.flairdmci.com)

20% Down 80% Balance- 3% discount (PROMO until 9 November 2010 or 1st 100 buyers of 2BR and 3BR only)
——————————- - 0% discount (after Promo)

30% Down 70% Balance – 4% discount

40% Down 60% Balance – 5% discount

100% Cash Down Payment – 10% discount

*Association Dues – estimated at Php 39/sqm per month

Note: there are only 39 slots available for the PROMO! avail soon to get the discount! you may visit www.flairdmci.com or Flair Towers (http://www.flairdmci.com) to request for sample computation.

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May you have a nice day ahead!

what will happen if the agent are not license or legit? tapos nakabenta na sya sa buyer at nagbabayad na monthly ang buyer.

Is the 2 Bedroom B layout have sliding doors from the living room to the balcony? or this is just plain window?

^^ if your checks are payable to dmci and you have the invoice from dmci. then you will have no problem..

not legit meaning? not licensed or accredited? - you should get an agent/broker who is both licensed and accredited with the developer.

Is the 2 Bedroom B layout have sliding doors from the living room to the balcony? or this is just plain window?

Good Question. They have sliding doors for the living room korean layout

Cheers!

sana may 3d sample each unit, gagawa kaya ng model unit dito?

sana may 3d sample each unit, gagawa kaya ng model unit dito?

There will be model units but not for all unit types. You would be able to view similar cuts from completed projects though

Good Question. They have sliding doors for the living room korean layout

Cheers!

Thank you... Can you PM me price for this type of unit at Flair? Unit at the highest possible floor with Atrium Garden outsitde the unit.

sana lakihan nila ung bintana, parang dun sa renders, ung mga bintana maliliit na pahaba, sana hanggang floor, tulad nung sa tivoli.

sales are doing well here, parking slots are much affordable than of Light's

Thank you... Can you PM me price for this type of unit at Flair? Unit at the highest possible floor with Atrium Garden outsitde the unit.

Sent you the prices and links for the complete pricelist and building layout.

Cheers!

Just wondering... Where is the entrance of the parking area? Is it basement parking or podium parking?

Just wondering... Where is the entrance of the parking area? Is it basement parking or podium parking?

4 level basement parking. Parking hasn't been released for selling yet but should be around 510k

4 level basement parking. Parking hasn't been released for selling yet but should be around 510k

Thanks for the info :)

Anyone interested for 1BR, 29sqm, facing east? I am selling my reservation. PM me.

Anyone interested for 1BR, 29sqm, facing east? I am selling my reservation. PM me.

Hi Kyoto, is this atrium level? What floor?

sent you PM Magicpips

sent you PM Magicpips

Okay, thanks.

Ang galing talaga ng DMCI when it comes to giving vital information about the project like price, unit availability, and reminders before the turn over (yes, it is given even on a pre selling stage). Majority of the developers give only the building renderings, room specifications and amenities but not the three things i mentioned. They really lay down the cards before you sign that reservation agreement. Hope SMDC does this.

wow! what a sudden change of heart! now you can see the difference? dami pa kulang sa smdc. dinadaan lang nila lagi sa hype. tapos yung mga taong walang alam, if naririnig nila pinupuna mo ang mga kakulangan. iniisip nila sinisiraan mo lang si smdc.

one thing i like about dmci is mabilis silang magtrabaho. kaya madalas early turnover sila. i read in one thread 3-8 months ahead sila sa sinabi nilang turnover date. imagine that?

unlike smdc, kaka-start pa nga lang, they already change the turnover date they said when they were pre-selling their project. its not sure if they're going to move it again and how many times. pero based sa past projects nila, ganoon ang ginagawa nila.

for me, this is the typical bait and switch thing. sasabihin ganito but after you get it, iibahin na. hindi lang turnover date ang binabago pati yung number of floors. i feel maganda malaman ito ng mga tao so that maging aware sila at baguhin ni smdc ang pangit nilang style na ito.

one last thing, i hope hindi sila maunahan ng flair with their light project. if that happens, lalabas silang kahiya-hiya.

Sent you the prices and links for the complete pricelist and building layout.

Cheers!

hi, just joined this community.

can i get the same info, pls? im interested in a 2 bedroom unit preferrably on the atrium level.

thanks

^^ yes. i have included that.

so its:

- flair towers by dmci
- light residences by smdc
- pioneer woodlands by east empire/mw
- avida towers pioneer
- twin oaks by greenfield
- sunshine 100 by chinese investor - siy
- gateway regency by rlc

Why are there so many developments in this area?
I mean, multiple towers pa na puros residential area.
Are there commercial, industrial or business districts being developed around the area for there to be a demand that the supply can meet? Just a bit worried with oversupply of condos in this area, particularly since Avida is building 8 towers and Pioneer Woodlands has a lot of towers too. At least Flair and Light has 2-3 towers lang...

Why are there so many developments in this area?
I mean, multiple towers pa na puros residential area.
Are there commercial, industrial or business districts being developed around the area for there to be a demand that the supply can meet? Just a bit worried with oversupply of condos in this area, particularly since Avida is building 8 towers and Pioneer Woodlands has a lot of towers too. At least Flair and Light has 2-3 towers lang...

I think the price of lots here are a bit lower than in the nearby area particularly Ortigas CBD, Developer tends to acquire bigger property than buy in an CDB area..Pioneer Area use to be a industrial area. take for instance the lot where Pioneer mall and Cybergates now stands, its an old lot of RLC that use to be Litton mills; a textile company of the Gocongwei's but now they develop their property into residential building and BPO..

Yes, In a few more years it will have more buildings..cityland, globe tower, sunshine, pioneer point, RLC residential towers are now all there..:)

Maybe there will be stiff competition here in the future in terms of rentals, but for the end users, they just have to choose best developer that wouold suite their need and purpose.

confirm ko lang, if ever, pwede naman itransfer ang name within 30 days from reservation date dba? ung price nung condo will still be the same when you got the unit, correct? and its also transferrable kahit hindi relative. tama? ano ano bang mga requirements for this? Thanks in advanced!

i never said that SMDC is perfect, flawless. Go and check my other criticism on her to suit your taste. I am not a DIEHARD fanatic of a developer or a project. I may appreciate some and/or criticize some. Diehard fanatic lose their objectivity.
If you believe that ALL (as in ALL) developers are not perfect, then, you are doomed for frustrations. wag mo na kaming idamay sa frustrations and inhibitions mo.
:nuts::nuts::nuts:

:lol::lol::lol:

I think the price of lots here are a bit lower than in the nearby area particularly Ortigas CBD, Developer tends to acquire bigger property than buy in an CDB area..Pioneer Area use to be a industrial area. take for instance the lot where Pioneer mall and Cybergates now stands, its an old lot of RLC that use to be Litton mills; a textile company of the Gocongwei's but now they develop their property into residential building and BPO..

Yes, In a few more years it will have more buildings..cityland, globe tower, sunshine, pioneer point, RLC residential towers are now all there..:)

Maybe there will be stiff competition here in the future in terms of rentals, but for the end users, they just have to choose best developer that wouold suite their need and purpose.

Yeah, I think there will generally be stiffer competition in rentals due to the boom in construction of residential condos. Robinsons Gateway and Light have good selling points as there are commercial and business establishments surrounding the area... Flair has the resort feel, landscape and spacious atrium hallways.

It's the neighboring projects with 5 or more towers that worries me. I hope Avida would include some sort of commercial or office buildings in their project to balance things out. Six to Eight towers are just too much. I have a friend who owns a unit in Avida near Camp Crame and another friend in the Empire East project beside it. They couldn't rent these out easily at a good price. Too much inventory, no direct access to public transport and the building designs are low-cost looking. The only thing that my friend was able to lease out easily is the parking space.

I think overall there will be an oversupply in several years eveyrwhere, not just in the Mandaluyong area, due to:
- Everyone's positioning their project as an investment, claiming you can recover your money via selling or renting later on
- Which means that there are a lot of people now buying properties with this mindset
- The current demand therefore appear to be driven by people who want to ride the real estate bandwagon, rather than buying something for their own use
- Net, the prices are artificially going up given this artificial demand (which I think is sad for those who are really looking for a home they will use)
- What happens then when all these projects are built and majority of the 'investors' want to sell/rent out? You will also be competing with new developments that are being built.

On the rental, this is where I'm a bit confused. Most buyers purchase properties on most likely a home loan, which is about 10%. Net, a 1-bedroom 40sqm unit will probably sell for, say, 3M pesos. At 20 years that's about 27k/month in amortization, plus yearly taxes, condo dues etc. But I doubt you can rent out a 1-bedroom 40sqm property for 30k. (And again, why would they rent if they can buy their own property at almost the same price?). The value equation is even worse if you took in-house finance which usually pegs a whopping 20% or so interest rate (50k/month!). Good luck renting that out.

Seems to be the only way rental can earn you income is
1.) You've bought the property a long time ago and the value has appreciated so much (there's a big gap between your purchase price and current market value).
2.) There's limited supply of condos

I think overall there will be an oversupply in several years eveyrwhere, not just in the Mandaluyong area, due to:
- Everyone's positioning their project as an investment, claiming you can recover your money via selling or renting later on
- Which means that there are a lot of people now buying properties with this mindset
- The current demand therefore appear to be driven by people who want to ride the real estate bandwagon, rather than buying something for their own use
- Net, the prices are artificially going up given this artificial demand (which I think is sad for those who are really looking for a home they will use)
- What happens then when all these projects are built and majority of the 'investors' want to sell/rent out? You will also be competing with new developments that are being built.

On the rental, this is where I'm a bit confused. Most buyers purchase properties on most likely a home loan, which is about 10%. Net, a 1-bedroom 40sqm unit will probably sell for, say, 3M pesos. At 20 years that's about 27k/month in amortization, plus yearly taxes, condo dues etc. But I doubt you can rent out a 1-bedroom 40sqm property for 30k. (And again, why would they rent if they can buy their own property at almost the same price?). The value equation is even worse if you took in-house finance which usually pegs a whopping 20% or so interest rate (50k/month!). Good luck renting that out.

Seems to be the only way rental can earn you income is
1.) You've bought the property a long time ago and the value has appreciated so much (there's a big gap between your purchase price and current market value).
2.) There's limited supply of condos

There goes the answer to your question, IMO. Those who bought condos/apartments 10 or 20 years ago are now enjoying the fruit of their foresight. Ten years down the road, current investors will have their turn. 30k monthly amort may be heavy for now but that will not have the same value as the years progress due to inflation. And don't worry much about the supply, there is actually a big backlog in the housing industry. Not to mention that our population continue to grow at a rapid rate... Further, many consider buying a condo is a kind of forced saving for their retirement. For them, this is a long term investment, or something to leave to their children.

Will someone tell me why IN-HOUSE financing are still surviving? We all know that it is higher than bank financing? (This also includes in-house financing for cars). As a consumer looking for financing, it crazy for me to buy from them knowing too well that they are higher in interest rates than banks. Just asking...

I think in-house financing is for people who can't get bank loans due to lack of documents. This provides developers an opportunity to gain extra income. In the case of condo developments, most banks and PAG-ibig will not grant loans until the CCT is submitted. Banks can give a letter of guarantee for "pre-approved loans" but they won't release the funds yet, unless there's a special arrangement with the developer. It takes about 6 months to a year for government agencies to process the CCT. So during that time, even if you're pre-approved, you'll be forced to go for in-house financing and pay exorbitant interest rates.

According to my broker though, DMCI has a special arrangement with accredited banks wherein they will release the funds to DMCI without the CCT. I hope she's right.

According to my office friend who invest a condo at DMCI project 4 years ago they started first their amortization via developer inhouse financing. It was only during this 2nd quarter they were able to get an external financing via commercial bank when they are approaching their 5 year payment.

Most bank now a days prefer a completed condo project before they provide mortgage financing.

Originally Posted by keyo168 View Post
wow! what a sudden change of heart! now you can see the difference? dami pa kulang sa smdc. dinadaan lang nila lagi sa hype. tapos yung mga taong walang alam, if naririnig nila pinupuna mo ang mga kakulangan. iniisip nila sinisiraan mo lang si smdc.

one thing i like about dmci is mabilis silang magtrabaho. kaya madalas early turnover sila. i read in one thread 3-8 months ahead sila sa sinabi nilang turnover date. imagine that?

unlike smdc, kaka-start pa nga lang, they already change the turnover date they said when they were pre-selling their project. its not sure if they're going to move it again and how many times. pero based sa past projects nila, ganoon ang ginagawa nila.

for me, this is the typical bait and switch thing. sasabihin ganito but after you get it, iibahin na. hindi lang turnover date ang binabago pati yung number of floors. i feel maganda malaman ito ng mga tao so that maging aware sila at baguhin ni smdc ang pangit nilang style na ito.

one last thing, i hope hindi sila maunahan ng flair with their light project. if that happens, lalabas silang kahiya-hiya.


i never said that SMDC is perfect, flawless. Go and check my other criticisms on her to suit your taste. I am not a DIEHARD fanatic of a developer or a project. I may appreciate some and/or criticize some. Diehard fanatics lose their objectivity. You should believe that ALL (as in ALL) developers are not perfect. If not, then, you are doomed for frustrations. wag mo na kaming idamay sa frustrations and inhibitions mo.
:nuts::nuts::nuts:

yeah DMCI usually finished their projects before the target date. It's a good news on the part of the buyer and good points to the developer. And I hope baka maunahan pa nila yung SMDC with their new project Flair Towers (http://www.alabangcondominium.com/mandaluyong-city/flair-towers.htm)

http://www.alabangcondominium.com/images/stories/mandaluyong/flair-towers/flair-towers.jpg





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guess that's something to ask upfront whether you can get bank financing. Tama sila hassle to get all the required docs for a property that's just being built. Didn't know that also, so was fortunate that my developer had a tie-up with a bank. No hassle with the docs. No in-house financing. Usually also most banks will only loan up to 10 years for a condo, but if there's a tie-up they may be willing to give a longer terms (mine offered up to 20 years but just opted for 15).

DMCI Inhouse financing isn't that bad. 1 year inhouse has 0% interest, 2 years isn't that bad too. Interest rate depends on the amount of Down payment and the length of your chosen term

Applicable for flair, la verti and royal palm highrise only
http://www.dmci.bobonbeachresort.com/dmci-images/LVR/Pricing-Scheme.gif

For direct accredited banks for DMCI, even if it's pre-selling you can get LOG as long as you complete the minimum DP. Directly Accredited banks are BDO, BPI, PNB, UCPB, Chinabank and now also HSBC. You would also need a copy of your Contract to Sell. Do take note there are also bank charges that you need to settle. Also "closing fees, transfer fees" should also be settled as well as MRI and fire insurance.

For direct accredited banks for DMCI, even if it's pre-selling you can get LOG as long as you complete the minimum DP. Directly Accredited banks are BDO, BPI, PNB, UCPB, Chinabank and now also HSBC. You would also need a copy of your Contract to Sell. Do take note there are also bank charges that you need to settle. Also "closing fees, transfer fees" should also be settled as well as MRI and fire insurance.

Brokerods, does this mean that Direct accredited banks for DMCI will release LOG and the loan amount to DMCI when the time comes---when the unit is already built and the 40 months Downpayment period is over without the need for CCT? I know DMCI does early turnover but it takes 6 months to a year before the government processes the CCT. Meaning, pag-pre approved ka sa bank and bank issues LOG, you won't have to go through in- house financing?

^^ yes. i have included that.

so its:

- flair towers by dmci
- light residences by smdc
- pioneer woodlands by east empire/mw
- avida towers pioneer
- twin oaks by greenfield
- sunshine 100 by chinese investor - siy
- gateway regency by rlc


Why are there so many developments in this area?
I mean, multiple towers pa na puros residential area.
Are there commercial, industrial or business districts being developed around the area for there to be a demand that the supply can meet? Just a bit worried with oversupply of condos in this area, particularly since Avida is building 8 towers and Pioneer Woodlands has a lot of towers too. At least Flair and Light has 2-3 towers lang...

^^ This area is in between the 2 major CBDs of RP - Ortigas and Ayala Makati. And in the future, BGC. The location is also very transit oriented with 2 walkable MRT stations - shaw and boni.

An ideal place to be in the city imho.

I think overall there will be an oversupply in several years eveyrwhere, not just in the Mandaluyong area, due to:
- Everyone's positioning their project as an investment, claiming you can recover your money via selling or renting later on
- Which means that there are a lot of people now buying properties with this mindset
- The current demand therefore appear to be driven by people who want to ride the real estate bandwagon, rather than buying something for their own use
- Net, the prices are artificially going up given this artificial demand (which I think is sad for those who are really looking for a home they will use)
- What happens then when all these projects are built and majority of the 'investors' want to sell/rent out? You will also be competing with new developments that are being built.

On the rental, this is where I'm a bit confused. Most buyers purchase properties on most likely a home loan, which is about 10%. Net, a 1-bedroom 40sqm unit will probably sell for, say, 3M pesos. At 20 years that's about 27k/month in amortization, plus yearly taxes, condo dues etc. But I doubt you can rent out a 1-bedroom 40sqm property for 30k. (And again, why would they rent if they can buy their own property at almost the same price?). The value equation is even worse if you took in-house finance which usually pegs a whopping 20% or so interest rate (50k/month!). Good luck renting that out.

Seems to be the only way rental can earn you income is
1.) You've bought the property a long time ago and the value has appreciated so much (there's a big gap between your purchase price and current market value).
2.) There's limited supply of condos


Guaranteed ways to earn you money when buying a condo:

1. Buy the condo unit during pre-selling period with cash up front.
2. Rent the condo unit for 5 years after turnover.
3. Sell the condo unit after 5 years.

Rationale

1. You got the condo at its cheapest possible price because of the discounts of paying cash on it. There is no mortgage to pay for so interest didnt eat you up.

2. You got to maximize the profits, no banks to share the rental with.

3. You got to maximize the condo units price appreciation

Brokerods, does this mean that Direct accredited banks for DMCI will release LOG and the loan amount to DMCI when the time comes---when the unit is already built and the 40 months Downpayment period is over without the need for CCT? I know DMCI does early turnover but it takes 6 months to a year before the government processes the CCT. Meaning, pag-pre approved ka sa bank and bank issues LOG, you won't have to go through in- house financing?

The CCT is already ready once the building is complete as well as tax declaration. This is enough to draw down a loan from banks and even pag-ibig. The 6 months to 1 year is transfer of CCT to your name but you have to be fully paid for this to happen.

With direct bank financing you can get LOG even with pre-selling projects which is usually valid 6 months but some banks are trying to work out up to 1 year validity. Renew ka lang ng renew.

With DMCI direct bank financing, you have no need to go through inhouse financing unless you plan to make use of another bank other than those accredited by DMCI.

Thanks for explaining this Brokerods. I'm glad this is the case with DMCI. In my other investment, the only time that the "accredited bank" (BPI) released the loan was after submission of transferred CCT which took 8 months to process by the developer from the government. So we had to undergo in-house financing until funds were released. Interestingly though, I was given a photocopy of our transferred CCT even if loan is not yet fully paid. I guess different developers have different practices regarding bank financing....

so, kakagatin ng client ang mataas na rate ng in-house financing kasi di siya pwede sa banks. tsk,tsk, wawa naman.
Anyway, i got a unit at Light. Siguro naman na meron ng internal agreement ang SMDC and BDO since they have one owner.

Kailangan pa rin pasado ka sa credit investigation check ng BDO at kung hindi ay pwede rin i deny ang condo loan mo ng BDO. Mahalaga na ontime at upto date ang payment mo ng current loans mo at reliable at stable ang monthly income mo. Sigurista ang lahat ng banks

Thanks for explaining this Brokerods. I'm glad this is the case with DMCI. In my other investment, the only time that the "accredited bank" (BPI) released the loan was after submission of transferred CCT which took 8 months to process by the developer from the government. So we had to undergo in-house financing until funds were released. Interestingly though, I was given a photocopy of our transferred CCT even if loan is not yet fully paid. I guess different developers have different practices regarding bank financing....

Sorry my mistake. The title will be transferred to your name but will be held by the bank until paying out the loan

Things to consider I guess
1.) If you have enough cash upfront, wouldn't other instruments potentially offer a bigger return? Say you have 3M, putting that at a simple TD earns you 150k/year, at Bond Funds you can get 300k/year, if you like some risk and put this in Equity Funds that will earn you close to 500k/year. You stay liquid pa.
2.) and 3.) Again, the things to watch out here for is possible over-supply. With everyone buying condos as an investment, wouldn't there be an excess of sellers once all of these properties are built? With all perks and promos to buy your own unit, you also have the risk of people who cannot really maintain payments and would be selling at huge discounts later on. Might be good to check against what's happening in Eastwood. Are the rental rates still high? Or have they gone down due to lots of properties offered?

I'm sure there's money to be made in real estate if you play your cards right, but I'm just worried a bubble might be happening.

Things to consider I guess
1.) If you have enough cash upfront, wouldn't other instruments potentially offer a bigger return? Say you have 3M, putting that at a simple TD earns you 150k/year, at Bond Funds you can get 300k/year, if you like some risk and put this in Equity Funds that will earn you close to 500k/year. You stay liquid pa.
2.) and 3.) Again, the things to watch out here for is possible over-supply. With everyone buying condos as an investment, wouldn't there be an excess of sellers once all of these properties are built? With all perks and promos to buy your own unit, you also have the risk of people who cannot really maintain payments and would be selling at huge discounts later on. Might be good to check against what's happening in Eastwood. Are the rental rates still high? Or have they gone down due to lots of properties offered?

I'm sure there's money to be made in real estate if you play your cards right, but I'm just worried a bubble might be happening.

this is really making me think...what if there is indeed an oversupply by say 2015? or later?

On the otherhand, most of the unit owners are really OFWs, and frankly i work for a reputable company, and only a very few (counting with my fingers in one hand) live in a condo or are condo owners.

Truth is, if the economy goes well, the "glut" will be real and the demand will be higher as locales can afford to get their own and we will see a second bigger wave of real estate boom?

for now, its the OFWs purchasing power creating the demand.

well, hope things turn out differently. I think it will be ok if a lot of the buyers intend to use their property. If majority are there to make a profit, then we could see a bubble. Di ba that's what happend in Dubai? People were actually lining up when there's a new property being sold, as the appreciation was really high. Lots of people made a profit at the early stages. Then the prices just went up so high that the real estate market just collapsed.

I guess that's why we have a pretty high Capital Gains Tax (20% ba of TOTAL VALUE? Not the actual gain) to prevent speculation.

Anyway, let's hope for the best.

Taken today from Pioneer Highlands Tower 1

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs997.snc4/77041_464619508585_624443585_5491323_2435197_n.jpg

Thanks for the photo :)

well, hope things turn out differently. I think it will be ok if a lot of the buyers intend to use their property. If majority are there to make a profit, then we could see a bubble. Di ba that's what happend in Dubai? People were actually lining up when there's a new property being sold, as the appreciation was really high. Lots of people made a profit at the early stages. Then the prices just went up so high that the real estate market just collapsed.

I guess that's why we have a pretty high Capital Gains Tax (20% ba of TOTAL VALUE? Not the actual gain) to prevent speculation.

Anyway, let's hope for the best.

I think Capital Gains Tax is 6% if you are going to sell and transfer title of ownership.... Not so sure though. Parang 20% is way too steep. Anyway, hope Economy strengthens and improves for all our sake :)

A big chunk of the demand right now in the real estate market are due to end users thus making our situation unique. Asset bubbles are usually formed by unusual high rate of appreciation which is not yet systematic in the entire spectrum of the real estate market. The property investor market here is not yet large enough that they are not able to command yet a huge supply of the condo units that comes online every year. And even though interest rates here are it's historical low, it is still high compared to other countries (compare US 30 yr mortgage of 4.5-5.5% to our 9.5%-12% for PH 30 yr mortgage). Combine that with our banks strict requirement of 20%-30% equity before they make a loan of the remaining balance, asset appreciation would be healthy for the next few years or so.

Of course, as a value investor, I don't count appreciation with my numbers. I only count income as my primary basis in deciding an investment. Capital appreciation comes as a bonus. Let us just say, there are still condos and developers within the Metro that fits my criteria for value investing in real estate. DMCI for me is one of those developers. Not eye popping returns, but still decent enough to make a decent ROI compared to putting your money in a bank with it's paltry interest.



well, hope things turn out differently. I think it will be ok if a lot of the buyers intend to use their property. If majority are there to make a profit, then we could see a bubble. Di ba that's what happend in Dubai? People were actually lining up when there's a new property being sold, as the appreciation was really high. Lots of people made a profit at the early stages. Then the prices just went up so high that the real estate market just collapsed.

I guess that's why we have a pretty high Capital Gains Tax (20% ba of TOTAL VALUE? Not the actual gain) to prevent speculation.

Anyway, let's hope for the best.

I think Capital Gains Tax is 6% if you are going to sell and transfer title of ownership.... Not so sure though. Parang 20% is way too steep. Anyway, hope Economy strengthens and improves for all our sake :)

Capital Gains Tax is 6% + Documentary Tax of 1.5% = Total is 7.5% of the selling price. The capital gains tax can even be exempted if you use the proceed of the sale to buy a more expensive house or condo within 18 months of the sale of the first property sold.

DivineFist, CMG, thanks for the perspective.

Since you have the knowledge :), let me ask something else. A bit OT, but I heard if your property is conjugal, and one of the partner dies, then the surviving spouse still has to pay an estate tax equal to half the property value?? Seems kinda stiff considering you just lost your spouse and the gov't will still get something from you ...

well, hope things turn out differently. I think it will be ok if a lot of the buyers intend to use their property. If majority are there to make a profit, then we could see a bubble. Di ba that's what happend in Dubai? People were actually lining up when there's a new property being sold, as the appreciation was really high. Lots of people made a profit at the early stages. Then the prices just went up so high that the real estate market just collapsed.

I guess that's why we have a pretty high Capital Gains Tax (20% ba of TOTAL VALUE? Not the actual gain) to prevent speculation.

Anyway, let's hope for the best.

I think the number of people buying condos in the Philippines with the intent of flipping it upon taking possession is almost non-existent. Paying capital gains tax of 6% on actual sale prize whether the seller makes a profit or not is a deterrent in using real estate as an investment vehicle. There are a few with the intention of renting it out for a couple of years or so waiting for an appreciation before selling it, but these numbers are very few and negligible to affect the market, as there are better alternatives out there for a return on investment. Majority of buyers intend to use it or reside in it. There are a growing number of Filipino expats that lived in the west for some 15-40 years and nearing retirement age and are now considering living out their retirement years in the Philippines or at least as a vacation or second home. These expat demographics is growing due to the large influx of Filipino immigrants that left the country during the Marcos martial law years and are now considering returning home due to a combination of right factors. I count myself in this category and noticed it too among fellow expats. A lot of Filipino expat friends of mine have purchased condos in Metro Manila and think this numbers will grow. Already, it is not uncommon to see new high end condo buildings in GBC and Makati that are half empty because its owners are abroad.

Capital Gains Tax is 6% + Documentary Tax of 1.5% = Total is 7.5% of the selling price. The capital gains tax can even be exempted if you use the proceed of the sale to buy a more expensive house or condo within 18 months of the sale of the first property sold.

when does one pays the capital gains tax? i am thinking that if i sell my unit for instance, i would have to pay the capital gains tax along with the other government documentary fees, i.e., during transfer of title/property. if this is correct, then how would you be able to claim that you'll use the money to buy a more expensive unit and be exempted if you've already cashed out (on the capital gains tax)?

when does one pays the capital gains tax? i am thinking that if i sell my unit for instance, i would have to pay the capital gains tax along with the other government documentary fees, i.e., during transfer of title/property. if this is correct, then how would you be able to claim that you'll use the money to buy a more expensive unit and be exempted if you've already cashed out (on the capital gains tax)?

Your CPA or lawyer can give you a more detailed information on were you can claim the exemption. It will be part on the filing of your income tax return. Your taxes wouldnt be the usual 1 page income tax return from the BIR. There will be additional forms needed to establish the paperwork for the exemption. Another limitation for the exemption is you can only claim it every 10 years. So you cant use it when you frequently trade up or use it on a property flip.

DivineFist, CMG, thanks for the perspective.

Since you have the knowledge :), let me ask something else. A bit OT, but I heard if your property is conjugal, and one of the partner dies, then the surviving spouse still has to pay an estate tax equal to half the property value?? Seems kinda stiff considering you just lost your spouse and the gov't will still get something from you ...

Better ask the lawyers about that .... technicalities about estate planning is way way out of my league. Architecture ang tinapos ko pre, hindi law eh pasencya na. Saka wala pang nagpamana sa akin eh.

DivineFist, CMG, thanks for the perspective.

Since you have the knowledge :), let me ask something else. A bit OT, but I heard if your property is conjugal, and one of the partner dies, then the surviving spouse still has to pay an estate tax equal to half the property value?? Seems kinda stiff considering you just lost your spouse and the gov't will still get something from you ...

They have standard deductions to apply to the estate value to reduce the amount of the tax. They have 1M standard deduction, they also have another 1M deduction (max) if the property is your permanent residence, hospital, burial espenses etc. Some end up not paying anything at all. That is the way to do it actually, it stems from the passing up of ownership to the heirs that made you pay the estate tax

baket ba bawat galaw, meron tax? parang may tax na from salary, tax sa food, tax sa lahat.

baket ba bawat galaw, meron tax? parang may tax na from salary, tax sa food, tax sa lahat.

Ah, a well-used adage holds that there are two certainties in life - death and taxes. Neither are pleasant, with some people going to great lengths to evade, elude and escape them, largely unsuccessfully in the one and wholly unsuccessfully in the other. Unfortunately, they are also not mutually exclusive, as the one is always tainting the other. I'm referring to inheritance tax, estate tax, or death duties, as it's sometimes called.

natuloy ba ang price increase dito?

Nice discussions on condos as investment here and how to earn from them. In general, if you don't have the cash to pay up front and will have to rely on a loan (interest cost) to buy your condo, it would be best to invest in something else. The interest on your loan might just eat up any profit you hope to make.

I do agree that one should not expect capital appreciation in the present condo market, at least not in the short term. The present boom in construction won't favor it.

Lastly, I do believe that the great majority of condo buyers nowadays are end users (OFWs play a big role here) as reflected in the shift to a greater proportion of 2 and 3 bedroom (which families favor) units being sold compared to 1br and studio units which investors tend to favor. That many new developments now tend to have a greater proportion of 2br and 3rd units in their mix reflect this trend. We used to have a more even proportion between the different sizes. Others hedge their bets by adopting a modular approach, allowing combinations of units.

hows the sales going here?

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^ Green building, I like!

SCUD - are you saying na okay bumili dito? :)

I would say yes. DMCI first used their Lumiventt in Tivoli and it worked.

I would also rate this a "buy" mainly because the location is good and it is DMCI who will be doing the construction. There are certain advantages to having the developer also doing the construction not the least of which will be an expected on-time or early completion of the project. Delaying construction or drawing out construction in this case would only increase labor and potentially, material costs and so the construction company / developer has interests aligned with its buyers. DMCI's track record in turnover reflects this. I'm not a DMCI buyer and I don't consider myself biased. I'd buy here except that I've already rolled the dice in this area and I'm satisfied with my decision.

In setups where the developer awards the project to a construction company, there is an advantage to delaying the awarding of the project in anticipation of lower bids from contractors and various phases (e.g. excavation, construction, finishing) of the project can be individually bid out and subcontracted to bring costs even lower, at the expense of speed of completion. Contractors who win the award would also subcontract individual aspects of the project and these companies may or may not integrate well with others on the construction team. With DMCI, you've already got the team set up including the necessary heavy equipment.

Unit Layout (http://flairdmci.com/units/) from www.flairdmci.com

http://dmcisales.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/flair-towers-dmci-reliance-2-bedroom-b.jpg (http://flairdmci.com/units/)
picture taken from www.flairdmci.com

other facts/details/informations about the Flair Towers (http://www.flairdmci.com) are available in www.flairdmci.com
have a nice day!:banana:

Just curious... For 2 br - b (middle unit), where's the provision for aircon for bedroom 2? That bedroom is beside the hallway, does this mean that the aircon will protrude sa hallway area, if ever?

you might want to consider Light residences of SMDC. Flair of DCMI is good. But Light is better. BTw, im not a agent of SMDC. Im just a proud owner of a unit in Light.

Heehee... You might want to consider becoming an agent of SMDC since you're bilib na bilib with their projects enough to make that claim in their competitor's thread :lol: Seriously, SMDC could use better sales people. Peace :)

you might want to consider Light residences of SMDC. Flair of DCMI is good. But Light is better. BTw, im not a agent of SMDC. Im just a proud owner of a unit in Light.

:bash::bash::bash::bash::bash:

Just curious... For 2 br - b (middle unit), where's the provision for aircon for bedroom 2? That bedroom is beside the hallway, does this mean that the aircon will protrude sa hallway area, if ever?

There is no provision for window type aircon for the second bedroom. Use split type

you might want to consider Light residences of SMDC. Flair of DCMI is good. But Light is better. BTw, im not a agent of SMDC. Im just a proud owner of a unit in Light.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. Basically when getting a condo, weigh which would best fulfill your needs (location, price, size, security, etc.)

http://www.dmci.bobonbeachresort.com/dmci-images/FLT/Flair%20vs%20Light.jpg

flair wins. the parking price killed it for Light.

Feedback please:

Anyone here has actually lived in a high rise condo building built by DMCI using Lumiventte airflow design similar to Flair Towers? Did it really reduce the use of an air-conditioner? If the outdoor temperature is in the mid-twenties, were you able to make do without the use of air-conditioner?

There is no provision for window type aircon for the second bedroom. Use split type

Hmmm... If you use split type, where will you put the condenser? Does that mean kailangan mong padaanin at magbutas ng holes for the tubo to go all the way to the balcony area?

@magicpips:
Hmmm... If you use split type, where will you put the condenser? Does that mean kailangan mong padaanin at magbutas ng holes for the tubo to go all the way to the balcony area?

Kung problema ung pressure tube galing ng condenser .. lagyan mo na lang kaya ng blower sa pagitan ng bedroom at livingroom para ibuga niya ung lamig sa living room at lagyan mo na lang ng louvered window ung lower portion ng pintuan para sa return air.
Suggestion lang naman. Siempre consider mo ung volume ng bedroom sa computation mo ng laki ng AC mo in terms of HP.

@lighter

100% agree future neighbor!! (sa LIGHT):cheers::banana::cheers:

As a client, if i say that Light is better, it is because it satisfies my needs and wants. i buy products to satisfy myself and not to satisfy others.

Glad you are happy with your investment with Light. Hope you'll be happy when it's turnover time coz that's when the real test happens and that's when you can really say that you are satisfied :)

As for me, I did compare Light and Flair, and I decided to go with Flair for the ff reasons:
1. Unit Layout of Flair for 1br is better.
- Di ko type ang 1br na rectangular na parang studio na linagyan lang ng harang at pinto sa gitna para masabing 1br siya.
2. Atrium and bigger hallways.
- Pagmasyadong makitid ang hallway, mukhang pang-mass housing.
3. Open-spaces, landscaping and amenities
- Parang resort ang Flair... Aside from pools, I like the courts and skylounges.
4. Developer and Salespeople
- Based on my experience dealing with both, mas upfront, knowledgeable and credible ang DMCI probably because mas matagal na in residential developments.
5. Target Market and Image
- I want to lease my unit to starter families or retirees. Light is more for commuting workers.

So as a client, Flair suits my needs and wants better than Light. Objectively speaking, both have good features, but I wouldn't go as far as claiming one is better than the other in the competitor's thread. Hahaha :lol:

@magicpips:


Kung problema ung pressure tube galing ng condenser .. lagyan mo na lang kaya ng blower sa pagitan ng bedroom at livingroom para ibuga niya ung lamig sa living room at lagyan mo na lang ng louvered window ung lower portion ng pintuan para sa return air.
Suggestion lang naman. Siempre consider mo ung volume ng bedroom sa computation mo ng laki ng AC mo in terms of HP.

@lighter

100% agree future neighbor!! (sa LIGHT):cheers::banana::cheers:

Thanks, I actually bought a 1br... I just got concerned that I might get affected if they allow aircon bodies or condensers to protude in the hallways which is not nice. Hindi naman pala, so safe and maganda pa rin ang hallways. Thanks for your suggestion. I'm sure it'll help people who bought that type of layout. :)

DivineFist, CMG, thanks for the perspective.

Since you have the knowledge :), let me ask something else. A bit OT, but I heard if your property is conjugal, and one of the partner dies, then the surviving spouse still has to pay an estate tax equal to half the property value?? Seems kinda stiff considering you just lost your spouse and the gov't will still get something from you ...

well I don't know anything about it. But it does make sense, you still own half the property anyway. Anything you own has some sort of tax attached to it. I look at it that way.

if you are happy with Flair because it fits your needs and wants, then by all means get a unit. Flair is a good project. Good luck!!

Good luck to you too. Hope both developers will deliver great projects and make investors happy :)

i never said that SMDC is perfect, flawless. Go and check my other criticism on her to suit your taste. I am not a DIEHARD fanatic of a developer or a project. I may appreciate some and/or criticize some. Diehard fanatic lose their objectivity. If you believe that ALL (as in ALL) developers are not perfect, then, you are doomed for frustrations. wag mo na kaming idamay sa frustrations and inhibitions mo.
:nuts::nuts::nuts:

you might want to consider Light residences of SMDC. Flair of DCMI is good. But Light is better. BTw, im not a agent of SMDC. Im just a proud owner of a unit in Light.

:nuts::nuts::nuts: :lol::lol::lol::lol:

@magicpips

pag pasensyahan mo na yan. parang bata yan e. pag hindi pinapansin dito sa thread nagdaramdam. pag may nagsabi mas maganda yung iba kaysa sa kanya, hindi yan nakakatulog.

:nuts::nuts::nuts: :lol::lol::lol::lol:

@magicpips

pag pasensyahan mo na yan. parang bata yan e. pag hindi pinapansin dito sa thread nagdaramdam. pag may nagsabi mas maganda yung iba kaysa sa kanya, hindi yan nakakatulog.

:lol::lol::lol: Inisip ko na lang, human nature---Some property owners really want to believe that the condo they bought into is better than the rest. Heehee :lol::lol::lol:

unless you bought from each developer (1 DMCI and 1 LIGHT) --- that's when you can objectively compare. Your "Light" experience is real while your "FLAIR" one is make believe. kidding.

Pero eto pag nanalo ako sa lotto, Ill get from SMDC, DMCI, CENTURY and KUOK and AYALA (all lines) and GW. Then post ko dito ang objectively ang experience ko down to the nitty gritty. hehehe.

Another good project of DMCI Homes and good location too


www.jedidiahrentals.com

pag nanalo ako Lotto, ill save GA Sky Suites and SLP. They are really good projects yet managed by bad managers.

baka nga kanal lang di mo pa magawa... :bash::bash:

Hi tanong ko lang - what if nasa 21st month pay na ako ng downpayment, tapos nag price increase na ung unit na nakuha ko - and i wanna sell it - how much ung bayad? pano ung process? pwede ba patransfer ko na alng ung name/ownership? another contract to sell ba un? Thanks sa sasagot.

With the young modern family in mind, DMCI Homes is providing an option to the harried lifestyle of cosmopolitan dwellers. As the country’s premier triple-A builder-developer that brings serviced, themed communities within reach of urban families, DMCI Homes is once again introducing an innovative property development that is set to change the standards of in-city living.

Flair Towers is a two-tower high-rise residential condominium development located on Reliance corner Pines Streets at the heart of Mandaluyong City. Nicknamed the “Tiger City of the Philippines” and located in the heart of Metro Manila, Mandaluyong City is an ideal location for businesses and residential developments alike. It is bordered on the west by the country’s capital, Manila, to the north by San Juan City, to the east by Quezon City and Pasig City, and to the south by Makati City. Being between the two biggest CBDs in the metropolis — Makati and Ortigas — Mandaluyong is the most ideal melting pot for businessmen and corporate individuals alike.
Active lifestyle kiddie: The active play area will feature a full-size basketball court, jogging trails, a kiddy playground and several cabanas.

Situated atop 1.4 hectares of prime property, approximately 75 percent of land area is to be allotted for amenities. This premium advantage presents another first for any DMCI Homes development: Flair Towers ’ tropical resort design, which offers two activity zones: the active play and the pool zone. The active play area will feature a full-size basketball court, jogging trails, a kiddy playground and several cabanas to cater to the active lifestyle of the typical city dweller. The pool zone, on the other hand, will feature a lounge pool, lap pool and kiddy pool, to allow residents and their families to get together and relax.

To complete the resort living experience and, true to their commitment of providing young urban families a natural home setting amid the bustling metro, DMCI Homes presents another pioneering concept in high-rise living: aptly named the Lumiventt advantage, this architectural building design offers condo dwellers a unique glimpse of suburban living right within the city.
Push and pools: The pool zone will feature a lounge pool, lap pool and kiddie pool, to allow residents and their families to get together and relax.

A combination of several building design features that aims to maximize the natural benefits of “light” (lumen) and air (ventus), Lumiventt design technology allows light to enter and fresh air to freely circulate among common areas and even in the residents’ individual units. Employing single-loaded corridors, three-story-high sky patios at the front and back of each building, breezeways at the end of each floor and central atriums every five floors, this design technology ultimately allows the high-rise buildings to “breathe” and spares the residents from the restrictive effects of living in concrete surroundings.

Aside from the building design, the sky patios and central atriums are dotted with abundant landscaping and water features to provide not only fresh air but also aesthetic relief.

Set to be launched by DMCI Homes within the last quarter of this year, Flair Towers is an attractive property for the discerning homebuyer, allowing them to live the resort life in their own private urban retreat right in the heart of the Mandaluyong CBD.

For more information, call DMCI Homes at 502-8116 or visit www.dmci-homes.com.ph

3% Discount Promo extended up to December 15, 2010. Applicable only to 2 bedroom and 3 bedroom units

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Amoy chocolate dito promise!

Hi tanong ko lang - what if nasa 21st month pay na ako ng downpayment, tapos nag price increase na ung unit na nakuha ko - and i wanna sell it - how much ung bayad? pano ung process? pwede ba patransfer ko na alng ung name/ownership? another contract to sell ba un? Thanks sa sasagot.

Pa name transfer mo nalang. That will cost you 5k for the process. You can do it while hindi pa nap=prepare yung deed of sale and condominium certificate of title.

For price. depende sa negotitions nyo nga buyer. but your initial asking price should be based sa current pricelist. mag bracket ka nalang para you get a good deal.

Amoy chocolate dito promise!

This is true. Sarap ng simoy ng hangin dito.
Matamis! From time to time, you'll get a whiff of cocoa scent from ricoa.

hi everybody, im new here but ive been lurking na for sometime here in sky. im planning to buy a unit in flair towers. this will be my first time to buy a condo so pls bear with me kung medyo matanong ako. first question: my idea po b kau kung magkano RPT ng 48sqm n unit, pati n din po ung RPT ng common areas, 2nd: anong floor po b magandang kumuha at bakit, 3rd: facing san po magandang kumuha sa south tower ng flair, 4th: anong floors po ung may open garden (atrium), 5th: maganda po bang kumuha sa floor na my atrium, 6th: un po kayang rooms nya tulaD ng sa tivoli n malalaki ung mga windows nya? thanks po.

http://multiply.com/mu/aeneasjulian/image/1/photos/10/500x500/43/Flair-Building-2.jpg?et=ikmes2CXufvtyaZkXNgQpg&nmid=340175356

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DMCI
- mas maganda floor layout
- masasabi mo talagang 1BR ang binili mo samantalang sa LIGHT, hinarangan lang 1BR NA DAW!!! :banana::banana:
- mas maluwag ang bawat floor
- mas maganda ang track record


kaya TANGA lang talaga ang magsasabing the BEST ang light at mas maganda sa FLAIR :lol::lol::lol:

so, tanga din pala ang nagsasabi na mas maganda ang Flair. hahahahha. confused mind. lumabas din sa bibig mo. :nuts::nuts::nuts:

@black24mamba

huwag mo ng patulan yan. matagal ng may problem sa reading comprehension yan. hindi niya naiintindihan mga binabasa niyan. easy lang sa patama kasi pikon yan. mamaya baka umiyak.

keyo

i thought kaw yong taong humaharap sa issues and not on name calling. you cant even rebuke my statements/facts i mentioned when Mydisctrict compared Light from Flair. (he even twisted a detail/feature in favor of Flair).

you know that well huh? ok. i'll grant you you're wish. let's talk about light and flair head on. basta walang pikunan ha.

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relax ka lang black24mamba.

Light has 4 swimming pools (at hindi three gaya ng nasa itaas)
Light is has almost two hectares in area.
Light has 3 cinemas!!!!! (san ka nakakita ng condo na may sinehan sa ibaba).
Light has supermarket and other commercial areas. Talk of convenience.
Light IS (not even near) CONNECTED to MRT boni. Talk of convenience, ease, safety and economy in travelling.

Im just stating facts. Good, better, best? its not mine to judge for the buyer. The judgement should be left to the buyer according to his needs and wants.

hmmm... the way i see it, 5 yung swimming pool sa picture. hindi "three". :bash::bash::bash:

another thing, why not mention the fact na binawasan ni smdc yung mga deliverables niya para makagawa ng sinehan? before yung 5 swimming pools pagaari ng mga HOA, then binawasan nila ng isa para palitan ng sinehan. ang tanong kanino ngayon ang sinehan? sa HOA pa rin ba o kay smdc? dati amenities yun para ma-enjoy ng mga owners ng libre, now pinalitan ng sinehan na hindi na sila ang may-ari, babayaran pa nila. para mong sinabi, wow! ninakawan kami ni smdc! naisahan kami ni smdc! yehey! they're doing a good job!!!

isa pa, you said 2 hectares ang light, ilang space ang open area? if you look at flair, mas malaki ang open spaces niya. aside from that, if you consider the rooftop is still devoted to owners, it like 100% na ang devoted space for owners. not like light which ninanakawan na kayo, still hindi pa ninyo alam. dinadala kayo sa salestalk. isipin mo, anong klase bang developer ang naglabas ng rendering at binenta yung condo base sa rendering tapos babaguhin later on? is that what you call a credible developer?

tapos now papalabasin nila its in their buyers favor ang changes? the truth is binawasan ni smdc yung ownership ng mga buyer sa condo at makakapaggenerate pa sila ng income out of that. ha ha ha. they pulled a nice one on you guys! hindi na sila nakuntento sa pagdagdag ng floors sa condo, ninakawan pa kayo ng amenities. :lol: and you guys are raving about it! galing talaga ni smdc! imagine, nagawa nila nakawan kayo tapos masaya pa kayo? tapos pinagtatanggol pa ninyo to death yun? bravo!

yan ha. sinabi ko na magaling si smdc ha. pinuri ko na si smdc para maging masaya ka na para walang away.

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I can't help but compare these two, Flair's amenities (b'ball court, pools) are on ground level and the structures are not shared with any other establishment kaya alam mong pag-aari ng homeowners ang lote thru their condominium corporation.

also another thing, what do you think will be the outcome of that revisions? hindi ba more delays! kaninong disadvantage do you think it will be? i know you know, don't you? hindi ninyo mapasok yung housing loan sa gusto ninyong bank di ba kung hindi pa turnover? so sa kanila pa rin ang bagsak ninyo. sino ang kumita ulit?

that's what i've been telling you guys at the light thread from the beginning. along the way, magiisip pa rin si smdc what they can get most out of their dealing with you kahit na tapos na ang deal ninyo. that's the kind of developer smdc is.

isa pa, do you know why die-hard smdc hates me so much? it's because they cannot rebut nor deny the fact that what i'm saying is the truth. and now you're challenging me that i cant even rebuke your statements/facts you mentioned when (Mydisctrict) compared Light from Flair? let's get it on!

btw, sorry, medyo slow ako. what do you mean by "Mydisctrict"?

so, tanga din pala ang nagsasabi na mas maganda ang Flair. hahahahha. confused mind. lumabas din sa bibig mo. :nuts::nuts::nuts:

HUH!? ano daw!? :lol::lol::lol:

anyway, napansin ko lang d2 sa forum.... pag sumigaw ka ng TANGA ... MAY LUMILINGON!!!! :banana::banana::banana::banana:

relax ka lang black24mamba.

Light has 4 swimming pools (at hindi three gaya ng nasa itaas)
Light is has almost two hectares in area.
Light has 3 cinemas!!!!! (san ka nakakita ng condo na may sinehan sa ibaba).
Light has supermarket and other commercial areas. Talk of convenience.
Light IS (not even near) CONNECTED to MRT boni. Talk of convenience, ease, safety and economy in travelling.

Im just stating facts. Good, better, best? its not mine to judge for the buyer. The judgement should be left to the buyer according to his needs and wants.

excuse lang po...

Light has 4 swimming pools (at hindi three gaya ng nasa itaas)
lalangoy ka ba sa lahat ng POOL? :lol:

Light is has almost two hectares in area.
ganyan kalaki ba ang UNIT mo?

Light has 3 cinemas!!!!! (san ka nakakita ng condo na may sinehan sa ibaba).
and your point is? kayo lang ang nakakapanood ng sine?

Light has supermarket and other commercial areas. Talk of convenience.
uuhhhmmmmm so what? di naman kasi ako TANGA, ika nga ni black, para makalimutan ko mga dapat bilhin.

Light IS (not even near) CONNECTED to MRT boni. Talk of convenience, ease, safety and economy in travelling.
MRT? naaahhh, never naman ako nag MRT ...


anyway, ano ba nabili mong unit sa light? di ba aparador lang naman? kaya tama lang sa LIGHT ka, kase wala kang SPACE para mag stock!! ... ayos din para sayo na may sinehan, kasi kahit TV di kasya sa UNIT MO...

PEACE :banana::banana:

HUH!? ano daw!? :lol::lol::lol:

anyway, napansin ko lang d2 sa forum.... pag sumigaw ka ng TANGA ... MAY LUMILINGON!!!! :banana::banana::banana::banana:

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

oo nga naman!!!

bakit ba puro n lang "convenience"

bakit di pagusapan ung pagtira mo sa unit mo? maluwag ba? ginahawa kaya pag uwi? feeling nasa bahay ba? or feeling nasa aparador? ....

its ok. they have one of the lowest (if not the lowest) interest rates among the banks. Yung lang naman ang hinahanap natin sa home loan di ba. aside from low interest rates, di pa hassle and papers kasi BDO and SMDC are sister companies. They are number 1 for nothing. Unless you accuse the million depositors and investors of BDO and SMDC as bobo, then so be it.

delay of turnover can mean lost income for owner's intending to rent out their unit or lost money even if you'll be living in it kasi continuous pa rin yung bayad mo sa rent sa isa na dapat hindi na di ba? so paano yun?

another thing, i read sa mga thread ng ssc, maraming banks ang nagooffer ng mas mababang interest than bdo. paano yun? what's more, paano kung hindi pumasa sa bdo ang loan? saan ngayon pupunta ang mga investors? in-house financing na lang? dahil kagustuhan ni smdc kumita pa ng malaki kahit na nabenta na nila sa ilang investors yung property, na nagkakaganoong predicament ang ibang investors. yan ba ang pinagmamalaki mong developer?

also my advise to you, why not ask your agent why did smdc suddenly change the number of swimming pools? isn't it because they have to make provision for building the cinema? if not, ask them bakit nila binawasan yung swimming pool then? tignan mo kung anong dahilan ang mabibigay nila sa iyo.

why did you think they change the facade? isn't it because it's more advantageous to them if it's just a plain facade so that they can rent out the space for billboards to make more money?

ok lang sana yung mga ganoong move kasi it makes good business sense. pero changing it after people bought it is not what you call decent. it's like they sold you a car at the agreed price, but when the time comes to drive it, may logo pala ng smdc yun pinto ng car mo na wala naman yun sa usapan ninyo. you can argue that it does not change or decrease the functionality of your car. but the fact is, it's your car already. and you bought it at a "fare price" given to you by them. why do they have to attach a logo of their company? i just gave you an analogy. baka balikan mo ako about dito.

what i am saying is, why do they have to benefit from it given you paid a fare price for it? what's worse is that they will make profit from taking what what already sold to you.

i know you will not argue with me in saying:
1.) they sold you a property from the material "they produced" that was presented to you.
2.) and "they gave you the price" they also computed so meaning hindi na sila lugi doon.
3.) "they gave you the turnover date" which any good developer should have calculated some sort of delays and provide allowance to it.

lahat yun galing sa kanila di ba? it's not like you forced them nor even demanded it from them. pero later on along the way, they will change all of these things na sa kanila naman galing, in their favor? now tell me, do you still want to continue this argument which project/developer is better?

@black24mamba

huwag mo ng patulan yan. matagal ng may problem sa reading comprehension yan. hindi niya naiintindihan mga binabasa niyan. easy lang sa patama kasi pikon yan. mamaya baka umiyak.

haha tama ka jan! :banana::banana:

@black24mamba

huwag mo ng patulan yan. matagal ng may problem sa reading comprehension yan. hindi niya naiintindihan mga binabasa niyan. easy lang sa patama kasi pikon yan. mamaya baka umiyak.

keyo

i thought kaw yong taong humaharap sa issues and not on name calling. you cant even rebuke my statements/facts i mentioned when Mydisctrict compared Light from Flair. (he even twisted a detail/feature in favor of Flair).

do you really understand what you're reading? when did i call you names? do you understand what name calling is? just go back to kindergarden where you belong so that you can learn more.

wowowee!!!! this is exciting!!!! tatlong itlog na ang umaaway sa akin: keyo168, baby jana, black24mamba. the best cheering squad against smdc projects!!!

that's what you call name calling, you dumba55! you're the one whose doing it!

ito lang ang masasabi ko:

-SMDC is not a perfect company/developer. who is, anyway?
-despite that, i am happy to have bought a unit at Light. and no one has the right to contest that. its my money!
- if you bought a unit at Flair (after assessing your needs and wants), congratulations!!! (may unit kaya ang tatlong itlong dito? I doubt, they are just rah rah rah boys ad girl!! hahahha

what did you say earlier? let me refresh your mind, you challenge me by saying "you cant even rebuke my statements/facts i mentioned when Mydisctrict compared Light from Flair." and when i did, you'd say "no one has the right to contest that. its my money."? and starts calling me names? ha ha ha!

why don't you grow up a little? also please ask your mom to interpret to you what you read in the internet so that you won't look 5tupid to the ones reading your remarks. you dumba55! :bash::bash::bash:

wala na kasing masabi kaya ganun...:lol::lol::lol:

Congrats sa aparador mo, kung talagang meron.. :lol::lol::lol:

YUP TATLONG ITLOG laban sa ITLOG NA BUGOK!! :banana::banana::banana:

Announcement:

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Thank you!

ay naku wag nyo n lang syang pansinin. he's trying to convince himself n mas ok ung nabili nya para di sya manghinayang.

ako n lang po pansinin nyo, i really need ur expert opinion guys kc magpapareserve n po ako next week. pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

The following are additional guidelines in relation to the extension of the Flair Towers 3% promo discount:

for more details please follow this link www.flairdmci.com (http://www.flairdmci.com)

1. All 2-bedroom and 3- bedroom unit reservations from November 10 to December 15 are eligible for the promo.

2. There is no cap on the number of 2-bedroom and 3-bedroom unit reservations during the promo period.

3. The buyer must complete all reservation requirements and submit the same within the promo period to be entitled the promo discount.

4. Official date of reservation will be based on the date indicated in the Provisional Receipt issued by DMCI Homes and not on the check issued by the buyer.

5. All previous implementing guidelines aside from the items above are still in effect.

ako n lang po pansinin nyo, i really need ur expert opinion guys kc magpapareserve n po ako next week. pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

I don't endorse this and I don't believe this, but if you're a fengshui believer this might help..

"16 Golden Fengshui Tips for choosing a Condo"

1) Make sure the condominium project is not situated near a temple, church, burial site or mosque. Once, I helped a client, a Hongkonger (Goldman and Sachs) to choose an apartment in Tokyo when he moved there to work. He was very grateful since this great job was offered after his apartment at Asphen Heights was 'fengshui-ed'. I noticed that the apartments in Tokyo are rather close to temples and graveyards and promptly told him to avoid those. Later he and his wife paid my airticket and accomodation to fly me to Tokyo to accurately fengshui their apartment in March this year.

2) Check to see if the roads are turning towards the condominium or are moving away from it. If roads move away, it means chi is being carried away by the cars and if roads move towards the condominium, then chi is being carried towards them. 3) Do not stay too close to a highway or a flyover. The noise created by the highway causes shar chi (negative energy) but the highway has something positive which is the yang energy. That is why in something negative there is always also something positive. The Ying and the Yang has to come together.

4) Observe where the swimming pool and other smaller pools are located. There should be no water found in the western side of your flat if not, it can cause you to loose money. The swimming pool should ideally be located in the eastern part of your apartment. These are for the period from 1984 to 2003. Yes, fengshui changes every twenty years and this period is also populary known as "the age of seven".

5) Look for sheng chi (positive energy) and sha chi (negative energy). Sheng chi means something beautiful while shar chi means something not beautiful. What then would consititute beautiful would be a beautiful garden that has grasses that are green in colour and with flowers and not yellow grasses and whithered flowers.

6) Choose the middle floors. They are the best. That is from level 4 to level 17. Apartments too low tend to have stale chi and the wind are usually not very strong. Hence wealth would be slow. Apartments too high will usually have strong winds and the chi in the apartments would all be dispersed by the strong winds leaving nothing behind. Hence people staying in those flats would not be able to save money.

Middle floors are the best but there is no hard and fast rule that it must be from level 4 to 17. What we want is for the wind to be gentle and breezy such that chi will be able to stay in the apartments longer than necessary so that wealth would be able to come in.

7) Higher floors are to be avoided as the wind is so strong that it disperses chi. If chi cannot stay, then a flat cannot be any good unless you consult a fengshui master to help you capture that chi.

8) If the sales person tells you that the door faces the north or south, do not assume it is a good house. It may not have good fengshui if it is actually facing the north-west or south-east. Remember that the facing need not necessary be taken as where the main door is. It is stated in an old ancient chinese book that "the facing need not be the main door." Hence it would be up to anyone to interpret what this actually means. So if you have a good teacher to train you in fengshui, you would be an expert in this field by now.

9) Watch out for any lampposts facing your main door. The lamp post is a fire element and we would use metal or water to counteract the fire element. Now is the time for the Geomancer to decide which element to use to counteract this lamp post. If water is used, then usually water tank or a water fountain can be suggested. Or if a metal is used then what is the best use of a metal element ? the sound of metal is the strongest use of metal. Hence a metal windchime made of 6 or 7 hollow or solid rods will be suggested. This is the reason why metal windchimes are the best rather than using a metal sculpture. Of course there are certain sectors that a metal windchime can never be hanged. If the Geomancer is well learned and trained she will know where.

10) Watch out for the closeness of the two blocks of flats opposite your main door. Chi rides on the wind will have to force themselves through such small narrow passges causing them to be sharp and piercing chi which will be extremely negative chi.

11) Look at where the MRT station is situated, as the chi carried by the train stops and accumulates here. Hence when the wind blows, it will blow the chi to all neighbouring flats or condo.

12) Do not buy a condominium unit because it is cheaper per square foot. An apartment with good fengshui is more important than the savings you will get. Fengshui affects our lives very much. It is only because most people are not aware of its virtues and applications and hence there were a lot of misconceptions about fengshui till today.

13) Do not choose a unit near a power station as you can develop serious illnesses if you stay too close to one for over a period of 10 years.

14) Do not choose a unit where there are sharp arrows or triangular shaped roofs pointing at your living room or bedrooms. This causes disagreements between the husband and the wife if the sharp arrows points at the master bedroom.

15) Choose the condominium colour that has your lucky colour, as in your 'Four Pillars of Destiny'. "Four Pillars of Destiny" is a form of life reading based on your birthday, time of birth and the country of birth. However some people may use the lunar calendar to calculate the four pillars while some uses the solar calendar. Therefore there will be differences in these calculations depending on who is reading your life.

16) Finally, choose a condominium unit that you feel very comfortable with upon first entering it if you are buying it at a resale. Our sixth sense is usually very accurate. If not then engage a Geomancer to help you pick one !

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excuse lang po...

anyway, ano ba nabili mong unit sa light? di ba aparador lang naman? kaya tama lang sa LIGHT ka, kase wala kang SPACE para mag stock!! ... ayos din para sayo na may sinehan, kasi kahit TV di kasya sa UNIT MO...

PEACE :banana::banana:

:banana::banana::banana::banana: kung magsalita akala mo ang LAKI ng UNIT na binili... :lol::lol::lol: malaki pa nga CR ng malls sa nabili nya eh... :lol::lol::lol:

ang saya saya.. hahaha :banana::banana: kaya pala "talk of convinience" ang pinagsasasabi, kasi di na kasya sa unit nya.. :lol::lol::lol:

ngat baka mauntog... hahaha

scud, thanks for the reply. kahit paano may nakuha ako. basta ung floor don ako pipili sa 4th to 17th floor. at ska di nman ang flair direktang mlapit sa highway. two way naman ata ang reliances street. nagtanong din ako sa ofc, sabi nong kaofcm8 ko may nabasa daw sya n don k daw dapat kumuha sa hanggang 7th floor lang kc in case of fire daw hanggang don lng daw kaya abutin ng ladder ng bombero.

hay, major major decision eto!

lighter, peace man. i just want opinions from you guys. :)

scud, thanks for the reply. kahit paano may nakuha ako. basta ung floor don ako pipili sa 4th to 17th floor. at ska di nman ang flair direktang mlapit sa highway. two way naman ata ang reliances street. nagtanong din ako sa ofc, sabi nong kaofcm8 ko may nabasa daw sya n don k daw dapat kumuha sa hanggang 7th floor lang kc in case of fire daw hanggang don lng daw kaya abutin ng ladder ng bombero.

hay, major major decision eto!

Kung kukuha sa higher floors dun ka sa malapit sa fire exit or malapit sa shear wall if possible. Hindi ko kabisado ang layout dito pero madalas nasa elevator ang shear wall, major structural support yan ng building. Madali lang makita kung saan ang shearwall, yan kasi ang tinatawag nila dito sa SSC na firewall :D

hi everybody, im new here but ive been lurking na for sometime here in sky. im planning to buy a unit in flair towers. this will be my first time to buy a condo so pls bear with me kung medyo matanong ako. first question: my idea po b kau kung magkano RPT ng 48sqm n unit, pati n din po ung RPT ng common areas, 2nd: anong floor po b magandang kumuha at bakit, 3rd: facing san po magandang kumuha sa south tower ng flair, 4th: anong floors po ung may open garden (atrium), 5th: maganda po bang kumuha sa floor na my atrium, 6th: un po kayang rooms nya tulaD ng sa tivoli n malalaki ung mga windows nya? thanks po.

I believe the Atrium floors for Flair are located at the 6th, 11th, 17th, 22th and 27th level. Atrium levels are slightly more expensive because you are paying a premium for the garden area right outside your unit. Since these types of floors are few, it's best to get these as they are more in demand. Window view facing morning sun is better because it will be much cooler in the afternoons.

I bought a 1br unit at the 17th floor, Atrium level.
Hope this helps, future neighbor :)

ay naku wag nyo n lang syang pansinin. he's trying to convince himself n mas ok ung nabili nya para di sya manghinayang.

kainin mo muna salita mo :bash::bash::bash:

better kainin mo na lang yung sinabi ni dhyongs kasi yun naman ang totoo. you are posting here saying light is better than flair kasi naiingit ka di ba? lahat ng sinabi ko wala kang masagot di ba? so you don't feel good kasi yun ang totoo di ba? kaya wala kang magawa kundi mag name calling at sundan ako sa isang thread tapos magpost ng....

DI BA TAGA DUN ka?? :lol::lol::lol::lol:
with the way you argue, pang squatter ang level :banana::banana:

alam mo para kang bata! papasok ka sa isang argument tapos pag hindi ka manalo, iiyak ka at mapipikon. better grow up! if not magsumbong ka na lang sa nanay mo!

geez! i can't believe i took you seriously! no name calling huh? i can't rebuke your statements/facts huh? i just did! and now, you resort to name calling? it's really a waste of time having discussion with a retard! ilang taon ka na ba? bakit parang grades school ka pa rin magisip? "may kainin mo muna ang sinabi mo" ka pang nalalaman? :bash::bash::bash:

personally, with nothing at stake --- i like both, but the sky lounge tipped the scale towards flair, while light's cinema isn't too appealing only because, too many people go to the toilet after the show/movie and the thought of hundreds of people/non-residents pissing in my building every two hours is too uncomfortable and unappealing. and watching movies go along with other errands like shopping (window shopping) and family dinner afterwards, I'd rather go to malls.

but both buildings have strong points. you're less forced to buy a car if you live in Light especially with the integration of MRT lines. you can hop on-hop off at your own convenience. that's a major money-saver. yuppie-lessee-magnet.

DMCI finish is usually better than the picture-perfect render. that's another plus.

the cinema is located in the commercial area. obviously and just like any others condos with commercial floors, the residential area is restricted only to tenants. In light, there are 6 floors that separate the commercial area (1st 2 floors) from the residential area. 3rd to 7th floor are parking areas. 8th flor is already the amenities area which is off limits to non-residents.

regarding the environment in the area, it really depends on the buyer. If you want a more private and peaceful environment, take Flair coz wala silang commercial areas like that of Light. I chose Light coz of the MRT and the convenience of the commercial areas below. i can still achieve a relatively peaceful environment since the crowd is 8 floors away from ground floor. besides, i got a unit in the upper floors.

CORRECT, walang kotse, walang storage room, walang space, walang asawa, kaw lang kasya. CORRECT

CONGRATS!!! :banana::banana:

PEACEFUL talaga jan.. isang tao per unit lang allowed. hahaha

Anyway, ilang SQM ba nabili mo? at di mo masagot sagot? hahahaha

20 sq m. May problema k b dun?

hahahaha, Sa loyola ba yan? :banana::banana:

more than half nyan eh BALCONY palang sa FLAIR ... :lol::lol::lol:

tama tama, dyan ka n lang.... para lang talaga masabing nakatira sa CONDO.. :lol::lol::lol:

wow, 20 sq meters ba ang lot mo sa Loyola? kelan ang libing mo. sakin na ang kape.:lol::lol::lol:

:lol::lol::lol::lol: weeeeeeeeeeeeeee ang galing galing ng joke....
WEEEEEEEEE HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO untog untog untog.... :lol::lol::lol::lol:

.THE BEST ANG LIGHT!!!

I don't see the logic behind all these arguments. one property might be superior to another in a certain criteria but at the end of the day, the buyer chooses according to his needs and budget.
kahit gaano pa sya kaganda and kahit gaano pa kagaling ang developer kung hindi naman kaya ng budget ko at di pasok sa pangangailangan ko, balewala din.
in a perfect world, I would have bought a property from Ayala but since we're not, I just settled for something else. I respect everyone's decision with regards to their property purchase. Everyone has their own reason on why they bought that particular property. to each his own ika nga.
What I don't really like is naging parang Nora vs. Vilma na itong mga fora dito. Naging parang Pex na tuloy. i wonder where the moderators are?

the buyer chooses according to his needs and budget.


Correct, pero di pa din ako pupunta sa ibang developer/thread at para ipagsigawan sa ibang developer/thread na masayang masaya ako sa nabili ko at mas maganda ang nabili ko kaysa dito ... at ikumpara ng ikumpara ang nabili nya .... <<<<< yan po ang mali ...

anyway, cheers ... :cheers::cheers::cheers:

ako n lang po pansinin nyo, i really need ur expert opinion guys kc magpapareserve n po ako next week. pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee


kasi, kapag BUYERS NG LIGHT ang kausap mo, limited agad ang info na ibibigay sayo. di nila sasabihin ang kakulangan ng developer o project. Of course, sasabihin ng nila na the best ang project at developer nya. Dun sya nakabili e.

anyway, IMHO mas ok sa Light.

- mas ok ang amenities, may basketball court pa.
- sky lounge, nakita ko na sky lounge ng Dansalan at Tivoli. maganda talga sya
- atrium, maluwag ang bawat floor.. di tulad sa iba ang sikip,
- better track records
- better finish
- mas ok ang FLOOR LAYOUT dito... at malalaki units

wag mo nang alalanin na connected na Light sa MRT, napuntahan mo na ba ung lugar ng Flair? ilang meters lang yan sa MRT at EDSA. NAPAKALAPIT trust me. SAVEMORE? pede mo din yan lakarin para mag grocery...

250m or less lang naman layo ng Light sa Flair (experts, correct me if im wrong)

personally, with nothing at stake --- i like both, but the sky lounge tipped the scale towards flair, while light's cinema isn't too appealing only because, too many people go to the toilet after the show/movie and the thought of hundreds of people/non-residents pissing in my building every two hours is too uncomfortable and unappealing. and watching movies go along with other errands like shopping (window shopping) and family dinner afterwards, I'd rather go to malls.

but both buildings have strong points. you're less forced to buy a car if you live in Light especially with the integration of MRT lines. you can hop on-hop off at your own convenience. that's a major money-saver. yuppie-lessee-magnet.

DMCI finish is usually better than the picture-perfect render. that's another plus.

Actually valid ang concern mo about the environmental and public health issues sa mga building designed with podia, especially kung ang nasa baba is commercial area na unpredictable at hindi constant ang dami ng tao na gagamit ng toilets kaya mahirap din idesenyo kung gaano kalaking diameter ng pipes ang dapat gamitin. Ang problema kasi sa sewer lines, dahil nga by gravity ang wastewater collection, kapag nagkaproblema sa pipes sa ibaba yung mga nasa taas ng building ang unang naapektuhan ng amoy. It is not the same sa ibang residential buildings na may maliit na commercial space na pwedeng pagbotohan ng mga unit owners ang amount ng maintenance fee na ipapatong sa mga commercial unit owners . Kung malalaking businessmen ang may-ari ng business, lalo na kung sila rin ang may-ari ng lote, hindi mo sila masisingil sa perwisyo na ibibigay sa inyo. OK lang sana kung sila rin ang mag-papaayos, dapat lang naman dahil sila pa rin ang may-ari ng lote na kinatitirikan ng structures.

SA INYONG LAHAT, MARAMING SALAMAT. thanks for taking the time to help me out. im excited to meet all of you future neighbors. See you in 2014.

ay may pahabol pa pala ako, talaga bang walang vat sa computation. 2 br with balcony po ung kinuha namin, ang alam ko po kasi pag more than 2.5M ay subject to 12% vat na. sabi nong agent sa DMCI daw po kung ano ung list price, un na un, closing fee lang ang idadagdag. thanks po

SA INYONG LAHAT, MARAMING SALAMAT. thanks for taking the time to help me out. im excited to meet all of you future neighbors. See you in 2014.

ay may pahabol pa pala ako, talaga bang walang vat sa computation. 2 br with balcony po ung kinuha namin, ang alam ko po kasi pag more than 2.5M ay subject to 12% vat na. sabi nong agent sa DMCI daw po kung ano ung list price, un na un, closing fee lang ang idadagdag. thanks po

The 12% Vat is already included in the list price

i dont mind retail/boutique or small restos or fix hair salon or even groceries as commercial spaces...except for cinema since its a habit to pee before or after the movie. you see people lining up to the toilet like a box office hit.

Pinuntahan ko yung site nung Flair project from MRT (walk lang), maganda yung place and location nya, tahimik. If you love to walk pwede ka pa makarating hanggang SM megamall (like I did) from there through mayflower.
Kaso if going to work siguro through edsa, papawisan ka pag naglakad ka papuntang MRT o bago ka makasakay ng bus sa edsa. Hindi sya malapit sa MRT in my opinion kung lalakarin. Pero may mga tricycle naman, pwede ka pa din pahatid hanggang pioneer edsa. Yun nga lang maganda dito kasi tahimik at parang maganda din yung mga amenities.

then get a combined unit or a bigger unit or the penthouse...

COMBINED ba kamo? Living at Dining COMBINED pa din!!! :lol::lol::lol:



2. when it comes to choosing really PRIME locations, 250m (or less) IS A LOOOOTTTT OF DIFFERENCE. Developers will spend millions just to acquire/buy the primest of the prime locations. "napakalapit sa MRT at pwede lakarin ang Savemore" is very much different from "nandun ka na mismo sa MRT at Savemore". .... .

blah blah blah, kaya nga CONGRATS jan ka nakabili.. kasi NEED mo talga yan..

- walang Kotse
- walang storage room
- walang space
- walang asawa

WALA WALA WALANG SPACE!!!

sa sobrang LIIT, wala ng magawa sa UNIT, kaya tambay n lang sa BABA... advice ko lang, 9" LCD TV n lang bilhin mo, baka sakaling KASYA PA :lol::lol::lol:

CONGRATS!!!

I would prefer Flair. There is too much noise to absorb in Light. If remembered it right, there were a number of people selling their units in GA because of the disturbing noise in EDSA.

anyway, parang ABS-CBN at GMA7 lang naman yan. :banana::banana:

gusto mo sa 2, edi doon ka. Gusto mo sa 7, edi doon ka :nuts:
gusto mo artista sa 2 edi doon ka. Gusto mo artista sa 7, edi doon ka

Kung gusto mong ipagsigawan na masaya ka sa channel na un, edi dun ka... pero kang pupunta sa channel 2 at sabihing mas maganda sa channel 7... aba world war 3 yan.. :lol::lol::lol: doon ka na lang sa Channel mo, kung gusto mong siraan channel ko, edi bahala kayo doon...

Gusto ko mag basketball eh, gusto ko ng skylounge eh, gusto ko ng magandang floor layout eh, etc etc etc... kaya FLAIR ang pinili ko ...

pero kung sasabihin mong mas maganda sa Light dahil sa SAVEMORE, cinema, MRT etc sa baba.. ibigsabihin ba na mas maganda ang LIGHT compare sa mga HIGH END CONDOS na walang commercial sa baba? :nuts::nuts:

sorry din sa mga MODS, hayaan ko n lang yung mga away dito.. pero kung sisiraan pa rin nila ang channel ko, aba di din ako titigil... hehehe PEACE!!! :cheers:

I would prefer Flair. There is too much noise to absorb in Light. If remembered it right, there were a number of people selling their units in GA because of the disturbing noise in EDSA.

for me also dont ever ever buy a property near a highway grabeh ang ingay jan promise

so, magkanu kuha mo sa 2 br with balcony?

3.8M po. originally, i was contemplating of getting sa cypress then nagpatripping ako sa agent sa iba pang dmci projects within taguig. nagbago isip ko kc nakita ko amenities ng royal palm. its so amazing! tapos nabanggit ko n dapat sa lights ako kukuha kaso naimbyerna ako sa agent nila. and then nasabi n meron din clang project near lights. kaya un pagkatapos naming magmuni muni magkakapatid, sa flair bagsak namin. kinonsider din pala namin ung tivoli

3.8M po. originally, i was contemplating of getting sa cypress then nagpatripping ako sa agent sa iba pang dmci projects within taguig. nagbago isip ko kc nakita ko amenities ng royal palm. its so amazing! tapos nabanggit ko n dapat sa lights ako kukuha kaso naimbyerna ako sa agent nila. and then nasabi n meron din clang project near lights. kaya un pagkatapos naming magmuni muni magkakapatid, sa flair bagsak namin. kinonsider din pala namin ung tivoli

Had the same experience... Was interested in Light due to attractive payment terms pero naimbyerna din ako sa Sales Agent and Sales Manager nila. I even went to their office near MOA. It felt so impersonal. Pakiramdam ko di ako client, instead, feeling supplier na kumukuha ng purchase order from SM. They had no info sheet to give at that time and mali-mali ang info binigay. Binabawi ang pinagsasabi. I figured, if I cannot trust them to give me the right info and their approach is very impersonal and unprofessional, I'll have problems later on.

But with DMCI, complete info ang binigay when they launched and well-informed ang Sales Agent. My agent bought a unit at Flair too. So kampante ako that she's doing due diligence not just as an agent but also as an investor.

kelan kaya magstart ng construction dito?

to give credit where credit is due, DMCI,from what I gathered, is a great developer. the only reason why I backed out from buying into one of their projects way back in 2005 was it's inaccesibility if you're using public transport.
that main issue for me is somehow answered now with Flair towers because of it's accesibility.the prices as well is quite competitive. di hamak na mas mura kaysa dun sa kinuha kong pre-selling na puro sama ng loob lang ang inabot ko.
I just finished looking at the lay-out and computations and it seems that the 1-BR A options look reasonable. I'm now just hoping if there are any agents here who can confirm if there are still any units left. TIA.

Had the same experience... Was interested in Light due to attractive payment terms pero naimbyerna din ako sa Sales Agent and Sales Manager nila. I even went to their office near MOA. It felt so impersonal. Pakiramdam ko di ako client, instead, feeling supplier na kumukuha ng purchase order from SM. They had no info sheet to give at that time and mali-mali ang info binigay. Binabawi ang pinagsasabi. I figured, if I cannot trust them to give me the right info and their approach is very impersonal and unprofessional, I'll have problems later on.

But with DMCI, complete info ang binigay when they launched and well-informed ang Sales Agent. My agent bought a unit at Flair too. So kampante ako that she's doing due diligence not just as an agent but also as an investor.

un namang sa kin, sa megamall - shiela ang name. ay naku para makuha agad kami kunwari may secret n offer sya para lng daw sa group nila. 5% off daw kaso hanggang kinabukasan lang ang offer. at sabi p nya what you see is what you get or better. ung sofa daw mas maganda p. etc etc etc. eh medyo atat ako, so sabi ko puntahan n nya ako agad sa ofc ng 8am to get the reservation and other reqmnts. eh wala naman akong alam dyan sa mga ganyan kc nga first timer. after i went home, nakapagisip isip ako. eh di naman un mura lng n pag nakamali puedeng cge lang. isip ko magcanvass muna ako, bk kako my ibang agent n my mas magandang offer. so punta kmi sa boni showroom nila. in fairness to jon (ung agent don) honest sya. sbi nya ung offer hanggang katapusan ng nov. at ung mga furniture, appliances (di sure kung ganon ding brand), etc eh di ganon talaga idedeliver kc upgrade n lang un mga ns model units. so nagdecide kami n kay jon n lng kumuha. pero napadaan kami s booth ng DMCI. tapos un n un ung kwento ko sa taas. hehehe

maybe, i was meant to have a unit talaga with dmci and not with smdc. pero i made a thorough comparison din with regards to convenience, floor area, amount, amenities etc. (among lights, cypress, tivoli, rawai of royal palm at flair)... and to my analysis......... it's FLAIR!!!

@dhyongs

nice! ganoon din ginawa ko when i was looking for a unit. dami ko din pinuntahan. nagtanong tanong sa mga agents pero i don't take their words for it. sometimes i cross examine them na parang wala akong idea about the project. hinahayaan ko lang sila magpresent. inaalam ko lang kung anu-ano ang mga similarity sa mga pinagsasabi nila. then i ask them regarding kung anong sinabi ng ibang agent (pinapalabas ko i heard it from an agent ng friend ko. i did that is because i know too well there are lots agents magaling mangako kahit hindi totoo para lang makabenta.

so i have the grounds covered regarding the agents. what i did not know, yung mismong developer pala ang may problema. napaka-unprofessional. pag may sinabi sila sa iyo, even sa mga agents nila, babaguhin pala. so even yung mga konting honest na agents, nadadamay. wala din silang magawa.

i also got a unit from smdc. its only because wala pang magandang project na convenient sa akin ang dmci. pero if may ganoon kalapit lang kagaya ng light at flair, i would go for dmci, given sa mga track records nila. about smdc naman, they make it a habit on taking back their words. babaguhin nila mga pinagusapan ninyo. pag hindi ka masaya, wala ka ng magagawa. pull-out mo investment mo? you wish! what they are doing is not "like" bait and switch. this is really what you call bait and switch!!!

this is what i have to say about smdc. anyone can comment kung hindi totoo ang mga sinasabi ko. if not, just be quiet. masusupalpal lang kayo. kasi hindi paninira ang nagsasabi ng totoo.

1.) pangit ang customer service ng smdc.
2.) delay ang mga turnover.
3.) pabago bago ng mga renderings at deliverables.
4.) substandard ang mga paggawa. (ngayon nga ayaw na nila magpakuha ng pic pag hindi pa tapos eh. kasi mabubuking sila.)
5.) nagdadagdag ng additional floors ng hindi alam ng investors para lumaki lalo ang kita.,
6.) gagamitin at pagkakakitaan nila yung mga resources ng property mo ng libre. (like lalagyan ng billboards at ipaparent ang mga sides ng building ninyo, puwedeng iparent din ang mga parking space sa baba. puwedeng din maglagay ng billboards sa rooftops o kaya antenna na hindi magbabayad sa HOA.) hindi pa nga malinaw kung kailangan nila magbayad ng asso dues sa HOA e.
7.) not to mention, sobrang laki ng padding nila sa other charges (closing fee) nila. akala mo yun talaga ang aabutin ng cost. pero if you investigate malalaman mo.

basically sa light, kanila yung taas (rooftop) at kanila rin ang baba (commercial area) nakapagitna lang ang owners. ipagmamalaki nila perpetual ownership naman ito. but when you compute ilan ba talaga yung perpetual ownership mo, sobrang liit na lang. lalabas mas malaki pa rin ang sa smdc niretain nila yung majority of the lower ground floor (commercial) at buong rooftop.

i just like to say, you made a good decision purchasing flair compared to light.

^thanks po. at saka malaki din po tulong ng pagbabasa ko ng mga forums po dito sa skyscraper.:):cheers:

http://multiply.com/mu/aeneasjulian/image/1/photos/10/600x600/67/Flair-surround-2.jpg?et=ApfE2IpYdoOrW5j75kb0zg&nmid=340175356

It is the safety and security while going to MRT and SaveMore that is at stake here. The probability of snatching and robbery along the way is higher.


FYI, may malaki ang chance mangyari yan sa MRT... :nuts::nuts:


The probability of getting through the air pollution of EDSA and the nearby factories and warehouses while going to MRT and Savemore is higher. .

Air pollution? sa EDSA? tama ka dyan... pero sino ba nakatira along EDSA? Facing EDSA pa kamo ang UNIT mo... Goodluck n lang sa "AIR pollution" at ingay ng mga BUS. :lol::lol:



This is what i mean when i say the Light offers more convenience than Flair in relation to transportation (MRT) and leisure (savemore). They are just below your building

Convenience? eh sa unit mo, FEELING @home ba? :nuts::nuts:

i'm seriosuly considering to get a unit from flair but can't decide on which floor to get a unit on.

just have a few questions that some of you might have an answer to:

1. what are the pros and cons in getting a unit in atrium levels? is it better to get a unit on floors that are above or below the atrium levels?
2. what view does the back of the south tower have? what about the front?
3. any broker or sales people that might want to pm me, pls. do so.

im looking to get a 2BR with balcony and i'd like to finalize my decision soon to avail of the 3% discount.

thanks

i'm seriosuly considering to get a unit from flair but can't decide on which floor to get a unit on.

just have a few questions that some of you might have an answer to:

1. what are the pros and cons in getting a unit in atrium levels? is it better to get a unit on floors that are above or below the atrium levels?
2. what view does the back of the south tower have? what about the front?
3. any broker or sales people that might want to pm me, pls. do so.

im looking to get a 2BR with balcony and i'd like to finalize my decision soon to avail of the 3% discount.

thanks


Here's my answer for your question #2. Hope this helps

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_zbA-BNyX0M0/TPxyR12CFVI/AAAAAAAAAFA/D-p4sw-XiBA/s1600/Flair+Towers+DMCI+Mandaluyong+03+Surrounding+Towers.jpg

i'm seriosuly considering to get a unit from flair but can't decide on which floor to get a unit on.

just have a few questions that some of you might have an answer to:

1. what are the pros and cons in getting a unit in atrium levels? is it better to get a unit on floors that are above or below the atrium levels?
2. what view does the back of the south tower have? what about the front?
3. any broker or sales people that might want to pm me, pls. do so.

im looking to get a 2BR with balcony and i'd like to finalize my decision soon to avail of the 3% discount.

thanks

http://multiply.com/mu/aeneasjulian/image/1/photos/10/600x600/77/Atrium.jpg?et=HoJN9Z%2BJQxKUm7EJIyAyHg&nmid=340175356

http://multiply.com/mu/aeneasjulian/image/1/photos/10/500x500/78/Garden-view.jpg?et=Tx4eLPeX8cQJmKNsTeERow&nmid=340175356

http://www.flairtowers.com/images/stories/Flair/Thumb/Flair%20Towers%20DMCI%20Mandaluyong%20Green%20Living%20Design.jpg

Here are the photos of a typical DMCI atrium concept. Each of the building comes with sky patios, central atriums and breezeways in every 5 floors, all contributing to the garden setting and influx of natural air and light in the building. The advantage of getting in the ground level units is that you get to enjoy the landscaped gardens just outside your doorsteps but on the other hand, possibly a lot of people will hang out in the same area (e.g kids, etc) thus will give you privacy issues if you are very particular about it.

I highly recommend that you get in the third level (gitna) for the following reasons :
1. More privacy (less foot traffic)
2. Take advantage of the luminvett technology. (for me mas ramdam yung breeze if nasa gitna)