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samson
July 18th, 2004, 06:49 PM
every 1 here try to gv top 10 skyline for malaysia.
for my top10 ranking is like tat
1)kl
2)george town-penang
3)jb
4)kuching
5)malacca
6)pj
7)kk
8)ipoh
9)sibu
10)seremban

Magician
July 19th, 2004, 07:00 AM
I think undoubtedly KL will out rule all the cities in Malaysia due to its massive skyline as well as skysrapers especially the Twin Tower.

The runner up will be obviously either Georgetown, Penang or JB, Johore. Both have their specialty and beauty.

Coming up could be... PJ, KK, Kuching or Ipoh... hard to rank man...

THT-United
July 19th, 2004, 10:17 AM
This is my top 10:
1. KL
2. Penang
3. JB
4. PJ
5. Malacca
6. Kuching
7. KK
8. Subang Jaya (inc'l Sunway)
9. Ipoh
10. Sandakan

D_Y2k.2^
July 19th, 2004, 05:20 PM
Here's mine:
1. KL(Most skyscrapers)
2. JB(More concentrated skyline than Penang)
3. Penang(HAve tall skyscrapers but a little too spread out)
4. PJ(Average height but densed)
5. Malacca(Many skyscrapers around the same height)
6. Kuching
7. KK
8. Subang Jaya
9. Ipoh
10.Seremban

mams
July 19th, 2004, 11:50 PM
Kl
Penang
Jb
Kuching
K Kinabalu
Pj
Klang
Melaka
Ipoh
Seremban

Most Beautiful...1.kl..2.jb...3.kuching :)

THT-United
July 20th, 2004, 05:32 AM
My earlier one was just "top 10 skyline"... Now here's my list of "most beautiful/scenic skyline":
1. KL (the cream of the crop!)
2. Penang (something like hongkong i.e. many tall apartment blocks, but more spacious area. Gurney Drive has a GoldCoast-like skyline!)
3. PJ (very spread out, buildings have all sorts of designs albeit rather short)
4. JB (nice cluster of skyscrapers in the City, but too bad the surrounding area is still quite low-rise)
5. Kuching (beautiful view of skyscrapers next to the river)
6. Malacca (oldest city with the most number of modern high-rises! I especially like the areas on the coast, such as Klebang and Malacca Raya)
7. KK (a mini-hk, with buildings on the waterfront backed by small hills and mt. kinabalu in the distance)
8. Subang Jaya (well-planned skyline, all buildings seem to be placed according to the straight-road grid here)
9. Klang (relatively recent cluster of high-rises, most of which are located at the Northern part of this city. There are more apartments and hotels than office blocks here)
10. Ipoh (Melbourne-like squarish grid, high-rises are all over the city center)

Magician
July 20th, 2004, 05:35 AM
Hey you guys have any Ipoh photos to share... I am sorry but I always have this impression that Ipoh is a big city but less highrises... can show some photos?

Kevinkhoo1986
July 22nd, 2004, 08:04 AM
My earlier one was just "top 10 skyline"... Now here's my list of "most beautiful/scenic skyline":
1. KL (the cream of the crop!)
2. Penang (something like hongkong i.e. many tall apartment blocks, but more spacious area. Gurney Drive has a GoldCoast-like skyline!)
3. PJ (very spread out, buildings have all sorts of designs albeit rather short)
4. JB (nice cluster of skyscrapers in the City, but too bad the surrounding area is still quite low-rise)
5. Kuching (beautiful view of skyscrapers next to the river)
6. Malacca (oldest city with the most number of modern high-rises! I especially like the areas on the coast, such as Klebang and Malacca Raya)
7. KK (a mini-hk, with buildings on the waterfront backed by small hills and mt. kinabalu in the distance)
8. Subang Jaya (well-planned skyline, all buildings seem to be placed according to the straight-road grid here)
9. Klang (relatively recent cluster of high-rises, most of which are located at the Northern part of this city. There are more apartments and hotels than office blocks here)
10. Ipoh (Melbourne-like squarish grid, high-rises are all over the city center)

I found a very nice place to capture klang's skyline which happened to be in fourth storey block in my current school. Too bad i did not have Digicam :( I always enjoyed the scenary of klang's skyline in there. The feng shui is kinda nice too, a hill beside my school which is a cemetery :bash:

THT-United
July 22nd, 2004, 03:39 PM
http://gallery.cybertarp.com/albums/userpics/21718/normal_PJ%20State%20cityscape.jpg
Petaling Jaya (State area only lah)! It's a bit hard to get a pix of the ENTIRE cityscape of PJ, as the city is so spread out... The only way is either from the airplane or space satellite...

Kevin, that school you are talking about sounds familiar... Izzit the Hin Hua School located just opposite Metro Club? That's the tallest school around what...

TYW
July 24th, 2004, 05:46 AM
1) Kuala Lumpur - not only best in Malaysia but could be best in Asia
2) George Town - most high-rises oustide KL, few tall ones but others seem to have same height
3) Johor Bahru - cute skyline with modern buildings
4) Petaling Jaya - interesting skyline, looks american
5) Kuching - quite a nice skyline, a few cool glassy ones
6) Malacca - more buildings comming up
7) Alor Setar - err.....Menara Alor Setar??

other cities are more or less the same IMO. how about some pics of Ipoh, Kuala Terrengganu, Kota Kinabalu, Kuantan and Kota Bahru??:D

samson
July 24th, 2004, 08:34 AM
1) Kuala Lumpur - not only best in Malaysia but could be best in Asia
2) George Town - most high-rises oustide KL, few tall ones but others seem to have same height
3) Johor Bahru - cute skyline with modern buildings
4) Petaling Jaya - interesting skyline, looks american
5) Kuching - quite a nice skyline, a few cool glassy ones
6) Malacca - more buildings comming up
7) Alor Setar - err.....Menara Alor Setar??

other cities are more or less the same IMO. how about some pics of Ipoh, Kuala Terrengganu, Kota Kinabalu, Kuantan and Kota Bahru??:D
what is IMO???
alor setar rank 7????
i think kk,sibu... n many other cities is more better than alor setar.
tat is my opinion

samson
July 24th, 2004, 09:34 AM
for u all ranking i found
1-3 r kl,pg n jb :)
4-6 r kuching or malacca or pj :)
ranking 1 to 3 not need to compare .
now who is the 4-6 ranking in malaysia??? :bash: :bash: :bash:
compare:

Malacca:
http://img50.photobucket.com/albums/v154/samsongoh1985/mlk9.bmp
http://img50.photobucket.com/albums/v154/samsongoh1985/mlk3.jpg
http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v293/aixinjueluo/hangtuahmall4.jpg
http://gallery.cybertarp.com/albums/userpics/22575/P1000741.JPG

Petaling Jaya
http://gallery.cybertarp.com/albums/userpics/21718/normal_PJ%20State%20cityscape.jpg
http://img50.photobucket.com/albums/v154/samsongoh1985/pjsky.jpg

Kuching
http://www.geocities.com/chaiyain/kch.txt
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/9kuchingpano1.jpg

TYW
July 24th, 2004, 03:42 PM
what is IMO???
alor setar rank 7????
i think kk,sibu... n many other cities is more better than alor setar.
tat is my opinion

IMO = In My Opinion

i need more pics or better, visits to other cities/towns to make a decition. i don't know what to put on no.7 and i thought of Alor Setar. that's why it is there;)

THT-United
July 25th, 2004, 06:41 AM
These are my suggestions for nos. 4-6:
4. Petaling Jaya - that skyline view of PJ State (the city center) is the most "popular" skyline views... However, PJ has many suburban areas with significant high-rise clusters, including Kelana Jaya, Damansara Perdana, Tropicana, and Damansara Uptown...

5. Malacca - for a city founded in 1400, Malacca has a nice high-rise skyline... The City Center has its Renaissance & Emperor Hotel cluster (and not forgetting the Hang Tuah Walk), Malacca Raya is dominated by Century Mahkota and some apartment blocks together with Equatorial Hotel further away, and Klebang has something like a GoldCoast skyline! Not forgetting the four apartment blocks of A' Famosa resort...

6. Kuching - the most sparse skyline of the three but Kuching has several nice glassy towers located along the riverside... That, in my opinion, has the best setting for a skyline (high-rises reflected in the river!)... Wish the buildings were taller, though...


As for nos. 7-10, here are my suggestions (do not follow my previous post):
7. KK - a more seafront version of Kuching's skyline...
8. Subang Jaya-Sunway - imagine a smaller PJ :) ...
9. Kuantan - reasonably modern skyline for the most significant eastcoast city...
10. Klang - relatively recent high-rises (Regency Tower, Dynasty Condo, Goldcourse Hotel etc) all over the place... Pity that there are several abandoned projects as well...

Ipoh has fallen out of the list, though... Skyline-wise, it loses out to kuantan in terms of better-designed tower blocks and location (kuantan is near a river and the sea, ipoh is rather land-locked)...

THT-United
July 25th, 2004, 06:45 AM
http://www.geocities.com/chaiyain/kch.txt
Reminds me of miri, but with more high-rises!

baqthier
December 30th, 2004, 10:12 PM
Top 7:
1) KL
2) Penang
3) JB
4) PJ
5) Melaka
6) SJ
7) Putrajaya

:)

TYW
December 31st, 2004, 05:25 AM
ooh!! looks like most of us have forgotten putrajaya

here's my new list:

1) KL
2) PG
3) JB
4) PJ
5) Putrajaya
6) Kuching
7) Malacca
8) Alor Setar

(in the future, maybe Butterworth??:D)

Andrew Goh
December 31st, 2004, 10:19 AM
IMO = In My Opinion

i need more pics or better, visits to other cities/towns to make a decition. i don't know what to put on no.7 and i thought of Alor Setar. that's why it is there;)

I love you so much TYW :D

TYW
December 31st, 2004, 12:02 PM
I love you so much TYW :D

aww.....that's so nice to hear :hug: :D

Magician
January 1st, 2005, 07:50 AM
I love you so so much TYW :P

TYW
January 1st, 2005, 08:42 AM
I love you so so much TYW :P

awww.....that's so so nice to hear :hug: :D

Magician
January 1st, 2005, 11:29 AM
Then share more photos... hahaha

TYW
January 1st, 2005, 03:03 PM
Then share more photos... hahaha

no problems!! check out this thread then ;)

http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=2907984#post2907984

Magician
January 1st, 2005, 05:49 PM
Hehe... I love you so so so much

nazrey
January 1st, 2005, 06:55 PM
For the skyline CITY

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/maps/my-map.gif

1 Kuala Lumpur (incl. Klang valley) - Federal territory in Selangor
2 George Town - Penang
3 Johor Baharu - Johor
4 Kota Kinabalu - Sabah
5 Kuching - Sarawak
6 Shah Alam - Selangor
7 Melaka city - Melaka
8 Kuantan - Pahang
9 Alor Setar - Kedah
10 Seremban - Negeri Sembilan
.
.
.

Putrajaya is a unique city at all............
However Kuala Teranganu (Teranganu) is better than Kota baharu (Kelantan) but no idea for Kangar (Perlis).Maybe Butterworth is better than that! but Ipoh (Perak) is expect for the nex big things!

Note: The city in Malaysia to propose is all the capital of each state only.
So far to add in the list for some reserve city such as Sibu,Miri,Victoria (Labuan island),Taiping,Butterworth etc..

nazrey
January 1st, 2005, 08:02 PM
Seremban - Negeri Sembilan

http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/500/6020img_0018.jpg

http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/500/6020img_0012.jpg

http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/500/6020img_0011.jpg

http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/500/6020img_0007.jpg

http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/500/6020img_0005.jpg

http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/500/6020img_0008.jpg

nazrey
January 1st, 2005, 08:12 PM
saya suka tentang kota - kota di Malaysia tak da beberapa wire!
So major cities in Malaysia almost wireless at all ...tapi kat Kota baharu adalah yang di nampak kan lagi sedikit...but in Kota Baharu is also got a lil!

Magician
January 2nd, 2005, 02:22 PM
quite a nice town

TYW
January 3rd, 2005, 08:28 AM
Hehe... I love you so so so much

awww.....that's so so so nice to hear :hug: :D

TYW
January 3rd, 2005, 08:29 AM
cool!! Seremban got no wires also:happy:

Andrew Goh
January 4th, 2005, 07:44 AM
awww.....that's so so so nice to hear :hug: :D

Wah lau, look at him, he just copied and pasted!! The reply to you is exactly like mine~ :mad2:

TYW
January 4th, 2005, 09:55 AM
Wah lau, look at him, he just copied and pasted!! The reply to you is exactly like mine~ :mad2:

then, the problem is between you and him:D

baqthier
January 4th, 2005, 10:16 AM
cool!! Seremban got no wires also:happy:

I think all Malaysian downtowns don't have those bulky wires hanging around lah ;)

baqthier
January 4th, 2005, 10:19 AM
Terminal One building looks so blue..pretty cool!
http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/500/6020img_!0018.jpg

Wah lots of text :D
http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/500/6020img_0008.jpg

Lastresorter
January 5th, 2005, 08:03 PM
PJ (actually including Subang Jaya) is 4th after KL, Penang & JB... Sunway is one of the suburbs in PJ...

TYW
January 6th, 2005, 03:42 AM
WELCOME TO THE FORUMS, Lastresorter!!!

nazrey
January 23rd, 2005, 11:22 AM
For a PRETTY SKYLINE result again! got it in SSC/cityscape thread.Angkat diketahwi...

SHAH ALAM

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/2/9shah_alam2.jpg

SEREMBAN

http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/500/6020img_0018.jpg

KUCHING

http://img51.photobucket.com/albums/v157/baqthier/kuching1.jpg

http://img181.exs.cx/img181/3578/102618717mcmddtphy3ty.jpg

nazrey
January 23rd, 2005, 11:34 AM
BTW I found some pics of Melaka city

http://gallery.interimic.com/photoalbums/malaka_city/H0059.sized.jpg

http://gallery.interimic.com/photoalbums/malaka_city/H0038.sized.jpg

http://gallery.interimic.com/photoalbums/malaka_city/H0039.sized.jpg

RafflesCity
February 1st, 2005, 05:17 AM
wow..Kuching's skyline looks very nice, especially by the water! :cheers:

Magician
February 1st, 2005, 01:47 PM
Melaka is a nice place too

Skyprince
May 3rd, 2006, 08:25 AM
In my opinion,

Cities with the greatest number of skylines Ranking:

1) Kuala Lumpur , of course !
2) Penang= the second biggest city what !
3) Petaling Jaya= Subang Jaya and Sunway are also parts of PJ lah !
4) Johor Bahru= come on, try to fight with Singapore !
5) Kuching
6) Melaka
7) Kota Kinabalu
8) Labuan = don`t pandang rendah to me lor !
9) Shah Alam
10) Miri

The most livable cities:Ranking

1) Shah Alam
=> absolutely , and undoubtedly , the best city in Malaysia. Clean, convenient, no traffic, architecturally impressive, and relaxing. Not as boring as many people said !

2) Miri
=> Why ? Clean, systematic, a resort city. Beautiful mini-KLIA style airport. Many parks, friendly locals. The most beautiful city to watch from the sky !

3) Putrajaya
=> More beautiful than Shah Alam but the problem is I selalu kena gigit nyamuk lah !

4) Petaling Jaya
=> Very modern with world-class shopping malls and private institutions but the traffic buat I sakit kepala !

5) Labuan
6) Kota Kinabalu
7) Serdang/Bangi
8) Kuching

9) Kuala Lumpur
=> The most cosmopolitan city in the world and the capital of the most wonderful country on earth . But it has three functions .. Mini Malaysia, Mini China, and Mini India. Don`t need to travel to China or India, you can find them here in KL.

10) Sibu

Skyprince
May 3rd, 2006, 10:41 AM
The most improving cities ranking

1) Alor Setar
- the whole city has been relandscaped and cleanliness has improved extensively. But Shahab Perdana Bus Terminal remains dirty ! Don`t shout that youre going to `maju` by the year 2010 !

2) Miri
- the city has grown from nothing into one of the most beautiful cities in less than 10 years

3) Kota Bharu
- The new airport performed a great welcoming feel to visitors but the cleanliness left much to be desired..

4) Kuala Lumpur
- of course many capital injection what !

5) Butterworth/Prai
- industries are growing

6) Penang
7) Petaling Jaya
8) Tawau
9) Shah Alam
10) Sg. Petani

Very Controversial
May 3rd, 2006, 09:49 PM
- Kuala Lumpur
- Penang
- Kuching
- Johor Bahru
- Petaling Jaya
- Melaka
- Kota Kinabalu
- Putrajaya (Still under construction)
- Genting
- Labuan
- Kuala Lipis (Just Kidding!)

raksasa sundek
May 4th, 2006, 02:00 AM
[1] Kuala Lumpur
http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/500/4319ku.jpg

[2] Penang
http://img124.exs.cx/img124/8770/Penang10.jpg

[3] Johor Bahru
http://zemobs.free.fr/johor%20bahru/Dsc00014.jpg

[4] Kota Kinabalu
http://www.e-worldphoto.com/malaysia/kota_kinabalu/kk2.jpg

[5] Kuching
http://www.monash.edu.my/images/KL%20pics/kuching%20waterfront%20-%20day1.jpg

AFL
May 4th, 2006, 01:17 PM
I think kuching should be number four and KK...well fifth :sleepy:

Manila-X
May 4th, 2006, 02:09 PM
1) KL
2) Penang
3) Johor Bahru
4) Kuching
5) Kota Kinabalu

pedang
May 4th, 2006, 02:42 PM
^^ PJ n Shah Alam skyline better than KK- IMO.

jeeshyan
May 6th, 2006, 11:12 AM
Ipoh got a few skyscraper only... may be the airport is too near or Ipohan enjoy low-rise buildings... Haha...

The tallest building in Ipoh is 20 storey. All this tall building was built long time ago... The lastest highrise building is PTTC building at Jelapang, Ipoh.

But recently, there are quite a lot of condominium projects at Ipoh, they may give Ipoh a new view. :)

Lastresorter
May 6th, 2006, 09:03 PM
What are the criteria in judging the top 10 skylines in the country? IMO, Ipoh looks great with the mountainous backdrop despite low building heights. PJ looks great in many clusters yet they are not concentrated in one as compared to KL. From the pics, KK & Kuching have an edge over the others - the nature.

Lastresorter
May 6th, 2006, 09:16 PM
However, as a PJian, I feel obligated to showcase my city a bit :D

One of the many highrise clusters in PJ - PJ State, which is also the "cbd".
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v188/argory/Gasing%20hill/PJcbd.jpg

teckkang
May 7th, 2006, 04:50 AM
1) Klang Valley (this includes KL, PJ, Shah Alam, MSC area and cities around Klang Valley)
2) Penang Island
3) Johor Baru
4) Kuching
5) Melaka
6) Kota Kinabalu
7) Ipoh
8) Alor Setar
9) Miri
10) Kuantan

obrien_kny
May 10th, 2006, 06:39 PM
Anyone here can put up a pic of KL twin tower

hetfield85
May 11th, 2006, 09:23 PM
Anyone here can put up a pic of KL twin tower

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i84/airport85/PTT.jpg

THT-United
May 20th, 2006, 11:17 AM
Wow, that pix of KLCC is beautiful!

Anyway, here are my top5 skylines (i broke the generic "top10" into several Top5 categories):

Biggest cluster of high-rises
1. KL
2. Penang
3. Johor Bahru
4. Petaling Jaya
5. Kota Kinabalu

Fastest-growing skyline
1. KL
2. Petaling Jaya
3. Penang
4. Malacca
5. Kota Kinabalu

Most high-rises above 10-storeys
1. Kuala Lumpur
2. Penang
3. Petaling Jaya
4. Kota Kinabalu
5. Johor Bahru

Tallest building (top-down)
1. Petronas Twins, KL - 88 storeys
2. KOMTAR, Penang - 60 storeys
3. Landmark Tower, JB - 40-storeys
4. Armanee Terrace, PJ - 38 storeys
5. Three-tower condo in klebang, Malacca - 35 storeys

THT-United
May 20th, 2006, 11:20 AM
Anyway for good measure, here is a pix of PJ taken from Gasing Hill...
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g94/clienut_gadgetfreak/PJviewedfromBukitGasing001.jpg

Very Controversial
May 20th, 2006, 11:50 PM
I like the picture of KK posted by Raksasa Sundek. Check out the blue water, something Penang does not. Just hope that there is not much deforestation that will turn the sea brown, though brown is natural sometimes. As long as the buildings in KK are nice like Putrajaya, then that is good.

mcd
May 21st, 2006, 11:23 AM
wei ..give ur pendapat wif facts la...

TYW
May 26th, 2006, 03:45 PM
I like the picture of KK posted by Raksasa Sundek. Check out the blue water, something Penang does not. Just hope that there is not much deforestation that will turn the sea brown, though brown is natural sometimes. As long as the buildings in KK are nice like Putrajaya, then that is good.

so, what's the colour of Penang's water? purple?

khoojyh
May 30th, 2006, 07:11 PM
do u all know that some Johorean said... Penang is a "kampung"???
they said JB quality much more higher than Penang.....!!!
haha... higher in criminal cases???

Very Controversial
May 30th, 2006, 09:25 PM
so, what's the colour of Penang's water? purple?

The water of the coast of KK seems to be lighter blue in many pictures I have seen so far. It is similar in some ways to the color of the water of most Carribean beaches (I recommend to check those beaches out, they are gorgeous). Penang seems to be blue or dark blue. However, the color of the water does not determine how great the coastline is. But I like it light blue (Personal opinion). You can prove me wrong by showing a beautiful picture of Penang's coastline and Batu Ferringhi beach or another better beach. :)

Sabahkid
May 31st, 2006, 03:23 AM
Wow, that pix of KLCC is beautiful!

Anyway, here are my top5 skylines (i broke the generic "top10" into several Top5 categories):

Biggest cluster of high-rises
1. KL
2. Penang
3. Johor Bahru
4. Petaling Jaya
5. Kota Kinabalu

Fastest-growing skyline
1. KL
2. Petaling Jaya
3. Penang
4. Malacca
5. Kota Kinabalu

Most high-rises above 10-storeys
1. Kuala Lumpur
2. Penang
3. Petaling Jaya
4. Kota Kinabalu
5. Johor Bahru

Tallest building (top-down)
1. Petronas Twins, KL - 88 storeys
2. KOMTAR, Penang - 60 storeys
3. Landmark Tower, JB - 40-storeys
4. Armanee Terrace, PJ - 38 storeys
5. Three-tower condo in klebang, Malacca - 35 storeys

Hi,

Just wondering:
1) What is your criteria for "Top 5 skyline"?
2) What is your definition for high-rise? (anything above 2 sty?)
3) Have you visited all those cities on your list before coming out with your top honor list?

Thks.


cheers :)

The Usual Suspect
May 31st, 2006, 09:38 AM
Sabahkid's got a point :)

TYW
May 31st, 2006, 03:13 PM
The water of the coast of KK seems to be lighter blue in many pictures I have seen so far. It is similar in some ways to the color of the water of most Carribean beaches (I recommend to check those beaches out, they are gorgeous). Penang seems to be blue or dark blue. However, the color of the water does not determine how great the coastline is. But I like it light blue (Personal opinion). You can prove me wrong by showing a beautiful picture of Penang's coastline and Batu Ferringhi beach or another better beach. :)

yeah, KK's sea is beautiful with it's different shades of blue. (is it because of corals?) Penang's sea on the other hand looks more greenish.

but i do not understand why are you talking about the colour of the sea when we are discussing about skyline here?

TYW
May 31st, 2006, 03:26 PM
Hi,

Just wondering:
1) What is your criteria for "Top 5 skyline"?
2) What is your definition for high-rise? (anything above 2 sty?)
3) Have you visited all those cities on your list before coming out with your top honor list?

Thks.


cheers :)

that is just his opinion. it is not like he did a research on the skylines of those cities.

Very Controversial
May 31st, 2006, 11:08 PM
yeah, KK's sea is beautiful with it's different shades of blue. (is it because of corals?) Penang's sea on the other hand looks more greenish.

but i do not understand why are you talking about the colour of the sea when we are discussing about skyline here?

My mistake. I won't do it again. At many times, I bring out unrelated topics. :)

Pablo
June 4th, 2006, 10:20 AM
yeah, KK's sea is beautiful with it's different shades of blue. (is it because of corals?) Penang's sea on the other hand looks more greenish.

but i do not understand why are you talking about the colour of the sea when we are discussing about skyline here?

yes coral or maybe the rock in the sea..;)

cooltemper
April 12th, 2007, 04:30 AM
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Magician
April 12th, 2007, 05:57 AM
In my opinion,

Cities with the greatest number of skylines Ranking:

1) Kuala Lumpur , of course !
2) Penang= the second biggest city what !
3) Petaling Jaya= Subang Jaya and Sunway are also parts of PJ lah !
4) Johor Bahru= come on, try to fight with Singapore !
5) Kuching
6) Melaka
7) Kota Kinabalu
8) Labuan = don`t pandang rendah to me lor !
9) Shah Alam
10) Miri


Hi Skyprince, Thanks for calling Penang second biggest city. However, it actual Penang is not the second biggest... A lot of hot debate talking about Penang city size... but, apparently Kuching, Ipoh, JB and even Penang are fighting for the status. But, I guess most probably Penang is not second biggest.

However, I search through Wikipedia.. and they name Penang as second city of Malaysia, which means Penang is the second most important city in Malaysia economically and development wise after KL.

Also, most of the case second city is also the second largest... but I think in Penang's case... probably size is not the second largest but development wise... to some extend yes...

Nothing related to skyline ranking... but just want to discuss about some points... cheers

dwinz
April 12th, 2007, 06:00 PM
My rank:

1.KL = Since S'pore not part of M'sia =P ok la I like the twins a lot. hehehehe
2.Penang = Looks like Hawaii! I love it
3.JB = A lot of Highrise
4. Kuching = I love the clusters of Highrise along the river. Not to mention Kuching Towers which is currently under-construction (Tallest in Borneo hehe)
5. Putra Jaya = I love the chick design for the buildings there.
6. KK = I always have thing for the Islands in KK. The city is ok nice I like the financial triplets!
7.Malacca = Unique architectures old and new similar to that of Kuching. Bur better
8. Miri = Another nice city
9. Labuan = Similar to KK
10. Ipoh = ??

cooltemper
April 13th, 2007, 04:59 AM
http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/

adiyon84
April 13th, 2007, 05:03 AM
Hey you guys have any Ipoh photos to share... I am sorry but I always have this impression that Ipoh is a big city but less highrises... can show some photos?


Hi, I've got this pics from the other threads.. although Ipoh doesnt have so many high rises building or skyline.. but it's still the largest city in terms of coverage area and population.. :banana:

This picture were taken at the nearby Hotel..

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f173/adiyon84/IpohCity2.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f173/adiyon84/IpohCity3.jpg

This is at the "Old Town" of Ipoh city...

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f173/adiyon84/Ipoh/IMG_4724A.jpg

Lastresorter
April 13th, 2007, 05:45 AM
^^ Ipoh is so blessed with its hilly backrop :okay:

dwinz
April 13th, 2007, 09:55 AM
I like the last pic

adiyon84
April 14th, 2007, 07:29 AM
This is another picture of Ipoh from the hills.. sorry,this picture only taking half of the city :D

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f173/adiyon84/Ipoh47.jpg

teckkang
April 14th, 2007, 02:36 PM
wow, nice mountains

OshHisham
April 15th, 2007, 08:30 AM
Ipoh reminds me of IPOH NOODLE in KLCC :D....ahh..i love it!

James Foong
April 15th, 2007, 10:57 AM
wow..i like the backdrop. can you post some pics of street lifes?

adiyon84
April 15th, 2007, 12:55 PM
wow..i like the backdrop. can you post some pics of street lifes?

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This is some pics of Ipoh...

Near Jalan Kampar.. the new upcoming area in Ipoh...

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f173/adiyon84/Ipoh/JalanKampar.jpg

This is common streets in Ipoh...

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f173/adiyon84/Ipoh%202/Ipoh52.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f173/adiyon84/Ipoh%202/Ipoh53.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f173/adiyon84/Ipoh%202/Ipoh55.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f173/adiyon84/Ipoh%202/Ipoh83.jpg

slby
April 15th, 2007, 07:21 PM
Sibu's skyline as of 2007 with limited high rise but quite densely and tidily arranged and populated. Sibu can hardly be ranked among the top skylines in Malaysia but i think it looks nice.
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i301/slby/322798507_7d7f5f8751.jpg
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i301/slby/ILoveBlueSky02.jpg

adiyon84
April 16th, 2007, 05:17 AM
Sibu's skyline as of 2007 with limited high rise but quite densely and tidily arranged and populated. Sibu can hardly be ranked among the top skylines in Malaysia but i think it looks nice.

In my opinion, most skyline or modern cities in Malaysia nowadays are concentrated along river or sea..

No wonder they are more developed than other cities in "pedalaman"... :ohno:

Except for Kuala Lumpur la.. coz it's Capital of Malaysia kan..

anyway, nice sibu's skyline actually.. especially at nite... :banana:

Magician
April 16th, 2007, 05:21 AM
Oh if yous study Economy... the first lesson they will say...

Most of the developed cities in the world are built next to sea/river... that's where the seaport is... KL is special case hehe... but Port Klang is pretty near too

TYW
April 16th, 2007, 06:26 AM
KL is by the river isn't it?? :D

Geminian
April 16th, 2007, 06:43 AM
By two rivers............I mean is a huge drains now.....orrect me if im wrong.:)

dwinz
April 16th, 2007, 07:26 AM
Sungai Gombak o something of that name right. But KL river very dirty ler.... as if Sarawak River in Kuching very clean :D

adiyon84
April 17th, 2007, 06:01 AM
Sungai Gombak o something of that name right. But KL river very dirty ler.... as if Sarawak River in Kuching very clean :D

Yes, that's true.. but KL still in the "pedalaman" compare to Penang and JB.. and it is one of the modern and developed city kan.. huhu.. how sad other cities like Alor Setar or Ipoh etc.. cannot compete with others (those) cities... :ohno:

Geminian
April 17th, 2007, 06:37 AM
:cheers: :cheers: My choice will be :

1)KL-No doubts

2)Penang-great developments going on side by side with beautiful colonial architectures.

3)Kuching-always have a soft spot for city along rivers.

4)JB-future development surely change this northern city.

5)Melaka-not much of a skyline but the with stadhuys and st paul church why need others.

Rest of the city got alot of catching to do to be on par with those cities.:cheers:

dwinz
April 17th, 2007, 09:11 AM
Nightview of Kuching city by KHO @ catscity.com.my

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r72/dwinzz/437580906_14c93546f2_o.jpg

brain_failure
April 17th, 2007, 12:26 PM
among all cities in malaysia, i find that kuching is d cleanest.

my choice:

1) KL
2) Penang
3) JB
4) Kuching
5) Melaka
6) KK

Other cities skyline in malaysia look quite similar n flat

dwinz
April 17th, 2007, 12:44 PM
Yeap Kuching is clean if compared to others city in Malaysia but I think we can be cleaner. :D

KING BOB
April 17th, 2007, 04:04 PM
Kuching yeah (clean :D)
But of course, KL is the best, I just hope Putrajaya, George town, kuching, Petaling jaya, Johor bahru, and all the other developing cities can bring more and taller skyscrapers. I hope :)
1. KL (YEAH!)
2. George town (:))
3. Johor bahru (;P)
4. Putrajaya (It will rise) together with Kuching
5. Malaca (short skyline)
6. Kuantan (Okay :D)
7. Klang

dwinz
April 18th, 2007, 07:28 AM
Kuching yeah (clean :D)
But of course, KL is the best, I just hope Putrajaya, George town, kuching, Petaling jaya, Johor bahru, and all the other developing cities can bring more and taller skyscrapers. I hope :)
1. KL (YEAH!)
2. George town (:))
3. Johor bahru (;P)
4. Putrajaya (It will rise) together with Kuching
5. Malaca (short skyline)
6. Kuantan (Okay :D)
7. Klang


The higrises in Kuching is very spread out. Furthermore our pop is not as big as KL so too many highrises will exceed demand. :D

teckkang
April 18th, 2007, 11:15 AM
Kuching yeah (clean :D)
But of course, KL is the best, I just hope Putrajaya, George town, kuching, Petaling jaya, Johor bahru, and all the other developing cities can bring more and taller skyscrapers. I hope :)
1. KL (YEAH!)
2. George town (:))
3. Johor bahru (;P)
4. Putrajaya (It will rise) together with Kuching
5. Malaca (short skyline)
6. Kuantan (Okay :D)
7. Klang

Melaka's skyline is kinda spreadout too. We hav clusters of skyline along Jln Munshi Abdullah and Hang Tuah mall, and Melaka Raya. Both the areas are about 1km apart, separated by Melaka's oldtown. Hopefully Melaka will hav a skyline which surrounds the old town in a big circle and hence makes Melaka old town the centre of the city. :)

dwinz
April 18th, 2007, 05:49 PM
Melaka's skyline is kinda spreadout too. We hav clusters of skyline along Jln Munshi Abdullah and Hang Tuah mall, and Melaka Raya. Both the areas are about 1km apart, separated by Melaka's oldtown. Hopefully Melaka will hav a skyline which surrounds the old town in a big circle and hence makes Melaka old town the centre of the city. :)

That would be cool^^ We have a few clusters in Kuching. One cluster is Hilton area and another cluster is at Hock lee. Then a cluster in satok and soon another cluster at padang merdeka there

Ethaniel83
April 20th, 2007, 09:00 PM
Centro, the tallest bldg in Klang

http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/3547/img4159co5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

TYW
April 21st, 2007, 09:41 AM
Centro looks much shorter in that pic than what i saw in the newspapers :D

anyway, thanks for the pic, i haven't seen its surrounding area before

dwinz
April 22nd, 2007, 11:57 AM
The building to the far right which looks like a Chinese temple looks cool.

slby
April 22nd, 2007, 05:29 PM
Sibu night skyline: http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b311/qanxtiong/skiss3.jpg

alsen
April 24th, 2007, 02:08 PM
Sibu night skyline:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b311/qanxtiong/skiss3.jpg

wow :eek2:.are we in planet earth or mars? .btw,nice pic ^^

dwinz
April 24th, 2007, 03:33 PM
wow :eek2:.are we in planet earth or mars? .btw,nice pic ^^

I like the sky! reddish in col

slby
April 27th, 2007, 07:09 PM
Sibu skyline in the evening.
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i301/slby/SibuSkyline-Evening.jpg

neversaynever
April 27th, 2007, 08:38 PM
Malacca

http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/7160/dsc00816zs1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/842/dsc00817da0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

teckkang
April 28th, 2007, 09:37 PM
Malacca

http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/7160/dsc00816zs1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/842/dsc00817da0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

That's just less than half of melaka skyline. where is melaka raya, ujong pasir, klebang and bukit beruang ones?

neversaynever
April 29th, 2007, 10:34 AM
That's just less than half of melaka skyline. where is melaka raya, ujong pasir, klebang and bukit beruang ones?

Sorry boss...i dun have it with me now.

will try to take some this few days as i'm in malacca now for long holiday...kekekeke

teckkang
April 30th, 2007, 12:07 PM
:) nvm, me too, not in Melaka right now. looking forward for summer holidays as i will be goin back to malaysia. will certainly get lots of photos of melaka. :)

neversaynever
April 30th, 2007, 02:37 PM
:) nvm, me too, not in Melaka right now. looking forward for summer holidays as i will be goin back to malaysia. will certainly get lots of photos of melaka. :)

Just posted some Melaka's photo at http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=152204&page=21

Melaka Raya is there this time :P

go check it out

kurakura
April 30th, 2007, 07:46 PM
Ipoh lah. Serene with all the hills and mountains.:banana:

teckkang
May 1st, 2007, 10:26 AM
Just posted some Melaka's photo at http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=152204&page=21

Melaka Raya is there this time :P

go check it out

great job. love the views from Pulau Melaka. :cheers:
Hope to see more skyscrapers mushrooming up along Melaka Raya coast.

cng1974
May 2nd, 2007, 07:17 AM
To me Ipoh is the city is quite special with hills surrounding the city which very different from other cities in Malaysia. You can notice the nice view when you head down towards KL direction from the Tunnel of Plus Highway. Furthermore, Ipoh is also one of the cleanest city in Malaysia..
My Top 10 list:

1. KL
2. Penang
3. JB
4. Ipoh
5. PJ
6. Kuching
7. KK
8. Kuantan
9. Malacca
10. Seremban

James Foong
May 3rd, 2007, 04:32 PM
Thats rite. Ipoh has a nice backdrop of hills, and i enjoy looking at it. The skyline however is rather bored to me.

brain_failure
May 4th, 2007, 02:13 AM
In my opinion, Ipoh shouldnt be in top 5. The skyline of Kuching, KK, Melaka, PJ and even kuantan is far better than Ipoh. Seremban is fast catching up.

slby
May 4th, 2007, 07:52 AM
I think it's very hard to judge about skyline. Personally, i don't think the more highrises, the better, but it depends on the "beauty" of how the buildings are arranged. Sometimes, with more mid-rises and low-rises tidily arranged, it looks better than many chaotic highrises put together.

adiyon84
May 4th, 2007, 10:48 AM
I think it's very hard to judge about skyline. Personally, i don't think the more highrises, the better, but it depends on the "beauty" of how the buildings are arranged. Sometimes, with more mid-rises and low-rises tidily arranged, it looks better than many chaotic highrises put together.

yup.. i agree with slby about the city skyline. If u look to the JB skyline (example), even though the building looks very nice and TALL in the sky... but the city is not wide enough... i mean the city areas, only that place were developed... same to Melaka, Kota Bharu, Seremban or even Kuching/Kota Kinabalu for example..

but it is different in Ipoh.. even the Ipoh city doesn't have many tall buildings, but the areas of Ipoh are really BIG and LARGE in terms of the coverage..

so we cannot judge the meaning of skyline itself.. :cheers:

kurakura
May 4th, 2007, 02:25 PM
^^ Ipoh is big and wide partly because it is one of the old 'main' cities....JB,KK,Seremban and other secondary cities last time are cathing up and even surpassed Ipoh.

If the circumtances were right, Ipoh should be right there with JB or Penang.
However, it lost its shine after the tin mines are depleted. Penang managed to chug on because of tourism, its good access to the sea(spur industry).
KL shot up because it was made into the capital and the access to sea is not that far compared to Ipoh. JB...well...its the Singapore effect. Without Singapore, JB will be more dead than Ipoh. Seremban meanwhile enjoys the money from locals working in KL and also due to its proximity to the capital.

2 cents.

dwinz
May 4th, 2007, 04:48 PM
^^ Ipoh is big and wide partly because it is one of the old 'main' cities....JB,KK,Seremban and other secondary cities last time are cathing up and even surpassed Ipoh.

If the circumtances were right, Ipoh should be right there with JB or Penang.
However, it lost its shine after the tin mines are depleted. Penang managed to chug on because of tourism, its good access to the sea(spur industry).
KL shot up because it was made into the capital and the access to sea is not that far compared to Ipoh. JB...well...its the Singapore effect. Without Singapore, JB will be more dead than Ipoh. Seremban meanwhile enjoys the money from locals working in KL and also due to its proximity to the capital.

2 cents.

How bout Kuching and KK? because they are the capitals for their respective state :D

Actually if u see Kuching properly Kuching is a very very wide spread city. You'll be surprised Kuching is not just confined into a small area but the city is really spread out.:cheers1:

brain_failure
May 4th, 2007, 05:37 PM
yup.. i agree with slby about the city skyline. If u look to the JB skyline (example), even though the building looks very nice and TALL in the sky... but the city is not wide enough... i mean the city areas, only that place were developed... same to Melaka, Kota Bharu, Seremban or even Kuching/Kota Kinabalu for example..

but it is different in Ipoh.. even the Ipoh city doesn't have many tall buildings, but the areas of Ipoh are really BIG and LARGE in terms of the coverage..

so we cannot judge the meaning of skyline itself.. :cheers:

nt quite sure about tat, but many of my frens visited ipoh gv d same comment...they

brain_failure
May 4th, 2007, 05:37 PM
yup.. i agree with slby about the city skyline. If u look to the JB skyline (example), even though the building looks very nice and TALL in the sky... but the city is not wide enough... i mean the city areas, only that place were developed... same to Melaka, Kota Bharu, Seremban or even Kuching/Kota Kinabalu for example..

but it is different in Ipoh.. even the Ipoh city doesn't have many tall buildings, but the areas of Ipoh are really BIG and LARGE in terms of the coverage..

so we cannot judge the meaning of skyline itself.. :cheers:

nt quite sure about tat, but many of my frens visited ipoh gv d same comment...they say ipoh is

brain_failure
May 4th, 2007, 05:37 PM
yup.. i agree with slby about the city skyline. If u look to the JB skyline (example), even though the building looks very nice and TALL in the sky... but the city is not wide enough... i mean the city areas, only that place were developed... same to Melaka, Kota Bharu, Seremban or even Kuching/Kota Kinabalu for example..

but it is different in Ipoh.. even the Ipoh city doesn't have many tall buildings, but the areas of Ipoh are really BIG and LARGE in terms of the coverage..

so we cannot judge the meaning of skyline itself.. :cheers:

nt quite sure about tat, but many of my frens visited ipoh gv d same comment...they say ipoh is not

brain_failure
May 4th, 2007, 05:38 PM
yup.. i agree with slby about the city skyline. If u look to the JB skyline (example), even though the building looks very nice and TALL in the sky... but the city is not wide enough... i mean the city areas, only that place were developed... same to Melaka, Kota Bharu, Seremban or even Kuching/Kota Kinabalu for example..

but it is different in Ipoh.. even the Ipoh city doesn't have many tall buildings, but the areas of Ipoh are really BIG and LARGE in terms of the coverage..

so we cannot judge the meaning of skyline itself.. :cheers:

nt quite sure about tat, but many of my frens visited ipoh gv d same comment...they say

brain_failure
May 4th, 2007, 05:38 PM
yup.. i agree with slby about the city skyline. If u look to the JB skyline (example), even though the building looks very nice and TALL in the sky... but the city is not wide enough... i mean the city areas, only that place were developed... same to Melaka, Kota Bharu, Seremban or even Kuching/Kota Kinabalu for example..

but it is different in Ipoh.. even the Ipoh city doesn't have many tall buildings, but the areas of Ipoh are really BIG and LARGE in terms of the coverage..

so we cannot judge the meaning of skyline itself.. :cheers:

nt quite sure about tat, but many of my frens visited ipoh gv d same comment...they say ipoh

brain_failure
May 4th, 2007, 05:54 PM
yup.. i agree with slby about the city skyline. If u look to the JB skyline (example), even though the building looks very nice and TALL in the sky... but the city is not wide enough... i mean the city areas, only that place were developed... same to Melaka, Kota Bharu, Seremban or even Kuching/Kota Kinabalu for example..

but it is different in Ipoh.. even the Ipoh city doesn't have many tall buildings, but the areas of Ipoh are really BIG and LARGE in terms of the coverage..

so we cannot judge the meaning of skyline itself.. :cheers:

nt quite sure about tat, but many of my frens visited ipoh gv d same comment...they say ipoh is not big actually, so i donno whether it is true. They also said that ipoh is no different now n 10 yrs ago, development is very slow. Nonetheless i still like ipoh being surrounded by beautiful hills. I agree that development may not be good as it may spoilt d charm of the city.
But i feel that if Ipoh's development is still as slow as now and yesteryears, while all other cities in malaysia keep moving forward, then Ipoh will one day bcum a secondary town, a cowboy town of malaysia. Penang, KL, JB r far ahead. Kuching, KK, Melaka surpassed Ipoh now. Kuantan n Seremban catching up fast, while Alor Star, KT and KB and other secondary town eg Sungai Petani, Muar, Batu Pahat, Miri etc r developing in a faster pace may 1 day overtake Ipoh.
I think development is a must in Ipoh, but let it happen outside Ipoh n not in the middle of the town which may spoilt d charm of the old town. Am glad that there r few hotel projects or tourism projects being developed nw. Hope that d development will continue

dwinz
May 5th, 2007, 04:22 AM
nt quite sure about tat, but many of my frens visited ipoh gv d same comment...they say ipoh is not big actually, so i donno whether it is true. They also said that ipoh is no different now n 10 yrs ago, development is very slow. Nonetheless i still like ipoh being surrounded by beautiful hills. I agree that development may not be good as it may spoilt d charm of the city.
But i feel that if Ipoh's development is still as slow as now and yesteryears, while all other cities in malaysia keep moving forward, then Ipoh will one day bcum a secondary town, a cowboy town of malaysia. Penang, KL, JB r far ahead. Kuching, KK, Melaka surpassed Ipoh now. Kuantan n Seremban catching up fast, while Alor Star, KT and KB and other secondary town eg Sungai Petani, Muar, Batu Pahat, Miri etc r developing in a faster pace may 1 day overtake Ipoh.
I think development is a must in Ipoh, but let it happen outside Ipoh n not in the middle of the town which may spoilt d charm of the old town. Am glad that there r few hotel projects or tourism projects being developed nw. Hope that d development will continue


Don worry Ipoh might catch up soon:D

dwinz
May 5th, 2007, 12:08 PM
Kuching
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r72/dwinzz/PICT0076.jpg
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r72/dwinzz/PICT0077.jpg
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r72/dwinzz/PICT0080.jpg
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r72/dwinzz/PICT0069.jpg
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r72/dwinzz/PICT0070.jpg
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r72/dwinzz/PICT0067.jpg

globocentric
May 5th, 2007, 11:07 PM
nt quite sure about tat, but many of my frens visited ipoh gv d same comment...they say ipoh is not big actually, so i donno whether it is true. They also said that ipoh is no different now n 10 yrs ago, development is very slow. Nonetheless i still like ipoh being surrounded by beautiful hills. I agree that development may not be good as it may spoilt d charm of the city.
But i feel that if Ipoh's development is still as slow as now and yesteryears, while all other cities in malaysia keep moving forward, then Ipoh will one day bcum a secondary town, a cowboy town of malaysia. Penang, KL, JB r far ahead. Kuching, KK, Melaka surpassed Ipoh now. Kuantan n Seremban catching up fast, while Alor Star, KT and KB and other secondary town eg Sungai Petani, Muar, Batu Pahat, Miri etc r developing in a faster pace may 1 day overtake Ipoh.
I think development is a must in Ipoh, but let it happen outside Ipoh n not in the middle of the town which may spoilt d charm of the old town. Am glad that there r few hotel projects or tourism projects being developed nw. Hope that d development will continue

Yes fully agreed. The development of Ipoh has stagnated for quite some time. In fact, many graduates from Ipoh are moving to either KL or Penang becuase they cannot get jobs. Ipoh loses out big time when it comes to accessibility. It cannot attract industries because the whole state doesnt have a port. It doesnt have the skilled labour needed either. It has very little tourism potential as well. How many foreign tourist does Ipoh get? The airport itself receives no more than 5 flights a day and i wont be surprised if the federal government close it down completely. The whole Perak state willl be in a sorry state economically in the next few decades if something drastic is not done to rejuvenate it

kurakura
May 5th, 2007, 11:53 PM
Yes fully agreed. The development of Ipoh has stagnated for quite some time. In fact, many graduates from Ipoh are moving to either KL or Penang becuase they cannot get jobs. Ipoh loses out big time when it comes to accessibility. It cannot attract industries because the whole state doesnt have a port. It doesnt have the skilled labour needed either. It has very little tourism potential as well. How many foreign tourist does Ipoh get? The airport itself receives no more than 5 flights a day and i wont be surprised if the federal government close it down completely. The whole Perak state willl be in a sorry state economically in the next few decades if something drastic is not done to rejuvenate it

The airport has less than 5 flights a day.:lol:

Anyway, I would rather if Ipoh stays the way it is. Just want the government to have more parks and better public transport, better cleaniless, less crime, more walkways, etc etc.

There are alot of skilled labour. The best schools and students are consistently from Ipoh. Its just that most went elsewhere like you said.
Ipoh can be really crowded during festive times when the actual population is back.:banana:

Besides Ipoh's mountains, I think Penang gurney drive has an awesome skyline.

garzland
June 25th, 2007, 02:09 PM
Malaysian cities are clean!

I would love to visit them all someday....

Magician
June 26th, 2007, 02:26 AM
Malaysian cities are clean!

I would love to visit them all someday....

I don't mean to spoil your impression on Malaysia and I don't mean to spoil Malaysia's image as well...

Only certain cities are clean, e.g. those in East Malaysia... other bigger cities in Penisular may not be as clean as you thought to be...:ohno:

cooltemper
June 26th, 2007, 02:46 AM
That is true.

Arkdriver
June 26th, 2007, 06:52 AM
Malaysian cities are clean!

I would love to visit them all someday....

Pare they dont know how polluted Manila is. Yes in Malaysia not every city is clean but all of them are better than towns and cities in pinas.

Makati is clean, except in areas around Magallanes. Muntinlupa is clean. Quezon Avenue is a little bit disappointing.

nazrey
November 7th, 2008, 02:30 AM
Update:
My Favourite skyline in Malaysia (2008)
Top 20

1 KL
2 Penang
3 JB
4 Putrajaya
5 Kuching
6 KK
7 Labuan
8 PJ
9 Labuan
10 Melaka
11 AS
12 Kuantan
13 Ipoh
14 Shah Alam
15 KT
16 KB
17 Sibu
18 Sandakan
19 Miri
20 Seremban

My Favourite town in Malaysia
Top 20

1 Cyberjaya
2 Proton City
3 Lumut
4 Sibu
5 Sandakan
6 Miri
7 USJ Subang Jaya
8 Butterworth
9 Bintulu
10 Kuah
11 Tawau
12 Kuala Kangsar
13 Kampar
14 Kangar
15 Kluang
16 Mukah
17 Kudat
18 Muar
19 Sarikei
20 Kuala Lipis

aniqasyranie
November 7th, 2008, 04:42 AM
^^nape labuan ade 2?

Zulhelmi
November 7th, 2008, 05:39 AM
Alright, for those who never really see what Alor Star looks like...

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1083/1139208588_ffc3346112_o.jpg
The best view ever!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3045/2941212583_fc5fb63fff.jpg?v=0
View from Menara Tanjung Chali (located by the river) in Pekan Cina.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3010/2941212593_1eabd1c47f.jpg?v=0
A bigger view.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3234/2941149227_69be3f8e28.jpg?v=0
Night view from Menara Alor Star, overlooking Jalan Putra.

http://img85.echo.cx/img85/8443/445861005uz.jpg
View from Ampang Jajar, an old one. Now it is prolly the best view!

The above are from past years.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3159/2671022982_3050b24c31_o.jpg
Took this one myself from Menara Alor Star overlooking which I think the CBD area.

Riverofmoltensteel
November 7th, 2008, 07:58 AM
My list for 2008
1. Kuala Lumpur (Master , no competition, even when danga bay comes)
2. Penang (Coming up :))
3. Johor Bahru (Will probably beat penang, unless Penang suddenly gets a huge waterfront project)
4. Putrajaya (Becoming one of the better skylines)
5. Shah alam
5. ((Shared)) Petaling Jaya (pretty strong, nearest competition is shah alam
6. Kuching (Kawaii, but boring, but will have convention center :D)
7. Klang (Rather nice)
8. Melaka (pretty good, needs some spice)
9. Labuan (Kawaii too!)
10. Kota Kinabalu (Kute... But nothing much)

Rivalries
Intercity (Irrelevant)
KL-Singapore (First)
KL-Bangkok-Jakarta-Metro Manila (Secondary, pretty good rivalry)

Domestic Rivalries
Penang-Johor (Toughest out of all probably):Penang
Shah Alam-Petalling Jaya (a competitive skyline):PJ
Kuching-KK (Quite hard):Kuching

*Add more rivalries if you like :)
*There are some cities I haven't been to, so I cant really make a full list :(

kiko
November 7th, 2008, 09:49 AM
Well, here are my top 10 choice..

1. KL (no doubt bout it)
2. Penang
3. JB
4. Kch
5. Petaling Jaya
6. KK
7. Ipoh
8. Melaka
9. Shah alam
10.Putrajaya (most of it are low rises with below 15th floors)

Btw, here are some of the latest pics of kuching. ive post some last time...:)

http://i.pbase.com/o4/64/707064/1/102728265.Y7WYHGoe.DSC02922_Resized.JPG

http://i.pbase.com/o4/64/707064/1/102728266.JoiYt0tQ.DSC02923_Resized.JPG

teckkang
November 7th, 2008, 02:25 PM
My fauvorite 10 skylines

1) KL (no doubt)
2) Georgetown
3) JB
4) Melaka
Melaka Raya coastal skyline
http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/4910/dpp0040yx2.jpg
5) PJ
6) KK
7) Kuching
8) Kota Bahru
9) Shah Alam
10) Sibu

adiyon84
November 8th, 2008, 06:08 AM
Hi guys, just to drop a message and remind us back about this Ipoh city skyline pic, 10years ago. Latest pic I dont have it yet. Hehe..

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f173/adiyon84/BandarIpoh2.jpg

nazrey
November 8th, 2008, 06:25 AM
I can see Ipoh railway station as its impressive!

zhuhai.iph
November 8th, 2008, 01:52 PM
Having been spending life in Tokyo, Shanghai, Shenzhen, Kunming, Hangzhou and been travelled to all states in West and East Malaysia.

My Favourite Cities and Towns in Malaysia
Top 20

1 Ipoh
2 Penang
3 Pangkor/Lumut
4 Cameron Highlands
5 Taiping
6 Butterworth
7 Melaka
8 Teluk Intan
9 Seremban
10 Port Dickson
11 Kuantan
12 Kuching
13 Kota Kinabalu
14 Kluang
15 Segamat

TYW
November 9th, 2008, 10:02 AM
^^ very interesting an unorthodox list there... care to give some comments on each cities?

teckkang
November 9th, 2008, 03:58 PM
Having been spending life in Tokyo, Shanghai, Shenzhen, Kunming, Hangzhou and been travelled to all states in West and East Malaysia.

My Favourite Cities and Towns in Malaysia
Top 20

1 Ipoh
2 Penang
3 Pangkor/Lumut
4 Cameron Highlands
5 Taiping
6 Butterworth
7 Melaka
8 Teluk Intan
9 Seremban
10 Port Dickson
11 Kuantan
12 Kuching
13 Kota Kinabalu
14 Kluang
15 Segamat

I like to hear your comments on quality of skyline of each city you voted. :)

he_ther
November 9th, 2008, 05:06 PM
Top 5

1.Kl
2.Penang
3.JB
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/7825/jbho3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

4.Kuching
5.Pj

Riverofmoltensteel
November 9th, 2008, 09:52 PM
Having been spending life in Tokyo, Shanghai, Shenzhen, Kunming, Hangzhou and been travelled to all states in West and East Malaysia.

My Favourite Cities and Towns in Malaysia
Top 20

1 Ipoh
2 Penang
3 Pangkor/Lumut
4 Cameron Highlands
5 Taiping
6 Butterworth
7 Melaka
8 Teluk Intan
9 Seremban
10 Port Dickson
11 Kuantan
12 Kuching
13 Kota Kinabalu
14 Kluang
15 Segamat

I'm suprised that the only city with its deserving spot was Penang...:lol:
I actually like enjoy seeing a person who puts out his opinion, explain more :)
You mean "Favorite" city right?

Magician
November 10th, 2008, 01:44 AM
Having been spending life in Tokyo, Shanghai, Shenzhen, Kunming, Hangzhou and been travelled to all states in West and East Malaysia.

My Favourite Cities and Towns in Malaysia
Top 20

1 Ipoh
2 Penang
3 Pangkor/Lumut
4 Cameron Highlands
5 Taiping
6 Butterworth
7 Melaka
8 Teluk Intan
9 Seremban
10 Port Dickson
11 Kuantan
12 Kuching
13 Kota Kinabalu
14 Kluang
15 Segamat

Mind to share your reasons of putting up this list??? Really love to know! Maybe we miss out things that you have seen but we don't!

rizalhakim
November 10th, 2008, 04:34 AM
eventot mont kiara is not a city but ill vote dat area as no.2...or maybe no.3 after png... mont kiara the town condos...

pen
November 15th, 2008, 01:48 PM
Penang Skyline
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff227/jeff1983/091120082480.jpg

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff227/jeff1983/091120082484.jpg

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff227/jeff1983/091120082486.jpg

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff227/jeff1983/091120082493.jpg

nazrey
November 15th, 2008, 01:53 PM
Wow..the last pic was also really promise view?

Ampelio
November 16th, 2008, 05:13 AM
Recent Kuching... Future Kuching... should be in the top list :okay:

valths
November 16th, 2008, 08:43 AM
Sibu Skyline

http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr170/valths/SibuTownView01.jpg

Magician
November 17th, 2008, 01:38 AM
Penang Skyline
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff227/jeff1983/091120082493.jpg

Do people actually swim there???

Is the water clean?:)

EricOng
November 17th, 2008, 08:18 AM
My Favourite Skyline:

1. Kuala Lumpur Metro, KL
2. Georgetown, Penang
3. Gurney Drive, Penang
4. Johor Bahru, Johore
5. Petaling Jaya, Selangor
6. Kuching, Sarawak
7. Butterworth, Penang
8. Malacca, Melaka
9. Kota Kinabalu, Sabah
10. Shah Alam, Selangor

rizalhakim
November 17th, 2008, 08:19 AM
Mont Kiara shud be in top 5 or top 3

Jubilee
November 17th, 2008, 09:52 AM
My malaysian best skyline now!

1 KL
2 Penang
3 JB
4 Putrajaya
5 PJ.....my hometown:)
6 KK
7 Shah Alam
8 Kuching
9 Malacca
10 Ipoh

2206
November 17th, 2008, 09:58 AM
K O T A _K I N A B A L U - A TROPICANA CITY framed by the serene tropical islands in South China Sea and the majestic MOUNT KINABALU.

by The Living Albums
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3075/2894200945_46d2542145_b.jpg

http://www.mysabah.com/images/2008/20080902_7-big.jpg

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/4004/photo0001aax1.jpg

by sipaun
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3182/2811293161_13b93a15d2_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3016/2815544959_2ee9b7f396_b.jpg

by zaidi65
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/6825/299363231404b883b16acqi1.jpg

photos by charlie76
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/2051/charliegp6.jpg

TYW
November 18th, 2008, 05:57 PM
since suburbs are now getting their way to the list, i think Tanjung Bungah deserves a spot...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3230/2894856862_dc033e4c84_b.jpg

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/1544/lighting2da0.jpg


and probably Bukit Jambul / Bayan Baru as well

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/7869/974630068349c79fb1ebaj4.jpg

EricOng
November 21st, 2008, 01:44 AM
There are in fact plenty of suburbs in Penang which receives plenty of high-rises especially after Georgetown are not allowed to build buildings exceeding 5 storeys.

rizalhakim
November 26th, 2008, 07:38 AM
Mont Kiara shud be no2 or no3 after KL and Png

by LINCOLNOSE2®

part of Kuala Lumpur

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3141/2382993980_d21ae55ea9_o.jpg

http://www.indigovision.com/news/images/Mont-Kiara-PR-med.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b283/szehoong/Mont%20Kiara/Mont%20Kiara%20Skyline%20from%20Batu%20Caves/IMG_6835sm.jpg
by szehoong in 2006...imagine it now?

http://www.disini.net/info/streetview/UserFiles/Image/persimpangan%20mont%20kiara%20exit2302-final.jpg

http://img28.picoodle.com/img/img28/4/2/12/f_02m_d9f1bb5.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d163/picaddict_1975/Hartamas%20Mont%20kiara/IMG_0823.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/170/443325331_e56863f210_o.jpg

http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/4/4/13/f_07m_52fe9f4.jpg



now with over 30 more projects (under construction & proposed), imagine the cool mont kiara will be in the future!!!

argory
November 26th, 2008, 08:10 AM
If suburbs count...

Parts of PJ
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1062/947303225_5873962d2d_b.jpg

Subang Jaya - Summit (more buildings being added to this cluster)
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1339/1346632544_c8cfa6e5e1_b.jpg

LOVE KL
November 27th, 2008, 11:05 AM
Too bad Mont Kiara is not a city.

CARJON
November 30th, 2008, 09:10 AM
my hometown is kuching, I stay in JB more than 4 years. I went to KL, KK, PENANG once a year. most of the the city in my list ,is the cities I have been there.

FOR CITY WITH 1 MILLION POPULATION AND NICE SKYLINE TOP FIVE:
1 KUALA LUMPUR
2 PENANG
3 PETALING JAYA
4 SUBANG JAYA
5 JOHOR BAHRU

FOR CITY MORE THAN HALF MILLION POPULATION AND NICE SKYLINE TOP FIVE:
1 KUCHING (630,000 POPULATION and area 431 square kilometer)
2 KOTA KINABALU
3 MELAKA
4 KLANG
5 SHAH ALAM

teckkang
November 30th, 2008, 11:32 AM
my hometown is kuching, I stay in JB more than 4 years. I went to KL, KK, PENANG once a year. most of the the city in my list ,is the cities I have been there.

FOR CITY WITH 1 MILLION POPULATION AND NICE SKYLINE TOP FIVE:
1 KUALA LUMPUR
2 PENANG
3 PETALING JAYA
4 SUBANG JAYA
5 JOHOR BAHRU

FOR CITY MORE THAN HALF MILLION POPULATION AND NICE SKYLINE TOP FIVE:
1 KUCHING (630,000 POPULATION and area 431 square kilometer)
2 KOTA KINABALU
3 MELAKA
4 KLANG
5 SHAH ALAM

Melaka city urban area population is just above 400k. :)

Pablo
November 30th, 2008, 12:01 PM
Do people actually swim there???

Is the water clean?:)

is horrible...no idea y they swim inside...i doubt they are the workers at the construction site..

daeng_jal
November 30th, 2008, 11:34 PM
Melaka city urban area population is just above 400k. :)

stating that, it will not be fair. as JB >1mil population derive from all of IDR(All of urban,kampung and ladang pop),which is 1.5times the area of malacca. so it only fair to included all of her 900k population. and like penang included SP and kulim as part of their metro,then melaka too Should included the border town of tampin,tangkak and muar.(The endline for malacca bus service,its just 20minites from here,and a lot of them work and shop here). with this the figure for 'metro' area around 1.3-.4mil.:-D i think this is a fair comparison as the 3 'metro area' is around 2000 ++ sq/Km. with this ipoh too is a million populated city.(Big, beautiful city but poor skyline,:-( don't know why?). not sure about KK and kuching,maybe s'one can fill it up.

2206
December 1st, 2008, 05:33 AM
Sabah Urban Development Corporation

http://sudc.com.my/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/pg_kampung-air-2007.jpg

CARJON
December 1st, 2008, 05:54 AM
sorry!
this is my adjusted top 10 city ranking. (in term of skyline)

1. kuala lumpur
2. penang
3. petaling jaya
4. johor bahru
5. subang jaya
6. melaka
7. kuching
7. kota kinabalu
9. klang
10. shah alam

Next 5 to 10 years,our top 10 city ranking will be all in KLANG VALLEY

valths
December 1st, 2008, 07:58 AM
sorry!
this is my adjusted top 10 city ranking. (in term of skyline)

1. kuala lumpur
2. penang
3. petaling jaya
4. johor bahru
5. subang jaya
6. melaka
7. kuching
7. kota kinabalu
9. klang
10. shah alam

Next 5 to 10 years,our top 10 city ranking will be all in KLANG VALLEY

I agree that, all the money to build high rise in Klang Valley is coming from Malaysia Richest state---Sarawak OIL.

James Foong
December 1st, 2008, 03:16 PM
I agree that, all the money to build high rise in Klang Valley is coming from Malaysia Richest state---Sarawak OIL.

^^ you d better ask yourself million times again with that conclusion. i could only think of dayabumi n petronas towers might hv some sarawak oil contribution. besides, doesnt oil is a national asset?

daeng_jal
December 1st, 2008, 05:45 PM
actually james,if you factor in the fact that the heavy machinery used to build the building,transport the material used, use cheap oil,the gas that run the powerplant that eventually run the building.the cheap oil, the car that the building resident used.the money used to build the infra,like road,powergrid and telecomunication. are all build and maintaine by oil that the KV had none off. saying it as a national asset doesnt justified it, as the reason to federate is to acchive better that what an individual state can achieve(Think alliences,where a win-win situation will occur.like SIA,thaiairlines and the star alliences) so if a state is now worse off.than what it can achieve on its own,alone....then.....?.it not to late for a new formula should be draw out to correct the situation.

kiko
December 2nd, 2008, 02:17 AM
haha....well, i agree with some facts daeng jal stated. If we look at it at a wide view, oil and gas which mostly come from sarawak (which has the largest available stock in the country) has contribute so much to the development in west msia. Offcourse it was a national asset, but the federal should has been more fairer when it comes to distribution of development. An oil rich state add with log revenue should has been much more developed then other states which contribute only from the tax from the industrial sector

pedang
December 2nd, 2008, 02:29 AM
^^ hey, pls dont forget TRG ;)

CARJON
December 2nd, 2008, 02:57 AM
^^ you d better ask yourself million times again with that conclusion. i could only think of dayabumi n petronas towers might hv some sarawak oil contribution. besides, doesnt oil is a national asset?


i dont want to discuss oil issue. too sensitive. last time my johor college classmate also complaint, government not so fair , he said " vision 2020" is only for klang valley. he said fortunately johor is near singapore otherwise no development at all. by the way i dont want ague here. stop comment oil issue.

Zulhelmi
December 2nd, 2008, 05:45 AM
i dont want to discuss oil issue. too sensitive. last time my johor college classmate also complaint, government not so fair , he said " vision 2020" is only for klang valley. he said fortunately johor is near singapore otherwise no development at all. by the way i dont want ague here. stop comment oil issue.
Yeah... It's not fair that all the other states are given with these so-called development corridors but Klang Valley still has the best and most complete infrastructures, and the primate development area.

These development corridors are really just part of the recent election campaign. Except Iskandar Development Region where we can see a lot of things going on there. I felt sorry for the people of East Coast and Northern regions. We have been given nothing but false hopes.

teckkang
December 2nd, 2008, 09:53 AM
stating that, it will not be fair. as JB >1mil population derive from all of IDR(All of urban,kampung and ladang pop),which is 1.5times the area of malacca. so it only fair to included all of her 900k population. and like penang included SP and kulim as part of their metro,then melaka too Should included the border town of tampin,tangkak and muar.(The endline for malacca bus service,its just 20minites from here,and a lot of them work and shop here). with this the figure for 'metro' area around 1.3-.4mil.:-D i think this is a fair comparison as the 3 'metro area' is around 2000 ++ sq/Km. with this ipoh too is a million populated city.(Big, beautiful city but poor skyline,:-( don't know why?). not sure about KK and kuching,maybe s'one can fill it up.

but i really doubt bordering towns of other states will influence much on melaka city development given that you have to ride on lousy bus services for half-an-hour to 45 minutes to Melaka city.

James Foong
December 2nd, 2008, 01:13 PM
actually james,if you factor in the fact that the heavy machinery used to build the building,transport the material used, use cheap oil,the gas that run the powerplant that eventually run the building.the cheap oil, the car that the building resident used.the money used to build the infra,like road,powergrid and telecomunication. are all build and maintaine by oil that the KV had none off. saying it as a national asset doesnt justified it, as the reason to federate is to acchive better that what an individual state can achieve(Think alliences,where a win-win situation will occur.like SIA,thaiairlines and the star alliences) so if a state is now worse off.than what it can achieve on its own,alone....then.....?.it not to late for a new formula should be draw out to correct the situation.

i hv no problem with oil issue, only if you carefully read his post again..

I agree that, all the money to build high rise in Klang Valley is coming from Malaysia Richest state---Sarawak OIL.

or put it simply; sarawak state oil revenues finance ALL high rise bldgs in klang valley. making sense?

daeng_jal
December 2nd, 2008, 04:08 PM
but i really doubt bordering towns of other states will influence much on melaka city development given that you have to ride on lousy bus services for half-an-hour to 45 minutes to Melaka city.

amazingly with the lausy bus ride,the kids there spend their weekends here. and the car ride is just 20minutes. and if you drive along AMJ expressway in the morning,along the way. from muar to tampin. there's a lot car coming to the city.

daeng_jal
December 2nd, 2008, 04:30 PM
well, its not just sarawak and terenggnu. malaccan,johorian and penagnite also paid lots of tax to the fed. but the fed expenditure in these states is not even half of it receive.i found an interesting article some time ago. for every $1 the US fed take from NYC, $0.85 is spend back to the city. i'm not saying that we shouldn't share our wealth,i'm ok if it goes to other underdevelop state. but KV.:( ?. i don't know why Mahathir had used all energy and money to make KL a showcase capital maybe he want the foreigner to be terperanjat and malaysian can be proud off.or maybe he,sengaja make a city so great,before allowing other to race to keep up.like how he allowed PTT tower 1,to start 1st b4 releasing tower 2,which run with all they had:D

CARJON
December 4th, 2008, 04:52 AM
i hv no problem with oil issue, only if you carefully read his post again..



or put it simply; sarawak state oil revenues finance ALL high rise bldgs in klang valley. making sense?

i am sarawakian. i can understand why he or she said like that. in fact, federal government took 95% of sarawak natural gas and oil and also timber revenue for west malaysia development. 5% left for sarawak government development. it is a huge amount. actually we do not mind federal government take the revenue for development, but the ratio not so fair. in personal, while we go for study in west malaysia, most of the west malaysian very proud of their development. they always feel ,sarawak and sabah people all stay in jungle. in our mind it is very ironic " we contribute so many money for west malaysia development, why west malaysian want to look down us". i admit we are too emotion, but we got reason. we feel unfair. I know sarawak has less population. difficult for economic development. but at least federal government need to take care our infustructure. until now we still dont have proper highway. only two lane carriage way. these is very important for us.

James Foong
December 4th, 2008, 02:59 PM
i am sarawakian. i can understand why he or she said like that. in fact, federal government took 95% of sarawak natural gas and oil and also timber revenue for west malaysia development. 5% left for sarawak government development. it is a huge amount. actually we do not mind federal government take the revenue for development, but the ratio not so fair. in personal, while we go for study in west malaysia, most of the west malaysian very proud of their development. they always feel ,sarawak and sabah people all stay in jungle. in our mind it is very ironic " we contribute so many money for west malaysia development, why west malaysian want to look down us". i admit we are too emotion, but we got reason. we feel unfair. I know sarawak has less population. difficult for economic development. but at least federal government need to take care our infustructure. until now we still dont have proper highway. only two lane carriage way. these is very important for us.

this is why our poor PM has so many corridors launched, so that the distribution of developments can reach everyone. But the problem is the implementation. We have deep cut internal affairs going on, public servants and officials r not getting the clear direction of corridor ideas, politicians r too busy with own agenda, and some make the corridor a foolish cheap product by lump everything launched/proposed as part of corridor plan, regardless it has anything to do with the corridor objectives.

as to unfair development to the east malaysia, i do agree with your case. we r literally poor on managing wealth, compounded by bad cases of high power political double standard to other states. but at least, you can still count on the oil loyalties, where almost rm880 millions r paid to sabah n sarawak last year alone. thing is wouldnt it is good to question first how these state govt. are managing with the money, before justifiedly asking for bigger fund?

MALAYSIAN
December 4th, 2008, 06:16 PM
wow:nuts:

daeng_jal
December 4th, 2008, 08:36 PM
actually to be fair,the fed is not to be blame alone,the state should ae blame to as most fail to play it part. the fed expenditure is dictated by EPU whose done the economic impact on each project. with money being limited they would only fund project that have the biggest economically impact..its up to the state efford to plan, proposed & confience the fed that the particular project capability to increase the economy. for example malacca had to prove with numbers the projected tourist,airlines interested and the impact on hotels,private hospital,and no of job created.basicly the overall impact before the fed approave the airport expansion...i comletely apose developing just for the sake of development..and the we built it they will come attitude .but for me some state gov are too:( they do not plan a viable project,instead they propose project that are huge,expensive,angan2 project...like former perak MB wants a huge airport with 2 runway in ipoh....and his plan for a spacehub with spaceshuttle some more....or the state are unable to think of a simple,low cost yet huge in it impact that they can do it on their own... and.a good example is with huge land and small population,sabah are only 30% sufficience in rice production...to plant padi and food does not need huge fed funding....and why wanna built a lot of gas and coal powerplant when theres a lot of river there that could supply cheap,clean hidropower.....no offence sabahan and perakian:P.i do not know why a country 10times the neitherland,situated in the tropic with lots of water and sunshine.can't even feed its citizen let alone an agricultural supepower....but a small,swarm infested,cold weather neitherland can. we need more CM like pg 2nd primier and sarawak current CM,and to some extance my current CM.

walking_coffee
December 5th, 2008, 04:11 AM
I'm sorry to bother your extremely interesting arguments here, but aren't we supposed to be discussing about skylines, and not the issues of imbalanced and unequal redistribution of federal wealth and assistance?

If you think the Klang Valley vs the rest of the federation is bad, consider Jakarta vs the rest of Indonesia, or even Bangkok vs the rest of Thailand. At least in Malaysia, while I do admit there are significant imbalances, with the Klang Vally literally monopolizing development and raking in the wealth; the peripheries of Penang, Johor Bahru, Kuching and Kota Kinabalu are not entirely forgotten, despite the comparatively smaller population to Greater Kuala Lumpur-Klang Valley.

Concentrating development to one area in a way assists developing and managing economic and industrial development, where you just concentrate on building 'commuter areas' and a major 'core,' easing planning. Yet in the same vein, this also causes immense power imbalances and disgruntlement in other areas.

So, might I suggest we return to the original intention of the thread?

CARJON
December 5th, 2008, 07:16 AM
I'm sorry to bother your extremely interesting arguments here, but aren't we supposed to be discussing about skylines, and not the issues of imbalanced and unequal redistribution of federal wealth and assistance?

If you think the Klang Valley vs the rest of the federation is bad, consider Jakarta vs the rest of Indonesia, or even Bangkok vs the rest of Thailand. At least in Malaysia, while I do admit there are significant imbalances, with the Klang Vally literally monopolizing development and raking in the wealth; the peripheries of Penang, Johor Bahru, Kuching and Kota Kinabalu are not entirely forgotten, despite the comparatively smaller population to Greater Kuala Lumpur-Klang Valley.

Concentrating development to one area in a way assists developing and managing economic and industrial development, where you just concentrate on building 'commuter areas' and a major 'core,' easing planning. Yet in the same vein, this also causes immense power imbalances and disgruntlement in other areas.

So, might I suggest we return to the original intention of the thread?



I agree with you. stop discuss here. we are not government can not settle the problem. let go back to our topic , malaysia top 10 skyline ranking

daeng_jal
December 5th, 2008, 01:09 PM
ok,lets me start 1st.i always think that cityscape is beautiful only theres a natural wonder included.i.e.waterfront,forrest and mountain the best skyline presently is penang.yeah!.lots of beautiful tall, thin building fronting georgeous sea and backing that green moutain. 2 is the klang valley just because it had lots of skyscraper.3rd will be KK. 4 will be kuching. 5th is ipoh .other city are not worth mentioning now,but in the future will be goergeous. so malaysia future best skyline is,1st is the planned iskandar waterfront. 2nd will be the malacca reclaim waterfront. 3rd PD. 4th is KT, 5th is KUantan, and 6th is KB.7th is putrajaya.8th is for the industrial cityscrape of klang.9th is the beautiful padi infested AS.and 10th is whatever city that gonna be the capital of SCORE. future huge conurbunation will be JB-SG. KV will become the 2nd biggest. 3rd is Pg. 4th is SCORE as the cheap energy gonna attract lots of investment. 4th and 5th is a fight between ipoh and melaka,which currently hold 1mil pop each.

aBe
December 5th, 2008, 04:49 PM
Let's get back to business..

My personal Top Of The Pops for skyline :

1) KL (and Klang Valley)
2) Georgetown, Penang
3) JB
4) Kuching
5) Melaka
6) KK
7) Kota Bharu
8) Kuantan
9) Sibu
10) Sandakan

Other Klang Valley's urban centres such as PJ, Subang, S.Alam etc shouldn't count lah. Else, the top 10 would all go to KV towns. Even Mont Kiara's cluster would easily 'backhand' JB skyline.

Ipoh is too spread out and filled with mostly lowrise. AS, S'ban and KT skyline is just OK.

aBe
December 5th, 2008, 04:57 PM
future huge conurbunation will be JB-SG. KV will become the 2nd biggest. 3rd is Pg. 4th is SCORE as the cheap energy gonna attract lots of investment. 4th and 5th is a fight between ipoh and melaka,which currently hold 1mil pop each.

Don't think SG-JB would stand a chance against the enormous and ever-growing KV conurbation. (Putting on the Jalur Gemilang cap now..:) ) Have a look at the greyish built up comparison.

KV
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b315/abeziel/KV.jpg

SG-JB
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b315/abeziel/SGJB.jpg

Riverofmoltensteel
December 5th, 2008, 05:47 PM
^^ Your right, JB-SG future stand a chance against KV in my opinion. By the time Johor has built most of their buildings skylines, KV will be far far ahead...

teckkang
December 6th, 2008, 12:38 AM
maybe next time KV conurbation will combine with other surrounding cities like Melaka and Seremban, but that will not happen until a faster commuter train connects till Melaka.

2206
December 6th, 2008, 05:58 AM
TROPICANA CITY
http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/3899/2908634861270a8ee0d9oxq4.jpg
@flickr

daeng_jal
December 6th, 2008, 07:15 AM
Here i was thinking that, when the EDT completed both in the west and east coast. the idea of conurbunation will be gone. and each city in the peninsular is the suburb of another.like i can live in klang or seremban and drive or stand in the commuter for one and half hour. or i could just live in ipoh and have dedicated seat to sleep and still reach KL or penang within one half hour.or i can just take a firefly to work:nuts:

baqthier
December 6th, 2008, 09:30 AM
Pusat Bandar Damansara

http://www.bernardrealty.com.my/html/cimage/uoa.JPG
http://www.bernardrealty.com.my/html/cimage/hp.JPG
http://www.bernardrealty.com.my/html/cimage/setia1.JPG
http://www.streetdirectory.net.my/stock_images/indonesia/show_resize_image.php?imageId=my_12028910190571&pos=portrait
http://www.iproperty.com.my/property/realtors/images/240/UP167747.jpg

citysky88
December 6th, 2008, 10:33 AM
Ipoh is a very spacious city with many parks and gardens even around the city centre.
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww240/skycity88/ipoh.jpg

citysky88
December 6th, 2008, 10:43 AM
Street level view in Old Town district (an older part of ipoh city)
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww240/skycity88/streetlevel.jpg

citysky88
December 6th, 2008, 11:28 AM
View of DBI Building in Greentown district
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww240/skycity88/dbi.jpg




The newly upgraded Ipoh railway station
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww240/skycity88/ktm.jpg




DR Park. Ipoh's very own botanical garden right in the middle of the city center.
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww240/skycity88/dr.jpg



Ipoh's famous fountain roundabout.
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww240/skycity88/fra.jpg



Kinta Riverfront at night. Silver Nest Bridge can be seen in the background.
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww240/skycity88/02-b.jpg




Beautiful limestone hills. Snapshot taken from Sunway City Ipoh near The Lost World Of Tambun.
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww240/skycity88/lw.jpg





Ariel View of Greentown district in Ipoh City where the upcoming Ipoh Tower is built. The city layout is very organized.
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww240/skycity88/aerialview-ipohtower.jpg

baqthier
December 13th, 2008, 03:53 PM
Genting
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3077/2609396789_2c60e8d2ee_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3011/2610289114_6796ff8eff_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3139/2609392665_b91dbdda86_o.jpg

CARJON
January 13th, 2009, 03:33 PM
No more ?

Anyone has own city ranking of top skyline in malaysia?

Irwin
January 17th, 2009, 05:48 AM
Penang skyline in Honda City Advertisement.

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/250/wallpaper31024x768sp9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

wow...nice!

CARJON
January 17th, 2009, 07:08 AM
Bro, you got problem ah, subang jaya also can in your list, subang jaya only have medium high rise, that not more than 25 floors, such as segi, summit, and the DOSH building... haha... funny! maybe you have a sepet eyes.

i refer the population of subang jaya.

if follow your critiria. kk won't in my list.

would you tell me , how you judge the skyline?

azey
January 17th, 2009, 08:09 AM
miri city

http://img02.picoodle.com/img/img02/3/1/17/f_MiriAerialVm_7b8f374.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/3/1/17/f_MiriAerialVm_7b8f374.jpg&srv=img02)

azey
January 17th, 2009, 08:12 AM
miri city

http://img02.picoodle.com/img/img02/3/1/17/f_5867866oqm_ebce5b8.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/3/1/17/f_5867866oqm_ebce5b8.jpg&srv=img02)

azey
January 17th, 2009, 08:46 AM
http://img19.picoodle.com/img/img19/3/1/17/f_AerialViewm_d77ad4f.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/3/1/17/f_AerialViewm_d77ad4f.jpg&srv=img19)

http://img26.picoodle.com/img/img26/3/1/16/f_29366024905m_422b7b3.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/3/1/16/f_29366024905m_422b7b3.jpg&srv=img26)

http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/3/1/16/f_BPExtensionm_b4fb78f.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/3/1/16/f_BPExtensionm_b4fb78f.jpg&srv=img33)

http://img37.picoodle.com/img/img37/3/1/16/f_f17m846b192m_7ade29e.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/3/1/16/f_f17m846b192m_7ade29e.jpg&srv=img37)

http://img32.picoodle.com/img/img32/3/1/16/f_MiriStadiumm_0b13959.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/3/1/16/f_MiriStadiumm_0b13959.jpg&srv=img32)

http://img32.picoodle.com/img/img32/3/1/16/f_miririver01m_90ebb21.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/3/1/16/f_miririver01m_90ebb21.jpg&srv=img32)

patchay
January 18th, 2009, 08:00 AM
KL is unbeatable in Malaysia lol!!!


http://img28.picoodle.com/img/img28/8/6/14/f_4124m_5a62003.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2249/2056972822_256fd11b52_o.jpg
by Fred @ SG
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3485/3201805152_90626c35e5_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3497/3200959603_bb91e0db4d_o.jpg
by frmkl2bklyn
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3189/2304751966_6a69d0cba2_b.jpg
by Ming Thien
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2376/2248587440_39479b8294_o.jpg
by Tech n Tools
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3045/3109890087_eca6741ea4_b.jpg
by Jacksen
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2110/2475899658_01bb0b1e74_b.jpg

triplex
January 18th, 2009, 08:23 AM
i think some forumers here hv unclear definition of skyline.. its actually the elevation of city that covers man-made structure (building) with the backdrop of natural elements like river or mountains. but in terms of city skyline, buildings are the main contributor to a beautiful skyline not mountain. we can't compare tibet and new york just because tibet have beautiful icy mountains.

tall buildings definitely gives a better building silhouette.. but some not so tall building can also give a great skyline as long as it is the right size, the right shape and the right material/color. Oh, one more thing.. each building in a beautiful skyline usually stands to each other in a certain manner.. the configuration of each one are somewhat suitable..

my list:-
1) kuala lumpur
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/126/322959582_47073211c3_o.jpg

2)penang
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3283/2415465619_31686706f0.jpg?v=0

3)jb
http://i1.trekearth.com/photos/11065/dscf1431.jpg

4)kch
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38/triplex/kchlove.jpg

Riverofmoltensteel
January 18th, 2009, 09:08 AM
^^ Your right, a skyline isn't all based on the natural background, its based on the buildings that give a good silhouette all together with its surroundings. People can't say penang is the best just because of the background of penang hill and the sea. Its the building that give a proper skyline..
But either way, here's why I think nothing can defeat KL for 10 years to come

1-Kuala lumpur
Why?
-Kenny Heights
-Four Seasons, Lot C, and TA3/4
-KL sentral
-Mon't Kiara
-Platinum Park
-Drapport
-Eco-city Midvalley
-Tamansari Riverside City
-Damansara City
-Other Projects (DNP towers, pavillion, troika etc)
-Projects without a status yet (Sungai Besi Hub, KL sentral 60 story office etc)
Come on, what skyline in Malaysia can beat that?

triplex
January 18th, 2009, 11:19 AM
even now KL is one of the top gorgeous skyline in the world.. i don't think any other city in malaysia can surpass KL's stunning beauty.. I have to say KLCC really should be given a lot of credit to that.those new buildings surely will accentuate KL's image in the future.

in the future, each major city will have at least one GREAT building to uplift their image..

penang - penang global city centre

http://*************************/malaysia/jpgs/penang_global_city_center_asymptote190907_2.jpg

jb - chrysalis

http://www.emirates-re.com/files/processed/00088000/88043_Setia%20EcoCity,%20Iskandar%20Developm.jpg

kch - kch tower + kch isthmus

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/133/347935775_71d7bcf3fb_o.jpg

patchay
January 18th, 2009, 11:32 AM
i tot pgcc cancelled?

triplex
January 18th, 2009, 11:35 AM
really?.. haven't heard of that. it gets so many publicity and the project is a vital project.. can't be la..

aBe
January 18th, 2009, 05:08 PM
A relatively small skyline with clustered medium height towers did help these 'lesser' cities to..kind of project a nice skyline.

Kota Bharu
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b315/abeziel/KBskyline2007.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2170/2488148449_5f46c14b3e_o.jpg


Sibu
http://img02.picoodle.com/img/img02/8/6/5/f_5465m_b2ebd99.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j33/Eastern_Tea/sibuswan3.jpg


Sandakan
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/2784/sdk2steven888vi8.jpg


Kuantan
http://img34.picoodle.com/img/img34/3/12/24/f_11m_92ab9f7.jpg

Thanx to all pix owners

TWK90
January 18th, 2009, 05:36 PM
^^

For Sandakan, i hope the completion of the 26 storey Sandakan Harbour Square building next year, will change Sandakan skyline....

http://www.sandakanharboursquare.com.my/gfx/intro_phase4.jpg

It is taller than Wismaa Khoo Siak Chiew (18 storeys)...i think this will be our landmark

patchay
January 19th, 2009, 10:38 AM
really?.. haven't heard of that. it gets so many publicity and the project is a vital project.. can't be la..

just refer here http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=505570. The company is dead too.

teckkang
January 19th, 2009, 10:42 AM
Kota Bahru skyline looks very decent, but the cityscape is not.

aBe
January 19th, 2009, 05:00 PM
Kota Bahru skyline looks very decent, but the cityscape is not.

Somewhat agreed, Kota Bharu needs to learn and follow what Sarawak has done to its cities like Miri, Sibu etc. Those are examples of good urban planning and development..

teckkang
January 19th, 2009, 05:05 PM
Somewhat agreed, Kota Bharu needs to learn and follow what Sarawak has done to its cities like Miri, Sibu etc. Those are examples of good urban planning and development..

Or learn from Melaka :D

CARJON
January 19th, 2009, 05:14 PM
melaka and kk progress very fast. I think next five to ten years melaka and kk , will become big city. kuching should learn from kk and melaka.

teckkang
January 19th, 2009, 06:10 PM
melaka and kk progress very fast. I think next five to ten years melaka and kk , will become big city. kuching should learn from kk and melaka.

oh, i thought Kuching is a lot more developed than Melaka.

achkeen10
January 20th, 2009, 12:53 PM
Or learn from Melaka :D

Melaka good in urban planning???? i dont think so....

teckkang
January 20th, 2009, 05:33 PM
Melaka good in urban planning???? i dont think so....

did i say malacca is good in urban planning?

benegan
January 20th, 2009, 09:59 PM
i guess, we should be learning from each other. KK learn from kuching, kuching learn from Malacca, Malacca learn from the best.

CARJON
January 21st, 2009, 04:51 AM
oh, i thought Kuching is a lot more developed than Melaka.

At this moment, maybe kuching is more developed than melacca and kk.

but I can see in near future these two city is catching up very fast.

Magician
January 21st, 2009, 05:27 AM
At this moment, maybe kuching is more developed than melacca and kk.

but I can see in near future these two city is catching up very fast.

Oh Kuching is more developed than KK? I always thought KK has more development than Kuching...

CARJON
January 21st, 2009, 06:58 AM
Oh Kuching is more developed than KK? I always thought KK has more development than Kuching...

see how you judge

in term of shopping mall , kk is better
in term of population, kk is better
in term of public amenities , kuching is better
in term of size of city , kuching is better
in term of highrise building, kuching is better. (about 70-80 block of highrise building)

please correct me ,if I am wrong.
for me , kuching is little bit better than kk now. but in near future kk is better. I can see a lot of future development of kk, while kuching has less development.

Yohanes
January 21st, 2009, 08:54 AM
see how you judge


in term of population, kk is better
in term of public amenities , kuching is better
in term of size of city , kuching is better
in term of highrise building, kuching is better. (about 70-80 block of highrise building)

please correct me ,if I am wrong.
for me , kuching is little bit better than kk now. but in near future kk is better. I can see a lot of future development of kk, while kuching has less development.

what do u mean by saying in term of population, kk is better? as far as i concern, kch population is higher than kk.

Kch less develop? No..i dont think so... Just go to kch suburban then you will know how develop kuching is. More important, in kch we billd everything and not only shopping mall. convention centre, hospitals(private & gov), universites (private&gov), milatary camp, kch santral, highways, housing parks & etc also considered as development.

Lastresorter
January 22nd, 2009, 11:17 AM
1. KL - unrivalled.
2. Penang - take Penang Bridge from Butterworth to the island and see it for yourself.
3. PJ - minus the many clusters scattered around the city, you get to see a little bit of PJ CBD plus an emerging KL skyline in the background... not sure if it counts as PJ's skyline.
4. JB - unfortunately you can only see the cluster from Singapore, Singapore Turf Club in Kranji offers a good view of its skyline, btw.
5. KK - very nice, with mountain and sea (yes, I take into account natural settings as part of the skyline)
6. Kuching - emerging slowly.
7. Shah Alam - clean, organised, solemn (not vibrant enuf tho)
8. Malacca - historical yet progressive
9. Miri - progressive yet low profile
10. Ipoh - with the hills and caves... without them, Ipoh is just so-so...

daeng_jal
January 22nd, 2009, 06:44 PM
i supported the idea of natural setting as part of the city skyline, look at manhattan and hong kong...its stunning.....on contrast singapore with it man made building,man made marina,and that overall controll to make the city look good just isn't enough.to make it impressive...on that note so does KL it had stunning building but no backdrop to make it more stunning..

CARJON
January 23rd, 2009, 08:41 AM
[QUOTE=Yohanes;31059200]what do u mean by saying in term of population, kk is better? as far as i concern, kch population is higher th



sorry !! after I check Wiki. the population of kuching is 658,562 and kk is 579,304( estimated) so kuching is more populated

MY OWN OPINION
in term of shopping mall kk is much better
in term of public amenities ( 1 big library 2 city libraries , 4 university , 4 flyovers , 2 outdoor stadium 2 indoor stadium, 1 general hospital and 3 medical center and so on) kuching is better
in term of population kuching is slightly better
in term of highrise building kuching is better (70-80 blocks, count by myself)
in term of tourist attraction kk is much better

CARJON
January 23rd, 2009, 08:46 AM
what do u mean by saying in term of population, kk is better? as far as i concern, kch population is higher than kk.

Kch less develop? No..i dont think so... Just go to kch suburban then you will know how develop kuching is. More important, in kch we billd everything and not only shopping mall. convention centre, hospitals(private & gov), universites (private&gov), milatary camp, kch santral, highways, housing parks & etc also considered as development.

IN MY OWN OPINION, I would say , KUCHING is still better than kk today.
but in near future , KK will catching up soon. I compare the proposed projects of kuching and KK , kk has more projects.

benegan
January 23rd, 2009, 03:51 PM
IN MY OWN OPINION, I would say , KUCHING is still better than kk today.
but in near future , KK will catching up soon. I compare the proposed projects of kuching and KK , kk has more projects.

here it goes again...hmm

patchay
January 24th, 2009, 02:44 AM
no offence, but i think city of PJ, SJ and SA have much more projects than whole of East Malaysian booming cities combined hahaha.

i would love to see malaysia one day like australia where almost every state capitals have quite a majestic skyline, good infrastructure and high standard of living.

Riverofmoltensteel
January 24th, 2009, 07:33 AM
^^ Well the only two cities (outside of klang valley) with those current capabilities is Johor Bahru and Whole Penang (not thinning it down to George Town).... With the light project and BSG (if approved) Penang should have a pretty majestic skyline.. Johor Bahru; well, the new proposal for JB CBD. Thats should fit nicely. So what do you expect.

I believe Johor can become the Gold Coast of Malaysia, while penang; not to sure...

aBe
January 24th, 2009, 07:48 AM
^^ Well the only two cities (outside of klang valley) with those current capabilities is Johor Bahru and Whole Penang (not thinning it down to George Town).... With the light project and BSG (if approved) Penang should have a pretty majestic skyline.. Johor Bahru; well, the new proposal for JB CBD. Thats should fit nicely. So what do you expect.

I believe Johor can become the Gold Coast of Malaysia, while penang; not to sure...


Well..wonder if u have seen Penang impressive coastline
Penang already IS the Gold Coast equivalent of Malaysia !

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3283/2415465619_31686706f0_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3013/2652034427_bd30fc744b_o.jpg

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd216/jegelsker99/stardex.jpg

Lastresorter
January 24th, 2009, 09:07 AM
^^ Well the only two cities (outside of klang valley) with those current capabilities is Johor Bahru and Whole Penang (not thinning it down to George Town).... With the light project and BSG (if approved) Penang should have a pretty majestic skyline.. Johor Bahru; well, the new proposal for JB CBD. Thats should fit nicely. So what do you expect.

I believe Johor can become the Gold Coast of Malaysia, while penang; not to sure...

Personally, the current skyline of Penang is more spectacular than that of JB's. And I think Penang is also more blessed with sunshine and beaches as compared to JB.

patchay
January 24th, 2009, 10:55 AM
no offence, but my survey tells me that most Singaporeans (i met in uni) say JB is very hazardous haha

actually i see lotsa potential in Alor Setar and KTerengganu to have some sort of skyline in future

TWK90
January 24th, 2009, 11:20 AM
no offence, but i think city of PJ, SJ and SA have much more projects than whole of East Malaysian booming cities combined hahaha.


Yeah, however PJ, SJ and SA is part of greater urban area called Klang Valley...

Whereas in Kota Kinabalu and Kuching are urban areas on its own....

Basically, this is just like why Osaka is considered as Japan's second biggest city and not Yokohama which has higher population than Osaka city itself because Yokohama is part of greater Tokyo, whereas Osaka is an urban area of its own...

Riverofmoltensteel
January 24th, 2009, 12:18 PM
Well aBe, the current Penang skyline is of course better that the Current Johor Bahru skyline. But with the Johor Bahru financial district proposal, then, Johor Bahru would probably beat Penangs skyline. Yes, I have seen the Penang Skyline in real life (and so I rank it at 2nd) its pretty impressive, the only problem is that the sea is dirty and no clean beaches on the gurney drive area...

I'd have to say that a good emerging skyline is probably Putrajaya.... Though being a deserted city, it will beat the skylines of Kota Kinabalu, Kuching, Alor Setar, and Kuala Terranganu.

daeng_jal
January 24th, 2009, 12:38 PM
no offence, but i think city of PJ, SJ and SA have much more projects than whole of East Malaysian booming cities combined hahaha.

i would love to see malaysia one day like australia where almost every state capitals have quite a majestic skyline, good infrastructure and high standard of living.

well 50yrs ago all malaysian city are about the same size with singapore(at the time b4 independent) and penang leading the pack.even klang and ipoh had more population than kl.then BN come, and said lets it be only one city.then only one city strive while the other are beaten down to make way for one.

argory
January 25th, 2009, 05:19 AM
well 50yrs ago all malaysian city are about the same size with singapore(at the time b4 independent) and penang leading the pack.even klang and ipoh had more population than kl.then BN come, and said lets it be only one city.then only one city strive while the other are beaten down to make way for one.

Quotes for you to think about before commenting so loudly ;) :

"In 1947, in terms of population, Kuala Lumpur was still smaller than Georgetown (i.e. Penang Municipality), but by 1957 it had far exceeded Georgetown, replacing the latter as the largest town in the Federation of Malaya."

Lim Chong-Yah, Pg 196, Economic Development of Modern Malaya, Oxford University Press, 1967.

"Kuala Lumpor was selected as the headquarters of the federal departments, and here gradually gew up a series of fine public buildings in keeping up with the importance of the federated area. Now, with an important trunk railway running through it, a network of roads radiating from all important points, and a considerable residential population, it vies in dignity and size with the chief towns of many crown colonies."

Arnold Wright, Pg 110, Twentieth Century Impressions of British Malaya, First Published in 1908

The two texts I quoted (from 1967 and 1908) clearly indicate the progress and importance of Kuala Lumpur even before independence.

Arkdriver
January 25th, 2009, 07:36 AM
JB is very dangerous. I share the sentiment with my Singaporean paymaster

daeng_jal
January 25th, 2009, 08:49 AM
Quotes for you to think about before commenting so loudly ;) :

"In 1947, in terms of population, Kuala Lumpur was still smaller than Georgetown (i.e. Penang Municipality), but by 1957 it had far exceeded Georgetown, replacing the latter as the largest town in the Federation of Malaya."

Lim Chong-Yah, Pg 196, Economic Development of Modern Malaya, Oxford University Press, 1967.

"Kuala Lumpor was selected as the headquarters of the federal departments, and here gradually gew up a series of fine public buildings in keeping up with the importance of the federated area. Now, with an important trunk railway running through it, a network of roads radiating from all important points, and a considerable residential population, it vies in dignity and size with the chief towns of many crown colonies."

Arnold Wright, Pg 110, Twentieth Century Impressions of British Malaya, First Published in 1908

The two texts I quoted (from 1967 and 1908) clearly indicate the progress and importance of Kuala Lumpur even before independence.

well,my sources was a gov publication(can't remember which,but i was reading it at the SPA hq) that stated the port of penang, penang free port status and port in johor had to be cap in term of development so that port klang and the klang valley to strive to become the country chief conurbunation.2nd is from the reprint pre merdeka straits times stat that show the urban pop of malaya.anyway i never doubt kl importance in the colonial yrs afterall its the capital of the FMS.but what interesting is that 50yr ago all malaysian town are about the same size.50yrs on kl had become so much bigger than others...and some fed institvion, putrajaya and public uni doesn't nessarily need to being built in the KV.but the fact that it being built there show how selangor/kl centric the fed are.probably,imo that if the fed had play a natural stat its most logical that the country biggest conurbunation is jb or penang due to its strategic location than the kv itself. but again it just my personal view

argory
January 25th, 2009, 12:19 PM
well,my sources was a gov publication(can't remember which,but i was reading it at the SPA hq) that stated the port of penang, penang free port status and port in johor had to be cap in term of development so that port klang and the klang valley to strive to become the country chief conurbunation.2nd is from the reprint pre merdeka straits times stat that show the urban pop of malaya.anyway i never doubt kl importance in the colonial yrs afterall its the capital of the FMS.but what interesting is that 50yr ago all malaysian town are about the same size.50yrs on kl had become so much bigger than others...and some fed institvion, putrajaya and public uni doesn't nessarily need to being built in the KV.but the fact that it being built there show how selangor/kl centric the fed are.probably,imo that if the fed had play a natural stat its most logical that the country biggest conurbunation is jb or penang due to its strategic location than the kv itself. but again it just my personal view

It was also a natural process of rural-urban migration that made KL a big city. It is the same in other developing countries. Selangor provided employment opportunities in the primary, secondary and tertiary sectors even before independence. KL was geographically central to almost all major areas in the peninsula. This was highly important at a time when communication and transportation was not easy or as sophisticated. KL had good road, rail, air and sea links –all of which were initiated by the British. So as a city surrounded by huge amounts of readily available land and good accessibility, it became a natural magnet for development and rural-urban migration. PJ and its industrial estates started off what we now call as the Klang Valley. When industrialization was aggressively promoted to create jobs and increase urbanization, Selangor was well prepared. Penang was unsuitably located (which is why the British left it for Singapore in the first place) and land-starved while JB was still a cowboy town, completely overshadowed by Singapore. So if you were the Prime Minisiter of a new country with limited funds, which area would you build on to bring in fast and badly needed revenue to build roads, hospitals, schools, provide clean water, electricity and eradicate poverty nationwide?

The Klang Valley (i.e. Selangor) was already one of the fastest growing regions in post-war Malaya. Taking the number of banks as a development indicator, in 1958 there were 25 banks in Selangor, 13 in Perak, 12 in Penang and 6 in Melaka. By the mid 50's, the HQ or main branches of large companies would have been in KL with other branches in Penang and Ipoh. That was because KL already had a large set-up of adminstrative machinery and a considerable pool of professionals. In 1957, the ratio of architects, surveyors and engineers to the population was 1:1376 in Selangor and 1:2686 in Penang. (source: as in my previous post)

600 years ago Melaka was the biggest and most important city, now its KL, 100 years down the road we’d never know. It is absolutely natural that one city is bigger than the other – it is the reality of any country. Although I still cant really agree with your claim that ALL Malaysian cities were of the same size 50 years ago. Would be good if you could elaborate more on that.

aBe
January 25th, 2009, 12:23 PM
well,my sources was a gov publication(can't remember which,but i was reading it at the SPA hq) that stated the port of penang, penang free port status and port in johor had to be cap in term of development so that port klang and the klang valley to strive to become the country chief conurbunation.2nd is from the reprint pre merdeka straits times stat that show the urban pop of malaya.anyway i never doubt kl importance in the colonial yrs afterall its the capital of the FMS.but what interesting is that 50yr ago all malaysian town are about the same size.50yrs on kl had become so much bigger than others...and some fed institvion, putrajaya and public uni doesn't nessarily need to being built in the KV.but the fact that it being built there show how selangor/kl centric the fed are.probably,imo that if the fed had play a natural stat its most logical that the country biggest conurbunation is jb or penang due to its strategic location than the kv itself. but again it just my personal view

Well don't really think this growth inhibition kind of conspiracy to secondary cities holds true in Tanah Melayu..

Take a look around:

Jakarta is sooo much bigger compares to Surabaya or Bandung.

Same goes to bangkok which is such a huge megacity when compared to Chiangmai..Korat..Hatyai

Cebu vs Manila is like Tampin vs KL

London also is significantly bigger in urban size compares to Birmingham or the tiny Manchester. (Even Penang is way bigger than Manchesta aye mate !)

Naturally, national Capital and its surrounding would always be the centre of development focus

TWK90
January 25th, 2009, 12:29 PM
Which city can be called as the "second city" of Malaysia?

aBe
January 25th, 2009, 12:36 PM
Which city can be called as the "second city" of Malaysia?

Penang !

Despite what others would like to think of their own city.
Sentiment wise - I might have state Kota Bharu :lol:

daeng_jal
January 25th, 2009, 04:58 PM
when i said almost the same size. the diff is not that far off from each other,in the FMS and straits settlement .unlike the diff of 6mil of today KV with aroumd 1.6 milion of today penang.whereby 50 ago its about the same size.....the favoritetism of KV by the fed really get me.its ok if the private sector choose KV and infrastructure is being built to service it but the fed could be fairer.like why built 6 public Uni here,when it could be built at other state thus contributing to local economy.why can't SIC be built 1km eastward so that it could be in NS. penang had long be our version of silikon valley and rather than to improve on that, they built The MSC against here.why built putrajaya 20km southward when they can move it 50km eastward in bentong/Mentakab that would make the new capital literally in the middle of the country.afterall we are a federation not a normal unitary country.we should act like germany,Aus or UAE rather than indo,thailand or UK.i really hope that each town concentrate on it nitch industry rather than having a huge conurbunation that try to be the jack of all trade.

The Usual Suspect
January 25th, 2009, 05:54 PM
melaka and kk progress very fast. I think next five to ten years melaka and kk , will become big city. kuching should learn from kk and melaka.
Kuching shd learn from Melaka and KK? No offense to those other two lovely cities but... :nuts:

aBe
January 26th, 2009, 01:55 AM
Hehe, no offence but...

Try convincing Citibank to open a branch in Kangar or Alor Setar.
They don't even have a presence pun in Pantai Timur, whereas I won't leave home without my Citibank Visa.

Or maybe write a letter to persuade Lim Kok Wing to set up a new university in Muar.

Even McD just arrived in KT - perhaps the Fed Govt has been stopping them from opening one in KT before since it was under opposition control...:)


Basically, strategic economic importance shall always rules.
That's why KL and Selangor will forever thrive ahead of the rest..with or without Govt intervention

TWK90
January 26th, 2009, 09:40 AM
Hehe, no offence but...

Try convincing Citibank to open a branch in Kangar or Alor Setar.
They don't even have a presence pun in Pantai Timur, whereas I won't leave home without my Citibank Visa.

Or maybe write a letter to persuade Lim Kok Wing to set up a new university in Muar.

Even McD just arrived in KT - perhaps the Fed Govt has been stopping them from opening one in KT before since it was under opposition control...:)


Basically, strategic economic importance shall always rules.
That's why KL and Selangor will forever thrive ahead of the rest..with or without Govt intervention

Speaking of that, Lim Kok Wing will set up a campus in Sandakan...

azey
January 26th, 2009, 04:49 PM
Limkokwing shud open in miri since alot of rich students here....

pt1984
January 27th, 2009, 05:34 AM
Well don't really think this growth inhibition kind of conspiracy to secondary cities holds true in Tanah Melayu..

Take a look around:

Jakarta is sooo much bigger compares to Surabaya or Bandung.

Same goes to bangkok which is such a huge megacity when compared to Chiangmai..Korat..Hatyai

Cebu vs Manila is like Tampin vs KL

London also is significantly bigger in urban size compares to Birmingham or the tiny Manchester. (Even Penang is way bigger than Manchesta aye mate !)

Naturally, national Capital and its surrounding would always be the centre of development focus

Not really. Examples are:

United States: Capital is Washington D.C, Biggest city is New York
China: Capital is Beijing, Biggest city is Shanghai
Canada: Capital is Ottawa, Biggest city is Toronto
United Arab Emirates: Capital is Abu Dhabi, Biggest city is Dubai
Australia: Capital is Canberra, Biggest city is Sydney
New Zealand: Capital is Wellington, Biggest city is Auckland
Brazil: Capital is Brasilia, Biggest city is Sao Paulo

I would think naturally Capital cities are for administration while economic centers are for business... specialization is a good thing... too much concentrated at one center will cause bigger disparity.

Cheers,
pt1984

aBe
January 27th, 2009, 02:54 PM
Not really. Examples are:

United States: Capital is Washington D.C, Biggest city is New York
China: Capital is Beijing, Biggest city is Shanghai
Canada: Capital is Ottawa, Biggest city is Toronto
United Arab Emirates: Capital is Abu Dhabi, Biggest city is Dubai
Australia: Capital is Canberra, Biggest city is Sydney
New Zealand: Capital is Wellington, Biggest city is Auckland
Brazil: Capital is Brasilia, Biggest city is Sao Paulo

I would think naturally Capital cities are for administration while economic centers are for business... specialization is a good thing... too much concentrated at one center will cause bigger disparity.

Cheers,
pt1984

Of course there would be exceptions..
But then Canberra, Brasilia are new cities created to serve as the admin centre for its country respectively. NY has been the centre of everything for the US, and Washington DC was only founded 100 years later . The economic powerhouse of the US, Oz, UAE etc is rather located elsewhere, not at their respective Capital.

But here in Malaysia, it has been concentrated within KL & Selangor since our datuk's time. Which is also natural for developing countries to focus their devt around their National Capital due to the reasons such as infra readiness, labours and other resources availability etc

Maybe later the govt can elevate Putrajaya into national capital so that people won't complaint anymore on devt disparity...but hey Putrajaya is still in Selangor lah:nuts:

daeng_jal
January 28th, 2009, 09:51 AM
typical malaysian styles of camparing itself with its poorer neigbour,of indo,thailan add the philiphines.and not other much develop nation
how about secromento, the capital of carlifornia,
though its not a country,but it is a little big bigger in poplation,in size but a whole lots richer than us..and of its 4 main conurbunation,like san diego,LA,SF and san jose, the self proclaimed capital of silicon valley.....

CARJON
February 1st, 2009, 03:28 AM
let's go back to our topic
top 10 good skyline city in MALAYSIA

Zulhelmi
February 1st, 2009, 03:39 AM
Hehe, no offence but...

Try convincing Citibank to open a branch in Kangar or Alor Setar.
They don't even have a presence pun in Pantai Timur, whereas I won't leave home without my Citibank Visa.

Or maybe write a letter to persuade Lim Kok Wing to set up a new university in Muar.

Even McD just arrived in KT - perhaps the Fed Govt has been stopping them from opening one in KT before since it was under opposition control...:)


Basically, strategic economic importance shall always rules.
That's why KL and Selangor will forever thrive ahead of the rest..with or without Govt intervention
It's just so sad for the East Coast. The three capitals (KB, KT and Kuantan) are really far from each other. Whereas the Northern region, the capitals are really close (Kangar, Alor Setar and Georgetown), just one hour away from one another.

Seriously, Citibank should open a branch in Alor Setar. There are alot of Citibank customers including me.

patchay
February 1st, 2009, 04:07 AM
Well at least the developments in KL/AJ/PJ/SJ/SA/Klang is quite widespread around KV... now moving towards Proton City in the north and Seremban in the south.

I think we simply just need State Govts to care of their own economic issues rather than intervention from Fed.

How? First step is most important. Each state capital must retained enough jobs for the young ones, reduce the migration of youths to KL first. (But again Malaysia as a nation is too ignorant to this concept. Affluent population is also a major concern. )



In Australia, most state capitals (excluding Darwin and Hobart) will display their skyline dominated by State Government's corporation headquarters. Then, each state capital will be home to certain national big corporations (most corps still keep big offices in Sydney n Melbourne though).

An important aspect is an equally fascinating shopping precinct in these state capitals. And each of them are well connected with the local public transportation system that connects all the way into the hinterland. Not forgetting these state capitals also have international airports, and each of them can stand independently as a gateway to the nation.