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View Full Version : Milano Residences [53F|res] leechtat August 16th, 2010, 06:56 AM deleted as per century request... leechtat August 16th, 2010, 08:03 AM deleted as per century request... anone August 16th, 2010, 08:22 AM may bago na naman pakulo ang CPI at baka matulad na naman ito sa Jerde. :ohno: :bash: sa mga nagbabalak .... ingat lang po dahil kilalang kilala ang CPI sa "bait and switch" rubix_cube321 August 16th, 2010, 12:29 PM is this the phase 2 of gramercy? or a totally different project all together? Eaton Square August 16th, 2010, 12:42 PM i was having wild imaginations that this project would rise in the former colgate-palmolive site. leechtat August 16th, 2010, 01:08 PM @rubix.. not sure.. the info was just relayed to me this morning. @eaton.. let's hope so.. and if so, that area of manda will be gentrified.. (colgate Palmolive is in makati or manda?) Eaton Square August 16th, 2010, 01:36 PM @rubix.. not sure.. the info was just relayed to me this morning. @eaton.. let's hope so.. and if so, that area of manda will be gentrified.. (colgate Palmolive is in makati or manda?) it's in makati. that place is huge. KCJ08 August 17th, 2010, 05:53 AM Heard from a source that this will be one of the essensa level of luxury, the name decided so far is Milano (patterned after Milan, Italy). This will be one of the 3 buildings that would be placed behind the Gramercy and beside the Knightsbridge. The other two buildings are: a high end medical center and then an office building. It is said to launch late this year. absolutblue August 17th, 2010, 10:06 AM Heard from a source that this will be one of the essensa level of luxury, the name decided so far is Milano (patterned after Milan, Italy). This will be one of the 3 buildings that would be placed behind the Gramercy and beside the Knightsbridge. The other two buildings are: a high end medical center and then an office building. It is said to launch late this year. Isn't that what they have said about all their projects since essensa? They sure like to mention they built essensa anyway. mattz23 August 17th, 2010, 11:21 AM hmmm kinda interesting though... is there any rendering available ? on this project? wynngd August 18th, 2010, 10:30 AM either in the former colgate-palmolive area or in the former Noah's Arc sugar factory right across the pasig river. They've demolished the factory already... anakngpasig August 20th, 2010, 02:36 PM so this is "officially" a rumor as of now? :D everyone's speculating what this project is all about. leechtat August 21st, 2010, 05:39 PM ^^ no. this is a concrete project to be launched this year. heard last thursday that it will be located in the gramercy area. so @KCJ08 is correct. anakngpasig August 22nd, 2010, 07:55 AM ^^that's what i'm talking about, a concrete rumor :D. he has heard, she has heard, everyone has heard... :lol: leechtat August 22nd, 2010, 08:28 AM ^^:lol: :rofl: :lol: :rofl: sure enough this project is a go. we are just waiting for the renders and more of the project details. anakngpasig August 22nd, 2010, 08:37 AM but seriously, i hope CPI goes back to its roots - good quality projects. and they better hire a good architect and execute this project well. Milan? Versace? sounds like luxury to me. REDD808 August 22nd, 2010, 08:38 AM ^^ no. this is a concrete project to be launched this year. heard last thursday that it will be located in the gramercy area. so @KCJ08 is correct. hope you can pm me for the project details and payment scheme once available, hope this will be easy to invest just like gramercy at 5 year 0 interest San-Mat August 22nd, 2010, 03:00 PM Meron bang road expansion in that area. Parang super raming condo units from Picar, CPI, Venue and now this new project. Reminds me of Eastwood but it has C5 sa entrance. Just like Eastwood pag nagtabiabi youn mga condo buildings, Will it eventaully pull down prices sa secondary/resale market? maczilla August 22nd, 2010, 05:07 PM Exactly. Can't they widen kalayaan? It's fast becoming a major road nowadays. Perhaps they can take over the parallel road inside San Miguel Village to widen kalayaan? the residents there will surely benefit from a widened and improved kalayaan. zandro888 September 13th, 2010, 05:20 PM nice name, Milan Versace. U would really feel that your going home there in Milan. As in if they ask you: "where do you stay pare? " ans. "I stay in Milan Versace bro". Whoa! REDD808 September 13th, 2010, 11:51 PM more details... PHP 129K - 140K / sqm. from 62 - 213 sqm. unit sizes no studio units all 1BR, 2BR, 3BR, Loggia, Skytown, Penthse, Townhouse units ^^ last part though i.e. townhouse is vague. that came from my source though. not much details yet. will keep the thread posted. WHATS A LOGGIA? flymordecai September 14th, 2010, 12:19 AM ^^ Basically a traditional Italian porch/portico usually fronted by columns. I'm guessing these "Loggia" units will have a balcony in the style of a Loggia or they could be public spaces for each floor. REDD808 September 14th, 2010, 02:39 AM ^^ Basically a traditional Italian porch/portico usually fronted by columns. I'm guessing these "Loggia" units will have a balcony in the style of a Loggia or they could be public spaces for each floor. and what do you think the skytown would be? i am guessing this maybe the one shown in the old century city rendering as those townhouse looking structures with pool and landscape atop the proposed mall. looks great. Sherwin M. Pelayo October 4th, 2010, 03:34 PM Here it is . . . http://i51.tinypic.com/2ns7vat.jpg Hosted in tinypic (http://www.tinypic.com/). anakngpasig October 4th, 2010, 03:39 PM whoa! very nice and it looks like it's 55 floors tall too! but first luxury private residences in asia?! who are they kidding? :lol: but maybe the first designed by Versace Home? :D Sherwin M. Pelayo October 4th, 2010, 03:47 PM whoa! looks like it's 55 floors tall too! first luxury private residences in asia?! who are they kidding? :lol: But could be the first in Asia designed by Versace Home? anakngpasig October 4th, 2010, 03:54 PM yeah i guess. what's the website on that pic you posted? Sherwin M. Pelayo October 4th, 2010, 03:58 PM yeah i guess. what's the website on that pic you posted? www.milanoresidences.com.ph. Have been trying to go to it but am getting a network error; probably still down. REDD808 October 4th, 2010, 04:03 PM Here it is . . . http://i52.tinypic.com/2jazzms.jpg Hosted in tinypic (http://www.tinypic.com/). CONGRATULATIONS, nice job. anakngpasig October 4th, 2010, 04:04 PM www.milanoresidences.com.ph. Have been trying to go to it but am getting a network error; probably still down. thanks. seems it's not working yet richard24 October 4th, 2010, 04:10 PM So, I suppose by the looks of the render, this isn't Gramercy's phase 2? leechtat October 4th, 2010, 04:42 PM deleted as per century request... @tbp October 4th, 2010, 05:27 PM looks good though there's much concrete i would say! if they could pull this one as is, with its Versace design, they could probably change CPI's reputation and add to the makati skyline. i'm keeping my fingers crossed :D on the other hand, im giving it 6mos to a year...let's see if they would change anything esp. in the design :P absolutblue October 4th, 2010, 09:53 PM ^^ thats stunning..lets just hope century stay true to the render. --SuperB0y-- October 4th, 2010, 10:03 PM really nice design! and great marketing handle! Here's my take... 1) It's not a Versace-branded residence. It's MILANO Residences by CPI. 2) But some interiors, i guess, will have versace brand... VERSACE HOME. It's a home decor line with such items like linen, vases, lamps, carpets, furniture, etc (much like Ethen Allen or Ralph Lauren Home) 3) PUT Together... MILANO VERSACE... it appears like a VERSACE brand hotel or residence much like Versace Palazzo. BUT of course, anybody can correct me if my analysis is wrong. it's actually in the flyer. like i said, great-great-great marketing handle as you would initially think its VERSACE residence @ only 130K/sqm! Just my 2 cents... REDD808 October 5th, 2010, 12:17 AM ^^ all info are out now since last week. but they are strict to block all details yet for public release... i have price list and floor plans. pm me na lang if you guys want. VV more details... CENTURY PROPERTIES INC. pride to present you the latest tower that will rise at the North of Makati - THE MILANO RESIDENCES The Milano rises a towering 53 storeys, overlooking the vibrancy and energy of of Century City. The building exterior resonates the Versace's iconic design language by replicating the distinctive greek fret rising up the entire buliding's facade. Here are some details of the project: * Approx. 2,500 sq.m land area * loft floor to ceiling height approx 18ft. * Loggia with swimming pool * Penthouse unit also with swimming pool * Commercial spaces at ground floor and mezzanine (Total of 6 units only) * Maximum of only 10 units per floor (For Residential) * Pre-selling price at 120K/sq.m-140K/sq.m but will increase 3 months after. FYI. * Total of 350 units only * Construction: 2nd quarter of 2011/next year. * Check payable to CCDC (Century City Development Corp.) * Reservation fee: Php 75,000.00* Total of 53 floors * Model units available Jan. 20, 2011 4th floor Pacific Star building * The MILANO Residences is worth Php 4Billion * Turnover date: December 2015 * Interior designed by VERSACE Home *** mods please edit thread name to MILANO - 53floors please send me more info with floor plans and layout, and directions. PM me please. Thanks diz October 5th, 2010, 02:23 AM the fact that the word Century is in the rendering makes me feel uneasy. anyone wanna take bets on whether or not the rendering will stay the same until completion? :D xavierdude October 5th, 2010, 02:53 AM Here it is . . . http://i52.tinypic.com/2jazzms.jpg Hosted in tinypic (http://www.tinypic.com/). kung natuloy to this would be the better version of this building: http://www.condominiumhouseandlotphilippines.com/Princeton-Residences-Builidng-Perspective.jpg REDD808 October 5th, 2010, 04:00 AM Here it is . . . http://i52.tinypic.com/2jazzms.jpg Hosted in tinypic (http://www.tinypic.com/). i particularly am fascinated by the idea of multiple units with exclusive open spaces and a pocket garden several levels up. This is indeed a luxury item considering the urban lifestyle of makati. TheRick October 5th, 2010, 04:08 AM At this price tag. Is this "What you see (in the ads) is what you get" or "Your unit could look like this"? Will they still use gypsum board unit partions for this High End project? Looks like a nice project. Jerde and now Versace. Century City showing muscle. Can't wait to see the model unit and renderings. -SNPKLSDMBLDR- October 5th, 2010, 05:36 AM more pics http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs636.snc4/59643_445923934659_761489659_5023108_7502298_n.jpg http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs636.snc4/59643_445923929659_761489659_5023107_5964548_n.jpg http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs616.snc4/59643_445923924659_761489659_5023106_1488166_n.jpg http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs731.snc4/65103_445923754659_761489659_5023103_1902763_n.jpg http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs316.ash2/59643_445923939659_761489659_5023109_1613688_n.jpg http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs616.snc4/59643_445923944659_761489659_5023110_7518373_n.jpg http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs316.ash2/59643_445923949659_761489659_5023111_3998357_n.jpg http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs636.snc4/59643_445923954659_761489659_5023112_4390651_n.jpg http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs636.snc4/59643_445923959659_761489659_5023113_77850_n.jpg http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs616.snc4/59643_445923964659_761489659_5023114_8093402_n.jpg http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs245.snc4/39597_445929994659_761489659_5023174_7541531_n.jpg http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs011.snc4/33890_445930079659_761489659_5023175_489386_n.jpg http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs011.ash2/33890_445930084659_761489659_5023176_4199113_n.jpg http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs011.ash2/33890_445930094659_761489659_5023178_799111_n.jpg http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs011.ash2/33890_445930089659_761489659_5023177_6047486_n.jpg source (http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=246940&id=761489659) Paul B October 5th, 2010, 07:53 AM Looks insane. Eaton Square October 5th, 2010, 08:11 AM the design looks great! KCJ08 October 5th, 2010, 08:46 AM I'm kind of confused as to where this building is facing? Is this building facing away from Kalayaan avenue which would mean that this building is facing Gramercy? Or is this building going to be built next to Knightsbridge? Can anyone confirm this rendering??? Thanks. Kintoy October 5th, 2010, 08:51 AM nice. 53 stories. Sherwin M. Pelayo October 5th, 2010, 10:07 AM I'm kind of confused as to where this building is facing? Is this building facing away from Kalayaan building which would mean that this building is facing Gramercy? Or is this building going to be built next to Knightsbridge? Can anyone confirm this rendering??? Thanks. Can this fit in the green patch between Stratford and Knightsbridge? http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4131/4984855571_cc5cb5d136_b.jpg REDD808 October 5th, 2010, 11:06 AM its supposed to be on the right side of gram looking at it from the pacific star bldg, so its going to be on the opposite side, closer to kalayaan and makati ave side. though, makati ave is quite far already, but on that side or direction, and its going to face over the century city, so its side by side with gram. the famous firewall of gram that has made this thread topic's top 5 chart is going to be missed forever, this will be covered and replaced by this fabulous bldg. Mitch_Rivera October 5th, 2010, 12:20 PM Ooops. Just got a directive that these pics are supposed to be recalled. You can request for more photos/details/info from your Century contacts or just PM me. But yeah, everyone's asking "How do you find Milano?" And my only reply? I was blown away. :bow: REDD808 October 5th, 2010, 01:25 PM Ooops. Just got a directive that these pics are supposed to be recalled. You can request for more photos/details/info from your Century contacts or just PM me. But yeah, everyone's asking "How do you find Milano?" And my only reply? I was blown away. :bow: recalled? its too late, its already in facebook, you mean this was unauthorized use? Eaton Square October 5th, 2010, 01:46 PM jokes? but if this is true, century properties' reputation is once again going down the drain tsk tsk. @tbp October 5th, 2010, 04:56 PM haha this is ridiculous...well if it was unauthorized use, then i guess the agents are pretty much excited as we are. if it was recalled because they would be making changes, then i guess i was wrong to say that it would take 3-6mos for changes to happen. haha. oh well....:banana: leechtat October 5th, 2010, 08:51 PM ^^ Well, not really guys. There is no License to Sell yet. That's why they prohibit marketing in providing more details. Only here in SSC we get scoop of most projects because of insiders. That's why i did not post render cause I know someone from CP is monitoring SSC. For those who will not follow will be banned. You will get no more insider updates. Even for Park Terraces or Senta before. All developers do this. :) KCJ08 October 5th, 2010, 09:17 PM I have to admit that this is a gorgeous building. I'm just wondering as to where this building is facing??? If this was going to be on the side of Gramercy, how come the rendering is not accurate? I would think that part of the appeal would be the view of the makati skyline but if this building would be facing Gramercy, it would certainly not be as grand. I would also hate to be the owner of the Gramercy condo on the lower floors as this building will certainly occlude the makati skyline view from the unit. If you also notice on the pictures that there is another shorter building to the right of the Milano. Theres also a shadow of this same building on one picture. Wonder what this building would be??? diz October 6th, 2010, 02:02 AM waiting for the design change. :| Mitch_Rivera October 6th, 2010, 05:26 AM recalled? its too late, its already in facebook, you mean this was unauthorized use? Well not necessarily, I'd like to give them the benefit of the doubt. Before the recall there was the GO signal to excite the market prior the formal launch. So the time that those pics were posted on Facebook, I'm assuming that these agents were acting upon that GO signal. But I heard about the recall order thus the restraint. And yes, we've always monitored threads and forums like these from waaay back, because IMHO, it's also important to correct some misconceptions about the project and the developer. I mean of course you can't please everyone, but it won't hurt to be objective either. ;) RonnieR October 6th, 2010, 06:42 AM Wow, just Wow! Great. esther4:16 October 6th, 2010, 12:01 PM Who's the architect of this? skalet3 October 6th, 2010, 12:10 PM Can this fit in the green patch between Stratford and Knightsbridge? that area belongs to picar... my guess is that its going to be placed next to Grem and mybe cover the firewall with a litle space between them. seems most likely. let me se what i can find out. rubix_cube321 October 6th, 2010, 02:58 PM is that a common round-about for knightsbridge-milano or gramercy-milano? r0mm3l October 6th, 2010, 04:07 PM wow!!!!!!a FlowFlow October 7th, 2010, 03:51 AM wow ganda nito if naimplement ruffarambo1 October 7th, 2010, 03:59 AM waiting for the design change. :| yeah a major major major major major major major major major major major major major major major major major major major major major major major major major major major major major major major major major major major major major major major major major major change! :lol: REDD808 October 7th, 2010, 05:57 AM THERE are just 5 commercial area, and corner unit E is already reserved. Its quite huge in terms of floor area, considering its bi-level. I hope if they ever change the plans, they would include more units for commercial space to be more affordable for investors. Currently they are selling at 160k per sq m already, but i really doubt the price will ever change. rough October 7th, 2010, 11:09 AM is that a common round-about for knightsbridge-milano or gramercy-milano? Its parallel to knightsbridge. Canon_in_D October 7th, 2010, 11:15 PM Its parallel to knightsbridge. Hey Rough, :doh: what do you mean by that your statement, Milano will be facing KB? or would it more like side by side?:? With that in mind hope at least it would not obscure the view of KB. :ohno: On second thought oohhh well with that rendering i guess it's not that bad :| Sherwin M. Pelayo October 8th, 2010, 07:26 AM Hey Rough, :doh: what do you mean by that your statement, Milano will be facing KB? or would it more like side by side?:? With that in mind hope at least it would not obscure the view of KB. :ohno: On second thought oohhh well with that rendering i guess it's not that bad :| Got word from my agent (and we actually debated about this :lol:), Milano will be between Stratford and the Knightsbridge. You know the shadow of a building in the above pictures? That's the Knightsbridge. Essentially, Milano and Knightsbridge will share that roundabout. Edmundtanso October 8th, 2010, 07:29 AM waiting for the design change. :| I was gonna say the same thing :) Canon_in_D October 8th, 2010, 08:01 AM Got word from my agent (and we actually debated about this :lol:), Milano will be between Stratford and the Knightsbridge. You know the shadow of a building in the above pictures? That's the Knightsbridge. Essentially, Milano and Knightsbridge will share that roundabout. huh! :doh: now Sherwin am confused... are you trying to tell me that the remaining grass/land between KB & Strafford will be the spot for Milano???? seems like the space is so gnomish.:? It would make more sense if it would be along the side (between Gram & KB.):) Sherwin M. Pelayo October 8th, 2010, 11:55 AM huh! :doh: now Sherwin am confused... are you trying to tell me that the remaining grass/land between KB & Strafford will be the spot for Milano???? seems like the space is so gnomish.:? It would make more sense if it would be along the side (between Gram & KB.):) It is, isn't it? That's why I asked my agent repeatedly. I actually asked the same on the photo where there's that small green patch. I don't know how it will fit there but, let's see. I'll go to the site on Sunday and ask. :lol: rough October 8th, 2010, 02:43 PM Hey Rough, :doh: what do you mean by that your statement, Milano will be facing KB? or would it more like side by side?:? With that in mind hope at least it would not obscure the view of KB. :ohno: On second thought oohhh well with that rendering i guess it's not that bad :| Knightsbridge is the other building in the render. It won't obscure the view since both towers are curvelinear in form. A common piazza will be at the center. :) rough October 8th, 2010, 02:52 PM It is, isn't it? That's why I asked my agent repeatedly. I actually asked the same on the photo where there's that small green patch. I don't know how it will fit there but, let's see. I'll go to the site on Sunday and ask. :lol: That green patch isnt exactly small. It just seems like it because of the size of the excavated pits. I suggest that you use the dumptrucks and other vehicles in the photo as your refference for your scale. By the way, the Milano will have a slightly smaller radius than Knightsbridge since its a low-density development. absolutblue October 8th, 2010, 05:38 PM waiting for the design change. :| Unfortunately you are probably right. still theres a bit of hope as they did build essensa. alheaine October 8th, 2010, 05:58 PM i love it.. ♥♥♥ OtAkAw October 8th, 2010, 09:37 PM I thought this was affiliated with Versace, I was about to pass out on my seat haha (Palazzo Versace in MANILA??!!!) leechtat October 9th, 2010, 10:24 AM ^^ Versace HOME.. miko_skyhigh1 October 10th, 2010, 05:10 PM awesome project. I wonder where this is exactly located in the Century City and where the front is facing! leechtat October 12th, 2010, 07:31 AM Hi Guys, we were asked to delete this thread as per Century memo banning all info of the project before official launch. See how the developers monitor SSC now.. :cheers: Mods, Please facilitate. Thanks! RonnieR October 12th, 2010, 07:48 AM ^^ Sad....I hope the official launch comes very soon. This is really a great project of Century skalet3 October 12th, 2010, 12:44 PM Hi Guys, we were asked to delete this thread as per Century memo banning all info of the project before official launch. See how the developers monitor SSC now.. :cheers: Mods, Please facilitate. Thanks! Its a shame that someone at CPI wants to keep this a secret. 7 floors are already up for sale. the 2 topfloors are on hold for executives.( took a peak at the CPI sellchart) īts in many peoples intrest where exactly the tower will be placed in the area. The impact is severe. My guess: right corner of grem...45 meters between grem and kalaayan. call it phase 2 if you want. Still a shame...those things belong in north korea anone October 12th, 2010, 01:21 PM baka naman sa SSC lang gusto i-secreto ng CPI ang project na ito dahil buking na sila dito sa kanilang PANLOLOKO. :D :lol: duda pa ako na ginamit nila ang VERSACE pati na rin yung mga pictures sa website ng VERSACE HOME ng walang permiso. :D :lol: leechtat October 12th, 2010, 02:33 PM ^^ Yes. They called me and requested me to delete the thread since i started the thread. There was a memo from the Antonios to keep everything mum as of now. We can reactivate it after public launch. :) Mods, Pls Facilitate. REDD808 October 12th, 2010, 03:27 PM last update from my senior international marketing group is the selling price of the prking, same rate as gram, not bad. i kinda like the townhouse units with wading pools in the balcony, im waiting for the official decision whether to allow units with no parking since i already have a parking slot in gram.likewise i havent seen the actual site and orientation/direction of the building yet, cant make a decision. hmmm... tchitz October 12th, 2010, 08:44 PM Hi Guys, we were asked to delete this thread as per Century memo banning all info of the project before official launch. See how the developers monitor SSC now.. :cheers: Mods, Please facilitate. Thanks! My take: Skyscrapercity is a public forum and not within the reach or control of any developer to delete this thread. You merely started the thread, but you do not hold the rights for it to be deleted, much more Century. Once a thread is started, anyone can post and contribute to it. I say too bad for Century. This forum is merely a free exchange of information which is available to all and forumers here has the right to continue their posting and exchange of information. absolutblue October 12th, 2010, 09:05 PM I await the new, official render with excitement :lol: Eaton Square October 12th, 2010, 09:11 PM as they say: the show must go on. --SuperB0y-- October 12th, 2010, 10:07 PM ^^ century has no good experience with SSC, that's why they don't want a thread about Milan here. baka marami daw makabasa ng mga reklamo hehe. diz October 13th, 2010, 12:08 AM ^^ Yes. They called me and requested me to delete the thread since i started the thread. There was a memo from the Antonios to keep everything mum as of now. We can reactivate it after public launch. :) Mods, Pls Facilitate. means they want us to forget about the current design as they will come out with a new, more cost effective one in the future. Century officials can go suck a dick. richard24 October 13th, 2010, 12:35 AM i heard about the non-official media ban din from a friend from Century. my take, this is a very very wrong move. with a project like this, you need all the hype you can get to make the market excited. but oh well, I'm not the Antonio's. My guess, they're going to change the render we've seen. I want to think positive about this project, but the name Century makes me think otherwise. too bad. REDD808 October 13th, 2010, 01:15 AM I DONT REALLY understand why there is a need to stop this when the clients are getting the same information directly through our emails. maybe its more on the marketing strategy or perhaps competitor strategy to increase market stir and somehow "shake" and "rock" the boat leechtat October 13th, 2010, 03:43 AM OK Century Marketing. I tried to have this thread closed as you can read. But SSC has been doing this for all projects in the Metro. So no need to be wary. The show is moving on. :applause: RonnieR October 13th, 2010, 04:15 AM OK Century Marketing. I tried to have this thread closed as you can read. But SSC has been doing this for all projects in the Metro. So no need to be wary. The show is moving on. :applause: This is the right move. No need to close this thread. anone October 13th, 2010, 07:24 AM dapat lang na hindi isarado ang thread na ito para maging gabay sa mga nagbabalak bumili sa BAIT & SWITCH na CPI. hintayin na lang ulit natin kung maglalabas ng picture si MANLOLOKONG AMBASSADOR ANTONIO na katabi si Donatela katulad nung nilabas nilang picture noon na katabi and Jerde. anakngpasig October 13th, 2010, 01:48 PM CPI doesn't own this forum Kintoy October 13th, 2010, 02:43 PM OK Century Marketing. I tried to have this thread closed as you can read. But SSC has been doing this for all projects in the Metro. So no need to be wary. The show is moving on. :applause: I hope they wont retaliate on you. but like anakpasig said, this is a forum, they dont own this. leechtat October 13th, 2010, 04:15 PM ^^ I knew the mods will not delete the thread nor the forumers shall agree to the ban, at least century will see that i tried. So I tried. :) Read century! SSC has been one of the first places to review up and coming projects from developers/builders. This will not change so long as there are information and insiders in this forum. We are here cause we all love developments! So, yay! maczilla October 13th, 2010, 06:35 PM I don't see why they have to zero in on skyscrapercity. I have not seen anything here that's not available in countless ads over the net offering the Milan bldg for sale. ang dami kaya. even the supposed renders shown here are readily available on the net. leechtat October 13th, 2010, 07:11 PM ^^ may specifics kasi na nakalagay here like yung loggia, etc.. also madami ditong buyers.. i assumed they called the people also who posted ads on the interwebs.. Canon_in_D October 13th, 2010, 07:55 PM That green patch isnt exactly small. It just seems like it because of the size of the excavated pits. I suggest that you use the dumptrucks and other vehicles in the photo as your refference for your scale. By the way, the Milano will have a slightly smaller radius than Knightsbridge since its a low-density development. :) hhhmmm I can see your point rough , base on the rendering of Milan. Noticed the shape of Milan which is distinctly almost same shape as KB and as you have stated both establishment will be sharing the turnaround which makes more sense. It would be an awesome combination with Milan's geometric lights and Knightsbridge's lanterns when lighted it would be an amazing sight at night. Great to take a walk after dinner while sipping your after dinner coffee/tea, walking in an array of lights while enjoying the evening breeze. And i think an added bonus ( just my wishful thinking) it would be great if they would build a fountain perhaps by the turnaround, that would just complete the ambiance. :cheer: Simply a fantastic plan. :applause::bow: jacknjill October 13th, 2010, 11:08 PM :) hhhmmm I can see your point rough , base on the rendering of Milan. Noticed the shape of Milan which is distinctly almost same shape as KB and as you have stated both establishment will be sharing the turnaround which makes more sense. It would be an awesome combination with Milan's geometric lights and Knightsbridge's lanterns when lighted it would be an amazing sight at night. Great to take a walk after dinner while sipping your after dinner coffee/tea, walking in an array of lights while enjoying the evening breeze. And i think an added bonus ( just my wishful thinking) it would be great if they would build a fountain perhaps by the turnaround, that would just complete the ambiance. :cheer: Simply a fantastic plan. :applause::bow: ^^^^^^ Wishfull thinking!!:lol: Don't hold your breath though! With "Ambassador Php 20 Million" at the helm I won't touch Milan with a ten foot pole. Here is a dubious thought. What if CP decided to change the name of this project just to start fresh on SSC?:nuts: But seriously, if I was going to buy a Milan condo, I will ask the agent to attach the brochure they used to convince me to buy. This way, this is a proof of what I bought and any significant change is a ground for cancellation of the sale PLUS damages to be paid to me by CP.:banana::cheers: Also, I advise future buyers of Milan to invest Php 1,000 or Php 2,000 to have their sales contract explained to them by a lawyer BEFORE signing on the dotted line, specially the sentences that start with: ".... we reserve the right....," "...the builder is not responsible for..." "...the buyer is responsible for...," etc. :lol: :cheers::nuts: If only CP and its head, "Ambassador Php 20 million" were honest to buyers maybe just maybe, the buyers would have been understanding and forgiving. BUT no, they made their changes while everyone was sleeping.:ohno::bash::ohno: I heard some buyers tried contacting Jerde in Los Angeles to confirm Jerde's connection to Gramercy Residences (another project of CP) but they didn't get any response from Jerde. These buyers were thinking of suing Jerde for false advertising.:cheers: In the US false advertising is a very serious crime and under SEC rules, parties guilty of this crime are liable for monetary damages as well as imprisonment. So, I guess JERDE is wary about its involvement with "Ambassador Php 20 million." It will stain their professional reputation worldwide.:ohno: jacknjill October 13th, 2010, 11:26 PM Its a shame that someone at CPI wants to keep this a secret. 7 floors are already up for sale. the 2 topfloors are on hold for executives.( took a peak at the CPI sellchart) īts in many peoples intrest where exactly the tower will be placed in the area. The impact is severe. My guess: right corner of grem...45 meters between grem and kalaayan. call it phase 2 if you want. Still a shame...those things belong in north korea ^^^^^^ If it smells like a rotten egg, then it must be!! If there's smoke, then there's fire!! Milan's rendering, it's not worth the paper it is drawn on. For future buyers, I don't advise you NOT TO BUY a Milan condo BUT if you do just DO YOUR HOMEWORK so you don't get unpleasant surprises.:nuts: REDD808 October 14th, 2010, 01:22 AM :) hhhmmm I can see your point rough , base on the rendering of Milan. Noticed the shape of Milan which is distinctly almost same shape as KB and as you have stated both establishment will be sharing the turnaround which makes more sense. It would be an awesome combination with Milan's geometric lights and Knightsbridge's lanterns when lighted it would be an amazing sight at night. Great to take a walk after dinner while sipping your after dinner coffee/tea, walking in an array of lights while enjoying the evening breeze. And i think an added bonus ( just my wishful thinking) it would be great if they would build a fountain perhaps by the turnaround, that would just complete the ambiance. :cheer: Simply a fantastic plan. :applause::bow: as a matter of fact you are right, kb and milan are sharing that portion of the cp property and there will be a piazza in the middle of them, actually, its more of milan, and another wide area for kb. where kb faces makati slightly tilted towards gram, milan is directly facing gram, its definitely going to be scene watching these beauties at night. Mitch_Rivera October 14th, 2010, 02:40 AM My take: CPI is not necessarily banning the thread. What is banned are the pictures spreading from what they call "Unofficial Media" which includes: emails, discussion boards/forums, facebook, and the long list goes on. What is allowed is for agents to forward the link to the official MILANO Residences by Versace Home to any interested buyer/prospect/ because this is embodied in the official agreement between Versace Home and Century Properties. This is how strict VERSACE HOME is and the Antonios are just bent on respecting that given the fact that the partnership itself was no easy endeavor to begin with, but still it happened. Of course we can talk about it. But pictures should never be spreading elsewhere because, Versace Home in Italy strictly monitors the web. Century is required to ask for Versace Home's approval in Italy before any form of media pertaining this project is released - because of the stellar reputation Versace Home upholds. Naturally, Century is required to strictly abide by these terms. tchitz October 14th, 2010, 04:50 AM My take: CPI is not necessarily banning the thread. What is banned are the pictures spreading from what they call "Unofficial Media" which includes: emails, discussion boards/forums, facebook, and the long list goes on. What is allowed is for agents to forward the link to the official MILANO Residences by Versace Home to any interested buyer/prospect/ because this is embodied in the official agreement between Versace Home and Century Properties. This is how strict VERSACE HOME is and the Antonios are just bent on respecting that given the fact that the partnership itself was no easy endeavor to begin with, but still it happened. Of course we can talk about it. But pictures should never be spreading elsewhere because, Versace Home in Italy strictly monitors the web. Century is required to ask for Versace Home's approval in Italy before any form of media pertaining this project is released - because of the stellar reputation Versace Home upholds. Naturally, Century is required to strictly abide by these terms. ...What is banned are the pictures spreading from what they call "Unofficial Media" which includes: emails, discussion boards/forums, facebook, and the long list goes on... ...This is how strict VERSACE HOME is... ...pictures should never be spreading elsewhere because, Versace Home in Italy strictly monitors the web... ... Century is required to ask for Versace Home's approval in Italy before any form of media pertaining this project is released - because of the stellar reputation Versace Home upholds. Naturally, Century is required to strictly abide by these terms... Well, I find the above statements/explanations absurd, ridiculous, unenforceable, laughable and borders on paranoia - making much ado over nothing. Once interested buyers/prospects have been given pictures/renderings of this project, said pictures now becomes in the public domain, and is not within their realm of authority for them to ban. On what legal grounds can such banning the spread of pictures through Unofficial Media that includes emails, discussion board/forums, facebook and the likes, stand on? Nada, Zip, Nothing! And then to impute that they are doing this because of the stellar reputation Versace Home upholds, is a lot of crap to put it mildly, or Idiotic to put it sarcastically. First, know your legal basis before making such a ban, else you become the laughing stock of the world that will spread through Unofficial Media which includes emails, discussion boards/forums, facebook, and the long list goes on. tchitz October 14th, 2010, 05:24 AM Monaco's Princess Caroline asks European court to ban photos http://globalnation.inquirer.net/news/breakingnews/view/20101014-297661/Monacos-Princess-Caroline-asks-European-court-to-ban-photos Interestingly enough, I came across the above article, and I am posting it here because it has relevance to what I was explaining previously. If Century or Versace Home would like to ban the spread of their project pictures, stand on legal grounds by petitioning the court for a ban. Idiots! Kintoy October 14th, 2010, 10:49 AM they can file a DMCA takedown if they can prove that the images posted here are theirs (limited to US, but if skyscrapercity.com is based in the US they may have the chance) REDD808 October 16th, 2010, 05:09 PM special offer for milano investors, offered by cpi, 100k dp for townhouse and ph units, and just 75k for the rest. with the g.e. medical partnership on the way and the rest of the residential buildings on the drawing board, oh my, why should should one not invest here? mostly, if investment diversification is to be considered, dont invest if you have more than half of your dispensable assets on the same type of investment, second dont invest if you have to borrow with interest, third dont invest if you are not happy with it, its not good for your fortune. jacknjill October 17th, 2010, 02:10 AM special offer for milano investors, offered by cpi, 100k dp for townhouse and ph units, and just 75k for the rest. with the g.e. medical partnership on the way and the rest of the residential buildings on the drawing board, oh my, why should should one not invest here? mostly, if investment diversification is to be considered, dont invest if you have more than half of your dispensable assets on the same type of investment, second dont invest if you have to borrow with interest, third dont invest if you are not happy with it, its not good for your fortune. ^^^^ I agree with your cautions. But the main issue here is, what is a would-be- investor investing in?:ohno: The design of the building is a work-in-progress just like Gramercy. Unlike in buying a car, the picture on the brochure is what you get. But with regard to CPI, the picture on the brochure is just a bait to hook a would-be customer. :nuts: There are many investors of Gramercy that were burned due to the bait and switch tactics used by CPI. So, what assurance can CPI give to investors that the pictures on their brochures and advertising materials will be one and the same building delivered when completed? Or, will they again use the phrase "....we reserve the right to alter the design of the buillding," to justify the difference between the rendering and the actual building? :bash: :lol: If I was buying from CPI I will cross-out all the "IFs" and "Buts" appearing on their sales contract and I will have them attach the picture they used to sales talk me into buying, and I will require their Chairman of the Board to sign on the dotted line with his blood.:nuts: REDD808 October 17th, 2010, 05:04 AM ^^^^ I agree with your cautions. But the main issue here is, what is a would-be- investor investing in?:ohno: The design of the building is a work-in-progress just like Gramercy. Unlike in buying a car, the picture on the brochure is what you get. But with regard to CPI, the picture on the brochure is just a bait to hook a would-be customer. :nuts: There are many investors of Gramercy that were burned due to the bait and switch tactics used by CPI. So, what assurance can CPI give to investors that the pictures on their brochures and advertising materials will be one and the same building delivered when completed? Or, will they again use the phrase "....we reserve the right to alter the design of the buillding," to justify the difference between the rendering and the actual building? :bash: :lol: If I was buying from CPI I will cross-out all the "IFs" and "Buts" appearing on their sales contract and I will have them attach the picture they used to sales talk me into buying, and I will require their Chairman of the Board to sign on the dotted line with his blood.:nuts: I COMPLETELY AGREE with you, thats why i have all the pre selling brochures and even my floor plan with the measurements downloaded during the first few months of the selling period, likewise, i have the cd presentations of the sales and marketing group. As a general rule, pre selling condos are risk purchases as not even the banks would take it for a loan, however, risks taken should be weighed by the investor, if you are over 50 yo and if what your investing is your life savings, i dont suggest you get into it, better yet buy some bond funds or r.o.p. bonds with secured principal so you can sleep well at night. for younger investors with more than one source of income and has more years working ahead, this could turn out one of the best decisions you ever made. jacknjill October 17th, 2010, 03:48 PM I COMPLETELY AGREE with you, thats why i have all the pre selling brochures and even my floor plan with the measurements downloaded during the first few months of the selling period, likewise, i have the cd presentations of the sales and marketing group. As a general rule, pre selling condos are risk purchases as not even the banks would take it for a loan, however, risks taken should be weighed by the investor, if you are over 50 yo and if what your investing is your life savings, i dont suggest you get into it, better yet buy some bond funds or r.o.p. bonds with secured principal so you can sleep well at night. for younger investors with more than one source of income and has more years working ahead, this could turn out one of the best decisions you ever made. ^^^^^^ You are right REDD808, if you are an investor; however, many of those buying are real home-buyers who intend to live there for any period of time, full time or part-time. So it is so unfair for those buyers who feel they have been victimized by the "bait and switch" scheme. :ohno: I heard a class action suit by the California State Attorney General is being considered against Jerde for false advertising regarding CPI's Gramercy project.:ohno: REDD808 October 17th, 2010, 05:37 PM ^^^^^^ You are right REDD808, if you are an investor; however, many of those buying are real home-buyers who intend to live there for any period of time, full time or part-time. So it is so unfair for those buyers who feel they have been victimized by the "bait and switch" scheme. :ohno: I heard a class action suit by the California State Attorney General is being considered against Jerde for false advertising regarding CPI's Gramercy project.:ohno: whether for a home, second home or lease and sale, i would say its still an investment in everyway. So its still the investors risk appetite and choice of type of investments, its really just that in anyway. Again, at the end of the day, its best not to put all your eggs into one basket. CPI or not, its got an up and a down side in every investment. Its the balancing of the entire portfolio that matters, because there is really no guarantee to anything under the sun, except for change. And change we must. TokyoToffee October 21st, 2010, 06:49 AM Hi All, I bought a Knightsbridge apartment and am now going to buy a Milano apartment too. I had a few questions if someone would be good enough to answer it would be appreciated; A -- Why all the negativity about Century? Have they changed alot of the designs from pre-sale stage onwards? B -- If Versace Home are partnering with Century on this project surely they will ensure high standards are met so not to tarnish their reputation? C -- How to calculate the rental which these properties would fetch if they were already built today? D -- How much should they increase in value each year? E -- Should a Penthouse apartment increase in price more than a smaller unit? I.E is it worth buying a PH or 2 1bed apartments if the total was the same? F -- The Gramercy,Knightsbridge and Milano will all be in the same complex. Which order would you put them in for best value? G -- How does this location compare with properties at Greenbelt as they seem to be a similar price? H -- Will the market in Makati be flooded once so many condos are built? I -- Where do you see the century city area with 3 condos being ranked in terms of prestige once its all built? J -- Which views are most popular for Filipinos -- Makati view or the view towards the river? Thanks in advance :) Flaminio October 21st, 2010, 07:49 AM Hi TokyoToffee and welcome to Skyscrapercity forum. To reply to most of your questions a crystal ball is required. I'm on my way to Megamall.. I hope to find one which works good... Ciao. Flaminio. KCJ08 October 21st, 2010, 07:53 AM Hi All, I bought a Knightsbridge apartment and am now going to buy a Milano apartment too. I had a few questions if someone would be good enough to answer it would be appreciated; A -- Why all the negativity about Century? Have they changed alot of the designs from pre-sale stage onwards? Gramercy was the first building to be built by Century at this site. The render that was provided at first showed one thing and when the construction took place, changes were made. This is where all the negativity started as the designs were definitely not as what was originally portrayed. People don't seem to understand what render means. Render means, "A drawing in perspective of a proposed structure." And it has also been clear from the beginning that the developer has the right to make any changes to the design. A lot of the people complaining are actually not investors themselves. I, myself, am an investor of both Gramercy and Knightsbridge, and I, for one, know that changes could be made of the design of the building. B -- If Versace Home are partnering with Century on this project surely they will ensure high standards are met so not to tarnish their reputation? Definitely! C -- How to calculate the rental which these properties would fetch if they were already built today? Whatever the current price of your condo unit, the standard rental price is 1%. So if your unit is worth 5M then the standard monthly rental fee is 50K. This is of course basic, with no furniture or appliances. D -- How much should they increase in value each year? Currently, they are raising prices every 3 - 4 months. How much, it would just depend also on the market supply and demand. Currently, Makati is the place to invest. E -- Should a Penthouse apartment increase in price more than a smaller unit? I.E is it worth buying a PH or 2 1bed apartments if the total was the same? Knowing penthouse price and design, it is definitely more expensive than a one or two BR apartment combined as the height of the condo unit itself for the penthouse is a lot taller than your average condo unit height; Penthouse of course is higher up on the building than the average 2 BR condo. F -- The Gramercy,Knightsbridge and Milano will all be in the same complex. Which order would you put them in for best value? As of date, Gramercy and Milano are priced almost the same. Knightsbridge is a little less. I would assume that Milano would be more expensive than both soon. G -- How does this location compare with properties at Greenbelt as they seem to be a similar price? At this point, Century City is less expensive than Greenbelt but as the place matures and has all the amenities that Greenbelt does, I'm sure that the price would be very competitive. Especially with the state of the art medical building that Century City is placing, this place has the most potential to increase in value quickly. H -- Will the market in Makati be flooded once so many condos are built? It probably will be but certainly not in the near future, certainly not in our lifetime. Makati will continue to evolve and remain the number one place to be. I -- Where do you see the century city area with 3 condos being ranked in terms of prestige once its all built? Milano 1st, Gramercy 2nd, and Knightsbridge 3rd J -- Which views are most popular for Filipinos -- Makati view or the view towards the river? Makati View!!! Thanks in advance :) Hope this helps you out. jacknjill October 21st, 2010, 07:12 PM [QUOTE= Originally Posted by TokyoToffee Hi All, I bought a Knightsbridge apartment and am now going to buy a Milano apartment too. I had a few questions if someone would be good enough to answer it would be appreciated; A -- Why all the negativity about Century? Have they changed alot of the designs from pre-sale stage onwards? Gramercy was the first building to be built by Century at this site. The render that was provided at first showed one thing and when the construction took place, changes were made. This is where all the negativity started as the designs were definitely not as what was originally portrayed. People don't seem to understand what render means. Render means, "A drawing in perspective of a proposed structure." And it has also been clear from the beginning that the developer has the right to make any changes to the design. A lot of the people complaining are actually not investors themselves. I, myself, am an investor of both Gramercy and Knightsbridge, and I, for one, know that changes could be made of the design of the building. QUOTE] ^^^^ I am a condo buyer at Gramercy. I beg to differ regarding your interpretation of a render. The sales contract indicates that the builder reserves the right to make changes/alterations, yes that I agree. BUT, to change the actual building or complex to the point were there is no semblance to the original render is absolutely in my opinion an advertising deception. If you bought a Cadillac as shown on the brochure given to you by the salesman and a Jeepney is delivered instead does that mean that the salesman was authorized to do that because the brochure was just a representation by the salesman and it does not obligate him to deliver the Cadillac? However, if on the Gramercy sales brochure a disclaimer such as "actual building may not necessarily appear as the brochure" or in their video commercial presentation CPI indicated that the Jerde rendering may not necessarily be delivered as presented, then prospective buyers will be made aware that CPI's words regarding Gramercy are not to be taken seriously. Also, in the United States, major construction changes are preceded by a CHANGE ORDER approved by the owner/owners before the builder can proceed. You may argue that this is the Philippines, but common decency dictates that the builder should request the approval of the owner before making a "major open heart surgery" on Gramercy. But this is only my opinion. :cheers: Although I know that my investment on this project will be rewarded I am still very disappointed as a condo owner with regard to the severe change in the design. I intended to retire at Gramercy but have doubts now.:cheers: As an investor, perhaps I might consider Milano, but as a homeowner of a condo, I will not touch it with a ten foot pole until I see the finished product. .:ohno: :bash: PEACE!!:nuts: TokyoToffee October 22nd, 2010, 10:27 AM Hope this helps you out. Thanks for the feedback, much appreciated... 1 Other thing i was wondering -- Parking space. I'd wrongly assumed this would be included in the price :( For 600-675k PHP is it really worth it + how much value should it add? Sherwin M. Pelayo October 22nd, 2010, 12:07 PM Thanks for the feedback, much appreciated... 1 Other thing i was wondering -- Parking space. I'd wrongly assumed this would be included in the price :( For 600-675k PHP is it really worth it + how much value should it add? Hi TokyoToffee, I bought a unit at Knightsbridge and wasn't really thinking of buying parking space because of the hefty price. I found out, however, that only 1 out of 4 units can avail of parking space. For the sake then of convenience, safety/security, and car maintenance, I opted to take one. I imagine that there will be similar ratios in Gramercy and Milan. With a safe assumption that every owner in these three condos will have cars, I think having your own parking space would be a necessity. Renting a parking space could probably be around PhP 5,000 per month. Kintoy October 22nd, 2010, 10:56 PM what good is having a unit in an upscale condo if you dont have a parking space? I assume that if you can afford a unit in Milan, Knightsbridge or Gramercy you probably will have a car too boju2 October 28th, 2010, 03:43 PM Century, Versace partner in P3-B designer condo (http://www.gmanews.tv/story/204585/century-versace-partner-in-p3-b-designer-condo) 10/28/2010 | 04:55 PM (Updated 5:20 p.m.) Century Properties on Thursday said it has partnered with Milan, Italy-based Versace, the world-renowned fashion-luxury brand, and is investing over P3 billion for the residential development, called The Milano Residences. The 24-year-old Philippine developer, whose track record in luxury projects includes the award-winning Essensa East Forbes in Manila by Pei Partnership Architects and I.M. Pei is collaborating with the interior designers of Versace Home to design the public spaces of The Milano Residences, a first for the international brand in Southeast Asia. The Milano Residences will be completed by 2015 in the 3.4-hectare Century City, the flagship mixed-use development of Century Properties in the financial center, Makati. The architecture will complement Versace Homes interior design in the grand lobby, hallways, lounge, library, pool garden, and spa. Versace Home will also create interior themes that residents may apply to their own units. To have a Versace Home interior-designed address presents a rare opportunity, and an immense value to both end users and investors as the units are very few and are considered collectible real estate," said Robbie Antonio, Century Properties managing director and The Milano Residences project head. The 340-unit development will have one- to three-bedroom units. Prime units in various sizes and layouts include The Penthouses, The Townhouses, and The Loggias Italian-inspired units with private plunge pools, Century said in a statement. By the first quarter of 2011, Century will open a showroom for The Milano Residences in Makatis Pacific Star Building. VS, GMANews.TV jacknjill October 29th, 2010, 04:58 AM Century, Versace partner in P3-B designer condo (http://www.gmanews.tv/story/204585/century-versace-partner-in-p3-b-designer-condo) 10/28/2010 | 04:55 PM By the first quarter of 2011, Century will open a showroom for The Milano Residences in Makatis Pacific Star Building. VS, GMANews.TV ^^^^ Just remember what you will see at the showroom IS NOT what you will get!!:bash::ohno: Look what happened to Gramercy. After all the hoopla and JERDE.... What prospective condo owners or investors should ask when they are at the showroom is ....On what planet will this model or render be built?:lol::lol: derf October 29th, 2010, 05:42 AM But they do have a disclaimer that the showroom only shows the possibility of what you can do with your unit. All developers do this. But the problem sometimes lie with the agents who can claim to unknowing potential investors, especially first timers, that this is close to what they will be getting. Of course, the investors will have that expectations which in all likelihood wouldnt be met. I think a law or regulation should somehow be in place for all developers who have model units, to at least show one deliverable unit without the fuss and enhancements, using exactly the same materials that will be turned over. Instead of making things hard for the agents (e.g. RESA law; a four year course to become a real estate agent?? Picture this: Mother: What would you wanna be when you grow up? Son: A real estate agent mommy.. Get real folks. :lol:), they should set their sights on developers instead. jacknjill October 30th, 2010, 01:03 AM But they do have a disclaimer that the showroom only shows the possibility of what you can do with your unit. All developers do this. But the problem sometimes lie with the agents who can claim to unknowing potential investors, especially first timers, that this is close to what they will be getting. Of course, the investors will have that expectations which in all likelihood wouldnt be met. I think a law or regulation should somehow be in place for all developers who have model units, to at least show one deliverable unit without the fuss and enhancements, using exactly the same materials that will be turned over. Instead of making things hard for the agents (e.g. RESA law; a four year course to become a real estate agent?? Picture this: Mother: What would you wanna be when you grow up? Son: A real estate agent mommy.. Get real folks. :lol:), they should set their sights on developers instead. ^^^^ Yes they have disclaimer about the possibilities of unit appearances, BUT, they don't have any disclaimer that the design of the building itself may drastically change or may not have any semblance with the model or render presented to would-be buyers.:nuts: derf October 30th, 2010, 01:24 AM ^^^^ Yes they have disclaimer about the possibilities of unit appearances, BUT, they don't have any disclaimer that the design of the building itself may drastically change or may not have any semblance with the model or render presented to would-be buyers.:nuts: If thats the case, then the investors are really screwed... :lol: Youre supposed to come out with your project when you already have finalized everything. So anything that should be changed, whether unit layouts or the design itself, should be minimal only. zandro888 October 30th, 2010, 07:19 PM A lot of developers are practicing this already. They come out with a very nice design but when they are already finishing the building, they tend to cut costs and use less expensive materials.. jacknjill October 30th, 2010, 10:15 PM If thats the case, then the investors are really screwed... :lol: Youre supposed to come out with your project when you already have finalized everything. So anything that should be changed, whether unit layouts or the design itself, should be minimal only. ^^^^ Exactly! Any changes should be minimal only. Unfortunately, Ambassador Php 20 million (Chairman Jose Antonio) ay takaw mata and his partner, Jon Adams Jerde was gullible thinking he was getting a tried-and-true Filipino partner. Pati siya napasubo at naloko:ohno: :nuts: jacknjill October 30th, 2010, 10:24 PM A lot of developers are practicing this already. They come out with a very nice design but when they are already finishing the building, they tend to cut costs and use less expensive materials.. ^^^^ But in the case of Gramercy, CPI completely changed the building structure. CPI chopped off one-third of the building, removed the commercial portion, and completely revised Jerde's design without informing the buyers/investors, a classic example of "bait and switch." :ohno: :nuts: Mojo Jojo October 31st, 2010, 09:49 PM A lot of developers are practicing this already. They come out with a very nice design but when they are already finishing the building, they tend to cut costs and use less expensive materials.. Aside from CPI, may I know which other developers DRASTICALLY change the building from the render after pre-selling? Parang wala akong maisip na iba. Yung minor tweaks okay lang, pero yung drastic changes like removing portions of the building, meron pa bang ibang gumagawa nito bukod sa CPI? Sino? rubix_cube321 October 31st, 2010, 11:24 PM Century Properties and Versace Home in P3B condo project http://goodnewspilipinas.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Century-Properties-Versace.jpeg Century Properties partners with Versace Home, announces P3B investment plan for designer condo Century Properties has announced its partnership with Versace, the world-renowned fashion-luxury brand based in Milan, Italy and is investing over Php 3 billion for its newest residential project called The Milano Residences. The 24-year-old Philippine developer, whose track record in luxury projects includes the award-winning Essensa East Forbes in Manila (by Pei Partnership Architects and I.M. Pei), is collaborating with the interior designers of Versace Home to provide exclusive design service for the public spaces of The Milano Residences—a first for the international brand in Southeast Asia. With 53 floors The Milano Residences is slated for completion in 2015 and is set to rise in the 3.4-hectare Century City, the flagship mixed-use development of Century Properties in the country’s cosmopolitan financial center, Makati City. The building’s architecture is expected to complement Versace Home’s elegant interior design, which will be shown in the grand lobby, hallways, lounge, library, pool garden and spa. Versace Home will also create interior inspirations that residents may adopt for their own units. “Versace Home, the authority in showing the essential art of luxury living, is now in Manila through the Milano Residences. To have a Versace Home interior designed address presents a rare opportunity, and an immense value to both end users and investors for units are very few and are considered collectible real estate,” said Robbie Antonio, Project Head of The Milano Residences and Managing Director of Century Properties. The building is expected to have a total of 340 units with 1 to 3-bedroom configurations. Prime units in various sizes and layouts include The Penthouses, The Townhouses and Italian-inspired units called The Loggias that feature breathtaking private plunge pools – a first in a Makati condo. Century Properties is slated to formally open the showroom of The Milano Residences in the first quarter of 2011 at the Pacific Star Building in Makati. Visit www.themilanoresidences.com.ph. Century Properties is the largest privately-owned real estate firm in the Philippines, with 24 years of experience and expertise in real estate marketing, development and management. The company holds a formidable team of the most accomplished, creative and highly-regarded individuals in the industry, as well as a roster of some of the most unique, outstanding and visionary projects, including the Essensa East Forbes in Fort Bonifacio. Its real estate portfolio and pipeline covers 63 buildings under management and development as well as current projects with over 42 million square feet; and more than 10,000 residential, office and commercial units. www.century-properties.com Century City is the flagship development of Century Properties. It is a 3.4-hectare property in Kalayaan Avenue, Makati City, Philippines that is masterplanned by the Jerde Partnership and will comprise luxury residential buildings, Grade A office buildings and a retail center. Century City is envisioned to showcase the world’s best in one place. Founded in Milan in 1978 by Gianni Versace, one of the Twentieth Century’s most talented designers, Gianni Versace SpA is today a standard bearer of Italian excellence throughout the world. The company designs, manufactures, distributes and retails luxury products ranging from haute couture of Atelier Versace, to pręt-ā-porter collections, from jewellery to perfumes, from home furnishings to porcelain services for the table. In addition to the above, a variety of other projects relating to lifestyle and design also bear the Versace signature: luxury resorts and hotels, exclusive private residences and refined interior projects. The Versace Group distributes its products through a retail network of free-standing boutiques located in the world’s major cities and dedicated shop-in-shop spaces located in leading department stores and multibrand outlets. Source: http://goodnewspilipinas.com/?p=13189 rubix_cube321 November 4th, 2010, 07:04 AM Century Properties partners with Versace By Zinnia B. Dela Peņa (The Philippine Star) Updated October 29, 2010 12:00 AM Comments (0) MANILA, Philippines Upscale real estate developer Century Properties Inc. will put up a P3-billion, 53-story designer residential building within Century City, an integrated community along Kalayaan Avenue in Makati City. In a statement, Century Properties said it has tapped Versace, one of the worlds leading international fashion houses, to provide exclusive design service for the public spaces of its newest residential project, The Milano Residences. Founded in Milan in 1978 by Italian clothier Gianni Versace, the company designs, markets and distributes luxury clothing, accessories, fragrances, make-up and home furnishings under the various brands of the Versace Group. A variety of other projects relating to lifestyle and design also bear the Versace signature: Luxury resorts and hotels, exclusive private residences and refined interior projects. Slated for completion by 2015, The Milano Residences will make available a total of 340 units with one to three-bedroom configurations. Prime units in various sizes and layouts include The Penthouses, The Townhouses and Italian-inspired units called The Loggias that feature breathtaking private plunge pools a first in a Makati condo. Versace Home, the authority in showing the essential art of luxury living, is now in Manila through the Milano Residences. To have a Versace Home interior designed address presents a rare opportunity, and an immense value to both end users and investors for units are very few and are considered collectible real estate, said Robbie Antonio, project head of The Milano Residences and managing director of Century Properties. The buildings architecture is expected to complement Versace Homes elegant interior design, which will be shown in the grand lobby, hallways, lounge, library, pool garden and spa. Versace Home will also create interior inspirations that residents may adopt for their own units. The Milano Residences is the latest residential project to rise in Century City, the flagship development of Century Properties. Masterplanned by the Jerde Partnership, the 3.4-hectare Century City, comprising luxury residential buildings, Grade A office buildings and a retail center, is envisioned to showcase the worlds best in one place. The 24-year-old Century Properties is known for its track record in developing luxury projects which include the award-winning Essensa East Forbes in Fort Bonifacio. Its real estate portfolio and pipeline covers 63 buildings under management and development as well as current projects with over 42 million square feet; and more than 10,000 residential, office and commercial units. source: http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=625081&publicationSubCategoryId=66 rubix_cube321 November 4th, 2010, 07:20 AM 3d images of the milano from the century website: amenities: http://lh5.ggpht.com/_440aGZY4m2Y/TNJCKbW10lI/AAAAAAAABsU/asv8JtijkG0/juice%20bar.jpg http://lh5.ggpht.com/_440aGZY4m2Y/TNJCKzBXa1I/AAAAAAAABsY/jI1Bbr6L2dM/library.jpg http://lh5.ggpht.com/_440aGZY4m2Y/TNJCLkWIIdI/AAAAAAAABsc/CJEcB2jz1BI/piazza.jpg http://lh5.ggpht.com/_440aGZY4m2Y/TNJCMA-yplI/AAAAAAAABsg/zrYPXxbHY-4/business%20center.jpg http://lh4.ggpht.com/_440aGZY4m2Y/TNJCM2Q-7dI/AAAAAAAABsk/rFYHW0477Bk/spa.jpg http://lh5.ggpht.com/_440aGZY4m2Y/TNJCOKpu6YI/AAAAAAAABss/EACKlvWkWWI/pool.jpg http://lh3.ggpht.com/_440aGZY4m2Y/TNJCPGyUy9I/AAAAAAAABsw/WgaW8Sgic_4/grand%20lobby.jpg maczilla November 4th, 2010, 07:57 AM Building looks great (if they remain faithful to the renders) but i am not too thrilled on the interiors. too trendy. will look dated in a few years imho. anone November 4th, 2010, 10:38 AM ayan naglabas na naman ng kaakit-akit na rendering/3d images ang bait and switch na CPI. PAALALA ULIT: Kung gusto nyong masulit ang perang pinaghirapan nyong kitain ay HUWAG BUMILI SA CPI! NO. 1 MANLOLOKO ANG CPI! richard24 November 4th, 2010, 12:31 PM The interiors look gorgeous! pero... weh? di nga? I hope the finished product is good since its about time CPI uses a new catch for their company, naka ilang project na sila na puro essesa nalang laman ng press release nila ah? leechtat November 4th, 2010, 12:44 PM i am liking the interior though. i hope those details on the columns at the pool and juice bar will be less colorful though. REDD808 November 4th, 2010, 01:12 PM 3d images of the milano from the century website: amenities: http://lh5.ggpht.com/_440aGZY4m2Y/TNJCKbW10lI/AAAAAAAABsU/asv8JtijkG0/juice%20bar.jpg http://lh5.ggpht.com/_440aGZY4m2Y/TNJCKzBXa1I/AAAAAAAABsY/jI1Bbr6L2dM/library.jpg http://lh5.ggpht.com/_440aGZY4m2Y/TNJCLkWIIdI/AAAAAAAABsc/CJEcB2jz1BI/piazza.jpg http://lh5.ggpht.com/_440aGZY4m2Y/TNJCMA-yplI/AAAAAAAABsg/zrYPXxbHY-4/business%20center.jpg http://lh4.ggpht.com/_440aGZY4m2Y/TNJCM2Q-7dI/AAAAAAAABsk/rFYHW0477Bk/spa.jpg http://lh5.ggpht.com/_440aGZY4m2Y/TNJCOKpu6YI/AAAAAAAABss/EACKlvWkWWI/pool.jpg http://lh3.ggpht.com/_440aGZY4m2Y/TNJCPGyUy9I/AAAAAAAABsw/WgaW8Sgic_4/grand%20lobby.jpg i like the general building design and architecture, but the interiors are too colorful, maybe im not a versace fan, i would rather have the bmw lifestyle design, maybe its going to be more fit for my lifestyle, but i dont think bmw has already diversified to home furnishings and interiors besides their clothing and sports wear San-Mat November 4th, 2010, 02:22 PM Century Properties partners with Versace By Zinnia B. Dela Peņa (The Philippine Star) Updated October 29, 2010 12:00 AM Comments (0) MANILA, Philippines – Upscale real estate developer Century Properties Inc. will put up a P3-billion, 53-story designer residential building within Century City, an integrated community along Kalayaan Avenue in Makati City. In a statement, Century Properties said it has tapped Versace, one of the world’s leading international fashion houses, to provide exclusive design service for the public spaces of its newest residential project, The Milano Residences. Founded in Milan in 1978 by Italian clothier Gianni Versace, the company designs, markets and distributes luxury clothing, accessories, fragrances, make-up and home furnishings under the various brands of the Versace Group. A variety of other projects relating to lifestyle and design also bear the Versace signature: Luxury resorts and hotels, exclusive private residences and refined interior projects. Slated for completion by 2015, The Milano Residences will make available a total of 340 units with one to three-bedroom configurations. Prime units in various sizes and layouts include The Penthouses, The Townhouses and Italian-inspired units called The Loggias that feature breathtaking private plunge pools – a first in a Makati condo. “Versace Home, the authority in showing the essential art of luxury living, is now in Manila through the Milano Residences. To have a Versace Home interior designed address presents a rare opportunity, and an immense value to both end users and investors for units are very few and are considered collectible real estate,” said Robbie Antonio, project head of The Milano Residences and managing director of Century Properties. The building’s architecture is expected to complement Versace Home’s elegant interior design, which will be shown in the grand lobby, hallways, lounge, library, pool garden and spa. Versace Home will also create interior inspirations that residents may adopt for their own units. The Milano Residences is the latest residential project to rise in Century City, the flagship development of Century Properties. Masterplanned by the Jerde Partnership, the 3.4-hectare Century City, comprising luxury residential buildings, Grade A office buildings and a retail center, is envisioned to showcase the world’s best in one place. The 24-year-old Century Properties is known for its track record in developing luxury projects which include the award-winning Essensa East Forbes in Fort Bonifacio. Its real estate portfolio and pipeline covers 63 buildings under management and development as well as current projects with over 42 million square feet; and more than 10,000 residential, office and commercial units. source: http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=625081&publicationSubCategoryId=66 The common areas are really interior designed by Versace. This time they actually said that they will create inspirations for that residence may adopt. Instead of making people believe that is the unit they will get. Good plan for Century City to use Versace's brand to market the building. To be honest I bet some of the Filipino interior designers can do as good a job interior designing the common areas but Versace's is a great marketing touch. It really makes them believe they are buying 1st class property. Now investors just have to interior decorate their condo unit to match Versace's interior design to get the full effect of the Milano Residences. jacknjill November 4th, 2010, 07:36 PM 3d images of the milano from the century website: amenities: http://lh5.ggpht.com/_440aGZY4m2Y/TNJCKbW10lI/AAAAAAAABsU/asv8JtijkG0/juice%20bar.jpg http://lh5.ggpht.com/_440aGZY4m2Y/TNJCKzBXa1I/AAAAAAAABsY/jI1Bbr6L2dM/library.jpg http://lh5.ggpht.com/_440aGZY4m2Y/TNJCLkWIIdI/AAAAAAAABsc/CJEcB2jz1BI/piazza.jpg http://lh5.ggpht.com/_440aGZY4m2Y/TNJCMA-yplI/AAAAAAAABsg/zrYPXxbHY-4/business%20center.jpg http://lh4.ggpht.com/_440aGZY4m2Y/TNJCM2Q-7dI/AAAAAAAABsk/rFYHW0477Bk/spa.jpg http://lh5.ggpht.com/_440aGZY4m2Y/TNJCOKpu6YI/AAAAAAAABss/EACKlvWkWWI/pool.jpg http://lh3.ggpht.com/_440aGZY4m2Y/TNJCPGyUy9I/AAAAAAAABsw/WgaW8Sgic_4/grand%20lobby.jpg ^^^^^^ LOOKS VERY MUCH LIKE "IKEA" interior. Siguro kasama sa interior advisers ang IKEA in addition to Versace. :lol: :lol: :lol: Bakit puro ESSENSA Towers ang sinasabi, bakit iyong ibang projects hindi binabanggit? :lol: :ohno: :nuts: :cheers: For those IKEA fans, these MILANO condos may be your ideal condos.:banana: :nuts: :lol: rubix_cube321 November 7th, 2010, 03:15 AM Versace is coming to Makati LIFE & STYLE By Millet M. Mananquil (The Philippine Star) Updated November 06, 2010 12:00 AM http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/861/lif17canvass.jpg Haute couture goes high rise: The Milano Residences, the first designer condo in the country, is a partnership between Century Properties and Versace Home. Located at the futuristic Century City in Kalayaan Avenue, Makati, Milano Residences will be completed by 2015. Yes, Versace is coming to Makati. Not through the opening of a boutique alongside other fashion giants Hermes, Louis Vuitton and Prada. It will be something bigger and grander as big as a residential condominium and as grand as a 53-storey, P3-billion project. Called the Milano Residences, this designer condominium, the first by the Versace Group in Southeast Asia, will rise in the 3.4-hectare Century City, the flagship mixed-use development of Century Properties in Makati, which includes luxury residential towers like the New York-inspired Gramercy Residences, the London-inspired Knightsbridge Residences, an IT park, a medical IT building and a shopping center. The Milan-inspired Milano Residences will be interior designed by Versace Home and this Italian brands exquisite imprint will be seen in the grand lobby, hallways, lounge, library, pool, garden and spa. Versace Home will also create inspirations that residents may adopt for their own units. Now thats what you may call collectible real estate. There will be 340 units that include one- to three-bedroom units, as well as The Penthouses, The Townhouses (already sold out), and Italian-inspired units called The Loggias, which feature breathtaking private plunge pools a first in a Makati condo. Century Properties, headed by the fearless innovator Joey Antonio, has this habit of creating firsts in the real estate industry. I remember that Joey was the first to envision a then seemingly ambitious luxury project designed by the I.M. Pei team the Essensa which I consider one of the best-designed condos in Metro Manila. Think of a floor-to-ceiling panoramic view from your breakfast nook, and you get the picture. Joey was also the first to offer fully-furnished condos through the SOMA Residences at The Fort. And now, other condominium builders are doing similar projects. This eye for creativity and a remarkable work ethic were obviously absorbed by his sons Jigger, Marco, Robbie and Carlo, who embrace their fathers vision while offering their own personal insights. Fashion team-up of the Century: Sealing the partnership in Milan, Italy are Century Properties managing director Robbie Antonio, Versace chairman and presitdent Santo Versace, and Versace executive officer Gian Giacomo Ferraris. Collectible real estate was precisely the catchphrase in Robbie Antonios mind when he was appointed project head of the Milano Residences by Century Properties. Himself looking dapper and fashionable (smart-chic may be a better word for this dude who collected honors at Stanford U. and worked in New York soon after), Robbie tells us all about the Versace Home project rising in Makati, in between bites of aburi toro, ama ebi and grilled hamachi at Shangri-La Makatis Inagiku. http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/6163/lif17b300.jpg Fashion team-up of the Century: Sealing the partnership in Milan, Italy are Century Properties managing director Robbie Antonio, Versace chairman and presitdent Santo Versace, and Versace executive officer Gian Giacomo Ferraris Excerpts: THE PHILIPPINE STAR: What inspired you to do the Milano Residences in partnership with Versace Home? ROBBIE ANTONIO: Versace serves as the pinnacle of luxury, and what better way to create a novel concept by fusing high-impact design with real estate into an utterly distinctive package. Versace has extended its brand from fashion to other lifestyle concepts and so, for their Versace Home line, it was perfectly logical to combine the sophisticated elements of an internationally-recognized designer brand with pioneering real estate. Its livable fashion in its purest sense. When and where did you meet with the Versace Home group? I was in New York City where we were developing our hyper-luxury residential project off 5th Avenue. During that time frame, we were able to meet some of the worlds best industry practitioners global developers, five-star brands, Pritzker Prize architects and international brands and designers. I met with Versaces top management in New York City a few years ago and discussed the possibility of collaborating for our subsequent projects. Earlier this year, while our team at Century Properties was conceptualizing its third building in Century City, Makati, we realized that it was the opportune time to bring in Versace Home into Southeast Asia. Tell us about your meeting with Donatella Versace. And her brother Santo? We have been working with the Versace Home team and they have been great. They have been to Manila to check the site and we met in Milan several times this year I just saw Donatella a month ago during Womens Milan Fashion Week to discuss the property with her along with other key design and marketing team members. Two weeks thereafter, I flew back and saw Santo Versace to discuss Milano Residences with him and some other key design and marketing team members. Needless to say, Donatella and Santo are brilliant individuals in their own right. So edgy, so Versace: Classic with a twist is this rendering of the Milano Residences library area where that Versace purity of design is seen on the all-white furniture pieces and that quirky touch is felt on the throw pillows and on the floor. Will we see the Versace touch from the facade up to the details in the condo unit? Indubitably, Versace Homes design philosophy is showcased in the projects interiors. The amenity spaces and common areas have been painstakingly designed by Versace Home to reflect a lifestyle and embody a standard of living unlike any other building in the country. We are also furthering the brands design ethos by providing clients with the option to have their units furnished and detailed by Versace Home. There is something edgy, foxy, sexy and fabulous yet classic in a typical Versace design. Think Versace women and images of Jennifer Lopez, Halle Berry and Liz Hurley come to mind. Will we see this edginess and sexiness in the Milano Residences? Edgy, chic, provocative. Yes, these are words that would encapsulate the Milano Residences. The Versace myth, as it has been said many times, is centered on the idea of a world of glamour and sexiness. Milano Residences stays true to this adage by positioning itself as an avant-garde development, offering a lifestyle that has never been made available in Manila. http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2785/lif17c300.jpg So edgy, so Versace: Classic with a twist is this rendering of the Milano Residences library area where that Versace purity of design is seen on the all-white furniture pieces and that quirky touch is felt on the throw pillows and on the floor. You are a fashionable dresser yourself. Has Versace always been a personal favorite of yours? Thank you for the compliment. I have always considered Versace as a good benchmark of style and glamour. I always believe that design should not only emanate from the clothes you wear but should be incorporated into various facets of your life. It should be rooted into your surroundings from the couch that you sit on, to the drapes that give a room character, to the lamp that lights your entire room and to the tiles you look at in your bathroom when you are about to start your day. How hands-on are the Versace siblings when it comes to details for the Milano Residences? Pure elegance: From the chandeliers down to the furniture, you can feel that unique Versace stamp of high fashion that is translated in the Milano Residences lobby. Donatella Versace serves as the creative director of the Versace Group and manages an excellent team of designers. The interior details were carefully scrutinized by the group to showcase the brands unique and sophisticated persona. These renderings of the Milano interiors are so modern and quite impressive. Will the furnishings be 100 percent Versace Home? The amenities of Milano such as the grand double height lobby, lounge, swimming pool, library, pool garden, gym, roof garden, and spa were designed by Versace Home. As mentioned earlier, we are also offering customizable unit interiors for those who would like to have Versace Home-designed furniture, accent pieces, and bathroom finishes. http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/5994/lif17d350.jpg Pure elegance: From the chandeliers down to the furniture, you can feel that unique Versace stamp of high fashion that is translated in the Milano Residences lobby. Did you get to visit any of the Versace-designed projects in Australia and the Middle East? How different will the Makati project be? The Versace Home team flew to Manila and throughout the whole period of our collaboration we believe they have gathered an understanding of the cultural specifics preferred by the Philippine market. We believe this exercise helped them create a modern and elegant look that is both internationally recognized and locally formidable. Many of their designs and furniture were custom-made for the Milano Residences. What is your target market? How affordable will the units be? We are introducing our pre-selling price at roughly the same price per square meter vis-ā-vis luxury properties in Makati and Fort Bonifacio, which is quite a competitive value proposition for a product that is in a league on its own. Our clientele comprise the upscale genre with discriminating preferences in lifestyle and who believe these are limited-edition real estate units whose value would increase exponentially throughout time. At Century Properties, we believe that every project should be a class all its own and should create a sense of prestige. It is by providing the local market with better choices in terms of exceptional quality, impeccable design, and pride of ownership that we elevate the standards and expectations of the people, to what our clients truly want but have never been offered. We also have some very special features in our units close to 29 percent of our units will have outdoor private wading pools. Now that you are building this Versace Home-interior designed residential condominium, whats your next dream project? The country should be catapulted into new heights architecturally and conceptually so that local consumers and foreign expatriates alike can enjoy such products and espouse avant-garde ideas. Dubai and New York went through this; Abu Dhabi is going through it right now. Why not Manila ? Source: http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=627547&publicationSubCategoryId=85 rubix_cube321 November 7th, 2010, 03:29 AM The Milano Residences di Manila by Versace Home e Century Properties Nuova partenership per Versace Home e Century Properties che annunciano la costruzione di un progetto residenziale che sorgerā a Manila nell’area di Makati City. Una torre di 53 piani totalmente arredata da Versace Home: aree comuni, lobby, biblioteca e area wellness diventeranno interpreti del lifestyle della Maison. “Versace Home, simbolo del luxury lifestyle, č ora presente a Manila con The Milano Residences. L’ edificio, i cui interni sono firmati Versace Home, rappresenta sia per gli utenti finali che per gli investitori un’opportunitā unica ed di grandissimo valore, in quanto le singole residenze sono molto esclusive, veri e propri ‘gioielli’ da collezione”, ha dichiarato Robbie Antonio, responsabile di progetto The Milano Residences e Amministratore Delegato di Century Properties. Source: http://www.fashiontimes.it/2010/11/the-milano-residences-di-manila-by-versace-home-e-century-properties/ Fashiontime.it magazine di moda - milano jacknjill November 7th, 2010, 06:25 AM Versace is coming to Makati LIFE & STYLE By Millet M. Mananquil (The Philippine Star) Updated November 06, 2010 12:00 AM http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/861/lif17canvass.jpg Haute couture goes high rise: The Milano Residences, the first designer condo in the country, is a partnership between Century Properties and Versace Home. Located at the futuristic Century City in Kalayaan Avenue, Makati, Milano Residences will be completed by 2015. THE PHILIPPINE STAR: What inspired you to do the Milano Residences in partnership with Versace Home?[/B] ROBBIE ANTONIO: Versace serves as the pinnacle of luxury, and what better way to create a novel concept by fusing high-impact design with real estate into an utterly distinctive package. Versace has extended its brand from fashion to other lifestyle concepts and so, for their Versace Home line, it was perfectly logical to combine the sophisticated elements of an internationally-recognized designer brand with pioneering real estate. Its livable fashion in its purest sense. When and where did you meet with the Versace Home group? I was in New York City where we were developing our hyper-luxury residential project off 5th Avenue. During that time frame, we were able to meet some of the worlds best industry practitioners global developers, five-star brands, Pritzker Prize architects and international brands and designers. I met with Versaces top management in New York City a few years ago and discussed the possibility of collaborating for our subsequent projects. Earlier this year, while our team at Century Properties was conceptualizing its third building in Century City, Makati, we realized that it was the opportune time to bring in Versace Home into Southeast Asia. Tell us about your meeting with Donatella Versace. And her brother Santo? We have been working with the Versace Home team and they have been great. They have been to Manila to check the site and we met in Milan several times this year I just saw Donatella a month ago during Womens Milan Fashion Week to discuss the property with her along with other key design and marketing team members. Two weeks thereafter, I flew back and saw Santo Versace to discuss Milano Residences with him and some other key design and marketing team members. Needless to say, Donatella and Santo are brilliant individuals in their own right. So edgy, so Versace: Classic with a twist is this rendering of the Milano Residences library area where that Versace purity of design is seen on the all-white furniture pieces and that quirky touch is felt on the throw pillows and on the floor. Will we see the Versace touch from the facade up to the details in the condo unit? Indubitably, Versace Homes design philosophy is showcased in the projects interiors. The amenity spaces and common areas have been painstakingly designed by Versace Home to reflect a lifestyle and embody a standard of living unlike any other building in the country. We are also furthering the brands design ethos by providing clients with the option to have their units furnished and detailed by Versace Home. There is something edgy, foxy, sexy and fabulous yet classic in a typical Versace design. Think Versace women and images of Jennifer Lopez, Halle Berry and Liz Hurley come to mind. Will we see this edginess and sexiness in the Milano Residences? Edgy, chic, provocative. Yes, these are words that would encapsulate the Milano Residences. The Versace myth, as it has been said many times, is centered on the idea of a world of glamour and sexiness. Milano Residences stays true to this adage by positioning itself as an avant-garde development, offering a lifestyle that has never been made available in Manila. http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2785/lif17c300.jpg So edgy, so Versace: Classic with a twist is this rendering of the Milano Residences library area where that Versace purity of design is seen on the all-white furniture pieces and that quirky touch is felt on the throw pillows and on the floor. You are a fashionable dresser yourself. Has Versace always been a personal favorite of yours? Thank you for the compliment. I have always considered Versace as a good benchmark of style and glamour. I always believe that design should not only emanate from the clothes you wear but should be incorporated into various facets of your life. It should be rooted into your surroundings from the couch that you sit on, to the drapes that give a room character, to the lamp that lights your entire room and to the tiles you look at in your bathroom when you are about to start your day. How hands-on are the Versace siblings when it comes to details for the Milano Residences? Pure elegance: From the chandeliers down to the furniture, you can feel that unique Versace stamp of high fashion that is translated in the Milano Residences lobby. Donatella Versace serves as the creative director of the Versace Group and manages an excellent team of designers. The interior details were carefully scrutinized by the group to showcase the brands unique and sophisticated persona. These renderings of the Milano interiors are so modern and quite impressive. Will the furnishings be 100 percent Versace Home? The amenities of Milano such as the grand double height lobby, lounge, swimming pool, library, pool garden, gym, roof garden, and spa were designed by Versace Home. As mentioned earlier, we are also offering customizable unit interiors for those who would like to have Versace Home-designed furniture, accent pieces, and bathroom finishes. http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/5994/lif17d350.jpg Pure elegance: From the chandeliers down to the furniture, you can feel that unique Versace stamp of high fashion that is translated in the Milano Residences lobby. Did you get to visit any of the Versace-designed projects in Australia and the Middle East? How different will the Makati project be? The Versace Home team flew to Manila and throughout the whole period of our collaboration we believe they have gathered an understanding of the cultural specifics preferred by the Philippine market. We believe this exercise helped them create a modern and elegant look that is both internationally recognized and locally formidable. Many of their designs and furniture were custom-made for the Milano Residences. What is your target market? How affordable will the units be? We are introducing our pre-selling price at roughly the same price per square meter vis-ā-vis luxury properties in Makati and Fort Bonifacio, which is quite a competitive value proposition for a product that is in a league on its own. Our clientele comprise the upscale genre with discriminating preferences in lifestyle and who believe these are limited-edition real estate units whose value would increase exponentially throughout time. At Century Properties, we believe that every project should be a class all its own and should create a sense of prestige. It is by providing the local market with better choices in terms of exceptional quality, impeccable design, and pride of ownership that we elevate the standards and expectations of the people, to what our clients truly want but have never been offered. We also have some very special features in our units close to 29 percent of our units will have outdoor private wading pools. Now that you are building this Versace Home-interior designed residential condominium, whats your next dream project? The country should be catapulted into new heights architecturally and conceptually so that local consumers and foreign expatriates alike can enjoy such products and espouse avant-garde ideas. Dubai and New York went through this; Abu Dhabi is going through it right now. Why not Manila ? Source: http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=627547&publicationSubCategoryId=85 ^^^^^^ This question and answer marketing gimmick of CPI is a reminder of their promotional material at Gramercy Residences. This is all BS and balloney. :nuts: OMG, I hope would-be investors will do their homework before investing in any of CPI's projects. :bash: anone November 7th, 2010, 07:12 AM At Century Properties, we believe that every project should be a class all its own and should create a sense of prestige. It is by providing the local market with better choices in terms of exceptional quality, impeccable design, and pride of ownership that we elevate the standards and expectations of the people, to what our clients truly want but have never been offered. We also have some very special features in our units — close to 29 percent of our units will have outdoor private wading pools. alam kaya ni Sister Robbie ang pinagsasabi nya? :bash: bulag ba sya o talagang magaling lang syang magsinungaling at manloko tulad ng ama nya. kailangan ba talaga ng mamahaling furnitures sa common amenities? bakit hindi na lang local eh ang armani casa at ralph lauren home nga ay yung ibang furnitures nila ay gawa sa pinas. bakit hindi na lang nila pagandahin ang common hallway at elavator lobby. RonnieR November 10th, 2010, 09:13 AM ^^^^^^ This question and answer marketing gimmick of CPI is a reminder of their promotional material at Gramercy Residences. This is all BS and balloney. :nuts: OMG, I hope would-be investors will do their homework before investing in any of CPI's projects. :bash: alam kaya ni Sister Robbie ang pinagsasabi nya? :bash: bulag ba sya o talagang magaling lang syang magsinungaling at manloko tulad ng ama nya. kailangan ba talaga ng mamahaling furnitures sa common amenities? bakit hindi na lang local eh ang armani casa at ralph lauren home nga ay yung ibang furnitures nila ay gawa sa pinas. bakit hindi na lang nila pagandahin ang common hallway at elavator lobby. On the contrary, it is generating positive queries here in the country. They have good marketing. zandro888 November 10th, 2010, 01:38 PM This one is very aggressive, i say a full page ad sa Phil Star recently. I believe it caught some attention as you dont regularly see a coutured condo designed by world class designer like Versace watcher09 November 18th, 2010, 10:12 AM Here... Whoever is interested. An agent whom I don't know sent me this through e-mail. http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae303/watcher09/Milano_01.jpg We are offering it on a NO DOWNPAYMENT TERM, 60 MONTHS to pay @ 0% INTEREST!!! PRICE RANGE: Commercial Units (Mezzanine) 88sqm-173sqm - (PHP 11.5- 26M) 51st floor PENTHOUSE (Bi-level) 4BR Penthouse 220- 298 sqm (PHP 38-52 M) 3BR Penthouse 198sqm (PHP 34 M) 2BR Penthouse 103 sqm (PHP 18 M ) SKY TOWNHOUSE Lower townhouse 1BR suite 54 - 67sqm (PHP 6-7.5 M) 2BR townhouse 98- 103sqm (PHP 12-13 M) 3BR townhouse 131 -159sqm (PHP 16-19 M) Upper townhouse 1BR suite 54-67sqm (PHP 6- 7.5 M) Typical floor 3BR Loggia 131 sqm (PHP 15M) 2BR Suite 89-111 ( PHP 10-12 M) 2BR Loggia 101 sqm (PHP 12 M) 1BR suite 49-67sqm (PHP 5 - 7 M) Payment Options: Ref Description Reservation Fee Downpayment Monthly Amortization Balloon Payment Turnover Premium/ (Discount) 1 Spot Cash 75,000 98% in 1 month -------- -------- 2% on Dec 2015 (20.00%) 2 Equal Payment 75,000 -------- 100% equally until turnover -------- -------- (10.93%) 3 DP20 6 Months 75,000 20% in 6 month 60% equally over the construction period -------- 20% on Dec 2015 (9.71%) 4 DP10 Spot 75,000 10% in 1 month 50% equally over the construction period -------- 40% on Dec 2015 (3.30%) 5 DP10 6 Months 75,000 10% in 6 month 50% equally over the construction period -------- 40% on Dec 2015 (1.55%) 6 60-40 75,000 -------- 60% equally over the construction period -------- 40% on Dec 2015 0.00% 7 Balloon 75,000 -------- 30% equally over the construction period 30% equally in 10 months 40% on Dec 2015 0.00% -- watcher09 November 18th, 2010, 10:43 AM Milano Interiors... http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae303/watcher09/Milano_02.jpg http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae303/watcher09/Milano_03.jpg watcher09 November 18th, 2010, 10:46 AM http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae303/watcher09/Milano_04.jpg watcher09 November 18th, 2010, 10:47 AM http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae303/watcher09/Milano_05.jpg watcher09 November 18th, 2010, 10:48 AM http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae303/watcher09/Milano_06.jpg watcher09 November 18th, 2010, 10:49 AM http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae303/watcher09/Milano_07.jpg watcher09 November 18th, 2010, 10:50 AM http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae303/watcher09/Milano_08.jpg watcher09 November 18th, 2010, 10:51 AM http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae303/watcher09/Milano_09.jpg watcher09 November 18th, 2010, 11:02 AM Part of the Grand Lobby http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae303/watcher09/Milano_10.jpg anone November 21st, 2010, 08:18 AM Part of the Grand Lobby http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae303/watcher09/Milano_10.jpg ang sosyal naman kung talagang masusunod yan at may lantern at round vase pa sa table. ako nga ay hindi ko ma display yung aking collections ng versace venini vases sa bahay ko dahil nakapanghihinayang kung mabasag ng mga bata. REDD808 November 21st, 2010, 09:25 AM ang sosyal naman kung talagang masusunod yan at may lantern at round vase pa sa table. ako nga ay hindi ko ma display yung aking collections ng versace venini vases sa bahay ko dahil nakapanghihinayang kung mabasag ng mga bata. is there any possibility that in this property there will be an absolutely no children policy? as in i have heard of some properties abroad where certain ages are not allowed to avoid nuisance. just like pets for some places, are also not allowed. i wonder how the filipino culture would take that, anyway just a thought popping up after the concern on breaking vases. San-Mat November 21st, 2010, 05:00 PM http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae303/watcher09/Milano_04.jpg Out na ba and Zen/Minimalist/Conteporary designs? Nagsawa na ba? Flaminio November 21st, 2010, 06:00 PM is there any possibility that in this property there will be an absolutely no children policy? as in i have heard of some properties abroad where certain ages are not allowed to avoid nuisance. just like pets for some places, are also not allowed. i wonder how the filipino culture would take that, anyway just a thought popping up after the concern on breaking vases. So in those condominiums what happen if you buy as still single and then get married? You'll need to sell the apartment before you'll have a kid? jacknjill November 21st, 2010, 06:33 PM http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae303/watcher09/Milano_05.jpg ^^^^^^ Are these condo units being sold fully furnished like Gramercy? If YES, then I wonder if the brochure includes a disclaimer for UPGRADES.:sly: For example, does the chandelier come with the Sales Price, or is this an "UPGRADE?" If this is an upgrade, the asking sales price will go up. I am afraid this project will be severely infected by CPI's proven BAIT AND SWITCH gimmick. Would-be buyers, for your own sanity, do your homework, ask detailed questions before signing on the dotted lines. :nuts: iGood luck!!:cheers: San-Mat November 21st, 2010, 08:02 PM ^^^^^^ Are these condo units being sold fully furnished like Gramercy? If YES, then I wonder if the brochure includes a disclaimer for UPGRADES.:sly: For example, does the chandelier come with the Sales Price, or is this an "UPGRADE?" If this is an upgrade, the asking sales price will go up. I am afraid this project will be severely infected by CPI's proven BAIT AND SWITCH gimmick. Would-be buyers, for your own sanity, do your homework, ask detailed questions before signing on the dotted lines. :nuts: iGood luck!!:cheers: Century Properties partners with Versace By Zinnia B. Dela Peņa (The Philippine Star) Updated October 29, 2010 12:00 AM Comments (0) MANILA, Philippines Upscale real estate developer Century Properties Inc. will put up a P3-billion, 53-story designer residential building within Century City, an integrated community along Kalayaan Avenue in Makati City. In a statement, Century Properties said it has tapped Versace, one of the worlds leading international fashion houses, to provide exclusive design service for the public spaces of its newest residential project, The Milano Residences. Founded in Milan in 1978 by Italian clothier Gianni Versace, the company designs, markets and distributes luxury clothing, accessories, fragrances, make-up and home furnishings under the various brands of the Versace Group. A variety of other projects relating to lifestyle and design also bear the Versace signature: Luxury resorts and hotels, exclusive private residences and refined interior projects. Slated for completion by 2015, The Milano Residences will make available a total of 340 units with one to three-bedroom configurations. Prime units in various sizes and layouts include The Penthouses, The Townhouses and Italian-inspired units called The Loggias that feature breathtaking private plunge pools a first in a Makati condo. Versace Home, the authority in showing the essential art of luxury living, is now in Manila through the Milano Residences. To have a Versace Home interior designed address presents a rare opportunity, and an immense value to both end users and investors for units are very few and are considered collectible real estate, said Robbie Antonio, project head of The Milano Residences and managing director of Century Properties. The buildings architecture is expected to complement Versace Homes elegant interior design, which will be shown in the grand lobby, hallways, lounge, library, pool garden and spa. Versace Home will also create interior inspirations that residents may adopt for their own units. The Milano Residences is the latest residential project to rise in Century City, the flagship development of Century Properties. Masterplanned by the Jerde Partnership, the 3.4-hectare Century City, comprising luxury residential buildings, Grade A office buildings and a retail center, is envisioned to showcase the worlds best in one place. The 24-year-old Century Properties is known for its track record in developing luxury projects which include the award-winning Essensa East Forbes in Fort Bonifacio. Its real estate portfolio and pipeline covers 63 buildings under management and development as well as current projects with over 42 million square feet; and more than 10,000 residential, office and commercial units. source: http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=625081&publicationSubCategoryId=66 It said there "will create interior inspirations that residents may adopt for their own units". They did not say this before. Looks like Century City is improving though their past experience. To be fair some buyers don't really do their research or read the documents before buying. tintin47 November 21st, 2010, 08:15 PM It said there "will create interior inspirations that residents may adopt for their own units". They did not say this before. Looks like Century City is improving though their past experience. To be fair some buyers don't really do their research or read the documents before buying. ^^ Like this certain idiot jacknjill for this matter. :ohno: jacknjill November 22nd, 2010, 01:22 AM ^^ Like this certain idiot jacknjill for this matter. :ohno: ^^^^^^ Wow, I must have struck some nerves! :ohno: It's unfortunate that you had to use an expletive. Good day to you sir. Armie November 23rd, 2010, 09:30 AM ATTENTION EVERYONE: You are cordially invited to an "exclusive cocktail event of the MILANO Residences" on Friday, November 26, 2010 from 6:00PM to 10:00PM at the 6th flr, Low Rise Bldg. Roof Deck of Pacific Star Bldg. Makati Ave. corner Gil Puyat Ave., Makati City For registry, Pls txt your complete contact details at 09109108736. Thanks REDD808 November 23rd, 2010, 01:27 PM ATTENTION EVERYONE: You are cordially invited to an "exclusive cocktail event of the MILANO Residences" on Friday, November 26, 2010 from 6:00PM to 10:00PM at the 6th flr, Low Rise Bldg. Roof Deck of Pacific Star Bldg. Makati Ave. corner Gil Puyat Ave., Makati City For registry, Pls txt your complete contact details at 09109108736. Thanks i dont understand how an exclusive cocktail event get an attention everyone invitation and get a registration just by texting. there must be some mistake here. jacknjill November 23rd, 2010, 06:22 PM i dont understand how an exclusive cocktail event get an attention everyone invitation and get a registration just by texting. there must be some mistake here. ^^^^ Again this is just another advertising gimmick, just like in the US...."YOU HAVE JUST WON A $MILLION DOLLARS$." But then one realizes that...it was too good to be true.:lol: If I was a prospective buyer I will go and see what they are offering. Then I will use the information to make a very educated and informed decision whether to buy a CPI condo or not.:cheers: tintin47 November 24th, 2010, 03:41 AM ^^^^ Again this is just another advertising gimmick, just like in the US...."YOU HAVE JUST WON A $MILLION DOLLARS$." But then one realizes that...it was too good to be true.:lol: If I was a prospective buyer I will go and see what they are offering. Then I will use the information to make a very educated and informed decision whether to buy a CPI condo or not.:cheers: ^^ That is, IF YOU WERE, but then again, you are NOT because you can't afford it. :smug: jacknjill November 24th, 2010, 04:31 AM ^^ That is, IF YOU WERE, but then again, you are NOT because you can't afford it. :smug: ^^^^^^ Now that confirms my hunch. Either you are a member of Ambassador P20M family or an employee of CPI. LOL!!:lol: I rest my case. Have a good day sir.:cheers: mattz23 November 30th, 2010, 04:56 AM hi i just want to share this... rendering thx... http://propertysearch.com.ph/pro_images/act_9494.jpg :banana: awsome... huh!:lol: Carlosaur November 30th, 2010, 11:23 AM hi i just want to share this... rendering thx... http://propertysearch.com.ph/pro_images/act_9494.jpg :banana: awsome... huh!:lol: ok na sana kaso ang pangit ng kulay. :ohno: Kintoy January 5th, 2011, 09:40 AM NAIA 3 advert http://i877.photobucket.com/albums/ab335/kin_toy/PC231108_3.jpg REDD808 January 5th, 2011, 01:20 PM NAIA 3 advert http://i877.photobucket.com/albums/ab335/kin_toy/PC231108_3.jpg i dont think people here can afford this property, i mean this airport caters for budget airline and this is a luxury development, i dont see the connection why they placed the ad here, they should better place it it the arrival area not on the pre departure area of the other international airlines in terminal 2 Kintoy January 5th, 2011, 02:43 PM are you saying only poor people take Cebu Pac? Ulidia January 5th, 2011, 09:53 PM I flew with Cebu Pacific from this terminal in September and it was fine. I'd like to think I could afford a unit in Milano. --SuperB0y-- January 5th, 2011, 10:11 PM i always fly cebu pac and airphil express. in fact, i flew several times with tixs that were bought on sale (i love chasing budget airlines sale tickets on the net, e.g. piso sale etc). i have no prob with NAIA 3 and the budget airlines that are using it. I have units from MW, RLC and SM. If i want a unit from century, humbly, i think i can afford it. I have friends who have units from century who flies budget airlines. My point is... I think a lot of people who flies from NAIA 3 can afford this development. REDD808 January 5th, 2011, 11:15 PM good for you guys, congratulations on your new milano unit. San-Mat January 5th, 2011, 11:17 PM Maybe he is saying people that looks like "Jologs" that fly budget airlines can't afford a luxury development condo. (Joke) :lol: I think his point was their advertising money would be more efficient if they place their ad in the arrival area of the international airlines of Terminal 2. rmb January 6th, 2011, 06:59 AM Cebu pac is sometimes more expensive than PAL... So It doesn't mean 5J passengers are all poor. --SuperB0y-- January 6th, 2011, 07:41 AM my point is... that discriminatory remark is so way out of line! in the first place, Milano is not high-end ala rockwell or ayala land premiere condos or fairmont/raffles. this is a "century" development. mid-range. units here are mostly studios and 1-br. units here starts at 3M only, or 100K/sqm. the advertisers are not stupid, they know their target market. and don't congratulate me, i will never buy from century, they need to clean their act first. daming issues. daming negative feedbacks/press. what they are good at are make any projects look like a high-end project then deliver a mediocre building at best. just my 2 cents. Bricken Ridge January 6th, 2011, 09:24 AM i dont think people here can afford this property, i mean this airport caters for budget airline and this is a luxury development, i dont see the connection why they placed the ad here, they should better place it it the arrival area not on the pre departure area of the other international airlines in terminal 2 This is such a disturbing comment. We should be proud of our kababayans who we "think" can't afford and now own properties in our newly minted highrises. There is a distinction on how we perceive people based on their looks and how much they are willing to pay. I'll bet 200 % that based on developer Century's track record, they could care less about how you look but rather on how much you are willing to pay. rough January 6th, 2011, 10:02 AM ^^ Easy fellahs. I think he did not mean anything to insult cebu pacific patrons or say something discriminatory for that matter, It may have just sounded the wrong way. Anyway with sizes of more than 300 SQM each, the Milano lower-penthouses are priced at 62M and 53M respectively (2 of which that have been reserved) and the upper penthouses all being taken already, he is refering to the Milano as a luxury deveopment following the footsteps of Essensa East Forbes. :) REDD808 January 6th, 2011, 11:49 AM i dont think people here can afford this property, i mean this airport caters for budget airline and this is a luxury development, i dont see the connection why they placed the ad here, they should better place it it the arrival area not on the pre departure area of the other international airlines in terminal 2 i standby my statement, im entitled to my opinion, just as everyone else who disagrees or agrees with it. Kintoy January 6th, 2011, 03:47 PM and you're a jerk, and that's my opinion. --SuperB0y-- January 6th, 2011, 03:55 PM a jerk and an elitist. tsk tsk! just my opinion, ok? San-Mat January 6th, 2011, 04:04 PM i standby my statement, im entitled to my opinion, just as everyone else who disagrees or agrees with it. I think his point was their advertising money would be more efficient if they place their ad in the arrival area of the international airlines of Terminal 2. Easy fellahs. I think he did not mean anything to insult cebu pacific patrons or say something discriminatory for that matter, It may have just sounded the wrong way. I'm wrong and rough you are wrong too. That is what he meant. Maybe you should inform Century City that they are wasting their money advertising there because REDD808 said those people can't afford this property. May the Jologs be with you! Huskies37 January 6th, 2011, 06:27 PM Ngstart na po ba ang excavation nito? great184 January 6th, 2011, 07:37 PM If there's one thing that's true here in the Phils... Its the newly rich that look "rich". And the old, established rich can look unassumingly middle class... Putting that aside the marketing of this project clearly caters to those newly rich - yung nasisilawan sa pangalan - who are looking for a supposed status symbol. absolutblue January 6th, 2011, 10:11 PM ^^ Easy fellahs. I think he did not mean anything to insult cebu pacific patrons or say something discriminatory for that matter, It may have just sounded the wrong way. Anyway with sizes of more than 300 SQM each, the Milano lower-penthouses are priced at 62M and 53M respectively (2 of which that have been reserved) and the upper penthouses all being taken already, he is refering to the Milano as a luxury deveopment following the footsteps of Essensa East Forbes. :) Milano will be nowhere near as luxurious or exclusive as Essensa, they are in different leagues. REDD808 January 6th, 2011, 11:33 PM i dont think people here can afford this property, i mean this airport caters for budget airline and this is a luxury development, i dont see the connection why they placed the ad here, they should better place it it the arrival area not on the pre departure area of the other international airlines in terminal 2 again. SCUD. January 7th, 2011, 02:29 AM If there's one thing that's true here in the Phils... Its the newly rich that look "rich". And the old, established rich can look unassumingly middle class... Putting that aside the marketing of this project clearly caters to those newly rich - yung nasisilawan sa pangalan - who are looking for a supposed status symbol. True that. Stereotyping is a common thing in the Philippines. A blue collar worker with a $5-Starbucks coffee in one hand and an $200-Iphone4 on the other is considered "coņo", while the one with a $50,000 unit in Cityland is a "jologs" Canon_in_D January 7th, 2011, 03:48 AM True that. Stereotyping is a common thing in the Philippines. A blue collar worker with a $5-Starbucks coffee in one hand and an $200-Iphone4 on the other is considered "coņo", while the one with a $50,000 unit in Cityland is a "jologs" :sly: Please excuse my ignorance but i've heard these terms before but truly don't know exactly what it meant :ohno: .... "cono" and "jologs" could someone pls enlighten with with these terms :? thanks again :) nez January 7th, 2011, 04:08 AM i standby my statement, im entitled to my opinion, just as everyone else who disagrees or agrees with it. You are indeed entitled to your opinion. And it's my own opinion that the Century executives, who are in this business for a long time, know a lot better than you do when they placed the subject ad at NAIA3. :) SCUD. January 7th, 2011, 04:34 AM :sly: Please excuse my ignorance but i've heard these terms before but truly don't know exactly what it meant :ohno: .... "cono" and "jologs" could someone pls enlighten with with these terms :? thanks again :) Coņo = sosyal = high end Jologs = baduy = low end :) REDD808 January 7th, 2011, 05:00 AM You are indeed entitled to your opinion. And it's my own opinion that the Century executives, who are in this business for a long time, know a lot better than you do. :) thank you. your opinion is as good as mine. --SuperB0y-- January 7th, 2011, 05:02 AM what a character! that's all I can say. I'm glad i don't have to know you personally. nez January 7th, 2011, 06:17 AM Coņo = sosyal = high end Jologs = baduy = low end :) You can say then that I'm a proud 'Jologs' by owning Cityland units.. haha! Hope, we'll not take seriously the opinions posted in this forum... great184 January 7th, 2011, 10:27 AM Sometimes I wonder how coņo evolved from a derogatory term to a connotation of "sosyal" Anyways tagging the name Versace definitely targets the "coņo" market. Kintoy January 7th, 2011, 11:32 AM coņo means vagina. Kintoy January 7th, 2011, 11:32 AM and you're a jerk, and that's my opinion. again --SuperB0y-- January 7th, 2011, 11:52 AM Sometimes I wonder how coņo evolved from a derogatory term to a connotation of "sosyal" Anyways tagging the name Versace definitely targets the "coņo" market. even though they're just using items/furniture form "Versace Homes" and this is not actually a Versace building. That's how genius century are. They are targeting sosyal or conyo wannabes. So that a conyo-feeling buyer would buy a 30 sqm 1-br unit and would feel that he's/she's above everybody else. :nuts: Kintoy January 7th, 2011, 11:57 AM ^^ or people who bought a unit in Gramercy and think they are above everyone else :D REDD808 January 7th, 2011, 01:20 PM literally speaking yes, but it depends what floor you got. somebody else's unit can be higher and above yours. you can get used to the idea though. it takes time to accept it sometimes. or you can keep dreaming. REDD808 January 7th, 2011, 01:23 PM what a character! that's all I can say. I'm glad i don't have to know you personally. thank you. the feeling is mutual. San-Mat January 7th, 2011, 02:06 PM Sometimes I wonder how coņo evolved from a derogatory term to a connotation of "sosyal" Anyways tagging the name Versace definitely targets the "coņo" market. coņo means vagina. From what I've heard. It started when rich kids (who speak Spanish) keeps using swear or bad words like "coņo" (i.e vigina). Eventually people tagged them as Coņo kids because that's the word they always say. And I'm guessing since they are rich kids the word evolved to becoming Rich Kids. Kintoy January 7th, 2011, 02:16 PM i first heard it in UP. we use it to describe the students who hang out in AS 101 and AS Walk. San-Mat January 7th, 2011, 02:21 PM literally speaking yes, but it depends what floor you got. somebody else's unit can be higher and above yours. you can get used to the idea though. it takes time to accept it sometimes. or you can keep dreaming. even though they're just using items/furniture form "Versace Homes" and this is not actually a Versace building. That's how genius century are. They are targeting sosyal or conyo wannabes. So that a conyo-feeling buyer would buy a 30 sqm 1-br unit and would feel that he's/she's above everybody else. :nuts: They may purchase a unit in Gramercy or Milano but if they can't interior decorate their unit to match the quality of the common areas of the condo building then than "Sosyal" or "Coņo" effect would not come true. That is true "Versace Homes" is just decorating the common areas. Very smart marketing plan by Century City. I also look at it like going to a Ricky Reyes Salon - Ricky Reyes doesn't cut your hair its someone else trained by someone who may have trained under Ricky Reyes. But you can still say you got your hair cut at Ricky Reyes Salon. Baby_face January 7th, 2011, 02:56 PM A real Versace development would probably not be in this current location. Tokyo, Hong Kong, Shanghai or Singapore would more likely be the place. Even if it's in Makati, it will probably be in more prime location like Ayala Center with higher price perhaps near 200k per sq m. SCUD. January 7th, 2011, 05:01 PM Coņos think they have a Versace building on this one which not many people can afford. A real Versace building is Palazzo Versace and not any other buildings decorated by Versace Homes. Baby_face January 7th, 2011, 06:01 PM IMO, by trying to pass off as the real Versace building this condo is overpriced, just like most other Century developments. Forget about MoMa; it's just a marketing gimmick to rip off undiscerning investors. There is still a lot of land banks in this area;which is outside the Makati CBD, that can be built. Location-wise it doesn't justify this kind of pricing in the current market. SCUD. January 7th, 2011, 06:37 PM Actually, the location might have something to do with it why they try to pass this off as Versace building. CPI is trying hard to be a copycat of SUNLAND GROUP, the Australian developer who built thr Palazzo Versace in Queensland and the Q1 (Queensland Number 1), Australia's tallest and the world's tallest residential building. Sunland also built the Palazzo Versace Dubai and its adjacent residential building D1 (Dubai Number One), also by Sunland and Q1's sister building. --SuperB0y-- January 7th, 2011, 07:08 PM IMO, by trying to pass off as the real Versace building this condo is overpriced, just like most other Century developments. Forget about MoMa; it's just a marketing gimmick to rip off undiscerning investors. There is still a lot of land banks in this area;which is outside the Makati CBD, that can be built. Location-wise it doesn't justify this kind of pricing in the current market. True, location-wise is just doesn't justify it's pricing. It's at the peripheral of Makati, near a cemetery. It's not even on Makati Ave. And Makati Ave is not actually prime like Ayala Ave or Buendia or Greenbelt areas. Current Secondary Market, you can buy condos around the area at around 30-40K/sqm while condos near Greenbelt commands 80-100K/sqm. And this so called MoMa is not even on Makati Ave but at a side street. That is why century markets their projects with branding like JERDE and now, VERSACE. Bait and switch, sabi nga nila. --SuperB0y-- January 7th, 2011, 07:09 PM ^^ or people who bought a unit in Gramercy and think they are above everyone else :D let me complete that, 30sqm 1br unit in Gramercy (or baka 25sqm nga lang eh) :nuts: San-Mat January 7th, 2011, 09:04 PM True, location-wise is just doesn't justify it's pricing. It's at the peripheral of Makati, near a cemetery. It's not even on Makati Ave. And Makati Ave is not actually prime like Ayala Ave or Buendia or Greenbelt areas. Current Secondary Market, you can buy condos around the area at around 30-40K/sqm while condos near Greenbelt commands 80-100K/sqm. And this so called MoMa is not even on Makati Ave but at a side street. That is why century markets their projects with branding like JERDE and now, VERSACE. Bait and switch, sabi nga nila. Where do find decent condos for 30k-40k/sqm? That is hard to find even in Manila, QC, Ortigas. fdm9897 January 8th, 2011, 05:57 AM hintayin natin matapos ang mga condo projects sa century city at saka ninyo sabihin "bakit sobra kamahal ang mga units dito gaya sa ayala at greenbelt". maczilla January 8th, 2011, 06:35 AM Where do find decent condos for 30k-40k/sqm? That is hard to find even in Manila, QC, Ortigas. There's alot around makati that sells at 40k/sqm. Usually the older condos in salcedo or legaspi still sells at 40 to 50k/sqm. Kaso since these are resales, you pay in cash or have the bank finance it for you outright. These older condos have also bigger cuts. usually 2 bedroom units. --SuperB0y-- January 8th, 2011, 07:38 AM ^^ citidel inn have 50 sqm 1br units, and usually it sells at under 50K/sqm. a lot of condos around the area sells for that price range. Baby_face January 8th, 2011, 08:03 AM As land price continues to rise, some of these old condo buildings will be redeveloped as there are virtually no land banks left in the CBD, which will justify another round of price increases in the CBD. It's about location. Prime land is always in short supply. :cheers: great184 January 8th, 2011, 08:11 AM Actually, the location might have something to do with it why they try to pass this off as Versace building. CPI is trying hard to be a copycat of SUNLAND GROUP,.... And hence our reputation as copycats are further solidified... tsk tsk. Buti pa ang ibang developers less shallow and pretentious if not completely original with their marketing strategies.. And other developers use heritage and history to name their condos - neighboring ROCKWELL (the name palang) being a great example, using the "Powerplant" in their mall to describe the former building.. Rizal, Manansala, Edades etc. --SuperB0y-- January 8th, 2011, 08:16 AM As land price continues to rise, some of these old condo buildings will be redeveloped as there are virtually no land banks left in the CBD, which will justify another round of price increases in the CBD. It's about location. Prime land is always in short supply. :cheers: BUT Century City is not within Makati CBD, it's outside, in some side street of Makati Ave. Hence they coined Modern Makati, which is just a marketing ploy. Baby_face January 8th, 2011, 08:23 AM You are absolutely right SuperBoy! A reasonable price here should be in the region 90- 100k /sq m at this time. Anything above that it's a ripped off. :bash: San-Mat January 8th, 2011, 02:11 PM ^^ citidel inn have 50 sqm 1br units, and usually it sells at under 50K/sqm. a lot of condos around the area sells for that price range. There's alot around makati that sells at 40k/sqm. Usually the older condos in salcedo or legaspi still sells at 40 to 50k/sqm. Kaso since these are resales, you pay in cash or have the bank finance it for you outright. These older condos have also bigger cuts. usually 2 bedroom units. salamat mga bros. makahanap nga ng mga ganitong listings. Money Mayweather January 8th, 2011, 03:25 PM again. i standby my statement, im entitled to my opinion, just as everyone else who disagrees or agrees with it. Baho ng opinyon mo. Nakakasuka :lol: --SuperB0y-- January 8th, 2011, 04:34 PM ^^ couldn't agree more! jacknjill January 8th, 2011, 05:59 PM Baho ng opinyon mo. Nakakasuka :lol: Originally Posted by REDD808 i standby my statement, im entitled to my opinion, just as everyone else who disagrees or agrees with it. ^^^^^^ I agree with REDD808. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. In my case I have agreed to disagree with some forumers and I believe that is all right. BUT, let's be civil about it, no name calling please.:cheers: REDD808 January 9th, 2011, 12:16 AM reality hurts, but its the truth. nothing is greater than the truth. thats why it is difficult to accept. some people try to forget reality by living a cyber life and make it happen the way they want, their own fantastic way. and hurts a lot when real people share a glimpse of truth and reality, it bursts their bubbles of fantasies. but at the end of the day, they are just what they really are. nobody knows who they are and what they really are. no one cares by the way. every post on this thread is only as good as it gets. my thoughts....bato bato sa langit ang tamaan huwag magagalit. San-Mat January 9th, 2011, 12:55 AM reality hurts, but its the truth. nothing is greater than the truth. thats why it is difficult to accept. Why would it hurt that Cebu Pacific passengers can't afford a luxury condo like Milano? Does it mean that your opinion is the truth? :lol: SCUD. January 9th, 2011, 01:13 AM i dont think people here can afford this property, i mean this airport caters for budget airline and this is a luxury development, i dont see the connection why they placed the ad here, they should better place it it the arrival area not on the pre departure area of the other international airlines in terminal 2 This is not the truth, this is ignorance. derf January 9th, 2011, 02:01 AM I know of a lot of rich people who do take Cebu Pacific and is always on the lookout for their promo. While it's true that some rich people are very much concerned with their status and therefore do not want to be seen in a so-called "budget" terminal, that doesnt mean that they will buy a unit from Century either. These status-conscious people in fact, will never want to be seen in a Century property. They will rather have their mansions in an upscale subdivisions or condos by Ayala Premiere or in any highend development in a trendy place like the Fort, Ayala, Rockwell, Ortigas. long beach malambing January 9th, 2011, 02:42 AM Red Dog - You have made recent comments that many people, including myself, find offensive. You were given a pass by two other forumers that your comments were taken out of context, but you had to reiterate your ugly comments. Both of these people now condemn your original comments. You are making judgments on people in a picture that could easily be someone's family, friends, or even themselves. IMO you are quickly losing all the credibility you have built with your many positive additions to the Gramercy thread. At the very least....give it a rest. Canon_in_D January 9th, 2011, 03:26 AM ^^ The moral of the story is "Don't use WORDS Carelessly , once it's said It CANNOT be RETRIEVED" This goes on both parties.... Feelings were hurt .... EGO was affected .... When EGO is hurt ... Defense Mechanism .... goes out to play it's role ..... NO One would back down .... but it gotta STOP .... Let's all be civil here ... let's stop bickering and squabbles. :angel1: ^^ HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL ^^:hug: --SuperB0y-- January 9th, 2011, 09:57 AM I know of a lot of rich people who do take Cebu Pacific and is always on the lookout for their promo. While it's true that some rich people are very much concerned with their status and therefore do not want to be seen in a so-called "budget" terminal, that doesnt mean that they will buy a unit from Century either. These status-conscious people in fact, will never want to be seen in a Century property. They will rather have their mansions in an upscale subdivisions or condos by Ayala Premiere or in any highend development in a trendy place like the Fort, Ayala, Rockwell, Ortigas. very well said and so very true. even Richard Gutierrez (and his family) flies CebuPac. they can afford a house in Forbes Park, so they can be considered rich even though new rich. i don't think they will ever buy a century condo. that statement is just so ignorant (as one forumer said) and so condescending. San-Mat January 9th, 2011, 02:21 PM Would have been better stated if he said majority or most of the Cebu pacific passengers... Flaminio January 11th, 2011, 03:24 AM A lot of upper middle class people flies Cebu Pacific to go to the province, moreover OFWs flies Cebu Pacific.. They are both in the target market of CPI... Also, some posh travel destinations like Boracay are only served by local airline companies like Cebu Pacific. So even if you are rich, you need to use them. I personally met Angel Locsin and Marvin Agustin 3 years ago in Boracay terminal, flying with Asian Spirit. Aside from private jet or chops (which even rich people do not use on a daily basis...) what else could you fly with? I think they can afford (if ever interested in) a unit in Milano... San-Mat January 11th, 2011, 03:34 AM But we are all wrong because REDD808's opinion is the truth. :lol: wino January 11th, 2011, 05:20 AM ^^ false prophet?? :D JudeD January 11th, 2011, 06:08 AM Reiterating what everybody else has said about well-to-do people flying Cebu Pac. I know some people, real jetsetters and frequent flyers who could probably charter private planes or helicopters, who have flown Cebu Pac. But sometimes, their reasons for flying certain airlines are not tied into value or prestige or brand loyalty at all. It's all about their schedule. If Cebu Pac can get them to their destination at the most ideal time for them, then they don't care what "snobs" think. Basically, ginagawa lang talaga nilang taxi yung eroplano. Kintoy January 11th, 2011, 12:45 PM its funny to see an OFW like Red who thinks he's a bigshot all of a sudden --SuperB0y-- January 11th, 2011, 04:52 PM its funny to see an OFW like Red who thinks he's a bigshot all of a sudden bull's eye! i was thinking the same thing, just didn't want to write it down. phygmalion January 11th, 2011, 05:48 PM i dont think people here can afford this property, i mean this airport caters for budget airline and this is a luxury development, When did gypsum walls became luxurious? absolutblue January 11th, 2011, 06:56 PM When did gypsum walls became luxurious? :lol: kalabaw January 11th, 2011, 10:23 PM When did gypsum walls became luxurious? lol! Kintoy January 12th, 2011, 08:36 AM and he talks about his unit on the Gramercy thread every single fricking day.... richard24 January 12th, 2011, 10:08 AM When did gypsum walls became luxurious? Winner! :lol: --SuperB0y-- January 13th, 2011, 12:30 AM ^^ super winner! San-Mat January 13th, 2011, 01:08 AM and he talks about his unit on the Gramercy thread every single fricking day.... You mean the 2/3 Gramercy (phase 2 in waiting) Residences (Joke Only) uzzybabe January 13th, 2011, 02:42 AM sometimes...your arguments here are so petty...an ample waste of time...can you guys move on to a more sensible topic besides discriminating Cebu Pacific Passengers Huskies37 January 25th, 2011, 02:12 AM I'm waiting for the latest Picture/update of this one of the Philippines Mega expensive project uzzybabe January 25th, 2011, 05:30 AM We will have a pre-launching on Jan 27 2011 for cocktails and a first view of the Showroom of Milano Residences by Versace, before the final Launching on Jan 29 with Donatella Versace and some Hollywood Celebrities. Please RSVP with me at 09175368638 Richard. We will have some food and drinks at the Tea Republic Ground Floor Pacific Star Building. http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb106/smokingunmaila/jan27.jpg Baby_face January 25th, 2011, 06:46 AM I bet Donatella will not show up. It's just another marketing gimmick, as usual. :lol: magmario January 25th, 2011, 06:54 AM ^^ friend works with an events company and she told me that Donatella will indeed be there. They are making a special 4 feet stage just for her. uzzybabe January 25th, 2011, 07:01 AM I bet Donatella will not show up. It's just another marketing gimmick, as usual. :lol: That's your call...next post of mine is a picture of her and me, together with my VIP guests redriverads January 25th, 2011, 07:03 AM Donatella Versace and some Hollywood Celebrities.... We will have some food and drinks at the Tea Republic Ground Floor Pacific Star Building. Baka si Donatello ng Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.. diba pinoy yung hollywood stunt double nun? yung computer retailer guy who likes adobo (circa buy and sell ads)? Sa Tea Republic sa Pacific Star ang cocktail and drinks? ... layo sa site ah... layo nga sa sementeryo :D Baby_face January 25th, 2011, 08:15 AM There is not even a single Versace boutique in the entire country.She probably will have time for Shanghai or Hong Kong, where they have almost 70 boutiques in greater China. Phil is not one of the fastest growth market in luxury goods. There will probably be a last minute "excuse" for her not showing up.:) manila_eye January 25th, 2011, 10:07 AM ^^ we have/had versace boutique circa 90's. not sure kung meron pa rin ngayon. |