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Ingenioren August 18th, 2010, 02:26 PM Vålerenga park of culture and sports
In the Vålerenga park of culture and sports, there is a complex with 80 000 squaremeters of offices proposed, split into 4 towers at 66 meters
height, it's designed by architects Link Signatur together with a the new football and skating stadium and lowrise hotel. The highrises are
located between 60 meter high Helsfyr panorama and 54 meters high Helsfyr atrium.
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/060810/hovin1.jpg
Illustration by MIR (http://mir.no/)
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/060810/hovin2.jpg
Illustration by MIR (http://mir.no/)
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/060810/hovin3.jpg
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/060810/hovin4.jpg
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/060810/hovin5.jpg
Earlier design looked like this:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Architecture/VlerengaKulturogIdrettspark1hoyhus.jpg
Proposal:
http://web102881.pbe.oslo.kommune.no/saksinnsyn/showfile.asp?fileid=2746015
Casefile:
http://web102881.pbe.oslo.kommune.no/saksinnsyn/casedet.asp?mode=all&caseno=200802334
Updated by Þróndeimr
City of Rain August 18th, 2010, 04:39 PM it looks absolutely fantastic. i wish we could get projects of such sizes as well.. maybe in the future :)
i love the area outside the stadium.
marshol August 18th, 2010, 05:13 PM Nice project and a great add to the Helsfyr skyline. The render shows 18 floors though, but you might know it wil be 16?
IceCheese August 18th, 2010, 07:50 PM The massivity of that highrise is just unseen in this part of the world:eek: People thought the 'atrium was large... Imagine travelling on Strømsveien and see this building!
The best improvement now has to be the lowrise and the new solution to Inspurten. Makes a great entrance to the arena-area, and create an urban space in front of the stadium. Hope they come up with something great for the actual plaza there, though. They also need to work a bit more on the empty green corners towards both to the west and north.
Ingenioren August 18th, 2010, 09:23 PM Nice project and a great add to the Helsfyr skyline. The render shows 18 floors though, but you might know it wil be 16?
18 floors would make more sense considering Helsfyr Panorama has 17, and it is 6 meters lower.... It was what was written in the regulationplanproposal, it said "Ca. 16 etasjer"... I guess they want to have high floors... It kind of made me think about the quadruplets project in Singapore, altough that one is over 200 meters tall... :lol:
muster August 18th, 2010, 11:45 PM Nice progress. I think I have to stop checking the VIF stadion website for news. It's like flogging a dead horse :nuts:
Ingenioren March 28th, 2011, 11:32 AM The plans are now on hearing: Pbe recommends to lower the max-height to 54 meters and have the volume stepping down towards the stadium aswell as removing the residential building in their alternative 2:
http://web102881.pbe.oslo.kommune.no/saksinnsyn/showfile.asp?fileid=2909137
Ingenioren May 4th, 2011, 03:02 PM Pbe model
http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l608/ingenioren4/DSC_03622.jpg
http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l608/ingenioren4/DSC_03602.jpg
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http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l608/ingenioren4/DSC_0361.jpg
Olabil May 4th, 2011, 03:53 PM Looks nice! Would be great if they later put some more highrises along this allè.
marshol May 5th, 2011, 02:34 AM The Helsfyr skyline might be more impressive than the downtown one.
mjoks007 May 12th, 2011, 02:27 PM Ny skole i Vålerenga kultur og idrettspark (http://www.ostkantavisa.no/nyheter/ny-skole-i-valerenga-kultur-og-idrettspark-1.6226138)
http://www.ostkantavisa.no/polopoly_fs/valle-videregaende-skole-valerenga-stadion-kultur-og-idrettspark-1.6226140!/image/3221430224.jpg_gen/derivatives/derivative_article_904/3221430224.jpg
IceCheese August 6th, 2011, 09:16 PM Asplan Viak sums up comments from the hearing, and reveals details from a coming revision in the responses: http://web102881.pbe.oslo.kommune.no/saksinnsyn/showfile.asp?fileid=3212406
Most notable differnces:
There will be no residential buildings in the area
B2, the old apartment-block, will get less shopping, and otherwise get height adjustments to make it more in terms with neighboring buildings.
B6 (the U-shaped highrise) will get a smaller footprint to make room for more green-space. As a respons to this it'll get taller.
An iceskating ringe may get about 12.000 seats for spectators.
A new plan will probably be sent in during the next few months...
Galro August 6th, 2011, 09:53 PM Not a fan of the highrise.
Nale August 10th, 2011, 11:01 AM Not a fan of the highrise.
I love the high rise. You will save green spaces and use the area more efficiently.
It will also look very nice when driving on the highway past Valle hovin. This is my personal impression.
If they agree on the changes above, does anybody know when the building actually will start?
Vålerenga really need their own "storstue", its the biggest club in Norway.
muster August 18th, 2011, 12:22 AM An iceskating ringe may get about 12.000 seats for spectators.
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Just what I was hoping for. When Oslo gets a new National Stadium, we only need a couple of Icehockey arenas, and all we need for Winter Olympics is ready. The odds for olympics in Oslo in 2022 or 2026 is probably not very high.
Edit: I forgot Bobsleigh tracks..
mjoks007 September 5th, 2011, 12:53 PM HENT i forhandlinger om VIF-stadion (http://www.bygg.no/2011/09/76876.0)
-HENT har en løsning som er arealbesparende og som reduserer tilskuerantallet, sier prosjektleder Arild Rygg i Stor-Oslo Prosjekt. Han opplyser at de vil bruke tiden fram til nyttår med å detaljprosjektere sammen med entreprenøren og signere kontrakt ved årsskiftet. En reguleringsplan vil også bli behandlet av Bystyret i løpet av høsten.
Antatt byggestart er april 2012.
What does that mean? Downscaling the stadium, or make some of the stands temporary/movable, depending on usage?
IceCheese October 9th, 2011, 07:52 PM So, a new planforslag was sent in late September, and the plan is practicly at approval-level (even though Statens vegvesen seems to disagree). Hopefully it will be approved soon:)
Highrises are now 4 buildings of 7 - 16 floors (only one is that tall, though), and has lost it's U-shape. We'll see how the final design end up on that one.
There's also a new solution on the lowrise (again).
Illustrations weren't public online, so someone have to go to Vahls gate to get the freshest renders. Eitherway, I'll post the crappy models instead:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Valle.jpg
And map:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Vallekart.jpg
Link to planforslag: http://web102881.pbe.oslo.kommune.no/saksinnsyn/showfile.asp?fileid=3293228
Link to the city council's "get this F going, already" letter to PBE: http://web102881.pbe.oslo.kommune.no/saksinnsyn/showfile.asp?fileid=3296940
Galro October 9th, 2011, 08:02 PM Like it better now.
Olabil October 9th, 2011, 08:27 PM This project is actually quite decent i think. Although I think the area could handle 20-25 floors. There`s still a lot of space around there that is yet to be developed, so we might get a bit higher buildings in the future.
Galro October 9th, 2011, 08:29 PM ^^ I would personally rather see urban blocks developed around here than a bunch of highrises.
muster October 9th, 2011, 09:17 PM The worst part is the new small stadium with only 18 000 capacity (http://www.dinlokalavis.no/artikkel.php?aid=16592&ssoAction=getAuthId):ohno:
mjoks007 October 9th, 2011, 09:34 PM ^^If I interpret that article right, the writer think that the plan, until recently, was to build 35.000 seats, thats not right. Its been decided for a couple of years that the capacity was supposed to be 22.000, but is now lowered to 18.000.
Olabil October 9th, 2011, 10:12 PM ^^ I would personally rather see urban blocks developed around here than a bunch of highrises.
I think this area is perfect for highrises, as it borders three major roads; E6, Ring 3 and Østensjøveien. At least along these roads, city blocks would not create more "street-life". When looking at google earth, I also think the land where Helsfyr station is located would fit for a highrise or two, with the bus station partly covered by the buildings.
When that is said, I generally support your vision of urban blocks further from downtown, but not along the big roads.
IceCheese October 10th, 2011, 12:03 AM The worst part is the new small stadium with only 18 000 capacity (http://www.dinlokalavis.no/artikkel.php?aid=16592&ssoAction=getAuthId):ohno:
Let us all remember that Per Eriksen is not actually a journalist, and that "dinlokalavis.no" is a pure private initiative that gives you the possibility to make "your own news".
(Per Eriksen is the same guy behind ensjo.origo.no, the website that made headlines with exclamation marks after them, the new all-caps)
muster October 10th, 2011, 12:30 AM Let us all remember that Per Eriksen is not actually a journalist, and that "dinlokalavis.no" is a pure private initiative that gives you the possibility to make "your own news".
(Per Eriksen is the same guy behind ensjo.origo.no, the website that made headlines with exclamation marks after them, the new all-caps)
I'm not sure where you're going with this, but the 18 000 capacity is confirmed by VIF (http://fotball.aftenposten.no/eliteserien/article211217.ece).
IceCheese October 10th, 2011, 01:05 AM ^^Yes, but I'm just saying that he's not in himself a validated source. And the 35.000 alternative is still within the current planforslag.
mcmlxv October 10th, 2011, 04:36 PM ^^Yes, but I'm just saying that he's not in himself a validated source. And the 35.000 alternative is still within the current planforslag.
A 35000-seater will never happen. With the decline of spectators in later years there's no sense in building that big, in fact it could easily turn into an economical nightmare for the club if they did. This stadium is not a part of any future bid for the Euro Championships which would demand such capacity, or at least on a temporary basis.
I think it will pretty much be like this proposal, around 20000, with the possibility to raise it to about 25000. There's simply no need for more.
Ingenioren October 10th, 2011, 06:31 PM So, a new planforslag was sent in late September
Like the new concept, even with the reduced density i think the change is for the better!
Ingenioren November 2nd, 2011, 03:59 PM Entra highrise added in the models aswell:
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss282/Ingenioren3/va0.png
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss282/Ingenioren3/va1.png
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GlennHGSD November 5th, 2011, 06:22 PM how about blocks and highrises? :o
OnTheNorthRoad November 5th, 2011, 06:58 PM Looks pretty good in my opinion. Making it a bit more exciting to drive into the city.
I'll bet VIF will have full houses every sunday, at least for the first years and thus a new financial foundation. Not that I really want anything good for them.
Galro November 5th, 2011, 07:07 PM It's actually starting to look better and better now that they are added some diversity to the height of the buildings. That's a good thing. Can we hope on some diversity in the designs too?
Ingenioren November 5th, 2011, 09:08 PM We can always hope!
Oslo2022 November 20th, 2011, 12:44 PM Ice for all - Roof over Valle
Valle Hovin oval - the first Olympics 2022 venue? Big Muster and press conference at Valle Hovin Tuesday, 29.11. at 17:00.
The first new sketches will be presented, Johann Olav Koss will hold an appeal. Skating President Vibecke Sørensen and Bandy President Ivar Nordberg will be present.
And not least - the facility will provide the Oslo region of 400,000 activity hours. years - what we call real re-use. Show your support - meet up!
Many thanks to the Multi-Consult and Link Architecture that has contributed heavily to get the sketches. They will also be presented.
We are expecting high press coverage.
Oslo2022 November 29th, 2011, 03:46 PM Valle Hovin skating Oval: Presentation of sketches for a new oval tonight 17:00 at Valle Hovin.
Johann Olav Koss will hold an appeal. Skating President Vibecke Sørensen and Bandy President Ivar Nordberg will be present.
And not least - the facility will provide the Oslo region of 400,000 activity hours. years - what we call real re-use. Show your support - meet up!
Many thanks to the Multi-Consult and Link Architecture that has contributed heavily to get the sketches. They will also be presented.
We are expecting high press coverage.
Get there:
Metro (T-bane): Line 1,2,3 or 4 to Helsfyr then walk to Valle Hovin.
Here is a map.
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p42/sssic/trafikanten_KART226521684479.jpg
http://www.aftenposten.no/migration_catalog/article5073779.ece/BINARY/w780/+SCC-AIPub-A-l%C3%B8pet-stor-aled1skoyter2604.jpg
Oslo2022 November 29th, 2011, 09:26 PM The new Valle Hovin Oval (12 000). Multiconsult and Link Architects.
I am sorry for the bad quality.
http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/3523/img0217cg.jpg
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/2354/img0213nc.jpg
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marshol November 29th, 2011, 10:27 PM Yeay! Is that 12 000 seats, or?
Let's hope the skating arena will be included in the football stadium building case. Or else it will be very much delayed or maybe not built at all.
Ingenioren November 29th, 2011, 10:44 PM It's been there from the very beginning - but it has no funding.
Oslo2022 November 30th, 2011, 04:24 PM Better Quality
The new Valle Hovin Oval (12 000). Sketches by Multiconsult and Link Architects.
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/4113/vallehovin6.png
http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/2672/vallehovin5.png
http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/3364/vallehovin3.png
starkwell November 30th, 2011, 11:56 PM would have been nice if it had been designed more complimentary to the stadium, either that or as a separate entity, looks a bit messy tacked on the side like that.
IceCheese January 17th, 2012, 04:54 PM New page and some new renders from Lund+Slaatto, which haven't been presented in this thread. Lund+Slaatto are responsible for the office highrises facing Strømsveien:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Vler1.jpg
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Vler3.jpg
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Vler2.jpg
starkwell January 17th, 2012, 06:43 PM http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Vler3.jpg
This is really nice, in fact nicer than a lot of the stuff planned for sentrum...
mjoks007 January 17th, 2012, 09:13 PM That looks seriously good!
Galro January 18th, 2012, 03:54 PM I like it too. Perhaps a little bit bland though. Hopefully this a step in a direction to make Helsfyr more Skøyen or Nydalen like with a more urban take on it. :)
IceCheese April 21st, 2012, 01:00 AM Article from NEnyheter about the reg.plan: Fraråder stadionplaner (http://www.nenyheter.no/39297)
When actual political treatment will take place, hasn't been decided yet. I guess it will be after summer.
marshol January 8th, 2013, 08:42 AM OMG!
Vålerenga har sendt inn ti planer for sin nye stadion - alle får nei (http://www.osloby.no/nyheter/Valerenga-har-sendt-inn-ti-planer-for-sin-nye-stadion---alle-far-nei-7085125.html)
IceCheese January 8th, 2013, 10:04 AM ^^Luckily this isn't up to PBE at all. I hope the case will be sendt to the politicians and finally go ahead. There's not a lack of green spaces in the Valle-area.
bookings January 8th, 2013, 02:53 PM ^^ No stadium, no coach, and probably nothing to celebrate on our 100th anniversary this year :ohno:
There's plenty of greenery in that area. We cannot have Ringebu-like density this close to the city center anyway. Build up around the stadium, and protect the dam and grass and trees east of Vallhall as a park.
marshol January 8th, 2013, 03:05 PM ^^ Rekdal (http://http://www.nrk.no/sport/fotball/rekdal-ny-trener-for-valerenga-1.10865100) just became the new coach now.
...and about the question if we need more housings. YES - we do. All over the city! And as mentioned, there's plenty of greenery, and a park around the pond should be sufficient I think.
Galro April 1st, 2013, 02:41 PM Render of potentisal housing next to the stadium:
http://media4.origo.no/-/cache/image/2366179_h158ae6e53394fef9681b_v1361101811_1024x1024.jpeg
From here: http://ensjo.origo.no/-/bulletin/show/785541_fristen-for-aa-svare-paa-ny-offentlig-hoering-om-vaalerenga
IceCheese April 1st, 2013, 05:59 PM ^^It's a green space with limited value for recreational purposes. There are enough sportsarenas and even a little forrest there. Some more apartments works nicely.
Galro May 7th, 2013, 02:19 PM Render of potentisal housing next to the stadium:
From here: http://ensjo.origo.no/-/bulletin/show/785541_fristen-for-aa-svare-paa-ny-offentlig-hoering-om-vaalerenga
Better and more renders:
http://i.imgur.com/IbGx5bC.jpg¨
http://i.imgur.com/SKvRZdJ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/bVDAiQr.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/XcNsGYt.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/644iCpy.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Dj2xJji.png
I wish the blocks were more "closed off". :(
IceCheese May 7th, 2013, 05:47 PM It's a "yes, please!" from me. So much better than what originally planned! :)
Galro May 7th, 2013, 06:13 PM I agree that it is better, but I think there is still room for imrpovement.
OnTheNorthRoad May 7th, 2013, 10:27 PM I hope we'll get to see both the apartments and the delicious Lund-Slaatto office buildings go up within the next five years. That would really benefit Helsfyr.
The stadium as well naturally, but as I really dislike Vålerenga, I wish we had a different team from Oslo that could get that kind of momentum. (not Lyn either, don't identify with either "east" or "west").
Vålerenga will never have a broad appeal to Oslo people unless they drastically change their image, and they wouldn't want that.
It would be awesome if Skeid or Frigg could grow the next couple of years..
Galro May 7th, 2013, 11:05 PM I hope we'll get to see both the apartments and the delicious Lund-Slaatto office buildings go up within the next five years. That would really benefit Helsfyr.
The apartment buildings are also drawn by Lund + Slaatto for the record.
shrooms May 9th, 2013, 11:34 AM The stadium as well naturally, but as I really dislike Vålerenga, I wish we had a different team from Oslo that could get that kind of momentum. (not Lyn either, don't identify with either "east" or "west").
Vålerenga will never have a broad appeal to Oslo people unless they drastically change their image, and they wouldn't want that.
It would be awesome if Skeid or Frigg could grow the next couple of years..
So, new on the forum. Have been here for years reading, not had the time to register myself :-)
Well, whats so negative with Vålerengas image? We`re not a typically workingclass club anymore and over the years they have tried to be "Pride of Oslo" with little success though. But I think Oslo need a second topclub to compete against eachother. That would be Lyn. Not a good idea to build up passion for a new club with no or little support amoung the innhabitans.
About the stadiumplan however, chairman Åge Petter Christiansen says that it hopefully will be complete in 2016. Hope they dont build it with to many seats. 15.000 will be a good idea.
Galro May 9th, 2013, 12:46 PM ^^ Welcome to the forum. Do you live in the city? :)
shrooms May 10th, 2013, 12:22 AM ^^ Welcome to the forum. Do you live in the city? :)
Not anymore, but still working here. Wanted a house&garden without drowning in debt, so live in Røyken just outside this exciting fast growing capital :)
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