Hello.

I'm a guy living in iran,Tabriz.I have noticed something about azeri language in azerbaijan and i wanted to see your guys's opinion too.when i watch azerbaijan's old movies,the way they speak is veryvery close to us,even the slangs used there are like our daily chat in tabriz.But recently when i listen to azeri speaking in azerbaijan i think its abit changed and looks abit like turkish spoken in turkey.i feel this more everyday.what is your point of view? ;)

this absolutely ridiculous comparing slangs in Azerbaijan is same as in Turkey. Azerbaijani language evolved in it's way with Turkish influence but also we have a lot of borrowed words from Russia so it is very strange topic compared to Iranian Azeri language which is influenced by farsi.

u didnt get me.read again.i said the slangs were very similair with our azeri(tabriz and azerbaijan) and our language isnt influenced that much with farsi,atleast not in tabriz.

P.S. i asked for point of views.not attacking(calling my topic ridiculous and strange)

In my point of view Azerbaijani language is not spoilt unless people use Russian and some other foreign words that are not "officially" in our language. Azerbaijani language in Iran does not have much influence from Farsi but the way (intonation) they speak has this influence. In general both slangs of Azerbaijani (in Azerbaijan and Iran) sounds very similar to each other and not hard to understand even for a person that has never heard either of them before

yes,when i watch azerbaijani channels i understand 100%.accents in iran azerbaijan r diffrent.for eg a city like zanjan its like speaking azeri with a farsi accent.in tabriz the accent is diffrent,isnt similair to farsi,its unique.cant be explained via here :p
my question on this topic was,do u azerbaijani ppl believe that the language spoken there is getting influenced by istanbul turk?i think the answer was no according to the posts ;)

my question on this topic was,do u azerbaijani ppl believe that the language spoken there is getting influenced by istanbul turk?i think the answer was no according to the posts ;)
Definitely not! Azerbaijani is not influenced by the Istanbul accent of Turkish language

good to know ^^^^

I think the dialects and slangs can be different if isolated for a long time by artificial or natural borders.

I have learnt Turkish in 3 months it was easy as I know Kazakh well. I can easily understand written Azeri almost 90%, but when I watch Azeri TV I cannot understand 80% of what they are speaking there. So I think that only written language is more or less same to Turkish but not the pronunciation. It's completely unique.

Azerbaijani language

Azerbaijani or Azeri [9] or Torki[10][11] (Azərbaycanca, Azərbaycan dili) is a dialect belonging to the Turkic language family, spoken in southwestern Asia, primarily in Azerbaijan and northwestern Iran. Azerbaijani is member of the Oghuz branch of the Turkic languages and is closely related to Turkish, Qashqai and Turkmen.

Azerbaijani
Azərbaycan dili (Latin script)
آذربایجان دیلی (Perso-Arabic script)
Pronunciation [azærbajdʒan dili]
Spoken in Azerbaijan
Iran
Georgia
Armenia
Uzbekistan
Syria
Iraq[1]
Turkey
Turkmenistan
Total speakers 20–30 million[2][3][4][5][6][7]
Language Altaic[8] (controversial)
family Turkic
Oghuz
Azerbaijani

Writing system Latin alphabet for North Azeri in Azerbaijan, Perso-Arabic script for South Azeri in Iran.
Official status

Official language in Azerbaijan (North Azeri)
Iran (South Azeri) - constitutional status as a regional language

Iraq (South Azeri) - constitutional status as a regional language (referred to as Turkmen in the constitution)
Russia - One of the official languages of Dagestan Republic.

Regulated by No official regulation

Language codes

ISO 639-1 az
ISO 639-2 aze
ISO 639-3 aze – Macrolanguage
individual codes:
azj – North Azerbaijani
azb – South Azerbaijani
Linguasphere part of 44-AAB-a

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/41/Azerilanguage.png/315px-Azerilanguage.png

Map showing locations of Azerbaijani speakers (until 1991)
Note: This page may contain IPA phonetic symbols in Unicode.

History and evolution

Main article: Languages of Azerbaijan

The Azerbaijani dialect of today evolved from the Eastern Oghuz dialect of Western (Oghuz) Turkic[12] which spread to Southwestern Asia during medieval Turkic migrations, and was heavily influenced by Persian.[13] Arabic also influenced the language, but Arabic words were mainly transmitted through the intermediary of literary New Persian.[14]

It gradually supplanted the previous Iranian languages in northern Iran (most notably the Tat, Azari, and Middle Persian dialects), and a variety of Caucasian languages in the Caucasus particularly Udi. By the end of the 17th century, it had become the dominant language of the region, and was a spoken language in the court of the Safavid Empire. However, minorities in both Azerbaijan and Iran continue to speak the earlier Iranian languages to this day, and Middle- and New Persian loanwords are numerous in Azerbaijan language.

The historical development of Azerbaijani can be divided into two major periods: early (ca. 16th to 18th century) and modern (18th century to present). Azeri differs from its descendant in that it contained a much greater amount of Persian, and Arabic loanwords, phrases and syntactic elements. Early writings in Azeri also demonstrate linguistic interchangeability between Oghuz and Kypchak elements in many aspects (such as pronouns, case endings, participles, etc.). As Azeri gradually moved from being merely a language of epic and lyric poetry to being also a language of journalism and scientific research, its literary version has become more or less unified and simplified with the loss of many archaic Turkic elements, bulky Iranisms and Ottomanisms, and other words, expressions, and rules that failed to gain popularity among Azerbaijani-speaking masses.

Between ca. 1900 and 1930, there were several competing approaches to the unification of the national language in Azerbaijan popularized by the literati. Despite major differences, they all aimed primarily at making it easy for semiliterate masses to read and understand literature. They all criticized the overuse of Persian, Arabic, Ottoman Turkish, and European (mainly Russian) elements in both colloquial and literary language and called for a more simple and popular style.

The Russian conquest of the South Caucasus in the 19th century split the speech community across two states; the Soviet Union promoted development of the language, but set it back considerably with two successive script changes - from Perso-Arabic script to Latin and then to Cyrillic - while Iranian Azeris continued to use the Perso-Arabic script as they always had. Despite the wide use of Azerbaijani in Azerbaijan during the Soviet era, it became the official language of Azerbaijan only in 1956.[15] After independence, Azerbaijan decided to switch to the Latin script.

Literature

Main article: Azeri literature

Classical literature in Azerbaijani was formed in 14th century based on the various dialect Early Middle Ages dialects of Tabriz and Shirvan (these dialects were used by classical Azerbaijani writers Nasimi, Fuzuli, and Khatai). Modern literature in Azerbaijan is based on the Shirvani dialect mainly, while in Iran it is based on the Tabrizi one. The first newspaper in Azerbaijani, Əkinçi was published in 1875.

In mid-19th century it was taught in the schools of Baku, Ganja, Shaki, Tbilisi, and Yerevan. Since 1845, it has also been taught in the University of St. Petersburg in Russia.

Notable folklore and literary works in Azerbaijani are the Book of Dada Gorgud, Asli and Kerem, the Epic of Köroğlu, and others. Important poets and writers of Azerbaijani include

Imadaddin Nasimi
Muhammed Fuzuli
Khatai
Molla Panah Vagif
Khurshidbanu Natavan
Mirza Fatali Akhundov
Jalil Mammadguluzadeh
Mirza Alakbar Sabir
Huseyn Javid
Jafar Jabbarly
Samad Vurghun
Mikayil Mushfig
Mammed Said Ordubadi
Mohammad Hossein Shahriar

Lingua franca

Azerbaijani served as a lingua franca throughout most parts of Transcaucasia (except the Black Sea coast), in Southern Dagestan,[16][17][18] Eastern Turkey, and Iranian Azerbaijan from the 16th century to the early 20th century.[19][20]

Varieties and dialects

Azeri, formally Azerbaijani,[21][22] is divided into two varieties, North Azerbaijani[23] and South Azerbaijani,[24] and a large number of dialects. Turkic Khalaj,[25] Qashqa'i,[26] and Salchuq[27] are considered by some[21] to be separate languages in the Azerbaijani language group.


South Azeri Turks uses the Perso-Arabic script.[28](Mirza Mahammad Taghi "QUMRİ" 1819-1891[29])
The monument for the Native (Azerbaijani) language in Nakhchivan, AzerbaijanDespite their relatively large number, dialects of Azeri do not differ substantially. Speakers of various dialects normally do not have problems understanding each other. However minor problems may occur between Azeri-speakers from the Caucasus and Iran, as some of the words used by the latter that are of Persian or Arabic origin may be unknown to the former. For example, the word firqə ("political party") used by Iranian Azeris may not be understood in Azerbaijan, where the word partiya is used to describe the same object. Such phenomenon is explained by the fact that both words have been in wide use since after the split of the two speech communities in 1828.

The following list reflects only one of several perspectives on the dialectology of Azeri. Some dialects may be varieties of others.

Ardabil dialect (Ardabil and western Gilan, Iran)
Ayrum dialect (northwestern Azerbaijan; northeastern Armenia)
Baku dialect (eastern Azerbaijan)
Borchali dialect (southern Georgia; northern Armenia)
Derbent dialect (southern Russia)
Gabala (Gutgashen) dialect (northern Azerbaijan)
Ganja dialect (western Azerbaijan)
Gazakh dialect (northwestern Azerbaijan)
Guba dialect (northeastern Azerbaijan)
Hamadan dialect (Hamadan, Iran)
Karabakh dialect (central Azerbaijan)
Karadagh dialect (East Azerbaijan and West Azerbaijan, Iran)
Kars dialect (eastern Turkey and northwestern Armenia)
Lankaran dialect (southeast Azerbaijan)
Maragheh dialect (East Azerbaijan, Iran)
Mughan (Salyan) dialect (central Azerbaijan)
Nakhichevan dialect (southwestern Azerbaijan)
Ordubad dialect (southwestern Azerbaijan; southern Armenia)
Shaki (Nukha) dialect (northern Azerbaijan)
Shirvan (Shamakhy) dialect (eastern Azerbaijan)
Tabriz dialect (East Azerbaijan, Iran)
Yerevan dialect (central Armenia)
Zagatala-Gakh dialect (northern Azerbaijan)
Zanjan dialect (Zanjan, Iran)

Distribution of speakers[edit]

North Azeri variety

Main article: North Azeri language

North Azeri [30] is the official language of Azerbaijan. It is spoken in: Azerbaijan, and southern Dagestan, along the Caspian coast in the southern Caucasus Mountains. Also spoken in Armenia, Estonia, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Russia (Asia), Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan.

South Azeri variety

Main article: South Azeri language

South Azeri[31] is spoken in Iran. Iranian Azeris often call it Türki.[32] Specifically it is spoken in East Azarbaijan and West Azarbaijan, Ardabil, Zanjan, and parts of Kurdistan, . It is also spoken in some districts of Tehran city and across Tehran Province. Furthermore, some Azeri-speaking groups live in Fars Province and other parts of Iran. Most of the sources have reported the percentage of Azerbaijani-Turkic-speakers at around 19-20 percent of the Iranian population.[33] South Azeri is also spoken in parts of Azerbaijan, Iraq, Syria, and Asian Turkey.

Source: Wikipedia

Some simple words you can learn:

Hi - Salam

How are you - Necəsən? (Nedjasan)

How are you (more respectful) - Necəsiz? (Nedjasiz)

I am fine - Yaxşıyam (Yakhshiyam)

Thank you very much - Çox sağol (Chokh sagol)

See you soon - Hələlik (helelik)

Bye - Əlvida (alvida)

Çox yaxçı oldı burdada yola düşməsi bizlər gəlip burdanda örgəşə bilərüx
sağolasız və təşəkkür elirəm

Barış, birşey deyil. Həmişə yardım etməyə hazırıg ;)

I would love and appreaciate for this to continue. Would love to learn more :)

BTW, how Russian language is wide spread in Azerbaijan?

BTW, how Russian language is wide spread in Azerbaijan?

In the cities majority of the people can speak it while in the towns and villages it is completely opposite. In general it is still wide spread in cities like Baku, Ganca and Sumgayit. I guess some 30% of azerbaijanies widely use Russian in a daily life

Some simple words you can learn:

Hi - Salam - turkish (selam)

hello - Merhaba - turkish (merhaba)

How are you - Necəsən? (Nedjasan) - turkish (nasılsın?)

How are you (more respectful) - Necəsiz? (Nedjasiz) turkish (nasılsınız?)

I am fine - Yaxşıyam (Yakhshiyam) turkish (iyiyim-yahşiyim(azeri tarzı))

Thank you very much - Çox sağol (Chokh sagol) turkish (çok sağol)

See you soon - Hələlik (helelik) turkish (görüşürüz-helallik(pek kullanılmaz))

Bye - Əlvida (alvida) - turkish (elveda-güle güle-bay bay)

english - azerbaijan turkish - turkey turkish
welcome - xoş gəlmisiniz - hoşgeldiniz.
handsome - yaraşıqlı - yakışıklı
beautiful - gözəl - güzel
help - kömək - yardım
modern - müasir - çağdaş (muasır-modern)
prime minister - baş nazir - başbakan
president - prezident (respublika başçısı) - cumhurbaşkanı
deputy - millət vəkili - milletvekili



few details (az məlumat - biraz bilgi) :)

lyudi vam ne kajetsa 4to turki interesovani na nacistkif temax 4em arxitektura,goroda Azerbaidjana itd. Vesde "guzel turk4emiz,turk milleti,neden kiril alfbti etc." bojeee...xvatit!

lyudi vam ne kajetsa 4to turki interesovani na nacistkif temax 4em arxitektura,goroda Azerbaidjana itd. Vesde "guzel turk4emiz,turk milleti,neden kiril alfbti etc." bojeee...xvatit!

? please English or Azerbaijani language

lyudi vam ne kajetsa 4to turki interesovani na nacistkif temax 4em arxitektura,goroda Azerbaidjana itd. Vesde "guzel turk4emiz,turk milleti,neden kiril alfbti etc." bojeee...xvatit!

da vot zaebali menya uje xochu koi chto napisat, potom dumayu na fig mne nujen...

da uj,lu4we ignoriroat! Blin...

Biz Azerbaycanliyiq ne Rusuq ne de Turkuk nede ki, basqasi. (Duzdur Altay ailesinde Turk dili grupuna aidik) Amma bunada baxbayaraq. Ona gorede gelin calisaq dogma ana dilimiz Azerbaycan dilinde yazisaq.:)

Biz Azerbaycanliyiq ne Rusuq ne de Turkuk nede ki, basqasi. (Duzdur Altay ailesinde Turk dili grupuna aidik) Amma bunada baxbayaraq. Ona gorede gelin calisaq dogma ana dilimiz Azerbaycan dilinde yazisaq.:)
Mencede bu mövzu Azerbaycan diline aiddir burda rusça yazmağın mənası yoxdur. Eyni zamanda Türk dilinin dersi deyil, məncə sırf Azərbaycan dilinə həsr etməliyik buranı.

Biz Azerbaycanliyiq ne Rusuq ne de Turkuk nede ki, basqasi. (Duzdur Altay ailesinde Turk dili grupuna aidik) Amma bunada baxbayaraq. Ona gorede gelin calisaq dogma ana dilimiz Azerbaycan dilinde yazisaq.:)

Heç bir problem yoxdur. Mən şəxsən mənə nə dilində yazıblarsa o dildə də cavab yazmışam. Artıq şeylərə ehtiyac yoxdu.

men demek istediyimi ve rus dilinde yazmagiminda sebebi var idi,siz bawa duwmemisiz yegin...

Biz Azerbaycanliyiq ne Rusuq ne de Turkuk nede ki, basqasi. (Duzdur Altay ailesinde Turk dili grupuna aidik) Amma bunada baxbayaraq. Ona gorede gelin calisaq dogma ana dilimiz Azerbaycan dilinde yazisaq.:)

geçmişini bilmeyenin geleceği olmazmış.

Biz Azerbaycanliyiq ne Rusuq ne de Turkuk nede ki, basqasi. (Duzdur Altay ailesinde Turk dili grupuna aidik) Amma bunada baxbayaraq. Ona gorede gelin calisaq dogma ana dilimiz Azerbaycan dilinde yazisaq.:)
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I speak Azeri and English. Azeri is official language of this section and English of forum. So no Russian from me, even though I speak russian.

I speak Azeri and English. Azeri is official language of this section and English of forum. So no Russian from me, even though I speak russian.
For me Azerbaijani, Russian and English MUST be official languages of our forum, this is not a matter of personal preference but the actual needs for that. Full point

Guys, if you live abroad you cant know how much our language is influenced by Turkish. Nowadays kids watch Turkish films, listen to Turkish songs, love Turkish artists. I cant say that it is bad or even good. But it is true that especially new generations colloquial language is influenced by Turkish.

Bed xeber olaan :D ahahaha

Bed xeber olaan :D ahahaha

acı həqiqət. :)

Hello.

I'm a guy living in iran,Tabriz.I have noticed something about azeri language in azerbaijan and i wanted to see your guys's opinion too.when i watch azerbaijan's old movies,the way they speak is veryvery close to us,even the slangs used there are like our daily chat in tabriz.But recently when i listen to azeri speaking in azerbaijan i think its abit changed and looks abit like turkish spoken in turkey.i feel this more everyday.what is your point of view? ;)

Yes you are right and that is sad. Our nation was divided into two parts after turkmencay and gulustan agreements. After that the southern part's language began to develope contacting with persian language, and the northern part's language contacting with russian language. And we couldn't establish relationship between each other as we were parts of Russia and Iran. Though the north has achieved independence we can not have strong relations because of political aspects.:ohno:

Thank you very much for opening this thread.

I wonder how equal are the Azerbaijan language to Turkish. In everyday life, can a person from Turkey to spend a day on the streets, shops and cafes in Baku without translation? Can Azerbaijanis understand an academic lesson in Turkish? Can people in Azerbaijan read Turkish newspapers without translation? Can young Azerbaijani people study at Turkish universities without attending Turkish language courses?

intelligentBG, azeri and turkish are pretty similar, I would say 85% similarity. Azeri people can understand turkish people pretty easy if they don't use too poetic language :) Most of people watch turkish tv so it helps to get used to turkish idioms and pronunciation. Turkish people may have a little difficulty to understand some words in Azeri. But I would say nobody will need interpreter from one azeri to turkish or vice versa. Even if you don't understand one word you can explain it using different words. Verbs are almost 90% same, nouns may be 70% same for adjectives. Reading newspaper is a bit different because usually they use more formal language. One or two month turkish or azeri language courses would be enough to study in Turkey or in Azerbaijan.

intelligentBG, azeri and turkish are pretty similar, I would say 85% similarity. Azeri people can understand turkish people pretty easy if they don't use too poetic language :) Most of people watch turkish tv so it helps to get used to turkish idioms and pronunciation. Turkish people may have a little difficulty to understand some words in Azeri. But I would say nobody will need interpreter from one azeri to turkish or vice versa. Even if you don't understand one word you can explain it using different words. Verbs are almost 90% same, nouns may be 70% same for adjectives. Reading newspaper is a bit different because usually they use more formal language. One or two month turkish or azeri language courses would be enough to study in Turkey or in Azerbaijan.

Thank you Farid for excellent explanation, now I know more about your country. At least I can understand the nice feeling witch Azerbaijanis have about Turkey.
Let’s check if I understand correctly – It seems to me that Turkish-Azerbaijanian are like Russian-Belorussian or Russian-Ukrainian, is that comparison correct?

You're welcome!

Not sure about Russian-Belorussian, but I would say it's much closer than Russian-Ukrainian.

You're welcome!

Not sure about Russian-Belorussian, but I would say it's much closer than Russian-Ukrainian.

yep